A songwriter has many foes. He must fight many battles: the battle for attention, the battle of self-sustenance, the battle against greed and complacency and integrity. But none of those battles should be against his very audience. By having his music used for this purpose, he becomes a public enemy of sorts. Trying to keep musicians in line and away from anything detrimental to the name of art, here are the top ten inappropriate uses of music.
Have you ever been listening to your favorite song and wished it could be redone by a bunch of cacophonous twelve year-olds. That wish has been granted by the Kidz Bop franchise, which does this very deed, making Rhianna – and whatever else contemporary and mainstream – sound kid-friendly, like it’s being chanted from the back of a school bus. It certainly gives hope to all the undiscovered Rebecca Blacks out there, who seek to convert mediocrity to obnoxiously-omnipresent commercial success.
Because absolutely every song should be a flamboyant show tune, Glee filters the radio through a high school musical. Lady Gaga, Elton John, My Chemical Romance and Fleetwood Mac have all been Glee-ffected, not once complaining about another chance to sell a few extra million records. Kings of Leon and Foo Fighters, however, have refused to allow their music to be bastardized and thus maintain integrity; these musicians, it should also be noted, work hard for their money, touring to no end.

There’s hardly anything more crass than making music about food. Whether it be in a jingle for Subway or McDonald’s, or in a Jimmy Buffet song, emoting about what you enjoy stuffing in your gourd is as gluttonous as gluttony gets, and completely American. Who else derives so much inspiration from their fat gut? You don’t hear Indian songs about curry…

Music and beer both equate to a good time, but in separate terms. Beer loosens the spirit and enhances sensual perception. Thus, people who are drunk like most of what is played for them, regardless of how rudimentary. What doesn’t fly is the opposite: music doesn’t make beer anymore enjoyable, but leave it to a Budweiser or Miller ad to try to use good music to make their beer more appealing. A lot of indie rock, including Jet and Cold War Kids, have found its way to commercials depicting attractive people in bars having a good time. The idea seems to be to recreate a party atmosphere so viewers will be led to believe the beer brand is a vital part of the equation, but that is classic deception.
Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton both have albums. Yes, this is true. None of them are a singer by trade, but that didn’t stop them from entertaining their delusions. They aren’t talented in any other way, but their sex appeal and tabloid scandals keep them scrubbing the toilet bowl of relevance, and so they go on to pursue other ventures (reality TV, perfume lines, magazine spreads, etc.) to keep their names in all our heads, as well as inside truckloads of unsold CDs. The sooner they burn out, the better. But the out-of-thin-air singer fantasy seems to show no sign of stopping: Kim Kardashian, Leighton Meester, and others of sex tape fame have taken their respective shots at being over-synthesized pop music miscarriages.

Music can be used for a lot of good: to raise money for hurricane victims, starving third-world nations, and myriad disease-treating foundations. It can also be used to line the breast pockets of some fat business mogul. Music should exist for its own sake, but all too often is it used in television commercials to make the contents of the ad seem more appealing. A lot of bands agree to let their music be used, which, for a struggling musician, is logical. It guarantees them a healthy check as well as a heightened level of exposure. Dan Auerbach of the Black Keys, who has allowed his songs in many commercials, including car ads, said in an NPR interview that television commercials are kind of the new radio, a way to get heard by those who like to watch things.

Guantanamo Bay has been found to do this. Playing Eminem, AC/DC, and even the Sesame Street theme song, at deafening volumes and on loop for inhumane lengths of time – captives have been turned insane and suicidal, beyond simply being lulled to confess. Musicians like Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine has since refused the rights to have their music played for this cruel purpose.

A few years ago Jack White of the White Stripes sued the U.S. Military for having the likeness of one of his songs appear in an Air Force propaganda ad during the Super Bowl – and he had every right to. Using the positive feelings associated with the song to underscore an ad endorsing nationalistic pride is the very definition of propaganda, and evoking a popular song (‘Fell in Love with a Girl’) in an ad aiming for military recruits is completely dissembling. Jack White, via the White Stripes’ website, said he doesn’t want his music used in an ad campaign recruiting troops for a war he doesn’t support (although he was sure to clarify his support of the troops). Meanwhile, Disturbed has no problem letting its anger-anthem continue to nourish the violence-craving emotions of confused teens tempted by any brutish Navy ad.

Music is meant to inspire peace and a sense of community, as well as appeal to the emotions, but some music thrives on taking one emotion and running with it. The result – music-listeners who perpetuate their bitterness and rage through sycophantic music, rather than channeling it properly. The flip side of music feeding lowly desires is the use of music as a scapegoat for what negative feelings already exist. Prime example: after Columbine, Marilyn Manson became a sort of martyr for all unchecked teen aggression, especially the killing kind, even when it was evident the Trenchcoat Mafia was more influenced by violent first-person shooters like Doom and by the distinctly evil-sounding German shock-metal of Rammstein. The murder of John Lennon, in 1980, should be proof alone that human evil long preceded evil music.
The worst possible transgression involving music is in its own unchecked plagiarism. Rap music somehow continues to operate under the pretense that it is actually a genre in its own right, and not someone else’s – where most songs are fabricated constructions of Pro-tools’ loop samples, or mosaics of songs written by other people, rarely is anything new actually generated, so much as stitched together and resold. Examples: Kanye West has sampled Daft Punk twice in songs he calls his own, and the song conspicuously titled ‘Opposite of Adults’ is a hack-up of the song ‘Kids’ by MGMT. For those who call these practices of a rap-prominent music community “exciting,” that’s just the thrill of a crime gotten away with. Kanye’s “King-Kong-Ain’t-Got-Nothin’-On-Me” attitude was recently challenged when he got sued for sampling the song ‘Different Strokes,’ which appeared on his collaboration with Jay-Z. Maybe that will polish his crown with a dab of modesty. Or maybe he’ll get drunk and interrupt another awards show. Learning nothing, after all, is his greatest skill.




















