I think from the previous two lists it is obvious that I love conspiracy theories. This contributed list looks at 10 more. It includes two things we have previously discussed on the site but gives a much more indepth explanation for them. The items are longer than usual but it is Sunday after all and the extra information is very interesting and worth keeping.
Go to any genealogy website and you can track down any family line that has been entered into the database. Yours, Tom Cruise’s, or Obama’s. Some purport to show a logical progression of names from President Barack Obama to the Merovingian Dynasty of ancient France.
The Merovingian Dynasty was founded by Merovech, aka Merovius I (410-459 AD). This line of royalty leads directly to the Carolingian Dynasty, founded by Charles “the Hammer” Martel, whose grandson was Charlemagne. I will not bother with a detailed bloodline, according to any of these sites. You can check them out. The weak point of this theory is that most of the sites are user-created and –edited, like Wikipedia, which means you should take what you read with a grain of salt until you can corroborate it with another source, preferably a more reputable one.
But the strong point of the theory is extremely intriguing. The fact is that Obama’s bloodline is truly laid out, without any gaps, all the way back to Merovech. Believers of this theory commonly believe the Jesus bloodline theory, which states that Jesus, through his daughter, leads directly to the Merovingian Dynasty, and from there to Obama.
It gets MUCH better. From the Merovingian Dynasty, not only is a direct path traceable to Jesus, but all the way back to Adam and Eve, but by a different line: this site has some very thorough databases, even if they might contain some errors, which trace Merovech directly back to High King Priam of Troy (the one from Homer’s Iliad), and from Priam to Judah, son of Jacob, son of Isaac, son of Abraham. And from Abraham to Adam.
Some believers of this conspiracy theory believe that this strengthens the possibility that President Obama is Satan or the Antichrist. In this context, according to the theory, the Priory of Sion (which actually doesn’t exist except in Dan Brown’s imagination – see here, item 6), of which you are sure to have heard, has bribed, cajoled, assassinated minor figures, including JFK, Jr., coerced, threatened, framed, including Ted Kennedy, by means of the Chappaquiddick incident, and blackmailed various political figures throughout the last third of the 20th Century, all in order to set up the Presidential reign of Barack Obama. But why? The Priory of Sion is said to be the official guard of the truth about the Jesus bloodline. Well, they also believe in the Revelation’s depiction of the End Days, in which case, hastening the Antichrist’s reign will hasten the (more or less) happy ending.
This one has a lot in common with the Montauk Project, and I would not have known to include it, had someone not drawn it to my attention. There is a top-secret military Air Force base built under Mount Archuleta, a mesa, northwest of the town of Dulce, New Mexico, which has, since as early as 1969, been conducting genetic research of a horrific nature.
The area around the town is notorious for cattle mutilations, and many of the residents, and conspiracy theorists, believe that extra-terrestrials are frequently present in the area for a very frightening reason. They are working in cooperation with the U. S. government to create a race of hybrid human-animal monsters, for use as weapons in war. This raises the question, are they currently being employed in Iraq or Afghanistan? No sightings have been published.
But the livestock known to have been mutilated since the 1970s are primarily cows, bulls, and horses. This means that the underground facility is creating centaurs, minotaurs, and possibly other hybrids. But based on the state of the cattle carcasses that have been found on the sides of highways, and in fields, over the years, these hybrids must be monstrously horrible, gory, stitched together like something out of “Frankenstein.”
The theory states that the base has several levels. No one knows how many, but either the 6th or 7th level is where the very worst, freakish experiments in genetic manipulation and mutation are carried out, primarily by the aliens, as the humans are in charge of the upper half or so of the base. This extra-terrestrial-controlled level is nicknamed “Nightmare Hall.”
The whole base was initiated by the CIA, first as an investigation into the UFO sightings so prevalent in the area. When the CIA discovered that aliens are really here, and mutilating cattle to study them, the CIA brokered a treaty of some sort between them and us, whereby we will work together in peace and learn from each other, at the expense of the poor cattle, and whatever humans are caught up as guinea pigs. The theory claims these are most likely people who will not be missed: vagabonds, street scum, homeless children, etc.
There are plenty of witness accounts and photographs documenting strange lights in the night sky around Dulce, as well as many daytime sightings of the infamous “Black Helicopters” swarming around Mount Archuleta.
The theory dates from the 1980s, and a single source, Paul Bennewitz, who claimed to work at the base as a physicist, until he discovered the horrors of Nightmare Hall. He then resigned, and the CIA did not brainwash him, evidently expecting that no one would believe such a fantastic story. Bennewitz died in 2005. Theorists claim he was quietly assassinated.
It is a fact, however, that the CIA and Air Force conducted an elaborate smear campaign to discredit Bennewitz as a deranged lunatic, and they forced him to go to mental hospitals at least three times. This seems to imply that they are apprehensive about what Bennewitz had to say.
In the late 1980s, Bennewitz provided aerial photographs to New Mexican newspapers of what he claimed was an alien aircraft that crashed near the alleged Dulce Base. An alien craft was never found at the suspected crash site.
Investigators did find evidence that something crashed in the area, but they were never able, or never chose, to confirm the story by Bennewitz. The photos he took have notes attached to them in his handwriting, claiming that certain objects in the photos are extra-terrestrial beings, and aircraft wreckage. These objects are difficult to view and do not provide enough detail to verify or deny the story.
In 1947, President Harry Truman supposedly gave an order for a secret committee of world-renowned scientists, generals, and politicians—12 people—to investigate the Roswell Incident. The committee concluded that the Incident truly was an extra-terrestrial spacecraft, which crash-landed, killing all occupants, typically numbered at 3 or 4.
M-12, for short, suggested an executive order to create a military installation solely to contain and study the aliens and their spacecraft, thus resulting in Area 51. Plenty of images of government correspondence relating directly to this organization are circulating the Internet, including the famous 1947 letter from President Truman, authorizing the CIA to create M-12. Skeptics argue that the letter is utterly forged.
This theory is based primarily on such documentation, all of which may be forged, or non-existent, beginning in 1978. One excerpt:
“The official US Government policy and results of Project Aquarius is [sic] still classified TOP SECRET with no dissemination outside channels and with access restricted to ‘MJ TWELVE.’”
The most convincing evidence, however, believed even by many skeptics to be authentic, is a document currently housed in the National Archives in Washington, D. C., which is headed: “Memorandum for General Twining, from Robert Cutler, Special Assistant to the President, Subject: “NSC/MJ-12 Special Studies Project.” “NSC” stands for National Security Council.
MJ-12 has made it into popular sci-fi culture, including “The X-Files,” and is usually imagined as a round-table discussion of twelve experts in what to do concerning the proof of the existence of extra-terrestrials, primarily how to keep the public in the dark. People accused of being members of MJ-12, at one time or another, include Albert Einstein, Robert Oppenheimer, Robert Cutler, Omond Solandt, Robert Sarbacher, John von Neumann (directly involved with the Philadelphia Experiment), Karl Compton, General Nathan Twining and Eric Walker.
This theory claims that there are warnings encoded in the Judeo-Christian Bible, which concern future catastrophes, including the assassinations of Lincoln and JFK, 9/11, the end of the world, the identity of the Antichrist, the location from which the Antichrist will rise to prominence, etc.
The code is based on equidistant letters in the Hebrew translation of the Old and the Koine Greek translation of the New Testaments. The most impressive support for it is that the Bible Code was suggested by Sir Isaac Newton himself. He hypothesized the equidistant letters, and attempted to decipher some prophecies using the Hebrew Bible, but had to begin at random places throughout the book. But the letters have proven to be encoded so far apart that Newton could not decipher any meaningful messages.
Newton was not the first. No history of the code has been found prior to Bachya ben Asher, a 1200s Spanish rabbi, who came up with one 4-letter example, which stated the zero point of the Hebrew calendar.
Aside from that example, there are almost no known decryptions of biblical text before the mid-20th Century. Newton gave up, and the theory dwindled until the advent of the supercomputer. Computers can decipher the messages using brute force, and it is a fact that messages exist in random places, using random letter distances, throughout the Bible. Skeptics cannot deny this, but that have denied that the messages mean anything relevant to reality.
