Top 15 Influential Musicians
- Published December 11, 2007 - 308 Comments
The musical genre, much akin to movies and film makers, is as widely varied as one subject can possibly be. Spanning generations as well as styles; ranging from gospel to funk, from rockabilly to soul, music as a whole has changed lives, encompassed eras, and become, to many, as powerful a messenger as religion. Here are fifteen of the most influential musicians of all time.
15. Bill Haley & The Comets (1952)
Bill Haley & His Comets was an American Rock & Roll band that was founded in 1952 and continued until Haley’s death in 1981. The band, also known by the names: Bill Haley and The Comets and Bill Haley’s Comets (and several variations thereof), was one of the earliest groups of white musicians to bring rock and roll to the attention of white America and the rest of the world. Bandleader, Bill Haley, had previously been a country and western performer; after recording a country and western-styled version of ‘Rocket 88′, a rhythm and blues song, he changed musical direction to a new sound that eventually came to be called Rock and Roll.
14. The Supremes (1961)
One of Motown’s signature acts, The Supremes were the most successful African American musical act of the ’60s, recording twelve American-Number One Hits between 1964 and 1969.Many of these singles were written and produced by Motown’s main songwriting and production team, ‘Holland-Dozier-Holland’, and the crossover success of the Supremes during the mid-’60s paved the way for future black Soul and R&B acts to gain mainstream audiences and success both in the US and overseas.
13. Queen (1970)
Queen are an English Rock band formed in 1970 in London by guitarist Brian May, lead vocalist Freddie Mercury, drummer Roger Taylor, and bassist John Deacon (joining the following year). Queen rose to prominence during the 1970s and are one of Britain’s most successful bands of the past three decades. The band is noted for their musical diversity, multi-layered arrangements, vocal harmonies and incorporation of ‘Audience Participation’ into their live performances. Their 1985 Live Aid performance was voted the best live music performance of all time in a BBC poll.
12. George Clinton & Parliament/Funkadelic (1978)
George Clinton (born July 22, 1941 is an American Musician and the principal architect of P-Funk. He was the mastermind of the bands ‘Parliament’ and ‘Funkadelic’ during the 1970s and early 1980s, and was a solo funk artist as of 1981. He has been hailed as “The Prime Minister of Funk” as the leader of ‘Parliament’, as well as “The King of Interplanetary Funksmanship”. Though Clinton’s popularity had waned by the mid 1980s, he experienced something of a resurgence in the early 1990s, as many rappers cited him as an influence and began ’sampling’ his songs. George Clinton is considered to be one of the most sampled musicians ever.
11. Bob Dylan (1941)
Bob Dylan (born Robert Allen Zimmerman, May 24, 1941) is an American Singer/Song Writer, Author, Musician, and Poet who has been a major figure in Popular Music for five decades. Much of Dylan’s most celebrated work dates from the 1960s, when he became an informal chronicler and a reluctant purveyor of American unrest. A number of his songs, such as “Blowin’ in the Wind” and “The Times They are A’ Changin’” became important anthems of the anti-war and civil-rights movements.
10. Black Sabbath (1968)
Black Sabbath are an English Heavy Metal band from Birmingham. The original band line up of Ozzy Osbourne (vocals), Tony Iommi (guitar), Terence “Geezer” Butler (bass), and Bill Ward.Black Sabbath remain a dominant influence in the heavy metal genre they helped create. VH1’s 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock ranks them second, behind Led Zeppelin. The original and best known line-up are frequently credited as the inventors of the heavy metal genre. Black Sabbath have sold over 100 million albums worldwide.
9. Led Zeppelin (1968)
Led Zeppelin were (and are, though without John Bonham, as of 2007) an English Rock Band that formed in September 1968. Led Zeppelin consisted of Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Paul Jones, and John Bonham. With their heavy, guitar-driven sound, Led Zeppelin are regarded as one of the first, and most influential, Heavy Metal bands. Their rock-infused interpretation of the blues and folk genres also incorporated: Rockabilly, Soul, Funk, Jazz, Celtic, Latin and Country. The band did not release the popular songs from their albums as singles in the UK as they preferred to develop the concept of ‘Conceptual Album-Oriented Rock’.
8. Pink Floyd (1964)
Pink Floyd are an English Rock band that initially earned recognition for their Psychedelic music, and, as they evolved, for their progressive rock music. They are known for philosophical lyrics, Sonic Experimentation, innovative Album Cover Art, and elaborate live shows. One of rock music’s most successful acts, the group has sold over 300 million albums worldwide and an estimated 74.5 million albums in the United States alone. The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) spent 741 consecutive weeks on the USA-based Billboard 200 album chart, the longest duration in history. It is also the Fifth Highest-Selling album Globally of all time with more than forty million units sold.
7. The Grateful Dead (1965)
The Grateful Dead was an American rock band formed in 1965. The band was known for its unique and eclectic style, which fused elements of Rock, Folk, Bluegrass, and Gospel among many others—and for live performances of long Musical Improv. In particular, the band, as one of the first to do so, frequently made use of “long jams”—whereby Jerry Garcia (lead vocals) would spend lengthy periods engaging in rock lead guitar solos that evoked various “depth moods.” Other bands utilized long improvisational jams, but “The Dead” took it to extremes. “Their music,” Lenny Kaye wrote, “touches on ground that most other groups don’t even know exists”.
6. KISS (1971)
KISS is an American Rock Band formed in 1971. Easily identified by their trademark face paint and stage outfits, KISS rose to prominence in the mid-’70’s on the basis of their elaborate live performances, which, as the most prominent band to do so, featured fire-breathing, blood spitting, smoking guitars, and pyrotechnics. Kiss has been awarded 24 ‘Gold Albums’ to date. The group’s worldwide sales exceed 95 million albums. The original lineup of Gene Simmons (bass and vocals), Paul Stanley (rhythm guitar and vocals), Ace Frehely (lead guitar and vocals) and Peter Criss (drums and vocals) is the most successful and identifiable.
5. The Sex Pistols (1975)
Sex Pistols are an English Punk Rock Band that formed in London in 1975. The band originally comprised vocalist Johnny Rotten, guitarist Steve Jones, drummer Paul Cook, and bassist Glen Matlock (later replaced by Sid Vicious). Although their initial career lasted only three years and produced only four singles and one studio album, the Sex Pistols have been described by the BBC as “the definitive English punk rock band.” The Pistols are widely credited with initiating the punk movement in the UK and creating the first generation gap within Rock & Roll.
4. Elvis Presley (1935-1977)
Elvis Aaron Presley (1935-1977), was an American Singer, Musician and Actor. He is a ‘cultural icon’ often known as “The King of Rock ‘n’ Roll”, or simply “The King”. Presley began his career as one of the first performers of Rockabilly (an up-tempo fusion of country and Rhythm and Blues with a strong ‘Back Beat’ His novel versions of existing songs, mixing ‘black’ and ‘white’ sounds, made him popular—and controversial—as did his uninhibited stage and television performances. He recorded songs in the Rock & Roll genre, with tracks like “Hound Dog” and “Jail House Rock”, later embodying the style. Presley had a versatile voice and had unusually wide success encompassing other genres, including gospel, blues, ballads and pop. To date, he is the only performer to have been inducted into four music Halls of Fame.
3. Nirvana (1988)
Nirvana was an American Rock Band that was formed by singer/guitarist Kurt Cobain and bassist Krist Novoselic in Aberdeen (near Seattle), Washington in 1988. Nirvana went through a succession of drummers, with the longest-lasting being Dave Grohl, who joined the band in 1990.With the lead single, “Smells Like Teen Spirit” from their extremely influential 1991 album Nevermind. Nirvana entered into the mainstream, bringing along with it a subgenre of alternative rock called ‘Grunge’, instantly recognizable by its flannel-and-denim jeans dress as well as its near ‘Emo’ appearance and style.
2. The Rolling Stones (1962)
The Rolling Stones are an English Rock Band formed in London in 1962. The band has released 55 albums of original work and compilations, and have had 32 U.K & U.S top-10 singles. They have sold more than 200 million albums worldwide. 1971’s Sticky Fingers began a string of eight consecutive studio albums at number one in the United States. In 1989 the Rolling Stones were inducted into the American ‘Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’ and in 2004 they were ranked number 4 in Rolling Stone magazine’s ‘100 Greatest Artists of all Time’. Their latest album was released in 2005 and accompanied by the band’s highest grossing tour, which lasted into late summer 2007. The Bigger Bang tour had been declared the highest-grossing tour of all time, earning $437 million and landing them in the Guiness Book of World Records.
1. The Beatles (1960)
The Beatles were an English Rock Band from Liverpool, England whose members were John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr. They are one of the most commercially successful and critically acclaimed bands in the history of popular music.
In the UK, The Beatles released more than 40 different singles, albums, and EP’s that reached number one. This commercial success was repeated in many other countries: their record company, EMI, estimated that by 1985 they had sold over one billion discs and tapes worldwide. The Beatles are the best-selling Musical Act of all time in the US. according to the RIAA. In 2004, Rolling Stone magazine ranked The Beatles #1 on its list of 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. According to that same magazine, their innovative music and cultural impact helped define the 1960s, and their influence on pop culture is still evident today.
Contributor: StewWriter











December 11th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Great list! I agree with just about all the choices AND spots
December 11th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Great list!
December 11th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Excellent list. At first I was skeptical about introducing new list writers in, Stew, but I must admit, you do a good job following in the footsteps of THE MAN HIMSELF Jamie.
December 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Oh, come on. Why is KISS, Nirvana and The Sex Pistols in front of Zeppelin, Floyd and Dylan?
December 11th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Because KISS, Nirvana, and The Sex Pistols really kicked off their genres of music, whereas Zeppelin, Floyd and Dylan merely expounded on them. Though I do think Pink Floyd should be a leeeeetle higher.
December 11th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
But KISS, Nirvana and the Sex Pistols suck…
December 11th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
The fact that they don’t suit your personal tastes do not detract from their impact in the world of music.
December 11th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
Bill Haley & The Comets???? Who????
December 11th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
What? No Harry Potter and the magical meat wands?
December 11th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
What about Michael Jackson?
December 11th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
great list. i knew beatles was gonna be top but i think the supremes should be higher based on there influence in society.
December 11th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Oh come on, Jimi Hendrix should be on this list. He probably did more to redefine how we view the guitar more than any musician has with any other instrument.
December 11th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Who’s Bob Dylan?
December 11th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Here’s what I think:
I’m astounded KISS is on the list, not to mention surprised at how high they are ranked. If you want influential for anthem rock, I think you have to say it’s Quiet Riot for getting it onto the map in the first place. And really, how many semi-theatrical anthem-rock bands do you see in KISS’s mold? GWAR?
No love for hip-hop? Eric B. and Rakim, Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Beastie Boys, Wu-Tang, NWA, Young MC (the last one is a joke)?
Without Jimi Hendrix, you don’t have Zep or George Clinton. Without Chuck Berry, you don’t have Jimi Hendrix. Without Muddy Waters, you don’t have Chuck Berry. Without Robert Johnson, you don’t have Muddy Waters. So I guess the final question is this: Where’s Robert Johnson (or anyone I just listed off for that matter)?
I feel David Bowie deserves a place on the list somewhere at the very least.
The Sex Pistols could be on the list, but they really shouldn’t be that high. Where’s the footprint they left today? Modern “punk” references Blink 182 and Greenday. The two bands I just mention cite The Ramones as their primary influence. I could make the same argument for influential English punk band for The Clash.
Bob Dylan is far too low on the list.
If we’re also talking about general musicians, we also have to note other non-pop generas like classical (Andres Segovia, Franz Liszt, Glenn Gould, Yo Yo Ma), Jazz (Miles Davis, Glenn Miller, Hoagy Carmichael, Jelly Roll Morton, Scott Joplin, Django Reinhardt), blues (B.B. King, Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, Son House, Leadbelly, Albert King, T-Bone Walker).
December 11th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
g c: Go write your own list then. No wait, go kill yourself. Yeah thats better.
December 11th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
have you ever heard of classical music? Appart from that, great list.
December 11th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
KISS eats shit and swallows piss.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
I have to say, although I’m shocked that ABBA did not make the list – considering that, next to Queen, the fact of the matter is that they were the most harmonically and compositionally inventive group. This list is clearly related only to non-classical music and should be declared as such.
As much as I enjoy non-classical music – the truth of the matter is that none of these musicians can do anything but bow to the greatness of the likes of Palestrina, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Wagner and the likes. There is no question that these artists are great in their own rights, but none of this music would exist had it not been for the great composers of the past. To state for the record, as well, that it is arguable (and there are many musicologists, pianists, conductors and jazz musicians who agree and debate this constantly) that Beethoven is the inventor of “Jazz.” We know that Jazz has it’s roots in African music along with older American influences (ragtime for example), but Beethoven (the one who was deaf most of his life and therefore the most inventive and original composer of all time) in the 3rd variation of the 2nd movement of the Piano Sonata 32 in C, Opus 111, is the first example of what can be defined as “jazz.” The swung rhythms, syncopations, and harmonic progressions are all extremely advanced for that period of time and certainly would fit modern tastes over the tastes of the 1820’s Viennese public. Just wanted to lay out this very interesting fact for all those music lovers out there.
Unfortunately I think this list is incomplete and perhaps lists need to be prepared to discuss individual genres of music, rather than attempt to be all encompassing, which is practically impossible.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Not bad, but Kiss doesn’t belong in the top 15. They did very little besides letting everyone know that you can get very far in the industry on just image rather than talent. And Michael Jackson should definitely be in the top 5, and Neil Young somewhere in the top ten.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
You gotta love the music lists to annoy people
December 11th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
KKing: I like KISS enough, but I’d have to agree. They kinda did revolutionize the whole big-hair and shocking style thing though.
brodog: There’s a yo momma joke in the making here, but even I’m not that cruel.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Jimi Hendrix… that’s all i can say
December 11th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
Jibil: if you read the about page you will see that I studied classical music at a postgraduate level – so yes – I have heard of classical music and have given over many lists to the subject – and there are many more to come! try http://listverse.com/lists for some of those lists. if you have a particularly good classical list do send it in – I am always keen to expose people to more classical stuff. And welcome to the site
December 11th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
not a bad list, however yes, Hendrix should definitely be on here, as should Johnny Cash. When Bob Dylan was asked who was his greatest influence, he said it was Johnny. Also, Willie Nelson has had a huge influence on the music industry, both in pop and country. he’s wrote more successful songs than any other writer.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
it’s impossible to write a “best of music” list that everyone can agree on, as it all really comes down to personal taste.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
screw you guys, im goin home…
December 11th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
*”haduken”s RajeshRao home for him*
xdarkhorsex: Agreed. For example, while agree Bill Haley and the Comets were very influential, I can’t stand to listen to them for more than five minutes at a time. Or Earth, Wind, and Fire, along the same lines. And frankly, there are more genres with their own “influential” people in them than would be plausible to post without “WARNING: INCREDIBLY LONG LIST AHEAD” nametag. And even then people would probably still, as my mother put once put it, bitch like a stripey cat.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Johnny Cash should be on here instead of KISS.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
My only disagreement with this list is with Queen. Queen is one the most talented bands ever and are still hugely popular today. But I don’t think they were really that influential as far as pushing music in a new directions or redefining a genera.
