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	<title>Comments on: Top 10 Rules for Fine Dining</title>
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		<title>By: jajajaja</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-225478</link>
		<dc:creator>jajajaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 05:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, why go through all of that for a simple meal. Eating Should be nothing but a neccesary part of life and not a way to show people what lengths you would go to as a desperate attempt to look sophisticated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, why go through all of that for a simple meal. Eating Should be nothing but a neccesary part of life and not a way to show people what lengths you would go to as a desperate attempt to look sophisticated.</p>
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		<title>By: Aus</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-222072</link>
		<dc:creator>Aus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to be a naysayer, and I understand the use of these practices as &quot;ritual&quot; or simply social status signals. I also understand the need to enjoy something otherworldly and expensive once in a while. However, I disagree with nearly the whole fiasco of fine dining. 
Some 30,000 people a day die for lack of simple sustenance. 
In my mind, it seems far more rude to drop $500 (conservative estimate) on a single meal (enough money to feed a large village,  or to sustain one impoverished child through to adulthood) than it is to place one&#039;s napkin on one&#039;s plate.

Perhaps worth mentioning here is that my job is to prepare meals for residents of a &quot;five-star&quot; retirement home, where they pay four to ten grand a month in rent alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to be a naysayer, and I understand the use of these practices as &#8220;ritual&#8221; or simply social status signals. I also understand the need to enjoy something otherworldly and expensive once in a while. However, I disagree with nearly the whole fiasco of fine dining.<br />
Some 30,000 people a day die for lack of simple sustenance.<br />
In my mind, it seems far more rude to drop $500 (conservative estimate) on a single meal (enough money to feed a large village,  or to sustain one impoverished child through to adulthood) than it is to place one&#8217;s napkin on one&#8217;s plate.</p>
<p>Perhaps worth mentioning here is that my job is to prepare meals for residents of a &#8220;five-star&#8221; retirement home, where they pay four to ten grand a month in rent alone.</p>
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		<title>By: porkido</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-221768</link>
		<dc:creator>porkido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sandy(74): I think a lot of the pomp reflects the mood a resto is trying to establish and sell...they see it as part of the experience, part of the brand...Sanjuro is quite right: the ritualistic aspects tend to make the diner feel reverent, in awe...and less shocked when they get the bill...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sandy(74): I think a lot of the pomp reflects the mood a resto is trying to establish and sell&#8230;they see it as part of the experience, part of the brand&#8230;Sanjuro is quite right: the ritualistic aspects tend to make the diner feel reverent, in awe&#8230;and less shocked when they get the bill&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: porkido</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-221765</link>
		<dc:creator>porkido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My table is mine (especially if I&#039;m dropping a fortune), and, other than highly-offensive cultural affronts (passing food chopstix-to-chopstix, eating with the left hand in the wrong country, etc.), I&#039;ll eat as I please...often with my fingers. The number of Michelin stars is irrelevant. 

I will not tell the chef how to cook, and I won&#039;t be told how to eat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My table is mine (especially if I&#8217;m dropping a fortune), and, other than highly-offensive cultural affronts (passing food chopstix-to-chopstix, eating with the left hand in the wrong country, etc.), I&#8217;ll eat as I please&#8230;often with my fingers. The number of Michelin stars is irrelevant. </p>
<p>I will not tell the chef how to cook, and I won&#8217;t be told how to eat.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjuro</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-221241</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjuro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Etiquette is like a religious ritual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Etiquette is like a religious ritual.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-220002</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel more pretentious just for reading this. Why do people really go through such ridiculous formalities to put food in their mouths?

Yet, knowing these is more than just looking fancy. For example, among the type of people that dine this way, very subtle breaches of these rules can be a way to make a point without making a fuss or a lot of noise or attracting a lot of attention - if a server is inappropriately slow due to laziness or lack of attention, breaching a minor &quot;this is rude to the server&quot; rule can be an effective way of saying that it&#039;s noticed and not appreciated, without causing a scene or having to vocalize displeasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel more pretentious just for reading this. Why do people really go through such ridiculous formalities to put food in their mouths?</p>
<p>Yet, knowing these is more than just looking fancy. For example, among the type of people that dine this way, very subtle breaches of these rules can be a way to make a point without making a fuss or a lot of noise or attracting a lot of attention &#8211; if a server is inappropriately slow due to laziness or lack of attention, breaching a minor &#8220;this is rude to the server&#8221; rule can be an effective way of saying that it&#8217;s noticed and not appreciated, without causing a scene or having to vocalize displeasure.</p>
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		<title>By: Nezzy</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-219716</link>
		<dc:creator>Nezzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been part of several boring diplomatic dinners, I must say this list is a very good example of manners. It becomes second-nature after a while, it isn&#039;t any sort of problem to learn. Quick and easy. However, I must say this: although you should never talk about politics, religion or sex, do not be afraid to spice up the conversation a little and keep everybody from snoring into their plates!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been part of several boring diplomatic dinners, I must say this list is a very good example of manners. It becomes second-nature after a while, it isn&#8217;t any sort of problem to learn. Quick and easy. However, I must say this: although you should never talk about politics, religion or sex, do not be afraid to spice up the conversation a little and keep everybody from snoring into their plates!</p>
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		<title>By: Lorcan</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-214476</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These rules should be considered de rigour- it&#039;s true you need to pay equal attention to each person to your immediate right &amp; left- even if you detest each other. 

