When we think of Ancient civilizations we think of togas, chariots and gladiators. What we don’t think about is flame-throwers, eye surgery and other inventions we take for granted. This is a list of things that the ancients had that you think are modern inventions.
10. Cosmetics
Roman women would put metal compounds on their faces in order to enhance their color. Tin-Oxide or Lead-Oxide was used as a paling agent, Arsenic (Though they knew it was poisonous) as a rouge or blush, and charcoal was used as eyeliner. Romans also were the first to use a pocket mirror.
9. Odometer
Although first used effectively by the Greeks in their measurements between cities, the Romans employed a very simple cart odometer that had 4-foot wheels. Each time the wheel completely turned, a pin would engage a cogwheel one notch out of its 400 teeth. Each time said cogwheel turned, the cart traveled one Roman Mile. (Approx 1400 Meters).
8. Flame-thrower
The Ancient Byzantines first used flame-throwers as a naval device, usually to set alight the rigging and sails of an enemy vessel. Although handheld devices were cumbersome and dangerous, naval ones were much more efficient. Working on a simple siphon pump concept, they would be pumped, and the action would pull flammable liquid out of a reservoir tank, forcing it past an open flame, igniting the spray in a lethal barrage of a panic inducing inferno.
7. Medicines
There is much archeological and historical evidence to support the use of complex medications and medical procedures within the ancient world. Honey was used as a topical antiseptic, Honeysuckle often for spleen problems, horsehair for stitches, fine needles for cataract corrective surgery and maggots for wound cleaning (as they eat dead tissue). Most medical procedures used today haven’t changed significantly in several thousand years. Boils are still lanced, drained, cleaned and closed, bones are still set, and teeth are still pulled, although pain medication has come a long way.
6. Biological Weapons
With the increase in medical knowledge through the ages, there has also been a markedly increased reverse engineering of the same knowledge to produce biologically based warfare tactics. In medieval times, besieging armies would hurl rotting carcasses into a city with catapults and trebuchet. Farther ago, there is evidence that plagued prisoners were thrown into rivers and streams leading to a city, poisoning it’s water supply and demoralizing the defending forces.
5. Heated Indoor Swimming Pools
The Baths of Caracalla were one of the largest bathing complexes built in ancient Rome. The baths boasted both heated and cooled rooms, heated and cooled baths, a gymnasium for sports and a “hat check room” where garments and personal effects were held under guard by a slave. An ingenious network of under-floor rooms and tunnels, coupled with heating furnaces arrayed around the lot, created the marvelous thermal differences used by the patrons.
4. Postal System
Ancient postal systems were normally used either for official business conducted by the government or by the military. They were often the fastest form of information conductivity available.
3. Concrete
The Romans are credited with inventing ‘modern’ concrete as a building material. It was a completely revolutionary material at the time. It was lightweight, extremely strong, dried underwater and highly pliable when wet. The basic components of concrete haven’t changed in several thousand years and, in some ways, Roman concrete is superior to that which is used today.
2. Mechanical Astrological Calculator
The earliest known example of a mechanical calculator used in the calculation of astronomical objects is the Antikythera Mechanism. Its gears were used to compute the position of the Sun, Moon and possibly other astrological objects. It’s complexity rivals that of clocks produced in the 1700’s. The Antikythera Mechanism was produced sometime between 150 and 100 BC.
1. Glassware
The earliest known use of glassware occurred in Ancient Mesopotamia. Its use was later copied and refined by several civilizations including, but not limited to, the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians.
Contributor: Levi






























Levi: I make it a point to play through FFVI at least once a year. Thats how much I love it. Always a great game and i can look past the looks because I love it so much.
The important question is: how come these technologies got ‘lost’ along the way?
WHAT?! no mention of the Bagdhad battery?….
Diogenes….Getting close was how the ancients fought, the rammed eachother. Yes, there were bowmen on board, but the rowers were all below deck, so the bows did nothing to disable a ship. So getting close to unleash Greek fire was no problem at all.
