What is urban exploration, you ask? Urban exploration is the act of delving into the darker side of one’s local history, the unknown tidbits that have been obscured by fear, rumors, and time. As civilization encroaches upon nature, there is less and less to explore. Or so we assume.
As society creeps further and further into the dark corners of the woods, the untouchable expanses of desert, and uninhabitable heights of the mountains and the freezing wastelands north and south of us, society also leaves something behind. As we see trees being cut down to make way for a housing development, we also see entire city blocks abandoned, left to the vagrants and the rats. As we see freeways and bypasses carving straight lines from A to B, we leave behind those dark, winding roads, only to be traversed by the inhabitants, the explorers, and lost.
I have spent many nights with my high-beams on, rounding curves and corners only to find things I could never have expected. When you blow off the thin layer of dust, even the dullest towns have dark, twisted tales to tell. But, just as any machete-swinging Livingston wannabe needs to be prepared, so do you. Finding yourself stranded down a forgotten, uninhabited back road can be as frightening as spending the night in a jungle. You may not have to worry about jaguars, but let’s be honest: Where do you think the serial killers dump the bodies?
For those who wish to explore, I have compiled these 10 tips, to make sure you don’t end up in the river with moths in your throat (or in jail for the night. Mom ain’t gonna bail you out forever). And also: Urban exploration and paranormal investigating are not the same thing. However, they often go hand-in-hand. But paranormal investigation is done with the intention of discovering or debunking ghosts, urban exploration is done with the attempt to uncover unknown, and usually unsavory history.
Stop at a gas station, first and foremost. However much gas you have, it isn’t enough. A full tank should do it, just to be on the safe side. Unless you have been to the area before and know exactly how much you will need, assume the worst will happen. Would you rather make it back home with 3/4 of a tank, or sputter to stop in front of the abandoned farmhouse with no streetlights or neighbors nearby?
Make a drive-thru run to your favorite fast food restaurant. Having something to eat will do wonders. Not only will it make you more relaxed and content, but vanishing your hunger will take care of a major distraction. When you are sitting in your car thinking Dang, I could really go for a cheeseburger, it is very easy to miss that side road to your destination. And that is a great way to take the exit ramp to the straight shot to nowhere.
The vast majority of urban exploration takes place after dark, when we are off work and free to roam in search of history’s lost enigmas. Let’s pretend you ignored 9 and 10. You didn’t fill up, but that is ok because- Damn, you are hungry, you could really use a cheeseburger- you know exactly where you’re going. Cut to an hour later, and you haven’t seen hide nor hair of Turnhere Rd. Oh well, why don’t you just turn around? Hmm, the car seems to be sighing at the tardiness of this suggestion. Wait a minute… it wasn’t sighing, it sputtered and died. But, you brought a flashlight with extra batteries so you aren’t completely screwed. At least you will SEE the serial killer.
This person will be your navigator. You will most likely be driving down windy lanes or derelict neighborhoods, and need to concentrate on where you are going and what is on the road ahead. You never know when a deer or hobo is going to sprint in front of your car. Plus, the extra set of eyes can keep an eye out for turns and hazards, and if one of you gets sleepy, the other can take over driving. Teamwork is awesome.
But isn’t the point of urban exploration to go where you haven’t been before and discover new things? Yes. BUT, a good sense of direction is key. I am very familiar with my county and those surrounding it. If I got lost, I would be able to very easily find a road or town from which I can find my way home. But if I were to drive to another state, I wouldn’t be able to navigate my way to something familiar, as there is nothing familiar. Situations like these are the worst. It is one thing when you can’t find your destination, a whole other thing when you can’t even give up and go home.
Not exactly easy, but it would be wise to steer clear of private property and condemned buildings. Getting carted off to jail would be a major damper on the night. Also, condemned buildings are condemned for a reason. That hole in second story’s floor isn’t an invisible floor for viewing what lies below, it’s a frigging hole. And if you fall through it, going to the hospital followed by jail would be a much bigger damper on the night. Alas, many of the most interesting places are off limits. If not going simply isn’t an option, try to get the owner’s permission. If you must sneak in, go knowing that you do so at your own risk. I personally avoid trespassing, and do not condone it in anyway.
Or at least have a good sense of direction. Maps are good too, but may be outdated and won’t list a lot of smaller or unmarked back roads. A GPS navigation system is a useful product to have, and will alleviate much of your stress for item 3.
Hopefully when you set out, you are very confident in your ability to get to where you want to go. Confidence is good. But, don’t stake all your claims in confidence. Prepare to get lost. This brings us full circle back to item 10. More than enough gas leaves room for error. Eat beforehand, it may be awhile before that opportunity arises again. Look at road names and addresses as you go. Maybe later, you will recognize a road and remember where it leads. Country roads are windy, and will curve in ridiculous ways. When you are lost, you may recognize the road name you saw on the county highway, and can follow it back. Road signs are your bread crumbs. And in city neighborhoods, pay attention to one-way streets and ‘no outlet signs’. This will prevent hassle when trying to navigate the tight corridors, and will make it easier to give that nosy cop the slip.
Many things can go wrong, but at least you can call for help if you need to. Not if your phone dies, sucker. Keep it on the charger long enough to charge it to full battery. Use it sparingly during the trip. Not only is talking and texting while driving dangerous (doubled by it being night time and by being on unfamiliar turf), but this will wear down the battery. You can sacrifice a couple lol’s for that 911 call later.
And keep them on your person, in a tight or deep pocket that they won’t fall out of. The feeling of you stomach dropping out your backside when you realize that you locked your keys in your car is almost as bad as locking your keys in your car. Or if you trip or run, and one set gets lost, you have the other. Come back tomorrow in the daylight, when you actually have a shot at finding them. And remember: On a dark, lonely night, when you are stranded and waiting on help from forever away, the only thing worse than having to wait in your car alone is having to wait outside your car alone.
Document your findings, maybe you have really found something! Urban exploration can be a very fun experience, and documenting the night’s events keep the memories alive for a long time. Then maybe your kids can pile into a car and take off to find their own mysteries.

























November 12th, 2009 at 1:35 am
Number 9 Photo…………here comes dinner again, thats ok im sure it will taste better the second time round.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:36 am
I’m offended by this list. It should be removed.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:38 am
I’m Offended by The_Snowdog he should be removed.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:41 am
this list pretty much sucks, sorry to say.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:47 am
wtf did I just read?
November 12th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Perhaps it should be the list of “Obvious things you would take with you if you went out for an extended period time to a place you dont know”.
Or something to that effect.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:53 am
what a load of crap
November 12th, 2009 at 2:00 am
Excellent – - – but WHERE does one do ones exploring?
