The impact of the Beatles has often been noted but cannot be overstated. The “Fab Four” from Liverpool, England, startled the ears and energized the lives of virtually all who heard them. Their arrival triggered the musical revolution of the Sixties, introducing a modern sound and viewpoint that parted ways with the world of the previous decade. This list looks at ten examples of a Beatles song changing someone’s life. Obviously, this is a subjective list, but I’ve gone for performances where there is documented evidence that someone’s life has been changed because of a particular performance. Has a Beatles song changed your life? If so, tell us in the comments.
Influenced: EMI
It’s slightly odd starting with the Beatles last album, but it’s also a slightly odd influence; Abbey Road studios is named after the Abbey Road album, not the other way around. When the Beatles recorded there, it was the EMI London Recording Studio. The name was changed (and a zebra crossing logo developed) after the album was released, Abbey Road suddenly became the most famous recording studio in the world. Staff members became celebrities when people found out they worked there.
Influenced: Jeff Lynne and ELO
The first song to be recorded after the Beatles stopped touring and approached with the attitude that they were going to get it right – there was to be no compromise. The final recording is actually two different versions of the song edited together; thanks to heroic efforts by George Martin. Lennon was still dissatisfied – but he didn’t like most of his recordings.
The influence of this song was actually a few years later. In 1971, Jeff Lynne formed the Electric Light Orchestra with the intention of picking up from Strawberry Fields Forever; mixing traditional rock band instruments with classical instruments.
Influenced: Mick Jagger and Keith Richards
As Paul has openly admitted, this was not one of their better songs. It was given to Ringo as his contribution to With The Beatles. However, its biggest influence was when Mick Jagger told Lennon & McCartney they needed a follow-up to their first hit single. At that time, the Rolling Stones were a cover band – they didn’t write their own material. Legend has it that John & Paul disappeared for 15 minutes and returned with I Wanna be Your Man. It made Jagger and Keith Richards realise that writing their own songs was possible.
Influenced: Brian Wilson
Brian Wilson was “knocked out” by the Beatles album Rubber Soul; as he put it – each track “was a gas”. As a response he produced Pet Sounds. It was as a response to Pet Sounds that the Beatles produced Sgt Pepper. Paul McCartney has acknowledged that there was a definite feeling of competition between The Beatles and the Beach Boys. The clip is Norwegian Wood – my favorite track from the album.
George Martin recalled that when they listened to Pet Sounds, the Beatles asked “Can we do something as good as this?” Martin replied, “No. We can do better.”
Influenced: The Beatles and the USA
I Wanna Hold Your Hand changed the life of the Beatles; it was their first number one in America. As George Martin has pointed out, they had tremendous difficulties getting records released in the USA. EMI actually owned Columbia Records, and Columbia still wouldn’t release Beatle singles – the early singles were released on tiny labels (Swann comes to mind) in the USA. It was partly the successful sales of these singles that forced Columbia to release Beatle singles. I Wanna Hold Your Hand was a huge hit in the USA just as the Beatles arrived for their first US tour. Their timing, as ever, was perfect.
Influenced: EMI Staff at Abbey Road
This was a performance that amazed EMI staff. People working on the Beatles session have memories of playing the tape to staff members the next day and saying “Wait until you hear this!” Within EMI, it was realized that something special was happening. George Harrison recalled attitudes changing towards the band between their first visits to Abbey Road (to record their first singles) and after they’d had a hit – and recorded Twist and Shout.
Twist and Shout was recorded at the end of a single day in which the entire first LP (album in American) was recorded. EMI would only give them a day’s studio time, it was winter and the band had colds – Lennon’s was particularly bad. What makes Twist and Shout all the more remarkable is that it was recorded in one take and as a “live” recording – there was no overdubbing possible in those days.
George Martin did record a second take, but Lennon’s voice had gone so it was the first take that was used.
Influenced: Pop Musicians Everywhere
Tomorrow Never Knows was the first Beatles track to use artificial double tracking (ADT). In fact, it was almost certainly the first track anywhere to deliberately use the effect. Double tracked vocals (where the singer sings the same part twice) became popular when 4 track recording arrived – quite late at Abbey Road, around 1964. Lennon, in particular, didn’t like singing the same thing twice – it was obviously important that exactly the same words and phrasing were used, making such sessions tedious and tiring.
With this in mind, Ken Townsend – EMI engineer “had an idea” driving home after such a session. The singer would sing the part once, and then a copy made and played along side the original with a slight, varying delay – the affect was double tracked vocals without having to sing the part twice. Lennon loved the effect but not being in the least bit technical, had no chance of understanding the technique involved. George Martin gave him a pseudoscientific explanation (“There’s feedback on the sploshing flange”) and after that, Lennon started calling the affect “Ken’s Flanger” and said in interview that “Every track on Sgt Pepper had flanging, it’s great!”
To this day, the effect is called flanging – some people claim that it is named after pressing the flange wheel on a reel to reel tape deck, but if you tried that on a professional tape deck, you’d lose a finger!
Influenced: George Martin and Dick James
After recording Please, Please Me, Martin was able to tell the Beatles, “Congratulations Gentlemen, you have recorded your first number one”. A big moment for the Beatles, but also for George Martin himself.
George Martin was known as a producer of comedy and novelty records. His highest placed record, before Please, Please Me was Love Me Do – but that only reached number 17. Before that his only “hit” had been the Robin Hood theme tune, sung by Dick James. So, when Please, Please Me was being recorded Martin was the most junior producer in EMI (he was the youngest, and Parlophone, Martin’s label, was the smallest). A year later, he was one of the most famous producers in the world.
The aforementioned Dick James became a music publisher when baldness ended his singing career. He had given a song (How Do You Do It?) to George Martin for the Beatles, which the Beatles hated. The Beatles offered up Please, Please Me instead. George Martin, to his credit, let them record their own song. Dick James recalled getting a phone call from Martin which started “You know that song the Beatles *were* going to release?”
There is a happy ending for Dick James, he offered to publish Please, Please Me and became the Beatles song publisher – forming Northern Songs especially for the band.
Influenced: George Harrison – and more or less everyone
Raunchy was never released by the Beatles but it was George Harrison’s audition piece which got him into the Beatles and performed at Paul’s prompting to John on top of a Liverpool bus. According to Paul, George’s guitar work was “perfect”. George was three years younger than John; you can imagine John’s attitude (being nearly 18) to a 14 year old wanting to join the band. George must have been pretty good!
Influenced: John, Paul, George and Ringo and pretty much everyone since.
Never recorded by the Beatles, this was the song that Paul played to John when they first met at a garden fête where John was performing with his band (The Quarrymen). John was so impressed he asked Paul to join the band the next day: he delayed because he was trying to reconcile strengthening the band with the weakening of his own position as band leader and the fact that Paul was two years his junior. Finally, he decided that the improvement to the band was most important.
In fairness, the surviving members of the Quarrymen can’t remember what Paul sang – John couldn’t remember as he was somewhat drunk at the time (despite being 4 years under age). However, if the story is true, Paul performing Twenty Flight Rock might be the most influential performance in pop history.












April 26th, 2009 at 1:36 am
Oh noes! I can’t help myself. I think Led Zeppelin were *way* better than the Beatles… I could never get into them.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Look, if you’re going to tell us that you like Led Zeppelin more than the Beatles, post that comment on a list relating to Led Zeppelin.
We’re talking about the Beatles, stick with the subject matter!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Nice list.@ Mark,even though both band are from same genre,i wont compare em as both are best at what they did.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:48 am
ROFLMAO!!! Oddball I was joking take a chill pill bro… You reacted exactly the way a real troll would want you to, I apologize for baiting you.
But c’mon people, it is hilarious when you get The Beats vs The Zeps, and it was going to happen sometime… I just… Sped up the proccess
April 26th, 2009 at 1:50 am
BEATLES CAN SOCK MY BALLS……
April 26th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Lol at mark
I don’t know which is better honestly
April 26th, 2009 at 1:52 am
5. PUGGET : Well someone seems to share my view on the subject…
6. Mahboi : Thank you, that’s all I wanted, some laughs. Not the anti-troll patrol
April 26th, 2009 at 1:53 am
I was so tempted to mention led zep in the list
April 26th, 2009 at 1:54 am
8. jfrater : Well now you don’t have to bother, you’re welcome
(dont’ worry, we both know who’s better)
April 26th, 2009 at 1:55 am
It’s a shame Cochran died so young.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:47 am
“startled the ears and energized the lifes of virtually all who heard them”
i can never say otherwise
April 26th, 2009 at 2:59 am
The beatles were ok nothing to get excited about I don’t think they deserve a whole list about them there’s other groups that are way better than them
April 26th, 2009 at 3:05 am
“Strawberry Fields Forever” also influenced the Neopets Team to name a paint brush after it.
Sorry. I’m a Neofreak.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:14 am
I think people miss the point.
They were the band who started the British Invasion in the 60’s, without them you’d never have had the Stones (who in turn influenced bands like Aerosmith, etc etc)
It all started with them, so whether you really like them or not, their influence is undeniable.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:18 am
wow zep over the beatles? Dont deserve their own list? Ouch. So much influence derived from this band. Everything you hear now has page taken from the beatles book. I love zeppelin, but they are not even in the same era. If you havent got into them at all, just buy revolver, then rubber soul (in either order), get sgt peppers, white album, abbey road, magic mystery tour, i mean there are an arsenal of songs that can melt your brain.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:22 am
The Beatles ROCKED!! As did Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:24 am
Excellent list, dedicated to the best band of all time.
Led Zepp? Just a Who wannabe.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:29 am
15. surly : Yeah… That latest Cannibal Corpse album reminded me of The White Album, I was actually going to go back to the record store and ask them for a refund. I mean, The Beatles started everything right, why bother with all this crap today?
17. byjimini : BWAHAHA! Listen to Zeppelin and then listen to The Who – in that order – and then do the reverse, I think you’ll change your mind.
April 26th, 2009 at 3:38 am
I live in Liverpool – just a ten minute walk from John Lennon’s old house, and I drink in the Cavern Club regularly.
But there is still some facts in this list even I didn’t know!
Great list, thanks..
April 26th, 2009 at 3:49 am
Can’t deny their influence, but I HATE their music.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Pugget: Sock? Like punch?
April 26th, 2009 at 4:27 am
21. Wolfe : No, I think he meant “*suck* my balls”, like fellate.
I mean, have you seen those sexy beasts? Who wouldn’t want a BJ from Paul… Whoops! Did I let that one slip?
April 26th, 2009 at 4:36 am
The best band ever. Any person who isn’t ignorant to their influencial music and style would agree.
Also, it’s “The Beatles.” Not “the Beatles.”
April 26th, 2009 at 4:41 am
WTF how the @#$% did you get punch from sock?
i will make a small flow chart for you.. YAY
sock>>>suck>>>SUCK MY BALLS>>>Beatles music is so outrageously awfull it makes me cry… you get the picture…
i think i speak for many people when i say, can you just go crawl up into a corner wear nobody care’s and die, i’m sure it will save someone the effort…
April 26th, 2009 at 4:43 am
it’s “the beatles” because nobody gives a shit about them!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 4:46 am
FUUUUUUCCCKK TTTHHHHE POOOLIICEEEEE!!!!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 5:13 am
apepper, I am very impressed with the list, and I feel sad for the pre-teens who feel obligated to act their ages in the comments this morning. E-baum and/or Disney.com must have been down or something.
I always try to tell people how easy it is to hear John’s stopped up nose during Twist and Shout, but you’re the first to back me up on that, so thank you.
Also, I lost a trivia question a few weeks ago when I gave the correct answer about the proper name of “Abbey Road Studios.” The MC didn’t realize it wasn’t always called Abbey Road Studios.
Well done!
April 26th, 2009 at 5:13 am
Which band stole more music? The Beatles or Led Zeppelin?
April 26th, 2009 at 5:21 am
27. warrrreagl : Lol, pre-teen, if only you knew…
28. ronsantohof : “Stole” is a crappy word, given the context. All bands take musical influence from one place or another, some may show it more, but that’s a long shot from “stealing”.
April 26th, 2009 at 5:25 am
LOL, people dont care about who stole what music, atleast it sounds have decent compared to that shit the beatles called music.
April 26th, 2009 at 5:25 am
I just read an article from the times that claims McCartney swore while recording Hey Jude and it can still be heard on the released version. Here’s the article
http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2009/04/having-read-a-huge-amount-about-the-beatles-i-thought-i-pretty-much-knew-all-the-quirks-in-their-recordings-how-wrong-i-was.html
April 26th, 2009 at 5:35 am
yeah.. umm NO ONE CARES
April 26th, 2009 at 5:50 am
The beatles were amazing! what is wrong with you people!? PUGGET- jealous at all?
April 26th, 2009 at 5:57 am
the beatles were amazing… for real???
yep you keep telling yourself that..
April 26th, 2009 at 5:57 am
I’m going to assume here that all the people that hate The Beatles and are voicing their “opinions” are either A) High on drugs or B) Arguing for the sake of arguing, but they are secretly infatuated with The Beatles.
But that’s just me.