The sheer presence of even one of these coded messages seems to prove that the theory is sound, but no good conspiracy theory is ever proved or disproved so easily. There are documented decryptions of very detailed 9/11 prophecies, including phrases such as “twin towers,” “destroyed,” “airplanes,” “two,” “bin Laden,” “al-Qaeda,” “Pentagon,” even “Shanksville,” and the exact date, “11 September 2001.” Rumors that the times, to the minute, of the airplanes’ impact into the WTC are so far unsubstantiated.
But there are similarly detailed decryptions of Lincoln’s and JFK’s assassinations, including Booth and Oswald, respectively, the locations, “gunshot,” “from above,” and even “conspiracy.”
The primary criticism of the Bible Code’s authenticity is the fact that no future events have so far been decrypted, thus leading to an attempted prevention. The argument against this is that no one would have known to look for 9/11 prophecies without knowing it would occur.
But the most damning criticism is the argument that the Bible Code is an excellent example of “information theory,” which states that if a brute force search is performed on a finite grid of letters, sooner or later, it will turn up patterns that spell out information. This was tested on Moby Dick, chosen at random, which succeeded in prophesying the assassinations of both Yitzhak Rabin and Anwar al Sadat.
Believers of the conspiracy theory argue that brute force will turn up information, but that the probability that this information, in so small a space, would be patterned into any meaningful context is just too minute. The Moby Dick example has thus been criticized as not being as detailed as any of the Bible Code decryptions, and this is true.
If the Bible Code is ever proved to be true, believers declare, it will prove the existence of the Judeo-Christian God, as no committee of humans could perform such a literary feat.
This one is based on concrete fact. Tesla did patent and invent a device he called an “electromechanical oscillator.” He hypothesized that, as all material in the Universe possesses a “resonance frequency” unique to itself, this property can be manipulated. His device was meant to produce a mechanical resonance matching that of any object.
The events surrounding this invention are legendary among conspiracy theorists. Tesla built a laboratory at 46 East Houston St., in Manhattan, and one day while experimenting with his mechanical oscillator, he allegedly matched it to the resonance frequency of the building he was in. All the nearby buildings were made of the same materials, mostly brick and wood, and much less sturdy than modern steel and concrete structures. The machine got stuck in the On position, and while he tried to turn it off, the buildings all around 46 E. Houston began to shake, more and more violently, until residents called the police to report an earthquake. Some were near enough to hear the machine and tracked down its bass, vibrating noise to a room, kicked in the door, and found Tesla banging away at the machine with a sledgehammer, frantically trying to destroy it. He succeeded just as they reached him, the noise stopped, the shaking stopped, and the buildings stilled.
The machine had yet to cause damage to any of them, but Tesla wrote letters to various business interests declaring that had he left it on for another minute or so, the walls would have started to crack, and the buildings would have collapsed.
This anecdote may not be true. Tesla claims it to be in writings, but skeptics doubt whether he was telling the truth, or whether the writings are forgeries. This conspiracy theory became so prominent that it made it onto an episode of “Mythbusters.” The machine was built according to Tesla’s specifications, switched on and used to try to bring down a bridge. The mechanical resonance theory proved true: an “I” beam began to oscillate until it was waving like a pendulum, 16 feet with each oscillation, but the bridge did not appear to weaken or shake violently, and no damage was reported. But the experiment failed to consider the building materials of Tesla’s day.
This theory has a magnificent corroboration in the destruction of the Tacoma Narrows Bridge, in 1940. It was filmed and well documented by many witnesses, that on November 7, the Bridge began to wave and sway so violently that it resembled the slithering of a snake. No vibrating sound was heard, and the wind was blamed by scientists for blowing over and under the Bridge at the Bridge’s precise mechanical resonance. What happened is legendary: the film of the Bridge collapsing can be found on YouTube, among other websites. The whole structure snapped apart and plummeted in pieces into Puget Sound. Architects and engineers are taught this lesson around the world, now.
Conspiracy theorists have also questioned whether the Mythbusters show designed the device correctly. The fact that no one is busy building the device and using it for the purpose of terrorism is cause to believe that although the patent exists, and there are schematics available for free on the Internet, the U. S. government must have hoarded Tesla’s invention at his death, when the FBI broke into his NY apartment and stole all his work from his safe. This is true, and the FBI still refuses to publish any of these works. The electromechanical oscillator is sure to be among them.
This apparently started as Republican/Conservative petulance, once it appeared that Obama might actually win the Presidency. Thus, it came across as a smear campaign trying to discredit him. But now that he is in the Oval Office for the duration, the theory still hasn’t gone away, and even former skeptics and Independent Party members have joined the accusation that Obama is not a natural-born American citizen.
The Constitution is clear that no one may be elected President of the United States America who is not born in one of those states. Obama’s birth is officially credited as occurring at Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. This qualifies as a natural born citizen, but the theory claims that his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, a white woman from Wichita, Kansas, was actually born to a British father, who was not an American citizen, and that her birth occurred somewhere in eastern, sub-Saharan Africa, probably Kenya, Tanzania, or South Africa.
S. Ann Dunham never applied for American citizenship, the theory continues, but grew up in Kansas, California, Texas, and other places, gave birth to Obama in either Kenya or Tanzania, and died in Honolulu, in 1995. If these details of her birth, and Obama’s birth, are true, he is not a natural-born American citizen. Dunham had a Ph.D. in Anthropology, and characteristically traveled the world studying various cultures.
The most convincing evidence that there is, at least, something worth investigating on this subject is the absence of Obama’s true, official birth certificate. A copy of it should be on file in the Honolulu hospital, another via Honolulu’s City Hall. There should certainly be a third copy somewhere in Washington, D. C., but the theory states that the only one that has turned up is currently in the Honolulu hospital, and is a forgery. It is true that the other two hardcopies, and any others that should be floating around, are nowhere to be found. It is easy to Google an image of it, but the theory claims these images are all copies of the one in the Honolulu hospital.
Virtually all Roman Catholic conspiracy theories connect to the Vatican’s Secret Archives. The archives are housed in a section of the Vatican Library, adjacent to the Vatican Museum, at the northern boundary of Vatican City. The Archives have their own website, operated by the Vatican, which states that the documents housed inside pertain to such boring matters as papal expenditure accounts, state correspondence, individual correspondence, including original letters written by Michelangelo Buonarroti to Pope Julius II and other Catholic authorities.
The conspiracy theory, however, is interested in more mysterious matters. Given that the Archives are estimated to house 53 miles of books, there are sure to be some intriguing finds inside. But why would an institution as powerful as the Roman Catholic Church feel the need to keep these documents secret? Are they afraid of what might happen if the public should learn of certain information? That is what the conspiracy theorists believe.
Some of the more broadly sweeping theories claim documentation of the Jesus bloodline; secular historical proof of Jesus’s existence, in the form of correspondence between Saint Paul and Emperor Nero; secular historical proof via the same correspondence that Jesus did not exist; contemporary depictions of Jesus (that is to say, formal portraits of Jesus made by people who actually saw and depicted him in real life, whereas the earliest known depictions of Jesus, which clearly intended to represent him directly, date from the late 2nd Century AD).
This line of the theory can go on ad infinitum, and has accused the Church of hiding proof in the Archives of the existence of various Biblical relics, either the relics themselves, or reliable documentation as to their whereabouts, including the Ark of the Covenant, the Holy Grail, the True Cross, the truth about the Shroud of Turin, and many others.
Absolutely no one is allowed into the Archives, not even Cardinals. It is not well explained, on the Archives’ website, whether the Pope is allowed to go in or not. Anyone who wants to see a document from the Archives must ask in advance, and thus, must know in advance if such a document even exists. The only four people on earth known to have access to the Archives are Cardinals Raffaele Farina (the Archivist, or Librarian), Jorge Maria Mejia and Luigi Poggi (Archivists Emeriti), and Prefect of the Secret Archives Sergio Pagano. There is only one entrance into the Archives: from the main library, go by way of Porta Angelica, through Porta di Santa Anna. The Vatican Swiss Guard patrols this entrance at all times. It should be noted that contrary to the beliefs of those who hold to this theory, the documents in the Vatican archives which relate to Popes who reigned 75 years earlier are made available to the public. This most recently happened in 2006 when Pope Benedict XVI gave permission for the viewing of all documents relating to the reign of Pope Pius XI. This theory is likely to gain in popularity with the release of yet another completely erroneous film based on the book Angels and Demons by Dan Brown.
