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Erotica has existed since man first was able to think. A once large industry has now burst out as a giant in entertainment due to the Internet. Most people with access to the net has seen pornography either intentionally or accidentally. This list takes a look at some of the more obscure facts surrounding pornography. NOTE: This list may be Not Safe For Work. The images are mostly okay but the text is definitely not.
While nude images of humans have existed for as long as civilization, it was not until the Victorian era that pornography in the sense that we know it existed. Prior to the 19th century, there were a few laws regarding sexual behavior, but none regarding images of sexuality. The Victorians were a prudish bunch and they outlawed depiction of nudity for all but the upper class, who they felt had the moral strength to cope with the images. When Pompeii was discovered – with all of its nude statues, they were quickly moved off to The Secret Museum in Naples. Despite this, pornography was very popular in the Victorian world, but people were discreet with their use of it.
Considering the fact that Australia is an open democracy, it is illegal to sell any X-rated materials (or to rent them) in all but two of the states there. The two states which do allow it are the ACT and Northern Territory. Because of a discrepancy in Australian law, it is not illegal to own or transfer X-rated material across state lines, so ACT and the Northern Territory are home to almost all of Australia’s porn mail order companies. In 2007, the Government made possession of some X-rated material illegal for certain aboriginal communities.
The porn industry is a very powerful one – so much so that it has had major parts to play in the “format-wars” over the years. Not only did it play an important role in the HD-DVD vs Blue-ray war, but it helped secure the victory of VHS over Betamax. With a market of well over 50 billion dollars a year, it is no surprise that porn producers hold much sway in entertainment. Porn revenue is larger than all combined revenues of all professional football, baseball, and basketball franchises.
Contrary to what many people say, the countries with the easiest access to hardcore pornography also have the lowest sex-crime rates in the world. A good example of this is Japan where a study in 1995 found: “[s]ex crimes in every category, from rape to public indecency, sexual offenses from both ends of the criminal spectrum, significantly decreased in incidence. Most significantly, despite the wide increase in availability of pornography to children, not only was there a decrease in sex crimes with juveniles as victims but the number of juvenile offenders also decreased significantly.”
There are two main core non-governmental groups that oppose pornography: religions and feminism. Both of these groups claim that pornography can be addictive, characterized by an over-use or abuse of pornographic material. They believe that five steps in addiction exist, and that they ultimately can lead to cheating on a partner or even sexual crime (contrary to the above evidence). Feminists also believe that pornography is demeaning to women. The Roman Catholic Church considers the viewing of pornography to be a “grave offense” – in other words, viewing pornography leads to damnation.
The average male pornstar makes anywhere between $50 – $1500. They are paid per scene (not per hour) and generally are not paid royalties. On the other hand, women can make up to quarter of a million dollars a year and some female pornstars have become so wealthy that they have retired young and rich. The richest porn star is Jenna Jameson who recently sold her $30 million club to Playboy for an undisclosed sum.
If you are male and want to get into a career in pornography, your chances of being accepted for mainstream porn are tiny. If, however, you are willing to do gay porn, there is a huge hole in the market and you will find that unless you are incredibly hideous, your opportunities are huge. But back to straight porn. If you want to get a job as a straight male pornstar, you are most likely to do so by taking an attractive female with you who says that she is only willing to perform if you are involved. The high demand for attractive women will get you a foot in the door.
On average, 50% of hotel guests order pornography on their televisions. A survey of Hilton, Marriot, Hyatt, Sheraton and Holiday Inn hotels found that nearly 70% of their overall profits from room services come from the hire of porn movies. In some countries where it is illegal to broadcast or have pornography, hotels are exempt in order to accommodate the “needs” of their foreign clients.
The total number of pornographic websites is around 4.2 million at the time of writing. That totals up to around 370 million individual pages of porn. On a daily basis, there are around 68 million search requests for porn, and 2.5 billion spam porn emails. 20% of men admit to viewing porn at work during the working week, while 13% of women admit the same.
In the early days of the film porn industry, people called “fluffers” were employed by film studios to “arouse” the male participants prior to filming scenes. They would perform sexual acts on the actor. They were also required to keep the actors “cleaned up” between scenes and were normally considered to be part of the makeup department. While fluffers are almost entirely a thing of the past, there are some studios that still employ them – particularly in “gang bang” type scenes. Digital cameras and drugs like Viagra have removed much of the need for fluffers.
Contributor: JFrater
February 5th, 2009 at 2:28 am
Interesting list… is there a reason why nobody else has commented yet? are we a shy bunch? lol
Anyway I was surprised by all these, it made for a good read.
February 5th, 2009 at 2:40 am
Nice list……. But where r da comments? Are u all too shy or ‘underaged’ or don’t tell me u guys still believe in ‘cooties’ xD.
PS and I think JFrater’s a horny little bastard
February 5th, 2009 at 2:52 am
Interesting list. I think that a lot of the usuals might be a bit scared to admit reading through a list about pornography. Either that or they usually comment from work. lol
February 5th, 2009 at 3:07 am
Um regarding number 8 and I know its nit picking but neither the act or nt are states. Also you can hire and buy porn in the other states of australia all the video stores rent it out there are adult shops etc. I don’t know too much about it but they are rated r I think? If that’s a way of getting past x ratings?
February 5th, 2009 at 3:09 am
BBWed guns on the list, g – in China it is easy buying bootlegged porn DVds from vendors on the streets, and excellent quality, too, for a mere handful of RMB yo.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:07 am
No idea on the slow comments – but I can assure you all that I am not a horny bastard
I just thought it would be an interesting list. I may even include it in the book!
February 5th, 2009 at 4:08 am
jajdude: nice to see your random comments back
February 5th, 2009 at 4:08 am
Oh – restarted the servers in case that was the problem. Looks like it was.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:13 am
Jfrater: I live in Norway will I be able to buy the book? I feel I have to
I can’t wait to see it.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:20 am
If you are a male and are well endowed, you chances become much better.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:25 am
“If, however, you are willing to do gay porn, there is a huge hole in the market …”
HAHAHA!
And ACT and NT are not states.
More careful reading and commenting will have to wait until my wife is not in the same apartment.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:31 am
First weed now this! This site just keeps getting better!
February 5th, 2009 at 4:33 am
I’m sorry its crude and juvenile but this excerpt made me laugh.. “If, however, you are willing to do gay porn, there is a huge hole “
February 5th, 2009 at 4:34 am
Yeah, you can buy porno’s from just about any newsagents in Australia (stuff like playboy, Ralph, Hustler etc.), but as cb said, they are rated R, although i thought R and X were the same thing nowadays or something…
February 5th, 2009 at 4:39 am
To reiterate what #5., cb, was sayind. In Australia, the ACT and NT, are territories not states and are there by void from any laws they apply to only states. It’ basically a technicality and I recently moved from Canberra (the capital) to Sydney and in most states they have ‘Adult Book Stores’ as explicit literature is not illegal as books are not rated. But in nearly everyone of these stores and various other ‘Toy Shops’ you can purchase X-Rated videos and magazines. It isn’t very heavily policed at all. People turn a blind eye I guess. But the law does nothing to prevent anyone from easily getting there hands on pornography, the way it should be. Freedom and liberty and all that jazz. Take care. Sorry about the woffle-ing on.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:40 am
Probably should have proof read.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:42 am
For #7 “Porn Leads To Crime – Or Does It?”, the statistics could be skewed. Perhaps, less crimes are reported.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Another Australian porn fact: accessing internet porn is illegal in Australia! (but the law is not enforced). It’s forbidden to access anything that would be rated X or refused classification.
