Man is always seeking to tame what it can never fully understand. The same is true with medicine. While we can never fully come to terms with the throes and devastations we are dealt by the natural world, that doesn’t stop us from trying to mount a saddle on the very worst of it. Along the way to a closer understanding of virtual infinity, there have been stubborn and idealistic, if not necessary, shots in the dark with the hopes of an eventual hit, a glimpse of enlightenment. Here are some of medical science’s best bloopers and outtakes. This list has a few parallels with Top 10 Bizarre Medical Treatments which you should read if you like this one.

Peg legs were the prosthetic limb of choice for pirates and Civil War-era amputees who wanted to get their hobble on. A crude hunk of wood fastened to the remaining leg-matter, a peg leg was an option for upright mobility that today is a lot better than was the case a few hundred years ago: nowadays artificial legs and prosthetics allow the legless to run in Olympic-caliber strides, and move about without looking distinctly “parrot less.”

Pioneered by Dr. Silas Weir Mitchell in the latter half of the 19th century, this controversial treatment was prescribed mostly to women who were seen as “hysterical.” The treatment called for a virtual surrendering of autonomy of women seen as some generic form of “not well.” Resting, in these terms, meant no reading, movement, talking, or imagination of any sort. As such, women striving for empowerment were rightfully taken aback by such medical suggestion (e.g. Charlotte Perkins Gilman’s short story “The Yellow Wallpaper” which emphasizes the mad tyranny in perpetually being told to stay in bed by a better-knowing man).

Even while leeches are still used to this day, it’s not often you go to the doctor complaining of a sore throat and he pulls out a juicy leech as a remedy. Barber-surgeons relied on this natural blood-letter to fix virtually every medieval ailment, thinking it could drain all impurities in a really good suck session. While it sounds barbaric, leeches do have true medical merit; they are used in some kinds of reconstructive surgery to prevent clotting, as the leeches produce a special anti-coagulant enzyme (called hirudin) in their saliva for that very purpose.

Before radium was seen as a radioactive health hazard, even while it’s used as a form of cancer treatment, it was inserted into water and marketed as a possible fountain of youth. (There was also a time when smoking was thought good for you.) It was suggested that it provided an undefinable “spark of life” when consumed, a death-defying miracle treatment of sorts. It was even put into toothpaste and other household goods. We still sell extremely dangerous substances(i.e. any not-yet-recalled prescription drug) under the pretense that it’ll make life so much better, that is assuming it doesn’t kill you.

Blood-letting stems back to an ancient Greek tradition, where in which blood would be drained from an afflicted individual in order to balance the bodily “humors” which were thought to be the determining factors of one’s health. This practice was kept up in medieval Europe as barber-surgeons would drain blood to rid toxins.

You may notice whenever you go to get a haircut by some lost-in-time WWII vet who really loves baseball, something that looks like a slice of a giant candy cane marking the door. What you may not realize is the origin of such a universal staple which goes back to when haircuts and major surgery shared a common denominator: the barber-surgeon. The red and white striping hails directly from the bloody bandages which said hack-artist would drape around a pole. Thankfully barbers these days only operate with a pair of hair clippers and the occasional lollipop.

The ultimate painkiller, cocaine used to be prescribed for a variety of mundane ailments, ranging from depression to headaches, and was naturally the best sought way to make all bad feelings turn to good ones. That was before it became illegal, or any kind of official evaluation or prolonged study turned out any possible negative effect of treating the stuff like aspirin, such as the addictive qualities, possibilities of overdose, and psychological/cardiological detriments. Freud himself had more than a bad habit, which explained all his vivid dreams, and saw no reason his patients couldn’t benefit themselves from his favorite nose candy. While it may have lost its favor in medical science, it maintained its popularity in nightclubs straight into the eighties.