Hey Jude, A Day In the Life, Across the Universe all change my attitude around, and as a result,changes my whole day for the better.
April 26th, 2009 at 6:03 am
The Beatles are like Bob Marley to me – I know how influential they’ve been, but I seriously can’t stand listening to their music as it’s utter crap. Someone tell the bars in Pham Ngu Lao in Saigon to stop playing their songs over and over, please? Thanks!
April 26th, 2009 at 6:09 am
There´s a story of John Lennon sitting in a bar, listening to The Kinks´`Wonderboy´over and over again. Amazed at what he was hearing. And Paul McCartney telling Ray Davies that “I should have written Waterloo Sunset.”
Therefore, The Kinks dump all over the Beatles! The only thing the Beatles did right was breaking up.
Give me Village Green Preservation Society over Sgt Pepper´s any day.
April 26th, 2009 at 6:19 am
the beatles and the others, yeah mcartney, um, mother mother, older giraffe, cool
April 26th, 2009 at 6:28 am
I’d have to say ‘Within You, Without You’ influenced me spiritually. I have an ohm tattoo’d on my arm, in memory of George.
April 26th, 2009 at 6:42 am
It was Capitol records that initially resisted releasing the Beatles, not Columbia
April 26th, 2009 at 6:47 am
seriously…wtf is wrong with people anyways…if i want too listen to the beatles, ill listen to the beatles…when i feel like a little zep, they get played….its not about whom is better than whom(beatles and zep dont sound the same anyways)..its about all the diverse music there is for us to listen to…people are so narrow- minded as to which band is better…if it makes any of you feel better my favourite album is “III side to every story” by extreme..peace
April 26th, 2009 at 7:18 am
lol all these trollz.
failfailfail
April 26th, 2009 at 8:07 am
I just can’t stand them, sorry, I”ve never could, I never will
I tried really hard to like their music when I was 20, but I just can’t
April 26th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Great and infromative list. Too bad the troll PUGGET had to show up. Beatles songs are wonderful and I have many on my ipod, including those listed above. Good job, apepper!
Mark…nice try but you know that Pink Floyd beats Zepplin…haven’t I told you this?
April 26th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Kind of wondering why all the chisel-heads come out of the woodwork whenever there’s a Beatle list posted.
Look, no one is saying you MUST like the Beatles. I personally feel kind of sorry for you for not getting into them, but ok, fine. Life’s full of that kind of subjectivity. But saying they’re worthless, untalented hacks who didn’t accomplish anything is equivalent to saying Michael Jordan can’t dribble or you think Paris Hilton is a great actress. Not only is it stupid and ridiculous, it’s utterly false. You might as well say Mozart sucked and Picasso painted big piles of steamy crap.
Just calm down and pull up your pants. You’re just showing your ass when you say that kind of ignorant crap. Do you really think the Beatles sucked? Well friend you might as well turn off your radio, iPod, MP3 Player, Reel to Reel, turntable, 8 Track or whatever you use to listen to music with because their influence can be found not only in the music, but in recording techniques, production, marketing, culture and music videos. Whatever nondescript band you think ‘rules’ will be forgotten 5 years from now and we’ll still be talking about the Beatles 100 years from now.
It’s an undeniable fact.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:50 am
45. bucslim: Well said.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:00 am
why do people always get into a fight between two legendary bands i mean beatles are pop rock and led zeppelin was a complete diferent genre
April 26th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Interesting and informative, apepper.
Not a criticism here, but one notable omission I would’ve liked to see listed is “Helter Skelter”. In fact, the entire White Album played a part in it, but Helter Skelter in particular formed the basis of Charlie Manson’s twisted ideology, and many lives were horrifically changed as a result of that.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:28 am
I adore the beatles! They really somehow were always able to make music that captured all that i love about music in all their songs. And not just as a band. I love George and Paul and John as solo artists as well. The universe came together to get the best musicians together for one glorious band.
P.S. I am a HUGE Zep fan and that does not take away from my love for the beatles at all. Apples and Oranges people.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:45 am
abbey road wasnt the beatles last album, let it be was
April 26th, 2009 at 10:17 am
that wasn’t when it happened. i wasn’t there, but i read about it, from what i was told, apparently they all did.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am
The moment I saw the title of this list I knew that there would be copious amounts of trolling and Beatles bashing. I was all prepared to have to defend not only their greatness but also their influence and then bucslim came along and ruined my plans.
Darn you bucslim, you will pay for your well written response.
One another note not only do I simply love The Beatles and all they have done but my favorite artist, Elliott Smith, names them as his biggest influence.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I love the music of The Beatles. It’s great, it’s fabulous. However, I hate them. OMG they have the most annoying vocal chords. UGH. Give me a cover any day.
April 26th, 2009 at 10:51 am
I don´t think the beatles suck, (Lennon´s work especially is brilliant) but I do feel they are idolised and revered way too much. Their early success paved the way for their future freedoms and I believe that many bands with the same freedom (and Sir George Martin) could have achieved similar feats. And their breaking up allowed them to leave an untarnished ouvre. The same can´t be said of the Kinks, The Who, The Stones or the Beach Boys.
But, what would/could have happened if the Kinks hadn´t been blacklisted from the US?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Thanks for the comments;
I’m not surprised there’s a bit of “Beatle bashing”, but I deliberately tried to stick to documented influences – where people have said (effectively) “because of this Beatles’ performance, my life changed” – whether someone thinks that was a good or bad performance is really irrelevant to the list. Although I think the performance of Twist and Shout was really remarkable; Long Tall Sally (sung by Paul) is a similar one take performance that few bands could match.
I don’t have a strong opinion about whether it should be “The Beatles” or “the Beatles”, but the band’s contemporary press releases refer to “the Beatles”, so I tend to use that convention as, I presume, that’s what the band preferred.
-Andrew
April 26th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I don’t get how some people seem to pick ONE band or genre of music and dismiss all others as inconsequential or bad.
The Beatles are fantastic, and they are loved by so many other great artists – look at how many covers of their songes exist, how many movies are inspired by bylines of their stories. But loving their music doesn’t take away from the music of the other merseybeat artists, or other 60’s English mod artist, or other 60’s artist.
trivia questions: (please don’t look them up – defeats the purpose)
1. What song do both The Beatles and the Marx brothers sing?
2. What is the link beween The Beatles and Death Cab For Cutie?
April 26th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I thought there might be a complaint about “Abbey Road” not being their last album; it was their last *recorded* album – by several months, it was legal and technical arguments that delayed Let It Be’s release, so I stand by my comment!
April 26th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Sorry – “artistS”, I my ’s’ key sticks due to hot chocolate mishap!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Hi Maggot, I did consider Helter Skelter (and Piggies apparently was also in Manson’s, somewhat peculiar, mind). I guess I was trying to be positive.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Hi AussiegalinCanada, I’m not certain about question 1 off the top of my head, by Death Cab For Cutie was sung by the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band (later the Bonzo Dog Band) in Magical Mystery Tour. Paul McCartney also produced the Bonzo’s big hit – Urban Spaceman. Neil Innes (pianist for the Bonzos) played the John Lennon character (Ron Nasty) in the Rutles.
-Andrew
April 26th, 2009 at 11:09 am
bucslim- Very well said. This list sure brought out the trolls and the teenage know it alls.
It doesen`t matter if you like The Beatles or not, their influence is undeniable.If you question that,your music knowledge fails !
Trying to compare The Beatles to Led Zepplin is like apples and oranges. Different music entirely. I love zepp got all their albums (yes albums).Got over 300 Beatles songs on the hard drive and most of their albums also.
To start an arguement compairing the two is foolish.
Nip it in the bud.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am
AussiegalinCanada, I’m not certain what the Marx Bros song could be, but I can hazard some guesses based on some classics that the Beatles covered (usually early in their career):
My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean – arguably the Beatles first single, it was sung by Tony Sheridan. The B side was “The Saints” – Oh When The Saints to a rock and roll tempo.
The Sheik of Araby – only released on bootlegs and on the Anthology discs.
Maggie May – Can’t imagine the Marx Bros having ever heard of this one though!
-Andrew
April 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
I stand corrected about Capitol records – slight slip of the keyboard! – if I can work out a way to edit the list, I’ll correct it – or if someone can tell me how???
-Andrew
April 26th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Love them or hate them, The Beatles were the biggest influence of an entire generation of teenagers and everyone else who loves music that followed.
44. Ouchan! Pink Floyd beats out Led Zeppelin?? Jimmy Page is the best damn guitar god ever. Come on!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:20 am
64. BloodSuckingLeech: Sorry…it’s an old arguement that Mark and I have from a previous list…I was cross-list pollinating!
As for Page…don’t get me started. That is another debate in itself.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Oouchan: Oh! Sorry to get in the middle of your cross pollinating!
April 26th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Great list! I had to reread the intro to see why their appearance on the Ed Sullivan Show wasn’t on it. Maggot#48, I was going to make the same point, but I’m kind of glad Dana left it off. This list is focused on the musical influence of each song, Helter Skelter would be a good choice for a darker one.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Amazing list! And perfect timing, as I had just finished loading a newly purchased copy of Let It Be… Naked onto my iPod; all I need now is the Anthology and Live at the BBC to finish my “official release” collection. (Not to mention the remasters when they come out in September[so excited!])
I would share a story of when the Beatles changed my life, but outlining every second of every day for the past 2-3 years just doesn’t seem like proper comment-etiquette…
And, please, don’t generalize the music tastes of teenagers. I’m a teen, and, as evidenced by the poster directly above the keyboard I’m using at the moment and the Hard Day’s Night t-shirt I’m wearing, I’m not exactly a Beatles-hater/know-nothing. In fact, many of my classmates share my Beatles sentiments(though perhaps not to the same extreme…)
These days, with the advent of iPods, Pandora, and the cultural obsession with the reintroduction of old material in new mediums, such as Across the Universe (which I haven’t seen yet, and what little of the soundtrack I’ve heard hasn’t impressed me) and Cirque de Soleil’s “Love” (GREAT soundtrack), the current generation is far more exposed to and appreciative of the music of the past.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Where the hell is their best album, the White Album?
April 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I know so many Beatles songs by heart just because my parents would always play them. Hearing one of them now brings up nice childhood memories- plus they are just good songs. Since my dad noticed that I would sing along with his Beatles music, when I was ten he introduced me to another of his favorite bands- U2. It has been my favorite band ever since, and my dad and I have gone to U2 concerts together. It is one thing out of very few that my dad and I can bond over- so, yeah, I guess The Beatles did change my life.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Hey folks. And hello Mr. Pepper. I must say I do like the Beatles – although not all the time. Sometimes I’ll get a With The Beatles feeling, sometimes a psycadelic Revolver moment, or perhaps an Abby Road pure pop rush; and then I won’t listen to the band for months or years on end. I also live not far from Liverpool myself.
Anyone who wants to know the real Beatles story can’t go far wrong with the Anthology documentary DVDs.
Even though I like the band, I have to say that George Harrison was never the best guitar hero of all time. In the late 50’s, guitar music was just becoming popular (no thanks to some of it being banned on the radio), so nobody could play amazingly well. The number of times I’ve heard a dodgy middle-8 by George beggers belief – yet it was thanks to those 60’s bands who pushed standards high what 70’s bands, (such as Led Zep, Deep Purple) learned and took guitar music to new heights. It’s the old ‘Standing on the shoulders of giants’ thing. So which giant did the Beatles stand on the shoulders of? The King – Elvis. And before that there was Blues, and Gospel.
Were the Beatles the greatest group of all time? (or even of the 60’s) – In all likelyhood, proably not! But then this list isn’t trying to propogate that assumption.
Fav Beatles track: You Know My Name (extended).
April 26th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
#68: Jacobi – “Cirque de Soleil’s “Love” (GREAT soundtrack)”.
I’ll agree to disagree on that one. The Martin’s could and should have done so much more with that release. So rather than groan, I decided to remix the whole album myself, and give it a proper ear-drum busting climax. I called it “Real Love” (get it?). And no, you will not find it on any boots or torrents.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Wonderful stroll down adolescent lane, apepper! Thanks!
I saw the Beatles in concert twice. Once unofficially, from the trees surrounding the Hollywood Bowl in August of 1964. Then again, officially, at their last American tour in August of 1966 at Dodger Stadium. No one knew it was their last tour. I knew people in the record biz who decided to skip that tour and wait for the next one, hoping it would be in a smaller venue.
How did this change my life? It made me make certain never, ever to delay attending a concert I wanted to see. It may not happen later.
It also made me stretch that philosophy out into the rest of my life. I don’t delay happiness, or what needs to be done in any way, shape, or form until tomorrow. Tomorrow might not come, and something important might be left undone.
Kind of heavy for a lesson from the Beatles? You take your lessons where you find them. And be grateful you did, you never know who’s life you’ll change.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
When did it become so darn trendy to dislike the Beatles? It’s almost as trendy as liking them now
People listen to Yellow Submarine a couple times and write the Beatles off as crap. Listen to Blackbird and tell me the Beatles never made anything good.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Jacobi- I applaud you for your open mind about music. I was a teenage Beatle fan also. Many years ago that is.