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Too right! Songs about food are hazardous…
http://tinyurl.com/44o492j
what a load of ***** this list is music in adverts is a bad thing? should they just be silent/ author is clearly a massive music snob
I agree sorry but music is art, which means it isn’t off limits to anyone or anything. I love music and I think the age of video has kept some outstanding music from reaching the masses. I agree that marilyn manson became a scapegoat, however I also recognize that songs like beautiful people inspire a good bit of bad blood among young people. This opinion is from someone who was anything but beautiful in high school.
#8 – You’ve obviously not heard Devin Townsend’s “Deconstruction” then. :p
Great list.
Then again, this song about food is great, but it’s by a guy named Fats, and it may not actually be about food.
http://tinyurl.com/bh56xr
“…Kanye West has sampled Daft Punk twice in songs…” When I heard the song, I assumed he paid copyrights to remix those songs, because it is so obvious that it was a Daft Punk song. Man, so he ripped it off?
It wasnt ripped off. It was cleared for use.
It was either just very poorly worded in the article or the author is totally clueless
Number 1 shows a startling lack of understanding about the genre on the authors behalf.
I agree
Please shut up Monstette
I as well
the author has a stick up his ass clearly
i agree
I think its a big stick
You can’t rip somebody off if you feature them in your music video. Kanye has 14 Grammys and three rolling stone 5 star albums for a reason
Kanye has 14 Grammys and three rolling stone 5 star albums for a reason
As if the Grammys are a valid standard by which to judge. The Beatles only won 9 music-related Grammys during their active existence as a band.
Just because you have someone’s permission to use the likeness of their art doesn’t mean you have talent or should share in the credit for what the other person created.
So if I took a picture of the Mona Lisa and drew a mustache and an eye-patch on it, regardless if I had Leonardo da Vinci’s permission, do you think the print deserves to go up in the same museum as the original, or should garner any profit or attention what-so-ever for the “artist” responsible?
Exactly, xyroze. Thank you.
Xyroze…no. That’s not the same thing at all. No.
Just… no.
Seeing as Marcel Duchamp did exactly that for the seminal Dadaist work of art “L.H.O.O.Q.”, yes. Yes it does.
I suppose it wouldn’t be entirely inaccurate to compare modern hip hop “artists” who make their careers out of perverting and bastardizing real artist’s accomplishments to the anti-art of the Dadaist movement. That does absolutely nothing for the argument that the people producing the readymade knockoff are in any way comparable in skill to those who produced the original material being mocked and therefore do not deserve the same recognition, at least in my opinion.
@artcat120 That was this century’s best burn ever.
The reason is called popularity, not talent. Idiot.
Grammys are a popularity content, nothing else. Don’t forget that
I wouldn’t really call using Daft Punk music a ripoff given that most of the duo’s memorable hooks have been taken (totally unattributed) from other songs, usually obscure 70s b-sides from little-heard artists that could definitely use the exposure more than Daft Punk getting credit from Kanye!
Nothing is more annoying than seeing kids listening to some resembled ABBA, Hall & Oates, Queen or other classic, knowing that they probably think it’s all original. Then again, there was that time when people thought Led Zeppelin was original (when a lot of it was borrowed or ripped off of some old blues tune from decades before).
Resampled, not resembled. Well, not far off.
Actually many hard rock bands have had their roots in the blues.If you listen to Zeppelin’s “Lemon Song and then Howlin’ Wolf’s “Killin’ Floor” you’d be surprised at the similarities. Plagiarism…or perceived plagiarism…has always been a bane in popular music. Interestingly, Jimmy page originally considered..briefly…to have Zep imitate the acoustic folk sound of Pentangle (RIP Bert Jansch).
Well everyone knows that Led Zeppelin are blatant plagiarizers. If not whole songs, then lyrical snippets, melodies/riffs, and even vocal stylings and on-stage schtick. Willie Dixon, Jake Holmes, Jeff Beck, Keith Relf, Eddie Cochrane, Randy California, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters, Steve Marriot, Eddie Phillips…all have been copied or outright stolen from in some way by Zep. Even Jansch’s version of an old tune called Black Waterside became Zep’s Black Mountains Side, solely credited to Page.
Yeah, I always get Led Zeppelin confused with those 12-bar hacks that came before them. pffft.
Too bad they still were virtuosos with their respective instruments and were a massive influence in hard rock and heavy metal.
give me a true example of music about food, thats the only one i dont fully understand on this list, it almost seems made up for this list. i agree with almost every other point though
this is one of the few excellent food songs…….
aaaaand… that’s about internet for today.
check out lupe fiasco’s Gotta Eat. It’s pretty good. Also this list was boring and I suspect it was posted more to get chatter going.
heres the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKgWADleFCM
heres the lyrics http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/lupefiasco/gottaeat.html
Just google “songs about food”. It’s not hard. Here’s one to get you started though.
Jimmy Buffett’s Cheeseburger in paradise.
listverselovesmusic / 3 Nov, 2011 at 01:04 am
“give me a true example of music about food”
Here’s one, it’s also a violation of rule #8
http://tinyurl.com/cz8la4
You’re an idiot. Manson’s whole career has been satirical and music is never used to “sell” anything. It’s used to add mood/create a vibe for the commercial.
Someone has poor reading comprehension skills…
Clearly someone has very poor music comprehension skills.
