Use these 10 facts (or are they officially factlets yet?) at your next party or office meeting and you’ll be guarantied an argument. People will insist that you’re wrong because, “Everyone knows…” Incidentally, I use number 2 when I teach logic to get students to discuss the nature of truth.
The error: Franklin Roosevelt’s “New Deal” was not built upon the ideas on John Maynard Keynes.
I put this one first since it is probably the most open to dispute.
Marriner Eccles was a prominent banker who saved his family bank from ruin when the Depression hit. It was he who told the Senate in 1933 that the key to stopping the Depression was spending. Roosevelt later rewarded Eccles with the chairmanship of the Federal Reserve and he wrote the Banking Act of 1935, a post he held for fourteen years. In honor of his work, the headquarters of the Federal Reserve is housed in the Eccles Building.
Although Keynes’ papers had been around in some form for the three years before the New Deal, the evidence indicates it was not a major influence on national economies until 1936. Keynes work during the Depression consisted primarily with unemployment as a function of savings and investments (1930) and public spending (1933). His book “General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money” did not come out until 3 years after Eccles’ testimony and the New Deal had started.
The error: Prince Charles will not be Charles III when he assumes England’s throne
It has been officially denied (imagine talking about what name you’ll have when your mum dies), but it is believed by many sources based on reports from Charles’ friends that he will take George VII as his regnal name when he assumes the throne. There are many theories as to why with the two most popular being: Charles is an unlucky name for English monarchs (Charles I was deposed and Charles II very nearly so) and that George is to honor his grandfather George VI.
The error: The 18th Amendment to the Constitution (Prohibition) did not outlaw drinking.
Drinking alcohol was never outlawed – only making, transporting, and selling it. Liquor could legally be consumed provided it was purchased before Prohibition. If you want to get pedantic about it, the 18th Amendment did not even outlaw that. It was the Volstead Act that implemented Prohibition that made making, transporting and selling alcohol illegal. The 21st Amendment would later repeal this amendment but still make it illegal to transport alcohol in areas where it was still banned (so-called “dry counties”).
From time to time, the 18th/21st Amendment still is the basis for lawsuits between a state and the federal government. For example, in South Dakota v. Dole (1987), South Dakota claimed that the federal government’s national minimum drinking age of 21 was a violation of the 21st Amendment but the federal government’s position was upheld 7-2 under the Tax and Spend clause.
The error: Paul Revere did not ride all the way to Concord on 16 April 1775 to warn American Minutemen that the English army was invading. And Charles Dawes didn’t finish the ride either.
Dr. Joseph Warren sent Paul Revere and Charles Dawes to Concord to warn John Hancock and Samuel Adams of the invasion and soon met Dr. Samuel Prescott returning home from an evening out. All three were soon captured by the British, but Dawes and Prescott (not Revere) quickly escaped. Some say that Dawes was then thrown from his horse and had to walk back to Lexington but others claim after the escape he was lost and had to ride back to Lexington. Of the three, only Prescott finished the ride all of the way to Concord.
The error: Abraham Lincoln was not a Republican when he won the 1864 election.
By changing the name of his party to “National Union Party”, Lincoln was able to court Copperhead (War Democrat) voters who would never vote Republican. More than just a name change, he selected the only southern Democrat senator not to resign his seat , Andrew Johnson, to run as vice-president. Despite a convention to raise support for mid-term elections, the Republicans in the party joined the ranks of the radicals. By March of 1867, Johnson was the only Unionist in office that had not defected and it became a splinter group of the Democratic Party although ironically the Republicans kept the name of National Union Republicans for a while and consider it part of their lineage.
The error: American colonists did not protest the Tea Tax with the Boston Tea Party because it raised the price of tea.
The American colonists preferred Dutch tea to English tea. The English Parliament placed an embargo on Dutch tea in the colonies, so a huge smuggling profession developed. To combat this, the English government LOWERED the tax on tea so that the English tea would be price competitive with Dutch teas. The colonists (actually some colonists led by the chief smugglers) protested by dumping the tea into Boston Harbor.
The error: Robert Fulton’s famous steamship was not named the Clermont.
