Christianity has been around for two thousand years and, for the most part, it has preached a good message by which to live. But unfortunately, as with all organized bodies, many people claiming to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ have shown themselves to behave quite opposite to the message it espouses. This list looks at 10 of the worst.
He is the founder of the Unification Church, which has become worldwide since its origin in 1954. Moon was born in 1920, and has set himself up at the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. A lot of people go around saying, “I’m Jesus,” but they are usually dismissed as insane or seeking attention.
Moon has convinced anywhere from several hundred thousand to one million people to join his church and consider him “Jesus reincarnated.” Moon is vehemently opposed to homosexuality, and yet he makes the common mistake of hating them, spewing rage at them, instead of trying of forgiving and trying to convert them from the sin. Such hateful opposition does nothing but galvanize the offended party to continue as it is. Christians must be in the business of saving souls, not assisting their damnation.
He is extremely anti-Semitic, and his entire church with him, championing the Holocaust as divine vengeance against the Jews, because they did not support Jesus, and this brought about his murder by the Roman government.
And none of that mentions Moon’s extraordinarily lavish lifestyle. Modern church founders typically make a lot of money founding churches. Jesus didn’t make one cent. Moon has been known to spend $2,000 a day, and give his children as much as $50,000 monthly allowances. His “True Family’s” home is a huge mansion on 18 acres in Irvington, NY, with 12 bedrooms, a dining room replete with pond and waterfall, 7 bathrooms, a bowling alley, and that’s not counting the mansions in Korea, England, Scotland, Germany, thoroughbred horses for the kids, private tutors, Ferraris, motorcycles, and blank checks to take on their vacations, first-class of course.
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
The funniest part is that he was convicted of tax fraud and served 18 months in prison. Remember the fish Jesus told Peter to catch? It had two coins in its mouth, one for each of them, to pay the tax? “Render therefore unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and unto God what is God’s.” Even Jesus paid taxes.
Vernon Wayne Howell was a handsome, charismatic Texan, considered so poor a student in elementary and middle school that he was enrolled in special ed classes. He memorized the New Testament by 11, and impregnated a 15 year old when he was 19. He must have forgotten a few verses.
By 1983, after being kicked out of a 7th Day Adventist Church for fooling around with the pastor’s daughter, he began calling himself a prophet. He was able to recruit followers because of his good looks and magnetic personality, eventually proclaiming himself Jesus Christ, “the Son of God, the Lamb who could open the seven seals.” He taught that monogamy was the only proper relationship, but that polygamy was perfectly fine for him, and him alone, and quickly had sex with Karen Doyle, called her his second wife, after his first died, and proceeded to have sex with as many as 140 different women.
Karen Doyle did not get pregnant, probably because she was 14 years old, so he slept with Michele Jones, 12 years old. By proclaiming this God’s will, he was able to have sex with any woman or girl whenever he liked. He tried to gun down George Roden, who was also a high ranking member of Koresh’s sect, and escaped conviction by mistrial.
By the time of the Waco Siege, he had, by his own admission, fathered at least 12 children, some by girls as young as 12. And the followers just kept coming. To be honest, the FBI seriously botched the siege, and used unnecessary force, but Koresh was the primary culprit of his followers’ deaths, 82 of them, by fire. Which side started the fire is hotly disputed and will never be known, but Koresh told his followers, “Don’t move until you see God.”
They didn’t see God before they burned alive, Koresh with them.
He’s worse than the previous two because he doesn’t even know how to lie convincingly. He swears that “the spirit of God comes mightily upon [him]” and enables him to leg press 2,000 pounds, though he is 79 years old. This claim has been thoroughly debunked by weightlifting experts, and yet he persists in claiming and not proving it.
He has claimed to be able to deflect hurricanes by praying to God, and stated that Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for abortion throughout America (not for Mardi Gras, which would be a little more understandable), thus showing that he did not pray for Katrina’s deflection. He believes that 9/11 and Katrina might be divinely connected.
Most recently, he denounced Haiti after the January 12, 2010 earthquake, stating that Haiti deserved what it was getting because it swore a pact with the Devil back in 1791, in order to drive out the French. Whether that pact was sworn or not, his comments were obviously intended to inflame and hurt, and they did so. How Christian of him. He was roundly denounced by most Christian denominations, and still refuses to retract what he said.
