Subscribe to Listverse
This list comprises the most famous unsolved mysteries known to man that really defy rational explanation or are just outright strange.
1. Shroud of Turin [Wikipedia]
The shroud of Turin is a linen cloth bearing the image of a man who had apparently died of crucifixion. Most Catholics consider it to be the burial shroud of Jesus Christ. It is currently held in the Cathedral of St John the Baptist in Turin, Italy. Despite many scientific investigations, no one has yet been able to explain how the image has been imprinted on the shroud and despite many attempts, no one has managed to replicate it. Radiocarbon tests date it to the middle ages, however apologists for the shroud believe it is incorrupt – and carbon dating can only date things which decay.
Prior to the middle ages, reports of the shroud exist as the Image of Edessa – reliably reported since at least the 4th century. In addition, another cloth (the Sudarium) known even from biblical times (John 20:7) exists which is said to have covered Christ’s head in the tomb. A 1999 study by Mark Guscin, a member of the multidisciplinary investigation team of the Spanish Center for Sindonology, investigated the relationship between the two cloths. Based on history, forensic pathology, blood chemistry (the Sudarium also is reported to have type AB blood stains), and stain patterns, he concluded that the two cloths covered the same head at two distinct, but close moments of time. Avinoam Danin (a researcher at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem) concurred with this analysis, adding that the pollen grains in the Sudarium match those of the shroud.
2. Mary Celeste [Wikipedia]
Mary Celeste was launched in Nova Scotia in 1860. Her original name was “Amazon”. She was 103 ft overall displacing 280 tons and listed as a half-brig. Over the next 10 years she was involved in several accidents at sea and passed through a number of owners. Eventually she turned up at a New York salvage auction where she was purchased for $3,000. After extensive repairs she was put under American registry and renamed “Mary Celeste”.
The new captain of Mary Celeste was Benjamin Briggs, 37, a master with three previous commands. On November 7, 1872 the ship departed New York with Captain Briggs, his wife, young daughter and a crew of eight. The ship was loaded with 1700 barrels of raw American alcohol bound for Genoa, Italy. The captain, his family and crew were never seen again. The ship was found floating in the middle of the Strait of Gibraltar. There were no signs of struggle on board and all documents except the captain’s log were missing.
In early 1873, it was reported that two lifeboats grounded in Spain, one with a body and an American flag, the other containing five bodies. It has been alleged that these could have been the remains of the crew of the Mary Celeste. However, the bodies were apparently never identified.
3. The taos hum [Wikipedia]
The ‘Taos Hum’ is a low-pitched sound heard in numerous places worldwide, especially in the USA, UK, and northern europe. It is usually heard only in quiet environments, and is often described as sounding like a distant diesel engine. Since it has proven indetectable by microphones or VLF antennae, its source and nature is still a mystery.
In 1997 Congress directed scientists and observers from some of the most prestigious research institutes in the nation to look into a strange low frequency noise heard by residents in and around the small town of Taos, New Mexico. For years those who had heard the noise, often described by them as a “hum”, had been looking for answers. To this day no one knows the cause of the hum.
4. Black Dahlia [Wikipedia]
In 1947 the body of 22 year old Elizabeth Short was found in two pieces in a parking lot in Los Angeles. According to newspaper reports shortly after the murder, Short received the nickname “Black Dahlia” at a Long Beach drugstore in the summer of 1946, as a play on the then-current movie The Blue Dahlia. However, Los Angeles County district attorney investigators’ reports state the nickname was invented by newspaper reporters covering the murder. In either case, Short was not generally known as the “Black Dahlia” during her lifetime.
Many rumours and tales have spread about the Black Dahlia, and the investigation (one of the largest in LA history) never found the killer.
5. Comte de Saint Germain [Wikipedia]
The Count of St. Germain (allegedly died February 27, 1784) was a courtier, adventurer, inventor, amateur scientist, violinist, amateur composer, and a mysterious gentleman; he also displayed some skills with the practice of alchemy. He was known as ‘Der Wundermann’ — ‘The Wonderman’. He was a man whose origin was unknown and who disappeared without leaving a trace.
Since his death, various occult organizations have adopted him as a model figure or even as a powerful deity. In recent years several people have claimed to be the Count of St. Germain. (Note that St Germain was never regarded as a saint by the Roman Catholic Church – the “st.” before his name refers to his alleged home).
6. Voynich manuscript [Wikipedia]
The Voynich Manuscript is a medieval document written in an unknown script and in an unknown language. For over one hundred years people have tried to break the code to not avail. The overall impression given by the surviving leaves of the manuscript suggests that it was meant to serve as a pharmacopoeia or to address topics in medieval or early modern medicine. However, the puzzling details of illustrations have fueled many theories about the book’s origins, the contents of its text, and the purpose for which it was intended.
The document contains illustrations that suggest the book is in six parts: Herbal, Astronomical, Biological, Cosmological, Pharmaceutical, and recipes.
7. Jack the Ripper [Wikipedia]
In the later half of 1888, London was terrorrised by a series of murders in the east end (largely in the Whitechapel area). The name Jack the Ripper was taken from a letter sent to a newspaper at the time by someone claiming to be the killer. The victims were typically prostitutes who had their throats cut and bodies mutilated. In some cases the bodies were discovered just minutes after the ripper had left the scene.
The police at the time had many suspects but could never find sufficient evidence to convict anyone. In modern times there has even been some speculation that Prince Albert Victor was the murderer. Even with modern police methods, no further light has been shed on the murders in recent times. To this day no one knows who the ripper was.
8. Bermuda Triangle [Wikipedia]
The Bermuda triangle is an area of water in the North Atlantic Ocean in which a large number of planes and boats have gone missing in mysterious circumstances. Over the years many explanations have been put forward for the disappearances, including bad weather, alien abductions, time warps, and suspension of the laws of physics.
Although substantial documentation exists to show that many of the reports have been exaggerated, there is still no explanation for the unusually large number of disappearances in the area.
9. The Zodiac Killer [Wikipedia]
The Zodiac killer was active in Northern California for ten months in the late 1960s. He killed at least five people, and injured two. He comitted the first two murders with a pistol, just inside the Benecia border. In his second shooting in Vallejo, he attempted to kill two people, but one survived despite gunshots to the head and neck. 40 minutes later the police recieved an anonymous phone call from a man claiming to be their killer and admitting to the murders of the previous two victims. One month three letters were sent to Newspapers in California containing a cypher that the killer claimed would give them his name. They cypher was decrypted to read:
“I LIKE KILLING PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH FUN IT IS MORE FUN THAN KILLING WILD GAME IN THE FORREST BECAUSE MAN IS THE MOST DANGEROUE ANAMAL OF ALL TO KILL SOMETHING GIVES ME THE MOST THRILLING EXPERENCE IT IS EVEN BETTER THAN GETTING YOUR ROCKS OFF WITH A GIRL THE BEST PART OF IT IS THAE WHEN I DIE I WILL BE REBORN IN PARADICE AND THEI HAVE KILLED WILL BECOME MY SLAVES I WILL NOT GIVE YOU MY NAME BECAUSE YOU WILL TRY TO SLOI DOWN OR ATOP MY COLLECTIOG OF SLAVES FOR MY AFTERLIFE EBEORIETEMETHHPITI” The last eighteen letters have not been decrypted.
While Arthur Leigh Allen was the prime suspect, all of the evidence was against him being the killer. To this day the Zodiac murders have not been solved.
10. The Babushka Lady [Wikipedia]
During the analysis of the film footage of the assasination of John F. Kennedy in 1963, a mysterious woman was spotted. She was wearing a brown overcoat and a scarf on her head (the scarf is the reason for her name as she wore it in a similar style to Russian grandmothers – also called babushkas). The woman appeared to be holding something in front of her face which is believed to be a camera. She appears in many photos of the scene. Even after the shooting when most people had fled the area, she remained in place and continued to film. Shortly after she is seen moving away to the East up Elm Street. The FBI publically requested that the woman come forward and give them the footage she shot but she never did.
In 1970 a woman called Beverly Oliver came forward and claimed to be the Babushka Woman, though her story contains many inconsistencies. She is generally regarded as a fraud. To this day, no one knows who the Babushka Woman is or what she was doing there. More unusual is her refusal to come forward to offer her evidence.
Due to popular demand I have written another similar article: Another 10 Unsolved Mysteries.
Technorati Tags: Bizarre, mystery, Top 10 list, Unsolved, Weird
July 20th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
In french, the spelling of “count” is comte.
July 21st, 2007 at 12:01 pm
About the Bermuda’s Triangle:
The marine insurer Lloyd’s of London has determined the Triangle to be no more dangerous than any other area of ocean, and does not charge unusual rates for passage through the region. United States Coast Guard records confirm their conclusion. In fact, the number of supposed disappearances is relatively insignificant considering the number of ships and aircraft which pass through on a regular basis.
The Coast Guard is also officially skeptical of the Triangle, noting that they collect and publish, through their inquiries, much documentation contradicting many of the incidents written about by the Triangle authors. In one such incident involving the 1972 explosion and sinking of the tanker V.A. Fogg in the Gulf of Mexico, the Coast Guard photographed the wreck and recovered several bodies [8] despite one Triangle author stating that all the bodies had vanished, with the exception of the captain, who was found sitting in his cabin at his desk, clutching a coffee cup (Limbo of the Lost by John Wallace Spencer, 1973 edition).
Skeptical researchers, such as Ernest Taves and Barry Singer, have noted how mysteries and the paranormal are very popular and profitable. This has led to the production of vast amounts of material on topics such as the Bermuda Triangle. They were able to show that some of the pro-paranormal material is often misleading or not accurate, but its producers continue to market it. They have therefore claimed that the market is biased in favour of books, TV specials, etc. which support the Triangle mystery and against well-researched material if it espouses a skeptical viewpoint.
July 21st, 2007 at 1:47 pm
Mugen: Thanks for that information – it is very interesting and my own personal view on these types of things is one of skepticism.
pedro: Thanks – I will correct that
July 22nd, 2007 at 1:52 am
really nice post
great
i knew about most of them, cause i love these, but the “new” ones are really thrilling
(sorry 4 my english)
July 22nd, 2007 at 5:24 am
Thanks profesormarciano
July 22nd, 2007 at 6:13 pm
The shroud of Turin is a fake. It has been dated and found to be only about 600 yrs old ( or so). the crucifixion marks are in the wrong place. They should be in the wrists not the hands. Your hands would not be able to hold your weight. The only interesting thing about it is how it was faked. Some researchers have linked it to DaVinchi and may have been made using early photographic like chemicals. As far as the so called Bermuda Triangle goes, ships sink, planes crash,get over it. When freight trains in Minnesota disappear then you have something.
July 22nd, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Tod: the Shroud has not been proven fake – it is generally accepted that the part of the cloth tested was from repairs made in the middle ages. No one knows exactly the method used for crucifixion so we can’t say the marks are in the wrong place. Also, regardless of the connections made with Da Vinci etc. no one (not even modern science) has been able to make a replica of the Shroud. In addition, the scientific evidence from the Sudarium matches it to the Shroud (pollens etc.) and the Sudarium is known from at LEAST 600AD (though it is also mentioned in the Gospel of John). They are even made from the same cloth.
As far the triangle, even science says the amount of planes and ships to go down are well above the average. Maybe if the freight train from minnesota rode through the Bermuda triangle it would vanish?
July 22nd, 2007 at 10:40 pm
About The Shroud of TURIN: The crucifixion marks are NOT in the hands, they´re in the wrists. Show me any image, please, where those marks are shown in the hands. Every image I’ve seen show the crucifixion marks right in the wrists.
This is, in fact, one of the multiple mysteries about Turin’s Shroud, cause every (or most) painting about Jesus crucifixion clearly show the nailings in the hands, not in the wrists.
must say that tod is right: “the hands wouldn’t be able to hold your weight”.
July 23rd, 2007 at 7:13 am
The depictions of Christ’s crucifixion which show nails through the hand are probably due to the biblical reference in the Gospel of John which says Christ was crucified through the hands; however the Greek text word for hands (χείρ) had a larger use than our word hand and refers to any part of the forearm to (and including) the hand.
There is a very large crucifix at the London Oratory which shows the nail going through the wrists and not the hands.
July 23rd, 2007 at 8:52 pm
The Shroud of Turin is an obvious fake. There was no historical Jesus.
July 23rd, 2007 at 9:17 pm
Updoc: wow – thanks for that – fancy us all being tricked by the historians for the last 2000 years! You offer such strong proof that we have no choice but to rewrite all the history books. Where were all the smart people like you when they were writing all the lies?
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Shroud of Turin is a fake from the 1500’s. It’s been dated fairly accurately. It’s been reproduced with techniques available at the time. The explanation for a fake shroud are better than the “inexplicable” image from the face of Jesus itself.
Of course that does not prevent people from believing it’s legitimate. Like they believe the bible is the word of God (when clearly it is man made) or that the earth is 6000 years old.
It is in human nature to want to convince others of their own convictions, nobody holds opinions knowing those are false. But ever since I’ve been told Santa Claus was not real I take any extraordinary claim with a good dose of doubt.
July 24th, 2007 at 7:10 am
Does no one do any research here? Solo: no one has been able to replicate the shroud – if you think they have, can you past a link to the evidence? It is also now generally accepted by scientists that the part of the shroud tested was from one of the repairs which we know happened after it was damaged in the middle ages. No one has, as yet, carbon tested a piece of the original linen. You are all welcome to comment but at least try to give some validation to your views
Also, if you read the Wikipedia article, you will see that no one actually knows how the image is composed – you can’t replicate something if you don’t know how it is made.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
“no one actually knows how the image is composed”
I think it’s been a while we mastered “paint on fabric”.
“part of the shroud tested was from one of the repairs which we know happened after it was damaged in the middle ages.”
How convenient and coincidental.
I’ll let you believe what you want to believe. It’s fine with me. I’m not here to challenge your faith, even though you seem pretty eager to defend it. Like I said, Santa Claus.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Monkeys throw their shit!!
July 24th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
All this debate about christ and religion bah ! What about the crazy sound in Taos !? Why can we not record it or figure it out ? Im thinking magnatisim ?
July 24th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
They solved the black dahlia becuase they had a big special about this guy heres the link http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/05/10/black.dahlia.ap/
July 24th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Shroud of Turn is a fake. Shroud shows a black man and everbody nos Jesus was a chink.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
i think if it was paint on that piece of cloth they would have detected that you idiot.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
I am amazed at how quick people will cling to an idea if it appeals to them or their beliefs… Do just a little research (that means read more than 1 article) and then view what you believe is fact or fiction. For those of you that are ATHEIST, we all pray for you… But check this out, at the end of my Life I have something to look forward to… You guys have nothing… Correct me if I am wrong… Your lives must be so overwhelming to have to deal with all of us Christians. GOD BLESS YOU! (if he so chooses)
July 24th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
In regard to the comment of “how convient and coincidental.” It’s called FAITH.
July 24th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
It has been proven that it is possible to crucify someone with the nails through they’re hands.. you only need a small pedestal for the person to rest theyre legs and/or for them to be attached by the waist and voila!
July 24th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Solo – I am not going to debate the issue in comments here
Just at least read the article (which you obviously haven’t done) because it states clearly that the scientists do not know how the image was made – it is not paint.
Mike: thanks for that link – I will check it out.
Isodora: it happens in the UK as well – there are a few spots in the world where people hear it – very weird!
Rufus – dictionary.com?
July 24th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
hey, how come no mention of croatoan? to the best of my knowledge thats a mystery that hasn’t been solved as well. oh well no biggy. oh, and they know who jack the ripper was. if you’ve seen from hell you would know it was bilbo baggins. j/k man. great article.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
jfrater some of these people are just from ebaumsworld.com trying to ruin the comments.
Any time you see them, if you can just delete them.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:23 pm
About Jack the Ripper, i read a book that was written by a forensic scientist/author and who all her research points to – but she’s been criticized for all of it. the book is portrait of a killer by patricia cornwell. it’s not necessarily true, but her research is pretty intense.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
There was a programme on british tv, think it was bbc or itv cant remember for sure, that gave an explanation for the mary celeste. it showed that leaking alcohol vapour from the cargo caught fire in the hold blowing off the hatches and forcing the crew to abandon the ship as they thought it was going to burn and sink. But the temperature of the fire was not hot enough to set the wood on fire, or even to do any visible damage to it. They showed several experiments to prove this as well. This would explain the crew disappearing into the life boats mentioned in the story above and also why there appeared to be no sign of damage or struggle on the ship. Ill have a look to see if i can find a link to the programme and post it if i find it.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/inthenews/itn060522
Its not quite a link to the programme itself but tells you a little about what the programme showed.
July 24th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
OK, the shroud, even if it isnt a fake, was confirmed made 600 yrs ago, christ died 2000. anyone here actually pass math? come on now. As for the bermuda triangle, scientist theorize that large deposits of methane bubbles under the ground at the sea floor, get released and when they surface, they are sometimes strong enough to pull a ship under, even upset airflow enough to cause turbulance. its a theory, it isnt the one i agree with, but its a theory
July 24th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
Actually, there was a historical Jesus Christ. Son of god? nah. A teacher similar to buddha? Probably.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Sigma: it was not confirmed – the piece of fabric tested came from one of the patches visible around the shroud – carbon dating has not been performed on the original sections of cloth and the Church is currently not allowing any sections to be cut as it would be considered a sacrilege.
Daniel: great – thanks for that
July 24th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
krunkisdead: thanks for mentioning that – I hadn’t heard of it before you mentioned it – I am definitely going to do some reading on the tribe – it sounds very interesting.
Sam: thanks for the headsup
July 24th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
What about the mysterious Marfa lights? In Marfa Texas?
July 24th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
dogmatic static: I hadn’t heard of those either – thanks. I am going to have to put together a users choice top 10 of extra bizarre things!
July 24th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Loki- It’s called faith? You know what faith is, don’t you? Faith is the abandonment of logic. Faith is giving up on trying to actually figure out something real and instead going with what a bunch of other idiots say. For thousands of years people praised gods like Amun-Ra and Zeus. Where was your god then? You claim that the god who created the universe just decided he would lay low for a while? So all those people must be in hell now, right? Use your brain for a minute and actually think about your religion. IT MAKES NO SENSE.
July 24th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Boy – we sure opened a can of worms here!
July 24th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
This is why religion cannot be reasonably discussed.. Harryballzonya had the most interesting thing to say
July 24th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Everyone seems to be an expert, huh
July 24th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
jfrater: no problem glad i could be of some use. I must admit tho, i am going to disagree slightly with the shroud. It was dated independently by 3 different organisations all of which returned a result of inbetween 600-700 years old. Which unfortunately puts the creation of the shroud rite in the middle of the rather costly and unsuccessful crusades. And with wat u said earlier, the shroud of turin and the Sudarium are not the same bit of cloth they are even woven differently, the shroud being a far more complex weave if i remember correctly. But arguin on the shroud is a bit of a marmite debate, theres no middle ground and its a debate in which people are very unlikely to change their stance. http://skepdic.com/shroud.html is a link that raises many interesting points. Not sure if i agree with everything but it does get you thinkin.