December 11th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
What, no Velvet Underground? Didn’t everyone who bought one of their albums start a band?
December 11th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
How can this be the most influential musicians of all time when you are only covering two generations of music?
December 11th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Jamie is stirring the pot again i see!
December 11th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
what no Vanilla ICE? the king of rap!
December 11th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Oh, I LUV Queen! Saw them in concert twice–during their Day at the Races tour, and again during their News of the World tour. No new genera, but still–no synthesizers!
December 11th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
I’m not playing the race card or anything because I happen to be a white guy but including only one black group or musician on this list is just not right. Think about all the white musicians that were influenced by black artists. Elvis Presley included.
December 11th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
i see two huge omissions…
where are the beach boys? the fusion of amazing harmonies, excellent instrumentation and pushing boundaries with their success, not just cranking out what everyone expects.
where is anything from the hip-hop/rap genre? eric b. and rakim, grandmaster flash, n.w.a…if we are talking about influence, you really missed the boat, stewie.
c’mon, you’ve got 6 different bands from the u.k. during the 60’s to early 70’s. how can they ALL be influential in the same place at the same time?
are you just sucking up to the brits that are on here?
December 11th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Blogball: I could make such a hugely heated debate out of that one comment that would end up with a comment list longer than the Steven King List could ever dream up possible. That said I think I will refrain
December 11th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Wow, this is a really ambitious list — sure to provoke twits like me with very strong opinions regarding popular music.
To wit:
For the love of all that is holy, can we go back in time and prevent you from putting the Grateful Dead on this list?!?!? It would not be enough for that entry to simply be removed at this time; the fact that they were mentioned, EVER, as being influential, will keep me up tonight in a cold sweat.
And Pink Floyd sucked (mostly) after Syd left…
Great list, though. I would have liked to see Chuck Berry and/or Bo Diddley on here — Bo Diddley put the “rock” in “rock and roll”…
December 11th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Awesome, awesome, AWESOME list StewWriter. I don’t necessarily agree with some of your selections, but this seriously made my night. I LOVE Rock music and I have great respect for anyone else who shares my appreciation. Just one question… where’s Janis?!
December 11th, 2007 at 8:06 pm
good list…..agree with just about everything execept dylan should be atleast in the number 2 spot…and velvet underground should be on here somewhere….and KISS? really? KISS?
December 11th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
also…..Bob Dylan’s biggest influence was Woody Guthrie, not Johnny Cash
December 11th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Come on, man, kiss? They are just the red headed step child of Alice Cooper. He’s the one who started the idea of stage shows/concerts and was the first to use heavy make-up
December 11th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
I’m sure ol Bobby Dylan had a myriad of influences. Woody Guthrie is a huge one. I’ve also read on numerous occasions that he wanted to be “the next Elvis.” Given that, Johnny Cash was probably an influence as well. I think he also studied guitar with Andres Segovia as well. Talk about influences huh?
December 11th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Blogball: I agree with you about the race thing. Where are the black people? The Supremes are great, but I think it’s kind of offensive that Elvis is listed, but not those who influenced him. Almost all of these artists were influenced by black artists.
December 11th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Michael Jackson should be on here somewhere.
And no way in HELL should Nirvana be before Elvis.
December 11th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
what no frank zappa, stevie ray vaughn, ray charles, the who, bb king, i could name so many.. jimi hendrix…
December 11th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
is this list based on how influential these musicians were on other musicians? or how influential they were on society?
if its music, then this list is excellent. if its for society and people, then what about rage against the machine?
December 11th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
I would argue that Miles Davis and The Clash definitely need to be on this list.
December 11th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry too.
December 11th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
My parent’s names are Buddy and Holly. True story. Great list btw.
December 11th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Some of you guys are confusing “most influential” with “first to influence”, big difference. Run DMC really should be up there though, hey…maybe they can replace KISS!
December 11th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Top 3 should be in the order of 1. Beatles, 2. Elvis, 3. Rolling Stones
December 11th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
This is a tough list to pull off. Do you put Dylan or Woodie Guthrie, Nirvana or the Pixies, the band that made it popular or the innovator?
Omissions, in my opinion:
Buddy Holly – invented the current R&R line up, over dubbing, etc. Paul McCartney owns his publishing rights and was heavily influenced, as was Dylan.
Velvet Underground – ask 3/4 of rock bands and they’ll cite the VU as a major influence.
The Pixies – Cobain said Smells Like Teen Spirit is as close to a Pixies Song as you can get without paying royalties.
Bo Diddley – delivered baby R&R from Momma Blues.
Chuck Berry – Stones, Beatles, Elvis, everyone since borrowed from him. Introduced diction to R&B.
Little Richard – Gee, who wasn’t influenced by this guy? David Bowie, Otis Redding, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Mick Jagger, John Fogerty, Dick Dale, Bob Seger, Jimi Hendrix all cite him as a primary influence.
Queen, Kiss, The Dead, Black Sabbath? Are you just screwing with us? Kiss was just a pedestrian version of the NY Dolls. Queen is great band, who have they influenced? The Dead, who have they influenced other than Phish, and who cares about Phish? Sabbath is great, but you already have Led Zeppelin who defined metal until it became very gay and lame.
December 11th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
This is probably one of my top 3 favorite lists. Great Job
December 11th, 2007 at 11:07 pm
Pixies and Velvet Underground should be on this list!!!! Most (good) modern rock bands will suggest one if not both as influences.
As stated below Kurt C. was influenced by the pixies. Nirvana leader Kurt Cobain was clear that without the Pixies, there never would have been a Smells Like Teen Spirit. So i guess they should be more influential then Nirvana.
December 11th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Elvis, Queen, Nirvana, and Led Zepp, I LOVE YOU! I really like the list, my only beef is there is not one representative of country music! One of the following would have been grand: Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Hank Williams, Sr., Dolly Parton, Patsy Cline, I could go on! That aside I still agree with most of it.
December 11th, 2007 at 11:36 pm
I gotta agree that the omission of Buddy Holly is HUGE. With the things he pretty much invented, (i.e. overdubbing) and when MOST of he guys ON the list credit him as an influence, I gotta think he’s pretty influential. There’s a reaseon they called it “The Day The Music Died.”
December 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Terrible list. Just terrible.
I dont mean to hate, and I agree with some of those spots (3). But, may I ask, where is the Jazz? The Classical?
This just seems to be a list of very popular artists as the years go by. In which case, where is the rap?
You even write Most Influencial of “All Time”. All Time! Pay tribute to at least one classical composer that forever changed the face of music. Like Bach, with his Well-Tempered Clavier, the very first time someone bothered to write 2 pieces for every key in music. Or Beethoven who at the time was claimed to destroy music! Or at least pay tribute to a Jazz musician like John Coltrane, his ability alone changed the face of music since the standard to perform jazz became so high. Same with Jaco Pastorius. Cmon… not even Louis Armstrong?
December 11th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
What he said. And it’s been said before: you guys are limiting yourself to one or two generations. Kiss is on your list, Bach isn’t . I don’t get it.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:11 am
Definitely should have Velvet Underground on here. They pretty much jump-started the whole punk rock movement with their attitude and lyrical content.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:27 am
This is a very informed list but I would argue that David Bowie is the single most influential popular musician of the 20th century. Without Bowie there would be no glam, without which there would be no punk, without which there would be no new-wave, goth, or grunge, or even the alternative music movement of the 80’s and 90’s.
Also, much as I am bored by his ambient crap, Brian Eno practically invented electronica.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:28 am
With all due respect to the original list, I can’t believe James Brown isn’t on here, nor in any of the comments. Parliment may be one of the most sampled bands in history but James Brown is the most sampled, period. That, as well as the fact that Parliment lends much of their sound to their bassist, Bootsy Collins who was one of the major bassists in Browns bands. James Brown not only took the soul and gospel music of the day and transformed it in to any of the funk or even disco of the seventies or eighties but his song forms and vocal styles pave the way for all of what we know as hip hop and rap today. Even music aside, the impact that he had on society, looking at the civil rights movement, is to be admired in its own right.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:37 am
Im no expert but as far as influence over australian music Nick cave in my humble opinion should be on there
December 12th, 2007 at 12:42 am
ok…missing the most influencial band of all time….WEATHER REPORT!!! it had miles davis and Jaco Pastorius! fools, they should be in the top five…if not #1
December 12th, 2007 at 1:03 am
Oh good holy sweet jesus people! MY number 1 would be Dr. John–and not for the “Right Place Wrong Time” BS. You want a kick ass album? Dr. John–Gris Gris Gumbo Yaya. Listen and enough said (esp. Gris Gris, and Walk on Gilded Splinters) although every other song on that album is a trip fest. Respect the man for more than some commercial crap. And being a teen in the 90’s (born in 1983)–I see top 10 with Nirvana, but #3?? Nooo. My Daddy may have taught me better, but Zeppelin, Floyd, and Sabbath did a WHOLE lot more for me than that one note band.
December 12th, 2007 at 1:12 am
Bah, just noticed it’s “Infuential Bands” so I retract my Dr. John (still check out Gris Gris though) but I stand by my anti-Nirvana statement. And who exactly did KISS influence?
December 12th, 2007 at 1:25 am
this list is whack in my opinion. Bill Haley and the Comets??? Yeah they’re still influential (sarcasm) try Little Richard or Chuck Berry.
James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Charlie Parker, Bach, Robert Johnson, an assortment of hip hop cats, I could go on and on
Kiss before Alice Cooper?
The Sex pistols have no business at all on this list, they didn’t invent punk rock, you know?
December 12th, 2007 at 1:27 am
When was Miles Davis in Weather Report?
December 12th, 2007 at 1:39 am
No Jimi Hendrix???
December 12th, 2007 at 1:45 am
Why isn’t Alice DJ in the list? LOL, just kidding!
December 12th, 2007 at 3:14 am
Uhhh…i think you meant top 15 influential ROCK musicians? except you forgot jimi hendrix. and pixies. and the velvet underground. and now i just realized other people have already said that.
December 12th, 2007 at 3:55 am
No Grandmaster Flash?
December 12th, 2007 at 4:28 am
No Velvet Underground?
December 12th, 2007 at 4:36 am
coughbowiecough.
Eh, people are going to complain whatever you do. I’m just thrilled that I’ve seen two of the people/bands mentioned live [dylan and the stones - both of which absolutely deserve to be on this list. oh, and one third of nirvana].
So, guys, have you seen anyone from this list in concert? Who? I want details!
December 12th, 2007 at 4:42 am
nicci: I have never been to a rock concert – I have seen lots of famous classical musicians though
December 12th, 2007 at 4:47 am
nicci: one of the things that depresses me most is the knowledge that I will never see the ‘proper’ Queen live
December 12th, 2007 at 6:21 am
probably the worst list (or the most inaccurately-named list) since this websites birth. So many genres have been left out I can’t even begin to think about what the real list should look like. It seems a whole five minutes of flipping through his cd rack has given the author all the info he needs.
December 12th, 2007 at 6:25 am
KISS???? really?????
Wheres Jimi? MC5?
December 12th, 2007 at 6:26 am
bob marley? (man i want my edit button back, even if it doesnt always work lol)
December 12th, 2007 at 7:07 am
Stewie – Gotta make my plug for The Who. My reasoning is simple, most of the punk bands will tell you that they were heavily influenced by the Who. Not just the music either, the wild lifestyle, pissed off attitude and smashing up shit on stage – all of that started with the Who. Pure punk.
Jimi Hendrix not being mentioned is also a pretty huge error in my estimation. Also – it is difficult to place these bands if you don’t add some sort of qualifier like – rock, jazz, funk, rap, classical etc. You can’t really list these things unless there is a nod to Dr. Dre, Run DMC, NWA, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Miles Davis and the classical stuff. There’s a hell of a lot of soul artists that go back to James Brown, EWF. The Blues? – BB King, Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, John Lee Hooker and a butt-load more. Most progressive rock is snickered at, but that kind of experimental stuff was started by the Beatles, yes, but also the Doors. I mean, I don’t really want to say it but James Taylor influenced a shitload of dudes with a guitar and a single spotlight.
Also, who influenced some of the heavies you have on your list? Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson et al.
KISS shouldn’t be anywhere near this list. Who did they influence? Insane Clown Posse? Guar? Wildly popular? Yes, but influential, not really.
Another impossible list, but nice try.
What about John Tesh?
December 12th, 2007 at 7:10 am
I think this list is titled wrong. Except for a few, they aren’t necessarily musicians, but singers, and for the most part, they’re groups, not individuals.
The supremes, to my knowledge, didn’t play any instrument when they performed. For the rest, they may have played instruments, but it was their work as a group that gave them prominence, not their specific skill with an instrument. (And while some may consider the voice of instrument, it gets its own word ’singer’ over musician, so I don’t think it counts.)
December 12th, 2007 at 7:11 am
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
December 12th, 2007 at 7:25 am
stewie, where is the response? you are not on the top commenter list for nothing.
this is just alot of people talking if there is no counter-point.
c’mon, your momma’s ugly and she dresses you funny. (will that get you to come out and play?)
December 12th, 2007 at 7:29 am
Rap doesnt exist at all?
December 12th, 2007 at 7:40 am
Jane you ignorant slut
Dan you pompous ass
Disc – how’s that for point/counterpoint?
December 12th, 2007 at 7:51 am
Describing Nirvana: “near ‘Emo’ appearance and style.” Dude!!! How in the hell do you compare Grunge and Emo!? I’m offended! lol Good list other than that
December 12th, 2007 at 7:55 am
Looks like you might have to extend the list JF.
