We have recently presented two lists of fascinating factlets (a word I am still not entirely convinced is real) but, in light of the popularity of both bizarre lists and fact lists, we have put together this special list of factlets which are from the dark and weird recesses of history and society in general. Be sure to mention your own favorites in the comments.
1. Pareidolia (pictured above) is the psychological phenomenon in which people see shapes or hear sounds which they consider to be significant when they are not (and in some cases, don’t exist at all). The most common example of this is the alleged hearing of phrases when playing records backwards. This is also frequently the cause of so-called miracles in which religious figures appear in toast, or clouds, or stains on every day objects.
2. Gleeking is the odd term used to describe the ejection of saliva from beneath the tongue either accidentally (when yawning, for example) or intentionally (the intentional forcing of saliva from the glands requires much practice). According to Wikipedia, gleeking can be induced by pressing the underside of the tongue against the palate, then pushing the tongue forward while simultaneously closing the lower jaw and moving it slightly forward. Despite practice I seem to fail at this – if anyone manages it let us know.
3. The Hawaiian language requires only twelve letters (and the apostrophe symbol which refers to the glottal stop in words like Hawai’i – this is called the ‘okina.)
4. Believe it or not, it is possible to accidentally plagiarize something. Cryptomnesia is a memory bias in which a person believes they have conceived of a new idea when in fact they are simply remembering someone else’s idea. Sometimes this even finds its way into literature: “Friedrich Nietzsche’s book Thus Spoke Zarathustra includes an almost word for word account of an incident also included in a book published about 1835, half a century before Nietzsche wrote. This is neither considered to be purposeful plagiarism nor pure coincidence. Nietzsche’s sister confirmed that he had indeed read the original account when he was 11 years old.”
5. Clinical lycanthropy is the very rare psychological disorder in which a person believes they have been transformed into an animal. This can result in the person experiencing hallucinations and mimicking the actions of the animal they think they have become.
6. Did you know that santa has a special friend that travels with him? His name is krampus and he beats people with sticks – especially females. He is pictured above. The story of the krampus has been used for centuries to frighten children into behaving before Christmas.
7. A surprisingly large number of people believe in the Ancient Astronaut theory in which aliens are said to have come to earth in pre-history and given man knowledge (or, in some cases, to have bred with man to give us intelligence). Some proponents of the theory believe that all major religions on earth were started by these visiting space-creatures.
8. Mary Toft was an English woman from Godalming, Surrey, who in 1726 became the subject of considerable controversy when she tricked doctors into believing that she had given birth to rabbits. According to contemporary reports, “[Male midwife John Howard] delivered “three legs of a Cat of a Tabby Colour, and one leg of a Rabbet: the guts were as a Cat’s and in them were three pieces of the Back-Bone of an Eel … The cat’s feet supposed were formed in her imagination from a cat she was fond of that slept on the bed at night.” Later Toft seemingly became ill again, and during the next few days delivered more pieces of rabbit.” Her deception was eventually uncovered and both she and the medical profession were ridiculed.
9. Hyperthymesia is a condition (known to exist in only four humans so far) in which a person retains an almost perfect memory of everything they have experienced. A hyperthymestic person can be asked a date, and describe the events that occurred that day, what the weather was like, and many seemingly trivial details that most people would not be able to recall.
10. Intrusive R and Linking R are pronunciations of the letter ‘r’ in English dialects that don’t generally pronounce a final ‘R’ (such as New Zealand English). For example, in these dialects, when saying “don’t go far” – the word “far” has a silent ‘r’ – but the ‘r’ is pronounced in the sentence “he is far away”. This linking ‘r’ smooths out the phrase. Intrusive ‘r’ is when an ‘r’ is added where one doesn’t exist at all – as in the case of “Africa or England” – this would be pronounced “Africar-or-England”.
11. Zebroids are hybrid animals involving a zebra and either a donkey or a horse. Zebroids physically resemble their non-zebra parent, but are striped like a zebra. The stripes generally do not cover the whole body, and might be confined to the legs or spread onto parts of the body or neck. Depending on the hybrid, they take different names such as zorse, zonkey, zebrass, zedonk (pictured above), etc.
12. Crikey steveirwini (an air-breathing land snail) is the only species in the genus Crikey. The specific name steveirwini is in memory of wildlife expert Steve Irwin. The genus name is a favorite exclamation of Steve Irwin’s, “crikey!” being an Australian minced oath.
13. Shingō village (Japan) claims to be the last resting-place of Jesus, buried in the “Tomb of Jesus.” According to the local lore, Jesus traveled to Japan at the age of 21, where he studied theology for 12 years, after which he returned to Judea at the age of 34. He did not die on the cross at Golgotha. Instead his brother, Isukiri, took his place on the cross, while Jesus fled across Siberia, Alaska, and finally to Mutsu Province, in northern Japan, where he became a rice farmer, married, and raised a family near what is now Shing ō.
14. The Swedish Empire (which included Finland at the time) planned to change from the Julian calendar to the Gregorian calendar beginning in 1700 by omitting leap days for the next 40 years. Although the leap day was omitted in February 1700, the Great Northern War began later that year, diverting the attention of the Swedes from their calendar so they did not omit leap days on the next two occasions, causing 1704 and 1708 to remain leap years. To avoid confusion and further mistakes, the Julian calendar was restored when, in 1712, one extra leap day was added, thus giving that year a 30th of February.
15. For our final entry we have a sentence – but it is a special sentence. Most people are familiar with the famous “buffalo buffalo buffalo….” sentence – but here is another one: “James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher” – this is a completely legitimate English sentence. My challenge to you is to put in the correct punctuation to make it understandable. I also challenge you to not look it up!
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1 donald
December 9th, 2009 at 1:34 am
lmao. I actually am known in my circle of friends for being able to gleak consistently enough to wet a quarter of a whole newspaper
2 donald
December 9th, 2009 at 1:36 am
I accidnetly plagiarized once. caught by my prof and he told me where he saw this idea. and asked if I watched the movie. and I thought about it, and I did watch the movie. it was “finding forrester” with sean connery. wrote a poem about “losing family” and he thought it sounded familiar…
3 rose_x
December 9th, 2009 at 1:37 am
interesting list
4 dbrownl
December 9th, 2009 at 1:41 am
more reason to fear a fat man breaking into your residence and eating your cookies, thanks, it is way to late to even begin thinking abut the had sentance, what was the buffalo sentance???
5 gabi319
December 9th, 2009 at 1:41 am
#7 (or, in some cases, to have bred with man to give us intelligence)
The Red-Head Alien Conspiracy Theory!
#8:
Oddly enough, I was just reading about this earlier today,
6 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 1:43 am
@donald (1): That is quite an achievement – even if it is somewhat a bizarre thing to admit to
7 Jack
December 9th, 2009 at 1:44 am
Here’s another “factlet” about zebras; they have on average about 150 stripes at adulthood, less when they are young, and contrary to popular belief, a zebra is black/brown with WHITE stripes, not the other way round!
8 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 1:44 am
Incidentally all – I just thought I would share the exciting news with you: our publisher wants to do a second book because the first one is selling so well! Exciting! It is probable that the next one will focus more on bizarre topics or mythbusting.
9 Charlotte
December 9th, 2009 at 1:44 am
Sweet list
10 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 1:46 am
@dbrownl (4): It is in the link – but for your convenience I will show you:
“Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.”
This is a grammatically correct sentence. Conveniently broken down thus:
[Those] (Buffalo buffalo) [whom] (Buffalo buffalo) buffalo, buffalo (Buffalo buffalo).
[Those] buffalo(es) from Buffalo [that are intimidated by] buffalo(es) from Buffalo intimidate buffalo(es) from Buffalo.
Bison from Buffalo, New York, who are intimidated by other bison in their community also happen to intimidate other bison in their community.
THE buffalo FROM Buffalo WHO ARE buffaloed BY buffalo FROM Buffalo ALSO buffalo THE buffalo FROM Buffalo.
11 BravehisTickle
December 9th, 2009 at 1:46 am
@jfrater (8): Great list man! and congrats on yer book sales.
12 gabi319
December 9th, 2009 at 1:47 am
My challenge to you is to put in the correct punctuation to make it understandable.
*^@(%*& James while &^(@#& John had…… a better @#)$*@) effect on the &#$&(@)!# teacher.
Am I close?!
13 Phender_Bender
December 9th, 2009 at 1:47 am
I looked #15 up, it still doesn’t make sense to me…
14 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 1:47 am
Oh – I forgot to say that it works because Buffalo is a place name, the name of an animal, and a verb (to buffalo means to intimidate) – hence buffalos that live in Buffalo, are sometimes buffaloed by other buffaloes that live in Buffalo.
15 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 1:50 am
@Phender_Bender (13): I will give you a hint: pluperfect is involved.
16 Mav22
December 9th, 2009 at 1:50 am
Haha I have Gleeked a couple of times.
But just as an accident.
Usually while talking to a friend and then yawning.
Usually get the, “hey you spit on me”
17 BravehisTickle
December 9th, 2009 at 1:52 am
A horror movie should be made concerning #6 Has any been made yet that I’m missing out on?
18 El the erf
December 9th, 2009 at 1:55 am
Whoa…I often see faces on walls. I hope I am not suffering from Pariedolia. Btw, its not a disease ,is it?
19 dbrownl
December 9th, 2009 at 1:59 am
@jfrater (10): thanks that is cool and confusing all at once, but i think i get it, congrats on the book deal
20 egernunge
December 9th, 2009 at 2:04 am
“James, while John had had “had”, had had “had had”, “had had” had had a better effect on the teacher”.
Right?
21 BravehisTickle
December 9th, 2009 at 2:04 am
I’v read many interesting stories related to lycanthropy,particularly concerning ‘werewolves’.
22 K-Dog
December 9th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Here is the answer to #15:
James, while John had had “had”, had had “had had”; “had had” had had a better effect on the teacher
Basically, it means that it was upon them that while John had used “had”, James had “had had.” The teacher preffered the use of “had had.”
Also, that picture of Krampus is creepy!
23 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 2:07 am
@Jack (7): That is fascinating – thanks for mentioning it!
24 K-Dog
December 9th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Woops,
when I posted, somebody beat me to it!
I wish I had had had had had had had posted earlier (LOL)!
25 Calliope
December 9th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Hi all, longtime lurker/reader. LOVE it here.
I think “ancient astronauts” (number 7) is interesting in that many books and websites refer to ancient hieroglyphics in Mayan and Egyptian pyramids depicting UFO’s, aliens, etc. Some of the pictures presented are indeed strange.
Does anyone know if these hieroglyphics have been discredited in some way, or if scientists/archaeologists/anthropologists have come up with a more logical explanation?
Oh, and Krampus was interesting, too, LOL. I will definitely have to read up more on him.
26 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 2:08 am
@BravehisTickle (11): Thanks
I am really pleased with the sales so far – we have been consistently in the publisher’s top 5 books since we were published.