While such is necessary as an ultimate step, going straight from hypothesis to dissection is wildly reckless, not to mention inhumane. This fact wasn’t learned without making some mistakes along the way: in testing the effectiveness the first polio vaccine, human subjects were used with little to no discrepancy. Few were able to live to tell about it. Now precautions are observed with great fastidiousness and humans are only called in when certainty is closely realized. The fact remains that animals are often used as a human substitute, which is no less cruel if you believe in animal rights. There are alternatives to animal testing, championed by most activist groups, such as plants and bacteria, lifeforms that don’t feel pain, where the only sacrifice is timeliness.

One of several controversial forms of “shock therapy” which involve, essentially, shocking a patient’s system into making a desirable change. Oftentimes such procedures apply to schizophrenics and those with severe cases of mental illness. With this particular example a patient is administered gradually increased doses of insulin until they seize and sink into a several day coma. The thinking is that some kind of normalization will lie on the other side of the coma, when more likely it’s just death. Here we have another “Try Anything” treatment that feigns to be medical science, and not just a bunch of intrusive tinkering, the likes of which aren’t unlike kicking a TV to get it to work right.

Championed by conservatives and conservative-minded people, conversion theory is anything but a joke, that is actually valid as a school of medical thought. Also known as the “gay cure,” this treatment is alleged to reverse the onset of homosexuality as if it were a kind of disability or acquired trait. A big gray area in psychological study, homosexuality has been probed for ages, by both Freud and his daughter Anna, and hasn’t come up with any valid conclusiveness that can be pinpointed under a microscope. Obviously controversial, the therapy has resulted in pulverized self-esteem/worth and the occasional chance of suicide. After all, what can be expected when a child is told something he can’t control is “not right” with him. What comes to mind is Nazi scientists measuring Jewishness against intelligence level: xenophobia is a terrible inspiration for scientific research.




















interesting read
no 8 and 6 are still used today, for specific conditions alright, but they are not outdated
They were included because the purposes they were used for are (reduction of the amount of sanguine humour present in a person) are now obsolete, now that we have more advanced theories of disease than temperament.
Yeah, why were those listed? Along with peglegs. The author talks about artificial legs; isn’t that the same thing? I don’t know why I read these still
They are outdated in that current techniques have advanced considerably, like venesections for haemochromatosis, and leeches in micro-vascular surgery.
Whether homo*****uality is a matter of genetic predisposition or plain choice is kind of irrelevant. Alcoholism is genetic too. The question is whether it is moral or immoral.
Given the population of the earth and the rampant death from starvation and drought, the question would appear to be: Is hetero*****uality moral or immoral? Hetero*****uality could lead to reproduction and the last thing this planet needs is one more mouth to feed.
Damn, good point there lol
Great argument you put up
Well said!
There’s plenty of room and food for quite a few more billion people. People are starving due to lack of access to the food, largely brought on by the state in which those people reside. Whether it be collectivist policies, dogmatically reliious ones, or a kleptocracy, it’s largely the state’s doing, sometimes intentional, but usually not.
There is a HUGE percentage of arable land unfarmed in the world, and we are making great strides in increasing the output of the land already being utilized.
This is truly not a problem. Disliking gays for being gay or thinking that they’re disabled – that’s the problem!
Also – gays both eat and increase the market demand for babies through adoption; lawyered!
Please do not corrupt the phrase ‘lawyered’ when attemtping to justify that which shouldn’t be.
Excellent counter argument to the ill conceived notion that homo*****uality is justified because people should not reproduce.
You are right! We should stop everyone from having kids and not putting any strain on the environment. While we are at it we should sterilize animals as well since they put a strain on the world as well. How about trees and bacteria as well. You make an interesting point but it is ultimately just a thought and has no rational basis whatsoever.
Of course alcoholism is morally acceptable, after all, nobody ever got hurt because someone drunk their asses up with booze. Don’t know about homo*****uality through, maybe being gay could lead you into… eh… uhh… something bad?
