From prohibition to books, no matter how much we like to think we live in a free society, there is always something being banned. While many of these things don’t affect us all, many of them do. Furthermore, the whole concept of a minority (politicians) banning things for the majority is repugnant. This is a list of ten things recently banned, which led to controversy.
Food companies favor trans fats because it allows their products to stay fresh on the shelves longer and it is also made from less expensive oils keeping production costs down. The main concern with trans fats is the body is unable to break down trans fatty acids causing them to build up triggering high cholesterol and in some cases heart disease. In 2003 Denmark became the first country to ban foods containing large amounts of trans fats. Under this ban no more than two per cent of the fats and oils in any food product can contain trans fats. This effectively limits people’s trans fat intake to less than one gram per day. Switzerland followed with a similar ban in 2008.
Interesting Fact: The Center for Science in the Public Interest sued KFC over its use of trans fats in their fried foods. KFC then reviewed alternative oil options saying “there are a number of factors to consider including maintaining KFC’s unique taste and flavor of Colonel Sanders’ Original Recipe”. In 2006, KFC announced that it will replace the partially hydrogenated soybean oil it currently uses with a zero-trans-fat low linoleic soybean oil in all restaurants although its biscuits will still contain trans-fats.
In 2004 the Canadian Health Minister announced the Government’s immediate ban on baby walkers. Between 1990 and 2002, the ministry said, there were 1,935 reports of infants being injured using the walkers. It was determined that young children “do not have the necessary skills, reflexes or cognitive abilities to safely make use of the product”. The most common accident occurs when babies fall down stairs. The ban prohibits retailers from selling, advertising or importing baby walkers. Canada is the only country so far to ban Baby Walkers.
Interesting Fact: Many parents believe that baby walkers teach a child to walk faster; however, studies suggest that it is not true, and they may actually delay walking by two to three weeks.
Because the compact fluorescent (CFL) lasts five years longer and uses about 75 percent less energy it has prompted many countries to enact laws to phase out incandescent light bulbs. Australia passed a law in 2007 that will make it one of the first countries to ban the incandescent light bulbs outright in 2010. Cuba exchanged all incandescent light bulbs for CFLs, and banned the sale and import of them in 2005. The EU agreed to a phase out incandescent light bulbs by 2012. California recently passed a bill that will phase out the bulbs by 2018. New Zealand’s previous government passed legislation to ban the bulbs but the newly elected government threw the ban out due to the outcry the ban caused.
Interesting Fact: CFLs, like all fluorescent lamps, contain small amounts of mercury as vapor inside the glass tubing, averaging 4.0 mg per bulb. A broken compact fluorescent lamp will release its mercury content. This means that safe cleanup and disposing of broken compact fluorescent lamps will differ from incandescent bulbs.
Chewing gum was banned in Singapore in 1992 and was revised in 2004. Incorrect disposal of chewing gum on chairs, tables, floors and on the door sensors of the new metro system led to the ban. Regulations also did not make any provisions for personal use of quantities to be brought into Singapore. Therefore, bringing chewing gum into Singapore, even in small quantities was prohibited. In 2004 the Singapore Government recognized the proven health benefits of certain gums such as sugar-free gum that contains calcium lactate to strengthen tooth enamel. Medical gum was then allowed provided it was sold by a dentist or pharmacist who must take down the names of the buyers. Singapore is the only country with a chewing gum ban.
Interesting Fact: The Chicago-based Wm. Wrigley Jr. Company enlisted the help of a Washington, D.C lobbyist and the chairman of the U.S. House Ways and Means Subcommittee on Trade, to get chewing gum on the agenda of the United States-Singapore Free Trade Agreement. This caused the 2004 revised ban allowing the medical improvement type gum.
In 2005 India became the first country to ban smoking and tobacco on-screen prohibiting all scenes showing the consumption of all tobacco products in movies and television programs. Whenever an actor smokes or consumes a tobacco product on screen, television channels must blur the scene. Films that already contain such scenes must run a scroll at the bottom of the screen, warning of the dangers of tobacco use.
Interesting Fact: Earlier this year the Delhi High Court overturned the Indian federal ban on performers smoking in films saying it is a reality of life and any censorship on its depiction would violate creative artists’ fundamental right to freedom of speech and expression.
