If you are British, or know a lot about Britain, you won’t be surprised by the misconceptions below. However, you may be even MORE surprised to learn that in some places these things are believed! If you believe all or any of these points, sorry, but you are mistaken – but fortunately listverse is here to correct things. Here they are, in no particular order:
Misconception: Britain is a country.
While “Britain” or “Great Britain” does refer to the general area, neither of them refers to a country. Britain is a general term for Wales, Scotland and England collectively, while The British Isles also includes Ireland (Northern and the Republic). England is most often incorrectly named in this way, and English people are often referred to as “British”. Northern Ireland is part of the “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” which differentiates between the part of Ireland that is governed by England (hence the suspension of the Northern Ireland government in 1972 and the Northern Ireland Assembly in 2002) from the Republic of Ireland which is a self-governing nation.
While calling an English person British is technically correct, it is quite unspecific in the same way that calling a Canadian person “North American” would be; only Britain is not a continent.
Misconception: British people drink beer warm or room temperature.
I myself have heard this said a number of times but I have yet to discover where it comes from. Walking into a British bar and ordering a beer any way but cold would raise eyebrows just like everywhere else.
In fact, the most popular lager beers in Britain tend to be of the “Extra Cold” variety, and this applies to most bitter beers and ales too! Nobody likes a warm beer, the British included.
Having said that, most Americans like their Beer super cold, so an English beer may appear to be warm in comparison, but it is still cold. Chilling beer too much can damage its flavor.
Misconception: British people have bad teeth.
This one is commonly referred to in comedy shows poking fun at Britain, but is believed by many to be hard fact.
While a percentage, just like any other country, will suffer from dental problems, the standard of oral hygiene is generally very high. In fact, the shortage of available NHS dentists is a constant issue in England. Just like anywhere else in the world, a person with bad teeth is considered the slightly gross exception, not the rule in Britain.
Misconception: “God Save The Queen” is the National Anthem of England.
That’s right, I said England, not Britain. GSTQ is the national anthem of Britain, but not England itself. Despite this, even English people will insist that the song is our national anthem. This is not the case. Wales has it’s own national anthem, as do Scotland and Northern Ireland. What sets England apart is not that its national anthem is applied to the whole of Britain too, but that it in fact does not even have an official national anthem at all!
So what happens when (for example) England plays against Scotland in a game of football? We can’t both use GSTQ for the opening, this isn’t a problem for Scotland who can bring out their own anthem, but England’s choice will vary. Common stand-ins for when GSTQ cannot be used (for whatever reason) are “Land Of Hope And Glory”, “I Vow To Thee My Country” or “Jerusalem”. All of which are popular contenders for becoming the official anthem. Sadly none of them are official, and neither is GSTQ, which is only official for Britain itself.
People may be interested to know that God Save The Queen is the official anthem of New Zealand which is one of the very countries in the world which has two anthems of equal status. New Zealand’s other anthem is God Defend New Zealand.
Misconception: The Queen is the ruler of Britain.
Did I hear you say “But she IS the ruler of England!”? Sorry, you’re still wrong. The monarchy has not had political power in Britain for a long time. Each British country has it’s own parliament and are ruled politically by their own Prime Minister.
While the monarchy does technically rule Britain, it does not have any power outside of ceremony. The Queen does not have power in Britain any more than she does in Canada and other commonwealth countries. All of these countries are technically “ruled” by the Queen, but she does not have power in any of them.
The British monarchy exists today mainly for ceremonial and tourist reasons.
Misconception: British people speak the “Queen’s English”.
Or to use the more common term, British people talk “posh”. Look at any representation of Britain from a foreign country and you will see British people speaking in a manner that is considered just as ridiculous to most of Britain. We all know what that sounds like, if not, take a look at Fry’s Holophonor tutor in Futurama. Know what I mean? Then read on.
This may come from the way in which English is generally written in Britain. It is always taught that you should write “properly” and use correct language in formal writing so that it is easier to understand when read. Despite this, British people rarely speak the way they write, myself included.
In reality, Britain has a wide variety of accents, some even bordering on dialects, the majority of which do not sound remotely like how British speech is presented in foreign media. To see some examples of this, I suggest watching some British television or British cinema. (NOT the news! Newsreaders are told to use Queens English so that they can be understood by all, this is even called “BBC English”).
Good examples are Trainspotting (Scottish accent – in the clip above – warning: clip contains bad language and drug use), 28 Days Later (Modern London and Manchester accents) and Sweeny Todd (Old London accent).
People who speak the way British people are commonly presented sound just as snooty and posh to British people.
Misconception: Britain has free universal healthcare.
Ahhh… The good ol’ NHS (National Health Service)! Sadly, as is commonly unknown to people outside of Britain, the NHS is not free, nor will it cover any illness or injury. The NHS is paid for through taxes and donations and will only provide certain approved services or treatments.
While it is true that emergency treatment is almost always free of charge, treatment for long-term illness or injury is almost always charged. Certain drugs will be provided for certain illnesses, but if your illness or the drugs and treatment you require is not on the “approved” list. You will not get it from the NHS. This is always a controversial issue in Britain.
The NHS is also not available to non-British citizens except in the case of emergency. Even then the emergency must have taken place within Britain.
Misconception: Scottish money is legal tender in the rest of Britain.
If you have ever attempted to use Scottish pounds sterling in England, Wales or Northern Ireland, you will know that many places will not accept it.
Scottish pounds sterling are not legal tender in all of Britain, and shops in outside of Scotland are not legally obliged to accept it. Banks outside of Scotland will accept it, but legally it is down to the manager’s discretion whether or not to accept it in any other location. What is the difference between Scottish pounds sterling and the pounds sterling used in the rest of Britain? Actually nothing. Aside from how it looks.
So why do many places outside of Scotland refuse to accept it? The most common reasons are that either they are not commonly seen and so are not recognised, or due to the idea that its design and the fact that most people outside of Scotland rarely see it make it easy to forge.
It may be frustrating if you come from Scotland for a trip around Britain, but there really is nothing to say that shopkeepers have to accept Scottish money, no matter how much you insist.
Misconception: It always rains in Britain.
When people think of Britain, we all tend to immediately think of bad weather. We see rain clouds, storms and bitter wind. General misery. However, compared with many other parts of the world, Britain enjoys comparatively pleasant weather!
During the winter the average temperature can become bitterly cold (between 0 and 6 degrees C), but the average summer temperature ranges between 15 and 23 degrees, often higher. Britain ranks a comfortable 46th in a chart of worldwide average rainfall, falling well behind such countries as New Zealand (29th) and even the USA (25th).
Why does Britain have a reputation for bad weather? Most likely because winters tend to be longer than summers in Britain, most artwork of Britain depicts the weather based on expectation and we all like to dwell on a period of bad weather, even if the weather is generally good.
Misconception: British people drink excessive amounts of tea.
There are many ways of looking at which regions drink the most tea, but whichever way you look at it; Britain is not the biggest tea-drinking region by a long way. Taking population into account, Britain ranks somewhere around 3rd worldwide, falling well behind Turkey and India. Depending on your source, China still sits above Britain in the tea-drinking league tables even when considering population.
Where does this notion come from? Well, it is true that Britain does drink a lot of tea, but it is far from the top. Britain actually drinks almost as much coffee as it does tea. This misconception may actually stem from a linguistic difference between us and other English speaking regions. In most places, the evening meal is referred to as “dinner” or “supper”. This is correct terminology in Britain too, but an evening meal is very often referred to as “tea”. So when a British person invites you round for tea, they are inviting you for a meal, not to just sit and drink tea, which is how some people imagine the situation. This is also true of the commonwealth nations, where “come for tea” usually means “come for the main evening meal”.
A British person will almost never invite you round solely to drink tea, although if you stop by it will commonly be offered. Tea is most often drunk after a meal at dessert, or after strenuous activity as another option to coffee.
Bonus Fact: I am British, and I never drink tea, I don’t like the taste. This isn’t uncommon either!






















April 15th, 2009 at 2:06 am
I always get number 10 mixed up. This was a neat list. Also for number one I thought Japan drank more.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:10 am
What a ridiculous list…….
April 15th, 2009 at 2:10 am
Great list, I never believed any of those apart from the weather =P.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:11 am
Have to point out a mistake in number 10 – Great Britain actually refers to the largest of the British Isles (great meaning large), so essentially mainland Britain. It does not therefore include Northern Ireland. Which is why they are sometimes collectively referred to as “Great Britain and Northern Ireland”.
Fab list otherwise – especially the bit about the bad teeth! I hate that rumour most of all!!! lol
April 15th, 2009 at 2:12 am
Yet another interesting list, but you for got about the misconception that all british food is bad, because it’s quite clearly not- only some of it is.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:13 am
aha im british and i have to say i love tea!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:14 am
Lol, i lived in London for 4 years, but some are still new to me. Nice list.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:16 am
5. Bill: I always thought that was for French food? I have a friend who lived in Ireland who states she loves getting food from Britain (as well as Ireland!). In fact when she starts in on that, I wish I could have some of it to try. America has crappy food, too.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:16 am
Not sure about the BNP propaganda on the GSTQ video! haha
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April 15th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Interesting list. The warm beer thing comes from the fact that most countires serve lager, which is dead and needs CO2 to pump it from the cellar. Real ale on the other hand contains live yeast and the fermentation process continues while it is in the pub cellar, giving it a natural fizziness. It shouldn’t be served too cold, or the fermentation stops and the beer can become cloudy. It shoud be served at 13C, which is warmer than most bottled beer from the fridge. So there is an element of truth.
Also, from my experience most beer on the continent is served colder…….
Didn’t know we don’t have an national anthem though!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Thank you for clearing up my fog upon these subjects, kutuup. Most notably , for me at least, the misconceptions regarding warm beer, God Save the Queen, and weather. A good read overall, and it might help me to avoid cultural faux pas in the future.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Oh, and i’d like to point out that hardly anyone drinks tea properly here (in England) anyway. Most people spoil a nice cuppa completely by putting milk into it. It’s something that annoys me no end
April 15th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Emm, Northern Ireland does not have a separate National Anthem but instead uses GSTQ (this is a massive issue at the football with sectarianism)
April 15th, 2009 at 2:20 am
Didn’t notice the BNP video – get that off here, please!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:20 am
no-one drinks tea as a dessert….who researches these lists?? ha ha. crazy
April 15th, 2009 at 2:20 am
List item #5: “Phht, Jog on you stonkin great git!”
/cockney
Good list.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Number 3 is especially bad when you come from the Isle of Man like myself
not to do with scottish notes, but with the actual Manx (people from the Isle of Man) Bank notes, you cannot use these anywhere in the UK without getting very funny looks or done for forgery
we make do with getting them all exchanged before a trip to the mainland, pain in the neck i must add
April 15th, 2009 at 2:23 am
could you not find a version of the national anthem on youtube that wasnt used by the BNP im sure you know who they are and how unbelievably racist they are
April 15th, 2009 at 2:24 am
What is the bnp? I added the video and have no idea what it means aside from the music.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:25 am
Great list but maybe you should have mentioned something about the UK cos from general experience no one outside of great britain seems to know what that is. My friend went to America and some woman asked him where he was from and he said the united kingdom, she then said ‘wow! You speak such good English!’ LOL
April 15th, 2009 at 2:29 am
Okay – I have changed the God Save The Queen video.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:29 am
@ jfrater
the BNP is a political party within the United Kingdom which has very high anti immigration rules along with anti-Islamic and anti-homosexual beliefs, they’re considered to be exceedingly racist and freely admit this fact
April 15th, 2009 at 2:29 am
I think the Scottish money thing is a bit misleading. Scottish banknotes ARE legal tender throughout the UK – but, like any offer to purchase (regardless of currency), the store can legally refuse to accept the offer. This also applies to Northern Ireland which also has its own banknotes.
As a Scot living in England for many years, I’ve never had a problem with this.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:29 am
oh and the BNP is the British national party which pretty much everyone is Britain hates because they are racist and just… ugh!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Avi: Yes, London. You know: fish, chips, cup ‘o tea, bad food, worse weather, Mary fucking Poppins… LONDON!
Customs official: Anything to declare?
Avi: Yeah. Don’t go to England.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:31 am
10. spot on if real ale is served below 8c it has a haze on it. So by some standards this is warm john smiths extra cold is not beer and i defy anyone who says it is. As for the scottish currency that is correct most business will not accept it but here is the strange part no where on ENGLISH currency does it say sterling which is the currency not pounds strange eh.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:32 am
Sivart (travis): please discontinue the stupidity – you have been annoying on every list so far. I am a tolerant person but my tolerance is limited.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:32 am
there the british national party a political party with rather racist views who play on the fact of being proud of being british to promote racial hatred .
April 15th, 2009 at 2:33 am
Nice list, we have family that lives in Bristol and they send us a parcel every now and again with biscuits and sweets tastes much better than what we get here in the RSA.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:33 am
im sure it’ll be better explained on wiki like with better grammar than mine
April 15th, 2009 at 2:34 am
i dont care about britain!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:35 am
I live in Scotland but when I return to London I quite often have a bit of trouble with Scottish notes. the problem is that people unfamiliar with the notes have a harder time telling if they’re counterfeit. Apparently shouting “They’re legal tender you’ve got to accept them” doesn’t always work. I once got refused by a barmaid who didn’t even recognise them. She had to get the manager to confirm what they were.
@JFrater – fortunately the BNP have a very SMALL following…..
April 15th, 2009 at 2:35 am
I didn’t know the tea=supper=dinner bit! Clears up quite a bit and also makes sense that tea is more than just a drink. After all for some dates, “would you like to come in for coffee?” often means more than just coffee
April 15th, 2009 at 2:37 am
23. Scottish currency is NOT legal tender in any country than scotland it is a promise to pay between the scottish banks and english banks that can be withdrawn at any time and whilst people can take them to a bank to exchange if business does it the banks can charge.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:37 am
@ jfrater : sorry just thought it was funny!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:38 am
I know it should be obvious but the more I read about britian the more similarities there are with australia. Espcially the tea one! Interestesting list just added that bit more incite!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:42 am
It would have been better to have a video of England fans singing the nation anthem before a football match, than a bunch of whispy old farts on Songs of Praise, tbh.
Good list, though none came as a surprise. As an Xbox Live gamer, I’m too familiar with the torrents of abuse from mostly Americans – “go brush your teeth” and “isn’t it jolly, what?” – when beating them in competition.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:43 am
I think Irish people are far more well known as tea drinkers than British people. It’s pretty much a social norm to be offered tea in Ireland if you go to someone’s house…
Living beside Britain this list was quite amusing to find out what people think about them, some rather ridiculous. I’m tempted to collab on an Irish list!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:43 am
The tea/dinner lunch/dinner thing is something that is definitely from the North-South divide. I’m aware that the correct terminology is ‘lunch’ when referring to the mid-day meal and ‘dinner’ when referring to the evening meal but coming from Northumberland it’s ‘dinner’ and ‘tea’ for me! I think that’s the case in most northern counties.
Anyway, why did we have ‘dinner ladies’ and ‘dinner halls’ at school is it wasn’t dinner and tea?! hehe
April 15th, 2009 at 2:44 am
nice list. I live in South Africa and believe me we have our fair share of misconceptions with regards to our country. I’ve met tourists who thought we had lions roaming the streets and lived in tents. Also, sometimes people will think that you get mugged and beaten up around every corner in South Africa. We do have high crime statistics yes but it’s not nearly as bad as some people might think.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:45 am
Hey where’s my watch?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:47 am
Erm, the monarchy still does have legal power. And it could theoretically choose to exercise it at any point and, for example, permanently dissolve parliament.
Also the tea thing. I respectfully disagree – it is the be all and the end all and anyone who lives in England (especially the South) will tell you that
April 15th, 2009 at 2:53 am
the last line of #4 is wrong. Ironic considering this is a list about misconceptions.
The NHS is available to ALL British residents in the same capacity (even those who are not British citizens). I guess what you meant (giving you the benefit of the doubt) is that the NHS is not available to non-British residents
April 15th, 2009 at 2:56 am
When I was teaching in Korea I found that Korean (the language) and Koreans (the people) use the same word to refer to “England” and “The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland”. I had to explain many times.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:57 am
I moved to to Scotland a couple of years ago and found the weather lovely. The days can be lovely and sunny like today or pissing it down with rain. At least its a variety and I now wear ‘jumpers’ in the middle of summer and sleep with the window open in Feb.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:58 am
I´m originally from Bristol and have been living in spain for the last few months so this list was extremely interesting for me! I recently went to a fruit and vegetable market with a spanish friend and she said to me “I bet you´ve never seen anything like this before!” and when I asked her what she meant she said that in england, all our fruit and vegetables are in packets and tins! so there are some really strange misconceptions about Britain!
April 15th, 2009 at 2:59 am
My town in southern England has it’s own currency: the Lewes Pound…
It’s completely pointless.
I can’t believe some people actually believe these…
April 15th, 2009 at 3:05 am
My hubby is ‘British’ and I’ve learned practically most of the list from having moved to be with him.
Bristolian is definitely … interesting to listen to, but thankfully the hubby doesn’t have a thick accent at all (which he’s surprised to hear from both me and my sister). It can be an exercise of patience and will to understand some of the other accents I come across. I always get embarrassed to have to ask for someone to repeat themselves when everyone else understands them just fine.
Hubby hates the weather here really, it does always seem like there’s a giant carpet of grey looming over the city, but when it’s sunny, it’s absotively gorgeous.
And tea did confuse me at first, since I still tend to call the evening meal dinner.
Best things I’ve discovered while out here? Victoria Sponge, Jammy Dodgers, Jaffa Cakes, Millie’s Cookies (yeah, I know.. they’re all desserts…)
Took me a while to get used to Chips/Crisps, however ^^
April 15th, 2009 at 3:09 am
Yeah bristolian is really quite hard to understand to outsiders. For example I always say “where´s that to?” to mean where is it? and I never knew that it wasn´t correct english untill a few months ago.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:14 am
As has already been mentioned, number 10 is incorrect. I’m from Northern Ireland, as many here know, and it is not part of Britain or Great Britain. Hence why your UK passport says “The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.”
Number 4 is wrong. The National Health Service is free at the point of treatment. Exactly the same as any other person around the world who has health insurance. The difference in the UK is that you *have* to pay in to your “health insurance” if you can afford it. However, the NHS IS truly free, as it is a social safety net where the wealthy support the poor. I don’t think anyone is naive enough to think it is actually free. Properly functioning states cannot simply create money to pay for services. Inflation much?
Number 6 is wrong. It states that each “country” (should say region) of Britain has its own parliament. This is wrong. There are only two parliaments in the UK. The UK parliament in Westminster, and the Scottish Parliament. Northern Ireland and Wales simply have a national assembly, while England has nothing. The powers that these representatives hold are devolved anyway, and are therefore maintained on “good behaviour only”, hence the suspension of the Northern Ireland government in 1972 and the Northern Ireland Assembly in 2002.
Number 3 is wrong. This states that bank managers are at their own discretion as to whether to accept bank notes from issuers other than the Bank of England. Nope. BANKS MUST accept notes from *any* official producer in the UK. This is because Northern Irish, Scottish and Jersey/Guernsey/Isle of Man notes are known as “promisory notes”. The banks that have printed these notes have put deposits in the Bank of England worth the same amount as the notes they print. However, SHOPKEEPERS are not legally obliged to accept ANY notes in the UK. This is because the Pound Sterling is a trust-based currency. Therefore, if a shopkeeper believes there is sufficient reason to warrant them not accepting it as a payment, they can ask a debt to be settled through another means (typically historically gold bullion).
Please take down this list. It’s misleading and erroneous.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:19 am
#37- Lorcs.
As an English girl (with good teeth) born and bred and now living in Ireland I have to agree! The Irish drink tea by the bucket load! Much more than I’ve ever seen in England. The kettle boils that much in my grandmothers house you have to bring a change of clothes and something to constantly towel yourself down! Steam to rival any sauna! lol! And don’t get me started on the ham-blinking-sandwiches!
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April 15th, 2009 at 3:20 am
@Ryan
Geez….I haven’t even done anything yet somehow I feel guilty of something after reading that……
April 15th, 2009 at 3:24 am
Ryan: you seem to have a strange definition of free – just because the “rich” (read anyone not suckling the public tit) pay, doesn’t mean it is free – it means bludgers get it free but decent working citizens pay for it via tax.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:26 am
@ Donna
And the teeth thing? Such a lie! I only know one person with bad teeth! hahaha I’m glad that was cleared up!
And the ham sandwiches? my god I hate ham, don’t even get me started! i do love the bucket loads of biscuits though, Irish people and their tea and biscuits, haha.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:29 am
@ Lorca
Love it too!!! Six stone heavier since movin here but the sugar buzz is ace!
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April 15th, 2009 at 3:33 am
I did not know people believed this stuff. That is hilarious. You lot should hear a geordie accent.
Type “Byker Grove” into youtube and you’ll hear a brilliant example.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:37 am
#15 Phil “no-one drinks tea as a dessert….who researches these lists?? ha ha. crazy”
Well no, no one actually drinks them as a dessert but a lot a people will drink it after a meal, myself included. I wouldn’t call it a dessert though. If you’ve ever been to a restaurant in Britain, after the meal (including dessert) you’ll often be asked if you want a tea or coffee. It used to always annoy me when I was a child having a family meal out because my parents and aunt and uncle would always get a tea or coffee and take forever drinking it while I sat there bored out of my mind haha.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:40 am
So Britain is not a nation, but still has a national anthem? That’s an interesting quirk between #10 and #7
April 15th, 2009 at 3:43 am
It does rain a lot in England, but the weather seems to change so fast out there that’s it not a constant rain. It seems to rain frequently, but for a short duration. Also, the rain isn’t as heavy as I’m used to.
Also, British food is exactly bad… it’s just bland. Even things that are supposed to have lots of flavors are bland. Obviously this isn’t every restaurant ever, but I find a lot more bleh food here than I did in the US.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:46 am
Ryan – further to my previous comment:
NOTE: This says that the issuing bank must accept it – it doesn’t say the Bank of England or any retailer must.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:49 am
Oh – and on the British Food thing – the best food I have ever eaten was in England and Scotland. They care about their produce and that is what makes for good food: good produce. Having said that, English cafes serve crap food because they just want to make a buck. If you have money, the best food in the world at present is in England. Caveat: because the English are damned good at cooking to French methods
April 15th, 2009 at 3:50 am
On the same lines as the British thing, something which really annoys me is when someone non-British automatically refers to Britain and England. A few times people have known I’m British and said something along the lines of “Oh, so you’re from England” and I’m not, I’m Scottish. If they just weren’t sure where in Britain I was from (fairly hard considering I’m from Orkney which is almost as far North as you can go. This means I have a fairly distinctive accent, but not broad Orcadian thank god). The problem is when I say I’m from a Scotland, some of these people have asked me, “isn’t Scotland a part of England?” and I’m just like, no, it’s not. It seems to be a fairly common misconception though, either that or I just keep meeting really dumb people.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:53 am
polecat – we English have a habit of swapping British and English too. Something that for teh sake of my health I had to learn not to do pretty quickly when I moved to Aberdeen
April 15th, 2009 at 3:55 am
i hate the queen.
I’m sure shes lovely but my dad pays for her to live like the proverbial queen and its a waste really.