November 12th, 2009 at 2:13 am
I can’t imagine anyone actually needing to be told this stuff. All seems pretty obvious.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:31 am
I don’t really get this list.
The mass murdering abortion list was offensive and inaccurate, but at least it made sense.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:39 am
I think the last list, which I ardently hater because of the content, was 100 times better than a list which
1. wasted my time
2. had no useful info
3. was In my opinion, an attempt to lighten the mood after the last list…
BTW are there any mysteries left? Those are great. I am also a school teacher and I am teaching my kids about mysteries so it would be useful (i have used all of the other mysteries already)
November 12th, 2009 at 2:41 am
I would point out that someone waster at least 2 hrs making this dumb list LoL…
My list was never published and although not great, I think it was better than this.
I dont think i will ever make another list again, since i dont want to waste my time for a “chance”
November 12th, 2009 at 2:42 am
wasted*
November 12th, 2009 at 2:45 am
god i hope this exists for some reason we don’t quite get. top 10 examples of internet gullibility?
November 12th, 2009 at 2:46 am
A lot of the fun stuff for me in Urban Exploration comes from exploring places that are off-limits – i.e. old hospitals, TV studios, hotels, schools that have been abandoned (but not condemned!) so I’d disagree with you on the trespassing bit.
On that note, however, you shouldn’t break in – I only enter properties in which I can easily enter/exit without destroying anything (the take only photos, leave only footprints rule definitely should apply to UE). I love UE though so great to see that it got a list in here!
November 12th, 2009 at 2:46 am
Maybe #1 and #2 – should be ‘Have a Library Card’ and ‘Use the Internet’. I can’t imagine rooting around in an abandoned building or vacant lot will tell you a whole lot about a city’s dark and hidden history unless you do some research afterwards – unless it’s “that’s where the hobo explorer-rapists hang out” – but that might be more like current events.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:57 am
Fuckin retarded list. Way to go listverse two screw ups in a row!
November 12th, 2009 at 3:04 am
i still think the abortion list shouldn’t be taken down…
November 12th, 2009 at 3:06 am
hey jfratrer if yo are reandig this cooment please make 2 lists intitulted top 10 best famaly guy episodes and top 10 best office episodes
ps sorry my englsh
November 12th, 2009 at 3:09 am
how about
top 10 tips in becoming a socialite
top 10 ways to gather gossip info
top 10 tips for guys to hang around girls
top 10 tips for girls to hang around guys
November 12th, 2009 at 3:27 am
guys, please stop bitching…JFr has already apologized for the mass murder-abortion-whatever list…this list may not be the best…but still…cut him some slack already
November 12th, 2009 at 3:27 am
wtf this is so hard to understand…WTF?!
November 12th, 2009 at 3:42 am
oh i was thinkin it was about places too explore not bagin or nothin Ian09 well written
November 12th, 2009 at 3:52 am
Why is urban exploration about delving into the darker side? Why can’t we delve into the lighter side?
November 12th, 2009 at 3:56 am
It’s very early in the morning & reading this terrible list is not how I wanted to start the day. I would rather piss razor blades than try to figure out what in the hell I just read. yes, today is gonna be one of those days.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:56 am
I love exploration! I have a blog called Roadside Weirdness that documents some abandonments and oddities. Personally, I can attest to the need for bringing someone with you. There have been several times I have almost fallen through floors. http://roadsideweirdness.blogspot.com/
I would add:
Bring bug spray- Wasps and stinging insects tend to nest in abandoned wooden structures. Also keep your eyes out for critters that may be living inside. I have run across many a possum.
Bring a camera!
Sturdy shoes and work gloves! There will most likely be broken glass and rusty nails, so protect your feet and hands.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:59 am
Note to self: Keep same stuff in car as hurricane evac. equipment. Living in Florida’s already set me up for plenty of exploration when I can’t be home…
November 12th, 2009 at 4:09 am
ZZZZZZZZZ OH, is it over? I kinda nodded off on this one. What was it again? Ten ways to put you to sleep? I mean sheesh, Scare to death with mass killings or this….zzzzzzzzzzzzz
November 12th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Hey ianzy boy well written list..though not as interesting as your previous two.Anyways,looking forward to more of your stuff in the future.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:25 am
not to jump on the band wagon (again) but i have just spent the last hour or so looking at old lists and the quality and time that seems to have gone into them far surpasses lists like this.
there only so many mysteries and conspiracies so i can understand those getting abit thin on the ground, but there are so many different thing that could be researched.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:39 am
this is a cute list, but not everyone is going to want to go urban exploring… and these are basic tips, anyway. what you’d expect. common sense. -sigh-
you’re an urban explorer, you like to get to the nitty gritty… what people don’t know…
this isn’t it.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:42 am
I’m dissapointed, i have always been interested in urban exploration but never knew were to start. I was hopping this list gave me some ideas. It seems you could compress all these tips into one: “come prepared” how about, where to look for area’s too explore, how to explore them etc. i expect an apology tomorrow. Kidding. In the end who am i to judge, its your list not mine.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:10 am
W00h00! TomTom is Dutch!
November 12th, 2009 at 5:44 am
I enjoyed this list Ianz09. Most of us would like to think we would know how to go around our ouwn neighbourhoods, but how many of us have left our phones at home when we go to work, or locked keys in the house? Simple clear advice that you can take as is, or take to the next level if you really want to see the darker side.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Umm,lets see…nice title,good english,great guy… Well the list…,yeah well oh yes..the list(?)
November 12th, 2009 at 6:00 am
I didn’t know if I was going to like this one but as I kept reading it reminded me of my grandfather. He loved doing things like this on a whim. Just get in the car and go and mostly we ended up in unsavory neighborhoods. It was fun.
Thanks for the cool list and the memories, ianz09.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:05 am
I honestly have no idea what this list is about. What I gleaned from it is: Don’t get lost and stay out of trouble when you leave the house.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:08 am
This list is as different as can be from yesterday’s deleted list. By this time, there were no less than 300 comments on it.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Nice list, by the way. Not as good as your previous stuff, but good nonetheless.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Ianz09 ol buddy i thought it was an ok list. Can i add one thing to it? A weapon like mace or a knife or my favorite a glock? Because we do urban exploring too here except i live in the deep country and we always like having a form of defense. Also if you ever drive thru rustic kansas tell me on the comments an ill tell you of some WAY scary places to go here.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:30 am
SUCKS!
November 12th, 2009 at 6:30 am
After yesterday’s contentious list, I think this is a way they are bringing us all together. Much the way a coach becomes a jackass when he is working with a divided team. We now ignore the differences of our past and ackonwledge the common thread we have in that we hate this list.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:29 am
worst list… wth is this even about? playing detective in the city at night?