Somewhere between 500 billion and a trillion plastic bags are consumed worldwide each year. In 2002 Bangladesh became the first country to ban plastic bags outright after discovering the bags blocked drains and was one of the main causes of the devastating floods of 1988 and 1998. Another problem with plastic bags is they do not biodegrade in landfills and pose a danger to many marine mammals. Thin plastic bags are now banned in South Africa and thicker ones are taxed. Similar laws exist in many other countries. Australia and the United Kingdom are also considering bans. In the United States the cities of San Francisco and Oakland have banned plastic shopping bags completely and promote reusable and compostable sacks.
Interesting Fact: According to one statistics choosing paper or plastic may just involve choosing which resource to consume. According to the Natural Resources Defense Council, the plastic bags used annually in the United States require about 12 million barrels of oil to produce. Paper bags require about 14 million trees. In a landfill, plastic bags take up less space than paper.
The move to ban super skinny or size-zero models came in 2006 after the death of 22-year-old model Luisel Ramos (shown on the right) who died of a heart attack moments after stepping off the catwalk. Ramos apparently was eating nothing but green leaves and diet coke for three months. Reports said she’d been told by her modeling agency that she would have a big future if she would loose a lot of weight. Stylists signed a joint declaration with the Italian government stating that, all models in shows must have a body mass index of 18 and above and must be “full bodied and healthy.” Madrid’s annual fashion show also banned models with a body mass index of less than 18 and there are calls for similar restrictions at London fashion shows.
Interesting Fact: In early 2007, Luisel’s 18-year-old sister Eliana Ramos, also a model (shown on the left) also died of an apparent heart attack believed to be related to malnutrition.
This is the most recent ban on the list and gained momentum after members of the Bolivian wing of an animal rights group went undercover. They revealed that animals in circuses are confined to cages without room for them to move around and forced to stay crammed in cages for the majority of their lives. The Bolivian Senate agreed to the ban and President Morales signed it into law in July 2009. There are similar bans on animal use in circuses in Austria, Costa Rica, Finland and Denmark where it is prohibited to use certain species of wild animals. Bolivia is the first and only country to ban both wild and domestic animals from traveling circus.
Interesting Fact: The recent attention given to animal cruelty in circuses has prompted Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus to release a fact sheet on how their animals are treated. You can read the fact sheet here.
Everyone is familiar with the recent smoking regulations that have affected smokers all over the world. In 2004 Ireland became the first country to prohibit smoking in all indoor workplaces including restaurants and bars. In 2008 a small mountainous kingdom between India and China called Bhutan was the first to ban smoking and tobacco sales outright. Authorities celebrated the ban by igniting a bonfire of cigarettes in the capital city and hanging banners across the main thoroughfare urging people to kick the habit. Violators in Bhutan are fined $232 (more than two months’ salary) The Ban on tobacco has caused an increase in the illegal trade of tobacco products to Bhutan. No other country so far has banned smoking and tobacco outright.
Interesting Fact: The first modern, nationwide tobacco ban was imposed by the Nazi Party. Smoking was prohibited in every German university, post office, military hospital, and Nazi Party office. The Institute for Tobacco Hazards Research was created in 1941 under orders from Adolf Hitler. Major anti-tobacco campaigns were widely broadcast by the Nazis until the end of the regime in 1945.
Sweden was the first country to ban parental spanking back in 1979. It took many years before another country would follow but now a total of 24 countries have passed similar laws. The most recent countries are Venezuela, Uruguay, Portugal, Spain and New Zealand in 2007 (though a referendum is being held to determine whether the anti-smacking bill should be repealed this year since the change of government) and Costa Rica and Republic of Moldova in 2008. There have been many studies done on the results of the Sweden spanking ban. Some studies suggest it has reduced child abuse in the country to almost zero. Other studies show Sweden with a lower rate of child deaths due to abuse than 20 out of 27 developed countries. Another recent report by Sweden suggested that the spanking ban has made little change in problematic forms of physical punishment.
Interesting Fact: In the United States (In all 50 states) it is legal for parents to spank or paddle their children. In 23 states corporal punishment is still legal in public schools. Canada bans corporal punishment for children under two and over twelve years of age, as well as the use of any objects such as a paddle.
@archiealt(83)
We will see you change your mind when you have kids. Otherwise, let us all know when you get your psychology degree. Peace!