OK, she brings tourism but that does nothing but fund stupid new attractions (the London eye for example)and MP’s alcoholism.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:56 am
From the movie Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels:
At the customs
- Anything to declare ?
- Yeah ! Don’t go to England !
April 15th, 2009 at 3:58 am
talk about misconceptions, I once received a letter addressed thus:
“Republic of Ireland,
Great Britain”
HELLO!? lol
Now tell me you Scots get annoyed being considered English? haha. I’m kidding but really…
April 15th, 2009 at 4:01 am
Good list. There are misconceptions about every country and it is nice to see some of them get cleared up.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:02 am
Lorcs: I feel your pain – that would be liked getting a letter addressed to “New Zealand, Australia” which would really upset me considerably.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:03 am
haha very true!
April 15th, 2009 at 4:04 am
Teeeeeeeeeeeeea.
GIVE ME TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEA!
Twinnings English Breakfast tea please
April 15th, 2009 at 4:09 am
Good list. Number 5 could have been made much better by showing examples of accents that are less well known outside of the UK, possibly Scouse, Geordie, Bristol, or the Black Country in particular (little bit of bias there!!!)
April 15th, 2009 at 4:14 am
Just to let you know, its not technically ‘BBC English’. Its RP or received pronounciation.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:15 am
MonkeyBrains: Sorry – that stuff is commercial yuckiness
It is mostly made up of the fannings which is a horrific thought. If you don’t know what the fannings are, read this (it basically means the dust off the floor) and never buy Twinings again. For good tea, you want a nice first flush SFTGFOP1 darjeeling which, despite being grown in India, is a China tea. It is not called the Champagne of Teas for nothing
April 15th, 2009 at 4:15 am
to Polecat;
I’m in the U.S., and watch the Craig Ferguson Show nightly.
My daughter and I find it interesting (and amusing, too), when Craig has guest who mistakenly refers to him as English. You can see him pause, and then usually smirk, and you can tell he is trying to decide whether to waste valuable airtime to correct his guest’s uninformed reference.
Craig almost always lets the error go, but my daughter and I always have a verbal Uh ohhh, escape our lips.
He often plays “English” during the interview, like there’s no difference in the terminology. He has more patience and forgiveness than I think I would have if I were in his shoes.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:23 am
I had a visitor from the UK who insisted on placing my nice cold beer outside the fridge to get to room temperature. He really did not drink cold lager. Bizarre, especially since he is well-travelled: He should know better.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:25 am
Al: re-read the section on cold beer – I edited it.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:37 am
jfrater, but how do you feel about PG Tips? That’s our lazy tea of choice in my house.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:39 am
downhighway61: There is but one tea worth drinking. Darjeeling first flush SFTGFOP1
April 15th, 2009 at 4:51 am
Oouchan- First and foremost I want to wish you a Happy Birthday. Don’t ask how I know thjis but I just do so I hope you enjoy your day! Secondly I want to say its a great list mate! Kep it coming Listverse!
April 15th, 2009 at 5:06 am
thanks for the edit on the temp of beer jf. couldnt have put it better myself lol.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:09 am
As has already been pointed out there are several inaccuracies in this list. The worst of these is #6 which has two major errors.
1. The queen does still Rule Britain, and most commonwealth countries. The proof being, the first act of any new government is to receive their Ministerial Warrants from The Queen or her Representative (Governor General). Without these they cannot legally govern the country. Of course should the Queen withhold these it would create Britains greatest constitutional crisis since the Magna Carta.
2. As pointed out not every country in Britain has it’s own Parliament. And those that do do so at the whim of the Westminster Parliament. (Incidentally if Britain is not a country in it’s own right perhaps you can tell me why it has Parliamentarians from All of these independent countries in Westminster?) It would also make Gordon Brown’s position equivalent to the President of the USA AND Canada AND Mexico.
Cheers
Lee
April 15th, 2009 at 5:15 am
“Northern Ireland is part of the “United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland” which differentiates between the part of Ireland that is owned by England…”
Northern Ireland is OWNED by England?
Sorry I forgot, the UK is England, England is the UK and God is English.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:30 am
But on Top Gear it’s raining almost all the time, look how many “wet laps” they have.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:33 am
“During the winter the average temperature can become bitterly cold (between 0 and 6 degrees C)”
You think THAT’S bitterly cold?
Weaklings.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:34 am
(Great) Britain is England, Wales and Scotland only.
The United Kingdom consists of (Great) Britain and Northern Island.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:35 am
As a Scottish person, I find this list incredibly offensive, for a number of reasons. Firstly, English people are British and it is not inaccurate or vague to call them so. Secondly, Northern Ireland is not owned by England. Thirdly, Scotland’s national anthem, like the rest of Britain, is God Save The Queen. Flower of Scotland is commonly sung at sporting events because GSTQ is unpopular with many Scots. Fourthly, you’re right that managers have the right to turn down Scottish money… just as they have the right to turn down any other kind of currency. The only reasons for it to be turned down are ignorance and prejudice.
The other errors (notably about the Queen) are so glaring as to not warrant comment. I’m sure all of these points will have rightly been pointed out already, but consider this my vote of disgust at this list. All it does it show up one person’s ignorance. I mean, how can you write about misconceptions about Britain when you don’t even believe yourself to be British?
April 15th, 2009 at 5:42 am
65. Arnaud – April 15th, 2009 at 3:56 am
FACEPALM
April 15th, 2009 at 5:43 am
Since when is 0-6 degrees bitterly cold?!?! That’s what it is here in Alberta right now and we think it’s spring and nice out! Try -30 degrees celsius for bitterly cold..in December, January, February, or March.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:45 am
0 – 6 degrees, bitterly cold???
Where do you live mate, Cornwall?
April 15th, 2009 at 5:51 am
“During the winter the average temperature can become bitterly cold (between 0 and 6 degrees C)”
HAHAHA!!! BITTERLY cold. Try -35C sometime. So cold your nostrils freeze shut when you breathe in.
Interesting list. Always nice to learn something.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Jfrater,being the moderator of this very informative site, which i love, i thought you wouldn’t be as ignorant as to suggest that all people that receive free health care in Britain are ‘bludgers’. I am not British nor do i live in Britain, but I am following the world recession religiously. The jobs aren’t there for many people and they can’t afford to pay health care. They are no less decent then the ‘ Decent working people’you refer to.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:55 am
jfrater:
Yes, there are bludgers out there. But there are also decent folks who are just down on their luck. For example, having just been laid off. If you lose your job tomorrow, I sincerely hope that you live somewhere with national health care.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:58 am
In the introduction, it probably should have read “If you believe all or any of these points, sorry, but you are a numpty”, but that’s neither here nor there.
Anyway, about the teeth. I was outside a bar in New York one night a few years ago. Having a smoke and talking to a friend, when this young American girl came over and asked for a light. I obliged, and sure enough, she stuck around having a chat. A minute or two into the conversation, she notices the accent, and asks me where I from, so I tell her… she turns to me, serious look on her face, and says, “You’ve very nice teeth for an Irishman.”
I really didn’t want to just laugh in her face, so I put out my smoke and went back inside… and left my mate to deal with her.
Oh, and @66. I got a letter addressed the same once. Even the postman was laughing at it…
April 15th, 2009 at 6:02 am
Scottish notes are not legal tender ANYWHERE in the United Kingdom.
Why they even bother printing them I do not know.
It’s quite annoying having to take my Scottish money to get changed to English notes if I’m heading down south on holiday.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:03 am
92. Harry Kiester- Very Good Point made mate!
April 15th, 2009 at 6:07 am
you are wrong about number three. even though shops do not take scotish pounds in england, but its officially legal tender. shops may not acsept it because they dont know about it.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:08 am
It was regularly in the minuses this winter!
April 15th, 2009 at 6:22 am
My god people do get touchy don’t they? Lol. I’d hate to see what uproar an Irish list would cause… I’m not so tempted anymore… lol
April 15th, 2009 at 6:25 am
I lived in UK in the 60s and 70s and beer was served bloody warm. Don’t think you are old enough to remember. Want it cold, place it on the window sill over night. What bedsit had a fridge then and pubs served it up warm. You took it home from the off-licence warm and drank it warm.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:39 am
good old days eh?
April 15th, 2009 at 6:45 am
One of my roommates studied abroad in London for a semester. Some of the things she was most surprised about:
People don’t eat sandwiches with cheese? Like ham and cheese?
The workday is waaaaay more laid back than in the US
Things are expensive (I forget the exact amount but a load of laundry was exorbatant)
She said she did drink lots of tea…but she likes tea and drinks lots of it here, so I’m discounting that one.
Also, can someone explain “stones?” whats the conversion to pounds? I always forget that one
April 15th, 2009 at 6:51 am
13 pounds to a stone!
April 15th, 2009 at 6:58 am
I think David Letterman asked John Cleese why the food was so bad in England – Cleese didn’t skip a beat and calmly stated:
Well we have an empire to run, we can’t concern ourselves with something as trivial as food.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:59 am
NOOOOOOOOO Lorcs it is 14pounds to a stone
April 15th, 2009 at 6:59 am
“Queens English” is also called “Received Pronunciation”.
There you go, even more useless information!
Btw America, your chocolate sucks. Its like a chalky brown substance with a vague chocolate hint. Is real chocolate illegal in America?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:01 am
yeah Hershy bars what’s with those?! talk about tasteless…
April 15th, 2009 at 7:01 am
and since it’s 14 pounds to a stone and not 13 (which i illogically somehow thought…) i’m allowed no more! LOL
April 15th, 2009 at 7:03 am
not every member of the BNP is a racist. i hate people that generalise BNP members to be a white supremacist.
The BNP was formed to try to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country and working illegaly.
just like americans do not like illegal immigrants coming into their country but they are not racist they are just protecting their jobs like we do in the uk.
i am a member of the BNP and i attend meetings and i know that not every member of this party are racist. whilst some are, many are not. it is full of concerned citizens!!!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:08 am
79. Cybogen: Sorry dear, not my b-day! Doesn’t happen until October.
American chocolate is nothing compared to Belgium Chocolate. Nothing beats that.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Isn’t the BNP a whites only membership? Just if that’s the case then surely that’s racist. Might not be true but it’s just what i read in the Times!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:13 am
I disagree about the tea thing. I’m married to an Englishman. On the two occasion that we have lived in his home country, both of use imbibed far more tea that we ever did in the states. Seems like everywhere we went, people were giving us 2 things, bacon sandwiches and cups of tea. My first week in England, I noticed I had been very jumpy. It wasn’t until I realized that we had been drinking around 10 cups of black tea a day that I knew what the problem was.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:14 am
10: “Misconception: Britain is a country.”
7: “GSTQ is the national anthem of Britain, but not England itself.”
And you blokes wonder why the rest of the world is confused?? Wasn’t this list supposed to “clear things up” for us?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:20 am
robby57 – i am trying to understand why there needs to be a political party formed to stop something which is already defined as “illegal”. didnt know political parties were formed purely for law enforcement.
and while I would believe you if you say “not every member of this party are (is) racist”, the fact that you make such a statement despite being a member just shows how many ARE in fact racist
April 15th, 2009 at 7:21 am
With respect to the warm beer point, you are correct warm beer is never served but depending upon the type of beer there are recomended temperatures, similar to wine infact. Light hoppy beers (and lagers) should be served cold, 7-10C, whilst bitters and most middeling ales should be served cool, 11-14C. And the final group of beers (and in my opinion the best) there is some dispute, the dark ales/milds/old ales/porters and stouts, i preffentially drint these at room temperature, 15-18C, in order to apreciate the fuller flavors, but you wont find many pubs that serve the darker beers at a different temperature to any of the other beers on offer.
final point up north we say ‘come over for tea’ meaning a main evening meal, but down south they say ‘dinner’ (which is a midday meal up north).
April 15th, 2009 at 7:23 am
@jfrater:
“Ryan: you seem to have a strange definition of free – just because the “rich” (read anyone not suckling the public tit) pay, doesn’t mean it is free – it means bludgers get it free but decent working citizens pay for it via tax.”
I actually said it’s “free at the point of treatment” which is the same as any health insurance around the world. Think of it as if you’d already pre-paid, so you don’t have to pay anything when you go to the hospital. I also meant, that living in a socialist democracy it is also *completely* free as a safety net for those who cannot afford it in general.
Sorry if I was misleading or if I seemed a bit crazy in that post – it kind of pushed all the wrong buttons and the more I read the more irritated I got. Sorry guys!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:25 am
page89 – just because i am a member it does not make me racist. i have some very close non white friends who are english, who were born here and whos families have lived here for centuries. still i could be racist right?
but what i’m saying is, being a member does not make you racist.
and yes it is illegal but not much is being done about it. if the party were to come into power then more would be done to stop it as it would be top of the agenda.
and you do not have to be white to join the group. anybody can join.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I enjoyed reading this list, very informative. Haha, I’m going to invite my sister over for tea today.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Hate to break it to you robby57 but illegal immigrants aren’t stealing anybody’s job here in America. They’re doing shit jobs nobody in their right mind would do. Most of the time they are working in some very hazardous situations – and if they get injured or maimed they have very little recourse and consequently can’t work. We’ve got meat packing plants here in the midwest filled with these people. And most of the time they are scared, paranoid and can’t speak to anyone except to the person across the conveyor belt.
On a recent trip to California, I saw hundreds of these people out in a large field picking cabbages. Think about that for a moment. Your job is to walk down a row bending over and picking something up off the ground for next to nothing pay. Day after day after day after day. Who really wants to do that?
The easy thing to say is get the hell out of here – go back from where you came from. In the mean time there would be a monumental amount of shitty work that no one would ever apply for because it’s boring hard shift work that your average American would consider slave labor.
I’m not an advocate for illegal immigration for one fact, it’s ILLEGAL. But your assumption is just flat wrong.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Wow. I had no idea these misconceptions existed. I am not from nor have ever been to the British Isles.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:49 am
“the BNP is a political party within the United Kingdom which has very high anti immigration rules along with anti-Islamic and anti-homosexual beliefs, they’re considered to be exceedingly racist and freely admit this fact”
haha so the good guys then? You still have humans in Britain. Good to know.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:50 am
My theory of why England was always thought to be so rainy:
Coal. Back before coal was banned for household use, it was the major heater of homes and used in factories, pretty much from the start of the industrial revolution on. Coal puts out soot…a lot of it. Water droplets like soot, collect on it, then rain. Take an island nation (especially a city with a large river – London) and you’ll get rain and fog.
With the decline of coal, and thus less pollution, less rain and less fog.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:50 am
118. bucslim
Well said! Took the words right out of my mouth…or er…. the words out of the typing I was about to do on my keyboard…
April 15th, 2009 at 7:56 am
robby57: “The BNP was formed to try to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country and working illegaly.
just like americans do not like illegal immigrants coming into their country but they are not racist they are just protecting their jobs like we do in the uk.”
I’d just like to point out that a lot of Americans do consider the people who claim to just be protecting their jobs from illegal aliens to be racist. Not all Americans, but there is a good number of them. While there has not been a major party started to stop the illegal immigration like the BNP (though the Republican party in the US has taken up the job nicely), immigration is an incredibly heated topic in the US.
Also, as compared to a lot of countries, England does drink a lot of tea. Even if it is third on the list, that is still pretty high. I can count on one hand the number of Americans I know that drink tea (myself included, it is a habit I picked up while living in England). I’m going through all the English people I know (a good number), and I can’t think of any who do not drink tea at least a few times a week… of course they all live abroad now, so maybe they have adopted the “national drink” of England to remind them of home?
April 15th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Hey, GIMME THAT KEYBOARD GABI!!!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:59 am
bucslim: That’s not all true. Many of my friends would kill to have a job right now. Period. They want to work, (even shitty work) but illegals are getting the work because they will do it cheaper and won’t ask for health insurance. It’s the companies that are at fault and making it harder for those who want to work.
I don’t condone illegals either, but we need to enforce the law that it’s illegal or hire illegals and fine these companies. That way my friends can have a chance at finding jobs.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:03 am
msulli22 – Yeah, us Republicans are a bunch of skinhead douchebags bent on kicking out anyone who doesn’t look like us. I think that was part of McCain’s platform last year.
Ever hear of Robert Byrd? That moron was a grand cyclops. And a Democrat.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:08 am
oouchan – I don’t doubt what you said for a minute. Companies are partly to blame because they know illegals won’t cause a problem with pay, healthcare or bitch about dangerous work situations. I was speaking in generalities – because most of us wouldn’t consider picking fruit, trash collection or cutting meat with a band saw etc. a viable and exciting career option.
Being the manager, yes, but not actually doing the work.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Actually, it was “The Big Book of British Smiles” from that episode of “The Simpsons.”
April 15th, 2009 at 8:13 am
bucslim – sorry but you can’t vouch for all the americans and all the jobs that are being taken by immigrants. i can bet there are plenty of people looking for work but as oouchan said they cant get it cause the immigrants do it cheaper.
to be honest, you dont live in the uk so you cant really say much about the BNP.
an oil refinery near me has just hired a huge amount of immigrants and paid for them to come over here and work for cheap and as a result all the english workers have gone on strike.
this is what england deals with every day cause of immigrants getting our jobs.
and then they moan about our laws and want england to make laws specially for them and make exceptions.
my question to them is this: if you dont like our country or our laws then why come over here?
beggars cant be choosers.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:17 am
bucslim…You do have a point. Most that are out of work (and I do mean most) would prefer a much better job. It just comes down to what would somone do in order to survive? If I had to, I would work these crappy jobs, just to put food on my table.
I live in Arizona, so the illegals are at my doorstep. It’s much more “at home” for me because I see it everyday. Thankfully, the company that I work for doesn’t hire illegals. In fact, when that law went into place, we were one of the first to start background checks to make sure we had proof of citizenship. All those wishing to seek employment with us need to prove this before we will hire them. I am proud of that fact.
I just hope the situation changes soon with other companies.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:22 am
I’ve heard all of these and never believed any of them, probably due to growing up in Europe.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:23 am
I bet none of you knew this:
Britans flag is not official, and has never been!
No prosecution has ever passed to make it legal.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:25 am
@downhighway61: I’m American living in the US (I think we live near each other right?), and I LOVE PG Tips. I have a decaf and a caf version just so I can drink it anytime a craving comes along. I didn’t start drinking warm tea regularly until I came to England, but it may be because I’ve traveled in the rest of Europe as well.
@jfrater: please don’t hate me for the statement above, but I really do love it.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:25 am
haha I’m dumb. Should read UK not US.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:26 am
I’ll own up to believing the warm beer myth. Glad it’s not true (for any future travelling).
April 15th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Actually, oouchan, the work bucslim’s implying is grunt work like field laborer, dishwasher…the most bottom rung of jobs because it requires little to no formal skill. There are still plenty of those if your friends truly are willing to work anything. Regarding jobs stolen because there are others who will work for cheaper…the real concern regarding that is from outsourcing jobs.
But I won’t deny that some businesses will opt for the cheaper route (illegal immigrant or not). I had a hell of a time finding a job recently. Two turned me down for being overqualified…’why pay for one knowledgeable employee when we can hire two or even three incompetent interns for the same price?’ This job I have now even made made some tentative overtures about that. “You have quite an impressive resume…We can’t pay much and this is a pretty far commute…” At least they were opening up the topic so I could feel free to say, I don’t care how much or how far, I just want an art job.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:29 am
After reading this list I feel more confused then ever. The list says one thing and then there are like five comments that each say something completely different. And I have been to England and Wales, twice! I guess I will just have to ask my aunt and uncle who lived there for nine years. As my Uncle always says.
Cheers Mate
April 15th, 2009 at 8:31 am
i was hoping to see some mention of muggles, galleons, sickles, and knuts. does the queen rules the magical community too, or does the Minister of Magic handle it?
i get all of my british/english info from HP!
the “coming around for tea” makes more sense now though
April 15th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Dammit bucslim! I’m typing on LV as fast as I can while I’m texting a few replies on the phone and again, you steal the words…out of the keyboard…under my fingertips (there really is no way to word this statement to sound as powerful as ‘words right out of my mouth’)
April 15th, 2009 at 8:31 am
robby57 – i do live in the UK but even if i didnt, your lack of logic would have been baffling to me.
First of all, BNP isnt just against “illegal” immigration, it is against immigration of any kind. They advocate providing incentives for immigrants, legal or otherwise, to return to their country. nothing wrong with that except BNP only recently adopted a view that this would be voluntary. before this change, BNP believed in forcing immigrants to go back.
By narrowing the discussion to only “illegal immigrants”, you are ignoring the other 95% of the party’s views which, in fact, are extremely racist
April 15th, 2009 at 8:32 am
and oh the reason why people people do come to “your country” anyway is because the BNP is not in power (most probably because of their unpopular policies) so it doesnt really matter what they think
April 15th, 2009 at 8:40 am
gabi319: They are willing to work at anything if it means a job. Just like you getting the response that you are over qualified, they are being turned down because they want health insurance. One friend of mine applied to help out at a restaurant doing menial work, but he was denied. 2 months later, that restaurant was closed down due to the amount of illegals they found working there…for pennies. As I said to bucslim, it just boils down to what someone will do for a job.
When companies continue to hire illegals they are pushing out natives who want work. The majority would prefer a better job, but others just want one, period. It’s just sad.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:41 am
I hate to break it to you guys who are arguing over being racist or not, you are all xenophobic. You dislike foreigners. Now wait don’t jump down my throat. Answer this first.
Do you believe that your country is the greatest in the world?
If you do that means that all other countries are lesser and therefore it’s citizens are lesser then you. Nationalism really just promotes prejudice.
Why do Englishmen or Americans deserve jobs more then these immigrants, illegal or not?
April 15th, 2009 at 8:41 am
I view this site everyday and this is one of the worst lists i have seen on here. All this list has done is add to the misconceptions about britain! Next time do your research before putting up a list!!
April 15th, 2009 at 8:44 am
gabi319:
might i suggest -
“stole the words right off of my keyboard”
“stole the words out from under my fingertips”
April 15th, 2009 at 8:49 am
ABrutalKind: As I have said in other posts on this site, I don’t believe America is the best…never have and never will. But that is not what this is about.
The word here is “illegal”. If you are illegal, then why should a country give you a job? You didn’t come here through the proper channels. You jumped a fence or came over on a boat and are not living here the way you should. If I tried that with another country I would be in jail or even killed.
If you go through the proper channels and get a work visa or whatever, then by all means, apply to your hearts content! Then you are no longer illegal.
Do you see the point that I am trying to make? It’s law, not a personal preference.
“Xenophobic”? That’s a little harsh. One the best moments of my life was going to Disneyland in California. Do you know how many people there are from different countries that go there in a single day? It’s amazing. I loved seeing that. The happiest place on earth where everyone is treated the same. Great place to be.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:49 am
I’m considering changing my screen name to Yogi Barracuda. I’m tired of people assuming I’m a British lawyer. Of course they’ll still mistake me for a lawyer, but one with good teeth.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:58 am
With regard to #8, there is some basis to the stereotype. It’s not that British people have inherently bad teeth, it’s that there is less social pressure to have cosmetically perfect teeth. British society is more willing to accept crooked, uneven, or discoloured teeth than is the case in America. Look at the number of celebrities in the UK with overbites, buck teeth, or otherwise imperfect teeth. None of them would get on TV in America! And don’t even get me started on the current fad for “teeth whitening” products in North America!