He predicted Doomsday in 1982. Ronald Reagan came close, I guess. He predicted a Pacific Northwestern tsunami in 2006, then a terrorist attack on American soil sometime in 2007. He defended this last failure by stating, “All I can think is that somehow the people of God prayed and God, in his mercy, spared us.” He has made many other predictions, none of which has come true.
He has many times called for the destruction of Islam and all its followers, not for their conversion to Christianity. he calls Islam “satanic.” He calls Hinduism “demonic.” He even claims some Protestant Christian denominations as harboring the spirit of the Antichrist. He has made quite a few anti-Semitic remarks, notably about Ariel Sharon, the former PM of Israel, whose stroke and vegetative state Robertson calls “an act of God.”
Hale is currently serving 40 years in prison for attempting to solicit the murder of Judge Joan Lefkow. Not a very model preacher. But actually, he calls himself the Pontifex Maximus of the Creativity Movement, which is just another offshoot from the Ku Klux Klan. The church is for whites only, and it has its own bible, in which one finds passages such as, “You have no alibi, no other way out, white man! Fight or die!”
His church calls for a worldwide, racial holy war, to exterminate the Jews and all black people, in order to establish “a white world.” His reasoning: God is white; God created the Jews and black people to test the faith and resolve of white people; thus, killing a Jew or black person is not a sin. After one of his followers, Benjamin N. Smith, committed a deadly shooting spree, targeting only minorities, Hale “defended” his actions on TV by saying, “We do urge hatred. If you love something, you must hate that which threatens it.” He is on audio tape laughing about the shootings and imitating the sounds of gunfire.
Bray is not an ordained or college-educated minister, but he does preach a lot about abortion. He served 46 months of a 10 year sentence for conspiring to bomb 10 abortion clinics in Maryland, Virginia, and Washington D. C. He and his wife stand firmly on the Bible as the inerrant Word of God, and that because it preaches so firmly against homosexuality and adultery, then upon being convicted of either in a court of law, the guilty party should be put to death. Even though American courts of law have no problem with either. They might be sins, but they aren’t felonies.
Bray didn’t exactly help the Christian cause of conversion by allowing Richard Dawkins, the most famous atheist in the world, to interview him for a show called “The Root of All Evil.” Bray was thoroughly outmatched, of course, and made Christianity look like…well, the root of all evil.
He is now out of prison and living in Wilmington, Ohio, officially labeled as a terrorist.
Hill was a trained and ordained minister of the Presbyterian Church, but the church excommunicated him in 1993 for taking such a militant stand against abortion, and for becoming a member of the Army of God, a Christian terrorist, anti-abortion organization.
This ordained minister finally let his anger get the best of him when he traveled to Pensacola, Florida on July 29, 1994, to an abortion clinic, and murdered one of the doctors, and his bodyguard, point-blank with shotgun blasts. He wounded the bodyguard’s wife. Then he calmly put down the shotgun in the grass and sat and waited for the police.
He was executed. The law does not permit vigilante justice. And come to think of it, “Love thine enemies,” seems a fair argument against it also.
And if you thought the last several entries were weirdos, Applewhite has gone down in history as a true psychopath. Born May 17, 1931, he proclaimed himself a prophet in 1972, and then, as they all seem to do, proclaimed himself Jesus Christ reincarnated. He was not as handsome as #9, but he wasn’t exactly ugly, either, was married, and seemed for all the world to be “blameless and upright before God.”
Followers flocked to his forceful charisma, when he told them that UFOs were coming to take them away to Heaven. When the UFOs didn’t show, the followers left, but he kept preaching to various friends and their acquaintances, and by 1975 acquired a following of 93 men, women and children.
He eventually recruited people from all 50 states, and settled in Rancho Santa Fe, California. His wife died of cancer in 1985, and sometime between then and 1997, he had a nurse surgically castrate him, for purification. He called his church “Heaven’s Gate.” His congregation worshiped him fervently.
On March 19, 1997, as the comet Hale-Bopp was passing Earth, Applewhite recorded himself preaching to his congregation that suicide “was the only way to evacuate this earth.” His congregation did not believe in suicide, but was so enamored with him, that 39 members took his word for it, and on March 24, 25, and 26, they killed themselves with mixtures of phenobarbitol and applesauce, followed by vodka. They also put plastic bags over their heads to be sure of asphyxiating, in case the poison didn’t work.
