Top 10 Great Underrated Female Singers
- Published February 9, 2008 - 255 Comments
This list is my tribute to underrated or lesser known great female vocalists. These are all women who are unlikely to make it to most people’s top ten lists and I really would like to give them some exposure if possible. I must confess that this list is a little self-indulgent as these are some of my favorite singers.
9. Émilie Simon
In May 2003, she released her debut album Émilie Simon. The electronic album was critically acclaimed and went on to become a commercial success. To promote her album, she did numerous live performances and TV appearances all over France. In 2004, she was rewarded with a Victoire de la musique in the ‘Electronic Album’ category for the album. This girl needs to get the acclaim she deserves outside of France!
8. Anika Moa
Anika Moa is well known in New Zealand but not outside. She was given a contract with Atlanta Records in New York, but returned to New Zealand to pursue her music in a more relaxed way. Her albums have all been very successful in her home country and she deserves a lot more international attention. The clip above is “Falling in love again” one of the best songs on her double platinum album “Thinking Room”. One of the coolest parts of the clip above is when Anika is standing outside a 4 Square – one of New Zealand’s oldest grocery store chains – well – cool for me for reasons of nostalgia!
7. Melanie Safka
Melanie had a number of hits ultimately faded from the a list of rock music. She continues to perform to this day but is only known to her most devoted fans from the past. When first released, the song above (Brand New Key) was banned by some radio stations due to the lyrics being interpreted as being sexual innuendo.
6. Julee Cruise
With a distinctive, airy voice, Cruise has recorded three albums, but is probably best known for the lead vocal on “Falling,” the theme song for the cult U.S. television series Twin Peaks. Until recently, she was a frequent collaborator with composer Angelo Badalamenti and film director David Lynch, who produced and wrote the lyrics for most of her songs.
5. Peaches
[WARNING: The clip above contains language that will almost certainly offend some readers] Peaches is not very well known outside of her own genre (electroclash) but she is an astonishingly talented woman. This track was featured in the movie Lost in Translation. Peaches’ music is preoccupied with genderchange identity, and she often plays with traditional notions of gender identity, gender roles, and gender presentation. Her lyrics and live shows self-consciously blur the distinction between male and female; she appears on the cover of her album Fatherfucker with a full beard.
4. Janis Ian
Janis Ian’s most successful single was “At Seventeen,” released in 1975, a bittersweet commentary on adolescent cruelty and teenage angst, as reflected upon from the maturity of adulthood. “At Seventeen” received acclaim from record buyers — it charted at #3 on the Billboard Hot 100 and #1 on the Adult Contemporary chart — and critics, as it won the 1975 Grammy for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance, beating out the likes of Linda Ronstadt, Olivia Newton-John and Helen Reddy. Janis is still performing regularly and recording – for a fee she will even travel to your home and give you a private concert. I have had a number of communications with Janis and she is a lovely lady with a great talent that needs to be more widespread. I recommend visiting Janis’ website and buying some of her music. Alternatively most of her albums are on iTunes – why not contribute some money to increasing her popularity!
3. Carolyne Mas
Carolyne Mas had a great career ahead of her. Unfortunately due to marketing decisions, her career was cut short. She has suffered a great deal in her life – being stabbed nine times in a break in at her home. It is a tragedy that this rising star of rock music had her career cut short by bad marketing decisions. This clip above was actually submitted to Youtube by Carolyne herself. Visit Carolyne’s website and download some great music!
2. Edie Brickell
Edie Brickell made some fame through her song “Goodtimes” which was included as a video clip in all copies of Windows 95 to demonstrate its new video abilities. The clip above was while she was with the New Bohemians before her solo career (she has since rejoined the group). I hear this song on the radio and fell in love with her voice instantly. Brickell is married to Paul Simon and they met while she was performing this song on Saturday Night Live.
1. Cass Elliot
Admittedly Cass Elliot was famous as part of the 60s group the Mamas and the Papas, but I have chosen to include her here because many younger readers won’t know who she is and many people don’t know that she had a solo career after the group split. In the clip above we see one of her great songs California Earthquake – we see her characteristic movement style and her truly astounding voice. What an icon! You may also be unaware that she played a part in the children’s movie Pufnstuf – she even has a large solo singing part in it. You can watch the clip here. Sadly, Cass Elliot (who I think could almost be considered the greatest female pop vocalist of the 20th century) died before her time at the age of 32 of a heart attack (1974).
1. Your Choice
You might have noticed that I only have 9 women on this list. I have spent the last five hours trying to think of a tenth and I can’t. Can you give my tenth lady? Tell me in the comments and I will complete the list!
Afterword
I think the talent of the women above really puts modern music to shame – all of the women above have achieved their greatness through vocal talent – not marketing or publicity. It would be great if the music industry were to return to those days.














February 9th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
FIRST!
Emmy THe Great is… uh… great.
February 9th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
Free Dominguez from Kidney Thieves has the most haunting voice I’ve ever heard Flyleaf is close but Free is the original
February 9th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Good to see Anika on there, not just a great talent but generaly great person from what ive been told
February 9th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
Also, Natasha Khan of Bat For Lashes. Check out “What’s A Girl To Do” on YouTube. Linky:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=n1wnOUH2jk8
February 9th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Ooh oh oh!!! Linnea from Those Dancing Days. Linky:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ILuNZYmAs5o
February 9th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Mindy Smith is my favorite. She is, in my opinion, very underrated.
http://www.myspace.com/mindysmith
February 9th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Eva Cassidy could make the list.
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February 9th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
great list! i love emilie simon! never heard of the others though except for Cass Elliot.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I’m so happy Peaches made this list.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
That Susan Tedeschi is underrated is is demonstrated by how well she sounds despite the crappy recording equipment used in this clip, and by the funky venue she’s toiling in.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
romerozombie: very bjork like video – I like it a lot! The second one is great too!
danielle: I love peaches! She is so unique!