What? I really, really hope your being sarcastic. However, if you mean what you say . . . I don’t know how you can sit there and say no one has ever gotten hurt because someone got drunk. A) you CAN overdose on alcohol just as well as any drug and b) ever heard of drunk driving, which kills many, many people c) there are A LOT of people who get violent when they get drunk and then in turn hurt people. So, I really do hope you were joking . . .
Was thinking the same thing, I just didn’t know how to put it
Of course I’m being sarcastic buddy. I was just pointing out how ridiculous his comparing of homo*****uals (virtually harmless) with alcoholics (potentially dangerous) is.
IF you get drunk and drive, it’s not the drunk that kills it’s the DRIVING. The driving is what ends a life, the drunk is just a contributing factor. And if you have a bad enough temper to get violent, THAT’S what hurts people, not the drinking. The alcohol isn’t the problem, it’s the people that drink in excess. I’m not a violent or stupid person, so when I get drunk I don’t drive or beat people. It’s not the alcohol it’s the PEOPLE. Stop using excuses. Oh, and you can OD on anything, even water.
dudes of course he is being sarcastic
Of course it’s harmful! Think of the children! They could learn that it’s ok to accept people who are different. Or worse, they could feel confident enough to express their own *****uality however they please! They might learn to be … tolerant.
Oh, the horror!
The question is whether it is moral or immoral.
Perhaps it is immoral to judge or condemn others about matters that harm no one.
^This
Making a choice is implicit when deciding whether something is moral or not. If there is no choice to be made then it is unfair to conclude that something is moral or immoral. To those of you that think homo*****uality is a (sinful) choice, I would simply ask for you to reflect back on your own life and try to remember when you chose to be hetero*****ual.
ProTip: Homos is immoral.
Nasty stuff, except for lezzies.
wow. youre an ignorant uneducated *****.
Blood letting, in the form of regular blood donation, is used as treatment for haemochromatosis.
…And donating blood also helps lower blood cholesterol levels…But, I wouldn’t say it’s the same as bloodletting, though.
As for leaches…Isn’t that just a means for bloodletting and therefore #8 and 6 should have been joined? Whether you’re using a lancet, a scarificator, or a suction cup, it’s all bloodletting, isn’t it?
PS. Suction cups are still in use in Asia. I’ve had the treatment (not to the point of blood being sucked out) and to my surprise (I’m a skeptic) it produced a soothing tingling sensation which eased some of the muscle pain I was feeling.
Good list, I didnt know some of these!
What about Trepanning?
Have you read “Burr-Hole?” All it takes is a bvlack & Decker drill if anyone wants to give it a shot. It’s said to cool down the brain and it’s easy to see how that could be useful. I often feel mine is overheating…
I hate when people have the nerve to think that homo*****uality is a choice. A good gay friend of mine told me, even after coming out, that if he could he would choose to be straight, only to avoid the persecution and ridicule. He struggled for years thinking he was a freak of nature and a horrible person because people told him being gay was immoral. It makes no sense that such a large amount of people would consciously choose to join a group that is openly hated and mocked, and that legally has inferior rights. It is a natural thing for them, and should be accepted rather than squashed. For God’s sake, it’s 2011, can we just move forward some more?
As for me, I find homo*****uality to be an unquestionable sin, because the Bible tells me so and I listen to everything in the Bible. That’s also why I own numerous slaves, and why my wife only speaks when I address her.
Most of these problems would be solved is Christians actually read the bible. Perhaps Leviticus.
Religion is responsible for all the world’s wars.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo
why do people keep saying that religion is responsible for wars, if there wasnt religion they would just find another difference to use to hate and kill each other such as political beliefs, was the conflict in vietnam about religion no it was get out my country and then became political and I will not say it was a war because it was more of an occupation. Was the war of the roses about religion…no it was about which family should rule England and was the Amercian Civil war about religion no again it was political (my point of view there don’t know that much about US history just taking a stab in the dark so don’t shoot me down)
But I think you get my point to say that Religion is responsible for all the World’s wars is narrow minded and idiotic oh and I am not religious I infact hate the idea of a person kneeling and cowering before something because they are afraid of what might happen.
