The Bible is a source of inerrant truth to over a billion humans but with a book (or more literally a set of books) of this age, speculation arises as to the facts contained therein. This list looks at some of the historical mysteries and even some of the theological mysteries contained in the Bible. These are all topics which fascinate biblical scholars and laymen alike.
The mystery: Where is the Holy Grail?
According to Christian mythology, the Holy Grail was the dish, plate, or cup used by Jesus at the Last Supper, said to possess miraculous powers. The connection of Joseph of Arimathea with the Grail legend dates from the late 12th century in which Joseph receives the Grail from an apparition of Jesus and sends it with his followers to Great Britain. Belief in the Grail and interest in its potential whereabouts has never ceased. Ownership has been attributed to various groups (including the Knights Templar, probably because they were at the peak of their influence around the time that Grail stories started circulating. There are cups claimed to be the Grail in several churches, for instance the Saint Mary of Valencia Cathedral, which contains an artifact, the Holy Chalice (pictured above – note, only the top “cup” portion is original), supposedly taken by Saint Peter to Rome in the first century, and then to Huesca in Spain by Saint Lawrence in the 3rd century. The Valencia chalice does hold some merit as a contender for the true grail as it has been scientifically asserted to have been created between the 4th century BC and the first century AD in the Middle East. Other stories claim that the Grail is buried beneath Rosslyn Chapel or lies deep in the spring at Glastonbury Tor. Still other stories claim that a secret line of hereditary protectors keep the Grail, or that it was hidden by the Templars in Oak Island, Nova Scotia’s famous “Money Pit”.
The mystery: Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
The Ark of the Covenant is a container described in the Bible as containing the tablets of stone on which were inscribed the Ten Commandments as well as Aaron’s rod and manna. The ark was kept in Jerusalem until the Babylonians plundered and destroyed the temple. From then, the Ark entered the domain of legend as it vanished forever. Some of the theories for where it may be are: Intentional concealment by the priests under the Temple Mount; Intentional removal from Jerusalem in advance of the Babylonians; and Removal of the Ark by the Ethiopian prince Menelik I. Modern excavations near the Temple Mount in Jerusalem have found tunnels, but digging beneath the Temple Mount is heavily restricted. One of the most important Islamic shrines, the Dome of the Rock, sits in the location where the First Temple of Solomon is alleged to have stood. According to the Bible, King Solomon, when building the temple, had the Ark of the Covenant put on a platform which could be lowered down into a tunnel system if the Temple were ever overrun. This would make it a plausible location.
The mystery: Were they real cities and if so where are they?
For the sins of their inhabitants Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboim were destroyed by “brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven” (Genesis 19:24-25). In Christianity and Islam, their names have become synonymous with impenitent sin, and their fall with a proverbial manifestation of God’s wrath. The historical existence of Sodom and Gomorrah is still in dispute by archaeologists. The Bible indicates they were located near the Dead Sea. Possible candidates for Sodom or Gomorrah are the sites discovered or visited by Walter E. Rast and R. Thomas Schaub in 1973, including Bab edh-Dhra, which was originally excavated in 1965 by archaeologist Paul Lapp. Other possibilities also include Numeira, es-Safi, Feifeh and Khanazir, which were also visited by Schaub and Rast. All sites were located near the Dead Sea, with evidence of burning and traces of sulfur on many of the stones and a sudden stop of inhabitation towards the end of the Early Bronze Age.
The mystery: Where is the Garden of Eden?
While the majority of Biblical scholars and theologians consider that the story of the Garden of Eden is most likely not literal, some people do believe that the place existed in reality. Furthermore, the Bible gives directions to the location. This has led to many attempts to locate the garden. The creation story in Genesis relates the geographical location of both Eden and the garden to four rivers (Pishon, Gihon, Tigris, Euphrates), and three regions (Havilah, Assyria, and Kush). There are hypotheses that place Eden at the headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates (northern Mesopotamia), in Iraq (Mesopotamia), Africa, and the Persian Gulf. While the true location is a mystery, there is a particularly fascinating twist to this tale: Ethiopia is mentioned as being near or surrounding the Garden of Eden in Genesis 2:13 (“And the name of the second river is Gehon: the same is it that compasseth all the land of Ethiopia.”). Since 1974 Paleontologists have excavated six million years of life and conclude that Ethiopia is the scientific location of human origin, a scientifically true Garden of Eden.
The mystery: The Bible appears to contain coded messages; is this a coincidence?
The Bible code, also known as the Torah code, is a series of messages alleged to exist within the Bible text, that when decoded form words and phrases supposedly demonstrating foreknowledge and prophecy. The study and results from this cipher have been popularized by the book The Bible Code.
The primary method by which purportedly meaningful messages have been extracted is the Equidistant Letter Sequence (ELS). To obtain an ELS from a text, choose a starting point (in principle, any letter) and a skip number, also freely and possibly negative. Then, beginning at the starting point, select letters from the text at equal spacing as given by the skip number. For example, the bold letters in this sentence form an ELS. With a skip of -4, and ignoring the spaces and punctuation, the word SAFEST is spelled out backwards. Bible codes proponents usually use a Hebrew Bible text. The use and publication of “predictions” based on Bible codes has succeeded in bringing about popular awareness of the codes, most notably based on the work of journalist Michael Drosnin. Drosnin’s most famous prediction, in 1994, was the 1995 assassination of Israeli Prime Minister, Yitzhak Rabin, using a Bible code technique.
The mystery: What happened to the lost tribes?
The phrase Ten Lost Tribes of Israel refers to the ancient Tribes of Israel that disappeared from the Biblical account after the Kingdom of Israel was destroyed, enslaved and exiled by ancient Assyria. Many groups of Jews have doctrines concerning the continued hidden existence or future public return of these tribes. This is a subject that is partially based upon authenticated and documented historical fact, partially upon written religious tradition and partially upon speculation. There have been some bizarre claims about who may be descended from the lost tribes. Some claims include the Irish, Native Americans, British, and the Japanese. The Kaifeng Jews (pictured above) in China claim to be descended from one of the lost tribes.
The mystery: Who was the pharaoh of the Exodus?
