You may not remember it, but there was a time when sport had a purpose greater than entertainment and advertising. Early fencing, wrestling, archery, and pentathlon competitions trained troops in the practical arts of war. Later, sport refocused to improve physical fitness and impress women. But the following list shows places where modern sport has devolved into novel death wishes.
Climb a big hill on an open-for-business highway, lie supine on an elongated skateboard and roll down. Gather speed and try not to die. That’s going to be difficult because you have no brakes, you’re an inch from a road surface itching to see what bone marrow looks like, and you present a visual profile to passing vehicles that’s only slightly larger than a puddle. Which is what you’ll be if you have anything close to a lapse in concentration or luck.
There’s a reason some things are so inaccessible—it’s God’s way of saying, “Don’t be stupid”. Still, people pay top dollar to be helicoptered (at $500 a pop) to untouched snowcaps, where they leap onto virgin slopes and ski far from crowds but very close to avalanches. Even the helicopter ride can be dangerous, and many have died en route to untouched powder (Frank Wells, former president of The Walt Disney Co. died in a helicopter crash during a heli-skiing trip in 1994).
Let’s not get crazy here: nobody’s saying surfing isn’t fun and or that it isn’t a great excuse to get chicks in bikinis. But any sport with rules for when a shark enters the field of play is not for those with functioning frontal lobes. Big Wave Surfing cranks the dial to 11 by towing surfers into monster 50 ft waves strong enough to crush villages. So if the brute force of the wave doesn’t kill you or bury you so far underwater that you drown, you could still bash your head on submerged rocks or fail to avoid your own board (fickle thing!) hurtling past you like a Randy Johnson fastball. And where would that leave you at Frankie and Annette’s luau?
Rodeo started as the gymnastics of ranching: a series of highly specific competitions taken from key aspects of cattle ranching in the Old West. But there never was and never will be any damn reason to ride a bull: its only practical application is to make you appreciate your own job—even if you’re unemployed. Straddling 1800 pounds of leaping pissed-off beef (an effect achieved by constricting bovine genitals with rope, or TASERING) routinely results in the rider being thrown 10 feet into the air, with a landing cushioned by a mere inch of dirt and feces. And if you don’t break your jaw, ribs, or collarbone on re-entry, you still have that bull to worry about (he’s still bitter).
The Running of the Bulls (“encierro”) is a “sport” that involves running in front of bulls that have been let loose on a course of a town’s streets. There are actually several encierros, but the most famous is in Pamplona, Spain, and it was mentioned in Hemingway’s “The Sun Also Rises” and “Death in the Afternoon”. The purpose is to entice or herd the bulls from off-site corrals to the bullring. Any fool over eighteen with more bravado than brains (which would have included me at eighteen) can participate. Every year between 200 and 300 people are injured, mostly with contusions due to falls. Since 1910, 14 people have been killed in Pamplona’s Running of The Bulls.
Forget the wimps wearing pads and helmets- the real danger is on the sidelines, where estrogen and adrenaline combine in one of the newest recognized sports. It has been estimated that there are over 20,000 reported cheerleading injuries a year, making cheerleading the most injury-prone sport in the world for women. Many common injuries include broken legs and spinal injuries. Think about it—it’s like diving on land, with easily distracted co-eds serving as the water. I’m all for cute girls in skimpy outfits (especially those USC sweaters), but this sport has a lot of catching up to do, safety-wise.
Motorcycling is the most dangerous motorsport in the world. Just one example is The Isle of Man TT event, which has a rich 100-year history. But during that time, there have been over 220 deaths. The drivers in the race are required to maintain their balance while driving through all types of obstacles such as rocks and trees, and even bugs on their windscreens. This is all done while traveling at an extremely high rate of speed. And don’t get me started about all that X-Games crap. Remember, Travis Pastrana, it’s all fun and games until someone gets …
Let’s see: a sport that keeps fatality stats and has NO chance of women in bikinis. Nope, I’ll just buy the $945 North Face jacket and read “Into Thin Air”, thank you. Today, about one death occurs for every six successful summits on Everest, and each victim had to pass corpses on the way up. Real mountaineers face every threat you can imagine, up to and including drowning. Gravity must queue up for its chance to kill you, as hypoxia, hypothermia, frostbite and pneumonia all have prior reservations. Even a regular injury can be fatal, as rescue helicopters simply can’t get to you and your buddies may be too gassed to help. But if you do summit (you’ll probably have to wait in line), keep those glasses on or you’ll burn up your corneas from excess UV radiation. Kinda defeats the purpose, huh? To date, 179 out of 1,300 different Everest climbers have died, but mortality rates have started to decline since 1990.