As for the taos hum, my opinion is that it is almost certainly man made. If it sounds like an engine that would suggest to me that it has a relatively constant frequency which in turn would suggest, to me, man made. Especially as in japan the source was attributed to fans. As for it being plate movements, im unconvinced as why would it be heard in the UK and not in places of far higher tectonic activity? Id also say that the reason some people can hear it and others cant is that although strickly speaking humans can hear all the way down to 0Hz many cannot hear below 20Hz and the frequency of the hums reported have been below that. This would also explain why its hard to record as alot of audio equipment cuts off at 20-30Hz. Also wikipedia says people “hear” it worse at nite, surely this is less busy people, less cars and so on so less background noise to cover it up??
Thts jst my 2cents tho
July 24th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
Though the origins of the shroud of Turin are (obviously) disputed, it is interesting to consider that the Holy Catholic Church won’t allow “non-repaired” portions of the cloth to be tested. The obvious implication (to myself at least) is that the even the “confident” Church is terrified of being proven wrong by conclusive testing proving that the whole thing is fake…
I suppose that the point of this post is not necessarily to point doubt towards the Shroud of Turin (though I don’t personally believe it to have any historical or scientific significance) but moreover to point skepticism towards the confidence of the church in the matter…
July 24th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
ajvaa: The Church doesn’t fear that type of thing – if it were a total fake it would make no difference – the Church stands on its faith and dogmas, not a piece of cloth or a piece of art. The fact is, the church’s hands are tied because if there is even the remotest chance that it is real, they must ensure that it not be damaged because that would be sacrilege. So really, the Church is in a difficult position and we will never really know one way or the other.
July 24th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Daniel: interesting points on the hum – perhaps it is just a larger group of people in one area with particularly sensitive ears who are hearing it. It will be very interesting if they ever discover the real cause.
As for your comments on the shroud – you are right that the three tests all found roughly the same date, but remember, the cloth they tested was from one of the repaired sections – not from the original, so it only proves the fact that the shroud was repaired in the middle ages (something we already knew from the history books). The sudarium was a different piece of cloth, you are right, but that doesn’t really have any bearing on the debate because if it were real, it would have been put on the head of the victim upon removal from the cross, and replaced in the tomb later with the burial shroud.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Why do people question faith? Faith isnt necessarily a religous thing! And what IF these other gods such as Zeus or Amun-ra was “our” god represented to other cultures? Our religion does not have to make sense to those that do not believe in it. Because those that do believe in God dont need to have proof.. .they just have faith which sometimes is even better. I feel sorry for people that question everything and cant just accept that there may be something greater than science.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
The sample for the carbon dating was was actually part of reweave. They didn’t test multiple areas of the shroud. Ray Rogers article in Thermochimica Acta states:
“Pyrolysis-mass-spectrometry results from the sample area coupled with microscopic and microchemical observations prove that the radiocarbon sample was not part of the original cloth of the Shroud of Turin. The radiocarbon date was thus not valid for determining the true age of the shroud.”
sciencedirect.com article
July 24th, 2007 at 11:09 pm
If anybody is a looking for a good website…go to the following:
http://www.shroud.com/
It was created and is maintained by the official photographer of STURP (the group of scientists who studied it in the 70s). Has many of the original scientific articles on it.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:21 pm
Im not convinced with this “repaired patch” arguement it seems pretty weak. That journal nature or whatever it was said that the fibres were deliberately chosen away from the patches and why would a team of clever scientists trying to date the original cloth take fibres from a repair? That seems like an awfully big oversight to make. Plus it was damaged in the fire in the 16th century which was only 500 years ago not the 600-700 quoted by the carbon dating. Admittedly carbon dating can make mistakes but none of the tests came back with a result of 500.
I think ajvaa is getting close to the truth. The Catholic Church has had a lot of bad press of recent, just imagine the outcry if one of their most holy artifacts turned out to be a middle age fake to try and drum up support for the crusades. I think that would make alot of people question a lot more.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Jello- Ray Rogers was proven wrong by Walter McCrone and Joe Nickell according to the previous link I posted.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:42 pm
Daniel,
That Rogers article was from 2005. Walter McCrone died in 2002 so he could not have proven that article wrong.
July 24th, 2007 at 11:50 pm
Jello- ah ok sorry bout that. The link I posted did have them provin Rogers wrong bout something, must have been something different then, did sound similar tho. :-S But if the carbon dating was done in 1988 and the samples that were used were destroyed in the process how was Rogers able to examine them in 2004?
July 24th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
He studied a couple thread left over. Granted not a great sample which Nickell does point out.
July 25th, 2007 at 12:13 am
Yea the passage I read about McCrone was quoted and slightly out of context but I found the full article and it says that Rogers report of 2005 contradicts McCrone’s findings of 1996. Sounds like Roger’s and McCrone were always arguing with each other so I don’t know how much attention Id pay to one when they say the other has done wrong. Jost of my own head tho is it possible that those fibres were deliberately left behind because they were from a patch?
July 25th, 2007 at 12:39 am
Awesome article. I like how so many people (ahem: Solo) are trying to start arguments when at no point did you say these are all true. At least that’s what I thought when you refered to the atricle as Mysteries. I personally think the Shroud of Turin was not Jesus’ shroud; however it is fairly mysterious that they cannot reproduce it. Anyways like I said, really enjoyed the article.
July 25th, 2007 at 12:50 am
Guys, you’ve really got to chill out. Read it, enjoy it. If you don’t agree, get over it. Get a life, and stop trying to show off your “knowledge” to everyone else. GAH.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:07 am
Jack the Ripper, although the killer never convicted, there is numerous pieces of evidence that point to a suspect and they have made an entire book, in which the writer is convinced that Jack the Ripper is a man named Walter Sickert. Evidence consists of portraits he has drawn on the crime scene at which the victims were found. Drawings made on the Jack the Ripper letter and doodles of Sickert. Circumstantial evidence for some of the murders. An obsessive amount of letter sent by Sickert matches that of the Ripper and most convincing, his DNA found on some of these letters.
July 25th, 2007 at 1:40 am
I agree with “Annoyed”. I thoroughly enjoyed the list.
Jfrater: maybe if there’s a part two of this list (which judging by these posts is inevitable) you can include the Bimini Roads? Your thoughts….
July 25th, 2007 at 2:44 am
you know, this is why christians bother me, they jump all over you if you say there relics are fake or anything pointing out any inconsistancies. meh. oh well.
the whole babushka chick thing is pretty intense though.
i bet you it’s a CIA operative or something like that. there to make sure and prove the whole thing went off without a hitch.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:49 am
jfrater dont u have anything else better to do? ive seen u comment on this dumb thing like 14 times. get a life.
and even if the shroud is fake its not that big of a deal.
and that babushka lady, her name is Barbra Bush.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:51 am
Very interesting article! I did a bit of reading on the shroud, especially after reading all this debate about it, and you’re quite right, it is definately a mystery! Despite all the research put into it, still it is unconfirmed one way or another. I hadn’t heard of a lot of these, so I really enjoyed the article.
For example, the Voynich manuscript? I’d love to read more about that. How can there be a publication in an unknown language/ script intended (possibly) for practical use? Very strange…I feel like the Babushka lady is like something out of a movie, you know, where the main character meets her in the end or something.
Another mystery you left out, which I expected to be on the list: The disappearance of the original Roanoke colony. Perhaps that has since been solved and they need to update the history books, but every time I learned about that (several years), I found it interesting.
Again, great article, thanks!
July 25th, 2007 at 2:53 am
Mike: That link for the Dahlia case doesn’t say they proved that the doctor killed her, only that his son is convinced that his father did it. Not once in the article does it say that the case is closed or that the late doctor is regarded as the murderer. The son just believes that his father killed Elizabeth Short.
July 25th, 2007 at 2:54 am
I dont know if this has anything to do with the toas hum but it got me thinking when its quite i hear a hight pitched hum or what seems like one. a defening silence so to speak.. does anyone know what this is
July 25th, 2007 at 3:16 am
If you want to read a great book about the Shroud of Turin. Pick up “The Resurrection of the Shroud.” The author Mark Antonacci, does a terrific job of explaining (in detail) the scientific processes used to analyze the Shroud, their sucesses and failures. If you’re really interested in the subject, this the book.
July 25th, 2007 at 3:32 am
….what about who stole the cookies from the cookie jar?
or where’s waldo?
and where in the world is carmen san diego?
July 25th, 2007 at 4:05 am
Tod you are a retard and suck at life
July 25th, 2007 at 4:49 am
What about Jimmy Hoffa? I think that’s a good one that was left off the list.
July 25th, 2007 at 5:12 am
The mystery of the Bermuda Triangle has been solved. It is methane gas pockets so intense the ships lose their bouyancy and sink immediately and reach high enought o cut out the engines in planes.There was a real cool show about it on discovery last year.
July 25th, 2007 at 5:13 am
is it me or do you see a picture of a faded woman in the “The Babushka Lady” in the picture that is second from the right
July 25th, 2007 at 5:31 am
If I had known that it would have come to this erroneous banter and low grade stupidity from your inbreading and sin I would have never started this whole thing. Now that I think back on it I should have crucified the lot of you sanctimonious holier than thou bible thumpers when I had the chance. The world would defiantly be a better place for it.
July 25th, 2007 at 6:24 am
RE: St. Germain,
Go to: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/2031 and download 2lcky10.txt.
Andrew Lang recounts many citations from various sources including: “story of the Count’s being a child of a princess retired to Bayonne–namely, the ex-Queen of Spain–and of a Portuguese-Hebrew financier.”
July 25th, 2007 at 6:52 am
all of you idiots trying to prove Christianity wrong are being stupid. We christians no more believe your atheism then you believe ours. Respect our religion, and well respect your views, dont keep trying to prove us wrong and attack us religiously, it portrays you as self-centered and uneducated. In our belief, yes there is a Christ, and we believe in Him and a Heavenly afterlife. Yours doesn’t, and you hold that belief strongly. Okay, whatever, get over it that we dont share the same views you do. This world is one of variety, and unless you haven’t made that connection already that means other people you talk to aren’t going to have the same views as you! Wow! Amazing! Now stop all your “faith is abandonment of logic” crap and stay on topic without shoving your “greater” religion on us.
July 25th, 2007 at 7:28 am
Mr. Anderson-Although I disagree with your belief in Christ and God (I am one of those atheists) I think your one of the only smart people on the entire comments section. At least you can let other people go and understand they are different. I can’t say I like the christians (or atheists) that bicker, but I think you are awesome.
July 25th, 2007 at 7:31 am
As far as the Shroud of Turin is concerned, we’ll probably never get an accurate date on it since: A. The backing cloth sewn to it after it was damaged in a fire has contaminated it B. The smoke damage done to it from the fire has further contaminated it and C. The Catholic Church has refused to allow fibers be taken from it for radio isotope testing, which is much more accurate than carbon dating. However, the general scientific consensus is that the Shroud is not some mystical artifact. The fact that the artistry involved in making the Shroud has not been reproduced is not so remarkable when we take into account that: 1. How many serious collaborations has there been in an attempt to reproduce it and 2. No biological materia has been shown to be on the Shroud. If your faith says it’s real, that’s fine…but the general scientific consensus is that it probably isn’t.
July 25th, 2007 at 7:37 am
What about Jimmy Hoffa? How/Why did he disappear? What New York/New Jersey site became his burial plot? Is he really buried in one of the endzones at Giants Stadium?
July 25th, 2007 at 7:57 am
The shroud of Turin is PROBABLY fake. It IS funny how people kling to something that seems like a sign of God, no matter how sane or insane it is. A rust spot on the inside of a toilet bowl that bears a resemblace to the historical image of Jesus will draw crowds for months. I had a door in my bedroom that looked exactly like a horse’s face. I wonder why no one came knocking on my door thinking THAT was a sign of something…
July 25th, 2007 at 8:09 am
Wow – so many comments! I can’t reply to all so I will just say thanks for all the suggestions on new mysteries for part II of the article which is coming soon.
Be nice to each other in your fights
July 25th, 2007 at 9:06 am
I never realized The Hum was even a mystery. I used to be in my room as a child during night time and hear a clear audible sound, although I would have never associated it with a diesel engine [sounded more like humming speakers], but I’d turn off everything in the house, unplug everything, and still I’d hear it even worse than before. Really weird. I don’t really notice it much anymore unless the power goes out or I get outta town and go camping or someplace quiet.
As far as the debate concerning the piece of cloth, I only have this to quote: “You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.” I say this to those who know what book this quote is from and those who do not. I think it’s pointless to argue about who’s more right or holier than thou. I think we should all just get on with our own personal lives and be happy that you’re still alive to live another great day. And by the way, and more importantly, let others live their lives as well.
July 25th, 2007 at 9:20 am
Religion is an outdated form of control used to keep the uneducated in servitude. We know better now and it has become an emotional crutch for those who feel there has to be some kind of justice at the end of their lives.
If you have to worship something, worship the message, not the messenger.
Just for the record, my father is a methodist minister so i was bought up with religion. My views are based on my experiences and observations.
July 25th, 2007 at 9:52 am
Headcase: there are far too many brilliant people who have been religious for your argument to be possibly true. But thanks for adding your 2 cents
July 25th, 2007 at 11:17 am
What does intelligence have to do with it?
July 25th, 2007 at 11:24 am
I laugh at the fact Loki says ”at the end of my life I have something to look forward to” Im not religious but I am not athiest….. I believe in spirituality but not in a religious sense and if you read The Power of Now you would see why I think a statement like Loki’s shows clear misunderstanding of the whole concept behind christianity and any other religion….
hint: things are taken far too literally
peace and good bless
July 25th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
#
79. jfrater | July 25th, 2007 at 9:52 am
Headcase: there are far too many brilliant people who have been religious for your argument to be possibly true. But thanks for adding your 2 cents
While Headcase’s argument that religion is only for the uneducated is a blanket statement that lacks credibility, it should be noted that someone’s brilliance and intelligence does not validate their religious views.
July 25th, 2007 at 12:44 pm
‘keep the uneducated in servitude’
I think this statement is the problem.
The hierachy that used to exist 2000+ years ago meant that slavery was rife and education not available to the poor. This could cause resentment leading to social unrest. What religion could and did do was scare people into behaving in an ‘acceptable’ way through the the commandments and the concept of heaven and hell. The churches exist now purely for financial gain, whilst the clergy are as much sinners as the rest of us. Just as a side note look up the history of the popes through the years.
July 25th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
seriously, for eveyone doubting religion back the heck off, and for all those who are completely religious, do the same. the reason we are what we are is because of what we believe and you shouldn’t impose that on other poeple just cause they dont believe it. i believe the shroud to be a fake, but if someone tells me its real and has proof im not gonna tell them they are flat out wrong and an idiot, cause thats just not polite. i was raised to be polite so i would sy to everyone who believes the shroud, “agree to disagree”….also, who the hell knows where jesus was nailed in the hand, arm or whatever cause anyone who witnessed it is dead anyway and most likely didnt really record it. and you can’t trust every written thing. you culd sk 12 different people who see a man get shot what happened and you will have 12 different stories, so you take it with a grain of salt and make your own personal assumptions
July 25th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
tjgrs: thank you – wise words indeed!
July 26th, 2007 at 4:29 am
Good list. I would like to ad that a possible addition is the story of D.B. Cooper. While the likelihood of the the gentleman identified in Florida on his death bed is reasonable, the mystery is still unsolved in the eyes of the law. In general I am disappointed no Crytpozoology reached into the list such as Bigfoot, El Chupicabra, or even Loch Ness. Oh and its pretty ridiculous this has turned into some religious debate that will obviously go nowhere. Its very astonishing some people feel they have to post their religious beliefs on some website. Vindification of their own beliefs to themselves perhaps. At any rate, good list.
July 26th, 2007 at 5:35 am
does anyone think that religion was invented for people to argue over? It seems to be a past time that pretty much everyone in the world has indulged in at one time or another
July 26th, 2007 at 6:32 am
Puposely: I am probably going to do a second list – I will be sure to add at least one of the animals this time
I will probably add D. B as well.
July 27th, 2007 at 4:28 am
YAY! Second list!
July 27th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
After all the comments, I haven’t seen anyone mention that the images on the shroud aren’t (or weren’t) visible to the naked eye. They were only revealed after someone took a picture of it…
I have several books on unsolved mysteries–this stuff fascinates me. I’ll find the citation and post it if this section is still open when I find the book.
Why would someone go to all the trouble to play a hoax that wouldn’t be seen for 600-2000 years? That someone would have had to have assumed that someday there would be an invention that would reveal the image…
Seems like a very forward-thinking prankster to me!
July 27th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Dangle,
Great post. That’s why I recommended “Ressurection of the Shroud.” It goes into to the specific detail you mentioned and more. As you said Fascinating!
July 27th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
i know i shouldnt really muck around in stuff from that far back in posting but wikipedia isnt 100 percent reliable, anyone can change it if they see something that they think is wrong, pardon my grammer, i write like this most of the time writing proper bugs me
July 27th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
im talking about comment 15
July 28th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
The Voynich manuscript was one I found particularly interesting (just about the only thing).
How can the Shroud of Turin be an imprint of Jesus? He didn’t even have long hair and a beard.
July 28th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
“How can the Shroud of Turin be an imprint of Jesus? He didn’t even have long hair and a beard.”
No one knows what he really looked like.
July 28th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
VD: don’t you think it a bit strange that all depictions of Christ – including many from the 1st century show him that way? If we can’t believe the people from the region who lived in the same century, who can we believe? Atheists who live 2000 years later? Hmm, is that too low a blow?
July 28th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Fruckert: Thanks for the comment. I will cite additional resources in future. I just like Wikipedia because it tends to have a lot more information on it than Encyclopaedia Britannica Online.
July 30th, 2007 at 3:32 am
“98. jfrater | July 28th, 2007 at 7:52 pm
VD: don’t you think it a bit strange that all depictions of Christ – including many from the 1st century show him that way? If we can’t believe the people from the region who lived in the same century, who can we believe? Atheists who live 2000 years later? Hmm, is that too low a blow?”
Don’t you think it’s odd that all depictions of Jesus show him with long hair and beard, despite the fact that the NT admonishes men who wear their hair long? In addition, isn’t it odd that he’s always represented as being Caucasian, when he would have been anything BUT Caucasian? Do we have to believe what Christian fanatics of 2000 years ago claim? Hmmm..was that too low a blow?
July 30th, 2007 at 8:27 am
Dane: I wasn’t saying you have to believe it – I am just saying that I think the chances are high in favour of the idea that Christ had long hair and a beard because the earliest depictions of him show him that way. Can you tell me where in the New Testament (or old) it admonishes a man for having long hair? It certainly wasn’t a problem in the old testament – remember the story of Samson and Delilah?
July 30th, 2007 at 9:20 am
#
“101. jfrater | July 30th, 2007 at 8:27 am
Dane: I wasn’t saying you have to believe it – I am just saying that I think the chances are high in favour of the idea that Christ had long hair and a beard because the earliest depictions of him show him that way. Can you tell me where in the New Testament (or old) it admonishes a man for having long hair? It certainly wasn’t a problem in the old testament – remember the story of Samson and Delilah?”