The Pharaoh of the Exodus is the pharaoh (king) who ruled over ancient Egypt at the time of the Exodus. More precisely, it is the question of who this pharaoh might have been. The story of the enslavement of the Children of Israel in Egypt, the plagues by which God forces their release, and their subsequent escape from a pursuing army at the Crossing of the Red Sea, is told in the opening chapters of the Book of Exodus. The pharaoh of the story is not named – he is referred to simply as “pharaoh” – and the question of his identity has been the subject of much speculation among those who believe the Exodus to be a real event. The most commonly imagined figure in popular culture is Ramesses the Great, although there is no documentary or archaeological evidence that he had to deal with the Plagues of Egypt or anything similar or that he chased Hebrew slaves fleeing Egypt. There is also an account made by Merneptah, in the form of a poem from the so-called Israel Stele, which makes reference to the supposed utter destruction of Israel in a campaign prior to his 5th year in Canaan: “Israel has been wiped out…its seed is no more.” There is basically no evidence to strongly support the view of any specific Pharaoh as the one mentioned in Exodus.
The mystery: Where is Noah’s Ark?
From at least the time of Eusebius (c. 275 – 339 AD) to the present day, the search for the physical remains of Noah’s Ark has held a fascination for Christians, Jews and Muslims. Despite many rumours, claims of sightings and expeditions no scientific evidence of the ark has ever been found. The search for the ark has been called a “wild goose chase” by some archaeologists. Ark searchers have had little to guide them to the Ark beyond Genesis’ mention of the “mountains of Ararat”. By the middle of the 19th century, archaeologists had identified a 1st-millennium BC kingdom and region of Urartu, contemporaneous with the Assyrian empire and the early kingdoms of Judah and Israel, located in the mountains of present-day Armenia and eastern Turkey. Not until the 19th century was the region settled enough, and welcoming enough for Westerners, to make it possible for significant expeditions to search for the Ark. By the beginning of the 21st century, two main candidates for exploration had emerged: the so-called Ararat anomaly (pictured above) near the main summit of Ararat (an “anomaly” in that it shows on aerial and satellite images as a dark blemish on the snow and ice of the peak), and the separate site at Durupınar near Dogubayazit, 18 miles (29 km) south of the Greater Ararat summit. Here is an interesting article on the most recent discovery of petrified timber purported to be part of one of the walls of the boat.
The mystery: Who was the Beloved Disciple?
One of the biggest mysteries in biblical scholarship concerns the identity of “the disciple whom Jesus loved.” According to the Gospel of John, this was the disciple who leaned on Jesus during the Last Supper, and the only male disciple present at the crucifixion. In addition, John 21:24 implies that the entire Gospel of John is based on this disciple’s memories. Yet, oddly, it never gives his name. The other three gospels don’t give his name either. In fact they never even mention this “Beloved Disciple” (as he is often called). They also say nothing about any disciple leaning on Jesus during the Last Supper or witnessing the crucifixion. Their total silence on the matter only adds to the mystery. A number of scholars have argued that the Beloved Disciple was Lazarus, the brother of Mary and Martha of Bethany, and the man that Jesus raised from the dead. The reason for this is the fact that when the sisters summoned Jesus to help Lazarus, they said: “Lord, the one you love is sick.” Some modern theories even claim that Mary Magdalene was the Beloved Disciple – an idea which would certainly impress Dan Brown. [Source]
The mystery: Who wrote the Gospels?
The gospels are probably the most important part of the New Testament and until the 18th century their authorship was generally not regarded as a mystery. But as modern biblical scholars investigated the history of the four books, they began to question the fact that they were written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. There is much speculation (mostly based on the order of the writing of the books) that the gospels were written by people who know the apostles, but not by the apostles directly. This is a mystery that is unlikely to be solved unless a “master” source document for the common quotes in the gospels is discovered which would explain the anomalies which are spoken of in support of the non-apostolic author theories.
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As true catholic I believe that teachings of Cathol are inerrant
@Norm Patriquin (101): My problem with your assertion is that the protestant Bible (which I presume you are basing this on) has a number of books missing from it and the numbering of the psalms is different in various editions of the Bibles. That really renders your point completely useless.
apparently the holy grail wasn’t the only item at the last supper assumed to possess miraculous powers, biblical scholars concerned with the leftovers are now seeking the whereabouts of the last tupperware
@archiealt (61):
Go back to school? For what? Finding this list interesting? For making note that the Bible is debated, discussed, and researched by scholars? For pointing out that while atheists shout “prove it”, others shout “disprove it” with about the same results?
If you’re going to tell me to go back to school, tell me about what I should be educating myself. I never postulated belief in any of the items on this list. I didn’t actually declare an opinion about the list at all, other than to say it was interesting.
However, you did prove my point that the most arrogant people tend to be self important atheists who believe that they, and their kind, alone have the market cornered on The Truth.
But, just to throw a monkey wrench into your machinery. I don’t believe in God. I’m just someone interested in religions, philosophy, and the world around me to be open minded enough to explore other people’s beliefs and ideologies.
I don’t think it’s particularly sage or intelligent to puff out one’s chest and exclaim to be better than those who don’t believe as you do.
Thje Lost Tribes are Lost, thats why they are called the Lost Tribes, Duh….
Something that has interested me is that evolution does not give a solution to the question “how did life start?” only how it has progressed. So if I did believe in god and someone was trying to argue that there is no god by using evolution as their evidence, it would be perfectly logical to say god created life and then it evolved. Funny how atheists cling to evolution as the only way to dispute the existence of god. Luckily there are plenty of other reasons not to believe in god.
I wish everyone would just be open-minded and respectful and realize that everyone is going to believe differently, and while we can try to alter those beliefs, in mass, it won’t ever happen.
I believe what I believe because of personal experiences with myself and my family, and can easily see why both sides believe what they believe. Some people believe in some pretty bizarre things, but I would never dream of being so childish as to mock them for such a thing.
Everyone already knows that Christians can be ignorant, arrogant, close-minded, dogmatic, and pushy with what they believe.
What people also need to realize is that Atheists can, and do, behave in the exact same manner.
I believe that the bible is a mixture of allegory and historical fact, and to deny that it’s an incredible detailed and intricate piece of literature, even if you view it as a piece of fiction, is just plain foolish.
It seems a lot of Atheists are now adamant about oppressing different forms of belief and religion. In fact, I recently read a lengthy article about how believing in any form of God at all was detrimental to society.
Why though? This disgusts me to no end. How is it that people can seriously think that way? Where I live, here in the bible-belt south, there is a lot of ignorance, but a lot of good too. The churches around here do so much good to help the community, and have even helped my family in some tough times. This also goes against personal freedoms that we in the United States have based on our constitution. I think all too often people ignore the good and just point out the bad. That goes for atheists too.