February 9th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Linda Perry is underrated. People see her piercings and overlook the talent. She’s a singer, a songwriter, and a good producer.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Jane Olivor. Her interpretation of “Some Enchanted Evening” is breathtaking. I saw Melanie Safka twice at Massey Hall in Toronto back in the seventies. I still love her music. And I had one of Cass Elliott’s solo albums. It was great.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Check out the band “Freakwater”. Two great female singers that together are phenomenal.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Lisa Gerrard, check her on youtube, the best female singer ever
February 9th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
So glad that you put Peaches on the list. “Fuck the pain away”
My favorites are definitely. . .
Imogen Heap – I kept her cd in my player for close to a year. Can’t get enough
Kate Havnevik – Norwegian goddess. Check out her song New Day, so ethereal.
Anya Marina – Very unusual voice
Leona Naess – not much to say, just evokes a very cool vibe.
Feist – indie queen. She actually wrote her latest album while touring with Peaches
Greta from The Hush Sound – so bubbly and fun
Beth from Portishead – sings while chain smoking and still sounds amazing
Angela McCluskey from Telepopmusik – here voice gives me chills
February 9th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Patti smith maybe…
February 9th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Wow, that Peaches vid was flippin HORRIBLE!
February 9th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Nanci Griffith would probably make a list of women with the most beautiful eyes, but her singing talents are underrated.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
though known VERY well to the men and women of WWII and most french. In america, Edith Piaf has really died and almost no one of the new generation has any idea who she is. She was and is the voice of france especially in a time of trouble. Edith Piaf gets my vote
February 9th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
geat list though
February 9th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Allison Sudol from A Fine Frenzy, gets my vote. Her lyrics and voice are truly amazing.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
See if you can spot Schiesl in this old film clip. YouTube, what will these young whipersnappers think of next.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I’ve never even heard of any of these people. :/
February 9th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
goof_ball: that is why they are on this list
February 9th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
A fan gave a good tip. Here’s Lisa Gerrard
February 9th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Oh darn, the links in my other comment didn’t copy and paste correctly. I’m sorry. Here they are, properly now.
Music Box-
Samson-
Better-
February 9th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
No Janis Joplin?
February 9th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
How do you delete a post? I just realized the title was “underrated” female singers.
February 9th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Em: you don’t – but if you really want me to remove the comment you can ask me and I will
though your last comment made it clear that you added Janis by mistake
February 9th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Umm… Top 9?
February 9th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Em, in the battle of singers who sound like Janis Joplin, this woman lost, Genya Ravan
whttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQX8×5q2cKI
February 9th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Nm…
I did not notice the bit at the end at first.
Damn multi-tasking!
February 9th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Anne Previn-Ednaswap
Kirsty MacColl
February 9th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Genya Ravan’s link doesn’t work
February 9th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Thank you! And thank you for showing that America’s belief that female singers need to be skinny and blonde doesn’t necessarily mean talent!
February 9th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Edie Brickell, God I had totally forgotten about her. Usually not my type of music but she’s cool, I can’t resist her voice.
February 9th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I love Peaches and for number 1 i would have to say regina spektor
February 9th, 2008 at 4:48 pm
violettta villas “oczi cziornyje” (black eyes)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=c_aN9×1VgnY
Quote:
In her best years Violetta Villas was a mezzo-soprano whose voice had an extraordinary register and a very wide range of vocal color. It covered four octaves from the tenor middle D3 to the soprano E7. Villas’ best range was from C4 to C6. In her songs she showed a remarkable ability for naturally assimilative styles, and for eliciting a multiplicity of voices. Villas could perform at times as a tenor, alto, mezzo-soprano, and soprano, a unique attribute amongst singers of any gender, in the fields of both classical and popular music.
wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violetta_Villas
February 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
I absolutely HATE Peaches. A guy at my school sang it every day last year.. And her voice is so annoying. It makes my ears bleed.
February 9th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Kimya Dawson:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5bhnG4aqpY
Very under rated local From Durham NC, US. Her voice is just enchantingly Angsty. I wish I could make it to more of her shows.
February 9th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
i agree with ya me, spektor is way underrated, does katie melua count as being underrated
February 9th, 2008 at 5:05 pm
Yes yes Emmy the Great, I completely agree. She is stupidly talented.
And Kimya Dawson too, although I suspect Juno may go some way to correcting that.
And how Charlotte Hatherley isn’t a huge success is very confusing to me. Bastardo is a classic.
February 9th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Em..think i might have messed up some of your comments. some comments w/ links have to been approved before they show. might’ve deleted ‘em by mistake. so resubmit if you like.
i’m sorry.
February 9th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
aimee mann, but she might be too famous for this list. some of her songs for ‘magnolia’ were really good.
or Johnette Napolitano from concrete blonde. everybody knows from the movie pump up the volume one of my faves
February 9th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
ani difranco!
February 9th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
This is a Great list!
Excellent choices.
I had some singers in mind.
Beth Gibbbons, Portishead
Erika Winnerstrom, The Harteless Bastards. Must check them out.
February 9th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Jane Siberry!!!
All of her output is worth seeking out, but her 1988 album “The Walking” is a masterpiece. Here is the video of the title track.
February 9th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
Mac: Read her discography. Juno is Recent, She’s been Playing for years. Just because she’s got a few songs here and there doesn’t mean she’s Rated. How many other people here Know of her???
February 9th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Martina Topley-Bird
Oumou Sangare
February 9th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Horrible taste in music. Peaches appears to be a male and so should be removed from the list, or simply removed from the list for lack of real talent.
February 9th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
51. Lyric
as was stated in the 1st paragraph, its his choices. and as was encouraged in the paragraph following his choices…you’ve the option to post your own choices in comments. so if you want your taste in music judged, why not share your selections?
February 9th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Lyric: peaches likes to dress as a man but she is a woman and she creates her songs 100% alone – she is a masterful musician and deserves a place on this list!