Mount Yamantaw is, at 5,381 feet, the tallest mountain in Russia’s southern Ural range. The U. S. government is on record as stating that it strongly believes in the existence of a massive stockpile of nuclear weapons hidden in this mountain. The Russians have built two “closed cities,” or permanent military installations with civilian populations, all of which are employed in work of a nuclear nature (similar to the Manhattan Project), just southeast of the mountain. You can find all of this on Google Earth.
The cities are named Beloretsk-15 and 16, and are believed to be built on top of a massive underground facility, which houses thousands of nuclear warheads. Russia has been questioned about this repeatedly by the U. S. government, and its explanations are absurdly inconsistent. Russia has, in various instances, said that it is a mining site, a repository for Russian treasures, a food storage area, and a bunker for leaders in case of nuclear war. Any of these is believable. Why haven’t they picked one and stuck to it?
On a diplomatic trip to Russia, former Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA) asked about the mountain. “I went to Moscow and spoke with the deputy interior minister who was in charge of mining. I asked him if there was any mining activity there. He just shook his head and said he had never heard of it. So I mentioned the other name the Russians use for it: Mezhgorye. He said he hadn’t heard of that either. Then he sent an aide out to check. Twenty minutes later, the aide came back, visibly shaken. He said they couldn’t say anything about it.”
The conspiracy theory goes further, claiming that not only is the mountain hiding a stockpile of nukes, but that some or all of these nukes are connected to a gigantic supercomputer which cannot be turned off or altered in any way by anyone. The computer is programmed to detonate the nukes if it detects any nuclear warhead striking anywhere in Russia. These nukes have been surrounded by an extremely poisonous isotope of cobalt, rendering them a colossal “dirty bomb.”
The radioactive cloud would encircle Earth and blanket all land vegetation with radioactive cobalt, which would immediately kill all plant life, without which all animal life would die within a few months. This is popularly known as “the Doomsday Device.” If you’ve seen the film “Dr. Strangelove,” you’re familiar with it.
The scariest part of this theory is that the blanketing of any plant life with radioactive cobalt would truly kill the plant life, in which case it is feasible for the human race to destroy all land life. It is not known what would happen to ocean life, but it would probably be fairly unaffected. This does not mean that the human race can destroy the world. Earth will still be here. And given enough time, life would resume.
But the Doomsday Device is feasible, very easy, in fact, to manufacture.
It is not known whether Tesla’s most infamous invention has ever been invented. But the FBI may have the ability to invent it at anytime. Tesla believed strongly that it would do what he said. In 1957, the National Inventors Council did, in fact, issue a request for a death ray to be invented, for use as a weapon. Tesla was already dead (maybe), but he had made outrageous claims about the abilities of such a weapon. He claimed that the idea of one is not so far-fetched, as it is merely a matter of controlling a bolt of lightning.
Tesla wrote a letter, dated 29 November 1934, to J. P. Morgan’s son, seeking financial backing for a revolutionary invention.
“I have made recent discoveries of inestimable value.…The flying machine has completely demoralized the world, so much that in some cities, as London and Paris, people are in mortal fear from aerial bombing. The new means I have perfected afford absolute protection against this and other forms of attack. … These new discoveries, which I have carried out experimentally on a limited scale, have created a profound impression. One of the most pressing problems seems to be the protection of London and I am writing to some influential friends in England hoping that my plan will be adopted without delay. The Russians are very anxious to render their borders safe against Japanese invasion and I have made them a proposal which is being seriously considered.”
Elsewhere, he wrote, “My invention requires a large plant, but once it is established it will be possible to destroy anything, men or machines, approaching within a radius of 200 miles. It will, so to speak, provide a wall of power offering an insuperable obstacle against any effective aggression.”
Unfortunately, no national military bought his plan. It seemed too much like science fiction. It still seems so, really, and became a popular sci-fi comic book plot device.
Tesla continued working on the invention to his death, upon which the FBI broke into his home and stole all his documents from his safe. They couldn’t find his key, so they had to blowtorch the door off. Someone must have been very interested in the papers inside. These papers are known to have contained schematics for inventions, patents, etc., as this was Tesla’s work procedure.
J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI head at the time, is on record as saying, “that Serb is the most dangerous genius I’ve ever heard of.”
The FBI refuses to release any of Tesla’s papers to the public. But many conspiracy theorists believe that his death ray has already been invented and is currently being implemented.
On another list of conspiracy theories, one entry is of HAARP. This is claimed by many to be a particle beam weapon, using the same technology Tesla dreamed up and wrote about. The theorists even argue that HAARP caused the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami, either by accident, or to hide something.
This one is becoming very popular via the Internet, and certainly seems alarming. There have been several TV programs devoted to it, and all the paranoia centers around “the Mayan Long Count Calendar.” This calendar is one of the most accurate ever devised, much more accurate than the Julian calendar, which all of Europe used until 1582. The Julian was revised to account for Leap Years, and became the Gregorian calendar, which most of the world uses today.
The Mayan Long Count, however, was invented, or so scholars believe, on August 11, 3114 BC, in Gregorian terms. It is based on the movement of the earth and sun, relative to the Milky Way galaxy. Thus it is extremely accurate. A very impressive feat, too. But according to it, we are currently living in the fourth age. And the numbers of the Long Count calendar are about to reset. They will do so on December 21, 2012, the winter solstice in the Northern Hemisphere.
The previous age ended on a long count of 12.19.19.17.19. Another 12.19.19.17.19 will occur on December 20, 2012, followed by the start of the fourteenth b’ak’tun, 13.0.0.0.0, on December 21, 2012. Conspiracy theorists are burning up the Internet claiming that this means the world will end. Their proof lies in the “Popol Vuh,” a Mayan book which compiles creation accounts known to the K’iche’ Maya people, and which states that this fourth age is the gods’ first successful attempt to create humans, after 3 failed attempts. Thus, the world as the Mayans viewed it, and as we live in it, is perfect, and there need not be a fifth age.
Given that they based their calendar on geometry involving the sun and the Milky Way, they must have seen some catastrophic end coming for Earth. This means an asteroid or meteor or comet, which is destined to strike Earth and wipe everything out on December 21, 2012. This is no immature claim. NASA is grossly outmatched by the night sky. All the foreign bodies floating around out there that have been sighted have been confirmed as no threat. But NASA calculates this is as a percentage so small, compared to the rest which we don’t know about, that the percentage is practically meaningless. It is 10 to an extremely negative exponent. There are many potential Earth impactors out there that no one has seen or knows about. Any one of them could have our name on it.
Or what about a massive solar flare? NASA expects a solar maximum from 2010 to 2012, a time during which the sun’s activity will be very busy. Flares are absolutely impossible to anticipate. They are bursts of light and heat, and thus cannot be seen before they arrive, because they travel at the speed of light. We will have no warning until we are walking outside and the sky explodes into brilliant light. And then Earth and everything on it and in it will be incinerated. Gamma radiation will penetrate to a mile in the crust and irradiate anything trying to hide.
There is also a theory amongst fundamentalist Christians which combines the Mayan Long Count with the “rapture”. According to the rapture theory (invented in the 1700s by protestant fundamentalist Cotton Matther who started the Salem witch trial hysteria), Christians are spared the Tribulation. But the Tribulation will last for 7 years, after half of which the Antichrist will rise to absolute power, and 3.5 years later, Jesus will return with all the dead who died in him, and the battle of Armageddon begins.
This means that if the Mayan Long Count is correct, then December 21, 2012 marks the beginning of the first or second half of the Tribulation. If it is the first, then anyone who believes he or she will be raptured up to heaven has a little more than 3 years left to pack a suitcase. If, however, December 21, 2012 marks the beginning of the second half of the Tribulation, when God wreaks all the really terrible stuff upon the earth, then those, who believe they will be raptured, will be raptured less than three months from the time this list is posted.






















October 4th, 2009 at 1:33 am
we all always like good ol’ conspiracy theories. thanks flamehorse.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:36 am
by the way, i’ve been unable to track my own lineage through any free “genealogy site”. expect controversy on this one…
October 4th, 2009 at 1:39 am
and i know jamie doesn’t support that kind or dick-waving (nor do i), but i just can’t believe that through pure accident of insomnia (on account of one of my injured pet turtles has me sleepless w/worry till the vet opens at 10am) i’ve made the earliest list comment….