You probably should have worded your title better or more precise, like “top 15 ROCK musicians”. And mabey adding more lists to include diffrent genres.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:08 am
I would have had Radiohead 9they are AT LEAST as influential as Nirvana!).
Beach Boys. Pixies. R.E.M.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:27 am
VAN HALEN BRO!!!
December 12th, 2007 at 8:40 am
NO SKYNARD OR MARLEY!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!
December 12th, 2007 at 8:44 am
In terms of influence its got to be:
1. Elvis
2. Beatles
3. Bob Dylan
I don’t know if Hendrix should get on this list. Definitely an amazing, great creative musician, but how many musicians were directly influenced? What other popular musicians sounded like Hendrix? Same with the Doors. I don’t know, I hope I’m wrong because I love Hendrix (and the Doors). “Kiss should not get on this list”… I concur…
December 12th, 2007 at 8:55 am
A list like this that leaves off The Smiths is utterly without credibility. Johnny Marr’s guitar style was copied all through the late 80s and into the 90s by dozens of different groups.
Bill Haley is *historically* important but no more influential than any other 50s rock and roller and arguably one could have included Jerry Lee Lewis or Little Richard there (or any number of others) and made the same point. No, Bill Haley doesn’t belong.
But then Buddy Holly SURELY does! And the same goes here as I said for The Smiths… a list claiming to name the TOP 15 INFLUENTIAL MUSICIANS that leaves off Buddy Holly is completely without credibility. Holly was an influence on nearly every British Invasion group there was, and remains an influence *to this day* on popular music. Cripes.
One could also say Roy Orbison should be here, though his influence was far less important…
But what about RAY CHARLES? Johnny Cash? CHUCK BERRY?
QUEEN? Who the hell did Queen influence? Or KISS for that matter? The only thing one could say about Kiss was that they were the best-known “Glam Rock” group—but if you want to name the top “Glam Rock” artists who had the most *influence,* you’d go for David Bowie and The New York Dolls.
So for that matter—where the hell is DAVID BOWIE? Far more an influence than either Kiss OR Queen!
It seems to me that whoever wrote this list made some of these selections because they mistook the popular for “influential.”
Of course, it was hard to get some of these wrong–as much as I’m no big fan of Pink Floyd, for example, I have to admit their influence… but come on—the glaring omissions—and the inclusion of Kiss and Queen—make this list mediocre at best.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:14 am
well, i guess i’m showing my age… or just my ignorance… but the only thing I know about Buddy Holly is the fact that Weezer mentions him (or it? is it a band or a person) in that song.
Yeah, I guess I am that dumb
December 12th, 2007 at 9:16 am
I’m sorry, I’m so thrown by this list that I have to follow up my own previous posting… and I hate to use Wikipedia as a source, but it was the most convenient available… here are quotes from it on just THREE of the artists who SHOULD be on this list… bumping off Queen, Kiss, and Bill Haley, let’s say:
THE SMITHS:
“Considered by some critics to be the most important alternative rock band to emerge from the British indie scene of the 1980s, the Smiths have had a major influence on subsequent alternative music, including the Britpop movement and bands such as The Stone Roses, Radiohead, Blur, Suede, Oasis, The Libertines, The Verve and Doves.”
BUDDY HOLLY:
“In 2004, Rolling Stone Magazine ranked him #13 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. Although his career was cut short, his body of work is considered among the most influential in rock. His works and innovations were copied by his contemporaries and those who were to follow, including The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, and had a profound influence on popular music.”
CHUCK BERRY:
“Chuck Berry is an influential figure and one of the pioneers of rock and roll music. According to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s website, “While no individual can be said to have invented rock and roll, Chuck Berry comes the closest of any single figure to being the one who put all the essential pieces together.” Cub Koda wrote, “Of all the early breakthrough rock & roll artists, none is more important to the development of the music than Chuck Berry. He is its greatest songwriter, the main shaper of its instrumental voice, one of its greatest guitarists, and one of its greatest performers.” John Lennon was more succinct: “If you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it ‘Chuck Berry’.”"
Now come on. That’s just THREE. CHUCK BERRY should be in place of Bill Haley.
And frankly I don’t think Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd *really* belong here either. Pink Floyd was an influential group… but again—more than Bowie? I’m not even sure they were more influential, than, say, Roxy Music.
Come off it. This list was written by someone who knows *the popular* groups, but doesn’t know the real *history.*
December 12th, 2007 at 9:17 am
Hello Randall! I buggered off for a while (because you told me to)
I do agree with you this time. Ommissions galore, read my earlier post. But I wasn’t really into the Smiths, so I can’t really comment on that. I’ll have to take your word for it.
And by the way, did you know that David Bowie said he was trying to imitate Syd Barrett from early Pink Floyd?
This list is reminding me of the Beatles list.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:22 am
But I do disagree with you about Floyd. First in space and all.
They had a shitload of heavies going to their sound experimentation concerts in the late 60’s. (like the aforementioned Bowie)
I never really got into Roxy, so I’m not sure where your coming from there. Floyd definitely had a much bigger impact – but I can’t really say about influence.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:25 am
“And by the way, did you know that David Bowie said he was trying to imitate Syd Barrett from early Pink Floyd?”
No, I never heard that, though it’s possible. As I said in both my postings, I acknowledge Floyd’s influence… but the more I think about it, placing them in the top 15… not so much. Bowie may have based some of his style on Syd, but I’d argue that Bowie ended up being the more major influence on subsequent musicians.
But that’s a minor point–what bothers me much more is the inclusion of Kiss and Queen—two mediocre, non-influential groups—and the terrible omissions I pointed out.
And no one has to take MY word on The Smiths—they need only look it up… *practically anywhere.*
December 12th, 2007 at 9:30 am
Buclsim: “I never really got into Roxy, so I’m not sure where your coming from there.”
Well, my point was, there are lots of groups you could pick out of the air that had some pretty heavy influence on subsequent groups and artists… Roxy would be one of them. But just because you didn’t get into them, doesn’t mean they didn’t have their influence.
But I’m not stumping for Roxy Music… I AM saying that several of these selections just plain don’t belong here, and there are several that should *definitely* been on here, and were left off.
I would not have included Black Sabbath–again, not because they *lacked* influence—but the question is, should they be in the top 15? On a list that leaves off The Smiths, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry and Johnny Cash? Or Ray Charles? Or cripes… Bo Diddley for that matter? Come on.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:33 am
jfrater: geez, nothing like a music list to get everyone pissy, is there?
December 12th, 2007 at 9:33 am
Who did Hendrix really influence that is of any importance today? Lenny Kravitz? Gee….thanks, Jimi.
I don’t feel Queen is that influential & feel a band such as Nirvana is too modern to make the list. They have surely influenced plenty of musicians, and not-so-much musicians that exist these days but again, what are those bands contributing to the long term? We’d have to wait to see. The VU & Beach Boys do belong as does a representative of the early blues greats that then influenced Zep & Sabbath, who then in turn influenced Nirvana, etc…
To me, to have a list of true influences you have to go back to the original sources and what their contributions were, if you’re only going to pick 10 or 15 to start with. That’s where Robert Johnson, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Bill Haley, Buddy Holly, Elvis, Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc etc come into play. That’s when you get someone like the Beatles or Stones, who take those artists, combine it with their own take, and spit it all out entirely new & original.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:35 am
Emily: yep – I am in hiding in case someone tries to lynch me!
December 12th, 2007 at 9:36 am
Have to agree with Randall on his suggestions, even tho I hate The Smiths, but Pink Floyd should definably be there. You may not hear their influence on musicians but they completely changed the way a song could be shaped, as did The Beatles.
Their live performances were also a first in the way they put on a show and a performance instead of just a performance
December 12th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Randall: Queen mediocre? I think you may be listening to the wrong band!
What everyone should be doing is going right back to the monks back in medieval times. They influences the renaiccance composers, who influenced the baroque composers, who influenced the classical composers, who influenced the romantic composers etc. It goes on.
Same with the original african musicians. They brought their music over to america, which then evolved yada yada yada.
So what this list should be is a list of 15 medieval monks and African cheiftains. None of this ‘The Smiths’ or ‘The Beatles’.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Jamie… *tell* me you didn’t write this list. Please.
Jmurf:
There are a couple groups on here I don’t like, myself–The Grateful Dead, for instance. But I acknowledge their influence. The Smiths, whether you like them or not, *were* a tremendous influence.
I also don’t want to make this a debate about Pink Floyd–I do acknowledge they had an impact. I question the *extent* and *depth* of their influence—but that’s almost nitpicky.
I’m far more bothered by the inclusion of others on this list, and by the omissions I’ve mentioned.
AnotherEngine: THANK YOU! I totally forgot about the Velvet Underground! I’m ashamed. (Seriously, I am).
December 12th, 2007 at 9:49 am
Another Wikipedia quote (this makes the most times I’ve even looked at that site in a single month, let alone a day):
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND
“Although never commercially successful whilst together, the Velvet Underground are often cited by critics as one of the most important and influential groups of their era. A famous remark, often attributed to British musician Brian Eno, is that while only a few thousand people bought the first Velvet Underground record upon its release, almost every single one of them was inspired to start a band. Their sound influenced many later musicians in many genres, including experimental, post-punk, new wave, and gothic rock.”
December 12th, 2007 at 9:53 am
Nice list! I’d have put the Beatles/Dylan/Elvis as top three- but that’s just me.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:53 am
dangorironhide:
Yes, Queen was a pompous mediocrity. I’m quite sure I’ve got the right band, thank you.
December 12th, 2007 at 9:54 am
Randall,
says Contributor: StewWriter
December 12th, 2007 at 10:28 am
evan:
Huh?
December 12th, 2007 at 10:33 am
Another engine – uh dude, try just about every fricken guitar god on the planet and under the ground. Stevie Ray Vaughn, Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, Ted Nugent, James Hetfield, Slash, Carlos Santana, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani – it all boils down to Hendrix.
Yeah, Lenny Kravitz too.
December 12th, 2007 at 10:37 am
John Tesh influenced me to pour gas on myself, tear my ears off with a pair of pliers, gargle with Draino, eat glass, shoot my parents, kick my dog and drive my car of a bridge into a ravine ending in a twisted ball of metal and flame.
Does that count?
December 12th, 2007 at 10:39 am
John Tesh just makes me gassy. Sometimes gives me acid reflux.
December 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Randall:
I hope you mean KISS, what the hell are they doing there????????
Bit off topic but has anyone heard of Rory Gallagher? He went on tour with hendrix and b.b king, but was kicked out as he regularly outshone their talents. I was told himself and hendrix had a guitar-off at a concert in leeds and hendrix was played off the stage. This might also have been due to jimi being off his head
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video of him playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjDFBNYBBvA
December 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Jmurf:
You lost me. Yes, I was also against Kiss being on this list… I thought I made that clear. (?)
December 12th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
I hate to disagree with you on my first post…but,
I agree with Beatles, Elvis, Grateful Dead, Zeppelin, and possibly Bill Haley.
Some additions I would add are Bach or Beethoven, Louis Armstrong, Bill Monroe, Earl Scruggs, The Who, Hank Williams SR.
December 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
This is the most demented list I’ve ever seen here. You’ve got Kiss instead of Frank Sinatra, and you don’t have the Kinks, that’s not kinky, that’s perverse.
Actually, I re-read the list and out of the fifteen, I would only seriously argue Kiss and Queen.
December 12th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
No Miles Davis? No Hendrix?? Blasphemy!
December 12th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Okay, no way in hell I’m reading all of these comments (sorry.) but I think Buddy Holly should have made it on here! I think it could have been a pretty good Top 20 too, it’s so hard to pick, but I think this is a good list. =)
December 12th, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Umm….why is Queen so low on this list?
They started out as hard rock and stuff, but seriously, they were so different!
They wrote in all genres. Metal, pop, dixie-land, rock, hard rock, classic rock, skiffles, rock-opera, jazz, everything!
they got people listening to Rock-Opera!
(Um, yeah. Bohemian Rhapsody, that one rock-opera song that is consistently voted best song of all time)
And their performances! C’mon now, they’re famous for their live concerts! They had almost 700 of them!
Ergh. This is why I don’t like your music lists.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
I listen to all genres of music; rock, rap, classical, jazz, blues. Here’s my list of then 15 Most Influential Artists.
1. Elvis Presley
2. The Beatles
3. Johann Sebastian Bach
4. Bob Dylan
5. Run-DMC
6. Led Zeppelin
7. B.B. King
8. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
9. Miles Davis
10. Robert Johnson
11. Jimi Hendrix
12. The Clash
13. Chuck Berry
14. Eric B. & Rakim
15. N.W.A.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
^ That was me by the way. It wouldn’t let me log in or use my name, so I added an extra ‘d’ to ‘dazed’.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
the beatles inspired boy bands. i dont think that deserves number 1.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
Come on, Velvet Underground should be in the top three…I can’t believe they’re not on here. Pixies should probably be here too.
December 12th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
new york dolls
blink 182
December 12th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
no doors? /cry
December 12th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
People that should make the list:
The Stooges. Invented Punk Rock in the 60’s.
Bing Crosby. No kidding. He should be among the first 3, if anything.
Buddy Holly. Omitting him and keeping Kiss is just not kosher. At all. Because Kiss means nothing.
David Bowie. He invented 70’s rock music, basically.
Janis Joplin. A tremendous influence on female rock n rollers.
Black Sabbath. Good call. Every hard rock band knows the Ozzy-era sabbath albums inside and out. Huge Influence. More so than Led Zep, for sure.
Elvis should be first. He just cannot be denied that spot, because without him, no Rock n Roll.
Bob Marley. The one Reggae artist everyone knows. Say Desmond Dekker, and you get a blank stare.
Deep Purple. It’s a toss up between Sabbath and Purple. DP’s In Rock WAS the first real hard rock album, though.
And I just have to mention Al Jolson – not a guy you’ll hear everyday on the radio, but his impact was so great that he deserves a place on the list.
The Smiths ? Wasn’t that whining rock for yuppies ? Grateful Dead, a huge influence ? I certainly hope not. People who love them, REALLY love them – as for the rest of us…Nah. I never got the whole Nirvana thing. Perhaps they were some kind of trailblazers. Not to the extent that they should be on the list, in my opinion.
December 12th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
I can’t NOT BELIEVE u didn’t include 2pac….easily one of the most influential artist of all time…he’s right up there wit Cobain,…anyone who has really listened to his music would agree…i like Jim Morrison as well.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
I think I like DDazedandconfused’s list at #120 better than yours, Stew. And I will agree that KISS and the Sex Pistols have no place on a list of influential musicians. Influential showpeople, maybe, but that’s a whole different category.
