The Nobel prize for peace. It is a controversial award having been granted to many who seemingly don’t deserve it, and not granted to those who do. This list looks at ten people who were robbed of the prize.
Irena Sendler was a Polish Catholic who died in 2008. From 1939 to 1945, she personally saved the lives of 2,500 Jewish children from the Warsaw Ghetto. She forged identification papers, passports, sheltered them in children’s homes throughout Warsaw.
The Gestapo caught her in 1943 and severely tortured her for the location of the Jews she had extricated from the Ghetto. She refused to give them up. She was sentenced to death and saved by a bribe to the Nazi officer in charge, who simply left her in deep in a forest with all four limbs broken.
She recovered and went right back to work saving Jews from the Ghetto. She was nominated in 2007, but was passed over in favor of Al Gore. She was 98 when she died.
Mohandas Gandhi was murdered in 1948. He began his work for Indian independence from Britain in 1916 and finally succeeded in 1947, when Louis Mountbatten relinquished India from Britain to the Indians. One man, by himself, Gandhi has been credited with defeating the British Empire singlehandedly, without raising one finger in violence.
He was nominated in 5 years, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1947, and 1948. 19 people nominated him in those years, especially Ole Colbjornsen, member of the Norwegian Parliament, who nominated him the first 3 times. In the years between 1939 and 1947, he was either not nominated by anyone, or the Swedish Academy refused to consider nominations during the War. Likewise, in the years preceding 1937, not one person on Earth nominated him.
A rule stipulates that death before being awarded the Prize renders one ineligible for it, nominated or not. But I think the Academy could have given it to him posthumously, and no one would have complained. In which case, they could still award it to him for the year 1948. He could certainly replace Cordell Hull, for 1945. Hull is mentioned on another Listverse list.
It is possible that his “experiments” with under-aged children (item 8) reduced his chances of receiving the prize, but as earlier stated, most people would probably not object to his having been awarded the prize despite them.
The head of the Edhi Foundation, based in Pakistan, he is a philanthropist, who in 1951 opened a small medical shop in Karachi, using his own meager funds, with the sole intention of helping anyone who came in. He had learned little about medicine, but wanted to help people. He claims that he does so because he enjoys it, in the same way that an evil man enjoys hurting people.
He has been treating everyone in the Karachi area, and all areas where his branches are located, over the whole world. He treats people at extremely low cost. He began the Edhi Foundation with donations from friends and supporters around Karachi, and the Foundation is a free maternity clinic and nursing school. Students may enroll at absolutely no cost. Tuition, books, and other equipment are free.
Karachi suffered a flu outbreak in 1957, and Edhi immediately set up tents in which he and his faculty treated everyone for free. He bought an ambulance with donations, which he personally drove to accidents, and to his own clinic, or to hospitals. The Edhi Foundation has a $10 million budget, but Edhi refuses to take any of the money for himself. As he is still alive, it is not entirely fair that he should be on this list, as he may win in the future. But I thought it fitting, given the recent 2009 Peace Prize, and the fact that he was considered for it also.
Jose Figueres Ferrer was the President of Costa Rica 3 times, and during his first term, he granted women the right to vote, stating that while men may be stronger, there is no difference between male and female mental faculties. He abolished his country’s army, arguing that only a police force is necessary for domestic law enforcement, and that an army only exists for the promise of invading another country; he did not believe any country around him wanted to invade Costa Rica.
After nationalizing Costa Rica’s banking and creating a welfare state, he outlawed Communism. Ferrer oversaw the writing of a new constitution, guaranteed state managed public education for every citizen, gave citizenship to the children of black immigrants, and established a civil service bureaucracy.
He graduated from Munich University in 1932, and was appointed as a diplomatic secretary in Turkey, then in Vienna in 1937. The next year, Hitler annexed Austria, and Ho was promoted to Consul-General of the Chinese Embassy in Vienna.
After Kristallnacht, everyone in Austria knew full well the predicament facing the 200,000 Jews throughout the country. Their only hope was to escape from Europe, and this was possible only with exit visas. The Evian Conference of 1938 caused 38 countries to refuse Jews immigration, and Ho was ordered by Chen Jie, the Chinese ambassador to Berlin, not to provide visas for Jews.