Applewhite’s idea was to die so his spirit would ascend to the UFO following Hale-Bopp, which would then take him and his followers to another plane, both physical and spiritual.
But that’s nothing compared to the 909 people, 276 of them children, who became enamored with the handsome charismatic founder of the Peoples Temple. James Warren Jones started out Methodist, and seemed to have fine intentions, endeavoring to bring about civil right for blacks and integrate American society. Somewhere along the line, he went patently insane. He was an aggressive narcissist, just as entries 1, 4, 7, 8, 9, and 10. He never claimed to be the reincarnation of Jesus Christ, and the only reason he founded the Peoples Temple was for the money he could make via his congregation.
The strangest part is that his followers were not hopeless runaways or uneducated and uninformed. They were predominantly members of other Christian denominations, Methodism, Presbyterianism, Disciples of Christ, etc. They were taken in by his good looks and charm, and his ability to lead and convince.
n 1974, the Temple went to Guyana, with only 50 members. But Jones promised others back in the States a tropical paradise, and they flocked by the hundreds to “Jonestown.” Because he had always been an outspoken communist sympathizer, and intended Jonestown to be a socialist save haven, he drew the attention of the U. S. Government.
On November 17, 1978, investigating claims of abuse within the Temple, California congressman Leo Ryan went to Jonestown, and about 15 members wanted to leave with him. They attempted to depart via a nearby airstrip, and were fired upon by Temple security guards. Ryan was killed, along with four others, one a Temple member.
When the shooters returned to Jonestown, Jones and accomplices were preparing a mass suicide by poisoning: Flavor Aid loaded with cyanide, phenergan, Valium and chloral hydrate.
There are graphic pictures of the dead lying en masse outside the pavilion, 909 of them. The children were probably not told that the drink was poisoned.
Jones shot himself in the head.
Father Charles Edward Coughlin was a priest who used the radio to acquire a large audience for his political and religious propaganda. He was born in 1891, and one of the first to use modern technology to mass communicate for such a purpose.
He started out innocently enough, using radio to decry the KKK for burning crosses on his church grounds, but ten years later, in 1936, he started praising and defending both Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini for their politics, and spewing some of the most despicable virulence against Jews to which the world had borne witness up to that point.
He blamed the Great Depression on “an international conspiracy of Jewish bankers,” then blamed Communism, the Russian 1917 Revolution, and Marxist atheism on “global Jewry, in its attempt to lead people astray from the perfection of Lord Jesus.”
He plagiarized a speech by Goebbels, then delivered it himself in a rally in the Bronx, September 13, 1935, giving the “Hitler salute.” And this is what he said. This is what Father Charles E. Coughlin, SJ. said, “When we get through with the Jews in America, they’ll think the treatment they received in Germany was nothing.”
He acquired thousands of followers, who chanted things like, “Wait until Hitler gets over here!” Coughlin was linked with a group that attempted to overthrow the U. S. Government, after which he was abandoned by most. He still refused to change his politics, and fought a series of radio duels with Unitarian Walton Cole, who wanted the Catholic Church to put an end to Coughlin’s vitriol.
F. D. Roosevelt himself was the man who shut Coughlin up for good, when the latter started railing against the New Deal. The courts ruled that the 1st Amendment did not apply to radio, and Coughlin’s license was revoked. This forced him to pay for his own air time, which he could not do for long.
On May 1, 1942, the Archbishop of Detroit, Most Rev. Edward Mooney, ordered Coughlin to stop his political activities and confine himself to his duties as a parish priest, warning that he would be defrocked if he refused. Coughlin complied and remained the pastor of the Shrine of the Little Flower until retiring in 1966. He died in 1979, at 88 years old, still publishing inflammatory articles against Judaism and Communism.
He has 13 children, 4 of whom have disowned him and their other 9 siblings. Those 4 children, two men and two women, have denounced the man himself as “a vitrolic, megalomaniacal sadistic psychopath.” I can’t phrase it better than that, and yet, it still does not fully capture the personality of this man. Ordinarily, the lister should remain aloof from the list, but in this case, except for his congregation, which officially numbers 71, 60 of whom are Phelps’s relatives, it is highly doubtful if anyone else on the planet agrees with, or even slightly supports, Phelps’s savage, barbaric perversion of Christianity and its founder. So I don’t feel quite so bad about being biased.