April 26th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
We all know,as great as the Beatles were,they would not have become that famous if they had not appeared on “The Ed Sullivan Show”–
WE LOVE YOU ED!!!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Apepper, Andrew, you are spot on with the Death Cab for Cutie linkage. And the Marx Brothers sang “My Bonnie” in “Go West”. They probably DID sing “Shiek of Araby”, but I don’t know where.
I loved the Beatles from a very young age, because my father is a 50’s and 60’s record collector and mix tapes that he made were a staple of car trips! Now that I am in my 20’s I look back and think how lucky I was that my dad taught me so much about the roots of modern music – I hear the sounds of the 60’s in everything from The Dreamer and The Sleeper to Datarock to Mika to Angus and Julia Stone to…oh its endless!
So when I find a new band I love they make me want to listen to my old friends on vinyl again.
5 years ago I was a punky kid with a mohawk listening to Rubber Soul on my diskman. Now I am married and starting a family and the music has grown with me. It may be ‘cool’ to say that all that’s old is obsolete, but is anyone really going to listen to the Jonas Brothers or Limp Biskit in 50 years? Well they WILL be listening to the Beatles, I can promise you!
April 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
73 segue: saw the Beatles in concert twice. Once unofficially, from the trees surrounding the Hollywood Bowl in August of 1964. Then again, officially, at their last American tour in August of 1966 at Dodger Stadium. No one knew it was their last tour.
Argh segue I am insanely jealous. Their last live show ever (not including the Get Back rooftop performance) was right in my own backyard, at Candlestick Park in San Francisco (just following your So. Ca dates). But alas, at 6 yrs old, I was a bit too young to fathom the importance of what was going on, let alone think about seeing them “next time around”. I’ve since seen many, many concerts including some memorable and/or landmark performances by hall of fame acts, but I would trade them all for a time machine trip back to witness a Beatles show during the height of Beatlemania. Well heck, as long as I am dreaming, I’d go to an early Cavern Club gig first and foremost.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
oouchan Pink Floyd definitely beats Led Zep. However Jimmy Page is the god of guitarists.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Hey,I can play a guitar–I backed up Elvis on “Kentucky Rain”…………..Ok,I lied…I can’t play a guitar.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
smithstar15 Cindy Brady (I forget her real name) sang with Elvis when she was around 4 years old.
April 26th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
A few thoughts here:
(1) I went through a short period of my life where I was into The Beatles BIG TIME. I would put on my Beatles Wig and paint my face white (with a little black mustache) and hide in my grandmother’s basement and put on her pink flower dress and blast The Fab Four, monotone style, until my ears bled and the moon came out (I could see it through the tiny window in the dark). I had lifesize dolls of them, which I made, and would have great conversations about the universe and whether or not they believed in aliens.
somedays we just chit chatted about regular life you know. At times we would cry and Ringo would always change the subject when his ill forgotten father, actor Peter Sellers, was brought up.
Other times I would get angry with John, because he thought it funny to break wind when everybody was trying to be serious. Still to this day it upsets me when somebody else passes gas, because I immediately think of John. Its so sad the way he had to leave us.
I never liked Paul. Dont tell anybody, but sometimes I would take him around where the preservatives were kept. I had to be nonchalant about it because George had “second sight” and could pick up on the tiniest of changes in the atmosphere.
I would say, “Paul, lets go get some peaches and dried apricots for everybody” or something like that. Once we were alone, I would get real close and say, “look Paul. I dont care for you so much. Youve written some of the best songs and all but you have got to work on your personality, otherwise before you know it you’ll be 70 something years old – and still saying “cool” to your 70 something year old fans who you think are still 15.
(2) I now get into into Eht Sdrawkcab Seltaeb (The Backwards Beatles) and The Grey Album. In the towers of light and clearity the original sound can be deciphered by true disciples and transformation resolves.
(3) Helter Skelter was life changing. Put an end to the 60’s with “Pigs” written in blood.
(4) well gee segue. if this is your last day here, why don’t you go into at length your memory of The Beatles in Dodger Stadium? I would luv to read about the details of such an event by somebody in the crowd. Really.
you know, like how loud was it. where you peeved that everybody was screaming and you couldn’t hear the songs or did you scream along? Did you keep your ticket stub? Was there anything around in the stands you saw that was memorable? How far away were you? If far, did seeing that the beatles were actual beatle size in anyway trouble you? Was it just another forgettable performance, aside from them being who they were? They may be details that dont make a difference one way or another but in a way they do.
(5) I was at the Youtube Show when they were in 1966 Japan. They opened up for Youtube. Bono was shorter then I imagined.
(6)Raunchy is alllriitte. yeh yeh yeh. Wish my talent went someplace when I was 14 instead of becaoming a dishwasher for life.
(7) The Beatles were chosen ones, then The Maharishi had to ruin everything.
(8) I also learned today that somebody by the name of Captain Sassy Sillytits has an Ohm tattooed on his arm as an honor to George.
(9) “There’s feedback on the sploshing flange!” Oh, that’s too good! From this day forth I shall try and make this a 21century trendy catch phrase. Kinda like “Where’s The Beef!?” or “Duh!, Gag me with a spoon!” but better then Pet Sounds.
(10) I still think The Beatles CAN be forgotten. The “idea” of “Influence” is relative in time as their very existence denotes a stream-between-type of significance, which IS within the longevity factor of mankind, but is also relegated to the dustbin sweep of A Greater Calamity. If all the records were burned in stacks apon stacks, way back when, how would that have changed the much more important life surrounding them?
Great List apepper!
April 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
35. FtMotM : And I’ll assume that people that can’t fathom that someone could not like The Beatles and feels the need to post that view on an LV list is : A) Insanely insecure or B) Looking for an argument
44. oouchan :
45. bucslim : No, The Beatles influence isn’t infinitely far reaching as you seem to think. I’ll put on my Death or Doom or Avant-Garde or even Funk Metal and I won’t hear The Beatles *period*. It really doesn’t matter what Beatles fans would like to see their band have a hand in, it doesn’t make it true.
47. cesar : I think the problem most Zeppelin fans have is the fact that The Beatles are commonly called rock.
59. apepper : “Hi Maggot, I did consider Helter Skelter (and Piggies apparently was also in Manson’s, somewhat peculiar, mind). I guess I was trying to be positive.”
Yeah, way to further the stereotype that The Beatles are untouchable
65. oouchan : Yeah, thanks for that. Page owns, you’re right, let’s not start that again here either
68. Jacobi : Thank the dear lord above that we don’t have any kids like you at my school…
71. Lifeschool : Holy crap! I love you! Someone needed to say it, and it wasn’t me. I was pretty much resigned to doing it eventually before being called a troll for a copius amount of time by blind Beatles fans… Thanks mate
77. AussiegalinCanada : Maybe, but what’s important to me is that *I* won’t be listening to The Beatles. I will however be listening to Limp Bizkit and a huge collection of metal and older hard rock amongst some lighter material. Not everyone listens to or likes The Beatles. Who’s selling more albums now? I really do hope one day that that decrease in popularity finishes with the older generations leaving us – no more crazed Beatles fans – so the world can get on with music without crappy cliches like that that restrict it.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Actually,the reason I didn’t back up Elvis on “Kentucky Rain” is because I was opening for Tom Jones at the time-
…………………………..Ok,that’s not true either–Geez–This is a tough crowd.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
83. Mark: Ok. I found this to be slightly offensive “I really do hope one day that that decrease in popularity finishes with the older generations leaving us – no more crazed Beatles fans – so the world can get on with music without crappy clichés like that that restrict it.”
You knew that comment was going to rub me the wrong way. I know you are not calling people old, but lets take a look at this for a moment.
This comment can works both ways. “You see, crappy teenage music of today is what is ruining the classics.” That didn’t sound nice either, did it? Don’t assume that those older than you don’t appreciate music from today. I don’t assume that about you. Appreciating the classics is different from making them your favs. Each person has their own opinion of music and what is good.
Unfortunately, the thought process today is thus:
Older generation hates new music
Younger generation hates older music
Does this fit everyone? No. However with the thought you put above, I see you fit into that. You might like a few older song/bands, but you don’t seem to appreciate it. That comment was just a little off and a little harsh.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
85. oouchan : I don’t *care* whether music is old or new or in between or ancient or what. I really couldn’t care less personally, I listen to what I like and what sounds good to me – not the Beatles incidentally. However, the music industry holds bands such as them and Zeppelin to an extent and The Who and The Stones and Elvis, to such a high level that no-one will *ever* reach them again. That doesn’t leave too much hope for me, does it? I just want all of that to be gone, sure they’re all good, but no-one’s *that* good
April 26th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
The Beatles still sell more albums than Limp Bizkit. Fred Durst sounds like he’s getting raped in every single song. No one will listen to that garbage in 50 years, as AussiegalinCanada said. Let’s see a Limp Bizkit album come out after they break up and set records decades later.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
86. Mark: The industry does hold such bands as the classics in high regard…but they also know what sells. They promote bands that sell records. So far with the exception of a few “new” bands, the classic still sell and the other just disappeared. Unfortuantly that is the mind-set of today. If the older generation leaves, then you are still stuck with the mentality of “gimme new” that everyone thinks today.
I am not of the mentality of needing something new. If I like it, it’s on my ipod to stay. I am trying to teach my kid this way too. If we each do our part, then bands that have been around and new bands of today will get equal footing. We can’t just ignore one in favor of the other. That includes the classics. Why discredit new? For it to work and to be balanced we need both. Too bad the next generation has made it hard for that to happen. Makes it very sad, don’t you think?
Where does that put you and your band? I don’t know. From what have described as your music, I would listen to you.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
88. oouchan : You just expressed my thoughts perfectly. Unfortunately for us most people don’t share that simple ideology, they *need* to be “fans” of a classic band like The Beatles or Zeppelin “because”. Or, like the kids at my school, they just listen new, in one week, out the next.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Because Led Zeppelin is so great, Mark.
April 26th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
And while I’m here, I’m a fan of new music…Breaking Benjamin, Linkin Park, Chevelle, Papa Roach…they tip their respective fists in the air to the metal music of the 70’s
April 26th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
89. Mark: So true. I work with someone who is just 4 years younger than me and has that same mindset. It’s disgusting to hear him talk about the upcoming new band. I asked him about the classics and he looked like I just said bad word or something. I think “we” was the fans need to be in charge…not the industry. Stop promoting crap bands just because the are cute and get with bands or singers that can really perform. No matter who or what they are or even their style. Too much on the teeny bobbers of today.
Forgot to mention this earlier but you know from my previous list that I like the wacky and weird. So I checked today’s wacky holiday for April 26th here in the US. Guess what it is?
Hug an Australian Day (not kidding!)
April 26th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
90. BloodSuckingLeech : I say it here, it comes out there…
There are many other great bands too, but we don’t worship Mountain do we? Why not? Is that fair? Get over it, I wasn’t calling them crap. As the regulars will tell you, I’m a huge Zeppelin fan, so I’m definitely not calling them crap. I just see the bands that miss out – or are going to miss out
91. BloodSuckingLeech : Not exactly my faves, but kudos to you for admitting that on LV
April 26th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Mark, I was just finishing your sentence for you. And sorry, didn’t know this was a regulars only discussion for ppl that memorize all sixty two million of your posts
April 26th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
That’s very offensive to me since I DO worship Mountain–Hey,wait a minute,who in hell is that?
April 26th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
” little girl standing on the corner
Today’s your lucky day for sure all right
Me and my buddy we’re from New York City
We got $200, we want to rock all night
Girl, you’re looking at two big spenders
Why the world don’t know what me and Wayne might do”
Hey–We’re forgetting about “The Boss” aren’t we?
April 26th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
No need to argue with someone who don`t know what there talking about.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I absolutely love the Beatles, and John Lennon’s “Woman” is the most beautiful love song I’ve ever heard, though I have a huge weakness for Eric Clapton as well. I think not everyone of every age is going to agree who the best band is or whatnot, but I personally would say they are one of my favorites, as well as Led Zeppelin, Lynard Skynard, and many, many others. My taste in music goes all over the place. I love a little of everything, but to acknowledge the Beatles changed history is only fair. They sold out stadiums when it wasn’t done, that is hard even today to do, so I give them all respect.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
@ Sanguine (19.): It’s my understanding the original Cavern Club got turned into a parking lot, so unless my info is faulty you’re not drinking at the same place where the lads cut their rock’n'roll teeth. But that’s okay, you’re still in Liverpool.
Seems pretty obvious to me that there are and will always be millions of people out there who don’t get what the Beatles were about, or what they really meant to the music world. (Just as there will always be millions of people who don’t “get” Beethoven or Bach or Mozart or Miles Davis, and how important they remain to music history and world culture.) To those who will listen and aren’t having fun trying to derail Listverse with their troll bullshit, I will simply say, you had to be there. There is hardly a band today that can match them for songwriting talent, performing savvy, or awareness of the world around them. They took rock’n'roll away from Elvis and Cliff Richard, especially at a time when the record company suits were trying to make pop music “safe” and sanitary with lame acts like Fabian and Frankie Avalon, and the lads put the juice back into the music in a way that made them the people’s choice long before that term became capitalized and trademarked. Multitracking had been invented by Les Paul over twenty years earlier, but it took the Beatles (and George Martin) to really show what could be done with that technology. They were also among the first to use the Mellotron, in-studio tape effects, and music synthesizers, as well as classical musicians and ethnic instruments like Arab drums and sitars. There isn’t really a band in the last two decades that has come close to the universal appeal of the Beatles; all we have now are manufactured acts like Britney, Coldplay, Nickelback and God knows how many other people who would be sent off for singing lessons if it weren’t for Autotune. In every category you can name in the world of pop music, the Beatles did it first, and best. For two decades after their breakup, the world kept looking for the “next” Beatles; no one ever showed up to assume that mantle, because it couldn’t be done.
