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Top 10 Worst Moments in US Baseball

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This list examines and ranks moments in American professional baseball’s history we would all like to forget, some because of human folly, some because of terrible fate. Add your own favorites to the comments as always.

10

Pine Tar Incident

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Everyone loves to see a person get really angry. It’s entertaining. But on 24 July 1983, with the Kansas City Royals playing the Yankees, Royal George Brett realized every kid’s dream of saving a game in the 9th inning by slamming a homer. It was a two-run bash that put the Royals up 5-4. As he crossed home and disappeared into the dugout, the home plate umpire, Tim McClelland, was alerted by Yankees manager Billy Martin that Brett’s bat might have more than 18 inches of pine tar on it, from the tip of the handle up.

More than 18 inches of any substance on the bat is a violation of the rules, and after several minutes of measuring the bat against the wide end of home plate, which is 17 inches, the three umpires agreed that Brett was in violation. McClelland then searched for him in the dugout, found him, and motioned that he was out. This is all televised and can be found on YouTube.

Brett immediately charged out of the dugout, so infuriated that his face was bright pink, bellowing profanity and raging at McClelland that he was going to kill him. The Royals manager, Dick Howser, and several of Brett’s teammates had to tackle him to keep him off McClelland, who also voided the home run and declared the game over and the Royals the losers.

A sports commentator quipped, “Brett has become the first player in history to hit a game-losing home run.” The Royals protested the ruling, and it was overturned because an illegal bat would necessitate the batter being called out, but that because pine tar did not assist the distance of a struck baseball, Brett’s home run would count. The game was ordered to be resumed from that point, and the Royals won, 5-4. Brett’s rampage did not exactly send a good message to his young fans.

9

George Steinbrenner

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Steinbrenner was the majority owner of the New York Yankees from 1973 to his death in 2010 at the age of 80. During those 37 years, he made the players, coaches, assistant managers, and fans hate his guts. His nickname was “the Boss” which, by the bye, was also Josef Stalin’s nickname among other Soviets.

Among his more ridiculous tyrannies was forcing the players to shave their beards and keep their hair cut military-style. This was during the 70s and 80s, when The Big Hair was in. Players were allowed very thin mustaches if they wanted. He once told coach Yogi Berra to order Goose Gossage to shave his beard. Berra loathed Steinbrenner, and told him several times that the only reason he worked under Steinbrenner was because he loved the team, and that he did not need or care about the money. Steinbrenner immediately asked him if he wanted a raise, to which Berra answered, “Yeah. Sure.”

Gossage protested the demand by wearing his mustache in the style of Hulk Hogan, which was also against the Boss’s rules. Steinbrenner actually benched Don Mattingly, one of the Yankees’ best at the time, for refusing to cut his mullet. When this infuriated teammates and fans, Steinbrenner relented.

Steinbrenner attended a lavish baseball banquet once and met legendary pitcher Tom Seaver, who made no secret of his disdain for Steinbrenner, criticizing him right to his face. Steinbrenner exploded at him and threatened to fire him on the spot, to which Seaver replied, “I play for the Mets, George.” Steinbrenner snorted and walked off.

He seemed to maliciously enjoy firing people, because he fired managers over 20 times. The most famous of these is Billy Martin, whom Steinbrenner fired and rehired 5 times. The reason for Martin’s firing was always his outspoken criticism of the Boss, and for the Boss to retaliate by firing him every time made a very poor impression throughout the MLB: say one thing he didn’t like and you were gone. There was no margin for error and no possibility of pleasing Steinbrenner.


8

Juan Marichal vs. John Roseboro

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As far as “clearing the benches” goes, no professional incident showers quite such magnificent brutality and dishonor on the sport as the notorious spat between Juan Antonio Marichal Sanchez and John Junior Roseboro that took place on 22 August 1965. Marichal pitched for the San Francisco Giants; Roseboro caught for the Los Angeles Dodgers, and the two teams were (and are) arch rivals.

Twice in the 1st three innings, Marichal deliberately pitched so close to lead-off Maury Wills’s head that he had to duck, just to aggravate him. Roseboro decided to trash talk Marichal when he was up at the plate in the bottom of the 3rd. Marichal was already irritable at being shown up by opposing pitcher Sandy Koufax (more on him later), and he and Roseboro exchanged profanity at the plate, until Roseboro started returning Koufax’s pitches deliberately close to Marichal’s head.

Roseboro finally jumped up and got in Marichal’s face to yell, and Marichal simply backed up and smashed Roseboro in the head three times with his bat, knocking him down and opening a gushing gash in his scalp that required 14 stitches. This cleared both benches into a 15-minute, home plate brawl. Willie Mays of the Giants helped Roseboro back to his dugout while Koufax tried to stop it all. The most famous photograph of the fight shows Marichal with the bat reared over his head and Roseboro falling at his feet.

Marichal was given only 9 days suspension and a $1,750 fine, a very light punishment according to most critics. Roseboro recovered without a problem and the two became friends.

7

Pete Rose Bets on Himself

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Rose played for the Cincinnati Reds from 1963 to 1986, and during that time, he accumulated more hits than anyone else in the history of MLB, 4,256. Ty Cobb had had the most hits for 57 years with 4,191 (Rose had 2624 more at-bats). They are still the only two players with over 4,000 hits. “Charlie Hustle” was one of the finest contact hitters in the history of the game. A contact hitter is so called because he regularly makes contact with the ball, but rarely puts home run power behind it. Cobb was also one of the greatest.

Rose was one of the finest all-round players ever, outstanding as a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd baseman, and a right and left fielder. He got his nickname for his fast base running and his zeal to win games. But frequently during his career, he gambled on himself to win and on his own team to win. He never bet that he or his team would lose. That would have amounted to throwing games. Instead, he knew his team was best and figured he could make a little extra money on the side. He didn’t see it as hurting anyone.

The problem was that he knew it was against MLB’s rules and that if discovered, he would face dire consequences. So when scrutiny came upon him, he lied about it. His fans generally agree that this dishonesty is the only qualm they have with him. He also did no good for his personal reputation when, in 1990, he pled guilty to income tax evasion. He went to prison for that, and his gambling addiction finally found mainstream coverage. He finally came clean in 2004, a long time to treat people like they’re stupid.

Nevertheless, by this point, there is even more shame on MLB, and the staff that votes for Hall of Fame inductees, for still refusing to allow such a superlative talent into the Hall of Fame. Its lack of forgiveness for mistakes dishonors the spirit of the game, just as Rose did. In the end, the Hall of Fame itself is tarnished for such an absence, since the Hall of Fame is supposed to honor talent and legacies. Like the Academy Awards, there should be no politics or decisions based on anything other than performance. But as with all voting awards, humans are the voters, and humans can be given to holding grudges.

6

Ty Cobb Beats up a Fan

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What would a pejorative baseball list be without Ty Cobb? He may be the greatest player ever. Hard to say. He still holds several hitting records after a whole century, including career batting average (.367), and most career batting titles (12). He scored 4,191 and stole home 54 times (with his freshly sharpened cleats aimed right at the catcher’s face). But in terms of personality, Cobb was a monster. He had a notoriously vicious, intemperate disposition, and was extremely racist, once slapping a black elevator operator for mouthing off to him, and even stabbing a black constable who tried to stop him.