Jfrater why dont YOU make lists anymore? These all suck…
November 12th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Damn, I just typed this up yesterday. Anyway, thanks to those who liked it, sorry to those who didn’t.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Did anyone else have the initial thought that the guy in the picture for number 8 was holding a lightsaber? I sure as hell did (didn’t read the topic before looking at the picture)
November 12th, 2009 at 7:32 am
@Maximuz04 (12): Half an hour, on a whim. Still got published, and according to you, sucks. Between all 3 of those things, it isn’t much of a case to support your list’s quality. Just saying
November 12th, 2009 at 7:33 am
I got 3 young boys and we often go exploring the country around us- never done it in the dark though. Everything on the list is common sense – and to be honest its not my favourite I have ever read.
That said thanks for the time you spent on it ianz09
November 12th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Jesus H. Christ. Can we all please get our panties out of the giant twist they’re in? Yesterday is done and over with. Move on. We have a new list and a new author and people need to share an opinion on THIS one.
Anyway, I feel like if I did everything the opposite of this list, I’d have a so-bad-it’s-good horror movie.
“OMG I’m out of gas in the middle of nowhere! And my cell phone is dead! And I left my GPS at home! And I happen to be wearing this white tshirt and no bra and will undoubtedly have to swim somewhere later! Ohs Noes!”
November 12th, 2009 at 7:37 am
lol yeah i thought it was a light saber too!
November 12th, 2009 at 7:39 am
@callie19 (48):
Sounds like a Jason movie o.O; Except not only did they have no bra, they had nothing on!
November 12th, 2009 at 7:43 am
@ribenaberry18 (34): You would be surprised how easy it is to forget any one of these things, considering people usually just pile into the car last minute with little to no preparation. I’ve been deterred by not following a lot of these tips, but luckily it never left me up a creek.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Urban Exploration is fun. I would add a Swiss Army knife to the list. It has some basic tools and you can pick a lock with the tweezers and small blade. I have a thing for rooftops. You can see so much from above! And you can explore dangerous dark alleyways from the safety of heights. Cool list!
November 12th, 2009 at 7:45 am
I’m pretty sure there’s an almost identical list to this one on here already…
November 12th, 2009 at 7:48 am
No offense to ianz09 but this list blows. 1, 9, and 10 are just basic things that even a kindergarden kid eating glue knows. 2 and 4 are absolutely not needed. After all people have been exploring shit for years without weak ass GPSs and cell phones. Anyone ever hear of a map? All the other parts are dumb in their own way. Obviously this is a filler list.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Hmm uhmm good list? I think…
November 12th, 2009 at 7:55 am
Take a fair camera, not too expensive and not a great loss if it has to be left behind.
Bring really good support boots and durable leather gloves.
Bring totable food stuffs.
Never go anywhere alone.
Bring sturdy rope and a good flash light.
Bring a defensive weapon, something you are skilled in.
Rest well before entry and never stay longer than you feel safe.
Always let someone who is not going, know where you are going.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Always remember ammo for your nerf gun as you may be required to kill a killer thru means of violent laughter.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:05 am
@General-Jake (57):
!!
In High school we used to bring nerf guns to school and get into fights with them in the Hallway…Needless to say that didn’t end so well.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:21 am
This list sucks ASS! Second STRIKE for you Jamie.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Because of this list, I will be removing ListVerse from my favorites.
It is a clear attempt to make up for the last list that was removed. Controversy is good. Don’t be a wuss!
November 12th, 2009 at 8:26 am
top ten places for urban exploration, perhaps?
November 12th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Yar she blows… Twice in row… listverse jumping the shark are we??
November 12th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Be careful, the thought police may label you a racist, for using the words urban and darkness in the same sentence.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:34 am
@ Renegade01 #58: Yeah we used to bring our nerf guns to school to and mess around with em. Then when i was a 7th grader some yahoo put a needle thru the foam of his projectile and it got stuck in a friend of mines face. Needless to say the school banned nerf guns and the like.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Hi ianz09:
Looking over some of the comments, I’m wondering if it’s possible to edit this list so you can include a few jumps to Urban Explorer sites. In that way, the readers unfamiliar with this topic will see exactly what this is about.
I had never heard of Urban Explorers until I did some googling to find out whatever became of “Heritage USA,” a few years ago. I found it fascinating, for some morbid reason, to look at photos of the abandoned, decaying structures.
There are dozens of sites profiling abandoned missile silos–with the rusting equipment still in place; 1950s bomb shelters, sealed off subway stations; even abandoned amusement parks with trees growing up through the Ferris Wheels and roller coaster rides.
Here’s a good starting place: http://www.graveaddiction.com/abindex.html
November 12th, 2009 at 8:43 am
You forgot two very important tips.
1. Take a pint of cheap whiskey for hobos that have set up camp.
2. Kill the brain and you kill the ghoul.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:45 am
Ya no offense list verse but this was lame. How bout top ten books you should read before you die?
November 12th, 2009 at 8:46 am
The picture for #9 makes me wanna big mac… nom nom nom
November 12th, 2009 at 8:47 am
i liked the list, i hadn’t ever done any real urban exploring before, but i should, i haven’t lived in my city too long yet so it would be a great way to get to know the city
and as for all “this is common sense” comments, how many people really use common sense anymore?
November 12th, 2009 at 8:50 am
@T (66): Hobos can be deadly when provoked. I’d pick a ghoul any day.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:01 am
http://www.abandonedbutnotforgotten.com
November 12th, 2009 at 9:02 am
I’ve been doing this in detroit for years. So many abandoned buildings makes this the perfect spot for this sort of thing
If you’re going to do this in a big city, this list left a very critical items. A weapon, be it pepper spray, a knife or even a big stick. In places like this who knows what you might encounter, any thing from a pack of rabid dogs to a hobo that really likes that camera you’re carrying around. In most of these abandoned spots cops are no where near and have no way of knowing how to find you if something where to happen. Anything goes so prepare for it. If you really can’t bring anything I’ve found most abandoned buildings have peices of wood or exposed pipping that can used, get creative, but get armed
Also bring a good pair of boots, a few of my buddies have had the miss fortune of stepping on rusted nails, and that’s even less fun than it sounds
November 12th, 2009 at 9:05 am
@General-Jake (64):
We did something similar…but with rubber bands, folded piece of paper, and the points broken off of our led pencils. Needless to say that didn’t last long..
November 12th, 2009 at 9:07 am
sorry but not a good list,very basic.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:07 am
I’m OFFENDED by this list!!! It should be removed posthaste, Jafe!! Nah just kidding. I thought it was good stuff, ianz. That fat guy pic’s gonna be the talk of the day.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:11 am
The site that got me started on urban exploration: http://www.forgottenoh.com/page1.html Grave Addiction is very informative. Cemetery and urban exploration go hand in hand
November 12th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Here is one all about abandoned amusement parks: http://sbno.illicitohio.com/menu.html
This one has some awesome photography: http://www.abandonedonline.net/
Sorry for the double post!