His “ministry” at the Westboro Baptist Church, which he founded, in Topeka, Kansas, is based almost entirely on anti-homosexuality, which is one of the easiest, if not the easiest, sin to denounce by means of quoting the Bible. God condemns homosexuality at least twice, in Leviticus, and from this principle, Phelps feels he can condemn the entire world, but especially the United States of America, the latter which he has described as a liberal hellhole that supports homosexuality. That’s a very, VERY cleaned-up paraphrase of his graphic, disgustingly profane diction.
Whereas, there are plenty of verses to quote against hatred, “Love thine enemies” just one of them, as quoted above. Phelps and his worshipers (since they certainly don’t worship Jesus) petulantly ignore these verses and enjoy themselves by hating others. It is a physical and emotional release, a pleasure just as sensual as that garnered by loving others.
He may never have begun a sentence with “God loves…” For him, sermons ought to begin with “God hates…” Most of the time that blank is filled in with homosexual slurs.
He extrapolates God’s hatred for gays to ridiculous lengths, denouncing the entire world as imminently doomed to Hell, except for…you guessed it: him and his precious few followers.
His two estranged sons have described him as “a malignant narcissist, with the same short, viciously intemperate disposition as a serial killer toward his victims.” The only reason he has not killed anyone is not because he views it as a sin, but because it would give the rest of the world more universal ground on which to stand against him. He prefers to set himself up as God on Earth, perfect and blamelessly instigatory.
His oldest daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper, has defended their actions as righteous with every word, according to the Bible, and forcing “the sinful American nation to open its mouth and condemn itself.”
He and his congregation picket at least 6 churches and political establishments around their hometown everyday, with signs that read, “God Hates F_gs,” “Thank God for Dead American Soldiers,” “America is Going to Hell,” etc. They do this for the sole purpose of offending and causing wanton emotional distress. They picket the funerals of dead soldiers, screaming at the families, even while they grieve at the gravesides, that the soldier has gone to Hell and so will they. Then they laugh. They have been sued at least once, successfully, but they successfully appealed this suit and paid nothing.
Phelps is the man responsible for sending these brainwashed fools, who revel in their own malice, across the country. He has condemned every single President, from the time he was old enough to care, as the Antichrist. He has even called President Obama “a n____r” on several occasions.






























Somebody should make an additional list
people who give:
Islam
Hebrews
Atheist
Protestants a bad name.
I will start on my end.
@Parker (11): I believe the Bible was written by God (I admit that at my own personal expense…I’ve read the comments on this board and expect to receive hatemail in my inobx seconds after I post this ;P). I think rather that it was interpreted entirely wrong by “people who claim to have known what God wants/doesn’t want”. God doesn’t dislike homo*****uals nor does the bible even remotely say that He does.
@Lauren (119): Well said…
And btw, great list!
@ianz09 (113): Thanks. And thanks to everyone else who liked it.
I would like to clarify a few things, not because I’m insulted, but because I just don’t want anyone believing incorrect facts.
I am not gay, and I am a polite, forgiving Christian, non-denominational. I am against homo*****uality on the grounds that the Bible calls it a sin, and it does. But I do not hate anyone. Hatred is thoroughly wrong, and really stupid. It doesn’t do anyone any good. If a Christian would like to rid the world of a sin, s/he must do so by love and explanation.
The 10 idiots on this list have done a quite a lot to ruin things for everyone. They have not succeeded, just made Christianity’s job a lot harder.
@tarachowski (37): heh, Doug Stanhope is brilliant. and Charlie Brooker. if only more people watched that programme…
but yeah, good list, even if i did see #1 coming from a mile away.
Interestingly; David Koresh founded his sect after returning from a trip to Jerusalem – leading some to suggest he was the victim of inflence there; either by direct mental manipulation or by-proxy through the ‘Jerusalem Syndrome’. I once saw a documentary on this ‘Jerusalem syndrome’ and I think Louis Theroux did a special on it one time (or I saw his do a peice on it during one of Micheal Moores sarcastic TV Nation episodes). It is interesting to research – in a wierd way – as more and more people claim to have ‘contracted’ it. Yeah I know it sounds like bull. May be so. But interesting perhaps.