February 9th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Beth Hart
Toni Childs
Amanada Marshall
Ashley Cleveland
Ellen Foley
Tobey Torres of Snake River Conspiracy
Tairrie B of My Ruin
Sophie B Hawkins
February 9th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
Cass Eliot was before my time but I’ve heard of her because one of her songs is played on Lost at a certain part
February 9th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
The Pierces is my pick
February 9th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Hi, Great List! I have a few highly underrated female singers to add:
Linda Perry (4 Non-Blondes – Listen to “Fill Me Up” After Hours
Johnette Napolitano (Concrete Blonde)
Sarah Jane Morris (Song: A Horse Named Janis Joplin)
Beth Hart (from Starsearch on TV) (Song: Skin, LA Song, Sky Full of Clover)
And last but definitely NOT least: Carrie Rodriguez – (Song: Keep Your Hat on Jenny – sung with Chip Taylor – Album: Red Dog Tracks
February 9th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
Beth Hart http://youtube.com/watch?v=SrZw8RToN2Y
Toni Childs http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fn-OcqIbHYc
Amanada Marshall http://youtube.com/watch?v=WB8m-y7exww&feature=related
Ashley Cleveland http://youtube.com/watch?v=oBhDJdeXS2U (this is a shitty live video but all I could find)
Ellen Foley http://youtube.com/watch?v=O7GGXT6StQU
Tobey Torres of Snake River Conspiracy http://youtube.com/watch?v=tEYL8nUjLCs or http://youtube.com/watch?v=OH3qrMnpYD0&feature=related
Tairrie B of My Ruin http://youtube.com/watch?v=8NArCvlFcbA or http://youtube.com/watch?v=OSVe2NHVhhs
Sophie B Hawkins http://youtube.com/watch?v=fVllKtvNHFs
Tracy Chapman http://youtube.com/watch?v=1xZEbcELgpQ
Cristina Scabbia of Lacuna Coil http://youtube.com/watch?v=ixxtnrWb17Y or http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lx58hXh4pVA
February 9th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
My favourite Melanie song is There’s A Chance (Peace Will Come)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ac68DdMmZc4&feature=related
February 9th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
52: Cyn
Here’s a few that blow away all but two on this list.
February 9th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
that one lady is pretty good, sorry i dont knwo her name, i fail
February 9th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
I was looking up Genya Ravan and I found this:
Stay With Me – Lorraine Ellison
I have never heard of this woman, and neither has limewire but she is incredible.
February 9th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Dolores O’Riordan- The Cranberries
February 9th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Despite the critical fame she garnished after 2006’s “Begin To Hope”, Regina Spektor is still not as recognized as she should be. In my firmest opinion, she is probably the greatest female songwriter of the past decade.
February 9th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
I haven’t heard “what I am” from Edie in sooo long, THANK YOU!
February 9th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
For some reason, I’ve recently been drawn to the anti-folk movement, and two particular singers that aren’t getting the attention they deserve (yet):
1.) Regina Spektor
2.) Nellie McKay
Not so much saying that they belong on this list, but if they were stocks, I’d sure invest in’em.
February 9th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
I really like Amy Lee, but she’s really famous, haha. I also vote for Ani DiFranco!! Not only is she a great singer, but she rocks the girl power, which is a huge appeal for a lot of her fans. =)
February 9th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
PS- What about umm…Amanda something, the woman in The Dresden Dolls? Yay or nay? I don’t know that vocally she’s mindblowing, but…I don’t really know much about music either. I just listen. =)
February 9th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
The woman from Dresden Dolls is Amanda Palmer. I was going to include her too but I have already mentioned so many.
February 9th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
Is Bif Naked famous? She is in Canada but then she is Canadian. She rocks.
February 9th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Palmer, yes!! I should have just used google, haha. She at least deserves mention, I think, she’s got a really neat thing going on with her eyebrows and she rocks the girl power too, which I just love.
February 9th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
I love the Jeep Song
February 9th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
i vote bjork.
February 9th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
It’s imperative that you correct the list to include Zooey Deschanel.
February 9th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
Another gem from the YouTube vaults. Sarah Vaughn wasn’t underrated in her day, everybody knew how terrific she was, but now days, a lot of people have forgotten or never knew.
February 9th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I love Janis Ian and Edie Brickell. I also wish Shawn Colvin got more recoginization, I like you’re choices
(:
February 9th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
Check out this Dinah Washington clip. Note the irony of having the most overrated American I can think of, introducing a legitimate candidate for most underrated singer.
February 9th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
Good idea Shawn Colvin.
February 10th, 2008 at 12:38 am
Dulce Pontes. She is from Portugal. This song is from the Primal Fear soundtrack. Cancao do Mar. Stopped me cold in the middle of the movie. spent two years trying to find someone to buy CDs for me in Portugal. (this was before Itunes)
this is closer to her “normal stuff”
February 10th, 2008 at 1:03 am
If you want always underrated, I’d have to say Susan Tedeschi is a good choice.
If we’re talking underrated this far after their death, then I’d have to go with Lady Day. It’s amazing how being under 30 and able to talk about Billie Holiday, people A) have no idea who you’re about [especially if they're of your own age,] or B) look at you like you’ve grown a 4th head.
February 10th, 2008 at 2:15 am
Hanne Hukkelberg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoCtonftiXA
February 10th, 2008 at 2:43 am
Natalie Merchant (10000 maniacs)
Tori Amos
Dido
Delores o’reardon (sp)? cranberries
February 10th, 2008 at 3:04 am
How about Merril Bainbridge? Technically she’s a one-hit wonder due to the mainstream success of her song “Mouth,” but honestly, I don’t think she ever got the attention that she deserved.
I’ve met a lot of people who can’t stand the song “Mouth” and so they refused to listen to any of her others songs, which is a damn shame. She had a lot of other material that didn’t even resemble the over-produced shit known as “Mouth.”
Really, she should’ve gone a lot further than she did career wise.
February 10th, 2008 at 3:27 am
I agree with jocsboss Tracey Chapman is wonderful, her voice is so unique and I just absolutely love it!!