And the British may not drink as much tea as many Asians (who commonly take it alongside meals), but a “narsecuppatea” is still an essential daily item for most of them–although they do tend to ruin it with milk, as someone upstream already mentioned. Personally I like Twinings Irish Breakfast as my everyday tea, but I have a nice stash of organic Assam or Lapsang Souchong for weekends.
Oh, and regarding variations on the English accent, there are plenty of videos on YouTube where you can hear examples, such as Scouse, Brummy, Geordie, ect.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:02 am
I wasn’t aware of BBC English. News readers in the U.S. also have a generic accent that I think is referred to as the “Interstate” accent. Interstate refers to the network of highways that connects the lower 48 states. It is said that people who live closer to an Interstate highway, regardless of what region they reside, possess a common and uniform accent. On another note, I was born and bred in southern California (Ventura County), and one thing that bothers me is the stereotypical surfer/Jeff Spicoli accent. I don’t know anyone who talks like that and the only people I’ve encountered who speak like that are people from out of state who learned from watching too many movies.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Ha! “Bitterly cold” is apparently 0 degrees Celcius? Have you even heard of Canada?
Come visit Winnipeg in January and you’ll find out what bitterly cold really is. Bring a toque, your ears freeze pretty fast when its MINUS 40 Celcius.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Interesting list, kutuup. Interesting posts, everybody.
Having had a mum who was Australian, and having lived there as a child, some of these items actually brought back memories…
Tea was a big deal in our house. We always had tea, and it was served with every meal. Bushings Tea. Mum gave it to me in a bottle when I was too young to drink it from a cup! And it was the beverage she put in my school thermos until one of the nuns caught me out and sent home a note to say a growing child required milk.
Australians are the ones with bad teeth. Bad teeth and a total mistrust of dentists.
kutuup, I think, apart from the weather one, were you to substitute Australia for Britain in most of your examples above, you’d actually be right-on.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:05 am
buc
“msulli22 – Yeah, us Republicans are a bunch of skinhead douchebags bent on kicking out anyone who doesn’t look like us. I think that was part of McCain’s platform last year.”
my god I love you more with each passing day.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:08 am
143. ABrutalKind – “Nationalism really just promotes prejudice.”
Actually that is jingoism (Thanks Maggot!). And just as oouchan said these people didn’t go through the legal channels. There are some ammoral perks to it seeing as they pay some taxes (alright, mostly just sales tax) without reaping most government benefits of those taxes, but in the long run, it makes things far more messier. What do they do with those who are citizens but with no qualifications who would want these jobs? How do you protect the illegal immigrants from work hazards when their illegal status provides them no health benefits or even a simple workers comp?
Then you deal with overpopulation. It’s gotten so bad where I am that counties have placed laws on the MAXIMUM number of residents within one household. May sound ridiculous and possibly bordering on unconstitutional but many single family homes were filled with 30 to 40 individuals. Of that number, a good half to two-thirds of whom are car owners to get to their jobs. It’s a nightmare getting through some of these streets. Residential homes, like any other building, are built to a certain occupancy load.
And then there’s the kids of illegal immigrants, who will often have a hard time getting their kids into some schools because of their status. Vaccinations require paperwork which they don’t have so forget about that. But vaccinations are required upon entering specific grade levels so forget about moving on in school.
There’s a lot of issues and unfortunately, I have very little time today
. In short, I’d say the issue is the high influx of illegal immigrants to which the government is either ill-prepared or unwanting to handle.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Great list!
I actually got to visit London over this past Christmas and a lot of my misconceptions were cleared up. Although it was cold…very very cold. It didn’t rain once. Most people I met had very nice teeth, the beer was fantastic, and I rarely saw anyone drink tea.
Actually another misconception that was cleared up for me was that most Europeans dislike Americans, which is what I am, but everyone was very friendly. My clothing of choice got some strange looks, but everyone was still nice.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:28 am
robby57 – I didn’t say anything about the BNP. And your statement about how I can’t vouch for the entire US is true for you in the UK as well.
All I’m saying is I would never consider bending over and picking something up in the hot sun for 5 bucks an hour as a career. And I think I can safely say that the vast majority of Americans wouldn’t want to do that as well.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:29 am
callie – you know I’m a sucker for a tattooed chick in a pink flop eared hat.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:39 am
109. oouchan- Sorry about that! boy is my face red! I have been good at guessing peoples details most times. I thought I had you. Better brush up on my skills. LOL
April 15th, 2009 at 9:43 am
This is the best(most interesting anyway!) list I’ve seen on here in a while, and I don’t think it’s just because I’m British(English). I’d like to see the same sort of list about numerous countries/places.
Hope to see it soon!!!
:):):):):):)
April 15th, 2009 at 9:45 am
I know a lot of work goes into making any list and they are appreciated.Most lists have several things that have surprised me or that I didn’t know. But this list..Well,honestly I knew all this by the time I was a senior in high school–And there sure wasn’t anything special about me–I think most Americans already know most,if not all,of this.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:47 am
April 15th, 2009 at 9:48 am
157. Cybogen: That’s ok. As I said, it’s in October…right in the middle.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:54 am
We always had tea, and it was served with every meal. Bushings Tea.
segue – Bushells Tea, you mean, perhaps? It’s been a major brand downunder for decades.
When I’m in NZ I prefer Choysa, but here in London it’s Typhoo or Whittards Original. I drink gallons of tea each day (along with 2 or 3 cups of coffee)
April 15th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Wait a minute I had a Welsh dude as a neighbor and he could never understand why Americans thought the British used the metric system. So, why did you?
April 15th, 2009 at 10:13 am
JFrater–I think you were a little rough on Sivart–I’ve never read any of his other posts but I think you were a little over the top on this one.If the British are that thin-skinned maybe you shouldn’t have lists about your country.I can understand when people make light of tragedies such as the holocaust and such but other than that,I believe people should be able to speak their mind.And it appeared to me it was said in a light-hearted way.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:18 am
smithstar15….I have read his comments and they were horrible. From what I have seen, jfrater doesn’t ruffle easy, but this guy set him off. Just wanted to give you some history. It was really bad and I am glad he is being monitored.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:31 am
oouchan –Well,that one today seem to be said in a joking way and even if it wasn’t there was nothing wrong with it–But as you say,I haven’t read his other posts.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:39 am
smithstar15….for me…I thought the same as you. It wasn’t so bad, but I have a warped sense of humor so I can’t speak for others. Consider yourself lucky that you didn’t see his other posts.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Oh oh oh!!!
I have been waiting to do this.
“This list is too British”
Huh? How you like that.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Northern Ireland dosn’t have an anthem, nither God Save The Queen or The Soliders Song are officaly or National Anthem. GSTQ is the anthem of Great Britain not the UK and The Soilders Song is the anthem of the Rebublic of Ireland.
Also we defentaly dont speak “The Queens English”
April 15th, 2009 at 10:45 am
Nice idea for a list. Just one thing on number 5. You say “Scottish Accent” as if there is just one Scottish accent, but a Glaswegian accent is different from an Edibourgh accent is different from a Western Isle one etc.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Bucslim – I think I love you.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:56 am
My teacher almost gave me an F because I insisted that Scotland was a country.
Oh, and whoever thinks 0-6 celsius is cold has obviously never been to Sweden. Atleast not the northern parts. >.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:58 am
@ 163 We do technically use the metric system now, it’s a legal requirement that things are sold/advertised etc in metric units. However this is a relatively recent change and many people are used to the old Imperial units so some retailers use those alongside metric. Many people use Imperial units also day to day, in measuring or cooking and whatnot. However roadsigns use miles and yards for distance, speed limits are in miles per hour and cars are all fitted with mph speedos. I suspect this is largely due to the cost of changing it. So we’re not really metric users individually, but the country is. Or something.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Oh yeah, the pint of beer is another exception to the metric rules. I remember there was a little bit of consternation over that when the new laws came in…imagine it, ordering a “560ml(ish) of beer please”.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Also we defentaly dont speak “The Queens English”
InfeaNO – nor, evidently, do you spell it
April 15th, 2009 at 11:16 am
164. smithstar15
“JFrater–I think you were a little rough on Sivart”
Thats because he’s spelling his name backwards – go to site search and enter “Travis” and see what you find – it’s self explanitory
April 15th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Jolly good list!
I used to work in a call centre and British people were the best at telling me off. I would laugh out loud at them, just making them more angry and therefore more hilarious.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Regarding the status of Scottish banknotes…
They are most definitely not legal tender. And neither, in Scotland, are Bank of England banknotes; only (Royal Mint) coins are.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:38 am
@oochan
Maybe I was a little harsh. I just getting upset at talks like this. I just don’t understand the concept of legal and illegal people. I don’t see how anyone has a right to deny a person entry to a country, unless they are a danger to the country itself. Honestly I don’t even believe in the concept of countries. I should have explained myself better but was in a hurry. Probably just shouldn’t have gotten involved.
Also I am glad that you don’t think that the US is greatest country in the world.( I must have missed when you said that on other lists.) However I don’t know if I can agree that Disney World is the happiest place on earth. But I think that is because I am rabidly anti-consumerist and just plain don’t like disney and the idea that you can “buy” happiness
Anyway I sorry if I offended you I just got a little heated. I just feel like when ever people talk about illegal immigrants they are talking down to them, as if they are better then the immigrants when most of the time these immigrants are just trying to get a better life. Something that everyone of us desires and fights for.
Any who that is my rant for the day I shall go back to my hole the ground.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:39 am
I am English and have never managed to finish a cup of tea. I absolutely hate it!
April 15th, 2009 at 11:41 am
There are only two ways an immigrant can come to America, or almost any country for that matter, – legally or illegally – it’s as simple as that. There are laws that regulate immigration, and for good reason. A violation of those laws, or any law, results in a prescribed penalty. It takes great ignorance to criticize people for insisting that their own government enforce those laws.
There are methods to gain lawful entry, and even to pursue citizenship. I know dozens of people that have done just that – and quite easily – there’s just a couple drawbacks. First it takes a little more time and disciplined effort to follow the law than to sneak across the border in the middle of the night. Second, and most importantly, lawful entry and employment will result in a social security number and a requirement to truthfully disclose your wages, dependants, and to pay taxes to support the society you now enjoy. The society which drew you away from the poverty and persecutions of your home country.
I’m not against immigration – just criminal immigration.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Tex, agreed. But you are now on a government watchlist.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
171. Handrejka – April 15th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Bucslim – I think I love you.
Sure, you say that now, but will you still feel the same way when you find out I have backhair? (Tee Hee!)
April 15th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
ABrutalKind: I got from your post that you might not have known the difference. That are legal aliens and illegal aliens. It just depends on how they got here. You didn’t offend me, but if I was harsh, I’m sorry!
As for Disneyland…you are right. You can’t buy happiness. but….It comes from when you walk through the gate and see a smiling child who has just seen Mickey for the 1st time. I cried when I saw my daughters face. That (to me) is happiness.
TEX: Good post!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I’m sort of semi-wondering why an innocent, non-vulgar or offensive post of mine was deleted. I thought we were beyond that. And I know I’m willfully stepping over a line just asking the question.
I simply don’t understand how a completely benign comment needs to be deleted, or even paid much attention to. I went into voluntary non-comment mode for a couple of weeks because I DID peeve some people, now we’re deleting innocuous comments?
I’m not attacking anyone, just wondering. gabi said I was taking the words out of her mouth and I fake yelled to give me the keyboard. That’s worthy of deletion?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
PG tips, anyone?
You’re British, jfrater? Never would’ve guessed.
Anyway, I am American but my mother is from Tyneside and my father is from Hampshire, I think it’d be interesting to see a list contrasting areas of cultural emphasis in the north vs. the south. They were both raised in households with similar socio-economic situations, are roughly the same age and had the same sort of education and all that, but they have wildly different notions of what is normal and characteristically “English.” Also, obviously, their accents are nothing alike. My mom still has a thick Geordie accent, Americans usually think she is from Scotland. My dad, unfortunately, basically speaks the Queen’s English.
copperdragon-
Are you American then? My cousin in England told me that they release different versions of the HP books in the US. They take all of the “Britishisms” out. Exceedingly annoying. I’m not really a fan in general (I’m not NOT a fan, just haven’t really gotten into it). I have heard a few of them on tape, read by Stephen Fry. I’d suggest listening to them if you really want to get a feel of how they were originally written. Also, Potter zealots- please don’t attack me if I am misinformed, I’m just repeating what I heard.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
bucslim…it’s post 124…I can see it. Maybe its shy and wants to hide from you?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
are you kidding with this list? what a joke.
#9 is totally wrong in my experience. the vast majority of beers on tap at bars in England where room temperature(the exception being ciders and as mentioned, the few beers served extra cold, whatever that means).
April 15th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I swear it wasn’t there before – or I’m sniffing glue. Or a little of both.
Nevermind.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Dear British people:
Are you kidding us? Look how confusing and convoluted the names for your country–or non-country–are!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles_(terminology)
Not to mention that your queen is not really your ruler, and that you have a national anthem (about the queen who is not really your queen btw) but you say you’re not a country… It’s like you’re intentionally trying to confuse us.
Please stop it.
Sincerely,
The rest of the World
April 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
You’re British, jfrater? Never would’ve guessed.
Jamie is a New Zealander.
Admittedly, he does look British when he wears his flat cap, Barbour jacket and wellington boots…
April 15th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Oochan-
I do realize there is a difference between legal and illegal immigrants. My ancestors were legal immigrants. I just don’t believe in borders. I am just weird that way I guess. I don’t want to argue just giving my opinion. I enjoy talking to you. And I can understand happiness coming from the happiness of your children. I hope that when I have kids that they will be the source of joy in my life.
Peace and love to all
April 15th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
This list is riddled with mistakes, Great Britain is a country and the constituant areas are not countries as none of them are recognized by other countries and it is great britain that sits in the UN.
The queen is the head of state and ergo is the ruler of Britain, she has the power to make laws through orders in council and the power to block any and all laws coming out of parliament as all laws need royal assent, this gives the monarch absolute power.
Also i know people who like warm beer, but i agree this is not universal for the country.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
This has nothing to do with the list so much but I would like the opinion or input of any Brits on here.I’ve always been fascinated with King Arthur and his knights. I ,for one,believe he existed.Or at least I believe someone lived who this legend was based on.He may have not have had a magician named Merlin(although the Pharoahs had magicians,so why not)? I have read that when the Germanic tribes were rolling over Britain in the late 5th century/early 6th century they were stopped cold at some point in southwestern England–I have always believed that to have been Arthur–I’m sure you Brits have a much vaster knowledge of all this than a yank–But could I be on to something here? Or is it just foolish thinking on my part?
April 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
191. Kreachure
I agree, I used to think I had the British vs. English vs. Scotts vs. Irish vs. Great Britain vs. England vs. British Isles deal down.
Now I am positive I don’t understand.
April 15th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
162. kiwiboi :… Bushings Tea….segue – Bushells Tea, you mean, perhaps?
****
Of course! As soon as I saw the name typed in your post, I could see the bag! Thank you!
April 15th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
you think that 0-6 degrees celsius is bitterly cold?
…try moving to Canada
April 15th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Great Britain is a country and the constituant areas are not countries
Craig – then somebody needs to inform the Prime Minister :
http://www.number10.gov.uk/Page823
April 15th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
How is between 0 and 6 C bitterly cold? That would be considered tropical weather in Michigan during winter (this winter it got as low as -20C). Our summers are warm though, it is about 30 C on average.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Tricia, we sure do live near each other!
I have both decaf and regular PG Tips in my cabinet and a variety of loose leaf from Wittard & Chelsea (I think that’s the name of the company) from their store down in Cambridge.
Have you traveling through Europe because of living out here?
Recommend any place in particular? (we’ll probably make our way out to Aviano and Spangdalham or Ramstein just because it’s a cheap/free place to stay)
April 15th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
kiwiboi – internationaly they are not considered countries, there are no heads of state of england, wales, scotland and n.i they are little more than colonies.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
i’m english, i HATE tea. i used to live in newcastle, so i have a bit of geordie accent. its the most hostile accent i have ever heard, newcastle is the only place i know where “hello” can sound like your starting a fight.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Craig – I’m not trying to argue either way (though they are, if not “countries” in strictly official terms, definitely “constituent countries” of the UK). I was merely sharing No 10’s take on the matter.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I would just like to point out you contradicted yourself in 6, the misconseption is that the Queen is the ruler, then you state she is technically the ruler. The fact is she is the ruler but has no power, so its not really a misconseption, she stll rules.
Something that made me laugh was #2, how is 0 degrees bitterly cold. I live in Toronto, Canada and any year it doesn’t dip past -25 is strange. And were damn south in Canada you should go to some of the places up north.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
6twistedbiscuits – Geordie is ok (though somewhat weird until you get attuned). As a non-Brit who has lived in the UK for some years now, I would vote for Glaswegian as the most intimidating accent, Brummie as the ugliest, and a toss-up between broad Geordie and Jamie Carragher scouse as the most difficult to understand.
My kids have strong Sarf London accents, innit!
April 15th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
As to point 5 and how people speak, would my favorite sci-fi show, Red Dwarf, be a good example?
April 15th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
kiwiboi – i love the wegen accent. try having a pimple faced geordie chav who walks like he is carrying carpet rolls under his arms, legs all over the place come up to you and say “YAREET gawjus, Get yee coat, ah’m tekking yee hyem wimme” (you alright gorgeous, get your coat i’m taking you home with me)while leaning over you. scary! moving away from there is the best thing i ever did.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
slipstick – its not the best example, the accents arent strong because most people wouldnt understand them if they were. even byker grove was like listening to the queen compared to normal geordie speak.
April 15th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
slapstick – i forgot to add, i love red dwarf, i thought the new one they just had on tv was brilliant.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Well, I fot one liked this list. I´ll admit that I did (and still do) believe the rain thing just from personal experience. The four times I´ve visited London I got rain, rain, rain. Still a nice city though! Oh, and the tea thing too though that´s not necessarily a bad thing as I love the stuff!
Ok jfrater, I´m calling your bluff on the English food thing. It doesnt count to say that you use French methods, I´m talking authentic, local English dishes. The only one I can think of (hopefully I get this right) is Shepard´s Pie. It´s just gross. However, as you seem to take an avid interest in cuisine, you really should come to Peru. The food is truly to die for…
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ABrutalKind (143):
Well, I was going to go to town on you regarding the post but I see it has already been responded to. However, I really have to reiterate: the problem of illegal immigration is not about nationalism or racism… Countries need some sort of control not because of a “we´re better than you” mentality but because you need to consider population densities (make sure you have services available for everyone), enforce rules on employers so they dont take advantage of some (which harms not only those people but others who want to get their legal benefits), etc. Not to mention making sure you keep the really bad people out.
bucslim: on a similar note, I dont know if you can say that most of the jobs held by illegal immigrants are jobs no one else would want. Maybe you dont want to work picking cabbages under the sun for $5 an hour but other people might… Or maybe the solution is for employers to NOT pay $5 an hour and instead pay a competitive salary…
Did I ramble? Sorry…
April 15th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
“HAVE A CUP OF TEA”
(by my beloved) KINKS
Granny’s always ravin’ and rantin’
And she’s always puffin’ and pantin’,
And she’s always screaming and shouting,
And she’s always brewing up tea.
Grandpappy’s never late for his dinner,
Cos he loves his leg of beef
And he washes it down with a brandy,
And a fresh made cup of tea.
Chorus:
Have a cuppa tea, have a cuppa tea,
have a cuppa tea, have a cuppa tea,
Halleluja, halleluja, halleluja, Rosie Lea
Halleluja, halleluja, halleluja Rosie Lea.
If you feel a bit under the weather,
If you feel a little bit peeved,
Take granny’s stand-by potion
For any old cough or wheeze.
It’s a cure for hepatitis it’s a cure for chronic insomnia,
It’s a cure for tonsilitis and for water on the knee.
Chorus
Tea in the morning, tea in the evening, tea at supper
time,
You get tea when it’s raining, tea when it’s snowing.
Tea when the weather’s fine,
You get tea as a mid-day stimulant
You get tea with your afternoon tea
For any old ailment or disease
For Christ sake have a cuppa tea.
Chorus,
Whatever the situation whatever the race or creed,
Tea knows no segregation, no class nor pedigree
It knows no motivations, no sect or organisation,
It knows no one religion,
Nor political belief.
Chorus.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
153 gabi:
157 Cybogen: I have been good at guessing peoples details most times. I thought I had you. Better brush up on my skills.
Aka “stalking”.
164 Smithstar15, 165 oouchan: (re sivart/travis’ post) The worst part of it was that he stole a joke and used it as if it were his own (as exposed by Arnaud’s #65). Shameful. I vote for permanent banishment.
180 ABrutalKind: However I don’t know if I can agree that Disney World is the happiest place on earth. But I think that is because I am rabidly anti-consumerist and just plain don’t like disney and the idea that you can “buy” happiness
Eh it’s just a dumb slogan and I agree, they’re a bit over the top in commercialism. But really – you have *never* spent money on something that made you happy you did it? “rabidly anti-consumerist”…right…
Btw, I can’t access streaming media from the computer I am using, but I assume it’s a safe bet that the clip of God Save The Queen in item 7 is not the lovely rendition by John Lyndon and the boys?
April 15th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Ha… I had no idea GSTQ was our official anthem as well as GDNZ… Thought I’d finally caught you out, til the Ministry of Culture and Heritage confirmed it… Hmm.. I’m gobsmacked..
April 15th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
TEX (182):
Well said! And I´m not even from the States so I really dont have any reason to get all stirred up about it!
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bucslim (184):
WAY too much information…..
April 15th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
GTT – All true. My point is no one actually WANTS to do those drudgery jobs, but there is work to do. Some sort of combination of companies get the idea that they can pay shit for obviously boring, repetitive laborious or hazardous job, and a lot of people trying to make a better life for themselves. $5 bucks an hour won’t make a whole lot of us get off the couch, but where some of these people come from, that’s a good opportunity at a better life.
I don’t think a whole lot of Americans are clamoring to get out there and pick stuff off the ground whether it’s garbage or produce. Not when they can sling burgers for a few dollars more an hour. Some Americans might because of desperate circumstances, some just chuck the whole thing and go the welfare route.
Besides, companies know that if they start hiring Americans they can expect they’re going to have to pay more because we have avenues to MAKE them pay more. They’re looking for immigrants because they aren’t going to bitch about long hours, shitty conditions and low pay or if the forklift ripped off their big toe. If they do, the boss can point the INS their way.
I don’t know what the answer is, I just calls em like I sees em.
April 15th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
yes we speak proper queens english, everyone else is just common! lol
April 15th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Somerset accent is the worst i think, its so annoying. happily i think its dieing out.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
‘Scottish money’ is legal tender in the whole of the UK.
As is ‘Northern Irish’ money. Its’ only idiots in England that think this is not the case. The currency of the UK is Pounds Sterling. Money from both these countries is in that currency.
179. kiwiboi, you are INCREDIBLY wrong.
This list is a shambles.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Drew: you are wrong – so I guess this list was useful in that it at least exposed you to a debunking of a misconception that you vehemently believe.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Wow! Almost as controversial as “Christ-like figures”.
When I was in England (in August several years ago) it was cloudy almost every day, but there was very little rain. One of the finest days of my trip was the day I went to Cardiff. Then I crossed to France, and it was even cloudier there, and remained cloudy for most of my trip. The best day was my only day back in London, before I flew home.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Jamie: can you delete the first of those, and this?
