While there is a little overlap with this previous list, the members of this list are all suited to it sufficiently to overlook the duplication. These are characters who are not necessarily evil to the core – that would be another list – and in some cases you even have sympathy or fondness for the character.
She doesn’t gun down busloads of people, but there’s more than one way to be bad-ass. Mrs. Iselin is the wife of a senator, and her son, Raymond Shaw, hates her domineering attitude toward him. Shaw has been brainwashed by Soviet Communists years before the movie begins, and his own mother is a communist agent working undercover in America in order that she and her husband (really just she) gain all power in the White House. She does this by using her own son, Shaw, as a tool. She has absolutely no love for him. Or anyone else. All she wants is global power.
The idea of brainwashing her own son, of which activity she was the driving force, in order to force him to assassinate the President, after which Shaw goes to jail and she gets the power, is monumentally bad-ass!
He’s got better performances under his belt, but this one is outstanding. Harris gets into hot water when he personally beats a Russian mafia member to death in full view of people in Las Vegas. You gotta be bad-ass to willfully screw around with the Russian mafia.
They demand monetary recompense, and he sees to this by breaking the law every time he has to, robbing a known drug dealer, personally executing that drug dealer with a shotgun at point-blank range, enjoying his dying breaths in the process, robbing drug dealing street punks, and personally threatening to kill his own brand-new partner if he talks! He threatens him twice with guns, forces him to smoke a PCP-laced joint, then berates and threatens everyone in his entire neighborhood when his partner finally confronts him! That’s called FTW! That’s what that’s called!
Not an easy choice, given the definition of bad-ass, but I say he is. All he cares about is money. That’s it. And he will gladly kill every person on the planet to get more of it. Luckily oil drilling doesn’t require genocide, but he does see fit to execute a complete stranger who lies to him for a cut of the money.
Then he buries the body to hide the evidence. He publicly beats the minister of a small town, the sort of thing that will be found out by everyone in town sooner or later. Does he pick up and leave? No way! Just stays and keeps drilling the oil for himself. He blatantly reneges of monetary promises, and if you believe in God and jesus and such, dig this: he allows the minister to baptize him, provided that he gets the last tract of land in the area, to build a pipeline through it. He could not care less about the baptism. He uses God himself as a tool to get more money.
At the end, he cements his legacy by beating the minister to death with a bowling pin, after humiliating him. His own butler just stands and looks at him sitting next to the body. No surprise. Now that’s bad-ass.
A Britishman who dresses like a French fop. Even the characters around him think he’s gay, let alone public sentiment today. But he’s one of the finest swordsmen in the world, and derives sadistic ecstasy in dispatching a duelist one piece at a time, slowly, methodically, until the poor guy is helpless and terrified.
Ol’ Archy’s most bad-ass move by far, though, is slowly, methodically raping the helpless wife of a Scotsman who has irritated him. The Scottish are beneath him, he feels, and sees nothing wrong with raping and killing them. Then he leaves her alive to grieve.
Then the much larger Scot challenges him to a duel. Cunningham doesn’t even hesitate. “Bring him on.” And he enjoys himself immensely, slicing the Scot again and again, until the Scot finally kills him. Dead or not, Cunningham is one mean jerk!
No death scene has ever been more FTW!!! than Montana’s. He’s the greatest druglord in all creation, and uses more of his cocaine than anyone else. He just doesn’t give a flying rip. But that’s the thing. He never did. All the rival gang members in the world come down on top of him, and does he call security? Piss on security!
He loads a particularly grandiose self-defense weapon and proceeds to take on all comers. He just wastes ‘em right and left like rats. They shoot back, but he deliberately hocked himself up on coke beforehand, and now he’s nearly unstoppable. Shot after shot goes through his torso, and he takes ‘em like a man and shoots back, grenades and full-auto. His rivals can’t even take him off his feet! He’s just lost his sister, so he doesn’t care anymore. He just stands there shooting back and taunting them! They finally have to shoot him in the back.
His most bad-ass scene, though, is much earlier, when a drug deal goes sour, and he’s captured. The buyer demands all the drugs. He threatens Montana with a chainsaw! Montana is tied up and defenseless, and what does he do? He taunts the buyer to his face! “Why don’t you stick your head up your ass? See if it fits.”
