Everyone enjoys hearing about a good conspiracy theory and many people enjoy coming up with new ones. You can spend an incredible amount of time reading about theories and wondering if there is any truth to them. This list is the top 10 conspiracy theories. If you feel that I have left off your favourite, or have proof that any of these are not just theory but fact, post a comment, just remember: don’t be cruel!
1. 9/11 was Planned by the US Government [Wikpedia]
Many conspiracy theories have been presented concerning the September 11, 2001 attacks, many of them claiming that President George W. Bush and/or individuals in his administration knew about the attacks beforehand and purposefully allowed them to occur because the attacks would generate public support for militarization, expansion of the police state, and other intrusive foreign and domestic policies by which they would benefit.
Proponents point to the Project for the New American Century, a conservative think tank that argues for increased American global leadership, whose former members include ex-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Vice President Dick Cheney and several other key Bush administration figures. An 1990 report from the group stated that “some catastrophic and catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor” would be needed to budge public opinion in their favor.
2. UFO Recovered at Roswell [Wikpedia]
The Roswell UFO Incident involved the recovery of materials near Roswell, New Mexico, USA, in July 1947, which have since become the subject of intense speculation, rumor, questioning and research. There are widely divergent views on what actually happened, and passionate debate about what evidence can be believed. The United States military maintains that what was recovered was a top-secret research balloon that had crashed.
By the early 1990s, UFO researchers such as Friedman, William Moore, Karl Pflock, and the team of Kevin Randle and Don Schmitt had interviewed several hundred people [11] who had, or claimed to have had, a connection with the events at Roswell in 1947. Additionally, hundreds of documents were obtained via Freedom of Information Act requests, as were some apparently leaked by insiders, such as the disputed “Majestic 12″ documents. Their conclusions were that at least one alien craft had crashed in the Roswell vicinity, that aliens, some possibly still alive, were recovered, and that a massive cover-up of any knowledge of the incident was put in place.
3. John F. Kennedy’s Assasination [Wikpedia]
The assassination of John F. Kennedy, the thirty-fifth President of the United States, took place on Friday, November 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas, USA at 12:30 p.m. CST (18:30 UTC). Kennedy was fatally wounded by gunshots while riding with his wife Jacqueline in a presidential motorcade through Dealey Plaza. The official investigation by the Warren Commission was conducted over a ten-month period, and its report was published in September 1964. The Commission concluded that the assassination was carried out solely by Lee Harvey Oswald, an employee of the Texas School Book Depository in Dealey Plaza.
A number of conspiracy theories exist with regard to the assassination of U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Such theories began to be generated soon after his death, and continue to be proposed today. Many of these theories propose a criminal conspiracy involving parties such as the Federal Reserve, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the KGB, the Mafia, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) director J. Edgar Hoover, Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon, Fidel Castro, George H. W. Bush, Cuban exile groups opposed to the Castro government and the military and/or government interests of the United States.
4. Global Warming is a Fraud [Wikpedia]
The suggestion of a conspiracy to promote the theory of global warming was put forward in a 1990 documentary The Greenhouse Conspiracy broadcast by Channel Four in the United Kingdom on 12 August 1990, as part of the Equinox series, which asserted that scientists critical of global warming theory were denied funding.
William Gray, phD (a pioneer in the science of hurricane forecasting) has made a list of 15 reasons for the global warming hysteria. The list includes the need to come up with an enemy after the end of the Cold War, and the desire among scientists, government leaders and environmentalists to find a political cause that would enable them to ‘organize, propagandize, force conformity and exercise political influence. Big world government could best lead (and control) us to a better world!’ In this article, Gray also cites the ascendancy of Al Gore to the vice presidency as the start of his problems with federal funding. According to him, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration stopped giving him research grants, and so did NASA.
5. Princess Diana was Murdered by the Royal Family [Wikpedia]
In 1997, Princess Diana (Princess of Wales) and Dodi Fayed (son of Mohamed Fayed, owner of the Ritz Hotel and Harrods) were killed in a car accident while trying to get away from press photographers in Paris. The scandal surrounding their relationship (Dodi was Muslim whilst Diana was the mother of the future head of the Church of England) has led many people to speculate that they were actually killed in order to prevent further scandal to the throne of England.
Polls suggest that around a quarter of the UK public, and a majority of people in some Arab countries, believe that there was a plot to murder Diana, Princess of Wales. Motivations which have been advanced for such a conspiracy include suggestions that Diana intended to marry Dodi Fayed, that she intended to convert to Islam, that she was pregnant, and that she was to visit the holy land. Organizations which conspiracy theorists suggest are responsible for her death have included French Intelligence, the British Royal Family, the press, the British Intelligence services MI5 or MI6, the CIA, Mossad, the Freemasons, or the IRA.
