Ever since the American President John F. Kennedy was killed, wild rumours, conspiracy theories, and speculation has existed over the killer. According to the Warren Commission, Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone assassin. This is a list of 11 people who are accused by any one of these theories to be the “real” killer.
1. Lucien Sarti and Two Corsican Hitmen
According to jailed French mobster, Christian David, Kennedy was shot by three Corsican assassins. David named the deceased Sarti as one of the gunmen and offered to reveal the identities of the others if he was given his freedom. According to David, the two unnamed assassins were in buildings to the rear of the President, while Sarti fired from the grassy knoll in front of the motorcade. The British television documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy identified Sarti as the man in a police uniform apparently firing a rifle on the grassy knoll visible in a computer-enhanced enlargement of a photo taken by Mary Moorman at the moment of the fatal shot.
2. Charles V Harrelson
Harrelson – the father of actor Woody Harrelson – served a life sentence from 1979 until his death in March, 2007, for murdering a federal judge John H Wood Jr. during a six hour stand-off before his arrest, Harrelson held a gun to his head and confessed to shooting Kennedy. He later retracted the statement, saying he had been high on cocaine at the time.
3. ‘Carlos’ and Others
David Ferrie (left) and Oswald (right)
Minister Raymond Broshears reported that David Ferrie – a bizarre individual often suspected of involvement in the assissination who had ties to Oswald, the CIA, and the Mafia – would, after getting drunk, often talk about his role in the conspiracy. Ferrie reported said his job was to wait in Houston for two gunmen, one of them a Cuban exile Ferrie referred to as Carlos, and then fly them on the second leg of an escape route that was to take the assassins to South African via South America. Ferrie told Broshears the plan fell apart when the assassins, flying in a light plane, decided to skip the stop in Houston and press on to Mexico. They allegedly died when their plane crashed near Corpus Christi, Texas.
4. Luis Angel Castillo
According to assassination researcher Penn Jones, Castillo has stated under hypnosis that “he was on the parade route with a rifle that day … [with] instructions to shoot a man in a car with red roses”. Jackie Kennedy was the only person in the motorcade with red roses; all other women had been given yellow Texas roses.
5. Eladio Del Valle and Loran Hall
According to “Harry Dean” (the ‘war name’ of a man who claims to be a former CIA agent), as quoted by W.B. Morris and R.B. Cutler in Alias Oswald, the assassins were anti-Castro activists Hall and del Valle, who were hired by the John Birch Society. Although Hall says he was at his home in California on November 22, 1963, he allegedly told the Dallas Morning News in 1978 that, a month before the assassination, right-wing activists working with the CIA tried to recruit him for a plot to kill Kennedy. As for del Valle, he died under suspicious circumstances in 1967. Del Valle, who was being searched for as a possible witness in the Clay Shaw conspiracy trial, was discovered shot through the heart and with his head split open by a machete.
6. ‘Brother-In-Law’ and ‘Slim’
In 1992 Kerry Thornley appeared on the television show A Current Affair and said he had been part of a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy. His co-comspirators were two men he called ‘Brother-in-Law’ and ‘Slim’. Thornley also denied having been responsible for framing Oswald, whom Thornley had befriended in the Marines: ‘I would gladly have killed Kennedy, but I would never have betrayed Oswald.’ He added, ‘I wanted [Kennedy] dead. I would have shot him myself.’ Thornley has also claimed that he and Oswald were the products of a genetic engineering experiment carried out by a secret neo-Nazi sect of eugenicists called the Vril Society, and that the two of them had been manipulated since childhood by Vril overlords.
7. Jean Rene Soutre
Soutre, a terrorist in the French Secret Army Organisation, is believed by some researchers to have been recruited by the CIA to serve as an assassin. According to CIA documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act by researcher Mary Ferrell, French intelligence reported that Soutre was in Fort Worth on the morning of November 22, 1963, and in Dallas that afternoon. Soutre was picked up by US authorities in Texas within 48 hours of the assassination and expelled from the country.
8. Roscoe White, ‘Saul’, and ‘Lebanon’
In 1990 Ricky White claimed his father Roscoe, a Dallas police officer, had been one of President Kennedy’s assassins. According to Ricky, a detailed description of the conspiracy could be found in Roscoe’s diary, which had disappeared after it was taken by the FBI for inspection. Two other gunmen, referred to in the diary only by the code names ‘Saul’ and ‘Lebanon’, were also involved. In addition Roscoe’s widow, Geneva, told journalist Ron Laytner that she had overheard Roscoe and Jack Ruby plotting to kill Kennedy, adding, ‘We at first thought the assassination was more Mob [but late realised] it was more CIA.’ Fifteen years before Ricky and Geneva White went public, Hugh McDonald, in Appointment in Dallas, identified one of the Killers as a professional assassin known as Saul. McDonald claimed to have tracked down Saul, who admitted to having been paid $50,000 to shoot the President. Saul claimed to have fired from the Dallas County Records Building – which was also described in Roscoe White’s diary as one of the locations the assassins had shot from. Despite these similarities, there are some inconsistencies in the plots described by McDonald and Ricky White. Most Notably, Roscoe White in his diary and Saul in his meeting with McDonald each allegedly claimed to have fired the fatal shot.
9. George Hickey Jr
According to Bonar Menninger’s book Mortal Error – based on 25 years of research by ballistics expert Howard Donahue – Kennedy was accidentally killed by Hickey, a secret service agent in the car behind the presidential limo. According to this theory, when Oswald began shooting, Hickey reached for his rifle and slipped off the safety. As he tried to stand in the back seat of the car to return fire, he lost his balance and accidentally pulled the trigger, firing the shot that killed the President. Hickey himself had told the Warren Commission that he did not even pick up his rifle until after the fatal shot.