October 4th, 2009 at 1:41 am
great list..
October 4th, 2009 at 1:46 am
@lo (3): Come on – you’ve been around on the site for so long now that eventually the odds were going to be in your favor
October 4th, 2009 at 1:48 am
Hmm – that last comment would also be suitably innuendoöus for the last list.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:50 am
I’m scared.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Great list, saw 2012 coming from miles away though.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:09 am
I checked for a new list several times after the usual new-list-posting time, but there was none. In the middle of dinner I realised that it’s because daylight savings started in most parts of Australia this morning. On the weekends, new lists are posted at a very convenient time for me. On weekdays, I’m working.
As to the list, I’m not a fan of conspiracy theories. I’m a big fan of humans but basically we’re far too stupid to maintain anything like this for any length of time.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:21 am
@astraya (9): Daylight time started for us last week – I am now posting 1 hour later by my time to ensure that lists appear at the same time as previously.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:21 am
Fantastic list, until number 1. If you do any kind of research you can totally disprove the 2012 thing. But anyway, that Russia one is really scary, it actually sounds very plausible!
October 4th, 2009 at 2:29 am
Michael Jackson is still alive. (1)He lives in Moon base (2)built by Hitler
(1)One person said during MJ’s funeral “we need to look up where he is undoubtedly perched in a crescent Moon”. This statement is designed to shield MJ from suspicions that he’s still alive and lives in the Moon Space
(2)In recently published interview MJ said: “Hitler was a genius”. Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun wasn’t father of German space program, Hitler was. Without his genius Braun was unable to built Moon rocket and Americans had to fake Moon landing.
Spread the word, don’t bee a sheeple
October 4th, 2009 at 2:31 am
“he’s still alive and lives in the Moon Space” sorry
BTW. jesus Juice is not a drink, it’s rocket fuel invented by Hitler
October 4th, 2009 at 2:33 am
nice….great list,enjoyed it.Nn my opinion I think this list was better than the other conspiracy lists you’ve written.well written.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:34 am
Nice…Great list,enjoyed it.In my opinion I think this list was better than the other conspiracy lists you’ve written.Well written.
sorry for the double post.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:37 am
All right who is replacing word “b a s e” with “Space”?
October 4th, 2009 at 2:49 am
What do u get if u divide the majestic 12 by the fantastic 4???
October 4th, 2009 at 2:50 am
No offence or anything… but as for the statement about Barack Obama – that his genes can be traced back to Adam and Eve..so can everyones genes technically, so it’s not such a great statemtn.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:54 am
So over the 2012 crap. Good list tho
October 4th, 2009 at 3:02 am
Nice list. Very well written! Although the 2012 one was kinda expected, it was still a nice read.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:06 am
The Russian mountain thing is pretty interesting, reminded me of this.
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/17-10/mf_deadhand?currentPage=all
October 4th, 2009 at 3:30 am
disappointed I haven’t seen one of these lists talk about how Katrina was caused by our gov’t ’steering’ the hurricane into the oil refineries to extend their leases another 20-30 years, as well as give them permits to rebuild them (from the damage done… that led to the extension).
October 4th, 2009 at 3:39 am
.. on the end of the Tesla one… The tsunami might or might not have been to cover something up, who knows?, but, as a result of the tsunami, man-made or not, the US provided $350billion in aide relief to India, in the form of a loan, to be paid back over a 30 year period (not to mention the rest of the region). All coastal areas that use this money to reconstruct homes, factories, etc will basically owe their existence to this loan, and the loan is owned by the US. Thus, in effect, the US owns these and the growth they will provide over one of the most populous countries on the planet… over the next 30 years. Cover up the US colonization of India is my guess.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:16 am
#1 better not happen. I’m having my wedding December 31, 2012. It would be just my luck that the world ends 10 days before.
Sigh, forever the bridesmaid.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:20 am
Wow, Tesla sure is a popular person with conspiracy theorists, isn’t he? I must say I’d never even heard of him before these lists. No idea who the guy is (or was).
Interesting list, though. I usually don’t believe inconspiracy theories but it’s interesting to read them. And some things ARE suspicious. Maybe it’s true, and maybe we’re just connecting the wrong dots.
I tracked my own family back to the 1700s (but that’s all Dutch), and with that site given on this list there were some people with my mother’s maiden name in the USA! (It’s a pretty common name nowadays, but I’m not sure about 300 years ago). So that made me happier =)
Gotta say though, I don’t get why the whole Obama deal is so important… If his birthplace was not the USA, then he has still lived most of his life in it. Maybe it’s because I’m not American, but I’d think that birthplace wouldn’t really matter, considering the democratic values.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:21 am
@lrigD (25): You are right about Tesla and it is interesting. Much of what he did is absolutely true – but why do we only know of him through conspiracy lists? That, in itself, is a conspiracy theory waiting to happen
October 4th, 2009 at 4:30 am
Great list!
As far as conspiracies go, I’ve always believed the adage- “Two people can keep a secret, if one of them is dead”.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:38 am
I saw a programme completely debunking that bible code myth; the guy studied things like Moby Dick and Lionel Richie songs, and managed to find patterns “predicting” JFK’s assasination, 9/11 etc. You can do this kind of thing with any text.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:51 am
@Doug (28): Quite right. Sadly people will ignore those facts because they take away from their belief in the Bible code! I guess that that is why it is on this list.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:55 am
I don’t think Russia should have to explain the existence of Mount Yamantaw to America. In most cases, the US military has denied the existence of Area-51 altogether even though its clearly there with guards ready to shoot at a person who crosses a border of a place that “does not exist.” And with Tesla’s Deathray, I think a version of it already exists on some military planes with infrared beams mounted on the nose of planes with the ability to blow up incoming missiles. As for Dec. 21, 2012….it does have me a little on edge, although i think it’ll be another Y2K Bug
October 4th, 2009 at 5:05 am
great list
October 4th, 2009 at 5:30 am
Has there ever been any conspiracy theory that came out to be true? Seriously??
October 4th, 2009 at 5:33 am
Wasn’t 2012 a hoax? I mean…it’s a fucking calendar. Does the world end every New Year’s Eve?
October 4th, 2009 at 5:47 am
2012 is already here! Look at The Philippines, American Samoa, and Indonesia. Devastated by natural calamities.
October 4th, 2009 at 5:50 am
It is important to point out that the concept of the beginning of time is subjective. We base the beginning of time at when we think Jesus was born, which was actually inaccurate, he was born earlier. That would have made 2012 in 2005. Or, the Mayans had the year the calendart began at year zero, and their 2010 has passed. I don’t believe in this whacky bronze age lore, but i’m just pointing out that their 2012 has likely passed with no catastrophe.
October 4th, 2009 at 5:52 am
I don’t believe the world will end on Dec 21st but I’ll go to confession sometime before that, just incase!
October 4th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Awesome list, FlameHorse! I knew 2012 would make it. Kinda funny that Tesla, Obama and religion ended up with 2 a piece.
The one that interested me was the Majestic 12. Heard of that one a long time ago from my dad. It was neat to see it here on the list. Don’t believe it, but it was neat to see it.
@Arsenal (17): That was clever!
October 4th, 2009 at 6:56 am
I have noticed that most if not all these crazed, whacked out theories have been thought up by Americans…….
October 4th, 2009 at 7:07 am
I love lists like this… It reminds me that I’m NOT the crazy one on this planet. Myan calendars and minotaurs… How silly.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Great list! Loved it.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:16 am
I rarely ever comment on here, but have been a devoted listverse reader for over a year….great list FlameHorse.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Nice list except for the Obamama shit. That guy is an egotistical asshole to the nth degree. He’s a “Junior Senator” incapable of a conspiracy. He’s way too naive and makes too may n00b mistakes to have his own conspiracy.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:32 am
nice list….anyone remember the seinfeld episode where they had their own jfk-like spitting theory while at a mets game?…that one still cracks me up
October 4th, 2009 at 7:37 am
I too hadn’t known much of Tesla until I started reading the conspiracy lists, so maybe now I will read up on him. Also, maybe this is just me, but the bible code and other similar things, which supposedly predict events which have happened or will happen, only seem to find predictions about things that happen in the Western world, and usually in America. That seems a bit strange to me, since only things which are already believed to happen (like 2012) or have happened (like the JFK assassination) are predicted. I guess that supports the whole brute force thing, and we find only things we are looking to find, so it doesn’t make a difference where we look either way.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I love these theories lists. It makes me feel so rational.