I think it is fine to offer constructive critiques of the lists. Having the ability to comment and talk about lists is important nad makes this site cool. Even saying “great list” is a critique or complement.
Of course, this should be done in a respectful and positive manner. We don’t want to discourage future contributors.
As far as this list….Is the true use of that calculator still in debate? I thought the challenge was that no one knew what it really did.
sdggrant: how far out in the sea do you think they were with man power to ram other ships? and the way you describe it, i see them as closer to submarine. ..plowing through at war on the edge of the earth.
SubliminalDeath: It’s okay, I just want to make more people aware that ‘gay’ should not be used in a negative way, EVER! It is so hurtful to people who are struggling with coming out, and a lot of people that use it don’t even realize how much they’re hurting others because they don’t say anything. Just being the voice for those who have none. Nothing personal, I call pretty much everyone out on it. Just be careful, you never know who you’re hurting.
I read that cosmetics was first used by people of the Indus Civilization almost 3000 years ago, then the egyptians , and then the Romans!
It’s funny the only one I didn’t know they had wa a flame thrower… but I probably saw that on the history channel and forgot about it LoL… I watch way too much T.V.
I’m sure Kelsi means well, but political correctness makes me gag. Every gay person I know has absolutely no problem with the use of the word “gay” when directed at things like this. They’re smart enough and well-balanced enough to understand the difference between a throw-away pejorative and an actual insult or “hate speech.”
Now, “flgh” (#62): The reason some of these technologies got lost is because of this little thing called the Fall of the Roman Empire and the subsequent Dark Ages—you may have heard of these events. Lotsa loss, many books, buildings, and works of art destroyed. In fact… all of Western Civilization fell. That, uh… explains it.
And anyway, point of fact is, not all this technology was “lost.” The point of the list was, the ancients HAD this stuff.
Randall: Talking of PC crap, have you heard of the ‘Fairytale of New York’ and ‘*****’ thing that happened here over the past couple of days?
Nope, didn’t hear a thing. What’s this about?
Essentially the controller of BBC Radio 1 (one of the the big national radio stations here) decided it would be a good idea to censor the word ‘*****’ from the song ‘Fairytale of New York’, just in case anyone was offended by it.
Loads of people complained (as in, LOADS) about it though, including gay groups over here, so 2 days after they did it they started playing the uncensored version again.
PC got mad, as they say.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7150693.stm
Thats the story from the BBC news site.
wait a second… in the UK, where “*****” has traditionally meant A) a bundle of sticks and/or B) a cigarette… they censored that word in a song by the Pogues–an IRISH band?
Funny.
Not that any of that matters—of course I know the song, and the word is used as Americans have used it—as a term for a homo*****ual… but again, more proof that Political Correctness has run far more rampant in the UK (the Nanny State) than it has here.
The battery, thought to have existed in Baghdad/Egypt around 250BC. Check out the Baghdad Battery for more information.
Randall: I do make a habit of hanging out with ill-adjusted, easily inflamed, mentally unbalanced kids…many of whom happen to be (possibly?) gay. Makes life interesting. I’m sorry the thought of politiness, respect, and modesty makes you gag. I happen to be a fan of it, myself. It is used in society to make everyone comfortable, and if you don’t care about people feeling comfortable and happy to be around you, then what sort of person are you anyway?
Should we not call things “stupid” or “retarded” as well, out of fear of *****ing of mentally retarded people??? Words have different meanings in different situations and intelligent human beings are able to decipher that difference. I had a neighbor get *****ed at me the other day for refering to my dog (a female dog which my famiy breeds and I LOVE very much) as a *****, which by the way is the correct term for a breeding female dog, she said it was offensive to women. I had a gay co-worker who used the word “gay” to describe things he thought were stupid, come to think of it, many of his gay friends which I met did the same. If words bother you, wear earplugs.
sdggrant: Citing examples of other people’s thoughless behavior does not make it any more acceptable to me.