In the annals of bad-ass scriptwriting, this one has to be #1! Kudos to the writer, whoever you are, because all those repeated Nos and Yeses and such are actually written that way on the page! Kingsley wasn’t ad-libbing! But the marvelous performance is all his, and he based it on his grandmother! Talk about Thanksgiving.
Logan wants the ol’ gang’s best safecracker back in action for one more heist. The safecracker is retired and living the sweet life in sunny Spain. Not an easy person to convince to return to a life of crime. Logan actually pulls it off, at the ultimate cost of his life, granted, but he just refuses to back off.
He smashes a beer bottle over the safecracker’s head, he screams like a lurching gorilla right into his ear, he howls, he kicks walls, threatens everyone around him with death, he publicly trashtalks the safecraker’s wife, Jackie, and lady friend, says how lousy they both were in bed. The safecracker’s wife is an ex-porn star, and Logan makes several points of that. He walks right up to a kid with a rifle pointed at him and mocks his fear.
And nobody, NOBODY, has ever unleashed a torrent of awe-inspiring, profanity-laced volcano language on the level of Don Logan. “Laced” isn’t the proper word. It’s profanity-inundated. If it’s an art, this guy is Jackson Pollock. “No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!!! No f___ing way! No f___ing way! No f___ing way! No f___ing way! You made me look a right c___!” “I don’t give two s___s what Jackie Big-Tits thinks, she can think what she f___ing likes!” “I WON’T LET YOU BE HAPPY!! WHY SHOULD I?!?!” “F___ off, wanker! You’re doing it!”
This guy played Gandhi!
He’s so bad-ass that you love him! You want to see him dead more than anything in the world, but not for awhile. First you want to see him be bad-ass! He’s certainly got the coolest threads of anyone on the list. He smokes hash, he shoots morphine, he bangs hookers three and four at the time, and he rules the Five Point with “a spectacle of fearsome acts.”
He cudgels his political rival, a man many people in the area like a lot, with the rival’s own club. But that’s after he throws a meat cleaver into his back. Dozens of people witness it. No one dares say a word or try to stop him. “Why doncha burn him? See if his ashes turn green?” he mocks an onlooker over the dead body. This guy is none too fond of the Irish. “If only I had the guns, Mr. Tweed, I’d shoot each and every one of them before they set foot on American soil.”
He stands his ground and fights like a man, charging right into a crowd of opposing gangs. He lost a fight once, and personally cut out his own left eye, and sent it to the victor wrapped in blue paper. As a show that he would never look away again. “I would’ve cut ‘em both out, if I could’ve fought him blind.”
No loyalty. He is the man. Everyone else is loyal to him. Or dead.
All the geeks were sweating up to now, I’m sure. No argument, Darth Vader is an icon of bad-assness. All he wants is the rebel alliance crushed. They’re a threat to the empire, and he has no qualms about obliterating an entire planet of innocent species to draw those rebels out of hiding. He cuts off his own son’s hand. He tries his best to tempt him to the dark side, and when that fails, he threatens to tempt his daughter, of whom he has just learned. He says it with such malicious glee. He loves his job!
Hayden Christensen is not included for good reason. If I ever feel like ranking the biggest p_____s (female reproduction orifices), I expect he’ll make the list.
The original Vader just stalks around force-choking people to death. “Apology accepted, Captain Nieder!” Then on top of all that, he has a change of heart at the last second and personally kills the emperor at the cost of his own life.
How do you escape a super-ultra-hypermax security prison-asylum? Arrange to be transferred to anther facility, with more moderate security. True, the opportunity is lucky, but Lecter is always on watch for such things. I deliberated about whether he belonged, since he’s psychopathic. That means he has no feelings for the soul of anyone around him. But it doesn’t detract from his fearlessness, his sadism, or his brilliance. Nobody’s ever had a more horrifying stare.