He once knocked the Detroit Tigers’ groundskeeper’s teeth out for not raking his (the groundskeeper’s) footprints out of the infield before a game, then wrapped the groundskeeper’s wife up in a chokehold when she grabbed him. He and umpire Billy Evans once resolved to settle their extremely vulgar shouting match during a game by fists afterward. Cobb won the fight by beginning with a kick to Evans’s groin, then pinning him and punching him on the ground.

His worst moment, though, occurred on 15 May 1912, when a heckler named Claude Lueker insulted Cobb at the top of his voice for 6 full innings. Not a good idea. To his credit, Cobb tried to ignore him for 3 innings, calling on the opposing manager and two policemen to eject Lueker from the park, but no one did. Finally, at the end of the 6th inning, with Cobb walking back to the dugout, Lueker shouted, “You’re a half-nigger, Cobb!”

Cobb calmly tossed his hat into the dugout and climbed into the stands before anyone could stop him. Lueker was severely handicapped, with one hand and three fingers of the other hand missing from an industrial accident. Cobb punched him right in the face and when the crowd shouted that Lueker had no hands, Cobb roared, “I don’t give a damn if he got no feet!” and continued pummeling him until he was tackled by his own teammates.

He was suspended for the rest of the season, and his Tiger mates boycotted the next game in his defense. Cobb finally exhorted them to play the season out. He put Lueker in the hospital with a broken jaw and nose.

5

Black Sox Scandal

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If you’re a baseball fan, you need no backstory to this. But for those who don’t know, the 1919 World Series was played between the Chicago White Sox (who were branded “Black Sox” for what they did) and the Cincinnati Reds. The White Sox were owned by Charles Comiskey, a tyrannical jerk who viewed the players as his property to do with as he liked. He made Ty Cobb look like Jesus Christ. Comiskey was, like all owners, allowed to pay his players whatever he felt like paying them, and under the MLB Reserve Clause, the players had no say in the matter.

Comiskey promised Eddie Cicotte, a pitcher, a $10,000 bonus if he could win 30 games. When Cicotte won his 28th, Comiskey benched him for the rest of the season to keep from paying up. Comiskey promised the whole team a bonus if they won the 1919 pennant. That bonus was a case of 12 bottles of flat champagne. He forced them to pay their own laundry bills for their uniforms.

Comiskey’s infuriating behavior toward the team caused at least 6 of them to conspire to throw the 1919 World Series to punish him. They were Eddie Cicotte, Arnold Gandil, Charles Risberg, Fred McMullin, Oscar Felsch, and Claude Williams. These 6 men, along with two others, were banned from professional baseball for life. The other two were George Weaver and “Shoeless” Joe Jackson, accused of knowing about the fix and doing nothing to stop it.

Today, history looks more kindly on Weaver, and much more kindly on Jackson. Jackson was illiterate and honestly had no direct knowledge of the fix. He may have safely assumed something was wrong after watching the 6 conspirators making ridiculous errors. Weaver knew what was up, but refused to rat out his friends. He and Jackson played magnificently throughout the series. Jackson is today remembered as one of the absolute finest hitters in history, 3rd in all-time career batting average with .356. In his rookie season of 1911, he hit .408.

The Reds won the series 5-3. Back then the series was of 9 games. The conspirators were great ballplayers but terrible actors, because in the games they decided to throw, even the batboys knew something was amiss. Cicotte, an outstanding pitcher, somehow gave up 5 runs in the 4th inning of the 1st game. This drew immediate suspicion. The Sox lost this game 9 to 1, a ridiculous score for such a fine team.

They lost the 2nd game, too. Dickie Kerr, a rookie pitcher, pitched a shutout in the third, proving he had nothing to do with the fix. Jackson, in the 4th game, attempted to throw a man out at the plate, but Cicotte deliberately caught and fumbled the ball to let him score. Jackson hit a monumental .375 for the series. By the time the series was over, there were more boos than cheers throughout the games. Had it not been, the following year, for a new star the fans could get behind, Babe Ruth, baseball might have died altogether because of this debacle. The 8 players listed above are still ineligible for the Hall of Fame.


4

Sandy Koufax Throws His Arm Away

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One of the saddest ends to what could have been universally accepted as the greatest pitching career in baseball history was the premature retirement, due to severe arthritis, of Sandy Koufax. He played for 12 years, always for the Brooklyn or Los Angeles Dodgers, and yet after those 12 short years, he had posted 2,396 strikeouts, and a career ERA of only 2.76, second lowest in the history of the live-ball era.

His best seasons were 1965 and 1966. For several years, he was pitching full 9 innings of game after game with horrible pain in his left arm, centered at the elbow. The morning after one of these games, he woke to find his arm black and blue from shoulder to wrist from hemorrhaging. To deal with the pain, he began taking Empiring with codeine every night, and sometimes during a game, Butazolidin, and applying a capsaicin cream to his elbow. After each game, he had to immerse his left arm in a tub of ice.

And still, he went out a pitched another complete game the next day, and again, and again. On 9 September 1965, in spite of his agony, he pitched a perfect game. More people have orbited the Moon than have pitched perfect baseball games. It is defined as no hits, walks, struck batters, or any base reached safely by the opposing team. 27 up, 27 down. Koufax’s perfect game also featured the most strikeouts, 14 out of 27.

His pitches were the stuff of legend. Carl Yastrzemski, who retired with 3,419 hits, remarked that “hitting the curveball off Sandy Koufax was like drinking coffee with a fork.” Koufax threw with a marked over-the-top arm motion, not out to the side. This, along with his extremely strong legs, gave him blazing speed with every pitch. His curveball was clocked at 94 mph. It curved from 12 o’clock to 6 o’clock all within the last half to one-third of the distance to the batter, forcing the batters to swing almost straight up, as if golfing, in order to hit it in its descent.

He threw a four-seam fastball that floated upward up to 4 times before reaching the catcher. All the while, his arm was hurting so badly that he began tipping his pitches, letting the batters know what he was about to throw as he wound up. Nevertheless, as Willie Mays put it, “I knew every pitch he was going to throw and still I couldn’t hit him.”

At the end of 1966, with a 1.73 ERA in the books, he had to call it quits. He couldn’t sleep because of the pain, and considered having his arm amputated. Once he gave up pitching, however, his arm quickly healed. Jeff Torborg, who caught his perfect game, once remarked, “It’s like God came and took his arm back.”

3

Steroids

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The phrase that has been thrown around quite a lot during this ongoing scandal is, “The Babe did it on hotdogs and beer.” A lot of people hate to see a decades-old record broken, because they get used to the number involved. The most famous home run number is “60,” ever since Ruth hit that many in a season. Maris broke it 34 years later by just one run. But then, 37 years later in 1998, both Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa surpassed this record in a race against each other. Sosa finished with 66, McGwire with the magic 70.

It seemed too good to be true that not one, but two players could bring down such a hallowed record simultaneously. Then Sosa was caught using a corked bat, which is said to enhance swinging speed. His career would never recover. Then, in 2005, steroids hit the major news media so hard that Congress subpoenaed McGwire, Jose Canseco, and Rafael Palmeiro, three power hitters, to testify under oath. Sosa was discovered to have been using steroids. Canseco admitted to using them and personally injecting Palmeiro, who vehemently denied ever using them. Only months later, he was caught using them. He had lied to Congress and the fans. McGwire simply took the 5th on every question, but 5 years later he came clean and admitted to using them for years to overcome injuries. He claimed they had nothing to do with his home runs, which is obviously false, since all steroids enhance physical strength.