Why are you singling out christians most of the other great faiths also believe homo*****uality is wrong. Christians in fact are one of the most tolerant of religions when it comes to this area – just look at what happens to Gay people in modern day Muslim countries.
Someone being more bigoted about LGBT people than fundamentalist christians does not make fundamentalist christians bigotry ok (or even tolerable).
Just don’t link all Christians in the same boat. I for one, have come to the conclusion that it’s ok . . . and I’m a Christian. After all, like ian was saying, there’s a verse in Deuteronmy saying homo*****uals will go to hell but in the next line it says we should stone our children for disobeying. Obviously, we don’t stone our children so why pick and choose which verses are relevant to our time, doing that is not a good thing.
Jesus. You sound like me talking to my crazy fundamentalist aunt or my mom. I’m not sure how they could believe it’s a choice. No normal man would choose that path if he has *****ual desires for women. The only thing I still don’t understand about gay guys is how being gay comes with a lisp. Maybe they’re both genetically connected traits or something. I don’t understand why they can continually be treated as second class citizens in today’s world. For the US government, it’s very hypocritical. The fact that most gay people annoy me is irrelevant. They’re still people and they deserve the same rights I have even if I find them creepy or gross.
Many gay people don’t have lisps, but I know that when I imitate girls in jest, I adopt a lisp or stereotypically effeminate voice to imitate them. My thinking is that after a gay person comes out, if they adopt a more feminine persona (going to the ‘tops’ and ‘bottoms’ reference, as my gay friend says), they adopt a more feminine speech pattern. Whether this is conscious or unconscious probably varies, but when you are out, you no longer hide that you are gay, so the more feminine personality is unleashed. As far as ‘tops’ go, my friend is a top, so he doesn’t have many if any feminine aspects. He is as masculine as he was before he was out. These are just my thoughts, I honestly have no evidence other than personal observations to back up any of this.
You’re awesome and I think we should be friends
I don’t think religion is the primary cause of any form of prejudice, prejudice is just a outgrown of ignorance and irrational intolerance. Most of those self proclaimed “conservative christians” that constantly attack the LGBT cause are just idiots hiding their bigotry behind religion and they are such hypocrites that they don’t even have the right to call themselves christians or even conservatives (traditional conservativism, unlike that Republican Party bull***** that goes on by the name of conservativism in the US, does not have anything to do with people’s *****ual orientation). I, for one, am sympathetic to traditional christian values and still I don’t think that gays are “sick”, “sinners”, “abominations” or anything like that.
I don’t blame religion for the hate towards gays. I blame the people who see the Bible and other holy books as the perfect excuse to hate gay people. If the Bible stated that those of color were inferior, I could guarantee people would be openly racist under the guise of “God said so”. Everyone picks and chooses what to obey or adhere to from the Bible anyway. It says a lot about your character if you choose to believe God is loving and that He is the only judge, rather than choosing to believe gay people are abominations and that you should shun them or tell them they need to change or be punished for their “sin”. I use a paraphrased quote from the Bible to counteract the religious homophobes: “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” Hopefully I am not sounding anti-religious, I actually consider myself a Christian. But I hate saying that because of a lot of the idiots and bigots I have to share that label with. My whole schtick is that I believe in God, not religion. Rant is over now, promise.
Conversion therapy is sick. Unfortunately, it’s not quite out-dated yet. Mr. Marcus Bachmann, the husband to possible Republican Presidential candidate Michele Bachmann, is involved with an institution that practices conversion therapy.
Nice list. Although I’m pretty sure cocaine (some form of it; probably not the same stuff you buy on the streets, but pretty similar) is used in mouth and nose related surgeries.
Bachmann is dangerous! He should be fined and have his licence taken away. In his wife’s district the suicide rate is quite high…..I wonder why???