You know, we used to call this behavior “attempted suicide”. BASE jumpers willingly hurl themselves from Buildings, Antenna, Spans, or Earth with nothing but a hand-deployed parachute to prevent “deceleration trauma.” In this game, there’s no need to keep score: the winner is the one who DOESN’T DIE. Lucky losers get slammed back into the object they just jumped off of or break everything they have made of, say, bone. Between 5 and 15 people die each year, according to Harry Parker of The International PRO BASE Circuit. This is sport is illegal almost everywhere, and with good reason. R.I.P. Slim.
The idea for this sport came as somebody was disposing of a body. Take all the regular hazards of diving (itself a dangerous activity), and add exploring uncharted territory, freezing temperatures, low-visibility conditions, and cramped quarters. And don’t forget that ticking clock on your air supply—you can’t just go “up” to breathe (risking “the bends”). On top of that, it’s still a wilderness experience, and some of the caves actually have wild animals living in them. According to a recovery team based in San Marcos, there have been more than 500 deaths from this sport since the 1960s. The risks are so high that experience affords little protection– many of these victims have been diving instructors and technical divers. As a result, the National Speleological Society defines a “successful” cave dive as “one you return from.” Perhaps they should follow that logic and define an “intelligent” cave dive as “one you don’t take”.
Calling cheerleading a sport or not depends on your definition of a sport. Personally, I don’t think anything that can be decided by a judge can be considered a sport. Things like gymnastics, diving, surfing, figure skating, and yes, cheerleading, are not sports. I am not saying that it doesn’t take an extreme amount of athletic ability to be proficient in those activites, but I don’t consider them sports.
@ilovebevo (64): I’m not disagreeing with you that cheerleading is not a challenging sport, I’m clarifying if it is as dangerous as many commment here say
I mean, are there staggering numbers of permanent wheelchair-bound/paralysis/spinal injuries/deaths in cheerleading?
yes there are. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbU_T6ZgQR4&fe… watch this.
Yes– the NSFW version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AvAiUFFCyo
Good point about the waves having the ability to kill you
why do so many people feel that the only things that qualify as “sports” are “competitive events with a set body of rules that determine a winner, and the winner is not declared by judges or ratings, only by the set rules.”
surely you all realize that even the “sports” that fit the above definition involve subjective judging- was a ball fair or foul? did a player just break a rule? etc.
i think you are confusing the fact that competitive games are sports, but not all sports are games…..
Parkour,Rugby,Football,Horse Jockey,Hunting? All of those are extremely dangerous as well and arent on here
I call a re-do!
Does anyone remember Olympic Barrel Jumping?
@ #111 Deekay
I would have loved to have cheered in CA (be it high school or college). But I guess TX isn’t too bad either. It was really weird going from a huge all girl squad in TX to a co-ed squad up in a midwestern state where they banned most stunting in HS. Yeah, it was a crazy change. Co-ed is totally fun though, I’ve never been tossed up as much as some of those guys can throw you! (I’m just glad that our spotters were doing their jobs!!!)
@121 FLGH
I think people have different definitions of danger. Perhaps danger means that you have to be paralyzed and even more so, fatality based, but danger to others may mean the sheer volumes of injuries per participant. If your definition of danger is the first, then sure, cheerleading is not as dangerous. But I think most of the girls (and guys) who have personally participated in cheerleading will have to say it is a dangerous sport as per the latter definition.
And I have numerous more injuries suffered from cheerleading than tennis and basketball combined. I spranged my back on the very last leg of my tumbling pass which I still feel to this day, got kicked in the head numerous times, dislocated my shoulder, and etc. At nationals, I have seen some girls miscount on their routines and have run into each other while doing tumbling passes. If you think that the percentage of injuries per participant is a factor in the definition of danger, then so be it. But I do believe, that if you calculate in the number of injuries to equate to danger, then cheerleading definitely should be on the list.
cheerleading facts are slightly skewed. As a competitive coach for more than 20 years this is what they DONT tell you. Many of the injuries that the girls get are done when they get home from practice. We tell them over and over not to but you get a group of 12 year old girls together at the pool or a birthday party and they are going to try to stunt on concrete and then mom and dad will go “no honey do it in the grass” and then sit on thier ass and watch as little heather falls and breaks her arm. Dont blame us.
The ONLY time any of my girls stunted without spotters is when we all knew exactly what we were doing and had done it hundreds of times with perfection.