I respect atheists. I don’t view them as the enemies, and have several atheists friends, all of whom are very respectful and smart. Most atheists are very intelligent people and a lack of faith in anything certainly doesn’t make them villainous. They don’t seem to understand why people believe in things like God and Jesus, and that’s a logical thing to question. Certainly, it’s pretty much impossible to have any proof on the matter. But if you’re curious about it, why not just ask politely “Why do you believe in God?”. Why does it have to be “How can anyone believe in this garbage”? There are people in this world that believe in God that are very intelligent and well-educated. Not everyone is dogmatic moron.
I can discuss anything with anyone, no matter how controversial it is. All I ask is that people be respectful and calm about things. There’s no need for aggression. It doesn’t help anything, and only makes both sides feel worse.
I wish we could all just discuss how interesting this list is instead of just acting so disrespectful.
@ Skiffo (127): Thanks for that comment.
@jfrater (111): I read somewhere that the term “virgin” in context for the times, didn’t mean someone who had not had ***** but referred to an unmarried woman. Not sure if it’s factual or not…
Well actually some atheists say they do know how life started-
There was something called primordial ooze emerging from a bit of frozen earth where the sun had heated the rock
and somehow (they don’t explain how this miracle happened)life came crawling up out of this ooze. I think he saw his shadow and went back into the ooze and came back out when it got warmer.I think his name was Henry.Anyway he went ahead and bought a coat and tie because Henry knew that in a couple of billion years he would evolve into being the head-waiter at a French restaurant.You can prove this for yourself. Next spring dig a hole and fill it with mud.After the sun has heated your mud a salamader or something will crawl out of the hole.But treat him well because in 2 billion years,he might be your boss.
Hi! I have also been visiting Listverse for a year now but this is my first time to comment. The list was great but I find the comments more entertaining.
By the way I am also a fan of your other website. (www.cogitz.com).
jfrater:
Sorry Jamie, but the “sea captain’s” got you on this one (the holy grail). The grail is NOT mentioned in the Bible. The chalice (cup) that Christ drank out of is mentioned. But the *grail* is never mentioned, and it has never been definitively established that the grail=the cup that Jesus used.
In point of fact, the Holy Grail was a fictional motif going back a long ways–but not as far back (to the best of our knowledge) to a time concurrent with the Bible. It is, rather, medieval in origin. But it *is* an entirely fictional motif (and has only been *connected* with the cup used by Christ, later on… and has at other times been associated with other items).
In fact, it’s been said to be a chalice (the interpretation best known to us) but also a dish, a bowl, or a cauldron. Other accounts and traditions have said that it was a gem of some kind, or the philosopher’s stone.
I quote here my favorite source, the non-pareil Cecil Adams: “The earliest mention we know of (the Grail) is in a retelling of the King Arthur legend called Le Conte du Graal, written in the last quarter of the 12th century by the French poet Chretien de Troyes…Chretien apparently died before he could finish the story–that was left to later writers, called “continuators,” who worked over a span of about 50 years. Their versions vary considerably in detail, most obviously with respect to what the Grail was, but on the whole they made the religious angle much more overt. Other writers during the same period wrote “histories” of the Grail that purported to trace its origin to the time of Christ. Scholars have long debated where the different elements of the tale came from; present appearances to the contrary, much of the story probably is of non-Christian origin.”
In short, the Grail is not only an invention of much later writers, if it draws upon any tradition or previous mythology, it draws upon pagan Celtic mythologies, not Christian.
Hey Archiealt. Lol my bad dude i wasnt givin you angry *****. Just jokin *****. Anyway hell yeah my list of vices is lengthy (i really love life) but trust that im actually a decent guy. Oh ya i mispell ***** all the time but no need to be insulting we cant all be gurus of perfection such as yourself. lol just kiddin again.
Still alls been fairly civil for a religous list.
Xenu is the one and only true god
@archiealt (61): well, it doesnt get much more narrow minded than this. just gotta tell you, u sound an awful lot like the religious idiots you are attacking. my point was valid, and to claim it isnt is utterly ridiculous. your lack of belief in God is based on lack of evidence. understandable. I will never be able to prove to u that God exists, becuz, truth be told, i will never obtain evidence that he exists. Darn, you got me there! But my belief in God is FAITH based, meaning you will under no circumstance ever be able to disprove the existence of God. I’m so sorry that you can’t hear logic from your high horse, but maybe you wont be so arrogant when you dismount and spend some time down here with us uneducated common folk. Boy, being humble sure is *****. You say you would accept any evidence of God’s existence, but short of the big guy himself jackslapping you, nothing would be enough to slip into that closed mind of yours. It’s the same with Christians who have closed minds. You present them with any evidence of hypocrisy, and they scream “blasphemy!” and condemn you to hell. Becuz of your eagerness to down anybody who believes, you are allowing God to have a strangle hold on you. Or, as far as you are concerned, the figment of God. In other words, your life is being ruled by an imaginary being. Hope that makes it all better. I think most organized religions are a sham, they are all full of hypocrisy and bigots. I am a man of God, not of religion. Yes, there IS a difference.
So in short, when it comes down to proving God’s existence, you are right, I never will. When it comes down to disproving God’s existence, you’re wrong, you never can. Not to me. Go ahead, make fun of me, do your worst, I’ve taken flak before. Rest assured I will in no way push any beliefs on you or anyone else, becuz I have no good reason to attempt such a futile feat. Each to his own.
@KatiesGoldenDust (79): Thanks! Glad you liked it.
@Eire (38): Wrong. Quite a bit read it in a literal sense. I personally believe this is wrong, dead wrong, and that it is metaphorical. I wish 95% read it that way. Unfortunately, these Literalists have the narrowest minds and the loudest mouths, with provides just a grand old stereotype of Christians being idiots and gives the arrogant atheists ammunition. If more people were more open, these comment arguments would be more along the lines of civilized debates, instead of both sides going “I’m right your wrong blahblahblah”, which is annoying as *****.
@Skiffo (127): we need more people like you.
the biggest mystery of the bible is why people believe it. But really, in todays society, it seems that religious people are just there to ***** off people who are . let’s face it: religion is irrelevent and quaint. I don;t understand why people get so uppity when someone comes along and says. “Look god doesn’t exist and here’s why” Isn’t better to know the truth, with evidense and logic provided? would you ignore evidence in a courtroom? “sure is there is overhwhelming evidence to put the accused in the room at the time of the rape and not to mention sperm, hair etc, but more likely, the devil put them there to trick us.”