6. Jewish World Domination [Wikpedia]
This theory, in recent history, extends mainly from the booklet The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which are widely considered to be the beginning of contemporary conspiracy theory literature. The Protocols are considered by some to be an anti-Jewish literary forgery that purports to describe a Jewish plot to achieve world domination. Numerous independent investigations have repeatedly proven it to be a plagiarism and a hoax, yet numerous independent investigations have shown it to be a factual document.
The text was popularized by those opposed to Russian revolutionary movement, and was disseminated further after the revolution of 1905, becoming known worldwide after the 1917 October Revolution. It was widely circulated in the West in 1920 and thereafter. The Great Depression and the rise of Nazism were important developments in the history of the Protocols.
7. Apollo Moon Landing Hoax [Wikpedia]
Apollo Moon Landing hoax accusations are claims that some or all elements of the Apollo Moon landings were faked by NASA and possibly members of other involved organizations. Some groups and individuals have advanced alternate historical narratives which tend, to varying degrees, to state that the Apollo Astronauts did not land on the moon, and that NASA created and continues to perpetuate this hoax.
Moon hoax proponents devote a substantial portion of their efforts to examining NASA photos. They point to various issues with photographs and films purportedly taken on the Moon. Experts in photography (even those unrelated to NASA) respond that the anomalies, while sometimes counterintuitive, are in fact precisely what one would expect from a real Moon landing, and contrary to what would occur with manipulated or studio imagery. Hoax proponents also state that whistleblowers may have deliberately manipulated the NASA photos in hope of exposing NASA.
8. Pearl Harbor Was Allowed to Happen [Wikpedia]
This theory states that President Roosevelt (FDR) provoked the attack, knew about it in advance and covered up his failure to warn the Hawaiian commanders. FDR needed the attack to sucker Hitler to declare war, since the public and Congress were overwhelmingly against entering the war in Europe. It was his backdoor to war.
Theorists believe that the US was warned by, at least, the governments of Britain, Netherlands, Australia, Peru, Korea and the Soviet Union that a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor was coming. All important Japanese codes were broken. FDR and Marshall and others knew the attack was coming, allowed it and covered up their knowledge.
9. The Third Secret of Fatima [Wikpedia]
The Three Secrets of Fatima are said to be three prophecies that were given by an apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to three young Portuguese shepherds, Lucia Santos and her cousins Jacinta and Francisco Marto. From May to October, 1917, the three children claimed to have witnessed this Marian apparition, which is today popularly described as Our Lady of Fatima. On July 13 the Virgin Mary is said to have entrusted the three secrets – in the form of prophecies – to the young visionaries. Two of the secrets were revealed in 1941 in a document written by Lucia to assist with the canonization of her cousins, while the third was to remain secret, although the bishop of Leiria commanded Lucia to put it in writing and to present it to the Pope.
A Catholic priest who has apparently seen the original text of the “third secret” of Fatima disputes the official interpretation of the secret released by the Vatican. Furthermore, he has asked key people in the Vatican about the text and has gotten no response. While the Priest’s comments are somewhat radical, they are not without merit, as he has seen the secret with his own eyes. Moreover, while the first 2 secrets are fairly obvious and clear, leading some to wonder why the third one is required to be examined by a team of experts because of its complexity.
10. The Philadelphia Experiment [Wikpedia]
The Philadelphia Experiment was an alleged naval military experiment at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, sometime around the date of October 28, 1943, in which the U.S. destroyer escort USS Eldridge was to be rendered invisible to human observers for a brief period of time. It is also referred to as Project Rainbow. The story is widely regarded as a hoax. The U.S. Navy has stated that the experiment never occurred, and furthermore, details of the story contradict stated facts about the Eldridge. It has nonetheless caused a significant ripple effect in many conspiracy theory circles, and elements of the Philadelphia Experiment are featured in many other government conspiracy theories.
According to some accounts, the experiment was conducted by a Dr. Franklin Reno (or Rinehart) as a military application of a Unified Field Theory. The theory, briefly, postulates the interrelated nature of the forces that comprise electromagnetic radiation and gravity. Through a special application of the theory, it was thought possible, with specialized equipment and sufficient energy, to bend light around an object in such a way as to render it essentially invisible to observers. The Navy considered this application of the theory to be of obvious military value (especially as the United States was engaged in World War II at the time) and both approved and sponsored the experiment. A navy destroyer escort, the USS Eldridge, was fitted with the required equipment at the naval yards in Philadelphia.
Note: There are so many conspiracy theories that this would be an unwieldy list if I included them all. Stay tuned for a second Conspiracy Theories list in the future.
Technorati Tags: conspiracy
The conspiracy is vast and touches all these minor theories… 9/11 wasn’t exactly a “US government” job, it was the world shadow government. The illuminati killed Princess di, aliens and UFOs exist, Jesuits and Zionists are illuminati. Their is so much to all this, we’ve been lied to for probably thousands of years. Ever wonder what “treasures” they are hiding in the Vatican? Anyone heard of the 13 skulls? How about indigo children?