Oh come on, I’m so damn tired of the Cheerleading argument!!!
BUT, motorcycle racing was ahead of it, and I’m about to take mine onto campus for class… I’ll have to go really really fast to release the rage.
@merrychristmascharliemanson (112):…I was an incredibly stupid child.
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Don’t worry about that, manson, stupidity is the natural condition of childhood.
I used to run around in the Los Angeles storm drain system, a system which could, at any moment, flood due to the maintenance workers opening the valves to lower the level in the dam, and bye-bye segues!
The other odd thing I found exciting was getting down under the train tracks suspended above the concrete flood control channel (the suspension was a two board walk-way for maintenance men) and wait for a train to go by over head. The walkway would sway and jerk mightily, and it was better than any ride at a carnival…except that failure meant certain death. But what eight year old thinks in those terms?
Children are either naturally stupid or are a different species altogether.
donkey kong country immediately came to mind when i saw cave-diving.
anybody else?
@BlueGrant (124): Hunting is only dangerous if you hunt with Dick Cheney.
@randomprecision24 (120): I don’t think anything that can be decided by a judge can be considered a sport.
That’s such a clichéd argument, driven more recently by the judging scandals in Olympic figure skating and all. But, the actual skating (for example) is still a sport. You are just taking issue with competitive aspect of it. I agree with @lo (123): . Some sports aren’t decided by anything. It’s just an activity.
I don’t consider them sports.
That’s your prerogative. But you’re wrong.
123 Lo: Well the difference is, if I was to watch a football, baseball, soccer, water polo, golf, any of those sports, I could tell who won.
If you watch a cheerleading competition or figure skating, any of those, You’re being told by a judge who is better. Even if you are a professional, you might have your opinion as to who won, but its up to a judge to tell you who won. It’s subjective and the judges are open to their personal biases and various other conditions.
132 Maggot: I agree with part of what you said: “It’s just an activity.”
@randomprecision24 (133):
lol – a *sporting* activity. Didn’t think I had to spell that out for you.
I have been cave diving and I love it. Mind you I dive in northern Ontario too, so I guess I’m a bit nuts.
@holly noelle (118): I guess what i mean is have a clear cut winner without a judge
@ General & Random Precision: What about sports like boxing, greco-roman wrestling, or even UFC? Sometimes there is a clear cut winner (knock-out, tap-outs, etc), but often you just wait for the judges to add up the points or whatever. Does that mean these are not sports either?
The guy they’re talking about in the TT video (number 3) is my 2nd cousin! Or something. The TT 2009 races were RUBBISH this year, and like 3 people died… two years ago the Japanese rider staying with us was killed. I can’t count on two hands the number of people I’ve known die in those damm races…
@deeeekay (137): Thats where it gets interesting. First of all I just want to point out that MMA (UFC) comes from Pankration where they would fight until there was a winner no matter how long it took. They even did that in the beginning of MMA (before there were rules and weight classes). But to answer your question simply, yes they are sports. For example in wrestling you get 2 points for a takedown and there are point values attached to other techniques so its not so much of a qualitative judgement as it is a quantitative one. Now from my understanding of cheerleading the judgement is qualitative, which I think makes it not a sport.
The way it works for cheer and things like gymnastics, is that you have a possible points value (10 is perfect) and as things are executed, you lose points for poor execution. I never competed in cheer, but my sis did gymnastics for years so I’m very familiar with the way the judging is done. For example, on say vault…Maximum point value is 10. Possible “moves” or “stunts” determine the difficulty, so if you do something easier (fewer flips or twists) it may only be worth 9.7 maximum or less even, so you lose points for going “easier.” You take a small step on the landing you lose .1 points, a large step is more, and falling down on the landing loses you .5 points I believe. Some points I can see as subjective (was that a big step or a small one, a little or big wobble, etc) but most things you lose points for are very much laid out objectively, it’s not just a matter of how “pretty” the routine was.
When my sis finally quit it was partly because she was too tall, at 5’10.” Among other issues,she couldn’t do uneven bars without losing points automatically, because she had to either bend her knees, or sweep her feet on the mat, both of which hit you with a deduction.
people, why is it that only “games” with “winners” are suddenly sports?
we’ve been over this.
what about platform diving, rock climbing, mountain biking (when not in a race), skateboarding, surfing, snowboarding, etc……
-none of these are sports suddenly?
by the “must have a winner, based only on points or crossing the finish line” standard, the only “sports” on this list are street luging and motorcycle racing: assuming they don’t all crash and die, someone will cross the finish-line first.
aren’t all “athletes” people who compete in “sports”? would you tell an olympic diver who trains 40+ hours a week that he isn’t really an athlete because he doesn’t compete in a “real” sport?
