Top 10 Patriotic Films for the 4th of July
- Published July 4, 2008 - 137 Comments
During the forming of this list I was blown away by the sheer number of patriotic films that have been made in the US. In going through the pile of possibilities, I have intentionally chosen not to just represent saccharine movies which show only the good side of life – the films I have picked include war films, films about corruption, and films involving racism. There is, however, one underlying current in all of them – they all involve the triumph of freedom – the very heart of American patriotism. I have excluded films that would not be considered to be the best of the best – for that reason don’t expect to see Independence Day or The Patriot here. Please feel free to mention your own favorites in the comments. This list also contains a competition. Happy 4th of July!
The Sullivans (also known as the Fighting Sullivans) is a true story of five brothers who died when their ship was destroyed during a naval battle in the Pacific during World War II. Their deaths changed U.S. military policy about family enlistments (limiting siblings serving together), and later acted as a partial story catalyst for “Saving Private Ryan,” which was about the rescue of one family’s last surviving military son. Despite the battle deaths of the Sullivans, the film spends little time with them in uniform. Instead, it is a movie about growing up in heartland USA–Waterloo, Iowa. The constantly scrapping brothers (thus the title, “The Fighting Sullivans”) are likable, funny, and loyal to their siblings.
Glory recounts the bravery of a group of Civil War soldiers often overlooked by history–the 54th Regiment of Massachusetts, a troop of free black men who fought to help win liberty for their enslaved brothers. Based on the historical novels One Gallant Rush by Peter Burchand and Lay This Laurel by Lincoln Kirstein and the letters of Robert Gould Shaw, the film follows the youthful Colonel Shaw (Matthew Broderick) as he takes responsibility for readying these soldiers for battle.
This film is set in the rural American south during the depths of the Depression; two children watch as their principled father takes a stand against intolerance. Based on Harper Lee’s Pulitzer Prize winning book of 1960. Atticus Finch is a lawyer in a racially divided Alabama town in the 1930s. He agrees to defend a young black man who is accused of raping a white woman. Many of the townspeople try to get Atticus to pull out of the trial, but he decides to go ahead.
Enactment of the work of Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein who uncovered the dirty tricks campaign and the coverup of the White House’s involvement in the Watergate break in. The stories they wrote were very instrumental in the eventual resignation of President Richard Nixon. This is an engrossing mystery that reminds us why the founding fathers placed such great value on freedom of the press. Additionally, it illustrates how no one – not even the President, is above the law.
Rocky Balboa (a true American underdog) is a struggling boxer trying to make the big time. Working in a meat factory in Philadelphia for a pittance, he also earns extra cash as a debt collector. When heavyweight champion Apollo Creed visits Philadelphia, his managers want to set up an exhibition match between Creed and a struggling boxer, touting the fight as a chance for a “nobody” to become a “somebody”. The match is supposed to be easily won by Creed, but someone forgot to tell Rocky, who sees this as his only shot at the big time.
The Nazis, exasperated at the number of escapes from their prison camps by a relatively small number of Allied prisoners, relocates them to a high-security “escape-proof” camp to sit out the remainder of the war. Undaunted, the prisoners plan one of the most ambitious escape attempts of World War II. Based on a true story.
A musical portrait of composer/singer/dancer George M. Cohan. From his early days as a child-star in his family’s vaudeville show up to the time of his comeback at which he received a medal from the president for his special contributions to the US, this is the life- story of George M. Cohan, who produced, directed, wrote and starred in his own musical shows for which he composed his famous songs.
Following the Allied invasion of Normandy, two brothers lay dead in the wake of the onslaught. Meanwhile, in New Guinea, a third brother has been killed fighting the Japanese. After the Army General Staff learns that a fourth brother is missing in the French countryside, a rescue mission is ordered to find the young soldier and return him safely home. The mission is mounted by a veteran Ranger Captain commanding a squad of men who have mixed feelings about risking their lives to “Save Private Ryan”.
The story of General George S. Patton, Jr. during World War II. His battlefield genius garners him fear and respect from the Germans, and resentment and misunderstanding from the Allies. A military historian and poet, he believes he was a warrior in many past lives, and that he is destined for something great during this life, but his stubbornness and controversial methods nearly prevent the fulfillment of that destiny.
Naive and idealistic Jefferson Smith, leader of the Boy Rangers, is appointed on a lark by the spineless governor of his state. He is reunited with the state’s senior senator–presidential hopeful and childhood hero, Senator Joseph Paine. In Washington, however, Smith discovers many of the shortcomings of the political process as his earnest goal of a national boys’ camp leads to a conflict with the state political boss, Jim Taylor. Taylor first tries to corrupt Smith and then later attempts to destroy Smith through a scandal.
