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	<title>Comments on: 10 Fascinating Angels and Demons</title>
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		<title>By: Gabryel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabryel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the NIV of the bible and other modern translatins is somewhat corrupt . they are quite saying that jesus is lucifer . if you guys do alot more research , you will get what im trying to say ..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the NIV of the bible and other modern translatins is somewhat corrupt . they are quite saying that jesus is lucifer . if you guys do alot more research , you will get what im trying to say ..</p>
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		<title>By: antonlavey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[antonlavey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 18:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No question lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No question lol.</p>
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		<title>By: spinert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spinert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 13:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frater H is L.Ron Hubbard what a mad twist!!! lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frater H is L.Ron Hubbard what a mad twist!!! lol</p>
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		<title>By: YESSIIR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YESSIIR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 02:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on what facts? what an interesting deduction. Funny how those who see fault in what they don&#039;t understand deny and condemn it. Interesting way to percieve the world.

immature simplton. If we all lived with your mind:
&quot;i saw a man beating up his child, all men must be a**holes&#039;
&quot;i saw a child acting selfish ALL children are selfish&quot;

So dont insult what others may or may not believe for what right do you have to decide whats true or not? huh? I don&#039;t know you personally, but if your comment reflects your personality, i feel sorry for those who know you.

So in conclusion, I BELIEVE YOU ARE STUPID, AND ALSO **** YOU!
&quot;it&#039;s elementary my dear watson&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on what facts? what an interesting deduction. Funny how those who see fault in what they don&#8217;t understand deny and condemn it. Interesting way to percieve the world.</p>
<p>immature simplton. If we all lived with your mind:<br />
&#8220;i saw a man beating up his child, all men must be a**holes&#8217;<br />
&#8220;i saw a child acting selfish ALL children are selfish&#8221;</p>
<p>So dont insult what others may or may not believe for what right do you have to decide whats true or not? huh? I don&#8217;t know you personally, but if your comment reflects your personality, i feel sorry for those who know you.</p>
<p>So in conclusion, I BELIEVE YOU ARE STUPID, AND ALSO **** YOU!<br />
&#8220;it&#8217;s elementary my dear watson&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Satan is real,he is hunting for our soul,be careful he is the one who make us sin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satan is real,he is hunting for our soul,be careful he is the one who make us sin</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victoria Nicole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 16:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look up the histroy of the church... and read the bible... Not just a few verses read all of it. I&#039;m ex mormon was born into it and baptized at eight years old, now I&#039;m all grown up and can think for me self.... The book of Mormon is fabricated.  Maybe not by Joseph smith himself completly, but by satan, to confuse mislead and take away from the bible, which takes away from Jehovah God.... Read the bible and pray.... I can assure you, you won&#039;t feel the devils burning in the bosom when you understand the bible the feeling is more loving and joyeous...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look up the histroy of the church&#8230; and read the bible&#8230; Not just a few verses read all of it. I&#8217;m ex mormon was born into it and baptized at eight years old, now I&#8217;m all grown up and can think for me self&#8230;. The book of Mormon is fabricated.  Maybe not by Joseph smith himself completly, but by satan, to confuse mislead and take away from the bible, which takes away from Jehovah God&#8230;. Read the bible and pray&#8230;. I can assure you, you won&#8217;t feel the devils burning in the bosom when you understand the bible the feeling is more loving and joyeous&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Huperniketes</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Huperniketes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll restrict my comment only to lucifer, as it&#039;s the most misunderstood but you&#039;ve done a fairly decent job of tying together various points and correcting some common misconceptions.

However, some further clarification and correction is necessary.

Lucifer, morning star and evening star were often used in ancient times to signify the same &quot;star&quot;: Venus. Morning star doesn&#039;t symbolize the fallen angel or &quot;evening star&quot; would&#039;ve been used. It signifies the beginning of the day, the division of darkness and light, and that which illuminates cannot be overcome by darkness.

First, you are correct that lucifer isn&#039;t the name of a fallen angel. But it wasn&#039;t his state so much as his title or office (like president or pope). It&#039;s a title given to one appointed by God to rule over earth. The officeholder is &quot;enlightened&quot; for his role, embodying God&#039;s knowledge, understanding and wisdom to govern earthly affairs. The authority of the office is backed with the power to enforce it, in part, with armor.

An angel was once appointed, but he was stripped of his authority when he attempted to assume God&#039;s place. So God created another being to oversee the planet–from earth itself and yet in God&#039;s image (which is what the angel sought to achieve). Talk about poetic justice!

And when God appointed the man as lucifer, the duties and limitations of the office were set. (GE 1:28-30). More detail was given in GE 2:15-17. &quot;And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.&quot; Why would man need to manage something God created? Wouldn&#039;t it have been flawless? Sure, but perfect systems need maintenance to keep from going out of control. The Hebrew word for dress was actually &quot;work&quot; and keep was &quot;hedge&quot;. It requires judgment to decide what, how much etc to keep it in line. 

Well the angel, being none too happy about this and still determined to defeat God, was able to convince his replacement to surrender his authority from God and obey the fallen angel instead. When this happened, the fallen angel assumed the authority and the armor of the man. (Ever wonder how Adam and Eve couldn&#039;t tell they were naked even though they could see the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was pleasant to look upon? And then all of a sudden they could see they were naked! Because they were stripped of their armor.)

