I am sure by now that the majority of people here know that I am a great fan of cooking and particularly love modern cuisine (often called molecular gastronomy because of the scientific nature of it). I have been wanting to do a list like this for some time and finally got around to it! This list comprises the 10 most common (but unusual) techniques used in haute cuisine at the moment. While they are not all new ideas, they are all unique in the way that they are now being put to use. These methods are becoming so popular that many amateur cooks are incorporating them into their home cooking. All I ask is that you read this list with an open mind – many of the things here may seen awful – but I assure you, once you taste this type of cooking, you are a convert.
Imagine a bowl of steaming prawn noodles – made almost entirely with prawns and including no flour (the prime ingredient in noodles). This is the type of food you can produce using Transglutaminase (“meat glue”). Transglutaminase breaks down the cells of meat and basically turns it to a mush that can be piped or shaped. It is used in commercial food for binding meats together (as in hot dogs and sausages) but it really comes to life in the hands of modern chefs. Pictured above is a plate of shrimp noodles by Wylie Dufresne, chef of New York’s avant-garde restaurant wd~50.
This is an incredibly exciting product being used in cooking. Methyl cellulose is a compound that turns to a firm gel when it is heated. For this reason, many bakeries mix it into their pie fillings to ensure that they don’t spill out of their pastry shells when cooking. But, the molecular gastronomers have found a more exciting use for it in their restaurants: hot ice cream! This is done by mixing a standard ice cream base with methyl cellulose (1.5% of the total recipe) and submerging a scoop filled with the liquid into a pot of hot water. The hot water causes the ice cream to go hard. This is served immediately and as the ice cream cools down, it melts! Pictured above is hot cauliflower ice cream [image source].
Some restaurants are now experimenting with food via the other senses that we normally don’t relate to cuisine – such as darkness and audio. For example, when eating in a pitch black environment, diners are said to have a much greater appreciation of individual flavors in food as they are not distracted by the in-built perceptions of food that come from appearance. Other restaurants use sound to enhance flavor – at the Fat Duck there is a course called “Sound of the Sea” in which you listen to the sounds of the sea through an iPod while eating powdered baby eels, oysters, pickled onion juice foam, and more. It is an extraordinary experience. Scientists have shown that when a person eats a carrot with the crunch amplified via a microphone and headphones, the consumer believes it to be much fresher and cleaner tasting than a carrot without the audio equipment. Pictured above is the iPod in a shell that each diner receives at the Fat Duck to accompany the delicious “Sound of the Sea” course which can be seen here complete with powders and foam.
Powders are a new addition to modern menus – they are flavors that are dried to a dust and then sprinkled or served alongside food as a garnish (you can see two types of powder in the first image of this list). In some restaurants they are served as an entire course on their own. The main method for preparing powders is to mix a liquid of some type with maltodextrin. This is then processed in a food processor until you get a powder of the consistency you prefer. An incredibly tasty powder is made from rendered bacon fat and maltodextrin – it melts in your mouth while filling it with an intense bacon flavor. What more could anyone want to eat?! In the clip above we see a chef at Alinea, one of the great American molecular gastronomy restaurants making a caramel powder. Here is the full youtube clip on Alinea which demonstrates many of the ideas in this list.
No doubt we are all familiar with the good old slow cooked stews that our parents made. But modern cuisine has to take things further. First, a little science: when cooking meat at a high temperature, the flesh contracts and pushes the liquid out – the end result being a dry lump of hard meat. The solution to this is to cook the meat at the perfect temperature for eating – low enough not to cause constriction of the flesh. Master chef Heston Blumenthal (pictured above) has a recipe which calls for beef to be cooked at 50 degrees for 24 hours. When it is done, you sear it with a blow torch to brown it and flavor it. The resulting flesh is so soft it can be cut with a spoon. In his restaurant (the Fat Duck), he roasts a chicken at high temperatures for the juices (and does not serve the meat), and then cooks one at low temperatures for the soft meat – this is served with the juices from the first bird. Expensive, but worth it.
In a way this is a rather ancient method of cooking – eggs could be said to be cooked sous vide when boiled. Sous vide (meaning “under vacuum”) is when food is vacuum packed and cooked in a pot of boiling water until it is done. The benefit of this type of cooking is that meat can be cooked for hours without over-cooking. For example, beef can be cooked to medium rare by boiling it in a vacuum sealed bag for one and a half hours at 160 degrees. Oxtail will cook perfectly in eight hours at 165 degrees. Because the water can be kept at a constant temperature (with the use of a thermometer), you can not overcook the meat. When the meat is done, you can brown it with a blow torch or in a frying pan – guaranteed perfect results every time – and the most tender meat you could imagine. Pictured above is beef cooked sous vide.
In the finest of modern restaurants, gravy and sauce are becoming a thing of the past – being replaced with airs and foams. Airs are produced by using a submersion blender with cooking juices or fruit juices combined with a stabilizer – usually lecithin. The blender causes the liquid to froth up and the froth is then used on the plated meal. Foams are slightly more dense than airs and they are generally made with a similar liquid, but foamed up in a cream whipping device charged with nitrous oxide. Airs and foams are both used in the same way but for different effects. In the clip above you can see a chef making a parmesan cheese flavored air. It should also be noted that in some restaurants, you can be served a course which is made of nothing but air.
If you thought airs were unusual – you ain’t seen nothin’ yet! In many haute cuisine restaurants, all of the senses comes into play – and smell (perhaps the most important sense next to taste) can play a significant role. The idea is to bathe the diners in scents that cause a deepening of the flavors of the food. This is achieved in a variety of ways. At the Fat Duck (rated best restaurant in the world in 2007), waiters spray lime scent when serving lime and green tea mousse. At El Bulli diners are given fresh stems of rosemary to smell while they eat, and in some restaurants, bags filled with food scents are stuck with holes and weighted so there is a constant release of odor during the meal. Next time you eat a piece of lamb, try sniffing a stem of rosemary instead of adding it while cooking – you get the flavor of rosemary without overpowering the delicate lamb flavor. In the video above you see a box of oak moss and liquids to which liquid nitrogen is added – the resulting “smoke” has a faint odor of moss. This clip is from the Fat Duck.
Alginates are a type of gum that cause calcium based liquids to gel. They are used to create “caviar” – fruit juices in the form of caviar, ravioli without pasta, and much more. The uses are virtually unlimited. In the video clip above, we see Ferran Adria, the owner of El Bulli (ranked the best restaurant in the world in 2008), making an “artificial” olive by using olive juice and alginate. As you can see the technique is not a particularly complex one, but the results are stunning.