While not specifically patriotic, this film is loved by millions and it covers some of the most important modern historical events in US history. In the film, a man with a low IQ has accomplished great things in his life and been present during significant historic events – in each case, far exceeding what anyone imagined he could do. Yet, despite all the things he has attained, his one true love eludes him. “Forrest Gump” is the story of a man who rose above his challenges, and who proved that determination, courage, and love are more important than ability.
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Notable Extras: Apollo 13, Air Force One, Avalon, and many many more.
Some synopses courtesy of IMDB














July 4th, 2008 at 3:03 am
Another film list of movies I haven’t seen. Although I have seen Forrest Gump, that was an awesome movie!
Any reason eight out of 10 are pre-1980? Or is it coincidental?
July 4th, 2008 at 3:14 am
Tempyra: coincidental – though note that two mentioned in the omissions and two in the introduction are post 1980s too – I guess they just made blockbuster patriotic films better in the past.
July 4th, 2008 at 3:19 am
I’m really glad to see To Kill a Mockingbird here – amazing novel and movie!
Same with Forrest Gump, one of my favorite movies of all time.
July 4th, 2008 at 3:20 am
j.walk: To Kill a Mockingbird is one of my all time favorite novels! The film is great too.
July 4th, 2008 at 3:20 am
First film list in which I have seen more than 6 movies.
A great list but I dont actually understand why Independence Day and Patriot are not there.
July 4th, 2008 at 3:31 am
Three Kings, Born on the Fourth of July and Pearl Harbour are also nice patriotic movies. Can be added as Notable Omissions
July 4th, 2008 at 3:40 am
pankhudi: Independence day and The Patriot are not included because they are not anywhere near the calibre of the films which DID make it to the list – this is not just well known or popular films about patriotism – they have to have some artistic merit
July 4th, 2008 at 4:09 am
“Glory” – one of the finest movies ever made IMO – doesn’t make me feel patriotic, as i’m Irish, but i can see what it does for Americans
I have the movie poster framed on my wall – thats how much i love this movie.
I’m glad you didn’t include I.Day + The Patriot – Both awful movies IMO
July 4th, 2008 at 5:30 am
I hope all you Canadians have a great day today.
July 4th, 2008 at 5:44 am
Ok, everyone, Happy 4th of July. I’ll try to watch a few of these movies tonight.
July 4th, 2008 at 5:45 am
Jamie: I think there is a law in the US that says when you mention American patriotism you are obligated to mention John Wayne.
July 4th, 2008 at 6:08 am
I’m not a big fan of musicals BUT the movie “1776″ the story of the writing of the Declaration of Independence is pure patriotism. AND I agree The Patriot has to be on this list.
July 4th, 2008 at 6:23 am
Hey what about Sergent York?
July 4th, 2008 at 6:32 am
I don’t know, When I saw this list I thought “Dave” would be on there. It’s about a guy who’s drafted into being a body double for the president, when the president then suddenly dies so he takes command. At least, it’d been one of my favorite movies ever.
July 4th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Excellent List.
Saw them all except Rocky.
That clip of Gregory Peck is great.
islanderbst: You are correct about the law. (1) you saved LV by mentioning him and (2) Jamie is in NZ, so he is exempt
True about the lack of artistic merit of Gibson’s ‘The Patriot’
July 4th, 2008 at 6:43 am
Of course this is in the ‘Related List’ section:
http://listverse.com/humor/top-10-reasons-jfrater-doesnt-want-to-write-another-film-list/
It should be required reading before you post a comment
July 4th, 2008 at 6:50 am
Born on the 4th of July would have to be one of the least patriotic films for America.
I agree with everything on this list however. Another excellent list Jamie. I would say almost anything made before the 70’s in America could be classed as patriotic. Including films such as Twelve Angry Men, The Manchurian Candidate and It’s a Wonderful Life.
July 4th, 2008 at 6:55 am
Oh, sweet freedom! I love having the freedom to eat until I am miserable, and let the little pyromaniac in me out to play… and watching these movies while I do it will make the perfect 4th!!
July 4th, 2008 at 7:04 am
All the President’s Men is an excellent movie and book and I highly recommend it. I also think that Apollo 13 should have made it into the top 10.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:25 am
I loved Forrest Gump! I really get that sense of pride when I watch it.
I know you specifically left off Independence Day, but I have to say the speech that the president gives just before battle REALLY sends the pride vibrating through my veins! It may be quirky, it may be sci-fi, but that speech brings a tear to my eye everytime!