All of the official records list the boat as North River Steam Boat and even Fulton called it the North River. A later biographer accidentally called it the Clermont, which was the city it was berthed at. There were other steamboats before the North River and but like many inventors, Fulton is given credit because he made the first practical one. His boat ferried passengers on the New York City/Albany run and usually took all day including an overnight stop. Two side note: the engine for the North River was built by another famous inventor who took an existing idea and made it practical – James Watt. Also, Fulton built a working submarine and called it the Nautilus.
The error: The US President that dealt with the Great Depression by asking employers to reduce profits and not lower wages, promoted public works programs, and creating the Reconstruction Finance Corporation was not Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Despite the fact that he started federal programs that were the precursor of the New Deal, President Herbert Hoover never really felt that the Depression would last as long as it did. Many people felt that Hoover was uncaring of the plight of the poor; however Hoover was independently wealthy before entering politics and gave all of his government checks to charity. He believed in charity as his work in Europe during and after World War I shows and when he became Secretary of Commerce in the United States he worked to foster ties between business and government to improve service throughout the nation. Herein lies the fundamental problem that Hoover had with dealing with the Depression; when the Great Depression hit, he counted on the generosity of all Americans to help the country through and unfortunately, he was sadly mistaken.
It’s interesting to note that in Barack Obama’s current handling of the Recession, he is more like Hoover than Roosevelt including counting on banks to increase loans (which they were hesitant to do for both Hoover and Obama) and running deficit spending (it was campaigning against deficit spending that helped Roosevelt win the presidency in 1932).
The error: Joan of Arc was not convicted of heresy.
Joan denied all of the heresy charges and she was never convicted of that crime despite the many traps the prosecution laid for her. During the trial, a prosecutor made a off-hand question and asked if it was true that she dressed like a man during battles. Seeing no harm in telling the truth, she replied yes and this was enough to seal her doom. This transvestism violated Deuteronomy 22:5 and was enough for the court to convict her of violating God’s Law and since that particular law carries a death penalty, she was burned at the stake.
Great care was made to give the appearance of a trial in accordance with canon law, but many aspects, including the official record, were fraudulent. Pope Callixtus III reopened the trail and she was exonerated and Bishop Pierre Cauchon castigated for using a religion court to settle a secular dispute.
The error: In the Old Testament of The Bible, “Lucifer” does not refer to the fallen angel.
“Lucifer” (light-bearer)is a generic title referring to the morning star (Venus). As such, it has been used throughout history to refer to Satan, Christ, and others. With this in mind, Isaiah 14:12 starts out “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”. Taken as a separate verse, this appears to refer to the battle of angels – however, the PASSAGE starts at Isaiah 12:4 “Thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon” and towards the end is Isaiah 14:22 “For I will rise up against them saith the Lord of hosts, and cut of from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, Saith the Lord.” Thus Lucifer in the Old Testament refers to some unnamed Babylonian king.






























@ames801 (118): A breast beats out a leg, every time. OO
See? Checking out the o’s there, aren’t you?
Let me guess, your a history teacher
@oouchan (122): HA! Honestly, I flaunt it all
The list is good and interesting to a number of people. I am an American and I too enjoy some of the lists that have to do with America, but I also enjoy the lists that have nothing to do with America. The point is that sometimes you like the list and other times you don’t but don’t use the comments to complain that the lists are “too american” or not about your specific country.
…charles is a good name, means chalani(N)=charlar(sp)=
chatty, tinkling of glasses, talk not sing=chayan(jap)=
tea house=chaikhana(afghan), chava(mex slang)=girl=
chauatl(N)=concubine, but really means=chat owner=mistress, whom charles finally married.
@oouchan (122): OO
That’s really a nice pair of O’s you’ve got going on there oouchan. Top notch.
@ames801 (124): @oouchan (122):
Randall is now envisioning both ames and oouchan summoning him *together,* good sports that they are, so that we can have a little “discussion” between the three of us.
@Randall (128): I need a drink for this.
@ames801 (129):
s’okay honey, I’ll bring plenty.
@oouchan (122): I thought it worked more like Beetlejuice….
bOObs…bOObs…bOObs….