Rise up!
Oh, God, Rowdy,
Then only Indiana Jones can save us all.
i love the page but come on global warming thatz no joke it rained in the north pole “IT *****ING RAINED IN THE NORTH POLE” datz no Conspiracy b real thatz da only one i think you shouldnt have put ppl are ganna think itz a Conspiracy when clearly itz not itz a seriouse problem and we gatta do sumthing bout it
ashe
casanova: let’s not forget that no one measures rain in the North Pole (until now) – the scientists admit that they have no idea whether it is a regular thing or not. Just because we have never seen it before, doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened before. They will monitor it much closer now.
true but b real, the ice caps are melting the balance between the fresh water and salt water is being thrown off, thatz y the wheaters so wack where getting hurricans in central america last i heard that wasnt suppost to happen cuz of da ocean currents itz all “FACT”
Mind if I join in, cas & jfr?
Sorry, but I’ll have to put on my serious NATURAL history hat here.
Point one, I’m quite surprised that anyone without a good reason not to see it (Al Gore’s ‘inconventient truth, that is) should still doubt that industrial civilisation is drastically and dangerously altering the conditions which support a more or less stable life-system on the planet.
When I say ‘a good reason to doubt it’, I mean, for example, folks who are making lots on lots of juicy bucks by *****ting up the only home we’ve all got.
Turning the blind eye. Of course, plenty of people suspect they have terminal illnesses and don’t want to know, or manage to convince themselves the doc who told them they have is simply an ignorant quack.
For sure cas is spot-on (so far as I can suss the jargon). There is just too much overwhelming evidence coming together on too many fronts, including those major examples cas cites.
Some people who think otherwise like to point out how everything either hasn’t been proved, or has happened before anyway, and so is a perfectly natural phenomenon: ice-age fluctuations, distance from the sun, El Niño, La Niña, getting out of bed on the wrong side this morning … etc., etc. Others simply live in Alaska and know their *****.
Naturally it hasn’t been proved, because it hasn’t sodding well happened before. Do we just wait until Planet Earth is totally uninhabitable and then say, “O.K. folks, now it’s properly proved. Let’s get on and do something about it”?
As for the other “excuse”, that everything is simply Mother(-*****ing) Nature up to her usual tricks, nothing more, open your eyes, disbelievers. Wettest (or driest) year since records were started. More hurrincanes in central America in one season than you can shake a stick at. Hottest summer somewhere since 1911. Last similar British floods in 1950. First time somne river froze over since 1894. Of course, taken in isolation there’s nothing particularly alarming. After all, climate records are like Olympic or Guinness records, there to be broken from time to time. But put them together, and you’ll find squashed within a few years from all over the world dozens and dozens of ‘since 1894s’ ‘since 1950s’ ‘since 1911s’ ‘since records started’, and so on.
And as I’ve already said above, that’s not to mention the sheer speed with which melting ice, rising sea-levels and global temeratures are accelerating compared with previous natural rates running back tens of thousands of years, which can be accurately measured from ice cores (and corroborated for several thousand years by tree rings, as these are sensitive to climate).
That’s all I’m going to say. I could give you heaps more detailed statistics from my own speciality, but that would only bore the arse off you more than I’m already doing.
So if you don’t want to know, or can’t be bothered to read Al Gore, or Lovelock’s Gaia series of books, then welcome to our probable future collective funeral.
Conspiracy theory? Well maybe it is. A conspiracy by Homo sapiens, which was perhaps inevitably set in motion from the moment we evolved, to bugger up our own planet. Or perhaps it was even set up when life itself started on the planet, programmed so it would eventually self-destruct. Who do we blame for that? Dubya Bush? Why not, he’s not doing anything to stop it. Will the next guy in the White House?
Yours truly, with nowehere else but the Third Rock to go.
Yeah,
Talking of the Third Rock, at least Dick & Co could ‘go home’.
i believe the majority of which is wrote in these theories.
people need to open up their minds and expand upon which they normally are afraid to.
wateva you believe as long as you are happy.
but of course.
i believe in father xmas and the tooth fairie and i am happie.
i would be even happier if fx would still fill my stocking with pressies and if I still had any spare teeth to fall out, so the tf would leave a shiny coin under my pillow.
man i am a big fan of Robert “Bobby” Kennedy and i think that his assassination should be on there. Also i hope the truth can be found about the assassination of J.F.K.–
the thing is that the truth will always find it’s way out no matter how well that you try to cover it up it will find a crack and it will just keep getting bigger.
Nice list man
I love the list, man.
Incredible.
Now all we need is Jimmy Hoffa….lol
Nice sane viewpoints,nahums 84.
Apropos, how easy it is to knock off good guys like the Kennedys and Lincoln. Yet you can kill just about everyone else around Hitler and Pinochet and still leave them standing untouched? I guess it proves the Devil may be pretty good at looking after his own by working miracles too!