Again, you had to be there. There was nothing remotely like the Beatles; really, they were even the first superstars. (Not my opinion: historical fact.) I was a kid when the Beatles first hit; I saw the impact they had on my age group (incredibly positive) and their parents (sometimes shockingly negative — that was when some of us found out what fascists we shared an address with), and the culture around us in every way. The Stones, the Who, Led Zeppelin — there are a thousand rock legends out there who would never have existed if the Beatles hadn’t paved the way.
I don’t know how to put this any other way: if you try to compare the Beatles with anyone else, or try to say that (your favorite band here) was better, you’re really missing the point.
April 26th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
82. diogenes eye: I’ve been talked into staying, so I am, on a limited basis. However, I am sick today, so going into details isn’t in me. Maybe in a day or so.
April 26th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
#100 segue:
#83 mark: ??
Just to throw my bucket overboard – since it’s 1 in the morning here – I’ll close by saying this. Good music is good music; and the best music sounds just as good now as it did then. Yes, I’m also thinking of the Floyd, and also Hendrix, but also the Beatles.
April 26th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Jamie, is there a list of the longest bloatiest comments?
April 26th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
FALSE!!!!! Abbey road the Album WAS named after Abbey Road the studio. Look it up. Or buy the Beatles Anthology. Abbey Road studios were named such LONG before the album came out. sucky list though (sorry jfrater or whoever wrote it0 . but cmon revolver influenced costello (he says so himself), the white album influenced proto-punk [lennon's songs on that album at least], and help influenced dylan for highway sixty one revisited. And The Beatles beat out Zeppelin any day and i’m a huge fan of Zeppelin. by the way hombretubes i agree the white album IS their best album. if you would so feel inclined check out walls and bridges by lennon. by no means his best album but i find him in a similar place to the white album.
April 26th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Forget Zeppelin vs Beatles. The Kinks are the best!
April 26th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Pugget is a true idiot. maybe we should impose a rule saying people that stupid shouldn’t be allowed to comment. Besides them “sucking balls” pugget what dont you like about them. i mean at least be specific like “i dont like four piece bands with the two greatest songwriters in rock in them.” how about something like that?
April 26th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Gen tits: kinks def deserve more credit but they aren’t better than the beatles
April 26th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
92. oouchan : Wow, that’s demeaning
Lol, jokes. But I think you missed a very big – if not wacky – Australian holiday on the 25th. ANZAC Day, look it up people, it’s very important and interesting.
And oouchan, you can give me a hug anytime
94. BloodSuckingLeech : I wasn’t implying that you had to be a regular, just pointing it out that it is rather common knowledge and waiting in vain for a regular to back it up
95. smithstar15 : People are just falling over themselves to prove my points for me today…
99. MartinL : “…The Stones, the Who, Led Zeppelin — there are a thousand rock legends out there who would never have existed if the Beatles hadn’t paved the way…”
Ok, that was full of it…
“…I don’t know how to put this any other way: if you try to compare the Beatles with anyone else, or try to say that (your favorite band here) was better, you’re really missing the point…”
The Beatles are beyond comparison aren’t they? Above question and critique? They were just too good for the world, face it people. They shouldn’t have lived on Earth, they were *way* too good for the rest of us
101. Lifeschool : Yes good music is good music, but that’s where it should stay. The Beatles are not gods, get over them people – that wasn’t directed at you, just used your comment as a clever starting point, cheers
102. BloodSuckingLeech : You haven’t seen nuthin’ till you’ve talked to Anon…
104. General Tits Von Chodehoffen : Hmm, I’ll agree that it should go : Zeppelin, Kinks, Beats….
105. Looser : OMFG! Piss off – “i dont like four piece bands with the two greatest songwriters in rock in them.”
That statement pisses me off to the max. I think that if we ban retards from commenting you might have a heard time being heard
April 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
lol who said i failz…
a fail in “trolling” isn’t when peeps realize, OMG A TROLL, based on the amount of coments that have come up saying im an idiot, i would say this was a successful troll.
as a matter of fact, i have NOT even listened to a piece of beatles music, which just makes it more funny XD..
April 26th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Okay, Mark, I’m taking back all of the nasty thoughts I’ve been psychically thinking towards you and canceling the torches and pitchforks march to your village as we speak. Until next time…….
April 26th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
I love it
April 26th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
72. Lifeschool – I can see your side of the argument… but the vocals only version of Because *has an Herbal Essences moment* made it well worth the price of admission (for me, at least). =)
Really? What kind of remix are we talking about here? The entire catalog, or specifically of the Love tracks?
April 26th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
99. MartinL: I have to agree with part of what you said….you had to be there to enjoy the true essence of their music. I wish I could have seen them along with all the other band of that era.
107. Mark: hahaha! I knew about that holiday but for us yankees we need to have weirder ones. So when I saw that one…I just had to share.
As for the hug…I used to work with children who were very sick and couldn’t touch other people. Some had gloves or masks on. Some had special rooms they had to be in. Anyway, I heard about a way we could share a hug. They are called Zen Hugs. You just have to think it. So for you in Aussie land…here’s a Zen Hug.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
@\mark:
Why do you suppose that fandom of The Beatles will die out with the baby boomers? Some young musos, and I’m talking garage band members as well as university educated musical theorists LOVE music way beyond their generation.
I don’t know how you can hope any music dies out. I have little respect for Miley Cyrus’ music, but the sheer popularity of it makes it culturally relevant. I doubt that it will get any airplay after 10 years, but it still will have changed the world, if only a little.
It is as ignorant to discount a genre or a generation as it is to assume that personal preferance excuses close-mindedness.
April 26th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Love Floyd. Led Zep. Kinks. Also a lot of new stuff out there that I hear on the radio. Still miss Kurt Cobain. Will always miss John. What else would they have accomplished had not their lives been stolen from them.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
the beatles were the first REAL band, bar none. their influence is undeniable.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
apepper~
i am ‘alove’ with you! i have always been, first & foremost, a Beatles girl. my mother has some old vintage cellaphane reel with me at the age of 6 holding a tiny doll brush, swinging my hips, and singing along with my little red 45 record player to “Love Me Do”/ she also has a picture of me stuffing the family cat into a plastic picnic basket…
put it this way, as outgoing, brash, and overwhleming as I am..
when I was a teenager, my pick up line for guys was simply
“Are you a Beatles fan or an Elvis fan?”
if you answered “Elvis” i’d smile and walk away. if you answered “huh?” i’d just turn on my heel… but if you answered “Beatles” i’d hang for a bit. and probably drag you to a dark corner of the club to do disgustingly lovely things to you…
really.
because I am a firm believer there are ONLY 2 kinds of people in this world…Beatles people & Elvis people.
it does kinda dictate yor polital stance, taste in music, ideals, dreams, wants, and…uhm…sexual…desires…
rtr
seriously. no lie. my current bf of 13 years only had to say “Beatles of course!” in a heavy Venezuelan accent when I asked him. didn’t matter he knew only about 100 words in english. the ‘band’ handled all the rest…our first conversations where either song titles, albums, or lyrics…corny? maybe…but my life has always been enhanced by The Beatles.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
108. PUGGET : Yeah… I hate to break it to you guys but he pretty much owned you.
109. BloodSuckingLeech : I can’t wait
112. oouchan : YAY! Zen hug!
113. AussiegalinCanada : You miss the point, and frankly, that comment left me in stitches. I don’t want The Beatles’ music to disappear, I just want their die-hard (bigoted? stubborn?) fans to piss off. You call me close-minded, but the fact of the matter is you saw me say “I don’t like…” and then you jumped on it as if I was calling your mother a whore. No band deserves the respect and love The Beatles have, it’s just music. It’s there to listen to, it can help you a lot, but they’re just musicians.
I hate to break it to you, but they wouldn’t return the favour if they had a chance, so don’t think they’re perfect or sweet. John thought – in all seriousness – that The Beatles were bigger than Jesus. That was a complete and utter lack of humility, I don’t see what you see in them as people *period*…
115. bipppp : I’m not even going to bother pointing out why that’s a retarded comment…
116. ringtailroxy : Rofl, that’s one way to live I guess…
April 26th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Excellent list. How is it that this list found all the hate-filled losers who dump all over everything on the Internet though?
Calm down, then seriously research some of your favorite bands and see if they don’t list The Beatles as an influence. You may be surprised.
Then, get up off your parents’ couch, and go get a job and actual friends. This social interaction will help dissipate your frustration with life, and you won’t have to dump so much hatred into the world.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Ringtailroxy said…”because I am a firm believer there are ONLY 2 kinds of people in this world, Beatles people & Elvis people.”
Two kinds of white people you mean. Works just as well if you divide humanity into Chuck Berry people and Otis Redding people.
April 26th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
118 was stupid and 119 was racist, I’ll expand on that after class. Later!
April 26th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
@Mark.
The sentence I objected to was ” I really do hope one day that that decrease in popularity finishes with the older generations leaving us – no more crazed Beatles fans – so the world can get on with music without crappy clichés like that that restrict it.”
If I waded incorrectly through that garbled mire and drew the conclusion that you saw a ‘decrease in popularity of the Beatles to an eventual dissapearance along with Beatles fans” as positive, I can hardly be held accountable.
I don’t care if you like the Beatles, Dave Dee Dozey Beaky Mick and Titch or Karl Wolf. I do care that people don’t respect influential movements in Art, or pretend that they didn’t exist, or are inconsequential.
The bands I do not like are few, but as part of my job as a freelance journalist sometimes I have to cover them, for example I once had to interview Good Charlotte, who were drunk and obnoxious. And while their eventual dissappearance from the commercial radio gene pool will come as no suprise to me, I can see that they have had influence in the current psudohard rock genre.
What have the individual personalities of the Beatles to do with anything? Do you think that Limp Bizkit would care about you? You seem to think that I am regarding them as saints or messiahs.
and as far as the Beatles influencing Led Zepplin, well the Yardbirds “Heart Full of Soul” is intensly Beatlesque, as is “Shapes of Things” or whatever that song is titled.
And if you don’t know the Yardbirds, you ain’t a Zepplin fan.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
I’m amazed how young these guys were when they started playing music together. 14?!!
April 27th, 2009 at 12:38 am
119. BongoShaftsbury : That is an insanely racist comment. We’re not in the bloody 50’s anymore mate. There is no “White folk music” and “Black person music”, no restrictions on what type of people listen to what style or artist. Get your head out of your anal colon and you may have a chance to redeem yourself, otherwise, don’t bother replying.
121. AussiegalinCanada : Good effort *pats freelance journalist on head*… Influence and influential movements in music are important. But Beatles fans are no saints themselves in that regard, most of them – and you to an extent – massively understate Zeppelin’s influence. You even try to do it by painting The Yardbirds as “quintessential” Zeppelin – “And if you don’t know the Yardbirds, you ain’t a Zepplin fan.”, which is crap in itself, exaserbated when read into.
I’m not trying to downplay The Beatles influence, just put it into perspective. Just look at 115, seriously, look at it. Do you see where I’m coming from? Too many people view The Beatles as the greatest thing *ever* in music, when there are more than enough challengers for that title. I also find that Beatles fans will, for want of a better word, explode whenever *anything* that could even be taken *slightly* as an “insult to the Beatles ‘honour’”, such as what you’re doing now. You read too far into something and now you won’t just step back and say “Yeah, maybe Beatles fans can be a bit overzealous at times…”.
The cliche that no-one will ever reach The Beatles and that they are ultimately the *best* thing that has or will ever happen to the industry is a stain, very hard to remove at that. That’s all I’m saying, I would rather people approach music as something they like to listen to rather than “Because it’s the Beatles, duh, that’s why I like them!”. That way, many musicians would be better off for their already insanely large workload, which could finally be paying dividends. Like Death Metal bands, whose music is quite enjoyable if you give it the time, but most people won’t “Because it’s metal.”
April 27th, 2009 at 12:53 am
Can’t we all play nice??
April 27th, 2009 at 1:09 am
To be as popular as the beatles or elvis, u have to be at the right place at the right time with some talent, of course. I never understood beatle-mania. Their songs were good, no doubt, but so many other great singers and performers have come and gone wihtout getting their dues. Just not fair.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:23 am
Mark you just don’t seem to get it. Reread what MartinL wrote in post99.
*You had to be there.*
Prior to the Beatles there was nothing (certainly since Elvis had done his Army stint). Basically the entire Music Industry as it is today comes back to the Beatles. It was the Beatles that creatively opened the industry up so that a much broader variety of artists could get recorded and airplay.