27 The boy from troy
December 9th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Maan,I wish I was a ‘hyperthymesiac’- my knowledge quo grows day after day-thanks LVJF
28 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 2:09 am
@El the erf (18): I think it is only a disease when you consider the images to be divine or real – we all see images in the clouds – that is normal
29 Si Si
December 9th, 2009 at 2:10 am
This list was not disappointing, but as so you don’t forget JFrater might I remind you of the “Faces of Death” list you were contemplating quite some time ago? I like the scary ones.
30 The boy from troy
December 9th, 2009 at 2:11 am
@jfrater (26): Oh yes, one important question-i haven’t seen the LV book in any Indian market so far,I live in India (Delhi) n I don’t wanna purchase it over the net.Can you update me on the matter?
31 Jody
December 9th, 2009 at 2:12 am
@El the erf (18): No, it’s not a disease. Our brain has the capacity to see whatever it wants wherever it wants whenever it wants, its just how much you are willing to look into it. I often can make out faces in trees and see words in the clouds, but i don’t think anything of it. If you try hard enough you can see whatever you want anywhere
32 K-Dog
December 9th, 2009 at 2:12 am
About Pareidolia (#1), it turns out that the human brain actually morphs images (so to say) so that they make sense to the brain. This explains the faces on mars, which if you look up close with sattelites it just looks like rocks! So, it’s all a visual trick!
33 Unicorn Farts
December 9th, 2009 at 2:16 am
James, while John had had “had,” had had “had had,” “had had” had had a better effect on the teacher,
@jfrater: the pluperfect hint gave it away for me
i love punctuation. (too nerdy?)
34 BravehisTickle
December 9th, 2009 at 2:18 am
@Si Si (29): That was supposed to be published during Halloween..I hope Jf didn mean Halloween 2010
35 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 2:22 am
@The boy from troy (30): As far as I know the distributors are planning to do worldwide distribution – I have no idea of the timeframe. It has not appeared in any New Zealand bookstores yet either (much to my annoyance!)
36 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 2:24 am
@egernunge (20): You are first and you are right
And congrats to others who got it as well. Now – someone tell me what you call the phrase “had have” – I can’t find a proper name for it anywhere! Here is an example: “If I had have found my wallet, I wouldn’t have needed to cancel my credit card”.
37 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 2:25 am
@Calliope (25): I know the images you are talking about. I just put them down to imagination – the ancients were able to draw fiction as well as man wrote it (after transitioning from pictographs to written language).
38 jfrater
December 9th, 2009 at 2:26 am
@Si Si (29): That is a list that will take some time to put together – I need time off between items when dealing with horrific subjects
39 The boy from troy
December 9th, 2009 at 2:27 am
@jfrater (35): Then I guess I’ll have to wait..n I hope not so long that the 2nd book is by then ready for publishing!
40 Taash
December 9th, 2009 at 2:27 am
Is number 6 a FACT? Cool list tho JFrater! Oh and I bought the BOOK about a week!!!
41 Taash
December 9th, 2009 at 2:27 am
Is number 6 a FACT? Cool list tho JFrater! Oh and I bought the BOOK about a week ago!!!
42 pjII
December 9th, 2009 at 2:29 am
I’ve been able to gleek for quite a while now… It’s rather simple… Requires a bit of practice though… Started off as a kid, because I saw somebody else do it and I thought that was a really cool thing to do then…
And now I’m convinced there’s a word for everything in English!!….
43 Taash
December 9th, 2009 at 2:29 am
Sh*t… the lat one is hurting my head… I cnt think what it is
44 InvisibleEchidna
December 9th, 2009 at 2:33 am
Gleeking is something I’ve known about since I was a kid… don’t know why. I can do it. Quick little spray. Nice little trick if you’re really bored or something, I guess.
45 Jack
December 9th, 2009 at 2:51 am
@jfrater (23): No probs dude, quick question, is it just yourself who can do the factoids list? I have loads myself that I’d love to share… I’ve reading this site for over a year, and always wanted to make a list :$
46 Jack
December 9th, 2009 at 2:56 am
@Jack (45): Aha, I see someone else has done one, right then, I’m going to start researching tonight!!
47 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 3:11 am
@Calliope (25): hmm its curios that maybe the images in the hieroglyphics may be a case of pareidolia:p. Atleast thats what i think. We see what we want to see
<- here's one. Its easier to adapt if we see familiar shapes. Maybe someone with better notions of biology coumd explain it better.
@K-Dog (32):I think its more than a visual trick. I think evolution favoured this so we have a better communication with other members of our species. I see faces in a lot of places
@El the erf (18):You are sick erf. Sick, sick,sick. You disgust me. You are eeevil
ps jfrater congratz on your book
48 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 3:16 am
I read somewhere that pareidolia is one of those leftover evolutionary things – like when you twitch yourself awake. Apparently it helped our ancestors to recognise faces quicker. That way they could recognise if an animal was one of their own species or a predator.
I find it very difficult to believe the ancient astronaut theory. Why is there no evidence in the archaeological record apart from the pictographs/hieroglyphics? Also, could that not be a case of pareidolia on the part of those interpreting? Why would aliens come to earth thousands of years ago, impart all this wonderful knowledge and technologies upon us and then never come back again?
Makes no sense to me!!
49 Jojo
December 9th, 2009 at 3:22 am
@Jfrater (36): I think the word “have” is superfluous in your example. “If I had found my wallet, I wouldn’t have needed to cancel my credit card” makes sense without having to use the awkward “had have”. Same thing as using the words “off of” (eg, I took the book off of the bookshelf”.
50 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 3:29 am
@Firefly (48): we essentially said the same thing:))). This is uncanny. Im in a class of measure theory. I like chocolate icecream and i enjoy long walks on the beach. I also favour formula 1 football(soccer if ur american) snooker and curling. What about you??
51 Blakaize
December 9th, 2009 at 3:33 am
I can gleek, or, at least, I could. Dunno if I can still do it.
Lemme go check
….
yup! still can!
52 Polymath
December 9th, 2009 at 3:36 am
Did not know there was a “Crikey steveirwini ” But hell, I am not surprised. Hahaha..nice.
53 Jojo
December 9th, 2009 at 3:36 am
I’ve wondered what the word was to describe the occurence listed at #2 – now I know, “gleeking”! From feeding her in infancy with a spoon I noticed my daughter sometimes spurted out two sprays of saliva when eating and it still happens when she is about to eat. I thought it was similar to when your mouth waters when you’re hungry. I’ve just mentioned the word to her father who said he “gleeks” occasionallys and she must have inherited it from him … which is an interesting theory seeing she was adopted into our family!
#6 is a perfect example of why our family does not “do” Santa Claus. If we told them Santa was real then we’d have to tell them about krampus too and who’d want to do that!
54 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 3:38 am
@Arsnl (50): so we did, but your comment hadn’t come up when I was typing mine. YOu had me at ice cream and walks on the beach……but I don’t like sport! And I’ve tried, I really have!
55 Joanne
December 9th, 2009 at 3:47 am
2) I discovered that I could “gleek” when I was in 4th grade, and I’ve been doing it ever since! My classmates were really freaked out whenever I did it, they didn’t even know how it’s called haha
7) I think that’s so unfair for our ancestors – they were as intellectually and emotionally capable as we are today, being “modern humans”
10) Ahhh so that’s why I always hear “Obama” pronounced like “Obomber” on the BBC, as if “Obama bin Laden” weren’t bad enough
12) LOL Steve Irwin would be proud
15) WTF?
56 Jack
December 9th, 2009 at 3:47 am
@Jojo (49): No, it’s easier to say if you contract “I had”, e.g. “If I’d have found my wallet…”
I think it’s perfect passive.
57 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 3:48 am
@Firefly (54): We can work the sports thing out. Its no biggie. But if you dont like math you’re dead to me:)))
58 Joanne
December 9th, 2009 at 3:55 am
Let me add #’s 16 and 17(sorry too lazy to compile a list
):
16) Kinshasa and Brazzaville are the only 2 national capitals within sight of each other (they’re on opposite banks of the congo river)
17) France shares its longest land border not with Germany, Spain, nor Italy, but with Brazil because of French Guiana has been a French “overseas department” since the late 18th century
59 Jack
December 9th, 2009 at 3:58 am
@Jack (56): No, it’s not passive… maybe it’s perfect conditional. Bloody grammar.
60 The boy from troy
December 9th, 2009 at 4:01 am
Regarding #7,how large? Thousands? Millions?
61 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 4:09 am
@Joanne (58): well you also have vatican and rome:p
62 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 4:11 am
@ Arsnl (57): Oh I like math, problem is math doesn’t like me. I’m not sure what I’ve done to offend it.
63 Joanne
December 9th, 2009 at 4:15 am
@Arsnl (61): oh yes besides the holy see in the vatican which is completely surrounded by rome thanks
64 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 4:28 am
@Joanne (63): and about the france fact. You forgot about the whole dom tom. Thats part of france too so you forgot about the land in antarctica. Geesh i should know this. But they are soo many. So the largest border is with… Australia
@Firefly (62): well thats good. Thats a good basis. Tell me more about you:)))
65 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 4:42 am
@ Arsnl (64): right now I’m listening to Gogol Bordello and I have a little robot on top of my monitor. I think he has a name but I’ve forgotten it.
66 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 4:48 am
@Firefly (65): dude gogol bordello. I lov those ukrainians.
)) madagaskar was a great song from them:))start wearing purple:))
67 astraya
December 9th, 2009 at 4:49 am
@jfrater: “factlets (a word I am still not entirely convinced is real)”
Last time around both lo and I told you that this was the correct word. Do you doubt us? Do you doubt US????
Item 6: The version of the Saint Nicholas story in book I had a child was that his companion was called Black Peter, and he carried switches for badly-behaved children. Of course I didn’t know what a switch was.
Item 12: Steve Irwin loved crocodiles but he had a soft spot in his heart for sting-rays.
Item 15: I have never encountered the word “buffalo” used as a verb. I have rarely encountered most of the words that crop up in “language trivia”.
Constructions like “had had” are very difficult to explain to learners of English as a second language.
The “had” sentence cheats a bit, using the various “had”s in the same way. A sentence can be made using 5 “had”s with a different meaning each time and not requiring punctuation.
The child the parents had had had had had no breakfast. (Wordplay: A Curious Dictionary of Language Oddities, Chris Cole)
I would quibble as to whether the Vatican can strictly be called “a national capital”.
I would say “If I’d found my wallet”, which is past perfect. “If I’d have found my wallet” is usually described as “an Americanism” in most of the grammar books I have read. (That could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your point of view!)
68 astraya
December 9th, 2009 at 4:52 am
Claims on Antarctica are not recognised by international law. The French and Australian (and any other) territories there are not considered as part of the country.
69 K-Dog
December 9th, 2009 at 4:53 am
@arsnl (47)
Well, I did some research in my big book of science and this is what it has to say:
“The process of the eye observing an unfamilliar object can be rather daunting to the brain. The brain likes to make pattern arrangements specific to the person whom sees it. Unfamilliar objects just don’t like to be a big pile of nothing to the brain, so it changes the structure of the object a bit so it will become more simillar to the person. However, in our busy lives, us humans have developed intelligence beyond the prospects of what evolution intended. So, humans still carry this trait, but what purpose did it actually serve us? Maybe it was so we would remember data that would otherwise be forgotten, or maybe it’s just the brains way of not being 100% accurate. Either way, it is a remnant of our past evolutionary history, and it stands as proof for Darwinism.”