I like to think and hope the truth will out too, and Watergate gives me a lot of encouragement. I suppose the counter-argument is that if it doesn’t out, then we never know. Also, the longer it stays under wraps the more difficult it often is to get out for various reasons. On the other hand there’s another true saying that the more people know a secret, the harder it becomes to keep. I take hope from that as well. Ever noticed how few people you know can keep a simple secret?
But movies, fiction and real-life would be a lot less fun without conspiracy theories … wouldn’t they?
OMG i love this comment by Spanner in the works “I guess it proves the Devil may be pretty good at looking after his own by working miracles too!”—-bro i can totally feel u
R.I.P. R.F.K. u too J.F.K.
Questions for U, jfrater.
Presumably there are active and passive visitors to the sites, and clearly the actives have thinned right out. Do you have any idea whether folks just log in still to read, and if so, how many and when? I ask as a total e-incompetent who feels like a blind guy tapping away in an empty room. IS THERE ANYBODY THERE … or am I just tapping to myself?
Further to that last, most reactions to your TENS came within a few days of posting. How do all those folks immediately know something new like this has come up? I just happened on you when surfing for info to do with something else.
I’m also idle. I had an idea the Iron Mountain conspiracy theory (to do with global warming) had been raised by someone in TOP or ANOTHER. Didn’t notice it during a quick skim through though (haven’t even read all of ANOTHER properly yet). Can you say? I ask ‘cos it cropped up recently where we live.
Finally, I guess my cheek full of tongue about the Jews making a better fist of running the world belongs over here (nº6) rather than with ANOTHER.
#133 Spanner in the Works Huh? What’s a “better fist?”
Spanner in the works: if you look at the top right hand side of this page you will see a list of recent comments and recent lists – you will find most people are posting there now – that is usually what happens. Does this answer your question?
Testing, testing, testing.
Yesterday I wrote up a whole load of bumf at one of your newer sites and the carrier didn’t post it. I had to copy the lot out by hand rather than lose it as it was written directly here and I had no means of copying electronically. I was *****ed off. Ì tried here without joy too.
So I’m sending this test card before risking wasting more time.
O.K. We’re back in business again.
Hi,
Yes, and many thanks for the above ‘instruction for the simple-minded’ about your other list sites, etc. I did warn you I was pretty e-gnorant, and a bit of a thick-e.
On the other hand I do tend to adopt EXTREMELY blinkered vision when clocked onto the network and ONLY tend to look at essential basics plus messages on the white numbered panels (in your case). At times I read from the most recent of these up and never even eventually get around to the earlier stuff! Reason: sites are just stuffed full all down the borders with time-wasting ads and bait trying to sell me things I don’t want, or distracting me to other sites I’m not interested in. Half the time they don’t even seem to be related to the actual main contents at all. So as with a lot of ads in newspapers, I simply don’t even bother to look … That’s how stuff like your trailers gets missed.
Vera Lynn, Forces Sweetheart, see my next posting for your answer.
Waiting… still waiting…still waiting….
Spanner in the Works How much longer will you make a lady wait?
Spanner in the works Sorry darlin’ but I ain’t you’re “Sweetheart” I belong to MPW.
I mean “your” possessive not contraction. My bad.
Vera, baby,
A good fist = doing something well
A better fist = doing something better
A poor fist = being cack-handed or making a cock-up.
For more explanation and details of useage and probable origin, try ‘World Wide Words: Fist’ in the Google box, or
http.//www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-fisl.htm
There, I’m not a complete electronic dummy after all.
In return, please may I have a verse of “There’ll be bluebirds over the White Cliffs of Dover tomorrow, just you wait and see”? We’ve got quite a bit of your output on CD. So glad you’re still going strong. We heard you sing live in central London by the Thames for the 50th anniversary of the end of WW2 in 1995. Great voice still.
Hey,
Vera Lynn isn’t/wasn’t my Sweetheart or anybody’s sweetheart, she was everybody in uniforms’ sweetheart. And married too.
Sorry. I got called away for evening meal. Salmon trout. Couldn’t let it get cold, even for Vera Lynn! Anita is jealous.
Are you O.K. on cack-handed?
jfr.
Somefink wierd’s ‘appened, boss.
The top RHS of my page went completely blank and all the contents shot right down the bottom after the typing space.
I like a nice, comfortable, well-ordered world
See you over at 10 Funny Fat Guys.
Spanner in the works: thanks – fixed
When the sun sinks to rest and the star of the West sheds it’s soft silvery light o’er the sea
What sweet thought arise as the twilight dies, for then I am thiking of thee
Oh then crowding fast comes the joy of the past through the dimness of days long gone by
Like the stars peeping out through the darkness about from the soft silent depths of the sky
And thus as the night grows more lovely and bright
In silence my heart is more free
The rude world to forget
Where no pleasure I met
Since the hour I parted from thee.
