Relationships are not always about sex (though listverse has generally only published lists of that type, thus far) and this list looks at ten relationships that were either amusing, interesting or quirky. This is but a small selection of the potential candidates, so do be sure to mention others you might think worthy of a follow up list in the comments.

The two founding fathers of Quantum Mechanics vehemently debated one another over the interpretation of quantum theory. Bohr was a champion of the uncertainty principle put forth by Werner Heisenberg, which states that it is not possible to obtain completely accurate measurements of certain pairs of properties of quantum systems, such as position and momentum, or time and energy, at the same time. At the fifth Solvay conference, Einstein expressed his disagreement with Bohr. Einstein distanced himself from the uncertainty principle, famously proclaiming “God doesn’t play dice”. Over the course of several years, Einstein came up with several papers and thought experiments in trying to refute the Copenhagen Interpretation championed by Bohr. However, Einstein’s arguments failed in refuting Bohr’s interpretation of the quantum mechanical view as wrong or incomplete, despite intense collaboration with other prominent scientists. The debate between Bohr and Einstein continued till the death of Einstein in 1955.

During the 19th century, differing opinions occurred on the nature of classical Russian music. Tchaikovsky wanted to write professional compositions of such quality that they would stand up to Western scrutiny, and thus transcend national barriers, yet remain distinctively Russian in melody, rhythm and other compositional characteristics. The Five, which consisted of a circle of powerful composers who met in St.Petersburg, had the aim of producing a specifically Russian kind of art music, rather than one that imitated older European music, or relied on European-style conservatory training. The Five also believed in using the melodic, harmonic, tonal and rhythmic properties of Russian folk song, along with exotic melodic, harmonic and rhythmic elements from music originating in the middle- and far-eastern parts of the Russian Empire. While Tchaikovsky himself used folk songs in some of his works, for the most part he tried to follow Western practices of composition, especially in terms of tonality and tonal progression. However, the relationship between Tchaikovsky and The Five was quite friendly: In 1869 Tchaikovsky entered into a working relationship with Mily Balakirev (one of the members of the Five). The result was Tchaikovsky’s first recognized masterpiece, the fantasy-overture “Romeo and Juliet”, a work which The Five wholeheartedly embraced. Furthermore, when another member of the Five, Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov, was offered a professorship at the Saint Petersburg Conservatory, it was to Tchaikovsky that he turned for advice and guidance, and during the 1880s, after the members of The Five had gone their separate ways, Tchaikovsky enjoyed a very close relationship with Rimsky-Korsakov.

Chesterton’s most famous philosophical opponent was the Irish playwright, George Bernard Shaw. Shaw represented the new school of thought, modernism, which was rising at the time, while Chesterton’s views were increasingly focused towards the church. Nevertheless, they both maintained good-will, and had great respect for one other (It had been Shaw who had encouraged Chesterton to write a play, and claimed that the world was not thankful enough for Chesterton).
Their debates, in print and in public, were a subject of great amusement, and a source of one witty exchange after another:
Shaw: If I were as fat as you, I would hang myself.
Chesterton: If I were to hang myself, I would use you for the rope.
Chesterton: I see there has been a famine in the land.
Shaw: And I see the cause of it.

To many, King and Malcolm X were heroes of the Civil Rights Movement, two towering icons of contemporary African-American culture. Their speeches reflected visions on improving America, and both men believed that if blacks were to attain freedom, they first needed to achieve self-respect. However, their intentions were delivered in different styles and purposes; King believed in peaceful demonstrations and arguments, and a non-violent approach to things, the same approach applied by Gandhi, while Malcolm X promoted nationalist and separatist doctrines, and for most of his life, he believed that only through revolution and force could blacks attain their rightful place in society. Thus Malcolm and King each became a focus of one of the opposing wings of the movement for equality that swept Black America, and the country, and their titanic struggle shook the nation and the world. Nevertheless, near the end of their lives, Martin Luther King and Malcolm X’s beliefs had become more similar. After his break from the black Muslim movement, Malcolm X emphasized unity and change through black pride, and respect for oneself, rather than through hate and revenge. Their relationship became more amiable with X expressing his interest to join forces with King and the progressive elements of the Civil Rights Movement.