It was the Beatles that showed the Industry how much Money could be made from pre to teen age kids (which idea flowed to the advertising industry – unfortunately). You stated earlier;
*However, the music industry holds bands such as them and Zeppelin to an extent and The Who and The Stones and Elvis, to such a high level that no-one will *ever* reach them again.*
Of course no one will, The Beatles, Zep and Elvis (and to a lesser extent the Stones) all broke new ground and took it to much larger/broader audiences than pretty much any band since. They did that by selling records in unheard of numbers and hence making money – the ONLY thing that counts in the Music Industry – and they still do. Witness the sales and chart positions of Elv1s and The Beatles 1 albums.
Another fact that mitigates against your modern bands is the fractured and cynical nature of modern music fandom. Example; Pick your favourite band, or even the biggest selling current act and tell me the most singles they have had in the Top 10 (anywhere) at one time. The Beatles would have called that a bad week. They UTTERLY DOMINATED the music charts for the majority of their career. That just is not possible today. This whole thing for the new means that while a band will sell Nx10 millon copies of their breakthrough album by the time their next album comes out it will struggle to get half that many sales.
Cheers
Lee
PS Why do you consider ANZAC Day *wacky*?
April 27th, 2009 at 1:27 am
Hyla (124)
This is Nice!!
Cheers
Lee
April 27th, 2009 at 2:28 am
126. k1w1taxi : It’s not me that doesn’t get it Lee. I know the impact that these bands had on the *industry*, but the frank truth is that I don’t care, it’s as simple as that. I listen to music for the sake of listening to music, I don’t see it as an industry. Fair enough The Beatles, Zeppelin and Elvis were huge and revolutionized the way music “worked”, that doesn’t mean that they should be praised as god by all of us, the listeners and consumers. Why do we care that the industry now rips us off to the max in every transaction? Why should we? No, we should respect bands for their *music* above all else – and I think that writing original stuff now is much more impressive than pre-Zeppelin era.
Also, The Beatles completely dominating the charts was due to the times, that argument works both ways. If you look from the days of The Fab Four, through to the 70’s, 80’s, 90’s and finally today, I’m sure you’ll find an inverse correlation between chart dominance and date.
It’s a rather obvious phenomena that people are currently still writing very original and quality music, but they don’t get the recognition The Beatles got – that they really do deserve – all I’m saying is how is this fair?
I don’t consider ANZAC Day wacky, I was calling it important and interesting – not to mention confusing
April 27th, 2009 at 3:13 am
Now if only ‘Paul wasn’t dead’, John would still be alive as well and George’s lungs would still be in perfect working condition and i would have couple passes to their reunion concert next month…
April 27th, 2009 at 3:24 am
The Drum Intro in Tomorrow Never Knows was acheived by Ringo releasing the stick on the 2nd last beat and allowing the weight of the stick to play the last beat, genius, a much underestimated drummer.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:46 am
@Mark
I am not talking about fans, Beatles or otherwise. There are manic fans of all bands and singers.
I also never said that the Yardbirds were quintessential anything – thats like saying that Nirvana is the quintessential Foo Fighters which is just ridiculous.
I stand by my statement that if you don’t know the Yardbirds you are not a Zepplin fan, because it is impossible to think one came without the other. The recordings first made by Zepplin were called “Led Zepplin” by the Yardbirds.
They changed direction but they did not change track.
I think you have run out of points Mark, you want me to agree that Beatles fans are obsessive, sure, never said they weren’t. I don’t care what music you do or don’t listen to, never did. I understand from your last statement to me, your knowledge of music is more limited than most people of your generation, (Im assuming you are about 20) so having a real musical debate with you is kinda pointless.
you keep changing your story.
April 27th, 2009 at 5:57 am
Whether you like the beatles or not, this was a decent list. You can not deny that the bands you love have been influenced even by bands you loathe. Just because your favorite band like another band doesn’t mean you have to.
Personally, I’m not a big Beatles fan. Back in college, a lot of my 4:20 friends would swear that The Beatles were the best thing ever, get high and give it a listen. I never got into them (even when high).
I will admit, though, that there are a few Beatles songs that I like, I just refuse to give them a free pass just because I like a couple of songs, and the are The Beatles. However, I do enjoy Zep (my 8 year old daughter LOVES the immigrant song).
April 27th, 2009 at 6:00 am
131. AussiegalinCanada : Rofl, you’re trying to paint me into a corner, and guess what, you think you’re doing a very good job of it. Whoops, did I just start too? Sorry, it is rather annoying isn’t it?
“…I am not talking about fans, Beatles or otherwise. There are manic fans of all bands and singers…”
Agreed, and I think they’re all crap
“…I also never said that the Yardbirds were quintessential anything – thats like saying that Nirvana is the quintessential Foo Fighters which is just ridiculous…”
Aye, it is. Although I would have to say that if you like the Foo Fighters, you should give Nirvana a go.
“…I stand by my statement that if you don’t know the Yardbirds you are not a Zepplin fan, because it is impossible to think one came without the other. The recordings first made by Zepplin were called “Led Zepplin” by the Yardbirds…”
Ok, I can’t help but be picky for a second – Led Zeppelin, it has 2 E’s. Sorry, but that’s a pet peeve if mine. Anyways… You obviously don’t know all that much about Zeppelin and The Yardbids, either that or you’re assuming I don’t – whoops! I didn’t just do it again did I? – however, you would be sorely mistaken. I have a rather large knowledge of Zeppelin and I also happen to know that when Zeppelin started performing they were billed as the “New Yardbirds”, there were no recordings under this name to my recollection however. The problem with your argument is, well, Jimmy was the only Yardbird still in the band, what’s so different between that and the Nirvana one again?
“…They changed direction but they did not change track…”
I’m sorry but that went straight over my head, could you clarify?
“…I think you have run out of points Mark…”
I think you have as well, either that or you’re just a very inexperienced LVer – whoops, again?
“…you want me to agree that Beatles fans are obsessive, sure…”
That would be a start. Next week, teaching a Beatles fan humility… That may take a bit more than a week…
“…I don’t care what music you do or don’t listen to, never did…”
That’s good, because this shouldn’t be about what we prefer.
“…I understand from your last statement to me, your knowledge of music is more limited than most people of your generation, (Im assuming you are about 20) so having a real musical debate with you is kinda pointless…”
This bit just cracks me up! You are hilarious, seriously. I’m 16, however I listen to my father’s entire record collection and enjoy a rather large portion of it. I also incidentally have a rather large knowledge of music *period* – more heavy metal, but I’ll go anything so I’ve picked up a few things here and there. Don’t go assuming, you’ll make an ass of yourself – not to mention leave yourself open to critical interpretation by those of us who prefer fair and unbiased arguments. But I’m 16 and the regulars know it, so I can’t get one of those on LV
April 27th, 2009 at 6:12 am
“I also incidentally have a rather large knowledge of music *period* – more heavy metal, but I’ll go anything so I’ve picked up a few things here and there.”
I know we’ve had a few arguments, Mark, but I just wanted to let you know that any friend of Metal is a friend of mine:D
Also don’t know what people are getting so worked up about over music? It’s probably one of the most subjective art forms in existence, hence the infinitely massive genre’s and cross-genre’s we see. Christ, Metal alone has about 10 major genre’s and a massive variety of sub-genre’s alone.
Each to their own, I say.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:34 am
There is a BIG one missing. The “music movie” for Rain was the first “music video” . We all know where that led.. MTV.
According to Paul McCartney, the band played the song faster in studio than it appears on the final release, and then slowed it down during post production to achieve the “gloopy” sound. Despite the “gloop,” the song was one of the first to feature Paul’s signature loud, booming basslines.
“Rain” is not featured on an original album and did not make it onto a compilation album until Hey Jude in the US and Rarities in the UK.
The song also introduced the world to the concept of music video. The band, sick and tired of performing/miming their hits on an endless sting of cheesy television programs, decided they would create promotional films instead.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Here’s the video.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Mark #123, first of all I can’t log on with YogiBarrister for some reason. Secondly, although ringtailtoxy’s comment wasn’t meanspirited in any way it was a culturalk gaffe. I wouldn’t call her racist, but you obviously missed my point. The whoile of humanity does not bgreak down into two convenient stereotypes of white people. I’m surprised Mark, you usually are more perceptive.
How is my comment racist? How is ringrail’s comment not racist?
April 27th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Mark, if you are going to play Randall on this blog you need to improve your game mate.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Mark needs to remove the can of Foster’s he has lodged in his ass, been listening to too much AC/DC and Men at Work IMO.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:22 am
133. Mark: “But I’m 16 and the regulars know it, so I can’t get one of those on LV”
Were you going for the “oh poor me” or were you just be funny? (not picking on you, just need to clarify) You know you do get a fair argument (once in a while) from us. I know you are 16…for the most part you stand up well. Sometimes you come off as a cocky kid so you have to understand that with age comes experience so us “older” people are going to jump on that.
I am NOT knocking you or your intelligence. You are more well-rounded then most 16 year olds I know and I happen to know a bunch due to my kid.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:33 am
” I am a firm believer there are ONLY 2 kinds of people in this world…Beatles people & Elvis people.”
Not to harp on this but the comment is only valid for the early 60’s. In ‘55 it would be Elvis people vs. Sinatra people. Then there are Beatles people and Rolling Stones people, Beatles and Led Zeppelin, Beatles and the Clash. The Hip-hop community breaks down any number of ways, same with Latin music, jazz, blues, you name it. Every race, every generation, every individual blogger can make the same assertion as ringtailroxy, about any two musical acts, and it would have as much validity.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:05 am
@Mark, I am pretty impressed that you are 16 and you are obviously intelligent.
I don’t think I have said anything that made an ass of myself however!
I am not a regular on this site, I was not aware it was a social club – I pretty much just read the music or literature lists.
I was referring to the 1st session recordings of the Zeppelin (I can barly spell my own name, letalone hard mulit-syllable words)that were sent around to studios as Led Zeppelin by the Yardbirds.
By changing direction but not changing track, I was referring to a very smooth transition in sound.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:41 am
117 Mark: John thought – in all seriousness – that The Beatles were bigger than Jesus. That was a complete and utter lack of humility
Taken in the context that he intended that off-the-cuff remark to be taken, he was arguably more correct than not. Here you are, some 40 years later, continuing to foster the out-of-context misinterpretation. Lennon may have had his foibles, but this wasn’t one of them.
I do get your point, that pop stars (media superstars in general) rarely if ever are able to “keep it real” with us common folk, and pretty much agree. I’m just saying that IMO using Lennon’s so-called Jesus controversy to support that argument misses the mark.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:53 am
111: Jacobi: Yes, just in case you are still around, I remixed the actual ‘Love’ album from top to bottom, adding all kinds of fillers, extras, and special effects to make it more, well, more of a Beatles tribute. The acapella ‘Because’ still opens the show, but I have added a live atmospheric soundtrack in the background; which moves from a meadow to the mountains to the plains, and reaches the outskirts of ‘civilisation’ by the first note of Hard Days Night and Get Back. I am very happy with it.
April 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
120 was stupid and I don’t have to expand on that. You (Mark) are exactly the type of person I’m talking about. Get out and do something constructive with your life instead of hating on everything you’re too ignorant to understand.
April 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am
“Mormon crickets have no taste in music, and Nevadans are using it against them. Residents of Tuscarora are getting ready to blast their boomboxes to ward off the crickets’ semi-annual invasion, after the townsfolk realized three years ago that the pests don’t like Led Zeppelin or the Rolling Stones…”
Must be Buddy Holly fans
April 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
@Mark
It is great to hear from a sixteen year old who has some sense about him. Now only four years removed from that age I still try to speak with humility about things beyond my years. This is just a friendly reminder not to be to hard on the people who literally grew up with the Beatles. More to come but for now I have to run to the vet.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
I did briefly consider having Rain/Paperback Writer as the first music video, but to “qualify” for the list I wanted documented evidence of someone saying “this changed my life” – I don’t think that’s true of those films; bands had been making film versions of songs for years – to promote songs abroad, ISTR Little Richard claimed that Tootie Frootie was the first “pop video”, but there are films of Louis Jordan performing from the 1930s, so it’s not really that new.
-Andrew
April 27th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
@ Mark your whole comment on Lennon’s comment about the beatles being bigger then Jesus shows that you should do some more research before you say these things. Lennon said that commenting on the number of fans they had, that more people liked them then they did Jesus. He wasn’t saying it egotistically he was just making an offhand remark about the number of fans they had.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Mark: instead of being an jerk about this why dont you stop posting on this list? we all know YOUR views on the beatles already so just shut up ok? Conversely you HAVE defended your point of view very well so i give you props for that but…
and about the two greatest songwriters of modern music i cant think of anybody else who WOULD be. can YOU? no wait. dont answer that i dont want you posting any more!
April 27th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Let’s keep this on topic, shall we?
Okay. I will have to say that I certainly believe that The Beatles “Rain / Paperback Writer” IS indeed the first short form music video that was produced as a promotional clip.
The “videos” that Andrew mentioned as being by Little Richard, “Tootie Fruity” and Loius Jordan “Caldonia” were actually incorporated in to full-length motion pictures of their day and doesn’t quality as a Short-form Music Video (Promo).