Never mind that he eats people, first, he totally mindf___s Clarice, all just to grab a little payment for himself: moderate security. Then he still has to escape, which isn’t going to be easy. He picks his cuffs, he efficiently beats down both well armed guards. Then, to cement his legacy among the baddest of the bad-ass, he changes clothes with one guard, cuts his face off while he’s still alive, puts it on his own, and rides right out on a gurney. No one saw it coming. That’s after he disembowels the other guard and hangs him from his jail cell. He puts the guard’s pancreas on the guard’s head. He even has the nerve to call Clarice later–at the FBI’s headquarters–to let her know he’s out and having the time of his life. And he tells her a bad joke, “I’m having an old friend for dinner.”
Let’s run through the logic on this one: this guy robs a mafia-owned bank, rigs the heist so that all his accomplices kill each other, he kills the last one, takes only the mafia’s money, $60,000,000, and then personally confronts every one of the mafia bosses at the same time. He walks right in laughing! They know he’s the one who robbed them, and he proceeds to make things worse by killing one of their underlings with his disappearing-pencil trick. He gleefully mocks them about paying for his new suit, then deliberately insults the one who’s angriest. Why? Well, because he’s the angriest. What makes this guy tick?
He lets on that he only robbed them to initiate a citywide war with one of the baddest crime-fighters in 20th Century fiction. It’s good sport. He demands half of the mafia’s money in exchange for killing Batman. This is after he’s robbed them. Later, he lets the angry mafia boss capture him, just so he can cut the guy’s throat. Then the Joker goes right about his business!
He executes people daily throughout Gotham just to make Batman take his mask off and give up. Why? He explains that to Batman after he rigs his own capture. “I wanted to see whatcha’d do! And ya didn’t disappoint!”
What the hell makes this guy tick? He explains himself to Harvey Harvey Harvey Dent, after he’s sure Dent won’t be returning to the land of heroes. “I’m an agent of chaos.” Folks, in my opinion, that is the definition of bad-ass. How do you deal with a guy like this? He’s so bad-ass that he has no rules! He tries to execute innocent hostages just to play a little game with Batty.
Then on top of everything else, he actually has the nerve to justify himself to Batman. “I’ll show ya. When the chips are down? These uh…’civilized’ people? They’ll eat each other. See, I’m not a monster. I’m just ahead of the curve.” Then he just lets Batman beat him for a while, and laughs in his face the whole time. You cannot get more bad-ass than that.






























@Joe (110): @tremblingfingers (115):
You’re both freakin’ retarded. Jack Nicholson is a hammy, overrated, overacting hack half the time, and his Joker was ridiculously and cartoonishly over the top, and while sometimes fun to watch, at other times he wasn’t even as good as Caesar Romero’s Joker from the old TV show. Nicholson is a funny bastard in the movie, I’ll give you that, and he does psychotic menace well. But the Joker is more than that. Also, Nicholson was physically too thick for the role.
Heath Ledger’s Joker brings the psychotic menace AND all the other Joker baggage right onto the screen. He was near-perfect. His Joker wasn’t a cartoon, he was a real live nutcase.
I’ve seen Tim Burton’s Batman a dozen times and I still love it, but it was only the best until Christopher Nolan came along and gave us the two best Batman films ever. And while I love Burton’s vision of the character and of Gotham (though it started going south in the second film) it was still a cartoon. Whereas Nolan’s is more like a goddamned film noir. And that’s the way Batman–and the Joker–should be.
The Joker in the ORIGINAL comics–back before the comics code was instituted–was a psychotic, brutal bastard. I’ll never forget an old Batman comic I had from the 30s (it was a reprint, so I don’t feel too bad that I lost it) where the Joker kills a whole busload of innocent people by repainting the white stripe in the road so that, in a thick fog, the bus drives over a cliff. THAT’S badass.
I could believe that Heath Ledger’s Joker would do that. Nicholson’s… not really.
How about bad ass movie heroes? Here’s a few:
Harry Callahan
Lt. Ripley
Yoda
I live a lot in the “real world” so please forgive me, but what in the hell does “FTW” mean?
Gary Oldman as Stansfield in “Leon” is still ignored… sigh
I’ve always liked Michael Wincott’s villain characters, but he’s rarely ever noticed since he takes part in more of the fringe style of movies.