Really I don’t think you can easily hold a list like this down to twenty. I like the addition of Bowie, Roxie Music, and the Stooges, except that it’s hard to pick out their heirs in the modern scene. (Has there ever been, and will there ever be, anyone like Bowie?) I think you do need to go back to Mozart, Bach and Beethoven — and while you’re at it, Berlioz, who, as well as being a thunderous composer, also devised the symphony orchestra as we now know it. How’s that for influential? Then there’s John Dowland, and even earlier there’s Palestrina.
Oh, and Dick Shoes, stay out of the comments until you’ve grown a brain. The Beatles were not a “boy band.” They took rock music and recording technology, and the very CONCEPT of what a band could be, lightyears further than anyone on the list. And in some ways, THEY are the originators of heavy metal and hard rock. Everyone from the Stones to Zep to Bowie to Floyd to the Beach Boys and dozens more freely admitted they ripped off the Beatles … who freely admitted their heroes were Chuck Berry, Elvis and Little Richard.
December 12th, 2007 at 8:41 pm
ok ok ok…..this list sucks……..some of them….zep…floyd…beatles……they stay…..others gots to go…ok the stones stay too…..but they dont have rush………um…did we forget lynyrd skynyrd……..and no one seems to add a bit of hendrix…k..zep(1) floyd(2) beatles(3) rush(4) and then who ever you want…dont matter from there….
December 12th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Where is:
Television…
the clash….
The who….
bowie….
come on those are a given.
December 12th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
my list….
1. Elvis
2. The Beatles
3. Frank Sinatra
4. Johnny Cash
5. The Clash
6. The Sex Pistols
7. Eric Clapton
8. Bob Dylan
9. Bob Marley
10. Robert Johnson
11. Led Zeplin
12. Run DMC
13. Jimi Hendrix
14. Chuck Berry
15. Nirvana
December 12th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
This was a great list!!!!
But of course there might have been a slight oversight. I think you forgot to put Robert Johnson on the list.
My goodness how many bands have not covered this guy? Heck, we even get the whole idea of selling your soul for rock and roll from him. How many people have gone searching for the crossroads and the devil?
Zep, Stones, Clapton, Aerosmith, Zevon, Dylan, Dickey Betts have all been signifcantly influenced by this guy. You could even make a list called “top 20 musicians influenced by Robert Johnson!”
And of course his recordings are excellent!
December 12th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Wow. Poor, poor Mozart…
December 13th, 2007 at 12:31 am
I hadn’t commented here because I don’t have a lot of knowledge of rock music/pop music, but this is a list of influential modern musicians – it was not meant to include classical composers. So – as so many people have bemoaned their absence – I will write a list of the top 15 most influential composers sometime soon!
December 13th, 2007 at 3:19 am
How about Chuck Berry ?
December 13th, 2007 at 3:38 am
I went to the menu on the Bill Haley one and watched Swing Dancing to Bill Haley and the Comets (1956) was great to see the dancing. Wow bring it back! Trouble is it was before my time then and now I’m too old lol.
December 13th, 2007 at 6:22 am
This list is clearly based on a blinded view of what is “influential” when all most of the artists did is sell a lot of albums with mediocre music (K.I.S.S is quite possible one of the most terrible rock artists in the history of music, and they do not deserve a spot on any “positive” list). Now, I agree that Black Sabbath, Nirvana and Elvis Presley extremely influential, but there are other artists that should be there, but aren’t because the entire list is limited to only the most famous artists. Venom, Korn and Metallica should be on the list, and I expected the latter two even if Venom didn’t have a chance, but I wasn’t even granted the chance to see Metallica on the list.
And to avoid sounding like a closed-minded metalhead, I also think artists such as Tupac, Frank Sinatra and Madonna (I hate all three, but my opinion fails to make them less influential on the music industry) should be up there.
So, if you ever decide to make a list of the most influential artists of all time again, I would suggest renaming this one “My own opinion that I try to pass off as a relevant list”, and going from there.
December 13th, 2007 at 7:00 am
How about a list of the top ten most influential musicians who don’t like Led Zeppelin and voted for the worst presidents favorite Beatles songs?
(and you have to look at the list cross-eyed until it becomes one image)
December 13th, 2007 at 7:17 am
bucslim: if you put that together I will strongly consider posting it
December 13th, 2007 at 7:23 am
Upon further reflection (see my postings up above at #92, 94, and 105) I honestly think this is one of the worst lists I’ve ever seen on this site. Badly conceived and clearly written by someone without a *clue* about the history of modern music.
December 13th, 2007 at 7:24 am
oh, and in my humble opinion, the list should be yanked.
December 13th, 2007 at 9:18 am
i cannot believe jimi hendrix is not on the list he perfected the guitar. i go to this site often and usually enjoy the lists but i’n outraged that hendrix was left off. he is one of the best performers of all time and influenced everyone, even people who don’t play music. he is a person hero of mine and should be on this list.
December 13th, 2007 at 11:33 am
There’s a pitiful shortage of black artists on this list. Considering they invented rock and roll, that’s an egregious error. How about Ray Charles? Little Richard? Ike Turner? Rufus Thomas? Get Bill Haley out of there: nobody ever sounded like him or wanted to. As for artists who retailored black music for white audiences, forget the Supremes – Sam Cooke blazed that trail, and Nat King Cole before him. Rock divas? Don’t forget the Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin. Queen is just warmed over Led Zeppelin, get rid of them. Jimi Hendrix is the guitar god, no player doesn’t have him as an influence. The Grateful Dead couldn’t keep up with the Allman Brothers on their best day. Forget the Stooges and all the other punks and grunge acts – the Velvet Underground has all that covered. Kurt Cobain is Lou Reed with a tenth of the talent and without the guts to stay alive and take on middle age. Kiss is music for people who don’t like music: give them an award for best makeup and send them home. And where’s the hip hop? Ice T, NWA, Public Enemy – one of them should get a mention. But speaking of that – WHERE’S JAMES FREAKIN’ BROWN? For God’s sake, even Zeppelin bowed to him.
December 13th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
While I’m thinking about it: the Byrds deserve a mention for electrifying folk music and paving the way for Dylan and all his followers. And the Beach Boys are gods to any group that wants to approach the state of the art in vocal harmonies. And every female singer acknowledges a debt to Joni Mitchell – surely there’s room one woman singer-songwriter on this list? And then there’s Buddy Holly, who gave the Beatles and Bob Dylan permission to be singer-songwriters. And the group who reinvented the rock concert as theater – the Doors, without whom David Bowie, Alice Cooper, Marilyn Manson, and all the rest would be working at Wal-Mart. And Talking Heads, who made it okay for nerds to be rock and rollers. Hm. Don’t think we can limit this list to just 15.
December 13th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
“QUOTE – Martin L.
Oh, and Dick Shoes, stay out of the comments until you’ve grown a brain. The Beatles were not a “boy band.” They took rock music and recording technology, and the very CONCEPT of what a band could be, lightyears further than anyone on the list. And in some ways, THEY are the originators of heavy metal and hard rock. Everyone from the Stones to Zep to Bowie to Floyd to the Beach Boys and dozens more freely admitted they ripped off the Beatles … who freely admitted their heroes were Chuck Berry, Elvis and Little Richard.”
bro that would be the stones not the beatles.. how old are you. back in the day beatles fans were 8 year old girls and stones fans were the men. The beatles were the first boy band period they are a joke and always will be a joke. The media and VH1 are the ones who made you think they were inspirational or even good. Please explain to me how Love me do, i am the eggman, and i want to hold your hand, can be taken seriously and held with any artistic merit. they are a joke and will always be a joke. I throw a party everytime one of them dies because fuck ups like you hold their dumbasses up on a pedistole and never did research to find out what kind of media whore’s these talentless twinks were.
god bless
December 13th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
and martin..
i dont think you are going to find one heavy metal group that will ever say they were inspired by the beatles. That’s like saying Picasso was inspired by shit stains drawn on paper by 3 year olds. The originaters of heavy metal is and always will be BLACK SABBATH. period end of discussion. go filatiat paul’s rockstare son jessey. oh wait he himself did the same thing his dad did. sing to 6 year olds
December 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
dick shoes:
Are you for real, or is this some kind of a bizarre joke?
Yes, you are a total moron. That’s clear.
How old are YOU, “bro?”
It’s obvious you’re some teenage/twenty-something punk who hasn’t got a clue. And yet you pretend to speak with authority about historical events that occurred WELL before you were probably born.
Your statement that the Beatle’s fans were “8 year old girls” is laughable. The Beatles fans ran the gamut in age, doofus. *BOB DYLAN* was a fan of the Beatles from the moment he first heard them.
But oh yes, The Beatles’ music has only survived these last 45 years because VH1 has forced them on us.
Oh—kay.
“Retarded” is the word that comes to mind as I read this post of yours.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
THANK you, Randall. Thank you.
Dick Shoes: I’d liketo point out that you, not I, are a sad dupe of MTV and VH-1. I grew up with the Beatles, and know that their fans cut through practically every demographic, as Randall says. You a) confuse the Stones with the Beatles in terms of greatness, and b) can’t even spell pedestal, or fellatiate. As far as Beatles prefiguring heavy metal, listen to “Helter Skelter” or “I Want You/She’s So Heavy.” And when Plant, Page and Jones were first getting their little band together, they played for the Beatles and ASKED THEIR OPINION. At which time John said opined it would go over like a lead balloon — from which response the band took their name.
How pathetic that you throw a party every time a Beatle dies. It’s YOUR opinion of Black Sabbath that’s been informed solely by cable TV. Deep Purple was in there ahead of them, as were MC-5 in the 60s, a time period concerning which we need to hear no further pearls of your wisdom.
December 13th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
Okay, now that I’m calmer: one more candidate for the list. Nobody’s mentioned Les Paul, inventor of multitrack recording and the solidbody electric guitar, besides being an excellent guitarist in his own right for over fifty years. Of course it’s his inventions more than his playing that have enriched modern music, so maybe he belongs on an inventors list … there is one around here someplace, isn’t there?
December 13th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
why the beatles were bad
WHEN I was growing up one thing was patently obvious: young people were either this or that. Not a bit of this and some of that. It was black and white with no Grey.
It was whether you were a fan of ‘The Beatles’ or a fan of ‘The Rolling Stones’. It was that simple.
The end of the 1950s ‘mods’ and ‘rockers’ era, had a shift, such that if you were a ‘rocker’, you generally liked ‘The Rolling Stones’, and if you were a ‘mod’ you liked ‘The Beatles’. Prepubescent, good, and white girls were usually in with ‘The Beatles’, gathering around ‘Dansette’ record players and ‘Radiograms’ to listen to the new ‘Pop’ music on ’45s’, while boys liked ‘The Rolling Stones’.
Sure, that is an over-simplification, for example, boys seemed to either like football or music, and the division between ‘The Beatles’ and ‘The Rolling Stones’ was not merely about gender, but about attitude, clothes and youth identity and culture.
As a family, we were ‘cool’ (like ‘The Fonz’) — we were more ‘The Rolling Stones’ than ‘The Beatles’. And I am comfortable with that, in fact I am glad for that.
To this day I think ‘The Beatles’ are an over-rated pop group. They were in existence from what, 63 to 70 — 7 or 8 years? And they went from ‘She Loves You Yeah Yeah Yeah’ to ‘Revolution No.9′. It was a mess.
I HATE ‘Oblidioblidah’ almost as much as I HATE ‘Yellow Submarine’.
Oh! How could anyone rate this group? They were awful, they had zero ’street cred’ and they were merely the first to be exploited. If there is one thing that can be said about ‘The Beatles’ is that they were manufactured through-and-through. Because of ‘The Beatles’ we have the record business, the teen-pop marketing machine, the fashion tie-in, the posed magazine photograph, and the cheeky interview.
The crowds of screaming teenage girls invented by Sinatra’s people and groomed by the Presley camp, were simply moved on to the next thing — and this tradition continues yet.
On the other hand, ‘The Rolling Stones’ have continued — they still tour, they still sell lots of recordings, and they stuck to what was honest and truthful — themselves and their music.
‘The Beatles’ tried to be ‘cool’ and failed. They refused to accept their gongs from the Queen (what happened to those ideals, SIR Paul McCartney??). McCartney formed ‘Wings’ with his sad-looking wife, and launched with the worst and most childish gibberish ever imposed on the public. Lennon was even less talented, and his child-like endeavours were even less-well received than Mccartney’s. Ringo Starr did children’s TV voice overs and Harrison had a decent enough career away from the others.
* From their solo careers, it is patently obvious that ‘The Beatles’ were a creation. Whatever talent they may have had musically was early, manipulated and short-lived.
Probably the most amazing time in the history of music is the mid 1970s — when people could record on cassette tape from cheap radios and music centres, when synthesisers appeared, when types of music merged, when Progressive Rock was invented along with Punk, when the music business felt threatened by illegal taping, bootlegs, and the independents.
‘The Rolling Stones’ went onto even greater success, they exploited the laser shows, the big stadium gigs, the new instruments and recording techniques. The solo careers fitted the expectations and qualified ‘The Rolling Stones’ as a band of talent. Compare that with the same period for the solo careers of each ‘Beatle’! ‘C Moon’? ‘Mary Had A Little Lamb’? ‘Hi Hi Hi’???
Like so many manufactured pop bands, ‘The Beatles’ were short-lived and essentially cheap-throw-aways. They were cartoons, they were hairstyles, their songs should have been thrown away too; they are pop and therefore worthless.
George Martin was very talented musically and he managed to take whatever was chanced upon and make something of it. He has milked that cash cow long and hard ever since — and is a crashing bore as a result. It is a great pity he cannot take the credit he is due. On the other hand I wish he would just leave it all alone to fade away as it really should.
I am not advocating ‘The Rolling Stones’, but I am trying to correct the rewriting of history: people seem to have forgotten the ‘Stones vs Beatles’ thing. People seem to have forgotten that ‘The Beatles’ were not cool.
Sorry world, but ‘The Beatles’ were made out to be more popular than they really were. They milked the media machine dry. They had no competition (unlike the world today). Their fanbase was preteen girls.
We were cool; we didn’t like ‘The Beatles’ in our neighbourhood. Boys went on to like Led Zeppelin, Cream and Jimi Hendrix — album bands, and girls filled the vacuum left by ‘The Beatles’ with ‘The Bay City Rollers’ a couple of years later.