Awful list.
This was obviously made by an exaggerating hipster
True for sure
I was thinking the same thing while reading the list. Hey author, get off your high horse and stop taking music so seriously…
hey commentor, get off your high horse and stop taking lists so serious…
hey commentator #2, get off your high horse and stop taking comments so seriously…..
you guys are so lame. i’m going to pitchfork.com
Music is a business and nothing truly “stolen” everything made always comes to a consent through licenses between artists. music is art. and art is always an inspiration from others, and it is more obvious in music.
#2 I just disagree with this so much.
Music is for every emotion good and bad. If it can play at your emotions then it’s serving its purpose. Blaming songs for the actions of individuals is just as moronic as saying violent video games and movies are the reason kids are committing crimes.
The albums all have warning labels on them for suggestive content. It’s the parents’ responsibility to filter what their kids are listening to. It’s not inappropriate for people to express themselves; it’s inappropriate for irresponsible adults to turn a blind eye to what their kids are listening to and blaming the artist for it later.
Censoring art is just a crime.
“If you can make it through any art without being completely emotionally pushed in one direction, then it hasn’t done its job.”" -Glassjaw
I agree. The list had me more or less until entry three, and especially entry two. *****load of music I like could be call aggressive and hate ridden, and I simply love it. When having a hard day, nothing beats playing an aggressive metal song to vent off. It’s an emotion like any other and I don’t agree with user’s idea of every some talking about sugar, spice and everything nice, because that’s not how the world works.
I agree. I do recall how the previous members of Black Sabbath admitted, “I only wanted to hear a resounding roar when I turn on my radio. Not something telling me I should be ridiculously happy despite what I’m actually going through.”
Humans aren’t easily-led automatons. And we are emotionally complicated. If it hadn’t been for metal music or Marylin Manson, I would NOT feel emotionally strong to get through the emotional abuse at home. Cheesy as it sounds, merely listening to them helped me actually let go of any pent-up feelings of frustration and aggression–because it’s like listening to someone who KNOWS there’s a dark side to people’s emotions, and it’s calling out and touching every mad bone a person has in them. It’s simply a case of being felt you are identified and not alone. Would you think a teenager who just went through torrents of mindless name calling and insults by their own parents or peers would feel better after listening to a peppy pop song, or some ballad gushing about something that kid never felt and thought they’d never feel?
Even Euripedes, in his play the Bacchae, acknowledged that sometimes people had to let go their pent up emotions through reckless abandon. If they can’t let down their hair and not care about how they act or sound, then they’re sad people indeed.
That kind of music specified in number two? It didn’t turn me into a killer, it just showed me that it’s okay to do scream therapy and dance aggressively and then get on with my life.
You hit the nail on the head sir. Angry music can actually help people deal with anger in a more healthy fashion. It’s only the people who are already predisposed to violence and easily influenced that end up killing people and even in those cases you can’t blame the music.
Never wrote a comment before but this article has prompted me too.
To claim music is wrongly accused of affecting teenagers, then to suddenly jump on the mass media fear hyping bang wagon and blaming mass murder on a first person shooter is a bit hypocritical.
What makes it worse is that the very next line goes on to say: “distinctly evil-sounding German shock-metal of Rammstein” – seems pretty aggressive and hateful to be calling a band “Evil-sounding”
Music is about expression, whether your opinion counts it as being good or bad doesn’t stop it from being music. Stop being such a snob.
And the line about music inspiring peace and community is so narrow minded. Music is comes from emotion and peace and community aren’t the only two emotions that exist.
Music can be about love, about pain, about sadness, about hate. And just because it is about hate doesn’t mean its a brain-washing mechanism to force everyone who comes into contact with it to be a murder.
Thank you. I was coming in here to say the same thing (I don’t comment here ever either).
I have so much contempt for #2…
I gained a lot of respect for Manson after I heard and saw him in “Bowling for Columbine”, he was probably the most articulate in the film.
Saying someone’s music prompted kids to shoot up schools is avoiding the REAL issues and going the easy route in terms of who’s fault it was.
Eric and Dylan were both mentally unstable and bullied throughout high school, simple thing is those bullies picked the wrong kids to mess with. Also the bullies being high school jocks were probably let go with no punishment because they played a sport for the school.
At my high school the teachers let the football team get away with everything, even when one member punched a narc in the face and knocked her out. I wouldn’t be surprised if Columbine High School did the same.
It was the school’s fault for not taking action against the bullies immediately. But they don’t want to be blamed, so who is at fault?
Marilyn Manson.
On top of that in my Nirvana biography, the author talks about how Cobain was a vent for teenage frustration in the early 90′s specifically BECAUSE he would scream. Music can be a voice for anger, but not a trigger for violence.
Wow long rant, either way this article is terrible. Though I do agree Glee is horrid, thank God Damon Albarn never agreed to let them ruin a Gorillaz song.
Yeah #2 really bothered me personally. When I was their age I wore all black and leather trenchcoats, I listened (and still do) to a lot of metal, most of which makes MM and Rammstein seem tame by comparison. I also play a lot of violent video games, and guess what I never killed or hurt anyone (outside of the occasional mosh pit elbow).
I definitely agree!!! If the musical artist is placing their anger and aggression out in a song it’s not meant for the listener to go and act on whatever aggression the artist is putting forth. I’m tired of Manson taking a beating for what those dumb kids did. He didn’t tell them to go shoot up their school. At the end of the day it’s the responsibility of the listener’s actions that should be held accountable not the artist. This only seems to be said about music of certain genres (rock, emo, metal, etc.). You never hear “Oh so-and-so was listening to this artist before she leaped off the building” or “He was listening to some slow jams before he went out and raped that girl” LOL apparently music isn’t as influential as people think because if it were then there would be a lot less hate in the world but still the world is hateful no matter what words about love are preached thru song. This was a sh!tty and opinionated list. BOOOO!!!