@sammy (41): that’s a good one. no one wants to see your butt hanging out of your pants
“green leaves and diet coke “?
Howbout the more popular diet of “cigerettes and cocaine”?
Now there’s a model of excellence!
You know what should be banned? Cops with tasers.
@Realist (119): really? that’s interesting. because i think the red ink thing is stupid and im all for a ban on spanking. Spanking your children just shows that the only way you’ve taught your kids to communicate is through physical pain. which is clearly not a good thing.
@123. “just shows that the only way you’ve taught your kids to communicate is through physical pain.”
Oh. Of course. Clearly.
@callie19 (58): LOL-thanks for the little quiz. I went through almost every dog before I found the pit. My friend has a pit bull, and she is great. A very friendly, lovable pooch. I dog sit for her when they are out of town, and the only problem I have is trying to get my half of the bed.
When you have problems with a dog, it is people problems. Bred specific bans make no sense. People who raise dogs to fight and be aggressive should be put in jail.
Cool list. I just got thru listening to a story on NPR about a possible ban on e-cigarettes. I had never even heard of them.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111578997
Loved the list, makes you realize that we’re not as free as we’d like to think.
The only thing I’ll put my 2 cents in on is the smoking ban (and yes, I am a smoker) I think it is a right, and not a privilege. The Government allows it to be grown, allows it to be sold, and collects an assload of tax dollars on it. No one seems to realize that if they ban it totally, they lose all that revenue and they won’t just let it go, they will simply start in on something else.
Again though, great list.
@ Mark(40): Dingos are a mixed bag. Yes, they are predators, but they are naturally shy of humans. As far as I know, the biggest problems come from hybrid dingos/dogs, which tend to be larger and less shy of humans. Even so, domestic dogs such as pit bulls and rottweilers (?spelling) cause more attacks, injuries and deaths simply because they interact with humans (and vice versa) more regularly. Dingo attacks are centred on tourist areas like Fraser Island and Uluru/Ayers Rock. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo#Attacks_on_humans (with the usually apology for relying on wikipedia as a convenient but lazy source)
I find the spanking ban completely unnecessary. Everytime i walk in the street i see a spoiled mass of children dragging their parents to toy or candy shops, crying if their “needs” aren’t met. What do the parents do? They smile and say no, while their precious child makes a scene that would embarass anyone with half a brain.
Personally, i was the calmest of my mother’s sons and never really got smacked in the cheeck or in the butt, but my older brother was something you can only describe as being a crazy mother*****er who disobeyed every order he was given while showing you “the finger”. In the end, my mother had to give him some smacks to put him in place. Nowadays, he’s the perfect citizen who had the best grades in his class.
Child abuse is unjustifiable. So is overreacting. The argument “how can you tach them violence is bad if you spank them?” is so flawed it doesn’t even deserve an answer – besides this one, ofc
sorry, but i didn’t read all the comments…because i was too excited to share something…
i am living proof that corporal punishment & spankings don’t work. they had very little effect on me correcting my behavior for whatever offense warranted said spankings.
the threat of spankings after years of spankings was no deterrent to mischief, naughtiness, & back talking my parents.
my parents became alcoholics when i was 8 years old and the spanking blatantly advanced to beatings, since i would not cry out during a spanking. often times, i would laugh, which only infuriated them more & hence lead to worse beatings.
by the time i was 14, my mother would spank with a leather belt across the back of my thighs. sometimes she’d miss and crack me with the buckle. ever see welts from a metal belt buckle? not *****y.
i have the physical scars & police records to prove it. nothing like knowing there is a picture of you in some police record room in Illinois with irish sunglasses…
my mother even strangle dme once with the sweater i was wearing,. when the police took me to the hospital, the staff incorrectly put me on suicide watch, because the marks on my throat where consistent with those of a self-hanging. thankfully, the officer who brought me in told them the truth. i still have a bit of a scar running across my neck…
but all purging aside, i’m sure that for certain children spanking will work as a deterrent to future behaviors. for me, it was not. if anything, it only made me devious & perfected my lying skills.
what of the corporal punishment in school? it gained me notoriety as the girl who talked out of turn & could take 20 licks with the paddle & not even flinch…made me a bit of a schoolyard hero, i must say. actually, i think it made me a bit of a bossy bully.
the craziest outcome of all that childhood paddling? i’m into S&M and i LOVE being spanked with belts in the bedroom.
no lie.
rtr
@illbegood (127): I’ll put my 2 cents in on is the smoking ban (and yes, I am a smoker) I think it is a right, and not a privilege.