From Corinthians 1, Chapter 11, verses 14-15:
Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
This entire chapter deals with how one should pray before God…men’s heads shouldn’t be ‘covered’, i.e, have long hair because man is in the image of God, while a woman should be ‘covered’ as she is in the image of man.
Now, given this instruction as detailed by the Bible, I find it rather unlikely that Christ would just decide to skip his Dad’s AND his culture’s rules. That being said, it is therefore highly unlikely Christ would keep long hair and a beard….which would therefore mean the Shroud of Turin is NOT what it is represented to be.
July 30th, 2007 at 10:32 am
Dane: thanks for finding a quote. The translation you have used is a poor one (is it the KJV?) – a better translation is “Doth not even nature itself teach you that a man indeed, if he nourish his hair, it is a shame unto him?” – if you look at the context (read from verse 4 – 16) you will see that this majority of this section of the letter is in reference to covering one’s head when praying. The Eastern Orthodox and the Catholic Church have – since the beginning in the 1st century) forbidden men to cover their heads in Church and required women to cover theirs. This quote is not about long hair – it is about covering your head in prayer.
It is also worth remembering that Jewish women of the time wore their hair to their waists – it was considered effeminate for a man to wear his hair that long. From images found in Egyptian Tombs we know that Jewish men wore their hair to their shoulders – that was not considered long hair to them.
July 30th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
“103. jfrater | July 30th, 2007 at 10:32 am
Dane: thanks for finding a quote. The translation you have used is a poor one (is it the KJV?) – a better translation is “Doth not even nature itself teach you that a man indeed, if he nourish his hair, it is a shame unto him?” – if you look at the context (read from verse 4 – 16) you will see that this majority of this section of the letter is in reference to covering one’s head when praying. The Eastern Orthodox and the Catholic Church have – since the beginning in the 1st century) forbidden men to cover their heads in Church and required women to cover theirs. This quote is not about long hair – it is about covering your head in prayer.
It is also worth remembering that Jewish women of the time wore their hair to their waists – it was considered effeminate for a man to wear his hair that long. From images found in Egyptian Tombs we know that Jewish men wore their hair to their shoulders – that was not considered long hair to them.”
That is a possible interpretation, but not necessarily an absolute one. If, indeed, the quote references ‘nourishing’ one’s hair, that could well be interpreted as keeping long, full-bodied hair. In addition, since the Jewish community was so obviously concerned with cleanliness at this time period, I find it unlikely that they would consider shoulder length hair in men to be clean; of course, long hair was considered to be a hallmark of femininity, so they would have had to allow for that, since the Mosaic Law makes this clear.
In addition, you will see that 1Cor 11 very closely parallels Lev. 10:6. In the NT, Paul is making it abundantly clear that he is talking about the state of one’s physical appearance, not about head coverings. However, if you choose to accept the interpretation of ‘para’, as literally referencing some type of covering for the head, that’s your decision. I simply find this unlikely since, if that was true, millions of Christian women around the world are disrespecting their ‘God’ by not having their heads covered when they pray before it.
July 30th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Dane: it is still considered correct in the Catholic and Orthodox Churches (which comprise the majority of Christianity) for women to have their heads covered in Church. While many women disobey the rule, the rule does still exist and is consistent with the biblical requirements seen in Corinthians.
July 31st, 2007 at 6:21 am
The shroud one is definitely fake….. When you wrap a head in a cloth the head will appear bigger and wider. The Shroud of Turin head,on the other hand ,is normal sized. If the Shroud of Turin was true the head would have to be quite very thin to produce such an image.
July 31st, 2007 at 6:49 am
Jfrater: Actually, the majority of the world’s Chrstians are not aligned with the Catholic/Orthodox church. A little over 50% of them are associated with other sects of Christianity. Still, a sizable remain Catholic/Orthodox. Of course, that doesn’t mean a whole lot. All of the family on my father’s side are Roman Catholic and none of the women ‘cover’ their heads at services. I submit that both the passage in Corinthians and Leviticus are indeed referencing hair and not ‘head coverings’, like hats or shawls. If so, the majority of the world’s Christian women-including the Conservative Christian coalition, which prides itself on devoutly following the word of ‘God’-are disobeying their ‘God’, a concept I find highly unlikely, given the fanatical zeal and devotion of many Christians.
July 31st, 2007 at 8:33 am
Dane: thanks for the comment. As it turns out I was incorrect with my count – of the 2.1 billion Christians in the world, 1.05 billion are Catholic, 240 million are Orthodox, and the rest are various Christian sects. That means Catholicism is 50% of Christianity even if you don’t count the orthodox. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions.
July 31st, 2007 at 9:20 am
Jfrater: Well, if we’re going to start spitting hairs, my first question would be…how old is that Wikipedia article? How are the numbers gauged? How many times has it been edited? The fact remains consistent: despite whatever number of Catholics/Orthodox Christians there are, it seems a large number of them-and, in fact, Christians in general-aren’t telling their women to cover their heads during services…which would remain consistent with Corinthians and Leviticus speaking to hair, not head covers. Of course, you could counter with the idea that most Christians just don’t have it right…and with 36,000 sects of Christianity worldwide, I think you’d be hard pressed to identify which group DOES have it right. Shall we continue to go round and round?
July 31st, 2007 at 9:36 am
Dane: The data in the article is from mid 2005 (from Wikipedia citing adherents.net). Britannica has data from 2002, and the wikipedia article also has data from a different source from 2002.
Like you, I don’t have any desire to turn this into an argument! I agree that we should just leave it there
July 31st, 2007 at 3:56 pm
hey, What about the mysterious lights over Hessdalen, Norway? they have been recordered manyt imes, even by scientist. but are yet unexplainable!
August 3rd, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Mike:
The Black Dahlia case has not been solved. The pictures used in that special were not Elizabeth Short.
August 7th, 2007 at 9:41 pm
I dont know if this has been written in the comments yet, i only read through about half of them… but as far as the bermuda triangle is concerned, I remember hearing that there were vast amount of strong currents flowing in multiple directions which caused many ships to get lost and any wrecks from aircraft or watercraft to travel in many different directions being virtually destroyed and losts in multiple places. Don’t know how reliable of a source it was from, just remember seeing it on TV. If true, adds a little explination but still doesnt cover it all.
August 7th, 2007 at 10:00 pm
MESKI: There seem to be heaps of different explanations, but we just never really get conclusive proof one way or another. It is definitely weird.
August 9th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
people who talk of religion only being followed by the stupid or the nostalgic show shortsightedness, just as people now read lifehack blogs in order to improve their everyday lives, religion provides structure, focus and confidence. People argue religion causes war and in this thread you can perfectly understand why. but remember religion is often used as an excuse or a moral builder in a war and is generally not the most important factor. Using ones religion as justification lowers your religion and yourself. Similarly persecuting or blaming someones actions on the religion is stupidity and creates far greater problems.
Who really knows if its true or false, religion provides a carrot and stick (heaven and hell) approach in stopping people “sinning” (hurting/stealing etc) and i think that can only be a good thing.
I genuinely enjoyed your article, if i wasnt worried about starting a similar religion based comment war, i would suggest putting “religion as a whole” in your next top10.
I think theres a great power in the unknown, if i knew everything i think i would be extemely bored.
August 9th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Will: Thanks for that comment – it is obviously well thought out and adds value to this topic. Well done.
August 11th, 2007 at 2:23 am
i am going to have to agree with will on his comment.
it makes alot of sense.
August 12th, 2007 at 1:35 am
Nice job and very enjoyable. You are missing my personal favorite:
Why would Melissa Etheridge decide that David Crosby should be the father of her child? Couldn’t she do better? What was she thinking?
:-{)
Blu
August 12th, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Bluboo – great comment – thanks
August 12th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
It was only after the results came back from the test on the shroud did they say it was from the area that was repaired. If you believe the shroud is real, that is your business. For those accept the test as proof that is false, move on to REAL mysteries like the dropas in china.
August 12th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
couggod: thanks for the comment. Can you provide some documentation to prove your comment on the shroud? I would be very interested to see it, especially as we can see where the cuts came from and they are in the repair site.
August 12th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
Jfrater, I guess it bears repeating. The book “Resurrection of the Shroud” explains this issue (and others) very well. I highly recommend it if you are really interested in this subject.
August 13th, 2007 at 8:09 am
Chris: Thanks, I will certainly check it out.
August 18th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
I think Will is absolutely right. I read an article by a fellow atheist which was similar to that in the fact that it says religion doesnt necessarily teach morality (indeed in some areas it does opposite) although it can teach humility. Further, religion, regardless of what you think, is undeniably valuable to the human race. It can connect people and and give them hope. People with a sickness may become better against certain odds. They say religion helped them, and while God or gods may not have done that certainly them beliving they had someone watching out for them gave them willpower to get better. Thats a good lesson. Even if, like myself, you dont believe, it can be hard to deny religions practicality and usefulness at times. So dont fight, just allow people their own beliefs.
August 18th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
ben: well said – I totally agree with that – it is the reason I don’t delete posts or stop people from posting their views.
August 22nd, 2007 at 8:11 am
10. The Babushka Lady
“She” dont look femine to me , the way “she” stands and those calves look male to me. Just an opinion
August 22nd, 2007 at 9:17 am
Asta: I thought that as well – it certainly adds to the mystery
August 26th, 2007 at 5:49 am
what about what happened to… well where amelia earhart ended up?
August 26th, 2007 at 11:54 am
Gr8flDdFn: I think someone mentioned that in the comments.
August 26th, 2007 at 1:24 pm
ah. lol i tried to skim the all the comments but i missed that one.
August 26th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Gr8flDdFn: it’s okay – easy to do
August 31st, 2007 at 9:46 pm
Give “The Second Messiah” by Knight and Lomas, a read if you get a chance. It does a nice credible job of explaining the origins and basis behind the shroud. They convincingly argue that the shroud is that of Jaques De Molay, the last grand master of Knights Templar.
They have the science to back up their supposition and the chemical knowledge to explain the process……
September 1st, 2007 at 1:03 am
Dave: I would just have to doubt anything to do with the Knights Templar – they have become one of the organizations most enshrouded in conspiracy theories in all history I think! Thanks for mentioning the book though – all extra info is welcome
September 1st, 2007 at 1:57 am
1st i want to say about the christ cloth,we have to belive it is truely of jesus.. that cloth must have been used to cover the face of jesus after his death, we can clearly see that his eyes r closed, we also know that in da vinci code it is said holy grail was moved from one place to another so it must have used at that time.. even the blood spots must be of jesus only….
my 2nd comment is on bermuda triangle… we have to know that why still today no research has been done to found out what is really there we all thow that science has forwarded too much but still why cnt we find the answer?? one more thing is still today also plane,ship is missing in that place if it goes there some research must be done…
my 3rd comment is on the lady who is witness of kennedy murder.. that lady has the images of the murderer she must have known who is that murderer, she dont want to reveal that proof because it must be that it may bring bad name and impression to that person or he must be of high official power at that time… she must be afraid of producing evidence so that she will be in trouble someday she must be afraid to give evidence…
September 1st, 2007 at 2:17 am
manju: thanks for the interesting comments. Your third comment raises a good point – originally I presumed she may have had some relation to the shooting itself, but you could be right – that she was a witness.
Oh – and watch out for an up and coming list on the DaVinci Code – I would definitely not recommend you use it to support an argument because it is very badly written, not researched, and full of historical errors.
September 2nd, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Whoa!!!! Nifty list!!! Hmm…i had never heard about the babushka lady. It sorta freaked me out if you know what i mean…
Oh, and about the bermuda triangle, if we have so much technology nowadays, why havent we been able to figure out whats with the bermuda triangle?…(I mean, come on, we can figure out a way to cram a crapload of music into a little bitty thing that fits into your jeans pocket, but no one cares to figure out whats up with the frigging bermuda triangle!!!)
September 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 pm
Rosa: thanks for the comment – good point about the bermuda triangle
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:17 pm
jfrater: Thanks for this list.
After reading all 133 comments I would like to say that regardless of what SOME (Not all of them) atheist think, science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God. You therefore have to take a leap of faith to believe one way or another.
It is absolutely counter productive and pointless for the extremist of both sides to belittle one another for having a differing point of view. If both sides would listen to one another and respect each others opinions, we could learn a lot from each other and the world would be a better place for it.
I personally am skeptical of the validity of the Shroud of Turin. Then again, I never needed a physical object to help confirm my belief in the existence of God. I still find it a fascinating mystery and love reading material on both sides about it.
The two mysteries that fascinate me the most on this list are the Zodiac Killer and Jack the Ripper. The similarities between the two mysteries are astonishing to say the least. The biggest similarity between the two is why did they all the sudden stop and neither were ever heard from again? Serial Killers generally continue killing but these two just completely vanished as fast as they appeared.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:05 pm
soonerproud: thanks for the comment – it is very true indeed. As far as the killers are concerned – I think it is probably to do with either death of the killer or jail time (for unrelated crimes). I am planning a top 10 unsolved murders list soon, so keep your eyes out – both of the killers you mentioned will be included.
September 4th, 2007 at 6:39 am
Regarding the Bermuda Triangle: I have been fascinated by this area for many years. The most compelling evidence I have seen was demonstrated by a scientist a few years ago. We know that the earth continually expells methane and other gases at various points. He demonstrated that if a large bubble of gas rose to the surface, and a ship happened to be near, it would instantly lose its bouyancy and sink. I think this is a very plausible explanation.
September 4th, 2007 at 7:09 am
emptyhandkiller: that does sound interesting – now all they need to do is prove that there are occasional methane bubbles in that part of the world.
October 5th, 2007 at 8:34 am
another theory on whose face it is on the shroud is that it could be that of Jaques de Molay, leader of the knights templar, the leaders of which were rounded up on friday 13th october 1307 having been found guilty of heresy and condemned by the pope. by many this is thought to be the origin of the ‘friday 13th’ myth.
October 5th, 2007 at 8:40 am
meright: I think, unfortunately, that the templar version of the tale is a myth started by the Da Vinci Code – the many errors of which can be read about on the Top 10 Errors of the Da Vinci Code. Also, much of the mythology surrounding the templars is false – they were simply a religious order or knights that was disbanded because they were amassing great wealth. King Philip saw that as a threat to his power and spread many of the distortions of truth about them – namely the idea that they deny Christ as part of their initiation ceremonies. I think it is important to take a lot of these templar legends with a grain of salt.
October 5th, 2007 at 8:43 am
Ok – I forgot to say, the reason Friday 13 is considered bad luck is probably because Friday was the day Christ was crucified and there were thirteeen at the last supper table. Even in recent years a person hosting a posh dinner party will invite a fourteenth person to join their party if they end up with 13 for dinner by mistake – this is a very old tradition of etiquette. I think that the Friday the thirteenth superstition has come, like many holidays and ideas today, from aspects of the life of Christ. A far less sinister, but far more likely reason.
October 7th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
if carbon dating found it to be from the period of jesus, i don’t believe even that would be nearly enough evidence to prove it was his burial shroud. Also, if we can not reproduce an image onto a linen, how does that prove jesus wore it?
October 7th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
solo as for your words “I think it’s been a while we mastered “paint on fabric”. um they know its blood not paint. you really should study everything they have on it.
October 9th, 2007 at 8:34 am
jfrater, the purpose of my post was to further the discussion by adding different ‘angles’ to the topic. I’m very suspicious of all history as it is very subjective and in many cases is written by people with a secret agenda. eg: if hitler had won the war i’m sure his historical perspective would’ve been vastly different to ours-he would’ve twisted history to suit his purpose, holocaust etc.
When creating a new belief system it is far easier to do if you can offer historical evidence to back it up – if you look hard enough you will always find it as history has been written from so many different perspectives.
Just as a fun footnote…..I recently read that in the time of Henry VIII it was considered a prerequisite for good health that the King should expell semen regularly, hence the large amount mistresses……..oh to be a King !!!
October 9th, 2007 at 8:45 am
mreight: hey – I think that is good – I definitely wouldn’t want you to stop posting comments! They are the lifeblood of the site
October 10th, 2007 at 1:59 am
all this arguments about religions….
it doesnt matter if there is a mighty god or not,
religions are there to help you live better life
while your “living”
it’s heaven if your living a good life,
and it’s hell if your living a shit life,
who gives a fuck about a piece of cloth
of a man some thousands of years ago?
say it was authentic and everything,
what difference does it make to our everydaylife?
just live happily with people around you everyday.
but one thing…. you gota agree that church has so many crazy zealots and it’s a religion with
bloody history of wars.
and bibles are bullshit,
christians are too “human centred”
whats difference between killing a cow and
killing a human? human is an animal too.
and perhaps cows are much more innocent than humans??? humans did nothing but destroy
earth, to be honest, we are parasites of this
planet. perhaps its more appropriate to kill our selves?????
what im saying is, religion might help some people, but somepeople just over do it.
bible says earth is 6000years old and that
humans were the first created life form???
wow did you know that our whole milky wave galaxy is like not even a dust of the whole universe? and our solar system is not even a dust of that milky wave.
just dont over do things guys
you only got 100years to live if your lucky.
enjoy your life, dont get tied by stuff like
bibles……
worry about heaven and hell when your dead.
everyone dies in the end anyway kkkkkkkk
one rule of this world;
[existence ↔ nothingness]
October 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 am
This list was great but I think that the Oak Island mystery should be on the list
November 3rd, 2007 at 2:11 pm
say what?
November 6th, 2007 at 6:17 am
I have read many books on ‘The Black Dahlia’ and ‘The Zodiac Killer.’ Have you ever seen the movie ‘The Black Dahlia’? It’s based on the story. Oh yeah, and they also have a movie based on Elizabeth Bathory. It is called “Stay Alive.”
November 6th, 2007 at 6:25 am
alisa: I have seen the Black Dahlia film – I enjoyed it a lot. I didn’t know they had made one on Bathory – I will definitely try to track that down! Thanks for mentioning it.
November 6th, 2007 at 6:30 am
Yes, I would love to tell you all about it but I don’t want to ruin it for you. I have to warn you the plot is kind of stupid and pointless, and some things are different than the actual story, but other than that I think it is worth watching.
November 12th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
The all capitalized letters in the Zodiac Killer’s message make it even more creepier.
November 22nd, 2007 at 4:12 pm
This site is cool
theres a lot to know
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:37 am
The Voynich manuscript sounds like the most interesting mystery. Although I am very young I have always been interested in decoding messages. What I believe the author of this manuscript is trying to say, is that when you combine water=blue, with electricity= yellow, will give you a green color which is the color of the element shown where the women are at. Where the women are standing seems like it is a cell, maybe the author was trying to show that by charging an XX chromosome, a type of reaction could occur that would enable with the cure of a sickness or a type of way to make a girl sterile. Jaja hope I don’t sound dumb ,but i guess everyone has their own theories.
November 23rd, 2007 at 12:40 am
Rodolfo: that is a very interesting observation and just as good as anyone elses
December 4th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
I dont believe you know anything about all this and u can’t spect jfrater to be a genius, u are mean
December 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
well, he seems quite smart to me
December 6th, 2007 at 8:43 am
hi…i love the site…it helped me do my english project…a la prochaine mes amis!!