…122, you have something there, mag. i’ve always been
fonder of girls who allowed me to score first and enter-tain later, makes for a more relaxed audience. let’s have
a campaign to encourage them in this delightful reversal
of courtship. it should sweep the nation and eliminate
prevarication. as jack webb said, just the (bare) facts,
ma’am.
@USA sucks (96): Is that so? Ever been here? Ever enjoy the movies, tv shows, and music that comes from here? Ever eat a hamburger? You’re using a computer and the internet and you probably use electric lights, dental floss, microwaves, clothes hangers, electric irons, radios, zippers, air conditioning, automatic transmissions, cell phones, barcodes, LEDs, CDs, lasers, and digital cameras, which are all American inventions. So take a minute and think before you comment and show everyone what a closed minded turd you are.
I’d like to weigh in with my support for more boobage.
@USA sucks:
Pot
Kettle
Black
…
Ignorant
Racist
You
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Oh…and I am pro-boobs.
@JTBT (14): I agree with you. It is very confusing to write “The error:” then proceed to write what the true fact is.
You know, not everyone knows it, but General Tits worked his way up through the ranks the hard way, and he should be applauded. He didn’t start out as “Cadet Tits” at West Point after a cushy life on the Cape—like some people here I could mention—and then stumbled his way into one nepotistic promotion after another. No way. He started out as Private First Class Pierced Nipple, and busted his… errr… tits… to become Lieutenant Tits, then Captain Tits, Major Tits… all the way up to his present rank, which while honorary, is still one hell of an accomplishment.
Maggot, meanwhile, is still going door to door selling urine. And I still don’t *get* that. Who the hell buys urine? Okay, sure, the drug test crowd, I get it… but is that *really* a way to make a living?
We should all work as hard as General Tits. Life rewards you when you do.
I mean, we can’t all be bucslim, whose grandfather invented Beaver Ass Juice, and he’s been living off the estate ever since.
So I salute you General Tits. Today’s List Universe Example for the Children. (Our last one was Frater, but his repeated arrests on various public indecency charges have really started to compromise his standing).
@Forsythia (136): Oh…and I am pro-boobs.
I tend to prefer the ones that have maintained their amateur status. With all due respect, the professionals are kind of icky.
@Randall (138): Maggot, meanwhile, is still going door to door selling urine.
It’s lonely at the bottom.
@USA sucks (96): Honestly, do you realize how asinine you sound?
Gotdammned retarts. And they left off the Danish translation of Dazed and Confused. Sheesh.
And ames801? If you want Randall to come snooping around all you have to do is say how awesome George Bush was and that Obama is half witted knob with the brains of a turtleneck sweater. He’ll come a runnin! It’s like hookin catfish with rotten meat!
Yup, the ignorant comments are really ruining this site. About 25% of the comments are actually about the list while the others are just from whiney bastards trying to feel superior while sitting behind their keyboards.
@bucslim (142): He’ll come a runnin!
Wow, that’s way easier than the lengthy procedure that he outlined. And for some reason, he always ignores me whenever I try flashing a little leg, as ames801 had suggested.
@Tryclyde (143):
How superior do you feel right now?
@bucslim (142):
Must you drag politics into *everything?* What about the children?
@Maggot (144):
Randall does not respond to hairy, scarred legs where one is shorter than the other. Sorry. I gotta be me.
@Ricky Bobby (145): I would respond to you, but your retort makes no sense.
@Ziraphen (38): I think a list about Australia would be awsome! The reason I’m on this site is to learn something new. Also, for the people complaning about the “too american” list, write a list about where your from and please teach us all some thing we did know about it. I for one would love to read it.
@Tryclyde (147):
Makes perfect sense actually, you were whining about other people whining, and I’m sure you felt pretty superior after doing that.
Joan of Arc WAS burnt because we thought she was a witch. We couldn`t believe that a woman was defeating us, and so it was assumed she was a witch. And-I`m no sadist-but I think it`s one of the few things we did right. Joan of Arc, she was a religious fundamentalist, in the mould of al Qaeda. She claimed that she heard voices from God, and said “all English who enter France must die.” And, as we all know, people who think there doing the work of God, there clearly crazy. Plus, Vichy France, used her as their symbol. So getting rid of someone that Nazis admired, is clearly a good thing!