I hope that you can’t vote. Conversion theraphy isn’t sick, it’s not as these therapist are kiddnapping gays (what a basterdization of a good word) and forcing them into theraphy. These people self-enroll or are encouraged to enroll by their peers, there’s nothing wrong with that. What’s wrong with being normal (hetro*****ual)? Let’s be honest, if it weren’t for the “normal” people gays wouldn’t be alive. Also blaming Bachmann for a suicide rate is “retarded”, it’s Minnesota. I would bet that the suicide rates are higher in the winter than in the summer, so should we blame Mr. Icemiser. No, you guys just have it out for a person.
I hope you don’t breed. If you do, I hope your children turn out better than your bigoted butt. They are being forced by family and by attitudes like yours. They need acceptance. You dont have to like it or agree with it, but just leave them alone. They are natural…..even animals show traits of being gay.
As for Bachmann…he’s dangerous. For you to take his side….makes you just as dangerous.
Sshhh
Homo*****uality or homo*****ual acts have been documented throughout human history as often culturally vital and quite normal. It’s been found in many, many species of animals as well.
If it’s not “normal”, why are gay people fighting for their intrinsic rights to happiness? Being gay IS normal for BEING gay. Normal is a relative term. Maybe in your little close-minded world it’s not normal, but really, the larger community (the APA, etc) views it as normal. In fact, all of the major American psychological associations have labelled conversion therapy as dangerous and warn strongly against it.
Conversion therapy has only stopped people from having “homo*****ual” intercourse. It hasn’t changed anyone. They’re still gay, and likely miserable from being repressed.
oouchan, you still didn’t address my points all you did was attack me and my views, not my points. “I hope you are gay, so you don’t breed”, is pretty much all I got from your jumbled response. Next time, learn how to argue the facts, not the person; and then maybe, just maybe, people will respect your argument. Look up rheotorical fallaices (sorry if misspelled) it will help the left, so it would not rely so much on ethos in their arguments. Allowing them to communicate correctly with other people. Normal means the standard use, according to dictionary.com, so yes hetro*****ual activity is in fact normal.
@ you’re…..
Seriously? You berate me for attacking but you started the attack. I did address your points. Pay attention next time.
You stated they weren’t being kidnapped, I replied they are being forced. Which is true based on the accounts of those going through it.
You asked what’s wrong with being straight….I replied its also normal to be gay.
You mentioned my comment about suicide rates and blaming it on Bachmann….check it out…his district is extremely high.
So…I addressed your points. You started the attack then blame me for coming back…then attack again. Really?
Straight is normal, so is gay. Bachmann is a dangerous man. The studies show that what he is doing is dangerous and so very wrong. He continues anyway in spite of that. He should be removed from giving ANY counseling or medical treatments. He’s a fake and fraud because of what he is promoting.
As for your comment…“I hope you are gay, so you don’t breed”, is pretty much all I got from your jumbled response. means you didn’t read anything of what I posted. I meant don’t pass your ignorance, hatred and bigotry to any of your children. I hope they turn out better.
You are hell-bent on defending this guy. Fine. But for the rest of us who know what his studies are doing to people, I won’t defend him and hope one day he is brought to justice.
Food Mountain’s comment above sums it up nicely. They aren’t changed…they aren’t cured…they are miserable, alone, hurt and depressed. THAT is what Bachmann is doing.
What about lobotomies? I assume it would have ruined millions of lives and killed countless of people how probably only had dyslexia. A good example would be the case of Rosemary Kennedy, sister of JFK.
I’m pretty sure they’re still used. The numbers have gone way, way down from the days when they would lobotomize anyone with any mental disorder (in fact, I’m not sure they use them for mental patients anymore), but they are still done for epilepsy occasionally.
I think it’s a good addition to this list. As has been said in the list and the comments, some of these (leeches, blood letting) are still being used. Only, those have seen a sharp decline in popularity, from a panacea to something that’s only used in specific cases.
And, as you say yourself, those criteria are also true for lobotomies.
I was looking at the Related Lists at the bottom and it say steps to Making a Perfect Roast Chicken… Seriously. Come On!
Mmm, chicken and gore… Mmm :-/
Oh and I also think Lobotomies are still used.