I think you are referring to my post, as I first made this remark. To clarify, yes you (currently) have the right to smoke tobacco. The privilege factor is in where you would be allowed to do it. IMO you do NOT have the right to do it anywhere you please, and I support governing laws to that effect.
The Government allows it to be grown, allows it to be sold, and collects an assload of tax dollars on it. No one seems to realize that if they ban it totally, they lose all that revenue
And that’s why it is not under consideration to be totally banned (talking in the U.S. here). There is definitely a double-standard being applied when it comes to banning other proven dangerous carcinogens but not tobacco sales and use. Having said this, note that I am not advocating the outright ban of tobacco products. I don’t really care if you want to increase the risk of killing yourself via its use, just don’t introduce that risk to me.
@oouchan (39):
let me tell you that pit bulls & pit bull mixes have been banned to be owned, sold, transfered, or even driven throiugh Maimi Dade County since 1989.
& guess what? nothing has resulted form it but a bunch of dead dogs, veterinarians who lie, and good people who get in trouble with the law!
just on the news tonight a mail carrier was bitten by a pit bull. in Miami. so what will happen? doggie goes to animal control, is quarantined for 10 days, then destroyed. pays with it’s life for it’s owners ignorance.
animal control out here is so inundated & ignorant, they call a white boxer a pit bull, euthanised a bull terrier because they thought it was a pit bull & it was a CHAMPION SHOW DOG, & yet now the criminal element that favors pit bulls is now acquiring far more dangerous dogs, such as Cane Corsos, African Boerbuls, & Rottweilers.
Breed Specific Legislation doesn’t work. Even an Akita or Schnauzer can inflict horrific wounds on a person. and guess what? recently, the Dachshund was proclaimed the most aggressive dog! yes! based on human attacks!
as we say here in Florida, “Ban the DEED, not the BREED!”
there just simply has to be a better way to regulate WHOM gets the dogs, not the dogs themselves. because, trust me, as a veterinary technician & dog trainer, i would rather work on 5 dominance aggressive pit bulls than 1 fear aggressive dachshund!
rtr
here’s a more reliable source for the evil doxies…
http://fortheloveofthedogblog.com/news-updates/the-most-aggressive-dog-breeds-dachshund-1
rtr
@ringtailroxy (130):
That was a very unique post because it took me through so many emotions. Anger, disgust, sadness, surprise and titillation all in one comment.
I remember when I went to Singapore back in 2003 and 2005, while I was in the Marines, they mentioned something about gum. I didn’t think it was banned but I remember them saying at least don’t spit your gum or spit at all.
They also told us to never do that in Okinawa as well but we seen the locals do it all the time.
What was funny about Singapore is that in one bar we went to had, what looked like a menu in the middle of the table, was a list of punishments for different drug offenses. Either possession or use. Their punishments were crazy. 1st time offense for ***** a certain amount of drugs is death.
They don’t play games there.
From Wikipedia:
“Anyone caught with more than or equal to 15 g (0.5 ounces) of heroin, 28 g (1 ounce) of morphine or 480 g (17 ounces) of ***** faces mandatory capital punishment, as they are deemed to be ***** in these substances. The stated quantities are the net weight of the substances after they have been isolated by laboratory *****ysis. Between 1991 and 2004, 400 people were hanged in Singapore, mostly for drug *****, the highest per-capita execution rate in the world.”
What no mention of Russias ban on emo clothing or music in public places!?
How about banning of Facebook and Myspace at work? Just joking. I don’t care actually and don’t use them at work anyway but the U.S. Government has already banned them from work computers for civil and military personal. Can’t even check Yahoo/Hotmail emails. I guess its a security threat.
It’s only a matter of time before they ban List Verse.
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@mom424 (45):
I’m 17 and my parents have never laid a finger on me. I have got top grades and never caused a more than your normal amount of school child trouble. Do you know how they achieved this? Not through acts of psychical violence but through communicating with me, reasoning and explaining. I do as I’m asked and respect people because I’ve been bought up with morals and manners – not any forms of violence.
I don’t know how you can really justify your actions. Perhaps if you were more creative with your thoughts you may be able to think up a more affective way to punish your child rather than to inflict obvious pain and humiliation on him.