Also, I think it would be a great idea to make a second list about evolution, jfrater!
70 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 4:55 am
@ Arsnl (66): Yeah they’re mad, I saw them play last December. It was the last gig in the Ambassador theatre. I also like cats.
71 Gracenam
December 9th, 2009 at 5:01 am
at the second one!
Whenever I pulled the tip of my tongue back using the roof of my mouth~ saliva would spray from my mouth lol
I always thought it was strange and wondered if I was the only one who could do that haha
yeah sounds disgusting..
can’t do it too often~ kinda like cracking knuckles.. you have to wait a bit before you can do it again haha
but anyways try that haha
72 El the erf
December 9th, 2009 at 5:01 am
Krampus is one of Santa’s reindeer, isn’t he?? (even though it looks as if he’s got goat horns.
Chee.Its sad to get to know Mr.Santa carries a Mr.Hyde with him.
I wonder how much percent of the brain do the hyperthymesiac people use.
An interesting addition to this list would be (i dunno…might be its been mentioned in some previous list)
the condition of Kleptomania where the kleptomaniacs have an irresistible impulse to steal in the absence of any economic motive
@Arsnl (47):
Why you brazen hypocritical creep…after all the support I gave you for your preposterous campaign…
73 widggman
December 9th, 2009 at 5:18 am
unfortunate comment, and I know it’s not the place. But for a while now, when I load a list (specially the daily one), once the page is loaded, i’m redirected to another website.
is is possible to remove that, it’s annoying!!
74 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 5:30 am
@El the erf (72): Im no hypocrit i just go with the masses. Cant blaim a man for being for being a kiss-up to who ever is the big boss, can you?? Randall has the money, the connections, the power, the chicks. Im sorry dude i had to let you go
@Firefly (70): i missed them twice when they were playing in paris and i also missed twice bregovic. Very frustrating. I just discovered that i like savannah cats but im a long fan of german shepherds.
I burst in laughter when i saw ur gogol bordello comment and my prof started looking strange at me kinda like “since when quotient spaces are so funny?? He’s nuts”
75 jeslynn6
December 9th, 2009 at 5:36 am
What cultures scare kids with Krampus? I’ve never heard of him as an American. And gleeking – when I was in highschool a lot of the boys would do it and we did actually call it gleeking. I thought it was just common knowledge lol. Stupid highschool boys thinking it was funny to gleek on everyone lol
76 diddy
December 9th, 2009 at 5:38 am
One of my best friends is really good at gleeking. He could gleek across our living room and he has excellent aim.
77 fazool
December 9th, 2009 at 5:38 am
10. Intrusive R and Linking R are pronunciations of the letter ‘r’ in English dialects that don’t generally pronounce a final ‘R’ (such as New Zealand English). For example, in these dialects, when saying “don’t go far” – the word “far” has a silent ‘r’ – but the ‘r’ is pronounced in the sentence “he is far away”. This linking ‘r’ smooths out the phrase. Intrusive ‘r’ is when an ‘r’ is added where one doesn’t exist at all – as in the case of “Africa or England” – this would be pronounced “Africar-or-England”.
I Do not understand this…I said the 2 phrases and they sounded the same to me
78 oouchan
December 9th, 2009 at 5:40 am
I learned a few things today and can’t wait to use them at the next family get together. I espeically liked that seeing images in things or objects has a name. That was neat.
@jfrater (8): That’s cool! I will get that book as well.
79 katary
December 9th, 2009 at 5:47 am
does the r thing usually happen with ts? being a kiwi with a thick nz accent, i find it annoying when i have to introduce myself and people think im saying ka, or kap. seriously, who would name their kids those ridiculous names? im obviously saying kat. its seriously annoying.
80 Don
December 9th, 2009 at 5:49 am
lol… I gleek all the time. It’s easy
81 ronsantohof
December 9th, 2009 at 6:24 am
We have a lot of #10 intrusive R in Kansas where we warsh our hands and have no idear what the people in Boston are saying.
Also, Astraya! That was bad.
82 ronsantohof
December 9th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Although I did laugh, Astraya.
83 anuragv
December 9th, 2009 at 6:27 am
Same issue as #(30). Live in India but not seeing your book anywhere and thanks to postal services in India, don’t wanna buy off Amazon or any other online store.
84 nyota0uhura
December 9th, 2009 at 6:31 am
You should have been more specific with the krampus faclet. Krampus is the Bavarian/southern German term for the helper of Nikolaus, NOT Santa. Nikolaus visits on the 6th of December in German-speaking countries and reads from his golden book the naughty and nice things the children have done. If they’ve been nice enough, they get presents from his burlap sack. Krampus is his companion, a Rumpelstiltskin-like man, who is used to scare children and said to beat the naughty ones or even stick him in his own burlap sack and take them away (depending on the region). Furthermore, Krampus is not called Krampus in all German-speaking countries. In Switzerland he is called Schmutzli, in northern Germany he tends to be called Knecht Ruprecht for example. And again, he is the Nikolaus’ companion. Santa is the “Weichnachtsmann”, the Christmas Man, literally translated. They are two different people, the biggest difference being that Nikolaus was actually a real man, a bishop who was sainted at some point.
85 Steph
December 9th, 2009 at 6:36 am
i think this is the first time after reading a list that my brian actually hurt!
86 gisman
December 9th, 2009 at 6:41 am
I’m gleeking when I’m at the dentist office because I’m having to keep my mouth open for so long.
87 WiseMenSay
December 9th, 2009 at 6:42 am
urgh, that picture is JUST what i needed after seeing paranormal activity…
88 Scottiboy
December 9th, 2009 at 6:57 am
How the hell is #6 considered a fact?
89 Steve
December 9th, 2009 at 7:16 am
James, while John had had “had”, had had “had had”;
“had had” had had a better effect on the teacher.
90 MouseintheHouseMI
December 9th, 2009 at 7:17 am
@Scottiboy (88): It’s considered fact because Santa is real! Everyone knows that!
Actually, I’m sure #6 is referring to the Santa story, whereas in one or more of the many versions of the story, Krampus is mentioned. I’ve never heard of Krampus and will have to look it up. That’s crazy.
Factlet: If you take the name Santa, move the “n” to the back, you end up with SATAN!!!!
91 b
December 9th, 2009 at 7:19 am
“I’d have…” is “I would have”
“had have” is completely wrong. you need to use past tense after “had” – hence “had had”
92 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 7:19 am
@ Arsnl (74): They were amazing, I’m going to see the Dirty Three tonight, slightly different but amazing nonetheless. Did I get you in trouble with your professor? And we’re probably not even in the same country hehehehe!
93 Davy
December 9th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Great list Jamie. For some weird reason, I laughed when I read ‘zebrass’.
94 IvoryRose
December 9th, 2009 at 7:24 am
I can do the whole gleeking thing! ^_^
95 archangel
December 9th, 2009 at 7:34 am
damn it! Trying to gleek has overstimulated my saliva gland… and that picture of that freak who runs off with Santa is creeeeePPAAAY!
And that sentence is just fascinating!!
96 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 7:35 am
@Firefly (92): nope i dont think we are. He is a bit of a jerk. He’s the only prof in all the uni that gets mad if you’re late. I wonder if what we think are coincidences or os it a case of pareidolia?? It reminds me of this gay movie i watched once but the only thing i remember is a guy telling a chick while sitting on a lawn under the stars “you know maybe there is a planet just like ours and someone is just like me and you and now they are looking at the stars and wondering if there is some just like them”. I was probably 10 but i still thought dude thats soo gay. But imagine how strange it would be to meet someone that looks like you…freaky….
97 Taylor
December 9th, 2009 at 7:41 am
I just watched an excellent documentary about #7, it’s called “Secret Space 2″. It’s 2 hours long and split in 4 parts on Google Video. Some of the stuff seemed far fetched, but they have pretty good evidence for all of their claims and I am pretty convinced aliens have visited earth sometime in our past. I highly recommend it.
98 Forsythia
December 9th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Hey, #10…I am from Boston, that is the way we talk
99 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 7:50 am
@Arsnl (96): I’m in Ireland, where are you? That sounds like a super gay film! It’s not uncommon for people on opposite sides of the world to come up with the same theory or invention. I’m currently teaching archaeology and sometimes when I’m researching a topic I’ll come up with my own theories on something only to find them already in a book or an article.
100 Young Money
December 9th, 2009 at 7:55 am
I can gleek.
101 Brain-Buster
December 9th, 2009 at 8:05 am
I love busting brains!
102 thraxou
December 9th, 2009 at 8:09 am
The number 11 really looks like a Quagga.
103 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 8:17 am
@Firefly (99): I live in paris. i think it has something to do with how society as a whole is evolving. And scientific communities are very related. You have the theory of relativity for example. French will always argue with you that well poincare was about to make the same discoveries as einstein. I like to think that its like an idea floating in the air. Someone makes a small breakthrough( as in this case maxwell with his equations), he gives some clues but you need anothe brilliant person to take that to another level-to see the big picture.
Also, Im not at a level to create theories, but im impressed how an educational system can create minds that sometimes think the same. I see this at my university all the time. Maybe its a loss and maybe its a gain. I really dont know
Ps: 1)maybe you read that article when you were 11 and somehow you remembered it( im just being a jerk:)))
2) well now its good that you dont watch football
104 Scratch
December 9th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Regarding number 6, the Dutch have Zwarte Piet (Black Peter), who takes naughty children away in his sack to Spain.
I remember one of my friends almost crying when Zwarte Piet came by with his sack and pretended to get ready to stuff him in. Of course, this tradition of people dressing up in blackface doesn’t carry over so well these days. When Zwarte Piet showed up for a Dutch group at a community hall at the same time as a group of Ghanaians it was a wee bit tense.
Thinking back, I wouldn’t have minded being taken to Spain, though.
105 MommaDuck
December 9th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Was missing the JFrater lists. Thanks!
106 cdwmusic34
December 9th, 2009 at 8:32 am
The sole reason I spent a few days learning how to gleek was because some moron in my 6th grade english class knew how to and I wanted to get him back. It worked.
I do recommend not practicing in bed like I did. The first time I did it, it landed back in my face.
107 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 8:35 am
@Calliope (25):
This is weird… “Randall” answering “Calliope.” If this was thirteen years ago, and another website… but then if you were THAT “Calliope,” you’d know me, and there would be certain “secret signs” that would reveal each of us to the other…
AH well… sorry for the digression.
Anyway, Calliope… yes, the images you refer to have been explained by archeologists. In fact, they were explained all along; the ancient astronaut nuts simply wouldn’t accept the explanations.
It isn’t that it’s not possible that aliens have visited the earth. It IS possible. But these carved images are NOT proof of that. Not by a long shot. Moreover, the belief in ancient astronauts is always *first* based on the premise that our ancestors could NOT have built the great works they’re known for on their own–they had to have help from an advanced civilisation. This is insulting to the genius and abilities of the ancient people who toiled and crafted long and hard to create these works–the Pyramids, the ancient city of the dead on Malta, Stonehenge, etc.