I was helping some of my clients with a geography lesson. I thought they would be able to memorize more easily if I made it fun. So I collected a mixture of Silly American Laws. As it happens one of my clients was born with one arm. She unfortunately picked Iowa as her state the first bit of silly facts she drew was “Iowa law forbids any establishment from charging admission to see a one-armed piano player. “ So as you can guess she was devastated. She ran out of the room crying and feeling o’so sorry for herself. I of course was busy laughing at fate. She of course was offended by my laughter as well. I guess what I am trying to say is being offended is another matter of opinion something that is safe and fostered here, because really who wants to worry that what they write may offend someone. One of the things I appreciate here is the diplomacy and outrageous humor. Everyone needs the ability to laugh at themselves. Saying Gay List was not written with hate against homo*****uality it was written as “this list is not my cup of tea” at least that’s my opinion.
Although this list is my cup of tea I enjoyed it very much!
Kelsi, get off your freakin’ high-horse.
And in particular, don’t give me your crap about politeness. I said nothing personally insulting or rude to you in my original comment, but you (as the self-styled example of politeness here) came back and sniped at me. (QUOTE: “I’m sorry the thought of politiness, respect, and modesty makes you gag. I happen to be a fan of it, myself. It is used in society to make everyone comfortable, and if you don’t care about people feeling comfortable and happy to be around you, then what sort of person are you anyway?”)
AS IT HAPPENS, “madam,” I did NOT say that “politeness, respect” or “modesty” make me gag. I said POLITICAL CORRECTNESS makes me gag. YOU may have some confusion in regards to the definition of these terms, but I can assure you that *I* do not.
Let me give you some lessons about life, Kelsi:
A) Public discourse is NOT (this may come as a surprise to you) about “making people comfortable.” That’s the job of the host of a party, or a flight attendant, a hotel employee, or those similarly involved in the hospitality industry.
B) Sanctimonius people, such as yourself, are roundly disliked in society; however, I’m sure you (and they) never notice it because you’re 1) too busy BEING sanctimonius and patting yourself on the back for it, and 2) you end up associating only with OTHER sanctimonius individuals.
C) Neither society, nor anyone here on this website, nor I—are required to operate by YOUR rules of discourse, even if you think (obviously this is the case) that we damn well should. I can’t help whatever habits you have in regards to “hanging out” with “mentally imbalanced kids”… and whether this is the profession you’ve chosen for yourself or simply how you get your kicks, I don’t frankly care. I don’t need you to tell me how to comport myself in situations that are not relevant to the restrictions and niceties encumbent upon YOU for your job or your way of life. In public, I am very much in the habit of keeping within the bounds of good taste and politeness–clearly more than YOU understand or can personally manage, given your repeated habit of trying to tell people on this website how to conduct themselves. I do not view a website as being the same thing as talking aloud in a public setting, nor do I think most people view it as such. If you do, then I suggest you stop looking on the web and stay home where you can continue congratulating yourself on your superior manners.
In any case, I invite you in future to keep your middle class, tight-assed attitudes to yourself.
It’s people like you, who think you’re oh-so-virtuous-and-righteous, who contribute your own little tiny, miserable bit to making life intolerable.
Wow… I was going to make a comment on the Baghdad Battery but errmmm it seems like a silly point now.
Sooo is everyone getting excited for the holidays…
wiki link to the Baghdad Battery for anyone who cares: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_battery
Randall: I’m sorry that me saying that I found a word offsensive makes your life miserable. You’re sort of an *****, you know? You made some really broad generalizations about my character, and I never asked anyone to follow my rules of discourse, I simply asked SubliminalDeath666 to be more thoughtful of his use of offensive words. Whether or not he does is solely up to him. You can do whatever the hell you want. I happen to not be middle aged, bitter, and fed up with society like you, so I do my part to still try and improve it. =)
Also, I would like to add that I am rather surprised at everyone’s attitude toward the usage of the word ‘gay’ in a negative sense. How old are those of you who are arguing against me? It’s sort of a thing that goes around with my genetation, so I would not be surprised at your misunderstanding as you probably did not spend much of your rebellious teen and college years fighthing for gay rights like I am.