And really, to anyone who believes in the biblical god, either Dinosaurs existed or god does.*
*no, there weren’t dinosaurs on the ark. Actually read the bible.
Look, I don’t have anything against religious people, but believing in talking snakes, ghosts, people turning into stone, people living 900 years plus, two of every animal on earth on one boat, people living in whales, people following stars to witness a virgin birth etc just seems idiotic.
Hooray for the (non-Orthodox) Jews, Quakers, and Unitarians who are amused by this argument. Not to mention Eastern religions and Muslims.
@ianz09 (136): Well said, but that brings up something important. What would have to happen to disprove gods existence. Like what if Jesus rose from the dead and said “There is no god, my dad was just some dude with a cool beard.” Wouldn’t that be some *****.
@bosoxfanzz (140): I was raised Unitarian. I think it was a good experience but I now judge all Unitarians as hippies haha.
Oh yeah on a serious note I only debat American stuff cuz its wht i know well. I was educated (on this very site actually) to never debate what you dont know. Youl get your ass handed to you as i did. Just cuz i like to box every now and again does mean iam or wanna sound stupid. I would never begin a debat about New Zealands president or laws cuz i dont ***** about it. (does new zealand hav a pres or prime minister like the brits anyway?) see? im provingmy point already. Anyhoo jus wanted to add that in.
@General Tits Von Chodehoffen (141): Well, that’s the thing. Since, most Christians’ beliefs are faith-based, disproving is an impossibility. Not saying “haha we won”, but in truth, these claims can’t be validated. I personally believe that Scientology is crap, but in all honesty, I can’t really say it isn’t real (unfortunately). So, you are right, what WOULD have to happen? Really, nothing can happen that will be able to disprove. For example, my beliefs manifested on their own, and therefore must disintegrate on their own. Nobody else can take that away from me, because nobody else gave it to me. Just for the record, I’m not bashing you, just in case you thought I was. Your comment made me lol
Holy crap, people are actually acknowledging my existence! Now I just need a reply from JFrater and I’m set.
lol
I cant say I believe any of it, if I believed in anything it’d be science. Interesting/good list nonetheless.
I’am a dudist too…Be cool
@vtenebrae (32): good comment on the biblical mysteries..it is quite annoying!
Admit it. You’ve been watching that (now misnamed) History Channel again. Sigh. Book. Of stories. Written by people.
In response to npatriquin
I do not mean to sound rude, however I truly fail to see the validity of your argument. This whole pattern things sounds a little nonsensical.
Let’s approach this from a both logical and religious perspective ( oxymoron.)
1. The closer a copy is to the original text in age (ex. the new testament) the more likely it would contain fewer errors, or changes.
2. The closer a copy of a text is to it original languages the more likely it would contain fewer changes, errors, or mistranslation.
3.When the new testament was begin “put together” , there was much debate about what to included. in the end men decided what to add and what to excluded.
Therefore one would argue that if someone wished to use the most accurate bible, it would have to be one that is in it original language or directly translated into another language, furthermore it would have to be translated from the oldest possible copy and also contain as many books , that can verifiably traced to the time period or/and writers of the bible.
If your bible does not meet this standard , then all the patterns in the world will not make it any closer to the original writings of the new testament.( which i do hope is the goal, right?)
#1. the bible was most likely not written by the apostle, and was instead passed around through oral means. this in -turn leads us to questioned the reliability of the writings to what was originally said by the apostles. but one must take into account the religiously significance of this. if you have ever been to a Muslim or Jewish place of worship, you will see how through repetition of verses(many times daily in some cases) , how amazing accurate oral tradition can be in a religious context.(Many of the orginal followers were indeed jewish) it is possible through this , the new testament was recorded extremely accurately to what the original apostles said.
I’ve always thought John was the Beloved Disciple. O_O
neat list!
: )
the stupid holy grail, mary magdalene, bible codes stuffs are made up by roman catholic *****s.. nonetheless they just want to get money from gullible people believing in popes and crucifixion stuffs. lol..
im not religious but it is an interesting subject and this is very interesting list. Particularly the ‘beloved disciple’. Are we suggesting Jesus might have been gay? Wouldnt that throw a spanner in the works of fundamentalist beliefs!
@105:
god is merciful,kind and all forgiving yet kills millions -like the two cities, the entire earth and everyone who dies
You forget that God is also Holy, Just and Judge. This isn’t a contradiction. Are your parents any less merciful, kind and forgiving if they punish you for your wrongs?
god is all powerful yet makes satan who can kill and inflict pain at will
Actually he can’t. Have you not read the account of Job and how satan was not permitted to take his life? He can only do what God, or we allow him to do.
Being all powerful means that God can do anything He determines to do. Creating satan doesn’t contradict this.
god gave us free will yet if you dont follow his rules to the letter you get tortured in hell eternally
You have the free-will to assume what is true about the universe and act upon it. Whatever you choose has consequences. Would you say that you don’t have free-will in society because if you break the law you go to jail? The difference is you reject what God has laid down simply because you don’t like it, not because it contradicts free-will.
This isn’t a rational way to think.
jesus is gods son and god. which is it? jesus never claims to be god and speaks to god (himself?) directly many times
It is both. In Him dwells the full nature of God, and this also makes Him the only begotten Son of God. Would you ask “light is red and blue, which is it?” knowing that it can be both?
Have you not read where Jesus said “I and my Father are one?” And again when He was asked by the religious authorities if He was the Son of God, He said “It is as you say”, and furthermore, when He claimed to be greater than Abraham, He said “Before Abraham was, I AM” invoking the name of God Himself and claiming to be eternally pre-existent?
Tell me, what crime did they accuse Jesus of when they tried to put Him to death? It was blasphemy because He claimed to be God.
the world was made in 6 days in an instant- science has proven that wrong
This is a contradiction. How can something be made in 6 days in an instant? It can be posited that science hasn’t proven this wrong and that science can show this to be entirely plausible. It’s the interpretations of evidence that differ.
jesus is all loving and kind- killed a tree as it wouldnt bear fruit on command, not knowing it was out of season.
He was demonstrating His power to His disciples and making a point about being active and bearing fruit whether in season or out of season because they were not like plants, they were expected to be ready and active at all times. This says nothing about His treatment of humans or animals as the same ethics do not apply.
also attacked and destroyed poor traders stalls in a fit of rage. he also mocked a woman from a lower class of people in isreal calling her a dog.
Haven’t you read how the traders were dishonoring the temple by turning it into a place of consumerism? If a person enters your fathers house as a guest, do you let them treat it as they wished?