Pop acts like ‘Sweet’, Alvin Stardust, David Essex, Gilbert O’Sullivan, Leo Sayer, ‘Bony-M’, Gary Glitter, The Osmonds, The Jackson Five, David Cassidy and ‘Abba’ took over the pop scene.
Girls and the preteens were the ones buying pop — they listened to (and recorded) the BBC pop chart every week. Teen Boys refused to have anything to do with pop music — they NEVER watched ‘Top of The Pops’ — they watched ‘The Old Grey Whistle Test’ and ‘The Tube’.
Now you know why ‘The Beatles’ were bad — they had little talent individually and musically, they were pretentious and fake and created all that is pretentious and fake in the pop world. Time to step out, stop believing the bullshit and hype, stop following the revisionism, let the truth be told! ‘The Beatles’ were bad!
December 13th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
the truth hurts martin and randall.. it hurts.
December 13th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
“dick”:
Clearly this is taken from SOME article or essay. CITE what you quote, kid—otherwise it’s called plagiarism.
Now… this bit of vitriol was obviously written by some Brit of the day (which you just as obviously, from your previous syntax, are NOT—I have no doubt you’re some pimply American 17 year old, or thereabouts) who has an axe to grind; someone, clearly, has issues they haven’t resolved since they were a teenager themselves in the NINETEEN-Freakin’-SIXTIES.
And just as obviously, “dick”, you’ve yanked out this solitary acidic article in some hopeless attempt to make your case—and worse, it’s probably the ONE article in the entire world that you’re basing your view on. And yet you accuse others here of being “duped.” Real smart, kid.
Because we could pull out DOZENS of essays and articles with an ENTIRELY opposing view—written ALSO by people WHO WERE THERE.
This is moronic; A) there’s nothing wrong with “pop” music—-people who make a show of despising music simply because it’s pop are poseurs, pure and simple—and B) this writer’s idea that the Beatles were made out to be more popular than they were is so laughable it can’t even be credited. The author of this piece is obviously off his nut, and never having grown up out of his “rocker” hatred of the Beatlesm, he has crustily grown to a point where he can’t even see straight anymore.
He obviously SO DESPERATELY wants us to believe his twisted version of reality that he keeps making over-the-top statements averring that “Teen Boys refused to have anything to do with pop music” and so on—as if he and HE ALONE knows what EVERYONE else in Britain was doing and WHY they were doing it.
“dick,” you’ve fallen for the writings of someone with an essentially authoritarian “only I can be right” mindset, like the kind of softbrains who fall for conspiracy theories.
Since we could cite for you a virtually *endless* series of statements and opinions that would totally contradict this clown’s words, your postings–and his thoughts–are worthless.
45 years later, the music of the Beatles survives and is still hugely popular. That alone is proof enough that–regardless of whether they were “the greatest” or not–they certainly weren’t “pretentious and fake,” nor were they “bad.”
Grow up and get some critical thinking skills, “dick.” Getting all your information from a single, nutbrain source is no way to advance yourself in life.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Martin L – good points, but I believe it was Keith Moon who coined the led zeppelin comment.
December 13th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Dick,
Congrats, I think you’ll probably win some prize for being the stupidist person to comment on this site. Your farcical comments make absolutely no sense whatsoever. He doesn’t have to quote, Randall, he’s making it up as he goes.
If you wanna say you don’t like the Beatles, fine. Calling them talentless is intergalactically fucking insane.
Either it’s time to up the meds or you need some serious Jungian throwdown pal.
December 13th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
I’m gonna say it………… Elvis Presley, completely overrated, pretty much stole everything from Chuck Berry and other black rock’n'roll musicians at the time who weren’t getting there name cos of their colour
December 13th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Bucslim: I think you’re probably right there — though I recall somebody attributing it to Lennon once, later I also heard it was Keith. Oh well.
And now, I think, my last word about Mr. Shoes. Randall’s right: compare the comparative subliteracy of his earlier posts with that suddenly at least half-coherent and correctly spelled “essay,” probably from some fifth-rate lad-mag somewhere, and it’s obvious this kid’s spouting off anything BUT original thought. And you’re giving him too much credit when you put him at age seventeen. I think he’s a twelve-year-old whose mommy doesn’t know what he’s up to on the family computer. He’s an immature fraud, and nothing to be upset about.
Truth doesn’t hurt, you little pipsqueak. It’s horseshit that aggravates.
December 13th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Wait just seen what dick shoes wrote, retard, im 18 and had to find out the beatles music myself, have you even heard A Day in the Life? Not many would disagree with me when i say people will look back at this time many years from now and rate the beatles in the same way we rate classical composers like mozart and beethoven.
Their pop music was really the commercial side of it, they wrote many innovative, culturally defining songs [All You Need is Love] and pretty much gave the music industry what it is today.
BTW favorite is ringo
December 13th, 2007 at 6:11 pm
as a person who studies music. It is a shit in the face to hear people defend this shit smear of a music. You are the same queens who defend rap music and declare it is poetic.
December 13th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
As a person of intelligence, it’s time for me to ignore you.
December 13th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
here’s some ammo boys, the link to dick’s “original thought”.
http://rtone.wordpress.com/2006/11/25/why-the-beatles-were-bad/
dick, welcome to the site. you don’t have to make the best argument to be heard here. just express how you feel. plagarism makes you look disrespectful, petty and gives us all pause to listen to you any further.
you have as much right as anyone else to express how you feel, just do it honorably.
December 13th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
QUOTE: JMurf
Not many would disagree with me when i say people will look back at this time many years from now and rate the beatles in the same way we rate classical composers like mozart and beethoven.
congrats. Mozart and “beethoven” just shit their fucking pants and are going to haunt your family forever for even thinking about comparing the beatles to the genius of Mozart.
i give you, according to JMurf, the eqiv. of Mozart.
Leave my kitten alone
By: The Beatles
You better leave my kitten all alone,
You better leave my kitten all alone.
But I told you big fat bulldog,
You better leave her alone.
You better leave my kitten all alone,
You better leave my kitten all alone.
This dog is gonna get you,
If you don’t leave her alone.
Well Mr.Dog I’m gonna hit you
On the top of your head.
That child is gonna miss you,
[ Lyrics found at http://www.mp3lyrics.org/s9m ]
You gonna wish that you were dead.
If you don’t leave my kitten all alone.
Well I told you big fat bulldog,
You better leave her alone.
Well Mr.Dog I’m gonna hit you,
On the top of your head.
That girl is gonna miss you,
You gonna wish that you were dead.
If you don’t leave my kitten all alone, oh yeah.
Well I told you, big fat bulldog,
You better leave her alone.
Hey hey you better leave, you better leave,
You better leave, yeah you better leave,
You better leave, oh you got to leave…
if you can defend these lyrics with the equally shitty 3 chords played over and over and ringo playing off time about 6 times over the course of the song. Then i pity your life
December 13th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
great website i found
http://www.areddy.net/beatles_suck/
December 13th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
I have to admit, as a contrarian and a Stones fan, despite Dick Shoes’ poor syntax and plagiarism, I really enjoy someone taking a shot at the Beatles.
Although I admit they deserve their position on this list.
December 14th, 2007 at 6:28 am
Very disappointed to not see Frank Zappa there.
December 14th, 2007 at 8:07 am
146 Dick Shoes: Daron Malakian of System of a Down says the Beatles are one of his favourite bands and biggest influences.
December 14th, 2007 at 9:07 am
I really don’t have time for this little pinhead, so if someone else wants to step in, feel free.
Just a few quick points, “dick.”
A) I notice you didn’t answer my last post that was directed at you. Clearly this is because you *have no answer.*
B) An artistically successful rock and roll song is much more than the sum of its parts, and that goes for its lyrics. Any idiot should know this just from *listening* to rock and roll, but obviously this simple fact has escaped you. You could yank out ANY artist’s lyrics and 9 times out of 10 they’ll fall flat without the melody and harmony that accompanies them. The lyrics of very, very few songs can stand on their own. Now, having said that, it next has to be pointed out to you (why I don’t know) that the Rolling Stones wrote a lot of crap lyrics too, kid. A LOT. As did the Who, and the Kinks, and so on and so on. But then….
C) You make the mistake of employing the old, shallow and transparent trick of trying to support your argument by grabbing for one of the weakest set of lyrics Paul McCartney ever wrote (and indeed, he wrote his share of weak lyrics… but he also wrote “Hey Jude”). Nice try, but when you play with grownups, you have to have better tricks up your sleeve. At any rate, your argument is spurious; nobody says the Beatles didn’t produce some clunkers, and anyway, as I noted above–lyrics on their own mean next to nothing.
D) Why all the freakin’ anger and vitriol about this? Why is this such a crusade for you? Find something more constructive to do with your time. And more sensible. Because you come off like one of those guys who claim we never went to the moon.
Oh, and one last thing—I get the feeling you’re one of these buttheads who think “musicianship” is vital in rock and roll. It isn’t, junior. But you’d know this if you’d turn off your seething desire for attention and your anger for the Beatles (!) and just kick back and enjoy life. Christ.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:19 am
I don’t know why I’m still doing this, but
Dick: I don’t defend rap music; not in the slightest. First of all, to me the term is an oxymoron, because most of the time the “music” component is a synthesizer program, or samplings of other people’s music. To me, rap is spoken-word performance. Some of it is poetic, and a lot of it is inexcusable garbage; to me it’s hilarious that 70% of the market for gangsta rap is suburban white kids ages 12-19. But I won’t take away from Grandmaster Flash, Run DMC or even Tupac; they contributed something. As did the Beatles.
What’s really going on here is a culture war: you’re part of a generation that’s out to dis the lads because you disrespect Boomers — perhaps as in your parents. You don’t know the whole cultural scene of the 60s that a lot of us commenters grew up in. We grew up with Vietnam and bloody corpses on the tube at the dinner hour; I *can* tell you exactly where I was when I heard President Kennedy was shot; I followed what was going on at Woodstock and wished I’d had the guts to try to hitchhike there (I was eleven at the time). I even remember the Cuban missile crisis; picture a five-year-old kid absorbing the idea that any second he could be snuffed out in a nuclear fireball. The winter of Kennedy’s assassination, the whole world went black for everybody. One of the things that came along just in time to relieve that blackness and put a little fun and hope back in people’s lives was the Beatles, and the storm of acts (like the Stones) that came through the floodgates the Beatles opened. John and Paul even wrote songs for the Stones; the reverse never occurred, because the Stones weren’t really good writers.
The Beatles actually lasted from 1961 (the Munich years) to 1969. They were the first to experience being real superstars; even Sinatra, Marilyn and Elvis weren’t mobbed as wildly as the boys were. They couldn’t go out anywhere; every visit to every city was a mad dash from hotel entrance to limo, limo to stage door, and so on. John makes an offhand remark about the band being more popular than Jesus, and all of a sudden Beatles records are being burned all across the Bible Belt, while Americans with brains shook their heads and laughed. (And I know you’re going to say that a million burned Beatles records is an improvement, Dick, and I really don’t care.) They became trendsetters without even trying; the Beach Boys even had Paul as a guest artist on “Pet Sounds.”
I could go on and on here. I know I’m not going to convert you or open your mind; I think it would take a jackhammer to accomplish the latter. And I’m going to follow Bucslim’s lead and delete you from my reality. I like the people who speak here, almost all of them. I don’t need you. You no longer exist.
December 14th, 2007 at 10:48 am
Dick:
The Beatles wrote hundreds of songs in commercial career, yes that song is shit, for fuck sake westlife wouldn’t sing it, but they have a huge quantity and quality of magnificent songs. Your argument is like basing the quality of a soil in field by picking up a lump of shit in a hedge nearby.
And YES people WILL look back many years from now and rate them as highly as we today rate the Classical composers.
You said you studied music? My hole you did. The Beatles are practically compulsory learning for everyone studying music appreciation
By the way I don’t rate rap, it’s like every second line is getting further away from the meaning of a song, it’s only the chorus that realigns it. But I do acknowledge it’s influence even if it is shit
December 14th, 2007 at 10:52 am
Martin L : Don’t agree with you saying the stones are bad writers, they are fantastic writers, it was only the quality of music during that era that might make it seem different. If they broke through into todays music market they’d be seen as a revelation
December 14th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
I saw Led Zeppelin in London Monday night. Just wanted to put that out there.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
JMurf: Maybe. Their music just didn’t speak to me the way the Beatles’ did. And really my point was that the Beatles wrote for the Stones on more than one occasion, but the reverse never occurred, to my knowledge. And I don’t think Mick and Keith would have tried to stretch stylistically the way they did without John and Paul challenging them; there was a rivalry there that benefited both bands, and for a while kept the publicity machines for both revved up. Maybe I’ll retract my downgrade of the Stones’ writing, though. Don’t know if they’d be seen as a revelation if they broke today, but that’s such a hypothetical proposition; any outcome you or I came up with would be heavily tinted by our different personal lenses, you know? They were highly influential — I won’t try to take that away from them.
December 14th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
TMo, you lucky lucky bastage
December 14th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Where is Metallica?!?!? Also Hendrix, Clapton, and Bob Marley. And I couldn’t help but notice that there are no country musicians on this list.
December 14th, 2007 at 4:47 pm
Marin L:
Yeah I agree, it really comes down to your own preferences. I don’t like Black Sabbath, but I note their influence
December 14th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
Sometimes I guess it has to depend on what you like or what you know. These music lists and subsequent arguments turn into “Band I Like is better than Band you like” or “I know more about music than you.”
If you like or play Metal, Black Sabbath is, really, one of the most influential. Love them or hate them, if you’re hearing a tuned-down power chord that has that ‘dark’ sound, Sabbath was there before you, and is probably the reason your favorite band is doing it.
The Smiths are very influential, but then again, so are The Cure. Bob Dylan changed the way songs were written. I don’t know that KISS has really inspired that many people musically, but they did set a benchmark for extreme showmanship. (Which was inspired by Alice Cooper. It’s an endless web!)
–>insert band name here
December 14th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Um, only half of my comment showed up.
I’m not writing it again, which is unfortunate for you guys to be left with only half of my brilliance.
I did say that Jamie ought to stick to religion and politics because the music lists tend to really piss people off.
December 15th, 2007 at 1:50 am
Um, David Bowie??? Moby declared him as the most in fluential musician of all-time (in his opinion of course).
Velvet Underground?
Queen were an amazing band, but they weren’t really influential.