Yes, just watch American Psycho! Phil Collins have to worry…
I’ve listened to Manson and Rammstein for 10 years now. I didn’t understand the lyrics for a long time ( before the Internet, and because I am French and bad for languages, as you can see ) but it was such a relief for me to hear emotions in music at the end of my *****ty day at school, and my *****ty evening at home. I still remember the first time I heard Marilyn Manson, or Nine Inch Nails… It’s love at first sight, and you can feel the same for a picture or a book, even if you don’t fully understand it. It’s still art. And I need heavy guitars and basses, and a strong masculine voice to make me feel good ( even after my yoga class ).
I agree with everything except using them in Glee and in the case of marilyn manson. there are other more sinister bands that use music to preach hate like the white supremacist blood and honor.
You disagree with Glee covering great songs and turning them into complete garbage?
Glee is the scourge of humanity and those wannadivas are worse than the Kidz Bop crew.
At least the Glee people have gone through puberty……
It is more about what it represents,glee did more in helping lessen the prejudice against lgbt that any other show and if they have to butcher some songs to do it then I am ok with it.
Good point, odin. Jane Lynch came out of a series of movies starring some actors who seem to genuinely enjoy work9ng together like Michael McKean and Harry Shearer and about a dozen others. And most of these movies (A Mighty Wind, Waiting for Guffman, Best in Show) feature alt-*****ed characters. I love all these movies. Now I’ve never seen but about four minutes of Glee, but I’m in favor of the show anyway because I’m a proponent of anything that improves people’s lives without hurting anyone. And while it doesn’t interest me enough to seek it out (I’d have to find old episodes on the Net; I dont have a TV right now), I applaud any show that strives to make the world a little safer and better for glbt people.
Very unfortunate. I don’t like this list. #1 and #2 are a reflection of the poster’s closed-mindedness. Sampling in Hip Hop is a distinct feature of that genre of music. Only critics of the genre who don’t give it a chance complain about sampling. Fans understand that it is more a way to pay homage to the song sampled. Other Hip Hop fans like myself never have the connotation that the artist has the intention of hiding the fact that they are sampling another song. Also, about #2, I can’t call myself a fan of death metal or music like Marilyn Manson’s. But I do appreciate it’s presence and recognize that their is a place for music like that. The “prime” example is more like a poor example of the actions of a couple people. There are thousands of fans and people who listen to that genre of music that do not act violently or feel aggressive and evil. I understand that aggression in the music may even be an outlet for the aggressive feelings in their fans, aggression that’s in everyone. I am a BIG fan of Listverse. I have never commented on the hundreds of lists I’ve loved or disliked (which is less often the case) , but had to on this one.
well put and agree totally.
“Fans understand that it is more a way to pay homage to the song sampled”
So an entire industry based on paying homage? Come on! We arent idiots. It’s just like potheads asking to legalize ***** for medicinal use. I did not know the hip hop industry is full with such respectful and nostalgic people, that want permenantly to pay homage to their great forerunners. Even the law said that sampled songs have to have a license. A normal thing. If i want to pay homage to the american people by putting their flag on my toilet (because indoor plumbing is very important to me, a sign of how civilized we are) I’ll ask before doing it to see if they agree. I wont put it on my toilet, then say hey look. Homage people. Homage.
For me sampling happens cuz the singer likes a bit of a song, and wants to use it. If you call that homage, then me illegaly downloading movies is also homage or kids copy pasting their homework is also homage. I kinda doubt Kanye west worships the ground a french group walks on.
Also you should have bothered to actually read and *understand* the words that you are reading. He clearly states ” The flip side of music feeding lowly desires is the use of music as a scapegoat for what negative feelings already exist”. So Manson is a scapegoat (aka who dunnit? Not him.). The author is on Mason’s side( Ofcourse he says some other dumb stuff about doom but thats beyond the point you are making).
“had to on this one” lucky us. But you shouldn’t have.
sampling is a result of reggae versions (some call them dubs. not to be confused with dub reggae)- where an artist would release an instrumental version of his song and ppl would sing their own lyrics over it. In rap, little hits, horn riffs, or 4, 8, or 16 bar drum patterns would be cut back and forth between two turntables to create the flowing beat. It is based in homage, but industry had run away with it in the 90′s + and it’s lost it’s original flavour. Rap you hear today is a product; not an art.
“Rap you hear today is a product; not an art.”
I fully agree.
Just because you are too old to get it and like it doesn’t make it bad.
I agree Arsnl. Like Nas said , Hip Hop is dead.
“So an entire industry based on paying homage? ” E wrote “more a way to pay homage” If only you understood English…
So that’s what’s in your “Arsenal”.. Just a fistful of irrelevant metaphors and nonsense comparisons, just like our friend Ryan Thomas, I see. Your interpretation of what sampling is should be completely disregarded because you obviously have never even given Hip Hop a chance if you can’t understand this elementary part of the genre. I guess it is unfortunate that you may not have been exposed to really great Hip Hop music and you are not to blame for that. But my advice is to save yourself the embarrassment next time and only speak of what you know. I highly recommend you just see for yourself. Watch a few interviews of Hip Hop artists, listen to their music. They actually are very respectful and nostalgic and have a tremendous adoration for the artists they sample. And like others have mentioned here, what isn’t sampled? Considering the medium that Hip Hop uses, it is more obvious I guess that things are sampled. But every other genre does it too. What is truly original? Nothing. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Like MFpen mentioned. Music evolves. Sampling is also done in every other medium of art. Heard of mixed media and pop art? And about the whole Marilyn Manson thing. He still does cast a negative light on this genre of music, it’s #2 on his list. Thanks for *****yzing every single word in my comment though. You may have caught that I used one of the wrong “theres” there too. Just don’t cast off a whole genre of music, or anything else for that matter because you’ve jumped to conclusions with no experience or basis for doing so.