Another interesting read would be some of the dangerous “quack” remedies utilized during the Black Death plague during the 14th century.
THANK YOU for making “conversion therapy” #1 !
For those who are interested, a lot of other lists feature lobotomy: Top 10 Bizarre Surgical Procedures, Top 10 Shocking Historical Beliefs and Practices, 10 Fascinating And Notable Lobotomies…
I was given cocain mouthwash when I was in chemo after my mouth and throat were so sore I couldn’t swallow water. The nurse would wait in the room till I spat it out. They said it was the most effective painkiller they had.
Was this in the US? I’ve never heard of that. I’ve heard of lidocaine swish and spit for pain. What country are you in?
Colombian Oncology
lol. I dont hate gays but i also believe it is no way natural.And men who claim to be gay can live a very happy life with their wives if they just meditate..
Not sure if trolling or just very very stupid…
But you didn’t mention the more well-known hysteria treatment. You know, making the woman have an orgasm. Granted, it was more interesting to find a new one, but that comes to mind immediately when I think of this topic.
Leeches are coming back into use. Bloodletting is used, occasionally.
Scary what people used to do… and what they still do, in fact, just making it look more modern and civilized these days.
This is so much better than alien quackery
Quite an interesting read. Loved number one. To this day there are people who really think gay can be cured. It’s like trying to cure blue eyes. Seriously…let’s focus on cancer, AIDS or the common cold…not silly stuff. Those trying to “cure” gayness do far more harm than any good. Most of those being “treated” end up killing themselves.
Good list.
Actually blue eyes is a genetic disorder. But good point.
Electric shock therapy? Like in Return To Oz?
Electric shock therapy, or electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), is still used today, although it’s not as common as it used to be. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_shock_therapy
Thank ou ! Another great list … For all the Nay sayers on here…. It’s obvious that those who act as if they are “experts” and give constant negative feedback – are actually arrogant folks that have never accomplished on damn thing in their life …
They still use cocaine sometimes in Australia fornose surgery
Number 10 is not really outdated, the material just changed a bit, from wooden pegs to plastic fake legs. The only difference is that nowadays fake limbs aren’t too expensive any more, and they are readily available. The general idea is the same: replace the lost limb.
Also, no.1 is plain reprehensible. I’m just flabbergasted how people can falsify research, can destroy the spirit of people, and put the lives of people in danger with risky therapies, all because some ancient fairytale says it’s bad.
Animal testing still conintues till today right?
And I’m all about animal rights, they deserve respect and such, but in the question of medical treatment and cures, animals should be the one to be tested first. Plant life is too non-similar, wouldn’t ya think? And I’d rather animals suffer than my fellow humans (if the medical testing is a failure). Prioritization I mean. Let’s prioritize humans first before animals, but we should still care about them.
Sorry for preaching btw
I agree 100%.
To me, that entry doesn’t even fit in with the rest of the list (the barber one doesn’t either, btw). The writer says it is used to test treatments prior to prescribing them to humans, but a test is not a treatment in and of itself. That entry is more about debating ethics as opposed to being an actual medical procedure later found to be erroneous, misguided, or harmful. It would’ve been easy enough to come up with a more fitting entry, such as are being suggested in the comments.
True. Man you sound so smart. Hehe
cool list.
Conservatives “champion” conversion therapy? Being a Texan conservative, I can confirm that’s just as ridiculous as gay conversion therapy. Thanks, though
What about cigarette smoking?
You forgot Homeopathy
How the f**king f**k did that “Rest Care” idiot nonsense ever happen? That’s among the stupidest bull$hit I’ve heard of in my entire life.
Enjoyable list thank you .
Great timing for this list. Having just had emergency major abdominal surgery, I can only be thankful my surgeon wasn’t a barber! Imagine the horror of having anything remotely invasive done by an untrained, unhygienic hair-cutter without benefit of anesthesia!