Ho endangered himself for all six years of the War by refusing to obey this order. He issued 1906 visas by 27 October 1938, some for Jews, some not. How many Jews he saved will never be ascertained, but given that he issued almost 2,000 in only his first 6 months, he may have saved thousands of lives. Whoever saves one life saves the world entire. He was 96 when he died. He has been nicknamed “China’s Schindler.”
He has been called “the Mexican Martin Luther King.” He found working conditions appalling for common Latino laborers in California, and co-founded the National Farm Workers Association, which is now called United Farm Workers. He organized civil rights activism, and became the Community Service Organization’s national director in 1958. His efforts to gain higher wages and better working conditions for farm laborers finally succeeded in 1966.
After that, he fought to restrict illegal immigrants from entering the U. S. and taking jobs from legal Mexican citizens. His birthday is a state holiday in California. He died in 1993, and the next year was awarded the Medal of Freedom from Bill Clinton.
After Nelson Mandela was imprisoned in 1964, Steve Biko became the primary authority of the anti-Apartheid movement in South Africa. He founded the Black Consciousness Movement and advocated a worldwide “brotherhood of man.”
He was the primary architect of the protests that reached a head at the Soweto Uprising in June, 1976. He preached non-violence, which was not entirely heeded, and the uprising resulted in Apartheid police slaughtering school children at random in the crowds.
They then targeted Biko and finally caught him, and beat him to death, from 11 September to 12 September, 1977.
Dorothy Day (November 8, 1897 – November 29, 1980) was an American journalist, distributist, and devout Catholic convert. In the 1930s, Day worked closely with fellow activist Peter Maurin to establish the Catholic Worker movement, a nonviolent, pacifist, movement that continues to combine direct aid for the poor and homeless with nonviolent direct action on their behalf. A revered figure within segments of the U.S. Catholic community, Day is being considered for sainthood by the Catholic Church. Day has been the recipient of numerous posthumous honors and awards. Among them: in 1992, she received the Courage of Conscience Award from the Peace Abbey, and in 2001, she was inducted into the National Women’s Hall of Fame in Seneca Falls, New York.
Oskar Schindler was the most famous member of the Avenue of the Righteous. He saved 1,200 Jews from the Nazis by employing them in his munitions factories from 1943 to the end of the War. He therefore placed himself in extreme mortal peril constantly during that time, as the Nazis knew full well that his workers were Jewish.
He was very persuasive, having paid millions to the Nazi Party up to that time, and insisted that his workers were more useful to the Wehrmacht by manufacturing pots, pans, and ammunition. But secretly, he had his workers sabotage the ammunition so it would not function.
On April 28, 1935, four years before the War even started, Eugenio Pacelli (soon to become Pope Pius XII) gave a speech that aroused the attention of the world press. Speaking to an audience of 250,000 pilgrims in Lourdes, France, the future Pius XII stated that the Nazis “are in reality only miserable plagiarists who dress up old errors with new tinsel. It does not make any difference whether they flock to the banners of social revolution, whether they are guided by a false concept of the world and of life, or whether they are possessed by the superstition of a race and blood cult.” During the war (when Pacelli had become Pope) he spoke out strongly in defense of the Jews with the first mass arrests in 1943, and L’Osservatore Romano carried an article protesting the internment of Jews and the confiscation of their property. The Fascist press came to call the Vatican paper ‘a mouthpiece of the Jews.’
Prior to the Nazi invasion, the Pope had been working hard to get Jews out of Italy by emigration; he now was forced to turn his attention to finding them hiding places: “[t]he Pope sent out the order that religious buildings were to give refuge to Jews, even at the price of great personal sacrifice on the part of their occupants; he released monasteries and convents from the cloister rule forbidding entry into these religious houses to all but a few specified outsiders, so that they could be used as hiding places. Thousands of Jews — the figures run from 4,000 to 7,000 — were hidden, fed, clothed, and bedded in the 180 known places of refuge in Vatican City, churches and basilicas, Church administrative buildings, and parish houses. Unknown numbers of Jews were sheltered in Castel Gandolfo, the site of the Pope’s summer residence, private homes, hospitals, and nursing institutions; and the Pope took personal responsibility for the care of the children of Jews deported from Italy.”