You lack understanding of the context of Jesus’ statement. He was not mocking the woman but testing her. Do you not also know the difference between *****ogy and reality? He was sent first to Israel and it was His disciples who would be sent to the rest of the world, yet this woman demonstrated great wisdom and faith in realizing that even the smallest gesture from Jesus was enough to heal her child. He commended her, He did not mock her.
isrealites were oppressed slaves of egyptians yet historical records show they werent. david had a massive empire yet historical evidence shows he owned a small patch of land.
Historical records used to show that Ninevah didn’t exist. Imagine the surprise when it was discovered. There has also been found archeological evidence for both the slavery and David’s empire. What records are you referring to?
god is wise and fair yet kills and maims. turns a woman into salt just for looking back, orders a man to kill his son, forces a man to kill his daughter in exchange for victory.
God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah in a catastrophic way. Lot’s wife died because she fell behind so she could watch and fell victim to the destruction. If there were an explosion behind you, would you stop and look or turn and run? Could you blame anyone other than yourself if you fell victim to the explosion as a result?
God tested Abraham’s faith, knowing full well He didn’t want Him to sacrifice the boy (as he was the result of a promise) and Abraham acted in faith being aware of that promise and the power of God to raise the boy from the dead. Bottom line, Isaac wasn’t sacrificed but people like you tend to ignore that
God did not force the man to kill his daughter. That man made a foolish vow to God and he was convicted by his own conscience to carry out this vow. God didn’t tell him to and He didn’t force him to. We are told repeatedly to be careful of vows and even not to make them. This man also didn’t consider that God forbade human sacrifice.
There is also the theory that he actually dedicated his daughter to life service in the temple rather than took her life.
When all is said and done, I present the same question to you as I have before. Apart from God, how do you define what is good or bad? What is your ultimate standard for defining evil? For it is God who said not to murder because man has been made in His image and is therefore of great worth, and it is He who created the universe and blessed it calling it very good. Therefore, He defined why it is imperative to protect and preserve it. How else would you justify this in a universe of chance, meaningless and lack of purpose?
@110:
I asked you if you had a rational point to make, as in one you can logically justify and that isn’t simply arbitrary emotive rhetoric and you have answered that question by doing the same thing again.
If you wish, I can logically justify why I believe the Bible is a historical account of the last 6000 years or so. I can also provide examples of evidence that is consistent with this.
The existence of animal remains in the ground doesn’t prove or disprove anything. They do not come with a label saying how old they are and indeed, to date them you have to make several assumptions that can’t be justified.
Have you not read that Jesus spoke in parables so that those who wanted to hear would hear, and those who didn’t wouldn’t hear. In other words, it separates those who are truly searching for truth from those who aren’t. Those who transparently search for truth without an agenda will go where ever the evidence leads and will examine all things, fully convinced that there is an answer. Those who believed Jesus’ words believed that even if they didn’t have the answers right then, God would provide them if they looked for them. The other person is the one who has already decided that they will not search below the surface and will reject whatever is said as foolish.
If you want to find God, you will. If you don’t, you won’t. That’s why He sometimes spoke in figurative language or parables. Tell me, have you actually tried to search deeper into these things?
It’s unfortunate that you have to resort to ad hominem in your response because this further confirms that you don’t have a rational argument because this isn’t a rational way to debate.
@112:
You only “have” to do that if you aren’t reading the Bible the way it’s meant to be read, in the historical grammatical context. In such a context, you would understand that to the audience Jesus spoke to, the mustard seed was indeed the smallest seed known to them that would grow to a tree of great size as a metaphor for the church starting small and becoming great.
Aside from the account of Genesis, there is no original sin so what would it be a metaphor for? Where did original sin originate and with whom? Was it simply part of creation because if so, man could not be punished for what he didn’t choose to do. The Catholic Church is not the ultimate authority on what is true and what isn’t in the Bible. The Bible is its own authority as the Word of God, as there is none greater than God it stands to reason that His Word would stand on its own merit.
To say that mankind decides what is and isn’t true within it is to assume that man is the ultimate authority and not God. It’s essentially shooting oneself in the foot because they would remove all justification for their belief. This isn’t to say they would lose their salvation, but they would have no logically justifiable reason to have it in the first place.
Huzzah~!!!Jesus & God is fake!
In the KJV, the 47th word of Psalm 47 is “shake”. The 47th last word is “spear” – “Shake-spear”. Ta-da!
Of course, none of these mysteries will ever be solved as the bible is fiction, but it is still quite entertaining that at least one author of the Bible felt that Ethiopia(or a location quite near it) was the cradle of humanity. Realisitically though, it may have been common for all ancient civilizations/religions to have “known” humans first emerged in the area we now call Ethiopia, but most religious works were either lost, destroyed, or never written down.
Lord Darth Mysterio (125): “The Lost Tribes are Lost, thats why they are called the Lost Tribes, Duh….” -ROFLMAO !
The Honest truth: One of the most fundamental questions we ask are self during are life . do i believe in God? interesting……. believe? not do I know there is a God? Whether due to the fragility and limits of the human mind, or simply because of the limit of are lifespan. it is impossible to know truthfully if he exists or not.
To the scientist amongst us: Evidence can come about that greatest contradict the bible account, however that disproves the bible , not the fundamental question whether god exist or not. Science cannot completely disprove that god does not exist, no more can it disprove , alien might exist or ghost. Science deals with what CAN be observed, tested, or made to react. If we are unable to observe something do we assume it is not there? Only a foolish scientist would fall into such a trap. The proper scientist we simply say,” it is not testable at the moment , therefore I don’t know. ”
to the believer amongst us: Faith. simply put, is the driving force behind all conviction. You choose to believe, all for their own reasons. Some find hope, other strength, for other it is a tool used for self promotion. Still the fact remains, you do not know. (unless God has spoken to you personally, which i doubt). All you have to go by is a book and your faith. When asked to prove without a doubt god exists the honest faithful say ” I cannot”. then how do you know he exist? ” I just know.”
I myself am an agnostic , I can not lie to myself or to god. I simply do not know. but who amongst us does?
All of these lost biblical treasures can be easily found… in your head.