July 4th, 2008 at 7:39 am
LOL, I hadn’t seen the “Top 10 reasons JFrater doesn’t want to write another film list”! Thanks for noticing stevenh (I usually don’t pay attention to the related lists thingie)
July 4th, 2008 at 7:50 am
Is a mini-series a movie? The little figures on the screen do move, after all. I’m thinking about ADAMS, the HBO “movie.” I honestly find it a little difficult to feel very patriotic about my USA lately, but the story of John and Abigail Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, et. al., totally got to me.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:53 am
This is the first film list where I’ve seen each film! Excellent list, I just bought To Kill a Mockingbird on DVD a few days ago, I love it that much, and watching the last few scenes in Glory always gives me tingles!
July 4th, 2008 at 7:55 am
To Kill A Mockingbird & Forrest Gump… you are a man after my heart Jamie!
To Kill A Mockinbird is easily my favourite books and one of my favourite movies. Gregory Pecks portrayal of Atticus Finch is brilliant. He absolutely nailed the character. He fully deserved the Oscar that year.
Forrest Gump is another of my favourite movies. Everything is brilliant from the story to the soundtrack. I fully agree with you, and I believe that Forrest Gump is a perfect example of how following your path and giving your all is the best way to lead a good life.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:57 am
The HBO mini-series “Band of Brothers” is tops, I highly recommend it if one is interested in the stories of Easy Company of the 101st airborne during WII, it’s done very well.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:59 am
I would also add Miracle. The story of the 1980 USA Olympic Hockey team. If that movie doesn’t get you believing in America, nothing will.
July 4th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Thoroughly enjoyed this list! I love that the movies are about “the triumph of freedom” We should always try to remember that that IS what the USA stands for… Happy 4th Everyone!
July 4th, 2008 at 8:05 am
I am from the Scotland we dont even celebrate the 4th of July but i still loved this list! Mainly because i havnt seen a few of these movies, except Forrest Gump which in my view should have been number 1!
lol
July 4th, 2008 at 8:13 am
Great list. Though I didn’t expect it to be from Mr.Frater, especially when he didn’t write anything about the New Zeland national day( Feb.6th I believe?):-}
July 4th, 2008 at 8:21 am
I didn’t know there were any patriotic Kiwis out there. February 6th is Waitangi Day – there isn’t a ‘New Zealand Day’ as far as I know.
July 4th, 2008 at 8:30 am
im sorry but how does To Kill a Mockingbird constitute as a patriotic movie?
July 4th, 2008 at 8:34 am
B.Quinn: I believe it is because it is a stand for Freedom, Truth and Justice.
Why do you believe it is not?
July 4th, 2008 at 9:16 am
This a really nice list jfrater and nice of you to do.
From someone that is not from the states you still nailed most of my favorites.
B.Quinn, did you read the intro? I think if To Kill a Mockingbird was not listed it wouldn’t be a complete list.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:19 am
Boy, am I happy to see Patton there! Glory should be about 3 and Patton number 1 but still nice list!
Patton is among the best war movies in the world, ever made!
July 4th, 2008 at 9:23 am
This is a great list but I’m surprised you put the “fighting sullivans” and “Private Ryan” on it as they are about the same topic and yet you left off “1776″ and “John Adams”. Happy independance day everyone
July 4th, 2008 at 9:39 am
Great choices, though I’ve only seen 4/11 — the ones we watched in American History. I would have liked to see 1776 on there as it is a neat musical with catchy tunes, but I guess its not “best of the best.” Thirteen Days is also well done, and it represents the path to freedom from the USSR’s diplomatic cruelty which is not represented anywhere on the list. But I respect these choices regardless.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:43 am
I loved the Sullivans that was a great movie. When I was in high school I went on a field trip over Easter Break with ROTC. We went to Camp LeJeune (sp) in North Carolina, which is a marine base and the only thing they had on the base to do (that we could do legally) was go bowling or go to the movies and they were playing the sullivans in the theater there. I probably saw it four or five times that week we were down there.
Excellent movie for sure
July 4th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Great list Jamie.
Extra glad you included Glory, one of my favorite movies. (I have a fondness for Matthew Broderick)
Any that popped into mind that are not included on the list are covered in the notable omissions.
To satisfy the need for a John Wayne move, maybe we could include The Sands of Iwo Jima. A definite classic.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Nice list. Glad Pearl Harbor wasn’t on it because it’s such a terrible and historically laughable film. The historical travesties committed there would fill an entire issue of Time magazine.
For a much better presentation, see “Tora! Tora! Tora!” about Pearl Harbor and “Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo” about the Doolittle Raid, with Van Johnson as real-life Doolittle hero Ted Lawson.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:02 am
lol, rocky worked in a meat factory. does that mean he worked inside a cow?
July 4th, 2008 at 10:10 am
I am not American and many of these movies are before my time, but I am quite the fan of Saving Private Ryan. Being Canadian, there aren’t a whole lot of movies quite like any of these. Such a shame !