His rough voice and demeanour gives the impression that all of his characters have that thuggish feel. Probably 2 of his most recognised roles were the villain Top Dollar in The Crow, and the jailer in The Count of Monte Cristo.
Does Harvey Keitel from ‘Bad Lieutenant’ qualify?
@ ab1979 (50)
I second Frank Booth from “Blue Velvet”
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@psychosurfer (124)
I agree about Gary Oldman in “Leon” – he was brilliant.
I also nominate Woo-jin from “Oldboy”
Bahahaha, Oh Hannibal Lecter. Definitely a *****ing hard ass. I saw Silence of the Lambs for the first time on Halloween actually and thought it was brilliant. I was gonan watch Hannibal Lector, but due to low amount of gas in my car, being a broke ass college student, and having to ride with a buddy I was forced to leave early when he had to.
As for the Joker, Definitely gotta agree there. I think, though, Harvey Dent/Two Face would be a great Notable Omission, simply because of how he became the villain he was so deep it made him kind of a bad ass.
As an interesting fun fact for the movie, remember when the Joker pressed the button to blow up the hospital and it didn’t work at first? So he started to ***** with it and eventually it blew up and he jumped because it scared the ***** out of him. Well, that wasn’t planned. The hospital really didn’t blow up while they were shooting. However they couldn’t reshoot the scene because they didn’t have another hospital to blow up (They actually blew up a real one in New York. Twas old and shut down).Good think it turned out funny though, excellently played off by Heath.
This is my favorite movie list, I think I can safely say. FlameHorse, you crank out awesome lists like Chinese toy factory cranks out lead-painted toy cars. Heath Ledger’s Joker was far and away the best. I love Jack Nicholson in most of his movies, but no one holds a candle to Heath Ledger’s Joker, and as the list says, no one holds a candle even in the villain department. As for the rest, I agree completely. Good job, Flamehorse!
like a *****ing 14 year old wrote it.
There are better villans than this – except for Vader.
i vote for Boris Badenov.
What a joke list–You want evil??? You want a real bad ass??? Henry Fonda in ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST.
@renegade01 (128): Harvey Dent was awesome too, but he usually gets overshadowed by the Joker, although both were excellently acted
Harry Powell in Night of the Hunter is as bad ass as they come in my opinion.
Come to think of it any Robert Mitchum baddie is up there.
That’s the performance by the late Heath Ledger that cemented the Joker as a BAD ASS movie villain…
If they (Warner Bros.) make another Batman film, they will have to find another actor of Ledger’s quality, or do with out, or make do with lesser quality. Ledger was just COOL as The Joker… Cesar Romero, and Jack Nicholson qidn’t click.
Ben Kingsley and Daniel Day Lewis both did fantastic work as well.
I want to sum this all up by saying that these three men are actors, and that is what acting is about.
Being somebody else for a short term, when you’re not being yourself… These guys did that well…
Moloch1123 @ 117 – You said “To those complaining about the characterization of rape as “badass” – grow up! The rape was not what was characterized as badass. The fact that the villain did it to his enemy’s WIFE, and had the nerve to do it in the most brutal way possible is what is being characterized as badass.”
The list says: “Ol’ Archy’s most bad-ass move by far, though, is slowly, methodically raping the helpless [emphasis mine] wife of a Scotsman who has irritated him. The Scottish are beneath him, he feels, and sees nothing wrong with raping and killing them.”
How much “nerve” is one supposed to infer is required to rape a “helpless” woman; the wife of one’s enemy or not? The fact that it was his enemy’s wife, and not his enemy, is what I feel makes that one unsuitable, especially when combined with “Even the characters around him think he’s gay”. So the way for one to prove that one is not gay but rather is a badass is by raping a helpless woman who has done nothing to you? Fabulous.
BTW “Bottom line: Grow up people, and stop complaining every time you get your panties in a wad because you don’t like someone else’s opinion, the wording of a comment/list entry, or because you don’t get your way and no one cares about your opinion.” Yeah, well, right back at you.
138th!!!
i gotta say though… Darth Vader, is not a bad ass, he’s essentially an emo.