Kelsi:
“…I would not be surprised at your misunderstanding as you probably did not spend much of your rebellious teen and college years fighthing for gay rights like I am.”
And there it is, right there—the self-righteous, nostril-upturned air of the self-congratulatory boor. You’re just oh-so-better than the rest of us slobs who toss “hateful” words around, aren’t you?
How do you know what I or anyone else here has done or hasn’t done for the rights of others?
Ordinarily I just wouldn’t waste my time bothering with you, Kelsi, but once again I remind you—you CHOSE to take a swipe at me when I made NO *personal* comment towards you. I simply said that political correctness makes me gag–and so it does–but I predicated my statement by offering you a nicety, that I was “sure you mean well.” Now I’m not so sure, and in fact I now retract even this mild bone tossed your way.
“I happen to not be middle aged, bitter, and fed up with society like you, so I do my part to still try and improve it.”
Again the self-congratulatory, smug and self-satisfied air of the person who ASSURES themselves that THEY are doing the RIGHT thing while all others who don’t see it their way MUST be bad and must be *****s.
It cannot be, can it, Kelsi, that you and I PROBABLY do believe in many of the same things–such as gay rights–can it? Because I don’t speak the language or act the part that you think I and others should speak and act, to conform to YOU.
And ***** that I am, I conclude this now before I get TOO hurtful, because the fact is I suspect you’re more fragile than you let on, and I have no wish to keep hammering at you about this.
Oh for crying out loud…did the ancients invent long discussions on political correctness for Internet list websites too?
I’m sure, Dana, that ancient Romans had long, thought out discussions in the forum about political correctness. Although, I doubt that it was called that back then.
And Kelsi, Im currently enjoying my college years and am half way through my junior year.
The ancient Chinese had blast furnaces, seismographs, And an invention called the cosmic engine. I saw these things on a documentary on the history channel last night.
I had a boner.
Now I don’t.
Randall – well said.
I, too, abhor political correctness and the self-serving smugness that often accompanies it. But, like you, this doesn’t logically infer that I set out to be offensive or impolite during my routine comings and goings in the “real world”.
@ Dana (comment 86)
Yes, they did! The first discussion on Political correctness was started by Exasperius Debatilus in the year 2108 b.c.
^of course I might be off on the year, I just poked at random numbers.
Exasperius Debatilus- hahaha
Ancient Egyptians also had birth control, and no not, uh hem, pulling out. They used honey and crocodile dung as spermicide, mainly because they didn’t grasp the concept of the female eggs. They thought it was all sperm doing the job for quite sometime.
Ginger Lee: that is interesting! Thanks for mentioning that. We could probably do a second list like this one.
condoms was left out, they were first invented in the 1500′s, even though, it is not that long ago, as most on the list, it is still pretty amazing. they were first made out of sheep stomach lining.
Jeez… I leave for Christmas break and come back to find that Political Correctness has come to the Ancients. ::sighs:: Ahh… well… Um yeah. I reall don’t have anything else to say.
Perhaps… Rome rules or something of the sort?
kandi_g:
Actually, there’s evidence that condoms go back farther than the 1500s… if I’m not mistaken, there are items mentioned in various ancient Greek (Apuleius, I think) and… I think Babylonian texts which could almost certainly only refer to what we would today call “condoms”—so you’re even more dead on than you thought–this would be a great addition to the list.
This is such a non-gay list.
^___^ Oops.
They also had batteries…
I think you should have put that on there…
But overall, good list.
Just noticed, I think #9 is a Chinese odometer cart, not a Roman one. It has a Chinese figure on it and Chinese writing (I think)
they have wisdow too
some ancient civilisations also had batteries:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm
The photo above the “odometer” illustrating item 9 on this page is not an “odometer” – but a Chinese invention which through a system of gears always pointed the direction “home”. The little sage atop the center post points toward the origin of the journey no matter how many turns and changes in direction the cart has taken… Kinda nice when the magnetic compass hadn’t been invented yet…
So – wrong image – see those are Chinses characters on there? …not Roman.