The two greatest American chemists of the first half of the twentieth century, Lewis and Langmuir were also famous rivals. Lewis had helped create the College of Chemistry at the University of California, Berkeley, and made it into one of the world’s most productive centers of chemistry research. His contributions to chemical bonding, chemical thermodynamics and theory of acids and bases had made Lewis a household name. Langmuir (above), in turn, had extended Lewis’ theory on chemical bonding and popularized it to a great extent, often to the annoyance of Lewis. Langmuir had been recipient of the Nobel Prize for his work on surface theory, while Lewis had been denied the covetous prize, despite a staggering 15 nominations. In 1946, Lewis’ lifeless body was discovered under a laboratory workbench at Berkeley, and while officials have reported the death to have been brought about by hydrogen cyanide, most believe it to be a suicide due to his relationship with Langmuir, and subsequent depression brought on by it. Indeed, on the day of Lewis’ death, Langmuir and Lewis had met for lunch at Berkeley, and Langmuir had expressed that he had been on the Berkeley campus that day to receive an honorary degree.

With Ben Franklin ill, the task of conjuring the Declaration of Independence had fallen to John Adams. Adams however argued that Jefferson should draft it instead, and Jefferson’s draft was defended by Adams with much eloquence. However, from that point on the two had a less than amicable relationship. During Adam’s tenure as vice-president, the two argued vehemently on the nature of politics and the direction to lead the country. A heavily contested presidential election between the two was determined by only three electoral votes, and Adams became the second president of the United States. However, the bitter campaign was renewed in 1800, when Jefferson defeated Adams to become the third president. The two exchanged hostile letters on several occasions, and Adams famously declared “I will out live Jefferson”. On his death bed on July 4, 1826, Adams famously proclaimed “Thomas Jefferson survives”; however, unbeknownst to him, Jefferson had actually passed away a few hours earlier.

Freud met Jung in February of 1907, and the two established a firm friendship, and corresponded extensively over a period of six years. Freud had described the, then young, Carl Gustav Jung as his heir to psychoanalysis. However, as Jung began to expand his own theories and dissented with the basic tenets of Freudian theory, the relationship started turning sour. This eventually led to a highly hostile exchange of letters between the two, and Jung’s resignation as chairman from the International Psychoanalytic Congress, where he had been elected with support from Freud. Jung went on to form his own school of thought, known as analytical psychology, while Freud continued to develop his own views of psychology. They met for the last time in September, 1913, in Munich, where Jung developed some key concepts on psychological types in analytical psychology, that would come to distinguish Jungian theory and Freudian theory for the next 50 years.

Arthur Schopenhauer was a German philosopher whose metaphysical analysis of will, his views on human motivation and desire, and his aphoristic writing style influenced many well-known thinkers, including Friedrich Nietzsche, Richard Wagner, Albert Einstein, Sigmund Freud and Leo Tolstoy among others. Subsequently, Hegel was one of the creators of German Idealism, and his historicist and idealist account of reality as a whole had revolutionized European philosophy, and was an important precursor to Continental philosophy and Marxism. However, Schopenhauer was a strong critic of Hegel, often accusing him of deliberately using vacuous verbiage that sounded impressive, but was ultimately devoid of any content. Such was the hostility between the two, that in 1820 Schopenhauer became a lecturer at the University of Berlin, and scheduled his lectures to coincide with those of Hegel. However, only five students turned up to Schopenhauer’s lectures, while Hegel’s classes overflowed, causing Schopenhauer to retire from academia.

The Inklings were a literary discussion group which hosted several influential intellectuals of the 20th century, the two most prominent members being C.S. Lewis and J.R.R Tolkien (above). Tolkien and Lewis were close friends, and it had been Tolkien who had helped Lewis to convert to Christianity, whereas Lewis had encouraged Tolkien to expand his fictional writing; both taught at Oxford, both were interested in literature, and both wrote fictional books which propagated basic Christian themes and principles. They often narrated manuscripts of their works in progress to one another and The Inklings long before they were published. However, Tolkien expressed strong disapproval of Lewis’ Narnia books, citing that the Christian themes and messages were far too strong. Tolkien also never thought highly of Lewis’ attempt at popular theology, and believed that theology should be left to the professionals to avoid misinterpretations of key Christian themes. Nonetheless, Lewis dedicated his massively influential and popular “The Screwtape Letters”, which had landed him on the cover of Time magazine, to Tolkien. However, the rift between the two seemed to widen following Lewis’ growing affiliation with the Anglican church and his romance with American widow, Joy Gresham. After Lewis married Gresham, he grew apart from his old friends, and it is believed that Tolkien took it personally.