November 12th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I didn’t know we could post links. (newb)
This is the best site I’ve found on the subject.
http://www.opacity.us/
November 12th, 2009 at 9:23 am
ianz09 – I have commented on your lists before in the past they were pretty good – this one a – no -no.
Thanks for the effort.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:27 am
@Maximuz04 (12) – Shut up you whiney little prick. If you have some constructive criticism, state it. Don’t give me this “I couldn’t get my lame ass list posted so I’m gonna piss and moan and bitch about yours!” Shit-ball.
@ianz09 – Decent list. Not the best I’ve read here, but decent none-the-less. I do agree w/ Explorers-R-Us (65), some links to UE sites would have been a nice touch.
Peace out!
November 12th, 2009 at 9:59 am
I think most people can agree that this was not one of JF’s best lists, but I think it’s impossible to maintain the same quality level 365 days/year. Besides, having subpar lists once in while makes us appreciate the good ones all the more.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:04 am
@Juan (60): That is the most asinine thing I´ve ever heard (and I all the comments on yesterday´s list… Believe me, there were some doozies there). Deleting a “Favorite” website because it posts a list not specifically catered to your particular interests?
Please LET the door slam your ass on the way out.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:08 am
I loved “urban exploring” when I was younger. It is often good to go on a bike. Also, follow the railroad tracks……I once found a completely abandoned, still fully equipped slaughterhouse with a cool communist-mural on the side. There were hooks and everything. This is San Diego! Alas, I didn’t have a camera!!
November 12th, 2009 at 10:26 am
This article should be aborted, because (as the Big Eared One would say) no one should be “punished with a stupid list”.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:35 am
I had no idea that hatred was so rampantly savage on the Internet. You guys just stay malicious all day don’t you? Go chop down a tree with an ax, you’ll be amazed how much better you feel.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Here’s one of my favorites:
http://www.scoutingny.com/
He/She’s a location scout for films in NY. It’s kind of cool to take notice of things that people are too preoccupied to see the first time around.
For anyone interested in this particular aspect of urban exploring, you should google images of abandoned buildings (would’ve put up some links if it weren’t for moderation issues). There are some amazingly artistic photographs out there.
A while back, I moved halfway across the country even though I didn’t know anyone but my coworkers (who all of whom lived outside the city) and without a car since it was too expensive to park it there. So just taking care of basic essentials (like finding the post office) was a venture in a milder form of urban exploring. I had no idea how to get there (although I vaguely remembered seeing it so I didn’t bother to search online before I left) and no one nearby to help me out, so I simply left my hotel and took a left turn every so often – ONLY left turns – in a concentric circle so I’d cover plenty of ground but not get lost. Roughly 3 miles later, I dejectedly walked back to my place unable to mail my packages, only to find out the post office was across the street from the hotel but to the right. *facepalm*
November 12th, 2009 at 10:42 am
If anyone plans on doing any exploring in the great state of Texas, I would definitely adhere to no. 5 as people here can and will shoot your ass for being on their property.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Renegade01 you ever see the wicked ‘bow and arrow pens’? use scissors to poke a cylindrical hole thru a pen and take out the inky inside (take out ink thingy first) then strap a strong rubberbnd on each end and viola! You have one bad ass pre pubecent means of entertainment.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Am amazed people have so much to say about a list which has nothing in it!!
November 12th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Hey all of you complaining about the quality. Submit a bloody list already!!
November 12th, 2009 at 11:15 am
You forgot beer and a few copies of Hustler
November 12th, 2009 at 11:20 am
worst list ever
November 12th, 2009 at 11:38 am
I’m planning on submitting some lists soon. I have a few in the works but I’m looking for more ideas. Any suggestions?
November 12th, 2009 at 11:48 am
@Spiff17 (93): How about 10 ways to get your wife to put out. I have thought about writing this very list, but I don’t think I’ll ever get around to it.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Cindy: Ha! I like it! There would definitely be a lot of interest. Maybe that one should be written by a member of the fairer sex though? I’m not sure many guys are qualified to write on that subject. I don’t know many experts!
November 12th, 2009 at 11:58 am
I got plenty of ideas for that one, Spiff! You guys would be surprised how much action you would get if you did the dishes once in a while….
November 12th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
@Spiff17 (95): If you are married, ask your wife. I think her answers would probably surprise you!
November 12th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
@callie19 (48): I hope the one thing you do remember to bring is a camera
November 12th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
not a good idea it will be marked as offensive… and it will be taken down…
November 12th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Spiff are you saying guys can’t lay it down right?? Simple clean, give her the plastic (credit card), and cook a meal she will be all over you… as long as you can handle business in the bed well…
November 12th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
This is probably the worst list i have seen.
November 12th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Gus: I don’t think it would need to be offensive. It could be handled with tact. But yeah I suppose it probably is simpler than we men make it. Maybe its because the answer frightens us. The horror of dishes is just too much to think about…
Thanks for the suggestions ladies!
November 12th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
It would be a helpful to note that urban exploration doesn’t just mean Cities but also parts of town you never been before that might have some interesting areas unknown to you. I do this ever couple weeks or so. If you look carefully you can find things you never imagined would be there. One time while following an abandoned railroad I discovered an native american burial ground in my nice little suburban town not very far from a city.
November 12th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
I know that I’m in the minority her, but I really liked this list. Often people will comment “well written” on a list that is acctually very poorly written. Here is someone who can acctually write. I found this list to be witty and fun. I love the phrasing that ianz09 uses and the subtle humor. maybe people need to be hit with a ton of bricks to get the jokes as in some Jim Carey movie?
Take this paragraph: “I have spent many nights with my high-beams on, rounding curves and corners only to find things I could never have expected. When you blow off the thin layer of dust, even the dullest towns have dark, twisted tales to tell. But, just as any machete-swinging Livingston wannabe needs to be prepared, so do you. Finding yourself stranded down a forgotten, uninhabited back road can be as frightening as spending the night in a jungle. You may not have to worry about jaguars, but let’s be honest: Where do you think the serial killers dump the bodies?” This to me defines the term, “well written.”
Or the subtle humor here, “You can sacrifice a couple lol’s for that 911 call later.”
People are harsh, sheesh.
November 12th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
There’s a cool place between Rochester and Syracuse New York in the USA called the Seneca Army Depot. Originally it was an old Army base that has been abandoned. Now it’s a park. It has numerous old abandoned, rusting and deteriorating buildings and runways. It also has a large herd of white deer. They are not albino, but a rare all white deer.
November 12th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Moonbeam: I agree, ianz09 does a great job of writing his lists. The actual points on this one may not be the most enlightening but the writing itself is great.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I do not know what I have just read. Does this list make any sense to anyone?