The scandal still hasn’t gone away, and probably never will, since the records remain in the books, and the two most hallowed hitting records, single-season and career home runs, are now both held by Barry Bonds, who has himself been convicted of obstructing justice in the steroids scandal, and is widely believed, though not yet confirmed, to have used them many times throughout his career. After he broke both records, with 73 homers in the 2001 season, and a career 762 homers in 2007, it was expected that he would remain an active player for years afterward, but the SF Giants refuse to renew his contract, and no other team would buy him, the truest testament to public opinion of him.


2

Christy Mathewson Gets Gassed

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Mathewson was one of the mightiest pitchers in baseball’s history. His whole career fell within the dead ball era, when a single ball was used for the entire game. Such balls were difficult to see after they were covered in infield dirt and tobacco spit (spitballs were legal until 1921). Mathewson was no stranger to the spitball, but he was known as a “control pitcher,” as opposed to a power pitcher like Nolan Ryan. Whereas, Ryan could heave a 100+ mph fastball, he isn’t renowned for his skill at any other pitch, and had quite a few wild ones.

Mathewson, however, could throw strikes with everything. You name it: the 2-seam fast, the 4-seam, the forkball, slider, sinker, curve, knuckle, knuckle-curve, palm, palm-curve, and his money pitch, the screwball, which curves in the opposite direction of the curveball. Mathewson could fling them all right into the strike zone and fan anyone.

Consider that, whereas Nolan Ryan scored the most career strikeouts at 5,714, 839 more than 2nd place, he also scored the most walks with 2,795. Thus he walked about 49% of the batters he faced throughout his career. Mathewson, on the other hand, struck out 2,507 batters, while he walked only 848, which is 33% of them. That’s a gargantuan margin of difference between two greats and serves to show the accuracy of “the Christian Gentleman.”

Unfortunately, he was stolen too early from baseball’s posterity, when, in 1918, he enlisted into WWI as a chemical weapons trainer for the infantry. Ty Cobb and George Sisler also enlisted into the same unit, and the three saw each other frequently in France. As a captain, Mathewson’s job was to oversee the training, in gas chambers, of controlled release of mustard gas amid soldiers wearing their gas masks.

His voice inside the chamber was misunderstood by the gas operator outside as the order to release the gas. Once they heard the hiss, Mathewson first saw to the soldiers’ safety by ordering their masks on immediately. Only then, when milliseconds were precious, did he shout for the gas to be turned off. The operator did so, but there was a delay of more time than Mathewson could hold his breath. One private attempted to remove his mask, but Mathewson, with his eyes shut tight, knowing the sound of a mask being removed or put on, quickly yanked the man’s hands from his face and shouted for him to remain still.

Mathewson finally had to take a breath or risk blacking out. That single breath before the room was purged gave him tuberculosis. He tried coaching for a while when he returned the next year, but had to take frequent vacations for his lungs’ health, before finally retiring in 1921. He died 4 years later at 45 years old. His teammates openly wept at the first game following his death.

1

Lou Gehrig’s Disease

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Lou Gehrig has the persistent misfortune to remain in Babe Ruth’s shadow as a power hitter. Gehrig hit his stride in 1926, his third season as a professional, in which he scored 20 triples, 47 doubles, 16 home runs, 116 RBIs, and an average of .313. Ruth posted much better home run and batting average scores, but if there was any ignoring that Lou Gehrig had joined him in the ranks of power hitting, he shattered that illusion the next year.

The 1927 Yankees remain, in most opinions, the finest professional baseball team in history. Ruth did himself proud by slamming 60 home runs to Gehrig’s “mere” 47, but Gehrig outpointed him in RBIs at 175, especially impressive given that Ruth batted 3rd and Gehrig 4th, and thus the bases were frequently emptied right before “the Iron Horse” stepped up. The Yankees’ line-up that season featured “Murderers’ Row”: Earle Combs, Mark Koenig, Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Bob Meusel and Tony Lazzeri.

Combs and Koenig were outstanding contact hitters and routinely on base to be batted in by the next two. Gehrig’s position as 4th is why he still holds the career grand slam record of 23. His average that season was .373, by far the highest of the team, with Ruth and Combs at .356 (still stellar).

Late in his career, Gehrig, generally considered the finest 1st baseman in history, began having trouble making easy put-outs at 1st. He had run the bases like lightning for years but now only trotted, and slid very clumsily. He tripped over bases, and most obvious, by late 1938, his hitting power was noticeably diminished. He could make contact but somehow couldn’t manage home runs as well.

Everyone knew he was not guilty of partying and bingeing like his recently retired friend, Babe. This was not in Gehrig’s nature. By April 1939, he was posting his very worst scores ever. Only a .143 average with 1 RBI. Commentators remarked that he was hitting the ball on a regular basis like always, but the ball wasn’t going anywhere.

It was 2 May of that year when he finally broke his consecutive games streak of 2,130, a record that stood until 1995. Gerig walked up to the coach and said, “I’m benching myself, Joe.” He saw that he was only hindering the team and couldn’t do anything anymore.

His wife and he finally flew to the Mayo Clinic, where, after 6 days of testing, Dr. Charles Mayo himself wept as he read Eleanor Gehrig the diagnosis, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. It causes the brain’s motor functions to deteriorate over several years or even decades, such that the victim tries to run or walk or stand up but gets slower and weaker without any impairment to the brain. The brain slowly loses its ability to communicate with muscles all over the body. There is almost never any pain at all, and for an athlete, seemingly no good reason for the bad performance.

Gehrig’s farewell, on 4 July 1939, between the games of a doubleheader, remains what most consider the most painfully bittersweet moment in the history of baseball. Gehrig was showered with gifts from teammates, rival players, coaches, managers, owners, and fans, which he took and quickly set down on the infield because he was too weak to hold them.

After Babe Ruth said a few words, Gehrig addressed the crowd of 61,808 in Yankee Stadium and told them not to feel bad for him, that he was “the luckiest man on the face of the earth.” His number 4 uniform was the first to be retired by any team in MLB history. In December of that year, he became the youngest inductee in to the Hall of Fame at the age of 36 (Sandy Koufax remains the record-holder today). He received the most votes for a position on the All-Century Dream Team in 1999.

He died 1 and a half years later on 2 June 1941 at his home, due to asphyxia from the ultimate paralysis of his diaphragm and abdominal muscles. Many sports writers and experts are of the opinion that had he played a long career of 20-25 years, instead of just 16, he would have surpassed many of Babe Ruth’s hitting records.



  • Hhsssws

    Cool list.

    • Annoyed

      This list was too Americanized.

      • Tim

        It’s about baseball, dummy! You want a list of, what? the 10 Greatest Ukrainian Baseball Players? Sheesh!

      • Tim

        It’s about Baseball! Dummy! Would you like to see a list of the 10 Greatest Ukrainian Baseball Players?

      • atlanticjaxx

        As an Englishman who knows next to nothing on the game, I found it fascinating.

    • what

      yeah i’m not a huge baseball fan, but it’s great to see all the intricacies that are rarely mentioned

  • Algeria Rulez

    “The Babe did it on hotdogs and beer.”

    I love the way in the US a general attitude of unhealthiness is glorified.

    • Scott

      You do realize that the phrase is meant to mock those using performance enhancing drugs and not to glorify unhealthy eating habits, right?

    • Zach

      For being unhealthy, he sure did a lot more than you.

    • what

      yeah you def read that wrong. it’s saying that he was so good that he hit 60 home runs in spite of the hot dogs and beer, not because of it

  • Jakeryder

    How about 10 cent beer night?