The world of the newly emerging quantum physics had been very much defined by the Danish scientist Niels Bohr. His contributions to the understanding of atomic structure and quantum mechanics had resulted in the Nobel Prize in 1922. During one of Bohr’s crucial lectures among a host of intellectuals, a young German student raised his hand and pointed out a mathematical flaw in one of his arguments. This left Bohr stunned, and he personally asked for the young man; this 20 year old was none other than Werner Heisenberg. The two, then, established a firm friendship that would last many years, and several collaborations, and Bohr was overwhelmingly pleased when Heisenberg, too, received the nod for the Nobel.
However, what science had brought together, politics would divide. Theoretical physics had been labeled as Jewish science due to the immense popularity of Albert Einstein, and Bohr, too, had Jewish connections. With the onset of the Second World War, Heisenberg was viewed with an eye of suspicion by the Gestapo and was eventually recruited by the Nazis to work on a project concerning development of the atomic bomb. In their final meeting, Bohr thought that Heisenberg supported the idea of developing an atomic bomb for the Nazis, and was appalled by the thought that Heisenberg showed no moral qualms towards the idea of the bomb. The friendship was strained. After the war the scientific community ostracized Heisenberg, and it would be some time before he would once again gain acceptance from both the scientific community and in his friendship with Bohr. However, the relationship was never to be restored to the same status. An excellent documentary documenting the relationship between the two and the politics involved can be found here.




