October 4th, 2009 at 7:43 am
2012: B.S. (i hope)
Barrack not a citizen?: Who gives a shit hes WAY better than Bush.
Nikola Tesla: Smartest guy ever?
October 4th, 2009 at 7:54 am
My birthday is December 20! :O
October 4th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Great list, flamehorse, and this isn’t directed at you, BUT-I swear to god if I hear ONE MORE TIME that Obama isn’t elibible to be the president I’M GONNA SCREAM!
Yah, kinda like I just did. Sorry. Carry on…
October 4th, 2009 at 8:03 am
ha! I was so incensed I had a typo! I meant “eligible”, of course! Although I like the word “elibible”.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:08 am
just a curious question,
jfrater, are you a christian?
October 4th, 2009 at 8:28 am
This list seriously freaked me out! >.<
October 4th, 2009 at 8:29 am
THIS IS A GREAT LIST. I LOVE CONSPIRACY THEORIES.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Well done FlameHorse – no. 3 has always interisted me.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Well… Guess I’ll have to start mercy killing everyone I love. Thanks for the tip!
October 4th, 2009 at 8:36 am
@lrigD (25): You say, “I don’t get why the whole Obama deal is so important.” It’s because by law, in order to be president of the USA, one must be a natural born US citizen. And it’s an issue because those who oppose President Obama (or any one in government office whom they oppose) will grasp at anything they can to discredit him. It smacks of desperation and sour grapes to me.
As I posted on this site once before, “A birth notice for Barack Obama was published in both the Honolulu Advertiser and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin on August 13 and August 14, 1961 respectively, listing the home address of Obama’s parents as 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu.” There is no way these newspapers could have predicted that this newborn of mixed race would someday become president of the US.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:38 am
surely only the mayan world will end and therefore only the continent that they knew of.
thats fine by me.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:42 am
@Arsenal (17):
“What do u get if u divide the majestic 12 by the fantastic 4???”
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The 3 Stooges??
October 4th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Actually, the Clinton campaign started the whole stupid Birther rumor. There were reports that the campaign was looking into Obama’s birth-place and birth cirtificate … etc. This set off a fire storm among Democrats first and then Republicans after the primaries.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:48 am
The list itself is a conspiracy…
Nice list, but long
October 4th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Excellent list FlameHorse. I much prefer lists with some meat on them; this one definitely fits the bill.
I do agree with Rob – no way with the number of people required to implement these conspiracies that someone wouldn’t spill the beans. Probably more than one someone.
The exception to the rule could quite possibly be that mountain in Russia. The iron-fisted rule of the former Soviet Union (death for talking is a good incentive) coupled with the cold war nuke paranoia and the closed environment (make the participants feel special/privileged eh?) could provide an environment where secrets are not only possible, they are advisable. What works for scientology, the moonies, and countless other cults also works for the government.
Again excellent list!
BTW – what is our education system coming to? Tesla coil anyone? How do you make it through high school without learning about that crazy Serb? Pretty sad situation if you ask me.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Flamehorse, you have done it again. Great list, good read. Worth waking up to!
October 4th, 2009 at 9:08 am
I hope there will be cataclysmic events in 2012 which actually will end the world.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Thanks. Now I’m going to be in a snippy mood all day after reading about the utter stupidity some people actually believe.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:49 am
This is scary.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Any conspiracy theories about the CIA and Catholic Church I lean towards believing. That Tesla was one busy guy.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:59 am
After spending many hours reading About mr tesla , he still amazes me ,talk about a true genious , if the man was still alive we will probably walking in some surface in some distant planet , great list!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:03 am
yes im the 67th comment
October 4th, 2009 at 10:10 am
If you look at “Fascinating Facts about the Mayans,” it clearly states that the world does NOT end in 2012, and that “life goes on”
funny how this website contradicts itself. Which is it guys?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:11 am
My favorite wasn’t included! Apollo 15 photographed ALIEN SPACESHIP ON THE MOON! Google AS15-P-9630!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:25 am
great. according to the mayans the world ends the day i turn 20. They really dont want me to legally drink do they
October 4th, 2009 at 10:42 am
You forgot the conspiracy theory that an Alien Satanist Cult hacked into Listverse and planted a Penis list,thus making us all sexed crazed fools.
I also second the motion that I am sick of hearing about Obama’s birth certificates. If he wasn’t a citizen it would have been proven by now. I think we should start a Sarh Palin is a succubus theory…
October 4th, 2009 at 10:43 am
@CatChick (57):
or the three amigos?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:48 am
@Samzilla (71): I heard Sarah Palin traveled back in time with a Tesla invented time machine and had sex with Obama’s father while he was sleeping. She’s really his mother. Penis.
BTW I like your comment!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Some people have said they don’t know who Tesla was. Here is a great little 10 min documentary on him
October 4th, 2009 at 11:04 am
@Will (74):
Wait, I thought David Bowie was Tesla? And that he invented a Hugh Jackman replicating machine? No?
@Moonbeam (73): I knew that they looked similar. So their secret affair now is incestious (sp?)? Sweet. That always spices things up.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:13 am
awesome list. my favorite….i end up googling via key words from all the theories for hours! very interesting, and mind provoking. love it! thanks!
October 4th, 2009 at 11:42 am
In reference to #9, the human/animal hybrids project: we may finally get an answer to the age-old question, “Is it torture to menace a suspect with a minotaur?”
October 4th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Wait! What about the conspiracy between the ACLU, the Black Panthers, the government of Kenya, the Tamil Tigers, and SEIU to keep Obama’s green jobs czar’s relationship with aliens a secret? It was on Glenn Beck last night, so it has to be true!
October 4th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
And in reference to the Obama’s not eligible theory: Being born on American soil, be it a state, territory, embassy, or military base, qualifies you. In this way, John McCain, his 2008 opponent, who was born on the Navy base in Panama, is a citizen.
The actual conspiracy theory, as related by Orly Taitz and Glenn Beck, among others, tends to be as incoherent as a Qaddafi speech, and was recently the victim of a really entertaining prank by a college student, who created a fake Kenyan birth certificate and let it float just long enough to humiliate the birthers, or “birfers” as they’re often called.
October 4th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
The most hilarious conspiracy theory of all time is the reptilian one.
October 4th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Thanks, everyone. From now on, I’ll keep the size of each article down to about half of this. It was a little long. I didn’t realize it until now, probably because I love conspiracy theories WAY too much.
I feel compelled to add that I believe very few of these, because I’m very skeptical about most things, but I do believe the electric car, from the previous list, and Tesla’s earthquake machine. I also believe that Obama is perfectly eligible for the Presidency.
JFrater, OUTSTANDING site, you’ve got. The fact that you’re willing to post user-created lists is extraordinary. There’s some great stuff on this site.
October 4th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
@42 Nice list except for the Obamama shit. That guy is an egotistical asshole to the nth degree. He’s a “Junior Senator” incapable of a conspiracy. He’s way too naive and makes too may n00b mistakes to have his own conspiracy.”
That in itself could be part of the conspiracy…let people think he’s naive and a n00b until it’s time to strike and he’ll put the shining on us all.
October 4th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
So, Dec 21 2012? But if it was true… I’m still so young! D:
I don’t really believe it though. Reminds me of that compter thing y2k bug? Lol, that didn’t happen.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
@whathappened (44)
I would recommend “Tesla: Man Out of Time” by Margaret Cheney. It was quite an interesting read, I am sure you would enjoy it.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
flamehorse, I personally prefer the list long and informative.
October 4th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
One theory that is very much like the Dulce Base can be found here:
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Denver_Airport.html
This site has a wealth of information, be sure to sift through it all, especially regarding the murals.
Whether you buy it or not,creepy stuff nonetheless.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
As for #5, the lawyer, Orly Taitz, happens to be my landlord…
weird coincidence.
October 4th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I think after looking at numbers 9, 8, 6, 2 (on the list), it’s safe to say that thanks to the birth of the age of information the government won’t be able to keep secrets or shut up the teslas of the world for much longer.