    • what

      is it just me or is the math way off in #2? if the guy struck out 5700 people and walked 2700 people, how is his percentage of batters walked 49%? closer to 30% Id say, not counting any of the batters who got hits….

  • Lily

    My brother passed away from ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease) last year.

    I knew Gehrig would be number one on this list as soon as I saw it on the front page. He was a truly remarkable person and immensely talented ball player. Great list.

  • Will Trame

    I’m surprised that the 1994 major league baseball strike was omitted. For the first…and perhaps only…time in my life the World Series was cancelled.

    ALS is one nasty disease. Album cover artist Neon Park died form it in 1993 and I believe that one of the members of the rock band Toto has been recently diagnosed with it.

    Steinbrenner would have made a good military drill instructor.

    I’m not really a big baseball fanatic but this was a good list.

    • Gah.. I wish Maggy was here. Anyways, let’s work on what you both love -music. You know that piano tune at the baseball, or football, has anyone rights to it?

      It’s not much. But sometimes that’s *all* is needs. Those few chords KNOW you at the ball game. Soooo.. who started that? And did/do they collect?

  • Cricket Fan

    Baseball is for boys, Cricket is for men!

    • I thought cricket was the second most popular sport in English public schools, right after buggery? Yeah, cricket is for men. Just like sheep are for men in Greece.

    • FuckCricket

      Cricket is the dumbest sport in the world. I’d rather play literally anything else than that idiotic game.

      • I think one was modelled off of the other. Gee, I wish Maggy was here. *miss him face emoticon*

      • drunkenamericuntsports

        And yet it’s still x10,000 better than baseball. Strange that

  • La litiere qui ne colle pas aux pattes

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  • Uncle Ronnie Says

    Hi im Timmy. The list you just read or looked at the pictures was about infamous moments in baseball mostly including baseball players (aka players of baseball). In conclusion as i have no interest in the sport of baseball, i found this list quite dull and flat (like that french prostitute i accidently bumped into once) and altogether hated this list, i give it 5 thumbs up.

    • Scott

      Good for you. Thank you for your pointless input.

      • Uncle Ronnie Says

        Thank you Sir.
        From your hero, Timmy.

    • French prostitute

      On the contrary Timmy, yours was quite dull and flat!

      • moxie2012

        Lol.. poor Timmy. =)

  • vic

    We forgot about the ’94 strike? phil Niekro incident

  • Rob

    Im English and have no interest in baseball nor have ever watched a game.
    But read every word anyway, good list, informative and interesting.

    • This^ .. 1 (kinda.. just if I was English I couldn’t bear to admit it in public) :lol: ;)

      • I meant ” 1″

        • Lol wut? Hmm.. suddenly my phone won’t do the arithmatic plus sign. I dunno what that’s about. I didn’t think I missed it the first time, but thought, maybe, I’m spaz and typing too fast for brain. Well, it’s happened twice.. no mistake.

          I was only taking the pìss and stirring, just giving a li’l jab, ya know. But it’s kinda all killed when even basic symbols don’t show. Lol the retard turns back on me. Damn! :lol:

  • Not Being Fresh

    Very good list. I’m not a sports or baseball fan but I enjoyed it.

    I don’t think Steinbrenner’s dress code was such a bad thing. It kept the Yankees from looking like buffoons. I think he limited their jewelry, too.

  • Patrick

    I’m not a fan of baseball and almost didn’t read the list. I’m glad that I did though, I was one of best that I’ve seen on listverse. I always like to think about Ty Cobb when people complain about how athletes behave today.

    • QDV

      Cobb also bragged to have pistol-whipped someone to death in the streets of Detroit after they attacked him. It’s questionable that this actually happened, but that Cobb bragged about it speaks volumes about him. I admire this guy on the field, but off the field…an absolute monster.

      Where’s Marge Schott in all of this?

  • Zagging

    Ray Chapman killed by a pitched ball.

    Mike Coolbaugh killed by a batted ball (minor leagues, but still professional US baseball).

    Roberto Clemente killed in plane crash on humanitarian mission to deliver aid to Nicaraguan earthquake victims.

    1994 strike.

    10 cent beer night riots.

    Each one of these were much more worthy of being on the list than George Steinbrenner or the Pine Tar incident, which ultimately was not a bad moment because the call was reversed and the Royals won the game. If you wanted to put it on a list of the funniest moments in baseball history I wouldn’t argue.

    Not your best effort, Flamehorse.

    • Troll feeder

      amen to that bro , Roberto Clemente definitely deserves to be on this list

    • HardonforRich

      I agree with this guy. And what about the disco demolition night. I guess it was pretty funny but still…

      • Thomas

        the hats are so huge like that because Kevin Mench thaeetrned to sue new era if they didn’t make hats big enough for his head lol)but yeah, just wear it and it’ll break in beautifully

    • QDV

      You stole my thunder with Ray Chapman and Clemente. In the case of the latter, geez, even today, I think “How wrong was that, that this wonderful human being and baseball player had to die while helping others?”

      Speaking of Chapman, in Al Stump’s book, “Cobb,” old man Cobb told about how he’d talk trash to Carl Mays (who threw the pitch) and call him “Beano” during games, in order to unsettle him.

      I was watching Disco Demolition Night on TV when that happened. Surprised that wasn’t on the list. While that stunt was a dud, I don’t know how many folks are unaware of Bill Veeck’s influence on today’s game, with all the fun stuff that occurs when the ball’s not in play.

  • Zair

    Seen the list and said it would be boring as hell because i am not a baseball fan to my surprise it was very well written and appealing even to a baseball illiterate like me :)

  • Good post!

  • ericvg16

    Ray Chapman!! He was killed on the field!!

    And also, Koufax only blew his arm out because he had a pretty anemic offense most years.

  • mom424

    Very excellent list Flamehorse; made me mist up on a Sunday morning. Didn’t know about Christy Mathewson, nor the details of many of the other entries. Great job!

  • “Rose played for the Cincinnati Reds from 1963 to 1986….”

    Nope. Phillies…Expos….

  • “Consider that, whereas Nolan Ryan scored the most career strikeouts at 5,714, 839 more than 2nd place, he also scored the most walks with 2,795. Thus he walked about 49% of the batters he faced throughout his career. Mathewson, on the other hand, struck out 2,507 batters, while he walked only 848, which is 33% of them. ”

    Huh? IF ANY pitcher walked anywhere near 33% of his batters, he’d never see Single A ball. What exactly are you trying to say? This is horrible.

    • Yeah, that was some bad math. I think he divided BB/SO when he meant to do BB/BF (batters faced). For Matty, it would be 4.4% of the batters he faced walked, while for Ryan it was 12.3%. Same point, just bad math.

  • ARSE

    Worst moments in baseball is the invention of baseball. So freakin boring lol. Football is the new Americas past-time. Baseball needs to die out already.

  • Doobie

    “Consider that, whereas Nolan Ryan scored the most career strikeouts at 5,714, 839 more than 2nd place, he also scored the most walks with 2,795. Thus he walked about 49% of the batters he faced throughout his career. ”

    This would only be correct if he walked OR struck out every player he faced. You have not included the numbers of players who got hits, flew out, grounded out, etc., which makes up a huge amount of the “batters he faced”.

    Still a good list! The anti free agency conspiracy would have made another good entry.