The “Cocaine Tooth Drops” was amusing. When my kids were toddlers, and in that “put anything small enough into nose or ears” stage two of them stuffed some beads (supposed to be “gold” from their train set) up their noses…so off to the ER to get the beads out. The Doc used a cocaine nasal spray to numb the nasal passages and allow him to go in with a special tweezer and retrieve the beads.
All is well, right?
Wrong!
Apparently they liked the way the cocaine made them feel, so the next day my son did it again. This time, however, I could see the bead and, not about to give-in to toddler shenanigans, I held him around the waist and blew a fistful of pepper powder at his face. He immediately sneezed the bead about half-way across the room!
ha ha! Mom wins again!
lobotomy?
Could have been a great list, but once again nobody bothered to proof read it before posting. Sadly this is typical of Listverse these days.
Its fine
Am I missing something? I searched for “exorcism” and I see no discussion in this thread.
Haha JK, demons aren’t illnesses.
Actually, the red and white barber pole was initially used as a sign for a certain type of worm removal for humans. The worm would bore its head through the skin and the barber (the one who originally did this) would rap the head of the worm around a matchstick or some other stick and slowly (over the course of few days) would twist the worm out of its bore hole on whatever part of the body it was on creating the well known barber pole!!
nice list, but i was kinda hoping nr. 1 would be excorsism, or since its not medical, at least it could have been a bonus
Politics aside, this piece is bad written. they is poor communication skill wit know nowledge of Ap style. Go back to skool, you Cretan. I’m from Grease. i should no!
Enter your outdated comment here. One of the more fascinating little by-ways of this subject would be the relationship of nasal health to *****uality. Freud was instrumental in having several patients recieve nasal operations for *****ual problems. In one instance several feet (!) of thin gauze was left in a young womans nasal passages, became infected, and very nearly killed her.
2 points to make on an otherwise fascinating list (as an ex-paramedic I am always fascinated by such lists).
ONE: Leeches are not necessarily used to just prevent clotting in reconstructive surgery: the major reason for their use is to relieve pressure from the surgical site from bloods and interstitial leakages and thus prevent reattachment/reconstructive necrosis occurring which might otherwise occur if blood supply were obstructed from surrounding pressure due to ‘fluid swelling’. The use od leeches also helps prevent major scarring. By removing the bloods and fluids, the reattached/reconstructed area swells far less (as already explained), thus preventing the scar from stretching and becoming livid and thus more apparent post recovery.
TWO: The gentlemen who followed the barber-surgeon trade simply because they found they had a “knack for it” were, of a certainty, the hacks you described, BUT – and this is a big one: barbers were generally collected into guilds in centuries gone by and a new barber was only permitted to set up after having been trained apprentice-style by a ‘master’. Many (if not most) of these ‘accredited’ barbers were highly skilled in their surgical techniques – often more so than contemporary doctors as their razors were kept clean and, for the most part, as sterile as times allowed as well as ‘scalpel sharp’ (notice I avoided the obvious pun) while most doctors used questionably clean and frequently dull surgical implements: I have a 19th Century bone saw 3 scalpels and a Lister Knife (now lost) all of which were/are in “operation-theatre readiness” as for cleanliness and keen-ness of edge – the scalpels and knife were so dull that it took pressure to break the skin whereas a modern scalpel will slice at the slightest touch – the razors the barber-surgeons used were more akin to modern scalpels than contemporary ones.
Try acknowledging their talents – they, as much as doctors were the pioneers of modern surgery and could be ranked close behind Lister himself for hygeinic sterile practice!
I totally expected trepanning to be on here…
List verse mentions the nazis in nearly every list.
The Listverse comments are typically rampant with grammar-nazis and spelling-nazis gone amok, however I do believe this is the first ever documented appearance of the rare and elusive Nazi-nazi.
Don’t forget the standard “gay good, religion bad” in every single comment section…regardless of the list topic.
Leeches aren’t outdated, and testing isn’t a “medical treatment.” Meh.
Congrats Dave.