December 15th, 2007 at 9:39 am
JMurf:
What did John and Paul write for the Stones??? I didn’t know that…
December 15th, 2007 at 10:12 am
I Wanna Hold Your Hand is a Lennon/McCartney song I think?
December 21st, 2007 at 7:34 am
No one ever mentions Hank Williams. The man was awesome and highly influential on Elvis, Dylan
and Johnny Cash as well as a host of others. Also Woody Guthrie, James Brown, Public Enemy, Miles Davis… I don’t quite see the point of including musicians from sub genres of rock and roll and all from a similar era. I don’t want to diss a band as great as the Stones, but without them a band like the Kinks would be held in the same awe as the Stones are held today. From that I would say it was really the Beatles who were the influential band. Oh and the Beatles gave the Rolling Stones I wanna be your man, which was the Stones first top 20 hit.
December 21st, 2007 at 7:38 am
Also a highly influential band that never gets mentioned because they are more influential in Eastern Europe is Depeche Mode.
December 21st, 2007 at 9:37 am
Ahhh Depeche Mode… I think they are not high considered as influential because most of their music and the music of those they influence is goth/industrial/ebm/techno/dark wave/noize/new age/synth etc,etc,etc.
which, by the way, is the kind of music I listen to and I love Depeche Mode. They are awesome
December 21st, 2007 at 2:24 pm
I did mention Hank Williams Sr. earlier. He’s imfluenced not only country, but blues and Rock and Roll.
Also Bill Monroe. The man invented a whole genre of music for goodness sakes.
December 21st, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Jeeze, a bit ‘open’ this thread, isn’t it? We’re not talking about just rock musicians. How about whoever thought up the European 4/4 military snare beat? Strict, precision timekeeping yet allowing for ‘funky’ human movement, that’s a fundamental development.
December 27th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
The Pixies should be on that list. They influenced the whole grunge/alt scene then broke up before they had a chance to capitalize on their stuff.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
I think this list is wrong according to the rolling stone magazine and the time magazine one of the most influencian artist is ARETHA FRANKLIN, JAMES BROWN AND LITTLE RICHARd in the top 10.
January 10th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
In 2004, Rolling Stone Magazine ranked her #9 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. To give perspective to this honor, only the Beatles, Bob Dylan, Elvis Presley, the Rolling Stones, Chuck Berry, Jimi Hendrix, James Brown, and Little Richard finished ahead of her on this list. Ray Charles finished at number ten, right behind Franklin.
Franklin has had a total of eighteen #1 R&B singles – a record unsurpassed by any other female recording act – and a total of seventeen top ten singles on the Billboard Hot 100. Two of them became #1 hit songs on the Billboard Hot 100 as well, “Respect” in the 1960s and her 1980s duet with George Michael, “I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me)”.
January 24th, 2008 at 9:15 am
no moody blues,smokey robinson, metallica, beastie boys, areosmith, depeche mode, the cure, and i think pearl jam was more influential than nirvana was and weres abba?
January 24th, 2008 at 9:16 am
also wheres ritchie valens? the first latino top seller
February 12th, 2008 at 11:47 am
i LOVE that queen is on this list, but i notice that there’s mainly rock ‘n’ roll bands, and not many other artists from different musical genres or nationalities. what about claude francois? and robert johnson – many mention his as their biggest infulence when it comes to playing guitar.
February 20th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Iggy Pop
March 7th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
it’s been said that ‘elvis freed our bodies, but dylan freed our minds’ – pop music wasn’t the same after dylan. listen to lyrics before and after he came along. i remember paul
mc cartney saying that even the beatles wanted to be dylan. and later on george harrison said a funny thing: ‘dylan makes shakespeare look like billy joel’.
March 15th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
Glad this list is so controversial. Where do we start this list and where do we finish. Beatles yes should be number one for modern rock music bar none but music was around for centuries before the Beatles were born. I would start with Beethoven and Brahms maybe some russian composers thrown in for good measure. We are still listening to that music from 200 years ago.
All music has progressed over the centuries to what we have now. I think you should break it down into sub categories. Where are all the blues musicians that influenced the english rock scene……. A list like this without Muddy Waters is a travesty. Nirvana wouldn’t make my top 100 influential artists but that is just my opinion. this is a great start to go into bands who were influential to individual musicians. Jimmy Hendrix where does he fit in the master of effects on the guitar. robert johnson the king of the blues. This list could go on and on. anyhow i am just on a rant because i am bored and i love music.
March 22nd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
It is absolutely disgraceful Bob Marley is not in this. I dont usually get this pissed but this list is way too rock biased. No jazz innovators. Fuck man make another list that lives up to its title. Who is with me?
March 28th, 2008 at 2:25 am
The Ramones need to be on this list.
March 29th, 2008 at 1:56 am
And, as mentioned already, The Velvet Underground should make the list.
April 27th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
One Name…the Man who started it all…
ROBERT JOHNSON!….
May 1st, 2008 at 8:59 am
You include KISS and leave off Hank Williams? Are you tarded? Where’s Buddy Holly? Who do you think the Beatles were ripping off? No Beach Boys? No Hendrix? But Nirvana makes the list… Sorry, you missed the boat on this list. I love your site, though.
May 4th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
WHERE THE FUCK IS IGGY POP & THE STOOGES. They started punk rock.
May 8th, 2008 at 12:39 am
Mick Jagger has OBVIOUSLY proved to successfully stand the test of time with the Rolling Stones…A superb organizational buisnessman and singer/composer/lyracist.
Aerosmith needs a notation here as well.
The Beatles were and continue to be recognized as the “World’s music”..Yesterday – the most copied song on Earth.
All of music is an excellent opiate of the masses.
To say one tops another is sophomoric & naieve… It just IS.
May 10th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
You should include Judas Priest; they basically revived Heavy Metal when it was dying out and Punk had taken over.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:02 am
Love, love, love the Beatles, but Elvis should definitely be number 1 in my opinion. I don’t think the Beatles would have had the success that they did without Elvis paving the way for mainstream rock and roll. He may not have been and innovator because he had his own influences, but no one can disagree that he opened the door to modern rock. Though I personally would rather listen to the Beatles anyday, Elvis should be the top spot.
May 28th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
i dont recall hearing a single referance to metallica but i do agree with Alok that aerosmith should be in there because james hetfield from metallica had cited that aerosmith was his biggest musical influence so without them there would be noi metallica and there would be no judas priest or about 70 metal or rock groups around also they fucking influenced world fucking culture including music from previously ’set in stone’ groups such as kiss and i dont know why they are even in there in the first place maybe exept for the fact that their style of rock spawned punk rock so shut up haters
May 28th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
also my list is
1.beatles
2.rolling stones
3.queen
4.aerosmith(or metallica not black sabbath)
5.kiss
6.robert johnsen
7.muddy waters(continuing of robert johnsen)
8.velvet underground
9.nirvana
10.van halen
11.beach boys
12.ramones(again a continuation)
13.the supremes
14.johney cash
i dont kno about the other watever you want to put in there and this list is only about rock people
June 10th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
1) It is totally sacrilege to list Pink Floyd above Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin.
2) What about Kraftwerk?
June 26th, 2008 at 7:24 am
wat da fuck?? wherez THE DOORS?… JIMMY?
July 17th, 2008 at 8:27 am
Jimi Hendrix?
July 23rd, 2008 at 12:53 pm
Where the HELL is Jimi Hendrix??!?!!?
And KISS before Zeppelin?!?!?
What the hell is wrong with you?!
July 26th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
WHat the fuck ?
No Dave mustaine no Slayer no early (83-90) Metallica???
Your list sux ass hard
August 14th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
What??? No MC Hammer, New Kids on the Block, or Bobby Brown :p
August 15th, 2008 at 2:39 am
“fifteen of the most influential musicians of all time.”
Have you ever heard of Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix, Mozart, Haydn, Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Steve Reich, Ravi Shankar …
Maybe you should listen for some music before trying making such stupid list, little padawan.
August 22nd, 2008 at 7:23 am
KISS. what the fuck?
try N.W.A!
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:44 pm
I have a vast music list, most of them on yours I agree with,Kiss Isn’t on mine whatsoever,I am amazed at their record sales.I think you should extend it to 20 bands.The doors gotta be there-Beach boys-supremes-4 seasons-temptations-hendrix.what about blind melon chitlin?
September 5th, 2008 at 10:44 am
yeah wtf kiss is on here and yet joy division is not.
that’s messed up.
October 9th, 2008 at 11:28 am
michael jackson??
October 9th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
I agree with most KISS doesnt need to be so high, second JIMI! wHERE IS HE! and all of his influences.
Now, the most famous guitarists from texas, You missed the Eric Johnsons, the George Thourogoods and last but not least Stevie Ray Vaughn, and they could have all been placed under one strand!
And to whoever said the hip/hop rap eras,I agree with you, but id have to see an arguement to decide on where to put them.
Now, every arguement on here is a liable one, but they just need to be proved!
October 9th, 2008 at 6:27 pm
and at mkg, You cant have a list without Black Sabbath, they started the rock era, exception of the beatles
October 18th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Nobody has influenced more musicians than Neil Young. He should be way up on that list. Isn’t he the Godfather of Grunge? Who makes up these lists anyway?
November 9th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Wow, sorry but BAD list. I don’t even know what to say.
November 10th, 2008 at 11:32 am
What about Bob Marley?
November 14th, 2008 at 4:51 am
My reply is to “155. JMurf” Who posted :- “I’m gonna say it………… Elvis Presley, completely overrated, pretty much stole everything from Chuck Berry and other black rock’n'roll musicians at the time who weren’t getting there name cos of their colour”
JMurf, you don’t know your history, or you just make your own knowledge.
First record of Chuck berry called “Maybellene” had recorded+released in july 1955.. Where elvis had released following songs before:-
That’s All Right
Blue Moon of Kentucky
Good Rockin’ Tonight
I Don’t Care If the Sun Don’t Shine
Milk Cow Blues Boogie
You’re a Heartbreaker
Baby Let’s Play House
I’m Left, You’re Right, She’s Gone
Mystery Train
You said he stolen from black, like others say, than listen:-
“Some people say Elvis stole black music. Those people are fools, Elvis gave black people a voice.” – James Brown.
Elvis is inventor of rock n roll, also read history of rock.
Elvis is more influential than these all!
November 16th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Bob Marley? I think he should be there. Bob, anyone?
November 29th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
“Hey, dude. Who, was, like, a really influential band?”
“Um… I dunno. The Replacements once covered Kiss.”
“Good… good… And a bunch of chicks at my school wear those Grateful Dead T-shirts with teddy bears on them, so I think they’re, like, really important.”
“Dude! You gotta throw on the Zep and the Floyd!!!! I mean, as long as we’re talking about t-shirts.”
“I agree. And no band influenced the music I play in my bedroom in my underpants as much as Nirvana. So they’re going on there.”
“Well… ok, but I think we should think about the really important bands that we’ve never actually listened to. Like Bob Dylan.”
“Oh, oh yeah. They say that, like, Bob Dylan is responsible for everything we know about modern song-writing. Like, he’s the most influential musician in history or something.”
“True, but he’s not, like, Black Sabbath influential.”
“Good point. Put him 11th. Iron Man is a kick-ass song.”
“I think the bowl’s cashed.”
“Ok. Take a resin hit and then we’ll pack another one.”
“Anyway… I guess we should just forget about all the bands that influenced the bands we have on here, like Chuck Berry, Woody Guthrie, the Velvet Underground, Pixies, and the Stooges, because I’ve never seen a t-shirt with any of them on it.”
“Yeah. And even though R.E.M. single-handedly invented alternative rock, I heard their singer is gay.”
“Ew! One gay singer is enough for this list, thank you very much!!!!”
“I know! If I wanted this list to be gay, I would put on (snicker) Jazz and Classical music!”
“OMG! That stuff is soooooooo lame!!!! Like, Charlie Parker, who condensed virtuoso playing into melodic brilliance? Miles Davis, who invented tonal jazz, and by extension post-bop? John Coltrane, the original avant-garde player? Dave Brubeck, who popularized unusual time signatures? Thelonious Monk, who combined atonality and beauty seamlessly?”
“Gay, Gay, Gay, Gay, Gay!!!!!! And I would make fun of classical composers, but the only one I know of is Mozart, and I don’t like making fun of deaf people.”
“Represent, dawg.”
“Also, bands like Sonic Youth, Radiohead, and Pavement have influenced countless young musicians. They’ve all started musical movements that are blending together and shooting off into new creative territory…”
“But they’re so WEIRD!!!!”
“Dude, I was just about to say that!!!! Hella ballin’!”
“Um… okay. I have everything but the bottom two. Who are the best modern rock bands?”
“Um… the White Stripes and Oasis.”
“Fo’ sho’!!!! And who can we thank for those bands?”
“The Rollingstones and the Beatles.”
“Those are the top two.”
“I dunno… man. Where’s Lil Wayne?”
“Lil Wayne is number one in the list in my heart, Steve.”
“That’s beautiful, dude. Beautiful.”
November 30th, 2008 at 5:11 am
bob marley…
December 2nd, 2008 at 7:05 pm
What? No Chuck Berry?
January 26th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
holy hell, you did NOT just group together this sad little ‘emo’ stereotype with Nirvana…
February 10th, 2009 at 2:48 am
Zeppelin influenced music more than you could imagine, the recording techniques, the guitar sound, the vocals (not very original lyrics for the most part though :p), the live shows. So I think that they should be higher. I also think the list is hypocritical, fair enough someone who really “created” genre should go ahead of someone who “merely” expanded on it (like Led Zeppelin or um, the BEATLES – please take note that they didn’t CREATE pop music or anything along those lines). But by that definition, Pink Floyd doesn’t deserve their spot, ELP were making prog albums before them. Nor does Nirvana, I think The Melvins more than anyone should be credited with the birth of grunge and the Seatle Sound in general. And let’s not even get started on why Black Sabbath should be further up the list. Not to mention, no Robert Johnson, are you racist? Or do you just have your head too far up the Beatles’ arses to see some real musical influence?
I could go on and dispute every band on that list but I think I sound like enough of a dick already. But just let it be noted that I think this list either needs to be renamed or officially noted as one of the worst conceived lists on this otherwise phonemenal site.
February 22nd, 2009 at 6:17 am
KiSS are definitely not that influential. Led Zeppelin are way more influential.
February 28th, 2009 at 2:43 am
Razor745: Maybe KISS weren’t that influential musically, but have you seen all these metal bands wearing masks and corpse paint since the late 80’s? All because of KISS…
March 1st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
where is THE DOORS?