LOL its a tad strange how at no.5 you’ve got extremely dangerous bull running where people get trampled to death and smashed up and then comes no.4 and you’ve put down cheerleading. Random. Are there that many deaths in cheerleading? Damn, Americans really are stupid.
@lo (141): Ya thats exactly what Im saying. There needs to be a definite winner with no opinions involved. Rock climbing is pretty intense and awesome but its no sport.
@General Tits Von Chodehoffen (143): Rock climbing is pretty intense and awesome but its no sport.
Sports Illustrated magazine would beg to differ with you:
http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/cover/featured/8618/index.htm
Just give it up. You guys are wrong. Sorry.
@maggot
In the 1970′s, Sports Illustrated said that Foosball was a great sport. SI itself can be wrong as well!
Sorry, cheerleading and foosball are equally sports in the eyes of SI! How lame is that!
Lo (141) They are athletes, but they’re not in a sport. They’re in a competition. Truthfully, it comes down to a difference of opinion. Are the NCAA champion cheerleaders tremendous athletes? yes. Are they comepting in a sport? No. Agree to disagree.
And another thing, whats with the whole 37 different medals for the same thing? You have the gymnasts who can compete in 4 events as an individual, then an all-around, then all of it again as a part of a team. Is that really necessary? Not taking away anything from Michael Phelps, I admire him, but if you’re good at one type of swimming, it’s not like another type is going to be ridiculously difficult for you. Either way you’re swimming. I understand the difference between a marathon and a 100m dash, but do we really need to give out a 100m butterfly and a 100m breast stroke and a 100m freestyle? Is Phelps the greatest olympic athlete of all time? By medal count he is. But what about the soccer player or baseball player who is only eligible to win one medal every 4 years?
Just something to stir the waters…no pun intended.
@lo (141): lo, I agree with you, I just don’t believe that the presence of a judge is the requirement that defines a sport!
My daughter plays Rugby, is a surfer, a tri-athlete, and runs marathons. In the waters around where I live the ocean is constantly dotted with surfers, some of the hottest bodies you ever want to see in your life. These people are athletes (most scheduled manual jobs in our village have “surf days” built into them, just in case there is a particularly good surf day come along..no one minds).
When I was scripting in Hollywood, we’d often need stunt people, and rock-climbers were called for more often than you might imagine. Believe me these people are athletes, all lean muscle without an ounce of fat on their bodies.
Are we at the point where we differentiate between sportsmen and athletes? To what absurd end? A medal? A trophy?
WWE or
Backyard wrestling.
There’s a thing called neutrality, and this list lacks it. Rather than being skewed to the negative and get outright nasty about the sports, just state the facts without the slant. Your opinion would come through without you turning me off– which you totally did.
Would have been an interesting list otherwise.
@crash (145): SI itself can be wrong as well!
Well when you find an example of that, let me know.
http://www.foosball.org/
Quote: “The A.F.A. was established to promote the sport of Foosball into an Olympic event; Establish national goals for this amateur sport; and coordinate and develop activities in the United States directly relating to international competition.”
Honestly, I don’t know why you guys are so stubborn in trying to insist you are right, when clearly you are not. Do I have to trot out a dictionary definition of the word “sport” next? Just let it go man.
One question. How did Cheerleading (which isn’t USUALLY a sport) get onto this list but Gymnastics is not? The only reason people would get hurt in Cheerleading is because half of them are tipsy bimbos.
@Maggot (144): O ya I forgot that SI is always right… Listen just because you want cheerleading to be a sport does not make it one. My mom used to be a cheerleading coach and even she says it is not a sport. It is entertainment like pro wrestling is.
dangerous indeed!
Having an interest in caving, I’ve read a lot about cave diving, and definitely wouldn’t do it. However, I completely understand the appeal; there are many, many submerged caves that no one has ever been into. They’re some of the last places in the world that have never been explored.
Hi everyone, Jay K. here.
Glad to see that all of you love/hate the list. It’s going to be my last for a while, as I finally landed a job after 4 months of looking. Recessions suck. I hope yours is better than ours…
Yes, I used the term ‘sport’ loosely, because the point was that concept of sport is getting stretched wafer-thin, with the degree of danger so obvious you have to question the participants’ sanity.