I dunno if anyone's asked this, but just so I can show off, here are the Big Five of Russian Music:
Mili Balakirev, Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov, Alexander Borodin, Modest Mussorgsky, and Cesar Cui.
Edison was a *****ing ass-bag – I wish he’d fallen against that poor elephant he electrocuted and fried along with him – just to discredit Tesla.
Say goodbye to Topsy!!! – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bowA1xUZpmA
Tingle and his obsession with rupees . . .?
Anywho, thanks for the fascinating list!
Helen Keller and Anne Sullivan?
Lewis and Clark?
Fossey and Goodall?
Albright and Thatcher?
How about Clough and Taylor
I thought that Jefferson and Adams had reconciled before they died, knowing that they were the last of the 'old breed'. I love Adams!!
Great list. But I just can't help but think you missed two really important relationships…
Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison I think should have been number 1, yes even over Heisenberg and Bohr.
But I think you should have also included, or at least for the next list, Bobby Fischer and Boris Spassky. Now talk about heated competition.
Agreed, Fischer/Spassky and Tesla/Edison. Both would be great picks for another list.
Tesla&edison over bohr&heisenberg? Are you nuts? The guys who made incredible breakthroughs in quatum theory, that give us the understanding of how the atomic world works under the guys who gave us ac and general electric? Do you know anything about physics?
Spassky wasnt that great (i bet that like every commie chess player he just wanted to defect) fischer was great but cuz of his mood swings we will never know if he would have bested kaspatov.
It is a trend, like the "Hi Mom, I'm on TV!" routine.
i know, man.
but thats kinda dumb too.
at least there, though, you are communicating with your mother.
mothers love that
I love the scientist pairings! <3 I know of all of them separately, but I didn't know they shared a relationship with each other! Very, very interesting, especially because many of them came up with scientific theories that were pretty different in that they applied to different fields within the same subject.
William Gladstone and Benjamin Disraeli?
Yeah, it’s a must!
Walter Mitty?
Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett.
When these two met, they were both still closeted, and this was before Bohemian Rhapsody. They hit it off like a house on fire, becoming instant friends.
When Bo-Rap was released to the radio stations in the U.K, Everett would go on to play it 14 times in 2 days, thus giving it the exposure that would lead to the international success of the band, Queen.
However, by the mid- 80's,with both now out of the closet and a reputation as some of the wildest party animals in the world of showbusiness, petty arguments would estrange the two forever.
Kenny didn't attend Mercury's funeral saying 'Freddie won't be there', and unfortunately, a few years after Mercury's demise, Everett himself succumb to the AIDS virus, or which it is rumoured they both caught off a 'shared' partner in the early 80's
pretty interesting. it makes me really happy to see people who disagree with each other on one thing but still get along.
That's a pretty bad mischaracterization of the relationship between Jefferson and Adams.
Between 1776 and 1796 they were essentially the best of friends. It was a friendship forged in the Revolution and strengthened by their time together in Europe as ministers to England and France, respectively. it wasn't until Adams became president that things really began to break down – and that wasn't even because of the election; Jefferson was supremely upset about the Alien and Sedition Acts and wouldn't go to France as part of a peace mission to prevent the Quasi-War with France from becoming a full-scale conflict.
The real souring came during the election of 1800 when both men's agents hurled insults during the campaign. They saw each other for the last time just before Jefferson was inaugurated and then Adams left town that morning before the swearing in. But they did, indeed, rebuild their friendship through an extensive correspondence that began in 1812 and continued until their coincident deaths on July 4, 1826.
While Adams wrote three or 4 letters to Jefferson for every one he received in return, that's due to any lack of esteem or affection on Jefferson's part.
Patton and Eisenhower is a really interesting one, that I think deserves to be added as a bonus.
How about Richard Nixon and Elvis
See http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/200…
Great idea and well written list.
oliveralbq, I am a female reader and I am not *****ed off whatsoever. The thought never even crossed my mind of the lack of female relationships. You must be a feminist of some sort? Or at least sympathetic.
You must realize though that most of the great minds of the past have been predominately men, mostly because back then women were not allowed to be educated and/or not taken seriously. (Which is terrible, but a thing of the past now. And you cannot change the past, so why not accept the reality of it?)
I personally would have rolled my eyes at hellen keller and anne sullivan, because I've had enough of them, and they simply just are not interesting to me anymore, whatsoever. I do not think the list would have been better with them included, but that may just be me.
The only relationship I can think of right now would be that of Nietzsche and Lou Salome. I think that is an interesting relationship, although Salome is not very well known. (And it includes a women, too, which would satisfy oliveralbq, right?
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oh my god.
i … was … just … kidding
yesterdays list was about gender equality, and todays had 25 males (with the inclusion of the five).
thats all. period.
that would satisfy me :p :-p ;p
triple tongue sticking out —–
if the list author were to include a female, just for the sake of adding a female, then that would be a travesty. – especially if there was still a lack of explaination, it would be moot. while your argument is very poignent — and while i do accept reality of it — im simply not in agreeance that you can place ten items (with two males a piece, (and another 5 for entry #9)) before you consider the achievments of 1 female.
jesus — these arent even achievements, per se, but relationships. that makes it more subjective, and makes the lack of female entries stick out like a sore thumb.
now the example you used was good.
lou andreas-salome/nietzsche is a fine example that would have made it to at least #5 or so if i'd have written it.
oh, and listen — im no femininist. neither is my girlfriend, my mom, my sister, my roommate, or my boss. (those last 5 are women, i aam not) — and they dont like the idea of feminism any more than i do. im cool with equality. and even the lack of equality when appropriate, on either side of the gender issue.
the point of my post actually had nothing to do with gender issues…..my post had to do with diversity. i used the example of women (but i used other examples too)