From my perspective the people in my town which are causing the fights, stealing and generally making it an unpleasant place to be are the one’s who have been hit as children, subjected to similar things as your son. I had friends like this, they end up scared which in turn makes them angry and causes a complete lack of respect for authority. You can’t teach someone that violence is wrong and then go ahead and use it, how confusing is that!
This is just purely my opinion and I am all for the smacking ban. If my dad/mum had hit me as a child (especially with something like a belt!) I can guarantee you I would’ve been out my front door like a shot when I turned 16.
@maggot (132) Yes, that is what I am talking about. However (again, talking here in the States) I think the ban in certain establishments is also wrong. If YOU own a bar, restaurant, etc. and you want it to be non smoking, that is your right, but on the other hand, if you want to allow smoking as well, again, that should be your right. Just us our right to disagree here, no animosity, no grudge, no name calling (despite your name lol)
@ringtailroxy (134):
Thanks for the interesting link. I’m still surprised that Dachshunds are at #1 I have a Miniature Dachshund and never had any problems with him but my vet said the only time she has been bitten really badly it was by a Dachshund. The only problem I have is teaching him not to pee in the house. I know he knows to go outside. It seems like he does it fore spite.
If tobacco use was discovered or invented today, I’m pretty sure it would be banned all over the world, due to the severe addiction and health hazards it causes. It would probably be right up there with cocain and heroin as one of the most dangerous drugs. I, for one, would welcome a global ban on tobacco, as addiction to the vile stuff has ruined my lungs and my general health. If selling tobacco was illegal, it would be easier for me to quit, I’m sure.
About circus animals: In Sweden, only wild animals (like tigers, snakes, sea-lions, african elephants) are banned from performing in the circus; domestic animals (like horses, dogs, donkeys and indian elephants) are still allowed to entertain the children. Also, the living quarters of the circus animals are regularly inspected by a government official.
Even though I am against the spanking bans, I must say as an afterthought that it depends on the personality of the child. My daughter responds well to a simple spank every now and again. My son, however, responds better to having privileges and possessions taken away from him.
@dbrownl (1): yeah that law was passed in pictou county nova sctia my parents live there
@Swede (142):
Hi Swede, just curious: Why are african elephants banned and indian elephants not banned? Are they considered domestic?
i think the not in favor of the spanking ban, but that doesnt mean i approve either. i know bit confusing. i see nothing wrong with tapping a kid on the fingers or on the butt if they do something wrong, BUT only if timeout, and any other form of dicipline has been tried and didnt work, and even then done sparingly. also i belive on or two taps are sufficient and key word here is taps not slaps or whatever. its not really the hitting that is the punishment here its more of a pride thing. kids do learn not to do bad things if they think they will be punished. I dont think
belts or any other objects should be used as this is abuse! excessive force should never be used, in other words, if it hurts you or stings your hand, or leaves a mark or welt in anyway, then u r hitting way to hard! now as a child i can count on one hand how many times my parents resorted to spanking, i would say an average of once every 5 years, and to be frank i deserved it each time. however there are many people who unneccesarily hit their children for very minor things.this is not acceptable. i understand that government is trying to protect kids from abuse but theres a huge step between discipline and abuse. parents do have the right to discipline their children as they see fit and i dont think the gov has the right to intervine, as long as the child is not in any danger and that disipline is not extreme. now on the other side of this is that gov is protecting kids from physical abuse but what about emotional? all too often i see parents who dont hit their kids cos “its abuse” but then scream their heads off at them, cursing and swearing at them, or calling them names, how is that any better?
#6: Can’t possibly be true, or at least that controversial. There have been a number of Indian films since 2005 which shows smoking without any warning, e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53D_Qs1C6k4 (2007) &
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp697cTAIMU (2006) which includes this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDHke6gJWEg
NB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beedi
my opinon on transfats is tthat people should have the right to choose whether they want to eat them or not. the government has NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to mandate whether or not i can have transfats in my dinner. i personally prefer flavor in my food so i am for transfats. its pretty bad when you have to go to mexico just to get decent freh fries these days.
Weighing on the spanking matter.
1. Children know the difference between a smack and violence. I moved to smack my 3 yr old, he dodged and I ended up connecting just above his knee. He burst into tears and yelled “SMACK MUMMY! NO HITTING!” Even at 3, he knows the difference.