    • David S

      Ryan faced 22,575 batters in his career and walked 2,795 for a percentage of about 12.4%. Mathewson faced 18,913 batters in his career and walked 848 for a percentage of about 4.5%. Source: http://www.baseball-reference.com

      • Michael

        So the point is that Christy Mathewson is better than Nolan Ryan? Collective “duhhhhhhhhhh” from everyone who knows baseball on this site.

        • David S.

          “Never argue with a pig; it just frustrates you and annoys the pig.” – Attributed (probably incorrectly) to Mark Twain

        • Joe

          I think the references are more for people who don’t know a ton about baseball. I do know who Nolan Ryan is and it was nice to have the comparison to appreciate what a talent Mathewson was instead of just Mathewson’s stats alone . Given these stats though, I can see why it would be seen as an obvious statement to baseball enthusiasts.

  • BryanJ

    I love baseball. Great List, I have never heard of baseball player who hit the catcher with a bat. That is crazy.

  • Steve Algernon

    An actually quite cool list! (I’m not even a really big baseball fan)

  • Sender

    I laughed, I cried. I learned. Thanks for the list.

  • Lars Benders

    “Rose played for the Cincinnati Reds from 1963 to 1986….”

    “Consider that, whereas Nolan Ryan scored the most career strikeouts at 5,714, 839 more than 2nd place, he also scored the most walks with 2,795. Thus he walked about 49% of the batters he faced throughout his career. Mathewson, on the other hand, struck out 2,507 batters, while he walked only 848, which is 33% of them. ”

    Both of these quotes are garbage. Makes me wonder about the accuracy of the rest of the article. Particularly the Ty Cobb stories. Are there any good references for this? Seems we don’t need such a thing in these days of web reporting. Just write it with conviction and it must be true, eh?

    Garbage.

    • Fred

      “Rose played for the Cincinnati Reds from 1963 to 1986….”

      Except, of course, for those years in which he didn’t.

      This Rose portion seems particularly badly written. Surely the author knows that the reason Rose was not voted in the Hall of Fame is because he is not eligible? And the reason he is not eligible is that he was put on the ineligible list as part of his plea with MLB? In other words, Rose agreed to not be considered for the Hall. Others have pointed this out below.

      It might be argued that Rose thought MLB would, at some point, put him back on the list, but this doesn’t make this a Hall of Fame voter problem.

  • RoboChef

    This list was enjoyable to read even though I’m not a fan of the sport (which isn’t even played over here in Finland) and the only exposure to it for me has come through American movies. Good job in making a topic for a fairly small interest group interesting for everybody!

  • timmar68

    I don’t understand a couple things. Why is Pete Rose banned from baseball for betting on his team when other ballplayers have done things much more serious things (and lied about it) and they aren’t banned?

    And why was Marian Davis (I think that was her name) sent to jail for drug use and lying to Congress and those others players who did the same were not?

    • Michael

      Pete Rose agreed to his ban from baseball in exchange for the commissioner not releasing all the information from the investigation. Betting on baseball ruins the integrity of the game. If you actually buy the “he only bet on his team to win” that he claimed, then I have a bridge to sell you.

    • David S.

      In the aftermath of the Black Sox scandal (see #5), and other earlier incidents, the major leagues put in strict and very clear prohibitions against betting on baseball. The prohibition and penalties are reportedly posted in every locker room. It’s much more black and white than other issues where rules and penalties were less explicit.

      • meka

        Ger name was Marion Jones!

  • Michael

    Pete Rose never bet on his team to lose…according to him. Not exactly the most credible source.

  • Todd

    “the staff that votes for Hall of Fame inductees”

    You mean the Baseball Writer’s Association of America?

    Also, way to make no mention of Pete Rose being banned from baseball for life. According to Rule 3, Section E of the Hall of Fame’s election rules, “Any player on Baseball’s ineligible list shall not be an eligible candidate” and thus Rose is completely ineligible to appear on the Ballot.

    Rose’s scumbaggery will always overshadow his achievements, and his lifetime ban from the game is well-deserved.

    Nice research, though. To use the parlance of the game, not mentioning Rose’s ban is something of a “swing and a miss.”

    • Michael

      And how about the fact that he AGREED to the ban. He is fighting it now because he finally “admitted” to it. Congratulations Pete, you admitted to something we’ve all known about for 20+ years.

  • Michael

    Why would Yankees fans hate Steinbrenner? He is a huge reason they have the money to spend and spend every season and compete for championships. I’m a Red Sox fan and I wish our owners cared about winning as much as the Steinbrenners do, any sports fan should.

    • Mr. Steinbrenner: Nice to meet you. 

      George Costanza: Well, I wish I could say the same, but I must say, with all due respect, I find it very hard to see the logic behind some of the moves you have made with this fine organization. In the past 20 years you have caused myself, and the city of New York, a good deal of distress, as we have watched you take our beloved Yankees and reduce them to a laughingstock, all for the glorification of your massive ego! 

      Mr. Steinbrenner: Hire this man!

  • Michael

    “He was suspended for the rest of the season, and his Tiger mates boycotted the next game in his defense.”

    Considering this occurred in May and Cobb played 140 games in 1912, I don’t think he was suspended for the rest of the season.

    And honestly, I’d say stabbing someone is probably worse than this. As hated as Cobb was, he received more Hall of Fame votes than Babe Ruth in the first HOF ballot in 1936.

  • Michael

    Shoeless Joe Jackson honestly didn’t know about the fix? Where’s your source?

    • Scott

      “Shoeless” Joe definitely was in on the fix. His play during the series was ridiculously inconsistent at suspect times.

      • Fred

        “ridiculously inconsistent”

        Don’t suppose you can quantify this in some way? The guy set a Series record for hits. Had no errors in the field. Was 5-12 with men in scoring position. You can say he was in on the fix (as one can say anything, without proof). But saying he was “ridiculously inconsistent” can only be said with the facts against you.

  • “Whereas, Ryan could heave a 100+ mph fastball, he isn’t renowned for his skill at any other pitch”

    This statement is incorrect. Anybody who knows the sport knows that Ryan was respected for all three of his pitches; curveball, fastball and changeup (the latter of which was often as effective as the fastball but despite looking identical upon release was up to 10mph slower). If you’re going to take him to task for his walks, it’s only fair to also mention his lifetime 3.19 ERA.

  • Lord_Nick

    Kinda suprised you didn’t put the creation of the Stankees as number 1 worst moment in baseball, but hey, great list none the less!! iI look forward to more excellent baseball lists!

    • Tryclyde

      Jealous of 27 World Series championships are we?

  • Baseball

    This was a great list. I’m a huge baseball fan and actually had a family member pass away from ALS. If anyone is interested in learning more about the game of baseball and it’s history they should check out the ken burns documentary ‘baseball.’ you will not be disappointed.

  • Thorlite

    Enjoyed this list even though I have no interest in baseball. Really informative and well written.

    Bravo!

  • assfaceo

    Everything I need to know about baseball I learnt off The Simpsons. And I told you to shave those sideburns off!!

  • Despite some minor errors and overstatements, nice list. I would agree with a number of commenters, however, that the cancellation of the 1994 World Series needed to be on this list, if not right at the top. World Wars didn’t cancel it, the 9/11 attacks didn’t cancel it, the Depression didn’t cancel it, but the owners’ greed and Bud Selig’s incompetence did. That was the blackest day in MLB since the Black Sox.

    • Khon

      one louderI would agree w/ the ohetrs. its the only way I know is to wear it a lot. what I do is buy it a size bigger cuz when you sweat the hat shrinks to fit and is much more comfortable than trying to stretch a smaller one.

