Wow, here I am told that if there are no recorded eye witness accounts then it did not happen. Also that if the first accounts of a said incident are recorded years well after the incident, it too, is proof of it being a fable. Hmmmmm. So when I apply this same logic to Jesus, I am considered a blasphemer without faith. I want to believe in Christ, but I am struggling with my own logic, and even more witnessing other men’s influential logic to reason religious ideology throughout history.

But the facts of history show otherwise. The primary proofs that this is all just a fable are these: First, the earliest point that we can trace the legend to is the mid-13th century, but the legend didn’t really gain wide currency until the late 14th century. No evidence of any kind exists from the ninth century (when Pope Joan was alleged to have reigned), nor do we see any in the 10th through 12th centuries. None of the annals or acts of the popes that were written between the ninth and 13th centuries (and none after that, either) mention her.

HIPPOLYTUS: Treatise On Christ And Antichrist

49. By the beast, then, coming up out of the earth, he means the kingdom of Antichrist; and by the two horns he means him and the false prophet after him. And in speaking of “the horns being like a lamb,” he means that he will make himself like the Son of God, and set himself forward as king. And the terms, “he spake like a dragon,” mean that he is a deceiver, and not truthful. And the words, “he exercised all the power of the first beast before him, and caused the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed,” signify that, after the manner of the law of Augustus, by whom the empire of Rome was established, he too will rule and govern, sanctioning everything by it, and taking greater glory to himself.

more can be found here: http://abrahamisaacisrael.tripod.com/

6If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

7For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

and

“But the Holy Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.” 1 Timothy 4:1-3

Speaking to the dead (praying to saints) vs
Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

Praying to Mary instead of Jesus Vs
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

The church can forgive sins vs
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Keeping the first day of the week as Sabbath vs
Hebrews 4:3-11
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: Ps. 95.11
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. Gen. 2.2
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Ps. 95.11
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, Today, after so long a time; as it is said, Today if ye will hear his voice,
harden not your hearts. Ps. 95.7, 8
8 For if Jesus 1 had given them rest, Deut. 31.7 · Josh. 22.4 then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Gen. 2.2
11 Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Ask a present day Jew which day is the sabbath. They have kept the same one since Jesus was here.

Luke 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

Mark 7:7-9

7Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

8For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

The list goes on and on. My point is that the Catholic Church has placed herself above God by changing God’s commandments, and killing his children (See the dark ages). I would hope that whoever reads this values truth at any cost.

As Christians, we should want what Jesus wants, right? John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Some may read this and scoff, and that’s OK. 2 Timothy 4:3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

Please soften your hearts and hear God’s truth.

In regard to Vicarius Filii Dei not being used by the papacy, please see http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_p-vi_apc_19680111_bafianae_lt.html . The name is just one earmark of several identifiers of this ” man of sin “.

I genuinely want the best for everyone (John 3:16). It is not about me being right.
It is about knowing God and doing as he asked us to.
Let go of the anger and ask God by reading the bible, not asking a man. Please put God’s will first and consider this. I really do believe that the Catholic church is the man of sin. But that doesnt mean that Catholics are evil. It just means that God is calling them out of a lying church thats all.

God bless you all.

Tell me if the bible was so glorious and should be followed then why was it written by man, I said man as it was not a women due to the very fact women are displayed as evil in the old testament which oh ho ho was the old believes that women were 2nd class property.

Mayby you guys should watch “what the bleep do we know?” its very hard to follow but everything should make sense once you have managed to get your head round it, which nobody can really as many have gone insane over it…

- Owl