2. I was spanked as a kid. My father still tells me that his proudest moment was when I was 7 and got busted doing something (and busted badly, there was no wriggle room to talk my way out of it) and while he’s yelling at me, I held my hand for a smack. Why was he proud? Because he knew he had taught me that actions have consequences and that I was prepared to face those consequences.
Are there other ways he could have done it? Not for me. Take anything you like away from me, I’d find something to amuse myself with happy. Take my toys away, I read. Take my books away, I drew. Send me to the laundry where all I couldn’t get to anything that I could play with? I’d lay on a pile of washing and daydream.
My younger brother on the other hand, was also spanked and it had no effect on him whatsoever. Thinking back, I think the ‘go to the laundry’ punishment came into being because he didn’t respond to spanking, being sent to his room, banned from toys/tv/other fun stuff.
@this is me (148): the government has NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to mandate whether or not i can have transfats in my dinner.
“the government” is not doing that. What they are mandating is the amount of allowable transfats in food products being sold to consumers. Just as they would mandate limits or bans on other ingredients that are deemed unsafe for human consumption (hello Red Dye #2). But if you want to drink a gallon of transfat oil with your dinner, no one is stopping you.
@GTT (112):
I think it depends on what type of modelling the plus sizer is doing.
Whitney Thompson: size 8-10
Natalie Laughlin: size 12
…not as plus-sized as one would expect. These are actually well within the healthy range.
@callie19 (108): when I put my hand in her mouth it just kind of hangs out there
Haha, not with my dog (he has long since been adopted, but I still call him “my dog”). He’d use his tongue to push my hand out and make a face as if he just tasted bad milk. I miss him lots but at least he went to a great home. Of all the dogs that stayed with me at one point or other, the pit mix was probably the gentlest of them all (perhaps ‘sissy bear’ may be more appropriate? He hid under my bed whenever it thundered).
@Blogball (141): The only problem I have is teaching him not to pee in the house. I know he knows to go outside. It seems like he does it fore spite.
I had one smart-ass dog who peed on my boots. When he was done, I swear he looked at me with a triumphant gleam in his eyes. I later showed him who was boss by getting him neutered. (actually, spay & neuter is policy for all dogs the foster program took in.)
Uh-oh… Looks like someone is trying to mark his territory…
@gabi319 (151): I had one smart-ass dog who peed on my boots…I later showed him who was boss by getting him neutered.
Note to self: do NOT pee on gabi’s boots.
I hope they ban everything.
It’s just more laws for me to break.
Gabi, he has already had that done. Any suggestions on what else I can take away from him?
What about MMA?
I’m a smoker (it’s disgusting, I know), but I support smoking bans in indoor public areas, restaurants, pubs, within 15 feet of a building entrance, near schools and playgrounds and in vehicles where small children are present. Although I don’t believe that the sale of tobacco should be prohibited (personal freedoms and all that), I’m perfectly okay with its use being regulated. If we’re going to smoke, we can do it outside or in our own homes. It’s MY habit — why should everyone else have to deal with it?
Spanking is okay so long as it’s done with an open palm, isn’t hard enough to cause lasting pain, injury or bruising/welts, and is only a last-resort punishment.
Ex smoker and against all bans on it….
As for the spanking I can remember sitting with my 4 yr old daughter at a Downtown bus stop and she was acting up (and that is putting it politly) She got a swift smack on the ass for it! So lite was the smack that i dont think she felt it. But was more scared by the fact I did that. Now to the point of all this! As soon as I did this a lady about 20 years younger the god stepped forward and reemed me out for spanking my kid and that we do not do that here in Canada! I looked at her and and told her that at least it was my hand! Not like in her day when they had the kid go out back and get there own switch for punishment! She said “that was different” That’s all she said “that was different” Yes it was different! Her kids have grown up respectfull and and well mannered(OK that is a assumption) My 14 yr old kid…..sheesh.New topic there (love her to death none the less!)
Like it or not, skinny models are HOT!!!
@Blogball (154): Any suggestions on what else I can take away from him?