As and far as someone or anyone not declaring that it didn’t change their world, has apparently never seen a channel that USED to play music videos called MTV. That alone has changed the landscape of what would be considered a definite change in life’s musical landscape. I dunno about you, but that changed MY WORLD.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Wow Mark, I’m now dying to hear the “Death or Doom or Avant-Garde or even Funk Metal” that you’re listening to – the ones without any Beatles influence. Because for that to be the case, they would have to be recording without any multi-tracking, over-dubbing, or ping-ponging; without any stereo split, or any vocal double-dubs; without any compression, distortion, limiting, phase shifting, or back-masking; without anything beyond standard blues chord changes; without non-standard instrumentation, non-standard sound production on standard instrumentation, soundscape presentation, or other examples of music concrete. And that’s just a start concerning recording techniques. We can go further into hair length, clothing, political climatology, satellite television appearances, length of singles beyond 3 minutes, record label independence, marketing (including power analysis), music videos, etc.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Mark #83
45. bucslim : No, The Beatles influence isn’t infinitely far reaching as you seem to think. I’ll put on my Death or Doom or Avant-Garde or even Funk Metal and I won’t hear The Beatles *period*. It really doesn’t matter what Beatles fans would like to see their band have a hand in, it doesn’t make it true.
Look, it’s not my intention to brow beat a 16 year old for not ‘getting’ the Beatles. I’m not telling you to do anything. Listen to anything that interests you. But you are just wrong here man *period*
You can thank the Beatles and George Martin for pushing the limits of the recording process and modernizing it in almost every way. No computers back then to save, mix, edit and put effects on everything, sure, but it’s difficult for me to believe that what artists have now would be anything like it if not for the Beatles demanding better and better equipment and techniques every time they recorded an album. Do you realize that for the most part, before the Beatles, the artist would go into the studio with a backing band and just bang out the tunes in a couple of takes and if they got it, then that was it? They didn’t revolutionize the technique of overdubbing and effects, but they damn sure made it a standard practice.
The Beatles would go into the recording studio and turn everything on it’s ear to get the kind of sound they wanted, largely at the prodding of George Martin who would try anything to make something sound original and unique, something that you can get by pushing a button now was probably tinkered around with by Martin first or soon after first. Audio recording companies were having a difficult time keeping up.
So no, your music that you listen to right now might not sound like or be influenced directly by Lennon or McCartney. Might not show up in the lyrics, the music style or genre. But you can be damn sure the band you’re enjoying is benefitting from pioneering efforts in the recording studio by the Beatles.
Of course their influence doesn’t end there, I’m just responding to your post.
Come on man, expand your horizons, take a good listen to their catalog and you won’t be disappointed. Just keep in mind the sounds, effects, editing and production techniques were done without the synths and electrical processes that engineers and bands take for granted now.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Let’s keep this on topic, shall we?
Okay. I will have to say that I certainly believe that The Beatles “Rain / Paperback Writer” IS indeed the first short form music video that was produced as a promotional clip.
The “videos” that Andrew mentioned as being by Little Richard, “Tootie Fruity” and Louis Jordan “Caldonia” were actually incorporated in to full-length motion pictures of their day and doesn’t qualify as a Short-form Music Video (Promo).
As and far as someone or anyone not declaring that it didn’t change their world, has apparently never seen a channel that USED to play music videos called MTV. That alone would be considered a definite change in life’s musical landscape. I dunno about you, but that changed MY WORLD.
*made some edits. (See what happens when stuff gets under my skin?? I hate that there is not an option to edit these posts.)
April 27th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
sheesh warrreagl, thanks for hijacking my comment with something more intelligent and succinct.
April 27th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
151. CBGB1977: Couldn’t agree with you more! I loved MTV when it was Music Television! Now…I don’t even know what the hell it is. I have banned it from my house and along with VH1 because it’s just a few steps up from porno.
)
(nothing against porno, but I have a kid in the house
April 27th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
156.oouchan..samething happened up here in the North,our version Muchmusic went the sameway
April 27th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
oouchan-
Thank you. And now we scratch our heads and wonder why there is no creativity in music anymore.
As long as there are stupid chicks with big boobs and horny, egomaniacal “musicians” out there who betray their craft for some disgusting cold-sore ridden contestants, then we are in trouble! ‘Oi Vey!
I don’t even know why MTV still has VMA’s. Where are the videos??
I know, I went off topic….
April 27th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
CBGB1977: We get off topic here alot.
My cable co has about 100 channels now for music only. You have every type of genre out there and they play just the music. On the screen is usually a picture of the band along with some trivia or information. That is about it. I have that on when I am doing housework.
My favorite channel is the oldies where they will have a mix of 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. The best part is there are no commercials!
Too bad they don’t have any videos that were made for the Beatles. MTV and the like came after.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
oouchan-Go to top 15 Beatles songs on LV. There are a few Beatles videos there.
Check out their live video of Daytripper and turn it up loud. Georges guitar rocks !
April 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
MTV does suck a lot. I love softcore porn to drum machines and autotune as much as the next gen Y er, but when they do play music it is such a limited range!
In Australia we have a reasonabley decent program called ‘rage’. While the prime time section of the show is mainstream pop and psudo rock, late at night it is often a crazy eclectic mix of vintage, psycadelia, random eurotrash dance and alternative bands.
Awesome when you come home drunk on a friday.
April 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
160. bigski: Thanks! You would think I would have checked there first. oops!
April 27th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Re:No9 – The influence of this song was actually a few years later. In 1971, Jeff Lynne formed the Electric Light Orchestra with the intention of picking up from Strawberry Fields Forever; mixing traditional rock band instruments with classical instruments.
I think you will find that Roy Wood formed ELO …
April 27th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
To #161:”random eurotrash dance”? Did The Beatles invent that too?
I like the idea of a music tee-vee station that starts off the day all clean cut and mouth washed followed by a primetime jolt of pop candy (just enough before the vomit in the back of the throat starts to flare up), and then gallops into the early wee hours all degredated in glitter sweat stench and LSD freakouts.
Every thing gets sweeped up and the next day begins all over again.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
bucslim – that’s what I’m here for, bro. I had a lot more jabs to go, but I knew you were right behind me with the left hook.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
The Beatles are great. They are one of the best bands ever.
April 27th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Pink Floyd and The Beatles actually recorded in the same studio and picked up a lot of eachothers work. Just take into account “For there revealed in flowing robes was Lucy in the sky” from “Let There be More Light” off of the “A Saucerful of Secrets” album 1968.
April 27th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
167. Eugene: Also in “Dark Side of the Moon” when they caught Paul’s voice for the song “Money”.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:39 am
I’m still to be convinced that Paperback Writer/Rain really started many people thinking that they should produce film/videos to promote their songs – my memory of the period is that Queen’s Bohemian Rhapsody video was the start, I would imagine they did that as a video because it was so hard to perform it live. If someone has a reference with Freddie Mercury saying they decided to do it after seeing Rain/Paperback writer then great – we can add it to the list.
Similarly, although Yellow Submarine may well have been the first pop song to use samples from other songs (the brass band solo was constructed from another recording), I wouldn’t claim it was an influence on other artists as the start of sampling – mainly because it was disguised to prevent royalty claims from the actual performing artists.
April 28th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Roy Wood/Jeff Lynne? I stand corrected – it look like Roy was the one who had the idea but after “tensions” between Wood and Lynne, Roy left the band and Jeff Lynne controlled the agenda. If I ever find out how to edit a list(!), I’ll correct it.
-Andrew
April 28th, 2009 at 6:32 am
#169: apepper, it looks like you answered your own question. My interpretation of “Paperback Writer/Rain” was that The Beatles produced those two videos so that the VIDEOS could “go on tour” without The Beatles having to do so. If that’s the case, and if you feel that “Bohemain Rhapsody” was produced for the same reason, then it would seem that The Beatles started the whole thing off.
April 28th, 2009 at 6:52 am
oouchan – Eugene, The Dark Side of the Moon doesn’t contain McCartney’s voice. They recorded him, but felt his answers weren’t very genuine or noteworthy. He knew they were going to use them in some way on the album so he sorta told them what he thought they wanted to hear. Instead they used crew members and studio employees.
It was recorded in the summer of 73 when McCartney was in Wings and at Abby Road recording the Band on the Run album.
I think Wings guitarist Henry McCullough contributed the line “I don’t know I was really drunk at the time.” at the beginning of ‘Us and Them.’
April 28th, 2009 at 8:01 am
bucslim (172) I believe John Lennon helped in some way on “Money” and it was a roadie who said “I don’t know. I was really drunk at the time.”
April 28th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Thank you, warrrreagl.
I was thinking the same thing about the Paperback Writer / Rain MUSIC VIDEOS. If you have seen the Beatles Anthology DVDs, George Harrison, Ringo Starr and Paul McCartney say it themselves. It’s on disc 4, I believe. And as far as finding a Freddy Mercury statement goes, seeing that he has been deceased since 1991, it may be difficult.It is clear that Bohemian Rhapsody was released years after the fact. Is that convincing enough?
April 28th, 2009 at 8:25 am
bucslim: You are right. They taped him but didn’t use his voice. My error on that.
April 28th, 2009 at 8:48 am
See the article below:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A3404611
April 28th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Eugene – didn’t know that about Lennon on Money, and I hate to disagree with you pal, but it was McCartney’s guitarist who said that line.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:02 am
When the Beatles recorded ‘All You Need Is Love’ live and broadcast via satellite around the world, wasn’t that another ‘first’ or something?
April 28th, 2009 at 11:25 am
178: Lifeschool,
Yes it was, It was first performed by The Beatles on Our World, the first live global television link. Broadcast to 26 countries and watched by 400 million, the programme was broadcast via satellite on June 25, 1967.
April 28th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
bucslim (177) Paul’s guitarist Henry McCullough said that line (“I don’t know. I was really drunk at the time.”) This was in reference to a fight he had with his wife.
I was thinking about the Irish doorman at Abbey Road named Gerry O’Driscoll who said, ” There is no dark side of (in) the moon. Matter of fact, It’s all dark.”
BTW I’m not a guy. I picked “Eugene” cuz of “Careful With That Axe, Eugene. I’m an old fan of “Verse. We’ve chatted many times old friend.
April 29th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Eugene – that’s the second time I’ve branded someone a dude, when in fact they are a skirt. My apologies. My Spidey sense doesn’t seem to work on gender.
Did you go by another nom de plume previously that you’re hiding? Or perhaps my age and bad memory are getting in the way?
I guess I should just be happy a girl is actually addressing me.
April 29th, 2009 at 7:01 am
180. Eugene (or whomever you usually are)
Ummagumma is one of my favorite albums of all time, as a matter of fact I have my original copy stashed at the folks. It probably hasn’t been played in 25 years!
If you respond – I have a heartbreaker of a story concerning this exact thing.
April 29th, 2009 at 7:02 am
119. & 137 BongoShaftsbury
well, I never thought that my pick up line was racist. also, many musicians will satate that the Beatles show obvious influence by the blues, jazz, & other ‘colored’ musicians prior to their time. I also believe that “true rock & roll” has been influenced of rhythm, blues & bluegrass.
“How is ringrail’s comment not racist?”
oh, and Scooby -Doo, it’s RINGTAILROXY not ‘ringrail’.
& I am in an interracial couple. so nah.
ringtailroxy
April 29th, 2009 at 7:21 am
TEX I have “Piper at the Gates of Dawn” on vinyl. But right now I don’t have a good enough working record player. Oh well.
I’d like to hear your story.
Bucslim: Follow your intuition. You are correct in your assumptions.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:35 am
If songs change your life then you need to kill yourself.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:19 am
184. Eugene
I have that one too, also A Saucerful of Secrets – ditto on the record player, need to get that resolved soon, wouldn’t want to damage these jewels with a bad needle.
On to the sad story –
One night, many years ago, I was sitting in my room listening to my crappy little AM radio. They were playing Steppenwolf’s “Magic Carpet Ride”, and at the ending the DJ blurts “alrighty, what listener can tell me the name of the lead singer of Steppenwolf, for free tickets to their upcoming concert, I’ll take the sixth caller.”
I had read the album cover notes a hundred times, so I walk down the hall and pick up the phone, dial, rings, answers, “yes………well?”
Shocked to be talking to the DJ – “John Kay?” – “you got it, hold and we’ll get your info.”
Cut to the concert – guess who is playing with Steppenwolf??? You got it – PINK FLOYD!!! The Ummagumma Pink Floyd – the pre-Dark Side of the Moon Pink Floyd!!!
A true once in a lifetime performance – so out comes the stage announcer “ladies and gentlemen, we are sorry to announce that Pink Floyd’s equipment was ripped off in New Orleans and has cancelled the remainder of its US tour”
That was the heartbreaker – I think about it to this day. I could have heard Careful With That Axe Eugene, Astronomy Domine, Interstellar Overdrive, live, LIVE.
Played by the original Pink Floyd, Syd’s Pink Floyd.
Syd was gone by then, but it was still very much his sound.
Now I know that god hates me.