To Spanner
For MPW
For MPW
O, how lovely, Vera.
Thanks. Better than I could possibly have hoped for. After all, I know ‘Blue Birds’ like the back of my hand.
After such an exquisite and appreciated offering I couldn’t possibly sully the context with a sordid explanation of cack-handed either, so I truly hope that is unnecessary.
More server problems, so
testing
O.K. Back on air.
You know the area I hang out, Jamie Frater. Is this a local geographical problem of mine, or are you having general problems? Luckily I didn’t write much (over on fatties again) so copying wasn’t ‘The Scream’ like last time.
Here’s what beamed up:
Error
The requested URL CD not retrieved
While trying to retrieve the URl:
http://listverse.com/wp.comments-post-php
the following error was encountered:
.Zero Sized Reply
Squid did not receive any data from this request.
(There followed a short blue-lettered code I won’t send in case it identifies my site. If you need it, let me know, and how to send it to you)
FINALLY IN ITALICS
Generated 7UK (it looks like) 01 jul 2008 19.00.05 (and other times near that) by listverse.com (squid2.6STABLE 6)
I’m wiser now. I’ll always write up everything first on a file, as I do for e-mail, and copy onto yours. (Ah I just see I think I can do that in reverse, so all my handwriting may have been in vain!)
I recently found ALL your lists. I think it may ruin what’s left of my working life. Maybe I won’t even have enough life left for the lists. There are scads of them, so I’m also going to starve to death like the donkey with so many bales of hay, it couldn’t choose which. Anita will kill me for not getting on with ‘proper’ work. I know I belong in your (future) list of The World’s Top 10 Most Easily Distracted People for sure. My head’s whirling from that List of Lists. I just copied it onto 19 sides and will have to colour line a SMALL selection for attention.
Do you want ideas, including contents suggestions, for new lists? I think I have at least two very good general-appeal ones and a promising if rather more specialised third. If so let me know how to communicate.
Oh, and Happy List Anniversary, I see.
Yes, I can indeed copy and print back onto a personal computer file. No real problem now then. What a prat. Why didn’t I discover the technique earlier? Blinded by rage, I suppose.
very beautiful Vera Lynn, thanks
I’ve just come fresh over from athletes turned actors. I see Blogball set that up. So the idea is to do your own and send in? I’ve also found the Ways to Help Listverse title in the List of Lists, so I’ll check that out when I’ve got a bit of time before coming back to you again if more instructions are still needed then.
Waco and Ruby ridge would be great additions to this list.
I have operated at the most senior military and geo-political positions over the last 20 years and i can confirm that the above conspiracy theories are all correct and true….i was there when the USS Elderidge dissapeared before my very eyes and know that it was Prince Philip himself that spiked the drinks of the driver of Diana’s car in Paris…..
So that would make you, what? seventy years old at least… Get the ***** out of here. Proof that you didn’t even serve is in the the Spelling of USS Eldridge. DE-173 was the hull designation and if you had Actually served you would have included that.
Calling yourself a mole on such a government unprotected site, makes you that much more of a Idiot. If you Are indeed So high in the rankings, Jamie will be contacted shortly, your post will disappear, and you’ll never be able to post again.
Best of luck Dumbass!
Crimanon,
I’m at least seventy years old too.
As for the mole, only a few know where that is, bless ‘em, and they have all signed the government’s Official Secrets Act, haven’t you Daphne, Marion, Phyllis, Katarina, Gretchen, Syrene, Felicity, Yvonne, Kristin … Ahhhh. Time I retired from active service.
Government unprotected? Never, suh! Too much a gentleman for that.
??? you lost me.
Crimanon,
I was just using yours as a word- theme-springboard for a bit of a wrinkley 007 leg-pull based on my own age. Have to try to sprinkle the ponderous stuff with some leavening every now and again or I’d end up like at least one other around here. Sorry it was too scattershot to hit the roundel, let alone the bullseye.
Ah. Got ya. Generation gap, don’t fall in. It’s two floors down. Bond flicks aren’t my thing either. Most references to Double O will go right over my head.
Crimnanon,
Well, not entirely, I do also live in the present. Bond flicks are ongoing, and are also linked by other reasonably recent ‘culture’.
Lying restless abed with insomnia from my tortured, guilt-ridden mind (actually I’d eaten too much cheese too late), it occurred to me I might have put that it was a short gross-out of Austin Powers, and the names were a list from which the appended “… who shagged me” might have come from.
However, if you’re not into Bond you may not even know who Austin Powers is (JOKE, Guv). I’m not a Bond fanatic, I haven’t seen numbers of them, and don’t have Bondfax at my command. However, Bond is a cultural icon, and a useful conversational topic with so many I know and meet.