You say the average male porn star makes $50 – $1500 per scene, but so does the average female porn star. Few will become popular enough to get rich off it.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:08 am
warningdontreadthis: definitely – our distributors include Amazon and Barnes and Noble who ship books internationally
Muzli: from my research it appears that penis size does not help you get a job – it is about who you know if you are male.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:13 am
16. Jacob – It’s easy to just *say* that “statistics could be skewed,” but that’s such a vague statement that you can say it about nearly anything. Back it up or don’t say anything. If it really, really interests you, research the field and make a study of your own.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:14 am
i wonder if the present economic crisis has resulted in job cuts in the porn industry?
February 5th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Excellent, Jamie, thank you.
I recall reading that lesbian porn was not outlawed during the Victorians reign, as the queen refused to believe that women would ever do such things.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:15 am
I’m confused… Some Aboriginal tribes are banned from possessing pornography? I’m curious as to why that is. There much be a reason?
As for number 7 – I wonder if having access to watching strange or illegal acts on video can help a person with those desires resist acting on them. As in, if a man finds the idea of rape extremely attractive, he can satisfy that urge through watching it (hopefully simulated) rather than acting on it himself? Assuming the stats are actually directly related – I would be curious to see if studies have been done to figure out the “why.”
February 5th, 2009 at 5:16 am
#20- I don’t think that industry would suffer… People are always looking for an escape, more so when times are bad.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:18 am
Good list…I never realized porn played such an important role in the entertainment industry (#8). I do believe in the lowering crime statistic, though. That’s why they should legalize prostitution in America. The ‘employees’ would get treated much better, even get benefits, and they may even build hotels specifically for prostitutes creating more jobs. Rape crimes would go down, and the government could even tax certain sex acts! Can you imagine turning on CSPAN and seeing a bill going through the Senate to tax brothel clients who request fellatio?
February 5th, 2009 at 5:31 am
wow…technical but nice.. tnx again..
February 5th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Actually the porn industry has been hurting from falling DVD sales and the economic downturn. They probably need a bailout from the government.
February 5th, 2009 at 5:39 am
How on earth do they think they’re going to enforce a law against accessing online porn in Australia? Starting to sound rather China here….
February 5th, 2009 at 5:59 am
porn porn porn..aside from food,what else do u need if ur stuck in an island ?? hahaha..tsk tsk.. physical pleasure..u cant bring it to the next world…..
February 5th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Great list on one of my favorite subjects. Now if I can only learn to type with one hand.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Nice J , saw ur porno side LOL. That HDDVD Vs BluRay and Porn Industry was a new one and amazing.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:09 am
That HD-DVD vs BLU-RAY comment was also featured in Tropic Thunder, which is an awesome movie
February 5th, 2009 at 6:11 am
Porn is available in Australia as long as the porn does not show an illegal act (eg: minors). Possession of such material is illegal.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:12 am
I like Porn
February 5th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Nice list, but one complaint. On #9, it refers to the ACT. That would be like me posting something on the states and referring only to the State Abbreviation, such as “Something happened in MO.” Remember to spell out at least once, so those of us not in Australia know what you’re talking about.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Alas, I too had a little giggle at the ‘huge hole in the market’ line…..heheheh.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Excellent list and quite timely. I read an article the other day confirming your point about porn and the drop in violent sex crimes. The stigma associated with being a victim has gone down, reporting has gone up, but still there is a decrease; highest porn availability – greatest drop in violent sex crimes.
http://www.ohio.com/news/38585249.html
I too am curious about a ban on porn in Aboriginal communities. Some of our reservations have themselves instituted a ban on alcohol and drugs here in Canada. Understandable due to our Native folk’s inability (genetic) to handle booze, but again they voted for it, their tribal leaders enforce it. But Porn? I don’t understand. First, why? and second, how can the laws be different for one group of people?
February 5th, 2009 at 6:55 am
There is a gas station in my town, USA, IL that sells porno, beer and some fire works. It’s the most visited place in town!!!
February 5th, 2009 at 7:00 am
I know nothing about this topic. Kind of hard for me to write a comment about something that I don’t know much about, either that or the cramp in my right forearm, arthritic fingers in my right hand and tennis elbow even though I don’t own a tennis racket is making typing hard to do. I also think this list needs better pictorials. I’m going to spend the rest of my life ‘researching’ this list in order to make more informed comments.
I did read a study once that stated that 95% of men masturbate and the other 5% are lying and 100% of women thought that was gross.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:19 am
#38-”Native folk’s inability (genetic)to handle booze” Huh? What strange comment, guess they can’t keep jobs or govern themselves either. Good to know somebody’s watching over them, bless you.
All that aside; it’s nice to know somebody takes porn as serious as I do…morning ‘net routine goes something like this:
1. Wake up, make coffee
2. Drink coffee while checking e-mails
3. Drink coffee while checking the daily news out
4. Porn baby! oooo yah! and maybe another cup of joe
Weekend routine is slightly different because usually I have breakfast in between. haha
Great list, sally forth porn!
A concerned reader
February 5th, 2009 at 7:27 am
I uh…knew almost all of these. To my credit though, there are a lot of porn documentaries on HBO late at night and I am quite the insomniac.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:27 am
bucslim~
i knew you would have to conduct more res arch, seeing as how your virgin eyes & ears have never been exposed to such hedonism…
i like porn! really! most often i just laugh at the poor acting…and to be TOTALLY honest guys, just because it looks good camera doens’t mean it always feels as good as the actors make it seem. (after all, they are actors!)
as for the 50-1500$ per scene for male actors…that’s not the norm. more like 50-300$ and food expenses for the day, along with a masseuse after the day is over…
i personally know a retired porn actress and she told me that she would often get 1000$-$1500 for an entire day’s worth of shooting. i’m talking 9 to 5, with a short break for lunch. now, they don’t actually shoot scenes for 8 hours… more like 5 or 6, due to make-up, scene changes, and frequent breaks for the actors. director’s change their mines, lighting could be wrong, and yes, the actors do spend some time meeting & greeting each other while clothed.
she would tell me the wildest stories, mostly that scenes had to be shot so many times, over & over, and if you began to really enjoy your scene, inevitably your director or camera guy would want you to change positions, ultimately rendering the ‘fun’ right out of the scene.
by the last scene of the day, well, both the female & male actors would be so numb that it was all playing & laughing & pay me so i can go home & relax.
ringtailroxy
February 5th, 2009 at 7:34 am
This was an interesting list- alot of fun to start the day with this one. I think a lot of feminists concerns over pornography are changing with the new generations. We’ve seen a big change and increase in erotica that is marketed to women over the years and a lot more appreciation for the women that work in the field.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:36 am
I remember that in Japan during the early 1990’s all of the Playboy and similar “reading” materials always had all of the woman’s crotch areas blurred out. Although every newspaper and magazine in the country had a photo of a big-breasted topless girl on the front inside page a small patch of hair that really looks no different whether it is blurred out or not is taboo. I don’t know if it is still the same way now but I found it funny that a copy of Playboy would be censored in the same country that sells used school girls panties in vending machines and created and cherishes animated tentacle porn!
February 5th, 2009 at 7:38 am
CurtShmurt; That is a proven fact. Native Canadians inherit the lack of a specific enzyme that metabolizes alcohol making them genetically predisposed to addiction. It’s not a strange comment; it is the truth. And I believe that they can and do manage their own affairs. Did you even read my comment? That’s why I was concerned when it was stated that porn was banned from certain aboriginal communities. I wanted to know who made this decision; themselves or someone else taking it upon themselves to decide just who should be able to get porn?
February 5th, 2009 at 7:41 am
“If you are male and want to get into a career in pornography, your chances of being accepted for mainstream porn are tiny.”