10. Frank Sturgis and Operation 40
Marita Lorenz, a CIA operative who had been Fidel Castro’s mistress, told the New York Daily News in 1977 that she had accompanied Lee Harvey Oswald and an assassination squad to Dallas a few days before Kennedy was killed. She identified her companions in the trip as CIA operative (and future Watergate burglar) Frank Sturgis and four Cuban exiles: Orlando Bosch, Pedro Diaz Lang and two brothers named Novis. The men were members of ‘Operation 40′, a group of about 30 anti-Castro Cubans and their American advisors originally formed by the CIA in 1960 for the bay of Pigs invasion. Lorenz later stated that Sturgis had been one of the actual gunmen and that he told her after the assassination, ‘You could have been part of it – you know, part of history. You should have stayed. It was safe. Everything was covered in advance. No arrests, no real newspaper investigation. It was all covered, very professional.’ Sturgis denies that there is any truth to Lorenz’ story. However, he once said that the FBI questioned him about the assassination right after it happened, because the agents said, ‘Frank, if there’s anybody capable of killing the President of the United States, you’re the guy who can do it.’
11. James Files and Charles Nicoletti
In 1996 Files claimed that he and Nicoletti, a Mafia hit man, had been on the grassy knoll at Dealey Plaza and that they had both shot President Kennedy at the same time. Files said that he was paid $30,000 and had orders not to hit Jacqueline Kennedy. He added that Nicoletti took his order from Sam ‘Momo’ Jiancana, who in turn answered to Anthony ‘Big Tuna’ Accardo. Since all three mobsters were murdered between 1975 and 1977, there was no one to corroborate Files’ story. The FBI dismissed the story, noting that Files is now serving a 50 year sentence in Illinois for murdering a police man and thus had little to lose by ‘confessing’ while gaining his 15 minutes of fame.
Source: The Book of Lists
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What about George Bush Snr?
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Call me overly paranoid (you’re overly paranoid, fe) but it’s always seemed like with so many differing accounts and conspiracy theories, the oficial explanation that Oswald shot Kennedy is almost too simplistic to the true. Then again, Occam’s razor states that the simplest explanation is often the correct one.
you forgot stephen king. oh wait, he killed john lennon.
Fe: I agree with you – some of the arguments are very convincing.
Inanytime: haha
Are the vril overlords the same thing as thetans?
Mark D. Combs: It would certainly fit nicely into the scientology myth – that is for sure
The Red Dwarf (British Sci-Fi Show) version of the real JFK assassin is my favorite theory.
Basically, Lister and crew stumble through time and enter Dallas. They enter into the book depository where Lee Harvey Oswald was setting up his shot, but because the guys were there he had to move up one floor. The guys leave after the shot, but Kennedy is still alive. They come back and Dallas is a dead zone from Nuclear Fallout. This can’t happen, so they go back in time and kidnap Kennedy. They explain the situation and Kennedy becomes the second gunman on top of the grassy noll( or knoll, I can’t remember the spelling). So Kennedy actually assasinated himself so America could be saved from nuclear fallout. What a guy!
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Got the right shooters
James Files shot JFK from the grassy knoll using a remington fireball.
i killed kennedy using a bfg9000
Roam: It has been proven that Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated JFK. The gunshot wounds match the angle at which Oswald shot. Many tests have proven that Oswald could have got off his shots in time(HE WAS IN THE FRICKIN’ MARINES!!! HE IS TRAINED TO KILL!!!) and if James Files did shoot JFK from the grassy knoll, JFK’s head wouldn’t have rocked the way it did. It was proven on “Penn & Teller: BULLS***!”
ITS SCIENCE!!!!
The bullet that entered Kennedy’s back penetrated to only a finger’s length deep. It did not exit, therefore it did not go on to strike Governor Connally, therefore the magic bullet theory is a myth.
The Warren Commission conducted a test on 7 men to see if nitrate deposits would have been left on their cheeks by the mannlicher carcano rifle. After firing the mannlicher carcano, all 7 men had detectable nitrate deposits on their cheeks. Lee harvey Oswald was tested for nitrate deposits on his cheek. He didnt have any.
Lee harvey Oswald, based on all of the eyewitness evidence, was not on the 6th floor at the time of the shooting. The last eyewitness to see him before the assassination, saw him on the 2nd floor, and the first eyewitness to see him after the assassination, also saw him on the 2nd floor. Therefore, based on the eyewitness evidence, there is NO evidence placing Oswald on the 6th floor at the time of the murder. A high ranking Dallas Police official said years later: “Nobody yet has been able to place Oswald in that window (6th floor window) with that rifle in his hands doing the shooting.” He’s right. Nobody has ever placed oswald on the 6th floor at the time of the murder. All evidence places him on the 2nd floor.
There were NO FRESH FINGERPRINTS on the rifle, therefore there is NO EVIDENCE that Oswald fired that rifle on November 22nd.
Firing a rifle, isnt like riding a bike. If you do not practice, you lose your ablity to accurately fire a rifle.
There is NO evidence that Oswald regularly practiced with the mannlicher carcano.
President Kennedy and Governor Connally were hit by seperate bullets, and since the mannlicher could not have fired fast enough to account for the two shots that hit Kennedy and Connally seperately, it means that there were TWO assassins to the rear of the motorcade.
The Grassy Knoll gunman fired the fatal shot. Independent acoustic tests in 1979 and 2001 both scientifically prove that a shot came from the knoll.