PARKOUR
Excluded because it’s so freestyle. These guys are incredible gymnasts and daredevils. I could watch them all day. But put any type of judge in front of these reprobates and they run away. FAST.
CLIFF DIVING
For variety’s sake, I went with BASE jumping. Maybe list two (up for grabs–run with it!).
RUGBY
Rugby was #11. I couldn’t think of a better joke than “Rugby was never used to prepare troops for war- war is used to prepare troops for Rugby. As such, it doesn’t really belong on this list, but Rugby players are SCARY, and I don’t want to offend. Offending Rugby players is an acceptable form of capital punishment in Australia.”
AUSTRALIAN RULES FOOTBALL
Triple oxymoron?
CHEERLEADING
I included cheerleading because 20,000 injuries a year is a ton of ER trips. It was also shocking to see how unregulated it all is. The players on the field are padded up like astronauts, and gymnasts are smart enough to have mats underneath and trained spotters, but that YouTube girl was wearing practically nothing and landed on her SPINE. The shameful look on the broadcasters’ faces says it all.
*****ISM
“Getting chicks in bikinis” was a JOKE. Lighten up! I was referring to the advent of surfing as a socially accepted pretext to invite women to wear bikinis in a public setting. Sound as funny?
PANKRATION
To be honest, I had to look this up because it sounded like a fetish. It’s closest MODERN equivalent is Mixed Martial Arts, which uses padded gloves, onsite doctors, and referees who stop fights at the merest suspicion that a fighter is too hurt to continue.
RODEO
I live in Fort Worth, Texas, also known as “Cowtown”. I know several rodeo participants who have privately told me that they’ve seen stun guns used in the pens. Other than that, GOOGLE.
NEUTRALITY
My wiseass tone is meant to amuse and inform at the same time. You want neutrality, read an actuarial table.
Out for now. It’s been fun and I’ll lurk as often as I can.
-Jay K.
@General Tits Von Chodehoffen (152): just because you want cheerleading to be a sport
I’m not arguing for the case of cheerleading being a sport (though I happen to think a good argument can be made that it is, in certain situations). I’m disputing your and others’ contention that a “sport” *has to be* a competition with a clear-cut and non judge-based determination of winner and loser. That’s factually incorrect, it’s not just my opinion.
@Jay K (155): Congarats on the job, Jay K–Hope it works out well, because as you already know, it’s a *****er trying to find another one.
What about midget tossing? That endangers not only the tosser, but the midget as well.
@junky (14): I want to try bunjee jumping before I die. After that, maybe I will be brave enough to try skydiving.
31 ilovebevo:
People say the same things about figure skating, but it’s not only very athletic, it’s dangerous as well.
Imagine sliding around on the slippery, unforgiving ice with sharp blades strapped to your feet, with other skaters barreling down the ice at full speed, their blades hoisted in the air and coming at your face, NOT TO MENTION throwing yourself into the air and landing (or not!) on the edge of an eighth of an inch of steel! And I won’t even mention how dangerous pairs skating is!
God, it’s fun.
I always wanted to try #3, High Altitude Climbing. But I don’t think I will be able to in this incarnation.
Maybe in the next one. Everest isn’t going anywhere.
All those people here saying they want to try bunjee jumping or base jumping or whatever before they die, please be careful what you wish for…
For me sport is competition and there should be a clear winner. Hence, bull running shouldn’t count. There are no winners declared in bull running. In fact, all cruelty to animals in the name of sport should be stopped. I’m talking to you bullfighters and rodeo jockeys.
@ Randy Newman (158): “What about midget tossing? That endangers not only the tosser, but the midget as well.”
It rather depends on what definition of the word “tosser” you use!
@ Travis
So now apparently driving safe, or in your opinion, “driving like a girl” makes women….what, bad drivers? First you say women aren’t good drivers, than you say that they are, but you are comparing them to men who drive professionally on racetracks? How can you compare such things? Please stick to what you were originally trying to prove.
But since you did admit that women are better drivers, than thank you, i’ll take the compliment.
When I used to hang out with skydivers in the early 70′s, some of my acquaintances were starting to base jump, only they’d do it at night because it was illegal! I saw many results of Nature trying to better the species by getting rid of the ones with the least common sense.
Big wave surfing. If I had a sense of balance I would do it. What a clip.