Medicines? Glassware? Postal system? Cosmetics?
Why is this list called “Top 10 Things You Didn’t Know the Ancients Had”? Who is meant by “you”? One would have to be pretty dumb to not know that ancient civilizations used medicines, surgical procedures and glassware. And cosmetics? WTF?
Here’s the wikipedia article on item no.9. It’s called a 指南車 or zhi nan che
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pointing_Chariot
But the romans never figured out a working calender. They didnt have leap years, so they ended up having october in the middle of summer, etc. At the same time though, the celts had a working calender, and they had leap years.
it’s amazing how the ancients had this!
SocialButterfly- a bunch of people called out the Mythbusters for their attempt in disproving that, so they had a bunch of students come in and test the myth on their own and they proved it right…
Bhagdad battery used for electrolysis and electroplating.
Here are three more:
Batteries – about 2000 years before the first experiments in Europe, the Persian (or Iranians) invented the batteries. Samples are still being found in archeological digs.
Anti-pregnancy pills – There are herbs that are very efficient natural anti-pregnancy agents. They were discovered many centuries ago and were still used a hundred years ago in the Balkans. There were also such that cause termination of early pregnancies. They were both not as good as what we have today, but some reports suggest around 70% efficiency. Overall the medicine of the ancients was much better for the common man than today. Now we specialize in complex procedures and the preventive medicine is almost non-existent.
Sound weapons – in Bulgaria several artifacts were found that dated back to the 3-4 century b.C. They were made from very pure crystal and had copper wiring all over them. Later a physics professor has a crazy idea and thank God they went though with it. It was discovered that when running a weak current with specific properties though the wiring, the magnetic field made the crystal tremble and emit sub-sound waves that disabled everyone in the room. Sort like the weapons you can see on Discovery channel now.
What a shame that you have all this knowledge, and yet don’t know the difference between the possessive “its” and the contraction “it’s” (“it is”). Good site, otherwise.
i just hit my stumble button and you all go away-bye bye.
BTW Rey, the flame thrower attributed to the Byzantines was in fact invented by the ancient Chinese…..They also get credit for the first semi-automatic firing weapon developed about 500 years before Christ….
Mac
Now, this is a story all about how
My life got flipped-turned upside down
And I liked to take a minute
Just sit right there
I’ll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air
In west Philadelphia born and raised
On the playground was where I spent most of my days
Chillin’ out maxin’ relaxin’ all cool
And all shootin some b-ball outside of the school
When a couple of guys
Who were up to no good
Startin making trouble in my neighborhood
I got in one little fight and my mom got scared
She said ‘You’re movin’ with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air’
I begged and pleaded with her day after day
But she packed my suite case and send me on my way
She gave me a kiss and then she gave me my ticket.
I put my walkman on and said, ‘I might as well kick it’.
First class, yo this is bad
Drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass.
Is this what the people of Bel-Air Living like?
Hmmmmm this might be alright.
But wait I hear there’re prissy, wine all that
Is Bel-Air the type of place they send this cool cat?
I don’t think so
I’ll see when I get there
I hope they’re prepared for the prince of Bel-Air
Well, the plane landed and when I came out
There was a dude who looked like a cop standing there with my name out
I ain’t trying to get arrested
I just got here
I sprang with the quickness like lightening, disappeared
I whistled for a cab and when it came near
The license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror
If anything I can say this cab is rare
But I thought ‘Naw forget it’ – ‘Yo homes to Bel Air’
I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8
And I yelled to the cabbie ‘Yo homes smell ya later’
I looked at my kingdom
I was finally there
To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air
good job but you misspelled suitcase
“suite” is pronounced just like “sweet”
I enjoyed reading this even though I already knew most of them (being a History channel fan). Just proves how well written it was to be a good read anyway!
All I can say to the PC thing is Randall, will you marry me?! lol
I’m with Randall too, that Kelsi biatch can go f**k herself…
Is it bad that I read every comment up to one I am posting right now…and enjoyed it?
I do not believe this