At Parker (12) and Me (31):
Go ahead and make any excuse you want for accepting or practicing homo*****uality. The world we be a horrible place if we all just assumed the people who translated the bible were biased or lacking in facts. The fact is, modern times and what we know now has nothing to do with it. The bible condemes Homo*****uality period.
Now, I have gay friends, and I am a very forgiving Christian. I will accept anyone who is a good person… no matter what their *****ual orientation is. BUT I will not try to manipulate the bible because it annoys me personally that homo*****uality is a sin. It is… so do what you want with your life but please dont assume you know better than anyone else. God’s message is clear.
@flamehorse (124): Well said flamehorse…I’m right there with ya
Christians give Christians a bad name.
@flamehorse (124):
Can you write a list about sports or the winter olympics that are currently going on please and thank you. My lists and requests for a list have been falling on def ears and surely your list would get published.
i’m pretty sure christianity doesn’t need help giving itself a bad name
Oh what the heck, it fits in with the list so here ya go:
Yeah, it was from TV Nation.
@satan (131):
Hey pops, can I have my soul back now?
this great list was completely unexpected after all the recent drivel.
Hey Arsnl I guess you’re right about me always “schooling the commenters” I’m going to do it again – it seems I can’t help myself!
For everyone who’s been saying this one or that one should be first – this isn’t a top ten list. There is no particular order to it.
@mom424 (89): FlameHorse has a knack for coming up with interesting and controversial lists, but as far as “well written” I’m not so sure that I’d agree (sorry FlameHorse). It’s chock full of bias and homophobia. I have to agree with @Marie (83): (Although I think the Mardi Gras and Ronald Reagan comments may have been meant as jokes?)
@khatzeye (54): How heartbreaking it is for any child who’s suffered from terrible abuse. Especially when done under the name of God or religion. It makes me so grateful for my own childhood. My parents were Catholic (I am not) but they were so full of love and concern for their children. Although not a perfect upbringing, one of my parents was troubled and difficult to cope with, they did the best they could. I’m sorry your upbringing was so horrific.
Finally, people hate comments about grammar, and call those of us bothered by it “grammar Nazis”, but here again is a list sorely in need of editing. It makes it hard to read when a list hasn’t been looked over by a second party. No offense FlameHorse and Listverse. I’m quit certain my own comments contain mistakes. It must be difficult to edit a complete list every single day of the year, I wonder how other sites are able to pull it off?
@flamehorse (124): Hey sire, I just wanted to enquire..isn’t saying ‘I am against homo*****uality’ similar to saying ‘ I am against homo*****uals’ ? or suppose someone who says ‘I hate Judaism’ actually means ‘I hate Jews’?
Im an Atheist, i dont even use the word god in my own language, i prefer to say “thank crud for this and that…”. Even thought i dont care the heck of cristians, i actually think them as the worst of all main religions, i say, that all of the people on that list are/were ABSOLUTELY sick, power-ridden fools, who had no real statement on their sides whatsoever.
By the way, to all christians: Did you know, that Jesus most definetly had dark skin? He was born in Middle-East, you know.
Please add the Pearls to your list.
http://www.salon.com/life/parenting/index.html?story=/mwt/feature/2010/02/22/no_greater_joy
Phenomenal list, thank you! Sick to death of these hypocritical *****ers who continue to subvert the true message of Christ for their own worldly dominion of wealth and power. Serpents, all of them, but hey, they’ll get theirs.
@get a clue (94):
Whoa! You’re gonna make my head pop…
Dude great list. People have to be so dumb to join a cult.
@Moonbeam (135): Editing is a real pain in the butt – and I have to do it all the time in my line of work/interest. As someone said years ago maybe, the folks on the LV are unpaid ameture helpers who try to fit the LV around their often busy working and playing lives. At least we have Mom to help – and she is open and often humble about missing things. While others may say ‘What’re they moaning about?’, I can empathize that sometimes it can be hard to read things through when the mind keeps flagging up typing mistakes.
If you’re looking in Mom242, someone one said that reading the words as individual words helps. “If you read the line – you’re fired – it’s the words people read not the lines!” – or something like that. Sorry if that’s no help…
Right, I’m off.