For some skewed reason, this sentence made me laugh.
The respondent who wrote that the gas station which sold beer, porn and fireworks is the most visited business in town reminded me of the dream my college roommate and I had.
To open a Live Bait and Porn Shoppe when we retired.
Why live bait and porn? Because sometimes the fish just aren’t biting.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:46 am
The reason porn (and alcohol) is banned in some aboriginal communities is that sexual abuse of children is a massive problem there and the government were trying anything they could to stop it.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:47 am
“If, however, you are willing to do gay porn, there is a huge hole in the market and you will find that unless you are incredibly hideous, your opportunities are huge.”
I about wet myself over that one! Best list ever…btw, I am one of the 13% of women who like porn and think it’s fine…thank you!
I am not nor will I ever be a feminist…the idea is revolting. I like men how they are…what else am I to a laugh at?
February 5th, 2009 at 8:14 am
the porn industry actually did ask to get a bail out from the government seeing that they have such a large market.
let’s get something straight though, rape is not about sex. rape is a power play. it is for an insecure man to show his control over someone.
as for the idea in #7 about the relation of crime and pornography, corelation does not equal causation. perhaps when that study was done in japan, they also ate more hamburgers and that made them too tired to pursue sex crimes. without isolation of the related factors, those statistics are just pure conjecture.
and absolutely, porn is addictive. hence the need for thousands of sex addicts anonymous groups in america.
February 5th, 2009 at 8:28 am
#4: “A Huge Hole in the Market”
I see what you did there
February 5th, 2009 at 9:06 am
The picture on # 6 is from Cracked.com right?…
February 5th, 2009 at 9:15 am
they also inject drugs directly into the penis to keep them erect and more “full” during porn also. its similar to steroids and stuff.
February 5th, 2009 at 9:17 am
OK, I hate to beat a dead horse, but the “If, however, you are willing to do gay porn, there is a huge hole in the market…” is still cracking me up…
On to another little bit that made me laugh, “Victorians were a prudish bunch and they outlawed depiction of nudity for all but the upper class, who they felt had the moral strength to cope with the images…” Imagine… The upper class made the laws and made it illegal for everyone but themselves to view porn… Funny how that works out…
February 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Sorry mom, I said haha
February 5th, 2009 at 9:23 am
I work in a call center here in the Philippines from 11:30pm-8:30am
Net browsing is a no-no..
But what the heck, I Love this site…
: )
February 5th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Jenna Jameson lives here in Arizona (scottsdale, near phoenix). Her films are very popular in town. She also owns (or owned) a strip club and was recently busy fighting the city over various related topics – where clubs and adult stores could be located, how much the dancers can show, etc.
Met her once and got a DVD box autographed.
She is very smart and very attractive.
February 5th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Nice list JF – I believe that even a wee bit of soft porn might rekindle our older citizens sex life.
Missing Chief Sitting Bull and his comments – I
February 5th, 2009 at 9:46 am
“it was not until the Victorian era that pornography in the sense that we know it existed.” Maybe you and I know porn differs, because I’m not sure how this is true. If pornography is defined as explicit visual depictions of sexual acts intended to arouse the viewer, then the scenes at Pompeii surely fit. Does this list’s working definition require it to have a social stigma? If so, might we soon see the end of porn as we know it?!!!
February 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am
It would be wrong to say ‘all feminists’ think porn is degrading to women – feminism is a huge field of study and there’s a good number of feminists who see it as a form of sexual empowerment (backed up by the payment statistics cited here). I happen to be one of those feminists.
February 5th, 2009 at 9:54 am
“I did read a study once that stated that 95% of men masturbate and the other 5% are lying and 100% of women thought that was gross.”
100% thought masturbation was gross? I don’t think so hunny. I know enough girls who love masturbation and their toys that that must have been one biased and flawed study.
February 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am
I pushed send to quickly sorry – just to add I hope he is OK ! # 56
February 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am
This needs to be changed to “SOME Feminists also believe that pornography is demeaning to women.” There is a huge, HUGE amount of women who are both feminists AND pro-porn. Hell, there are even feminist run porn companies! If that sounds contradictory to you, than you need to get a better understanding of both porn and feminism.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:00 am
49. DiscHuker – the porn industry actually did ask to get a bail out from the government seeing that they have such a large market.
They did it more to make fun of the government’s bailout plans than for any real need to monetary rescue. If you read Larry Flynn’s official statement, it’s very tongue-in-cheek. It was the funniest thing I had seen in a long time! Well, second funny to the comments…
February 5th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Interesting list. Can I add one more? 95% of porn marketed to straight men is directed and edited by gay men. Don’t believe me? Try watching one of these. The number of male “rear end” shots actually excedes the number of female rear end shots. And can we please (sarcasm alert) have another cutaway to a sweaty man’s ugly contorted face moaning “oh baby, I’m gunna cum!” EEEECCCCHHHHH!! Totally kills the mood. This is also the reason so many gals in the industry are such bad actresses. A man who hasn’t been with a woman has no idea how unconvincing these gals really sound. So maybe the religious nuts would be glad to know that porn is being viewed less by many men these days, but not for the reasons they’d hope for.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:31 am
62. Kirstin – February 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Completely correct. Sex positive Feminism > the likes of Dworkin’s anti-pornography campaigners.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Wow, I’m impressed by the civility and candidness of the comments on such a subject. I think pornography is something that is inevitably part of modern society, especially on the Internet age, even if some don’t want to look at it or even acknowledge it. But its great popularity reflects without a doubt a major part of what makes us human. The porn industry is big and powerful for a reason.
Anyways, this is some pretty nice information about the porn industry that I actually didn’t know about. This is certainly helpful in breaking down certain preconceptions about pornography and the industry. Very nice and informative!
February 5th, 2009 at 10:45 am
62 and 64
I def came on here to say the same thing. It’s a complete generalization to say that feminists oppose pornography. Of course certain people from all groups oppose pornography, but feminism as a whole is definitely not built on the platform of dislike for porn. A certain part of feminism is about owning your own sexuality and porn definitely fits within that.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:49 am
“you’re the number one non-porn website on the internet! which makes you 10 trillionth overall.”
-simpsons
February 5th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I’ll chime in as a woman who enjoys the occasional porn. Girls like visuals too. Good list Jfrater!
February 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I live in Chatsworth California. According to Wikipedia Chatsworth is known as the unofficial capital of the American pornography trade and houses a significant percentage of the world’s adult production and distribution. Those in the business here keep it very discreet and you would never know it if you visited here. It’s really a great area honest or I wouldn’t be raising a family here. I’m also in the hotel business and yes most of the income from the pay per views are from the porn selection.
Most of the business men will ask the front desk agents to put the movie charges on a separate bill.
Obviously the name of the movie will not appear on the charges but the porn movies are a couple bucks more than the regular movies. Just a word of advice to the guys that view those movies at hotels: The front desk people do know which movie you watched and how long you watched it. So it looks even worse for you if you only watched the movie 5 minutes.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:02 am
i don’t really get the “clean up” part, of the flufer job description, can someone explain?
February 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Nice list,However i’m aware of no’s #10 & #1 so that makes it a top 8 of things i didn’t know bout porn. How about a tep ten list of “the best porn films ever”. I’ll get the ball rolling with: Behind the green door & Debbie does Dallas, claasics but still great to watch.
“If, however, you are willing to do gay porn, there is a huge hole in the market …” pmsl
February 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
How appropriate the guy (me) that lives in the porn capital of the world is commenter 69
February 5th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Never been drawn to hard-core porn, as outside edge as that might sound, but I have enjoyed a bit of the soft fettish stuff. They say a bit of porn helps a marriage, but only if both partners are into it.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Those feminists get on my nerves:
“Oh, pornography is deameaning to women!”