December 6th, 2007 at 8:48 am
maudit eric bé !! té tu pas simpe
December 6th, 2007 at 8:49 am
i love you!!
December 6th, 2007 at 8:50 am
wa pté vraiment simpe my buddy
December 6th, 2007 at 8:51 am
wayon war…quand on est tseule tu dit tlt moi toùt!!! lol:P c plate
December 6th, 2007 at 8:53 am
wawa!! cest tu pas plate ste projet site
December 6th, 2007 at 8:59 am
jtaime vrm la…!!!
December 6th, 2007 at 9:00 am
wawa wawa
December 8th, 2007 at 9:29 pm
Don’t forget D.B. Cooper
December 9th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
Anybody notice how that Babushka Lady always has a clean shot? Now if she happens to have a nice silenced pistol and is a good shot, she’s in better position at “moment of impact” than Oswald. I still don’t buy the Warren Report’s “magic bullet theory.” Nor do I, owning a bolt-action rifle myself, feel you could get that many perfectly accurate shots off in the time Oswald had. Now this person, lady or otherwise, right on top of the limo. Shots would be point plank. Try that for a theory, hidden in plain sight.
December 10th, 2007 at 7:21 am
Ricky est loser
December 10th, 2007 at 8:03 am
I think i might know the cause from the bermuda triangle but im not sure. Ive heard from many stories that the reason planes are always crashing is because the sky looks just like the water and the clouds and sky reflect off the water which looks exactly the same so when the plane raises up they accidently go down blowing them up in the water but im not sure why the boats crash…Still trying to fisgure that one out.
December 10th, 2007 at 8:11 am
jaide: the theory I’ve read for the boats involves bubbles of methane or CO2 (cant remember which, though I think it was methane) bubbling up from the floor of the ocean. When these burst at the surface the density of the water is suddenly reduced, which causes any ships over them at the time to sink suddenly
December 10th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Interesting. Personally, I think the theory that JFK was accidently shot by a Marine who was walking next to the motorcade to be my favorite theory on the JFK incident.
December 13th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
The bermuda triangle has been adequately described as a real phenomenon caused by methane hydrates
December 14th, 2007 at 5:27 am
honestly i have definately working on the burmudas triangle thinge n i think i might have a breakthrough…..ur list is realy cool……one of the precise few….but i would definately want links to pics or more pics…it saves a lot of trouble….keep it up n lage raho!
December 16th, 2007 at 5:50 am
I’d put the taos hum before Mary Celeste.
December 21st, 2007 at 9:54 pm
Shroud of Turin shouldn’t be number 1. It is by far the most controversial, but it is probably the least interesting of all (to me at least). And I think the Taos Hum thing is a joke. Doesn’t everyone hear low noises at some point? I certainly do, but I never pay attention. It’s just man-made noise, or the weather. The taos hum is also one of the least interesting things on this list. It hardly counts as a “mystery”.
December 21st, 2007 at 9:57 pm
Another interesting point: Do most Christians really believe the Shroud of Turin is real? Most of the Christians I know believe it’s fake!
December 28th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
In regards to the Bermuda Triangle, since I haven’t heard of any new disappearances since the 1970’s why do we even mention this anymore? Wouldn’t they keep occurring? So, why are people who believe in the shroud of Turin APOLOGISTS? Why aren’t the we labeling a colourful adjective to those who do not believe it is real, despite all of the testing they are doing to prove the contrary and not succeeding? How about – HELL DWELLERS?
December 28th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Oooh, that Shroud. Personally, it seems a tad coercive on the part of a God who relies on faith to stack the odds and additionally make available a magic cloth as further proof of Jesus’ divinity. That cloth is so marked-up, scorched and folded people have seen all sorts of things in it over the years. As to ‘recreating’ it, well they said we couldn’t recreate the pyramids either, and that’s only down to money. The Shroud is an impressionistic hand-painted cloth, with a history which starts from around the 14th century, when it was also considered a fake relic. Otherwise, why would God allow a single ‘mysterious’ relic to exist at all? That’s a wee bit paranoid… But then hey, I’m-a goin’ to hell with all the other Atheists anyway.
December 30th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
niceee, i think a few others should have been included, but what ever, and tht number 9, wow he must’ve been some retard, he really cant spell can he, believe me, ill figure out those last few letters, eithere that or theyre just jibberish
December 30th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
I’ve heard that there is ,um,like a “mystery” about the sphinx in giza in Egypt.I’m not sure if this is true,but it’s said that the direction of the eyes is’nt parallel.They intersect at a point and beneath that point are thousands of records and scrolls and books all about the ancient times,about hidden tribes,discoveries(because there is evidence that phonecians had been to the americas or the southern tip of Africa before Europeans.They left behind writings)etc….
Can someone please reply to this?
December 30th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Anyone??
December 30th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
NoBEfaRs: It all sounds a wee bit ‘Indiana Jones’. If true, then whereabouts did the hidden information go? Unless the Feds got a hold of it and stashed it somewhere. In which case, there’s a classic case to ‘argue from silence’. It’d make the basis of a good yarn, though.
January 4th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
I LIKE KILLING PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH FUN IT IS MORE FUN THAN KILLING WILD GAME IN THE FORREST BECAUSE MAN IS THE MOST DANGEROUE ANAMAL OF ALL TO KILL SOMETHING GIVES ME THE MOST THRILLING EXPERENCE IT IS EVEN BETTER THAN GETTING YOUR ROCKS OFF WITH A GIRL THE BEST PART OF IT IS THAE WHEN I DIE I WILL BE REBORN IN PARADICE AND THEI HAVE KILLED WILL BECOME MY SLAVES I WILL NOT GIVE YOU MY NAME BECAUSE YOU WILL TRY TO SLOI DOWN OR ATOP MY COLLECTIOG OF SLAVES FOR MY AFTERLIFE EBEORIETEMETHHPITI! That is so screwed up in so many ways man… TO BE CONTINUED! DUN DUN DUUUUUUHN!
January 4th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
hello peoples!
January 12th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Maybe the babushka lady got scared or something.Maybe she thought the fbi would interrogate her.
January 13th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
The markings on the Shroud of Turin were obviously from when Jesus was killed in the electric chair for our sins. I saw the video of it is on utube or some’tin. It is amazing how little all of you people know about religion. Before Mohammudd died on the cross so that Jesus could build the Ark he made sure that he had his seven dwarfs over for a last supper where they ate apples. Then Judas, who denied he ate the apple with Eve, got Jesus out of the lion’s den but he had to face Goliath with his Nunchucks. Then they were bombed at Pearl Harbor. Then Jesus’s brother Moses was at a party in Egypt. They had a lot of good bands like The Isrealites, Locust featuring P-leg, and Metallica who sang Creeping Death. But Buddha took everyone to swim in the Red Dead Black Sea and Moses got drunk and naked where he burned a bush. Good thing he did because he found a big slab of ten commandments which he stuck into Noah’s Ark. Good thing too because I love Indiana Jones where he get the Ark. Too bad Jesus got killed in the Electric Chair but at least they have is nightgown in Turin to prove that he was one stylin’ dude.
January 21st, 2008 at 2:17 pm
the shroud of turin is a fraud
January 24th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
only two mentions of Hoffa on the posts, 64 and 72, and no replies. Is Hoffa not one of the biggest unsolved mysteries ever?
January 28th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
umm not 2 be obnocious or anything buuuuuttt, aren’t all mysteries unsloved. If it’s solved its no longer considered a mystery. it sould be called:10 Unsolved Cases or somtin. but idk that’s just me. :3
January 29th, 2008 at 7:21 am
The Shroud’s is nothing special and “modern science” doesn’t duplicate it because there is no point in doing so. As for the Bermuda triangle as someone said before the coast guard sees nothing significant about the area. There’s probably more ships and planes passing through it than some other areas, leading to more disappearances, but not a higher rate for disappearance.
January 30th, 2008 at 4:15 am
JAck the Ripper was a man named Waltert Sickert.
Google it.
January 30th, 2008 at 4:23 am
kenshinX: I just looked it up and from what I gather from Wikipedia and the Guardian newspaper (reporting on Patricia Cornwell’s investigation in to the matter) there is still no real evidence to link him to the murders. In fact, Cornwell has bought over 30 of his paintings and has allegedly destroyed one as part of her investigation – it sounds to me like she is trying to bump up the value of the 30+ paintings she now owns!
February 1st, 2008 at 5:41 pm
The Babushka Woman… In your 4 photos, I see that the taller man in the white shirt is there too, and has not moved or ‘fled’ in every picture. How come no-one comments on the scary human skull on the back of her head, clearly seen in at least 2 pictures?
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:28 pm
D.B Cooper is a chilling, wonderful mystery. But I’d like to comment on the Zodiac- the Zodiac is believed to be the UnaBomber- ted kazynsci(sic) In fact, the last 18 letters of the code could very well spell theodorejkazynscki(sic). What do you guys think? Also there are documented reports of the zodiac saying hes from montana (an hour away in montana from where unabomber was found) and he was in the CA area at the time as a math professor. In addition, all eye witness accounts are eerily similar. I would bet money they are the same person.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Also, does anyone know where i can find updates to unsolved mysteries (the tv series) I have the dvd sets, but a lot of the mysteries do not have updates and im sure with DNA and what not they might be solved! Any help would be appreciated, thanks. Most of the ones that were updated were ones where the convict jumped bail.
February 5th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
Might I suggest the Amber Room? That’s an obscure – but fascinating – unsolved mystery. Obviously there have been many theories, but nothing’s ever been proven.
February 7th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
One of the things I’ve noticed about the comments on the Shroud (and other religious topics, specifically evolution vs. creation) is that most people forget about hierarchy in the scientific fields.
No scientist on this planet will accept a lesser science trying to set criteria by which the higher science must abide. (e.g. a Zoologist setting up laws to which the Biologist must give acquiescence.)
Yet, constantly, day in and day out we are told to accept that the highest science – Theology – must give way to every other (lesser) science.
I know for you atheist’s out there Theology is not a “real” science. And, unfortunately for you, if you don’t discover the value of Theology, or the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Faith in this world you will most assuredly find yourself in a very warm predicament in the next.
February 8th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I was once told of a truckload or maybe even a railroad train with a “money” car disappeared in a western state, and it had to be before 1963, as my brother had returned from California after military service and wanted me to go and look for it.
February 10th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
i think that the zodiac letter is one big crypt. never mind the word scramble he used to throw people off. I think that the words and letters are to random. this guy was smart. he randomly miss spelled words on purpose. I’m close to cracking it!
February 13th, 2008 at 8:34 am
I once read a book, or some kind of article (I can’t quite remember) the theorised that the police did, in fact, know who the killer was, but he was some kind of influencal person, so they couldn’t convict him.
And the Babushka lady looks kind of creepy from the back, like a skull kind of.
February 19th, 2008 at 4:17 am
to all these mysteries will remain as they are, mysteries. the only way to proof what happened is that someday, someone, somewhere invents a time machine and we all can go and see who’s right or wrong.
p/s : except for the humming thing, i think all the disappearing bees on this planet are gathering there, tired of giving humans free honey.
February 22nd, 2008 at 10:55 am
turin is fake the triangle is so bogus
March 14th, 2008 at 8:32 am
ayayayayayayay BAM bAm BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
There was this mysterious person/monster that attacked people in London maybe about te time of Jack the Ripper. He had big claws abnd scratched people. Are the the same thing?
March 28th, 2008 at 6:16 am
There are more thrilling things, like the dissaperance of a man (literally vanished)! from view, where there were no trees, buildings etc. He was at a farm and vanished completely in front of his family.
p.s. there are 100,000 planets beyond Earth and more beyond that.
April 13th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
There is not one single piece of archaeological, forensic or documentary evidence that shows Jesus was ever alive.
-mwillett.org
April 17th, 2008 at 3:36 am
(Shroud)Many people like to discover in order 2 find the explanation of things in life,that is a good thing as we human beings 2 do.But sometimes our intelligence is letting us astray.Problem with a person is,u come with something fascinating 2 him the day will never pass without changing the originality of the thing.How we r using our intelligency in a stupid way.
April 17th, 2008 at 4:27 am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080416/sc_livescience/earthshumsoundsmoremysteriousthanever
Is is related to no.3?
April 18th, 2008 at 7:23 am
thanks for sharing mysteries everyone love about and the discussions over them. There must be explanation to every mystery. As far as Shroud of Turin goes, carbon dating method is not as accurate as it is thought. For cloth it will be useless. I had heard about a photograph of the person living in the same home mysteriously appearing on a glass panel. Later it was proved that because of lightening and as glass because of detecteble synthetic elements had captured the faint image that remained as a permanent mark. What if the cloth had some chemical compounds mixed that could have acted as photosynthetic material?
Whether the image is of Jejus is surely disputable because though Jesus was a historical figure, it is not proven beyond doubt that he was cricifixed. Many beleive that he came to India( Kashmir) after that so-called crucification…was it political exile? Bible was not written in His lifetime…was written quite later. Roman’s manipulated original Bible…to make it suite to their political purpose and many mysterious stories were attached to his character.
Same thing can be applied to the mysterios humming sound. In India,, especially in Maharashtra state in Marathwada region, people have been hearing thunderous sounds coming from deep earth…no earthquake…no plactonic deflation…no harm…still sounds are horrifying and scientists/geologists still have’t found origin and reason behind the sound…nature carries more mysteries till we understand them.
Thanks
April 20th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
omg
May 6th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
From the very beginning of time people doubted – a ploy of the devil. I wonder what happened to all those people who doubted or denied that Jesus is the Son of God when they met Him face to face after dying?
May 8th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
sister gabriel
what happens to the hindus and the buddhists and the muslims…do they meet jesus too????
im confused….
May 12th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
hey i am disappointed that the loch ness monster native to my country ain’t on here.
May 15th, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Cells versus capacitors
During the experiments regarding cells and capacitors, we have seen yet unpublished properties, which could explain phenomena that have been thought of as mysteries till now. These could show many other solutions. Because there are new terms used in the results I will try to demonstrate these new findings on three natural phenomena.
On cellular membranes, there is spontaneus transformation of cosmic energy into electric energy if they are located in energetic overcharge in the same way as on the electrodes of capacitors. If two or more auras of matters are interconnected their auras merge into a bigger common aura and then their energetic values are equalised.
If we think about the human body according to the new knowledge, we could say that bilions of cells are in contact and their auras overlap, which means that the whole body has a common aura. This phenomenon works not only in between the human cells but also in electronics. The memory of a computer comprises of a great amount of miniature condensers and is able to store information in the form of 0’s and 1’s (0 = there is no charge, 1 = there is charge). Therefore, we could say that human body and electronics have some similar properties. This tells us that if the charge is increased it could cause harm not only to cells in the human body but also to electronics (this could be proved by some simple experiments).
According to the procedure that I’m describing in the article “Dowsing versus aura” it is easy to prove the reactions of energetic parts of water flows (aura, zones, interzones). By this we get an idea about the energy of small water flows and we could orientate in the energetic properties of great water flows more easily. By this I mean sea currents. There are many of these and their flow is in the order of hundreds of millions m3/sec and it could be assumed that they are in interaction with large streams around the Earth. The Gulf stream has various bends and meanders where there is multiple energetic concentration. In the Sargas sea there are also whirlpools whose diameter reaches up to 300km and they reach depth of 5000m. These further increase the local energetic concentration. These places could be thought of as critical from the point of view of further energetic increase from other sources, which could be thunderstorm clouds, moon, planets and other sources. Also, the planes that have been lost in this area could have connection with energetic overvoltage.
The zones of the Gulf stream copy in the shapes of cylindrical shells the US East coast. The energy of one of these zones could be artificially significantly increased by the use of groups of great capacitance capacitors and this would create a barrier that would destroy all organisms and electronics. However, there is a great amount of sea currents and this gives us the opportunity to built such a barrier anywhere on the Earth. This piece of knowledge could also be used for other purposes.
This knowledge about the energetic overvoltage of cells could also explain a strange phenomenon that occurred in the streets of capital of Nairobi on 24.July 1956 at 15:00 (03:00p.m.). About 200 men and women danced on the main street in Nairobi. The dancing people had a regretful look in their faces such as if they danced because they were forced to dance. It wasn’t possible to communicate with them and they didn’t perceive anyone who asked them a question. One hour later, there were 20.000 men, women and children dancing. Eventually, there were about 50.000 people dancing in a strict circle whose diameter was 3.5 kilometres. It looked like they weren’t perceiving anything but they kept about a metre of space between them and they didn’t bump into anyone. It’s interesting that even older people could dance in this dancing marathon for about 5 hours without any visible signs of getting tired. Later accounts of the dancing showed that they didn’t remember anything because their sences were totally crippled. Their memory and thinking didn’t work. It’s very interesting that even that there was no music playing with this dance all the dancers kept the same rhytm.
In this magic circle, not all the people were dancing. The dancers were those who had some metal objects such as coins in their pockets. The dance participants later realised a feeling that their body gained energy from these metal objects. Everything suddenly ended =at 20:00 (08:00p.m.). Nobody has been hurt or dead. This is a very rare phenomenon, which was also noted with some differences in Rheinland at spring equinox in 1374. Between 1871 – 1878 in the Savoy there was an epidemic obsession in women monasteries that was changing into diabolic feakout. The cause of these incomprehensible events hasn’t been found yet.
The knowledge of the empiric research also gives us an explanation of this mysterious event. People that were affected by the dance were located in the energetic space of the town that had greater energetic overcharge than the optimal cellular charge. This caused greater charge on the cells (including brains cells) and was followed by disorder of thinking. The fact that is peculiar on this event is that even older people didn’t feel tired after 5 hours long dancing. Not less interesting is the information that only those people that had metal objects in their pockets were affected by the dance. Three great time intervals between similar events show that the energetic overcharge could be caused by astronomical influences. I don’t doubt that similar anomalies in the region of aura could also be created by groups of great capacitance capacitors, which would create optimally enhanced overcharge in this given region. We noticed similar health disorders during the experimetns, but we interrupted such experiments due to the possibility of health damage. The fact that similar situation can’t be evoked by the people that don’t have metal with them prompts us to many useful applications. Bank robbers usually have metal objects with them, but bank workers don’t, so a button could be pressed and the bank robbers would give us a dance before the police arrives. There are many other such applications.
Another mysterious event, which could be assigned to the zones of the cosmic energy is the spontane human combustion (SHC). The spontane human combustion is one of the most controversial phenomena for serious researchers. The spontane combustion means that human body could be ignited without any optically noticed source. Very intense and unbelievably localised fire transforms most of the human body into ash. In many cases part of a limb, like a leg, remains untouched. Similarly, some parts of clothes or surrounding objects remain untouched. Nothing similar exists in nature that would be similar to those fires and the accompanying phenomena don’t follow laws of physics and findings of medicine. Some researchers also describe this phenomenon by “candlewick effect”. They wrap a body of a pig into a sheet and leave it slowly burning all day. They forget about the fact that the process of burning during SHC happenes in a matters of seconds, not hours. There is a great amount of information about this phenomenon on the internet and therefore I won’t further describe it, but will limit myself only to the classification from our research’s point of view.