NOT ONE eyewitness said that Kennedy’s face was blown off, yet the auotpsy x-rays show the right side of Kennedy’s face missing. The autopsy evidence was not the true account of what occured in Dealey Plaza. The truth is that the right REAR of Kennedy’s head was blown off. Jackie Kennedy, SS Agent Clint Hill, Dealey Plaza eyewitnesses, every Doctor and nurse at Parkland hospital and Bethesda naval hospital all describe this wound. Yet in one autopsy photo, the area that all of these witnesses said was gone showed no evidence of any wound. Again, the autopsy evidence was faked, and the ARRB in the 90′s concluded that there were TWO brains studied, that were labeled as Kennedy’s.
GunSmoke was seen and smelled on the grassy knoll. Shots were heard coming from the knoll. The blood splatter evidence traces the origin of the fatal shot to the grassy knoll. The acoustic evidence places a shot as coming from the grassy knoll. While everyone else was running TOWARDS the knoll after the shooting, a man was seen running AWAY from the knoll, and he was carrying something.
Dealey plaza railroad monitor Lee Bowers saw “a flash of smoke or light” come from the grassy knoll at the time of the shots.
Wtinesses who raced up the knoll were stopped by men identifying themselves as Secret Service men. The SS admitted that none of their men were in the area at the time. So someone was IMPERSONATING SS men in the area where gunshots were heard to come from, where smoke was seen, where gunpowder was smelled, where hundreds of footprints going in every direction, as if someone was pacing back and forth, were seen, where used cigarette butts were seen, where muddy footprints on the picket fence and on the rear bumper of an automobile parked all the way up against the fence was seen.
Lets for a minute speculate on the true scenario of the jfk killing..
3 gunmen were involved.
They were:
Michel Mertz on the Grassy Knoll
Herminio Diaz Garcia in the Dal-Tex building
Mac Wallace in the book depository
(Wallace’s fingerprint was found on one of the boxes on the 6th floor)
Lee harvey oswald was not a communist. He was working to assassinate Fidel castro, in fact the reason why Oswald went to the Texas Theater after the assassination was in order to meet his contact, who was going to take him to Cuba, to be used in a Castro assassination attempt in early December.
Your second paragraph contradicts your first. So I stopped there. If Oswald didn't shoot any bullets at all, then he wouldn't have shot the bullet that didn't go all the way through. Pick one – either he didn't shoot, or the bullet he fired didn't go through. You don't get both.
DB Cooper – “The bullet that entered Kennedy’s back penetrated to only a finger’s length deep. It did not exit, therefore it did not go on to strike Governor Connally, therefore the magic bullet theory is a myth.”
2 bullets hit Kennedy : The first bullet (through the head) hit the windshield strut and split in two; it was found on the floor of the limo.
The second round (through the back) exited in what the autopsy photos clearly show was a post-incident tracheotomy incision – it carried on to hit Connelly and was later found on the hospital gurney that carried Connelly. Even the shape of the scar on Connelly was immediately recognised by the Chief Medical Exsaminer of NYC (when Connelly granted him a brief examination some years later) as being totally consistent with this (the scar being an elongated lateral tear) as a bullet – having already hit something – then spins end over end, as opposed to being arrow-like. And they were able to 100% chemically match a fragment of the bullet that lodged in Connelly’s wrist with that found on the gurney.
The reason there were no bullets found in either victims was that they were copper jacketed military issue (they continue to penetrate rather than break up).
Everything DB Cooper said is accurate, with the possible exception of the specific names of the gunmen. kiwiboi doesn’t have a clue. His facts are inaccurate and his conclusions make no sense.
Only one bullet struck Kennedy in the back. The magic bullet theory (lone gunman theory) is that the same bullet that entered Kennedy’s back on a downward angle, somehow exited his throat at an upward angle and then hit Connally at a downward angle, an impossibility. And as DB Cooper said, the wound in Kennedy’s back was a finger’s length deep. It did not exit Kennedy’s neck, and that’s what the examining doctors found.
There were more bullet fragments in Connally’s body than material missing from the pristine bullet, so it was impossible for that bullet to cause his wounds. (Incidentally, that bullet was not found on the gurney that carried Connally, and the bullet that was found in the hospital was not the same type of bullet that was later in evidence.)
Add to that the fact that the physical evidence and testimony of the doctors who examined Kennedy’s body showed that Kennedy had 2 front entry wounds, which could not possibly have come from someone firing from the book depository building BEHIND Kennedy. Also, 80% of the witnesses present said they heard shots fired from the grassy knoll area, in front of Kennedy.
apparent lack of an exit wound, which was cleared up later in the official report after new and more complete information became available (the exit had been hidden by a tracheotomy incision). This report does note that the doctor (Commander Humes) at the time said that he was unable to locate an “outlet” for the wound in Kennedy’s shoulder (not his back).
The weight of bullet CE399 was reported in the Warren Commission Report as 158.6 grains. It was found that the weight of a single, unfired bullet ranged from 159.8 to 161.5 grains with an average weight of 160.844 grains.[14]The lead fragments retrieved from Connally’s wounds in the wrist (there were no fragments in the chest[15]) weighed about 2 grains.
so no, the bullet fragments were within tolerances for that bullet.
also try watch the discovery channel show on this were they recreated, almost exactly the “magic” shot.