“CHEERS FOR INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM”
October 4th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
The Birthers are driven by nothing but sour grapes and racism. They literally can’t imagine a black man with a “funny” name becoming President legitimately…
October 4th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
FlameHorse – I usually don’t post comments, I just visit the site daily and lurk around a bit reading everyone else’s… But I’m taking the time to comment today to say you have written the best list in months. It was interesting, well-written, and significantly more robust with information than most. Well-done, friend. Keep ‘em coming.
October 4th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
@Arsenal (17): the fabulous freebirds!
(there were usually only 3 of them)
great list! more conspiracy theories please!
October 4th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
oooooooooooooooh yay another conspiracy list (not sarcastic)
i believe in the 2012 one though..
for all of those in denial, look at the numerous natural disasters that have come of late, samoa, new guinea etc
this will only get worse !!! imagine what the world will experience in 3 years ):
October 4th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
@Yawyack (85): @Winchester (90): Thanks, guys. I will.
October 4th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
I don’t think the world will end in 2012. No person can predict the end of the world. The bible firmly states in the Gospels that only God knows when it will come. “You do not know on which day your Lord will come. [I]f the master of the house had known the hour of night when the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and not let his house be broken into. So too, you also must be prepared, for at an hour you do not expect, the Son of Man will come.” (Matthew 24: 42-44) That is what I choose to believe. No one person or society can predict the true end of the world.
Wow, two posts by me with religious references in one week.
October 4th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
How long did it take for the Dems to lodge a Supreme Court challenge to the 2004 election? About 5 minutes.
How long would it take for the Reps to lodge a Supreme Court challenge to Obama’s election if there was any possible grounds for it? It’s been 11 months since the election, and not a peep so far.
October 4th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
#5 LOL I just watched that episode last nite. 16 feet oscillations??? Where the hell did you get that?
1) they attached it to a 20 ft rod of iron that was lying on top of a box on each end. Not attached solidly to anything. and yes, the deviced caused it to bounce around. No it was not attached to an Ibeam that deflected up to 16 feet
2) they did attach it to the Carquenas bridge on an Ibeam and were able to feel the vibration up to 100 feet away, but no flexing visible to the naked eye.
October 4th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
oops, meant #6 Tesla “earthquake machine”
October 4th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
@mitchsn (96): I don’t know the episode. Just recounting the theories, and ranking according to my opinion.
October 4th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
You failed to mention Philip Schneider in regards to Dulce, New Mexico.
Not only did he help build it, but it was he who was the whistle blower behind all of this.
In a book that was due for release, before his murder in 96′, he claimed that he had the latitude & longtitude for every single underground military installation, nation wide.
There are video’s out there featuring his testimonies. One of the most interesting thing’s in his speech is that the man back’s himself up with photographic/physical evidence.
Also, has anyone seen the 3-D crop circle with an E.T. fellow holding a binary encrypted message on a glyph?
October 4th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
@ Titanis
Isn’t that last remark you made a little hate mongering.There is no grounds for calling inquires on legal issues racist.
October 4th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
So why is the photo accompanying Mount Yamantaw (No.3) one of the nearby airfield and not of the mountain?
October 4th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
@scarybiscuits (31): Is that You, twisted, aka pink?
Ohh! And btw, I know the truth about every one of these conspiracies….so you better watch out!
October 4th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Most of these are pretty retarded huh
October 4th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
@ Stefan (92) – yeah there have been some pretty sad disasters recently, but there always have been. there have always been floods, earthquakes, and other things. its nothing new.
great list!
October 4th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
@segues(102)My God/Godesses etc…Is that you…102..and 31…odd biscuits?
You know my weakness…eh!
I mean how many people really believe the official version of 9/11??
Tesla…Genius…used by Edison…ALL modern apparati are beholden to his visions!!
http://www.youtube.com
This Canadian has verified some of Teslas’ claims about molecular changes due to frequency modulations and other effects…his name…John Hutchison…google !!
October 4th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Summation on 2012…Mayans had astromical data that almost surpass ours!!!the mandate of the Federal Reserve is finished…many new States were formed in 1947 including Isis-Ra-El…certain Christian sects are pushing for Armageddon so they can experience the ‘Rapture’…Earth has experienced crustal displacement…magnetic field switching polarity …Velikofsky has proposed a near miss from an celestial body…
May we live in interesting times!!!
The moon is theorized to have been rent from the Earth due to a collision with a mystery object!!
Nibiru or planet x…who knows?? strange that underground seed vaults have been constructed…do they know some thing we don’t???
October 4th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Flamehorse, you da man, again. And yes, i’m still around and kicking.
Morpheus, awesome reference on post #86, crazy stuff..
i hope nothing was “triggered” with me, the one time i went through d i a….
October 4th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
When one studies the ancient ‘myths and legends’ one might find tales of warfare in the skies and total destruction on earth… Soddom and Gomoragh…sounds like a nuclear explosion no!!
We have much to learn from the past… too bad the Vatican is so stingy with what they have amassed!!!
I believe we once had more knowledge than we have today… the ancients left us clues…stones that even our most modern cranes can’t lift are juxtaposed in perfect harmony that a business card can’t fit??
An ancient tribe in Africa (the Dogon tribe) knew the companion stars of Sirius…the Pyramids portray Osiris(Orion) thousands of years ago!!
Who gave us this information??
October 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
“Thus, the word that we live in, as the Mayans viewed it, and as we live in it, is perfect, and there need not be a fifth age.”
Anyone who thinks the world we live in is perfect is crazy and I can’t take anything they say seriously.
Great list though. I love this lists!
October 4th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
@teacherguy2003 (107): Thanks.
Working on another, but I think we’re all conspiracied out for a while. I’ll get it done soon.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Actually there have been instances of strange wild animals attacking human beings late at night around Baghdad and it’s suburbs, corpses have been found in two pieces or missing certain organs. The newspapers reported them to be giant badgers or wolves, maybe there is something more to this? I do not know and do not care because I have no relation to this whatsoever.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Flamehorse, this is an amazingly interesting list, and I like the long ones with lots of information on each item.
For the bible code conspiracy, does anyone know if theorists are working from the original or from a translation? If it’s a translation, I’m sure you could manipulate it to say whatever you want. And even if it’s from the original, in places there are multiple different versions. And of course, if you tried hard enough, I’m sure you could get a code of this sort from anything. Even this list.
I have a few thoughts for conspiracy theories, but seeing as I have not read the previous two lists on the subject, I shall wait to suggest them…
I think, myself, that it doesn’t really matter if Obama is technically eligible for the post he holds, because surely the best man/woman should get it regardless of where they were born? I am sure he fits that criteria, regardless of whether he fits any others. Though I would say there would be a lawsuit by now if there was any concrete evidence against his being born in the USA.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
How about the theory that aliens built the pyramids? Or, really, that aliens visit us at all (I have never felt that aliens would bother coming all this way and not actually making contact, if they even exist – it’s a lot of work to travel such a distance).
Tesla’s earthquake machine sounds plausible – I have noticed my music stand vibrating when I strike the right note as I play – but whether it would actually be dangerous I don’t know.
I really want to be able to read the Vatican’s secret archives now – not because I believe they hold anything particularly exciting (for instance, I am sure that if the archives held any secular evidence Jesus didn’t exist, any time an archivist came across it he would resign because he wasn’t sure he could theologically hold the position any more, and so there would be an unusually high turnover in those positions) but just because it would be such an interesting slice of history.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
@lostatsea1 (106): “Mayans had astromical data that almost surpass ours!!!” – No. No, they didn’t. Not even closely. The mayans didn’t even have the telescope.
@Rowena (113): “Every time an archivist came across it”, well, that doesn’t necessarily happen very often. I don’t know what it’s like in the rest of the world but here in Sweden we have data on pretty much anything from the 16th century until today. This data is stored in “City archives”, “Region archives” etc etc. There’s not a person in the world which knows what these archives contain. The Vatican archives might contain evidence that Jesus never existed – but it might also be that no one alive today has seen it or even know that it exists.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
@lostatsea1 (105): ~sigh~ There used to be a poster named “twistedbiscuits” who was a smart and funny lady, later, for reasons I no longer remember, she had to change it to “pinkbiscuits”, but her personality was still the same irreverent, intelligent, delightful self.