Anyway, back to the images. In the first place, the pictograms found in Egypt are no great mystery. They’re in fact due, in at least a couple instances, to “overwriting” of one line onto another–in short, two adjecent lines–one above the other–overlapped slightly, creating the *appearance* of a pictogram that was not in fact intended by the Egyptian scribes/carvers. The Egyptians reading the lines could easily distinguish the pictograms, as we could if someone wrote two words closely together, and some of the letters touched or even overlapped a little. Our eyes could pick them out because we’d be looking for the context. Same goes for the pictograms in Egypt. An Egyptologist can pick them out and separate the two overlapping hieroglyphs. BUT… if you look at them ONLY as “pictures” and NOT pictograms, you may see something that the ancient Egyptian never would have seen. A flying saucer, for instance, or an airplane. This is purely accidental. For it to be anything else, you’d have to ignore the meaning of the lines—which makes no sense. They were written as a “sentence,” and one has to ask why the ancient Egyptians, if they wanted to illustrate the arrival of some advanced beings, wouldn’t have just drawn separate, clear images and why they wouldn’t have just come out and SAID it. They were never pressed for words, the Egyptians–they covered their temples, pillars, municipal buildings, tombs, etc. with endless row after row of the written word. Why no mention of advanced technology or alien beings? Even if they’d thought these beings were “gods,” the premise is that these “gods” flew around in aircraft or spaceships that are supposedly depicted in these pictograms—so why are they just “hidden” in pictograms and not clearly illustrated for what they were, if they in fact existed? And why aren’t they mentioned otherwise?
The other image from Egypt is of the so-called “lotus light” which apparently features an Egyptian operating some kind of enormous “lamp” which appears connected to something by a cord or wire–suggesting a modern electrical power supply. The explanation for this one is less prosaic, and I am not up enough on my Egyptology to speak to it authoritatively. But the archeological explanation, in essence, is that it is a metaphoric depiction of some kind of ritual or other involving lotus flowers, or something LIKE a lotus flower. Why the flower should be so honking BIG, I don’t get. But then the Egyptians were occasioned to mess around with scale and had little sense of perspective, it seems, so I suppose this one could be simply a matter of the weird Egyptian way of looking at things. At any rate, to make the leap that it must be some clear depiction of an electric light–well, again, that is LESS likely than the lotus explanation, it seems to me—since, again, we have absolutely no reference anywhere in Egyptian writings to this kind of advanced technology. And there’s been no physical evidence ever found to suggest its existence.
The tomb carving of the Mayans that Von Daniken talked about—I think that must be what you’re referring to—is I think at Palenque, and ostensibly depicts a Mayan emperor/king in a HIGHLY stylized pose and context, preparing to ascend to the celestial heaven after death. Now, my understanding is that this image is totally in keeping with otherwise ordinary and fairly common Mayan depictions of the death ritual and the idea of the afterlife; but the singular size and nature of this carving has always drawn attention to it. Nevertheless, archeologists have long pointed out that it’s simply a stylized version of the same essential KIND of tomb carving you see in many parts of the world—the king as a god, being raised to his heavenly destination. The unusual pose is evidently in line with Mayan poses depicted in other places, which is symbolically significant of the king accepting godhood, or what have you–I don’t recall exactly.
This wasn’t good enough for Von Daniken and his followers, however (Von Daniken is NOT an archeologist, one should note, nor are any of those who follow in his footsteps, like Graham Hancock or John West or their ilk…) Instead, they decided that it is the depiction of an astronaut flying a spaceship. Sure. By the way, making this depiction make even the slightest sense requires turning it on its side. Viewed the way it seems to have been intended to be viewed, you get much less a sense of the “astronaut” context… not that any was ever actually there in the first place.
108 Anti-rant
December 9th, 2009 at 8:36 am
I can gleek – started in school and used to nail the redneck bullies in the hallway as I passed.
109 CreepyGirl
December 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Krampus, once a year! Bahh..he visits me every month and those sticks hurt too!
Good list, love the grammar geeks.
110 Joanne
December 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
@Arsnl (64): By Article IV of the Antarctic Treaty, no part of Antacrtctica is French
111 Rob
December 9th, 2009 at 8:38 am
James, while John had had “had”, had had “had had”;
“had had” had had a better effect on the teacher.
In my own words: While John uses the term “had”, James uses the term “had had”; but “had had” had (had) a better effect on the teacher.
112 mom424
December 9th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Pretty good list; some stuff I didn’t know. Some I didn’t care to – I have a headache from all the hads.
@widggman (73): Jamie has requested those ads be removed but you need to dump your cache as well – that friggin’ redirect stays in memory until you flush it out.
113 psychosurfer
December 9th, 2009 at 8:43 am
I´m a terrific “Gleeker” since Junior High where we used to have saliva battles and gleeking precision challenges (or just did it to annoy the girls), oh it´s good to know that there´s a name to one of my greatest faculties!
I can also blow out saliva bubbles with cigarette smoke in them.
Man I´m talented
114 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 8:54 am
@Arsnl (103): Well, I can tell you right now that the closest I got to archaeology before I went to college was the Indiana Jones trilogy and I don’t remember there being anything in them about Irish Neolithic passage tombs! I’ve been reading up a lot on evolution and anthropology recently, and even if you look at some of the innovations in the archaeological record, it’s quite clear that some ideas just seem to occur separately in different parts of the world. When you’re talking about things that happened thousands of years ago, there’s no chance they could have read it in a book or seen it somewhere else.
What I’m trying to say, in a roundabout kind of way, is that humans, no matter where you find them, are essentially the same and think the same kind of thoughts.
Look at things like music or dance – all cultures have a variation on them, yet some cultures have been isolated from others for hundreds of years.
115 Woot
December 9th, 2009 at 8:57 am
9 Hyperthymesia, that section is incomplete and misleading. I’m a psychology major taking Neuropsychology courses and we had a brief discussion on it as it seemed unreal that anyone person could have such excellent memory recall. In actually this condition has nothing to do with superior memory. These people suffer from OCD that preoccupies them with their memories of the past.
So these people actually have very average memory in terms of brain activity and structure, will even have average recall for recent events = only because they havent had time to obsess about them. They take extensive notes and relive those days nonstop. Their brain activity actually indicates OCD.
Here is an article: http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/magazine/17-04/ff_perfectmemory
116 Woot
December 9th, 2009 at 8:58 am
@Woot (115): Actuality lol sorry. Typo.
117 wicket18
December 9th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Yes, I can gleek! I learned sophomore year in geometry..nothing better to do.
I love these types of lists.
118 Anonnymous
December 9th, 2009 at 9:14 am
heres my go at #15
James (while john had had “had”) had had “had had”; “had had” had had a better effect on the teacher.
makes the most sense to me
119 Skrillah
December 9th, 2009 at 9:18 am
SCrew entry # 15 !! it messed up my tropical brain so bad and actually succeeded in making me feel like a complete retard!
GOOD List!. Nj JF.
120 gav
December 9th, 2009 at 9:31 am
It’s cold and flu season in the northern hemisphere. Please stop gleeking!
Krampus has been slacking in his duties. I wonder if he beats naughty Jewish children during Hannukah too.
Just because a sentence CAN be written in a confusing and non-communicative manner doesn’t mean it should. (I know many texts from the “over-educated” that could use this advice)
JFrater, congratulations on having a best seller! We’re all rooting for further successes and look forward to your next book!
121 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 9:35 am
@Firefly (114): hmm i was writting about aspects that are so different in all the cultures around the globe( language written and spoken, popular beliefs and maybe religion) but i arrived to the conclusion that once a connection between two cultures is made this will change irreversibly their own evolution(Kinda like a gene that was recently discovered that had the property of making impossible to return to a previous state once a mutation has occured). Even after you separate those cultures the changes will still remain in that society. So a few hundred years wouldnt mean a lot. I became interrested though in unusual myths that exist around the globe e.g. The great flood. You have it in the bible but i remember a documentary about it and it speaks about aboriginal australians and the fact that they have a myth like that one in their culture.
All this talking about anthropology makes me look into claude-levi strauss to see if he mentions about this. Luckly the holidays are getting closer. Unluckly i have my exam period but just doing math all day long is boring and i feel like a moron in this discution( hate it when it happens)
ps i
122 kidd1991
December 9th, 2009 at 9:41 am
James, while John had had “had”, had had “had had”; “had had” had had a better effect on the teacher.
123 AshleyR
December 9th, 2009 at 9:44 am
haha. gleeking. i can do that. sometimes it happens on accident but most times it isnt. i can shoot the saliva way far. it helps to drink water before trying
124 Taylor
December 9th, 2009 at 9:47 am
@Randall (107):
It was more than just Egypt where these drawings appeared. Australia, Peru and other places as well. All of these civilizations drew pictures of themselves with aliens or at least what we today think aliens would look like.
Watch “Secret Space 2″, it’s interesting and talks all about this stuff.
125 Firefly
December 9th, 2009 at 9:52 am
@Arsnl (121): genetically, there is little diversity amongst humans so we’re all pretty much the same. Therefore it doesn’t really surprise me that we sometimes get ‘coincidences’ and other weird things. Mythology is another one of my interests and it’s surprising how often the same themes and even similar characters.
The more I study these things the more fascinated I become and the more complex I realise we really are.
I doubt we’ll ever fully understand how we work, most likely because we’ll end up driving ourselves to extinction before we get the chance.
126 nyota0uhura
December 9th, 2009 at 9:54 am
@Woot, while you are surely have a very qualified opinion because of your studies, I would like to point out that what you are saying about these supposed cases of hyperthymesia being extreme OCD cases is not entirely true. I have recently read Jill Price’s autobiography “The Woman Who Can’t Forget” and she gives a lot of medical background to her condition, including quotes by her doctors (some of which are leading specialists in the field of memory research, neuropsychology etc). Before her condition surfaced (which was in her early adolescence) she already had a remarkable memory and she certainly did not have OCD, in any way, shape or form. After the condition started growing, she wasn’t OC either. Over the years, her condition has caused her to be very attached to certain objects, places or people but that isn’t OCD in the strictest sense of the word. And if you do wanna use that term, it’s only a very mild form of OCD. I think the operative words in your comment were “brief discussion” – the problems of people with hyperthymesia are much more complex. And if anything, the condition may lead to OCD, not the other way around. I recommend Price’s book, it’s a fascinating read, without dumbing the medical aspects down.
127 Swifty66
December 9th, 2009 at 10:00 am
In regards to #10
I never realized that us Bostonians so much in common with New Zealanders! I never understood why we ignore the “r” in “car” and add one at the end of “idea(r)” and area(r)”!