Discovery Channel’s reenactment of bullet CE399′s path
A Discovery Channel special “Unsolved History: JFK — Beyond the Magic Bullet”, attempted to replicate, as well as possible, the conditions of that day. The participants set up blocks of ballistics gel with a substance similar to human bone inside. These studies showed that largely undeformed bullets were possible to produce, if they were slowed by a passage though a tissue-like substance before striking bone. Next, two mannequin figures made of ballistic anatomical substances (animal skin, gelatin, and interior bone-like cast) were set up in the exact relative position of JFK and Connally. A marksman, from a distance equal to that of the sixth floor of the Book Depository building, fired the same rifle model found in the Book Depository, using a round from the same batch of “Western Case Cartridge Company” 6.5×52 mm ammunition purchased with the surplus Carcano weapon in early 1963. The path of their single bullet (followed by high speed photography) duplicated, almost exactly, the wounds suffered by the victims that day, the only difference being that the bullet did not quite have enough energy to penetrate the “thigh” substance in front of the Connally figure, because it struck an extra bone in the “rib” model (i.e., it fractured 2 ribs in the model vs. one rib in Connally). It was also slightly more deformed than CE 399, possibly for the same reason. However, this bullet came close enough to duplicating all wounds in both men with a single shot, with a bullet having little deformation. Thus the theory was proven to be much more plausible than previously thought.[26]
What about T. Casey Brennan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Casey_Brennan
It was George Bush in the study with the candlestick. Game over.
Adam: Works for me!
I’ve never quite understood we its so improbable that Oswald killed Kennedy. :/
James E. Files was the shooter on grassy knoll. You can watch his videotaped confession on youtube or on http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com or read it in the book “Files on JFK” from Wim Dankbaar.
Oswald could not have fired so many shots with that rifle, that is proven, and the parafin test showed that he had not fired any rifle, that is proven, too. He was part of the abort-team and was set-up as a patsy. That is a logical coonclusion.
George H. W. Bush, former CIA-chief and president, had busily recruiting a “group 40″ before those days in 1963, which was a CIA-group of assassins, who were heavily involved in the Bay of Pigs thing and many other assassination plots mainly South America from the early sixties on, and many of them were sent independently to Dealey Plaza as hit-teams to kill president Kennedy.
Anybody who believes that a lone gunmen can hit a president from that distance 4 times (which is also proved), one time from the front through the windshield into the throat, one time from the back into the back right to the spine, one time into the upper head left from the back and one time into the upper left head fromthe front which caused the brain material spray to the rear of the car and the police-motorbike-men, and then hit senator Connolly several times (which is all proved) and the grass at the side and Mr. Taegue at the triple underpass (which is proved) and all this from the Texas schoolbook depository with an old low velocity rifle, is an idiot.
So if I understand it correctly: Oswald shoots in a record time with a Manlicher Carcano (or with a Mauser, or maybe with curtain rods ???), gently leaves 3 empty shells in a nice little row on the window (while taking them always with him on shooting ranges where he is supposed to have been seen), than hides his gun (why does he hide the gun, but leaves 3 empty shells clearly visible ?), than walks or runs down the stairs, makes quickly some publicity for Coke, waits until a police man and his boss are rushing upstairs, then calmly leaves the building, starts making some unnecessary complicated movements by bus, goes at home, to grab a revolver that he forgot to put in the parcel with curtain rods ???
Has anyone seen Richard Linklater’s Slacker? There’s an awesome scene in a bookstore where this guy talks about JFK books. Conspiracy-a-go-go is one of them. It’s hilarious. I love that movie.
what about william grier the man who was driving the car kennedy was in. The zapruder film confirms this theory. The only clear footage of him looking back, slowing down and bam!!! a gun shot.
Who killed Kennedy is irrelevent! The why is the only big question. Why would somebody go to all the trouble to kill a sitting president? How did they know the car route which was changed at the last minute to go by Dealy Plaza? Something big was going to happen and somebody or some group of people wanted to stop Kennedy from doing something. Possible answers:
1. Kennedy was going to close down the Federal Reserve Bank. As this bank is not owned by the US government and the money loaned to the government by this bank is repaid with interest, Kennedy was going to start to print a government owned currency through the US Treasury.
2. Kennedy was going public regarding all the info the government has/had on UFO’s. The government had made 3 aggreements with aliens starting in the 30′s and had many secret/black departments within the intelligent communitee of the armed forces. They killed him to stop the release.
3. Kennedy was going to close down the CIA and have the armed forces take over. The CIA killed him to stop that.
4. The mafia killed him in retaliation because Kennedy’s father refussed to carry out their demands after the mob used it’s influence to help get Kennedy elected.
5. members of black opps departments killed Kennedy because he left the cuban exiled people to their fate after the bay of Pigs fell apart.
6. Kennedy was going to stop the Vietnam war and bring the troops home. The military was against that so they took him out because Johnson…his vice president had agreed to continue the war if he was president.
In my oppinion…all the above had a hand in the killing. The Cia had the ability to get the road route changed. Johnson and those working in this plot had the ability to keep Kennedy on schedule to be at Dealy Plaza at the right time. The military had the troops ready to put down any public outcry. The Federal Reserve Bank financed the whole operation and the mob supplied the shooters and got their revenge.The cubans were probably the shooters. This makes sense when you look at it from the “big picture”. Everybody got what they wanted and the black opp alien people probably brought everything together. Good God…is this country in trouble!
good job jfrater, you stumbled onto an american mine field be mentioning the kennedy assasination lol. great list though, what about the assasination of martin luther king jr.?? you should make a list for that aswell
Texas oilmen. Who has been in power from then to now? They will kill 3000 US citizens, or tens of thousands of Iraqis. So why would one president be a big deal to them or there bankers?
i believe it was israeli agents behind the JFK shooting
Anyone who thinks every shot was fired by Lee Harvey is uneducated on the issue. All of the evidence points against a magic bullet theory. Everyone should listen to the audio taken from one of the motorcycle cops, it sounds like five or six shots right after each other. For the people who look at the Zapruder, Nix, and Muchmore films and try to make conclusions on what happend that day, don’t bother. All 3 of the films have been doctored, edited, and changed by some government official.