*****yzing* Sorry, don’t know what happened there.
Well, I’ve listened to rap, tried my best to understand its values, evaluated its artists, and it’s still crap. It feeds listeners random immoral sh*t and is generally *****ist and racist. Plus, it’s not really even singing. The only good rapper is Illogic, his lyrics are poetry. So, overall, rap is tasteless and vain with rare exeptions.
wooow…I feel sorry for your unintelligence…what rap did you try listening to exactly? because the rap I listen to has nothing to do with what you just described…you’re sadly ignorant and I hope one day you can think with an open mindset…until then be careful because I truly feel sorry for your brain
I agree with you, Danielle. I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Couldn’t agree with you more Danielle.
I always get the feeling that Ryan Thomas is trolling with his lists.
No one here is mentioning the fact that sampling is just like it sounds. The artist merely takes a “sample” of the song he has legal rights to use, then builds on it with it music and lyrics that are entirely his own. Otherwise, it would entirely be the original song, which is how you critics make it sound. The majority of the song is ORIGINAL and in most of the cases I’ve heard, given the fact that the sample limits the direction they can go in somewhat, the end result is pretty badass.
I agree so much. An artist takes music and transforms it to become something Better in their opinion. It is fun to hunt down old music to sample, renew, and build on too.
I definitely agree as well..
JFrater! I know this isn’t one of your own lists. But it just looks so bad next to all the great ones in Listverse. It’s impossible to be completely objective, but this poster doesn’t even try. Maybe this list should be removed if possible. Not a good look.
Damn enjoyable list. On the sampling issue, for some reason I thought of Janet Jackson one of her songs used a snippett of America’s song. I believe Ventura highway ( I think) which it took me awhile to figure out. I just found it really odd. Does Orange Crush by REM count as food. just kidding, just kidding.
Nah..I don’t think REM’s “Orange Crush” counts. Another hit song that became a drink was Donovan’s “Mellow Yellow”…and that little tune praised the “electrical banana”, a sudden craze//very next phase that lasted about 45 minutes.
“Music is meant to inspire peace and a sense of community”
I call bull*****. Music isn’t meant to do anything.
Also, saying rappers steal from other artists just cements them even more as a genuine genre, because guess what? Most songs are at the very least ‘inspired by’, or at the worst complete rip-offs of other songs.
As a substitute for today’s list, I would like to propose a list of my own:
“Top 10 Inappropriate Uses of List-Format Articles”
Tip of the hat: number one is “To try and assert your better taste in music”
” Most songs are at the very least ‘inspired by’, or at the worst complete rip-offs of other songs.”
There’s a difference between stealing and being proud to be a theif. Or saying stealing is a way to express oneself, or it is homage. If you steal atleast have the guts to say: look i was too busy to come up with something by myself.
Chill out dude, you obviously don’t know much about sampling as a whole. It’s beyond me that people with no knowledge, or even desire to learn can come in and tell artists about themselves.
If you don’t like sampling then you don’t like it, but don’t tell people they’re thieves because YOU don’t understand it.
Also, almost every Classic Rock group “stole” from artists like Little Richard and Chuck Berry.
Go to “whosampled.com” and type in any band, Led Zeppelin, the Beatles, Pink Floyd, The Beach Boys.They all sampled music and other things in their music.
I guess by your standards, Andy Warhol isn’t an artist at all, but a thief.
Horribly ignorant opinion on hip-hop. Listen to Wu Tang, Jedi Mind Control, Jurassic 5 & Sage Francis before you write such tripe about an awesome genre of music. Thanks
Thank you! All this hate spewed towards hip-hop and rap is really aggravating. I know that it’s not for everyone, and it doesn’t need to be, but most of these people sound is if they have never listened to rap or hip-hop other than what they hear in passing, yet are criticising at is if they have an expert knowledge of it. If you don’t like it, fine, but to write-off a WHOLE genre of music. and say it’s not music at all – that’s just pitiful.
I think you mean jedi mind tricks
vinnie paz baby
Sampling is music evolving. It’s the same as making music. You’re still finding sounds, still creating something new, and still expressing yourself. Glee can burn and Kidz Bop is a joke.
Number 2 displays a lack of objectivity. Number 1 shows a complete ignorance of the artistic forms of sampling present in MANY genres (including but not limited to hip hop). Hearing a few less than stellar Kanye songs doesn’t put anyone in a position to dismiss an entire genre of music. Do your research next time.
Seriously, what i got out of #1 was “Because Kanye is a horrible human being, all rap is bad” Which doesn’t make any damn sense!
I didn’t care for this list either, the first 3 or so were fine but it still all reeked of pretentiousness.
Try to share your knowledge without shoving your personal opinions on a very subjective topic down our throats next time Ryan!
Music should be created as it is?
So math should be created as it is?
Physics should be studied as it is?
Biology should be studied as it is?
Dude you don’t know what is the application of knowledge do you?