Cellular membranes have a capacity of about (1µF/cm2), which means that they work like a capacitor. If we keep increasing the charge on a capacitor after reaching the threshold value, which is the maximum value up to which it’s sized, the isolator would eventually brake and in that moment, all the energy is released and the capacitor is destoryed. Similar disastrous process happens with billions of cells in humans. When the threshold energetic value for which nature sized our cells is reached, the cells explode in the same way as capacitors do.
I have written about three different phenomena, which by their specific show confirm functionality of other properties of cells and condensers. I would be delighted if some research centers used this new knowledge.
May 16th, 2008 at 11:54 am
well, my whole life has been full of mysteries and eventhough I tried to be as logical as I am, still all these facts make me wonder about life, esp my life
I kind of more of an introvert guy, family gathering is not my favorite moment. When married to my wife on 2003 I barely knew about her family. I knew about her father, mother, brothers and sisters and it was enough for me, which is actually not common for my culture.
at one night around early 2004 I had a weird dream, I was browsing through some old pictures prints each showing a house from the front. the old prints still had the white border. I took one look, and move to the next setting aside the finished ones. My eyes caught something unusual on the finished pile, the picture originally had two pillars with a wooden old chair in front of the house when I first looked at it. now it has someone sitting on the chair.
I then grab the pic and looked closely to the person, close enough that until now I’d still able to draw a picture of him. I mentioned name because his face was very similar to my uncle, I yelled “Uncle Swie, what r u doing?”. I’m a chinese indonesian thus we called people by using short chinese name. But then I realized it wasn’t my uncle and I then screamed another name Uncle Hin.
my wife woke me up and I was still not understand. then I explain to her and ask her about this Uncle Hin actually I also made a drawing of the face and also the house in my dream. she was surprised and told me that he was actually her uncle who died on car accident during the 1980’s and he was a carpenter. the house also matched.
this is just one experience, I and later also my wife still had many which still I myself unable to explain logically. another dream was when my wife suddenly had her grandfather talked to her in Latin. I wrote down the sentence and got someone to translate it. she was in no way knew about Latin. in life there are so many mysteries. it is also a mystery how I love my wife and children more than I love myself.
what a wonderful and positive thing for the world if our logic could really solve everydays troubles, unfortunately the magnificent Nature would never allow us to have the peace of mind without first discovering the peace of heart
May 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 am
This is bad why don’t you believe. What if maybe the Shroud of Turin is for real and not a fake. We are of so little faith. Did the Lord not show his hands to Mary in the garden.
Maybe his arms were tideup and His hands were nailed to the cross. Will we believe if we see it with our own eyes….?
May 24th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
“This is concerning Natalee Holloway:
I am not a physic and don’t claim to be physic, one night while watching the nightly news, a story came on about Natalee. its like I was right there watching everything from a distance, I saw a white building that was on stilts it had and it had a deck all around it. as you go up the stairs onto the deck, I saw what appeared to be a white chemical barrel with a red lock on it. the building was located on what appeared to be a beach, off to the right was a land mass which stretches forward and comes to a point.
Natalee is in that chemical barrel, they are not looking in the right place, straight across from the point about middle way into the bay there is a bouie, Natalee will be found near that bouie. I see the barrel floating upward because of the gases released because of her decaying body.
she will be found I just don’t know when! I do know that A fishing boat will find her! she is in what is called a inlet
which leads to the open sea.
the buoie is white with a red light which blinks!
May 24th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
I realize its been a while since the follow comment was published, but I thought I’d talk about it anyway.
“12. Solo – July 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 pm
Of course that does not prevent people from believing it’s legitimate. Like they believe the bible is the word of God (when clearly it is man made) or that the earth is 6000 years old.
It is in human nature to want to convince others of their own convictions, nobody holds opinions knowing those are false. But ever since I’ve been told Santa Claus was not real I take any extraordinary claim with a good dose of doubt.”
Read your last sentence again, Solo. Are you not doing the same? Are you not also trying to convince people of your beliefs? Its human nature, after all. Prove to me the Earth is older than 6000 years old, and I will believe you. (No, carbon dating and other such dating types are not scientific. They have been proved otherwise many times.) And again, real proof. Like, if you were actually there.
May 27th, 2008 at 12:24 am
faith is the belief of something without evidence or proof. so, why should a rational, thinking human being have it? i’m glad i don’t just go believing things i hear because some book or some person told me so–particularly things that often seek to control a person’s actions in some way (like religion). i think faith is at the very heart of some very serious problems in our world, for example people blowing each other up with bombs. just because your faith brightens your day, or you think that it gives your life purpose, that doesn’t make it true. there are matters of fact in this world, and whether they are true or not are independent of someone’s faith.
even though i don’t believe (due to lack of evidence)in religion or god, that doesn’t mean that i can’t lead a full life, or that my life has no purpose, or that i have no morals. i can easily walk outside and marvel at the awesomeness that is everywhere around me, and i can also look forward to showing it and sharing it with my future children. i think that extremely religious people are often the ones missing out, spending so much time fixated on church (i’m not saying church is inherently bad) and limiting the things they do because of the idea of god. just look around you–be in love, see the world. that’s plenty good enough for me.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:46 am
the triangle has been brokin it apears that when the triangular trade was going on americans through bcoloured people to the ocean, and while dying they curssed the place,which made so many dissapear or even die, the curse was so powerfull for many years, untill a couple of christion scientists broke it by blessing and praying for that place so now it wont cause trouble!
May 28th, 2008 at 12:48 am
and yes it was true,
May 28th, 2008 at 12:49 am
now its just a legend!
May 28th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Incridible information.
I will expect a little more mainly about Earth.
May 29th, 2008 at 2:16 am
aguy,
amazing point. i’m also not a religious person. to each his own. i simply see no point in wasting my time on trivial things such as god or eternity. i’m enjoying everything that is here and now.
jfrater,
thank you for taking the time to give me something interesting to ponder. =]
May 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
Really good information!!! i want to learn more about these great stories … you should do more on them.
May 30th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Angee what planet are you from.
May 31st, 2008 at 8:04 pm
I’m so confused on the shroud of turin all I see is the guys face, hair, neck line, and the dark image of his clothing on his body. Can someone please point out where his nads and wrists are because I don’t see them at all.
May 31st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
veggie28: check it out here – it is the full image and is much clearer: http://blogs.setonhill.edu/StefanieRobb/shroud.jpg (it may be the inverse image which shows the detail better)
June 5th, 2008 at 11:38 am
amazing, thanx for share
June 7th, 2008 at 12:08 am
I greatly enjoyed your list. It’s unfortunate that posting 10 different “mysteries”(not all religious in nature I might add), resulted in another religious debate similar to what you may hear at a bus stop in front of a church.
Regardless of the temptation to fall right into the debate, I will just say, great post and I look forward to more. Minus the Sunday school lesson of coarse.
June 7th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
About what Updoc was saying. Jesus was recorded in history by Roman Census, and by their legal system when he went in front of Pontius Pilate the roman in charge like the governor person of Judea/israel, And by Josephus or Tacitus who talked about “one Jesus of Nazereth, Who was a disturber of the Roman Peace. And the fact of Jesus’s real name, which is Jewish mind you as Yeshua and Jesus is a modern mistranslation. Plus talk to any Hebrew person about him and they are likely to say he was something like a great prophet.
One last not for Updoc, Saying something publicly like that is a pretty big slap in the face to every christian denomination in the world. Plus every Religion in general because it denies the validity of the religion and it’s right to be practiced. And right there you may as well have said that no religions should be practiced. Great thought provoking topic though. And a great list.
June 7th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
About the Mary Celeste. I Think that the Mary celeste became becalmed or in plain english hit a spot of weather that was acomplete dead zone for wind or propelling waves, like a large eye of a huricane for several days in a random located deepest part of the ocean, eventually tipping over and sinking to the bottom to rot into oblivion. Can expplain the people vanishing other than abondoning ship and hoping to find land God knows where but unsuccesfully and dying of starvation and dehydration and cannabilism and the latter explains the lack of bones from being tossed over the side for burial by the suvivors more easily than the alternatives.
June 10th, 2008 at 5:25 am
Hey, about the black dahlia, i watched a documentary on the whole thing a few months ago, but only just found this list, but the killer was found , if not arrested.
Admittedly, this dispute started about a year ago, but there was a detective, Steve Hodel, who realised all the markers lead back to his own father. digging a lil deeper etc, he was previously been the prime suspect, but police corruption had lead to him beng released. There was some indication through being a surgeon and knowing Elizabeth Short that he was almost undoubtably the killer. There’s a fair few articles about it, this is just one of the best explained http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/4-18-2003-39261.asp
just goes to show where knowing the right people can get you eh?
June 11th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
i think on the zodiac killer the word that wasn’t deciphered could possibly be arabic if you translate it.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
Ok i’ve tried to anagram the 18 letters at the end of the lettter from the zodiac killer but don’t know what to change it too and i’ve tried taking the letters that made the words mispelled and i’ll anagram those and i’ll try taking the letters that would’ve made the words correct and try to anagram those. i’ll try and look for a name since that’s what it says you might find in the letter but i’ll also look for a sentence or something.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:25 pm
i’ve also found before i die in the last word bu just messing with the letters to see if i could find anything but i can’t find anything else to make it a sentence.
June 12th, 2008 at 9:17 pm
so does anybody have any ideas
June 18th, 2008 at 6:44 am
Regarding the Shroud – Anthropologists consider that Jewish men of Jesus’ generation did not wear their hair long. Also, genetically they possessed a different bone structure. This was concluded by analysis of skeletal remains of young Jewish males found in Jewish tombs of that epoch. Knowledge about this period is not so inaccessible to us as you would think.
As for the person who wrote that Jesus was not a real, historical person, this is false. Remember that Rome was then occupying Jesus’s homeland. So, there are references to him in much of Roman records, in such forms as letters and reports. Much is known about the dress, appearance and mores of Jesus’ contemporaries. It’s unlikely that Jesus or any male of his social rang wore their hair long, it would have been socially unacceptable. this is even more true since Jesus was a spiritual leader and had so many disciples. He was a rabbi, a teacher. Don’t merely use biblical references to substantiate my claims – try to read up on some of the archaeological findings and anthropological research on that period. An imaginative reconstruction of what Jesus might have been like depict him as a powerfully built, wide-shouldered, short-haired man with strong features and a wide, rounded skull. Any of you can do research on this subject and will encounter similar results. So there is doubt that this Shroud which depicts a long, narrow, bearded face is of him – The only possible explanation is that, he had become emaciated and unshaven through his horrible, three day long ordeal. Or, as he was a social and religious rebel, he might have refused to follow the norm and chosen a different style of dress. However, in that case, I think there would have been comments from some of his critics and detractors. Or it might be a depiction of his inner self. In any case, the Shroud is not a painting as someone stated above. The list was posted so long ago, I don’t know if anyone will ever read this.
June 19th, 2008 at 4:01 am
W#LL wee never know these unsolved mysteries
but they will remain as mysteries…..
FOR EVER
we will never know them
June 24th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
I’ve heard the hum before….about 5 years ago, some people told me it was “7 year cicadas”…..
but now i see this, wow….
if anyone of importance would like to know the location email me at owadrenalinerush@yahoo.com
June 25th, 2008 at 7:25 am
Is there any new unsolved mysteries to poke our brains.
These are getting boring….
June 25th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Uh, I’m a Catholic and I don’t necessarily consider the Shroud of Turin to be Jesus’ anything, I mean it’s possible but I doubt it.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Mark: belief in the shroud of turin – like many other things of that nature – is not required of Catholics – they are considered pious traditions.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Yeah.
June 27th, 2008 at 3:40 am
WHERE IS GOD?
July 1st, 2008 at 4:04 am
He is every where…..
Do you believe in GOD? and Why?
July 1st, 2008 at 6:46 am
I like to think of myself as open minded and welcome proof of god and jesus christ but whenever your religious views are questioned you fall back on this wonderfully convenient thing called Faith. What is faith? Faith is ones belief with no merit or proof.
Faith is in general the persuasian of the mind that a certain statement is true (Phil. 1:27).
Persuasian is the act of inducing someone to believe something and could also be looked at as manipulation. So inorder to be welcome into the Kingdom of Heaven I need only to blind myself? Because he without faith has no place in the eternal paradise. I think not.
Go ahead and quote the bible till your blue in the face cause if ever someone needed proof that religion is man-made (flawed) he need only read the bible.
So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and my life was preserved.” (Genesis. 32:30).
No one has ever seen God. (John. 1:18). Um.. ok
God, Heavenly Paradise, it all sounds too good to be true. I’ve learned here in the real world when something looks too good to be true.. It is
Think outside the donation box
Oh and that damn Zodiac code is racking my brain….
July 4th, 2008 at 8:34 am
My 2 cents about religion. The claim was made that one cannot logically talk about it and it’s therefore a matter of faith. I disagree.
There is ‘religion’, which is belief in certain ideas, principles, books, concepts, etc., combined with certain behaviour and intentions. Obviously this ‘religion’ could and in fact does take countless forms. Religious people of this kind will never agree and yes, logically many convintions don’t make sense. Graham Parker said it well: the world is full of people like you; they have to read a book to know what to do.
There is also religion. That means: the experience of
re-ligare, to reconnect. This is a matter of knowledge, intuition and experience. And yes, one can logically discuss many aspects of it. If many references in the Bible match references in other books considered sacred, and they match modern scientific conclusions, then we are dealing with something real. One example is references about the astral body of man (chakras) in Bible, Bhagavat Gita, Koran and many other books, being confirmed by modern research. Yes there are chakras, yes meditation does change the functioning of the physical body, yes it is possible to live without taking food, etc.
My point is: untill you have at least some experience of being part of something infinitely greater than your body and your personality, you don’t know what you’re talking about when talking about religion.
BTW The hum I find interesting. And I wonder if there could be a conection with the AUM sound, which can be heard through the practise of certain ancient meditation techniques. Many people have been known to occasionaly clearly hear this sound also outside of meditation. There are places and shapes that are conducive to this experience. I cannot make a logical case here, but the similarity is interesting: the AUM sound is a verifiable reality and yet it cannot be recorded.
Best wishes to everyone reading this site.
July 10th, 2008 at 7:51 am
WHAT ABOUT JFK
July 15th, 2008 at 9:54 am
am a real agent spy,belive me.iv got all the poepel.if yo want them.you have to give me qeen victorais necklace
July 18th, 2008 at 5:47 am
i like the way you think nr. 247 Peter.
That is how i feel as well what you have said and i am a Catholic.
July 19th, 2008 at 2:28 am
this is gr8 information…
July 19th, 2008 at 5:14 am
@ ibelieve
Thanks. Perhaps some of my own Catholic upbringing shines through here ?
If you’re interested in religious experience and the underlying reality/unity of all religions, I highly recommend ‘Autoiography of a yogi’ by the great Indian-American sage Yogananda. It helped me to understand my own Catholic tradition.
All the best.
July 19th, 2008 at 7:23 am
The Shroud. Some one said it was a fake because the nail marks are in the wrist. Well that doesnt mean anything. If you were to be crucified even today the nails would have to go into your wrists as your hands dont have enough big bones to support the weight of the body. That is why they are in the wrist. If you do your research Jesus was crucified with the nails through the wrists as well. It is a misconception that the nails were in his hands.
I do love the site though. I knew alot of the stories but it was interesting to learn about the ones i didnt. I love this stuff and i will pass the link on to my friends. Great job on the site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 20th, 2008 at 6:37 am
I’m not a big fan of religion to be honest i think it has caused more hurt than good in most instances but i’d like to think that the shroud of turin was real because it stirs up the imagination. It’s these sorts of mysteries that gets peoples brains ticking away.
July 21st, 2008 at 8:51 pm
There was a BBC documentary about the Shroud on TV a few months ago. I’m an atheist and am skeptical about the Shroud but the historical and scientific facts and questions that the show threw into the mix were very compelling. Studies on the odd crease marks, on the possibilites of carbon dating being affected by contaminants, on the type of linen used, the fact that the image is a negative which would be an odd way to paint a person, the way the colour does not seep into the fibres but is just on the surface and also a very interesting historical account about a relic in Hungary found in a 13th century Frenchman’s diary that could well have been the Shroud. I can’t find reference to the documantary now, but even from a skeptics point of view…a very interesting show.
July 25th, 2008 at 7:08 am
Thank you Peter, will do. regards
July 25th, 2008 at 7:14 am
One ? Why do they always pick on Catholic miracles are there no miracles in orther religions. If there is are they true?
July 26th, 2008 at 9:57 am
#4. Black Dahlia.
For a number of years, including 2003, I was working for the Southern California Chapter of the Mystery Writers of America. Monthly meetings were held, at which there were almost always speakers of interest (except for election days and other internal special events).
In one month of 2003, the speaker was Steven Hodel, who had written a book, “Black Dahlia Avenger”, in which he claimed his father was the killer.
There were further allegations; That Elizabeth Short was not the only victim, a friend of hers, Jeanne French, was also killed a month later; That the house the Hodel’s lived in was bugged, but for reasons known only to the DA’s office, no charges were ever filed (maybe because the guy was innocent? I read the book and still don’t have a handle on the truth)…this is a man (Steven) who obviously hated (hates still) his father. The reasons he hates him (which he denies flat-out) are valid if truthful, and they seem to be.
Wouldn’t it be amazing if this mystery was solved, finally, by the son of the murderer?
July 26th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
My two cents. See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil if God takes his own advice I’d say we have nothing to worry about sin away ppl sin away lulz.
With all the promises of eternal hell for the non believer etc I rather believe in God than not and I know you can say if your truly sorry he will forgive. Well I am not truly sorry lest I wouldn’t sin again so guess I am screwed anyway
July 26th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
@259 Pratt
I can’t quite follow your reasoning, but take it from me: as far as God is concerned the issue is not to sin or not to sin, but to love or not to love.
July 27th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Peter – if you are reading/discussing areas of the unity of people/religion – check out Baha’i – religion is not for me, but these people have about the sanest teachings I’ve ever seen, if that’s your thing…
July 28th, 2008 at 7:16 am
261 Quietmike,
Thanks, I appreciate your suggestion. I am aware of the Bahá’i faith.
You say religion is not for you and wonder if it’s my thing. What if we look at it this way?:
The love and intelligence in this world must be a manifestation of the potential love and intelligence inherent in the cosmos. That potential must be enormous, perhaps even what we call infinite.
The question is: can an individual have a conscious connection with that source ?
If yes, that is the only true relgion. Then it doesn’t really matter if one is a christian or muslim or anything, because those religions are merely ‘entrances’ to the experience of this connection.
If no, religions are merely social phenomena. At best a positive force in society and at worst a strongly divisive factor.
If you read spiritual texts of all ages and places, you will see that using different words they clearly refer to the same experience of re-connection (re-ligare) with the sourse of all life.
Most people, including the majority of people that would call themselves religious, don’t know this experience. Which explains why the world looks as it does.
So, yes, religion is my thing. Its goal is love and the way is meditation. The rest, moral standards, devotion etc. is helpful but ultimately not necessary (if one meditates enough that is).