  • Cubs Fan

    Honestly this is a terrible list.

    Every baseball fan knows that the Black Sox Scandal is without question the darkest moment in baseball history. I could somewhat understand you putting it at 2nd or 3rd if you had a very compelling argument for something else…but 5th???

  • The Train

    I think the Armando Galarraga incident deserves to be on here. Although it was handled very well by both Galarraga and the umpire, it still robbed a pitcher of one of the most difficult accomplishments in baseball.

  • Dylan

    This was a good list, but I could definitely tell the author didn’t play baseball himself….

    “It curved from 12 o’clock to 6 o’clock all within the last half to one-third of the distance to the batter, forcing the batters to swing almost straight up, as if golfing, in order to hit it in its descent.”

    Umm, no, just because he threw a nasty 12-6 does not mean the hitters had to try to uppercut the ball to hit it… that makes no sense… a good hitter will have the same swing for every pitch… Also there is no such thing as a rising fastball, it’s physically impossible. Back then they thought the ball was rising but in reality the ball just wasn’t dropping as much…

  • bob

    Good list but I would drop 9 and 10 to add any of the following

    As others have said Ray Chapman being killed on the field

    While not a moment (though neither is George Steinbrenner’s tenure) the banning of African Americans for over half a century

    Steve Howe’s constant banning and readmission from the game for drug abuse

    The Cleveland Indians disco sucks record burning and 10 cent beer night

    Bill Veeck constatly making a mockery of the game to bring in fans

    The A’s franchise habit selling off all of their good players (in the 30’s and 40’sunder Connie Mack again in the early 70’s)

    the 94 labor stoppage

    • Jakeryder

      Disco demolition night was in Chicago not Cleveland. Cleveland learned their lesson after 10 cent beer night.

      • QDV

        A visit to the Negro Leagues museum in Kansas City makes one appreciate just how ignorant people were back in the day, and there’s plenty of fuel for “What if?” kinds of stories to be had there.

  • Star Spangled Boner

    I’m a baseball fan, and I loved the shit out of this list. My only quarrels are that Ray Chapman and 1994 didn’t make it. The language was very simplified from the Wikipedia pages, making it much easier and more fun to read. Keep up the great work, Flamehorse!

  • Sgt. York

    I don’t see how you can not include the death of Josh Gibson, the treatment of Hank Aaron or what happened to Curt Flood. Curt flood might be number eleven, but the other two should be up there in place of Bret Butler and Steinbrenner.

  • GO SENS GO

    Baseball sucks. Watch hockey. It’s amazing.

    • fuckhockey

      yea, the only good thing about hockey is every once in a while there is a fight. other than that is a sport for cock suckers

  • October 25, 1986. Game 6 of the World Series between the Boston Red Sox vs. The N.Y. Mets, Shea Stadium in New York, The Red Sox are one strike away from winning the World Series having a 3 game to 2 game lead over the Mets and winning 5-2 over the Mets in game 6. The Red Sox Clubhouse is decorated for a celebration. Then the inevitable happens. The Mets tie it up 5-5, the Red Sox do nothing in the Top of the 10th. The Mets get up into the bottom of the 10th. Mookie Wilson of the Mets is up to bat. Bill Buckner (who couldn’t even stand on his own legs) is playing First Base. The Mets have a man on third base. Mookie hits a routine ground ball to Buckner and OOPS !!!, The ball goes between his legs and the man on third scores. Mets 6 – Red Sox 5. For those of you who are still alive and remember, I am sure that you remember exactly where you were when President Kennedy was assassinated. I was too young to remember as I was only 15 months old when that happened. But this game ? I remember which section of the couch I was sitting on (The Middle), the brand of Beer that I was drinking (Rolling Rock), The Brand name and size of the T.V. I was watching it on (Zenith Color, 25″ TV), the snack that I was having (Vermont Cheddar Cheese on Ritz crackers). The City that I was in (Concord, N.H.) the address (175 Pleasant St., Apt # C) and lets not forget the bottle of upgrade hard liquor we were going to drink for a celebration (A Bottle of Chivas Regal and not to be opened until the Red Sox won) we’ll they didn’t, so we drank the bottle anyway to drown out our sorrows.

    • hahaha…eff redsux.

      • @ bigskimarche. I’m a big Red Sox fan, but I am going to have to agree with you right now. Did you see the game the other day as the Sox were winning 9-0 and all of a sudden the Yankees score 15 runs. Listen, its going to be a very long season for the Red Sox as they now have Bobby Valentine as manager (Mr. Fake Mustache, that was an incident from 1999). The Sox will play below .500 pct. and will probably end up last in their division. I take your comment with pride and honesty, man !!

  • Pauly

    Steinbrenner was God in a Yankees cap.

  • Name

    Everybody has their own credentials. These credentials are stupid. #1 Black Sox Scandal. #2 Journalism and Casual fans. Stupid fans and ESPN/Journalism that fuel ignorant sports fans are the worst thing to happen to sports. The only debate is Journalism is prob #1.

  • Tommy

    The only problem i have with this is your logic in the Sandy Koufax one, the math you did was for strikeout-to-walk ratio, not “percentage of batters walked” they faced far more batters than what they struck out, so just fix that and i’ll be content haha.

  • Bryan

    Marge Schott was the worst thing to happen to baseball. A racist, homophobic, bigot that ran a baseball team that supported the policies of Adolf Hitler.

  • John

    How is George Steinbrenner a “moment”?

    • @ John. George Steinbrenner would have made a perfect SS Nazi, don’t you think ?

      • Scott

        It’s amazing how people never mention how giving and compassionate Steinbrenner was capable of being throughout his lifetime.

        • Fred

          Probably because none of it occured with his team

  • August 2, 1979 : The sudden death of Thurman Munson, the catcher for the N.Y. Yankees, in a Cessna Plane Crash. He was only 32 years old and I believe a Hall Of Fame career was ahead of him.

  • I will be 50 years old in 4 months. I am also a self-educated person in the history of Baseball, which is my hobby. (25+ years and going). In the 50 years that I have lived, has their EVER been a great, or at least GOOD Baseball Commissioner ?? Bud Selig is inept, corrupt that has bad overtones. Bowie Kuhn, oh, he was a real dandy wasn’t he ? And Bart Giamatti who is the real reason as to why Pete Rose is not in the Hall Of Fame and was commissioner for only 10 months after dropping dead from a massive heart attack as he imposed the rule that Pete Rose was banned from Baseball for life which still stands today so long as Selig is commissioner. Lets just say that I would not come within a 10 mile radius of any of his son’s movies (Paul Giamatti) and would love to someday have a boycott in front of a movie theatre with a movie starring Paul Giamatti !! Lets be reasonable here. Ty Cobb literally almost killed 3 men and landed many in the hospital with his form of sliding into a base and that was “spike aimed at the players mid-section. But, he has the numbers for the Hall Of Fame. Lets face it, he “successfully” stole home 54 times in his career (a record which will never be broken)…..gee, I wonder why ? So why is it that Pete Rose isn’t enshrined ? So he gambled. Not good, but certainly no way worse then Cobb (who by the way, knew he was dying of cancer and always had by his side 1). A fifth of Bourbon 2). $1,000,000 in negotiable bonds, and 3). A luger six shooter in his pocket. Pete Rose got 4256 hits. Lets do the math. A player would have to have 21 CONSECUTIVE seasons of getting 200 hits, with another 56 to spare. Had a .303 lifetime batting average and has 3 World Series Rings to his name. I’d like to see Mr. Selig be captured, be exiled to a one-half square mile uninhabited island in the South Pacific, drop him off and say “see ya Bud”. So in ending, Pete Rose not being in the Hall of Fame is not only a bad thing, its a damn travesty.