Despite the fact the actresses audition for roles and perform under their own free will. A lot of them really enjoy it too and make long careers out of it.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Awesome article, I have to say
Victorian porn has always been one of my favorites, simply because the Victorians are usually portrayed as very uptight and rigid people. I eventually want to start collecting the “French” post cards and such. It’s just a really interesting and slightly peculiar bit of history.
Also, @Scrump: MOST Japanese pornography is censored due to the laws, including hentai manga and videos. The original art or movie is filmed normally, and then has censorship bars, mosaics, or blurs digitally inserted. It’s bizarre as heck, considering not only the points you’ve made, but the fact that businessmen regularly read hentai manga like… on the bullet train. Just sitting there, reading lolicon, in front of everyone.
To get past this, a lot of hentai is draw with very… shall we say, vague art. Columns of light and dark scenes with pulsing light are used to represent the male and female genetalia, respectively.
Another funny thing to notice is that in censored Hentai manga, they will censor not only a tiny spot at the top of the drawing during penetration scenes, but also the clitoris (for some reason?). They use a tiny, maybe 2mm wide black bar to cover these parts up.
Japan sure is weird XD
February 5th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I swear I only come here for the articles…
February 5th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Nice list!
LOL at bucslim!
Sure, Callie, sure, insomniac, huh? Seriously, I have watched all of those HBO documemtaries too! Highly entertaining!
February 5th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
First time poster, long time reader (ha ha, always wanted to say that). I must say when I first saw the title of this list I was prepared to attack. I have been in the adult industry for three years; either as an actress, photographer, and I am currently casting for male talent (Which is as hard as you say it is
I must say this list was well done without attacking an industry that some people choose to make a living with.
About the feminists, I don’t consider myself one. Most women in the industry (at least where I film) are treated very well and know what to expect a from a shoot. I was always told before hand on camera and I had to agree to it. Feminists who disagree with porn need to realise that it is all about choice. And the money is not bad either.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Disc – did you read the article I posted. There does in fact seem to be some cause and effect going on.
February 5th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
This is a great list and I am surprised it has been so well received. There have been no anti-porn responses from the moral minority, hey I guess that means that the Christians really are all wankers like the rest of us.
Porn really is the new opium of the masses and it seems even the feminists like it. By the way isnt feminism “equal rights for fat ugly women”?
Believe me if you are hot and gorgeous you dont need feminism as I will worship you as the goddess that you are (well as long as you can cook and are a whore in the bedroom)
Anyway funny story about porn, I was having some pain after watching too much porn (if you get my drift) so my doctor referred me to a Urologist.
When I got there I was very surprised as the Urologist was female, young and extremely beautiful
She said to me “you will have to stop masturbating”
I said “oh my god why”?
she said “because I am trying to examine you”
February 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
” If, however, you are willing to do gay porn, there is a huge hole”
wow…
also, if I have an atractive female willing to do porn with me, i don’t think I would go to any producer…I’d just buy a video camera.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Ale(71) – It’s the “fluffer’s” job to keep the make actors arroused and ready for the scenes. Clean-up is…well… keeping the “tools” clean and ready for use.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
dar….. keep the ‘male’ actors…. where’s my proofer??
February 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Oh dear… and then I misspell ‘aroused’… guess I better go back to my ‘other’ web site and calm down a bit.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Hey, uh… can I get a fluffer over here? I’m not ready for the next list!
February 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Blogball I took #69 away from you. Sorry ’bout that.
Ale: I think the “clean up” part of it may be after the scene is finished.
February 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Mom424 – Are you sure ? I am Native Canadian but I am really not addicted to alcohol. I drink every odd weekend, but I know alcoholics personally and I can say that I am not one of them. I understand the high hereditary correlation of alcoholism as I know a girl who does not drink excessively but when she does she goes hysterical and cannot control how much she drinks. She is in denial that there is anything wrong with her, yet her father is a recovering AA member. All of the nights I spent holding that crazy girl down while she tried to attack people is proof enough for me that alcoholism is very genetic.
Enough of the digressing, but I just needed to defend myself and other Native Canadians from those who read these comments and get the idea that all Natives are alcoholics. I’m definitely not saying the violent crazy ones on reserves aren’t, but there are a large number of good apples out there and its not fair to say that we are all genetically geared for a lifetime of alcohol abuse!
February 5th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I’m not sure how alcohol metabolism/allergy correlates to addiction but can see a genetic predisposition for alcoholics to beget a new generation of alcoholics.
I suppose there is a stronger relevance to certain locations/ethnic backgrounds but it’s hard to place an absolute on anything much less medical diagnosis. Statistically, (depending on where your sources are) 99% of the Asian and API culture is lactose intolerant and yet I am the only person in my family (including an extended family of about 10 surviving aunts and uncles, kajillion cousins, and double that 2nd cousins, etc.) with the embarassing encounters of the dairy kind. haha…I suppose there’s some truth to what Mom424’s saying… I am incapable of metabolizing dairy and perhaps that could explain my addiction to cheese and ice cream… I miss eating cheese without cutting it…
February 5th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
64. dave4248
EWWWWW!!! Mental picture! Go to my happy place, raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens, bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens….
I´m not a fan of porn… I guess I just always found the story lines so absurd and the acting so absolutely AWEFUL that I never can get really into it (no offense to MK up at 79).
I´ll take candles, music and a sensual massage over porn any day…
February 5th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
After reading this list I need a cold shower, hehe
February 5th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
GTT: I’m with you!
February 5th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Should I get my camera gear out? It’s getting spicy in here.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I understood all that was needed to register as a male porn star was to provide a small deposit.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Well, after reading these comments, it’s interesting to know what peoples priorities are. meh heh heh, etc.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
We are not amused
February 5th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
@97 HAHA!
February 5th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
I thought women who go into porn have to undergo a few screen tests, casting couch, rigorous ‘acting’ lessons and have to stay in shape, possibly undergoing some surgery to enhance certain things or correct certain things and are under a constant barrage of criticism about their technique, body type and makeup.
You know how guys get into porn? Someone asks them.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Here’s another interesting fact that has been apparently missed, countries with easy access to hardcore pornography also have lower teenage birth-rates then those that restrict the availability of such material, like the dutch for instance. These countries tend to also have more open minded sex-education policies though.
February 5th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
chris: “These countries tend to also have more open minded sex-education policies though.”
Is that really a bad thing?
February 5th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
94. Crimanon
LOL… I hope you´re not referring to Angelina´s reply to my post in 93… Uhm, well, I was going to say I´m a girl also so there´s nothing dirty about a massage but then I figured that is going to make the sordid minds out there crash and burn…
Just to be clear, the only one getting a dirty massage from me is my husband!
February 5th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Cue sappy music… lights… feather thingy…. Action!
February 5th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
A gay friend of mine took a brief venture into the business as an actor, and I rented one of the movies. It is very weird to see someone you know, someone you’ve had over for dinner, who you know to be the gentlest person in the world, playing the part of the aggressor in a prison rape scene. And I had no idea he was so well, um, equipped.
He told me that male actors are hired on the principle that your check doesn’t come unless you do.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
FYI-
given the topic of this list some comments will be ‘moderated’ simply because they contain words previously on the list of ones that automatically put a comment into moderation. no special allowance has been made for this list. so anything that has previously ‘kicked’ comments into moderation, like the word ‘gay’ will continue to do so.
be patient – your comment will be released if it is not spam. you are not being censored. as everyone should be aware of by now…selected words or numbers are automatically ‘moderated’. this is not personal. it is to prevent spam and some adolescent rank claiming comments.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Darn. Hey, Crim, still got your camera?