128 lrigD
December 9th, 2009 at 10:03 am
@67 Astraya:
The version of Saint Nicholas you described is the story/event around Sinterklaas, which is the 5th of December in mostly the Netherlands. It’s actually said that the idea of Father Christmas (“Kerstman” in Dutch, ‘Christmas man) came from Sinterklaas (who is an old man on a horse xD). Sinterklaas has helpers which are called Zwarte Piet (Black Peter). Zwarte Piet basically checks (the old version is that he goes up a roof and looks down a chimney) if children have been naughty, and if they have been, Zwarte Piet will take them back to Spain (where Sinterklaas + Zwarte Piet is said to come from). If children have been good, on the 5th of December children will get presents from Sinterklaas & Zwarte Piet.
It’s my favourite holiday =)
Anyway, I always love these little fact lists. I love trivia!
129 Unbiast
December 9th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Thats too funny. I have been a “gleeker” for the past 20 years. I can get 2 very long continuous streams for a few seconds. sour condies work really well to get you going or just biting the very tip of your tongue, not too much now it hurts.
130 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 10:18 am
@Firefly (125): Can you tell me a of an irish myth that is trully unique. That would be quite an interresting to find out. I think i found out one in my culture( im not french): there are 3 shepherds and two are planning to kill the other so they can take all of his sheep. But the funny part is that the one to be killed is being warned by one of his sheep( a super sheep aparently) and now he is telling this sheep what to do after he is gone. Folklore is pretty interresting too it talks about your culture and sometimes its counter intuitive( why the hell didnt that guy run away)
ps: it has been quite an interesting chat this one:)
131 Bill
December 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
JFrater, your “lists,” make me want to explore deeper into the subjects your list present.
FYI: Here is a website of Man (BRAD WILLIAMS) this is/has Hyperthymesia:
http://www.unforgettabledoc.com/
132 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
@Joanne (110): i just know that france is separated in france metropolitaine et DOM-TOM and that slice of antarctica is part of the dom-tom. Im no familiar with what exactly that part of antarctica is but i know i really think its part of france :-p
133 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 10:31 am
@Taylor (124):
Calliope specifically mentioned the glyphs of Egypt and the Maya, which is why I only addressed those two.
Anyway…
This is all just a rehash of “Chariots of the Gods” and “In Search of Ancient Civilizations” and suchlike, all of which were done over 30 years ago. The premise is that because we see odd things in ancient carvings, drawings, and glyphs, that they must fall to OUR modern interpretation. This is NOT scientific nor is it valid.
Man is a symbolic creature; he lives by metaphor and representation. All these modern-day “ancient astronaut” theorists are doing is taking symbols out of their context and interpreting them from a MODERN, and thus highly inappropriate and anachronistic, point of view, which is itself relying on symbolic representation. We might see flying saucers in these drawings, or beings in space helmets. The ancients probably saw something completely different and meant something completely different.
Interpretation is a tricky thing. We see this even in our own modern world, where symbols mean all kinds of different things to different people. Even simple gestures of the hand or movements of the head can have different meanings in different places, to different people.
The context in which these drawings/carvings, etc., are found (assuming there IS a context) MUST be taken into account. To ignore it is simply bad science, or no science at all.
In Peru, for instance, there is Tihuanaco, which is I assume what you are talking about when you refer to drawings in Peru. There are carvings at this site that have been interpreted by “ancient astronaut” theorists to depict all manner of advanced beings, etc. But they simply don’t hold water. Now, the inhabitants of the city apparently had no system of writing, so we can’t know for sure what they meant to depict. But which is more valid? A symbolic, metaphoric, spiritual interpretation for various god images and mythological totems? Or the idea that they saw advanced beings from space and tried to depict them? Which makes more sense? Which is more likely? It’s Occam’s Razor. The more likely is that they are stylized mythological depictions in varying degrees of metaphoric representation–not pictures of alien beings.
134 Woot
December 9th, 2009 at 10:33 am
@nyota0uhura (126):
While I cant really say anything about the book as I have not read it, I can say some things about OCD. It can happen at any age and does not need to manifest itself in physical form so actually it could very well be that she had OCD as a child and it manifested itself as an obsession over her daily activities. So I dont know how you can say with certainty she did not have it as a child. There are children with OCD. Her obsession is with the past, her compulsion is to go over it nonstop.
If you read the article I presented (as its not just me saying this but qualified specialists and neuroscientists) she had obsessive behaviours as a child and the brain activity indicates OCD. The listerverse article is incomplete because it does not include this information, even if it might be a tad controversial.
135 psychosurfer
December 9th, 2009 at 10:35 am
@nyota0uhura (126): I also recommend you the November 2007 issue of National Geographic where they explore another case of “Perfect memory”, here it´s “AJ” who also shows signs of OCD. It´s hard to determine if one condition leads to the other, but the truth is they have a high correlation.
Regarding the Pareidolia issue, I think there´s a confusion among the commenters between it and some of the Gestalt principles.
Finally I´d like to openly challenge all LV gleakers to a precision AND distance competition.
136 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am
@psychosurfer (135): i really have a difficult
time trying to find out where is the confusion. I think its a tendecy of the brain to organise things
137 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 10:47 am
@psychosurfer (135): @Arsnl (136):
My understanding is that Gestalt merely describes this phenomenon… it doesn’t EXPLAIN it. Pareidolia, then, as a concept, is reflective of Gestalt… but it is also an ANSWER, in a sense, as to why we have this tendency.
Or well… if not an “answer” per se—it suggest an answer—which is that we are all hard-wired to recognize imagery via by patterning.
138 Danielle
December 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I can gleek
I didn’t know it had a name, though… ‘Gleeking’. Hehehe!
139 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 10:48 am
@Randall (137):
Yeah, okay Randall… sorry, that last sentence should read, “…which is that we are all hard-wired to recognize imagery via patterning.” NOT “via by.”
140 Taylor
December 9th, 2009 at 10:53 am
@Randall (133):
You have lot’s of arguments but I’m not sure where you stand on the subject. Do you think there’s a possibility aliens once came to earth way back when based on the evidence, or is there no chance and every argument from all those movies can be proved false?
We might see eye to eye on this one and there’s no point getting into an argument if you agree with someone.
141 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 11:00 am
@Randall (139): this is purelly a grammatical question. No funny business: shouldnt it be “it suggests”
@Taylor (140): so a mighty civilization came down from heaven and all we got was a drawing of a light bulb. Damn not even a really tricked out space age iphone??
142 Taylor
December 9th, 2009 at 11:08 am
@Arsnl (141):
Haha funny you should ask that, in that documentary I watched it explained how aliens can communicate telepathically and wouldn’t even need some tricked out space age iphone haha.
That would have been nice of them though to leave something sweet like that with us, if they came at all I guess.
143 Kiwiet
December 9th, 2009 at 11:24 am
@ number 15: There’s a similar tonguetwister I’ve found in french (though not quite so epic as the examples in the list)
“Si ton tonton tond ton tonton ton tonton sera tondu”
translating as: if your uncle shaves your (other) uncle, your uncle will be shaved. Note that ‘tond’ and ‘ton’ are pronounced the same.
Very nice list
I always enjoy random factlets!
144 psychosurfer
December 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
@Arsnl (136): @Randall (137):
I think the difference is based on the Complexity of the representation, while Gestalt principles are simple, universal and innate, Pareidolia is a process that is influenced by peoples´ experiences and beliefs so it represents a more complex algorithm.
This is analog to the distinction between sensation and perception.
145 Bo
December 9th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Whey, I go to 6th form in Godalming! Nice to know a bit of history about the town!!
Great list BTW
146 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 11:37 am
@Taylor (142): well thank you for explaining me this. You have shown me truth life light beauty. Geesh telepathy?? How do they explain that? So if they dont have iphones where do they store their music; do they still have appstore and touchscreens?? I never understood how do aliens avoid crowdind their channels if many aliens use telepathy. And how does telepathy work?? What would be a organ that could produce ” telepayhic waves”. I still prefer iphones cuz u have bluetooth, wi-fi, 3g now about to become 4g. See you’ve got fast evolution not that slow darwinistic one.
@Kiwiet (143): i dont think its like the buffalo thing cuz there you just use one word. Its really impressive. In the “ton tonton tond ton…” you can clearly see the verbs and all the parts
147 mom424
December 9th, 2009 at 11:42 am
@Taylor (142): “in that documentary I watched it explained how aliens can communicate telepathically” – I’m assuming this documentary wasn’t on PBS. Maybe on Fox? Youtube? Would love to see their empirical evidence.
148 Patrick
December 9th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Lol I thought I was the only one that could gleek! guess there are others too
149 Disc Huker
December 9th, 2009 at 11:47 am
humorist david sedaris tells a very funny story about his encounters with the european traditions surrounding the Christmas holidays in a story entitled “6 to 8 black men”.
from an american perspective, the overseas traditions are just downright peculiar. and i am sure the the opposite is true as well.
follow the link and get ready to laugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbJpRLhaSqs
(this just links to part 1, make sure to listen to parts 2 and 3 as well. it is about 15 minutes total.)
150 Gatsby
December 9th, 2009 at 11:53 am
I’ve been gleeking since high school. I’m 33 now. I really should go about growing up one of these days now. I only do it when my dogs drool on me. See previous sentence.
151 Taylor
December 9th, 2009 at 11:55 am
@Arsnl (146): @mom424 (147):
Hahah there are obviously some aspects of this documentary I find hard to believe as well, like this telepathy talk, there’s an explanation of why they think the aliens use telepathy in the show but I can’t remember it. It was still worth watching, and could be true, and although I am sure both of you think the documentary is full of shit based on my last comment I still think you should watch it.
152 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
@psychosurfer (144): what a beautiful, lovely beat around the bush. You remind me of Dirac’s quote on poetry:”In science one tries to tell people, in such a way as to be understood by everyone, something that no one ever knew before. But in poetry, it’s the exact opposite.”
153 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 11:57 am
@Arsnl (141):
Yeah, my typing skills are off today.
154 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
@Taylor (140):
I acknowledge that it is possible that alien beings came to this planet in the past. Because nearly anything is possible, and I can’t prove that they didn’t.
But no, the evidence presented that you’re talking about does not prove that aliens did come here, and in fact my stance is that it does not constitute “evidence” at all, because most of it, perhaps all of it, can be shown to have other contextual meanings–and more likely ones. In short, Occam’s Razor.
So no, I do not agree with the ancient astronaut theorists. They are basing their ideas on “evidence” which is invalid. Almost every single piece of evidence they present–perhaps *every* piece–has another, valid, and more likely archeological/artistic/mythological/psycho-social explanation.
155 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
@psychosurfer (144):
Perhaps I’m wrong in this, but I had never thought that pareidolia was predicated on, or had as a necessary cause, a particular belief system.
Jamie uses the example of people seeing the Virgin Mary and whatnot, in toast and other silly objects… but that’s a narrower definition of pareidolia, I think.
Take the “face on Mars.” Are you familiar with that? That was an example of pareidolia. The low-resolution picture made the mesa look like a human face. Later higher resolution photos showed this to be merely a trick of the light and some of the ordinary topography.
I don’t believe it required a particular belief system, in the way that seeing Jesus in a paint stain would. (In other words, you’d have to know who Jesus was and have some visual image of him in your mind, in order to see him a pattern somewhere).