Happy 4th of July though !
July 4th, 2008 at 10:13 am
Sgt. York (1941-Gary Cooper) should have made the list. It tells the story of a religious pacifist who was sent to fight in WWI and became a hero–after finding the ‘happy medium’ between his pacifism and fighting honorably without losing sight of his personal beliefs.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:19 am
jfrater
Forest Gump a great movie but not a patriotic one. The same goes for Rockey.
“The Patriot” should be near the top of this list. (and you left it off completly”
It defiantly underlines the need and continued following of the 2nd amendment.
The creator of these lists always seems to show a leftest lean.
But it is your list.
I just never find myself agreeing with your lists dealing with the USA.
Come on you put America on the top of your list of most dangerous places. Give me a break.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:26 am
I would argue that the movie 300 should be included in this list. When I watched it, I found myself comparing much of it to the current US wars and the Bushisms that go with them. Although it is about Sparta, it seemed like the producers were giving quite a large nod to the USA.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:29 am
What, no Team America?!?
July 4th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Great list! Most of these movies I wouldn’t originally think as “patriotic” but you have some really good choices.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Ive seen 3 of the 11 movies given here. Though they are great!
July 4th, 2008 at 11:05 am
I have also seen 3 of these, but there are a lot of other ones out there.
July 4th, 2008 at 11:18 am
I was surprised by some of your picks this time. I loved the movie Glory. I should watch that one again even if it makes me cry.
July 4th, 2008 at 11:29 am
This would be an incredibly hard list for anyone to write; I think you did it justice, Jamie. Defining the criteria must have been difficult.
I do agree with “Dave”, however. Mr. Smith… is the quintessential patriotic movie, and Kevin Kline is the closest actor I’ve seen come to the unabashed innocence and patriotic fervor that Jimmy Stewart portrayed in his movies. I also liked An American President, but I think it would have made a top 20, but not a top 10.
July 4th, 2008 at 11:30 am
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July 4th, 2008 at 11:43 am
I was just thinking about this very topic this morning, wishing I’d called in to Mick LaSalle’s podcast (San Francisco Chronicle film reviewer http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/mlasalle/detail?blogid=38&entry_id=27659) to ask him which movies make him the proudest to be an American. TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD would have been my choice. Another good one is TO BE OR NOT TO BE, starring the great American patriot and actress Carole Lombard, who tragically died in a plane crash while raising war bonds to support our troops. Also THE GLENN MILLER STORY, for reasons just cited above.
Jamie is correct. It’s not so much that they made better patriotic movies in the old days, but rather that the Vietnam War radically altered our belief in the proper use of our military might.
To answer B.Quinn’s question, why is TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD considered patriotic, it is because, unlike a movie like YANKEE DOODLE DANDY, it doesn’t merely sing and shout about what a great nation we are, it demonstrates why.
Major props to Kittym for mentioning BAND OF BROTHERS. Although it’s not a movie per say, it fills me with a sense of pride and gratitude to be an American.
Thanks for the list Jamie!
July 4th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Great list, Patton and the Great Escape make me feel very patriotic. Now I’m gonna go watch some fire works.
July 4th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Umm, yeah I dont c how rocky n forrest gump are patriotic movies, but then again dats my opinion. Happy 4th of july to evry1!! ^_^
July 4th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
I c how forrest gump was a patriotic film but not rocky. Saving private ryan-beautiful =’( *sniffle*
July 4th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Extra props for a non-American making a great list, too!
If we’re examining mini-series, then I put my chip in for John Adams. It’s the grittier side of patriotism.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
I always spend Xmas abroad nowadays & perhaps the only thing I miss about the UK is veging out on the sofa & watching the traditional annual Boxing Day rerun of ‘The Great Escape’. The sequences featuring Steve McQueen on the motorbike are some of the most exhilarating in movie history. Love that movie.
‘Forrest Gump’, on the other hand, is dire. Hollywood at its most glib & sentimental.
In my opinion.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Too funny Jamie. We’ve got TomCruise.com in the top banner ad.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
What I really would’ve liked seeing on here was Band of Brothers. It’s amazing, though slightly long… Ten DVDs long, actually… I might go watch one right now, for that matter.
July 4th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Very nice list Jamie, you picked great movies for this category. As a notable omission I would pick United 93. I love that movie, it was very sad and very real.
Happy 232nd birthday USA
July 4th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
I’ve seen all of these…except for number 1, of course. Rocky is one of my personal favorite movies of all time. Fantastic list, and a happy fourth of july to everyone out there!
July 4th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
How about “Red Dawn”….. just kidding.
But seriously… I think a good one for this list would be “Field of Dreams”. It is a wonderful movie that portrays a really nice side of America… comparable to what “Amelie” does for France. A lot of movies don’t do that anymore.