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 am
LSD.chaos: 1/4 Dead….
Oh burned Jim Morrison…. Ok, that was bad I’ll admit it. But why do you think that they deserve a spot on the Top 15 Influential Musicians??? They weren’t that influential, in, well, anyway at all that I can think of as a guitarist. Correct me if I’m wrong…
March 10th, 2009 at 3:52 am
There are a few things which confuse me about this list (apart from that I hate these kind of lists).
The concept is quite unclear.
What do you mean by “musician”? Composer or performer (or both)? 20th century, non-orchestral, rock music only? Or pop too?
What do you mean by “influential”? On what? Culture? Art? (Rock-)Music? (certain aspects of)performance?
If you say on music in general (and definitely NOT on performance), and if you say a musician has to be a composer, and by influence you mean being revolutionary in musical sense (bring in something new, that affects other musicians): half of this list is irrelevant. Elvis was not a composer, Queen was not revolutionary in its genre (one of the best, but not revolutionary), same for Kiss, etc.
I would like to add: the “lack” of the black musicians from this list is so obvious, it hurts. Putting in the Supremes doesn’t make it better, but worse. Oh well, I love them, but where is the supremes in comaprison to JAMES BROWN in (musical) influence? He had an influence even on the No1 Beatles, not to mention George Clinton, or on the Billie Jean-composer Michael jackson (who BTW also has a right to be on this list) or Prince.
(If you want to add a Motown act, then add Marvin gaye or Stevie Wonder, or even better, the composers behind many Motown acts: the Holland-Dozier-Holland.)
The list is more about influential rock performers (- but then where the heck is Jimmi Hendrix???) w/ 2 funny exceptions.
March 11th, 2009 at 1:30 am
232. vir : You preach for racial equality on this list and then you don’t mention Robert Johnson…. C’mon, give some credit to your argument. Fair enough the title of this list is a bit off, but you didn’t mention any Jazz or Classical musicians. You want to expand this beyond Rock maybe recommend some people so that if Jamie does look at this he has some people to check out.
But in saying that, I absolutely despise this list as well – different reasons though. I get the feeling that whoever wrote it really likes the Beatles and – almost as if inherently – hates Zeppelin. With the acts that are in front of them on this list there is just no excuse for not bumping them up, KISS, The Stones, Floyd? What the hell was he/she thinking? They’re all good, but they don’t even get close to Zeppelin on an scale of influence…
March 20th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Mark, i’m correcting you:
how many musicians do you know (besides kurt cobaine) combined dementd poetry and a voice that sounded like broken vocal chords and make it sound that good. To me the doors gave kurt cobaine a story to live.
March 20th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
234. LSD.chaos : They didn’t influence Kurt at all, I respect Morrison and I like his music but it’s just not that influential. Look at The Melvins or The Pixies if you want to see what influenced Kurt, don’t even try and claim that it was the Doors, that’s just embarrasing.
March 21st, 2009 at 2:46 am
wtf?
jimmy hendrix
all bands in the world that have a tiny piece os lead guitars in their music have been inspired by him
March 21st, 2009 at 8:53 am
How on Earth could you leave out Frank Zappa?
March 21st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Mark, i see your point kind of
March 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
YOU RETARDS! Bob Dylan is the most influential and the Beatles #2, Dylan not only influenced music he influenced society like the Civil Rights movement and sadly the Hippie Movement, which he didn’t agree with. He was so influential “Blowin’ In the Wind” was made into a Hymn. That is influence.
March 27th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Nirvana…..wtf
Bob Dylan should be number one
American music would be so differet if he didn’t plug in
April 1st, 2009 at 1:55 pm
It says “all time.” Where is Mr. Beethoven?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 am
What no clash!!!!
Far better and more influential then the pistols.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 am
242. thinjim : Better music, yes. Better musicians, definitely. More influential, not a chance my friend. Punk was the attitude, not the skill or even the sound to an extent. I prefer The Clash, but The Pistols were much more influential.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Nirvana need to be number 15, if any. They came at the very end of music and are one of the three things that contributed to musics death in 1991. Since they were at the very end, they influenced nothing, unless you consider the stuff after 1991 music, which i of course dont, i think it is all pop emo myspace ipod screaming noisy boring dull wall of sound bullshit, but thats not me talking, thats unfortunate fact. Music Died in 1991, Nirvana are a third responsible. ROBERT JOHNSON SHOULD BE ON THE LIST. AND AS FOR ZEPPELIN AND SABBATH, PICK ONE, BOTH ON THE LIST IS REDUNDENT. KISS DIDNT DO ANYTHING, RAMONES INSTEAD OF SEX PISTOLS, OR MORE TO THE POINT, VELVET UNDERGROUND INSTEAD OF THE SEX PISTOLS. personal note i would like rolling stones and neil young on, but dylan and beatles/zeppelin cover that influence enough. and Bob Dylan numba 1, Elvis numba 2, Beatles numba 3
April 2nd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
EXTREMELY biased towards rock. did i miss something or was every other genre excluded?
April 6th, 2009 at 2:00 am
No way in hell should Nirvana be number three on this list. They may be influential NOW, but they didn’t actually influence anybody back in the 90’s. I’ve been sick and tired of Cobain’s deification since his death for a LONG time, and everyday it just seems to get worse. It started with the dirty-looking kids in jr. high/high school, and continues now with lists on the internet naming “influential artists” and “great albums”. Nirvana just happened to be the first in a long line of grunge bands, and are far outshined by contemporaries Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and Stone Temple Pilots. Where are all of their influential nods? Why the fuck did they get the shaft? Is it because none of their lead singers committed suicide at the height of their genre’s popularity? Total bullshit.
Equating Nirvana with influential bands(based on their own genre) would be like saying that Korn is a highly influential band. It may be in it’s own right, but when it only influences the shitty music it popularized, it’s hard to take the suggestion seriously. I agree with the Beatles, the Stones, and Presley. But Nirvana is FAR FAR less influential than Elvis, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, and Bob Dylan. Whoever wrote this list really needs to read up on the definition of “influential”.
Johnny Cash
Willie Nelson
Jimi Hendrix
Buddy Guy
Eric Clapton
Chuck Berry?
April 6th, 2009 at 2:02 am
Michael Jackson also definitely belongs on this list.
Hell, Prince or even Beck deserve to be on this list more-so than Nirvana or Kiss.
And what about Brian Wilson/the Beach Boys?
April 12th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
If you want a band who’s production quality changed the way albums are recorded and engineered and had a profound affect on stadium rock you need to add Boston to the list. And where’s Elvis, for God’s sake? I think Chicago was unique with their horn section and E.L.O. with their string section. I totally agree with KISS! Nobody did what they did. You may not like them but they were definitely different. I think Led Zeppelin should be #2 on the list and the Rolling Stones booted off the list. The Stones were a clone of the Beatles but nowhere near as talented or imaginative! And where’s Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin? Buddy Holly, anyone? As much as I can’t stand Michael Jackson, I think he needs to be on this list. I’d also argue that Elton John should be on here as well. Just a few thoughts. Can’t believe The Beach Boys aren’t included or The Doors!
April 12th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Sorry, forgot Elvis was on the list. It’s been a long day and I’m getting pretty drunk. My bad!
April 12th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
To Dick Shoes-I just read the comments and I feel I need to comment back to Dick Shoes. I’ll try not to make any personal attacks but what you wrote is the biggest line of bullshit I have ever read! You obviously do not like the Beatles. That’s fine. You have a right to your opinion. But to make the claim that the Beatles were bad, lacked talent and were nothing more than a pre-packaged commercialized pop band is ludicrous! The Beatles were absolute geniuses. Do you have any idea how many hit songs they wrote? Not only did they put out at least one album a year, they also wrote music for the movies they were in. You called their music a mess because it had changed so much over the years. Changing their style of writing shows how talented they were. The Grammys created new awards because of the Beatles. You cite how much you like the Stones. You do realize that the great Mick Jagger sat at the feet of the Beatles as they recorded All You Need Is Love live on national television, right? The Stones asked the Beatles to write songs for them. You mention that Beatles were cartoons, hair styles etc.. Why do you think that is? That’s because they were so popular that the market wanted to cash in on them. But you fail to mention that the Beatles were also sold out stadiums, record setting tours, top ten songs in practically every month between ‘64 and ‘70, mind blowing television appearances, movies, trend setting clothes etc… I think you need to read the bios of pop and rock groups from the early ’60’s well into the ’90’s and read where the Beatles influenced them! The lyrics you quote are from a weak song. I notice you didn’t quote Let It Be or Yesterday or Hey Jude. Why is that? I’ll be the first to admit that the Beatles had some rather odd lyrics but remember how high the Beatles were getting and how many drugs they were doing. Strawberry Fields Forever and I Am The Walrus are clearly drug induced but very good songs. Every musician who laid down background horn tracks or string arrangements walked away from the studio in amazement of the Beatles’ talent. The Beatles as solo acts also put up amazing numbers. Remember, for every Juniors Farm there was a Baby I’m Amazed. And for every I’m A Dark Horse there was a Give Me Life. And for every She’s Sixteen there was a Photograph. The Beatles were and still area lot more talented than what you want to give them credit for!! I think what you have is very simple to explain – YOU ARE JEALOUS THAT THE STONES WILL NEVER, AND I MEAN NEVER, ACCOMPLISH IN 50 YEARS WHAT THE BEATLES ACCOMPLISHED IN 8 SHORT YEARS!!! I feel sorry for you because you are one of just a few people who have ever lived that feel the way you do about the Beatles. Bottom line – You have a right to your opinion but you have made a total ass of yourself in front of the whole world!! And by the way – LET IT BE!!!
April 12th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
249. Rocktoy79 – “I’m getting pretty drunk.”
and long long comment 250
You’re awfully wordy when you’re drunk. CWI – Commenting while intoxicated. ain’t it great?
Unlike the rest of us, you can still manage to maintain enough lucidity to recall specific musical trivia.
April 14th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I was extremely disappointed with Bob Dylan’s low ranking on this list. I could easily see him as number one. Personal music tastes aside, no one can deny that Bob Dylan’s influence can be seen well into today’s society. Bob Dylan captured the voice of a generation and has been listed as an influence by everyone from Bruce Springsteen to Jimmy Carter. He was not only a singer/songwriter, he was a poet. He transcended the boundaries of folk, rock, and country music and more often than not combined them into tantalizing combinations. Paul McCartney has even been quoted listing him as an important influence, and it makes no sense to me that the “most influential musicians” would name him as an INFLUENCE, yet he sits far behind them in eleventh place. His song, “Like A Rolling Stone” is listed as number one in Rolling Stone Magazine’s 500 greatest songs of all time, and he is among Time Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People of the Century. I could make my case for hours on end, but it’s late, and I plan to lay on my big brass bed.
And yes, Woody Guthrie was Bob Dylan’s biggest influence. He visited him in the hospital and was Dylan’s reason for moving to Greenwich Village.
And also yes, Bob Dylan gave the Beatles marijuana.
April 17th, 2009 at 10:36 am
David Bowie? Jimi Hendrix? Maybe not on this list in perticular but atleast in consideration right? Their is more I could mention but is there really a limit of people who are influentail and what exactly does it take to be influentail……. I know the dictionaty deff. for inflentaial but that isn’t the point I’m trying to make. Also I should have replaced Jimi Hendrix with Nine Inch Nails (Trent Reznor). I think you have to do something music meaningful to be “influentail”. Some of the them on the list just arn’t what I would consider influentail.
April 18th, 2009 at 2:57 am
244. JesusChrist : Lol, how is having Zeppelin and Sabbath here together redundant? Have you ever listened to their music at all? Or did you just read the wiki page and when you saw both were “heavy metal” you decided that maybe you could get away with claiming they are similar? I mean, they’re old sure, but listen to them and give them a bloody chance, Sabbath still rocks harder than a lot of the “metal” of today.
KISS didn’t do anything hey? Ever heard of corpse paint? You seen Mayhem? Slipknot? Don’t be an idiot mate, KISS were great – musically until the disco era and theatrically right up to today.
Ramones instead of The Pistols BAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! You *are* joking right? ’cause that’s the hardest I’ve laughed in a while thanks for that
What’s all this crap about “covering that influence enough”, did you understand what influence is? Look up a definition before you “grace” us with your braindead presence again.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:24 am
246. bearglove : Lols, you call on the author of this list to look up the definition of “influential” and then you put Willie Dixon and Johnny Cash on your list of proposed influential artists, FAIL!
People like you might have fun going off at Nirvana, but you’ve got no reason to. Kurt died because he couldn’t cope with the pressure of fame. If all of these young kids liked The Doors I bet you wouldn’t be complaining – yes, I picked The Doors for a reason. Nirvana were *never* outshined by their contemporaries, or else all the teenagers would be walking around with Soundgarden t-shirts on.
“…would be like saying that Korn is a highly influential band. It may be in it’s own right, but when it only influences the shitty music it popularized…”
Are you mentally challenged, or does your brain just not grasp logic well? If Korn are influential, they are influential *period*, it doesn’t matter whether or not *you* – being only one person – like their music, because there are more than enough people – including yours truly – that do. And don’t say “Yeah, but they’re stupid teenagers, the music is still crap.”, wanna guess what age group the majority of Zeppelin fans were back in the day? All you are is a modern day father of a Zeppelin fan back the 70’s telling his (her?) son that “That Led Zeppelin stuff is crap, now Franky, there’s a man…” Just fuck off with your bullshit arrogant, elitist attitude.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:33 am
To Mark (255)
“Kurt died because he couldn’t cope with the pressure of fame.”
I prefer to think that Kurt couldn’t live with a wife who was jealous of his fame, and a bunch of record promoters that would rather have him hooked on heroine and producing top of the charts product, than off the junk and taking the quiet road to inner peace.
And on that note, I believe the entire fanbase, My household included, helped Kurt to his ultimate demise.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:36 am
248. Rocktoy79 : “…I think Led Zeppelin should be #2 on the list and the Rolling Stones booted off the list. The Stones were a clone of the Beatles but nowhere near as talented or imaginative!…”
Love the first sentence, loathe the second. I LOOOOOVE Zeppelin, to the max. But the Stones are great and are far from Beatles imitators. They’re music was and still is just simple rock and roll. The problem is that with people around like Zeppelin rock fans are used to more. The Stones took a punk-like approach to their rock music, keep it simple. It worked, and their songs are good for what they were initially meant for, just rocking out, having a good time. Most people miss that though, they expect to be wowed by great musicianship and complex song structure. The Stones were great, just as the Beatles were and Zeppelin.