Back in 1960′s no one could have guessed the computer technology that would be available to everyone in the new millenium. It is obvious when slowing down and looking at the films frame by frame that they are fake and many frames have been removed to give a desired effect. For one thing JFK’s limo came to an almost complete stop if not stopped right before the head shot. The gov. knew that they couldn’t have the driver slowing down and waiting for the fatal shot.
It was an entertaining list with many obviously made up and fake theories. The two that I noticed were number 10 and number 7. I feel they gave the most real information, but definently didn’t cover all the players. The first being the involvement of Frank Sturgis. Frank Sturgis was involved in the plan to kill Kennedy. Along with LBJ, CIA Operative Cord Meyer, and E. Howard Hunt. Lyndon B Johnson was a power hungary man who was not Kennedy’s friend. In fact at that time many people in the government didn’t like Kennedy and his ideals. Johnson wanted to be president of the United States and knew this was probably his only chance. Cord Meyer didn’t like Kennedy because of his threats to remove the CIA and Kennedy was also putting it to Cord’s wife.
That brings us to probably the most important man E. Howard Hunt. Not because he was one of the men that killed JFK, but he was the one who felt remorse and talked about it the last few years of his life. He blew the whistle on many people involved including himself. Some of the recordings are available on the internet and you should check them out. The recording were made and given to Hunt’s son right before his death. Don’t expect to hear anything about this amazing news story in the mainstream media. The mainstream media is the main and only reason someone might think Lee Harvey acted soley. Any show you see on the History channel or anything like that is bias and wrong. For the first time ever we have a chance to educate ourselves on the internet. I wouldn’t watch CNN for news ever. E. Howard Hunt told of the involvement of LBJ, Meyer, and Sturgis.
Sorry my last message got posted before I could finish my thought.
That brings us to one of the most important discoveries in the JFK case. In the early 70′s pictured resurfaced of 3 men that had been pictured that day after the assassination. These men have been labeled “The Tramps” by the media. There is three or four pictures of these men. It is strongly believed that two of these three men are Hunt and Sturgis. The only problem is the government has gone out of there way to make is known that Hunt was definently not in Dallas that day. When Hunt got news of the pictures he was sent to steal them, which played a part in the Watergate scandal. There was much more to the Watergate scandal and E Howard Hunt was a major player and went to jail for Watergate.
Brings us back to the list E Howard Hunt is taped saying in the last couple years of his life that a Frenchman was the man who shot Kennedy from the grazzy nole. This Frenchman is Jean Rene Soutre who is number 7 on this list. Soutre shot and killed JFK while the government just covered it up. Like number 10 in the list says. All corners were covered espicailly the main stream media. It is very disturbing how every time someone with the name Bush or Nixon (to name a few) have there power threatened someone dies or gets shot. JFK, Bobby Kennedy, George Wallace, Reagan, JFK Junior. No wonder Obama is surrounded by bulletproof glass when he give a speech.
Actually, you should count how many dead bodies are related to Bubba and Mrs Clinton
RE: Autopsy photos
I do not think the photos of the back of the intact are fake. In the book “The Day Kennedy was Shot”, what happened after the autopsy was finished is described. The funeral director provided material and “hair” to cover the wound, so Jackie could view his body.
I believe the “autopsy” photos were taken after the reconstruction work was done. It would explain how two-dimensional the area looks, and the incorrect hair length.
That being said, I still believe the Warren Commission was full of *****!
Front of neck entrance wound + back of head missing = shooter in FRONT.
ReaderRabbit, I respect your opinion of the photos, but I disagree.
A nurse who helped to prepare Kennedy’s body, to be put in the casket that would take him out of Parkland hospital said (Paraphrasing) “There wasnt any hair or scalp, etc. to cover the hole with. The hole was too big for a medical patch to fit over it”. A medical patch is a bandage that is used to cover large wounds with, but even the medical patch could not cover the giant exit wound in the back of Kennedy’s head. There wasnt any bones, scalp, hair, etc to cover the hole with. It was blown away, back and to the left, all over the trunk of Kennedy’s limo, onto the street and onto a Dallas Policeman riding on a motorcycle to the left rear of Kennedy’s limo. In fact, the police officer, was hit by Kennedy’s brain matter with such force that he, for a moment, thought that HE was hit. Any blood splatter expert will tell you that this clearly traces the origin of the shot to the right front of the limo, which is what the “back and to the left” motion in which Kennedy fell after the fatal shot also indicates. Besides,the autopsy came first….the funeral director’s treatment of kennedy wasnt until much later…the funeral director’s applications cannot have hidden the wound, because the photo was taken before the funeral director prepared the body…… the photo of kennedy’s “perfect head” was taken BEFORE the funeral director’s cleaning up of the wounds. He also described the hole, which is why he filled it with wax, there was a hole in the back of kennedy’s head when he arrived from the autopsy, where the photos were taken.
The mortician DID indeed fill the hole with wax, but that was to keep the hole as un-obvious as possible when one viewed Kennedy in the casket. The wax could in no way truly conceal the hole when one looked at it from the back…Jackie already saw the humongous hole in her husband’s head…..that is the reason why she climbed onto the trunk of the limo after the shot…she saw a hole in her husband’s head, and she saw a piece of his head fly onto the trunk of the limo.