April 15th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
@GTT
I guess that it just comes down to our differences in political views. I am philosophical anarchist, I don’t think that there should be any governments. Now obviously I know that it can’t happen and don’t support the methods used to get it there but I do adhere to the ideology. You see the reasons for these laws because you see the reason for government, I don’t. I don’t believe that any one has the right to restrict another’s rights, except when that person themself endangers someone’s rights. It is all very confusing but it makes sense to me.
I probably shouldn’t have said what I did, I kinda jumped into the conversation without any context of what my views in general are. This made my comment seem ignorant, uneducated and stupid. Sorry. I hope I don’t come off that way. I understand that immigration is need for all government, I was just applying my ideals, which would be no government, onto countries with governments. I just kinda put my foot in my mouth there. Sorry.
@Maggot
It is true I have enjoyed things that I have bought. But this is not true happiness, it is only shallow and last only as long as the product, if that. I despise money and belongings as they tend to obstruct people from seeing what really matters in life. I am not saying that people can’t live with property and money and find true happiness I just think that it is harder to do. There are always exceptions. If I was purely self seeking I wouldn’t be here I would be in a remote cabin in the mountains somewhere enjoying the gift of nature. But that is just me.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Does Viz magazine still exist?
“This whole global warming thing is nonsense. I live in Ipswich and it’s f**king freezing”.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
bucslim (217):
Exactly. So what you have now is a vicious cycle where illegal immigrants contribute to the illegality of employers and employer practices contribute to the illegal immigration problem…
You are ALWAYS going to have the drudgery jobs that no one really wants to do. What happenes when the first wave of II get to a point where they can aspire to more? Those jobs are still there so you get a second wave of illegals and then a third… How long do you think this population influx can be sustained until there is a total collapse?
April 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
GTT
(“Oh, I´ve been reading through the rest of your comments and they seem much nicer”… )
GTT left this for me on yesterday’s post,and I just want to say this: I really wish I had came back online last night and read this. I tossed and turned all night worrying about GTT’s opinion of me–But I’ll sleep a lot better tonight–You betcha–
April 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
ABrutalKind (224):
No problem! I´ve actually never met an anarchist before so you´ll have to excuse my curiosity…
- How exactly would your ideal world work?
- How do you determine where one person´s “rights” end and another person´s “rights” begins?
- We can see from experience that human beings transgress against each other, commonly called “crimes”. If there is no government to define the crime and enforce the punishment, how do you deal with transgressors?
Seriously, just honestly curious…
April 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
astraya: done.
April 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Someone said quite up that BNP were very racist.
I’d agree but why are they?
It’s like any other country looking out for their own.
As far as i knew it, they were supporting english people for england, like france do for france and so on.
Prove me wrong please
April 15th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
bucslim and GTT – i know next to nothing about what your taling about, so forgive me if this seems a silly question. what if people doing community service and prison inmated did the bad jobs no one wants?
April 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Flef – i dont know much, this is based on rumour but i heard they are also against disabled people
April 15th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Disabled in what way?
Disabled how?
This happens to be of high significance to me, and I truly want to know.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Sweeney. Sweeney Todd. Forgot an e there.
I drink excessive amounts of tea when I go to England. Lots and lots of cream tea. mmmmmmmmmmmmm
April 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I’m enjoying the responses to this list as much as the list itself- it is fun to see everyone’s national pride (British or otherwise) coming through in different ways, be it vouching for tea-drinking or being against illegal immigration.
bucslim: I didn’t mean anything by my comments about Republicans, though I admit there was just a tiny bit of dry humor in what I said. However, I think you are taking it a bit too far in saying that I even implied that all Republicans are a bunch of neo-nazi racists. I simply stated that Republicans are staunchly against illegal immigration, which is true. I did not mean for anyone to construe intolerance from my remarks.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
page89 – anybody can read up on wikipedia about the BNP, which is what you have probably done. but as a member and having friends in the BNP i can SAFELY say that you and many others are wrong about the BNP.
social desireability makes people curse the BNP when really they know nothing about it.
let me put this very simple for you. you are not a member so therefor you have no knowledge of the BNP apart from what you hear in the media and on websites etc.
and we all know what the media is capable of don’t we
April 15th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Flef – i couldn’t have said that any better. thankyou.
thats all the BNP is and this is going to sound very racist even though i am not BUT, one day british people are going to regret turning a blind eye to immigration.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
robby57 – pehaps you can clear up the misconceptions then – i hope i made clear enough what i said was RUMOUR. bear in mind that people arent stupid and will know that because you are a member you will want to make it sound good. so be honest. just some advice, not meaning to offend or aything.
segue – what i heard was disabled in any way. deaf, blind, wheelchair, anything. BUT THIS IS JUST A RUMOUR.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
As the author of this list, first let me say thank you for publishing it so quickly, and thanks for all your comments.
There does seem to be some controversy going on though which I feel I should clear up.
Yes, I made a mistake in there. When I said “GSTQ is the national anthem of Britain”, I meant to say “GSTQ is the national anthem of the United Kingdom.”
For people confused, this is because internationally the UK is recognized as a nation (still not a country though) and so it is treated as a single entity in certain areas. This is why it has a national anthem for the nation but the individual countries have their own (except for England).
Whoever has the power please feel free to correct that line.
As for the rest, I stand by my research (of which I did a LOT).
Thank you!
April 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
If you put a bunch of flags in front of a group of people and ask them to pick out the English flag, most of them will pick out the Union Jack. England’s flag is a white field with a red cross of St. George. We’ve done this in school several times in the last few years and you’d be surprised how many people don’t even know that England has their own flag.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Oh, and maybe “bitterly cold” was too strong a term, it does get very cold though. I guess we British are just soft
April 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Bert (150)
Have you even heard of Canada?
No, What’s That
Cheers
Lee
April 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
237. 6twistedbiscuits: Thank you for that. I looked up what I could and what you offered would seem to be accurate information. It would explain some things from my childhood, as well. Disability-wise it would probably exclude me anyway (as if I’d want to join their little group of haters).
April 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
THE BIG BOOK OF BRITISH SMILES…….(lol the Simpsons)
April 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
who cares? i respect the british people but i’m sure they have just as many stereo types about us as we have of them.
April 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Robby57
(108)The BNP was formed to try to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country and working illegaly.
Seems fine so far.
(129)an oil refinery near me has just hired a huge amount of immigrants and paid for them to come over here and work for cheap and as a result all the english workers have gone on strike.
No Mention of Illegal here.
(236)thats all the BNP is and this is going to sound very racist even though i am not BUT, one day british people are going to regret turning a blind eye to immigration.
True colours coming through? And yes that Does sound Racist to me.
(235)you are not a member so therefor you have no knowledge of the BNP apart from what you hear in the media and on websites etc.
and we all know what the media is capable of don’t we
As opposed to your objective POV?
Lee
April 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
robby (57)
(236 again)Flef – i couldn’t have said that any better.
What Flef actually said
Someone said quite up that BNP were very racist.
I’d agree but why are they?
Lee
April 15th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Re The Travis thing. I have missed most of his saying elsewhere (usually deleted before I get to the list) but this was merely a harmless lift of a quote from Snatch (not LSATSB). Something plenty of other people do on other lists.
And in this case a considerably better contribution than 2 or 31.
Cheers
Lee
April 15th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
From what i’ve read on the BNP website they are most deffinetly racist and they also stur up racial hatred. On another point about the BNP they support corpal punishment, which to me makes them sound rather facist.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
what!? no bad teeth, perpetual rain, posh, endless tea parties and no shitty food???… wow I didn’t know that… seriously. but it’s still always winter in Russia, isn’t it? and heck, I’m sure French people don’t wash themselves more than once in a month. but at least they make sexy time. all the time..
(seyecat)
..aaand just out of curiosity I asked auntie Google about some misconceptions about me mumland Dermany and the first search alone left me giggingly speechless… “No Speed Limit On The Autobahn”, “Ungroomed Women”, “Common Holocaust Denial”… well, Hasseltoff so far, my hypersocialist government has commanded me to watch for my bavarian panties and the dried out beer stains from my morning breakfast on them… maybe it fears a serious threat to the cuckoo mobile industry, whattdoeyeknow..
April 15th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Sorry, but I’m getting annoyed now, people seem to be under the impression that I suggested that Ireland is OWNED by England, at no point did I say anything of the sort and I challenge anyone to find any evidence to the contrary. Also, I am getting really frustrated with people saying that I don’t know the difference between British and English. Yes, it is correct to say that I am British, but saying that could equally mean I am Scottish or Welsh, not just English. BRITAIN is not a country, it is a region of the world that includes several countries.
Please stop treating me like a fool when I know very well what I am talking about.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
kutuup – England does not function independntly as a country and therefore is not and can not be a country, it is little more than a texas or a new york in the united kingdom
April 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
234. msulli22 – sorry got my radar up. Been taking it in the shorts for quite a while.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
You find 0-6 degrees 6 Celsius ‘bitterly cold’? As a Canadian, I find that funny.
Good list!
April 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Craig – England is a country, and functions independently as one, Texas and New York are countries, they are states or provinces of a country, just like how England has counties. I appreciate that you may not be from the UK and may not know this, but trust me; you are wrong about that.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
I mean “Texas and New York are NOT countries” lol whoops
April 15th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
I’m not from Britain, but I haven’t really heard of many of these.
Which I’m glad about. People have way too many misconceptions about where I live and it gets more then frustrating hearing it time and time again. So I don’t want to have a lot of misconceptions about other places either.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
kutuup…actually…Texas wishes it was a country.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I live in somerset… England is lessof a country than any of the other “countries” as it has no power to make its own laws, what you can not deny is that england is not a soverign state.
April 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
I think Texas used to be a country
April 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
texas was a country, know as the republic of texas whos president was called sam it was later annexed by the usa
April 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
The Republic of Texas was a sovereign nation in North America between the United States and Mexico that existed from 1836 to 1846. sams second name was houston and was president twice
, the stuff above was of the top of my head
April 15th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I was quite sure that most of those were indeed misconceptions, but you never know for sure. Someone should do a list of Common Texas Misconceptions… I would like the world to know that not all of us are cowboys. Hell, I don’t even own a pair of boots.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Oh crap that’s weird… I just now read the above “Texas” comments after I posted mine…
April 15th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
deepthinker: That would be a great list! I think this one is a fact: The Texas State Flag can be at the same height as the National Flag. It is the only one allowed to do this.
Can’t remember the reason, though.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
oouchan… I can’t believe you just posted that comment… I was just about to mention it… I think this site is reading my thoughts. The reason is because of the fact that Texas was once it’s own country.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
The most commonly British accents featured on foreign TV seems to not only be posh British, but Cockney.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Hi I’d just like to point out that I’m Irish and under no circumstances is the Republic of Ireland part of the “British Isles”. We are our own seperate country (and landmass). x
April 15th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
This list was pretty lame. Hope they get better.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Who cares.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Shite list!
April 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
oouchan–The reason is that after winning it’s freedom from Mexico,Texas was an independent republic before becoming a state–The only state to have been one–That’s why the Lone Star flag is allowed to fly at the same height as the Ensign (US Flag)
April 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
.about elderly people? great book
April 15th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
OOPs–I had not read deepthinkers post–He had already brought this fact out–
April 15th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Well,I know there are some interesting sights in England.
One everybody should see is The Arizona Bridge–This bridge was originally in Arizona,but was moved to London by King Eddreth The Onion in 1362.
April 15th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
So after I put all the work in to research all of this and write up this list to educate and entertain you guys, all a lot of you have to say is simply “That sucked” or “shite list”, thanks.
I don’t see any of you writing lists. Maybe you should try yourselves before criticizing someone who put a lot of effort in to keeping you entertained and debunking some misconceptions.
I had considered writing more lists for this site but if this is the type of response you get for your hard work then maybe it’s not worth it.
I hope you are all proud of yourselves, because all you’ve done is prove that doing something for other people (even when the points you make therein are FACT) is just not worth it.
Thank you to all the people who made real comments about this list, you’re the people I wrote it for, but the people who come along and criticize just for the sake of criticizing have convinced me not to do this again.
If you hoped to see more lists from me, you have them to thank that I feel this way.
Sorry to the people who actually enjoyed reading it.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
totally need common misconceptions about australia.
then i can send it to my friends who are transferring down here for half a year.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Don’t take it personally, Kutuup. I loved your list. I was one who was quite enlightened by your list. I thought all Brits drink tea and have bad teeth. You have to just write the list, love the list, submit the list, and let it go. You’re obviously good at it, so if you enjoy it, I would encourage you to write more! Lots more!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Thanks rushfan, maybe I did over-react a little, it’s just sometimes hard to swallow when people bash something you worked hard on, researched thoroughly and are proud of, you know?
I guess I just like to please everyone and when people respond badly I get kinda disheartened.
I probably will do more to be honest, it just came as a shock how controversial this one turned out to be lol.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
I think Crocodile Dundee pretty well dispelled all the misconceptions about Australia.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
kutuup (275):
HEY! That´s not fair… I enjoyed your list! Ignore the trolls and listen to the people with actual valid comments!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Actually, it is interesting… This list on the Brits was almost as controversial as the Christ-figures! Whoda thunk it?
(Sorry for the double post!)
April 15th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
@GTT
Thank you, I’ve actually got an idea for another list already, but it’s a secret
Thanks for your support!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
LOL – try going to CANADA sometime if you think 0-6 degrees is cold!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Kutupp ~ When I woke up Tuesday and saw my Jesus list had been published, I was so excited. Then the first few comments I read got me down, but then as the day progressed, I felt better. It can be emotionally draining if you’re emotionally invested in your lists (as we are) so you just have to be prepared.
I really liked your list, and you seem proud of it, so I would suggest you just keep at it! If you didn’t care, you wouldn’t bother doing it, right? So obviously, it matters what people think. But there’s a difference between people and trolls, as GTT said.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
279. smithstar15 ~ Dude, you’re funny.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
I agree. Don`t let the Bastards get to ya !
April 15th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Thanks Rushfan–I’m glad somebody appreciates me–You did a great list and so is this one by Kutuup–And I know they’re not easily compiled–
April 15th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
smithstar15 ~ YOU should write a list!
April 15th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Geez segue (151) your Mother gave you Tea when you were on the bottle!! Put it in your thermos for school!! I’ve never heard of that before and I think your experience was unique rather than particularly Australian.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
kutuup – ya can’t let it bother you man. I’ve written two lists myself and it ain’t easy! It took me a very long time to come up with my first (baseball pitchers) – the research was a serious drag. And I stuck around for 3-4 days to monitor the comments. I don’t think people who haven’t tried this really understand how difficult it is to come up with a good list and then put the work in to get it right. I think you should be proud of it and try it again- it obviously generated a lot of interest, and that’s why we’re all hanging around.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Holy Crap, Kutuup… you should be flattered that your list ruffled as many feathers as it did!
By all means make more lists… be proud of the responses whether good or bad.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Rushfan–Thanks,but I’m old and wore out and lazy and I wasn’t kidding about y’all doing these lists–That can’t be easy-It takes a lot of work-And all joking aside,I appreciate you guys who do it.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Yeah, that’s why I love ListVerse! Because a mom in Texas like me can write a list and it gets published on a cool website that people from all over the world can see and then we can all talk about it. How cool is that?! I’ve made some great friends on this site, especially in the forums. I’d like to once again encourage all of y’all to join the forum family.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Its does always rain london, shitty weak ass rain as well.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
kutuup – I was just finishing reading all the other comments before adding mine, and I was actually going to say pretty much the same thing you said in comment 275. I think your list was excellent. I learned a lot and found it very interesting. As a US citizen, I did hold a few of these misconceptions.
I would really love to see similar lists done about a lot of places. Australia, New Zealand, the USA, Russia, Germany, Brazil, China, India, France… just to name a few.
The people who complain should just be ignored unless they have a reasonable, valid point to make. Most of the long-time ListVersers are polite, intelligent and witty, and their comments are a joy to read. Then we get the trollz who are only out to stir up trouble. In between are many types of people, some of whom, hopefully, will join us in our ListVerse family. I consider you to be one of the latter – please keep writing lists and join us in the forums. I think you did an excellent job today.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Never heard the expression “Old London”. I am assuming this means Cockney but it’s very particular about which section of London that has this particular accent. And yes, there are as many accents in the U.K. as there are in the U.S. Or in Spain. Or in Russia. Et cetera.
It rarely rains in London, that’s true. And they drink as much coffee as tea, that’s true, too. But they drink more tea than Americans do, proportionately speaking, so that’s probably where the misconception of tea comes in. Then again, the tea they get is much nicer than ours. (Thank heavens for import shops.)
April 15th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Now. We need to make a top 10 misconceptions about America…..
I was only surprised at: 10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
P.S.
rushfan, i used to live in Jefferson City MO. Ahhh. I used to remember when i talked like that! But now, i have a californian (northern) accent. It is very different then a British accent (gotta stay on topic…..)
April 15th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Kutuup: I have been in the very same position so many times. The comments you have received here have been mostly good ones – try writing one that gets NO positive comments – it is hard to do but I have managed it
Fortunately for me I get to delete them if that happens though – and thankfully it doesn’t happen often. It can be extremely difficult to deal with the harsh comments but to be honest I think it has helped me to write better lists. So keep it up! Don’t be put off.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
275. kutuup: Don’t feel bad! You should have seen mine! I had the most silly list on this site. I have a wacky sense of humor (which many don’t get) so my list was in pure fun. Many didn’t like it because they didn’t get it and they didn’t learn anything. meh…oh well.
Keep up the good work.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Hey what’s with texas? i lived in San Antonio for 6 months and whenever i asked for rye toast at a restaraunt i kept getting the response, “is that like wheat?” No its not! It’s like… rye! I noticed this in Granbury, Dallas, and Fort Worth.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Jubbs–Another interesting list would be about southerners–I dare say there’s more misconceptions about the American south than any other area in the world.We’re all sitting on the porch chewing tobacco and holding a shotgun dressed in overalls and we eat grits 3 times a day.And we all married our first cousin–Well,I’ll have you know I DID NOT marry my first cousin–I married my second cousin.
April 15th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
With regards to comment 44.Lots of English people have the same word for the individual nations of great Britain…England.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
If this list does overtake the number of comments on the “Christ-like figures” list (only 40-ish to go), then someone can say “We’re more popular than Jesus now”!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
wow i never knew this things but no. 2 surprised me the most
April 15th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
What! Beer should be served at 7-10 degrees C? Whaddya want to do? Shave in it? In reality if it still flows its not too cold!
As for the weather: 0-6 degrees C isn’t just cold, it’s almost cold enough for beer and that’s freezing. Here in paradise (the north coast of NSW) cold is anything below 20 C
April 15th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Delightful list that served to encourage real interaction and exchange of ideas, clarify misunderstandings, and made me thirsty for a cuppa tea.
The stereotype of British appearance (bad teeth etc) I think stems from the expansion of media in the 1960s and 1970s, creating more exposure of cultural standards and stereotypes. While that happened, the British youth of the time were born and raised during periods of nutritional deprivation endemic to the WWII era and following decade. If Arnold Swarznegger was raised in Liverpool instead of Austria he would look more like Mr. Bean than the Mr Universe he became. You are what yo eat, you know.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Nice one astraya(304)! There are some very funny people on this site, keep it up folks!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
168 Scott: Right on brother!! (High 5)
April 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
I still don’t get the whole Britain, Scotland, England thing. I guess I’ll just have to look it up further. But it is a great thing to learn about bc I would hate to call a Scot a Brit mistakenly.
Bad teeth??? Think of Hugh Grant…oh that smile…
HAHA…I actually thought “yeah right, the old woman just sits there and waves!”
Well, I just always thought: island, so good warm sunny weather is due in the summer…and since I know where it is, I think of snow in the winter.
But how beautiful it must be to see the castle all snowy and crystal white…awwww…now I must add this description to my fairy tale wedding
I do like the idea of stopping for a midday tea. Even if it doesn’t involve tea, bc the sweets must be worth it. They look very VERY delicious!!!!
April 15th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
And to Kutuup: I have tried to make many lists. I just cant get there. Kudos to you for submitting one that is so “controversial.” If one of mine was submitted, I’d get 12-15 comments tops. Really. What can I write about? The top ten shortcuts in Algebra? Which kinds of bras fit the best? The best shampoo/conditioner to make your hair super soft? You get the picture. Be proud.
April 15th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Looks like some pretty good list to me.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
So Kutuup,
After receiving flak for saying Northern Ireland is OWNED by England, you edit your list and DENY, with venom, that you said it.
Are you 14yrs old?
Reflects badly on this site.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Most of these are not real misconceptions. For example, we all know that UKers don’t all have the “posh British” accent, it’s just a silly exaggeration. Sort of how everyone KNOWS that not every American is fat, but you still say we all are.
The health care one was news to me, mainly because I’ve heard Brits brag about their UHC. (Much like Canadians brag about theirs to Americans, but they’ll privately admit that their health care is disgraceful!)
Gotta disagree with the bad teeth thing.
Not all of you have bad teeth, but more so than most other developed nations.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
@GTT thanks for asking, most people just write me off as and anarchy as simple chaos, it is much more then that I would encourage you to research some for yourself
- How exactly would your ideal world work?
Ideally I would like it to just be a bunch of communities that are interdependent on each other and its members. However I ideal this is though it is not very feasible. So realistically I would my ideal is similar communities but within countries that have governments. My example of this come surprisingly from the Bible. In Acts 2:44_45, it states that all the believers lived in unity and there was no need among them. I want that to be possible in countries today. If you are interested in this check out The Simple Way in Philadelphia. This is a modern example of the situation in Acts.
- How do you determine where one person´s “rights” end and another person´s “rights” begins?
I think that obviously every person has commonly recognized rights, and they have a right to do what ever they choose as long as it doesn’t restrict someone elses rights. For example murder would violate someones right to live.
- We can see from experience that human beings transgress against each other, commonly called “crimes”. If there is no government to define the crime and enforce the punishment, how do you deal with transgressors?
Well I am constantly changing my stance on whether humans are inherently evil or good. Regardless of this I think that there are enough people that are sick and tired of our self centered culture and society that they would be more empathetic towards others. While I see a whole heck of a lot of people looking out only for themselves I see a lot of people caring for others. It may be a pipe dream but I would like to think that if our society and culture were changed that peoples selfishness would disappear. We are raised to only look after number one but if we were really taught to treat others as we would like to be treated then maybe my dream could come true. But I don’t think that can happen in such an extremely capitalistic country like the US. So if you have any more questions let me know. Hope this helps.
Peace and Love.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
I have been reading this site for over two years without having an account. Reading this list made me so angry I had to make an account just so I can say…THIS LIST IS SO DUMB/FLAWED. Are we in 7th grade??? Do we believe what we see in Austin Powers??? NO. I am pretty sure everyone knows that these things are misconceptions, and I must say that this is the worst list I have seen on this site in my entire time viewing it.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
315. ABrutalKind : It’s not “simple” chaos as you so eloquently put it, but with the complete disregard it takes towards the darker side of human nature it is a very dangerous idea. Much like most other political systems, at least with democracy things aren’t going to be perfect, sure, but they won’t be completely out of control either.
“I think that obviously every person has commonly recognized rights, and they have a right to do what ever they choose as long as it doesn’t restrict someone elses rights. For example murder would violate someones right to live.” I believe that you didn’t help clear that up at all, if someone does murder someone else, what happens to them? What if the community didn’t like the person that was killed? Can they let it slide? Sure, will they? Probably, is that fair?