To be blunt – I loved Syd Barrett’s Pink Floyd, I truly believe that they lost their edge, the Syd edge, starting with Dark Side of the Moon – they sold out – went commercial. I couldn’t develpoe an interest in their stuff from then on. So you’ll understand why I was, and still am upset about not seeing this concert – as far as I am concerned, Pink Floyd died not long after it.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:22 am
183 RTR: many musicians will state that the Beatles show obvious influence by the blues, jazz, & other ‘colored’ musicians prior to their time.
It’s common knowledge that many of the so-called British Invasion bands were heavily influenced by earlier American Chicago and Delta blues (also fostered by Alexis Korner), as well as the likes of Chuck Berry and Little Richard. Blues great Elmore James is specifically referenced in Harrison’s For You Blue. Also, as the story goes, it was Keith Richards noticing and befriending Jagger because he was carrying a couple of blues records around (the Stones are named after a Muddy Waters song btw).
I never thought that my pick up line was racist.
Surely you are aware, it is a line right out of Pulp Fiction (deleted scene)?
April 29th, 2009 at 10:23 am
160. bigski, oouchan
Was watching HELP! on the indy channel the other night. The segment where they play “Another Girl” (I ran it back 3 times), listen to George, man he was good.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Tex-His singing,playing and songwriting was underated because of Lennon/McCartney.But he was a force on his on.He`s no Clapton but he was in the top ten IMHO. I think Taxman & While My Guitar Gently Weeps(speaking of Clapton) are just as good as most of Lennon/McCartney songs.
Not to take anything from them. No one has surpassed them or probably will.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Just seen link.Looks like Paul is about to accidently strum a boobie while playing that girl like a guitar.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:02 am
TEX:
Your mention of HELP! reminds me of a bit of trivia, typical of Lennon’s sly sense of humor – have you ever noticed the fleeting scene in Hard Day’s Night where John puts a Coke bottle up to his nose to simulate snorting it as if he was doing a line of cocaine? I chuckle every time I see it. It’s quite an early drug reference by them, pre psychedelic era when they were still being promoted as squeeky clean, which undoubtedly many un-hip parents didn’t notice at the time.
I think this is a clip of it (I can’t verify it at the moment because it won’t run on the computer I’m using right now):
April 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
TEX: Thanks for the link!
bigski: I agree with you. George was very much thrust into the background. (btw, he was my favorite one!)
I had to run back the vid again after your second comment just to make sure. You are right about that!hmmmmmm….also looked like he was jerking off her arm.
(can’t believe I just said that)
April 29th, 2009 at 11:14 am
oouchan (192) George was the cutest one in my opinion, too.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Maggot-Towards the end someone is handing George a Pepsi looks like.This link shows still pictures from the movie and it`s production I think.Very cool .Thanks.
oouchan- What ever he`s doing it looks like FUN. Ha.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:32 am
While My Guitar Gently Weeps (on a Uke – brilliant)
I heard that The Florescent Leech and Eddie were touring with a ukulele player – don’t know if this is the guy or not – Jake Shimabukuro
Sorry you can’t see it Maggot.
Were you talking about HELP! Or A Hard Day’s Night?
April 29th, 2009 at 11:33 am
diogenes eye, the Beatles concert at the Hollywood Bowl, as seen and heard from the trees surrounding the Bowl, was more of an auditory experience than a visual one…though I had a really good pair of binoculars with me and could zoom in on the fab four to a reasonable distance. Heck, I was 13, what difference did it make? I was there! There were four opening acts. I remember Jackie de Shannon and the Righteous Brothers. The other two have been lost in the mists of time (I could look them up, but that wouldn’t be a memory). From the trees we got good, actually better, sound than the audience. The audience was screaming and jumping all over the place, not something you can do whilst hiding in a tree. From the trees the screaming was not amplified and was being directed away from us, therefore not much of a bother.
It was a magnificent evening despite the bus ride home, explaining to my parents why I was out way pass my curfew, why I was somewhere I had not gotten permission to be (because I knew I would not have gotten permission and, even at that tender age, was of the opinion that it was easier to get forgiven than get permission). So I was grounded for a month.
Big whoop. I’d seen the Beatles!
The Beatles at Dodger Stadium.
When The Beatles were back, in 1966, appearing at Dodger Stadium, my friend Linda and I got two of the 45,000 tickets sold to the event. Linda’s dad worked in the music biz and managed to score us tix right in front of the stage, first row! I remember the entire field being surrounded by cyclone fencing, hard up against the seating so that no one could run onto the field. There was a huge white tent in the rear of the stage. The stage itself was very big, I remember it being rectangular, but that could be a trick of memory.
There were, of course several opening acts. I remember Cyrkle and the Ronettes, there were others, too…my memory keeps saying Stone Pony, but I can’t see how.
Anyway, when the Beatles came on it became pandemonium! All these stupid girls screaming, screaming, screaming! I felt like screaming “Shut up!” I had come to hear them play and sing live, and it was almost impossible over the idiotic screaming. I was upset, at first, then I just tuned my self into the music (it was very difficult, but I managed), and enjoyed the rest of the show.
When the concert was over, the Beatles ran off stage into the white tent. From the rear of the tent, exited a white limo with blacked out windows, an ambulance, and an armored vehicle. They all disappeared down a shaft through the stadium and an announcement came, “The Beatles have left the Stadium”.
That’s when I cried.
Linda and I hugged each other and cried.
I was crying with happiness, with relief, with the sheer joy of living.
I don’t know why Linda was crying. I didn’t ask. I assumed it was personal.
I kept my ticket, but somewhere, probably during some move over the next 30 years, it disappeared. It doesn’t matter. It was a piece of cardboard. I have the real thing inside my head.
April 29th, 2009 at 11:45 am
194 bigski: eh wrong clip then (still cool apparently, glad you liked it!). I’ll have to look for the actual scene later, unless someone else is interested enough to find and post it. It is definitely John, not George, that did it. Btw, that’s part of the trivia, that it really was a Pepsi bottle, not a Coke bottle.
195 TEX: it’s a scene in AHDN.
April 29th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
it’s my understanding (perhaps someone has stated this already) that EMI studios was known informally as `Abbey Road’ long before the Beatles named their last album for it.
More, in fact, everyone referred to it as such, just as everyone refers to the double-LP `The Beatles’ as the `White Album’ – in fact no one refers to it as `The Beatles’ at all.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
(186)That is quite the story. I too very much enjoy the Syd Barret days. I have “The Madcap Laughs” and a pic of him on my dresser. “Saucerful of Secrets” is one of my faves. I don’t have it on vinyl tho. Just the cd.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Whig-More controversy is whether Abby Road or Let It Be was their last album . To me it matters not. I like both albums.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Grounded for a month eh? That’s pretty harsh.
I hope you didn’t play your records real loud the whole time through in retaliation at your persecutors and by the end of the month found that they had become terribly reactive to the subliminal messages leaking through the speakers?
=naw, I’m just kidding.
I once climbed a tree covered in spanish moss overlooking a southern U.S. zoo’s zebra habitat to view Jimmy Cliff on stage. And all I knew about him and his music was from “The Harder They Come” movie. I heard he was in town and I had some friends visiting so what better way to enjoy part of an evening.
I have witnessed full grown humanlike slugs attempt to scale a 10ft stone wall to get to where the Dalai Lama was making his grand appearance in Central Park, NYC.
Come to think of it…I am now taken back to one time when I was a wee lad, going over to my mother’s boyfriend’s house to get my mother’s boyfriend’s son to go dirtbike riding on his motorcycle and I had called just minutes before hand and he knew I was on my way. There was no answer by doorbell and repetitive knocking so I went around back to where his bedroom window was…but it was way too high so I had to stand on the outdoor cooling unit and try and jump up to the ledge and rap on the glass. It was just out of reach. The neighbor above opened his window and demanded “What do you think YOU are doing?”
Anyway back to The Beatles.
My point being that the experience surrounding the action can become better than the object of intended focus. But it can all depend on the direction applied. and blah blah blah, if the timing is right and unpredictable circumstances alter plans , what is supposed to be an ideal THIS THING becomes an entirely REMEMBERED THIS THING, which becomes a new ideal.
-or not.
-just a little something i’m working on.
Thanks for sharing your story segue, and also the effort at recollecting the experience for one out of 44 thousand and 999 others.
April 29th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Anyone who can remember what happened at rock concert`s from the 60`s & 70`s. Is a better man or woman than me !
Going in and about halfway through was a little fuzzy.
When Angus started bending strings,everything started to be more cool.
Seen the Rolling Stones in Memphis (1975) but was to young for the Beatles. Was 9 when they quit touring. Sucks for me.
Have a nice night.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Ringtailroxy #183, I know your question isn’t racist,that was a stupid comment of mine. You do realize of course, asking people whether they prefer Elvis or the Beatles, breaks down into more than two types. There are people who dislike them both, or love them both so much, they will refuse to answer. There people who are ambivalent about them, maybe some hate one and kind of like the other. Then there are people who overthink the question.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
bigski, TEX: Re my #191 – here’s the clip. It’s actually the complete first 7 minutes of the movie, but the coke scene is 5:18 in.
April 29th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
196 Segue: So I was grounded for a month. Big whoop. I’d seen the Beatles!
Lol no kidding, well worth ANY punishment. Awesome story.
Re the Dodger Stadium show, here’s some info I have on it, to help fill some gaps in your memory if you are interested:
The two opening acts were the Remains, and Bobby Hebb (whoever they were), then Cyrcle and the Ronettes, as you correctly recalled.
Their ’66 tour set list:
Rock And Roll Music
She’s A Woman
If I Needed Someone
Day Tripper
Baby’s In Black
I Feel Fine
Yesterday
I Wanna Be Your Man
Nowhere Man
Paperback Writer
I’m Down
Long Tall Sally (not sure if they played this song at Dodger; they didn’t always end with this song during this tour, but they did close with it the next night at their Candlestick Park final show.)
Interestingly, they had finished recording and released Revolver earlier in the year, but they didn’t play any songs from that album. They didn’t even rehearse for the tour…a telling sign that they were growing weary of touring and also their music was becoming increasingly difficult to play live.
April 30th, 2009 at 7:02 am
204. Maggot
Thanks for that.
Must have seen that a dozen times and never noticed, he was even laughing when he did it. It slipped my mind yesterday but I DVR’ed AHDN three weeks ago, it’ll be my Sunday morning movie this weekend.
April 30th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Maggot-204- Thanks for the link. A very funny movie.
April 30th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Lynne was trying to continue “I am the Walrus” with ELO- that was the song that triggered things with him, not “Strawberry Fields Forever.”
April 30th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
diogenes, Maggot, everyone who enjoyed my Beatles memories: While I was sitting in that tree at the Hollywood Bowl, all 13 years of me, was when I made the decision to find a way to attend every concert I wanted to see for as long as I wanted to see them.
That’s why I have so many concert memories. Living in Los Angeles/Hollywood, I had access to just about everyone, and I made my promise to myself come true…going so far as to attend Monterey! I had a crazy adolescence that I would not trade for any amount of money, and memories to keep me young forever.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Mark the thing about Zep and the Beatles being greater than Limp Bizkit is simple: Limp Bizkit has nil creativity and musical skill compared to either of the two. Wes Borland has talent, I know that because who didn’t like Limp Bizkit when they were a kid; but the fact of the matter when it comes to music whether what sells on the radio or not is musicianship and skill and creativity. Go listen to the progression of Beatles’ albums, i.e. A Hard Day’s Night to Rubber Soul, or listen to any Zeppelin album in terms of the pure skill and musicianship AND creativity of the song itself. Limp Bizkit doesn’t hold a candle to any of those categorical flames.
April 30th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Wes Borland was the only talented one with his bass.*
May 1st, 2009 at 1:56 am
I’m sorry, but aside from Norwegian Wood and Twist and Shout I can’t listen to the Beatles. I just have never been able to understand what people like about them. I don’t mind that people enjoy them…everyone is entitled to their tastes, but the Beatles just aren’t mine.
May 1st, 2009 at 6:42 am
212. Idreno
Best explanation – you are listening out of context.
Most Beatle fans understand what was going on musically during any one period of time. You are comparing them to the base of music you have developed to your taste in your own mind. If you can go back and listen year by year and compare their work to the popular music of that year,fror instance, you probably will develop an understanding why so many people in the world consider them one of the paradigm groups of all time. Also you would discover a lot of other groups of that period that were great, that got little if any air play, now or then – call it music history 101.
May 1st, 2009 at 7:05 am
210. mattofutexas:…Go listen to the progression of Beatles’ albums, i.e. A Hard Day’s Night to Rubber Soul
213. TEX: If you can go back and listen year by year and compare their work to the popular music of that year,fror instance
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You boys tool the words right out of my mouth (and I really wish you’d stop doing that! Have you *seen* the swine flu stats lately?).
Todays music lover can only understand yesterdays music in all of it’s glory by doing exactly what you suggest…unless they are born with good taste. (jk kids!)…my folks didn’t get my music either!
Odd though, because I “got” so much of theirs.
May 1st, 2009 at 7:49 am
Let’s put it this way: `Let it Be’ was their last original *release* as a group; Abbey Road, their last *recording*.
both statements are completely true.
