Comments on: Top 15 Quotes of Thomas Aquinas

By: jptw

jptw — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:17:03 +0000

@jptw (115): One of these listverse writers above criticized Christians for having our scriptures. I answer that every science has analogus writings of discoveries they deemed important. The scientists take their notes, submit them to a scientific journal, and perhaps even to many text books. And these date way back even to Archimedes and Aristotle. These are the scientist's scriptures. And if those who love God are in turn blessed with miracles and revelations, should they not also esteem these as important enough to pass on to a respectful posterity? We shall always be extremely proud of all our true and holy scriptures. You can even meet the Lord there.

By: jptw

jptw — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:28:28 +0000

@Bob Morris (92): re : Mathematical Proofs would be earth shaking news.
Or rather they should be but for the polarized nature of all such things having to do with God’s existence. Atheists are pre-disposed against it, and have considerable power in all media forms. No matter how valid they are, I fully expect to remain just another obscure theologian by virtue of media bias. And so, why be in any hurry to release them to an unworthy public? Those who need to know them have received them. Let them release them if they wish. Your bias has deprived you of them.
Circular reasoning my foot. Aquinas starts with sense perceived causality and ends with a first cause. I don’t see the circle. Show me more.

And fyi JPTW and Jerry P. T. Weaver are one and the same.

By: jptw

jptw — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:17:46 +0000

@jptw (112): For all you scientists who insist that non-matter cannot exist, I bring you :
Proof That Non-matter Exists
Let matter be defined as everything that has ever been : matter, energy, time, dimensions, parallel universes, and quantum particles – everything we find in our sensory experience.
Primary working hypothesis : that non-matter does not exist.
From this hypothesis, we must conclude that there exists a huge logical class of everything that was ever matter. And we know from both experience and logic that it is utterly impossible for a thing to cause its own coming into existence; for then it would exist before it existed – an absurd contradiction. And no argument is sound that contradicts its own assertions. Therefore, since this entire matterial class cannot have been caused from within its own class, then it can only be caused from outside that class. But there is nothing material that is outside this class; and outside this class of all matter there is only non-matter; and yet, we saw that the cause must come from outside this universal class. Then, the cause of all matter can only be non-matter; and to cause is to exist. Hence, even when we assume that non-matter does not exist, we must judge against that hypothesis. Hypothesis disproved and non-matter really dose exist.

By: jptw

jptw — Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:48:15 +0000

@Commodianus (106): Excellent work Commodianus. You keep them on point. They also use the fallacies of ad hominem, strawman, and equivocation. Too bad these who worship their little god of science know almost nothing of first logic. But we can smell a fallacy 12,500 miles away. Great nose for the truth.

By: jptw

jptw — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 00:24:24 +0000

@Nietzsche (70): re : “so where are your ‘true’ and ‘valid’ reasons for believing?”
On the contrary, I answer that there is such a thing as misplaced faith, and right reason (true and valid) should stear us away from misplaced faith. And you sir have obviously placed all your faith in science and in college professors who like to trash all religions. But not all religions are alike. And just how is your science to study an object that is invisible (like air), inaudible (like a moving proton), odorless (like clean air), tasteless (like water), and untouchable (like a cubit of empty space). Now you can cop out and just say there are no such objects. But where is your scientific proof of that. You’d be just assuming, and you know what that makes you. No, your science can’t touch that question – Does God exist. You have no scientific tools with which to measure non-matter. You may want to define non-matter into non-existence, but I didn’t think science worked that way. I love science, but I know its limitations. Next time : a short proof for the existence of non-matter

By: jptw

jptw — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:04:41 +0000

@Captain Jerry (71): re : “talking snakes and other nonsense. Please.”
On the contrary, I answer that you are very correct that a talking snake is completely outside of all natural phenomena – the precise requiremnet for a miracle. And provided there is an omnipotent God, then could not an omnipotent God perform such a miracle? It is not so much that a snake was empowered to speak as that Satan, that speaker of fallacies, was allowed by the power of God to assume the form of a snake. And yes, I have even seen a miracle. Yes, really. Would you be interested in financing a polygraph of my miracle (or know anyone who would) plus $1,000 to my charity if I pass it? Let’s get it on.

By: jptw

jptw — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 16:41:04 +0000

@Nietzsche (70): re : …religious beliefs must be based on faith.”
On the contrary I answer that this is only half true. There is a minority body of beliefs that is also able to be proven by human reason (ref. – 1st part of Aquinas’ Summa, the Catholic Encyclopedia, and the 1st part of the new Catechism of the Catholic Church). And foremost among these is whether the existence of God can be proven.

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By: Commodianus

Commodianus — Wed, 20 May 2009 02:14:41 +0000

RE 107:

You mean Nicholas, Bishop of Myra?

Will DO sir. WILL DO.

RE 108 – I have a video of the same dude on my youtube page:

Good for a laugh.

By: Captain Jerry

Captain Jerry — Tue, 19 May 2009 15:58:22 +0000

Commodianus,
I have had a change of heart. See this for inspiration:

Jerry