July 4th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
SteveZio (43): I didn’t write the list you are referring to – so please check your facts before accusing me of things.
July 4th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
though its not a masterpiece of film, id say independence day was a good “cooky and cheaply entertaining” 4th of july film.
July 4th, 2008 at 4:07 pm
*WOW*
I’ve seen all these movies, and I believe all, except Rocky, deserve a place on the list. Most of the additional movies I would have suggested have already been put forward by others.
Oddly, perhaps, Gangs of New York, is one I’d add. Yes, it’s violent, and yes, it pits one group, the nativist American know-nothing party, against another, the Irish immigrants. What makes it into a patriotic movie, is that by the end, it becomes clear to all that strength is only available through unity, that division weakens the nation.
Yes. I know the lesson didn’t last, but the movie made the point, nonetheless.
Anyway, Jamie, great list! Fabulous, actually. Thank you. Happy 4th of July to all my countrymen…and apologies to the descendant’s of any Brits my ancestors might have shot-up in that little to-do.
July 4th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Oh yeah. Gangs of New York. I second that one.
July 4th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
The thing I liked best about Gangs of New York was Daniel Day Lewis. To me it was more about corruption and revenge. However, I understand your opinion about unity and division. It makes sense.
Rocky 4 was definitely patriotic
July 4th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
So I never thought of To Kill a Mockingbird as patriotic, but I guess it fits really well! Interesting list, I may rent one or two of them just because they look interesting!
July 4th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
TO Kill a Mockingbird is great althouhg the book is a lot better. I don’t get the point of Rocky being there. Glory is also really good. I thought Independence Day would be there. Oh well. Great list.
July 4th, 2008 at 5:59 pm
jfrater
Jfrater sorry for my mistake. I thought this was your site. If I am wrong I am sorry. If I am not wrong you are responsible for the lists on this site if you wrote them or not.
-S
July 4th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Steve, don’t be such a whiner, it’s very unamerican, at least it used to be, before George Bush became president.
July 4th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Tsk tsk…no mention of the great “Battleship Potemkin”?
July 4th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
SteveZio, who *are* you? Where did you come from? Don’t you have some homework to do?
July 4th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
July 5 already in Korea. Let’s celebrate the independence days of Venezuela, Algeria and Cape Verde.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
SteveZio said,
“Forest Gump a great movie but not a patriotic one. The same goes for Rockey.
“The Patriot” should be near the top of this list. (and you left it off completly”
It defiantly underlines the need and continued following of the 2nd amendment.
The creator of these lists always seems to show a leftest lean.
But it is your list.
I just never find myself agreeing with your lists dealing with the USA.
Come on you put America on the top of your list of most dangerous places. Give me a break.”
You obviously did not read the intro. The movies on this list aren’t here neceassarily because of blatant patriotism, but because of the themes they portray. Honor, dignity, bravery, tolerance (something we need more of), justice, freedom, and whatnot. Films with those themes are far more patriotic than any movie that blathers on about America’s greatness will ignoring its faults that make it full..
Anyone can shoot a movie where a man shots “bad guys” and waves an American flag around while ignoring historical accuracy. The Patriot isn’t on here because it is simply not accurate in the least bit. Its Braveheart set in America, which means it sacfrices what really happened in the name of making the movie more exciting.
Though interestingly, its directed by a German who is proudly gay and left-wing (which surprised me and I have a new-found respect for a man whose movies I don’t like). So, I find it funny to be complaing of left-wing slant because the list didn’t include one movie directed by a person who is left-wing. Plus, the Patriot doesn’t prove why the second amendment is far more important than other, better qualities. I believe it was necessary the time it was written, but times have changed. I wish it could be more specific nowadays.
Before you slew allegations, lets just get this out of the way. Yes, I am left-wing and No, I do not hate my home country. I believe that America is flawed, but so is everything in life. I believe that its flaws do not make it evil or wrongful. No, its flaws is what makes it real and tangible. Its what makes America fixable. When we take into account its flaws, we can better address them. Waving a flag and shouting “America Kicks Ass!” isn’t going to fix our exploding budget deficeit nor is it going to finally pass the Equal Rights Amendment (including the gay marriage add-on). Looking back and realizing that America has had several flaws past and present shows how far we have come and how much farther we can go.
P.S. Surprisingly excellent and non-tradiional list, Jamie. Especially from a “foreigner”
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P.S.S. Please excuse me for slaying English grammar, if I did.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
SteveZio, I did not see your apology until after I submitted my, um, you know, rant. However, you were apologizing for an admittidly easy to make mistake (one that anyone could have made). Its pretty assume that the misleading list (and honestly poorly done in its fact chainging) about the most dangerous places in the world was written by Jamie. So I respect you for your apology. However, I did not touch on that, thus my opinion still stands.