All the best.
July 31st, 2008 at 8:08 am
about the babushka lady, why didnt the american officials name her as a prime suspect if they found her so suspicious. that way they could have found the recording and taken it from there
August 6th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
I like all the Mysteries you guys. I like them because they keep you guessing. I’m only 17 years of age but when i get older i want to go to these places and see all these Mysteries. If you get anyother Mysteries i would like to know
August 14th, 2008 at 11:24 am
i think the zodiac killers first name is robert
August 14th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
AAAAAAAAAAAA THESE CASES R JUST SO EASY VATO!!!!!!
1- The face is just an ilusion
2- The boat- the family commited suicide
3-the sound comes from behind the mountains
4-the murderer is encovered by the newspaper and still lives
5-he obviously walked away and died
6-that manuscript is written in greek of the 10th century
7- jack the ripper is dead
8- the triangle has some kind of magnetic force underwater
9- hes just trying to get attention
10-she is an involved in the murder
THATS ALL I GOTA SAY…
NOS VEMOS
August 14th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Just goes to show, if you want to get something done, ask a Mexican.
August 15th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
the bible is not man made. it is the word of god as told to men by god. god used his followers hands to write his word so believers can come to know and love him and see how he cares for us and the mercy he shows to us. god talks to me and any body else that will listen the same way he talked to moses and david and all the rest. thank you and god bless
August 18th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
I’ve often wondered what would happen if the followers of Jim Jones or David Koresh wrote down everything they said and did and 2000 years from now their writing were uncovered and they were considered true Messiahs. Most people can’t get a story right that was told to them yesterday. Can we really believe what was written centuries ago by people that had no real understanding of science, medicine or what was really happening that they couldn’t explain? I believe in God but have had this debate with my religious friends many times. The Bible was written by MAN based upon what his mind could comprehend at the time. Examples: Man in a coma wakes up and it looks like someone rising from the dead. The 10 plagues; they’ve been explained by science many times. Also, how come they’re is no mention of dinosaurs or cavemen in the Bible? Is there anyone reading these list that don’t believe they existed? Why did the Church exclude several books from the Bible? Is it because they didn’t fit in to acceptable standards at the time? Let’s continue this great debate over a great list.
August 19th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
269. MT…Also, how come they’re is no mention of dinosaurs or cavemen in the Bible?…
****
You’re kidding, right?
Seriously, you have to be joking. Dinosaurs and cavemen in the bible?
When were the first examples of dinosaurs discovered?
When were the first examples of “cavemen” (god! I didn’t think anyone older than 11 used that term any longer!), uncovered?
They could only write stories, parables, that were known to them. All of the great books of the worlds great religions came about in much the same way; stories which had been passed down, orally, for thousands of years, were finally written down.
Why do you imagine all of the great religions have almost identical stories contained in their holy books?
I could make this an essay, but I really don’t need to. By now you certainly get the point.
August 20th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
270: seque:
First tell me what is the correct term to use instead of caveman. I was being generic so Cro-Magnon, etc. didn’t really apply. Also, since Genesis was the description of the beginning of the Earth and described in detail many other animals, why no dino’s mentioned? Why no mention in any other books of the Bible? You have no idea what I imagine but it is usually not what others are taught to “imagine”. Other than that we agree on the other points. And by the way, I’m much older than 11 and show it in the way I respond to other posters.
August 27th, 2008 at 7:57 am
About the tao’s hum.. I think that’s heard in my country.. It comes from trees and I think their insects.
August 27th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
the voynich manuscript is an old teastament it is anceint hebrew
September 5th, 2008 at 3:52 am
Why isn’t there an artikel about the monster of loch ness?!
I think it deserves a place in the top 10..
September 11th, 2008 at 3:41 am
Silence!… INFIDEL!!!
I am blind of what I saw today.Is this what your writing down after creating your ten-fcking fingers. These fallacious act of everyone knows nothing but masturbating!
Willam Tell- Satan is waiting for you. Better be ready.
Julie Aime- what’s your grade in your English Exam?
Daniel- You’re an A-hole!
GOD- Better watch 2 girls 1 cup!
MT- (_(_)=====D… try to eat this thing!
September 11th, 2008 at 4:14 am
Allow me, o mighty Supreme Being:
‘Julie Aime- what’s your grade in your English Exam?’
‘Is this what your writing down after creating your ten-fcking fingers. These fallacious act…..’
September 11th, 2008 at 9:22 am
275. The Supreme Being seems to be addressing a particular classmate.
My guess is The Supreme Being requires psychiatric help *NOW*, before he can do anyone any harm.
September 12th, 2008 at 3:01 am
Maybe it is just a story
September 16th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
AGAIN!!!
Silence! Infidels!!
Hey Peter… What made the redman red?
Why does he ask you HOW?
When did he first say Ugh!
segue… Never met a wiseman but you talk like one…
Maybe you’re a fuckin’ woman…
( you talk too much you son of a bitch )
September 17th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Well, The Supreme Being, in post 279, leaves no doubt of either his being a child, or his need for psychiatric attention.
Peter, if in cahoots with The Supreme Being, should also receive help.
September 17th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Supreme Being,
You wrote:
‘AGAIN!!!
Silence! Infidels!!
Hey Peter… What made the redman red?
Why does he ask you HOW?
When did he first say Ugh!’
It doesn’t make much sense to me to want someone to be silent and then ask him questions. But OK, I’ll do my best:
1 It’s pigmentation of the skin
2 I guess it’s because he doesn’t expect any answers from you
3 He says that to you ? But … that’s so ….unrespectful.
September 17th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Peter is a fuckin’ moron..
The question was from Peter pan… then there you go
1 It’s pigmentation of the skin
2 I guess it’s because he doesn’t expect any answers from you
3 He says that to you ? But … that’s so ….unrespectful.
What an asshole!!
What made the redman red? ALULULULULULULU!!!!
September 18th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
you guys are fucken retards
how bout u stop bikkering and try work these weird ass things out!?!?
hmmmmmmmmm?
September 19th, 2008 at 4:19 am
hi there!… care to smoke some weed?
I’m Jesus’ step brother anyway..
Why can’t you guys just live your life without questioning which you can find the answers when your dead. Why not do crack, smoke weed, fuck your best friend’s mother and just live your fuckin’ life so that you can join me after death.
September 19th, 2008 at 6:04 am
sorry about my english.I heard theres NO ANY MYSTERY IN BERMUDA.Deep in the sea it has many under sea volcanos.There fore they make some gases and gases come out from the soil.Cause of the gases thickness of the water is going down.Therefore ships are drawning.Fraom the upper layer of theeater gases are releasing tothe air.Then air thickness is going down.Therefore plans are crashing.
September 26th, 2008 at 11:52 am
is there a holy war going on?
September 26th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
#286. m0nk3yhum0r – is there a holy war going on?
****
Go check out “Should Creationism be Taught in the Schools?”
*THAT’S* a holy war!
October 1st, 2008 at 3:44 pm
the shroud is a fake, how can a cloth survived all these centuries, how come it stays like that and did not rot or something like that. what is that cloth made of if it is really a cloth.
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:03 am
The Shroud cannot be the imprint of the Lord Jesus Christ because it has the whole image of a man which is in total contradiction of the scripture namely John 20:6-7 6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie,
7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.
It said that the napkin (linen cloth) that wrapped his head was separate from the cloth that wrapped his body.
Case closed
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am
will04. Nice. Amen to that one.
Though many would like to believe that it was the imprint…and not saying that God is incapable of doing something so great….I have a feeling people really just needed something visual for their faith.
I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Period. That has been proven to me time and time again, not through men but through God Himself. Yes, God uses men/women but ultimately you experience God spiritually…and emotionally. And some supernaturally. Unfortunately there are those who don’t live their lives as Jesus would have them…and in by doing so, put a bad name on those of us who truly try. There shouldn’t be animosity in this blog. Just state your opinion and live accordingly to it.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 am
The Christ only hung on the cross for three hours. He was pierced in the side by Saul (later called St. Paul) and blood and serous fluid came from his lung (the water and the wine of Communion) Maybe he was nailed through the hands, most convicts were tied to the cross after their arms and legs were broken. We see this in archeological finds of that era. Soooo. The Christ died quickly compared to others who had been crucified. Pilate believed him innocent and may have done this to hasten his death, for mercy. However the scourging at the pillar and crowning with thorns would show that Roman soldiers were not so inclined to mercy. I believe in the Shroud in this world of hard drives and concrete scenery it is sometimes difficult to hold onto the faith in Faith.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 am
Will04,
Well, thousands of people, including top scientists and what not, have been studying all possible aspects of the shroud. Do you think they all forgot to read the Bible or something ?
My guess is that no one will notice that you closed the case.
Selina,
You are right that practising the preaching is what it is all about. Also what you say about experiencing God I totally agree with.
However, am I wrong when I suspect that you imagine that experiencing God is something only christians can do ? What if people of other religions (I remember a very sincere mormon young man, who told me in private that what his friend had said about the faith is really true. ‘God has told me so, Peter’) have the same kind of devotion to God, the same love for God and His creation, the same experiences of being safe and free in God’s love ? Does it count less ?
I hope not.
‘The son of God’ obviously does not mean that God had sex with a goddes and she got pregnant with a boy. So what does it mean ? I believe this: the Christ consciousnes is God’s consciousness present in creation.
Is there any reason, belief and conditioning not counting as such, to assume that no other human being could ever transmit that consciousness ? There are other spiritual giants that healed, preached love, even raised the dead. Since we are not at that level, is there any way we could compare Jesus, Buddha, Krishna, Yogananda, Ammaji etc., and assess whose consciousness was more divine ? I think we shouldn’t try.
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:48 am
Synchronicity….
Just got this in the mail:
‘This galvanizing book, presenting the teachings of Christ from the experience and perspective of Paramhansa Yogananda, one of the greatest spiritual masters of the twentieth century, finally offers the fresh perspective on Christ’s teachings for which the world has been waiting. This book presents us with an opportunity to understand and apply the Scriptures in a more reliable way than any other: by studying under those saints who have communed directly, in deep ecstasy, with Christ and God.’
October 2nd, 2008 at 10:54 am
Iwanttobelieve:
Uh… Saul did NOT “pierce Christ” in the side or anywhere else at any time, IWTB. Saul never MET Jesus. (Unless you want to count having a vision of the same on the road, whilst Saul was on a trip to persecute some more Christians). You have your biblical figures mixed up.
You’re thinking, I believe, of Longinus, the roman soldier who pierced Jesus thusly.
Also, wrong on the “archeological finds” point about crucifixion. There is, in fact, very little–almost no–evidence of how crucifixion was carried out. Probably it was done in a myriad of ways, any one of which could have brought about the slow and painful death that was the point of it all.
But by “slow” we don’t know HOW slow. (Again, because there’s so little evidence). It certainly varied from victim to victim.
There would have been no reason to stab Jesus with a spear BUT to end his suffering… unless we consider that Longinus did it simply to further torture him. This seems unlikely, to me.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 am
No JFK a little surprised.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:07 am
Peter,
If all the ‘thousands of people, including top scientists and what not’ will just read the Bible account in John 20, they will realize that the image on the cloth CANNOT be the Lord Jesus Christ.
Shalom
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 am
Why do some people find it necessary to use language that is considered vulgar? I was reading through the comments and finding the whole list interesting and then I’m forced to read someone’s idea of an intelligent comment. I was once told that people use vulgarity to cover up their ignorance. The comments made by 283. Jon ho; 282. Holy Immortal One and especially 275. The Supreme Being – have no use other than to embarrass, anger or disgust those who must read them.
To the owner of this list: I’m assuming you have the capacity to edit the entire site, including comments. PLEASE delete those comments or at least those words. I appreciate the freedom to express any opinion and criticize anyone’s correspondence but when I read items like this I have to choose between enjoying the site and shutting myself out of interesting conversation. I would like to continue perusing this site occasionally but now am hesitant to do so.
PLEASE take your vulgarity out of your comments. They serve no purpose other than showing everyone else what bottom-dwelling scum you are. If your mother taught you those words, shame on her and I’m sorry your life was so vile. If you wouldn’t use this language in front of your mother then shame on you.
I know I am only one person and whether I visit this site or not makes absolutely no difference to anyone. I am just sick and tired of the filth that oozes out of some – dare I call them – “people”. There is no excuse and no reason and not everybody talks like that. Please be articulate and decent or SHUT UP. (I AM asking NICELY)
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 am
What about JFK, Nessie, Bigfoot/yeti, Devils Triangle, chupacabra, Atlantis, Amelia Erhart, Stonehedge and how many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie-Pop?
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:17 am
Burning Eyes,
Well said.
One can comment or make a point without the need for vulgarity or filthy language..
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 am
All this talk about religion, god, athiesm, blah blah blah is off topic. I don’t want to read about anyone’s point of view, knowledge, belief, etc. about any of that. It doesn’t matter for the purposes of this list. This list is about mysteries – the Shroud of Turin being only one on the list. There is no proof positive on what it really is, when it was produced, etc. There is only enough information to make it an interesting mystery. This list is only one person’s top 10 mysteries and there are so many others that they can’t possibly be covered. I would like to read comments on the mysteries – NOT the beliefs or lack of beliefs behind them. If you don’t believe it’s a mystery then fine. If you are fascinated by what, where and why then talk about that. I promise I will not take up anyone’s time to write a long essay about what I believe. None of you are really interested anyway.
Other than that I love the idea of this list.
Posting a mystery and a link to learn about it would really be great.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 am
Crucifixion sometimes began with a scourging or flogging of the victim’s back. The Romans used a whip called a flagrum, which consisted of small pieces of bone and metal attached to a number of leather strands. During the scourging, the skin was ripped from the back, exposing a bloody mass of tissue and bone. Extreme blood loss occurred, often causing death, or at least unconsciousness.
After the flogging, the victim was often forced to carry his own crossbar, or patibulum, to the execution site. The patibulum could easily weigh 100 pounds. Once the victim arrived at the execution site, the patibulum was put on the ground and the victim was forced to lie upon it. Spikes about 7 inches long and 3/8 of an inch in diameter were driven into the wrists. The spikes would hit the area of the median nerve, causing shocks of pain up the arms to the shoulders and neck. Already standing at the crucifixion site would be the 7-foot-tall post, called a stipes. In the center of the stipes was a crude seat to “support” for the victim. The patibulum was then lifted on to the stipes, and the victim’s body was awkwardly turned on the seat so that the feet could be nailed to the stipes. At this point, there was tremendous strain put on the wrists, arms and shoulders, resulting in a dislocation of the shoulder and elbow joints. The position of the nailed body held the victim’s rib cage in a fixed position, which made it extremely difficult to exhale, and impossible to take a full breath. As time passed, the loss of blood and lack of oxygen would cause severe cramps, spasmodic contractions and probably unconsciousness.
Ultimately, the mechanism of death in crucifixion was suffocation. To breathe, the victim was forced to push up on his feet to allow for inflation of the lungs. As the body weakened and pain in the feet and legs became unbearable, the victim was forced to trade breathing for pain and exhaustion. Eventually, the victim would succumb in this way, becoming utterly exhausted or lapsing into unconsciousness so that he could no longer lift his body off the stipes and inflate his lungs. Due to the shallow breathing, the victim’s lungs would begin to collapse in areas, probably causing hypoxia. Due to the loss of blood from the scourging, the victim probably formed a respiratory acidosis, resulting in an increased strain on the heart, which beats faster to compensate. Fluid would also build up in the lungs. Under the stress of hypoxia and acidosis, the heart would eventually fail.
October 2nd, 2008 at 11:46 am
298. Scotty
This is totally unverified, of course, but I heard once that someone actually counted the number of licks to the center of a Tootsie pop and notified *(I forget what candy company makes them). They supposedly sent this person a whole case!
Probably not true but I think it’s a fun idea. I always wanted to do that but never could lick all the way to the center without biting!!!
October 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 pm
One of the biggest mysteries of all time was left off.
What happened to Amelilia Earhardt, with so many theories and questions this should have been if not number one at least one of them.
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
i thought they caught the zodiac killer
October 2nd, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I think there is still mystery surrounding the “recovery” of the bodies of John F. Kennedy, Jr., wife, and sister-in-law that makes me think the bodies were not recovered. I know there was “scant media coverage–or propaganda” of body containers being loaded on a ship and very little media coverage of the Kennedy clan on a boat going out to the crash site for a ceremony and flowers being tossed in the water…”after the bodies were supposedly back on shore.” My question, “what would be the point of the Kennedy family going back to the crash site and having a ceremony and flowers in the water” AFTER the bodies were back on shore??? Also, it was said that the bodies were cremated. Being staunch Catholics, I find this interesting as Catholics do not believe in cremation–therefore, if the bodies were recovered, why would the family decide to cremate them against Catholic doctrine? Any thoughts or comments to make me believe the bodies were acutually recovered?
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm
297. Burning Eyes: I found the comments of that person posting under several names (Holy Immortal One, The Supreme Being, etc.) offensive also, but the fact is that you were *NOT* forced to read them.
As soon as you discovered the content of the posts to be offensive, you had the choice to skip over the post and go on to the next.
One *always* has a choice.
Go to the movie or don’t go to it.
Read the book or don’t read it.
Watch the t.v. show or don’t watch it.
Have an abortion or don’t have one.
Be critical of your child or be loving.
Be cross with your neighbor or be kind.
Pay cash for your purchases or run up debt.
Life presents us with choices at every turn. It’s up to us to make the right choices as many times as possible.
Some of the choices are easy: ‘don’t read the post which offends me’.
Some of the choices are more difficult:’pay cash rather than run up debt’.
Making good choices almost every time makes you a happier person, and gives you far less to complain about.
I know this looks like an overreaction to your one simple comment.
It’s really in reaction to many complaints, yours just gave me a jumping off point.
October 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
305. gears…Catholics do not believe in cremation…
****
That used to be true, but is true no longer. Catholics are now free to choose cremation.
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:19 pm
segue: the Code of Canon Law permits it only in the cases of pestilence, or when the person requesting it does so without reasons contrary to the teachings of the Church:
There generally has to be a good reason – considering it is so vehemently opposed traditionally:
October 2nd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Peter- I think that other people -non-christians- can have an “experience” with God…yes. But they can not, and I repeat, CAN NOT have a relationship with the Lord unless they first come to believe and know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
In response to your question/statement on how Jesus is God’s Son…I encourage you to read “The Shack” by William P. Young. It explains the Holy Trinity in a way I cold never explain. Please read it.
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:13 pm
#289 Will04: the different gospels give different accounts of the linen that Jesus was wrapped in but this doesn’t prove or disprove the Shroud of Turin.
What does it matter? “The Just shall live by Faith.” I mean if everything in the Bible could be scientifically proven then the world would have no choose but to believe it. God wants us to live by faith and trust in Him and believe all these things without solid proof. The Bible to me is proof enough. I mean I don’t really care what the Shroud of Turin is.
Peace.
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:15 pm
308. jfrater: Thank you for your excellent correction.