And though she was pretty famous in her time you don’t really hear to much about Karen Carpenter, I have always loved The Carpenters, her voice is awesome!
February 10th, 2008 at 3:34 am
Wow there are some great choices here for the last item on the list! So many more than I expected in fact. This is gong to be a tough decision.
February 10th, 2008 at 4:02 am
Hey !! How come that list is so familiar ??
Carolyne Mas is one of my favourite performers! I’d also add Karla Bonoff and – though somewhat more famous, which might disqualify her from the list – Rita Coolidge.
February 10th, 2008 at 4:56 am
#17 Kevin: I kinda like Patti Smith too. I love one of her later live acoustic performance of Dancing Barefoot.
February 10th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Many english-singing ladies mentioned above are really great (Ani DiFranco, Martina Topley-Bird) but you probably know nothing about our Polish gem: Maria Peszek. Check her out here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=5tbJvybefPU
and the video itself is not bad. The name of the song she’s singing is “I’ve got no time for sex” in English.
February 10th, 2008 at 6:37 am
kimya dawson she did some of the songs from juno!she is just unbelieveable!
February 10th, 2008 at 6:53 am
heavybison: I love Patti Smith. Though you don’t hear much about her I don’t think that she is underrated, she’s just not mainstream or pop.
February 10th, 2008 at 6:55 am
What about Harriet Wheeler from The Sundays? I really like their version of “Wild Horses.”
February 10th, 2008 at 7:54 am
eva cassidy. she so deserved to be recognized.
February 10th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Regina Spektor is a fantastic artist! She overcame the life of poverty growing up as a Russian immigrant in the Bronx, and is now quite an accomplished recording artist. Although some of her music was briefly highlighted on VH1, she never really became famous.
February 10th, 2008 at 10:15 am
I was going to say Eva Cassidy, but she’s already been mentioned twice. Such a loss…she could and should have been *huge*.
Two relative unknowns that I love
Lili Haydn (amazing violinist and vocalist…puts on a hell of a show)
http://www.lilihaydn.com/flash/flash.htm
Sinead Lohan (last CD in 98, website not updated since 2000…but damn, she should have gone further)
February 10th, 2008 at 10:21 am
49. Crimanon – I do know Kimya Dawson, I’ve been a fan for years, all I meant was she might be getting some long-overdue recognition now seeing Juno’s been so successful. Wasn’t the soundtrack album number 1 in America? So a lot of people will have been exposed to her, and I’m sure they’ll start to seek out her older stuff. She’s always been critically well rated anyway.
February 10th, 2008 at 10:59 am
I have many many that I’d submit-
Jenny Lewis- http://www.jennylewis.com/
Emily Haines- http://www.emilyhaines.com/
Emiliana Torrini- http://www.emilianatorrini.com/
Beth Orton- http://www.bethorton.co.uk/
Cat Power- http://www.matadorrecords.com/cat_power/
Mindy Smith- http://www.mindysmith.net/
Neko Case- http://www.nekocase.com/music/
Sarah Harmer- http://www.sarahharmer.com/
Feist http://www.listentofeist.com/
Karen O from Yeah Yeah Yeah’s, bringing back TRUE rocker girl! She’s also done some colabo’s with Squeak E. Clean…
http://site.yeahyeahyeahs.com/
What about Patti Smith? http://www.pattismith.net/
She’s a friggin’ institution and barely anyone knows her these days!
February 10th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Just a few:
Butterfly Boucher, Cat Power, Charlotte Gainsbourg, Imogen Heap, Heather Nova, Jem,Kate Havnevik, Lamb, Lene Marlin, Rosie Thomas, Sarash Blasko, Sarah Fimm, Sia, Thea Gilmore, and Tina Dico
February 10th, 2008 at 11:02 am
I don’t need for you to give me a choice. You already have mine. Cass Elliot was the greatest singer of all time, male or female, appreciated or not. Not to mention that dumb “choking on a ham sandwich” story was complete rooster poop. Never happened. Uhh, Janis Ian? Are you FU#*ING KIDDING ME? Maybe you s/have a list of “top ten songs that teach you how to feel sorry for yourself.” You could count “At Seventeen” four or five times.
February 10th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Heh…reminds me of the old joke : if Mama Cass and Karen Carpenter had shared that sandwich…they’d both still be alive
February 10th, 2008 at 11:19 am
DEFINATELY Greta Salpeter.
Extremely under-rated. From the band “The Hush Sound”
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9PLcWnqguek
February 10th, 2008 at 11:22 am
OMG kiwiboi: That is funny, really bad but really funny LOL!!!
I like your sense of humor too LOL you and JFrater must be like brothers or something LMAO!!!
February 10th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Excellent List!
Kiwiboi; ha ha, and I feel guilty for laughing
Kudos to whomever mentioned Ellen Foley. And Tracy Chapman.
jfrater; I think I could make an argument for Janis Joplin (whom I prefer) as more influential than Mama Cass. Although Janis Joplin maybe wasn’t singing Pop?
February 10th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Thought of another one I love; Maria Mckee. She had a big hit with Show Me Heaven, from the Days of Thunder soundtrack. This is a different song.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=42T9U2mO74Q
This is Show Me Heaven.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=42T9U2mO74Q
Warning!!!! This video has clips of Tom Cruise so you may want to flatten your browser, or open another tab, while listening.
February 10th, 2008 at 11:45 am
stormy617 : heh
February 10th, 2008 at 11:46 am
If this is a double post it is not my fault. I posted and it doesn’t show up.
Another artist I thought of is Maria McKee. She had a big hit with Show Me Heaven from the Days of Thunder soundtrack. This is it. WARNING!!! This video has Tom Cruise in it. You may want to flatten your browser or open a new tab while listening.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7mpIBfXwJnk
February 10th, 2008 at 11:49 am
94 Satori: Hardly anybody knows of Patti Smith cause she basically retired for 15 years to raise her kids.
February 10th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Awesome list, that song by Edie Brickell is awesome, I remember loving it when I was little and had completely forgotten about it til now!