@khatzeye (54): I’m extremely sorry for what you went through but I’m going to say this because your obvious lack of respect for people. I’m extremely offended by what you said about Christians. Frankly I don’t care whether you like me or not but to lump every single Christian into one group because of one person shows a complete lack of immaturity and respect. There’s not a single Christian I know that would ever do something like that. Has it ever crossed your mind that instead of every Christian being like that maybe she wasn’t actually a Christian at all and just pretending? Your inability to take one bad person out of a group instead lumping everyone else in with her makes you just as intolerant as some people say Christians are of other people…why should people have respect for you when you have none for others.
I am so grateful to my parents for raising me without adherence to any organized religion & without any mention of any deity, ever. I received plenty of clear, effective lessons in morality, ethics, & respect for & tolerance of those who were different in some way from me. I’ve lived a decent, peaceful, spiritual life without any need whatsoever for any middlemen between me & the grand universe of which I’m a part. No one needs them.
I think that Jim Jones should be #1 because of the amount of deaths that he caused (915 not 909). I am from Guyana and I knew some members of the People’s Temple. Jim Jones taught them to fear the Guyanese people, especially the law enforcement. They were not allowed to be friendly or to interact with any of the locals. Jim Jones’ Peoples’ Temple was located in the North Western part of Guyana which is sparsely populated and very isolated.
@Hodari (137): Ummm, yes…who wouldn’t know that and what difference does that make?
I liked the one from David Koresh:
Don’t move until you see God.
I didn’t move till I saw Him.
But God saw me and moved away.
It’s sad that anyone would confuse any of these people for Christians.
To be “Christ-like” is to love, not vomit hate out of every opening of your body.
@ZombieJulie (148): very true
@Flamehorse:
“I am against homo*****uality on the grounds that the Bible calls it a sin, and it does.”
What does being “against” it mean, exactly?
@Moonbeam (135): hey moonbeam i told you. Its a funny quirk that i like.
I am a more practical guy: i think the purpose of a religion is to make that person be better.
Also if a person doesnt understand math and invents a wrong math that doesnt mean that math is wrong and the new invented math is a new guideline. It just means that the person is stupid. Of course you could argue well we know math is right, how do we know religion is right: well cuz some people are good, some people are bad religion stays the same. (if you think of it that would be a good way to define science: some are bad at it some are good at it. That doesnt change science). Lets be serious: wars happened for all reasons: ergo aint religion’s fault; people do all types of dumb things: aint religions fault. Lets just see that its craziness that drives these people, religion is just an excuse. If it not religion, its patriotism and all its forms , so on and so forth.
@Hodari (137): do you know that {(x,y) real numbers/ x*y=0} isnt a manifold? Is it the moment of earth shattering info sharing?
@Moonbeam (135): I did qualify my praise; I don’t like the bias either and portraying homo*****uality as a choice is just plain wrong and misleading imo. None of the homo*****uals I know chose it….sorry Flamehorse but you’re wrong and have been deluded by your Bible.
@get a clue (99): What you don’t recognize sarcasm? and I did say “appears”. I’m like a half step away from atheism myself – I’m just not anti-religion.
Sorry, mom
Please accept my apologies.
As far as bible picking and choosing goes, one thing that always gets overlooked that I can’t understand isn’t made more of a big deal:
1) Jesus Christ, the supposed model all people calling themselves Christians should be trying to emulate, said NOTHING about homo*****uality. No red-ink quotes at all. Now maybe some could say he was just assuming his audience knew the previous laws, or else that there was no concept of it as we know it today at the time, but the fact remains, no quotes from the source.
2) HOWEVER–Jesus was very outspoken and vehemently against the practice of DIVORCE and REMARRIAGE. Several places in the gospels he directly singles it out as a sin, and says it’s adultery and should not happen. This is explicit, red-ink stuff!
And yet–pastors and preachers get divorced and remarried all the time, without the slightest guilt over it–all while condemning homo*****uality from the pulpit.
(FWIW, I am not a Christian, though I was raised a Southern Baptist and thus am very familiar with the bible.)
@porkido (150):
I think he meant that he doesn’t endorse homo*****ual behaviour in any form or fashion…
Let’s not forget Jesus…
@Ed (154): As Christians we believe the Bible is the word of God. Jesus is God…the Bible says:
“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homo*****uals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)
However, the verse also proves another point. IMO it proves Christians should not look down upon homo*****uals. Yes it’s a sin and I don’t condone it…but we all sin and the Bible does not point out homo*****uality as being any worse then other sins that people commit on a daily basis.
