Comments on: Top 10 Astonishing Miracles

By: JebusWeenus

JebusWeenus — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:26:28 +0000

These are very good examples of just how crazy and gullible religious people are. There is no god and there was no Jesus! No Santa either! It’s time to grow up already!

Incredible Edible Jesus

http://ravingatheists.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16087&page=264

By: Miguel Guillen

Miguel Guillen — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:03:43 +0000

First of all I consider myself agnostic but I’ll try to make a fair comment about a couple of these miracles with my limited knowledge of the matter.

The first one is the miracle of the tilma of Juan Diego and think I can comment because I’m from Mexico and I know the story, but also I know some inconsistencies with the miracle:

1. Fray Juan de Zumarraga the bishop to whom the tilma was presented, was a very literate man, he was the founder of UNAM (The university of Mexico) he made a good number of essays and doctrines, so he happens to be a remarkable writer, the problem is that in none of his documents appears a single word of the Virgin apparition or Juan Diego. So why the principal witness, a well known write,r didn’t register or mention such a remarkable event?
2. The apparition conveniently had place in the Tepeyac hill over the Tonanzin Temple were the Guadalupe Church was command to be built time after the apparition. Tonanzin was by the way a goddess, better known as the Holy Mother of the native people. Coincidence? Not at all, build churches over former indigenous temples was a very common practice for the conquistadors of the time.
3. The tilma (indigenous cloth) is not really a tilma is a regular painting canvas and the painting was credited to a local painter Marcos Cipac Aquino who based the paint in the Virgin of exremadura (a burnette virgin).
4. The paint suffer several restorations at least two well known registered restorations one in 1947 and the other in 1973, by the painter Jose Antonio Flores Gomez.

The second miracle I want to comment is of the Lady of Fatima, I visited Portugal last summer and I visited the church of Fatima I’m very skeptic of these kind of things but I had a feeling of sadness very strong once we enter to the church, without saying a word my girlfriend start crying for no reason. We visited a bunch of churches in Europe that summer but we didn’t feel that sadness in any other church. That’s something I just can’t explain.

By: UltraMontane

UltraMontane — Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:21:51 +0000

Thank you so much for realizing that yes, it is very easy to fall into an atheist bias when trying to cater to all types.
On the topic, the Catholic Church has the most miracles worthy of belief for the simple reason that it is the only true religion in the world. The simple truth is, very very few individuals have seriously studied Catholicism deeply from an unbiased and open-minded perspective. They will definitely be surprised by truth. The Church has the most documented miracles because it has the most evidence of any religion from any perspective of being true. Only dismiss it after examination.
If there are miracles from other religions that have evidence for being true, please post, I would like to know about it.

By: MUSSA

MUSSA — Sat, 26 Nov 2011 08:13:34 +0000

this is the amazing fact of the God.

By: Mike Maravilla

Mike Maravilla — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:28:27 +0000

Its is NOT wax. Go see for yourself.

By: Mike Maravilla

Mike Maravilla — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:22:31 +0000

The Shroud of Turin should be in the Top Ten. Check out http://www.shroud.com.
The Shroud is believed to be the burial cloth of Jesus on which is miraculously imprinted, much like the Tilma of Guadalupe, the frontal and dorsal image of a dead man with the wounds of the crucifixion. It shows the face of Jesus on photographic negatives. It was almost invisible to the naked eye until photography was discovered and the positive image showed up on photographic negatives.

By: Mike Maravilla

Mike Maravilla — Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:15:36 +0000

Why only Catholics? Only the Catholic Church has been licensed: “Thou art Peter, and upon this Rock I will build MY Church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. .. I give you the keys to the kingdom.” Only the Catholic Church received the Keys. Non datur quod non habet.

By: James Emery

James Emery — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 21:24:30 +0000

Ummmm… Yeah… Actually, the face and hands that you’re seeing ARE wax. Do a bit more research there. Her body is in fine shape for its age, but is still mildewed, mummified, and missing patches of skin.

By: danielle

danielle — Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:00:20 +0000

miracles happen to catholics more than others because they are the largest christian group and the oldest. And the reason you hear about catholic miracles more is also because catholics have the most documented miracles with the most evidence. And its funny how all these people on this site like to just throw dumb explanations out their like tens of thousands of people were mistaken about seeing a miracle. just about all of these miracles especially the miracle of the sun and marian apparition were seen by both christians and nonchristians even atheists saw these miracles. And the miracles on the list especially miracle of the sun and marian apparition had many documented healings such as the healing of the blind and handicapped people being able to walk normally and people with deadly diseases healed. IF SOME OF YOU PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND THE MIRACLES THATS OKAY BUT DONT MAKE UP SOME CRAPPY EXCUSE TO TRY TO DISCREDIT THEM AND TRY TO DISCREDIT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SEEN THEM. IF YOU DONT WANT TO BELIEVE OKAY BUT UNLESS YOU CAN FIND HARD EVIDENCE THAT DISCREDITS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLES TESTIMONY EVEN NONCRISTIANS,ATHEISTS,SCIENTISTS,JOURNALISTS AND MANY HIGHLY RESPECTED INDIVIDUALS THEN DONT SAY ANYTHING.

By: tom crowley

tom crowley — Thu, 29 Sep 2011 19:25:14 +0000

as a scientist I am always amazed at how some skeptics just blow off explanations – mass hysteria for example, by poor ignorant people (I wonder if the writer is a humanist).

how testable is that hypothesis? you can’t just pull something out of a hat and say that is the explanation. I work on global warming – there are formal mathematical ways of determining whether some unusual climate anomaly is consistent with global warming (ex., warming of the planet).

just giving some off the cuff explanation is not scientific at all.

one example – many of the people witnessed what looked like the sun coming right at them. now how could that self hysteria concoct something so outlandish that could be immediately apprehended by thousands of people. the explanation is actually harder to believe than the alternate interpretation is that it is a miracle.