By the way, Anarchists can’t freely draw on “common” rights – as “we” know them under democracy I assume – because what you propose doesn’t hold all of the same rights.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
I’ve got one for the misconceptions about Texas list.
It is the only state to have been an independent country.
Ever heard of Hawaii.
Cheers
Lee
April 15th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Oh yeah, actually commenting on the list itself for once I just wanted to add that the Queen does have power, quite a lot in fact. Australia needs Her graces to create or change laws, so don’t throw that miscoception around so lightly.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
I wanted to reveal some of the mystery behind the BNP, I had no idea who they are so I went to their website and read their mission statement, and I found this.
“The British National Party exists to secure a future for the indigenous peoples of these islands in the North Atlantic which have been our homeland for millennia.
We use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe.
The migrations of the Celts, Anglo-Saxons, Danes, Norse and closely related kindred peoples have been, over the past few thousands years, instrumental in defining the character of our family of nations.”
just a little racist.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
I enjoyed this list.
April 16th, 2009 at 12:05 am
‘Scottish money’ is legal tender in the whole of the UK. As is ‘Northern Irish’ money. Its’ only idiots in England that think this is not the case.
Drew – well, allow an “idiot in England” to put you straight :
Fact : No banknote – not even a Bank of England note – is legal tender in Scotland. Northern Irish money is also not legal tender. And if you choose not to believe me, here’s a link to this very information from the Bank of England :
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/about/faqs.htm#15
Judging by your name, I’m guessing you are Scottish? If that is the case, which your mindlessly insulting tone about the English would also suggest, allow me to provide an alternate link to a briefing paper provided by one of your own august institutions…the Scottish Parliament :
http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/research/briefings-03/sb03-51.pdf
179. kiwiboi, you are INCREDIBLY wrong.
You were saying…??
April 16th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Kutuup – If a list doesn’t get any negative comments it is probably because it is a very boring list. Any list that gets over 300 comments I would call a big success. I hope you decide to write more.
April 16th, 2009 at 12:18 am
271. smithstar15 and 318. k1w1taxi there was the repbulic of california albiet for only 25 days
April 16th, 2009 at 12:22 am
249. mansonego : Are the speed limits on the German autobahn? I always thought there was a recommended speed of 130 km/h, but no actual law about speed limit?
If it is a misconception, then I have broken the law a lot!
April 16th, 2009 at 12:24 am
324 – Signe – to my knowledge some areas are unrestricted others are not.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Good list overall, no great surprises.
Couple of points wrong however, now before going any further lets point out I am Scottish but a British Citizen so that should clear matters.
No10 The British are most often called English, just look at the Olympics when a medal is won by team GB. Used to almost always be refered to as English, a bit more PC now. People from overseas especialy Americans, I found tend to refer to everyone and every nation in the UK as English. Same when you travel overseas, I always point out I am Scottish.
Northern Ireland is or was governed from Westminister not England, think it may have devolution again and be governed from Stormont.
7 God save the Queen is a sign of alegiance to the Queen, as an ex soldier I had to sing or mumble to it to be honest. It was written by a Scot in fact and contains the notorious, verse 6 I think “Put down these rebelious Scots”. Rest looks true especialy the fact England does not have its own anthem.
5 did not go far enough, bordering on dialects, sure, but what about totaly seperate languages such as Gaelic (Scottish and Irish) written the same but spoken differently, and Welch. These are ancient Celtic languages while English is of Germanic roots, they have nothing to do with English, also Cornish and Manx, extinct now sadly in practice.
3 Scottish money best just to use it in Scotland although it is legal tender in the UK, managed to exchange it in India once but got a lower exchange rate, last time I made the mistake of not using Bank of England notes (bank founded by a Scottsman, Royal Bank of Scotland founded by an Englishman).
2 Not sure about average winter temperature but Northern Scotland is much colder going very rarely down to about -30.
The wind is the killer amongst the strongest in the world on average.
Just about a list in its own right this post.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:17 am
All the points on the list are 100% correct, but I would say its contents are 95% correct.
#10: I often refer to UNITED KINGDOM [of Great Britain and Northern Island] as a nation that is made up of four countries – England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain refers to the mainland comprising of England (including Isle of Wight and Isles of Scilly), Scotland (including Shetland, Orkney and the Hebrides) and Wales. UK excludes British overseas territories and very rarely includes the Crown Dependencies (i.e. Channel Islands and Isle of Man) even though they are “British”.
Everybody in the UK, including Northern Ireland (Éire)*, can be called “British” providing they are UK citizens.
The [disputed] word “British Isles” includes Republic of Ireland and only used in a geographical sense. It has nothing to do with government and politics.
“British Islands” refers to all in the British Isles excluding Éire.
*People born and living in Northern Ireland are usually eligible for both UK and Irish passports.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:37 am
#2: I believe the reason why people think that it always rains in Britain is because it can rain throughout the year whatever the season and that it comes unwanted at the most unexpected time. Despite the weather and what the calendar says, I think the seasons are as follows (approx):
Spring (mid-January to mid-June)
Summer (mid-June up to September)
Autumn (September up to December)
Winter (December to mid-January)
…roughly corresponds with the comprehensive school academic terms.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Despite tea originating in India, India comes at around 11 when it comes to countries drinking the most tea. And despite the tea drinking (in the popular style) originating in China, China are in 14th place.
Britain is at the top only after by Turkey.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:49 am
1# Tea time can also refer to the light late afternoon meal (usually tea and biscuits) that comes before dinner.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:56 am
#6 The Queen HAS to pass laws passed by the government as an act of tradition. Yes, the Queen does undeservingly use taxpayer’s money, but she does bring in more revenue thorugh tourism – Buckingham Palace sans monarch is boring.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:35 am
Scottish notes are accepted without fail in Northern Ireland, as are Welsh. It’s just the English that don’t accept notes from the other countries.
April 16th, 2009 at 3:29 am
God Save The Queen is a brilliant anthem, and also gets the corwds singing along, as does Land of Hope and Glory!
April 16th, 2009 at 3:29 am
*crowds
My bad…
April 16th, 2009 at 5:29 am
316. Studizzle4mob -
I’m pretty sure you didn’t need an account just to make your statement. A simple declaration of your distaste for the list would have sufficed, but like others have said, making a list isn’t as easy as it seems. You should try it if you’re an avid follower of this site. Anybody can come on her and say a list is flawed, but you offered little in the way of reasons. And because I’ve been around here for a while I can safely say that this ISN’T the worst list in a while. It’s actually well done, and stirred quite a bit of good commentary. So please, if it bugs you so much go read another list or better yet, make one yourself and see how much work it takes before you go trashing someone else’s work.
April 16th, 2009 at 5:31 am
A few points – some of which have already partly been covered…
Legal Tender – in the UK (short for United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island, of course) this has a very narrow definition – it’s about what can be paid into court to avoid being sued for a debt. It really hasn’t anything to do with what will be accepted for payment by shopkeepers, bartenders, railway stations etc.
In England and Wales, only Bank of England notes and current coins minted by the Royal Mint are legal tender – but the lower value coins are only legal tender up to specific sums of money.
In Scotland, only the coins are legal tender. I’m not sure what the situation is in Northern Ireland.
Shopkeepers etc. are entirely at liberty do decide what form of payment they will accept – so if a newsagent in London decided that he won’t accept a Clydesdale Bank Pound note – for instance – that’s entirely up to him. Silly I’d say – because his own bank will let him bank it!
Similarly, a number of shops – especially in the touristy parts of London will accept Euro’s and even US Dollars (at dreadful exchange rates, of course) – but there’s nothing to prevent that from happening.
In reality, I’ve never had any problems with spending bank notes issued by any of the three Scottish banks in London, the North of England or even in Cornwall. I’ve not had the opportunity to try it anywhere else in the UK – but I can imagine a “Saturday-girl/boy” at Woolies (now defunct of course) refusing it because of unfamiliarity.
Nations, Countries, States, Provinces, Regions and Kingdoms….
This is much more complicated than the rather complex situation that it seems….
The Soverign State is called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland, because since 1922, the Irish Free State – now called the Republic of Ireland or Eire has been a seperate Soverign State. Before then it was simply the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland – ie a union of two Kingdoms.
The Kingdom of Great Britain was formed with the Union of the Kingdom of North Britain and the Kingdom of South Britain – which were the preferred names at the time for Scotland and England & Wales. The Scots at the time rather took the the North Britain name – but the English didn’t really care for it. Not much later in history the Scots abandonned the idea and reverted to preffering the name Scotland to refer to that part of the the Kingdom – which was of course the original name of the Kingdom before the Union.
Wales has never been seperate single Kingdom – but once subsumed into the Kingdom of England it made a Principality. Similarly when Cornwall became part of the Kingdom, it made a Duchy (co-incidently – or not – the Duke of Cornwall and the Prince of Wales are one and the same person).
So what country do I come from? The word Country is actually rather fluid to us Brits – when supporting our “National” football team – it means England, Scotland, Wales – or Northern Ireland. When supporting our Olympic athletes – it means the whole of the UK! The Home Nations for Rubgy are England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland – so nothing is consistent.
Northern Ireland is sometimes called a Province – or the Province of Ulster. The Kingdom of Ireland was divided into four provinces – the others being Leinster, Munster and Connaught. Northern Ireland is actually only 2/3 of the province of Ulster – 3 of the 9 counties of Ulster are actually not in Norther Ireland – including the Northern-most!
And that’s just scratching the surface – the Isle of Mann and the Channel Islands are even more complex….
April 16th, 2009 at 5:40 am
I have to say I’ve been a Saturday girl at Gregg’s (a British bakery) for 2 years now and we always accept Scottish notes without batting an eyelid. That’s why I was shocked to learn some places in England don’t. We are just South of the border though so maybe we’re more used to it.
Great list BTW
April 16th, 2009 at 5:48 am
Halfcrown – It;’s Isle of Man or Mann, never Isle of Mann.
April 16th, 2009 at 5:49 am
Legal Tender – it’s about what can be paid into court to avoid being sued for a debt.
Halfcrown – not quite, but you are on the right track. Specifically, legal tender (under UK jurisdiction) is a means of payment that, if the payment of a debt is challenged in court, will be deemed to have been extinguished if it was paid in legal tender. Note, too, that denominations can also apply depending upon the actual coins paid over; eg. if you try to pay a debt of £1,000 with a barrow full of pennies…this is not deemed to be legal tender.
It really hasn’t anything to do with what will be accepted for payment by shopkeepers, bartenders, railway stations etc.
Correct. In fact, a shopkeeper (or anybody else) is free to refuse legal tender in exchange for his goods, though this would not be a particularly constructive way to operate a business…
From memory, the US definition and application of “legal tender” differs from that of the UK.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:06 am
kiwiboi – you just reminded me of something. i was watching the news a couple weeks ago. there was a man who had a problem with council tax, he said he didn’t owe it and the council said he did and threatened him with court over his £1000 tax. so he took £1000 worth of pennies into the council and they refused to take it. the man then went to court and told the court he’d tried to pay the council tax and the council refused his money, so he shouldnt have to pay it. i dont know what happened after that.
i bet £1000 worth of pennies was hard to carry.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:13 am
6twistedbiscuits – heh, there are always cases like this. Quite often, when a government office (or similar) is involved, they will accept the barrow-load of pennies in order to avoid unwanted publicity.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:23 am
kiwiboi – i would never have guessed it. i cracked my sides laughing at that man and the council, the council it happened with are BAD for saying people owe council tax when they dont. i wish i’d have thought to take a barrel of pennies when they tried it with me, but then i probably couldnt lift it to take it in the council.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:36 am
i liked this list, maybe because i’m british.
it annoys me no end when i hear people say ‘the scottish (name- Gerard Butler)…the welsh beauty (name- Catherine Zeta Jones)…the BRITISH (name- Keira Knightley)’ when that person is english – they’re all british!! either say theyre all british or call the last one english. I think most people think britain=england, and then scotland and wales are seperate when britain is all 3.
I love british weather, its not that it rains constantly its just that the weather changes so quickly, one day that i remember it was raining, stormy, thunder, lightning, by lunchtime it was hot enough that i had a tan! by the end of the day i was like wait wtf??!!
April 16th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Curious_Missy
“I still don’t get the whole Britain, Scotland, England thing. I guess I’ll just have to look it up further. But it is a great thing to learn about bc I would hate to call a Scot a Brit mistakenly”–
Just remember:The British Isles are made up of 4 countries: England,Ireland,Scotland and New Zealand.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:47 am
“Tea is said to have been discovered in 2737 BC by a Chinese emperor when some tea leaves accidentally blew into a pot of boiling water. The tea bag was introduced in 1908 by Thomas Sullivan of New York”.
(Google Fact Finder)
According to Google,we yanks and the Chinese had more to do with tea than even the Brits.
April 16th, 2009 at 7:25 am
“It;’s Isle of Man or Mann, never Isle of Mann.”
Handrejka: Thanks for that correction – I could feel there was something wrong as I typed it!
April 16th, 2009 at 7:32 am
“Bushings Tea” Segue? Never heard of it dear. Can I still get it today? Perhaps you were referring to Bushells Tea?
In Australia, we like to talk about “Whinging Poms” – I am aghast to realise that after 346 comments, the word Pom has not been used once. A shame!
The English used to be world champions at everything, including American Football. Now they are champions of nothing, except whinging. For those north of Mexico, a whinge (pronounced winj), is a complaint every 15 seconds about the weather, the bad language, the quality of the shopping, the beaches, the beer, the arrogance of Australians, the road rules, the accent, the prices in restaurants, the poor service at the dry cleaner, the weather (its been 15 seconds). The English and their Irish neighbours are and always will be the biggest whingers on earth.
The most common remark made by the English in any part of the world is “its not like that in England”. God forbid. But before feeling sorry for their perceived terrible lot in life, think again. The English and Irish love to gripe! They love it! It is part of their national psyche and if you complain about their complaining – they get cross at you! It is their national obsession and unlike most cultures – it is enjoyed! God bless Britain and all of its whinging Poms!
April 16th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Regarding number 10, us English always get annoyed when we are always referred to as the conjoined twin of England, Scotland and Wales. Each country has different customs, traditions, accents, sometimes even different languages. It is quite possible that an Englishman would not understand a Glaswegian because of the thick accent.
I don’t know what you’re on about with no. 7, England ALWAYS use ‘God Save the Queen’, Scotland ALWAYS use ‘Flower of Scotland’, and Wales ALWAYS use ‘Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau’ (‘Land of My Fathers’).
April 16th, 2009 at 7:58 am
uhhhhh–Excuse me..But when were the British ever champions of American football?–I nust have slept thru that period.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:01 am
It’s actually called ‘RP’ (‘received pronunciation’) or ‘Standard English’, but most people use the terms BBC English or Queen’s English.
Bit of linguistic pedantry for you
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April 16th, 2009 at 8:26 am
smithstar15 (302):
So what you´re telling me is that y´all dont sit around chewing tabaki on the porch swing all day?!? And you dont eat grits with possum?!? Shocking!
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ABrutalKind (315):
I think I will research further just out of general curiosity, however… I´m sure we all agree on the BASIC human rights, life being one of them. However, how do you determine grey areas? Like, freedom of speech turning into hate speech inciting violence?
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M Mac (327):
“Put down these rebelious Scots”
Well, I´m guessing that must have been fun to sing!
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Halfcrown (337):
And then you wonder why the rest of the world is so confused!!!
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DxC (344):
Did you mean to say “the scottish HUNK (name- Gerard Butler)…”
April 16th, 2009 at 8:49 am
GTT–Yeah,I like to chaw down on a little tobaccy–I like spitting it at the old blue-tick hounds laying around the yard.And yeah..You so right–You can’t eat grits without ‘possum–That would be one of them there social blunders around here.Well,I gotta get the 12 guage and go back ere
and check my still–Make sure them dad-blamed revenooers ain’t hanging around.Then I’m gonna watch the tellyvision–They having one of them “Dukes Of Hazzard” marathon thangs–Nuthin but the Duke boys all day–
April 16th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Erm, just a little correction: It was a parent at Fry’s Holophonor recital who spoke “posh”, not his tutor. (The one who had to beat her child fairly hard).
April 16th, 2009 at 9:05 am
smithstar15: I really think you should make that list. It would be very funny!
You could add:
Eveyone’s named Bob or Earl or Bubba
Nascar!
Moonshine-the only way to go
April 16th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Kutuup–On #8 on your list–When was that photograph of Prince Charles taken? The photographer must have airbrushed it a little because he usually doesn’t look that good.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Scottish forever, British never !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We will have our independence, very,very soon.
Northern ireland = Irish = celtic
Scotland = Scottish = celtic
Wales = Welsh = celtic
England = English = saxon
celts are water and saxons are oil we are 2 different races of people , with different cultural beleifs and practices and languages(as gaelic is making a strong comeback in the celtic countries.
April 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Long live Michael Collins!
April 16th, 2009 at 10:05 am
(re:358) smithstar15 and 2 all the freedom fighters who should be canonised as saints as they died as martyrs.
Us Scots and Irish share a bond through our blood we are both united in our cause.
mon the hoops
April 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am
359. BigFro : Oh, just going to forget the Welsh are we?
April 16th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Glad the errors were pointed out. I took the “Life in Britain” test 1.5 years ago to get indefinitely leave to remain, and I can tell you that Scottish notes are definitely legal tender throughout the UK.
Also, anyone who is here legally is entitled to the NHS. I got a Master’s degree here and only 20% of the class were British and everyone was entitled.
This is a very poorly researched list!
April 16th, 2009 at 10:29 am
BigFro –I agree
April 16th, 2009 at 10:36 am
360. Mark : I humbly apologise for leaving out the bond all of us celts share with the Welsh.
so now i shall rephrase, us Scots,Irish and Welsh are all united as celtic brothers , we are one in the same,bonded by the atrocities commited on OUR celtic people by the saxons.
They took our lands,Tried 2 kill our culture but we are survivors as its in our celtic blood.
And i know it was you welsh who brought back the resurgence in the gaelic languages , and i applaud Wales for doing just that.
so please accept my apologies as i know many welsh people and would never want to be offensive towards them, as they are a beautiful race of people.
oh btw i adore Cardiff , and have never felt more welcome in a city then when i am there.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I’ve been reading D.M.Barry’s book,”European Travel Tips” and it really is loaded with great tips. Such as this one:(and this tip is especially meant for men in Alabama and Texas who may be thinking of traveling to the British Isles).When you visit a restroom (or Loo) in England you will see a “bidet”–This IS NOT a urinal laying on it’s back so please do not pee in it.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:10 am
And here’s something else I didn’t know: The French Isles are also made up of 4 different countries: France,Belgium,Quebec and Louisiana(Where the natives are called Gumbos which is French for “Okra-Eaters”)–Also the French are the world’s leading experts on “How To Surrender Properly”
This is also interesting-(I’m just scanning thru the book here)-The monetary unit in Belgium is the “pfarthing”–Their motto is “Dieu et droitpour la verite”(I spit on your zither)and The State song is “Mustang Sally”–
April 16th, 2009 at 11:14 am
353. smithstar15
Re: your correspondence with Mr.GTT
So let me get this straight – you enjoy a choice chewing tobacco, not too piquant, while spending some amusing but harmless time playing with the family pets. And at dinner you agree that a fairly benign starch dish, such as a properly prepared hominy polenta, is best augmented with a flavorful wild game reduction – it would be a faux pas to do otherwise, of course.
Then after dinner spend some quality time outdoors in the fresh air, on a jolly good hunt in the vineyards near the winery, keeping an eye out that the sheriff’s guard are not lurking about.
Then, later in the evening, at the satellite theater: tonight it’s a roaring burlesque revival series, some times featuring ladies in frayed denim shorts – with just a touch of buttocks showing below the fray – you naughty boy.
Smithstar15 – you truly are a cultured gentleman
April 16th, 2009 at 11:18 am
bigfro – you are complaining about something that happened hundreds of years ago, by people you never met to people you never met. thats a long time to hold a grudge, for something that has never happened to you personally and i think you are being a bit silly.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:19 am
TEX–Well son–You all got it shore nuff right.And that Daisy Mae! OOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEE–She make a blind man see and a dead man get up and run!
April 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am
smithstar15 – speaking Gaelic I assume?
So continental!
April 16th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I took the Life in Britain test 1.5 years ago to get indefinitely leave to remain, and I can tell you that Scottish notes are definitely legal tender throughout the UK.
shaunism – wrong. Scottish banknotes are *not* legal tender anywhere…not even in Scotland. Follow the links given in #322.
And, I’m probably mistaken, but wasn’t the legal tender question in the Life in Britain test to do with postage stamps? (Which again, and despite many people thinking the contrary, are also not legal tender) ?
April 16th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Actually,I is speaking Northern Alabamian–But I lived outside the United States for awhile–I lived over in Georgia until my visa ran out–
April 16th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Smithstar15- I totally understood you.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Nice translation TEX. Redneck to British~~ You need to work at the U.N.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Thanks Nicosia,if you understand me you’re one in a billion and I appreciate it–Hell,I don’t even understand me.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I SHYTE ON THE U.N. PHOOEY
April 16th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
348. Wally: “Bushings Tea” Segue? Never heard of it dear. Can I still get it today? Perhaps you were referring to Bushells Tea?
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My mis-remembering the name of the tea was cleared up at post #162 in a most gracious manner.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
As someone who works with Brit daily and travels there for business, I can attest that many of the items on this list are incorrect or half-right
April 16th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
smithstar15 (353):
LOL… It really would be a funny list!
As for your comment in 365:
“Dieu et droit pour la verite” (I spit on your zither)… I´m confused… That says GOD AND RIGHT FOR TRUTH. What is this spit thing?
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TEX (366):
That´s MRS. GTT!
(And by the way, funny as hell…)
April 16th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
357 ‘England = English = saxon’
i’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic but..just because you’re English doesn’t mean you’re saxon, or anglo-saxon or whatever, similarly just because you’re Irish, Scottish or Welsh doesn’t mean you’re celtic. I’m sure you know this but it’s just a bit annoying.
(I’m English and my ancestors were Normans and also Spanish.)
April 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
I’m really not that big of an idiot, well I didn’t think so… haha. So the UK and “Britain,” are they the same thing? Be easy if I’m way off base. I swear we never learned the difference between England and Britain in school in the US. While in the boonies where I grew up. The popular media isn’t great at it either.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Sorry MRS. GTT, bad habit of mine.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
TEX (380): No problem!
April 16th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
When I was eighteen, I took a graduation trip to London to visit my aunt, who has lived there since the Seventies. People kept telling me that 1) English people were snobs, especially to tourists, and 2) I wouldn’t be able to understand a word they said.
Not true! They were very nice, especially when they found out I was visiting from the States (which they could tell by my accent, of course). I loved them and London is one of only a couple of big cities that I think I could live in.
As far as understanding, I only had difficulty with one person. I went to the theater one night and on the way back got a cab driver who was Cockney (I think). He was also talkative, which was excruciatingly embarrassing for me. He said, “Goiolonoliday?” about twenty times. It took me five minutes to figure out he was asking me if I was on holiday! I said, “Oh yes!” and thought Whew, that’s it. Nope, he had more conversation!
I felt bad and apologized to him as I paid. He just laughed and said “Tha’s okay!”
April 16th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
k1w1taxi (245)
what i said about the comment was not the one you thought it was.
anyway i can’t be arsed with arguing with simple minded people who have been brainwashed by the media.