May 1st, 2009 at 9:28 am
214. segue
What I got from my folks was 78rpm records of Big Band music – LUCKY ME, and I’m serious.
Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, the Dorseys, Harry James, Gene Krupa, Lionel Hampton and many others.
Picture a kid sitting in the living room on rainy days, playing those old 78’s. The great thing is – they’re still there, in the old mono phonograph console my parents bought when they were first married.
May 1st, 2009 at 9:43 am
216. TEX! Me too! Add to that The Ink Spots, Monk, Patsy Cline. Unfortunately they weren’t into classical, but I certainly got a lesson in Big Band and Jazz! I still love both, and have quite a collection of both.
I learned to love classical in grammar school, where once a week, for 8 years, they piped in a classical music program. We listened in complete silence to the music, and drew whatever the music made us think of; it could be representative or abstract, as long as it accurately portrayed our emotions.
Manohman! Did I love that hour!
May 1st, 2009 at 10:01 am
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart – Symphony No. 25 in G minor
probably the greatest passage ever written by man
May 1st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
218 TEX: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart – Symphony No. 25 in G minor probably the greatest passage ever written by man
Hmm I think you are forgetting about In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.
May 1st, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I have a little over a hundred classical pieces on my iPod from Bach to Mozart to Tchaikovsky, I have to say that I love Bach’s Toccata and Fugue in D minor. I have it twice on my iPod…one played with a full symphony orchestra and the other played on a large pipe organ.
However, I do not have In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly. My bad….
May 1st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
220. oouchan:.. However, I do not have In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida by Iron Butterfly. My bad….
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When I was first in Uni. I would go to a small club, called Middle Earth, where the house band was an as yet unknown group named Iron Butterfly.
May 1st, 2009 at 8:28 pm
221. segue: I’m jealous! I would love to have seen that. The only band I saw before they got big was the Blues Travelers.
I have now made up for my lapse in music and added Iron Butterfly to my ipod.
May 1st, 2009 at 8:56 pm
segue, oouchan: RIP Erik Braunn
Ok segue, I am going to be disappointed if you didn’t go see the pre-fame Doors at the Whiskey.
May 2nd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
223. Maggot, Of course I did! I was underage, but I was a model and had the right “look”, so I got away with a lot.
I was dancing no more than 3 feet away from Jim Morrison, and he was (at that time) the hottest hunk of male flesh I had ever seen!
Oh, Maggot! I really did have a fabulous adolescence. I was just born in the right place at the right time with a love for music and an over-riding desire to see every group, and orchestra, and ballet company I could find a way to see…and I was very innovative about getting in to see them all.
May 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
“To this day, the effect is called flanging – some people claim that it is named after pressing the flange wheel on a reel to reel tape deck, but if you tried that on a professional tape deck, you’d lose a finger!”
That’s not true at all. You’d only lose a finger if it was in fast forward or rewind. Otherwise the flanging effect is generated by putting pressure on the flange.
May 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
225. Seanithan:…”some people claim that it is named after pressing the flange wheel on a reel to reel tape deck…”
*… Otherwise the flanging effect is generated by putting pressure on the flange*
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Did I miss something?
May 3rd, 2009 at 10:04 am
Comment 198:
Yes, the studio was known as “Abbey Road” informally and was “officially” renamed after the album was released. It may be that the Beatles themselves didn’t know the official name of the studio, in interviews Paul & George refer to Abbey Road. What’s interesting to me is how famous it made the studio – it must be by far the most famous studio in the world.
May 4th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
I swear there is nothing worse than a musical snob. If a particular band or type of music makes someone happy, what’s wrong with that?
This is a great list but I just have a couple of bones to pick. In item six, it says that Columbia was the label that didn’t want to release “I Want To Hold Your Hand” when it was indeed Capitol Records. The Beatles were released on the Vee-Jay, Tollie and Swan (which was owned by Dick Clark by the way) labels before then.
Also, “Abbey Road” was their last album. “Let It Be” started out as a concept album and movie to be called “Get Back” which would show them creating their next album form start to finish with it all ending up with a live performance to promote it. That’s why the film “Let It Be” exists even though it has been out of print for years. But, by that time, the pressures of being them were starting to get to them and they could barely stand being around each other. So the project was shelved with hundreds of hours or recorded material. After “Abbey Road” was released, Apple and EMI needed to sell some product but the Beatles had broken up by that point. So they gave the tapes to Phil Spector to dress up and release. That’s why there are so many strings and such on “The Long And Winding Road” for instance. Check out “Let It Be…Naked” if you can and you will get an idea as to how this project was supposed to turn out.
Finally, anyone who says the Beatles were overrated or are treated too much like Gods, were never around when they first burst onto the scene. Like them or not, no one can dispute that they truly were a phenom. I can still remember were I was when they first appeared on The Ed Sullivan Show.”
Other than that, a great list as usual. The corrections are just me being anal. Thanks.
May 4th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Hi Don – please stop putting the links to your blogs at the end of each post. It puts your comments into moderation and I have to delete them as we have a no-signatures policy here.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:17 am
210. mattofutexas : That post was one simple, subjective opinion passed off as educated, objective fact. Limp Bizkit combine many instruments together to make something that the younger generations – including myself – enjoy, who are you to say it’s ‘bad’ per se?
I can understand the nostalgia – and hey, Page was a better guitarist – but credit where credit is due, even if you can’t stand the stuff.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:56 am
Hi Jfrater – I apologize for the links. I didn’t realize you had that policy. Just trying to drum up some business for my blogs – no harm intended. Keep up the good work.
May 5th, 2009 at 6:07 am
228 Don, thanks for your comments, I’ve been kicking myself over saying Columbia – I don’t know how to correct lists to fix it though.
I’m sticking to Abbey Road being their last in the sense it was their last recorded album. During Let It Be, George Harrison had left the band but came back to finish the project. George Martin was convinced that was the end and was a bit sad that it was going to end on a low note. However, the Beatles met up and decided to make one more good album and recorded Abbey Road, apparently harmoniously – partly because it was likely to be their last album. As the band considered it their last album, I also think it’s their last one.
May 5th, 2009 at 10:36 am
232 – apepper, Well, you are right saying that “Abbey Road” was their last album and it’s always been my favorite by them. I think it’s a complete masterpiece. “Sgt. Pepper’s” ranks a close second but to me, “Fixing A Hole” and “Getting Better” always took away from it in my opinion. It was originally supposed to have “Strawberry Fields” and “Penny Lane” on but again, the market ruled. EMI had to nothing by them to sell for that year’s Christmas so they released them on a single. What an amazing album that would have made.
I have always also been amazed that they were able to get it together to record “Abbey Road” at all considering the pressures within the group. I think you are right when you say that they all took the attitude that it was going to be the last hurrah, as it were. It’s fun to speculate what kind of music they would have made if they had stayed together though.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
233 Don: I have always also been amazed that they were able to get it together to record “Abbey Road” at all considering the pressures within the group.
Not only to record it, but have it result in such a masterpiece, as you say. It is so counter to the typical band life-cycle where towards the end of their discography, it is very apparent that creative juices have petered out. Not so with these lads, not by a wide margin.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
234~ Maggott- You are correct sir. I think they at least 2 or 3 platinum albums left in the lads. George was just coming on strong when they split.Something in the Way & Here Comes the Sun from Abby Road and his contribution on the white album speak for themselves. The post Beatles albums by Paul & John. I think they had a lot more in them.
Oh well.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
The Beatles were created by the Nazis by cloning JEWISH HOLOCAUST PRISONERS and harvesting hundreds of babies. Source of “Paul is Dead” rumors happened when one of the Pauls actually died and another clone took his place, it has been proven that clues have been left to confirm Death of Paul, for there have been DOZENS OF IMPOSTERS over the years for each Beatle, and that JOHN LENNON DID NOT DIE ONLY A SINGLE CLONE DID. Listen to Beatles records for clues!!! Magical Mystery Tour costumes really subtle metaphor for IMPOSTER TRUTH, all Beatles dressed up as animals which PROVES CONNECTION BETWEEN ROBO-ANIMAL ALLIANCE AND THE IMPOSTER CONSPIRACY!!!!!. REVOLVER album made because Lennon clone died of Mark David Chapman’s REVOLVER shooting at him, evidence of BEATLE WITCHCRAFT AND PROPHECY, utilizing LSD and hallucinogenics to contact the dead and restore order to our local galaxy because UFO TRANSMITTED THOUGHTS UNDERSTOOD BEATLE SONGS and this is why John Lennon wrote the song “Across the Universe” as a message for the Extra-Terrestials he contacted, the ETs had a role for him to play that of a MESSIAH for JOHN LENNON = SPACESHIP JESUS IN THE FLESH, his soul was remotely experienced by ASTRONAUT JESUS USING LIFE-SUN-LIGHT-HELMET ON BOARD THE SPACESHIP JESUS CRAFT ITSELF as Spaceship Jesus used BEATLES AND LENNON IRONICALLY because since they were created by NAZI CHIEFS to propogandize and control young people, the immaculate Spaceship Jesus rightfully turned the Beatles against their masters and CONTROLLED JOHN LENNON’S THOUGHTS…ALL LENNON CLONES WERE OPERATED BY SPACESHIP JESUS 50+ MILLION LIGHT YEARS AWAY WHILE ORBITING AROUND BETELGEUSE. Betelgeuse is a star in the orion constellation, SPACESHIP JESUS BUILT A BASE ON THE STAR TO TRANSMIT MESSAGES TO EARTH this is what I learned in November 1987 and the following year the movie “BEETLEJUICE” WAS RELEASED but it cannot be a COINCIDENCE but that movie contained more messages…SANDWORMS OF SATURN IS ACTUALLY TRUE..RAISING DEAD USING CALYPSO MUSIC WHICH PROVES THAT VOODOO IS TRUE…ONLY TRUE ZOMBIE IS SPACESHIP JESUS BUT VOODOO IS A PERVERTED ATTEMPT TO MAKE BLACK JESUS-ZOMBIES IN SERVICE OF BLACK SLAVEMASTERS…Baron Samedi was given power over the dead by virtue of SPACESHIP JESUS LOVE AND MERCY even though BARON IS BLACK AND A RACIST AGAINST ALL NON-BLACKS, (Baron Davis is named after him and he uses voodoo power to dominate the NBA out of sick Homosexual support of course), but the love of Spaceship Jesus shines through despite all obstacles….AND THAT IS THE MESSAGE THAT JOHN LENNON PREACHED TO THE WORLD!!!!! Praise be John Lennon and Praise be Spaceship Jesus!!!!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Dr. Bart Huygens (236) I hope you do not live in my neighborhood.
May 8th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
#236^ Dr. B.H.- That rant would make a good Frank Zappa album.
May 12th, 2009 at 7:16 am
Compare The Beatles to Led Zeppelin?
Surely that’s a joke?
After all, most of what Led Zeppelin put out was just other people’s music, either repackaged or completely ripped off!
Stairway To Heaven; Dazed And Confused; The Lemon Song; Nobody’s Fault But Mine etc. etc. etc. etc. – you think they wrote all those?
I could go on and on and on ….
May 12th, 2009 at 7:22 am
239. Joebah : Seriously buddy, learn your music history before dragging the plagurism crap into this.
May 13th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
anything that is good, that has been said, or wrote, or spoke about the Beatles, has been said already and will be said again an again. (carry that weight along time) x-SAILOR68
May 17th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
For all the people bitching about which band is better, screw you man Pink Floyd is the shit, so is Led Zeppelin, The Kinks are freakin’ awesome, The Who = greatness and The Beatles are the bomb. Peace
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 am
I’d like to pose a question to Led Zeppelin fans: does anyone else think there was a drastic decline in their musical quality after their 4th album? I’ve posed this question to Zep fans before and they always seem to dodge giving me a direct answer.
I loved Led Zep through their first 4 albums. When I bought their 5th, “Houses of the Holy”, I was dumbfounded. What was this nonsense? The only tune that sounded like Zep to me was ‘The Ocean’; the rest sounded like out-takes that would have never have made the cut for the first four albums. And the situation seemed to get progressively worse with each following album (with the exception of a few really good tunes like ‘Kashmir’). “Presence” was virtually unlistenable.
I love The Who, but the same thing happened to them as well, basically after the “Quadrophenia” album. “Who Are You”, “Face Dances” and “It’s Hard” are really weak albums when compared to what they had done before. Similarly, the Kinks – another awesome band – went through a really dry spell during their years at RCA (with the exception of the wonderful “Muswell Hillbillies” album).
The Beatles always had a high standard of quality, save for the “Let It Be” album (though McCartney’s contributions are all excellent).
Quick note, someone has already pointed out that the Beatles’ American label was Capitol, not Columbia. In the same vein, of those small American labels that released Beatles records in 1963-1964, the label that originally released ‘She Loves You’ was Swan, not “Swann” (who were still re-releasing the single as late as 1967).
In closing, to perhaps start another debate, I believe “Sgt. Pepper” to be one of the Beatles’ weakest albums. Great album artwork and a few knockout tunes on it, but really not comparable to UK versions of “Revolver”, “Rubber Soul” or even “A Hard Day’s Night”.