  • Regarding # 10, “The Pine Tar Incident”………Thank You once again, Billy Martin, may you be sipping your beer or Martini’s in hell right now !!!!!

  • Oh, And to Hall Of Famer, Mr George Brett (inducted with Robin Yount and Nolan Ryan in 1999). You did make one serious mistake. You went after Home Plate Umpire Tim McClelland instead of 5’7″, 130 lbs. weakling and coward Billy Martin instead. I would have made his head look like Don Zimmer’s head when Pedro Martinez got a hold of it during the ALCS and then some.

  • Doctor Marbles

    Ninety four mph curve ball lol i think that’s a wee bit exaggerated

  • So, my next question is. Juan Marichal is from the Dominican Republic. So what Latino Street Gang was he a member of before becoming a menace to Major League Baseball. Another example of almost killing someone and getting inducted into the Hall Of Fame like Cobb. He should have gone to jail for Assault and Battery at Riker’s Island in New York for what he did to John Roseboro !!!! Rose, he only gambled.

  • No. 5, “Black Sox Scandal”, Gee. No Shoeless Joe Jackson into the Hall Of Fame. 4th most proficient hitter in Baseball History with a career .356 batting average. Ty Cobb saying that he is the greatest hitter ever and Cobb even modeled his swing after him. But Joe ? You took a bribe. Shame on you. At least your resting in peace knowing that you did not stab any black man or had a mother who shot her own husband to death as she was having an affair with another man and that she shot her own husband. A Priest at that !! All because she thought it was an intruder. Lets put a different perspective on this topic. Look at Lawrence Taylor who played football fro the New York Giants and considered one of the best football players ever. How many crack / cocaine charges does he have and how many times has he gone to prison. Yet, he’s in the Football Hall Of Fame…………A BIG TIME……..GO FIGURE !!!!

    • Scott

      Jackson (and Pete Rose) directly affected the integrity of the game and it did almost irreparable damage to it. Taylor did nothing to hurt the game of football. THAT’S the difference.

      • @ Scott. Yes, it was irrefutable, was caught on video tape and admitted to the fact that he did gamble on Baseball. But someone’s dastardly deeds should be left OFF of the field and not ON the field. The bottom line is that Pete Rose is the man who had the most hits. 4256. Here’s an another example of a tragic incident concerning sports. Do you think that O.J. Simpson is a murderer ?? If you say no, then you have a lot of catching up to do. He definitely killed Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. But he’s in the Football Hall Of Fame isn’t he. A Hall Of Famer is inducted for what he did ON the field and not OFF of the field. A personal life, be it tragic as some are, are in the Hall Of Fame for their performances ON the field. Maybe this will clarify things up a little better. And of course Lawrence Taylor did nothing ON the gridiron to hurt the game. He did his “Eight-Balls” OFF the field. I do understand the difference. And my opinion was Jackson was a pawn on the chess board as far as I am concerned. Read the well known book called “Eight Men Out” by Eliot Asimof and the movie of the same name directed by John Sayles. You may learn something from it.

      • It affected their integrity as human beings and I would totally agree with that (after all, we are not perfect and have had brushes with making mistakes). But the achievements that they both accomplished (Jackson And Rose) on a BASEBALL FIELD had nothing to do with what they did in their private life which was gambling and accepting bribes. As far as I know under the rules of SABR (Society of American Baseball Research, which I am a member of) has no mention of a rule stating that they cant do anything outside of a baseball field. If they want to gamble, bribe, kill, injure, sell secrets to the Commies, blow cocaine up their nose, then that’s there own business. The ones that won’t make it into the Hall despite having the numbers are the ones who proved positive for Steroids. Look at the list of Players who got caught doing that, and don’t ya love that freaking Rafael Palmeiro. One of only four baseball players in the 500+ Home Run and 3000+ hit club (the other 3 are Eddie Murray, Willie Mays and Hank Aaron) and he vehemently lies to Congress and pointing fingers at people. Oh, now that’s real integrity now, isn’t it Scott. They don’t do that on a BASEBALL FIELD. If they have the numbers to qualify as to what they did playing baseball, then they should be in. Do you follow me now ???? Steroids is a performance enhancing drug. Who was the last player to hit 60 Homers in a season ???!!!

        • Scott

          Wrong. Betting on the game in which you play should automatically disqualify you from entering The Hall. What O.J. or L.T. did had NOTHING to do with hurting the integrity of the game they played, therefore they belong in their respective Hall of Fames. You can write another novel in response if you wish, but you’re wrong.

          • @ Scott. I never said anything about players from the main 4 Professional Leagues (Baseball, Football, Basketball or Hockey). If there in, there in. Simple as that. What I am trying to lobby for is players that deserve to be in their respective Hall Of Fame for what they accomplished when they were players. Pete Rose was a player he retired and returned to Baseball as a manager.But he got caught when he was a manager. Sure, L.T. is in the Hall for Football, but then he started blowing 8 balls of coke up his nose after he retired. As for the steroids scandal,that’s a whole different story because they were doing while being a PLAYER and not after retirement. That is equivalent to cheating. I can name right off the top of my head about 20 players (and big names at that) who wont get into their respective Hall, mostly Baseball player. But bottom line (and I can assure you) is that I am not the only one who agrees that Pete Rose deserves to be in the Hall. Let me pose this question for you. Has their ever been a halfway decent Baseball Commissioner in the history of the game ?? Look it up and you will then agree with me. Its kind of like the old adage of the Cat who got the Birdie and wasn’t blamed for it………Respectfully, Peter

  • @ Doctor Marbles. Koufax’s Rookie campaign was of course with the Brooklyn Dodgers. He had demon speed and no control, walked more batters then he struck out and lost more games then he won from 1955-1960. One day, late in the 1960 season, Dodger’s catcher Norm Sherry, who was just a well seasoned catcher, called time out and went to the mound and told Koufax “You don’t have to throw that hard to get men out at the plate”. Koufax took the advice and from 1961-1966 Koufax became the greatest pitcher ever (In my opinion) and even in the opinion of Casey Stengel. Stengel said “You can forget about that other guy (He was making reference to Rube Waddell) This Kid is the greatest pitcher I ever saw. So a 94 m.p.h. could very well be possible, but that is fast !! If you want to talk about speed and a curve ball, look up the stats of Mordecai “Three Finger” Brown, Hall Of Famer

  • One last thing about Sandy Koufax from 1961 – 1966. His Win-Loss record was 129-47 .732 pct., 1713 Strikeouts, 2.24 ERA in which 3 of those seasons were and ERA of under 2.00, 115 Complete Games, 35 Shutouts, 3 Cy Young Awards and in 1963 won both the Cy Young Award and N.L. MVP.

  • The information on the Ty Cobb incident is very incorrect. Cobb didn’t get suspended for the rest of the season. The fan wasn’t hospitalized, and the media ad his teammates defended Cobb’s actions, one teammate saying that “No man could have endured” the insults Cobb took. Cobb didn’t choke the wife of the groundskeeper, and there’s no evidence that he stabbed a man. He was no saint, but your entry here serves to further distort the record.