November 12th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
I think people need to calm the eff down.
Ianz, I thought it was a fun, well-written list. I’m pretty sure no matter what list Jfrater posted, it would have come under fire. It’s pretty hard to follow an act like yesterday’s list!
November 12th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
@Moonbeam (104): AGREED. Thank you.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
@Moonbeam (104): Thanks Moonbeam, I appreciate you saying that, a lot.
And you too Spiff17. I don’t mind if you didn’t exactly like it, but you appreciated my writing and hard work.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
@kashmirj (108): Thanks
November 12th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
@Moonbeam (104): I agree with you: ianz09 has great writing skill. Definitely better than many other contributors to this site.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
ianz09: I actually like the idea behind it. Urban exploration is an awesome idea that I had never really thought about and want to try now! The weak point would be that the actual points seem a little obvious. But that’s ok, you made up for it by keeping the writing interesting and entertaining. This list wasn’t so much about fascinating information as it was about bringing a great pastime to light and starting some good discussion on it. Most of the haters probably didn’t even read it.
November 12th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
this list is super lame……
November 12th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I think this list should have been top urban places to explore… with some sort of accompanying sidebar of out of the way places to adventure to as well.
Like Utah!
November 12th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I wasnt sure of what i was reading! all of this things are obvious!
the introduction was lame!
November 12th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
It is great writing Ian, but I do believe you could have done a bit more research eh?
Cemeteries and Town Halls are great places to start a journey of urban exploration. Town Halls tend to commemorate all the memorable events of an area; it’s great fun going around trying to find out which structures/landmarks etc. are still standing.
For all you folks whining about yesterday – for the last time (please) – the list was removed not because it caused controversy (WE LOVE CONTROVERSY!) but for the way in which it was garnered. No worries, we’ll have another one soon enough that will cause a stir.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
@#82
Jeez! Get a sense of humor! I think this is one of the best sites available!
November 12th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Snooze!
November 12th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
I’m glad that people are backing me up on liking this list. Besides the writing, I even like the list itself. Makes me want to head out and explore. Besides what seems obvious to some, like a full gas tank, extra batteries, and spare car keys are the very things people often forget about, and which get’s them into trouble.
To the people that say they don’t understand the list – did you read the intro? It couldn’t be clearer.
Does a list have to be grim, dark, or extremely controversial in order to garner appreciation? I love reading and participating in the passionate debates on Listverse just as much as anyone. But I also love the ones that inspire action or a fun idea, offer advice, or teach. If you’ve never wandered about hidden or unusual spots in your neck of the world, give it a go. There are so many hidden gems that we fly by every day without realizing what’s there.
ianz09 – thank you for your list, I hope you keep ‘em coming.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Now that you did a list on tips for urban exploration, how a list on best places for urban exploration? Wouldn’t that make more sense?
November 12th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
That’s a very cool list.
I stopped by one of the oldest cemeteries in my town the other day while my daughter and I were talking a walk. The oldest grave was from 1771, and he was a member of Cornwallis’ army. I thought that was just crazy! And none of the other graves went past 1902, I think the last people died from a flu outbreak. It was so sad, there were so many babies buried there.
There was also a grassy hill right outside the stone wall of the cemetery. I got to the bottom with my daughter in the stroller, and there was a plaque on the wall that said “This hill was used as an African American cemetery for many many years.” I felt a little creeped out then LOL. It was so sad, they had wooden gravemarkers but the last ones rotted away in 1940. Most of the people buried there are unknowns.
It was really educational for me. It’s in a really unassuming place, you’d never know it was there from the street. I’m really glad I went in there.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
LOL THIS LIST IS SOOOO LAME.
November 12th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
I agree with Moonbeam; the list was well written and it is the subtle humour that made it enjoyable.
Also has anyone else noticed some comments state that “this list makes no sense” while others have stated “this list is all just common sense” ?
November 12th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
ehem tips on being completely clueless.
1. state obvious facts as something that is completely obscure and mysterious.
2. Mask a fastfood exit from some suburban highway as a interesting get away.
3. be sure to include everyday practices of charging up cell phones and “journeying” to a gas station as something completely out of the ordinary.
4. please don’t take my comment personal. <3
November 12th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Once again, good list Ianz! It wasn’t as good as your others, but it was well-writen. Looking back on the actual list though, I realized it was pretty weak. But it was in no way boring. You managed to make an otherwise sucky list better with your amusing writing style. Keep up the good work!
November 12th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
I’m sorry, but this is the worst list I’ve read on this site so far
November 12th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
@Moonbeam (105):
Been there.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Hey Jamie, when is my list of Top 10 Most Venemous Snakes going to get published? Everyone likes a science list, especially when it has nice descriptions of how the toxins effect the human body. Anyone who wants to see that list, comment below. It took hours to compile, well researched, well written. I’m surprised it hasn’t been published, considering the somewhat dull, yet well written, lists of late. BTW, agree in buying a TomTom, cos Navman sucks. I have one and it’s fucked up twice whilst still under warranty.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Iakhovas: Sounds like a cool list! I’d be into that.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
@Moonbeam (104): I absolutely agree. Ianz09 is obviously a talented writer and I found this to be a rather fun list, and at the very least he can be commended on that.
Thanks to those who added links to the thread; I was very unaware of this sort of activity and a lot of those websites were very helpful in helping me understand the exact nature of urban exploration.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
@Iakhovas (129): Hey Jamie, when is my list of Top 10 Most Venemous Snakes going to get published?
Maybe he was holding it back as a possible contest winner. But since you just showed your hand, you’ve blown your chances. Way to go.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
I’ve never disliked a list on this site until now. This one is so lame it’s almost funny.
Agreed with ants1 “Obvious things you would take with you if you went out for an extended period time to a place you dont know”.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
@General-Jake (88):
I don’t know what’s scarier. The fact that you just told me this little piece of information or the fact that I never figured it out. I also hear college is the best time to do stupid shit, soo…. Now I need a pen, a rubber band, and a few sharp objects. Bwahahaha, History professor beware!
November 12th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
@Randall (128): It seems so cool to me that we’ve both been there. Here we are virtual strangers (sorry about the pun), Listverse regulars, and coincidentally both living in the roughly the same general area. (No, I won’t tell your stalker from that other list.)
I enjoy exploring places like that. Fortunately I also got to see many of the white deer.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
awesomely written ianz09, dont get me wrong, just a poor list… but you write well !
November 12th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Hmm… At first, I was overwhelmed by the constant barrage of this list sucked comments, followed by the it made no sense comments. But as soon as a few people commended me, the general gist of the comments changed. It went from “this list blows” to “you’re a good writer, just a bit weak on the subject matter”.