Then she got seriously ill. So, since I have been away for so long, I was hoping against that “scarybiscuits” might be her third incarnation.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
that ought to read “hoping against hope”
October 5th, 2009 at 12:07 am
@23 Justin: When you take a loan… you don’t owe your existence to the lender… Its just a financial transaction like any other loan.
As far as the US colonization of India is concerned, I must tell you one thing… NEVER EVER UNDERESTIMATE INDIANS or any other country for that matter.
The effect of Tsunami was very limited on India which affected just a fraction of the population in the eastern coastal region. The money that came from your government went to Sri Lanka and other islands nearby. So do your math before you say something.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:47 am
http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com
October 5th, 2009 at 1:56 am
This list is pure awesomeness & total win. The descriptions were lengthy but interestig nonetheless.
Lookin forward to the next in line … Luv ya Flamehorse
October 5th, 2009 at 2:33 am
I wonder if there really were ‘ancients’.
I’ve always thought global warmings sounds like the story of Atlantis… humans living a luxurious life, expending energy… and then… the energy itself becomes the humans’ downfall… and the sea swallows them up. We could be Atlantis II or III or IV or who knows how many have come and gone!
Anyway… the Obama one is hilarious. If he hadn’t become president, none of these would exist. But I guess he did… so they do.
And by golly… Tesla!
October 5th, 2009 at 3:25 am
good list flamehorse, you’re way better with conspiracy theories than with literature!
October 5th, 2009 at 4:04 am
I will not watch 2012…
October 5th, 2009 at 6:06 am
@7raul7 (119): @DoubleT (121): Thanks. DoubleT, I am way better in literature than in conspiracy theories, but I do not read anything outside English. I should, and I am not worldly read, but my specialty is English and American literature.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:25 am
“and 3.5 years later, Jesus will return with all the dead who died in him, and the battle of Armageddon begins.”
So the Armageddon will actually be a zombie war….ah-ha!
All very interesting things to chew on…
October 5th, 2009 at 8:45 am
2012 can’t come fast enough.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Some of the conspiracies on this list are at least not quite so ludicrous… The Vatican Archives are my perpetual curiosity as well. I dont know what they may contain but the fact that they are guarded so carefully clearly indicates that whatever they contain is precious. Wouldnt you just love to get your hands on some old scrolls?
@flamehorse (81): Count me in with those who love these particularly long lists. Keep them coming!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Here is the thing about the Birthers. For months Obama was a forerunner to get the Democratic nomination. Then, when he got it, he was running for president for months. During all that time the REPUBLICAN White House had total access to the FBI, the CIA, the NSA and any thing else they needed. Are you telling me they overlooked the fact he couldn’t legally run for president? Absurd! If Obama couldn’t run for president legally, we would have heard about long before the election.
As for the Mayan Long Count Calendar … it just stops! That’s all. Do you think the chap making the calendar was going to go on forever? It already went thousands of years into their future. How many of us have a calendar that goes five thousand years into the future?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Good list, and with much improvement over the last conspiracy theory one. I occasionally come across Telsa apologists spamming threads in forums and they can be quite heavy in tin foil hat content, but they are amusing to listen to once in a while. I’m also wondering how much panic there will be when 2012 comes around, people do have a tendency to get stupid around those times.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Cool list. I always like reading conspiracy theories, if for nothing more than entertainment. This is certainly one of the better written lists lately as well. My brain thanks you.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:45 am
@GTT (126): @Gauldar (128): @Me (129): Thanks, you three. The panic around December 21, 2012 is going to be very real. I suggest you stay inside that day, with a gun by the door. People are dumb, panicky, ignorant and dangerous.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
I’ve actually read quite a bit about Tesla. He was an interesting man. One thing he proved though is that “wildly intelligent” and “batshit crazy” aren’t mutually exclusive terms.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Awesome list again flamehorse
I just wish the crazy people come to their senses before December 21, 2012. I’ll most likely still have some last minute christmas shopping to do, and wouldn’t want anymore lunatics on the streets then there already will be…
October 5th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Great list…it’s not accurate about the rapture being invented by Cotton Mather though…Jesus himself describes it in Matthew Chapter 24,”Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.” It is also described in 1Thessalonians Chapter 4,”15According to the Lord’s own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18Therefore encourage each other with these words.”
That’s straight from the source, not 1700 years later from Cotton Mather or from the 1800s like some other would have you believe. Consider yourselves encouraged.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
@ lostatsea1
although i see hutchison on sci channel alot the man never records his experiments and its hit or miss in recreating his “results”. I’d be more likely to believe him if he could produce some data and some actual evidence.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Vanga predicted that “two steel birds would hit New York city” on september 11, 2001. However, their was infact four “steel birds” (passenger jets), one crashed into the middle of nowhere and the other hit the Pentagon. So she is very close, but not 100%. She also predicted that World War III will start in 2010 and will go till 2014 which basically means that we won’t die in 2012. She also predicted that we will have flying trains powered by solar energy by 2018, also enforcing that we won’t die in 2012.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
It honestly would not surprise me if Obama wasn’t actually an american citizen. However, my beef with him is due to his policies, not his birthplace. Unless President Obama reverses the direction he’s leading the country in, my guess is a great many Americans will raise children born overseas.
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The darkhorse candidate for the Kentucky Senate Dr Rand Paul a Constitutional Republican has proven to be more than a distraction polling almost identical numbers to his Primary opponent for the General Election, and raising more than a million dollars in the third quarter.
http://will86aber.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/a-legacy-of-freedom/
October 5th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
these conspiracy lists are pretty cool! I don’t put a lot of stock in a lot of em (like the Obama’s not american, an junk like that), but most are jus kinda cool to read about! Can’t wait for another!!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Great List. Never heard of a few of these
October 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
The whole point of the doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret!
October 6th, 2009 at 1:48 am
@will86aber (136): So. The fact that Obama’s birth certificate has been seen and reproduced, not just for the the proper Senate and Congressional authorities, but, through the media, for all the world to see, isn’t enough proof for you as to Obama’s citizenship?
Are you a flat-earther, too?
October 6th, 2009 at 2:14 am
as usual, a very nice and informative post! thanks! and welcome to mine!
October 6th, 2009 at 10:03 am
@Dr. Strangelove (139): Mein Fuhrer! I can walk! *boom*
October 6th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
What is the point in lists like this?
Writing these lists as if they are fact is an unforgivable act of idiocy.
Not a single item on this list holds ANY truth whatsoever.
So why lie?
October 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
@Ammmm (143): Did you bother to read (and understand?) the title of the List? Yet Another 10 Conspiracy Theories.
CONSPIRACY THEORIES!
Don’t those two words just smack of idiocy? Thus, the very title of the list is a warning that the items on the list are absurdities in and of themselves!
It’s all for fun. Making the conspiracy believers the butt of a fine joke…unless the person reading it is a literal thinker without a sense of humor.
In that case, the joke’s on him.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
@Ammmm (143):
Can you read? They are conspiracy theories and no one is claiming that they are facts. Lighten up.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
@segue (144): Wow, you´re so much nicer than me even while we say the same thing. I apologize for my snappiness… My excuse is that my dad is in the hospital….
October 6th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
@GTT (146): LOL! I’m not nicer, just wordier.
I’m sorry to hear about your dad. I pray everything goes well.
October 7th, 2009 at 11:31 am
@segue (147): He´s actually being transfered out of ICU and into a regular room so I´m happy. Things are looking up and I can go back to being the peaceful poster everyone (as I delude myself) knows and loves!
October 7th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
great list. keep it going with the conspiracy theories…i love them as much as you do.
October 7th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
@GTT (148): I’m so happy for him and for you!
Now, go back to fooling the other posters with your Mis-Manner’s facade.
October 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
If we don’t want the end of the world happen then don’t support it but in youtube every vid with the end of the world bla bla bla has a link to their chanel which supports the frickin end of this frickin world! :O
October 7th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Aughhh all of this 2012 crap makes me sick. You guys should see how panicked the members on CafeMom are. (I’m a member there, cuz I’m a mommy duhhh.) Every single day someone comes around screaming “I’M SO SCARED I DON’T WANNA DIE!”
I just wish it would come and go already. Gah.
October 7th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
ok so even if creationism was true (which it is obviously not) and adam and eve were the first humans on the planet. Then ultimately couldn’t we all be traced back to adam and eve?