It’s a bit unfair sticking the generation label thing on me. Trolling through the lists I am astonished how much people know in detail of the history of my times and way back beyond (have a shufti at the recent presidents’ one). I’d also point out that there are no fewer than four Bond lists in Listverse, and they got a decent if modest response. I think I was just unlucky in that you’re not into dublo (as opposed to dubya).
No doubt you’re right about generation though. It occurs to me when I seem to be writing to thin air that it may well be because some specific preoccupations and interests of mine are simply not synchronising with anybody else who’s posting (the great early Disney films currently). However, taste and interests vary hugely within as well as across generations, and most of my friends are far younger than me. Try pulling a dozen or so 7-decaders off the street and see out how many are as currently informed, flexible-minded, and broadly in touch with trends as I am.
I might have added we are also from different countries and cultures, but that’s only marginally and individually significant. I’m perfectly in tune with heaps of fine Americans; in Listverse, in the states, and where I now live
Hey, now here’s co-incidence. There’s a reference to Austin Powers in the ‘Recent comments’ immediately below mine!
Spanner: I’ll refer to the “Hat” arguments earlier. There are still somethings the more “Esteemed” generations will not understand. Like wise, there are things from your generation that I don’t understand, ie Bell bottoms, toupees, and reading the obituaries first in the morning. I’m using US based items, because I’m not quite sure where you are geographically.
Cross-cultural differences help in the everyday. Your slow driving keeps Us young bucks in check on the road and our Need to get things done quicker (when you can find a kid with good work ethic) gets Your food to you at a speed that keeps your complaints down.
The Great Melting Pot that is USA, is over heating and the Fondue that is our society is ceasing up. We need more people of Your mind here. The isn’t enough respect anymore.
When there is a Gap, Make a bridge!
I speak of the generations like I do because I’ve seen the Gap grow wider. Make point that I do not refer to You precisely in my Age rants, just the majority of what I have seen of your generation.
__
Bond flicks I don’t shy away from, I just don’t choose to watch them if there is something better to do. Brosnan is the only Bond that I cared about. I was pretty out of sink with the world for awhile, so I never got the daily recommended Bond that I should have. I’ll take Bourne any day though.
PS. I’m having problems loading YV: Does God Exist. Be patient, be there ASAP.
Those jabs were meant to be taken humorously.
Crimanon, I know, and they were!
Amazing. Nearly everyone puts Connery up there as THE James Bond. I rate Connery as one of my favourite actors (‘The Hill’, ‘The Name of the Rose’, to cite two lesser ones), but he’s too much Connery to sink into a James Bond image for me. I couldn’t agree more that Brosnan is the only one who has recognisable, chiselled features, but not so recognisable that you cannot impose Bond over them. Oh, God, sounds like I’m taking dublo more seriously than I do.
Crimanon, in many respects the age gap was much more rigid and wider when I was a kid. Then I had to kowtow to grown-ups and wait to grow up in order to take part in ‘adult’ life, and could only listen to THEIR music and play with toys and models meanwhile. I sometimes feel I lost out totally, because now I’m condemned to suffer from the other end. I mean the dictatorial tyranny of rich-teeny culture: as so-called music I hate played loudly at me in supermarkets or from neighbour’s houses; as inane graffiti on walls and statues wherever we go; as kids, sweet young girls included, effing and blinding loudly in public places (they often cow adults on public transport too); and as phalanxes of swaggering schoolkids trying to shoulder Anita and me into the road (they often get hit with the sharp end of my shoulder first), etc., etc. The pathetic thing is that many people up to 50 or more are desperately trying to keep abreast of these shifting teeny cultures so that they can be seen as being as young as they’ve made themselves look by silicone and stretching. Of course they’re simply a laughing stock. Whatever happened to growing old gracefully? Then there are the buggers of all ages who wake us up on night buses, interrupt thoughts, peace and conversations by shouting into mobile ‘phones, and who occasionally wipe out a family of innocents when doing the same driving along in a car and losing control. That may make me sound a miserable old fart, but if you read carefully, you’ll notice that every one of my complaints is where other’s behaviour intrudes unacceptably into my (our) life. Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn what people do so long as it doesn’t affect me in a negative way.
So from my angle, it’s as least as much the young who are creating the gap, although I’ll grant you I’m probably more tolerant than most of my age (even politically I’ve metamorphosed from A Young Conservatyve to liberal).
I’ve never worn bell-bottoms. Toupees? I belong to bald pride: my favourite jab at kids who think it’s funny or likely to enrage me when they shout “baldy” is to remind them gently that the strands of dead cells on the outside of their heads are so important to them since they’ve always been bald of live cells on the inside. Of course, they wouldn’t get it like that, so it comes out as, “Better hair-dead than brain-dead like you little *****s”. One day I’ll probably get knifed by a bunch of them.