WHOA!!!! SHIT!!!!
Wow, I apologize, I barely had time to jump out of the way of the bandwagon.
To those who liked it: Thank you a lot.
To those who criticized constructively: Thank you as well for being civil and still expressing your opinion.
To haters: Suck my cock. I have more writing talent in my left nut than you have in your dreams. You wanna hate the list, be fucking guest. But if you want to get under my skin, how about submitting your much better list. Until then, kiss my published ass.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
MAKE
FUN
OF
THE
LOCALS
November 12th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
… I liked the list
*hides*
November 12th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
love to do this stuff, every so often i grab a friend and my goal is to get lost somewhere in town
November 12th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
i like this list.. dont know why every one is showing so much hate
November 12th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Sydney has alot of underground train stations and ammunition storage area’s one right next too the harbour bridge(good place too smoke weed)there’s heaps of old caves and flood water tunnels bunch kids drowned last year there was a guy that had a website bout them he died of lung cancer possibly from low lying radon gas me thinks (big tobacco love this one)
November 12th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
http://www.forbidden-places.net/urban-exploration-australian-underground-drains
November 12th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
@ianz09 (137): To haters: Suck my cock.
You wrote that very well.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
@Maggot (144): Lol… Wait a minute, you’re being a smartass, huh?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
I’m always a fan of http://www.abandonedonline.net!!
November 12th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
@ianz09 (137): I didn’t think you had it in ya!
November 12th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
@Moonbeam (135):
Very cool. The Finger Lakes are beautiful. I never get tired of them.
I have never, sadly, seen the deer. I need to spend more time over there. Haven’t been in a quite a while. But it was a lousy summer, this year.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
I love urban exploration!
I might be biased, since I have been urban exploring before, but I felt like this list could be improved. It sort of lacked substance, and could have been much better (for example, research the place beforehand, wear dark clothes, don’t vandalize, etc. etc.) Anyway, it’s nice to see that people aren’t picking each other apart on this list (because it’s ridiculous JFrater was forced to remove a valid list due to internet pundits).
November 12th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
@flamehorse (147): Well, you know, I figured i could be down in the dumps about it, or just tell people how I feel. Honestly, I have no ill feelings towards people who didn’t like it, I have ill feelings towards those who tore into. If you put your work out there, sooner or later something will be published that will generally be subpar. I really don’t mind CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, it will help me to improve my writing in the long run. But a bunch of douchebags saying “Worst list ever” are a bunch of unhelpful untalented assholes who shouldn’t be allowed to post opinions. I know I’m not a bad writer, but my choice of subject matter was clearly not preferred. Eh, ok, better luck next time. But at least I did the best I could do, and people who acknowledge and appreciate that despite their opinion on the list as a whole are always welcome by me. But those who simply enjoy bashing and insulting really set me off.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
@ianz09 (150):
Admit it – you only posted this list to generate controversy and make it the most talked about list on the site!
November 12th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
@ianz09 (137): HERE HERE!! That definitely brought on the LOLZ haha
November 12th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
@Woyzeck Returns (151): How dare you… Yeah, I did, alright? You got me! I suppose next people are going to bitch about my political agenda to. Sheesh, it’s like people want quality or something. I just wish people would get a brain and realize the only true, verifiable fact in existence: I’m right.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Best…list…EVER!!! This list taught me so much. I mean yo’re going somewhere so buy gas, you’ll be gone awhile so eat food, and then POW “stick to familiar areas” THERE GOES THE DYNAMITE!!!
November 12th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Scabbo: You’re a dick. Nevertheless that was kind of funny.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
is the photo for number 3 meant to be a joke about adobe products?.. wheres photoshop street?
November 12th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
is it me, or are these lists getting dumb and dumber?
November 12th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
@ Ianz. Why are you surprised people didnt like your list? You said you did it in only half an hour. After the deleted list people were probably expecting something grandiose. The timing for this kind of list was not conducive for positive feedback. I took this list for what its worth. Light hearted fun, harmless fluff; I have three lists on this site so far (wrestling, cannibals, comics)so I can appreciate a good honest effort. Dont let this deter you keep the lists coming.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
fluff is right….my pillow….YAWN
November 12th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
@Rolo Tomasi (158): I’m not surprised, but disappointed. Also, I typed it yesterday, and here it was published. But somebody said it earlier, that Pretty much any list published today would catch flak, I was just the unfortunate bastard who did. Not to provide excuses, at the end of the day it wasn’t a great effort, but I am proud of it and wish it would have been received better. But I just submitted another list that took at least 2 hours and a butt ton of research, plus I broke out my best descriptive writing, for the intro especially. Perhaps that one will see publication very soon, and I can be over this bummer.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Ianz09 great list mate. UE is even more challenging on a fixed-gear bicycle, although it allows you to negotiate smaller spaces without having to resort to getting out of a car and go on foot.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
ianz, i always like your approach to lists, but i was expecting stuff like “the best way to access that abandoned and out-of-use steam-tunnel network under your city (and how to make sure it’s really out-of-use to avoid being cooked….).” “ways to hook up with other urban explorers”. or “how to make sure you don’t clash violently with gangs and vagrants who may be hanging out in the abandoned hospital with you”……
this was kinda more like “things to bring when driving around back-roads at night….”
however, someone had to follow yesterday, thanks for biting the bullet friend.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
oh, i forgot: learn to identify any dangerously venomous snakes and spiders (or scorpians if they’re a factor) common in your area before poking around in the abandoned barn/warehouse/etc.
as said before, wear bug spray -and if you’ve been tromping thru tall grasses and weeds do a tick check when you get home.
wear good shoes, like trail/work boots or at least really decent sneakers, you never know what you’ll be walking on. maybe bring leather work/shop gloves as well.
tell someone (a friend will do) where you’re going and who’s going with you, so if you aren’t back by morning someone will know to look for you (in case you did fall through the floor or clash with an angry wino or gangbanger).
share your pictures on an UE or abandoned-places type website, contributing something is a good path to becoming a respected member, and once that happens people may share “secret” access points with you more readily.
keep a personal record, supplemented by photos, of your adventures. this can be a great way to document a place that changed over time if you make many visits.
don’t think you must go at night. if possible it’s actually better to go during the day, at least the first time around (and can still be plenty creepy/interesting, as well as safer). this will let you make a better “mental map” of the structures and grounds of the place so should you ever get into an anxiety-causing situation there you won’t make as many panic-based mistakes…..