Using your #1 to rag on Kanye West is your opinion, but suffice it to say he is one of the musical geniuses of our generation and is one of a small small few artists working to progress their genre of music. He is maybe the best hip-hop/rap producer of all time and is still going strong. He uses a few samples but really he has never used a whole song except two or three times, and his samples are very tiny and always licensed besides the lawsuit you’re mentioning. If you disagree that the man is a musical genius then you flat out have not listened to the instrumentation, complex harmonies, and complex syncopated rhythms that dominate most of his albums. Especially the very recent ones. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is a work of art.
haha i agree with the gist of it…but to say kanye west is the best hip hop producer of all time is silliness. Every heard of a guy named DJ Premier? Maybe J Dilla? Pete Rock? 9th Wonder?
Hello mr. West, I see you’ve found your way to the internet.
THE BEST HIP HOP ARTIST OF ALL TIME! OF ALL TIME!!!
lol.
didn’t see where I said he was the best artist… but for best producer I’d say he definitely makes a damn good shot at being it.
You cheapen the meaning of the word genius. To call Kanye a ‘musical genius’ is to punch Mozart in the nut sack.
real genius is Lady Gaga, not some kwest
I agree even if you’re trolling.
She can sing, she writes her own songs, and she can play the piano amazingly.
Not trolling. She’s an amazing role model. She’s a dumpy big nosed girl whose fought her way to the very top through hard work and sheer gritted teeth determination. That’s a great message to young girls. She might flash the flesh sometimes but she’s never played the “pretty” card really…which will be beneficial for her career and celebrity as she ages. She really wants to encourage and support her fans, she’s not just lost in herself
Dude, even Eminem is better than Kanye West. And Eminem SUCKS! The best rappers are Ilogic and Ice Cube.
you’re a fool…Eminem sucks? do you not understand bar structure? rhyme schemes? clearly not…Eminem raps circles around Ice Cube, and even Ice Cube himself will tell you that…that’s what’s funny about Eminem…non-artists hate on him…but ask ANY artist who the best rapper is, who they are the most afraid of…they say Eminem..yes even Ice Cube…geez I feel bad for you…you just simply do not understand rap so please do not speak on the subject
These are mostly based on your opinions, and I respect that. But I don’t agree to numbers 5, 7, and 8. In advertising, songs/jingles are used for brand recall, and I say this is a pretty powerful approach, at least where I live.
You said it.
I know first hand.
Good list. I completely agree with all these points, especially the top 2. Being a metal-head no.2 is quite a big one for me. And number one ….. It s**ts me to tears! I just don’t understand how people can get into it.
Anyway, good list!
What you’ve written about Hip Hop and sampling is incredibly ignorant. Listen to DJ Shadow’s Endtroducing as a seminal example of sampling and then have a little rethink.
THANK YOU! I want outrage until it’s changed haha but seriously
10-2 was an AWESOME list. I didn’t even know what to expect when I clicked on it and every single one 10-2 I said “good one”. Then it probably has the worst #1 of all time. You should have just said Hip Hop, because you clearly just hate Rappers. I don’t listen to much mainstream Rap but I’m a big Hip Hop fan and some of the best beats of all time are sampled. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many beats have samples in them. LITERALLY the WORST #1 in listverse history (there are some other bad ones) but the level of personal imput and not objectiveness is boarderline unprofessional. To say the most inappropriate (or inappropriate at all) use of music, over torture and spreading hate and all the other horrible things, you choose something that has had a HUGE affect in Hip Hop culture and is widely love by HIP HOP FANS. YOUR NOT A HIP HOP FAN. And that’s fine…but don’t call it a inappropriate use of must…never mind THE MOST inappropriate use. It’s annoying me so bad it’s ridiculous…haha WOW!
Chuch. ***** this lister
This is the single most pretentious, ignorant list I’ve ever laid eyes on. The lister clearly has ZERO understanding of the music industry at all. At the end of the day, it really is about making money for yourself and the record labels, which is fine. The concept of “artistic integrity” is really tired to me and is really an annoying thing that real artists must get past. One can still write honest songs and make money with them. If you have to cater to pop sensibilities to pay the bills, that’s not stopping you from writing others as artistic outlets.
Also, what does it really matter? People act like music is SOooOooOo important all the time… it’s not. It’s entertainment. I’m saying all these things as a professional musician/producer who knows and sees frequently how the music industry works. It’s not easy for anyone to make a living, so I say if you want your song featured in the next bacardi ad for a hefty paycheck, I’m thrilled for you!
“At the end of the day, it really is about making money for yourself and the record labels”
Thank you! It drives me nuts when a successful band complains when their music is “commercialized” because they don’t make music “for the money”. That’s fine if you don’t sign with a record label. Don’t they read the contract that they signed? Is it a surprise when the record company that THEY SIGNED with wants to use their music to make money?
Also, when I was single I stood clear of guys that took music too seriously. By that I mean that they singled out a song and would claim “that song is ME”. It really speaks to ME and only refers to ME”. Two good examples are “On the dark side” and “In the air tonight”. It’s ok to appreciate the message but when it’s taken to THAT extreme it’s, it’s, I dunno the word.
When I previewed this post, I realized it made me come across as someone who is making fun of someone just because they like a song. That’s not the case. I think you’d have to see how those people acted to understand what I’m talking about.
Didn’t really like this list…I didn’t feel that it was objective in the least.
Who the Fu** are you, the fun police?
One you forgot that should have been number one. This year, Anders Breivik (the Norway massacre architect for those who live under a rock) confessed to playing Requiem for a Dream while on his rampage. I believe that to be a fairly inappropriate use of music.
ur an ***** for the sampling one u dont understand anything about rap music. They get permission and give credit on Cd. But u ilegally download anyway….
wow, bad list. one and two are completly bigoted. seven and eight both fall under five. and what is this ***** that avideo games inspired the columbine? also, music itself is only a product.