February 5th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I’ve been in the business for about a year now, its great!
February 5th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
In the original picture of number 10, Queen Victoria is holding a blunt in her hand (to relieve menstrual symptoms).
February 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Let´s not forget that porn has its dark side, too. I am talking about drug use, humiliations, past history of abuse as a child for a lot of performers, lots of suicides, lots of STDs, ties with organized crime (because of its links with drugs, prostitution and money laundering)…
I am not saying it should be forbidden but it´s not all good, clean fun.
I wonder what many of those who seem to think it´s just entertainment would think about some family member or loved one entering this industry.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
MPW: I’ve seen your work. You are still a little green, as they say, but, you are coming along fine.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Angelina: should I get the tripod too?:P
February 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Crim: That might be a good idea.
February 5th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
In 1885, during the reign of Queen Victoria, male homosexuality was outlawed, but female homosexuality was not. The myth, of course, is that Queen Victoria did not believe women would do such things and refused to sign the Labouchere Amendment to the Criminal Law Amendment Act of 1885 until all mention of female homosexuality were removed.
The truth is that Labouchere failed to include any mention of women in the Act. Did Labouchere forget to do so, or was he the one who did not think women could do such things? ;-D
And another one bites the dust!
February 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
lol I love the “hole in the market” lol …anyways lol… I loved the list and I’m so gonna get that book! lol…Also I think porn can be addictive lol but I don’t think it can lead to cheating….well it can, maybe, but it depends onthe person, I mean the fact that you watch porn doesn’t mean you are a cheating jerk…a cheater will cheat even without porn that’s for sure! So lets say that maybe porn is some kind of inspiration for cheaters lol but not the cause of their problem. So…faminist think porn is diminishing for women? Hmmm….well again it depends on the person, I mean no one is telling those girls to get naked and have sex in front of a camara, if they do it it’s mostly because they wanted to, and most of them enjoy being filmed while doing it so …let them be! lol…Also I don’t think guys would look at women like an object or anything just because they watch porn, men might be hairy clumsy beings lol but they are not stupid! They know when a girl loves herself and love them. Of course they do! If a guy is treating a girl badly it’s because he knows she doesn’t loves herself enough to leave the relationship and he knows she is gonna be there to satisfy his obscure and sick desires, it’s not because he watched porn and learned all women are objects! I don’t think a guy like this one in my example is gonna go and get a nice girl who knows her worth, he knows he is gonna get in jail or something if he abuses her, so hey … I don’t think porn is the cause for that. Anyways as for religion….damn I won’t say anything about that, in fact I didn’t know that …well I kinda knew but not the whole story…I guess porn is really bad then…
February 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Howdy all – I’ve been reading your lists for the better part of a year and I haven’t commented yet. I sure do enjoy reading the lists and comments, though!
I just wanted to say that putting the disclaimer “NOTE: This list may be Not Safe For Work. The images are mostly okay but the text is definitely not” on the same page with the NSFW text that you refer to does no good. By the time a reader gets to that point of the page, their Internet content filter at work has already screened the entire page – and this one would surely set off some alarms due to the multiple mentions of many “NSFW” key words.
That’s why I waited until I got home to read! Great list – and hopefully nobody gets fired for reading…
Keep up the great work JF et al…
February 5th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Is porn on the top inventions list?
February 5th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Sashley; Just because a population tends to have a trait doesn’t mean that you have it. And a predisposition to anything doesn’t mean it will affect you. There is such a thing as will, personal restraint etc. I come from a family where alcohol abuse is rampant; I drink only rarely and in moderation. And I have native friends, my kids have native friends, none of whom are alcoholics or otherwise fit the nasty stereotype. Just because I treat folks as individuals doesn’t mean I don’t acknowledge information. And yes I’m sure.
February 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
elartistamadridista, (108),
I speak as one who’s as willing as the next fella to joke lightly about the theme. But. Somebody needed to say that and not care about looking a prude or spoilsport. Well done. It is indeed the obscure side of the coin. Even where the choice in these cases may be free, one should perhaps wonder about the psychological profiles, personal backgrounds of some that make that ‘free’ choice, and other pressures on them. Concern doesn’t mean allying with religious naysayers or dogmatic fundie feminists either. Sure, strong women are indeed making their own decisions, taking control of their bodies and using them to exercise power over men. There probably is lots of fun on mosts sets. But is that the whole picture? Or can we take another aspect away from ‘Boogie Nights’? (Apart from having enjoyed watching a bloody good and at times hilarious film?)
February 5th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
I disagree with #6, I oppose pornography quite strongly, and I am neither religious or a feminist (I’m a guy btw). I just dislike the idea of people getting kicks out of people degrading themselves. I tend to think of the widespread acceptance of pornography as the widespread rejection of respect and decency. I think it brings humans worryingly close to animals. All this and I am a hardcore atheist and a perfectly straight guy. Analyze that lol.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
smurff, (57),
“I believe that even a wee bit of soft porn might rekindle our older citizens sex life.”
You speak for yourself, squire. Only hard-core, viagra-free stuff is good enough for this wrinkly. No fun at all in becoming and old man if you can’t put “dirty” in front of it.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Anon: Can I quote you on that?
February 5th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Anon…r u from Chile?
February 5th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Okay, kutuup. What do you mean by degrade? And what if those involved don’t buy your definition?
With all the legitimate problems with the exploitation of women in the business, which are serious and should be corrected, I think arguments about how “degrading” porn is run onto the rocks when you consider the gay variety, especially for liberals who feel there is no real difference between straight and gay men except for one little detail, who they go to bed with. If so there should be no real difference between straight and gay porn, and this clearly isn’t true.
To be blunt, while women can fake an orgasm for the camera, men can’t, and you know what I mean. The “money shot,” and see my previous comment about when your check comes. Whatever acting and fakery there may be in straight porn, the actors in gay porn are, visually and unmistakably, having a ball. (Sorry.) As men you and I both know that unless a guy’s really into the scene, really enjoying himself, the “money shot” and everything that leads up to it just ain’t gonna happen. You yourself spoke of people “getting kicks” about doing porn, meaning they’re enjoying it, so how are they degrading themselves?
Now, if you personally just find the stuff distasteful, don’t patronize it, and I have no problem. If you want to PREVENT adults from being involved, as actor, producer, or consumer, than I do have a problem.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Woops! I read you too fast, kutuup. You complained of “people getting kicks out of people degrading themselves,” and clearly were referring to the customers/consumer side, not the production side. (Though, at least with guys, they’re undoubtedly on both sides at various times.) Don’t like to be imprecise.
But I think my point still stands.
February 5th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Most of people’s arguments against porn don’t really stand against my favorite kind: Erotic art. All I need is a set of pencils and a devious imagination and I’m set. I make some decent scratch selling prints and commissions, too.
February 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
OmG p0rN! Me liky
February 5th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Bonus Thing You Didn’t Know About Pornography: The women in porn don’t actually want it harder, faster.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Fred: Oh my god… you just tore my world apart. Lol
February 5th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
120. Crimanon
“Anon: Can I quote you on that?”
Depends to whom, in what context, and for what purpose. If you’re going to commercialise it, I want my whack.
Talking of wrinklies. At one time I had a book of pornographic art (yes, post 124) of all eras and nations (no, it didn’t include the entire Karma Sutra!). Doubtless it got loaned out and for some obscure reason beyond my imagination, not returned. Various works by the Great and Good were included. There was a Chinese example of an extremely ancient man receiving what we might call ‘a lot of massed Fluffy help’! You could have called it squeezing the juice out of a shrivelled mandarin I guess. Hahaha.