November 12th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
@MOOnpie (52):
better than a swiss army knife is a leatherman multi-tool. you should always bring one. i like the “surge” and “core” models.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
and finally -BRING DRINKING WATER- think of this like a day hike, being hydrated is important. also, (at least if you’re a chick) bring some folded up TP in a pocket, you will be peeing in some bushes or something before the night is through……
and on a related point, don’t be drunk.
especially at night. you might run into squatters, other people, or dangerously decayed and physically unsafe buildings, you’ll want to have all your wits fully about you. take some friends and have the drinks when you get home and sit around reviewing your pics and telling stories, it’s more fun, smarter, and safer.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
ugh…. something interesting please
November 12th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
#1 for list that will waste 5 mins of your time? I think so..
November 13th, 2009 at 12:14 am
p.s. to all “i hate this. waste of time. bad list.” peoples:
did you bother to read the comments?
UE is a real and exciting pastime. maybe ianz’s list could have been more adventurous, but unless you’ve never-ever harbored at least a secret desire to see that old “haunted” abandoned building/farm in your neck of the woods for yourself, then STFU!
LV has reached a new level of pointless and un-constructive criticism since yesterday’s “uber-controversial-list”. apparently this blight hasn’t left us yet.
what has happened to us?
November 13th, 2009 at 12:14 am
In other words, get OnStar.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:16 am
ianz09 @ 137: To haters: Suck my cock. I have more writing talent in my left nut than you have in your dreams. You wanna hate the list, be fucking guest. But if you want to get under my skin, how about submitting your much better list. Until then, kiss my published ass.
Your Randall adulation is beginning to show results.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:39 am
hey astraya. hope you’re well.
November 13th, 2009 at 2:16 am
Yup. Due to time zone difference, I’ve just finished the working week.
November 13th, 2009 at 4:00 am
Interesting list, but is there any chance we could have a list detailling what cool stuff has been found on these explorations? I’m far too lazy to actually to this exploring myself, so a “look what I found!” list would be much more fun than a “How to” list :p
November 13th, 2009 at 5:06 am
@ianz09 (137): Thanks for the list. As a fellow LV contributer, I can only offer: be proud of every list and ignore the comments of the unwashed masses.
As is often the case, we can learn from the comments as well, and in that regard, I have to thank @gabi319 (86): for the http://www.scoutingny.com/ link. I’ll be living in the city soon, and this site will be a precious resource.
November 13th, 2009 at 6:37 am
I wish I would have seen this list before my last urban exploration trip. I always forget to stick to familiar areas and never expect to get lost.
November 13th, 2009 at 7:12 am
@ianz09 (137): haha
November 13th, 2009 at 7:45 am
@spritedust (157):
It’s you.
November 13th, 2009 at 7:50 am
@astraya (170): I can’t for the life of me tell if you intended to insult or compliment me. Due to the overall response to this list, I’m assuming insult.
November 13th, 2009 at 8:19 am
@ianz09 (178): is astraya sucking your cock?
November 13th, 2009 at 8:26 am
@Harry (179): wtf?
November 13th, 2009 at 8:34 am
@harry….no woyzeck is! lol
November 13th, 2009 at 8:48 am
I quite liked this list. Why is everyone complaining? Yeah I knew a lot of this already, but so?
November 13th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Guys-
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November 13th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This list might seem stupid or unnecessary, but in the moment, when someone gets that overwhelming, powerful feeling to just get out and explore, people usually do it immediately. And in such circumstances, people will forget things. Good list.
Plus some people just don’t have common sense, and should just stick to sitting in their apartment.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
@stevenh (174):
I hope you have a great time in NYC! A very close friend of mine moved up there for grad school recently and judging by his photos, I’m thinking he’s having fun up there.
Hooray! I’ve been appreciated!
If you’re actually living WITHIN NYC…I hope you’re not claustrophobic, lol. I thought some of the places I’ve lived in were small, but my past habitats are huge compared to what some of my friends have (or had) in New York. But I’m partially jealous, too. You could live in New York all your life and yet everyday still discover something you didn’t realize was always there.
November 13th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
@ianz09 (137): To haters: Suck my cock. I have more writing talent in my left nut than you have in your dreams. You wanna hate the list, be fucking guest. But if you want to get under my skin, how about submitting your much better list. Until then, kiss my published ass.
Such big words for a dude with a nerf gun!
(And just an aside to make sure you know I´m just yanking your chain…)
November 13th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
@GTT (186): At least somebody has a sense of humor over the list. I really didn’t think the general consensus would deem the list so an epic fail, but obviously I was wrong. I’ll be in my hole.
And that isn’t just any nerf gun… It’s radioactive. The perfect weapon. Flamboyant and harmless looking but we’ll see who is laughing when your hair starts falling-
*keels over dead after toting nuclear nerf gun for too long*
November 13th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
@ianz09 : Not your fault. Methinks there just aint that many people into exploration these days.Urban or otherwise.
And if theres anyone here who should be sucking anyones cock its fred guy.)
November 13th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
This is easily one of the worst lists i have ever read on here. I mean seriously…… GRRRRR…..
November 13th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Oh my God. I can’t believe the amount of negative sewage seeping into the comments. I think this list is pretty important because there are people out there who will go bumping in the night in unfamiliar places without at least 7 of the 10 things you mentioned.
Hey people – if you don’t like the list, fine. Don’t have to bite Jamie’s head off. Try writing your own list. See whether it’s not as asinine as your comments.
November 13th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Come Check out http://abandonedcanada.com/forum/
November 13th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
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November 13th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
at this point, it appears ripping on the list has become a meme unto itself, so the smart thing to do is ignore it henceforth…..
keep that in mind ianz.
November 13th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
@Ahmad (190):
your intent was good, but jaime didn’t write this list (ianz09 did). just a public service announcement….
November 13th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
@Tired of Crap (192): I wrote two more lists, both much more well received. Take a look. Also, I am fully aware that you are just a troll trying to get my goat. Nice try, but I looked, and he is still tied to the tree out back. I look forward to your hatred on my next list.
<3 Ian
November 13th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
@lo (193): Lo, I just want to say thanks for coming back here help me out. At this point though, the damage has been done. Your services, though appreciated, are no longer required. I’ll just have to face that by some fluke, I managed to write the worst list on Listverse, or so they say. I’m glad at least one person was willing to defend me, but from here on out it is really just a waste of time. So thanks, but move on and enjoy joetravolta’s sniper list. It was really good.
November 14th, 2009 at 1:08 am
hey ianz! in fact i did earlier comment on joetravolta’s list, and directly to jaime/jfrater as things may be…
but still, people PLEASE stop hating on ianz’s list!
wait.
what’s that?
you can’t control yourselves?
oh. well then…
by the way ianz, you didn’t at all write “the worst list” ever. you wrote a semi-good list (see my suggestions #162-168) and then fell victim to other local LV politics. it appears you are our “bad list” martyr. thank you. thank you for being that, and know that the “hating on you” was not deserved at all. write on friend, give up more lists!
November 14th, 2009 at 10:22 am
This really tells me nothing. Sorry, this list is not any good.