October 7th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Only problem with the first one is that Jesus had no Children…
October 7th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
@pren (154): Uh, says who?
October 8th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
I don’t know if this has been said, but in the first couple of paragraphs, you have some errors.
The rumor started by one of Hillary Clinton’s attorneys after it became clear she was losing in the primaries.
Also, any one born in a territory or military base is a natural born citizen, therefore, qualified to be the President. This one is in the Constitution.
October 8th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
#3 Is partially true. My family played host to a group of engineers from one of the Soviet secret cities several years ago. They were visiting the Hanford Nuclear site as part of the various nuclear disarmament treaties. It’s actually a nuclear weapon material production facility, not unlike Hanford was at one point. A closed city, not on any maps, that was sealed off with its own reactor and processing plant. It was built sometime in the 50s and never culturally changed. The people lived only into their early 50s and had never left.
Oddly enough the concept of Chocolate Chip Cookies astounded them. Now if only we had invaded the USSR with cookies, Communism would have fallen so much earlier.
October 9th, 2009 at 3:29 am
During the “Cold War” and the playful antics of the group of fellows in #8, several of my dad’s workmates were given a secret assignment. Every Monday morning morning before dawn they were picked up by unmarked buses with painted-over windows, and the space between the passengers and driver was a metal gate. Locked, of course.
They were taken to an airfield (still in the dark), where they were loaded onto windowless planes and flown to a secret destination. Each time they were flown, the trip seemed to take a different amount of time, and a different time (their watches were confiscated before boarding the buses). Their destination was a desert military installation.
No name or numbers were visible anywhere on the base.
They lived and worked on this base from Monday morning until Friday afternoon, with no outside contact allowed. The trip home was an exact duplicate of the trip there.
Of all the men my dad knew who were given that assignment, all died early deaths of rare cancers, and any child born after the assignment, about 25% had rare cancers, too.
I still don’t know where they went or what they did. Frankly, I don’t want to know. But it’s curious, in light of this topic, to know of an incident that might be written off as a conspiracy theory, but is, in fact, true.
October 9th, 2009 at 3:42 am
what’s a Serb?
J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI head at the time, is on record as saying, “that Serb is the most dangerous genius I’ve ever heard of.”
October 9th, 2009 at 5:13 am
@segue(158)Was this in Nevada?? Perhaps has something to do with your medical problems…twisted biscuits is fine and is having problems getting onto LV! Hope all is well with GTTs’ father…peace.
October 9th, 2009 at 10:16 am
@lostatsea1 (160): Well, we never were told where it was, (but Nevada is a good guess) and my dad was not amongst the men sent there (although, come to think of it, he did spend years and years working on nuclear armed missile bases all over the country(and took me along sometimes when the silos were far away enough that guards were not always present).
I remember one little town in Montana where every man, woman and child had to wear dog tags because they were considered a first strike zone (because of their missile silos), so that their bodies could be identified in case of war. The kids were acting nonchalant about the whole thing, but almost all of them exhibited streaks of uninvited cruelty towards both animals and people. I got caught up in a group of them in what I can (looking back now) only call a feeding frenzy.
I’m sure many of them are quite mad by now.
October 9th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
@segue (150):
@lostatsea1 (160):
Thanks for the concern… He´s actually been discharged from the hospital and is currently driving my mom crazy at home (as usual) so all is well with the world.
October 9th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
@segue (158):
Clearly your father’s story is about Groom Lake, aka Area 51, aka Dreamland. And clearly, from other evidence we’ve seen, the real reason the place is so out-of-bounds and top secret is because the government is doing shit there that is environmentally hazardous. Back-engineered UFOs? I doubt it. Secret aircraft with construction methods and strange propulsion capabilities that involve highly dangerous materials? You betchya. And if we knew about them, we’d be up in arms, demanding for the place to be shut down.
Obviously they’re messing around with nuclear and chemical processes there that have to be kept from the public, lest the public go apeshit with anger.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:32 am
@Randall (163): I’ve never been one to hold faith with the UFO junkthink. I have always believed that the government was up to no good wherever they took that crew (and your supposition is the correct one I am sure. Just look at the extent of the secrecy getting the crew there and back…and I haven’t told the half of it). The real truth came several years later, when the men, their wives who handled their clothing and other things that went back and forth, and their offspring began to die of strange cancers.
Anger? Those of us with the tiniest bit of knowledge are already angry; but the anger is with a government long gone, with people long dead. Sure, maybe they’re still at it, but with the ban on chemical weapons and WMDs, they’d have to be even more covert than they were during the Cold War. Certainly, no outsiders, no matter how well concealed the trip, would be brought in. If you’re going to contain a secret, contain it within controlled conditions, e.g. the military.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Flamehorse; this list is awesome, and very well written. The length is great. You seem to be the only real journalist who contributes to this site.
October 11th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Obama and the Nobel Prize: When War becomes Peace, When the
Lie becomes the Truth
By Michel Chossudovsky
URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15622
October 12th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
How could people not believe in UFO’s? They have been around waaaaaaay before Hollywood ever hijacked them. Some sightings I’ve read about date back to the 15th century and beyond.
The universe is estimated to be between 8-14 billion years old. How old are we as a race? Tens of thousands of years old, if that?
For another civilization to be visiting us from the stars; they must be at least hundreds of thousands, if not millions, years older than us as a race. Imagine how far they must have come to be able to master space travel?
Having said that, if such a race were visiting our planet, I personally, imagine they wouldn’t be sticking around too long as we would be seen as primitive or as one scientist put’s us as… “universal backwash”.
Have a think about it.
Perhaps these UFO’s are unmanned drones used for surveillance, very much like the predator drones the U.S. military uses today?
October 17th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Wow. I always LOVE a good conspiracy theory, in fact I’m probably the only 17 yr old teenage girl I know who reads books about them. I find the Mayan theory very disturbing, I haven’t read much about it in books, and so reading it now makes me worried, but what can you do?
October 19th, 2009 at 9:23 am
ok, the whole mayan calendar thing. It NEVER said the world would end, it’s just the beginning of a new age, mayne we come up with an amazing new technology or go all-green fuel and electricity who know, but don’t worry the world will not end we will all be ok
October 21st, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Human stupidity and gullibility has no limit.
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:05 am
maybe perhaps it is true. we, people are all sinners. i know God will somehow judge us by our doings;we must prepare(if ever).
but only God knows and HE is the only one capable of deciding for us. so, we all must be prepared. 0:)
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:15 am
@Bullseye (170): You finally figured that out about yourself, did you? Or did you need help?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:19 am
free geneology at http://www.lds.org
November 17th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Here is a good YouTube video dealing with “Obama is not a natural-born American citizen,” conspiracy theories. I don’t know how much of this I believe, but its entertaining to say the least (which most politics is):
November 17th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
@Bill (174): OMG! This is the kind of thing that gets put together by the dim-witted ultra radicals on the right. It’s full of lies and innuendos, casting a wide net so that maybe, just maybe, something will stick.
One of the biggest problems, of course, is that the people making these spurious accusations are, themselves, full of many of the weaknesses they attribute to the President. Also, they tend to bring out the wackos, the nut-jobs, the crazies.
Bill, there is no entertainment value in this video, the only thing I see there is a call to arms, a pumping up of the crazies to go get their guns and take a pot-shot at our President because they differ with him ideologically, because they are afraid of his intelligence, because he’s black…take a number.
It’s not funny. It’s scary as all hell. The fact that you find it amusing is equally scary.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:35 am
Very interesting. I’m not one for conspiracies, especially on a global scale, but there is often a little truth in all the hype.
On the Bible codes, the codes are not meant (by God?) to be used for predictions but to “prove” that the Bible is God ordained. Sure you can find codes in other texts, and it has been done on many books using computers, but the Bible contains so many that the odds of them being random is incredibly small.
Timaar68, I like “elibible” too. Maybe it could mean something like “eligible for the Bible” or “valid Bible code”.
January 28th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Mount Yamantaw one is just stupid, even if there is loads of nukes and present Eden in that mountain, so what?
If world war 3 comes, the fall out don’t matter we all going to die, the fact there are loads of nukes in a mountain won’t change much, sure present Eden may scare people but the fact is we got vaults to go to in this make believe world.