Just a couple thought to all people thinking about cave diving… First of all, you need to have the specialized cave diving certification from PADI before being allowed into caves (at least in tourist locations). The reason being that you do not use the regular tank and equipment… The tank actually goes on your belly (not your back) because it is the only way to avoid hitting ceilings, etc. Not to mention (as someone said above) that there are times when you have to take the tank off and push it in front of you.
SCUBA diving in general is a pretty dangerous activity in and of itself (although one of the greatest ever invented IMO) but when you add extreme conditions like caves, ice, etc, the dangers multiply.
The most I´ve ever done is caverns including a few tight fits and complete darkness but always relatively close to an exit. It was one of the best experiences of my life and I am definately going to get the cave certification next time i get a chance!
Back Yard Wrestling
To the people who commented on rugby, it is not increadibly dangerous, it is beyond that it is utterly insane. There is only one sport I know more dangerous and thats Shinty, now thats for confirmed dyed in the wool headbangers.
Rugby for 20+ year, judo, karate, skydiving (never based jumped) and shinty 1 time. Seriously you would be better of just crashing a motorbike into a wall. Hurling the Irish equivalant is no better. Aussie rules looks fun.
Add roller derby to that list! I’m sitting here on my donut pillow (broken tailbone) hopped up on Darvocet as we speak!
OMFG WTF? WHAT THE *****? Some people on here are saying that Rugby is hell dangerous? M Mac: You think its beyond incredibly dangerous and you think it’s insane? WTF? I don’t know what Rugby you are playing mate but it’s not real Rugby. Just because it appears to be rough and tumble and everyone playing is big and strong, doesn’t make it dangerous. I’m from Australia, I think I would know… Not to mention, you think it’s the 2nd most dangerous sport of all time? Rugby is just a competitive sport and it’s played on prime-time television constantly. It is a very, very popular world-wide sport with international teams. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t put the “all time 2nd most dangerous sport” on at 8:00 PM. And you say this after playing for 20 years+? I think you are playing some new breed of Rugby, mate.
Jesus, when there are more injuries in Cheerleading than Grid Iron and Basketball (the actual sports), it really makes you wonder doesn’t it. BIMBOS. Should not be included on this list.
@someone (171): Thank you! Finally, the voice of reason!
My daughter plays rugby. She’s been playing on her team, in her league, for almost 10 years in a front row position (hooker). Although she is only 5’4″ and her team mates are relatively small for rugby players, they have just completed another season of not being scored against wins.
Sure, I’ll grant the scrapes, the bruises, the occasional concussions, but every game has those same risks. Drat! My son broke his elbow sliding down a snow covered hillslope on a sled…of course snow is a novelty so he had no idea how to act or react.
Rugby is not dangerous, and I’m glad to have a partner in saying so, someone!
segues: Yeah I agree. How can anyone think Rugby is dangerous? Good on your daughter and her team, thats a pretty good achievement. The thing is, I played Rugby all through primary school with real rugby players and it was tackle and it was great fun. People rarely got hurt even though it was quite rough. Teachers don’t let us go B.A.S.E Jumping though do they? Thats one of the way I look at it.
@someone (174): Thank you! But I do take issue with one statement you made: that you played “with real rugby players and it was tackle”.
My daughter’s team are real rugby players, they play in a real league which plays against teams in four states (in the U.S.) that I am aware of, it could be more. They do play tackle and it is just as rough and tumble as the mens game, just size it down.
I’m sure you didn’t mean it in a derogatory fashion, I just wanted the general public to be sure that her game wasn’t some sissified version of rugby; hence my support of it’s not being a particularly dangerous game.
Segue: Woah, woah, woah, back it up a bit, haha, I wasn’t refering to your daughters Rugby team lol I know that they play tackle and it’s real Rugby.
I was just telling you what I think about other people lol. Like “M Mac” who thinks it’s the 2nd most dangerous sport he’s ever played. Trust me, the general public over here in Oz knows that womens Rugby is just as real as the mens Rugby. This game is everywhere.
The only difference is that men get all the sponsors and TV coverage and the women do it for the fun and the sportsmanship. Not really fair but I’m sure your daughter doesn’t mind. What kind of Rugby is it? Union or League? Or is there another name for it there?
none of these are real sports so gay list
@ segues
Hahahaha, just as rough and tumbe as guys. No way, guys hit harder, have one of your daughters play in man’s game see how many hits they can take and that goes for any sport, men are that much more superior, women sport=joke
@ “MansGame*****”: Shut the ***** up. Men do get hit harder, but they are men. Men don’t just hit harder but the are more resilient to damage aswell. Women hit softer but it’s easier to get hurt.
Don’t be so *****ist.