Great list…but these people are already well known. What’s needed is a list of those that are not so obvious…a list of who to look out for. Still, this a great source of info and I hope a lot of people take the time to read it. I worry about those seemingly innocent up-and-commers who are developing loyal followers even now. Most of us, at one point or another in our lives, need someone to belong to or something to be part of, especially if we are at a lonely point. That needing to belong is what these religious zealots pounce on. There certainly is nothing wrong with having strong religious convictions. Why can’t these people keep them to themselves? Even as I write this there is some cult somewhere that we have not yet even heard of…someone is losing their sense of self right now….someone is being brain washed right now.
Christianity gives Christianity a bad name. It’s all pointless rituial and nonsence that should have no bering in modern life but unfortunatly does.
@Ed (154): I was just getting ready to post along the same lines.
Jesus said, in Matthew 5:32 “But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery.” Oh, and Malachy 2:16 says “I hate divorce, says the LORD God of Israel.” So it’s very clear that divorce and re-marriage is an offense to God.
I try to rise above the temptation to hate all divorcees, however. I just hate the fact that people got divorced. In fact, some of my best friends are divorced! I must say I don’t know why they chose to pursue such an unrighteous lifestyle, though.
I do really think that we should create laws where if divorcees who are getting remarried have children, those children should be removed from their parents and given up for adoption. After all, a family is about one man, one woman and their children – how can a family consist of one man, his new wife, one woman, her new husband, and any number of half-sisters, half-brothers, step-sisters, and step-brothers? If we continue to allow such “blended” families the next thing will be man on dog *****! And children obviously should not have to grow up in a household with parents who are so obviously immoral as to ignore the clear teachings of God.
Oh, almost got so distracted by my sarcasm that I forgot to say… Great list!
I’d like one of Phelps’ follower children to die, then all the families of soldiers can protest their funeral.
Honestly, protesting soldiers’ funerals is the most despicable thing you can do, it’s got me so mad and disgusted I want to punch a small animal in the throat.
@mathilda2 (160): I didn’t think you were being sarcastic at first.
Almost 50% of marriages ends in divorce (at least here in America). So I guess they’re all sinners too huh? We’ll see if homo*****ual divorces ever reach that number.
It’s amazing that most people “sin” everyday but have the nerves to call homo*****uals sinners. Isn’t it still a sin to eat meat on Fridays.
wow, 63jax is a stupid ***** so im guessing hes a christian. christianity is bull***** the only reason any of these people got the amount of power and followers that they did is because christianity trains them from the time they are children to be followers and not think for themselves.
@Forrest Greene 144–Very well written! I was raised the same way, but unfortunately I am not nearly such an eloquent writer. Great post–well said.
Jo
@Ed (154): And also…the ENTIRE bible is the inspired word of God…all that red ink only goes to point out what Jesus physically said not to indicate it’s more important than the rest of the bible. It’s kind of ignorant to say that if it’s not in red ink it doesn’t mean anything or doesn’t count.
@The Truth (127): “so do what you want with your life but please dont assume you know better than anyone else.”
I will as long as you also assume you don’t know better than anyone else.
Great list, but it could have been written a bit better
Great list. I just hope we don’t judge a philosophy by it’s misrepresentation. Derek Webb wrote a great song about Fred Phelps called “Freddie Please”. You guys should check it out if you get a chance.
ht tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6GjFWFwBHA
@dc420911 (163): So all Christians are stupid huh? I know some that would blow you out of the water intellectually…the people on this list aren’t Christians stupid and to lump them in with everyone who is is equally as stupid. Also the assumption that all Christians are religious from the time they are kids is ridiculously stupid…the majority of Chrisitans I know, including myself, did not become Christians until adulthood and are very capable of thinking for themselves. Your stupid too, so you must be a Christian…if I follow your logic correctly.
@Vas (6) That’s exactly what I was thinking…
Never mind giving Christianity a bad name – how about the fact that these people give men a bad name, or give the human race a bad name??
Also – I think that if people want the Westboro Baptist Church to disappear, we need to stop giving them what they want…shock, awe and thus power.
Ignore the fact that they picket against everything and anything. It’s clearly ridiculous, makes no sense and could almost be considered comical (if they weren’t so vehement about it.) Stop making documentaries out of them and stop giving them your hate…it only stands to increase theirs.