The consequences of the actions of Venerable Pope Pius XII in defense of the Jews were such that the Chief Rabbi of Rome (Rabbi Zolli) during WWII converted to Catholicism and changed his name to Eugenio (out of reverence for the Pope). [Source]






























#83 Petie: Lol too true al gore is a dunderheaded coconut. It wierdly fits him too.
I agree that these people all should have won the prize, and many others. However, I as the selfless figures that they are, I believe they felt their reward was the gratefulness of those that they saved. All of them will be remembered forever in the history books as great humanitarians. Thousands of people escaped death and/ or lived better lives thanks to these people, and I’m sure that meant more to them than some piece of metal.
@Chanchita (119):
I know what he meant, when I read that I also thought it sounded a bit…I dunno…just seemed quite a strange way to put it at the time. Of course I know ‘mum’ didn’t mean it that way, and the sentiment behind the post was spot on, but there where a couple of things in it that made me giggle.
Also, I think it would be unfair to pin the whole of the holocaust on Hitler. I think it’s fair to say that it was his baby, but the likes of Himmler also had a big hand in overseeing the operation.
Oh, and on the debate people are having with regards to Obama getting the Noble Peace Prize, let’s see if the judges still feel that was the correct decision when he’s invading Pakistan.
@Barold (118):
I really want to see protesters outside Mcdonalds with signs like
‘Stop Killing Beef’ and ‘Beefs have rights too’
@hitler (111): Even IF Flamehorse is a jew,he/she has made and contributed this list,not you,therefore he/she can write whatever he/she personally feels is correct.
@BravehisTickle (120):
Any President that takes in consideration the winning of a Nobel Peace Prize when making decisions should not be President.
I hope comment 20 doesn’t bar me from submitting a list
I wonder about American Republican trolls visiting this site to spew venom on Obama. That you make reasons denying him Nobel Prize is understandable if not agreeable. But of the various ‘undeserving’ candidates that you compare Obama with, why not take the name of HENRY KISSINGER? What did HK do to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? He is no better than Arafat …
@archiealt (123): Ho sir,do you really think that USA would ever invade Pakistan? Pakistan is USA’s ally,it provided them with army bases during the attack on Afghanistan..and USA regularly provides Pakistan weapons,aid etc so that they can ‘battle’ terrorism in their own backyard..haven’t you read the recent reports on Pakistan bombings?
An Obama-invasion of Pakistan in the near or distant future is a foregone possibility.
@bucslim (64): @Julie (66): @General-Jake (78): @Petie (83): @General-Jake (121):
http://ricketyclick.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/irena_sendler_bw-1.jpg
@Eyeswideshut (127): Yeah,Republicans are still feelin’ *****ty that ‘ol McCain didn’t make it.
Great list again from the flaming hoofs, well done pal you must be burning the candle at both ends to pump out so many lists in such a short time, well done again.
@mom424 (116) Yes I
Nice list. I think lists like this should not be ranked, just indexed.
Also, the title doesn’t mention “Peace”. Kinda misleading …
mom424 at my comment 131 Im sorry it was cut short I have grandkids and sitting on my lap a wee while ago the little blighter must have done what all kids do play with the keyboard.
Will catch up later
I hope people got to know I was pointing to what’s happening in Iraq in comment 116
@Eyeswideshut (127): Yup, some of us are indeed American Republics. America is a ‘Republic’ of fifty states. Fifty individual states, each state is supposed to have a say in government. With that said, Obama’s a Federalist, and a damned arrogant, snotty one. Obama doesn’t believe in state rights, he believes his will will be done – regardless that more Americans disagree with him than agree. Anywho, arrogant Obama does not deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama talks A LOT, but has accomplished nothing. Zip. Which is actually a good thing.
Obama deserves every bit of venom. You see, here in AMERICA, we can spew all the venom we want against our government. It’s quite legal. Oh, I think I can say with confidence, most Americans don’t give a rat’s crap that europe and hollywood have a fashionable love affair with our current president.
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El the erf
November 4th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Wow. I can’t fathom the fact that Gandhi is no.9 on this list. (you forgot to mention the huge service he rendered for which he is remembered in South Africa)
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Andy V
November 4th, 2009 at 3:11 am
Mahatma Gandhi should have been much closer to #1 than his #9 position. His teachings of non violence, being truthful and cleanliness is still followed all around the world.