I only read obits when we are visiting England and staying with friends who take cheap rags like ‘The Times’, ‘The Independent’ and ‘The Telegraph’. However, I can tell you in all seriousness, that I’ve learned so much and found so many fascinating stories about war heroes, inventors and explorers, etc., from obits, that I’m sorry not to be able to read them every morning.
Have a care, baby. Don’t dare label me ‘esteemed’ or I might kick you in the balls for being patronising. Yo be labelled special catefory simply because of the time I’ve been around this earth is only going to cut me off from others. I’ll not have that. Of course, I know, you were only kidding.
English (southern) living and working in South America. Does that put even geographically?
Crimanon,
When I said play with toys and models above, I should make clear that I was referring to model aicraft, ships, etc., not, alas, the type that wiggle their bums seductively along walkways. Chance would have been a fine thing …
Sorry about the garbled last couple of paras, I missed out on checking them. Hope you can make sense.
And ah,
I don’t drive slowly. I drive as fast as I know is safe under the circumstances. Anita often thinks that is too fast.
I love driving at speed. My joint best friend in England is the same age as I am. He drives around single track Devon lanes at around 80 mph. Never seems to have problems, I guess because he knows them like the back of his hand, but it really scares ***** out of me because I don’t. Another friend, just retired, used to drive even faster than that into to London to work and back everyday through a long maze of narrow, winding Es***** country roads.
But they have passed 70 and 60 respectively, and, like me, without accidents involving injury, so I guess that speaks for itself. Fast but careful and experienced.
i feel u josh0, but u must also know that tupac was born into the black panther movement as his parents and grandparents were panther party higher members, his mother was arrested for over a hundred counts of conspiracy to bomb public places and so-on, he was capable of being a leader himself and was definately onto something big in his not to be future, imagine what would be his agender if he was still alive with the contacts he has and you only have to listen to his music and you can see he was thinkin about the way his country was run not just for black but white people aswell, im not sayin he would have become president but i feel he was a threat to white american congress views and had a very powerfull way to reach the community with his views. congess didnt want americas people to call each other n****s and b*****s and become that sort of society. there was lots of incidents with dan quale, wendy williams and so on, they cited rap as evil but it was because of the power of the movement (revolution).He was very capable of making people unite, rally, commit suicide, shoot police and belive in his speech’s.
we have seen entertainers become public figures and generaly they are the ones we admire and respect more than the square ones.
anyway the mystery is who ordered the killing of tupac was it suge knight (his own record label boss),i say yes it was
he is a gangster and had atleast 30 of duty L.a. cops working for him as security and it would have been easy for one of them to shoot him and the rest of them would cover it up- no arrests have been made on either 2pac or biggie murder and the police have said they arnt connected -AS IF -
the same person ordered both murders
OH YE AND THERE IS THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE QUESTION HIS DEATH AS FAKE
EITHER WAY WHAT HAPPEND HAS BEEN COVERD UP THE SAME AS PRINCESS DIANA BUT BOTH WERE PLANNED
59. JoshO – December 21st, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Has anyone thought about Tupac and Biggie. There are theories that our government were behind their so called killings. If you think about it, the time of their deaths were in a time where riots were breaking out everywhere and constantly. during the time of tupac’s death, he was staging a huge riot, one of astronomical numbers, or so I have been told by others, and our government was fed up and didnt want to deal with an incident like that so they just took him out.
Think about this, what are the odds of someone or somebodies getting away with a shooting like that, especially in las vegas where there are many people on every corner at all hour of the night. And there were no witnesses. Now who are the only people who can get away with whatever they want and hide anything they want from the public’s eyes, our government.
Also take this into account. Government officials could have been *****ed at him because of the fact that he got away with killing two cops. The cops tried to assault tupac with weopons they stole from the evidence room and they were intoxicated at the time and were the ones doing the provoking. Tupac shot both of them in self defence.
Just thought I would throw that out there. I would like to hear other’s opinions.
about global warming…
i dont want to believe that its truely happening. but i do because i want humans to see that they aren’t supreme beings..
personaly i think that the climate is changing-not because the greenhouse effect- but because the land is moving…
years ago the land was all joined, like al gore said himself, the land moved and maybe its still doing it… ice caps are melting because they are moving nearer the equator, is-say the usa- moved up it would eventuly becaome an ice dome.
anyway… i still think humans are being selfish
xx
RE 170. Rachel – July 14th, 2008 at 8:15 am
yes that is a good point and they say that the continents shifted and moved a long time ago and if that was true then they should be still moving although it takes millions of years to move just a small way. also they have said years ago that london will be under water in the future and birmingham will be the capital city but i dont know when this is supposed to happen
Rachel and Makavelli-UK,
Makka, You are correct. The tectonic process (continental drift, movement of land surface) happens continuously all the time and it happens extremely slowly. But not so slowly that we don’t get eathquakes and volcanoes when a few metres or so of one plate jabs underneath another. Where I live we get both!