Peaches is absolutely awesome and is crazyyyy live!
As for my own choice, I would nominate Tracy Chapman and Imogen Heap I think! OoOO and Jenny Lewis is gorgeous and awesome!
February 10th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Hey..Anika Moa is a lefty guitar player – like me
Lefties rule !!
February 10th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
Lisa Vroman and Ruthie Henshall are pretty awesome; don’t know if you’re going for the popular or showtunes end of it all though.
February 10th, 2008 at 12:18 pm
just went through the comments and downloaded all I didn’t know. A few of my own
The Puppini sisters
The pipettes
Soko (amazing, french)
February 10th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
pennyhrps – good for you. Firstly, listen to Carolyne Mas – Stillsane; you won’t regret it !!
February 10th, 2008 at 12:55 pm
love Anika Moa hehe
February 10th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Some more: Eli Emily, Skye, and Kristin Hersh.
February 10th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
60. Lyric
OMFG! u can not b serious..LOL
well that certainly explains a lot. you have no taste in music.
J’s list is classy and in some cases, classic. yours? pop culture fluff. does not classify as music. simply noise.
February 10th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
OMG i am so excited that Edie Breckell is on the list. She is amazing. I have had her debut CD with the New Bohemians forever. I love her. My husband even likes her.
February 10th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Cyn,
Obviously Lyric is kidding. Those choices were obviously chosen for the ridiculous factor. I have to agree with him though. The last two on the list are good. The others not some much…I am not insulting you obviously music choice is subjective. But I am wondering if there is a problem with my sound on my computer with all of the Peach fanatics. I don’t really understand how you can say that peaches is classy, but to each his own right?
February 10th, 2008 at 2:44 pm
I would like to mention a singer named Eivør Pálsdóttir from the Faroe Islands She´s is an amazing singer making a name for erself in Scandinavia and Europe. Please check out the video. Amazing voice.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=NOIpPCIld64&feature=related
February 10th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
114 Cyn: Hey, be nice. We already have enough verbally abusive people that show up here. I would rather people listen to pop music than no music. I personally believe that artists like Juliet and the Licks (Lyric’s #4 pick) contribute more to society than country music, which should be outlawed. I see that some of the singers that are suggested are country, and they do have beautiful voices and they are underrated. I just wish they had been exposed to a different type of music. This doesn’t mean that anybody that likes country or pop has no taste, they just have a different opinion of what they like to listen to, along with hundreds of millions of other people. And every genre will have better and worse artists, even classical music. Some the artists on this list are only considered underrated because they have not achieved huge commercial success, when in fact they are highly regarded by the limited audience that they themselves choose to appeal to.
February 10th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
116. pantsonfire -
i certainly hope it was a joke..as was my response.
118. jocsboss
me…abusive? LOL
you been talking to J? i’ve not an abusive bone in my body.
musical taste is highly subjective and hopefully people ‘get’ that.
February 10th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
teri: love your taste in female vocalists (see comment 16)
Bassmusic: I thought I was the only one
February 10th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Liz Fraser of the Cocteau Twins
February 10th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
Dana Fuchs:
February 10th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Sorry:
Link to Dana Fuchs:
February 10th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Garrison Starr
Beth Ditto from “The Gossip”
February 10th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Kate Bush, Kate Bush, Kate Bush, Kate Bush, Kate Bush, and did I mention Kate Bush? She has never really gotten the credit she deserves. Before Tori Amos or Enya there was Kate Bush
February 10th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Adele: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nL49yZNE4yk
February 10th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
123 Sarah: Where we you earlier? Holding out on us? I have never heard of Dana Fuchs before. I love her voice. I love her …uh…..lungs. Yeah, that would be it.
Check out Amanda Marshall and Sophie B Hawkins (comment 58 for links). I think that you will like them too.
February 10th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
Imogen Heap!!! She’s completely original and talented!
February 10th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
K’s Choice is probably a lot more popular in Europe, in America Sarah Bettens is underrated,
February 11th, 2008 at 12:15 am
Mary Cutrufello is very underrated! Honky tonk singing, Yale educated black chick w/dreads who can tear up a Stratocaster!
I second Garrison Starr! Saw her a few years back, when she was out with Steve Earle. Venue sucked but they made the best of it.
February 11th, 2008 at 12:35 am
Imogen Heap is most definitely original and talented, but would not be considered underrated. She has had a lot of commercial success.
There is this singer named Hannah that I know- undiscovered, yet amazing…haha!
February 11th, 2008 at 12:37 am
There is this singer named Hannah who is undiscovered, yet amazing…haha!
February 11th, 2008 at 4:06 am
ani difranco is over-rated.
youtube a live performance of zero7 : home.
there’s your number 10.
February 11th, 2008 at 5:09 am
Also, there is awesome Gry Bagxien :
February 11th, 2008 at 5:15 am
132 Hannah: hahahahahaha
February 11th, 2008 at 5:23 am
I agree with Big Skye: Kate Bush X 3 at least. However — it seems everyone in the world has forgotten Martha Davis of Martha and the Motels. One or two great albums at the end of the 80s, one solo album, then gone. Victim of poor marketing and fickle fan base, but a terrific singer.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:57 am
Kate Bush! This should be a non issue!
February 11th, 2008 at 8:58 am
I love Sophie B Hawkins!
Peaches is from Canada.. that’s awesome that she is on this list!
February 11th, 2008 at 9:01 am
I might be the only person here who think this but…
Amy Winehouse.
Seriously. No….seriously. Just listen to a track or two on Pandora. Awesome voice, super smoky, bluesy, sexy, etc. She may be an insane, whacked-out crackhead but her voice is unquestioningly amazing.
Also, what about Joni Mitchell? She has an amazing range of music, can do anything from pop to blues to jazz, and can ROCK it. Her voice is simply pristine.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Emiliana Torini.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:08 am
Also #139, all of the one’s you put are not underrated women, they are highly recognized and celebrated (Grammy’s anyone?).