It reminded of that repulsive news item about Madam Mao, she of the famous Gang of Four fame, procuring 15-year-old virgins on a regular basis for her husbandly Chairman towards the end of his life. With luck they at least helped to shorten it and leave a few unprocured 15-year-olds in peace in China, among other benefits!
February 5th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Steve T., (123),
“But I think my point still stands.”
As the late, great Eric Morecombe used to say (with appropriate knowingly owlish expression): “There’s no answer to that”.
February 5th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Anon: “No fun at all in becoming and old man if you can’t put “dirty” in front of it.” There should be a quotable LV list and That has to be on it.
Am I the only one who wants at least One example of every style/type/theme of porn? With the obvious exclusion of “kiddie” and unstaged violent acts?
And the greatest Movie ever!!!!! http://www.piratesxxx.com/main.php Part two is almost as good maybe even better!!!! If you haven’t seen it, Find it, buy it rent it, borrow it… Just get it!
February 5th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Porn is degrading to women only in the fact that it leaves them open to be judged by their audience.I.e. men ages 13-?. And a woman pornstar can be a feminist too. I wouldn’t be suprised if Ms.Jameson was. I am a feminist, and I can enjoy porn on occasion. I don’t go out of my way to watch it, but I don’t freak out and get preachy when it’s on either. The thing I don’t like about it is the fact that men look at women like they’re meat. I recently heard a guy refer to the women he has slept with his ‘meat’. WTF?? Girls, stand up for yourselves!! Don’t take that kind of crap. And feminism is good. Don’t think prohibition when you hear feminism, thats not what its about. And @ 39- Its so true. I get SO grossed out when my boyfriend masturbates in front of me. Or when I think about him doing it in the shower or something. And @ 64- haha, yeah. nasty. I have an ex that used to try to talk like a guy in a porno. It was bad, I never came cause I was too busy trying to block out the ‘yeah girl’, and ‘you like that shit?’, or ‘Mmmm, yeah, take that d**k’. ect ect. Eeew! haha yeah that relationship did not last. Boys, don’t talk unless it’s appropriatley timed and practiced beforehand. Talking dirty can be fun but don’t get ahead of yourselves, you’ll ruin the moment. blaaahhh awkward sex moments are the WORST. haha.
February 5th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
shut up crimanon!!
February 5th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
I knew almost all of these…sad, i know, but when ones job is in the the middle of nowhere, with almost no women in site for two weeks (the few women who do work up here tend to hide in their rooms when not working) one gets to know the “ins an outs” of the porn industry quite well. Great list though, not what i was expecting to see today…and on that note, time to browse the internet…for…tax…advice.
February 6th, 2009 at 12:12 am
Too raunchy for you, anon who I don’t know? I get the feeling that you are some how uncomfortable with my comfort and can’t articulate exactly what it is that I said that offends you.
Instead of telling me to shut up, how about you just voice your grievances nicely? Why ruin the vibe?
February 6th, 2009 at 12:25 am
Great list! I love learning about sex and pornography.
February 6th, 2009 at 1:14 am
I smell insider information. muhaha!
February 6th, 2009 at 1:38 am
im one of those 13% you pointed out. ;D
February 6th, 2009 at 2:01 am
Melina: Interesting stream of consciousness at the end there. Thanks.
Point taken about women in porn being seen as pieces of meat. But every sexually active adult kind of, you know, likes that to some degree. You want your husband/wife/lover to want your body, don’t you? And maybe you want ….. ? And the last time the two of you were balling you were thinking about ….. ? And there’s the fantasy porn is fueling.
Yes it’s complicated. But one thing you don’t bring into the mix is stupid notions about dignity. Dignity and sex are not compatible, and that’s how people make such fools of themselves, pretending they are. I like the aphorism by Heinlein’s Lazarus Long:
“A true lady takes off her dignity with her clothes, and does her whorish best.”
That’s something that, man or woman, you can try to live by. I sure do.
February 6th, 2009 at 4:32 am
haha good catch
February 6th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Thanks to #1, I finally get what the director was implying in the “Brian Goes to Hollywood” episode of Family Guy.
February 6th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Hey, now, I resent being tagged as anti-porn just because I’m a feminist. There are feminists who are porn-positive – I’m one. You just don’t hear about them because the Catherine McKinnons in this world have louder voices.
February 6th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Anon (128)
“…You could have called it squeezing the juice out of a shrivelled mandarin I guess. Hahaha.”
LOL… That almost made the watermelon I´m having for breakfast shoot out of my nose!
On a side note, Cyn or anyone, do you think we can clean up 142 – 144? These type of posts always put me in a foul mood…
*done
Cyn
February 6th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Do yout free movie are vacancy for male to shoot pornography pictures
February 6th, 2009 at 8:51 am
to me porn is more of a “meh” than anything else. i can enjoy it on occasions, but i wont ever go out of my way to watch it. my girlfriend has some big issues about porn, not religious or feministic ones, but she claims that me watching it lowers her self-esteem, though i cant stress it to her enough that, for all intents and purposes, to me she is perfect. good thing for me then that i dont really care that much for it.
and is a porn a movie really more expensive in a hotel than a regular one? seems kind of strange considering people usually finnish the regular movies.
and to all those who claim to be feminists and to like porn: i always had my mind set about feminists and feminism, but cant you explain in what ways you, as a feminist, differ from a non-feminist? i would be quite interested to hear that.
February 6th, 2009 at 10:42 am
The use of pornography as a sexual outlet has proven itself to be a safe and healthy alternative to, say, rape, prostitution, or just plain not getting any. Yay for porn!
February 6th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Yay! I wouldn’t be alive right now without it. High school Sucked! With out Porn I would have gone insane, it seemed to be the only thing I could really focus on.
While every one else was curling up to a good movie, I snuggled with my favorite “text”!
Well said NickChuck, “Yay for porn!”
February 6th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Wow, Crim. You must really like this list!
February 6th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Stevt T- Your welcome. And on the dignified side of things, I don’t remember saying anything about sex and dignity, because, like you just said, it is not comparable. The witticism is funny, and I do agree with it. It’s ALL about the woman when the lights are out and the clothes come off.
The-Horned-God- Your girlfriend is probably a feminist and doesn’t know it. It’s just that people have these preconceived notions about feminists being unattractive, lesbians, and/or old & wrinkly. (Not to be sexist, but I believe males threatened by women with power are the cause of such nonsense.) Feminism is about equality in social, intellectual, and financial aspects of soceity. For example, a female and male work on an assembly line, making toys for children lets say. Now, the female makes about 68 cents to every dollar that man makes for the SAME WORK! Why, you ask? Feminists ask that same question, whereas the ‘non-feminist’ is fine with it. Or at international math competitions, you won’t see many females on a team representing their country, because it’s believed that men are better than women at mathematics, which is as ridiculous as saying the world is flat. ANYONE, woman or man, can excel at anything, with pratice. A non-feminist may not agree, she may think that men are better at math. In time, I believe we will be seen as equal to men. In reality, we are, but guys just need that comfort blanket, knowing that they are the sole provider or bread winner or their wife/child/family cannot survive without them. It may be disturbing to them to think that may not be true.
February 6th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
stellar list!! and speaking as a woman, i love watching porn. i’ve watched it with boyfriends and by myself. i’m not into anything crazy, just guy/girl stuff, but i find it can be quite a turn on…
go team Porn!