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Barold
November 4th, 2009 at 3:28 am
Stanley Tookie Williams was robbed of a nobel prize numerous times and then robbed of his life.
And why did you feel the need to include criticisms of Gandhi and no one else?
And as this is bound to turn into an Obama debate I think he probably got it for all he’s done for Western/Muslim relations, his work for non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, the (soon) closing of Guantanamo Bay and just his general decent attitude towards the world and everyone in it.
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Eyeswideshut
November 4th, 2009 at 6:19 am
Point#1: It is pathetic that you have to invoke “child experiments” in Gandhi’s write-up. To say that there are 8 folks who deserve it more than Gandhi is a crude joke at best. The last i saw, their efforts didn’t change the destiny of 500 million people!
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flamehorse
November 4th, 2009 at 6:39 am
I originally had Gandhi at #1, but the list has been changed in various places. No problem. I’m just glad it’s up. At least people are reading it.
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AJ
November 4th, 2009 at 7:36 am
“The Nobel prize for peace”
Not Fair, Peace = Non Violence = Gandhi. And you place him on the 9th Spot, check the History and will find out why am I saying this (Indian History).
Awesome List though………….
NUMBER 54 EXPLAINS THINGS WELL..
@RadioHead (135):
‘Obama talks A LOT, but has accomplished nothing’
Give him more time,bet he would accomplish much more than greedy Bush or what ‘ol McCain could have if he had been Prez.
@NiB (136): Bah!you were not required to copy paste the whole thing,just click at their username to reply..it unnecessarily lengthens the post.
@RickyRicardo and 85% of you on here:
It seems that commenters on LV are true Obama haters. How can you all come on here and blatantly disrespect (i.e. “our sofa-king-we-todd-did Obama”) the President of the United States as if he is doing absolutely nothing to fix our country. Ugh, I can’t read comments most of the time on this site because of the blatant hating and racism you all display gets to me. Quit with the racism and work together to help our country progress.
@RadioHead
Move out and make us sane citizens happier. Heard Canberra’s nice. Your negativity, racism and “*****ness” is freaking annoying and people like you make our country look bad.
@undaunted warrior (133):
“the little blighter”
I like it!!
@Americana (139): Who said anything racist? Disagreeing with someone is NOT racist.
Eyeswideshut
Gandhi alone has not given independence to India…..correct your facts.
@BravehisTickle (137): No, he just talks a lot. In one more year, we’ll have our mid-terms, the opposition party will take the House or Senate, then the US gov’t will be dead-locked once again. Just like the US government is supposed to be – in deadlock. The more politicians squabble, bicker, and fight amongst themselves because they can’t agree on the time of day, the less they impact the lives of ordinary people. Just like the Framers designed it to be.
So, I don’t care if you’re conservative or liberal, as long as one majority doesn’t have all the power at any one given time, the US gov’t doesn’t accomplish much. We’re fortunate Obama’s inept and snotty, because he’s lost his luster to many, many middle-of-the-road Americans. Russia’s not buying His Will Be Done, the Middle East isn’t buying His Will Be Done. Most Americans aren’t buying His Will Be Done. So, he can TALK all he wants. He can hold all the Beer Summits he wants. It ain’t going anywhere. Good.
@Americana (140): Its not racism, it’s just that there are much better candidates for the Peace Prize.
Obama is certainly not among the worst choices ever made for the nobel nor is he among the best choices ever made.
He’s probably hovering somewhere around the middle. He did do a lot to change the tone of American foreign policy and, like it or not, most of the international community appreciates this.
@Americana (140): And your use of the English language is ‘freaking’ annoying. Like, totally, gag me with a spoon or something.
Like, did I even mention Obama’s race? Well, duh, no, I did not. Like, do I even care about his race? Like, NooOOOOoooo. Hey, like, Al Gore is a very rich idiot! Does that make me racist against whites? Like Michael Moore is another rich idiot. Like, does that mean I hate all fat slobs?
When you read a sentence, do you even comprehend what the writer is trying to convey? Or do words go in one eyeball and right out the other with being processed?
@Americana (139): Because everyone was so respectful of Bush while he was in office?
No country is ever going to 100% respect it’s leader. Disapproving of him isn’t automatically racist, Americana.