November 14th, 2009 at 10:23 am
You might as well have added:
Make sure you tie your shoes.
Take bathroom breaks.
Don’t talk to stangers.
Enjoy some music.
Check for breast cancer.
Remember your name.
November 14th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
This isn’t the worst list ever. The worst list ever was…umm…..oh, wait…..This reas IS the worst list ever.
November 15th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Hahaha…love it. Damn, a list is a list. I love getting to the comments. Best lists of all.
November 15th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Was this a troll list?
November 16th, 2009 at 12:41 am
203 i’m tired of your bullshit
November 16th, 2009 at 8:22 am
203 Yes Sah!
November 17th, 2009 at 12:06 am
BORING
November 17th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
ianz09, seriously, this is by far the most useless list ever. Its like telling someone the top ten things to bring to the beach, towel, sunscreen, beach ball, etc…
I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
BOGUS!
November 17th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
After skimming all the list items, and the comments, it is to my understanding that the purpose of this list is to offer ten tips on how to explore a place you`ve never been before, for the purpose of finding some horrible story about its past or something that happened there. Or is the purpose there from the start of the exploration?
The idea is interesting, but I still I feel don`t understand it fully. Also if I am right, then these items seem too general/obvious – whatever happened to the discovering the dark side part? I would like to see more detailed tips that only someone with experience would know immediately.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
@Carl (208): Urban exploration is going to places you wouldn’t consider going, like places that are inhabited, but different from what you are used to. Being a suburban kid my whole life, I’ll often branch out to the deep rural areas or the ultra urban settings, because they are different from what I am used to. The history aspect is the main draw. The history that isn’t taught in text books is either dark and disturbing, extremely odd or unusual, or just something that carries no historical significance, but is interesting nonetheless. These places are not well known, not tourist attractions, and many who have no interest in urban exploration may even find them boring. But I have found out that there is usually something interesting to be found. Follow-up research is recommended, if you are truly interested in where you have been.
As far as the tips, yes they are general, but the audience seemed to think they were painfully obvious. Reading them, yes they are, but I am experienced in the field, and can tell you that these extremely obvious tips easily slip your mind at the worst times. Anybody who hasn’t tried it out for themselves will not realize how important these tips are.
And as for more detailed tips, I would love to write the follow-up list to this with much more detailed tips, but considering this one was so poorly received, I doubt it would get published, and if it did, people would just tear into it, if for no other reason than the bias this list earned. I can tell you, though, that if you would like to get into UE, look up old, haunted places near you on the Internet (although paranormal aspects aren’t specific to the UE field, most will find that the most interesting undocumented history stems from these places. Also, it is fun to debunk, or even prove, the myths and to find out what the kernel of truth to the legend was). Old bridges, ghost towns, houses and buildings, underground tunnels and shelters, old cemeteries. Heck, even a drive into the country or to a section of town you haven’t been to can qualify. If you have gas to burn and time to kill, bring a spinner from a board game with you. Spin it at every intersection, and go that direction. You’ll probably hit plenty of dead ends and boring stuff, but eventually you will stumble upon something weird or interesting.
Thanks for the comment, anyway.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:31 am
@ianz09 (209):
i would also enjoy a follow up list, with a few extra “tips” for those of us who venture into slightly-less-law-abiding exploring. -but i think that one needs contain some glaringly “please don’t be stupid” stuff like: don’t trespass -particularly at night- in areas where they shoot trespassers, or during deer season….; don’t try to “get into” the property that you know for a fact has heavy police patrols -especially at night [uhm, i broke this one when i was 17, they let us off with a warning after we were sober, respectful, and showed our real IDs on command] -and really don’t try this within a month either side of halloween stateside; etc. …..
anyway, i support a follow up list muchly
but yeah, i’d love a follow up.
November 19th, 2009 at 12:35 am
and ianz, i don’t think your poor response was related to content as much as it was to timing here in the LV world. just a thought. (and hey i would co-write a follow-up w/you by email if you were interested).
November 19th, 2009 at 8:52 am
@lo (211): (and hey i would co-write a follow-up w/you by email if you were interested).
Actually, that’d be pretty cool. Idk if there is anyway to talk on here in a non-public setting so I can give you my email address, as I would rather not post it on the public comments
November 19th, 2009 at 9:12 am
@ianz09 (212): You an either register for a forum account so you can do private message or get the ok for email address exchange which would go through Frater.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:40 am
@gabi319 (213): Gotcha
November 20th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Lets cut ianz09 some slack guys! Lets face it, I love LV as much as the next procrastinator but isn’t pretty much every list on here a method of wasting time or not engaging in otherwise more productive (and uninteresting) things in life?!! Who can’t honestly say they have spent countless hours on LV reading through reams of information that generally have no bearing or use on ones ability to function in the real world! This is a place to waste time and glean useless facts about interesting subjects! This list acheived exactly this criteria, it may not have been as “exciting” as top 10 evil children, but come on, it was well written, and frankly informative, because I can sure as shit say that I have been caught short on more than one occasion whilst running errands, let alone whilst in an unfamiliar setting! Well written list ianz09! Thanks!
November 20th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
IanZ and Lo…When you are done gobbling eachothers penises, please don’t share your follow-up list with us.
In all seriousness, Jordybear, if a list is not informative, then it at least has to be funny. If it’s not funny, then at least be entertaining in some other way. AND, if it’s not entertaining in some other way, then what is the point of posting it?
November 21st, 2009 at 1:24 am
@ianz09 (212):
well, half of my contribution would be a version of what i added to this list way up above. but UE is very interesting to me. i’ll meet you n the forums if you want to e-chat/email on it for a further list.
and “doobie” dear, how do you know i can’t add a humor element? and how do you know i have a penis? (p.s. i’m a chick).
oh, doobie, you are both an LV newbie and dumb, i pity you…
November 21st, 2009 at 2:55 am
@lo (217): Sounds good, I’ll have to sign up for the forums lol. And hell, I DID add humor, but perhaps since it wasn’t fart jokes, he didn’t get it.
November 21st, 2009 at 7:01 am
@Doobie (216) I appreciate where you’re coming from, however just because you didn’t find the content of the list somehow relatable to you, does not mean that it was not informative; not that I engage in the past time of urban exploration but if I were to do so then this would certainly provide information pertaining to said subject, thus making it informative! You’re being too subjective, just because you don’t have an interest in the list subject does not render it obsolete!
November 21st, 2009 at 8:39 am
Jordybear (219). But the list IS relatable to me. It’s relatable to everything…thats what makes it suck balls. This could easily be a list of things to do when you are going to your cottage, or to a football game. Bring food??!? Bring a Friend!!? Charge your cellphone??? Like someone else pointed out, why not add breath and blink to the list?