  • Your entry on the Black Sox Scandal paints Joe Jackson in a positive light, which is a gross injustice. Jackson’s play in the 1919 World Series was very suspicious. True, he had a high batting average for the Series, but he hit very poorly in the Sox losses and made three misplays in the field that were blatantly obvious as intentional. Contemporary accounts mentioned as much. Jackson accepted the money from the gamblers, and in fact he asked for more money. He was not innocent by a long stretch. Others of that era (including Ty Cobb and Tris Speaker) fixed games late in the regular season, it was actually common. But Jackson and the other White Sox broke the trust of the American people by throwing the Series.

  • Stan Stanlinson

    I think the introduction of the Designated Hitter and artificial turf were two great tragedies for baseball – not to mention domes or the horrible uniforms in the 70’s

  • @ Scott. Yeah, its because Steinbrenner was one of the wealthiest men in the United States and did a lot of philanthropy. But If I were to die tomorrow, I would barge my way through just to watch George and Billy Martin go at it again.

  • @ Stan Stanlinson. This is the best comment of anyone’s post on here. The designated Hitter rule. Now that really takes away from the integrity of the sport and also its only an American League thing. And Artificially turf. Have you ever slid on Artificial Turf. Its give you the same scrap on your skin like sliding on your knees on a basketball court. It hurts !! The great Tug McGraw of the Mets was once asked what he thought of Artificial Grass. He said, “I don’t know. I’ve never smoked it before !

  • But he single handedly saved Baseball after the 1919 Black Sox Scandal.

  • How about another Bill Veeck vehicle (disco night and 10 cent beer night as well). How about Eddie Gaedel back on August 19, 1951. Eddie was a little person (I know that using the word “midget” is politically incorrect). 3′ 7″ tall and weighed 65 lbs. for the St. Louis Browns and his uniform number was 1/8. He walked on 4 pitches and a pinch runner was then replaced him with a pinch runner. He never played again. He died tragically just after his 36th birthday. He was at a bowling alley and drinking heavily and was a very combative little man. He verbally confronted a few people with his lewd mouth and he left not knowing that the people were following him home. He was beaten to death and found in his bed by his mother. Let’s categorize this moment as not a “worst” moment, but an eye opening moment in baseball.

  • And I have one more in which I would like to ask concerning two players and would classify as a “stupid” moment and not a “worst” moment. 1). How in he*l did Phil Rizzuto get inducted into the Hall Of Fame. He only had 38 career home runs and played infield. and 2). What the he*l is Bill Mazeroski of the Pittsburgh Pirates doing as an inductee into the Hall O Fame. Is it because he hit one famous walk off Home Run in the 1960 World Series against the Yankees to end the series at 4-3 to win over them ? C’MON !!! Please, be it good or bad, I would like to have some answers and opinions of that.

  • @ bigskimarche. Speaking as a Red Sox fan, I am beginning to deal with your comment, eff redsux. A 9-0 lead a few days ago and the Yankees score 15 runs at the end to beat them ? Here’s my opinion. From 1959-1966 the Red Sux never played above .500 ball (W-L pct.) and for you Red Sox fans out there, its going to be a loooooooooong season for them. I am sure that Bobby Valentine has his kit of fake mustaches and a box filled with “Rayban” sunglasses. (Yes, back in 1999, he was ejected from a game. Went into the clubhouse and donned a fake mustache and a pair of sunglasses thinking that he was incognito, went back to the dugout and the umps caught him right away. He was suspended and fined). So why in the name of God did they hire him anyway. The players don’t like him as well as the fans. Again, a loooooooong season for the Sox this year.

  • August 18, 1967 : Tony Conigliaro getting beaned thus putting him out of action and almost cost him his life. The helmets they wore back then were just a helmet shaped like a baseball cap (Its hard to imagine that even before then they just wore their Baseball Caps when they went to the plate) That incident made the ear flap of a helmet mandatory for all players.

    • Don

      Peter, get a life. Seriously, you have far too much free time on your hands.

      • @ Don, Its because I am on disability. That explains as to why I have as you say, “I have too much free time on my hands” and loving it !! I have the following conditions : Diabetes Type 2, High Blood Pressure, Insomnia, Anxiety, Sleep Apnea, Depression, Neuropathy, Edema, Acid Reflux, Kidney problems or Renal Problems. The Big Toe of my Right Foot was amputated on May 8, 2011 due to my complications from Diabetes. I can walk but sometimes with imbalance problems but I literally cannot run or lift heavy objects. I am currently on the following daily medications. : Metformin, 2000 mg : Gabapentin, 900 mg : Omeprazole, 20 mg : Celexa : 10 mg : Glyburide, 10 mg : Lisinopril, 10 mg : Hydrochlorothiazide or more commonly known as HCT, 25 mg : Metoprolol, 100 mg : Diazepam (Valium) 20 mg : Klorcon, 10 mg : Furosemide, 20 mg. I have kept every print out of every prescribed medication that a pharmacy has given me with each type that I have been prescribed to take since August of 2006. The total number of prescribed meds that I have been prescribed since August of 2006 ?……..36 different types of medication !!! So my question to you is this. If you owned a business and needed to hire somebody for your business, would you be inclined to hire me with all of my medical problems. I would think that you would show me the door…………Oh, and by the way, I will continue to blog or post my opinion every single day. So get F*CKING used to it. Because nobody is going to hire me with what I have. So remove the boot you just put into your mouth with your lame comment and just ignore me. I have an old saying that goes : “Put your brain into gear before you put your mouth into overdrive”, because you, my friend have spoken to early about me before getting the facts straight about me and my health problems I have nothing to do, see a doctor for various reasons at least once a week. and collect disability plus a monthly stipend from the Military because I an a Proud NAVY veteran who protected not only your a*s, but the rest of the countries a*s by serving my country and doing what I was ordered to do. So do you now get my point NOW, Don you Bombastic Simpleton ???!!!

  • 10 cent beer night at Cleveland Memorial Stadium in 1974 would have made a worst moment for sure…

  • I like your list. I must say though that with Christy Matthewson Nolan Ryan comparison is you stated Nolan Ryan was only known of a 100 MPH fastball when in fact his curveball ranks number 7 all-time on the Bleacher Reports 10 Ten MLB curveballs. Ryan consisted threw his curveball in the low to mid nineties. He also developed a nasty change-up later in his lengthy career.

  • Greg

    Yes, Steinbrenner did have some differences with others, but to include him in the top 10 worst moments in baseball is just stupid. He wouldn’t even be in the top 50.

  • Wes

    I’m English and know nothing about baseball. Really enjoyed the list, and it clears up the Simpsons softball episode. I might watch ESPN now for the baseball as well as American football.

  • bengalpuss29

    Didn.t understand most of it, being british we don.t have baseball here hence the lack of knowledge.

  • Yondofan12

    Barry Bonds is old and has terrible knees. That is why the Giants did not re-sign him. He can’t move any more and unfortunately there is no Designated Hitter in the National League. I agree he may be hated in the rest of the country, but as a San Francisco Giants fan I can say that most of us still like the guy.

  • George Clooney

    Somehow Ryan struck out over 5000 batters and his approximately 2300 batters walked was 49% of the batters he faced? Might want to review that stat.

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  • justin

    whatever idiot wrote this list should learn simple arithmetic before he starts claiming that nolan ryan walked 49% of the batters he faced in his career. if he walked roughly half the number he struck out, that still computes to one third but are we assuming that every batter he ever retired was done so by strikeout? idiot.

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