I had always thought, then, that pareidolia was simply the process of finding patterns in imagery which is in fact totally random. It CAN be based on a pre-existing belief system, which can help it. But it doesn’t HAVE to be.
Back to Mars—Percival Lowell’s claims for seeing canals on Mars, in huge numbers–would again, presumably, be a kind of pareidolia. He saw vague shapes and contrasts between the dark and light patterns on the planet, and his eye and his mind contrived to connect these patterns with lines. It’s a common phenomenon.
156 Taylor
December 9th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
@Randall (154):
Is there anything you don’t know?
157 Geron
December 9th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
i can gleek any time i want. ive been doing it since like middle school. i can shoot the saliva out like 6 or 7 feet especially if ive just eaten something very sour
158 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
@Disc Huker (149): That was really funny dude. Thanks. I have the same tradition but im not dutch( well except for the 6-8 black “friends” and the living in spain part)
159 Disc Huker
December 9th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
arsnl: i was hoping someone would take the time. that guy cracks me up.
160 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
@Taylor (156):
“@Randall (154):
Is there anything you don’t know?”
No.
161 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
@Disc Huker (159): im not a hard sale. I love stand up. Mitch hedberg, jimmy carr. The lot. Cheers;)
162 Taylor
December 9th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
@Randall (160):
I have an idea that will not only revolutionize listverse it will also increase it’s efficiency 10 fold. Whenever someone thinks of a topic that will make a great list, instead of doing research and writing the list themselves, they can just tell you the topic and you should be able to rattle the list off in a few minutes off the top of your head.
Are you game for that?
163 psychosurfer
December 9th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
@Arsnl (152):
Sorry, I didn´t catch the irony of your tone from the first comment, I thought I was making myself clear and that you were honestly asking, so I gave you a straightforward and very condensed answer, thinking that we were understanding each other in the same terms.
Dirac´s statement is correct, however the scientist also needs to “translate” to the non-scientist in order for him to understand, such a process I can´t afford to do right now because I don´t know who you are or where are you standing.
In order to avoid all this misunderstanding in the near future and to spare all LVersers of this unsuccessful exchange, you can just say “I didn´t understand a word of what you just said” (don´t worry I get that a lot), or simply ignore me (idem).
Have a nice day
164 shaymm
December 9th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
@jfrater (8): Great news….I havent bought the book yet, but was considering as a Christmas present for a few people. I tell enough people about the website anyways, so I might as well buy a book for them to get just as hooked as I am
165 jwrljr
December 9th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
James, while John had had “had”, had had “had had”;
“had had” had had a better effect on the teacher
166 psychosurfer
December 9th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
@Randall (155):
I never stated a “belief system”, I just pointed out that while Gestalt principles tend to integrate abstract and basic shapes into organized patterns, Pareidolia relies more on experience and gives a Meaning to those shapes (i.e. a face, Virgin Mary, SpongeBob, etc.)
167 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
@Taylor (162):
Good plan. I don’t work for free though.
168 Arsnl
December 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
@psychosurfer (163): i wasnt being ironic. When you said confusion i thought. Damn im so stupid. I should it and see exactly for myself. I dont want to make an ass of myself. But instead it was the type of confusion that is really not important to me. You were going to the depths of the matter in a phylosofical nature. For me that was beating it around the bush. I wouldnt have bugged you if you would have explained that confusion from the get go. Well sorry for an embarrassing posting for you.
Ps maybe i got it wrong but you were not the scientist in dirac’s statement:p
169 Wael
December 9th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
holy shit !! I learned how to gleek !! xD watched a couple youtube vids and checked it on wikihow, its really easy ! you just have to have a watery mouth ! sometimes it works by just playing with the “glands” (or the pair of loose skin under your tongue) with the tip of your tongue, and then shooting !(this tip if for the folks that have a mouth that dries quick such as myself). It’s epic xD. Tomorrow shall be known as “Spray Day” for my classmates.
170 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
@psychosurfer (166):
You didn’t say “belief system,” but you did mention “beliefs.”
Again, though, in reading this latest comment, it kind of sounds like you didn’t read all of MY last comment. I said that MY take on pareidolia is that it is NOT dependent on beliefs or experience… and I gave the examples of the Face on Mars and Lowell’s Martian canals.
In short, I’m not sure there’s all that much distinction between pareidolia and what we’d call the Gestalt.
171 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
December 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Too bad the Krampus was not in the Metalocalypse Christmas special.
172 psychosurfer
December 9th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
@Randall (170): I read you thoroughly, but we can have another debate on what does “experience” mean, in order to recognize that something is a face, you have to previously know what a face is (right?), that´s the kind of experience I was talking about, a subject well studied by modern behaviorists such as Bandura.
Maybe some other time, cheers.
173 Tracey-Lynn
December 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I can gleek marvously. Always wondered what it was called though, and does anyone know what purpose it could possibly serve apart from embarrassing yourself when you do it accidently in public?
174 chubbmeister
December 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
@Rob (111):
thanks, this is the first time I ‘get it’
175 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
@General Tits Von Chodehoffen (171):
No, he was in the Venture Brothers Christmas Special. Even better.
176 acb26
December 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I’m a master gleeker. I majored in it in middle school.
@Tracey-Lynn (173): my theory is that it is our version of the venom spray, like a snake sssssssssss
177 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
@psychosurfer (172):
Well… if you’re going to totally discount experience… then what is the Gestalt? Even Gestalt is still *based* on *something,* you could argue…
178 Gabriel
December 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Number 9 was showed in a TV show, here in Brazil, some month ago. They made a special report about two people, both americans, that have this condition.
179 popi
December 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
the krampus accompanies Saint Nicholas,not santa.santa claus and saint nickolas are NOT the same person….even here in austria people confuse them,i don´t know why….when i was a little girl,i never heard of a santa,i was always thought that the christkind brings the gifts on christmas…
180 Kyla
December 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
My sister used to gleek on me all the time. It was disgusting, but I guess that is just the curse of being the youngest.
181 Spiff17
December 9th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Randall: You watch the Venture Brothers?? Ha, amazing. Best show ever made. Well, maybe not quite…but close. The strangest part is I was watching Season 3 the other day and I literally thought to myself “this show seems like something that crazy, know-it-all, bastard Randall on Listeverse would enjoy” (no offense, thats just what my thoughts said) and was actually going to recommend it to you but lo and behold you’ve already seen it. Having said all that I hope you enjoy it. If you hate it I’ll kind of look like a tool and you’ll find some way to verbally destroy me. But I’m confident enough in the excellence of the show and your good taste to step out and assume that you’re a big fan.
182 plow22
December 9th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Gleeking was banned when I was in jr. high, it had become quite the epidemic!
183 GTT
December 9th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
@Swifty66 (127): You Bostonians have the funniest accents… I have very fond memories of the city… though that probably has a lot to do with the fact that Boston is the best college “town” you´ll ever see.
@Taylor (142): “in that documentary I watched it explained how aliens can communicate telepathically” Enough said.
And as a side note, I´ve been attemping the whole gleeking thing for last 15 minutes and all I´ve been able to do is bite my tongue…
184 samfishers
December 9th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
I can gleek.. I didn’t know it had a a name… wow (i guess I am a chosen one!
oh, and for no. 1 Pareidolia It has also been see with the incident of 9/11. Some people say to see the faces of the devil or the faces of some terrorists in the smoke and flame of the explosions.
finally, this is a good list, a good one once in a week, finally. thanks a a lot!
185 Taze
December 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Oh my goodness! I’ve only read to the second factlet so far, but my family and I used to gleek each other all the time, just as one of those little things we’d do to get on each other’s nerves. I’m so glad that such a quirky thing has such a cute & quirky name. My afternoon just got better. Now, on with the rest of the list.
186 Iakhovas
December 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Speaking of Gleeking, how many times have you been speaking to someone and it’s accidently happened? You just keep talking, not wanting to draw attention to the fact that you just spat in their face. And then a few seconds later, you will see them casually wipe it off while attempting to hide the action as a scratch. You know you spat in their face, they know you spat in their face, you know that they know that you spat in their face, but everyone continues talking like nothing happened. What a polite society we live in….
187 Nishi
December 9th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Gleeking on friends is one of my pasttimes. =D
188 val
December 9th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
James, while John had had “had”, had had “had had”;
“had had” had had a better effect on the teacher.
189 brendaaa.
December 9th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I can’t gleek
190 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
@Spiff17 (181):
Been a fan of the Venture Bros. from the beginning.
Shouldn’t say this, because it sounds kind of braggy and all… but I kinda *know* Chris McCulloch… (Jackson Publick).
Anyway, I think it pretty much IS the funniest show on TV… certainly I’ve laughed out loud more times at the Venture Bros. than anything else… even Family Guy, which I also love.
Last season the show didn’t seem as funny… seemed like the story arcs were more important than the humor. Still never laughed as hard as I did at the “Pirates of the Sargasso” episode.
“Dude! GIVE HIM ONE!”
191 mattofutexas
December 9th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
I don’t know why my Listverse account no longer exists, but I just wanted to log in to say that I have been able to gleek my whole life, and it never took me any practice, it’s pretty easy actually. While reading this I tried to do it intentionally for the first time in like a decade and was still able to do it. I think it’s a pretty common thing
192 segue
December 9th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
@astraya (67): No one is doubting you or lo, astraya. “factlet”, though not found in any dictionary in my possession, has become a word through popular usage (even if that popular usage is confined to LV!). I would, however, take it a bit further and add factette to the lexicon.
I have come across people with some of these oddnesses, and to be truthful they amuse me. I see no harm in someone seeing the face of Jesus in his piece of toast, and gleeking is surely harmless ( I can gleek, but I’ve never found any use for it, I think it must be a “guy” thing).
Zebroids brought something to mind, but the research I’d have to do to get the exact answer would take too long…it seems that Zebras stripes are either narrow or wide (in context), depending on when they are laid down on the embryo. At one time I could tell you the exact days involved, but now I’d have to look it up. At least I know which book it’s in.
btw, the shoot went well, had to break for a couple of days in the middle, so got Kaua’i in then. Glad to be back, though.
193 Spiff17
December 9th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
@Randall: Haha, Pirates of the Sargasso is one of my favorite episodes too! I agree that it is hands down the funniest show on TV. Definitely better than Family Guy. I also enjoy Family Guy but something about watching it makes me feel a little dumber afterwards, whereas Venture Bros. offers a more intelligent brand of humor. I agree Season 3 was overly story focused but the insanity of the plot developments always keeps me entertained. I love the continuity of the story and characters despite the sometimes manic complexity of the plot.
What’s your connection with Chris McCulloch? I don’t think its braggy to share awesome information. Which that is. Besides, since when did Randall shy from sounding braggy?
McCulloch is a genius and as far as I can tell hasn’t received nearly the recognition he deserves. I’m Canadian so maybe the show is bigger in the US than I’m aware of but here very few people seem to know about it. Are you a fan of “The Tick” as well? I read that McCulloch also did some writing for The Tick as a result of catching the attention of Tick’s creator Ben Edlund, though I think just for the comics and not the show. But I found the connection interesting as The Tick is another series that I love and has many similarities to Venture Bros. in terms of parodying superheroes and other nerd-approved subjects and in keeping a continuous storyline.