Even thought i am not a religious person this was very interesting
@Stizzy (155):
Listen, the earth is older than six thousands years. Genesis is not an historical account. Dinosaurs did exist millions of years ago. We know all of these things to be fact. They are as infallible as our knowledge that the Earth revolves around the Sun and that people who use smileys in their writing tend to be more than a little annoying. If you choose not to believe these things then, again, please don’t talk to me about rationality. So far everything you’ve said has been completely devoid of any rational logic. And yes, i am attacking you. Your ideas do not deserve to be debated, we know that they are wrong and i’m not going to treat them with any kind of respect. It’s you who i take issue with. Why, with all the evidence that is available, do you still choose to believe the rubbish that you do. It’s cowardly and lazy. Yes it may be hard to accept that you’ve devoted your life to something wholly imaginary, but be big enough and brave enough to accept that and move on. If you cant do that then at least keep your craziness to yourself.
@ianz09 (136):
First off,
‘your lack of belief in God is based on lack of evidence.’
No. I don’t believe in god because of the insurmountable pile of evidence that suggest otherwise.
‘But my belief in God is FAITH based, meaning you will under no circumstance ever be able to disprove the existence of God. I’m so sorry that you can’t hear logic from your high horse’
Can you not see the ludicrousness of this. Accuse me of not hearing logic, whilst also claiming that you believe in something which no body will ever be able to disprove, what? That is the height of stupidity and fundementalism. Trust me i understand logic, and there is not an ounce of it in any of your argument. As i’ve already said, the evidence is out there, if your too blissfully ignorant to pick up a book and look at it then i really am at a loss. Again, just don’t force your nonsense on your children.
@Tenebrae (124):
I apologies for tarnishing you with the same brush, i was quite rash in my exasperation with this whole argument. However i still do not agree with some of what you say. The burden of proof always must lie with those who make the claim. Just because something cannot be disproved it does not make it a valid point of discussion. (google Russel’s teapot).
Secondly, i do believe that people who base their opinions on evidence, facts and logic should have a monopoly over ‘The Truth’. People who base their beliefs around faith, or blindly following what others have told them, without any thought of questioning them should not be allowed in to the grown ups room.
@General-Jake (133):
Again my apologies, you sound like a decent bloke and i didn’t mean to jump down your throat.
lolfail
I like the Equidistant Letter Sequence! hehehe!
@163:
You believe all those things to be fact. I do not.
What is fact is that the Earth is here and has been for a long time, that its age must be interpreted and that there are many dinosaur remains within earths strata. Those are facts we can observe.
You contrast the earth going round the Sun (a fact) with people who use emoticons being annoying (an opinion) and then claim that your interpretations of these other facts is as infallible as the facts themselves. Do you see the problem here?
I have logical reasons for why I do not believe these things and I can rationally justify those reasons. You haven’t provided reasons for why you believe let alone justified your belief. You’ve simply sat there and hurled abuse and resorted to dismissive rhetoric so of course i’m going to talk to you about debating rationally.
If you cannot even do it and refuse to do it, how can you try and impose such a standard on anyone else?
To name just a few examples, the presence of C14 and helium in diamonds meant to be billions of years old points to a young Earth.
The presence of soft tissues in dinosaur bones would seem to indicate that these bones are not in the millions of years as such traces should have decayed.
The Bible has consistently and accurately described historical events and people both during, after and even before such events took place.
Furthermore, I find that nothing else apart from the biblical God can logically justify the universe we exist in.
Our DNA contains digial, complex, specified information. In every context known to man, such information is always the product of an intelligence. It is highly improbable that given the entirety of time scientists claim we’ve had in the universe that even the simplest protein could form through natural processes.
In a universe that has consistent laws of physics, we must ask how such laws came to be and why they are consistent? What reason do we have to believe such conditions will exist tomorrow?
If you say “Because we remember they’ve always remained the same”, we may ask if our memories are the resulting product of random chemical reactions, how can we be certain they are reliable? If you say “Because I took a memory test 2 weeks ago and did quite well” how do you know your memory of taking the memory test is accurate or reliable?
Further, if our senses (through which we observe these things) are the resulting product of random chemical reactions, what justifiable reason do we have to assume they basically work?
I believe the universe is consistently and uniformly upheld by physical laws because God has decreed it to be so and upholds such laws so that the life is possible and as a reflection of His nature as a logical, consistent God.
Also, could we not rely on this uniformity, predictability would be impossible and furthermore science itself would be impossible. We have to assume that if we do a test tomorrow that is the same as one we did yesterday, that the results will be the same due to the laws of physics not changing. But apart from God, what reason do we have to assume this would be so?
I believe that God has created our memories and our senses to be basically reliable so that we can observe, explore and understand this amazing universe, interact with it and each other and ultimately interact with Him.
I believe we are capable of vast intelligence, a sense of morality, comprehension of logic, perceptions of beauty and altruism because we are made in the image of God and are thus able to reflect His nature.
Furthermore there is the immaterial nature of information, logic, laws of nature and mathematics. Things that stand in stark contrast to philosophies such as materialism, naturalism and empiricism which I find all to be self-refuting.
How do you determine that the material is all there is without going beyond the material universe? If you did so, you would refute materialism. In order to prove it true, it would have to be false.
How do you determine that all things are the product of natural processes when natural processes cannot justify the pre-conditions of intelligiblity?
How do you determine that all knowledge can be observed through the senses when that very statement cannot be observed through the senses?
There are many other reasons I believe, but this is a few in brief.
And yes, i am attacking you. Your ideas do not deserve to be debated, we know that they are wrong and i’m not going to treat them with any kind of respect. It’s you who i take issue with.
Again, subjective opinion and therefore arbitrary. What you think of me or your problem with me is irrelevant to the points I’m making.
Why, with all the evidence that is available, do you still choose to believe the rubbish that you do. It’s cowardly and lazy. Yes it may be hard to accept that you’ve devoted your life to something wholly imaginary, but be big enough and brave enough to accept that and move on. If you cant do that then at least keep your craziness to yourself.
I disagree that it is rubbish and it is because of evidence and other factors that I believe what I do.
In what way is it cowardly and lazy? It is not I who is attacking a world-view without actually taking the time to look into it and check that my attacks hold weight.
Wholly imaginary? So, that we live on an incredible world within a vast universe that appears fine tuned to life, that this universe is ordered with uniform laws of physics, that the world is filled with a vast array of creatures that all reproduce according to their kinds, that humanity have the capacity for vast intelligence, a sense of morality, comprehension of logic, perceptions of beauty and altruism are wholly imaginary? Because you can find all of these things and more in what I’ve devoted my life to.
If that really is all imaginary then I really am crazy, but then I suspect so are you as I doubt you would say those things are wholly imaginary.