To further illustrate this point, a Doctor described seeing Jackie kennedy in the hallway. Jackie walked up to him, opened his hand, and placed something in it. When he opened his hand to see what it was, it was part of her husband’s head. If any reconstruction was done to kennedy’s head, besides a little wax, in my view it wasnt limited to just photos…….the large exit wound seen in Dallas, was somehow MUCH larger by the time Kennedy got to Bethesda naval hospital, than it was in Dallas. It appears as if a “pre-autopsy” autopsy was done on Kennedy, in order to confuse everyone concerning the true origin of the shots. (They succeeded)
This might explain why FBI agents had described “surgery to the head area” of kennedy, when no such thing was done by the autopsy staff.
If this “pre-autopsy” autopsy did occur, in my view it was with the blessing of Bobby Kennedy, JFK’s brother. There were National Security contingency plans in effect on November 22nd 1963, to conceal any possible assassination of American officials, by Fidel Castro. These plans were related to a planned coup of Cuba that the Kennedy’s were working on, scheduled for December 1st, 1963.
Bobby himself orchestrated much of the coup plan, as well as the contingency plans. In essence, the contingency plans meant that if an American official was killed, and it was suspected that Castro could have been involved and retaliated for the Kennedy’s own assassination attempts, then the true nature of the wounds would have to be concealed. At the time of the autopsy, the government didnt yet know that Castro wasnt responsible for the assassination (in fact they probably thought that he WAS, which is why the conspirators framed Oswald, as a nutty communist, when in fact he wasnt a communist and wrote of how he hated and mistrusted communism), so they went into “national security” mode, using the contingency plans.
Every Doctor who saw Kennedy, including those at the autopsy, almost to a person, all say that the depiction of the back of Kennedy’s head in a famous autopsy photo showing the head intact, say that the photo was “not a true depiction” of what they saw.
There was a hole there, and shredded scalp and sharp bones surrounding it, but nothing where the photo shows a clean, neat head.
Not even the best reconstruction expert could have hidden that wound, in a natural way. Thus, they hid the wound in an unnatural way-photo manipulation.
Some people will say “Come on, photo manipulation? Arent we getting a bit too carried away?”.
In fact, no, we arent. We have to remember that this was the same era when the CIA was trying to kill Castro with exploding seashells, poison pens, umbrella weapons, and trying to make his facial hair fall out.
Ask yourself this question: Why was the body of kennedy stolen from a civilian hospital, and taken to a military hospital?
Because in a civilian hospital, the government cant control what happens. But in a military hospital, the government is in charge….and they can manipulate things in order to make the public think what they want the public to think.
That is why Bobby Kennedy himself was partly responsible for ordering the body of Kennedy to be stolen from Parkland hospital and taken to a military hospital. He certainly didnt conspire to kill JFK, but he did have contingency plans that had to be put into effect, in order to keep the planned coup of Cuba for the following week, to remain a secret from the Soviets, Cuban government and the world, except for the dozen of men who knew about it, because they were participants in it.
As for the “Discovery Channel”, evidence is only as good as the person manipulating it.
It is in the eye of the beholder. That’s why OJ Simpson got away with murder, when his blood and the victims blood were at both OJ’s rockingham residence and at the crime scene.
But with the manipulation of OJ’s lawyers, the jurors wrongly let OJ Simpson go, a free man.
Like Kevin Costner’s character said in “JFK” (To paraphrase): “They say that theoretical physics can prove that Oswald killed Kennedy….of course it can…theoretical physics can prove that an Elephant can hang off of a cliff with his tall tied to a daisy, but use your common sense”, and see what a bunch of BS the lone nut case truly is.
In my view, anyways.
Correction: I meant to say that “theoretical physics can prove that an Elephant can hang off of a cliff with his tail tied to a daisy”
The throat wound, the Doctor who cut the incision for the tracheotomy said that the wound in Kennedy’s throat was an entrance wound, in fact the only two Doctors who saw the wound before the incision, said it was an entrance wound, roughly the size of a pencil tip. Exit wounds arent pencil tip sized
The bullet that entered Kennedy’s back (the word of the witness) only penetrated to a finger length’s depth. There is no way that you can be hit six inches down the back with a bullet going downwards, and then have the bullet go out of the throat. The Dr. felt the bullet in kennedy’s back.It stayed in his back. It didnt go any further.
That is why the WC’s Gerald Ford lied to the American public by, (ready for this?) – moving the location of the wound up closer to the shoulder, so that “it made more sense”.
The wound was in Kennedy’s back, as evidenced by the hole in the back region of kennedy’s jacket, which by the way was not bunched at the time
Besides, Oswald was in the 2nd floor lunchroom, so he didnt fire the bullet into kennedy’s back.
Oops, in the above post, I explained it wrong: the Doctor felt the trajectory of the wound, and felt where it stopped, he didnt feel the bullet itself.
The point is that the bullet didnt exit in the front region of kennedy’s body and was not a bullet that hit Connally.
If you dont have a magic bullet, you also dont have a lone gunman.
oswald was innocent.
DB I agree with what you are saying all the way. What do you think about DB Cooper. I grew up in Port Angeles Washington and one of my good friends grew up in Sequim which is 15 miles away from Port Angles on the Olympic Peninsula. He claims and strongly stands by the fact that one of him high school teachers was DB Cooper. He says the teacher would always get this peculiar smerk on his face when DB was mentioned in class. He says the teacher would also like to chat about DB and claimed he was still alive. When directly asked by my friend he just danced around the question, but never directly said he was or wasn’t DB. My friend is very honest and reliable, but I just don’t know. Well it is an interesting story anyway.