But this has nothing to do with climate change and global warming. It happens so incredibly slowly that both climate and biological life have plenty of time to adapt stably.
If you read above, you will find more views about this subject, some of them extremely stupid, but the main site for it here on Listverse is: ‘Your View: Global Warming’. Some of the stuff is a bit complicated, but you might try. I’ve written there, but haven’t even had time to read all the comments myself (there are 285). Some of them are bound to be stupid as well, so read and think with care!
YES Global warming is not something new hence it is not actually global warming in that sense
and i believe the planet and atmosphere has a self cleaning enviroment that cleans the air and stuff of things naturaly made ie fire smoke and gas’s – everything made here is natural in some degree as it is made from the earths provision even heroin is natural
do u disagree
the rain is recycled and this is part of the self cleaning process
MAKAVELI-UK,
Just read as much (sensible) comment as you can about the subject and try to build a picture from that. When one says one thing, and one another, don’t just accept the one you’d llike to be true, go for the one with the strongest and best argument. As I recommended before, read all the postings on the subject here, and also on the other list. If you haven’t read the book by Al Gore, ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ then you should. It makes a large and difficult subject quite easy to follow. Much better to read the book than see the film too. I happen to broadly agree with Gore’s view. Not everyone does.
ok THE BIBLE AND ALIENS
a different subject the biggest conspiracy of all time has to be the bible as there are numerous refferences to people from space to say the least. also i understand that it has been re-written and translated so many times that it cant be classed as primary information but secondary also out of 80 something books making up the whole book, 20 books are missing which i am told span 400 years.
ufos feature in the bible and in most of the text about yehova, angels, lucifer, and christ it sounds like they are talking about people from space, if they are not then where are they talking about.heaven is another word for sky in its original meaning, people are refferd to as trees as if that was the way humans interpreted that we were put here to grow.
i would like your informed thoughts on this dont just reply if you believe aliens arnt real and god is in the sky with angels and human spirits that have passed away
ON A HUMEROUS NOTE
I KNOW ITS ONLY A WRITING BUT SUPERMAN IS INFACT AN ALIEN
to crimanon. just wanted to say concerning ur post near the top,the future of the world is in our childrens hands not ours, pop stars have more influence on people than so called world leaders ever will,these pop stars are there leaders(kurt cobain, tupac shakur,etc)its important for them to no what happend to them,do you think if bush was assasinted people would still be showing that much intrest in 15/20 years.last year kurt cobain was the highest earning dead artist before even elvis presley.personally i find this more interesting than some dissapering ship,or some women that thinks the virgin mary told her a secret.
zeit g: I’ll do this bit by bit;
“the future of the world is in our childrens hands not ours”… How can a little five year old or a stoney twelve year old or a drunken seventeen year old do Anything productive for the future? It ALL starts with the parents instilling morals and educating children. Without parents this whole place would be Chaos. Lord of the Flies was controversial because that’s the sort of things kids do. Do you want your society like That?
“pop stars have more influence on people”… You mean like Britney, Lindsey, and Paris. If That’s what they are influenced by then I’ll vote for postpartum abortion. Pop culture has replaced family values, and If I wasn’t frank enough just now, then, The Can Call Rot In My Basement.
“do you think if bush was assasinted people would still be showing that much intrest in 15/20 years” If they Don’t then they deserve to burn in the war the will destroy us. I hope our Country is Better than that.
“personally i find this more interesting than some dissapering ship,or some women that thinks the virgin mary told her a secret.” It’s good to know where you stand on these matters, I’m happy that you have an opinion. Even if that opinion makes you look like the Very thing that I’m railing against. You sir, Can Kiss My American Patriot Ass.
I WASN’T GOING TO POST A COMMENT BUT AFTER READING CRIMANON’S I THOUGHT I WOULD SO HERE GOES…
CRIMANON, YOU ARE SO FULL OF YOURSELF IT’S UNTRUE! DO YOU ALWAYS KNOW WHATS BEST? DO ME A FAVOUR AND SEARCH ’2D TV’ ON YOUTUBE AND LOOK FOR THE GEORGE BUSH VIDEO – AND NO, I WON’T KISS YOUR ARSE LIKE A SLOTHERN AMERICAN…I’LL SHAKE YOUR HAND LIKE THE ENGLISH GENTLEMAN I AM!
THANK YOU… THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
‘ELVIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!’
Crimanon,
I think perhaps the most valuable illustration you could have given was Mao’s so-called Cultural Revolution, when 5 year-olds were given the reins and asked to provide information that would send their parents to prison … or worse. It worked, didn’t it? Look where China is now: aping American capitalism. Of course, a bit pointless on this site and to the people you’re addressing now. I imagine the response will be a slack-mouthed, “What’s Mao?”, and “Never heard of The Cultural Revolution. When was their last gig.”
I think you greatly underestimate young people..