This list is terrible and i hate it more than i hate myself.
@lucy (71): I guess it should be more correctly stated as “A Too USA” list?
@Randall (138): Well thank you. I’ll try to learn from JFs mistakes and keep my clothes on in public.
@Saint Cad (114):
Except that in 1603 King James VI of Scotland was proclaimed the King of England combining the crowns, which later replaced those titles with that of “King of Great Britain”. Elizabeth II does not currently have nor was she crowned with the title “Queen of England” but has the title (amongst many others) “Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”.
Computers – Charles Babbage, Ada Lovelace,
Radio – Guglielmo Marconi
TV – John Logie Baird
WWW – Tim Berners-Lee
Many things – Nikola Tesla
azrael28 (148): Ok, putting something togther now. Will send it and see if it gets posted! Hmm… give me a few days.
On an unrelated topic, can someone please tell me how to do the link to the comment above? Where you put the number of their post, and it becomes a link? Thanks.
Astraya (155): Thank for putting that up. And thanks for mentioning Ada Lovelace! No one ever rememebers her! (Did you know she was Lord Byron’s daughter?!)
@Ziraphen (156): Click on the person’s name in the post you want to reply to, and it loads that link into the comment box for you.
@Ziraphen (156): Click on the username of the post you wish to reference to.
It automatically posts into the text box with the post number high-lighted as a link.
Oh hi Maggot…Shall we dance?
the list sucks… too american
@Ricky Bobby (149): Keep trying, you’re a few posts away from actually making a valid argument.
@astraya (155):
Thanks for posting that. But I fear Scott will ignore it. A while back I posted a similar response to a near identical comment by him, but seemingly it fell on deaf ears.
@deeeziner (160): Only if you have little regard for the continued health and safety of your toes!
I LOVE that picture on #1. That is an awesome depiction.
@astraya (155): Yawyack (163): Oh my God, who cares?!
@General Tits Von Chodehoffen (133):
I really have to correct your insane assumptions regarding the good ol USA and ensure you realise that the turd you so eloquently refer too is actually you and all Americans who believe that you invented everything:
1: The Computer – the modern “thinking machine” was invented by Charles Babbage, this is generally the first modern use of a computer and is where all other research has come from – Charles Babbage – English
2: Television – in its modern form was invented by John Logie Baird – Scotland
A young German man, just 20 years old at the time in the 1880′s, called Paul Gottlieb Nipkow is probably the real progenitor of this medium of entertainment
3: Movies – first postulated by Alhazen (Egyptian) in his Book of Optics in 1021, I am guessing that is a bit before your time and in fact the discovery (re: the finding of a land already inhabited by Native Americans) of America. This was later perfected by Italian Giambattista della Porta in the early 1600′s and the first true motion picture, Roundhay Garden Scene, was produced by Louis Le Prince who was French in 1888
4: Music – I am going to guess that you do not want to argue that the USA invented music
5: Microwaves and LASER’s – Again this is a very simple answer, Einstein laid the foundations for LASER and MASER technologies in the paper Zur Quantentheorie der Strahlung (On the Quantum Theory of Radiation). So German invention and this came via Max Planck’s law of radiation.
This field was further expanded by Rudolf W. Ladenburg and Valentin A. Fabrikant before Theodore Maiman created the first working LASER using other peoples experiments.
6: Compact Discs – invented by Phillips (Netherlands) and then to their modern counterpart by a collaboration between Sony (Japan) and Phillips
7: Clothes Hangers – god what would I have done if these hadnt been invented, oh thats right I would have just hung my clothes up in my wardrobe
8: LED – Electroluminescence discovered by Briton H. J. Round and the first working LED was invented by Russian Oleg Vladimirovich Losev in 1927
9: Cell Phones – forget US Patents applied to simple radio phones, that is not true Cell Phone technology.
True mobile technology 1960 by Ericsson (Sweden)
1G mobile phones NTT (Japan) 1979.