i was wondering about something past what the introduction explained. i was wondering because it almost seemed (operative words: *almost* and *seemed*) like he had narrowed the scope to keep from including women. i know that wasnt the case. i knew then. i never thought otherwise. ….i am confident this isnt the case, but thats how it read on first read through.
not to ***** off any femanists, but what i was hoping for was not the inclusion of women. i was hoping for a clearer explaination of why the listwriter chose the disciplines he chose.
oh—–hehehe one other thing.
keller/sullivan.
im actually sick of this one too.
however, not everyone here is as familiar as i (and you) seem to be.
with the list titled "fascinating" relationships — i mean — thats a unique and fascinating relationship.
(but i gotta admit — i like nietzche/salome much much bettter)
Oh, well I am sorry I misinterpreted your comment then! It sure seemed to me like you meant what you said. ><
If he does a follow up list though, I do really hope to see Nietzsche/Salome on it. That would be really cool. :]
i meant what i said — but but but
some was tongue in cheek — some was sarcasm.
it wasnt until the reply above that i said — ok…this is what i think he should have done.–
–well, i do still think the lack of diversity hindered the interestingness of the list, but everyone is going to have a different opinion, and it didnt seem to bother some people.
a follow up list would be great. and salome would be a cool inclusion, since ont thing randomprescion pointed out, the list author concentrated on lesser known of relationships. salome/nietzche *for sure* falls into that category.
if i didnt think the author was going to write another list (or already had) i would suggest that you do it, since you have come up with exactly *one* example, and it was brilliant… i'd love to hear what other 9 you think would fit.
This really is a new type of list that garners respect. Not only for what it lays out for personal research but also how it utilises the medium for a much broader domain .
…or maybe not.
whatever.
it's not so broad.
I was just trying to lay down a statement.
THIS is a good list. Thank you.
you really should have stuck to a list about ***** =)
A Very Very good list: If I may add a friend-rival relationship which was incredibly intense in Australia: that of Henry Lawson and Andrew "Banjo" Patterson – writers and poets of the late 19th and early 20th Centuries in Australia.
Both wrote iconic poetry and short stories which has stood the test of literary and folk history: Waltzing Matilda, by Patterson almost being voted the National Anthem in 1988.
In print, for both rival and mutual newspapers and magazines they waged an increasingly bitter and contentious war of words against each other's works but it wasn't until after the death of Lawson in 1922 that Patterson came forward and stated that the two were, in reality, close friends and supporters of one another and that the "rivalry" had been cooked up between them to galvanise the public and make it more aware of contemporary Australian based, inspired and produced literature as opposed to that of British production and source which, at that point, dominated Australian Literature.
Sorry – that last post which read "Both wrote iconic poetry and short stories which has stood the test of literary and folk history" SHOULD have read "Both wrote iconic poetry and short stories which HAVEstood the test of literary and folk history" – sorry; I changed a couple of words around that pivotal "has" but forgot to change IT. oops!
Woyzeck: Are you serious? Imbeciles? These two men produced literature which has gone down as not simply some of the greatest of its genre of the 20th Century, they have been recognised as Literary Immortals whose works are studied in prestigious universities the world over. It is already believed that their work (possibly Tolkien's more so than Lewis's) will go down as Literature which will be recognised as classic and worthy of study in centuries to come – as are the works of Shakespeare today.
A personal view: I find no problem, anomaly, exaggeration or disrespect to 'The Bard' that I compare Tolkien's writings with his – after all, beyond The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings, there is a great deal more he wrote which is just as good.
BTW – According to biographers; Tolkien and Lewis eventually patched up their differences and were friends (if not as close as they had been) by the time Lewis died in 1963. Tolkien, of course followed his friend into the great unknown in 1972.
Odd coincidence that C.S Lewis is on this list and I’m currently watching the Narnia movie
. Good list, I knew about a few of these relationships but the majority of them were new to me.
well how about Timothy Leary and G Gordon Liddy. After one tried to jail the other for I don't know how many years they end up on the same stages on the lecture circuit and appear to be friends?
Tom and Jerry…where are they?
Or Tweety and Sylvester the Cat?
Jay and Silent Bob???
No but seriously, Thomas Edison and Henry Ford.
Flavor Flave and Bridget Nielson. Sorry, I had to go there.
No Tupac and Biggie?
Great List.
Edison and Tesla?
Also, Kind of looks like Jefferson and Franklin, but maybe Adams let his hair down once in a while …
oh i just thought of one…natasha and boris
what about Stephen Douglas and Abe Lincoln. Dougles actual help campaing for Lincoln as president up intill his death.
"The Inklings?" nawww how cute!
Churchill and Astor
-Winston, if i were your wife i would put poison in your coffee.
-Nancy, if i were your husband, i would drink it.
Classic
"One reason I don't drink is that I want to know when I am having a good time." -Nancy Astor
That's an all-time classic… so is this one:
Bessie Braddock to Churchill "Winston, your drunk!"
Churchill: "Bessie, you're ugly, and tomorrow morning I shall be sober"
An oldie but a goodie.
This list didn't hold my interest. But that may just be me. Can't like all lists.
Charles Darwin and Captain Robert FitzRoy… Once friends turned into bitter rivals with Captain FitzRoy finally killing himself.
There is actually an excellent play, written by Michael Frayn called Copenhagen, which describes the last meeting between Bohr and Heisenberg. I had to read it for school many years ago, it`s very emotional.
It's too bad that the picture of Adams and Jefferson is actually a picture of Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin…
this list was one of the most boring ones so far… sorry!
How about Lennon and McCartney?
Lennon & McCartney!
the bronte sisters. maybe they didn’t have some sort of falling out like the other people on this list, but it’s very interesting that one family have so much literary talent. and it’s sad about them dying out one by one.
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Too *****ist with no females on the list … yawn
I bet the relationship between the Curies would come much as exciting, if not more exciting, than let’s say, Heisenberg and Bohr.
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