Incidentally, my pick for No.1 is Sabbath, have you heard all the metal around these days? But how much Led Zeppelin sounding stuff do you really hear? To me that’s a matter of degree of influence, you can HEAR Sabbath in everything they influenced. Zeppelin may have influenced more, but you can’t always pick it.
I’ll be back to comment some more here later, but I’m buggered at the present moment so I’ve had it.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:39 am
256. Deziner : I’m pretty sure Kurt even admitted that the fame was what was getting to him. I can’t be bothered sourcing that at the moment though, but if you could be bothered looking you’re more than welcome. Because Grunge was anti-mainstream straight from the outset. When Kurt got himself a deal and he was doing what he loved – writing and playing music – he was happy, until Nevermind. Then the pressure was on, and he was never quite the same again
April 18th, 2009 at 3:48 am
Yeah Mark,(258) You try coming home to a pissed off prima donna, who feels she isn’t getting her due. (Fame can do that.) And his final, successful, bid to the otherside was not his first attempt by a longshot. It was his fame, and constant company of others that held off his success at suicide for as long as it did. On the other hand, he was quite public in his desire to leave heroine behind, especially publicized on the event of his previous suicide attempts. Rehab existed in the 90’s., he had the money and the capability to enroll in a program.
But not of his promoters didn’t feel it was in THEIR best interest.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:53 am
259. Deziner : Can I do that first bit, but do it as a male? If not, it’s all cool, I’ll give almost anything a shot
Maybe his fame delayed his suicide, but it was the root cause no matter which way you spin it.
“…But not [sic] of his promoters didn’t feel it was in THEIR best interest.”
Are you seriously trying to pass off Kurt’s suicide onto someone who’s not Kurt? I see numeroud problems with that, maybe you could name a couple. We’ll take it in turns?
April 18th, 2009 at 4:13 am
No Mark, I’m not trying to pass off Kurt’s final decision on others. Nobody can stop a CLEAR-THINKING suicidal individual from taking that final step.
But in my opinion, a famous artist with unlimited potential might best be served by the folks closest to him, with a time out from the FAME GAME.
If not his bandmates, then at the very least his promoters should be able to see the toll that the price of fame and addiction is taking upon their meal-ticket.
The very nature of Kurt’s addiction removes him from the category of CLEAR thinking individuals. And I know that if I had been in his inner circle, I would have moved heaven and earth until I saw him into a program that could restore his piece of mind and stable thinking.
Did Courtney help him free himself from the drugs and pressure? Did his bandmates? Did his promoters?
Every major entertainer has been able to free themselves of prior public commitments if their health has been involved. If not by themselves, or a family member, or physician, than most definitely by their promoters.
If Kurt’s addiction had not been a toll to his health previous to his suicide, what were those previous suicide attempts. Publicity stunts?
So yes Mark, The ultimate responsible party was Kurt. But was his success at suicide only his fault?
April 18th, 2009 at 4:27 am
261. Deziner : “…a famous artist with unlimited potential might best be served by the folks closest to him…”
Well that was a waste of time. Of course *any* suicidal person is going to be best served by the people closest to them doing what is best for them – which was the next bit of the sentence but it was a bit specific for my point.
“…If not his bandmates, then at the very least his promoters should be able to see the toll that the price of fame and addiction is taking upon their meal-ticket…”
If I ever succeed in my endevours I would expect my bandmates to be there for me more readily than promoters…
“…Every major entertainer has been able to free themselves of prior public commitments if their health has been involved. If not by themselves, or a family member, or physician, than most definitely by their promoters…”
That doesn’t help all of them anyways *cough* Jim Morrison *cough* What?
“…So yes Mark, The ultimate responsible party was Kurt. But was his success at suicide only his fault?”
The blame *must* rest on the person that did it to themselves. I know that when it was crunch time for me a few weeks/months ago, that if I had actually gone through with it I wouldn’t have blamed the girl or my mates or my parents even a little bit – and you don’t know this girl! – I would’ve taken 100% responsibility for what *I* did. I know I wouldn’t have had to live with it, but neither does Kurt. I reckon Kurt wouldn’t even want the blame to be shifted off him. He did write a suicide note, and in that he didn’t express any anger at all, only regret and wistful happiness, in a rather clear-headed manner might I add.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:44 am
Well Duh, Mark. What part of Clear Thinking don’t you get.
A suicide note does not make the world REAL if you are in a drug haze when you write the note and do the deed. If A depressed, addicted, confused individual takes responsibility for their actions in a suicide note–HURRAH!
Unfortunately when a depressed, addicted, confused individual signs a legal and binding agreement like a contract or will, that is not a legal and binding document, because the signer is not considered COMPETENT when they sign such a document.
So, should such an individual be considered COMPETENT when they succeed in suicide. Only in the fact that they were competent at checking out of life. Did they have other options- YES- but they were too incompetent to pursue those options.
On a personal note to you Mark, If your “Crunch-time” was reference to a question of your own suicide, I’m glad you did not follow that path. I have enjoyed our few words back and forth tonight. And I know that these few minutes can’t possibly be the highlite of the things you’ve enjoyed since you’ve chosen life.
“Mabuhay” to you– A Philipine toast to long life.
April 18th, 2009 at 4:56 am
263. Deziner : We can’t speculate on what his state of mind was. But I can tell you that I was insanely depressed, after the fact it seems so stupid that I even considered it – sometimes at least – but at the time it was what I wanted. And whenever I feel down I start kicking myself over not doing it. I’m not saying it would’ve been the correct thing to do, but maybe it could’ve been the more logical choice in the long run. Unfortunately I won’t know that myself for a very long time, with a lot of that spent in discomfort. Kurt would’ve felt the same way. All I can say that I’ve got to back up my assertions are that I’ve been there and I’m guessing, so I won’t be too overzealous with this particular argument – that’s a nice change
“I’m glad you did not follow that path”
At the present moment so am I, but in a hour, who knows. It was however good to converse with you just as you mentioned – even if you are an LV idiot
April 18th, 2009 at 4:57 am
Oh and by the way, you’re right. The highlight of my life since that night – scoring 3 goals at the Pacific Regional Futsal Championships. That was the best Easter Weekend of my life
April 18th, 2009 at 5:03 am
Hey Mark——-I find my 2 thumbs pointing up. And you know you can’t argue with the intelligence of thumbs.
Catch cha later.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:56 am
It’s always interesting to watch ppl rag on Led Zeppelin and try to deny them their due. They were and continue to be held in the highest esteem as being the top influence to the bands that followed them.
All guitar players that followed were just trying to be Page.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:19 am
buddy holly should be here ahead of the grateful dead
April 28th, 2009 at 6:13 am
I fucking knew it that Beatles would be first. Such a cliche…
May 5th, 2009 at 2:20 am
269. Kennoth : Amen, brother. Amen…
May 13th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Hendrix is probably more influential than anyone on this list. He simply changed the electric guitar and was doing things years ahead of his time in the sixties. Jfrater, I know I’m new here and that you probably know a lot about music in general, but i have to disagree with this list dispite agree with most of your other lists. Dylan is easily top 3, and guys Robert Johnson, the Pixies, the Velvet Underground, and Bowie should be on here. But your lists have been amazing me for days now so its good to know you’re actually human.
May 13th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
All of my favorite bands are on here. However, I am surprised the Grateful Dead is on the list. Not sure I would call them influential, but I like their music anyway.
271. TomS: By the way StewWriter wrote this list, not jfrater.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Worst list ever. number 1 is spot on however. also worst comments ever. check yo’ stats.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
also it is now cliche’ to not like the beatles.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
the beatles number
great influencial band
greatest band of all time
June 11th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Stupid fucking list if you dont have Bob Marley and the Wailers. wow
July 2nd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Who did Queen influence?
They were a great entertaining and enjoyable band but I don’t know who they “influenced.”
July 4th, 2009 at 8:04 am
usually i don’t write comments in blogs but this time i had to. thank you for the usefull info you give!
July 4th, 2009 at 8:15 am
@tpicco (277): Queen had a unique music style and used opera in their songs. Freddie could sing opera and I happen to have one on CD that he did. Utterly fantastic!
They also used the audience to fuel the feel of a song. Many artists now do the same because they were amoung the first to do so. They also poured emotion into their songs like no other during that time. Songs like Somebody to Love and We are the Champions. No one at that time could compare. Now we have artists pouring their very soul into a song. I would say the were influential.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:22 am
@oouchan (279): I don’t like arguing with you, but I beg to differ on that POV. Queen, among the first to pour emotions into their songs? Maybe in really popular music – although there’s some early Zeppelin that would probably disagree with you there as well – but I think you discout a lot of earlier blues and jazz musicians there. A lot of emotion goes into that sort of stuff.
But one thing I think we can agree on – like there’s a shortage of them
– is that Queen were influential. My take on it was the use of really layered vocals, aparantly the Bohemian Rhapsody tape was almost transparent in places, was largely accountable. And I think, the subject matter was quite unique for the time. They wrote a song about girls with big asses, who utilizes similar themes today? And a bike race…???
July 4th, 2009 at 9:48 am
@Mark (280): You love to argue with me…don’t kid yourself. It practically a hobby now. hehe –
Let me amend that…they are one of the first rock bands to do so. Not jazz or contemporary. Rock. Zepplin could have had it, but nothing on the scale that Queen took it to. How about every song on a single album? Can’t beat that. Queen was able to take it to a whole new level.
As for song lyrics…yeah. They took those to a whole new level too.
July 8th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
WTF????? WHERE THE HELL IS MICHAEL JACKSON?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
July 14th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Why isn’t Michael Jackson in this list? Im’not his fan or anything, but it’s clear he was and still is very influential. Maybe the most. Queen or Bob D would be the most talented, creative or genius, but speaking of the influence on other artists, you can say Michael J has done an amazing job. So many have tried to do smth that would sound like him!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I agree mostly Led Zep was a great band but not that influential musicly i think. Bob Dylan is the most influential out of anyone or anything. Your just missing Prince and Robert Johnson
July 31st, 2009 at 1:32 am
1. Beatles
2. David Bowie
3. Smiths
4. Michael JAckson
5. Pink Floyd
6. Rolling Stones
July 31st, 2009 at 1:36 am
7. The Cure
8. Pixies
9. Joy Division
July 31st, 2009 at 1:48 am
10. Blur
11. Bob Marley
August 10th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
1. Beatles
2. Dylan
3. Elvis
4. Stones
5. Who
6. Jimi
7. Zep
8. Beach Boys
9. Pink Floyd
10. Kinks
11. Dead
12. Bruce
13. Supremes
14. Doors
15. Janis
August 13th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I think Prince is a genius who writes and play all the instruments by himself. He should be nr 1.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:44 am
I think you should all get a life, go out, meet a girl/guy and move out of your mum and dads basement!
September 4th, 2009 at 10:15 am
1. Ayumi Hamasaki
2. Utada Hikaru
3. Namie Amuro
4. BoA
Yes I mostly listen to Asian music and sadly most of them aren’t famous outside of Asia.
Asian Wedding Hairstyles
September 8th, 2009 at 1:58 am
Elvis, mj, jerry lee lewis, buddy holly, everly brothers, and drifters are the most influential.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Uhhh, WHERE IS MICHAEL JACKSON?
This is INSANE. He is THE MOST INFLUENTIAL pop artist EVER! You must live under a rock not to put him in the Top FIVE!
Otherwise, good list. But you should have had Michael Jackson. He is the KING OF POP.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
where the Hell is Michael Jackson ?!
he’s one of the most influential musicians in history !
and I think the Jackson 5 should be included ..
smokey Robinson is cool : )
and Ray Charles MUST be listed ! he’s the king of R&B
September 30th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
and johnny cash I forgot : )
October 1st, 2009 at 8:08 am
It is quite disappointing that Kraftwerk aren’t there and equally disappointing that barely any of the comments here have mentioned them.
Oh no, they didn’t do much. Apart from of course single-handedly ditching all rock-oriented instruments and making the melodies and beats entirely electronic and influencing italo disco, synthpop, hip-hop, house, detroit techno, electro, trance and post-punk (to name a few) all of which wouldn’t exist had it not been for them as well as stylistically influencing a great number of indie bands. The 6 albums released between 1974 and 1981 made an staggering change which was key to the boom in electronic music in the 1980s (a lot of which was unfortunately poor, some gems though) and which developed in the 1990s and 2000s.
Looks like there’s a lot of prejudice for electronic music which can range from the rather dated, camp Stock, Aitken and Waterman productions to brilliant stuff from the likes of New Order, Massive Attack and Carl Craig. Very versatile.
David Bowie and Genesis should probably be up there too. I also agree with whoever said Abba, who are geniuses in the art of cheesy pop music, which no music snob should deny.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Very cool list. I would alter a few things here and there, but otherwise pretty good! I agree with the idea that many of these guys like Bob Dylan didn’t start a genre. He did make a lot of breakthroughs with the folk genre though!
October 14th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
change the name of this post Top 15 influential rock groups, not musicians.. mj would have to be somewhere on this list!
October 14th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
@Natalie (298): Why?
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October 21st, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Hard to take this list seriously when Kiss is included and Jimi Hendrix is absent.
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I fail to see how Bob Dylan only came in at number 11, he should definitely by in the top 5. I also fail to see how Lou Reed/The Velvet Underground didn’t make the list.
November 26th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
You wouldnt believe how long ive been googling for something like this. Browsed through 9 pages of Yahoo results couldnt find diddly squat. Very first page on Bing. There was this…. Really have to start using it more often!
November 29th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Are you f***ing joking? Do you even understand what influential means? You have omitted some hugely important artists here: Kraftwerk & Robert Johnson for starters. You really need to expand your musical horizons…
November 30th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Michael jackson was way more popular and influential and talented then any of these people
November 30th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
@jon (305): You’ve got to be kidding, right? Way more than the Beatles? Pink Floyd? Wow. He was influential, but not more than these guys.
December 11th, 2009 at 11:22 am
List is incomplete without the Ramones. Malcolm McLaren witnessed the NY scene first hand before heading back to London to ‘create’ the Pistols, every influential British Punk was at the Ramones show in 76 and subsequently formed a band. Style, sounds, subject matter, even song length influenced and still influences Punk bands throughout the world.
Nirvana? They weren’t an influence as much as they were the first ‘grnge’ band to explode from the genre. The Ramones influenced the genre.