2G mobile phones Radiolinja (Finland) 1991
3G mobile phones NTT DoCoMo (Japan) 2001
As for good ol USA A patent for the first wireless phone as we know today was issued in US Patent Number 3,449,750 to George Sweigert of Euclid, Ohio on June 10, 1969. That is only 9 years after Ericsson with the same technology
10: Automatic Transmissions – first postulated by Leonardo da Vinci (Italian) in 1490 as a continuously variable transmission. First patent filed in Europe in 1886
11: Zipper – while an American invention it was perfected by Gideon Sundback a Swede
12: Digital Camera – the American’s developed the Charge Coupled Device (CCD) and didnt know what to do with it. The first true *****og digital camera, as used to take over from film loaded camera’s, was the Sony (Japan) Mavica of 1981
The first true digital camera was the Fuji (Japan) DS-1P of 1988
13: Air Conditioner – well damn if the Ancient Romans didnt have air conditioning circulating through their houses and Ding Huan a Chinese inventor of the second century AD added a fan in to the mix
14: Electric Iron – all the Americans did was add an electric element to a product that has been in use for over 4000 years. Its a bloody hot smooth piece of metal, just now it has an electric element.
15: Dental Floss – great invention by the US. Dental hygiene not so much an American invention
16: The Internet – yep American as apple pie, oh wait a minute didnt it gain a public face using the CERN World Wide Web protocol? And wasnt the actual web (the internet not its TCP controls) invented by British scientist Tim Berners-Lee in 1989
17: Electric Light – unfortunately it wasnt invented by Edison, he perfected it. It was first shown using a strip of platinum by Humphry Davy (British) in 1802 and incidentally he also invented the arc lamp in 1810
I rest my case. Please feel free to come back at me if you can disprove any of this. Patents mean nothing, they are just the first past the post in a typically American capitalist way. Inspiration and humility on the other hand are qualities sadly lacking with Americans and that is why you get this backlash.
Have a good day ye’all
@Maggot (158): @deeeziner (159): Woot! Thanks guys.
It doesn’t take much to make Randall “come”, does it?
Far Far too American based for my liking
@Re-Ali (166):
I do obviously
great list!
Dear #38. What gives you the right to bad-mouth Australia. If you took the time you would realise that Australians are one of the most resourceful and innovative nationalities on earth. You are living up to your reputation of being arrogant. Well, newsflash mate, you’re not nearly as good as you think. I dare you to come down here and say what you said to an Australians face. You would have your head knocked off before you knew it.
@Ziraphen (38): I agree with @azrael28 (148): Please write a list about Australia, I’d love to read it and know that others are learning about this great country of ours.
@tasmanian devil (173): I think you misread Ziraphen’s comment. He/she wasn’t badmouthing Australia, just saying that if he/she wrote a list about Australia people who are not from Australia would say the same kind of comment as when the list is all about the USA, you know, “This list is too Australian”. You could substitute the country’s name with another other country and it would mean the same thing. From what Ziraphen wrote I think he/she is Australian.
@ Blue (167)
I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Regarding the guy with the ears:
I believe that when, or if, Charles becomes King, he gets to choose and of his Christian names, those being Charles Philip Arthur George. So, he could be King Arthur if he wants, which would be pretty cool.
@Blue (167):
That was a pretty impressive smack down. Well done.
@USA sucks (96):
Since when did New Zealand float 2000km north into the tropics? It couldn’t even be classified as sub-tropical.
I’ve had many ideas for Australian lists, but then I think that they’d be too limited for general use. I’ve just had a Really Good Idea for an Australian list, if I can get the time to research and write it.
@Randall (146): “I gotta be me.”
Must you *always* drag got into this
Great List! I am American so I may be biased, but would love to see a list of Australian 10 fascinating facts that are wrong (or even 7/10).
BTW -God is Good!
@Blue (167):I didn’t say we invented film or television, that was a different sentence. As for the inventions I’m not going to sit here and get into a *****ing contest about who invented “the first” or “the first modern” whatever. If you want to deny America’s importance in the scientific world be my guest. You are just as bad as “USA sucks” by negatively categorizing a huge country. Let me point out it is not the Americans trashing other countries. By the way are you British?