February 11th, 2008 at 9:08 am
SlickWilly – Amy Winehouse is hardly under-rated (per the point of the list); after all, she was just nominated for a Grammy and has had more than one major hit albums. Like you, I think she is great!
Also, Joni Mitchell…under-rated ? I don’t think so. Whilst I haven’t heard much of her lately, she is one of the all-time great female artists. Besides, I think she won a Lifetime Achievement Award (Grammy). Again…a truly great artist who doesn’t (IMHO) fit the requirements of this list.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:29 am
Fair enough, but most people who don’t pay attention to music have never even heard of Joni Mitchell. I think that is underrated in my book, particularly when these same people think that “best female artist” stops with Madonna or Christina Aguilera.
As far as Amy Winehouse goes, NONE of my friends will even give her the time of day. I am constantly fighting a losing battle with them over how great she actually is. Does someone have to be talented and dismissed by music connoisseurs to be underrated, or talented and dismissed by the general public? IMO it is the latter, so I think that Joni Mitchell would definately qualify. A case could be made for Amy Winehouse as well. They fit the requirements of the list, so long as your semantics are flexible.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Beth Orton and Goldfrapp, I’d say.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:37 am
SlickWilly: I like Joni Mitchell too!
February 11th, 2008 at 9:39 am
I dig Sia Furler from Zero 7
I think a problem with Amy Winehouse is her life is a slow motion train wreck.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:39 am
SlickWilly:
C’mon. Joni Mitchell is NOT under-rated. Dude, just because there’s a lot of ignorant people around who don’t know history, or music, or music-history—and haven’t heard of Joni Mitchell (assuming that’s true)—that doesn’t mean she’s forgotten or “under-rated.” (I mean, I agree totally with kiwiboi on this—Joni is *known* as the prototype female singer-songwriter). She’s cited by dozens of her successors as their main influence. Trust me, where it counts, Joni is known and remembered.
After all, who cares what people “who don’t pay attention to music” think anyway?
February 11th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Randall:
Eh. My original argument still stands. If you went out into the general public with a picture of Joni, or even just dropped her name to anyone who would listen, what percentage of the average population do you think would know who Joni Mitchell is?
I’m well aware of how influential she was….but being influential to other musicians does not (in my mind) equate with getting fame proportional to one’s talent. We can sit here and argue this point all day, but we both are right, depending on how you interpret the term “underrated.”
February 11th, 2008 at 9:55 am
On a less controversial note, Flora Purim would definately qualify as underrated, no matter what your standards of the term may be.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:11 am
SlickWilly:
Sorry, but where the hell do you live and what kind of population do you have around you where you could ask this question to people (i.e., “do you know who Joni Mitchell is?) and think it would confidently elicit a response to support your view? (and of course that’s rhetorical, you don’t need to tell me where you live). I mean, sure… if you ask a bunch of kids, no—they’re not gonna know Joni Mitchell. But any reasonably educated/well-informed adult is PROBABLY gonna know her name, at least, yes.
“what percentage of the average population do you think would know who Joni Mitchell is?”
so my answer, seriously, is at least 60 – 70%.
And sure, easy to say it all comes down to a point where we could both be right—but then you tell me, for heaven’s sake, what “underrated” MEANS then, in this context. Joni Mitchell was literally the original, the mold, for this type of solo female singer/songwriter. Her name is kicked around in circles of all kinds as the leading figure of this type. And she had several big hits back in the 60s. Good lord, that ain’t “underrated” by anyone’s definition.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Susan Tedeschi and Patty Griffin.
Loves.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Randall:
My definition of underrated: “Does someone have to be talented and dismissed by music connoisseurs to be underrated, or talented and dismissed by the general public? IMO it is the latter, so I think that Joni Mitchell would definately qualify.”
And apparently I live somewhere where people are indifferent to/ignorant of Joni Mitchell. Sad story, really, but you might be surprised how quote-unquote “college towns” are actually a hotbed of ignorance and superficiality. My argument still stands: I believe Joni Mitchell is underrated. Perhaps not as underrated as the names on this list, but underrated just the same.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:49 am
amazingly enough I agree with Randall on this one, unless you’re asking some totally clueless teenagers (or younger) most people would know who Joni Mitchell is and her importance. Which would not fit to your ” dismissed by the general public”. Also, general public would not be limited to your local college town only.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:51 am
SlickWilly:
Again though… how the hell do you say that Joni Mitchell has been “dismissed” by the general public?
I think you’re confusing “dismissal” and being underrated with simply “fading into the past” or whatever you want to call it. Joni was hugely known and revered in the 60s. That was a LONG time ago. She was well-known in the 70s. Again… LONG time ago. She did some stuff in the 80s and then took years off from recording. She’s just back now. But that would be like saying… oh, I don’t know… pick some similar name from the past… let’s say Art Garfunkel. It would be like saying Art Garfunkel is underrated because HE hasn’t done anything to get people’s notice in around thirty years. Silly. Art Garfunkel is passe, he hasn’t had a hit since the 70s… but historically, he’s not “underrated.”
And I too live in a college town. Ignorance ain’t a major commodity here. Maybe it’s the quality of colleges that make the difference then. Ha ha.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Hannah: I think that Imogen Heap fits the profile for underrated perfectly. She has had some commercial success, but she is far from mainstream and although she was nominated for a Grammy she was overlooked. She had it in the bag and because she’s underrated she lost it. I think that meets the criteria
February 11th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Randall:
You might be right. I’m not an old fogey, so I wouldn’t know what things were like in the 60’s.
Regardless, to those of us that ARN’T over (or approaching) 40, Joni Mitchell is not a name you hear tossed about too often in layperson circles, at least not around here. Are you saying that an artist who wasn’t underrated in her/his own generation can’t be considered underrated amongst those of a different generation 30 years later?