We get TV licence gas electricity,
Your generosity is amazing to see,
You even pay our phonebills so we call Afghanistan,
Tell all our friends to come here and live on Englishman!
Our friends in Parliament they all on our side,
Sometimes they talk tough, but you know it’s a lie,
Immigration is a good thing, on that they all agree,
The only ones who’ll stop it are the wicked BNP!
Oh I’ve got a brand new leather jacket and a brand new mobile phone,
The Brits they live in cartboard boxes while we get furnished homes,
Legal aid driving lessons central heating and free bills,
Oh we get all the benefits and you get all the bills….
April 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Do you have ranch dressing and Klondike bars in England.
April 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
?
April 16th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
sheesh.. I guess I’ll wikipedia it.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
The reality is if the UK continue to allows mass islamic immigration into their countries, you can expect radical groups like the BNP to grow…if your leaders are willing to sell your country out to radical islam, it will be obvious that there will be a backlash…either Islam enslaves the UK or the people rise up with a reasonable alternative to fight back against Islam….hopefully that will not entail groups like the BNP….
April 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Nice list! I would like to visit England some times.
April 16th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
387. Devon : Wow, very slight racist undercurrents there…
April 16th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
# 9:- Warm beer
You said you wonder where the rumour about warm beer started. The earliest instance of that rumour, as much as I can tell, is in the “Asterix in Britain” book form the Asterix and Obleisk series. Asterix orders beer in a English town and is served warmbeer and Obliesk remarks “These Britons are crazy”
The book also references many of the other cliches associated with Britain and British people. You can read more about it here:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asterix_in_Britain
April 16th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Kutuup, as a Scottish person I wouldn’t have called this list “SHITE” if it wasn’t so fucking offensive. What this really is is a list of anti-English preconceptions which appears to not give a shit about the rest of Britain. Therefore your “fact” bulllshit remains as it begins, bullshit. If you ignore three parts of a nation then you can’t exactly whine when those three parts complain.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
391 Baxter
True. I thought there would be a bit about how drunk the Irish always are, apparently. And also if Scottish people are really obsessed with Sean Connery.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
I don`t know why comment #364 is funny.~~ But it is.
When did the U.S get beat by the U.K in American football ? Maybe you mean soccer.
I would like to visit all four places.
April 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
I always drink my beer warm! I don’t order it that way. I let it sit until it’s at room temperature and then drink it. It usually takes me two to three hours to finish a bottle.
April 16th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
great list, although when you say that the weather is between 15 and 23 in summer that gives me chills! I mean that’s probably coz i live in Australia and in summer it gets between 30 and 45, and that’s only in sydney (i love hot weather).
Also i love tea, i probably drink alot, and yeah we do say come over for tea when we mean dinner… I’ve recently taken to having tea parties, lots of tea and cakes, it’s great. Seriously though, it’s like 15 degrees here at the moment and i’m frozen.
April 16th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
395. Ariel : Is it really 15 down there? It was getting down to 13 in the mornings when I was staying with my billet up in the mountains on tour. For a boy from Central Queensland that really sucked
April 17th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Wally, I’ve always wondered why you Aussies call us pomegranates. A fruit wth more than one good thing about it. I cannot believe you said England and Ireland are the biggest whingers. I know the pictures you have in your head are a oh-so-posh butler with his nose turned up at something (yes, we really do find it as annoying as every one else does) and an Irish leprechaun talking really fast about something he doesn’t like. If you think we’re whingers, listen to the Welsh! Even when they’re not whinging they sound like they are! The best example is probably Jonathan Davies, the Rugby commentator, though you won’t find any pictures of him.
I just thought I’d add this try, scored by Davies, in the 1994 game between The Whingers (GB) and The Men Who Wear Pink And Think It Looks Good (AUS)
April 17th, 2009 at 12:25 am
April 17th, 2009 at 12:32 am
0-6 C is bitterly cold? lol i’d call that pretty warm winter weather here in Iowa =D
April 17th, 2009 at 12:48 am
400 comments on this thread, and I thought Americans have issues.
April 17th, 2009 at 1:10 am
I wish I was British so I could enjoy Susan Boyle’s voice even more.
April 17th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Is is true that racism in UK is worse than in any part of the world?
I don’t think so, but can somebody please tell me where this nonsense came from?
April 17th, 2009 at 2:46 am
ROBBY57 – you are offensive. if you wont do anything to clear up the misconceptions of the BNP then dont complain that there are any. dont just call us brainwashed, explain.
keep your racist poetry in your head. i’m white, born british and i lived in a black community. beleive me, immegrants dont get it easier then i do.
April 17th, 2009 at 3:29 am
I chat to a guy from Skipton in England and he told me one time that according to the tourists their beer is warm. I like my beer to be room temperature too. And another thing I noticed from him was everytime I asked him what he’s doing he said, “I’m in the pub luv” It seems like they spend their every waking minute in the pub. So its no wonder there are so many pubs in Skipton.
April 17th, 2009 at 3:44 am
Yogi…(400)
I think everyone on the planet has “issues”, mate.
England vs Rest of the World, China vs Japan and India vs Pakistan for example. The older the Nation, the more chips on the shoulders of its peoples.
April 17th, 2009 at 3:54 am
Question on no.6 ?
Didn’t the Queen recently suspend parliment and fire the PM of Canada? I may be all mixed up but even though the monarchy seems like it has little to no power, it still has the ability to use it’s power when needed.
Furthermore, many high ranked officials in the US and many other parts of the world can trace their bloodline directly to the monarchy. I have to disagree. I think the queen of england may still be one of the most powerful people in the world.
April 17th, 2009 at 4:02 am
Robby57: Nice going there convincing people that the BNP has a moderate and thoughtful membership that isn’t racist at all [and has friends who are descended from immigrants!!]. Ahuh, totally convincing argument from you start to finish. Heartfelt pleas to understand, unsubstantiated assertions, a twisted to the point of being almost completely untrue version of the issue at the refinery you mentioned, your gradual switch to just wanting rid of immigrants regardless of their legal status and of course, your jaunty little ditty.
Tell ya what Robby, if you want to follow a party run by a racist, anti Semitic, hateful, piece of shit former National Front activist convicted of inciting racial hatred that’s fine, and if you want to go on believing it has no racist agenda at all that’s fine too. But you might want to start thinking about who’s being brainwashed.
I wonder where Nick could have gotten the idea of using a convenient scapegoat to lay all of our country’s ills on and then rally the people around him when he sorts those bastards out….seems I remember something like that happening once….
PS In your little song you can substitute “immigrant” with “lazy effing British bastard who never worked a day in his life”.
April 17th, 2009 at 4:33 am
Surly (406) – That’s exactly the power that the monarch has – the power to appoint a prime minister. I suppose in theory the Queen can invite anyone to the Palace and appoint them First Lord of the Treasury – which gives them the responsibility of forming a government, including appointing themselves PM.
In practice (and it would a serious constitional crisis if it didn’t happen) she will invite the leader of the party with the largest number of seats after a general election – or if the PM resigns, then the person that the resigning PM suggests.
April 17th, 2009 at 4:41 am
404. Rina : I can NOT drink room temperature beer. I don’t like beer that much as it is, but when you’re 16 you take what you can get
405. scandal007 : It’s not actually England (The United Kingdom?) vs The Rest of the World, it’s actually The United Kingdom vs all ex-British colonies. Because if we start a list on levels of despisation – I love new words
– then it’s probably Australia, The USA, India etc.
406. surly : Yeah, they don’t often use the power – which makes it more ceremonial – but it IS there.
April 17th, 2009 at 5:04 am
BNP/National Front/Racism in the UK/Xenophobia in the UK…
The current BNP seems to have had a complex history, including associations and common roots with the National Front and the “New National Front” – which in turn have had associations and common roots with the orginal BNP, which evolved in a complex way from the British Union of Fascists (Sir Oswald Mosley’s party in the 1930’s) which were openly anti-semitic.
This anti-semitism (including holocaust-denial)survived in open publicity until fairly recent years in the BNP. Other racist policies were also openly publicised too – such as forced-repatriation of non-white immigrants.
In recent years, the more racist policies seem no longer to be officially endorced by the party. I do wonder how much current legislation against incitement to racial hatred has affected this.
In terms of general xenophobia – there is evidence that the UK has had an elevated level of xenophopia, which I think I have seen diminishing in general over the last 20 years – although I have also come across some places/communities where there appears to be a surprising number of xenophobic individuals.
April 17th, 2009 at 5:21 am
Warm Beer…
It kind of depends on what you call beer – and what you call warm!
Generally pubs will sell a variety of chilled pressurised largers and maybe one or two chilled pressurised bitters and/or stouts – like Guinness. These are normally served at around 10C (+/-3C) – depending on the premises. Guinness started a new trend of “extra cold” taps of the same beers – at 4C – in the last couple of years or so.
Then there’s hand-pumped ales. These are not chilled and not pressurised – but pumped using the barman’s arm-power. (I understand electric pumps exist, but I’ve never seen one in use myself!) Typically the barrels are kept in a cellar, which is unheated of course – and often in the basement of the pub. So on a cold day, the beer could come out quite chilly – and on a warm day, the beer will come out at several degress below room temperature.
Sometimes there’s a small barrel (perhaps a firkin) of some special ale behind the bar, with a tap on it. That beer will be room-temperature of course.
Some ales have really delicate flavours which would be lost if drunk too cold.
So – if beer means hand-pumped ales, and warm means not refrigerated – then yes – you can buy warm beer in the UK.
If you drink larger, however, it will always be cold – and sometimes very cold.
And then of course there’s bottled beer…..
April 17th, 2009 at 7:34 am
As a few people have pointed out Scottish Banknotes are not legal tender anywhere, NOT EVEN SCOTLAND, which even the scottish banks admit.http://www.scotbanks.org.uk/legal_position.php
They are not issued by the government so do not HAVE to be accepted. but a shopkeeper or anyone can accept them if they want, as they can any form of payment, $ € or green sticks with rubber bands on.
And as was also mentioned UK coins are only legal tender to a certain level, 1p and 2p coins are only legal tender up to 20p above that they can be refused.
April 17th, 2009 at 7:56 am
I’m English and I get really annoyed when foreign people (particularly [SOME] americans)say we have a british accent. There are hundreds of accents in Britain and England that vary greatly. I for example have a broad yorkshire accent which obviously cannot be compared to cockney, brummy or glaswegian accents. Anyway, rather biasly (probably not a word) I have to say the yorkshire accent is the best!
April 17th, 2009 at 8:06 am
413. Jak : Yeah and yet I’m sure you’d still say that I have an Australian accent. And oouchan has an American accent of course. Get the fuck over it mate, if people not from your countries’ not understanding the insanely intricate set of accents that co-exist there annoys you maybe you should move to another world, or, better yet, another universe.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Thankyou, I will actually. Im going to rent a nice castle on mars just to make you happy.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:19 am
415. Jak : There’s a good pom
April 17th, 2009 at 8:25 am
Jak – I wouldn’t get too het up about it. Saying that someone has a British accent just means that their accent has been recognised as coming from somewhere in Britain – not that everyone in Britain shares that accent.
Many people who have not lived in Britain would be hard-pushed to identify where some clearly British accents are from – but they can usually tell that they are from somewhere withing these shores.
I’ve lived in London almost exclusively – I can normally tell if someone comes from South London or East London. On the other hand, I can’t really tell if someone comes from Yorkshire or Cumbria – I can only identify them as from the North of England somwhere.
Having spent 1 year in Dundee, however, I can usuallt identify Dundee, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Fife accents – although not necessarily that reliably!
April 17th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Yeah i suppose. Sorry but this has happened so many times that it has really started to annoy me but if youve only heard someone from britain on tv you may only hear a cockney or “queens english” accent.
April 17th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Jak….I have a slightly southern accent due to my time I spent in the south. If I am near someone who has a think accent, I start talking like them. I always get someone saying, are you from the south? I was 10 when I was there and it’s barely noticeable, but they still ask.
I went to Edinboro College in PA…a sister school to the one in Scotland. We had many from students from all over England and Scotland. I got to hear the different accents and knew that there are many over there as there are here. No hard feelings, ok?
April 17th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Yeah i was a bit ignorant, sorry, i realise there are many accents in every country and if you’ve never heard one then of course you will call it american or british, or whatever
April 17th, 2009 at 9:02 am
I hear different British accents every single day, and I still call them all British. It’s hard for me to tell them apart, I can pick out a basic Scottish, basic Welsh, a Norfolk/East Anglian accent and the general British one, which I’m assuming a London accent of some sort.
I don’t get offended when people say I have an American accent, because I do. I can’t expect them to know my specific state, or even region.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:04 am
420. Jak and 421. downhighway61 : Exactly what I was trying to convey, just in much more reasonable and not angry words.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Mark, the angry words amused me though. And ‘mate’. I love hearing that one.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:12 am
423. downhighway61 : I said the words were not angry, did I ever say they were better
April 17th, 2009 at 10:42 am
238 Cath: The ‘Union Jack’ is only called the Union Jack when at sea apparently. Otherwise, it should be the Union Flag, but call the British/U.Kian flag the Union Jack too, and only recently found this out while watching Q.I (program we have over here).
I drink tea all the time! And as for accents, coming from the Black Country near Birmingham, England, the regional accent here is atrocious! It’s all yow instead of you, and ay instead of haven’t or isn’t! Urgh! Sorry to any locals!
April 17th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Sorry, I meant…
…but I call the flag the Union Jack… Oops
April 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am
*Northern ireland = Irish = celtic
Scotland = Scottish = celtic
Wales = Welsh = celtic
England = English = saxon
celts are water and saxons are oil we are 2 different races of people , with different cultural beleifs and practices and languages(as gaelic is making a strong comeback in the celtic countries.*
There is only one thing thing to say to the above statements: Shyte.
This is coming from someone whose ancestors emigrated from Scotland and Ireland.
There is ONE nation in Britain: it is the British nation, which includes regional variants known as `English’, `Scottish’ and `Welsh.’
The contention that `Scotland = celtic’ is (as you Brits say) absolute rubbish.
Large scale Irish migration to the land later known as Scotland, only began in the tenth century.
On the other hand, Anglo-Saxon-Jute migration to northern Britain began in the fifth century, concurrent with the invasions of more southerly Britain – ie. the area that came to be known as `Anglaland’ – England.
Scottish society was organized by the A-S-J’s, not by the Celts; the latter were a distinct group (ie. Highlanders) but long ago became assimilated into the Anglo mainstream.
As for the `race’ of the Scots, English, etc., recent DNA studies found that the population that most British resemble on a genetic level, are not Germans, Irish or Scandinavians – but those from the Basque region of Spain.
It means that, in spite of being invaded and conquered numerous time (though none since 1066 AD) the basic genetic profile of the British has remained the same since the original invasions of thousands of years ago.
April 17th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
eh…the queen still retains power over parliament. she has the power to dismiss it when she feels appropriate and can even ask opposition to form government instead of the current. part from that fine
April 17th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
I feel the NHS section is slightly misleading. Depending on where you live in Britain, NHS regulations are slightly different. For example, those in Wales recieve free drugs prescriptions whereas rules in Scotland are stricter (I have paid for all medicine since I completed my stint in full time education).
Yes you pay for the NHS through taxation but you do not pay depending on the treatment you recieve but rather the tax band you come under which corresponds to your salary.
To my knowledge, the NHS DOES cover any injury or illness. Treatments which you may pay for are those which are non-life threatening (i.e. fertility). The NHS is not a medical insurance company, it is a nationalised health service.
April 17th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Good list, very enjoyable!! Just a couple of pointers;
10. ‘Great Britain’ refers to the island of Britain, as opposed to the island of Ireland. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, as it says on our passports!
6. The British monarchy does have absoilute power, but only technically – the monarch gives their opinion to the serving prime minister on national/international issues, and these are taken into account. The main function is as a strong, stable figurehead and head of state not just for the UK but the whole commonwealth. The monarch represents a figure who is above the daily politics of parliament, so that no prime minister can ever get too powerful. Tourism is a bonus, not a means.
3. Scottish money is accepted EVERYWHERE in the UK, but there is a spoecial rule that shops can refuse it at their discretion.
nice one!
April 17th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
My Belarusan roommate and his 2 Russian friends are the only people I know who drink excessive amounts of tea… I don’t see what the big deal is. They drink it like it’s the drink of the gods… and honestly, I’ve tried the stuff they drink. It tastes like shit.
April 17th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Scottish money is accepted EVERYWHERE in the UK, but there is a spoecial rule that shops can refuse it at their discretion.
Bergy10 – no. There is no “special rule” for Scottish currency.
April 17th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Great site, truly awful list. Like a load of personal opinions touted as fact.
Wales does not have it’s own prime minister!
@jfrater – how is darjeeling China tea? I always assumed since it’s called darjeeling that is where it originates from, not China?
April 17th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Green Eyes – Actually he’s right…tea growing in Darjeeling (which of course is in India) was introduced in the mid-nineteenth century using seeds of tea plants from China.
Also Wales doesn’t have its own Prime Minister – but it does have a First Minister – the leader of the Welsh National Assembly government.
April 17th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I wonder if we´ll ever stop getting comments about the whole Scottish money thing… Seems to me that it´s been fairly well covered!
April 17th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Here’s something new:
On a Canadian two dollar bill, the flag flying over the Parliament Building is an American flag.This is a fact but I have no idea why.
April 17th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Britain probably lost the right to “Great” when they sold Rolls and Bently to Volkswagon and BMW, but what really hurt is when they moved HP sauce to holland
April 18th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Cool, thanks halfcrown – I never knew that!
As for the first minister thing – same for Scotland and N.I but that isn’t what the list implies when it says each have their own government. Government is still centralised as far as I’m aware.
April 18th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Good assessment of the status of the regal. I’m Scandinavian, and we have these spoiled puppet-clans in front of which one must kowtow, too. It’s absurd, of course, and demeaning for everyone involved.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
The two Kiwi’s talking about what is legal tender and what is not are being sophistic in the extreme. To quote from the Bank of England website which Kiwiboi refers us to-
“The term legal tender does not in itself govern the acceptability of banknotes in transactions…Legal tender has a very narrow technical meaning.”
The site goes on to explain that there are four note-issuing banks in NI and three in Scotland and that these issues “have to be backed pound for pound by Bank of England notes.”
So to say Scottish notes are not legal tender even in Scotland may be correct but only “in a very narrow technical meaning.”
Please feel free to argue your point in Belfast or Glasgow. Simply say to the barman or taxi-driver that you only want Bank of England notes in your change, and explain to him that you do not regard the local currency as being “legal tender.”
You may well end up getting a chance to sample the National Health Service too.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Forgot to say earlier, very good list kutuup. Definitely stirred up some very interesting arguments!
April 18th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
mcswiggle: the fact remains, the item says Scottish money is not legal tender – and that is true – so why are you arguing? Also read my comments above in which I quote from Treasury. In England, shops can and DO (occasionally) decline non-English printed money. Why are you trying to argue against these things which are all facts? And the fact that I am not English does not mean I can be right and an Englishman wrong. Your mentioning of it is argumentum ad hominem which certainly doesn’t help your cause.
April 18th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
436 smithstar15: On a Canadian two dollar bill, the flag flying over the Parliament Building is an American flag. This is a fact but I have no idea why.
You dolt. Try doing some research.
http://www.snopes.com/business/money/redensign.asp
April 18th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Screw Off Maggot–You piece of vermin
April 18th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Maggot face has a degree from Snopes U and is well versed in all currency–What a moron!
April 18th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
re: no.6 – You are wrong on this one. The Queen IS the ruler of Britain, Canada, etc. and exercises her power quite often. Being a Canadian, I will give you some examples from Canada: The Governor General (representative of the Queen) has to give Royal Assent on ALL laws created in Canada (the Lieutenant-Governors do it for each province). The Queen (through the Governor General) is the only one that can dissolve parliament. A very recent example of that power was when a coalition of opposition party sided together to seize power from a minority government. The Governor General vetoed the takeover, suspending Parliament for 2 months in order to give time for everyone to cool off. Consequently, the Governor General went against the will of the majority of Parliament (democratically elected).
April 18th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
No problemo smithstar. Next time you need to be led by the nose to an answer, just let me know.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:04 am
The two Kiwi’s talking about what is legal tender and what is not are being sophistic in the extreme.
mcsquiggle – you either do not understand the meaning of the word “sophistry”, or are accusing “the two Kiwi’s” of deliberate deceit. Moreover, you then go on to support our very argument. LOL!!
You seem to be misguidedly clinging to the words “narrow technical meaning”. This “narrow technical meaning” is referring to the common misconception that legal tender governs the day to day transactions that we, in the UK, are all a party to (eg. paying a shopkeeper, cab-driver etc.)
It is not a pissing contest about the worthiness, or otherwise, of Scottish/Nth Irish banknotes, as was clearly explained in #339 :
“Specifically, legal tender (under UK jurisdiction) is a means of payment that, if the payment of a debt is challenged in court, will be deemed to have been extinguished if it was paid in legal tender.”
In general terms, unless you are up before a judge you should have little cause to have proximity to the concept of legal tender in the UK.
Note too, that on the very first page of the link to the Scottish Parliament briefing paper that I provided in #321 clearly states that Scottish banknotes “are not legal tender, even in Scotland”
What part of all of this do you not understand?
April 19th, 2009 at 2:39 am
JF (442) “In England, shops can and DO (occasionally) decline non-English printed money”
I am assuming that by “non-English printed money” you are referring to bank notes issued by the 3 Scottish and 4 NI banks authorised so to do. (The RBS, and Bank of Scotland notes are printed by De La Rue in Hampshire – in England of course!).
I’ve never had a scottish-issued bank note refused in England – but I have seen an inexperienced shop assistent attempt to refuse one from the couple in front of me in a queue. At my suggestion, they demanded that the manager be called – and the manager accepted the note without question, but with apologies.
I have had Bank of England notes refused, however. This applies especially to the £50 note – either because there’s a scare of forgeries in circulation, or because the shopkeeper wasn’t prepared to make that much change.
“The narrow definition of Legal Tender”…
as has been said numerous times, the term Legal Tender has nothing to do with notes being accepted in shops.
Scottish and NI notes are, however Legal Currency throughout the UK – which means they can be offered for payment anywhere with the reasonable assumption they will be accepted. Obviously, if you walked into a newsagent with a £100 Bank of Scotland note to buy a 50p packet of mints it would probably be refused.
April 19th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Thanks maggot–I’ll be sure and do that.Oh,here’s one now: Who reads these posts to you?
April 19th, 2009 at 8:24 am
“we know you’re gettin’ hard time off lizzy” huh?
“wankers”
“state of affairs” you won’t hear this in any american teen conversations
“mate”
“servile”
“shite” i guess it means the same as without the e at the end
Yes, you do talk different. Say “mate” in america and people will think you are quoting something from the movie Crocodile Dundee.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:36 am
0 – 6 degrees C is “bitterly cold?”
Obviously you’ve never lived through a Canadian winter.
April 19th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
SOOOO TRUE rbee!!! LOL! Great List though.I would love to see a list of Canadian misconceptions cleared up. Like the (NON)fact that we live in igloos.. HUH??? It may get cold, but wouldn’t they melt from all the rain we get?