I had been given the information, that Pope John John Paul 2 has made the change, by someone whose word I trust sufficiently to not fact check. A very high level of trust, and one I do not give lightly, if ever.
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I find it amazing that many people who mock faith have even more ridiculous beliefs than their religious counterparts. 1) UFO’s – Sure the universe is huge but where is the one shred of evidence that there is even bacteria out there? 2) Psychics – Still waiting for that “Psychic Wins The Lottery” headline.
3) CO2 is driving Global Warming – There has always been warming and cooling periods throughout the Earths history, long before man arrived. How does doubling, tripling or quadrupling CO2, which makes up 0.035% of our atmosphere do anything to warm the climate?
With beliefs like this Atheists and Agnostics are hardly in a position to call anyone naive.
October 2nd, 2008 at 5:37 pm
I think I am right and you are not
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm
the babushka lady … that aint no lady
its obviously Hitler out to seek his revenge
and the thing hes holdn is a bottle of wiskey … its very stressful bein an ass!
October 2nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm
and since when did jesus have massive tenticles comn out of his head!?!?
look at the cloth WHAT THE HELL? cant be hair … can it?
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:45 am
To the Supreme Being and Jon Ho. Your kind of remarks are not necessary. There is some of us that enjoy some peoples comments and how there minds work on the above subjects. If you can not say anyting intelligent please stay of the sight.
October 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 am
dude, this site is full of people who love to have a good debate, but that kind of shit is not acceptable here. thats not debate, you have made an idiot of yourself.
October 3rd, 2008 at 1:37 am
aww im sorry i forgot to actually state what i thought
the Shroud of Turin isnt a fake how could people way back then fake something like that not to metion why. Why would they want to it might be jesus might not be but there is no way it could be fake science sez so
oh and sory for the whole hitler and jesus havn tenticles thing totally uncalled for i respect thoz who belive
October 4th, 2008 at 1:51 am
Rose: I don’t think the ocean can fit in your pocket. Great article by the way,(I know this is the wrong place to post this but) I hope you make a fourth.
October 4th, 2008 at 9:45 am
Jamie:
I would normally send this in a private email, but I think a public “Thank You” is in order here.
I’m well aware of you’re of firm stance against censorship, mine is just as strong, but I agree with you on this.
Thank you for making this list a more pleasant place for those of us who are trying to have an honest debate.
October 7th, 2008 at 11:00 am
The point of my thoughts wasn’t whether John Jr. was cremated, but rather why did the Kennedy family go back out to the crash site AFTER THE BODIES WERE SUPPOSEDLY RECOVERED and have a family ceremony. The actions of the family makes me think that their bodies were not recovered, but was staged for Americans to think John Jr’s. body was recovered.
ANY THOUGHTS?
October 8th, 2008 at 5:58 am
Gears,
On the point of thought. Even some animals return to the spot
where there had been death maybe that is why humans do it. In the case of the Kennedy family maybe they needed to say a final good-bye.
PS. To The Supreme Being’s Master I am not a dude….
October 9th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
As an art student who graduated with a BFA, I critiqued the shroud from an art history standpoint. It is a painting and the artist was unfamiliar with human proportion. For instance, the forehead is too short when comparing the length from the chin to the nose tip and the nose tip to the eyebrows. Those two lengths are the same but the eyebrow to the hairline is severely shortened.
Next, the arms are too long for the hands to be crossed over the groin area. Anybody can try it; only a creature with long ape-like arms would be able to cross the hands in the position they are found on the shroud. These are not human proportions. If you digitally move the arms to be straight at the sides, you will see the hands extend almost past the knee caps.
October 10th, 2008 at 9:17 am
323. Doug, you might or might not have a BFA, but you have your body proportions wrong.
When I lie flat and fold my arms as they are folded on the shroud , I easily cover my groin.
I’ve seen, and handled, the original film taken during the scientific inquiry into the shrouds authenticity.
I also have a BFA in art (Photography), with many post grad hours to my credit, but funny thing, while my Art studies touched on normal anatomical parameters, it didn’t go into depth, like say, if I was studying to be a physician.
Did yours?
As I look around me, one thing I notice is the remarkable difference in body type from one person to the next, not to mention one ethnic group to the next. Do Zulu have the same body proportions as the Inuit? Do the Swedes have the same body proportions as the Pygmy?
And those are just absurd swings of difference. All you really have to do is walk down the street of any city, and you’ll see an amazing range of body types, arm lengths, forehead heights, eye separations, cheekbone heights, brow bone extension, earlobe length and on and on and on…
And no, I do not believe in the shroud. Your argument was just absurd.
October 15th, 2008 at 2:38 am
Sorry.
The shroud of turin is a fake because jesus didnt exist or if he did was some wandering nut preacher.
Either way its either a fake shroud of some poor dead guy or just a bit of cloth of some poor dead guy whos tomb has been raided. Maybe its some old bit of cloth thats been sitting on a statue for years.But a special magical cloth from a deity it is not.
Religious people should be seen and not heard, they tend to be fanatical and dangerous and humanly immoral and will believe anything even made up stuff if it justifies their religious egos and predudice.
October 15th, 2008 at 7:11 am
TO: I think therefore
I like how you use facts to support what you say. HA!
October 15th, 2008 at 8:22 am
325. I think therefore I don’t have to spell properly or use proper sentence structure.
October 15th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Im sorry about sentence structure and spelling
I went to a catholic school and spelling wasn’t as important as buggering students and beating us up and filling our lives with fear and hate etc etc etc etc.
As to facts I didnt think facts were of any issue to those with faith.
October 15th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
I went to 13 years of Catholic school, and not only can I spell just about anything, I can parse a sentence in a trice.
What’s your next excuse?
October 15th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Well, well, aren’t you just full of excuses “I think therefore”!
That is very ignorant to say that just because you believe in God means you don’t believe in facts.
October 19th, 2008 at 12:04 am
good and exellent
October 19th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
“I went to 13 years of Catholic school, and not only can I spell just about anything, I can parse a sentence in a trice.
What’s your next excuse?”
I don’t need any excuses, however I’ve figured out something about you. So you’re a motherfcker who’s taught in a Catholic school for 13 fcking years. I can only imagine how many children you must have f*cked up by now. Now don’t come up with the “excuse” that you haven’t ever been teaching and fuc*ing students in a Catholic school. Hope you aren’t fuc*ing up your own children now. Even better, I hope you’ve no children and never have any. But if you’ve, God saves them!!!
October 19th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
OI …. I didnt write that last entry.
get your own name mate !
October 19th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
I think therefore -
please read http://listverse.com/comment-faq
let’s play nice children!
October 19th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
Identity theft everyone !!!!!!
October 19th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
I hope for your sake that wasn’t you. Whoever that was just showed how ignorant and foolish they are.
October 20th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
333. I think therefore: I believe you. I believe I know who it was.
October 21st, 2008 at 11:39 am
Post # 338 is not mine. I was not up at 4: 09 a.m. to post anything.
At 4:09 a.m. I am attached to breathing machines. I can’t get up to post anything.
October 21st, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Who do you think it is segue?
October 21st, 2008 at 4:00 pm
339. zxTIGERxz: Who do you think it is segue?
****
TIGER, I’m unwilling to make accusations in public without anything more than a hunch.
The post gave some pretty valid clues, but still, I’m not going to take the chance of being wrong, and naming an innocent person. I’m not like that.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:13 pm
I see, good point. Sorry, I thought you knew for sure who it was that’s all.
October 21st, 2008 at 4:27 pm
TIGER: I’m as close to sure as I can be, but without proof it remains a hunch (legally, you’d say it lacked sufficient proof to take to trial). Personally? Yeah, I know.
Legally, morally? Nu huh.
Even if I had proof, I wouldn’t say so here in public. I’d e.mail jfrater privately and tell him, presenting him with the proof and letting him take the lead.
Perhaps that’s what I have done.
The thing is, I won’t say one way or the other in public. That’s not fair.
October 21st, 2008 at 5:07 pm
Once again, good point. But that is none of my business.
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:22 am
343. zxTIGERxz: Once again, good point. But that is none of my business.
***
TIGER, if it’s none of your business, then get the hell out of here. This is the place for the intellectuals and not amateurs. So better get back to your position, okay? And that’s pretty fair.
Again, do I need to say that Post # 344 is not mine?
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:52 am
TIGER, obviously, 344 is not mine.
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:57 am
May I ask why you are playing this game?
October 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Have you noticed we’re getting off topic?
ATTENTION EVERYONE. PLEASE DO NOT STEAL SOMEONE ELSES IDENTITY TO GIVE THEM A BAD NAME OR JUST BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT CREATIVE ENOUGH TO MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!!!!
October 22nd, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Whoever 344 is why don’t you stop being a coward and get your own identity you pathetic piece of garbage?
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Jamie, Cyn, everyone! I think you all know me well enough by now to know that I would never post something like #344.
What surprises me is that he admits, at the end of the post, *NOT* to be me.
It’s weird. It’s like being stalked by someone with major guilt issues.
Ah, well, I’ve been through worse.
Just use your own name fella, okay?
I’m not going to be angry. Really. You’ve gotten my attention. Now share whatever it is you want to tell me, and lets be done with it. But no more using my name. Go back to your own.
NOW!
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm
@ the REAL segue, I don’t know you that well but you seem intelligent enough not to post such ridiculous comments. Whoever this is is just making his/herself look like a fool!
October 22nd, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Thank you,TIGER. I appreciate the support, particularly since the person masquerading as me has been the one attacking you.
Believe me, I’m mortified by this. I truly wish that whoever it is who’s doing this would just tell me what it is he wants.
Usually, though, they just want attention.
October 22nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm
No problem, I’m just tired of this kind of stuff, it happens on these types of websites all of the time! Pretty sad when you have to resort to identity theft to get attention online though.
October 22nd, 2008 at 8:52 pm
sorry but i don’t know of any way for people w/out adminstrative access to this site to prevent someone from ‘impersonating’ another user by using that username.
best i can suggest ..is to comment ..as has been done…clarify who is making the comment and refute any prior comments wrongly attributed.
frankly..
think its not only lame and immature to impersonate someone but extremely cowardly. and for what purpose? is your life that meaningless, insignificant, pointless and boring you have to resort to something so infantile?
seriously…
comment using your own username! or do not comment at all!!
again…
i’d suggest going to forums and using the PMs there to exchange emails if there are ever any disputes between commentors here. using comments on lists to resolve disputes or thrash out personal issues is not only inappropriate and against the rules…it takes away from the list, the other commentors and in general makes this place a lot less fun for everyone esle. so if you do have issues that are NOT list related…take it up in forums please.
these comments are representative of my own opinions NOT of this site…even tho i’m an admin here. just getting tired of weird shit going on in comments. so cool it. geesh!
October 22nd, 2008 at 8:56 pm
@ cyn THANK YOU!!! That is what I’m talking about!
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Can’t there be some automatic part of the comment posting procedure that prevents people from (re-)using a username that already exists? That is, if someone tires to post a message by the username “Cyn” and an email address that is not yours, they get a message saying “That username is taken. Please chose another one.”
October 22nd, 2008 at 10:10 pm
astraya -
well, if you register..maybe. i’m not sure of the technical aspects….defer to J on that.
also…too lazy to sign out to see if i can comment w/out registering or attempt to register under a different name etc…someone so motivated to try it…lemme know what happens.
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:10 am
353. Cyn: Maybe I’m misunderstanding you( I’m exhausted from lack of sleep and, as is usual, slightly befuddled by the amount of opiates required to make life livable) but I read your answer as if I am to blame for someone else using my name to gain attention.
Blaming me for the actions of whomever it is, is like blaming the house for the failure of the mortgage.
That it’s my attention they’re attempting to gain is an assumption on my part, and could be a mile off.
It could be general attention he/she/it wants.
I don’t know.
I thought I did, at first. Things changed. I’m clueless, and I resent the suggestion that I take an unknown someone to Forums to discuss heaven knows what.
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 am
No, I think she’s yelling at whomever took your pseudonym and calling them cowardly, lame, immature, etc. (which I agree, having been a victim). Although, it was a tad flattering underneath the visage of violation. It means you got somewhere enough that people had to copy you in order to get attention. Of course, I think of it more like if Amy Winehouse were to see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSTBCkarbYc
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 pm
I’ve studied about the Shroud of Turin for years. I’m not a scientist though but I have studied what the scientists say. I have come to my own opinion.
However, I will say that there is much disagreement among the experts so talking hatefully about people who believe that the Shroud is not a fake shows something more than a grasp of science.
As someone said earlier, whether the Shroud is a fake or not does not change what I believe. And if it were not a fake, it wouldn’t change the mind of people who do not believe either.
But I will say this: It’s not always true and there are always exceptions, but if you go back and look at the way people who do not believe in Jesus act compared to the ones who do, you will see a difference. Like I said, it doesn’t always hold true because some who claim to be Christian are not. But throughout my life and I’m up there in years, I have experienced the grace and love of Christian people and the sarcasm and hate from those who are not.
Of course, some will probably reply that they were treated badly by Christians so I will tell you this: If someone lives a life of consistent hate and treating others wrongly, they are not Christians.
Satan uses those people to make Christianity look bad. They go to every church and they show up on threads like this one and guess what: Those who want to be biased against Christians use them to support their own anti-Christ jargon. That way, in their own mind, they are excused from serving Christ. Simple as that.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:37 pm
segue & Cedestra
don’t think i was yelling at anyone
as for the comment itself…that was more rhetorical and not directed at anyone in particular.
if someone uses someone else’s username…the ‘real’ user should refute those comments by making comments themselves to clarify. if it gets really bad..then just re register under a different username.
atm – i do not know of any way for a commenter to protect that name…since we are not showing email addys or IPs (only admins see that). no idea how that glitch can be remedied either. leave that to J to figure out ..if its possible.
and i would suggest if anyone ever has an issue w/ me…they email me. comments are not the place to hash out issues.
cynlistverse@gmail.com
k?
October 24th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Comte de Saint Germain and the Mary Celeste don’t seem like the most ENTERTAINING mystery today, not saying they arn’t interesting. We need a list of “Top 10 Unsolved Mysteries of 2000s” Like up to date things. That’s just my opinion.
October 25th, 2008 at 7:48 am
#279 I think that the real “supreme being” would know that the “How” to which he were referring wasnt a question….and would further know the answer to #298’s question is still “3″ and has been since i was a kid…
Peace,
AT8FATES
October 26th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
the top ten unsolved mysteries were amazing …………… it really made me afraid
October 26th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
when i am still an elementary i was very interested in mysteries ………. i also find something within me but i cant explain it..i hope you can help me
October 30th, 2008 at 12:47 am
michelle silva, when kids get around the age of 13 or 14 they start going through a phase called puberty. Usually boys start to grow really tall really fast, and their voice gets lower. And Girls gain more weight on their hips and their body forms an hour glass formation.
for more information
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty
October 30th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Paulb, thanks for your advice but the info you have provided is total scrap. can someone else help me? Paulb, you please dont bother helping me and if you dont give it another try, i shall be very much grateful to you. hope you understand. once again, thank you very much.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:00 am
366. michelle silva: You give NO information to go on. No one can help you unless we understand what it is you need help with.
Please explain your fear, your problem, what is worrying you. Any of us would be glad to help, if only we knew what help was required.
November 1st, 2008 at 8:49 am
thanks to you too segue, but i dont need help from fools. yet if you want to help me, please dont make any further efforts to help me. hope you can understand at least that much.
November 1st, 2008 at 10:17 am
364. michelle silva: when i am still an elementary i was very interested in mysteries ………. i also find something within me but i cant explain it..i hope you can help me
**
365. Paulb: michelle silva, when kids get around the age of 13 or 14 they start going through a phase called puberty. Usually boys start to grow really tall really fast, and their voice gets lower. And Girls gain more weight on their hips and their body forms an hour glass formation.
for more information
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty
**
366. michelle silva: Paulb, thanks for your advice but the info you have provided is total scrap. can someone else help me? Paulb, you please dont bother helping me and if you dont give it another try, i shall be very much grateful to you. hope you understand. once again, thank you very much.
**
367. segue: michelle silva: You give NO information to go on. No one can help you unless we understand what it is you need help with.
Please explain your fear, your problem, what is worrying you. Any of us would be glad to help, if only we knew what help was required.
**
368. michelle silva: thanks to you too segue, but i dont need help from fools. yet if you want to help me, please dont make any further efforts to help me. hope you can understand at least that much.
****
Obviously, michelle silva, what you need is a mind reader.
November 2nd, 2008 at 3:07 am
hello everyone, just want to clarify that 368 is not actually my comment. its someone with same name as mine. so please dont misunderstand me to be that one.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:16 am
They got you, too?
I’m sorry.
I apologize for my post. The person who posted under your name also posted under mine. It’s a feeling of violation, I understand that.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Hi ,I was reading the cipher decryption of zodiac apart from the last 18 letters there are errors in spelling which i noticed in the decrypted message like”DANGEROUE ANAMAL”.
Is this an error on the decryption or part of the cipher?
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:31 pm
It amazes me that this identity theft crap is still going on, grow up people!
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:47 pm
The Shroud of Turin HAS been proven fake.
November 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 am
sick
November 3rd, 2008 at 3:01 pm
To Ric= Why don’t you post a link and prove what you said instead of just saying it WITHOUT facts?
November 4th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
its all right, segue. btw, it’s weird that someone’s playing games here, isnt it? whoever it is really arouses a kinda feeling of rage (though temporary until the real poster makes clarification that someone’s being using his/her identity) in one against another and thus has succeeded to some extent in his/her intention. such minds are also unsolved mysteries, what do you people feel? we dismiss them as sick but i feel they’re something more than just sick. but what? an unsolved mystery??
November 6th, 2008 at 9:30 am
its all right i guess i did`t find anything for my report.
that sucks i know right but it dosen`t mean this web site sucks so
later,
someone
November 6th, 2008 at 9:31 am
its all right i guess i did`t find anything for my report.
that sucks
November 6th, 2008 at 9:53 am
379. nothing & 380. nothing
Having trouble with short-term memory much?
November 7th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
I dont understnad why u have published this nonscence for anyways. this is bogus!
November 7th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
comment no. 369 and 370. can anyone please explain me what’s nothing talking about?
November 8th, 2008 at 1:45 am
Who cares what whoever that in is talking about.
November 8th, 2008 at 11:29 am
do you mean 379 and 380? Those are the only comments by “nothing” I could find recently.
November 9th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
and segue no. 368 its not my comment ………but im the one who no 363 ,364………..
November 9th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Where in the hell did you two learn to say those things?
Who told you to watch too much porn… better not let me catch you watching.
segue, you talk like you’re some god or something. Is this what you do for living? and Peter, always pray after masturbating… don’t listen to segue, he’s just a piece of shit!
November 10th, 2008 at 12:03 am
Iwanttobelieve (291):
He was pierced in the side by Saul (later called St. Paul)
Maybe you should start by wanting to read – the bible would be a good start. Jesus was speared by an unnamed Roman soldier.
November 10th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Peter, my mum is dead. Furthermore, I’m not a “he”.
You lose.
November 10th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
@seque,
387 wasn’t mine. Sorry about yout mother.