I once ended up in dining in a private suite at the races, having to make polite conversation to a politician I detested. So in French (to be more discreet about it) at the beginning I quietly told him I would be polite so long as he did not argue my views on politics, for the sake of everyone else (who were of the opposition anyway)- otherwise I would be unable to hide my comtempt. He ignored what I considered to be a polite request, argued with me about my own father&#039;s stance on the Lisbon treaty to the disgust of everyone else- at which point I lost it and asked him whether he thought since we were discussing the subject, his decision to choose not to support protecting the average wage by voting Yes, was a direct result of his earning so much money it made no difference to him? He coughed, said nothing and ignored me for the rest of the meal.

At the end, to his irritationa and humiliation, the host raised his glass and winked at me. There&#039;s a lot to be said for breaking the rules of ettiquete- and it&#039;s never worth it. Learn them- you never know when you&#039;ll need them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These rules should be considered de rigour- it&#8217;s true you need to pay equal attention to each person to your immediate right &amp; left- even if you detest each other. </p>
<p>I once ended up in dining in a private suite at the races, having to make polite conversation to a politician I detested. So in French (to be more discreet about it) at the beginning I quietly told him I would be polite so long as he did not argue my views on politics, for the sake of everyone else (who were of the opposition anyway)- otherwise I would be unable to hide my comtempt. He ignored what I considered to be a polite request, argued with me about my own father&#8217;s stance on the Lisbon treaty to the disgust of everyone else- at which point I lost it and asked him whether he thought since we were discussing the subject, his decision to choose not to support protecting the average wage by voting Yes, was a direct result of his earning so much money it made no difference to him? He coughed, said nothing and ignored me for the rest of the meal.</p>
<p>At the end, to his irritationa and humiliation, the host raised his glass and winked at me. There&#8217;s a lot to be said for breaking the rules of ettiquete- and it&#8217;s never worth it. Learn them- you never know when you&#8217;ll need them.</p>
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		<title>By: Wizard</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-214224</link>
		<dc:creator>Wizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s sad to see that most of the comments posted here are negative, this person who wrote this it actually trying to help you guys thats all, (going to the whingers) imagine this, what if you are invited (unlikely) to a fancy restauraunt or white tie dinner (I hope most of you know what this means) and not knowing what to do when it comes to common table ediqutte,  and complaining about this is typical of the feral, bogan or commoner to perpetuate. most of us have every right to be pretentious of some of the people who wrote these comments here because it mirrors the behavior of what the people who cannot even say please or thankyou, aka the bogan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s sad to see that most of the comments posted here are negative, this person who wrote this it actually trying to help you guys thats all, (going to the whingers) imagine this, what if you are invited (unlikely) to a fancy restauraunt or white tie dinner (I hope most of you know what this means) and not knowing what to do when it comes to common table ediqutte,  and complaining about this is typical of the feral, bogan or commoner to perpetuate. most of us have every right to be pretentious of some of the people who wrote these comments here because it mirrors the behavior of what the people who cannot even say please or thankyou, aka the bogan.</p>
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		<title>By: Wizard</title>
		<link>http://listverse.com/2007/08/14/top-10-rules-for-fine-dining/#comment-214104</link>
		<dc:creator>Wizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>perfect for the common person, these instructions are essential for fancy restaraunts and going to dinner parties at places like you bosses house or with any sort of sophisticated VIP, thankyou for fortifing my understanding of table manners. as i have already been taught, I find people who play with their food, people who scull their wine (shocking), people who cut their bread and knife the butter without taking it and placing some on the plate and people who eat with their mouth open most offending and especially (which you haven&#039;t mentioned but should)not asking to pass the platter of food or jug and just reaching and grabbing it over your meal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>perfect for the common person, these instructions are essential for fancy restaraunts and going to dinner parties at places like you bosses house or with any sort of sophisticated VIP, thankyou for fortifing my understanding of table manners. as i have already been taught, I find people who play with their food, people who scull their wine (shocking), people who cut their bread and knife the butter without taking it and placing some on the plate and people who eat with their mouth open most offending and especially (which you haven&#8217;t mentioned but should)not asking to pass the platter of food or jug and just reaching and grabbing it over your meal.</p>
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