That my beliefs crazy is your own belief, and as you do not feel you should keep yours to yourself, you can hardly impose that I keep my beliefs to myself.
A wise person once said “Behind every double standard is a single hidden agenda” I suspect that your double standard isn’t a product of the data or the facts, but philosophical bias. I suspect that your double standard comes from you simply not liking what I believe irrespective of whether it’s true or not.
If someone were to argue that common descent via modification was rubbish & untrue because they didn’t like the idea of being descended from an ape, you’d hardly consider that a rational argument.
All I’ve asked is that rather than being rhetorical, you justify your statements
I don’t expect that anything I have said should persuade you as that isn’t my intention. My intention is simply to justify my position.
Stay well.
@Stizzy (165):
I’m stunned. You honestly believe with all your heart that the world is around 6000 years old. What’s more you try to rationally justify your beliefs. I thought people like you were just a myth. A scary story you tell idiot kids so that they do their homework. I am genuinely interested in hearing your views on other things which i know, repeat, know to be fact that you perhaps have decided are not to your liking.
1) Do you believe in evolution
2) Do you believe the Earth is round
3) Did we exist at the same time as dinosaurs, or did they just not exist at all.
I would be more than appreciative if i could here your fruitcake views on these matters as well.
Oh, and if you want me to show my workings, how i came to the crazy conclusion that the world is billions not thousands of years old, then Google radiometric dating. I’m sure you’ll find some interesting articles to start with.
@archiealt (162): You misunderstood my argument.
My belief in God is, I’ll admit, illogical, but if you read my previous comments, you will know that I never claimed it was. You are illogical because you assumed that by claiming insurmountable evidence to God not existing, you would be able to bestow your immaculate truth upon the believers. My argument was THIS: Evidence will shatter fact, not faith. My argument was NOT: God is real. Whether you believe or do not believe, it is undeniable fact that evidence will not destroy faith, unless that person is irrefutably weak and fickle in that faith. This isn’t a contradiction, or an opinion. It is simple, hard fact, that despite your best efforts, some people will grasp at straws just keep their god. I am not saying God is real. I AM saying, that my personal belief is that He is, and that because I believe without evidence, that evidence will not change my mind. You believe in evolution because there is evidence to support it. If facts were released today that indisputably denounced evolution, you would disown evolution. I don’t foresee this happening, however, as evolution makes too much sense (yes, I believe in evolution).
If you have never known faith, you won’t understand, not fully. I am generally a logical person. I am a skeptic when it comes to most things, and do not accept anything as truth without evidence or experience. However, I always accept things as possibility, so as not the lock the door on them before they even knock. I have had personal experiences that have lead me to faith in God, and no I will not share them. First, because they’re personal, second, because it wouldn’t help anyway. I used to be an atheist, a rather arrogant one. You will never be able to comprehend unconditional faith in anything, not just God, until you have been given a reason to throw yourself out there for it. “You don’t know peace ’til you’ve had suffering.” (Solitaire Unraveling, Mushroomhead). Don’t denounce my faith, simply denounce your own. Even if God doesn’t exist, He has had a bigger impact on this world than any living man (yes, a paraphrased line from South Park, but it’s true). Therefore, is it really that illogical to have faith?
When it comes to the aspect of God, you are a man of fact, I of faith. We will never come to an agreement, but I wasn’t trying to convert you anyways. Like I said before, atheist or not, it is undeniable that evidence won’t shatter (true, unconditional) faith. It would be like trying to unlock a door with the wrong key.
I’m done, archiealt, I’ve made my point. I’m not bashing you over the head with a God-is-real-I’m-right-you’re-wrong stick, so don’t argue that angle anymore. I’m tired of typing the same argument in multiple comments. You are trying to play my chess game with checkers pieces.
In other, simpler words, I’m done giving a *****, kiss my ass. Debating with you is like trying to break out of a supermax prison with a meatball and a shoe string.
Some day I’ll actually finish reading the Bible, from the standpoint of a lit nerd, it’s a great piece of writing. But, I am not a follower. To me, finding Eden or the Grail or the Ark equates to someone trying to find Middle Earth or Florin and Guilder. But to each his own. Very nice list.
Some very interesting points raised here, which has got me thinking!
Can I have a go…
Where is the Holy Grail?
The cup Jesus drank from at the last supper would have been used many more times then probably thrown away when it broke and it would have rotted away centuries ago.
Where is the Ark of the Covenant?
Melted down after the Babylonians destoyed the temple and probably made into coins, jewelry etc…
Where is the Garden of Eden?
If it was a Garden created by God, anywhere. It does not even have to exist in our plan of existance. The authors of the Bible wrote desciptions of the world to their understanding of it.
The Bible appears to contain coded messages; is this a coincidence?
Yes, Duh!
What happened to the lost tribes?
They’re lost, if we knew where they were they wouldn’t be lost. Alternatively. after the destruction of Israel the people who made up the tribes were scattered, enslaved or dead.
Where is Noah’s Ark?
Rotted away centuries ago
Glad I came back to this site some new very interesting items which I wanted to know more about. Great work on your site.
@ianz09 (167):
Please don’t talk to me like a fool, i understand your argument completely, it is just a ridiculous argument to be making. To say we cannot apply evidence to faith is a very dangerous notion. Many of the problems we have in this world would be solved with logic, if it were not for the fundamental position that people like yourself take which prevents logic from prevailing. Faith and fact are not two separate ways of arriving at a conclusion. Faith is not on a par with fact. Faith is a by word for irrationality. A man such as yourself who seems to understand this, and yet still chooses to look the other way is even more infuriating than somebody who perhaps does not know any better. Despite what you may think, faith is also not a tangible emotion, such as happiness or fear. So to say something such as ‘if you have never known faith’ is an incredibly annoying and condescending thing to say. It also shows a complete misunderstanding of the nature of the word faith. It is a word, and therefor is man made. It has no deeper, special, hidden meaning, simply a word used to justify somebody’s irrational position when there is no evidence to support there claim. Nothing more nothing less.
Some very interesting points have been made here, it is refreshing to see that your site gets quality visitors.
Love the new look, keep up the great work the number of visitors must have increased?.
This was a really great read, I am very glad I came across your site.
Although it is correct that it is common thought that the Exodus occured when Rameses II the Great was Pharaoh, the picture you show above is his father, Seti I. Minor thing, but just thought I’d point that out.
@166:
1) That depends on what you mean by “evolution” If you mean “change” or “natural selection” then yes, I do. This can clearly be seen and has been tested.