Freezing has long been a staple in kitchens and cooking, but it is only recently that it is really coming to the fore – particularly extreme temperature and fast freezing. Liquid Nitrogen is especially useful in making ice cream as the rapid freezing prevents ice crystals from forming – and it is the ice crystals in ice cream that makes for an inferior product. Liquid Nitrogen frozen ice cream is the smoothest silkiest ice cream you will ever eat and it takes only a few minutes to freeze. You can also use this technique to freeze pure fruit juices into sorbets. In the video clip above, one of the waiters from the Fat Duck prepares bacon and egg ice cream – I know it sounds weird, but I can assure you, it is the nicest ice cream you could ever eat!
Contributor: JFrater


















December 16th, 2008 at 2:59 am
that liquid nitrogen one was radical
December 16th, 2008 at 3:01 am
wow. i didn’t realize that cooking could be so incredibly scientific and chemical.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:03 am
thanks for this very interesting list. i would so love to try a liquid nitrogen frozen ice cream.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:03 am
This list has completly gone over my head. I cant even begin to memorize all of these weird names let alone try them out. I think thats what restaurants are for but its nice to know more about whats going into your meal. Im going to try some hot ice cream. Thanx
December 16th, 2008 at 3:05 am
well not endowed in this dept.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:11 am
Great list and great videos too, thank you! Like you I’m a total foodie and if you like the concepts described here, try reading Heston Blumenthal’s “In Search of Perfection” books and Harold McGee “On Food and Cooking”. You won’t be disappointed!
December 16th, 2008 at 3:12 am
For 99% of human history people have eaten whatever they can get their hands on. Right now, about half the world’s population eats whatever they can get their hands on. This all seems very unnecessary and self-indulgent.
And there’s no number 8.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:15 am
Wow! I can’t believe that they use liquid nitrogen in such a casual manner. It is incredibly dangerous. I had a chemistry lecturer that had been doing lab work for years that almost lost a finger to frost bite when working with liquid nitrogen.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:16 am
Amazing! I have something new to look for when I make trips to New York and London.
Jfrater, have you tried all of them? Any recommendations for where to go in London?
December 16th, 2008 at 3:21 am
Telboy: I own Blumenthal’s perfection books and his “family food” which is also great
I will check out McGee – thanks
astraya: what is wrong with indulgence? And thanks for pointing out the missing item – I will fix that.
soakfu: Liquid Nitrogen is very safe if handled in the proper manner. For example, many people make the mistake of wearing gloves to handle it – opening themselves to the potential for frostbite! It is safer to have bare hands as the rapid evaporation in the case of a spill causes a protective layer between the liquid and the skin – in much the same way as our feet are protected when walking on hot coals.
downhighway61: I have tried all of the concepts here (I have eaten them – but not prepared them) – I can not recommend more the Fat Duck – it is in Bray (near Windsor) – an easy trip from London. You need to book three months in advance. When I went with 4 friends the total cost was 1,000 pounds (including wine) which is quite reasonable considering it is second best restaurant in the world this year (and was first best last year). You won’t regret it. Be sure to go for the tasting menu.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:31 am
Okay – I have added item 8 – apologies for not including it at first
December 16th, 2008 at 3:31 am
Awesome list! I’ve heard of all of these mostly because of a habit of leaving the food channel on while doing other things. Heston Blumenthal has a great show, can’t remember what its called at the time, but its definitely worth checking out!
December 16th, 2008 at 3:36 am
Penguinball: the show is probably “Perfection” – I agree that it is excellent – Heston is an inspiration! He is my number one favorite chef – though I am sure you can tell considering I have him dotted throughout this list
December 16th, 2008 at 3:38 am
Astraya: I was just thinking about your comment and I think it raises an interesting point: just because a large number of people are living hand to mouth doesn’t mean that we should all feel guilty for not doing so surely… I find your perspective difficult to fathom. Not everyone can afford a Bentley – so should no one drive one?
December 16th, 2008 at 3:42 am
Psht, 1000 GBP is nothing!
$1500 just grows on trees! Luckily all my friends and I live off of those notoriously huge military salaries.
Ha, just kidding, I would totally save up for a trip there. And we’re not huge into wine, so there goes some of that.
I’m off for some research!
December 16th, 2008 at 3:46 am
downhighway61: Here is the URL for the fat duck – there are some great reviews and photos that you can find on Google too.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:52 am
Nice list Jamie, the only issue here is that only a very few of these could be tried at home as they seem to require elaborate processes.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:03 am
knight_forked: amateur home cooks can easily replicate every item on this list. The only expense is buying the right materials (a stick blender for airs and a whipped cream canister for foams). You can buy all of the chemicals here online for home cooking and even liquid nitrogen is available for sale to the general public for a very low price per liter – and by low, I mean cents. They are not especially complicated – they just take more steps than most people are used to – for example the alginate olive – you need to press the olive through a sieve to get the juice – but then you just dunk it in the chemical solution et voila!
December 16th, 2008 at 4:11 am
jfrater: I think what Astraya is trying to say has to do with basic amenities, not luxury items. If everyone cannot eat, I don’t think we should be inventing more luxurious ways for us to eat. Instead, we should invent better ways for EVERYONE to eat.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:13 am
Sorry I forgot to say that I think the list is a good one and seems very innovative.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:14 am
Tricia: so until everyone in the world has basic amenities (according to our western standards), we should all avoid luxury in life? I don’t like that idea at all! Be warned any person who tries to take my foie gras away!!!
December 16th, 2008 at 4:27 am
Okay foie gras is not a basic amenity! That is extravigant, expensive and yes should be kept to a minimum when there are people who can’t get bread, let alone drop 1000 GBP on food!
I won’t take your foie gras away either. You’re entitled to it because you paid for it. But really, pureed liver? Ew.
Man I never thought the first time you replied to me would be when we disagree! I usually wholeheartedly agree with your arguements. Oh well I still love the site.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:32 am
extravagant*
December 16th, 2008 at 4:33 am
Bacon and egg ice cream…. try as I might to think of it being tasty, the thought of this scares me!
December 16th, 2008 at 4:33 am
Tricia, where do you draw the line though? TV is a luxury. Cars are a luxury. Organic milk is a luxury.
No one should tell anyone else what luxuries they should and shouldn’t have.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:38 am
hesten is a genious, it is a dream of mine to be able to travel the world to the fat duck, el bulli and the french laundry. I would have to say that foam and the air are not so much at the front of scientific cooking now as much as they were 3years ago and may cause a restaurant to appear pretencious, trying to keep up with the jones approach, instead of creating their own “foam” element.
And for the budding UK chefs http://www.creamsupplies.co.uk will supply all equipment.
I have heard of this new gastronomic invention around some areas of Scotland, called the battered mars bar, delicious and cheap
December 16th, 2008 at 4:39 am
Tricia is a commie! j/k
theoretically, everyone in the planet CAN eat well- it’s just that some 3rd world dictators prioritize spending food money for weapons and shameless extravagances.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:41 am
I said basic amenities. Food clothing and shelter. I live in a moderate house, I don’t wear name brand clothing (Gucci, Calvin Klein, etc), and I eat on a budget.
And also, I can’t stop and I’m not going to stop anyone from indulging in luxuries. I just gave my opinion that I agreed with Astraya. Can’t all that money and food wasted go to a hungry person? The post mentions an entire chicken that’s wasted just to get juice.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:43 am
LOL I am kind of a commie! Maybe a socialist.
I don’t really like that I live in such a capitalist society. That much competition breeds greed and outsourcing to make the cheapest product fetch the most money.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:44 am
I really want to try the 24 beef, but I don’t have a blow torch! jfrater do you think that you could sear the beef in a pan instead?
December 16th, 2008 at 4:46 am
Jordan, blow torches are cheap. So is the gas for them. I bought one from a home improvement store to use for creme brulee, and I love it.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:48 am
Tricia, maybe your broadband £10 a month or whatever would be better given to those who cannot eat or have clean water? Each to their own, and when you opinionise on how people “waste” their money, you should leave it to them how they spend it.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:49 am
Tricia, Gucci is designer, American Eagle is an example of a brand name. I don’t wear generally designer clothes either.
Communism makes a nice theory.
December 16th, 2008 at 4:54 am
OK fine I don’t wear designer clothing. My brands are Target and the Gap.
Peadaddy: I’ll keep those 10 pounds thanks , but the money I did give to charity will no doubt do that.
December 16th, 2008 at 5:17 am
Uh, I’m not quite getting the “eating air” thing. Is that filling? Might be the diet that finally works!
December 16th, 2008 at 5:22 am
Ah, nvm, not REALLY air. I’m stupid.
While I would never deign to tell you how you ought spend your money, even I have to say cooking a chicken just for juices for another chicken is over the top. What do they do with the first chicken after they’ve gotten the juices?
December 16th, 2008 at 5:33 am
When people make chicken stock they throw out the vegetables and the chicken that are used. It’s quite common.
I do agree that it would be nice if people were more understanding towards other people in need. I’m not heartless. I just don’t care if people want to spend $1500 on a meal, or $10,000 on an outfit. I do try to help people, donate food to soup kitchens and whatnot. But my husband works very hard/harder than most for our money and we will spend it however we want.
December 16th, 2008 at 5:47 am
its so unbeleiveable that how much modern ways of cooking are like entireley diffrent from what mom used to make oh and SEcond
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December 16th, 2008 at 5:49 am
was the “24 hour beef” cooked at 50 C (122F)? i don’t know how that could be food-safe in a restaurant. when i worked in restaurants any food that was being held hot had to be maintained at 200F (about 93 C) or above, or it was a health violation because of the potential for dangerous bacteria to multiply. too many violations and you get shut down. of course this was in the states, perhaps other places don’t regulate restaurant safety as stringently. i know we all probably do some things in our home kitchens that wouldn’t pass commercial health codes and rarely (if ever) get sick, but it’s different for businesses.
December 16th, 2008 at 6:06 am
lo, maybe it’s different because it’s in the process of being cooked and not being held hot after cooking. Any experts want to weigh in?
December 16th, 2008 at 6:07 am
I agree with Tricia.
You have to draw the line somewhere on how self-indulgent you should be with your money, and you don’t have to be a communist to realize how individualistic western society is. Money is a responsibility.
Bentleys are too much. A Ferrari is more practical.
Good list
December 16th, 2008 at 6:33 am
(Sorry in advance for my horrible spelling
These items although interesting just don’t seem very appetizing. But I guess I’m just a simple girl from the south that enjoys down home cooking.
December 16th, 2008 at 6:34 am
Complete overkill. I eat when I’m hungry, not to be part of the latest trends. I’ll settle for a cheeseburger cooked the old fashioned way anyday. I applaud your creativity and it’s an interesting list, but I agree with Tricia. Just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean it’s something you SHOULD do.
December 16th, 2008 at 6:53 am
MT and Ben: thanks for your comments. You both make very good points.
December 16th, 2008 at 6:55 am
Mmm… molecular gastronomy.
December 16th, 2008 at 6:58 am
Munro: If you want to see some more science in cooking, read through about the Maillard reactions. It’s an older site, but http://www.8legged.com/Kitchen/FSL04_JS.html has a very informative bit about it.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:08 am
Very cool list Jamie. The bacon/caramel powder sounds absolutely wonderful. I could have a baggie of bacon powder at work and snort a few lines in the bathroom – laugh all you want, but I would totally be addicted.
I suppose some of the examples on this list are pretentious horseshit, and restaurants always charge you more for it. I’ll stick to real gravy on my taters and real parmesan cheese on my spaghetti. Yeah, it’s probably ok to listen to the sounds of the sea while I shovel clam chowder into my pie-hole, but it would take away from my own slurping noises. And if everyone else in the restaurant has their ear buds in, I could go ahead and complement Francois the chef with a few well timed, window rattling belches. Hot ice cream? It’s called flan or custard or that fried ice cream ball you get at Casa Bonita. Vapor? I say who ever smelt it, dealt it.
I’ll stick to the drive thru at Mickey D’s. They have this unique cooking method by frying slender stalks of potatoes in beef tallow that makes them turn out just right.
But I did enjoy today’s offering Jamie.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:09 am
slipstick: do you live somewhere that has access to Alton Brown from Good Eats? He’s into the science of cooking. He doesn’t just tell you how but WHY. Love him. I don’t get it much while I’m in the UK, but I have some of his DVD’s.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:11 am
i am always facinated how science permeates every aspect of our lives…
i have never had the “haute cuisine” experience…
but on a recent trip to New York, I had the pleasure of dining at Del Posto…after having reservations booked 1 month in advance!!!
it was, by far, the most phenominal meal I had ever had…then I had lunch the next day at the Mandarin Orient… i have never before, or since, spent 100$ on myself for lunch! wonderful meal, ambiance was decadent, but Del Posto really opened my eyes…if i could afford to eat like that every day, i wouldn’t be so overweight…small portions don’t matter when quality and cuisine are impeccable!
it’s cheaper to eat crummy food, and when you are a college student in today’s American economy, you shop at Sam’s Club and have a monthly food budget of 80$ tops.
ringtailroxy
December 16th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Eh. Why do you have to draw the line on what your own personal money is spent on?
If a person has the money, why should they not spend it? Let it sit in a savings account? Give it all away?
And no, just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should. Just because you can make art doesn’t mean you should. I mean, there are places that need volunteers, why waste your time on something frivolous?
I don’t think it’s pretentious, I think it’s interesting and apparently tasty too. It’s a bit like art for your mouth. Ears get to listen to pretty music and eyes get to look at pretty photos and noses get to smell pretty candles, why not treat your mouth? I don’t think it’s much different from spending $100 on a concert, between tickets and transport and drinks and a CD. Or spending $200 a year on going to the movies, which I happen to consider pointless. I’ve been to two movies this year, only because I was taken out. I would rather spend my $200 on one nice meal.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:32 am
soakfu: Liquid nitrogen is not that scary…for your chemical lecturer to almost have lost his finger to frostbite he would have had to have his hand in there for a long time which doesn’t make any sense…it’s like keeping your hand on a burner and not taking it off, you wouldn’t do that. I work with liquid nitrogen every single day at my job and I stick my fingers in it all the time to pull out vials of tissue (while wearing latex gloves of course but that’s all you need)
LOVE THIS LIST JAMIE
December 16th, 2008 at 7:33 am
I personally would rather hear that someone is splurging on amenities as apposed to things they never really needed or will never really use. I mean we all need food and if you want to spend money on it go for it. You worked for that money…so it’s yours to spend how you chose.
“Tricia-OK fine I don’t wear designer clothing. My brands are Target and the Gap. ”
I am pretty sure the gap is name brand. I am also sure that I have been in Target and seen just a single skirt run as much as 35.00-40.00 USD. I am pretty sure that you could find clothes cheaper else where so therefore Target and Gap could be considered luxuary to some people.
I just think we are all making our own money and we can spend it how we choose.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:41 am
hello Listverse..
your previous posts are somewhat LAME…
please promise that the next list that you’ll be posting will be bizarre, disgusting, scary etc…
thanks
December 16th, 2008 at 7:45 am
the picture for number five makes me want steak at 9:45 am.
Thats a first.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Nice List JFrater – just a pity my meal would cost me more than my airfare from where I live.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:47 am
These types of restaurants usually only appeal to elitist snobs who go for the purpose of being *seen* to be dining there, and then to boast about it endlessly to friends and acquaintances afterwards (or indeed anyone who feigns interest). A modern version of one-upmanship.
And I agree with astraya and Tricia. There’s something horribly obscene about forking out such huge amounts of dosh on one meal when fully two thirds of the world’s population still goes to bed hungry every night. It’s just pretentious and wrong on so many levels.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:50 am
That wasn’t a personal attack on you jfrater. Rather a general observation on the trend of excessive consumption which is so prevalent in the western world.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:59 am
If you’ve ever had “Dippin Dots” ice cream, you’ve had a food prepared with liquid nitrogen.
December 16th, 2008 at 8:02 am
well, all the moaning and whining aside, id sure like a bowl of that ice cream.
December 16th, 2008 at 8:03 am
A lot of these are pretty much “mash something up in a new way and call it something special.” Sorry, but when normal people mash potatoes, they call them “mashed potatoes.”
December 16th, 2008 at 8:04 am
This is what makes me excited about cooking. Something new to learn! A new way of thinking about food preparation. You can cook things all your life and truely enjoy the flavor but nothing is quite like the first time you make something succesfully. The pride and excitement. I think all chefs are looking to capture that feeling again and push the boudaries of the profession.
Great List for foodies!
December 16th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Sorry, but I’m not going to spend hundreds of dollars on a plate full of air and powder. I don’t see the point in most of these techniques. Experimentation and taste explosions are all very well, but I can’t imagine any of this making a satisfying meal. Slow-cooked meat is probably very tasty, but do you have to order it 24 hours in advance? My workplace publishes the (outrageously expensive) El Bulli books, and to me they come across as food porn. This kind of cuisine is more about impressing people than feeding them.
December 16th, 2008 at 8:17 am
So it was an advert for the Fat Duck then? It was mentioned atleast six times and is probably frequented by the kind of out of touch morons that want their food cooked in a particle accelerator because everyone else can only afford fire. Yes, it is a concept in cooking but then so is heating a dead sparrow with a zippo and then charging two hundered bucks for it because “I’m an artist”.
Yes, people are starving in the world and its one of the saddest things imaginable, especially when some smug chef is serving an asshole an overpriced dish that fuels the smug, pretentious drive for this rubbish to continue and snowball….
December 16th, 2008 at 8:19 am
re # 39 & 40 Cooking at 50 degrees.
A few years ago the Fat Duck did receive a compliance order after a visit from local environmental health department. They were able to show with the aid of scientists that the methods were perfectly safe and as effective at preventing bacterial growth as normal cooking. British food safety laws would require food be cooked to 75/82 degrees core temperature and held hot at a minimum of 63 degrees. These rules were not complied with so he received the order. He contested it and won. As to why it’s effective, can’t honestly remember.
December 16th, 2008 at 8:24 am
I don’t know how comfortable I am eating chemical based foods like this. The liquid nitrogen items seem ok b/c it’s pure foods frozen quickly, so you’re not eating the liquid nitrogen (obviously). I don’t think I’m prepared yet for chemically enhanced foods. I eat all organic and believe the fewer ingredients the better. Whatever is naturally on Earth is what sustains life, so it’s the best food in my opinion.
I also agree astraya & Tricia. The point is it is worthless to advance 1% of the population if the other 99% are still starving and dieing of diseases. It would be understandable if humanity was working on helping each other at the same time they are working on extra curricular items (like fancier food), but we have yet to learn to work together to save the planet and our species. It’s always made me wonder why people are cloning sheep while simultaneously destroying other species of life. The sheep are fine! We have plenty of them right now; help the others we’re killing off with pollution and human expansion!
December 16th, 2008 at 8:33 am
I posted my little item before I read some of the other comments dealing with indulgence and extravagance.
First of all, I’m about as middle class as they come. Most of the stuff listed will never touch my lips, except on the rare occasion when I’m out on a date and I want to take whomever I’m with out for an impressive meal. But I really can’t understand bringing the starvation and suffering angle into a list like this. It doesn’t have to be as fatalistic as all that. I’m sorry, I’m not Christopher Robin and I can’t cheer up some of you Eeyores out there. I’m not going to be guilted into refraining from a slab of steaming prime rib or lobster just because there are starving people in the world. I’m quite thankful that I have the means to consume such a meal. For most of my life I’ve been more poor than flush, so if I happen to have the fat paper, I’m going to enjoy it, spend it, give some of it away and try to be happy with whatever’s in front of me at dinner time whether it’s Top Ramen, Charlie Tuna or bacon vapor.
It’s a list of weird techniques and cuisine, not a social commentary on rich vs. poor. Lighten up Debbie Downer!
December 16th, 2008 at 8:45 am
Fancy list, but give me some good ol’ country fried steak smothered in gravy, mashed taters and corn anytime for $4.50 at the diner. And I’m wondering is #10 on this list an appetizer or a meal, cause if thats a meal, then you’ll need about 8 courses to feed a man.
December 16th, 2008 at 8:52 am
bucslim: your first post had me laughing out loud. well done, sir.
alot of these i have seen on either “iron chef america” or “good eats”. i wouldn’t mind trying most of them just for the experience. would i pay for foam/air/vapor. no. would i pay for ice cream with no crystals? you bet ya. would i pay for the most tender, “cut with a spoon” steak that has been crusted with a blow torch? where do i sign up?
but being that i live in houston, dining at fat duck isn’t really an option. so i will go to a local chef who sautees thinly sliced strips of marinated beef shank with julianned onions covered with a fine powder of garlic salt and then sprinkles in aged jack cheese and then presents it with a covering of hand pressed lightly grilled dough. otherwise known as a burrito.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:00 am
50. downhighway61: I comepltely agree.
And as for all the people complaining about the extravagance, belive me that in my part of the world, some people would consider your internet connection an unattainable luxury. Are you willing to give up the money you spend on that in order to send it to people in need? You have food, clothes and shelter, do you really need the internet? Or the cable service I´m sure you have?
Who is more concerned about the world´s poor and suffering: the person who eats at these places but still donates money and time to charity or the person who screams “unnecessary indulgences and luxuries” but does nothing?
Give me a break…
December 16th, 2008 at 9:15 am
Cool List – with quite a few techniques I haven’t heard of. I live very close to the Culinary Institute of America and have had the pleasure of dining in 2 of thier restaurants. But, have never had an experience quite like the ones mentioned here.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Disc, thank you old friend, for the kudos. Nice to know I still make some people laugh.
By the way, the best shrimp I ever had was when I was on a sales trip to Houston 100 years ago before I became the greatest video producer in the midwest. I can still see the pile of empty shells on my plate.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:35 am
Remember the good old days when movies made fun of haute cuisine where a $$$$$ meal consisted of two teeny carrots and on small shrimp in the middle of a plate with a drip of sauce. Air and dust and vapor indeed.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Unusual cooking concepts – We used to fish off the coast and bring in 4 or 5 shad in 15 min.
We dug a hole +- 400mm deep, and put in active charcoal, the fishes were gutted – tail and head off scales left on,and wrapped in banana leaves put on the coals, followed by a second layer of coals on top
Cover that with sand .
Wait 45 min. and take it out the scales and skin falls away.
You have to be a fish lover to appreciate this, the salt – iodine taste is incredible.
Sorry guys I left the beaten track for a wee while.
December 16th, 2008 at 10:14 am
Fantastic list, Jamie! I love it!
I would love to try the powders, especially the caramel powder.
My husband and I are both something of the “gourmet” cook, and we almost never eat out. There are a few of these methods I am going to research to see if we can duplicate them at home.
YUM!
December 16th, 2008 at 10:17 am
I don’t think that this list represents overindulgence in any way. These are not ways to spend more money, rather they are simply different ways to cook food. As jfrater pointed out many of these methods are not very expensive to do, they simply require more or different steps than most people are used to.
I think the real overindulgence is when restaurants intentionally use exspenive ingredients in order to drive the price up. I’m thinking of an article I read that was talking about the worlds most expensive hamburger. I think it had Kobe beef, premium caviar, the most expensive truffles on the market and was topped with flakes of gold. Something like that is meant for people who want to say they paid 1000 dollars for a burger. The interesting thing is that the burger is still probably cooked the way we all do at home.
December 16th, 2008 at 10:46 am
modelpenguin @65:
“It’s always made me wonder why people are cloning sheep while simultaneously destroying other species of life. The sheep are fine! We have plenty of them right now.”
Umm…you DO know why the cloned the sheep right? It had nothing to do with making more sheep! They wanted to see if they could actually do it and unless you would rather have them test on a human first, a sheep worked just fine. And the whole point of it was to see if it worked and if so, we could clone human body parts for people who needed transplants. The cloning of Dolly was a huge breakthrough for science, an outcome with the hope of being able to save lives.
December 16th, 2008 at 11:04 am
No, they cloned the sheep for more lamb chops
December 16th, 2008 at 11:04 am
and sweaters for poor people
December 16th, 2008 at 11:14 am
I live just down the road from Alenia (#7) and talk to Grant (the Executive Chef, not the guy in the video) now and again. He is one of the nicest guys I have ever met. He’s eaten in my restaurant a few times and an all-around great guy. I have said that to say this: For the most part, the artisans crafting these foods, myself included, are just that. This is basically art that one can eat. If Sotheby’s and the like can auction famous peoples clothing and other forms of art or collectibles for outrageous sums, why is food looked at in a different manner?
The funny thing about it though is that most fine dining chefs I know, although we all love food like this, most of us want sushi or a big greasy cheeseburger on our days off.
JFrater: Great list. There is another Chicago restaurant you should check out. It’s called Moto. The chef’s name is Homaro Cantu and he is a genius. Hope to see more food related lists in the future.
December 16th, 2008 at 11:16 am
I forgot: Yes I have eaten at Alenia a few times and it is always worth it. Amazing wine selection, even better food. Although the meal is very small portions, you get quite a few of them and are always satisfied.
December 16th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Cauliflower ice cream?
Whoever came up with that should have to do penance.
December 16th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Somehow I have the impression that ChicagoChef and Homaro Cantu are the same person
December 16th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Great List!
December 16th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
I guess the basic question is do you live to eat or eat to live?
December 16th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Tricia: hey- life would be dull if we agreed on everything
You can have your dry bread and I can have my foie gras and we can still be friends and have a damned good time!!
December 16th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
bucslim (47): “I could have a baggie of bacon powder at work and snort a few lines in the bathroom”
You could be on to a brilliant marketing idea!!
December 16th, 2008 at 12:22 pm
ChicagoChef: thanks for posting – I have indeed heard of Moto and Cantu! At some point I will try to make a trip to the US to try some of the molecular gastronomy happening there. I am particularly keen to check out Minibar which has a 30+ course tasting menu – it looks amazing but only seats 6 so I will book my holiday around restaurant reservations
December 16th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
jfrater – does the bacon powder make you paranoid? Can you pack it into rocks and smoke it? Would it smell like hickory? Instead of crack it could be called ‘cracklin’ or ’scraplin’
Most people’s vision of excessive drug use would be snorting coke off of a stripper’s ass, mine would be to snort bacon powder off a pigs ass.
December 16th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
buc: lol, but if you are gonna be that close to a pig’s ass, why go with the powder? you are inches away from the real thing.
December 16th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
bucslim: hahah cracklin! That is a perfect name for your new product! Oh – and while I am happy to try the product – you can keep the pigs ass for yourself
DiscHuker: that really gave me quite a revolting image in my mind!
December 16th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
CJ: because cooking and eating is my number one hobby, I live to eat
I am sure most eat to live though.
December 16th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Hey JF,
When you come to the US stop in Atlanta and I’ll take you to Gladys Knight Chicken and Waffles. It will put your foie gras to shame!
December 16th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
MT: hehe we shall see
December 16th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I think that seen in the intro is supposed to be seen. Good list! Food actually does taste more flavorful in the dark!
December 16th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Excellent list Jamie. I would save for a long time in order to try some of these dishes. That wouldn’t be extravagance in my books, just money well spent. Conspicuous consumption would entail eating for the sake of spending money, not for the taste or experience.
I would really like to try the fancy-ass boil-in-bag btw. (actually simmer). The steak looks awesome.
December 16th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
Remind me to never ever eat at Fat Duck.
December 16th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Ever.
December 16th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Wonderful list. Makes me want to go out and eat… I only wish I could go to one of the restaurants mentioned
December 16th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
I think that all this stuff is ridicolous. I bet you can eat better food here in Italy too.
Nitrogen to avoid ice crystals in ice cream? What ice crystals? Eat real italian ice cream and you won’t find ice crystals.
Also adding chemicals to food cant’ be good, even if someone tells you it’s ok for you.
Believe me: in my town 80 years old ladies can make sublime tagliatelle using a couple of eggs, flour and water and add fantastic ragù (meat sauce) that can bring you to tears.
Of course this doesn’t happen only in Italy.
All this is hype. Amazing stuff, of course. But I’ll stick to the good old stuff.
December 16th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
OK, please STOP! I´m trying to fit into my wedding dress for this Friday and all this talk about bacon powder and foie gras is just making me extremely HUNGRY!
Maybe I can have just a little bit of the powder… Just a little man, come on… Just a tiny taste…
bucslim: you made my day… I was just about to get irritated with the people crying about the over-indulgence of this list (actually, scratch that, I already got irritated and posted my rant above…
) but you comments have brightened my mood… I thank you!
December 16th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
some of those are pretty intense! I’d love to try the liquid nitrogen. It may be a failure if i try it, but fun none the less !
December 16th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
I have to wonder about what happens to the first chicken in Heston Blumenthal’s recipe that you descibe above under 6. If it’s cooked purely for the juices, does that mean the meat of a whole chicken is wasted everytime you order one of these meals? I certainly hope not… I’m not one to say that people shouldn’t indulge in some manner of luxurious food because of the hardships endured by others, but I find wasting food, especially meat, to be abobinable.
December 16th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Oh my, I’m so hungry now. Gaaaaah, this list is magnificent, it’s my dream to enjoy all the most amazing tastes of the world someday. This list makes my heart ache
December 16th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I find many of these fascinating. I don’t think this is about overindulgence at all. If you have the money to spend on this kind of food (on occasion) then no one should be able to make you feel bad for that. I have tried some of these done fairly cheaply and I still donate to charities.
December 16th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
As usual, cool list.
But I cant help but feel disgusted. This is beyond food or eating anything for the sake of it being appetizing, just luxurious culinary masturbation. In order for us to live our rich spoiled lives, a huge amount of poor people need to exist. This is just rubbing it in their faces, that their countries have been exploited and pillaged for resources for assholes to eat some incredibly wasteful overpriced meals.
If little kids in Cambodia saw this list they would cry.
December 16th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
I completely understand the differences in opinion found in this list’s comments. I have noticed the same differences in opinion on the two occasions I have experienced a degustation menu at the best restaurant in my home city. Some people ‘get it’ and some people don’t.
Personally I am a ‘foodie’, and luckily so is my partner. As a result we enjoy this type of food as it is intended…with full appreciation of the various flavours, aromas, and textures, and the way each course complements the others. This type of menu really is a journey of the senses.
Understandably other people do not share this appreciation and prefer simple old-fashioned cooking. There’s nothing wrong with that at all, but I believe that is why this style of food seems pointless to some.
Yes it is expensive, and yes I’m sure there are some that attend these restaurants simply to ‘be seen’. However for those of us that don’t mind indulging every now and then (once a year on my anniversary for me), and for those of us that truly appreciate the skill, artistry, and sensual feast that this type of food can bring, enjoying this variety of meal is an incredibly memorable experience.
Hopefully one day I’ll be lucky enough to attend one of the world-leading restaurants mentioned in this list
December 16th, 2008 at 5:39 pm
jakooooob (105) (and others making the point that this type of food demonstrates ‘excessive and selfish morals’) -
Can you honestly say that you do nothing in your own life that would be classed as ‘rubbing it in the faces’ of those people in need that you are championing?
As most commentors here would be from Western societies, we all no doubt are in a much better socio-economic position than many in third world countries. As such, I am sure every one of us has ’splurged’ on something at least once in our lives that less fortunate individuals would absolutely love to be able to do.
Whether it be purchasing a new television, opting for that luxurious option on a motor vehicle, or even just purchasing the ‘good brand’ of cat food in a store, every one of us is guilty of having some little indulgence that we have ‘wasted’ our money on…money that could have been donated to charity instead.
The fact is, we foodies indulge in an expensive meal every now and then. Those that see food merely as a means of survival do not understand how we can spend that much money on a meal. But then I can’t understand how some people can spend so much money on a luxury car, when a cheap second-hand model performs the same function. Do you see the point I am trying to make?
Before criticising people for apparently wasting money that could be used helping others, take a look at your own life. If you can honestly say that you have not thrown your money at some activity or item that you did not absolutely need then I will gladly lay down my arms.
Note: I DO agree with those that criticise people that eat this type of food regularly. I believe it is designed to be consumed every once in a while, not every week.
December 16th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
ok i dont get #6. If I leave my steak out for 24 hours, wont it be raw/rotten? i mean, room tempature is usualy like 75 or so, so at 50 degrees you cant cook it at all.
unless you mean centigrade…
i know there are some wacky europeans on this server.
December 16th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
LOL, this list reminds me of “The Emperor and his New Clothes” story!!! Fifteen years ago we would have baulked at the idea of paying for bottled water! Now it’s air!!! LMAO
December 16th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
Why is #5 (sous vide) served up with condoms?
December 16th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
GTT – good luck on your wedding and many happy years. Perhaps bacon powder could be sprinkled on your cake. Besides, after you’ve hooked your man, you can have all the bacon you want!! Wheeee!
From the way you sounded, we need a spoon, a lighter and a needle. Screw the skag, give me a bacon hit!
December 16th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
The liquid nitrogen method of making ice cream, we did in IB Chem 2. That was awesome.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Saying foods like this is extravagance is 1) entirely correct and 2) completely beside the point.
Looking at this list and saying the art featured here is a waste of time/money is like walking through a fine art museum and saying the paint on the canvasses could have been used to paint some poor farmers house in a third world country, or that the artist should donate his talent and time to laying said paint on said house.
I would dearly love to eat ice cream that melts in reverse, just for the experience. I believe I already make meat you can cut with a spoon. I will never be able to afford to go to these places, even during the “fat” years of my life. I consider shopping at Target or the Gap an extravagance, and sometimes even Walmart is way out of my budget. I don’t begrudge people who can afford these delicacies their indulgences, nor do I feel they (or you) should feel obliged to help me, or anyone else less fortunate.
And lastly…the artists charge that much for such a meal because they CAN. Even with the natural economic models of supply/demand culling out many patrons, you still have to book your meal 1-4 months in advance. If the place was empty, the price would have to come down. And of course, this is where conspicuous consumption comes in, if some people’s patronage is merely bragging rights.
But do not bemoan the money spent! The famous chefs who get all that money go out and buy themselves a Ferrari! And the worker who fabricated the Ferrari (who is pretty well paid) buys himself a new television. The television manufacturer’s workers eat, the television component supplier’s workers eat, etc, and so it goes. And we all know where electronic components are made, because western workers require too much money in order to maintain their standard of living, even one as meager as mine.
bucslim: You live in Houston? Take me out to eat.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
ahleena (113) Well said. My feelings exactly.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
jfrater- re #3: “smell (perhaps the most important sense next to taste)” – that’s a bit inaccurate, isn’t it? When it comes to flavors of food, the tongue really plays little role other than detecting the basics of sweet, salty, sour, bitter, and umami. All the rest of the taste of food is olfactory.
While I am one to (usually) eat only when hungry, I would love to try some of these. So far I haven’t found much food that beats the filet mignon and sashimi of our local japanese steakhouse, and at $50 for two people, you can’t go wrong.
As far as extravagance versus the poor goes, I’ll tell you a story. My grandmother was a POW by the japanese in WWII, and watched many friends starve to death. When she came to America, she went to a potluck at a local church and saw garbage cans full of wasted food. She never prayed or went to church again. However, grandma knew good food, loved to go out for nice dinners, and didn’t throw away the spice rack because there are other people starving. It makes no sense.
December 16th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
I think haute cuisine is comparable to contemporary art for me. Some of it sounds rather interesting…some of it just makes me shake my head. I agree with OldRedneck and DiscHucker; give me some Mexican or Southern food and I’m a happy person. Although I would definetely hit up a bowl of ice-crystal free ice cream any day
December 17th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Personally, being a college student, I would like to request that the leftover Chicken Mark I be given to someone who would be happy to eat something with less flavour than cardboard as long as it took away the hunger pangs. Perhaps this is done. If so, kudos to restaurants for appealing to people with money and providing for those who don’t.
I also think that the ability to make flavour should be combined with the ability to extract nutrience, and we’ll have solved two problems in one.
Finally, all those who dislike the ice crystals in their ice cream, send them my way. I’ll take a nice refreshing bowl of ice crystals any day. All the coolness, none of the calories.
December 17th, 2008 at 12:11 am
I should add that any Listversers who are traversing the wilds of Southern Ontario and looking for the interesting company of a fellow addict, let me know.
I’ll buy the ice crystals.
December 17th, 2008 at 12:31 am
We used to make ice-cream with liquid nitrogen in my university chemistry class, mmmmm it’s so good.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:32 am
Jamie in particular and everyone else in general: As I was going through my morning routine today I thought that so much of life in a modern, industrialised country might be considered unnecessary and selfish by historical or worldwide standards. In the space of 20 minutes, without trying, I clocked up: electric lighting, central heating, hot running water, soap, shampoo, shaving cream, a triple-blade razor, various body lotions and processed cereal, then had to choose which clothes to wear.
How much of that would I give up on historical or worldwide grounds? Maybe the triple blade razor and some of the body lotions.
I was in a rotten mood yesterday evening. I must now say that this is a fascinating list, well-researched and well-written. I won’t be running off to experience any of these. If anyone wants to, and can justify it in their own minds, then I’m not going to stop them.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:30 am
And then we have the plethora of all these modern diseases. And you wonder why !
December 17th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Ahleena – alas, I do not live in Houston, I believe Dischuker lives there. I was there once on a business trip and sampled the local cuisine. But it would almost be worth the drive for me to finally go on a date.
(assuming you are female)
(preferably in your 20’s, long hair, college degree)
(attracted to middle aged balding husky guys)
(by ‘husky’ I mean a little overweight)
(ok overweight)
(and with nymphomaniac qualities)
(you nymphomaniac not me)
Hey, if I’m going to shell out for some flavored air and the bacon powder you’re going to have to ‘pay’ me right? Ha ha ha . . . uh Ha?
Anyway, I liked what you said, I agree totally.
December 17th, 2008 at 8:09 am
113. ahleena: Beautifully said, and I totally agree. Every job, every dollar spent, affects an entire line of workers, subcontractors, their families, the economy.
Now what interests me in particular is the bacon powder and hoping other meats can be powdered, since my digestive system can’t digest red meat (except for small amounts of lamb).
I miss the taste of meat. Every once in a while I just really crave a nice juicy steak, or at least the flavor of one! The powders might be the answer. Mmmmmmmm, a little bowl of filet mignon powder.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
All this is a little to fancy for me.To each his own.Im not a picky eater and I would try any of the above listed.But I ain`t paying for it.
December 17th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
Jackie – you proved my point (and didn’t get my joke). It doesn’t take much to distract people from the things that really need help.
And just b/c I’m on the internet doesn’t mean I’m not doing my part.
December 17th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Another way of putting this is in terms of needs and wants. Does anyone need any of these things? No. Does anyone want any of these things? Apparently. Do I need the cup of coffee I am about to drink? Do I want it?
December 17th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
cool~
December 18th, 2008 at 8:33 am
It all comes down to individual opinion – or conscience if you like – as to what might constitute reasonable sustenance and what might appear to be over-the-top greedy self indulgence.
astraya: Would the cup of coffee you just drank seem like conspicuous consumption to a Colombian coffee plantation worker? Probably, if he or she wasn’t able to afford the fruits of their labor at local market prices.
Would the notion of spending $200 or more (a year’s salary for many people throughout the world) on a single meal be understood by anyone struggling to raise a family in atrocious conditions? Probably not, whether or not they live in Darfur, Cambodia, a corrugated iron hut in the Appalachian mountains, or in a draughty underpass in the Bronx.
I work full-time and manage to survive and raise my daughter alone on less than $10 a day. My situation isn’t unusual. Most of my salary goes towards keeping a (leaky) roof over our heads and paying the bills, and my British family pay for internet and phone service every year as a Christmas present, because those are luxury items to us and without their help we simply couldn’t afford them. Do I resent or judge people who choose to indulge in such overpriced luxury on a regular or even occasional basis? No I don’t, although I’m bewildered by – and can’t relate to – their desire for such excess when there are so many people starving in the world. I consider myself rich in many ways, even though statistically speaking I’m below the poverty line. Monetarily poor, yes, by American standards. Filthy rich by Third World standards.
It’s all a matter of perspective.
What I can’t donate to charity in terms of money I try to make up for with time, random acts of kindness and volunteer work – lots of it. There will always be those who are much less fortunate than we ourselves are, however dire we believe our circumstances to be. It behooves us as human beings to remember that instead of mindlessly forgetting as we ’scarf at the trough.’
Historical footnote: If 18th-century French aristocrats hadn’t behaved so decadently and excessively, stuffing their faces with foie gras from gold-plated dinnerware in full view of the starving masses, perhaps there wouldn’t have been a Reign of Terror. Food for thought?
December 18th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
128. Juliet: I understand your situation all too well. I raised 3 children alone, and while 2 of them were still in grammar school and 1 in middle school, helped my mum nurse my dying father.
Three years later mum suffered a massive stroke, so I now had 3 children and a paralyzed mum to care for, plus I had to work to keep us afloat.
But you’re right, too, you can’t spend any time bemoaning the fact that the rich and famous can afford a $500 dinner out. It does no one any good to worry about, and it keeps people working.
Sure, things are different now, but even though we could afford a fancy dinner out, we wouldn’t spend the money. It’s a matter of principle.
December 19th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
If you watch the show Top Chef on Bravo, you’ve seen a lot of these techniques being used.
The chef that won in the third season used the sous vide technique so much that it was an inside joke at the end of the season.
Last season, contestant Richard Blais showed master chef Eric Ripert how to make bacon ice cream with liquid nitrogen.
I have to admit though…..air? Vapor? Geez, give me an In-N-Out Double Double animal style any day.
December 21st, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Hm.. Well nice list… I usually like the bizarre ones lol, but oh well lol, anyways I noticed there’s like … some kind of discussion about ethics …related to this kind of food and stuff.. well yeah,..it sounds kinda cruel to think they waste a whole chicken for the purpose of one expensive meal, and I was surprised that jfrater didn’t seem to think that way but then I remembered cooking is his passion and it is really really hard to concentrate on how our passions can affect the world and other people, it happens, and then I read people talk about how we can spend the money we earned with hard work in whatever we want…hmmm that made me think a little.. I mean it sounds right.. but then the image of poor people comes to my mind.. I don’t really think that spending so much on this kind of things is very good, but then again.. we are not really responsible for poor people, I mean we have goverments, everything around us is really messed up …lol sorry I’m really confused now lol… I have a fever right now and troat infection .. I just keep having flashbacks of my life when I was living in my home country .. a third world one, and sometimes the only thing we had to eat was tortillas and salt (It actually tastes very good) .. and it wasn’t our fault that things were so messed up, neither my parent’s which are both chemist and thanks to them we could escape from that hell and come to this country, but back to those times when we were poor, I would have killed for a whole chicken for my family, also I think we were happier back then.. the world is a really messed up place, isn’t it?
December 22nd, 2008 at 9:22 am
Of course the world is a messed up place, samsaragx . But most of the messing up is not the fault of people (oh, a great deal is, don’t get me wrong, a very great deal is)but by and large, the most misery is the fault of disease, and disease aftermaths. Especially when you have children left as survivors, alone in the world, with no one to care for them, and no structured environment.
Governments are, in a large part, to blame for the misery of the diseases and their aftermaths, by not doing enough, or not anything, to prevent the diseases. So, too, could education and health care, provided free of charge to all children, help alleviate misery in the new generation.
Children who have raised themselves in a world of personal and general misery, in the most dire poverty, are prone to the most dire, the most psychotic violence.
*That* is messed up. That is something that doesn’t have to be.
These children can be saved, one by one, but only very young, before the violence and despair have had a chance to take a foothold. After that it requires professional work to get through to these poor children, on the brink of a life of violence and psychotic behavior, before they fall…and still for some it will be too late; some of them will fall.
Yes, it’s a messed up world, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t enjoy ourselves. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t reap the fruits of our labor. Yes, we should have a conscious, and yes, we should find our own way of giving back, but we should never, ever, deprive ourselves of the pleasures we have worked for because someone else is in misery. Our denial does them no good.
December 22nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm
these techniques are used often on Top Chef and on Iron Chef America. You would probably love both these shows ,if you aren’t a fan already!! Thanks for the list Jamie
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
omgosh… i am enlightened! I shall now try and cook like these…sigh, if only i had the right ingredients. Should I go to the supermarket or the chemistry lab? xD Everything sounds sooo appetizing! I want to see someone make “beef noodles”
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Wow it almost seems that to be a chief today one needs a degree in chemistry lol
February 10th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
liquid nitrogen ice cream looks so good…i saw a video of someone making chocolate nitrogen ice cream and it made me want to try it soo bad!
March 17th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
i love to cook, and i want to try each and every one of these new techniques. they all sound so good! thanks, jfrater!
July 6th, 2009 at 9:02 am
i have made a cookbook on making liquid nitrogen foods they are incredible. i used to work in a lab with a cafateria next door so i would experiment with things and i made some really good stuff
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Sous vide does not use boiling water. the water temp usually does not go above 150 degrees