@Tsiamon (44):
Exactly what I was going to say. I never comment on lists but this was appalling- had to stop reading. If I wanted to read writing of this quality I would go into schoolboy’s forums.
Hi M
You are the type that always comes to talking about Denzel Washington? The professional hater. You have no idea of interpretation. Just watch 5 minutes of Malcolm X to verify that there are few players better than Washington
I think Matt Damon’s character, Sullivan, in The Departed should be on the list, he was Jack Nicholason’s little human robot.
@moloch1123 – a badass villain is one that we, the viewer, feel compelled to like despite his evil actions, due to his character and/or the way he carries out these actions. there was nothing likable about cunningham in the first place, and his raping a helpless woman pushed him over the line into a complete monster. he’s not badass, just evil.
Yes, Hannible Lecter eats his victims but the Joker would tie him up and make him eat himself. The Joker is by far the number one bad ass.
Nice list.
Joker and Tony were my Fav’s
Great list. My ONLY complaint… movie names would have been nice, I guess google works just well, though.
Colonel Hans Landa..?
@Adam (139): Darth Vader is as badass as it comes. Even suggesting he is emo shows what a giant dildo you are.
I would like to see Matthew McConaughey added as a bonus. I know many of you women out there love him, but to men, he’s the ultimate villian.
This list would have been better if they included the movie the villain belonged to.
10. The Manchurian Candidate
9. Training Day
8. There Will be Blood
7. Rob Roy
6. Scarface
5. *****y Beast
4. Gangs of New York
3. Star Wars movies
2. Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal movies
1. Dark Knight
152nd??
Too much hype about the Joker. There were far better villains than him.
here’s one…Keyser SoZe – The Usual Suspects.
What about Agent Smith from The Matrix?
+1 for Keyser Soze
Amon Goeth (Ralph Fiennes) from “Schindler’s List”)
Who else would roll out of bed after *****, pull out his Mauser (rifle, that is), and casually pick off innocent prisoners in the yard below?
Joker as #1?????????? LOL
Where is Khan Noonien Singh on this list?
@Woyzeck Returns (102): Ah, no, Bill. You swore this was a battle between warriors. Not a bunch of Miss Nancies. So warriors is what I brought.
To everyone who thinks Anton Chigurh should be on the list, you’re right. I totally forgot him. I’d probably put him at #3.
About the 12-year-old tone, I did that on purpose. When I really love a performance in a film, it makes me feel like a kid again, watching something cool in the theater.
If you didn’t like it, well…MILKSHAKE!
I didn’t edit out all the cussing, Jafe did. I didn’t know at the time (this is an old list I did) if this site was PG or not. So no cussing in the future.
Hmmm, people decrying a rapist being described as badass? Yeah I get that rape is heinous and deplorable…but in the context of this list, murder and cannibalism get a pass from you complainers? The list is about villains. They do evil things. You are supposed to dislike them. Rape = a success in that regard.
Putting Heath Ledger at number 1 was certainly bold, considering how recent it was. But 20 years from now, his performance will have stood the test of time. I think it’s a good choice and a good list!
robert akizuki- Good call on Keyser Soze.
This list absolutely needs Kaiser Soze and the Anton Chigurh
Daniel Day-Lewis has been one of my favorite actors since I saw Last of The Mohicans. Not a bad guy in that one, but a wonderful performance no doubt. His acting ability is phenomenal.
Great List!
Great list, but you left off one of the most famous bad-ass movie villains ever:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Hamilton
“I’ll get you my pretty! And your little dog too!”
“Something with poison in it!”
“Ring around the rosie, a pocket full of spears! Thought you were pretty foxy, didn’t you? Well! (You’ll be) the last to go, we’ll see the first three go before her!”
Too bad they melted her. I’ve always wondered what she had in mind for Dorothy…
@General Tits Von Chodehoffen (148):
Did you seriously just call him a dildo? Haha that’s hilarious.
@Film_Fan (165): Very good to include her! I would say she should be an honorable mention.
@LittleMissSunscreen (147):
In full agreement on Hans Landa being a worthy addition to this list. I dare say his performance was every bit as chilling as Anthony Hopkins ‘Hannibal’. Where did Quentin Tarantino find this actor?