If you mean common descent via modification, that all organisms have a single ancestor and have evolved from that organism, then no. This isn’t fact, this is theory. This hasn’t been observed but speculated and the data is stacked against it being possible.
2) Why wouldn’t I? That’s something we can actually see (as opposed to one kind of creature changing into another or abiogenesis), furthermore, the Bible itself said as such even when people were claiming it was flat
3) Mankind existed at the same time as dinosaurs. They being land animals, they would have been created on the same day as all other land animals.
We can find numerous accounts of supposed sightings of creatures that fit the description of dinosaurs. You can see cave drawings and etchings that depict recognisable dinosaurs. Furthermore, you have to wonder why we have so many dragon legends throughout history. Perhaps these were based on actual encounters with humans?
We also should consider the numerous “living fossils” scientists continue to find and continue to find. The question you have to ask is why do you assume that humans could never or have never lived side by side with dinosaurs?
Ah yes, radiometric dating. You must have missed my mention of C14 in diamonds as radiometric dating methods would say such diamonds are as old as the Earth and yet there shouldn’t be any C14 or Helium inside them. We find an abundance.
There is also instances of radiometric dating being performed on rocks of known age such as the dome on Mt Saint Helens which was dated to millions of years old even thogh the dome formed in the 1980′s.
Following this is the fact that radiometric dating is based on assumptions that cannot be verified, such as the starting proportions of daughter to parent element and that the rate of decay has remained constant.
Tests have shown that the rate of decay can change and recent reports have shown that neutrinos have been found to increase the decay rate of a certain element which seems to coincide with the earths position relative to the sun if I remember correctly.
But see, I can present all this to you but because of your philosophical bias, you may use a rescuing device to explain away such contrary evidence and so the debate comes down to one of world-views. I have presented mine and I have rationally justified it. You haven’t provided evidence that I haven’t done so or presented a counter-argument. You haven’t addressed the issues I raised about how a Godless world-view affects the possibilty of science and knowledge.
Put simply rather than actually providing any rational argument when asked if you have one, you’ve dismissed everything arbitrarily. You say that my ideas are fruit cake ideas, yet how do you expect your point to be taken seriously if you cannot even logically present it?
silly mormons believe the garden of eden is in Missouri, USA!
((In response to #149 atlaseternal at Sep 7 at 10:58 pm …re: This …pattern things sounds …nonsensical. Let’s approach this from a both logical and religious perspective…1. The closer a copy is to the original text in age …the more likely it would contain fewer errors))
atlaseternal –thanks for your response. I try to never take good strong discussion as rude—yours are good comments. What I believe you are saying is that based on our best logical *****ysis we can conclude the most accurate Bible is the one we can best trace back to the original text. The problem is, how do we really know which is the original text since we don’t have any copies of them? All this study is based on scholars best guesses based on the evidence they can find. I agree with your conclusion, but you must admit there are many honest scholars who have come to different conclusions about these “truths”. There can only be one truth about what passages of God’s word are God’s and which ones men have corrupted.
But now there’s new evidence contridicting some of our scholar’s assumptions. Evidence that is very compelling in verification through both common sense and mathematical calculation– I asked and nobody has yet answered; is the middle chapter of the Bible being the smallest and only two verse chapter a coincidence (PS 117)? It would seem a simple enough question but I suspect you are hesitating to answer because the answer you want to give (not coincidence) does not make sense. It does not matter what Bible we are speaking of – if Ps 117 is found as the centerpoint chapter in any Bible, did it find itself there by accident? If not, then it is by design. The simple math that makes this evidence compelling is taking the total number of chapters (1189) and dividing by two to come up with the center chapter number. The common sense part is to ask ourselves; does our common sense tell us that is an accident? I’m trying to appeal to calculations that I cannot misuse to make an incorrect assertion. Let me give you an even more compelling one.
In the KJV, Matthew chapter 24 is a chapter focused on the Day of the Lord — the day the Lord will come to avenge his people. Note, that “coincidentally” there are 24 hours in a day. Verse 42 (the numbers 24 in reverse which Greek and Hebrew number expression-gematria- considered the same) which is the key verse of the chapter tells us to be on the alert because we do not know at what hour/day this will occur. So verse 42 (24) is associated directly with verse text about the Day of the Lord. It probably seems like I’m playing with numbers and I would agree without this next bit of evidence…Matthew 24:42 with both chapter and verse text focused on the “DAY” of the Lord is the 24,000th verse of the KJV Bible. This is amazing– I’ve had a professional mathematition calculate the probabilities of these five associations for the number 24 falling together on one verse of the Bible and his calculated number of inprobability was so big I don’t like to quote it—billions to one. With a little effort and a KJV anyone can verify how all these numbers line up for themselves. What does your common sense tell you about this evidence? Coincidence? By design? How did this happen?
The evidence is like God is saying; STOP, PAY ATTENTION. I’M SHOWING YOU SOMETHING I WANT YOU TO KNOW.. If these were only a few limited evidences, I would have dropped this long ago, but as you might expect; if the pattern goes throughout the Bible as I claim, the evidence is enormous when you know what to watch for. I have five friends now, all strong believers who once strongly believed I was nuts, but now can’t deny the evidence themselves. For myself and these friends, it has really been a process of no longer being able to deny the evidence that finally pushed us to give in to the reality. It has taken my friends years to finally accept the discovery. My book editor finally accepted the evidence after six months but we were working together on almost a day basis for that time.
When I first began observing these evidences I rejected them as well knowing that for thousands of years scholars and those much smarter and wiser than I both had evidence to the contrary, and certainly would have spotted this evidence before now. But over ten years in a very slow and progressive way the evidence I could no longer deny finally pushed me over the edge—God had somehow supernaturally constructured and preserved his word.
It might surprise you to know I would be a happy man if I was proven wrong. I could go back to my normal life and no longer have to tell this impossible story nobody believes. My book was not written to make money, it was written to explain this discovery. I’ve sacraficed hundreds of thousands of dollars of income to do what I’m doing now. But, the math and numbers do not lie-it is what it is and I will keep sharing what I see until God somehow tells me to stop. I know this sounds nutty—that is, until you truly investigate it for yourself.
Psa 12:6-7 The words of the LORD are pure words; As silver tried in a furnace on the earth, refined seven times. You, O LORD, will keep them…
Noah’s Ark – Found (mystery solved)
Sodem and Gomorrah – Found (mystery solved)
The Garden Tomb – Found (mystery solved)
Ark of the Covenant – Found but only by witness. Yet to be shown to the public in due time..