Reduce the size of his indoor territory, don’t give him free run of the entire house. Keep him in your sight at all times (easier with the smaller area, such as just your main TV-room area or wherever you hang out) and take him outside to do his business more often, whether he wants to or not. In other words, don’t wait for him to tell you he has to go out (if he does tell you, give praise). Once outside, if/when he goes, give tons of praise. If he doesn’t go, don’t give any feedback positive or negative. The idea is you are basically having to start over from scratch, to positive-reinforce the desired behavior. Always heavy praise for job well done. Once he reconnects, you can gradually expand his indoor space. Takes some work. Good luck.
In South Australia plastic bags are already banned.
it’s stupid.
oh-in case I didn’t make this abundantly clear, I am completely against any form of physical punishment to children. no spanking, no face-slapping, and no physical threats or gestures that could be construed as precluding a strike of any kind. it doesn’t correct behavior-just makes the kid smarter at hiding the evidence of such behavior.
remove privileges, remove favorite activities or toys, & i just about guarantee your little hellspawn will behave.
i know that i was the dutchess of deception. no phone privileges? no problem…i’d ask to go to my friends house to study & use hers.
not allowed to wear make-up to school? no problems…i just shoplift it & stash it in my locker.
no television for a month? that’s okay. once parents asleep upstairs, i’d watch t.v. without sound.
take away my library card & rip all my paperback books to shreds? no problem. i was the one who took your family bible & threw it on the fireplace, not your abusive, daughter-touching, alcoholic husband, even though you blamed him & he actually thought he did it.
trust you me, we forget how smart we where as children. it’s the only way kids get away with so much…we forget. some sort of defense mechanism.
rtr
p.s. yes, i am jealous of all of you whom have loving family relationships. you are very fortunate. hard as it may be to believe, there are thousands upon thousands of children & teens whom live in terror, push dresser drawers against their bedroom door at night, & never sleep soundly. it was years before i didn’t awaken screaming & swinging if someone tried to wake me.
On the whole…this list wasn’t that “controversial”…
blogball~
here is what i tell my clients (remember, i’m a dog trainer)
1.) make a daily doggie schedule & stick to it. it is much easier to train any dog on a predictable schedule. dogs thrive on routine.
the best reward of all is time with you. so use a crate, and if you take your pooch out to eliminate, and he doesn’t, then in the crate you go. after about 10 minutes, try again. but put leash on dog, walk dog outside to desired spot, and use a key word, such as “GO POTTY” or “HURRY UP”
2.) never allow your dog out of your sight. if you cannot physically be watching your dog, put it in it;s crate.
3.) use a crate properly. never use as a form of punishment. dogs do not desire to soil where they must rest or sleep.
4.) use crate daily. can’ watch doggie/ in crate you go. no big fanfare, simple. place dog in crate, close door, for first few days, NO PAPER, BLANKIES, or TOYS. (dogs will attempt to cover messes with these items)
5.) purchase a short leash. most PetSmarts sell 2 foot leads. when doggie is out of crate, place your foot thru the loop of leash, have leash on dog collar, & viola! instant bonding experience…where you go, dog goes. no accidents gonna happen with you there!
6.) never ever ever punish a dog after you find a mess. rubbing their nose in it only reinforces that yes, it is feces, and it is their feces. they know that.
if you catch your dog in the act, make a loud noise, such as clapping your hand or making a verbal sound of displeasure,. (do not say No) immediately take do goutside, take dog to same exact place of elimination every time, & lots of praise when dog eliminates outside. then clean up the mess inside with an odor eliminator, such as Nature’s Miracle.
lastly, avoid confusing doggie. no pee pee pads, newspaper, or anything indoors. you can’t say “DON”T GO IN THE HOUSE! but here, on this pee pee pad, is okay”
consitency, reward, & crating will help you reach your goal.
for every accident, you put yourself behind in training by 4-7 days.
2 weeks without an accident is not considered trained, a month minimum without even one accident can be your clue to allow more freedom in the house unattended while you are home.
hope this helps!
rtr
Beating your child with a belt? C’mon people!? What’s wrong with you? Man i get so *****ed whenever i hear ***** like this.. Like someone wrote above, it’s possible to assure the respect of your child without violence.. And if you can’t do that then you have no right to have children as you are obviously not fit to raise a child. All forms of violence (not just under your own roof) are failures in communication.