I heard Carlos the Jackal was involved
I thought this case is already resolved.. It was Edward Blake who murdered JFK. He is also known as the Comedian.. so, stop arguing who actually did it coz that person is already dead. He was also killed by an assassin appointed by Adrian Veidt a.k.a. Ozymandias
I always wonder, with all the theories that abound, why no one has ever mentioned Mrs. Kennedy. She was sitting in the car next to him and not one shot even came close to her. It seems like she remarried awfully quickly after his death, too. Just a thought.
My theory is that Jacqueline Kennedy wanted revenge on JFK for all the pain he caused her by cheating many different times with many different women. Mrs. Kennedy had connections with LBJ who hated Kennedy. I think Jacqueline promised Johnson the presidency if he got rid of John. Johnson was seen to have connections with Bobby Baker, which had connections with the Russian Mafia and CIA assassins. I believe the Mafia had two hit men on the knoll and a assassin in The TBD and they found the first man they saw who was Lee Harvey Oswald an employee there, and they framed him. You can believe it or not but that sounds like the catch
42. koty – Jacqueline Kennedy wanted revenge on JFK for all the pain he caused her by cheating many different times with many different women. Mrs. Kennedy had connections with LBJ who hated Kennedy. I think Jacqueline promised Johnson the presidency if he got rid of John.
There’s the problem – too much soap opera. LBJ was vice president so he was already second in line to the presidency. If he were not, there is no way Jackie O could promise him anything, especially a seat that high up.
And it could be possible she was upset, but would she really want to be sitting NEXT to JFK when it occurred? Have you seen the video footage? It’s grainy and kind of small but even so, it’s still pretty gruesome.
It’s a cute story you got, though.
Who is Edward Blake? Why even mention this name with no explanation? Just to further muddy the water?
For god’ sake, if this is a legitimate, give us some references.
doc Rorschach ( a character from the Watchmen) was just making a joke about the Comedian (also from the Watchmen) killing Kennedy (I believe stated in the Watchmen) and then Being killed by Ozymandias (Watchmen) in case you haven’t figured it out Watchmen is a graphic novel written in the 80′s and turned into a decent movie last year.
Just a thought… please bare with me. Imagen if you will the a time when your country is falling appart, main manufacuring is on its knee’s and your position in the world is faultering. A PLAN IS NEED, As history has shown ‘WWII’ catapulted the american economy into a superpower, however there is little support within the nation to envoke a war, what do you DO? Has history has shown an act so shocking the nation is blinded, allowing you to lead the nation in what ever direction you desire…..mmmmm. I think there are factors that can be derived to form an equation which is very current.
- (P)earl (H)arbour = mass support for USA to join WWII
- Formation (I)srael = War Palestine, egypt.
(Supported by USA)
- The Moon Landings = lol
- JFK = support for Vietnam, CUBA
new and addition support for CIA
and atleast 50 other black ops
against foreign goverments.
add these together ….
- ((PH)+ I + fMl + JfK) = 9/11 :- ‘WAR’ Afganistan, Iraq
Patriot act
Orson Wells was ahead of his time 25 years.
I too have always wondered why everyone immediately always glossed over the possibility that Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy had something to do not only with the president’s assassination but the hit on Mary Pinchot Meyer as well.
It has always seemed to me she got a free pass, and I didn’t start wondering seriously about this until her daughter Caroline sealed her mother’s letters. There’s not nearly enough sunshine and fresh air on the Kennedy family, and way too many shadows. All this talk about not wanting to hurt or embarrass the living? We ALL were traumatized by that event, and have carried it for going on half a century now! The family owes us the truth. Instead they close ranks and use their power to hide. They’d rather keep us guessing, and be honest. Then they expect to retain our respect? No wonder so many people are turning away from the Democrats.
Although she too had affairs, JFK’s seemed to be serial, and he apparently shoved them in her face rather than being discreet, as someone of her background would have been raised to expect. She was not an unpowerful woman. She had access to many circles involved in less than savory activities. People talk, people overhear, and people form their own conclusions.
And although people speak of the JFK administration as “Camelot,” as though the only knights were around Jack and Bobby’s oval table, my recollection of that era is that there were a lot of men who seethed at the idea that the president of the US would be such a philanderer. I can easily imagine some Texas boys deciding to in their minds “help the little lady,” justifying their own reasons (power, money, oil, war). That’s just a suggestion. I obviously, like the rest of us, have no idea what actually happened. But I’ve always thought that the reason the US dragged itself through the trauma swamp of Watergate was that we wanted to believe there was SOME sort of accountability and sunshine that could be brought to bear on our leaders. If Nixon had handled that differently, if he’d had any clue about human character other than his own, he could have led us into a new era of responsibility and openness (which I think is what he wanted, though he lacked the character to do so). Rather than into the hell of the ’80s and onward–the era of supreme self indulgence.
I don’t see koty suggesting any particular method or plot. When you have as much power as Jackie Kennedy, a leveraging word in the right place can roll boulders downhill. In that case it would be poetic (Aeschylean/Euripidean) if the assassins decided to put her that close to the actual hit. The whole point of power is to remain isolated and insulated from the messes on the ground.
I still think she had something to do with the killing of her and Jack’s Georgetown neighbor, the *****/danger addict druggie painter, Mrs. Meyer, some 11 months after JFK’s assassination. What a humiliation, to have your husband going down the alley to get pootie from one of your friends on the block!
Alas, I doubt we’ll ever know. These dysfunctional families demanded to be our First Family, demanded we be their enablers. I think a new era is emerging, and I only hope the Constitution survives it.
http://www.kevinrkosar.com/Nobile-Rosenbaum-Mary-Meyer-07-09-1974.pdf
All you conspiracy theorists out there, how far away was Oswald when the first shot was fired?