April 19th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
i really can believe some people still think this stuff is true
I’m british and i for one never drink tea but i suppose I’ve never really tried it(yea i know)
great list tho well done
April 19th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
kiwiboi – wrong. There is a directive for shops in England, Wales and N. Ireland that retailers may decline to accept Scottish pounds if they feel it is neccessary. Which is hilarious because it tells you soemthing about the value of the Scottish ‘currency’ because postal stamps are legal tender and shops are legally bound to accept them as payment!
(obv this happens extremely rarely, you need a hell of a lot stamps to make up even a pound!)
April 19th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
I loved this list and the comments that followed; good on ya Kutuup!
Also, whilst trying to find a video of farmer Andy from the Barley Pickers on Scrapheap Challenge saying “Praaaaperrr jaaab” (and failing might I add) I discovered this little gem:
April 19th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
With all the talk about legal tender in the U.K what if I brought a $50.00 Dollar U.S. there. What can I get ?
April 19th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
I meant $50.00 bill. sorry
April 19th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
that was terrible. i have only ever heard 2 of these misconceptions, the teeth and the weather, which are not truly misconceptions. britain does have more overcast days than other countries in europe and na. compared to the us, british do have bad teeth.
this list sounds like it was written by an insecu brit. lame.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
459. louis : Ignorant enough comment?
“…britain does have more overcast days than other countries in europe…”
Wow, Britain’s a country now, I missed the newsflash
“…compared to the us, british do have bad teeth this list sounds like it was written by an insecu brit. lame.”
Lol, and your comment sounds like it was written by an arrogant and ignorant “American”. Congratulations on promoting the stereotype in such a fair and balanced way.
April 20th, 2009 at 1:03 am
Bergy10 (455) Where are you getting your information from?
“There is a directive for shops in England, Wales and N. Ireland that retailers may decline to accept Scottish pounds if they feel it is neccessary.”
Where is this directive? Traders are free in the UK to accept whatever form of payment they wish to. My own business, for example, only accepts card payments. I do not accept cash at all – Scottish, English, Euro, US or even Argentinian Peso’s. I don’t accept cash because I do not want my technicians to be responsible for travelling around London holding cash on my behalf.
“Which is hilarious because it tells you soemthing about the value of the Scottish ‘currency’ ”
There has not been any Scottish currency since 1707, when the Scots pound was replaced with the pound Sterling (at a rate of 12 to 1).
“postal stamps are legal tender and shops are legally bound to accept them as payment!”
No – postage stamps are not legal tender – only coins are legal tender throughout the UK, and Bank of England notes are legal tender in England and Wales.
Postage Stamps are not legal currency either.
Shops are not bound to accept postage stamps as payment – you cannot bank postage stamps – you cannot even sell them back to the post office.
“you need a hell of a lot stamps to make up even a pound”
well no – 1st class postage is 39p – so 3 of those will be £1.17 – and of course the post office do print £1 stamps, as well as £5 stamps.
bigski (457) US$50.00 would get you about £35.00 at the moment – or if you wanted to use it in a shop – probably only about £30 worth of goods.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:06 am
The NHS thing is misleading. The Scots and Welsh services are more highly funded thanks to a system called the “Barnett Formula”, created by Lord Joel Barnett in the late 1970s, but not revealed to the public until 1980. The Barnett Formula basically rules that Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish people should have more spent on them than English people. In recent years, Lord Joel Barnett himself has declared it unfair to England.
Gordon Brown refers to the “nations and regions of the UK” – the nations are Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, the regions the country formerly known as England.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:09 am
Re: #2: We have a reputation for bad weather because we perpetuate it. We Brits love talking about the weather. It’s like the national sport.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:21 am
From The Financial Times:
“Brown cut budget for English hospitals
By Chris Giles and Nicholas Timmins
Gordon Brown quietly slashed by a third this year’s hospital building and equipment budget in one of his last acts as chancellor. Prompted by the tightness of the public finances, the new prime minister, who has placed the NHS as his “immediate priority”, cut the capital budget of the English NHS for 2007-08 from £6.2bn to £4.2bn. The move could delay the government’s hospital building and reconfiguration programme in England.
However, Mr Brown avoided equivalent cuts to the Scottish and Welsh NHS budgets even though the funding formula for the UK nations suggests they should have shared the pain. That decision leaves him open to criticism that he favoured patients in his home country.”
Read the full article -
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/f7a994d0-2677-11dc-8e18-000b5df10621.html
Controversy surrounds Gordon Brown’s position as UK Prime Minister as he represents a constituency in Scotland. Around 70% of the legislation his government passes does not apply to his own constituents as they have their own devolved parliament!
Concerns are also raised that Mr Brown signed the Scottish Claim Of Right in the late 1980s, in which he and other Scots MPs undertook to put Scotland first in all their actions. There is currently a branch of opinion which states that Gordon Brown’s favouring of Scotland (he has never renounced his pledge) actually clashes with his position of PM for the whole of the UK.
April 20th, 2009 at 4:23 am
From The Financial Times:
“Brown cut budget for English hospitals
By Chris Giles and Nicholas Timmins
Gordon Brown quietly slashed by a third this year’s hospital building and equipment budget in one of his last acts as chancellor. Prompted by the tightness of the public finances, the new prime minister, who has placed the NHS as his “immediate priority”, cut the capital budget of the English NHS for 2007-08 from £6.2bn to £4.2bn. The move could delay the government’s hospital building and reconfiguration programme in England.
However, Mr Brown avoided equivalent cuts to the Scottish and Welsh NHS budgets even though the funding formula for the UK nations suggests they should have shared the pain. That decision leaves him open to criticism that he favoured patients in his home country.”
Controversy surrounds Gordon Brown’s position as UK Prime Minister as he represents a constituency in Scotland. Around 70% of the legislation his government passes does not apply to his own constituents as they have their own devolved parliament!
Concerns are also raised that Mr Brown signed the Scottish Claim Of Right in the late 1980s, in which he and other Scots MPs undertook to put Scotland first in all their actions. There is currently a branch of opinion which states that Gordon Brown’s favouring of Scotland (he has never renounced his pledge) actually clashes with his position of PM for the whole of the UK.
April 20th, 2009 at 5:24 am
Maria – either way…Gordon Brown is a total cock. The sooner he and his unprincipled and self-serving NuLabour cohort depart, the better.
I’m not saying that the alternatives would guarantee improvement, but I will rejoice on the day that Brown, Jacqui (Stasi JackBoot) Smith, Straw, McNulty, Blears etc. all lose office…ugh! And, thankfully, that day is fast approaching.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:02 am
kiwiboi – isnt there a way to get rid of gordon brown? the alternatives might not be better but at least they’d be different
April 20th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Scottish Notes are as good as any other in the UK.
Especially if you have just eaten the meal you are now going to pay for!
The police if called, will happily reply that the customer has offered to pay – end of story!
In Scotland we often refuse to accept English Notes, then tell the bemused tourists “just this once..”.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
8 – British Smiles
Ohhh there is no misconception! The shortage of available NHS dentists is testament to the fact that there are very real issues that need to be addressed, i.e. inbreeding. It simply must stop!
April 20th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Thanks for the info Halfcrown.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
what about what i’ve heard that british food is bad, and the only meal worth eating there is breakfast? having never been to the area, i would like to know if this is true or not. i’m assuming it too is a misconception.
April 20th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
NHS is the best thing to ever happen to this country.
immigrants are the worst
god save the queen
April 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Ahh – I was right about the surprising number of Xenophobic individuals. How dissappointing
April 20th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
robby57 – stop it with the pointless slating will you, your becoming BORING. you are rascist and you dont even have the balls to just say so.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
i dont know about england but it said in the one about the queen ruling that she has no power in Canada which is pretty much false because she picks the govenor general who is the actual leader not the prime minister
April 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
472 robby57. “immigrants are the worst”
Really? Do us a favour then robby, no more shopping at Tesco, deffo stay out of Marks & Spencer, absolutely DO NOT eat fish and chips ever again, eschew a Friday night curry….guess where I am going with this robby.
Every time you drop one of your pearls of wisdom into the comment thread I find more reason to berate myself for ever having thought racists would gravitate to the BNP like…well I would say a moth to a flame, but more apt would be like flies to the stinking carcass of a dead dog.
April 21st, 2009 at 12:39 am
i think british food is quite bland. i went to america and bought some of my favourite sweets (skittles) and was amazed that they antualy tasted realy strong.
i also note that american portion sizes are huge when you’re there. i mean really, for 5 dollars i got a huge plate of steak and chips. and could get myself a decent size cooked breakfast for 2 dollers.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:00 am
I’ve lived in Britain for the best part of 48 years, and I really don’t know what is actually meant by “British Food”
Roast Beef/Lamb/Pork/Chicken – with or without Yorkshire pudding? Cottage, Shepherd or Cumberland Pie? Steak & Kidney pie – or pudding? Bangers & mash? Pie & Mash? Jellied Eels? Fish & Chips? Steak & chips?
We are told (I can’t remember by whom) that Britains favourite dish is now Chicken Tikka Massala.
When going out to eat we tend to look for Thai, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Lebanese, Italian, French or Greek restaurants. If you want some “British” grub you have to go now to a pub. Or Simpsons on the Strand.
The comment about portion sizes – I think that’s more about US portion sizes that British ones. In my experience, you do tend to get very similarly sized portions in the rest of Europe to those you get in the UK.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:28 am
Quote: the average temperature can become bitterly cold (between 0 and 6 degrees C)
That’s bitterly cold? You have no idea what cold is! I don’t even take off my flip flops for those temperatures!
April 21st, 2009 at 5:48 am
479. Captain Sassy Sillytits – Cold is relative to what you are used to.
If you come to Britain from Queensland, perhaps, where it rarely dips below 20C and is often hotter that 29C then you will find a damp and windy 2C bitterly cold.
If on the other hand you’ve arrived from Prudhoe Bay you’ll probably find anything above freezing positively balmy.
In the early part of the summer when the temperature reaches 14C or 15C – you’ll see people in t-shirts and shorts. Then after a warm summer when it starts to cool down again to those temperatures in September or October, you’ll see everyone putting on jumpers and coats.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:51 am
480. Halfcrown : “..If you come to Britain from Queensland, perhaps, where it rarely dips below 20C and is often hotter that 29C then you will find a damp and windy 2C bitterly cold…”
Bitterly cold… BITTERLY COLD!!! I would *die* at those temperatures – I’m from QLD as well, Rockhampton, bloody hot up here
April 21st, 2009 at 7:45 am
I’ve never actually been to Oz – but I do have family there – I’m told that “There’s hot, there’s stupidly hot, and then there’s Cairns”.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Northern Ireland does not have its own anthem. If an anthem is to be played then its God Save the Queen, and yes if we are playing England then its God Save the Queen twice. Rugby is an all island team so its Irelands Call, or Soldier’s Song depending on home or away.
The Northern Ireland Assembly is back up and running. Although many matters are still reserved for colonial masters in Westminster.
Money printed by the four main banks can be passed with difficulty in England. Many borders in Northern Ireland, especially large urban areas such as Derry use the Euro in most places.
April 21st, 2009 at 2:05 pm
482. Halfcrown : “There’s hot, there’s stupidly hot, and then there’s Cairns”
They are very wise words. But it’s not the heat that gets ya, it’s the humidity up in Cairns. The hot air hits you like a wall when you walk outside and you’re wet within seconds. Very sticky and not much fun… And now Robby Fowler is going to play football for the NQ Fury – our season is in the Summer – lols!
April 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
To hell with the eurolanders european union fascists and their databases.
It was on the 10th of September 1984, at 9.05 am, that Sir Alec Jeffreys, in his lab at Leicester University, accidentally made a world-changing discovery:
Said Jeffreys: “I was on my own in the darkroom at 9.05 on September 10, 1984, when that pattern came up and I twigged what we had stumbled upon. Just that single bit of X-ray film threw open a door we didn’t even know was there. It opened the whole science of forensic DNA.”
This 1980s discovery has had a tremendous influence on crime detection, and, less happily, led to the setting-up of the current UK National Database. Which, as we all know, retains the DNA of many, many innocent people.
Now Sir Alec has spoken up in an interview with the Guardian:
“My view is very clear that if you have been convicted of a crime then you owe it to society to be retained on that database for catching in the future should you reoffend. But the retention of entirely innocent people is a whole different issue. There is a sort of presumption here that if they haven’t committed any crime now, then they will in the future.”
He also called for improved genetic testing procedures, warning that the current system could result in a miscarriage of justice.
Jeffreys’ genetic discoveries at Leicester University in the mid-1980s enabled the establishment of the national DNA database 10 years later; it is now the largest in the world, storing details on more than 5 million people.
Thank you, Sir Alec, for speaking out against the guilty-until-proven-innocent ethos of the Database.
April 22nd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Great article. enjoyed reading!
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:18 am
I dunno if it’s a misconception or not, but I must say that English women are ugly. Men too, but not that much. At least I can remember 4-5 goodlooking english actors. But if you consider Kate Moss as a beautiful model, then you’re blind.
And one more thing! What about the stolen Elgin marbles of Parthenon. They are still Greek I suppose.
Or that’s another one misconception?
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:22 am
485. HEREWARD THE WAKE : Were you high and/or drunk at the time of composition and posting of that comment?
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:51 am
The NHS is free wiether you have cancer, get hit by a car or fall over drunk its always free – long term as well the only thing i am aware that is no included is dental care if it is not an emergency……and even the if you smash up your teeth then you cn see an emergency dentist for free
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 am
What are you on?? its 12pm and i have had like 46 cups of tea….and its rainig!!
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 am
Greek (487) Whether Elgin actually had legal title of the Marbles at the time he removed/recovered them from Athens is the subject of debate and dispute by minds more knowledgeable and legally trained than mine.
As I understand it, Elgin obtained, or thought he had obtained, or alledged he had obtained permission from the Ottomans to remove the sculptures. He then sold them to the British goverment, who placed them in the British Museum, which is where they still are.
I think I’m right in saying that the argument is over the legality and existance of documentation of that permission. I suspect it will run and run, and will be a continued thorn in the side of Anglo-Greek relationships.
I don’t think there’s any misconceptions there – the Greek position is very clear: the Marbles were removed illegally and should be returned. There are no isconceptions in thee British Museum’s position either – that is too very clear: the Marbles were legally owned by Elgin at the time he sold them to the Nation.
April 24th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Halfcrown
Basically I agree with you. But please take into consideration that England made a deal with the occupators of Greece, the Turks, which of course were not the owners of these marbles. These marbles belonged to Greece.
I think in most cases, the treasures that the Nazis looted or sometimes bought during WWII, were returned to their respectful owners after the war.
April 24th, 2009 at 4:35 am
Greek, a couple of comments on that -
(a) it was Lord Elgin who negotiated with the Ottomans on his own account (even though he was the UK ambassador to the Ottomans at the time) rather than on behalf of England (or even the UK). He later sold the sculptures to the Nation, largely because he had became short of money.
(b) The Ottomans did take Greece by force – taking Athens in 1453. This was of course some 348 years before Elgin started to have the sculptures removed. I think it would be very difficult to argue that the Ottomans were simply occupiers at that time. Taking land by force was certainly not considered illegal in the 15th Century – it was not thought of as illegal even in the 19th century.
There was no Greece at the time to own the artifacts – nor any independent Greek government in exile to argue the case. Although now clearly seen as being against the wishes of the Greek people – at the time, that would not have been seen as a legitimate concern – and permission from the Ottomans (assuming he actually did have permission!) would be all he legally needed.
(c) In contrast, the Nazi occupation of Europe was 6 years – and even after 60 years, not all of the loot has been returned, and much of it is hidden from view.
April 24th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Halfcrown
Back to misconceptions. Sorry for the long reply.
(a). With the power that King of England gave to him, Elgin proceed to business actions with the Ottomans. There aren’t many cases (at least known) where the Turks made deals with individual buyers-traders. They wanted to play good with the King.
For God’s shake, Elgin was the higher representative of British Empire in Greece.
(b). An occupier is an occupier. Greeks preserved all basic elements of a nation during their 400 years under the Turks. That was :
language, history, religion, origin, ethnicity, belief to democracy.
I know it’s difficult for a Non-Greek to understand, what our nation suffered all these 400 years of occupation, and it’s even difficult to understand how did they find the power to revolt.
Most of our neighboors in Albania, Bulgaria, Skopje, even Moldavia, Romania, where altered so much from turkish occupation, that is difficult to distinguish Turks from them.
For example half of Albanian population is Muslim. About 25% of “FYR Macedonians” speak turkish dialects.
I think that our strong history and religion hold us unite and armed our hands against occupators.
Even if it took 400 or 1000 of years, the revolution would started as long as these elements were preserved.
Turks knew this very well when they start dealing with traders in order to erase our history. I want to believa that England took part in these actions without a malicious purpose.
Another one thing is the legitimacy of taking lands by force. Modern Greece was never an imperialistic power to understand the reasons for such a behavior.
Even ancient Greece and Byzantium, firstly preserved and promote culture and civilization and then trade and slavery. (Around 1000 years before the British end slavery).
To say that there is no Greece for a specific period of time, in the same place that ancient and Modern Greece both existed, is a matter that lacks of seriousness.
c. All occupators are occupators. People or countries that dealed with a junta or an occupacy are accomplices. Clinton apologized inside the Greek parliament for the erroneous actions of US government that lead to the rise of junta in Greece which eventually caused the loss of Cyprus.
We’re still waiting for an apology from the British side on both matters.
April 24th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Halfcrown and Greek:
I have to enter into this discussion and come down 100% on the side of “Greek” on this one—as everyone knows here, I’m a Hellonophile from way back, but I’m capable of being objective. But even in my objectivity this whole issue burns me up.
To begin with, no–the Turks were never “legitimate” rulers of Greece–they were conquering occupiers, pure and simple. Halfcrown’s ludicrous notion seems to be that it matters how LONG an occupier is in place, to determine if it is no longer an “occupation” but something else; well perhaps if this stretches out to a VERY long time (one can surely no longer call present-day Europeans “occupiers” of some of the lands they inhabit, even though, some 4000+ years ago, they wrested these lands from the original inhabitants) but in the case of the Turks in Greece, no. They were occupiers, pure and simple. Would a hundred years occupation of Europe have made the Nazis more “legitimate” Halfcrown, in your view? Or even 300 years? I would hope not.
In regards to Lord Elgin, it hardly matters a whit what “permission” he had at the time–permission can be granted by occupying powers or the strong of any region or nation to pillage a weaker entity—this hardly constitutes actual “rightness” or justice in the truest sense–including that of international law. A legalistic argument that Elgin had the “right” to remove the marbles because he was given some sort of permission to do so is skirting the issue—there WAS in fact an “entity” (if not an actual nation in the modern “legal” sense) called Greece at the time, and the Greeks, as such, were NOT consulted.
Don’t buy this, Halfcrown? Then look at the situation currently extant in regards to archeology of Native American sites. Native Americans have won several court battles which indicate a clear right, on their part, to deny what THEY feel to be “archeological pillaging” of their ancestral graves and lands. Now, as an amateur archeologist and someone who knows a thing or two about the discipline, I don’t necessarily agree with these rulings and this apparent mandate—but I can also see the side of the indigenous people in the matter. Their beliefs are such that they hold the sacred nature of their sites and artifacts ABOVE the dictates and necessity of modern science—and at present the law leans quite far in the direction of respecting that.
The situation in Greece is and was hardly very different. Elgin’s actions were those of a plunderer, however well-meaning they may have been, and however much they may have served some larger goal of science (though even that is debatable, very debatable) and in the end they only served to further deteriorate ruins which we ALL should hold “sacred” in a sense, as they are the seminal touchstones (pardon the pun) of our entire civilization.
The marbles should be returned—and should never have been taken in the first place.
April 25th, 2009 at 10:54 am
LIE.
“The NHS is also not available to non-British citizens except in the case of emergency. Even then the emergency must have taken place within Britain.”
This is a lie. I am French, yet I get free healthcare in the UK, even for trivial things. Yes, OBVIOUSLY it is paid for by taxes or donations, what else did you expect?? Nothing not run by charity is entirely free, but it does not get much more free than the NHS.
April 25th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
huh, you’d think when you talk to a person from britain your to know the truth…..jokes..
anyway i really think that i’ve heard about the rain and the tea one before…its so much as being simply hysterical.
April 27th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Randal
Thanks, man!!
April 27th, 2009 at 10:01 am
the rain isnt a misconception, trust me, i’m english. also, i think that, while a small contribution is required, the nhs is as close to free as could possibly be expected.
April 27th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Monarchy is still in place in NZ not because of ceremonial or tourist reasons. the main reason is the changeover to a fully elected system causes huge ructions. for instance what are the presidents powers, ceremonial or executive ? who gets to participate in appointing the top judges ? does the new system mean the elimination of all privilege ? what happens to the military,( at present has personal allegiance to the monarchy) ? Every time this is raised there are too many players competing for the spoils, that the status quo wins out. we don’t pay taxes to the Queen, so no Boston tea party to kick things off!!!!
April 28th, 2009 at 9:25 am
1 scottish money is legal tender, it should be accepted by every store in the uk but as it is in low circulation it is easy to fake so many stores will not accept it. all shops are obliged by law to accept it but at the same time they can turn down money if they believe it to be inadequate.
god save the queen is the anthem song at the olympics for britain i think that qualifies it as national anthem.
thirdly the nhs will provide any required medical services but outsourcing to private companies such as bupa.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Wow I’m from New Zealand and while I knew most of these because NZ is very similar to Britain, I NEVER knew that we had two national anthems?!!! In primary school we are taught God Defend New Zealand in english and maori and sing it for many occasions, but I had no idea about God Save The Queen!
Shit thats prob not very good haha
And yeh Australia and NZ are both quite similar to Britain. We say Tea instead of Dinner a lot, but the term Dinner is still used alot.
May 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 am
That List is very misleading The NHS one is completely wrong, yes you pay for the Treatment in taxes but not the treatment you receive, plus you don’t have to be a british citizen at all to recieve free treatment, Because when you go into a hospital they don’t ask for proof of who you are, ID or even a passport. Also ALL treatment is free From a Skin rash to Cancer So i really suggest you sort that one out and other ones are wrong aswell, Shit!
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Since I enjoy being pedantic…
> GSTQ is the national anthem of Britain
No, it’s the national anthem of the United Kingdom.
> Scottish Banknotes.
Scottish banknotes differ in more than design. British banknotes are issued by the Bank of England. Scottish banknotes are issued by various (private) Scottish banks. (E.g. Clydesdale, RBS) Scottish banknotes are effectively fancy IOUs, since all issued notes have to be backed by a pound sterling. I.e. The scottish banks have to deposit UK Pounds with the Bank of England equivilent to the value of notes that they have issued.
They actually have no legal status in England, which is why most people won’t accept them.
> NHS
Sorry, but this section is VERY inaccurate. Most people in the UK, regardless of how much treatment they need, will never pay (directly, other than tax) apart from some prescription fees.
May 4th, 2009 at 3:25 am
They [Scottish banknotes] actually have no legal status in England, which is why most people won’t accept them.
igc – since you admit to being pedantic, allow me to correct the inaccuracy in the above statement. Scottish notes do, indeed, have a clear “legal status”, as defined in at least 4 separate Acts of Parliament (start with Bank Notes (Scotland) Act 1845).
It should also be said that Scottish notes enjoy exactly the same standing in England as they do in Scotland. The reason English merchants can be reluctant to accept them is due to either unfamiliarity with them, or confusing the concept of legal tender with the acceptability of Scottish notes – this has been well covered in earlier postings. (For the avoidance of doubt, Scottish notes are not legal tender anywhere – including in Scotland).