Regarding human/animal testing:
Makes me wonder though why some states protects rights of prisoners and animals and on the other hand allow abortion… I bet some of these animal rights advocates would agree that it is an abuse to animals to abort unborn young animals for no reason at all, unlike babies in the womb…
Those of us working in the psychiatric profession know that 9 is still very much in effect. We just use zombie drugs now to accomplish the same effect. We also know that though not publicized because of media pressure, 1 continues to be highly effective.
Most of these are interesting, but #1 is pure trolling.
Darn right.
number 10 made me lmfao ” get there hobble on” that was just gold hahaha
Conversion therapy was practiced in my country during the communist regime, and was very succesfull! Homo*****uals were locked into mental asylums and treated with strait jackets, electric shocks, cold showers,etc. Many of them were cured, few of them cared about sodomy after being subjected to that treatment. Unfortunately today we are forced to accept this sickness as normality.
The HORROR!
I can imagine the doctors in those times (and some in this times) like “Ok were gonna do this…….and let’s just hope it works! Are you sure doctor? Yeah…yeah…yeah? What’s the worst that can happen?
Other alternatives to animal testing “where the only sacrifice is timeliness”?
I would think “timeliness” equates to human death and suffering if a cure/treatment is delayed.
I agree. I’m glad to see that other people are catching that, too. It is ridiculous that people think we can cure human physiological diseases using plant and bacterial testing.
Post-natal depression is a myth
cokes not the ‘ultimate painkiller’, its not even a painkiller at all. Think you are thinking of heroin. cokes a stimulant with some anesthetic properties.
nice:)
But seriously, Post-Natal depression is a load of bull…
Very good and interesting list.
#1 is nothing short of horrific, I am given to understand via my high school religious study teacher
That conversion therapy was “the rage” in 1960-1980′s as a bi*****ual I am so glad it no longer exists (at least I’ve never heard a case recently in England)
People should live they like
Show me a chick nowadays who isn’t “bi*****ual”…
Bullsh!t attention-grabbing behavior.
Well, I could show you my girlfriend. She couldn’t possibly be a lesbian because she hates all women. She couldn’t be bi either, because she hates all men as well. I sometimes think she hates me, too. Oh, wait… now I’m painting myself into a corner with my reasoning… :/
boring list but great style of narrative u laugh until u get sick
So basically a list designed to get to number one so that you can make your political statement. Unfortunately there have been too many of these lately on Listverse.
I’m pretty sure that last one was just thrown in there. Unlike all the others, there was no actual example to pinpoint what conversion therapy was or is. And really, to state things like “what can be expected when a child is told something he can’t control is “not right” with him,” that leans a lot on an assumption that homo*****uality is born into a human, when we know from this very article that “A big gray area in psychological study, homo*****uality has been probed for ages, by both Freud and his daughter Anna, and hasn’t come up with any valid conclusiveness that can be pinpointed under a microscope,” and we know that so far studies have not shown it to be brought on genetically, which leads us to think of it as more likely a choice or brought upon some by unordinary circumstances of life. and then the last line: classic. “conservatives are all nazis!” right. Other than that, good list.
If homo*****uality or tran*****ualism was “curable”, I believe a lot of people would have already taken up those offers rather than live a life of potential torment, discrimination, and hardships.
“some lost-in-time WWII vet” you lost me here as most good barber shops I know sport the red and white twirl. And no one in there ever saw WWII. It just signals a basic barber shop without hipster superfluousness.
” hate when people have the nerve to think that homo*****uality is a choice. A good gay friend of mine told me, even after coming out, that if he could he would choose to be straight, only to avoid the persecution and ridicule.”
master.bation is a choice. i try not to do it as much but i still do it. doesn’t make it “genetic.” being gay is a choice.
I wonder where the author got the idea that there are alternatives to animal testings today. New medications are still tested on animals. For some tests you will never be able to take bacteria instead. For example, you have to test whether the meds damage gametes, so you have to feed them to goats over several generations.
Also, why are the leeches outdated? Even the author writes that they are used again today.