November 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
@ Selina
Now that I’m here:
‘Peter- I think that other people -non-christians- can have an “experience” with God…yes. But they can not, and I repeat, CAN NOT have a relationship with the Lord unless they first come to believe and know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.’
First of all, having an ‘experience’ means having a relationship, obviously. Secondly, repeating your conviction, or repeating it 10.000 times, doesn’t make it anything else than it is: telling others something you cannot know yourself.
I’ve read to many accounts and witnessed too many instances of divine love happening, to attach any value to statements like yours, apparantly founded on cultural or religious conditioning.
I tell you, anyone, I repeat, anyone, and I repeat again, anyone, I mean ANYONE, can have a conscious relationship with God.
November 10th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
Peter- I must have been confused or maybe I just took your question wrong, but when you asked me my opinion…i figured you wanted it. I didn’t really expect you to get so upset about it. And when you said “experience”…yea, I don’t have an “experience” with my husband every day and expect those “experiences” to make my marriage work. I have a ” relationship” with him. A relationship requires more than an experience…just as my relationship with God requires more than an experience. So that’s how i took your question to me…forgive me for messing that up. As far as my answer being based off of a “religious conditioning”…hmm, well…sure I have guidelines to my belief…as does EVERY religion…and most people have an experience with God due to their belief…most people who seek out that experience have some type of idea where to go or what to look for. But as i said before, in what I believe in…my belief and opinion is that Jesus was and is the Son of God…and that what He did and does for me…is very real and true. And due to the fact that I have an ongoing relationship with Him, He has shown me the truth in this world from the lies. Through His teaching, He is the only way. And that’s just what I believe in. I’m not trying to prove you wrong or convince you otherwise, but if you truly want to know God…then try to. Ask Him to show you the truth from the lies. If you truly want that, then He’ll do it…and if you don’t care, then that’s cool too. As i said earlier, i was just answering your your reply and question. No offense or disrespect intended.
November 11th, 2008 at 11:23 am
#390. Peter: @seque, 387 wasn’t mine. Sorry about yout mother.
****
Thank you.
I’m not surprised it wasn’t you. There is some sick joker who keeps on “borrowing” other people’s names with the seeming singular intention of poking fun at me, thereby making an ass of himself.
Next, he’ll probably “borrow” my name because I said something naughty about him. Just watch. Something totally out of character will be posted under my name.
I’m tired of it. I’m too ill, under too much medication for this to be an enjoyable “game”.
November 11th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
hi segue im the one who make the comment no.363, 364 last october 26 i just want to clarrify you that the thing i am talking about is not puberty ……366 , 368 is not my comment thank you for trying to help
November 12th, 2008 at 10:16 am
394. michelle silva: I’m just very sorry I couldn’t be of any help. I hope you find someone who can help you soon.
November 12th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Maybe a psychiatrist lol.
November 12th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
tnk u segue ………i look for someone to help me someday
November 13th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Truly engrossing!
November 16th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
zxTIGERxz, actually it’s you who needs a psychiatrist and believe me, you need it badly. and ya, this time it’s definitely me. you need help more than i need. hope you get it before it’s too late, or is it already??
November 16th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
zxTIGERxz, actually it’s you who needs a psychiatrist and believe me, you need one badly. you need help far more than me. i hope you get it before it’s too late, or is it already too late?? anyways, get well soon. and ya, this time it’s definitely me myself.
November 20th, 2008 at 2:34 am
The last Word of Zodiac killer looks like these when they are simply split:
EBEOR I ETEM ETH HPITI (BEFORE I MEET THE ‘HPITI’)
November 20th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Or, Before I meet the hip it.
Still makes no sense, but at least makes words.
November 21st, 2008 at 6:54 am
Jack the Ripper, according to the Metropolitan Police, was with 99.9% certainty a Polish, schizophrenic Jew called Kozminski. He was high on the list of suspects at the time and the Police Commissioner wrote in his notes that they believed it was him. The Police Commissioner’s grandson has published the notes subsequently. Most damning of all for Kozminski, was that he was arrested and the police wanted to charge him with the murders, but his friend (name I can’t remember) who told the police he knew it was him, refused to testify as Kozminski was a fellow Jew. He was institutionalised for his mental condition and the murders stopped immediately, as did the police funding to continue the investigation. This would have been highly irregular, as even Queen Victoria had become involved and wanted results from the Met Police. Why, if they didn’t have the culprit in some form of isolation, would they pack up half way through what was possibly the most sensational case ever in the UK? Kozminski was also known to hate women, particularly prostitutes and talked of killing them. This is all from memory, but a 6 or 8 part documentary can be found about this on youtube. I haven’t read all the comments but hope I’m not repeating someone else’s comments.
One more mystery of interest to some would be Spring Healed Jack. A very bizarre, interesting and again unsolved case.
November 21st, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Charles Fort, master of all things bizarre and coincidental, wrote comprehensively on Spring Heeled Jack.
He also wrote scads and scads on Jack the Ripper.
Although his writings are of interest, I have to warn: this was a man who spent his entire adult life with newspapers from all around the globe, a pair of scissors, and a pot of glue. He made things fit his own world-view.
That being said, I urge anyone who finds these things of interest, even, like me, to make fun of them, to find a second-hand copy of The Complete Works of Charles Fort through Amazon or Abe Books…you should be able to find a copy for about $1.00…and get many hours of entertainment out of the deal.
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:32 am
Why is the biggest mystery of all times NOT covered in these topics? How in the Seven Wonders Of the World did G.W. Bush become president of the United States Of America. You can not execute the mentally handi-capped in this country, but you can make the President. Oh, good grief.
November 22nd, 2008 at 8:51 am
Navydude, he’s out of our lives in 58 days. Stiff upper lip, chappie. He’s almost gone.
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:13 pm
@ ‘Navydude’ I think your the load your mom should have swallowed.
November 22nd, 2008 at 2:39 pm
The world is treating me bad… Mistery.
I’m the kind of guy, who never used to cry, the world is treatin’ me bad… Mistery!
I’ve lost her now for sure, I won’t see her no more, it’s gonna be a drag… Mistery!
I’ll remember all the little things we’ve done. Can’t she see she’ll always be the only one, only one.
Send her back to me, ’cause everyone can see. Without her I will be in mistery.
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
OK, I’m confused. What on earth do you mean?
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:35 pm
The Voynich Manuscript is fascinating. To me, the women illustrated look like they’re in various stages of pregnancy. May be the herbs drawn are intended for women with problems during pregnancy or birth?
The Count of St. Germain was featured in a series of entertaining novels written by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro. I recommend them. Very entertaining reading.
Thanks for putting together this list. It’s quite interesting.
November 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 am
Hi, I’m 16 and have just read your above articles. I have thoroughly studied many mysteries of the ancient world, such as Poriious and the Treasure of the Crauz. Two links above have caught my attention, The Zodiac Killer, and the Voynich Manuscript. I think that the Manuscript is decipherable, thanks to a book that has been passed on through generations of my family. The book is said to be thousands of years old but no one knows the origins of it.
My great great grandfather believed he had deciphered the first three pages and worked out the code but no-one knows where he kept his work.
I will keep you updated if anything arises.
November 23rd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
@zxTIGERxz Be glad YOUR mother did’nt swallow my load, or you wouldn’t have been born, you JERK-OFF piece of crap. There was absolutly no reason in the world for a comment like that. Go back to the youtube chat like all the rest of the uneducated moronic burdens of life. I bet you still live in your mommys house, and go into a rage if she doesn’t get the skid marks out of your pampers. You are just the type of person that should be RUN OVER on the information highway. Mindless comments like that one are DEffinatly not a mystery to anyone. You Are A piece of Crap, So go smoke your crack pipe, suck on your moms teet, and sponge off of her till your thirty nine, and stay off the computer. Ass hole!
November 23rd, 2008 at 5:25 pm
@Navydude
Considering YOUR the one coming on here talking about George Bush when this has nothing to do with him shows how laughably pathetic you are. I see I struck a nerve seeing all of those hateful comments with no facts to support them. Thank you for showing you intelligence!
November 24th, 2008 at 5:28 am
AH!, But no denial. You make one of the rudest comments on this web page, and now your trying to be a sophisticate? Why did you not comment on the moronic ramblings of the worst offender on this site?, zxTIGERxz. There are many wonderful mysteries on this planet, some are beautiful, some are bizzar in nature, and some are totally mind boggling. The most mind boggling one of all is the baby born with a coat hanger through his head. His mother nicked named him “zxTIGERxz”. poor zxTIGERxz never had any friends, because his mother always hung him in the closet. One day his mother(Wait a minute,zxTIGERxz could be a her, concidering that at birth, there was no dicernable penis to be found, So from now on , “zxTIGERxz” shall be called “IT”),anyway,one day his mother grew extremely weary of the sobbing and whinning from the closet that he shared with his brother who was born with no arms or legs.(His name was mat) So she reached into her crack fund, forgoing her usual daily fix, and bought It a new devise called a computer. This magic box came discounted from It’s mothers pimp. No one knows exactly where the magic computer was manufactured, but for ten dollars and four acts of falacio on the pimps dog, how could Its mother go wrong. Besides it kept It quiet,so she could earn her living in the bedroom of their trailer home.
Now this magic box had so transformed It from a mini-lightning rod, to a degenrate, whining piece of crap, who’s only purpose in life seems to be to insult every one on a web page, no matter the topic. It would exact Its revenge on the cold cruel world that left It hanging in that closet, and having to watch all his mothers cutomers, clean themselves on Its brother Mat. So I guess the “Nerve” that was struck was the very fact that now everyone on this site who reads this will NOW and forever more refer to zxTIGERxz as It. (ie. Oh there goes the poor coathanger kid, Don’t pay it any attention, it’s only It).To further illistrate, “It’s only It, It must be upset because Its mother used him as an antenna again last night. She is going to kick It out of the trailer,when they can no longer get reception, So you have to feel sorry for the mentally handicapped It, because, come Feb. ‘09, It is going to be homeless,because Its mother will no longer be able to use her circa 1974 T.V.” So everyone reading this, Every time IT makes a comment, just dimiss it by thinking “It’s only It”. Goodday It. Oh before I go, answer me this. How in the world is that the coathanger through your head is plastic? Please feel free to retort with some juvinile ramblings. I will just dismiss it as “It’s Only It”. That Ok With You It?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:10 am
@ tiger and navy
How about not wasting your own and everybody else’s time ?
November 24th, 2008 at 7:20 am
@Navydude
I must say I’m impressed with the fact that you took the time to write a whole two paragraphs about me!(Even though I read none of it.) I think you need to take a break from computers if your willing to write two paragraphs to try and win a pointless argument. Shall we continue?
November 24th, 2008 at 11:19 am
as long as It continues to make rude and offensive comments to everyones opinions,and comments, then I shall personally make it my lot in life to get It off this forum, so that each of us can freely express our opinions without the vulgar expressions of “The Coathanger Kid”, belittling them. as far as impressing It, that is not the pupose of this friction. Please refer to comment #407. I think It expressed Itself with the intelect that was afforded him,even though It is a coathanger kid. But I appologize to you Peter, and all the other “bloggers” (Except It), and hope that you realize that It is a travisty of our failing youth.
November 24th, 2008 at 11:29 am
whoa! can we chill on the nasty rhetoric please? geesh. innuendo and belitting comments can be just as offensive as cursing.
referring to a human being as ‘it’ ..i deem highly offensive.
November 24th, 2008 at 11:33 am
The question is: why will people stop posting meaningless and negative stuff ? Will they let themselves be sent away, bullied away or cursed away ? No. People stop doing things when they run out of steam.
Navydude and Tiger, like it or not, you are each other’s steam.
November 24th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Again, Cyn and peter. I refer you to comment #405, and then to comment #407, and tell me if my comment waranted a response like that one. As to The calling of zxtigerxz “It”, that is a reference to the term that the maniac in the movie “Silence Of The Lambs” called his victems that he felt not even worthy of the air that they breathed. You both are right in the respect that this is not the place for a “Fued”, however, As a retired Gulf war veteran, I was always taught to retaliate to attacks with equal or greater force. I will appologize to zxtigerxz for the term “It”, because he/she is a human being. Maybe not much of one, But I will RE-PARAPHRASE the the movie line to fit the situation zxtigerxz must put on the lotion.
November 24th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Navydude,
I looked at 405 and 407. The answer is: no, 407 is not an appropriate reaction.
So ?
Let’s face it, none of the stuff you and tiger wrote is in any way apropriate, uplifting, meaningful etc.
I’m sure the strategy you mention works fine in war. As a social code however it’s not very helpful. Nor christian. Or even nice. Nothing positive ever came out of negativity.
Kudo’s for apologising though. Would have been nicer if it wasn’t followed by ‘but not really’, but still.
OK enough preaching. All the best and thanks for your service as a trooper.
November 24th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
peter, It was Samual Butler who said “It hath been said that an unjust peace is to be preferred before a just war”. This I have always believed in. and so to zxtigerxz, recant, apologize for the comment, and assure the fine people of this forum that any further comments made by you will at least be tactful and not tastelessly rude and vulgar. Until then, I am retired and have not much else to do at times than to play games with self indulged crass people like you.
November 24th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
hello
November 24th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
this is to “navydude” and “tiger”. I searched quite a few comments, and only saw the one comment about Bush from “navydude”. It seems to me that the uncalled for attack on his first entry on this site from “tiger” was TOTALLY uncalled for. Maybe Navydude went a little too far, but as a Gulf war vet. also (Nurse in the Army) I can understand Navydudes point. Tiger is probably some kid who happened to come across this web site by accident, and saw that it will send responses and posts to his juvinile retoric, and decided to stick around. It is a shame though that navydude seems to be the one fighting the lone war on tigerisms. As for comment number 407, no one else stood up,so to speak, and told tiger that he was way out of line. Can one dismiss a bitting insect by ignoring it? Thank You navydude for your service, but please stop the slanderous and also rude comments to him. You are stooping to his level.
November 24th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
ok, ok..i get the ‘it reference’ now…still, damned chilling scene from a damned chilling movie to ref. anyway…
just calm down peoples. its just the internet not some tactical manuver on a battleground.
k?
and can we at least try to treat each other …i dunno. gimme a word that’ll work here..
*sigh*
November 24th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Holy crap! I leave for the weekend and look what happens, the identity thief has struck again! The disgusting comment about ugh “load” and every comment after that by this so called zxTIGERxz were not mine! This is getting ridiculous! My dad is a former U.S. Marine, the last thing I would do is insult Navydude. Sorry for this confusion but this is getting ridiculous!
November 24th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
zxTIGERxz & navydude -
having done some checking..
LOL @ both of ya’ll. get a room guyz.
November 24th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Will the real slim shady please stand up,please stand up. Unfortunatly, for me to even have a halfway intellegent conversation on this site has already been muddyed, and so , i am sorry that I did not get to share the fasinating topics of the unexplained mysteries of this world that I have had the priveledge of seeing some of the “seven wonders of the world” up close,personally. as I have always had a deep pasion for such topics as the Battery they found in stonee dating before the history of man, I must in all consiousness seperate from this forum due to the vulger and admittedly stupid comments made by me. anything further that I would state will still be stained from my previous comments. I appologize venomously to all for sullieing such a fine site as this one. If in the future, you happen to see navydude in another forum, please know that I will not repeat the same mistake. Goodbye all. navydude (Mark)
November 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Oh, let me explain 428, I know I wrote goodbyes, but I did not want to leave you with an unsolved mystery. That was actually my very good friend laura, who was actually a nurse in the army during the Gulf war. She happened upon this site that I left open, wrote her comment, and did not log herself off. Sorry for the mystery, Good luck all.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Many of the last 60-odd comments have been written by someone with very serious mental health problems.
They have been using different names to have an utterly schizophrenic conversation with themselves.
Whoever it is needs real and urgent psychiatric help.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
I actually somewhat enjoyed reading the dialogue between navydude and zxTIGERxz in the above posts. Cyn, I know you were doing your best, but is obvious that the commentators are in league. Peter, appreciate the efforts, but I think the above recourse was a spontaneous thing that happened between two posters or is just a stupid dialogue between a single poster. Cyn may be able to tell this from IP addresses.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
I take it no one read comment #326 oh well. By the way does anyone no if there is going to be another one of these lists?
November 25th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
i don’t routinely check IPs..just certain circumstances sometimes warrant further investigation. so no one need be paranoid about being tracked.
as for whatever the exchange was between whoever the varying personas on this list..think done is done and done moved on. or i hope so.
as for more mysteries lists…i betcha there will be!
November 25th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Here is comment #326
326. zxTIGERxz – October 15th, 2008 at 7:11 am
“TO: I think therefore
I like how you use facts to support what you say. HA!”
Not sure what his means but I post it to show how ridiculous this is.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
@shadow, sorry my mistake, comment 426 lol
November 26th, 2008 at 12:25 am
My in box is filling up with rubbish from this site.
I thought it was meant to be a serious place to exchange ideas!
I’m out.
November 26th, 2008 at 11:10 am
I have read the comments from all party’s. It is obviously whoever this zxtigrxz is, is using different screen names. Too bad. this seemed like a good site. There is always some juvinilistic character ruining sites like this. perhaps this site should stop sending e-mail responses, and the person(s)? will just go away because there would be no reminders.
November 26th, 2008 at 11:35 am
tell us what you think… [commenting faq link] then text box to type in your comment immediately followed by
box to click to notify me of followup comments via email
don’t click the box..no email
and i think..even on the email there is an option to discontinue
so its up to the commentor to either not receive emails or discontinue.
your choice …we’re not forcing it on ya.
November 27th, 2008 at 3:05 am
@zxnavylaurasegxz, you’ll be sent help ASAP.
@ everyone else, pls notice that I’ll soon be commenting using the nickname The REAL The REAL zxTIGERxz, since I’m soon going to claim that this comment is not from me.
November 27th, 2008 at 5:34 am
Tiger, you have a sense of humor ! (I knew you weren’t all bad)
November 27th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Can some one check the ip address of the first comment I posted on this article which is the real me because # 439 is NOT mine! Asshole!
November 27th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I have no idea if this is a new suggestion or not, so please bear with me…
I recently watched a documentary on the Shroud of Turin, and while I have no opinion of its veracity, I like one of the ideas put forth to explain the Shroud itself.
It is known that Joseph of Arimathea purchased a tomb near to the place where Jesus was crucified (but why would he do that if he lived so far away?). It is also thought that instead of giving water to Jesus while he was on the cross, he gave vinegar instead, or possibly a seditave. Regardless, Jesus “died”, and his body was given to Joseph. It is thought that Jesus was taken to this new, empty tomb while he was still alive. He was covered in honey and myrrh (I think) to prevent his wounds from being infected, and then he was covered in a cloth to stop insects from landing on him. Jesus was comatose for three days, and then he emerged and “returned from the dead”. It is then thought that he travelled west. This would match claims from various texts stating that Jesus travelled as far as India, maybe even further.
I am not a religious person myself, but I think that if this is true, it qualifies as a happy ending
December 2nd, 2008 at 1:56 pm
The REAL zxTIGERxz, who said that you’re supposed to comment always from the same PC? Either you̵