Music is art, and it doesn’t need to conform to some pretentious music snob’s perception of what it should or shouldn’t do. Music doesn’t have to ” do” anything or “be” anything. Entry #2 makes me ill, music is emotion and passion and intensity and music doesn’t have to be all rainbows and sunshine in order to be valid, just like paintings like Guernica, and Saturn devouring his son aren’t discredited as art because they depict darkness or suffering. Placing stipulation on music is like placing stipulations on art which is, almost by definition, censorship. Let music be glorious music, let it exist and thrive however and wherever it wants, because if we surpress it we ruin all that it truly is.
You are a breath of fresh. I agree with your comment completely.
This list falls short of what’s expected from this website. It imposes declared angles.
this list should have been titled, “things that ***** me off that are somewhat related to music”. this author is upset about everything concerning music except for when it is used for what he feels is appropriate. get off of your high horse.
your disdain for all sorts of things are evident in the above collection of liberal talking points and not just music. the bias against the millitary, corporations, the rap genre, anyone who makes money off of music (unless they are a “struggling artist”) is dripping to the point of annoyance.
come up with reasons that these things are inappropriate, besides just your personal opinion, and we might take it a little more seriously.
“”He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.” A. Einstein.
Now that’s disdain for military. His whole point should have been this quote and such a beautiful quote it is.
let’s not confuse genius with wisdom. just because einstein’s name is attached doesn’t mean that this quote is any less detached from the real world than the occupy wall street rebels.
i’m quite confident that mr. einstein was thankful for the patriotism and brutality that helped rid the world of nazism.
I’m sorry but list-writer, you’re an idiot.
Anybody who really knows music will know why.
While I agree with some of the items, such as Kidz Bob, Glee (of which I absolutely loathe) and selling of products…the writing style loses me again. Would have been better without so much sarcasm and vitriol.
Good topic, not so well executed.
Great list.
First – 4 of the items are about selling stuff: food, beer (as opposed to other alcoholic products or beverages), celebrity, and “anything else” (which is oddly worse than any of the other things that music is used to sell). And yet, music exists to sell… itself. When you buy a CD, an MP3, a concert ticket, or a song sheet – you are, in fact, buying something because of that music.
Second – the whole attitude of what music should and shouldn’t be used for is ridiculous. An artist recognizes that their art is interpretive and that once it leaves their presence, it can be used, interpreted, and personalized in a million different ways – whether that is to “spread hate and aggression” or “to sign people up for the military” or “to promote a politician” (something I find more offensive than anything else on the list).
Finally – sampling? Besides offending all the rap, dance, and electronica folks out there, you do realize that there’s sampling going on everywhere, right? Sure, it may be called “covering” or “giving a shout out” or “downright thievery”, but it’s out there. Just look at Pachelbel’s Canon in D – the single most copied song in the history of forever. Do you know how many songs follow the pattern of I-V-vi-iii-IV-I-IV-V (aka D-A-Bm-F#m-G-D-G-A in the major chord of D)?
Hey – you want to know what I think is the worst thing to ever happen to music? Record companies. Followed by the RIAA.
Number 1 and 2 are evidently biased. First, I really hate modern rap / hip-hop or whatever it is called these days (I like early 90′s stuff though), but sampling is far from being the worst music use these days. It’s actually harmless. Second, as a rock / metal fan, the thing about “music is supposed to inspire peace and a sense of community and baskets full of puppies” thing is absolutely outrageous. Music is a portrait of the world and every emotion can and should be in it. Happiness, anger, sadness, joy. If someone is influenced by a certain band , or a video-game to commit murder, the problem is obviously this particular person. I still listen to Rammstein and played a lot of Doom back in the day. Never killed anyone.
What a valid point, music can be an expression of anything you want it to be.
And rammstein are a great band if you like heavy music and I am yet to commit any crimes… That I know of
Read Marilyn Manson’s view also on Columbine- http://www.antilife.org/files/marilyn.html
Profound!
He shouldn’t even have to defend himself let alone his music because of some self-loathing teenagers.
“…music-listeners who perpetuate their bitterness and rage through sycophantic music, rather than channeling it properly. ”
Who are you to decide what type of music is channeling ‘it’ properly? Rammstein evil music? Aggressive, I’d agree with… evil? Come on.
Also, you didn’t even mention what was once ‘edgy’ or ‘satanic’ music being used at sporting events. Who could have imagined 30 years ago that Ozzy – “Crazy Train” would be heard at just about every American sporting event today. Did Marilyn Manson ever guess that “The Beautiful People” would be a popular sporting event song as well?
what a douche. how many rock and rollers ‘sampled’ people’s music and gave no credit. how many country songs have the same music playing. just cause you don’t like rap doesn’t mean anything except that you can write one of the worst lists ever on this website
this list rivals some of this websites most asanine and misaligned lists ive ever read. ……… and i was excited at first…. oouchan got it exactly right……… great idea, sihtty execution……….
Thank you! This author has had some great ideas for a list, but KILLS it with how it’s written. Got to do better with the listverse audience.
It’s like Tippy Gore and some failed untallented “rea” musicianl knocked out author and finished list themselves
Guy in fat suit: If you were to talk directly to the kids at Columbine or the people in that community, what would you say to them if they were here right now?
Marilyn Manson: I wouldn’t say a single word to them. I would listen to what they have to say, and that’s what no one did.
author is 80 y.o. or a ‘so-called’ hater.
Please!
I am nowhere near 80, but you can’t assume age makes a person automatically dislike music of any sort, or think in a muddled fashion. I think Ryan Thomas is quite young. He certainly has unformed (not to mention un*in*formed ideas – just read some of his past lists.). Being young does not automatically make make someone either uninformed nor have unformed ideas, it just takes being an idiot to think that way.