@RadioHead (144): So what do you suggest, that McCain woulda been a better president? Politicians would be still bickering even then and suppose what if McCain(if elected prez) decides to attack Iran or some other nation like his predecessor..which he is very prone to..then what? That wouldn’t do any good either to the image of America as perceived by others or to the families of the soldiers who are already living on the edge.
Atleast some initiatives have been taken by Obama..don’t believe the same in case of McCain.
Change the title to Noble *Peace* Prize…I was expecting to read about the science discoveries that were never recognized, i.e. Einstein and relativity.
As for peace prizes, I always thought Reagan should have been awarded one for helping end the cold war and liberate eastern Europe. The founders of the European Union seem like a good choice, too.
Number 10 should have won the Nobel prize for awesomeness as judging from her picture she can perform the HADOUKEN!
@BravehisTickle (149): Cool story, bro!
If you gave Mohandes Gandhi the Nobel Peace prize, you would probably also have to give him the Nobel prize for capitulation, racism, division and nationalist isolation at a time when the rest of the world was trying to defeat the Nazis. But you’ve got to pick your battles, don’t you?
@RadioHead (144):
Your lack of knowledge about the American Constitution is typical of right wing loudmouths such as yourself. The horrible flaw in democracy is that the moronic and ignorant can still vote–and it’s quite clear you are just such a dull-witted voter. What a shame that there’s no feasible way of correcting this flaw. The only tool to address it is education. I suggest, therefore, that you listen up.
“In one more year, we’ll have our mid-terms, the opposition party will take the House or Senate,”
We’ll see. Frankly, I doubt it. Every poll I’ve seen still shows the Republican party to be roundly hated by the great majority of the American people. As the party as moved further and further to the insane right, it’s lost more and more of its grip on the voter, and more and more people express dissatisfaction and even hostility for Republicans.
“…then the US gov’t will be dead-locked once again. Just like the US government is supposed to be – in deadlock. The more politicians squabble, bicker, and fight amongst themselves because they can’t agree on the time of day, the less they impact the lives of ordinary people. Just like the Framers designed it to be.”
This is in fact not so, and is simply another right wing distortion of the truth, and really nothing more than an out-and-out lie.
IN FACT, “Radiohead” (by the way, change your name–I have no doubt the band would resent their moniker being co-op’d by some right wing jackass) our two party system is NOT built into the Constitution and is not even MENTIONED there. It is *tradition,* not “how the Framers designed it.” We settled into a two party system because it simply made things more expedient and efficient than having four or five major parties or more–though in fact most countries do settle into two or three, at most four major parties, with a few notable exceptions. The US early on settled into two parties, and the system has been somewhat gamed to support that in several ad hoc ways–but it was NOT the intention of the Framers for this to be so, else they would have written it in. It was not. Some supported such a system, that’s true–but others did not. But support is not the same thing as “designed,” and it is certain that the two party system is NOT “official” in the US and never should be.
The Framers never intended for there to be “deadlock.” They would, in fact, have found this anathema to their notion of a functioning government. What they designed is a system of separation of powers–which is by no means the same thing. This does not equal deadlock in the slightest. What causes deadlock is, rather, polarized politics, for the most part.
“So, I don’t care if you’re conservative or liberal, as long as one majority doesn’t have all the power at any one given time, the US gov’t doesn’t accomplish much.”
Which is an insane thing to wish for and be proud about.
I have news for you, pinhead. The US government accomplishes a great deal every day regardless of whether you think it’s in “deadlock” or not. And in fact, much of it is for the good. We were never meant to HATE government, jackass. We were meant to only be distrustful of it, to keep our eyes on it, to be active participants in it as good citizens. Turning your back on it and wishing it into ineffectuality is NOT being a good citizen—it’s being a barbaric idiot—which is a growing cancer in the right wing, it seems.
“We’re fortunate Obama’s inept and snotty,”
This is your opinion. Frankly, I’d love to hear your evidence for his “ineptness,” particularly given the immense ineptness we were just saddled with the previous 8 years. As for “snotty,” this is particularly amusing. Is it code for “uppity,” one wonders? As in “uppity black man?” Perhaps. Or perhaps not. But it’s interesting you call a man “snotty,” who, for the most part, seems like an agreeable, decent enough sort, if a tad on the cold side.
“because he’s lost his luster to many, many middle-of-the-road Americans.”