The worst thing with the ban of smoking in bars is that now it smells of urine and farts instead. I think i prefer the smell of smoke over that, and im not a smoker…
Looking forward to reactions
parental spanking and paddling outlawed? how else are you going to put your kids in place?
south australia has already banned plastic bags.
and so far everyone is very happy
The guy in number 1 looks like he’s enjoying it just that little bit too much…
its also illegal in australia to smoke in cars with kids in the bak but it not illegal for ylthe kids to be smokig WTF?
61 flgh: I believe there are many other ways to discipline a child, most have already been mentioned: Take away possesion, time-out ect.
My parents used a lot of time talking with us when we did sometime bad, they explaned why it was bad and why we should’t be doing it and that worked. I had a lot of respect for my parents, and a lot of love, so I really did not want to dissapoint them, I just felt awful when my dad said he was dissapointed in my.
Taking away priviliges also really worked on me, if I had misbehaived, I would’t be allowed to play with my friend after school for a week, for instance, that really made me think twice about acting out.
@jfrater (19):
I guess it more setting the boundary where a smack becomes more than a smack. I agree with you.
I went to playschool with a child who had fallen into a fire while in one of those baby walkers.Part of it got caught on the fireplace so it took even longer for his parents to get him out and he was left with horrific facial scars as a result. I wonder what happened to that guy.
Blogball:
In addition to the very sound advice Maggot and rtr gave… addressing just what’s already been done, I would remove whatever particular items he favors peeing on. Scrub down floors really really really well because if he can still tell what areas he designated as bathrooms, it’ll be that much harder to correct the behavior. And/or you can avoid giving him access to these places altogether when you minimize his living space.
@archiealt (75): Sorry for the late reply, busy day yesterday. And no, it doesn’t beget violence. I have 4 sons and only once or twice were any of ‘em involved in any sort of violence/fighting, and one of those times my son had no choice. He was being beat up and harassed by a couple of older boys every day on the way home from school; he’d had enough. They stopped bothering him after that.
My kids are not stupid – they absolutely know the difference between discipline and violence. Besides like I said, it’s a court of last resort. I’d like to know what you’d have done with the kid on the ice – let him drown?
@sof (92): Then you would have drowned under the ice in the river – you wouldn’t ever have to worry about discipline again.
Narm – again you would be dead under the ice with sof – there was no choice, he had to walk to school every day right past that ice covered river, and I had a ton of little kids (going to a different school btw) that prevented me from being free to walk him. You think it was an easy decision? That’s the difference between discipline and abuse….
@ringtailroxy (131): That’s abuse Roxy – and I’m so sorry you had to suffer it..even if it did make your ***** life less ho-hum than the rest of us. My kid got the belt once in his life – again like I said – because he was engaging in a behavior that had to be stopped immediately or he would die.
@ringtailroxy (163): @Maggot (159): @gabi319 (172):
I really appreciate the suggestions. I have tried some of these but not all. He is 8 years old so I will see if I can teach a middle age dog some new tricks. “Thanks again”
@88
I didn’t say plastic was as decomposable as paper, I said it was as recyclable. There’s quite a difference.
@mom424 (174): Say you were a smoker, wich I think you are. According to your logic, everytime you took a puff, your son could smack you with a belt, because he would be technically saving your life.
CFL bulbs are supposed to be disposed of properly, not just thrown out with the rest of the trash, because of the mercury content. This is almost never published. If you check with your local waste management company or landfill, I’ll bet they won’t accept items containing mercury. I’m afraid we are going to create problems for our future generations because of CFL bulbs, much like we did replacing paper bags with plastic ones. Even my local power company advertises and promotes the use of CFL bulbs!
@mom424 (174):
There is always a choice and an alterntive, and no I wouldn’t be under the ice, my parents would’ve spent the time to thoroughly eplain to me the dangers of a frozen river. If not and I ignored them, then they would most probably taken away something that I really loved – televiion, internet, video games, mobile – whatever anything that would’ve made the difference and caused me to think.
You don’t get respect out of fear, you get respect from reasoning and comunication. If your child turned round and hit you with a belt, I dont think you would be too pleased, so why treat your child like this?
I mean gosh, I wouldn’t even hit my naughty dog, let alone a small child. I have a ten year old brother btw, he is small, fragile and very sensitive. It would wreck him to be treated like that. All I want to do is protect him and I would never dream of psychically harming him.
I really think there is just no possible justification for hitting your little child with a belt. How do you think you made him feel?