February 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
I understand Melina’s point about equality in social, intellectual and financial arenas being the *main* point of “Feminism.” I think most people would agree with that women and men should be treated equally. However, my problem with feminism as a movement is that it isn’t cohesive at all. Even with the the differences between first, second, third, whatever waves set aside, it is nearly impossible to define feminism. Coming from Eugene Oregon, which has quite a large number of activism-minded people, I’ve seen discussions of feminism break down into convoluted arguments about “eco-feminism” and how being vegetarian is feminist.
Notions of equality exist without feminism. If it weren’t for the feminist movement, women wouldn’t be treated as equals in western society, and often still aren’t, etc… However I don’t call myself a feminist because it is as meaningless as saying I’m a libertarian, without a whole bunch of justification as to what I actually mean.
The topic of porn is interesting because as someone else said, it isn’t all positive or negative. Some of its fun and sexy, and some of it is downright awful and purposely demeaning. I think most people without an agenda would agree.
February 6th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Angelina: It goes along with my thoughts on nudity, personal choices, and total enjoyment of life and the human form (without enjoying the human form, you can’t enjoy the entirety of life).
A good adult flick is nothing more in my mind than an erotic novel for men. Since we aren’t as thought stimulated. Porn should be if done correctly a piece of art. To be taken in, thought of and relished for it’s hedonistic glory.
It’s not so much the List that I like, it’s the ideas of a more liberated freedom of expression.
February 6th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
The Catholic church says its a grave offense, but yet they tolerate and condone the molestation of innocent children every day instead of removing those men like they should be removed.
February 6th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Crim: Oh, I just thought you liked boobs a lot. Sorry! My bad!
February 6th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Now that my wife isn’t in the apartment I can read this list and the comments. Most people have already covered the points I would make. Congrats on the generally respectful tone of the discussion, everyone.
Jamie has never confirmed or denied the existence of a significant other in his life. I was imagining the scene in the jf/other household:
other: Hi, honey, I’m home. What are you doing?
jf: Hi, sweetie. I’m just – er – well – um – researching – um – pornography for a LU list.
other: Yeah, right!
I yearn the existence or easy findability of what you might call “classy porn”. There’s so much trash out there.
I can report that Korean porn is very tame.
February 6th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
I like reading your lists and pass this web-site to others. Thank you for just “listing” the facts without using the porn pictures. My first visit to your site I went to read about tatoo’s and it surprised me and still haunts me. I did hear a fact some years ago that not all men who view porn become rapists but most rapists did view porn.
February 6th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Angel: Well Duh! Boobs Rock!
Astraya: Pin-ups 2 maybe good for you then, if you are looking for something classy. Black and white film, Corsets, light bondage (it’s almost laughable). if you can make it past the boob punching without laughing again, you find out that it makes a pretty nice art flick.
I can’t find a good review, but it’s all over torrent, so it’s there to download.
February 6th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Googles Jenna Jameson. lol
February 7th, 2009 at 1:45 am
porn is inevitable,but control …..nehi hota
February 7th, 2009 at 8:28 am
oh how i love porn
February 7th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
158. tulda: porn is inevitable,but control …..nehi hota
****
I always preferred nehi orange.
February 7th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Fact number 9 is not true.
X rated Porn is accessible in all states through so many different stores.
I also noted one of the comments stating that it is illegal to access porn sites here… Im sure that isn’t true either.
The law with pornography in Oz is that, you can only make pornography movies for public sale in the A.C.T, our Nations Capital.
Video rental stores like blockbuster for example cannot rent out X rated, only R rated. However X rated Adult stores that sell XXX dvd’s, toys, costumes etc etc are all over and even Franchise stores have exploded and popping up everywhere just like McDonalds.
February 7th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Nice & funny list
February 7th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Not quite sure what brought it to mind, but I remember those at school who knew telling the rest that the biggest erotic put-off in the world was watching a load of people of all shapes, sizes and ages capering around in the buff in a naturist (or nudist) colony. (That word ‘colony’ is so wonderfully archaic in the context, like – an ant colony!)
February 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
163. Anon: That was something I always thought about; big, fat, hairy old men, and exceedingly plump, saggy, blue-haired ladies cavorting about just as God made them, and not embarrassed at all!
I was once at a nudist camp, but not in the nudist part, and I was mortified. Everyone acted as if they had the finest body ever to grace the earth, and everyone of them was sadly mistaken. It was a horrid 3 days ( we were on a shoot, and needed the background, not the bodies).
February 7th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
On #7,
I would not rely on rape statistics from Japan. Many Japanese women would never report being raped because people look down on rape victims. And going to the police can be very traumatising because the victims must often go back to the scene of the crime and have their pictures taken while they act out the rape with a police officer.
Also, I don’t think pornography itself is bad, there have been images of sex in Japanese artwork for centuries, but the attitude in modern Japan is not healthy: Most people will not talk about sex at all and married couples have sex much less often than in other countries. But there is a lot of pornography with children and a lot of it revolves around rape of young girls and violence.
I think modern attitudes come from the conflicts with bringing Western Christianity to Japan. Before then there was pornography and sex but it was not considered shameful in itself, but after the Westernisation movement in the 19th century, people began to believe that sexual thoughts could be evil (because Christian philosophy then looked down on sexuality). I think people developed a complex about pornography, and now they think it has to be especially violent or disturbing because it is their little daily opportunity to be bad for a while before they go back to being uptight and not having actual sex.
February 7th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Nicely made list – didn’t know about number 1, so that was interesting. Though I have to say – like many others commenting on this list – that to state that feminists find porn degrading to women is a huge generalization… I consider myself a feminist and enjoy some porn, like many other women and men. Apart from that, this list is really well researched.
Btw: I live in Canberra, Australia. Any comedian I’ve seen here inevitably makes jokes about the availability of porn and fireworks. Plus I find it ever amusing that you can stand outside a xxx strip joint in the middle of the city – and clearly see the (new) Parliament House.
February 9th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
I need to correct you on number 7, big time. While it may be true that Japan’s statistics do not show a high number of incidences, that does not mean they do not exist. How are they collecting the data? Based on convictions? Allegations? Surveys?
It’s a matter of fact that women are regularly groped in trains and subways in Japan – it’s so much of an issue that some major lines now offer women-only cars. None of this shows up in “official” statistics, it’s completely under the radar. Sexual harassment in the workplace is no shocker either. It’s way to comfy to just say, “hey look, Japan has lots of porn and no sex crimes!” But that’s really not the case. Not surprisingly, groping is a subject found in japanese porn as well.
February 9th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Oh and Naomi you are painfully wrong about Christianity influencing Japan. Christianity has virtually no influence on Japanese society outside of symbolism and loose traditions. Japan’s taste for the sadistic and perverted goes much deeper than that, and I really don’t know enough to explain it. If Christianity made people want to watch little children being raped by tentacle monsters, then the logical assumption would be America would be the leader in it (since America is far more influence by Christian ethics than Japan). Also virtually every culture has some sexual taboos, not just Christian ones…..
It is my opinion that Japanese culture is very emotionally repressive and alienating, and this somehow translates into bizarre fetishes. Also strict gender roles result in extreme exaggerations of female submissions.
Also as an example, Dream of the Fisherman’s Wife was made in Japan in 1820..hard to say it was the result of Christianity’s influence.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
As a feminist, I must defend my beliefs — third-wave feminism is characterized by sex-positiveness and porn is pretty accepted. I personally think there’s nothing wrong with porn, though there are a few that ARE demeaning to women (ex: Deep Throat, because it was actually rape).
The whole point of feminism is that women should have choices to do whatever they want and not be judged for it any worse than men, and this includes having sex and participating in pornography.