Jobrag
Google ‘Jackie Killed JFK’ Surprise! It makes a ton of sense. There was a puff of smoke over her and JFKs head seen in the Zapruder film. That would indicate a weapon in the car and right between the couple.A derringer was pulled and put to the left side of his head near the left ear, and the trajectory of the tissue emmissions is also clear on that same film. Jackie hesitated, so the guy stationed at the grassy knoll shot within seconds after she did to make sure the job was done. JFK had two almost simultaneous head wounds coming frontally. There was no mess on the back of the limo. Jackie’s facial and body movements prior to the head shot are strange, as if she is hiding her hands and looking to Connally for a signal; and stranger yet as she pushes JFK off her and scrambles to the back of the limo, ditching the derringer behind the back seat…she was the only one given red roses that day, whereas previously she had gotten yellows. Everyone else got yellows that day. Maybe the gun was delivered to her in the roses. It had to be a single shot derringer cannon delivering a big wound. Lots of people wanted him dead and it wouldn’t be the first time a woman killed her cheating, cavalier spouse. She did not attend his 1962 birthday bash because Marilyn Monroe was there. JFK had been in cahoots with Monroe since the 50s. Jackie was a humiliated and wronged woman who had just spent three months on Onassis’ yacht prior to the assassination. I doubt they were just holding hands. This conspiracy was huge and covered up in a most insidious fashion. Just go through the links about this; there’s one that has enhanced the film footage and she looks very, very suspicious indeed. If it’s true, she deserves an academy award for her acting. Or maybe she really felt bad and was threatened into complicity ot else. The best way to ensure a kill is a very close range shot, you all know that!
Also, her choice of bright pink clothing is odd. She was always very demure and never wore shockingly bright clothes. It has been proven that bright pink is the only color that can be see clearly from a distance. This means that if she didn’t have the balls to pull the trigger on the derringer,the hit man on the knoll could clearly see her. That could go both ways; it could mean he would not make a mistake and hit her due to the high visibility of her clothing, or, that he could hit her easily if she failed to pull the trigger. This would eliminate her as a possible whistleblower. But she had the balls. So much for the little whispery girl voice. Still waters run deep.
Hello,americans.The death of Kennedy,will remain a mystery if you,the citizens of great America will not figure out the real enemies of freedom.Those against the greatest document on earth(the america constitution).Those who plotted his assassination,plotted the assassination of Lincoln and many other great American presidents.A SECRET SOCIETY did it!A ‘holy’office did it.America,you need the mercy of God to get to know this.Seek His wisdom.Did Kennedy send an ambassador to Vatican during his reign?What caution did he gave Americans about Pope in his speech’I BELIEVE IN AMERICA IN WHICH THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE IS ABSOLUTE.’Please,to those who send their comments,I beg of you one favour:READ ALL KENNEDY’S SPEECHES.Beware of the great battle that Kennedy waged against the principalities of darkness.He gave his life that America and the whole earth be free;liberty be given a moment to thrive in the streets of Alabama;that freedom may reign in the alleys of New York and in the lanes of Washington.Those who assassinated him have now chocked FREEDOM and strained LIBERTY.MAY GOD RESCUE THE AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THE CITIZENS OF THE WORLD.
The second shooter was…David Ferrie. He was dressed as a mechanic and fired 3 shots. Oswald shot did not quite make it. If you use google and some degree of *****ytical thinking you realize this was a mafia hit.
Doesn’t matter who the killers were – assassins are a dime a dozen… the real point is who was responsible for arranging it..
And that was LBJ, J Edgar Hoover, The then Governor of Texas and his goons.
LBJ hated JFK.. he was jealous of him for taking the presidency which he thought he deserved, not some kid. J Edgar Hoover has been confirmed to be homo*****ual.. something that the Kennedy brothers had been using as blackmail – they had pictures of him in a compromising position – Hoover had info on Kennedy and Kennedy had these pictures of Hoover.. so it was a stalemate. The Governor of Texas and the Republicans wanted JFK outta the way for many reasons.. but most importantly because of Vietnam and the whole ‘domino theory’ of communism which JFK was against – there are released documents showing that JFK was going to withdraw our men from Vietnam after his re-election.. but not until after – because he knew the choice would have lots of political ramifications. So LBJ and gang had to get rid of him before he won a second term.. which was bound to happen. Everyone had a motive – LBJ to be president, Hoover to deal with JFK and a looming blackmail threat and the GOP for ideology reasons and Vietnam.
There’s very little of this that is up for debate anymore.. it’s all case closed – the mistress of LBJ has been on talk shows telling the tale – she spoke of the party the day before it all occurred… she said LBJ told her JFK wouldn’t be a problem any more.. not after tomorrow.
It really angers me when I look back at it all.. and the motives are so clear.. the reasons are obvious – most of the evidence like LBJ’s mistress.. not questionable material – clear as day.. the bastards took him out.
And funny how it all backfired for the GOP really… the assassination only caused LBJ to have a blank check in congress.. lots of legislation sailed right through congress after that – it helped out LBJ.. until he realized that Vietnam was a mess he never should have got in.. I know he must have looked back and thought ‘that damn Kennedy kid was right’..
Those are the true murderers.. not some idiots that fired the shots.. -
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George DeMohrenschildt was CIA and spoke fluent Russian, & was also a close friend of Lee Harvey Oswald (since Oswald had a Russian wife). DeMohren was also in the Oil business. Hmmm Oil & CIA makes him just like Daddy Bush.
In 1968, the House Investigation into the Assassination of JFK requested Geo DeMohrenschildt to come testify. That very day, Geo DeMohr was found dead, shot to death. Suicide? Murder? In his wallet was business card of Poppy Bush.