194 Diogenes
December 9th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I would think with Pareidolia, to hear something as recognizable in something thats not would be quite different from seeing something (form) in something non representational. infants respond to two black dots apart from one another like eyes. Our fixed attention is to registering detail in form and our sense is to pick up on meaning in the meaningless.
seeing ourselves in the faces of rocks is connected in some way with extending outside the domains of the tangible. It’s just that we are bound to what we know and it is rather easy to make enlightened observations about how a person must get rid of what they have learned in order to truly “see”. It’s just BS really.
Years ago I was in the library searching for books on freaks (because that’s the kinda guy I am) and discovered “The Girl Who Gave Birth to Rabbits” by Pickover. I would recommend it simply because I don’t know of any other inprint books that details the full story. It has it’s faults as published words but who cares, I hadn’t ever heard of her at the time so it was quite a lucky find and I enjoyed the reaction when reading it on the train and others would see the title…I think (I could be wrong) that the Toft book also introduced me to “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds” because there’s a great appendix in the Pickover book from what I recall and I love connecting things that way.
This is just from my own faulty memory but I read something not too long ago about a woman who lived with what sounds like Hyperthymesia. She or the article described her as a time traveler because what she experiences is an inner wormhole trajectory to place and time specifically. She was unaware that her case was at all unique and thought everybody was like her.
anyway, Ive always been astounded and somewhat in disbelief by the few people I have known that remember their infancy.
I wonder if the examiners of the four people(!?) with hyperthymesia have been asked to describe memory before language? They must have done this!
and of coarse on top of that, to be asked about before birth.
How much of everything and all experienced?
195 nuriko
December 9th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
had had “had”, had had “had had”, had had “had had”?
cool list though one pic is scary!!!!
196 Diogenes
December 9th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
p.s. –Hyperthymesia as genetic memory?
197 Nick-Mick
December 9th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
I can forcibly gleek, i learned how after yawning one time, and i can get about a foot and half of distance, =]
198 tinky
December 9th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
i thought gleeking was something that everybody could do when i was younger. course i also thought that everyone was double jointed in their right arm and santa existed.
er, spoiler alert everyone.
199 EVACREEK
December 9th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
IIn my young teen years through anbout `8-`9m I could greely gleek (usually only about twice, and then a “rest
period (maybe 20-30 mins.). I slways thought it was ahe related, since I can’t do it nowadasys.
200 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
December 9th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
@Randall (175): Damn dude you legit do know everything! What do you do?
201 james herbertson
December 9th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
so the pope went up in flames then?
202 Zaeriuraschi 11098 (pronounced zay-ree-ooh-ras-chee)
December 9th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
For as long as I can remember, I’ve been able to gleek and never thought much of it. Now I feel special.
203 ken
December 9th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Gleeking. I’ve been able to do this all of my life and never knew what it was called and never met anyone else who could do it.
204 Chamale
December 9th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
My English teacher uses the intrusive ‘R’… a bit ironic, don’t ya think?
I wonder how those aliens managed to found every major religion on Earth. Did they make lots of return trips? They would have to go to India around 400 BCE, Israel in about 25 CE, Mecca in 600, Illinois in 1840, Arizona in 1952. That’s a lot of flying around and founding religions.
205 lo
December 9th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
jamie-
i’m not convinced “factlet” is a real word either. all i know it that “factoid”, while real, was the wrong word (lists ago). i kinda think you have coined the term “factlet” yourself, which is quite awesome
congrats on LV book 2
206 Diogenes
December 9th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
well, astraya made it up- so it’s real.
aside from that
Geekers of the World Unite!
2010 is upon us.
Unite dammit.
UNITE!
207 Diogenes
December 9th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
and by geekers i mean gleekers
dont i look stoopid now
208 Randall
December 9th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
@Spiff17 (193):
Yeah I was a big fan of “The Tick.” I miss it. Ben Edlund did an episode for Venture Bros., by the way… the one parodying Scooby Doo, where all the characters are various serial killers, etc.
McCulloch… kind of a long story, but I’ve met him socially a couple times, talked to him… chat now and then online… though not for a long time really, now.
209 zipgun
December 9th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
#2 is quite a fact. My sister is EVIL and does it to me all the time. Well, not evil, but you know.. WHY MUST YOU SPIT ON PEOPLE THOUGH!
210 wondersquid
December 9th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
This list brought back a childhood memory of sitting under the slide on the playground and discovering I could gleek. I don’t seem to be able to do it now, though.
211 shmo
December 9th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
dude i gleek all the time lol i didn’t know there was a term for it
212 El the erf
December 9th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
“In our quest to protect the human race a deeper revelation dawns.We…have met before.”(crashing of pots and pans)
But hey, Fallen was no prophet.
Thus the Ancient Astronaut theory stands failed.
As for people who have been screaming “I can gleek too! I can gleek too!”
Why not tell us how you do it?
I for one would also like to know how people whistle from the mouth using the index and the little finger. Whenever I try it it is always a muzzy pfffffft
213 Carole
December 9th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
#9 How do we know they recall perfectly, if they are the only ones who know?
The buffalo and had had sentences are nonsense Nice try.
214 segue
December 9th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
@Diogenes (194):…I wonder if the examiners of the four people(!?) with hyperthymesia have been asked to describe memory before language?
I’m glad I don’t, can you imagine the boredom of remembering every meal you ever ate?)
****
It’s odd, perhaps, but I have always had spotty memories of time going back to at least a few months old and, scarily, a few that might be pre-birth. I absolutely do NOT have hyperthymesia, but I do have a very “illustrative” memory. I see things as images; either in motion or still, as is required. I can relive entire years of my childhood (in warp speed, stopping where I want), and see, feel, and smell the minutes I lived exactly then.
I do remember every phone number and locker combination I’ve ever had. I could, by phone, direct you to any item in my wardrobe or bookshelf. I could describe any room in which I have ever lived.
Unlike the people with hyperthymesia, I do not recall every moment of my life (although I recall too many for comfort!
Maybe there is a sort of semi- hyperthymesia, or maybe I just have a good memory.
215 smokingfrog
December 9th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Wow!!
#5 is scary
#9 is interesting,
actually one such person came on the guiness world record prime time show once. He could remember a looooooot of things
the “buffalo” sentence is fantastic
but i didnt get the “had had” sentence
Fantastic List btw, keep the factlets coming
216 NijimaSan
December 9th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Pareidolia – Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
217 stefan
December 9th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
i can gleek up to 2 metres !!!
218 Becca
December 9th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
I can defiantly Gleek! I always thought of it as “sucking” saliva from just below my bottom teeth. I never intentionally tried to learn it. Not sure how I did.
219 The boy from troy
December 9th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
@stefan (217): You are obviously lying.
220 Spiff17
December 10th, 2009 at 12:00 am
@Randall: Whether or not its been a while since you spoke with him that’s still really cool that you know him. He must be a pretty entertaining guy. And I had no idea that Ben Edlund wrote that episode. Pays to watch the credits sometimes I guess. I actually have all the Tick episodes on dvd. I’m a little ashamed to admit that they’re pirated versions off of ebay but at the time that I bought them the show hadn’t been officially released on dvd yet. The quality is pretty bad but its better than nothing. I never watched the live action version. I was afraid it sully my love of the Tick though I heard it wasn’t too bad. Have you seen it?
221 lo
December 10th, 2009 at 12:26 am
ooooh, krampus -including the same graphic used above- featured in tonight’s “colbert report”!
think his writers read listverse? (yeah i know they probably taped this before the list popped up). or is it just magnificent synchronicity?
great either way
222 Mindymoo
December 10th, 2009 at 1:09 am
She put rabbits and cat claws in her hoo-hah?
I am never going to be able to sleep again.
223 Kris
December 10th, 2009 at 1:14 am
Fact #11….there used to be an animal that was very similar..cross horse/donkey/Zebra…but it was called a Quagga and is now extinct? Well thats what I learnt.
Maybe its just a Quagga is South Africa…
224 Kris
December 10th, 2009 at 1:15 am
IN S.A.
225 Firefly
December 10th, 2009 at 3:54 am
@Arsnl (130): I’m not sure if this myth is unique but I like it anyway. There is a place in Armagh called Navan Fort. The Irish name is Emain Macha (pronounced aw-en wocha). This means the twins of Macha. Apparently, there was a farmer whose wife died. One day a woman (possibly a goddess in disguise) turned up at his house and acted as if she were his wife. As long as she stayed, he got richer and richer. They were going to a festival and she told him not to say anything about her to anyone. He promised not to but during a chariot race he couldn’t help but boast she could run faster than any horse. The king demanded that she be brought before him and tested. Despite being heavily pregnant she was forced to race horses. She won but gave birth on the finish line (some accounts say she died) and cursed the men of Ulster that they would fell her labour pains in their hour of need.
You’re right, this has been an interesting chat
226 sonicsuicide
December 10th, 2009 at 4:43 am
Gleeking is called ‘leeching’ in South Africa. I have been able to do it since I was 8, and it really annoys people.. hehe.
227 Spring
December 10th, 2009 at 6:13 am
I Can Gleek!! I can gleek. This is how I do in.
First i bite on the tip of my toungue, to stimulate the saliva production. Then I use the technique you discribed.
It’s like a fountain. Kinda cool.
228 muzli
December 10th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Next time I some flames I would try very hard to visualise one of my high school teachers. I would try very, very hard. Now, that would really make my day !
229 ratface
December 10th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Gleeking does not require “much practice,” it just requires you to know how to do it, I guess. I can do it easily and don’t have to think about it. I actually just did all over the compurter screen
230 Fallennyte
December 10th, 2009 at 8:08 am
I can gleek too, it’s not hard at all! The poor Zebroid (which I believe has been mentioned before) looks like a miserably sad creature.
231 psychosurfer
December 10th, 2009 at 9:11 am
@segue (214): It´s nice to have you back, we´ve missed you.
232 quber1
December 10th, 2009 at 9:34 am
in number 14 the year 1700 wouldn’t be a leap year anyway, for a century year to be a leap year it has to be divisible by 400 and not just 4
233 Cait
December 10th, 2009 at 10:43 am
LOL I saw Krampus on The Daily Show the other day. (Or was it The Colbert Report? I don’t remember.)
And I can gleek. I guess I’m a freak of nature, I don’t remember a time where I COULDN’T do it. Sorta like me being able to wiggle my ears by using the muscle that’s right behind them. Everyone thinks I’m weird for being able to do that too. Hmmm.
234 RedMan
December 10th, 2009 at 10:57 am
I am suprised that people find gleaking hard. I remember doing it as little kid and not by accident. I have always found it easy. Anyway maybe some people just try to hard. Decent list.
235 althompsone
December 10th, 2009 at 11:25 am
James, while John had had “had”, had had “had had”;
“had had” had had a better effect on the teacher.
This is the punctuated sentence given in Wiki.
Not a completely feasible one for me, though.