Maybe the college in the town you live in is just ripe with geniuses and prodigies-of-tomorrow, but the major state college in my town will take just about anyone these days. Just about anyone with money anyway. To qualify, you won’t see a lot of poor ignoramus’s (ignoramie?) here….just a lot of decently intelligent people with a little money, a small subsection of highly intelligent people with varying SEC status, and A LOT of rich dumb people. Not too many poor fools.
February 11th, 2008 at 11:13 am
People can gang up on me all they want…that’s fine.
I still think I have a valid point. My mommy thinks so too. And that’s all that really matters in this world.
Can I at least get some love for Flora Purim?
February 11th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
Teresa Salgueiro, from Madredeus. The voice of the angels.
February 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
SlickWilly:
“I’m not an old fogey, so I wouldn’t know what things were like in the 60’s”
Ha ha. Cute. I question whether you know what things are like NOW, Slick.
(Aside to the reader: I kid the Slick. But you know, I used to feel sad, sometimes, that I was born in 1965, because in calculating my likely lifespan, I knew I wasn’t likely to see the wondrous future world of flying cars and household robots. I’d think… how cool to have been born, instead, in 1995, in my daughters’ generation, so I’d be likely to see the entire 21st century, and yet have a connection, via my parents, to the 20th. Sometimes I still feel that way, because I’m a futurism nut. But most of the time, these days, I tend to think it’s a blessing. Because younger people these days seem to have utterly no clue. They seem to have no concept of how IMMENSELY our society and culture have changed, how much a breaking point the 60s were, between the paradigm of pre-60s and post-60s. I was only a runt at the time, but I had older brothers and an older sister and I managed to see it and experience it partly through them. And I was peculiarly aware of my world-surroundings too… probably part of my genius nature. So I feel kind of benighted, that I sort of knew both worlds. But really I think there was nothing special about me. My generation was the last one that didn’t *grow up* from childhood with computers, iPods, cell phones, and a society of opennness and free expression. All we had was TV (and for the most part only broadcast TV, not even cable) the radio, and hard-wired telephones and record players. Maybe fewer distractions meant we paid more attention to the world and the immediate past. If kids these days are ignorant of the world and what came in it only a few years before them, maybe we can blame it on all the CRAP they’re loaded down with, which doesn’t afford them the time to check out *older* things or to just pick up a BOOK now and then. End of rant).
“Are you saying that an artist who wasn’t underrated in her/his own generation can’t be considered underrated amongst those of a different generation 30 years later?”
YES. I am exactly saying that, Slick. That is NOT “underrated.” That’s “lost.” (or at best “left behind”). Ella Fitzgerald is NOT “UNDER-FREAKIN’-RATED.” She is not listened to as much anymore because her form and style do not interest the youths. A drop in popularity over a generation or two (or three or four) IS NOT THE SAME as being “underrated.”
Sheesh. You’re not a dumb guy. Why is this concept so difficult for you?
“Maybe the college in the town you live in is just ripe with geniuses and prodigies-of-tomorrow…”
In fact it is. We’re all very proud of it. It makes a lot of top 10 lists for great towns, using various criteria.
February 11th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Candace Night of Blackmore’s Night is an outstanding singer whom many people do not seem to recognize. She has been with Richie Blackmore’s projects for some time, but only joined the forefront with this current effort. Call the style neo-renaissance, it’s signigicant step away from Blackmore’s other work. Youtube “Storm” and give it 2 minutes 15 seconds for a sample. (Sorry, no URL, blocked at work.)
February 11th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Randall:
You know, of course, that I’m kidding about the “old fogey” statement. I do happen to feel I have a good grasp on the way things are now, but again, I’m of a younger generation and it is difficult for those of us who haven’t been around to experience the way things used to be to have a full perspective on the way things are now. You can’t fault me for being a product of my generation. Your parent’s generation said the same thing about your generation too, so don’t think that none of us has a clue; it would be a mistake to lump us all together like that. You certainly had a clue when you were my age, or at least you thought you did (I don’t know whether you did or not, but I’m betting you did). The point I’m illustrating is exactly the point you just made: a lot, not all, but a lot of people of my generation either don’t know who Joni Mitchell is, have heard of her but don’t realize her talent or influence, or write her off as a has-been.
Randall, I do grasp the concept in the point you are making, even though you may not think so. The question here is a question of semantics. If a talented artist (or talented anything for that matter) does not receive the recognition as often as they deserve, I consider that underrated. I can’t tell you how many times I have mentioned Joni Mitchell in a conversation about music only to be met with blank stares. My experience in the matter tells me that nowadays, Joni Mitchell is underrated, particularly by those people who claim to love music and haven’t taken the time or made the effort to broaden their horizons.
Perhaps you could share with me how *you* interpret “underrated” and that might resolve a couple of discrepancies in my opinion.
February 11th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
“Your parent’s generation said the same thing about your generation too, so don’t think that none of us has a clue; it would be a mistake to lump us all together like that.”
Nah, in fact they didn’t. My parents’ generation were in fact grateful that we weren’t freakin’ hippies.
Goddamn hippies.
BUT…. my parents’ generation didn’t understand the spiked, purple hair and safety pins and Mohawks and whatnot.
They thought it was cute, though, when we dressed up in zootsuits.
February 11th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
Slick:
“…a lot, not all, but a lot of people of my generation either don’t know who Joni Mitchell is, have heard of her but don’t realize her talent or influence, or write her off as a has-been.”
Right, I’m sure. But what I’m saying is, *that’s not the same as being underrated.*
The flips, somersaults, ups and downs of generational tastes do NOT equal underratement.
Thas’all, Saul.
February 11th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Hahaha….yeah, can’t say I’m fond of hippies, either. Not to say I hate them. I don’t feel any differently about them than those people with the spiked, purple hair and safety pin nose rings; its all your own bag, man, live and let live. BUT, speaking from experience, the punk crowd tends to be a little more hygenic and smell a little bit better than hippies. It’s not the ethos that offends me….its the B.O.