***WARNING – THIS POST CONTAINS EXPLICIT LANGUAGE***
***Moloch1123 @ 117 – You said “To those complaining about the characterization of rape as “badass” – grow up! The rape was not what was characterized as badass. The fact that the villain did it to his enemy’s WIFE, and had the nerve to do it in the most brutal way possible is what is being characterized as badass.”
The list says: “Ol’ Archy’s most bad-ass move by far, though, is slowly, methodically raping the helpless [emphasis mine] wife of a Scotsman who has irritated him. The Scottish are beneath him, he feels, and sees nothing wrong with raping and killing them.”***
After reading the complete sh*t you wrote, I couldn’t possibly be as eloquent as Mathilda, at 137 (excerpted above), so allow me to put my feelings in my own terms.
1) I very much liked the list.
2) I didn’t throw a hissy fit, just pointed out that rape does not, in any way, make a character cool.
3) The way the list author described it, it sounded like he has a fetish for that scene, which is disturbing enough.
4) Nobody TRULY cares about your opinion, but you still felt compelled to post it. You know why? Because opinons are like a%%holes – everyone has one, and they all stink.
5) Suck my m*therf*cking c*ck you stup*d g*dd*amned taint-licking son of a wh*re. I’ll f*cking comment about any g*dd*amned list I f*cking want, how the f*ck I want, when the f*ck I want – period. I don’t need any sh*t from a p*ssy farting a**hole like you spouting their oral diarrhea at how I personally f*cking feel. You got that, you ugly sperm-sh*tting son-of-a-b*tch?
6) Maggot, from 161: you’ve already proven you’re an absolute douche from what you’ve posted in other comments sections (previous posts, or at least, yesterday’s). So f*ck you too.
Hope I don’t get banned for that, because I really like this site….
Other notable omissions, some of my faves:
Angel Eyes (Lee van Cleef) in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.
Tommy DeVito (Joe Pesci) in Goodfellas.
Wilson (Jack Palance) in Shane.
Mr. Blonde (Michael Madsen) in Reservoir Dogs.
Scorpio (Andy Robinson) in Dirty Harry (though he’s kind of a pussy so maybe not. lol).
@Randall (114): And Robert Mitchum’s (again) Max Cady in “Cape Fear.”
Good call. I’m actually kind of surprised, being the film buff that you are, that you didn’t critique the list as being too predominantly filled with “modern” roles. A sprinkling of villains from older films could’ve been included, though I know it’s difficult when you only have 10 spots to work with. But say, Cagney’s Cody Jarrett or Tom Powers come to mind.
The Joker is definitely not over rated… Not only is he a genius psycho path but he has no rules and no past which allows him to do whatever he wants without repercussion. There is no one that you could hurt or kill that would bother him. He is emotionless and far far far more bad ass than Hannibal. The Joker would be the one eating him for breakfast.
@robkellyj (169): Maggot, from 161: you’ve already proven you’re an absolute douche from what you’ve posted in other comments sections (previous posts, or at least, yesterday’s). So f*ck you too.
Lol, I love you too, big boy…
Hannibal, the recent Joker and Mrs. Iselin. The rest of the list is a complete wash. You started strong and then wasted 6 choices on mere thuggery and 1 on a guy who needed a voiceover and goes soft on his son in the end.
Pffft.
@Maggot (173)
Crap, this is actually one of the few times when I actually have NO idea how to respond. I’ve actually started, stopped, deleted, and then started a new line four or five times before this right here.
Absolutely perfect response to my comment. I laughed, grinned, said “wtf?” in my head a couple of times, shook my head a couple of times, and have now decided I may actually like you – but definitely respect your wit.
That should read AND definitely . . . .
Yeah I agree, Where is Patrick Bateman?
@cadence007 (172): “There is no one that you could hurt or kill that would bother him.”
I have to disagree with your assessment here. If someone took out The Caped Crusader, that would definitely put a crimp in the Joker’s weekend.
@ damien_karras: damn you got me there, I just have to defend him, not just because of the Dark Knight but because i read comics also and he is just so bad ass.. and i think hannibel is a douche
well compared to The Joker