May 4th, 2009 at 3:26 am
oops, sorry. HTML tag typo in the above. First sentence, only s/be italicised.
May 7th, 2009 at 1:03 am
The N.H.S. can also be used, totally free of charge, by citizens of nations with agreements with the U.K. – for example Russia.
May 11th, 2009 at 2:57 am
30. Ryan: “The National Health Service is free at the point of treatment. Exactly the same as any other person around the world who has health insurance.”
That’s quite a generalization. I cannot speak for other countries or even other states in the U.S., but, while it was the case for many of us 10 years ago, I currently know of no person in Oregon who does not pay the second they enter the doctor’s office or hospital. Even the homeless have to pay a minimum of $10 (7.4 EUR) at a “charitable” clinic, and we pay $50 for emergency treatment. Now that’s just when you first arrive. Many medical facilities won’t let you leave without paying a percentage of your bill. Yes, this is WITH insurance. Insurance companies will pitch that they cover 90% (or even 100%) of most medical costs, but the fine print says otherwise. I pay $200 per month for what is considered to be above-average medical insurance. With this insurance, I accrued $5,000 (3700 EUR) in medical bills in one year which is not uncommon for someone who is afficted with more than a cold. This is one reason why the U.S. has such a high infant mortality rate. The 20% of us who live in poverty can’t afford to see a doctor, and some doctors, afraid they won’t be paid, tell their patients it’s “all in your head” once they realize the low-income patient likely has an expensive illness. During the past few years, I’ve heard more and more people with the same story: “my doctor says I’m imagining my symptoms.”
Just as everyone else is annoyed by stereotypes of their nationality, I want to make it clear that not all Americans are ignorant, overweight, and livin’ on easy street.
On a side note to the person who claimed that no one in the U.S. wants the jobs that the immigrants take: you are obviously upper-middle class, or you live like you are. There is nothing degrading about picking cabbage or shoveling manure if that’s what you have to do to feed your family. I live in an area where the unemployment rate is 14%, and many of us would love to have a low-paying, manual-labour job. Those that exist are taken. I don’t have a problem with immigration so much as I have a problem with the world’s over-population in general.
May 11th, 2009 at 8:39 am
508. eph , So come to California. Walk into any ER and you can walk out without paying a cent. You’ll have a bill in your hand, but if you can’t afford it, the hospital’s billing department will work with you to cut it down to a size you can afford…or go to one of the big County Hospitals and everything is free.
Doctors offices all have signs, clearly posted, that your co-pay is due at time of service, which is why the County Hospital is so over worked, but if you have no other choice, then it’s a good deal.
I now have the worlds best health insurance, but once upon a time I had to deal with all the messiness of the charity hospital system, and I was grateful it was there.
Your state probably has a similar system about which you are just not aware. Check it out.
May 11th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Segue, I’ve considered going to CA. The 9 hour drive might be worth it.
May 11th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
eph, it would be worth it if your state doesn’t offer County or Free Clinic facilities.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Bel – Actually, Great Britain DOES include Northern Ireland. Look it up.
May 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
As for the scottish bank notes thing, I worked in retail in England, for many years, I was never told that I COULDN’T accept it, yes I was told I could refuse, I used to accept it if i was running the store as I saw no difference from that to me using my english notes in scotland/Northern Ireland. ANY monies that are sterling are legal tender in great britain, the only reason someone would refuse to accept notes from outside england, in england, is that they dont recognise it, and therefore cannot check the notes for any indication that they are fraudulent. When I worked in retail, we were only told what to look for in terms of fake money in regards to English notes.
May 16th, 2009 at 11:49 am
What you said about Scottish banknotes:
“…the fact that most people outside of Scotland rarely see it…”
would perhaps read more accurately with the “outside” omitted.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
I too am a Brit so I can clear up a few things. Firstly, it is correct that Great Britain is the name of the island. Northern Ireland is in Ireland. It is called great to distinguish it from Brittany which at once time had the same name. The UK is the political name for what is a union, much like the EU. The four (or more depending on your point of view) countries of the UK joined voluntarily though there has been talk of Northern Ireland and Scotland leaving the union which I think would be a same as the golden ages of Wales, Scotland, Ireland and Northern Ireland occurred while they were part of the UK. (England’s is commonly thought to be under Elizabeth I’s reign)
The problem with British teeth comes from the fact that British people gave their babies Rose hip syrup in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Loaded with sugar it would rot their teeth. Hence the British teeth. However, these days British people still have strange teeth. Firstly, because they consume vast amounts of sugar (a cultural sign of wealth from the start of the sugar plantations in the West Indies)Secondly, because British dentists charge for ‘cosmetic dentistry’ whilst enamel filings are free. Finally, British teeth are often yellow. Yellow teeth are actually stronger than white teeth but people don’t realize that an bleach or cap their teeth which weakens them.
Technically the monarch has no power, but that’s the whole point. Oliver Cromwell’s Interregnum made British people realize what Lord Acton said, that ‘power corrupts and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely’. Any one person ruling a country, a king, an emperor, a lord protector or a president would abuse that power. The solution is a person who has absolute power and no power and the same time. The constitutional monarchy. The Queen has no power but she prevents anyone else from having power as well.
The Queen’s English is neither a dialect nor an accent but the articulate annunciation of English. It’s a common mistake that the English are the only people who use it but it is also used in New England and parts of Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Hong Kong. It can adopt any accent which is why the RP of Lancastrians Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart sounds so different to the RP of Londoners Kate Beckinsdale and Keira Knightingly. However, Australians Sam Neill and American Kelsey Grammar also speak with a form of RP.
The NHS does indeed suck as does most of Britain’s welfare state. It’s shocking to realize that Britain’s pay just 1% less tax than Sweden. The latter runs like a Swiss clock, The former like a watch made in China and found in a cereal box. However, it was the first welfart state and at least we can be proud of that.
Most places won’t take Scottish money. They should but they’re a little bit weey A little bit weeer. Don’t turn you back on them.
London has less rain that Rome. The reason Britain has a bad rep on weather is because the weather is very changeable. This is because Britain sits on the gulf stream where the world’s weather is made. The advantage of this is Britain is much warmer than it should being this far north. The disadvantage of it is that you can have four seasons in one day. Pack an umbrella, be prepared.
I’ve read that Britain consumes 1/3 of the world’s tea and that the average Briton drinks 7 cups a day. I can’t substantiate this but I drink about 14 cups a day and I love it. The fact that every British supermarket has an aisle for tea and an aisle for biscuits seems to support it. British tea is a unique blend of black and red teas that often surprises visitors who expect it to taste like normal black tea. It must be drunk with milk as black tea alone can give you throat cancer.
May 18th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
To Astraya – Many countries have the same word for Britain and England. To quote Michael Jackson from South Park; ‘It’s because they’re ignorant. Just ignorant’. However, the Korean word ‘Yong-gu’ comes from the Chinese meaning ‘land of the heroes’. Which is nice and possibly true. They call America ‘The land of the fair’, Korea ‘Land of the river people’ and the Japanese ‘Land of the dwarves’.
May 19th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Black tea and red tea. Interesting. Maybe that is why I have never been able to duplicate the tea my mum always served at home!
Drat! Now I’m going to have to find some authentic English or Australian tea.
May 19th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Number 8 is is so a myth there are so many great dentists in the uk doing great work!!
http://www.lifestyledental.co.uk
May 19th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
A Czech friend of mine was a dentist and he predicted that, with the regular use of toothpaste and dental floss, there will be no need for dentists in the future.
May 21st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Sam Neill is from New Zealand, not Australia. He even owns a house not far from where I live.
May 22nd, 2009 at 1:25 am
Sam Neill is from New Zealand
Indeed he is; though he was born (and spent his early childhood) in Northern Ireland.
May 23rd, 2009 at 1:34 pm
512. =D – May 15th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Bel – Actually, Great Britain DOES include Northern Ireland. Look it up.
Actually Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom and NOT Great Britain. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales.
May 27th, 2009 at 9:53 am
we dont have an official national anthem and England doesn’t have an official capital city! its true but i dont really get it cus London defo is?!?… its jst ‘technically’ there has never been a proper confirmation of London as the capital of England. also wtf number 1 is pretty wrong! i drink lyk 4-5 cups of tea a day n more or less everyone else i know drinks at least 2 a day?!? maybe its jst where i live?
May 27th, 2009 at 10:16 am
England looks fukin awesome in summer wen its blue skies n long nights…no place i would rather be…well i live in a national park so its beautiful here but there are definitely some shitholes. and it does rain alot but it makes the good days seem like gifts.. wen thers a sunny hot day in england everyone turns jolly n happy lol and we defo apreciate good weather more than others.
June 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 am
BRITAIN RULES
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!
#10 is something that’s been bugging me for years – not because I don’t like being called British but because the people calling me British ALWAYS mean English. And the accent is another thing that drives me mad – every American-made film or TV show with an English character seems to speak with six plums in their mouth.
June 5th, 2009 at 10:00 am
What regional area accent does Stewie from Family Guy speak ? Just Wondering.
June 12th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
what is scotland’s national anthem is it ’scotland the brave’ or ‘flower of scotland’?
June 17th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Nice list, it annoys me how almost every English character on a tv show seems to speak so posh xP I don’t know anyone who talks like that.
I like our regional accents, a young lad from Kenya who worked in this charity shop said he was amazed at how the accent can change so much by travelling for a short amount of time, whereas where he lived most people had pretty much the same accent.
p.s. I’m addicted to tea.
p.p.s. I want to see a scouser on CSI: New York.
June 28th, 2009 at 5:52 am
bigski : Stewie speaks in a very posh and over exaggerated form of standard english. almost no one in england speaks like that. im english and from north yorkshire, which is a county (our equivelent of a state)
just over 3 quarters up the country, and many southerners who speak like stewie would not know what i was saying.
PS : whoever said that britain was the most racist place in the world, what about south africa or the ex confederate states like Alabama or Louisiana, loads of english people say that there v.racist and homophobic. when TopGear, a british motoring show, and one of the most popular shows in britain, went over to the deep south and wrote stuff like “man love rules” down the side of a chevy camaro and a dodge ram and drove them through alabama, and got chucked out of several towns.i suppose thats an unfair stereotype though. if you are from the south (US) please tell me where i am wrong)
June 29th, 2009 at 6:38 am
I’m a Brit and even I’m shocked by some of these!
July 23rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
it makes me laugh how we put gravy on everything
apart from an English breakfast
and how cynical and negative we all are but if we don’t have a day without moaning its not right
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:04 pm
and how nearly all other country’s in Europe hate us for binge drinking there
we get known for drinking tea when really it should be for being the most binge drinking nation
July 25th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
i always wonder… if the queen and all the other royalties in your country only has the same function as an glorified flag. then why not just abolish it? it is your taxes that pays for their very lavish and lucrative existence if i am correct. dont want to offend any of our british friends but i find keeping a king or queen that actually dont rule and control the laws of his or her kingdom… quite useless.
August 7th, 2009 at 7:33 am
I live in London and I disagree:
most of them do have bad teeth and don’t care about the way their teeth look;
real ale must be drunk at room temperature;
it rains a lot!
August 11th, 2009 at 4:17 am
since when has the republic been referred to as the British isles. Typical brit!!!!
August 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Americans drink their beer much colder because it’s got the flavor of monkey urine if it’s warm. Those Americans who say that the U.S. is the greatest country have never been anywhere else. Disney is for kids; Amsterdam is the Happiest place on earth(if you’re a hedonist like I am).
August 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
@kennypo65 (537): Americans drink their beer much colder because it’s got the flavor of monkey urine if it’s warm.
Heh good one, and more often than not, true. But also, to a certain degree we have been conditioned through advertising that it is a refreshing drink on a hot day…ergo the colder the better. Phrases such as “Let’s have a cold one” are common here in the states.
August 21st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
530-Thanks for the info Tom.
I dont even know what monkey urine taste like and I also will not drink warm beer. I guess I have no culture,BUT im drinking an ice cold bud now.
P.S. It`s damn good too !!
August 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 am
Greek: You offend me.English women are no uglier than any other nation s women.So shut up .And btw, im english with greek heritage and yet to meet an attractive greek.How d ya like that ?
August 23rd, 2009 at 3:51 am
lol so we dont have an official anthem, London was never officially declared as the capital city, England doesnt have its own parliament…. We might as well not exist lol.
Oh and Gordon Brown gets on my tits man.Cant wait for 2020 so we can kick his ass outta there
August 23rd, 2009 at 3:57 am
Oh yes, Sam Neill is from New Zealand but he was born in Northern Ireland to his father, Dermot (New Zealander) and his mother Priscilla (English).Hemoved to New Zealand at the age of 7.
Sorry- last post was supposed to be 2010, not 2020
August 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
A huge number of NHS services ARE free. I’ve been to hospital many times since childhood, for various accidents and conditions. I never had to pay, waiting lists are longer but it’s usually always free. Weird.
Also Engish people are not obliged to accept Scottish money but if you are exiting a taxi and the taxi driver refuses to accept your Scottish notes then you are allowed to leave without paying. You offered him legal tender and he refused it. Boo hoo.
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:21 am
The only thing that unites England , Scotland , Wales and N. Ireland is our hatred of the french
September 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
@Tom: That and being useless, racist, homo protestants
September 16th, 2009 at 7:39 am
i feel quite upset Jfrater that there seems to be a little bit of racism from that Tom character. First off, you share the same name so at first i thought it was me who was racist, then the fact that not everyone hates the French, alot of people just dont care either way, then there’s is the fact that nobody in the world seems to be friendly to ‘a brit’ (thanks for giving us a world name of obese, bad toothed, beer swigging, foul mouthed drunken football hooligans who in the whole of England only about 1% even know that there are other languages apart from English)
im having a funtime on this site, many a hour passed while at work, can we have more lists about religion? i dont care for it but love the soap opera side.
September 26th, 2009 at 4:43 am
Who said rain is bad weather, i personally love it when people stay inside so as not to get wet, it leaves everywhere empty and me free to roam whilst not giving a care in the world as to temperature or puddles, im all ready soaked i dont care.
However i do drink excessive ammounts of tea – 6-7 cups a day, about a litre of tea a day judging from my cups.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
I live in Belize, and some people here still refer to Supper as “tea” …
September 28th, 2009 at 8:23 am
@ (547) i agree with you about rain…somtimes just going out to get soaking is such a mind cleanser.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:09 am
You’re Number 1 point on “British Nation”, you gave a wrong impression of the British identity.
Our country is called United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, often called UK, Great Britain, and Britain for short; but is meant to suggest the whole UK country.
English people are not just technically British – they Are British and are SEEN as such, it is nothing at all like calling a Canadian, North American.
As for government – the country, UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), have one main national government, and that is it’s British Parliament in Westminster, London.
Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have local Assemblies and Parliaments like they have in Bavaria, Germany or in Many different areas of Australia, but the main parliament is the National Parliament of Westminster, like in most other countries,
As for the NHS, you implied that it’s not free nor will you get all the drugs available to you. You gave the impression that it’s a very poor service with Very basic services as opposed to other health services, when that impression is very much unfounded.
The NHS is free at the point of service, although, in parts of the UK, you may have to pay a prescription charge (but seeing the doctor is free), and you get free access to all services from Cancer treatments to dermatology, from IVF to reflexology etc., like you would do in any other western country.
The NHS is far from a Basic service.
October 11th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
i am British and i love it here. its a beautiful country,depending on what parts u visit! i prefer coffee not tea though,i have good teeth and i can speak ‘proper’
and i hate the BNP!!
i do not hate the french,in fact i love france and the majority of the people there are lovely. i love the rain,and when it rarely snows where i live. i also find that British women are beautiful(though often quite loud!) and no matter where in the world u are u will find women who are deemed ‘ugly’ .
October 28th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
who the fuck is that racist gimp using my name
November 1st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Thought this was poorly researched and I’d almost certainly say written by someone who is English. It does not touch upon the fact most Scots completely reject God Save the Queen as a ‘British’ anthem and apparently there is a verse referring to crushing the Scots (although who can confirm this as its a boring song noone knows more than a few lines to). Its also incorrect really to say that all countries within Britain have their own parliament as Wales only has an assembly which does not give it access to most parliamentary powers.
Oh and Ive never heard of people having tea for dessert, NOONE speaks the ‘queens english’ other than the queen and it might have been good to mention that the Isle of Man also has its own version of sterling and that Scotland has £1 notes (completely pointless as they are).
More research please!
November 1st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Oh and it pretty much does rain here all the time!
November 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
we are not british we are ENGLISH!!!
November 14th, 2009 at 11:00 am
‘Bitterly cold’… between zero and six degrees celsius?
We call that balmy in Canada. As you mentioned, Britain and England are not the same thing. If you go to Scotland, which, as you evidenced is part of Great Britain, it will be raining in August.
Trust me, I went – my family lives there. According to them it’s always like that.
Your writing style is inconsistent. You need to work on your flow. >.<
November 15th, 2009 at 2:25 am
Sorry, dont agree about the weather. We may not have extremes but the reality is nearly all year round the weather in Britain is grey and miserable. A typical day in July looks much the same as a typical day in November. We cant enjoy outdoor activities in the summer (especially in 2007/08 and 09!) and we get little or no snow to enjoy in the winter, just relentless rain and drizzle.
November 15th, 2009 at 3:55 am
there’s lots of mistakes! For example the NHS is only available to british citizens?! Since when? It’s available to all people who live (legally) in Britain for periods longer than six months! (Otherwise I would get no treatment after paying taxes for more than four years) And when isn’t treatment not free? Only drugs can be charged. There are other incosistencies, but that’s the major one
November 15th, 2009 at 10:21 am
In live in S.A., went to U.K. last year – food was okay, just tons of tea, and gravy with EVERYTHING. Mabye it was just the people I stayed with…but they have yummy chocolate!
November 21st, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Sam27 “…If you think we’re whingers, listen to the Welsh! Even when they’re not whinging they sound like they are! The best example is probably Jonathan Davies, the Rugby commentator, though you won’t find any pictures of him.”
Well, that is an appalling generalisation if ever I have heard one. The main “whinging” I hear going on in our country is all the English people, moving into our country *unwanted, may I add* and complaining in their best English about “the uneducated natives and their heathen language and culture”, and doing their best to stamp out our ever decreasing number. On the other hand, I suppose we Welsh do have something to whinge about, with the English invading our land a killing our language. Why is it that for people immigrating to Britain it is necessary to learn English, but it is not necessary to learn Welsh when moving to Wales? It’s absurd.
As the last line from the chorus of our anthem goes “O Bydded I’r Heniaith Barhau” – Let Our Old Language Endure. I just pray that my generation is not the last to speak Welsh. In my school, a Welsh school, there are only ten of us taking it for A level. Slightly depressing really.
Na ddioddefwn gawell y Saes.
November 21st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Sam27 “…If you think we’re whingers, listen to the Welsh! Even when they’re not whinging they sound like they are! The best example is probably Jonathan Davies, the Rugby commentator, though you won’t find any pictures of him.”
Well, that is an appalling generalisation if ever I have heard one. The main “whinging” I hear going on in our country is all the English people, moving into our country *unwanted, may I add* and complaining in their best English about “the uneducated natives and their heathen language and culture”, and doing their best to stamp out our ever decreasing number. On the other hand, I suppose we Welsh do have something to whinge about, with the English invading our land a killing our language. Why is it that for people immigrating to Britain it is necessary to learn English, but it is not necessary to learn Welsh when moving to Wales? It’s absurd.
As the last line from the chorus of our anthem goes “O Bydded I’r Heniaith Barhau” – Let Our Old Language Endure. I just pray that my generation is not the last to speak Welsh. In my school, a Welsh school, there are only ten of us taking it for A level. Slightly depressing really.
And Jonathan Davies is a fantastic man, such a funny commentator! Rugby just wouldn’t be the same without him.
Na ddioddefwn gawell y Saes.
December 24th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
One type of beer served in England that is properly served at room temperature is stout which is a very dark and thick beer. Its full flavour can be appreciated only at room temperature.
December 27th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Family Guy is a prime example for most of these things. It angers me that they are leading young Americans to believe that English people are actually like this.
Go watch the very beginning of Pulp Fiction,
He’s the type of English guy I wanna be (:
January 8th, 2010 at 3:26 am
Don’t give the Nazis the oxygen of publicity.
@JONNY: We are English and British. Only uneducated or ultranationalist English people think they are “not British”.
By the way, half of these 10 facts are wrong, the whole list should just be removed. e.g. “Newsreaders are told to use Queens English so that they can be understood by all”. WRONG! Not true for decades. Many newsreaders use their own local accents, but obviously using standard English, rather than local dialects, so that they can be understood by all.
January 22nd, 2010 at 7:21 pm
This list is a pack of lies. Completely rediculous and some of it is totally untrue. I myself am english and I know for a FACT that most of this list is complete rubbish.
1- Britain is a country in the same way that America is a country. Its just easier to say than ‘The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland’
2- Many people, myself included prefer to drink ale at room temperature, anyone who chills an ale or bitter is wrong and should be punched in the face and sent back to their lager pubs with a tear in their eye. Ale is supposed to be served at room temperature as chilling it takes away the flavour and encourages sediment to form in the beer.
3- God save the Queen is the national anthem of England and Great Britain. I dunno where you came up with your little speil but you are very very wrong.
4- The Queen, although not an absolute monarch, still has weekly meetings with the Prime Minister and still wields political power, she is not just a prop or a tourist attraction as you so rudely put it.
5- Each country in Britain does NOT have its own prime minister. They each have their own assembley but they are still ultimately governed by westminster.
6- newsreaders do not speak the queens english, or BBC english, its called RP or Received Pronunciation and its so they can be understood globally by any english speaker.
7- Scottish money is legal tender in the same way that shopkeepers are not obliged to take ANY money if they decide.
8- We may be 46th in the table of total rainfall but that doesnt take into account the frequency of it, just the amount. The thing with Britain is the fact that our weather is never extreme, we dont have long hot summers, we dont have cold snowy winters, we have fairly mild and changeable weather all year round. which means it rains a lot. but its also sunny a lot. and foggy and cloudy and windy. Its just very changeable.
9- 3rd most frequent tea drinkers in the world says to me that we drink a lot of tea… considering there are 196 countries and we drink more tea per capita than 193 of them
January 25th, 2010 at 4:51 pm
“While it is true that emergency treatment is almost always free of charge, treatment for long-term illness or injury is almost always charged.”
@ Moderator
This is inafact wrong!. I have been ill for several years each week it costs the nhs £130 in medication and every month i recive other treatment which totals £1000 and have never been charged. Also i know countless cases were the NHS has been always free to those who have paid though taxes (basicaly all the brittish public)and has been free all thier life, for example a girl who was on the news had M.E for 31 years and all the time it was free!. Maybe you should f*cking life here and see how the NHS does infact save your life when in the USA you might not have the money to pay for it?. The NHS works as an insurance and nothing is more inportant than your own health. Without the NHS i would be dead
Certain drugs will be provided for certain illnesses, but if your illness or the drugs and treatment you require is not on the “approved” list. You will not get it from the NHS. This is always a controversial issue in Britain.”
Yes but were talking a extremely small percentage and drugs that dont really work long term. Such as the life prolonging drug for terminal cancer which costs £32,000 a month and it only prolongs your life for six monnth. There are very few cases were people have been turned down for treatment
February 1st, 2010 at 3:36 am
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