I actually gagged and dry-heaved at one music festival I went to from the overpowering stench of dirty human bodies. Gross.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Slick:
“My experience in the matter tells me that nowadays, Joni Mitchell is underrated, particularly by those people who claim to love music and haven’t taken the time or made the effort to broaden their horizons.”
Well then sorry, Slick, but such people in fact DO NOT “love music” regardless of their claim to the contrary. Music lovers are people who study it, are aware of it–not only of what it immediately offers but what it has offered in the past. And if they *haven’t* taken the time or made the effort to broaden their horizons… *then in fact their opinions do not matter.*
Again you’re mistaking popularity, in essence, for the value an artist has to those who truly appreciate art. Joni Mitchell ain’t popular anymore. Whoop-dee-doo. Neither do the Beatles crack the top 10 anymore. Are *they* underrated? Or take a less silly example…. Paul Simon hasn’t had a single on the charts in over a couple decades, I think. Doubtless few young people or musical morons therefore know who he is. Is Paul Simon therefore now to be considered “underrated?”
No… “devalued” at worst, perhaps.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Randall:
“Well then sorry, Slick, but such people in fact DO NOT “love music” regardless of their claim to the contrary. Music lovers are people who study it, are aware of it–not only of what it immediately offers but what it has offered in the past. And if they *haven’t* taken the time or made the effort to broaden their horizons… *then in fact their opinions do not matter.*”
……..Jeez, Randall, take it easy. I know all of this.
You’ve made your point, already. I’ve made mine. You think I’m wrong….I’m fine with that. I’ve already explained what I mean when I use the term “underrated.” By my definition, what I’m saying is true. You’re consideration of “underrated” seems to designate that only someone who is dismissed by art conneseiurs can be considered “underrated.” Mine designates, instead, being dismissed by the general public.
I understand what you are saying. You are telling me that the only reason people today don’t grasp Joni Mitchell is because her style doesn’t attract the attentions of jaded younger listeners, which makes her unpopular now, but not underrated. I’m saying that if someone is not recognized for their talent and influence, then they are underrated. My experience tells me that Joni Mitchell does not get the recognition she deserves from the average “music fan” of today. *I consider that underrated.*
If you’re trying to tell me my definition of underrated is wrong, then I’m sorry but we’ll have to agree to disagree. Language is a subjective thing, different people have different specific and general definitions of some words, and “underrated” is no exception.
“Neither do the Beatles crack the top 10 anymore. Are *they* underrated? Or take a less silly example…. Paul Simon hasn’t had a single on the charts in over a couple decades, I think. Doubtless few young people or musical morons therefore know who he is. Is Paul Simon therefore now to be considered “underrated?” ”
The Beatles…no, not underrated. A case could be made for *overrated* (simply because so many people like the beatles and so many others hop on the band wagon because it’s cool to like the beatles) but, no, not underrated. By my definition, yes, Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel both would be underrated. Not by everyone, but by many (the same people, in fact, that would probably underrate Joni Mitchell.)
Fact of the matter is….what I’m getting down to is this: Joni Mitchell is great. Absolutely great. And it burns me up when some of the people I talk to either hate on her or refuse to even acknowledge her existence. We can argue semantics till we’re blue in the face, it doesn’t change my position.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Slick:
Your problem is in dismissing the opinions of those who know and appreciate art when placed against popular opinion. Or valuing the opinions of the former at a lower level than those of the latter. In this, you’re wrong. What matters is the opinion of people who *know* and who have opened themselves up to knowing, and investigating. *Popular* opinion is ephemeral and ethereal and always has been and always will be.
So no… Paul Simon is not underrated today, nor is Joni Mitchell. They are simply no longer popular.
Popularity is a chimera. It doesn’t matter in regards to judging an artist’s value, except in the sense that we might say that a truly good or great artist’s work WILL survive the ups and downs of popularity in the LONG run. None of the great giants of literature, of the past, crack the bestseller lists any longer (if they ever did). That does not mean they’re now underrated or undervalued. Sure, you might take it as a SIGN that they are, but the fact is that the vast bulk of the populace from one generation to another don’t know *what the hell* is good and what is crap. So we don’t listen to them except in the moment–what sells today. What matters is what is memorable and still considered good or great LATER.
Joni Mitchell is well remembered or well-considered and respected by those, today, whose opinions MATTER in these things. Yes, I agree with you that it’s SAD that more people don’t know such artists because those people are too stupid to investigate. But that doesn’t make her underrated. It simply means that, as always, successive generations of the great populace are ignorant of art. They always have been and always will be.
Burns me up too when dolts don’t know the great works and artists of the past, and are apparently unwilling to learn. But that’s the way it works. Always has. What matters is the core of people who do care.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
Randall:
Very well, you believe I’m wrong. If you feel slighted because you think that I’m putting your opinion on the same level as the ignorant, that was not my intention. I would still say that, if Joe Blow down the street comes along and tells me “Joni Mitchell sucks,” I would say that is a clear case of undervaluing her legacy. Being ignorant of the law doesn’t make it okay for you to break it. I think the same way works with anything else. Just because a person hasn’t taken the time to research and listen to a particular artist doesn’t mean they arn’t capable of underassessing that artist’s talent and influence.
I don’t feel like this debate is going anywhere. I’m *not* saying that *you* are underrating Joni Mitchel or Paul Simon. I *am* saying that there are other people who do, and I have the unfortunate displeasure of dealing with these fools on a semi-regular basis.
February 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
A long time ago, I think in the 70’s I heard a lady by the name of Karen Alan (I think) and was captivated. I have not heard her since. Does anyone else remember her with the same feeling? Does anyone know where I could listen to her to see if I feel the same way now?
February 11th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Now that Randall and Slick are finished, I’m Posting this again.
Candace Night of Blackmore’s Night is an outstanding singer whom many people do not seem to recognize. She has been with Richie Blackmore’s projects for some time, but only joined the forefront with this current effort. Call the style neo-renaissance, it’s signigicant step away from Blackmore’s other work. