Over the 7 months that the site has been running, things have gone pretty smoothly. There have, however, been a few occasions where mistakes were made that needed correcting. This is my list-of-humility where I tell you the biggest mistakes I have made! Consider it my Lenten penance!
10. Not Citing Sources
I think we have all seen the result of not quoting sources – 100 comments bitching about plagiarism! It turns out that Wikipedia has a policy that you must open source any document that quotes even the tinniest bit of it and must cite every page you quote. I didn’t know that when we started out and a LOT of internet police decided to tell me! I am so sorry! I now open source any document that may even smell of citations from Wikipedia so as to not offend the Wikipedia police. (image above: Jfrater upholding copyright law).
9. Posting an offensive list
While the site was very young I posted a list that was very politically incorrect. At the time I didn’t consider it a problem, but I should have known that our large American viewership might not agree. After a couple of hours of squirming, I deleted the list. I won’t name the list – it is better forgotten!
8. Not Editing Lists
I have received many lists which I just posted straight to the site because I love the topic – but I didn’t check them first. The result of this is normally that I spend a good two hours going back and editing the list each time someone notices an error! I submit all lists to the site through special software for the Mac which has a built in spellchecker so I really have no excuse not to check first!
7. Not Checking Uniqueness of Lists
I have had to delete two lists (which is probably pretty good considering the number of submissions I have received) because it turned out that they were verbatim copies of other sites. The good news is that since this has happened I have become a lot tougher on submitted lists.
6. Editing a Live Site
I am sure that many of you have experienced very weird quirks on the site which are due to my editing and testing new ideas on the live site! To be honest, I have not managed to set up a beta site that will let me test out new stuff so I just do it straight on the live site. I am terrified that one of these days the change will lead to catastrophe! I promise to set up a test site ASAP! Cyn (pictured above typing out my latest list as I dictate to her) will smack me if I don’t.
5. Ranting in Comments
I try very hard to keep my cool when commenting and reading comments – but there have been a few occasions where I have become very agitated and have said a lot more than I should! On a few occasions this has led me to edit or delete comments the next day when I have calmed down. (Image above: jfrater “chatting” on the bible stories list).
4. Commenting when Drunk
I think most people on the site now know that I enjoy a tipple on a regular occasion. Unfortunately there have been a few times that I have posted comments whilst under the influence which, on viewing the next day, shame me so greatly that I have to delete them and hope no one noticed! (image above – jfrater the morning after).
3. Not Upgrading soon enough
Long timers (read Ravyn, Juggz, Cyn, Kelsi, etc.) will be well aware of the downtime we have suffered on the site in our seven months. Little did I know when I started the List Universe that we would become so popular so quickly that I would need to upgrade to multiple servers! If I had had the foresight, I would have gone straight to the higher priced servers instead of upgrading by tiny stages. This will not happen again – we are moving to a big cluster soon. (image above: sponge-jfrater so excited about the traffic that he forgets to upgrade the servers).
2. Adding a NSFW category
Now I know that many of you supported me in the inclusion of this Not Safe For Work category, but in hindsight I realized that it crippled me. Prior to adding the category I had posted many lists that contained content that people might consider NSFW but I always added a warning and no one complained. As soon as I introduced this category I realized that people would rely on it to determine which lists they should avoid – the result was that if I wanted to do a future list of serial killers, due to the photos I would have to make it NSFW. This excluded many people from good quality historical lists.
1. Writing Too Many Lists
In order to satisfy, I do, on occasion, write lists that are not as good as my usual output just to make sure you are all getting lots of lists during the day. The end result is that they are not the best and people complain. I have even had people say they would rather see fewer lists of better quality. Henceforth I shall only write good lists and will throw away the bad “fillers”! (image above: jfrater on an average listverse morning).
Afterword
Many thanks to Cyn (pictured in item 6) who did a great job editing this list to prevent problems related to item 4!






























i do think i need to update my do. LOL
What?!?! I find it refreshingly retro!
gawd…next pic..update to Starfleet uniform please.
ROFLMAO!
That’s it? That’s the worst you did. I bet if I tried what you did I would humiliate myself in a heartbeat
Nice site… i like the most of List…but… Why can’t I see pictures in Google Reader? I think that it’s a bad choice, BUT also I understand you, there are so many fu***** people copy&pasting your list and pics. So, I´ll try to visit this blog often… but it would be easier if I could read it from my RSS feed.
Thanks for the LIST!
(I’m not native english speaker, sorry for my “expressions”)
nico
#9 the ‘differences’ list? I didn’t realise you’d deleted it! I think, though, that we can forgive you for all the entries on this list J, all the good you’ve done on the site cancels them out many times over!
What list are u talking abt in #9. I cant sleep without knowing…Just tell us what it was about…
Is this your list you made while drunk? It looks quite well written for a drunk list. Well done.
Cyn, you look a lot like Katherine Janeway. I love Janeway!
8. JwJwBean
*wink* she is much older of course.
The differences list?Between brits n americans?That was offensive?
JwJwBean: hahaha yes – when drunk I spend extra time revising
Plus I sent it to a sober cyn to clean up first
nicolmotion: I understand. Maybe I will do lists that you can read in Google Reader soon! But come here anyway!
dangorironhide: differences list? You mean Europe and America? That was tame beside the list I deleted- the one you refer to is still on the site
I just cleaned up the differences one a bit.
Okay – the one I deleted was related to racial issues but in a famous cartoon. I will say no more!
Number 3.. I have those exact same bandaids! haha.
J: I must have missed that one then! Do tell us what it was about! haha
An idea: Have a section in the forums/another part of the site for deleted lists (sans comments of course), so people can still see what all the fuss is about.
Kayla: hehe then clearly you are awesome and are in the right place
dangorironhide: I can’t say – it would be as bad as posting the list again! All I will do is hint: it had the same name as a famous Agatha Christie novel
well jfrater I think that the legendary quote of shigeru miyamoto apply to you as well, but am gonna edit it to fit to your case.
“A delayed game(list) is eventually good, a bad game(list) is bad forever.”
I love your site…and I have never noticed a mistake!!
Ack, she isn’t my strong point at all! haha.
Maybe it’s because it’s so late (i.e. I really need to go to bed), but I can’t see any of them (looking on wiki) that could be it… Maybe ‘the Golden Ball’, just as something you dropped with that one
About the banned list: how about ‘Ten Little Niggers’? Now I’m curious too…
i demand to be added to long-time reader thingy on #3.
I may not have been commenting but damn it i was here from the start.
BTW I think the list you deleted was call And Then There Were None.
Wasn’t it? I think so.
OMG!! This mediocre, crappy-ass list website called funhigh.com is copying the old listverse look and!! Check it out!! I’m not joking!!! Those bastards!!
Tlmabp: great quote! Thanks
And to all you smarty-pants – yes, it was Ten Little Niggers (the nursery rhyme – not the Christie book of the same name – later renamed to And Then There Were None).
I posted a brilliant 30s cartoon with great illustrations for each part of the story – but then removed it. It was (obviously) not racially motivated, but I didn’t want to offend – that is the only time I have been politically correct over a list!
SubliminalDeath666: at least we have our own unique look now – they can do what they like (and fail in doing so!)
jamie, you should know by now listversers are inquisitive and have a desire to know!
beanshide you suck. beating me to it and whatnot.
remember who helped you defend Muse on the Greatest guitar Riffs List jfrater????
Oh yeah that was me.
go check the comments. you’ll see. you’ll all see…
JwJw hit the nail on the head! My, Jamie, a humble drunk??? Never would have guessed!
Juggz: You got a shout-out in a list! W00t! That means you can come back to spam-I mean comment!!! Sorry, couldn’t resist!
Oooohhhhh!!!! I remember that list. Ctrl+Alt+DELETED!!!!
*giggles gleefully* I got named tehe
anywhoo…this site is so wonderful, I thank you for all the great times.
I noticed that the NSFW category was a bit short lived… Glad to hear that you are still doing shocking lists, just sticking with the usual warning. The crazy stuff is the most fun!
I remember that un-PC list. I don’t remember it causing much of a fuss, I must have read it early on in the commenting. Slate.com did a slideshow about racist cartoons awhile back, it was pretty interesting, and quite horrifying, stuff. I believe it was about racism in advertising or some such thing.
I don’t think it is that offensive, even more if it was all about the ilustrations. And now I’m confused, because I think I remember a list with ilustrations of that kind, but if the list was so quickly erased…
Jamie: I know! Personally, I love the way this website looked than the other…. I’m not saying it looked horrible, but it’s just that sometimes when I post a comment, it refreshes right? But sometimes when it refreshes, it turns the font size from 12 to like 117!! And it REALLY irritated me! Good thing the new website theme doesn’t have this problem.
P.S. funhigh.com’s website looks like CRAP!!! It’s like spammed with the most annoying ads! LOL!!
Your awsom! i love your site!
Ravyn: lol!
Jamie: At least you weren’t drunk dialing your ‘Verser minions.
Subliminal: It is not often that I see my name imprinted on a website for anything. I have no life. I am just a mom with nothing. Nor anything to do cept read listverse and play plant tycoon.
Mistakes noted and forgotten. This site is more fun than a website oughta be. Thanks for all of your efforts.
I remember that very un-pc list jfrater. I’m about as American as they come; born and raised in Indiana, and I thought it was great. But that’s just me. What with this darned open mind and all. Damn my sense of humor.
yeah take it easy. I’m sure everyone would be satisfied with a list a day and you don’t have to do weekends. If they’re not satisfied with that then they’re greedy.
But you personally Jamie might want to make more lists then that since you were obviously put on this planet to make lists
Jamie,
THe best part of this site is the communication and how it creates a communal feeling. Keep up the great work
Thank goodness jamie, Better Lists! Im so tired of the ones like “things you need to survive in the streets” I really didn’t get that list, If you’re homeless, i doubt you have a computer.
A few drunk posts is a good thing, it makes you human instead of listverse demi-god. But now I’m curious about the offensive list. Whatever you can’t have, you want…
w00t i got mentioned in the list!
So is the NFSW category still open or not?!
Holy crap, this site is only seven months old? I know I’ve been a quiet lurker, but I’ve been coming for at least five of those months haha.
are you serious jayfray?…telling us that there was a banned list and then not naming it??? c’mon, loosen up a bit and let us re-live your bad experiences:)
you do an awesome job.
I feel so honored…and here I thought no one noticed little ole me. =D
If this is your way of appologizing, I accept. Not only that, but as soon as I have been employed long enough to actually get a check or two, I plan on heading right over to the store and going on an LV shopping spree! I shall ***** the ‘verse all over campus. And I mean ***** in the least offensive way possible, of course.
That offensive list Jamie, what was it about? Please Tell Me!
Ah Sweetie, we love you any way
(:
i want to see the banned list
lets see the banned list
you’re cute.
jfrater dont be so hard on yourself! its awesome that you’re basically running this whole site on your own, most sites have employees and all, you’re keeping things simple and its always great. anyway what was the offensive list come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we all want to hear it, no ones going to be mad,
see you next list
I think I know what the list was… it involved 10 small Negroes….
you sone went and opened the flood gates. I think you should repost the more offfensive of your lists. that way every body knows what ….. what ever….. I just got beck froma aparty. nevermind everyone who wants to know should just scroll up[. WOW I’M FEELING GOOD. pardon the tyops.. hehe.
Jfrater: I never heard a rhyme called 10 little niggers…. i do remember one that was called 10 little Indians. It went like this
one little two little three little indians, four little five little six little indians, and so on is that the same one??
And we do forgive you all of your mistakes Jfrater. You make this site the most awesome site on the web, with the way you interact with everyone and include everyone in most of the decisions (asking for opinions and such) you make about changes and such.
Jfrater you are the factor that makes this the best most unique site in the World Wide Web!!!!!!!
And for the icing on the cake you are very very hot too!!!!
You have the most beautiful eyes!!!!!
This is a page from the booklet from the post that was pulled:
http://listverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/1894littleniggerspic1-copy-1.jpg
It was all laid out in a nursery rhyme style.
The list was just 10 pages from that – I thought the cartoon style was cute and was posting it for historical interest but I got nervous so I removed it. It was posted on the 19th of August – only about a month and a half after the site started!
BTW: thanks for the amazing comments guys
I appreciate it!
Your website is very good. Unfortunately it is too good. In the interest of keeping my job in order to maintain the livelihood of me and my family, I must report this site to my System Administrator so that it can be blocked.
I doscovered this site about a month ago. I’ve done literally half as much work as I did prioir to knowing about listverse!
My boss asked me if anything was wrong and I had to make up a lame excuse about personal family problems affecting my work. But the real reason has to be this site, serioulsy.
I’m going to report it now… ehh, maybe next week.
Tomo: hahah