Your opinion, and in fact I think a worthless and unsupportable one. Where’s your evidence for this? Dips in his polls? Please. There’s no precedent that says these dips in his approval ratings are anything but the usual cyclical movements in approval that *every* president endures—particularly one who is presiding over a horrible economic debacle, even if he did inherit it from the previous, inept Republican president.
Your wish that our government be eternally hog-tied is the childish wish of an ill-informed lout who doesn’t understand or grasp the way the world works in the slightest, but remains duped into thinking he’s got all the answers. You don’t. And frankly, I don’t think the majority of Americans really agree with you.
Reagan did NOT end the cold war.
@BravehisTickle (149): I do not think McCain would have made a better President.
What I think is, is that I have lost a great deal of respect for most politicians. They’re greedy, egotistical, blood sucking administrators. First and foremost, the less power they have, the better off we all are. Second, I think when the Constitution was written, the founding fathers knew this, so they put a system in place to severly hamper the progress (abuse) powerful people can make.
What this has to do with the Nobel Prize is beyond me. I think I razzed the Holy Savior of the Planet, Obama, and got automatically nailed as a racist. I probably insulted half of the world while I was at it. Whoops! And THAT is why I am not an Internation Ambassador.
@Anon (150): No Reagan should not have been because the Iran-Contra affair revealed his administration’s hypocrisy,that’s why.
You gotta have clean candidates for the NPP.
@Randall (154): Hello sire,I hope my post in the previous list has cleared any misconceptions you had about me.I am no ‘stalker’ or ‘troll’
@RadioHead (156):
“What I think is, is that I have lost a great deal of respect for most politicians. They’re greedy, egotistical, blood sucking administrators. First and foremost, the less power they have, the better off we all are.”
While I feel the same way about politicians (“politics” by the way is derived from two words – “poli” meaning many and “tics” which are small bloodsucking parasites), I do not think that taking power away from politicians is going to solve anything. What we need are a new breed of politicians. I think Obama actually marks the first wave of that new breed, though he is still to accomplish anything major. I don’t think he deserved the Nobel prize, certainly.
@Randall (153): Oh, there you are. You draw some mighty conclusions there, randall. Especially from my brief, Twitter sized comments. Gee, you got me pegged. Not really, I just said that in case you missed my sarcasm. You’re just trying to train-jack the discussion (is that the correct phrase the trendy IntraWeb users use to hijack a forum). I’ll have to look that one up. In the day, we just called it Bogarting.
Also, Reagan should not be considered because of his actions in Central America and the simple fact that he had almost nothing to do with the fall of Russian Communism.
Why is The Holocaust, called the Holocaust? Why don`t people refer to it, as another genocide? Like the genocides commited by England, France, Germany, The Ottoman Empire, Pol Pot, The Interhamwe, Radovan Karadzic and Ratko Mladic, and other madmen? If you think about it, seriously, child ***** is worse.
@BravehisTickle (124): So sweet of you! I’m not Jewish. Just ordinary ol’ Protestant. All my ancestors come from England. And I love Jews.
I would also like it duly noted that changes were made to this list primarily in the interest of slimming it down. I have no problem with it as it is, but I had Gandhi at #1, and I had Popes John XXIII, and John Paul II on here.
Gandhi was an incranation of the ideal of peace, and even the Nobel Committee, which usually doesn’t admit it’s mistakes, has said it’s ashamed to have missed him.
Good list. It’s a pity that the NPP has debased itself so badly over the years…especially recently.
muzli wrote “I think we have to remove “nice list”, “awesome list” etc from the entries. The same way we did for “first” entries. They’re annoying !”
I am personally annoyed by pointless griping.
@RadioHead (futurely know as AC/DC)_ (159):
So you have no answer. I thought so. Nice try at squirming away from the subject, but, to use a “trendy IntraWeb user” phrase, “epic fail.”
I too am old enough to have used the term “bogart,” Radiohead. It’s a pity that while we’ve each spent a similar number of years on this earth, I have learned and grown while you have only stagnated or moved backwards.
“Mighty conclusions?” Only from the evidence you presented. Check your rhetoric if you don’t want to give off a taint of right-wing nuttiness.
And if you think your comments are “Twitter-sized,” I’d say you’re not real “up” on the tech culture. In any event, you wrote long enough for an impression to be formed which I have little doubt is of great accuracy.
Care to offer any corrections?