Top 10 Inappropriate Uses of Listverse:
10. This terrible, ignorant, subjective list.
9-1. Other things much worse than this list.
This list writer is so far off base, they have little idea what they are talking about… Music has, and always will be, an expression of the artist personal views, experiences, and taste. While I agree that “unauthorized” use wrong, (especially for financial gain, torture, or political reasons), “sampling” or “covering” has always been a part of it. Nothing is “original” all music or even “art” in general, is borrowed from someone else. That’s how it works. Take something from this piece, a little from that piece, maybe a line from a poem, or a style that makes sense, put it all together and call it yours.. Anyone that doesn’t understand this concept doesn’t understand art..
Although I agree with most of the list (I hate kidz bop thank you for that), but #5 not sure on that one. I work for an advertisement firm and commercials with jingles or songs are more successful than advertisements with a storyline. And if you haven’t checked there are millions of people who are dying to download songs they heard in commercials. One example is a sony ericcson commercial which had a german song called gatka or something like that overnight people suddenly people wanted to download the song and video. And if good music is spread through a medium (even if it is to the benefit of the rich) is a good thing don’t you think.
For the past year or so, in the U.S. (not sure if it’s international) there has been a Subaru commercial promoting some sort of minivan, in which we see the thing packed full of kids being dropped off at their hockey game by their folks (packing the car, hockey sticks falling out, etc).
The appropriate song they picked to underscore this cutesy ad? The Pogues’ “If I Should Fall From Grace With God”. Not only blasphemous to Pogues fans, but completely odd and inappropriate for the content and honestly just plain weird! But y’know, it does have a kicky beat!
Wow #1
rarely is anything new actually generated. Has to be the most idiotic sentence from the whole list. Also how you can call sampling a “crime” in the modern era of having to clear every sample before release. Thats right this “crime” is bieng perpetrated with the blessing of the original artist (in most cases)
You should not publish an article on something you obviosly know very little about.
TESTIFY!
While were at it, lets line up, Rhiana, Miley cirus, Justin Beeber and all the other crappy pop/rap groups , against a wall and fire at will!
Rock,alternative, progressive,physcadellic, maybe a bit of techno and any thing similar is real music (Y)
This list = Concentrated win !
Possibly the worst list I’ve ever seen on here. As a musician myself I cannot believe the author’s sheer ignorance.
agreed – The author claims to have some dominion or authority on how a universal art form like music should be used? Garbage. I’ve been coming to Listverse for a very long time, and this is by far, the worst, dumbest, most biased list I’ve ever seen here. On the list of worst listverse lists, this is #1.
‘Music is meant to inspire peace and a sense of community’
I really wanted to right a long winded rant on this, but i think you’ve shown your ignorance well enough.
Terrible List.
#2 is an insult to Rammstein. The band may have heavy sounding guitar riffs but surely they are not “evil-sounding”. This is the most “close minded” list I have ever read so far since I started visiting this site last year. Try listening to all the Rammstein songs, even though you might not understand its lyrics, to see for yourself.
I agree man. Rammstein may sound evil to the author because of Till Lindemann’s (the band’s vocalist) very deep voice, and even though a few of their songs are about violence, they don’t necessarily mean that they spread aggression.
To the author:
This is one of the best songs of Rammstein. This video also has the english translation so that you may understand its meaning.
Pretty sure Ryan wasn’t complaining about Rammstein, but it being played loudly in a continuous loop as torture? Big time. Torture is evil.
I love this band. My favorites are Ich Will and Du Hast. Thanks for sharing another good one.
^Agreed. Like RATM too.
Well done to the author! I’ve never seen so much fury without talking about religion or politics…….. Bravo!
Kanye is hip pop, kids rap, just like his buddy Jay zzzzzz
Actually the Columbine massacre wasn’t inspired by Doom or indeed any other game. The only link is that the killers had played Doom and created maps for it (which may have resembled their school). However at the time the killings happened it would be difficult to find a kid their age who was into technology who hadn’t played Doom, just like it’s hard to find a kid nowadays who hasn’t played COD. Games had about as much to do with it as Marylin Manson did.
This is list is biased
Music can spread hate and aggression? Who are you? Censor of the year? You actually think listening to Rammstein or even playing computer games is going to make people kill others? Are you insane?
Are you going to decide on what exactly is hateful music? Who will?
On that note: which books exactly should I burn? And let me know which paintings, sculptures etc. should be removed from walls, pillars etc.
Of course you have famous predecessors to your little censorship ideas. Many before you have attempted to draw outlines to what is acceptable in the world of art. Here’s a quote of one of your colleagues, Joseph Goebbels:
“In future only those who are members of a chamber are allowed to be productive in our cultural life. Membership is open only to those who fulfill the entrance condition. In this way all unwanted and damaging elements have been excluded.”
Remove this freakin’ list.
I concur.
” Here’s a quote of one of your colleagues, Joseph Goebbels”
Hallelujah. We have reached the godwin point in about 5h1/2. Congratulations. Where’s the champagne? Can you declare you the loser of this argument? Im not sure what the consequences of reaching this point are? This surely proves you have no understanding of history or normal comparisons.
Worst. List. Ever. Americans are fat so that’s why they write musc about food. What a joke. Americans are fat because the only food thats available for the common population is processed crap fill with corn syrup, sugar and deep fried. I’m going to write a list of the worst listverse lists…
“The moralist music list”. It’s sad to aknowledge the fact tha to this day people to this day is still trying to say what is right and what is wrong in terms of what one does with his art. By the middle of the list i was asking myself: “where is the ‘sampling is a crime’ entry?”