I formulated my own believes. I don’t need anybody to tell me what to believe. I don’t care how long you studied theology. All it means, is you will be able to quote scripture and understand, much better than I do, what is in the Bible (seems like a waste of mental capacity to me). As far as I’m concerned, it’s the same as being an expert on the book, Alice in Wonderland. When it comes right down to it, you don’t know a lick more than I do about what happens to you when you die. It’s all a big guess. And the people who wrote the Bible are the same people who believed if you sailed too far, you would fall off the edge of the World. And there followers of the word are the same people who put Galileo under house arrest for stating that there were moons circling Jupiter. I have my own religion; it’s called modern science and common sense. It doesn’t surprise me at all about these screwed up individuals. It’s just another example of the weak minded, following the instructions of con artists, the uninformed or mentally ill.
For those who find the Bible to be the unerring word of God…
…Jesus was a zombie, for the Bible tells me so!
John 6:54 Who ever eat my flesh, and drink my blood, hath eternal life;
John 6:55 For my flesh is meat, and my blood is drink!
Matthew 28:7 And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead;
Mark 9:10 And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean.
Luke 7:15 And he that was dead sat up, and began to speak
Luke 24:5 And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?
John 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead
John 21:14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
Romans 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
It’s all there. I’m just reporting the facts and citing the source.
David Koresh and his followers were burned alive by the FBI and ATF. It was all-out murder, not just a “botched” mission. Furthermore, they fabricated a bunch of allegations, including rumors of creating/selling meth, and having some scary cache of automatic weapons that they were going to use on the surrounding community to get the public on their side. With zero evidence of what Koresh was supposedly doing illegally, they burned many alive and shot others who attempted to flee. Other than practicing his own oddball interpretation of Christianity, what was unusual?
Also, you will find that one of the doors to the front of their home — which they dubbed a “compound” — went MISSING after this tragedy took place. Why? The bullet holes on the door showed “innies,” not just “outies” from the bullets from Koresh’s people, proving they were fired upon. Tear gas and incendiary devices were used as well, and awful psychological approaches were used to get them to “surrender” were used, including playing recordings of animals being slaughtered and other weird effects like huge spotlights shined on their building (aka “The Psycho Lights of Waco”. They were slain solely for being different, and there is no proof that they were violent or abusing children.
David Koresh was an odd guy by comparison, but the federal organizations gave THEMSELVES a bad name; Christianity was spared this time. It is amazing what people will believe with little to no evidence.
Katerz, you might want to loosen the rubber band holding your tin-foil hat on.
I’m just sayin’.
@169
White Dragon says, “Your stupid too…”
Priceless.
Thanks for playing!
Fortunately because of the freedom of our country those of us who can rationilze on our own,think for ourselves, and logically come to sensible and rational conclusions are allowed to do so.Thankfully those us who enjoy the spirituality of religion and the joy it gives us are allowed to do so as well.We cannot helpfor those that would misuse and take these luxuries and pleasures and use them for their own personal gain
@katerz (173): Mistakes were made but it was not “all-out murder”. The siege lasted for 51 days, enough time to evacuate but they refused. They also shot at and killed several ATF agents.
Unfortunate for the children but you can’t fire against federal agents and not expect retaliation.
Christianity was not spared. It was another example of taking religion to its extreme.
The Westboro Baptists led by Fred Phelps came to Long Beach California recently to protest a high school that has “gay clubs” and “Jew clubs.”
The Phelps followers sent nine adults and a few children. Apparently they were not aware of Long Beach’s long history of diversity, inclusion, and social conciousness. The protestors were soon surrounded by 4500 peaceful chanting high school students. The Hateful Phelps Followers were drowned out by a loving and supporting community.
I am thankful for Fred Phelps sending his minions to our town to scare our children. He brought our community together to take a stand against his hatred and racism.
@get a clue (172): Lol…I can’t tell whether or not your being sarcastic…j/k But seriously, for the first two references I didn’t know zombies where about people eating their flesh, and I didn’t know they had blood…cause their “living” dead, AND unerring doesn’t mean literal…the first two references are figurative…unless your crazy then they’re literal…as for the rest zombies, as I said are living dead…Jesus is just living come back from the dead…not living dead…besides get your head on straight – I might believe in a man come back from the dead but you believe in Zombies…
*end sarcasm*
here is a link for anyone interested in the story.
http://www.lbpost.com/ryan/8485%20