I must apologize myself though, if I came of as angry. It can seem that way sometimes. I have nothing against you. Your words just sparked that in me and the words flowed (which means I didn’t check my grammar).
So, again, I respect you, but my opinion still stands.
Oh and by the way. I’m still working on a bunch of political lists. Traveling (and more, as I leave tomorrow for Colorado) and procrastination has made it difficult to finish them as I want them to be as accurate as possible. Quality of Quantity.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
*Quality over Quantity. Bleh, I shouldn’t type after drving for several hours. No more posting for me until some else goes. Sorry.
July 4th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
D Holmes: well said
July 4th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
SteveZio, don’t be a prick. I live in LA, where there are areas I as a white male am afraid to go.
We have more prisoners per capita than anywhere else in the world, and no way to punish them–Send them to jail, where they get 3 square and a roof over their head. It ain’t the hilton, but it’s dependable. And sometimes it’s better than your regular living situation — Last year a septuagenarian around here robbed 2 banks just so he would go to jail, because his house was forclosed upon.
And also, jfrater can’t be held responsible for someone else’s point of view. Hell, the DMCA, one of the most atrocious laws in our country’s history, guarantees him that right. Even if his posting it shows tacit acceptance of the viewpoint, the first amendment gives him the right to say whatever he wants.
And I for one was interested that people from other countries believe that the US is that dangerous — Maybe it should tell you something about your Faux News Channel. If people only watched that, the only thing they’d know about are kidnappings, rapes, murders and whatever celebrity is diddling whatever. Instead of trying to censor, why not try to enlighten?
And getting back on track to the list, I appreciate this list for what it was, agree gangs of new york is missing, and I don’t think that Rocky is all that patriotic to be honest.
To Hell and Back is another good one in my opinion. And I’m not sure I could count The Great Escape, as most of the people it was based on were from various European Nations.
July 4th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
very good list, Glory is amazing!! cheers!!
July 4th, 2008 at 8:02 pm
Love it! Some additional movies that get my American blood going:
Red Dawn (Wolverines!…’nuff said)
The Hunt for Red October(probably not on everyone’s list, but still good to see (the definitive) Jack Ryan kick some commie arse)
Miracle (almost makes me like hockey)
The Godfather (while it’s not a patriotic movie by many standards, it makes me proud that we came up with such a kick-ass movie)
July 4th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
well the Patriot has to be on the list because of the name alone haha
July 4th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
How could you happen to leave out “Team America,”
possibly the best and most American movie ever made?
Just kidding… great list.
July 4th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Why does no one ever mention Canada Day (July 1st)
July 4th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
I was so happy when I saw “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”. That is a great movie indeed.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
I have always been wary of patriotic films, because they can so easily fall over the line into propaganda (not accusing any of the above of doing that). I have only seen two of this films, and those a long time ago. I have seen parts of others, and was generally aware of all but “The Sullivans”. Intriguingly, that was the name of a period drama series in Australia in the 1970s-1980s.
I initially didn’t see Team America because I didn’t realise it was satire.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
oh what a great list! i love forrest gump’s cinematography and main musical theme!
July 4th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
oh and i’ll never forget watching “mr. smith goes to washinton” in 7th grade to learn about the congress hahaha
July 4th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
SteveZio: yes it is my site – but I do not restrict people’s views as you would clearly have me do – I allow people to say what they want and I publish lists from time to time which I do not agree with. Considering some lists here have a religious bias and some don’t – it clearly shows I am happy to show both sides of a story – either that or I must be schizophrenic. By your reasoning, CNN news must be anti-black whenever they show an article about the KKK – your reasoning is fundamentally flawed.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Oh – and SteveZio – I neglected to address your initial comment about my apparent “leftist” lean. I am a member of a right-leaning political party in my country – the fact that you call me leftist shows that you are either on the extreme right of right, or you are not a good judge of character
July 4th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
D Holmes: Thanks for your comments – you are clearly a brilliant man
July 4th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
Jamie, who would have known you’re a “righty”
July 4th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
#26 stugy I loved “Miracle” I have real footage of the actual event, and when America wins? The sound of the spectators cannot be replicated. It is singularly the loudest fan-generated sound ever. It gives me goosebumps, and tears to my eyes every time I watch it. Look for the real footage. It will be well worth your effort. Promise
#60 MPW About “United 93″ I cannot watch this movie. It falls along the same lines as not being able to read “Night” by Elie Wiesel. I have picked it up 50+ times, but I cannot make it past the Forward.
I thought this was a great list. Very comprehensive.
Happy Independence Day to all. I feel lucky and grateful to live here.