As for hijacking the discussion, I’d love to see you illustrate THAT one. You made asinine, unsupportable statements–and I called you on them. That’s hardly “hijacking” anything. Except your unchallenged BS.
@Randall (167): Go back to academia, randall. I know your tricks, and I have better things to do than go in circles with creeps like yourself.
OHH PLZZZZZZ Ghandhi at no 1??? r u kidding me??? he doesnt even derserve 2 b on dis list…u might not knw but v know how dis so called “peace maker” betrayed d muslims of his land and got them killed…sorry but ghandi on dis list is totally out ov order…read history in detail of Indo-Pak partition thn you will knw…n make sure its not written by an INDIAN or definately u wud end up totally defocused…
@AC/DC (Formerly RadioHead) (168):
So… no answer. Got it.
Doesn’t take “tricks” to out a loudmouth who doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
@Randall (170): *Sigh* No, randall. I have answers. Apparently, they don’t jive with yours. And, I do not care to go around in circles with you. Frankly, you creep me out. There’s something not right about you.
@AC/DC (Formerly RadioHead) (171):’Frankly, you creep me out. There’s something not right about you.’ indeed
@AC/DC (Formerly RadioHead) (171):
Oh, I’m perfectly secure in the self-confidence that I am sane, rational, and quite normal. Can’t even give you a “nice try” on that one.
A) If you had the answers to give, you’d give them. It’s quite clear you don’t.
B) I have a thick skin, so I’m not impressed with your attempt to belittle me with the “creep me out” bull*****. In fact, I’m sure no one else is impressed either.
C) Let’s not play a “who gets the last word” game. If you have anything relevant to say in response to what I originally wrote to you, then say it. If all you can do is pull *this* silly nonsense, then let’s both shut up and walk away.
Wow, I was certainly not aware that Reagan ended the Cold War…this certainly seems like another conflict the US takes credit for ending, just like every conflict they’ve ever been involved in. I apologize for my ignorance, my knowledge of history is very limited so if someone more educated will correct me I will certainly appreaciate it, though that statement sounds a little far-fetched to me.
@Randall (173): Fine.
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@ Nicosia (166) Someone has to gripe once in order for all the other annoyingness to stop…
@ Sammie davis (176) Mmmm… I think I can hear your mum calling you, time to leave the grown-ups to their forum.
How in the hell does the LV administrator allow people like sammie davis and AC/DC (Formerly RadioHead) to keep their comments up? Pure racism and bigotry on this site. It is sickening.
@ WTF Listverse: Sometimes, freedom of speech can be annoying. However, I would rather have it than not.
Tell ya what AC/DC, I’ll help you out a bit.
Here is how everybody thinks Randall works:
He is an incredibly arrogant individual who takes great pleasure in bashing and flaming all those around him. He has no life but on the Internet, and has claimed this site as his own. He rules his online kingdom with an iron fist, and verbally smites those he disagrees with. He is truly an ass, and has nothing better to do with his life. If you even sneeze in a way he doesn’t approve of, you will be annihilated.
And now, the truth.
Randall in fact has very few qualms against people disagreeing with him. No, it’s true. But, he has a big problem with: arrogance, ignorance, immaturity, and irrelevant personal attacks. I have actually strongly disagreed with him before (see Controversial
Album Covers), and I survived! No, I’m not an invincible arguing machine. But I A) Wasn’t full of myself. B) Defended my position with strong, well thought out arguments. C) Kept the debate civil and adult. And D) Never insulted him or what he had to say, as there was no need. And when you aren’t *****ing at/about him, he is quite smart and funny, and is really pretty cool to talk to, on the couple occasions where I have. I have plenty of people state that they do not agree with him, and when they behaved like civilized adults, he chose not chew them out, but calmly talk to the person, never resulting in harsh words. I have also seen plenty of people make stupid or ignorant statements (ahem) and/or come here and say something similar to “Boy, that Randall sure is a dick. I mean, he thinks he is hot *****, huh?” You can assume, probably accurately, what happens next. He enjoys speaking his mind, and your statements clearly struck a chord. He doesn’t hijack threads, he contributes. He is a regular around here, and it is more expected for him to say something than for him not to. if this is a problem for you, I can’t really offer you anymore advice.
Also, I noticed when he said “change your name” you listened. I am not entirely sure of why you chose to, but it was interesting.