This is why, when the devil tempted Jesus in the wilderness, he said, &quot;All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is _delivered_ unto me; and to whomsoever I will, I give it.&quot; (LK 4 :6)

But not only did Jesus refuse to assume title of lucifer this way, He prophesied how He would take it. &quot;When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.&quot; (LK 11:21, 22)

And He was able to achieve this by becoming sin, and accepting death; to be able to enter into the strong man&#039;s palace as a prisoner of death. But once there, He became born again (CO 1:18; RE 1:18.); and being Light itself, overcame the light-bearer and took the keys of hell and death. &quot;Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them, who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.&quot; (HE 2: 14, 15)

So Jesus has now redeemed man by His death and resurrection, and reclaimed man&#039;s original purpose as lucifer. To take dominion over the earth, replenish it, and purge it of that which isn&#039;t in right standing with God. (RO 5:17, 21; 1 CO 15: 20-26) &quot;And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations. And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star.&quot; (RE 1: 26-28)

&quot;…let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.&quot; (RO 13:12)

So who would want to convince us satan is still lucifer, and holds authority over the earth and the political process in it? &quot;And no marvel; for satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.&quot; (2 CO 11:14) To get you to drop resistance to his activities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll restrict my comment only to lucifer, as it&#8217;s the most misunderstood but you&#8217;ve done a fairly decent job of tying together various points and correcting some common misconceptions.</p>
<p>However, some further clarification and correction is necessary.</p>
<p>Lucifer, morning star and evening star were often used in ancient times to signify the same &#8220;star&#8221;: Venus. Morning star doesn&#8217;t symbolize the fallen angel or &#8220;evening star&#8221; would&#8217;ve been used. It signifies the beginning of the day, the division of darkness and light, and that which illuminates cannot be overcome by darkness.</p>
<p>First, you are correct that lucifer isn&#8217;t the name of a fallen angel. But it wasn&#8217;t his state so much as his title or office (like president or pope). It&#8217;s a title given to one appointed by God to rule over earth. The officeholder is &#8220;enlightened&#8221; for his role, embodying God&#8217;s knowledge, understanding and wisdom to govern earthly affairs. The authority of the office is backed with the power to enforce it, in part, with armor.</p>
<p>An angel was once appointed, but he was stripped of his authority when he attempted to assume God&#8217;s place. So God created another being to oversee the planet–from earth itself and yet in God&#8217;s image (which is what the angel sought to achieve). Talk about poetic justice!</p>
<p>And when God appointed the man as lucifer, the duties and limitations of the office were set. (GE 1:28-30). More detail was given in GE 2:15-17. &#8220;And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.&#8221; Why would man need to manage something God created? Wouldn&#8217;t it have been flawless? Sure, but perfect systems need maintenance to keep from going out of control. The Hebrew word for dress was actually &#8220;work&#8221; and keep was &#8220;hedge&#8221;. It requires judgment to decide what, how much etc to keep it in line. </p>
<p>Well the angel, being none too happy about this and still determined to defeat God, was able to convince his replacement to surrender his authority from God and obey the fallen angel instead. When this happened, the fallen angel assumed the authority and the armor of the man. (Ever wonder how Adam and Eve couldn&#8217;t tell they were naked even though they could see the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was pleasant to look upon? And then all of a sudden they could see they were naked! Because they were stripped of their armor.)</p>
<p>This is why, when the devil tempted Jesus in the wilderness, he said, &#8220;All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is _delivered_ unto me; and to whomsoever I will, I give it.&#8221; (LK 4 :6)</p>
<p>But not only did Jesus refuse to assume title of lucifer this way, He prophesied how He would take it. &#8220;When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace: But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.&#8221; (LK 11:21, 22)</p>
<p>And He was able to achieve this by becoming sin, and accepting death; to be able to enter into the strong man&#8217;s palace as a prisoner of death. But once there, He became born again (CO 1:18; RE 1:18.); and being Light itself, overcame the light-bearer and took the keys of hell and death. &#8220;Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them, who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.&#8221; (HE 2: 14, 15)</p>
<p>So Jesus has now redeemed man by His death and resurrection, and reclaimed man&#8217;s original purpose as lucifer. To take dominion over the earth, replenish it, and purge it of that which isn&#8217;t in right standing with God. (RO 5:17, 21; 1 CO 15: 20-26) &#8220;And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations. And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star.&#8221; (RE 1: 26-28)</p>
<p>&#8220;…let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.&#8221; (RO 13:12)</p>
<p>So who would want to convince us satan is still lucifer, and holds authority over the earth and the political process in it? &#8220;And no marvel; for satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.&#8221; (2 CO 11:14) To get you to drop resistance to his activities.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jackie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 01:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for your article on angels and demons very interesting indeed. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your article on angels and demons very interesting indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Katerzj</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Katerzj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe because they aren&#039;t fact? It&#039;s alright to used the word &quot;claimed,&quot; it just means it isn&#039;t irrefutable, absolute fact. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe because they aren&#039;t fact? It&#039;s alright to used the word &quot;claimed,&quot; it just means it isn&#039;t irrefutable, absolute fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Phill</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 03:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish somebody would do a list that drew upon ten similarities in most religions - I imagine seeing parallels drawn between Egyptian, Greek, Hindu, Christian, Muslim and Buddhist mythologies as being very interesting. I would do it, but I&#039;m too busy lately - though it strikes me that Angel and Demon-like entities appear in almost every major faith. Perhaps every religion, in referencing Gods and deities, are all referring to the same thing under different names.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish somebody would do a list that drew upon ten similarities in most religions &#8211; I imagine seeing parallels drawn between Egyptian, Greek, Hindu, Christian, Muslim and Buddhist mythologies as being very interesting. I would do it, but I&#8217;m too busy lately &#8211; though it strikes me that Angel and Demon-like entities appear in almost every major faith. Perhaps every religion, in referencing Gods and deities, are all referring to the same thing under different names.</p>
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