July 4th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
MPW: I don’t really consider myself a “rightie” – the party I belong to is more a classical liberalism party – but in this country our left is so left as to be socialist – so anything right of socialism is “right” here
July 4th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Jfrater, I was kidding, I’m sure you know that. I am moderate myself, with a slight lean to the left:)
Vera Lynn, I read that book in HS, truly saddening. As for United 93, the whole time I was watching it I had a look on my face as though I was witnessing that event live. I’ll never forget it
July 4th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
MPW How did you get through it? One of the hardest movies I saw (and this is gonna sound dumb) was “Alive” about that soccer team that crashed in the Andes. Within the first 15 min, my friend and I were in tears, holding hands for support. Truly harrowing. (Hi, BTW)
July 4th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Vera Lynn, as you probably know I’m emotionally strong but I did almost shed a tear watching united 93. It’s hard for me to cry. As for “Alive”, I don’t know.
July 4th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
It was a rugby team, not a soccer team, and I’ve seen it, too, and it is emotional. Did you know the twist in the middle before you saw the movie?
July 4th, 2008 at 10:54 pm
#84 July 1st was also The List Universe’s Birthday. If you look at the lists from that day they were all about The List Universe. I believe a few people in the comments mentioned Happy Canada Day. Could you please tell me some Patriotic Canada movies?
July 4th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
It is interesting to see this list barely hit 100 comments even with a competition. I guess a lot of the readers here are American and were out celebrating or watching fireworks perhaps. Or maybe because they only get on from work and there was no work today and I believe in Australia it was a holiday too.
July 4th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Vera Lynn, sorry i misread the part of your comment about “Alive”. i should have said that I haven’t seen it.
July 4th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
I love glory.
July 4th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
From “Love Story” “Love means never having to say you’re sorry”
#98 Astraya I had heard. Another thing to “see” The absolute need to survive? The primal need to live at the expense of others? Makes one think what one would do in such a situation. When does desperate overcome loyalty? How hungry must one be to eat human flesh
instead of die. The implications are enormous.
July 4th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
Another patriotic movie about 9/11 is World Trade Center. It was also very saddening but on a movie level wasn’t as good as United 93.
July 4th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Vera Lynn: My rough guess is that almost everyone would eat rather than die, the survival impulse being so strong. I would, but may it not ever happen.
July 5th, 2008 at 12:06 am
I kind of want to see The Sullivans now, especially if it’s what Saving Private Ryan is based on, because I really like that movie!
July 5th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Interesting list. I’ve only seen 2 of these, though I know more than a few are considered classics. The 2 I have seen I have no intention of seeing again. Saving Private Ryan was too traumatic, and Rocky was….well, Rocky. I would like to see The Sullivans though.
JwJw, no holiday for us today. Normal working day for us Aussies.
July 5th, 2008 at 1:18 am
Great list, most of the movies I’ve seen and liked. And while some of the movies might lack in literal patriotism, they all have the attributes related to patriotism.
July 5th, 2008 at 7:40 am
No 1776? That’s a pretty good patriotic movie right there. It makes light of some of the serious issues surrounding the Founding Fathers but still has the American spirit and all that.
July 5th, 2008 at 8:11 am
I’m so happy to see my favorite movie at number one. It’s so overlooked by so many people.
Great list!
July 5th, 2008 at 11:10 am
great list, I’m surprised by how many of these movies i’ve actually seen
July 5th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Awesome list. The Sullivans always makes me think of a song by Caroline’s Spine based on the family entitled “Mrs. Sullivan”
But I’m with a few other people that have commented…I don’t think of Rocky as a terribly patriotic movie.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Great list. I’ve seen a few of these movies but definitely need to check out some of the others. Hopefully my life will calm down a little and I’ll have more movie time soon.
July 5th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
thanks for enlighting me
July 5th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
Competition Winner: pankhudi – comment number 6! Congratulations! Please email me (jamie@frater.com) with your address and name details for your prize.
July 5th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
This whole “left” and “right” bullcrap just makes me sick it only divides and there is no need for it.
I also think Black Hawk Down should have been included, but that’s me.
July 5th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
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116. B.Quinn
I also think Black Hawk Down should have been included
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I met the pilot involved in that incident. He absolutely denied any heroism on his part, which only strengthened my belief that he was exactly what true heroism, true patriotism, is all about.
Great guy. It was an honor to meet him.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
I’m wondering if it’s because you’re not an American that you missed “Born on the 4th of July” – Right wingers froth at the mouth because this movie portrays the US in a less than flattering light, but at its heart it is about a Patriotic American who has to fight his way through his disillusionment with some of his countries actions, in order to grow up and understand what a powerful nation this country can be when it listens to those who appreciate the country for what it is, flawed yet great. Generations of American veterans have gone off to war, only to come home to find that the country that they so cavalierly went off to defend isn’t the nation that they see now that their eyes have been opened. The best of them strive to change the country in a positive way, so that it comes to more closely resemble the nation that they love.