The section after the semi-colon (the ‘;’, if I’ve used the correct expression) would be more plausible as a second sentence.
I suggest a more feasible ‘puzzle’, somewhat less dramatic as it may be:
James while John had had had had had had had
had had having had a better effect on the teacher
236 segue
December 10th, 2009 at 11:32 am
@psychosurfer (231): Thank you!
237 Randall
December 10th, 2009 at 11:41 am
@Spiff17 (220):
I saw the live action Tick, but I barely remember it. It didn’t last long, and I didn’t feel it was as good as the cartoon. That’s all I remember.
238 Larsson
December 10th, 2009 at 11:50 am
to make the underside of you tung “spit” do as it says above But before that, rub the underside of you tung on you teeth ( Lower jaw ) that worked for me and alot of other people =)
239 tinky
December 10th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
we should have gleek committees all through out the country.
“And let the meeting begin.” *gleek, gleek, gleek, gleek…*
240 gabi319
December 10th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
@lo (221):
good episode.
Just watched that Colbert Report!
241 zach
December 10th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Quoting from number 15 of this list:
“James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher.”
Thank you for sharing. This one helps me on my career. I am truly appreciated.
242 mar
December 10th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Regarding #2: I can gleek at will, as easily as I breath, and not only that, but I can follow up my gleek by rolling a small saliva bubble up onto the tip of my tongue and gently blowing it off into the air, to float away a few yards and pop on some surface, leaving a tiny wet mark. I taught myself to do this along with several classmates back in 4th grade, and we used the technique to annoy our teacher and each other. (Particularly annoying when a ‘gleek bubble’ lands on your cheek while you are struggling to concentrate on a pop quiz.)
243 littlemisscurious
December 10th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
gleeking is easy man. all u have to do is trick your mind. Imagine urself biting into a fresh lemon…and u will automatically gleek.
244 Yondofan12
December 10th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
I have indeed mastered the art of gleeking. To the dismay of all my friends. With a 7 foot range and the choice of either a buckshot or single stream, some call me the “Most Dangerous Man Alive”
245 astraya
December 10th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
My experience with the linking R in Australian English is that my students just don’t understand it, so I am careful to separate words where it might happen.
I haven’t heard this, but I read a letter a couple of days ago that the new national Leader of the Opposition Mr Abbott is being referred to inadvertently by many as “MrRabbit”.
246 Yondofan12
December 10th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
@astraya (245): The opposition to what?
247 gleeker
December 10th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I gleek everyday. Even on my friends!
I love gleeking
248 FlameHorse
December 10th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
James, while John had had “had,” had had “had had;” “had had” had had a better effect on the teacher.
249 Trisha
December 10th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
The gleeking effect in the tongue is somthing that I can do, I used to do it to my sister when she irritated me and it would make her shut up because she had to leave to wipe the spit off her. However in order to do it you have to keep your mouth moist and push into the glands by just moving spit around under your tongue (while the mouth is closed) Its actually pretty funny if a person reacts right to it.
250 evilk8
December 10th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
I gleeked on my dental nurse at primary school during a dental session. I laughed about it due to nerves. Surfice to say she was not happy. Pity she had the drill.
251 chuck
December 10th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
If you rake the top of your tongue on the back of your bottom teeth with your mouth closed, then try to “gleek”, it seems to work more often. My brother used to hold me down and basically “water torture” me with gleeking. I practiced it and can now do it on command. lol
252 DoctorAnoose!
December 11th, 2009 at 12:36 am
mwahahaha
253 saber25
December 11th, 2009 at 5:13 am
Hey I already tried the “Gleeking” thing which one time I was repeatedly clacking my tongue and then some saliva squirted out (like one from a whales blow-hole) and I just did that often and it comes out always! Sh*t, that picture of kampus scared the wits outta me, please Jamie, don’t agree on lists with pictures like that, I have low heart failure
254 saber25
December 11th, 2009 at 5:15 am
hehe I tried the gleeking all over again based on the instructions and not my own pace, my pc’s screen is so wet and full of the Sh*t!
255 MJFan
December 11th, 2009 at 7:34 am
haha! gleeking. i cant gleek, but i can shoot water between my two front teeth really far. I shot it across the room and hit this annoying freshman in my drama group. Then my boyfriend tried to do it…haha funny stuff! loved this list
256 Dk
December 11th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
I have a question on the Pareidolia thing. Does it refer simply to seeing something and saying “that looks like ____”? Or does it require that some significance be given to that image? For example, looking at the sky, and seeing a cloud that looks like Falcor, is that pareidolia? Or would it only be pareidolia if I assigned some significance to that image? Like “Oh, that burn mark in my toast resembles Jesus, God clearly put that mark there, it’s a miracle”
257 Dk
December 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Re-reading the description above, it feels like it refers to giving the image or whatever some meaning. It’s one thing to hear what sounds like might be “I buried Paul” in the background of a song, but it’s pareidolia when you take that supposed phrase you might be hearing, and decide it is evidence that Paul is in fact dead, and there is a look-alike going around pretending to be him. right?
258 hippie
December 11th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
great list. i gleak all the time. i discovered it after eating something sour once. about 7 or 8 years ago.
259 Randall
December 12th, 2009 at 7:14 am
@Dk (256):
Pareidolia, it’s my understanding, is pareidolia regardless of significance. If you see a stain on the floor that to you looks like a frog, then that’s pareidolia. It needn’t be something that has some meaning for you personally or anyone else.
260 your mom
December 12th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
The gaps between ‘Fish’ and ‘and’ and ‘and’ and ‘chips’ are unequal
261 your mom
December 12th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
The gaps between ‘Fish’ and ‘and’ and ‘and’ and ‘chips’ are unequal.
262 Dk
December 12th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Thanks Randall
263 astraya
December 13th, 2009 at 1:41 am
@ Yondofan12: Do some research. It’s freely available on the internet. You might learn something.
If you can’t be bothered –
The largest single political party (or bloc of parties) in the national parliament of Australia forms the government and its leader becomes the prime minister. The next largest major party forms the opposition and its leader becomes the leader of the opposition.
264 Mac Maniac
December 13th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
@jfrater (36):
I’m afraid you have the sentence wrong. It is actually “If I would have found my wallet…” which can be catractioned into “If I’d have found my wallet…”
265 segues
December 13th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
@Mac Maniac (264):…”which can be catractioned”
****
catractioned? What language is this?
266 IB Therefore IBS
December 13th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
One of my friends annoys the hell out of everyone he knows by gleeking left and right. He’s even learned to aim it, and he somehow discovered what it was called long ago.
267 mr boom
December 14th, 2009 at 12:03 am
i can actually gleek i had no idea what it actually was but i cant gleek as much as the previous comment (only like 1-2 grams)
268 iline
December 14th, 2009 at 11:47 am
krampus from the fact no. 6 is not santas helper, at least not in my culture.
in slavic culture he is associated wiht saint Nicholas. he is celabrated 6. december every year and it is custom to put shoes in the window so saint Nick can give presants and krampus some sticks.
here is a link for something more about saint Nicholas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas
p.s. sry for my bad launguage
269 gleeker
December 14th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
I can gleek til my mouth gets dry.
…………….
is it just me….?…
270 Lulu
December 14th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
heres one:
that that is is that that is not is not is that it it is
271 true vampyre
December 18th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
i know a different way to gleek, directly after yawning just put the bottom of your tongue on the roof of your mouth. after yawning don’t close ur mouth or it wont work.
272 Roxy
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:51 am
The humanoid aliens are called Annunaki and live on planet X, not that I believe this theory but it is pretty funny and you guys should go read about it, just for the fun of it!
273 zack
December 24th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
I can gleek like a moffofofo
274 Lauren
December 26th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
i can gleek on command! i live in canada and we call it leerching. i learned about 4 or 5 years ago. a friend of mine knew how to do it and i tried for about a week then i did it and i can very very easily now. i find it happens very frequently when i have a hot beverage in my mouth lol. the way you described it is the exact way you do it.. its kind of like pushing the bottom of your tongue out.. i can make it squirt about 3 or 4 feet sometimes lol kinda yucky
275 Mark Meesh
January 4th, 2010 at 7:29 am
I can gleek!!!!!
276 jerico
January 7th, 2010 at 9:09 pm
awesome!!! i just did the gleeking thing! xD
277 nicoleredz3
January 19th, 2010 at 10:32 am
Gleeking? Wow, cannot believe that. I can do it voluntarily, btw!
278 andrew
January 20th, 2010 at 9:53 am
i can gleek on command! u said to tell u guys if you can do it lol.
279 gryphon
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:00 am
Gleeking, yup I can do that on command though all I have to do is curl my tongue backwards and push the palate forward. Easy!
It works particulary well if you eat or drink something tart first.
When I was kid it was a good way to spit on someone quietly, if you blow at the same time it goes a long way. Hey I was 13 and did not realise it was a bad thing to spit on people.
Did not know it had a real name though.
280 cole
January 23rd, 2010 at 3:18 pm
I have a friend that can gleek almost ten feet at will. let me tell you from first hand experience it is amazing
281 Jonny white
January 29th, 2010 at 9:12 am
Ive been able to gleek at a very younge age and never knew what it was or how i was doing it until i read this. I used to call it my “viper spit” and it was my party trick. I never knew it was this rare tho haha good stuff!
282 Jeffrey 3000
January 29th, 2010 at 5:42 pm
my friends and i can gleek, its weired only one person in our group can’t. i guess its a trait
283 K-RAWK
January 30th, 2010 at 4:39 pm
i can gleek very well and your description how to do it is spot on lol
284 Jen
February 1st, 2010 at 3:44 pm
I never even knew what gleeking was or that it was supposed to be difficult to accomplish. I’ve always been able to do it whenever I wanted to. You learn something new every day O.O
285 Anthony
February 5th, 2010 at 5:22 pm
My friend can gleek whenever he wants. He just presses his tongue on his bottom teeth. It’s nasty.
286 Kat
February 13th, 2010 at 3:59 pm
I’ve always been able to gleek too, I didn’t know it was supposed to be difficult but now that you’ve told me I can’t stop doing it!!! It’s like manual breathing, once you’re told about breathing you can’t go back to manually breathing because you’re thinking about breathing!
287 Red
April 10th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Gleeking…
i’ve seen people doing this, had a friend that knew how to do it
and actually i managed to do it once
288 egyptian
April 24th, 2010 at 10:56 am
I can gleek and I learnt in a matter of days after my friend showed me how.
289 killa
May 4th, 2010 at 1:44 pm
re:gleeking we used to call this the cobra(spitting cobra) the key to it is to draw your tounge upwards untill u feel some spit come out of the gland underneath then push down as fast as u can the slower u draw your tounge up the more savliva u draw and the faster u push it down the farther it will go
290 Pops
May 19th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
gleeking is easy!!:)
291 mary
May 24th, 2010 at 6:22 pm
i can gleek!!! ive been able to for a while its fun to freak people out with it!
292 Sola
June 1st, 2010 at 11:24 pm
293 skxawng
July 11th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
My elder brother used to gleek a lot back when we were kids but I haven't seen him do it now that we've grown up.