February 10th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Josh, (167 & 168),
Thanks for your thoughtful and intersting ‘psychologicl profile’ of aspects of Japanese society.
February 10th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
JFRAT – great subject
On “The richest porn star is Jenna Jameson who recently sold her $30 million club to Playboy for an undisclosed sum.”
Anyone familiar with these things knows of Jenna’s success.
Anyone out there got an idea what that “undisclosed sum” might have been?
I mean she had her web empire, a publishing/production company with contract girls, extensive merchandizing , and much more.
It had to be millions – just curious.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:27 am
I absolutely agree with #7.
“countries with the easiest access to hardcore pornography also have the lowest sex-crime rates in the world”
The reason is quite simple. Sex is a basic instinct of a human irrespective of the gender. Sexual desires are characteristics of the sex harmones and are not to be treated as an abnormal psychological disorder. Pornography basically yields big relaxation psychologically like an evening beach walk. Its the right of every h uman to enjoy it WITHIN GOOD LIMITS.
February 11th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
hi i think this list is ummm …. strange, and btw jfrater, how can i message u with out others reading it, coz i have a question about one of ur other lists, the one titles top 10 ways to commit suicide. plz tell me how i can email u, thanks, Dave
February 11th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
http://www.citizenlink.org/turnsignal/A000009143.cfm
February 11th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
“If, however, you are willing to do gay porn, there is a huge hole in the market and you will find that unless you are incredibly hideous, your opportunities are huge. But back to straight porn.”
That just made my day, jfrater!
February 12th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
I feel so immature whenever I hear the term ‘fluffer’ I giggle like a little kid. Always have since I found out what it was.
February 12th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I think pornography is going to be much more easily accessible (as if it weren’t already!) now that that liar Obama is president.
February 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
And more prvalent to all the little pervs.
February 12th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
OOPS–I meant: And much more prevalent than it is for all the little pervs.
February 12th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
WeAreJulius: I didn’t vote for him Either, but I’m not talking trash. Stick to subject, please. Porn Not Politics.
February 12th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
How did I know you would have the latest comment, Crim???
February 12th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Psychic maybe? It’s just so far off topic that even I would say something, that’s pretty bad. Boobs! Nakieness! Top ten things you didn’t know about porn!
February 12th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
I vote that any list containing statistics should cite its sources. 13% of women viewing porn from work? Really? I’d believe 13% view porn period, but I don’t believe that 13% of women are stupid enough to do it from work… unless they edit porn for a living.
February 12th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
for nelia (no. 23) i travelled thru aus. its banned in some townships (along with alcohol) cos abos were gettin drunk and raping their own family members
February 12th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
christ! I can smell the racism from America! Put The Politics Away!
February 12th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
redser: How is that any different than anywhere else? There are screwed up people everywhere! Alabama, South Carolina, West Virginia (just three from the USA that I’ll use). Reports of Incest from Sweden, Norway, Russia, China, What makes you so special that you can say something So Profane that you can piss of one of the biggest foul mouths on this site?
I’d love to knock your teeth out.
February 22nd, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Umm…
You know what? Today I got dumped, my best friend fell out with me, and we ran out of beer.
But this made me smile. I’m happy
You know why?
I LIKE PORN
Actually I’m still pretty pissed off
March 1st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
to the first two ppls: no one would comment at 2:30 am in the morning
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 am
188. kims – March 1st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
****
So, kims, did you post at 10:47 pm?
I believe jfrater uses GMT as his time stamp…I could be wayyyyy off, but it only makes sense to have everyone on a single time as to posting time is concerned.
March 23rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
#46 Rob S…
“The respondent who wrote that the gas station which sold beer, porn and fireworks is the most visited business in town reminded me of the dream my college roommate and I had.
To open a Live Bait and Porn Shoppe when we retired.
Why live bait and porn? Because sometimes the fish just aren’t biting.”
Sorry I can’t help myself…Would you have named your store Master Baiters?
April 10th, 2009 at 3:11 am
“A good example of this is Japan where a study in 1995 found: “[s]ex crimes in every category, from rape to public indecency, sexual offenses from both ends of the criminal spectrum, significantly decreased in incidence.”
Let’s see:
“Currently, Japan and Russia are the only G8 countries in which it is still legal to own pornographic images of children provided they do not intend to sell them or post them on the internet.
Japan is one of the world’s biggest suppliers of child pornography and the second biggest consumer after the US, despite a 1999 law that banned the production, sale and distribution of images of children under 18.”
1999!!!
I don’t take the numbers of sex offenses in Japan too seriously, considering how many aren’t even reported in European countries or the US. Japanese women reporting rapes…
April 10th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
#7- There is probably less sex crime because the porn provides an outlet for violent sexual aggression. With regards to rape not being reported, the number of unreported sex crimes will probably be the same in most industrialized countries, and additionally, Japan still has something like 1/2000th the rape rate of the U.S.
April 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
This site is just so damm fine What will they think of next? Keep it coming JF
April 26th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
“I did read a study once that stated that 95% of men masturbate and the other 5% are lying and 100% of women thought that was gross.”
Honey, I hate to blow your mind, but…
May 30th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
@ Cory
nice shop ya got there 
lol @ I4gotmyMantra, if thats true then it should be 99.99% cos i know a few girls who find it hot that i do that
June 22nd, 2009 at 3:36 am
OMG.
No, really…
June 22nd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
“Most significantly, despite the wide increase in availability of pornography to children, not only was there a decrease in sex crimes with juveniles as victims but the number of juvenile offenders also decreased significantly.”
um…I think the point you missed is that little kids have access to porn. That in and of itself is not a good thing.
Also, the online child pornography crime syndicate is f**king HUGE! and both disgusting, illegal and harmful to children. Is that taken into account in your lowered crime rates stats?
Also we “crazy” feminists going on about the evil of the porn industry, taking issue with the way women are being depicted in these videos, have some good points. We would need to be shown in a much better light to even reach the status of “objectified”. And it’s not sexual violence there is a correlation to, but dysfunction in relationships. Many studies have proven that the more porn a man watches the less satisfied he is with his partners. The less willing hhe is to make an effort to connect with a real woman, when sexual gratification is so easy to achieve.
This could have been an interesting list, but it felt far to slanted in the Pro-Porn direction. It’s not all happy endings and money shots.
June 22nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
…. Only in two states huh?
Wich is why SA has tons of sex shops that sell this material… Or is the law just letting us off?
Get some better facts.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:02 am
porn is good
August 1st, 2009 at 5:12 am
Earn money till death is today’s philosophy of life.
Earning in honest way is not encouraged now.There will
be always difference between the rich man BIL GATES
and top rich owner of porn industry.
prostitution and political profession are two oldest
profession and both resembles each other. If one gets
honored,why other not? Digital camera,various drugs and
modern technology turn pornography to best commercial level.
Here porn stars are paid by studio.There are directors and
producers(owners) in porn industry. people watch porn in mobile,computer,t.v.,books,movies,videos etc. for a part time.
,not for 24hrs.It is a regret that HIV education is not encouraged in porn industry!
August 21st, 2009 at 6:07 pm
I just want ot start by saying that My girlfriend and I view a lot of porn(sometimes together, sometimes not), and are very much in love. Porn is like anything else that is mass-produced; there is good and bad. Good porn can stimulate and give us really fun ideas; bad porn just makes us laugh(or vomit).
September 7th, 2009 at 11:07 am
As they say on Avenue Q : The internet is really really great….. FOR PORN!
September 9th, 2009 at 10:52 am
i love how nobody is the least bit bothered by the sickening sicko porn spread widely all over the internet.
*awaits the “prude” comments. *yawn.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:06 am
F*ck porn.