July 5th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Jongluer, well said! BORN ON THE 4TH of JULY should be on the list, at the top.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:23 pm
I think Rescue Dawn should also be included in the list. It was an awesome movie and shows a lot of american charecteristics in it.
July 6th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
Charlie Wilson’s War was fairly good, too. Funny how it was positive all the way through until it showed how America is not-so-great at the ending part (nor at the start part, but we seem to be good at doing the middle just fine.)
July 7th, 2008 at 1:38 am
Thank you, JFrater, I am so happy to win it. Will mail you about my details in a while.
Yipppeee…….
July 7th, 2008 at 4:41 am
I’d suggest ‘Flags of Our Fathers’ as a distinct contender, dealing as it does with a significant patriotic image and the reality behind it.
July 7th, 2008 at 5:40 am
Good list, I am a little wary of Forrest Gump, although I love the movie. I can think of dozens of lists it should be on, just not completely convinced it should be here.
July 7th, 2008 at 9:45 am
I love Forrest Gump movie among all the mentioned ones I dunno y….
July 7th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Patriotic
Pa`tri*ot”ic\, a. [Cf. F. patriotique, Gr. ? belonging to a fellow-countryman.] Inspired by patriotism; actuated by love of one’s country; zealously and unselfishly devoted to the service of one’s country; as, a patriotic statesman, vigilance. Webster’s Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
The Sullivans – yes, and based on a true story of true patriotism
Yankee Doodle Dandy – yes, Cohan and J.P.Sousa – two of the greatest Patriotic composers in US history
Patton – yes, he would be apalled at the death of the warrior
tradition of American military being brought about today
the rest – maybes – some are great movies, but don’t really represent patrotism
Glory – ???
All The President’s Men – you must be joking!
July 7th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
J- I love your website. I completely agree with your decision to pick movies that show the dark side as well as the light side of patriotism. Being patriotic does not necessarily entail agreeing with everything your government has done, but continuing to hope for a better life for all citizens and never giving up. Too many people don’t pay attention and give up hope… it is sad.
July 7th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I agree with jules, I think that movies, books, or any other media shouldn’t be judged for the light that they cast on America (or any country), as long as they are historically accurate. Recently there was an outrage in Berlin about a wax figure of Hitler, as many Germans do not want to remember their past. But Hitler was an enormous part of their history, no matter which way you look at it. America has made some blunders, and it is silly to dismiss them: history repeats itself if you don’t pay attention. But it is also important to be proud of the things in which America has succeeded. We are still a prominent laisez-faire country (though that is rapidly spiraling down as government interference increases) and we have the peoples’ best interest at heart. Liberals and Conservatives are divided, but not as much as one would think: we all have the same goals, just different methods of getting there. We are more united than we think.
July 8th, 2008 at 6:24 am
a movie i haven’t seen mentioned, which i think celebrates the ideals of this list is “the sandlot”. while not overtly patriotic, although there is a 4th of July scene that i think is wonderful, it is about the american spirit. overcoming your fears to succeed at what you love in the midst of internal (being bad at baseball) and external (a big friggin dog) problematic factors.
go smalls!
July 8th, 2008 at 11:29 am
What about the ultimate “Here comes America to save the day” Movie. Independace Day. “One of my favorite parts is “There getting a signal, old morse code. It’s the Americans they want to organise a counter offensive!” “It’s about bloody time!”
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
My father absolutely loves to watch “Yankee Doodle Dandy” every 4th of July. The movie is incredibly corny by modern standards, but it has a lot of great humor, and there’s no doubt that it’s very patriotic.
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:49 pm
131. trfan: I loved “Yankee Doodle Dandy” as a kid, and would watch it on the Million Dollar Movie. I remember the great dance work of James Cagney, who had a way of walking with his chest stuck out and his head held high, he just always made me feel good about being an American.
I remember the songs from that movie, “Give my regards to Broadway”, “Yankee Doodle Dandy”, “Grand Old Flag”, “Harrigan”, “45 minutes to Broadway” and so many more.
A wonderful movie.
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm
I know I always sing along to “Over There”, it’s a rousing moment.
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Yep. Me too.
April 10th, 2009 at 1:36 am
The patriot isn’t on this list. What’s wrong with that film? Its no masterpeice that can be said, however its subject matter is dead on for this list. Other then that, good list.
September 30th, 2009 at 1:03 am
What, no “1776?!” That movie’s …incredible!
October 13th, 2009 at 5:02 am
Hey, where’s ‘The Deer Hunter’?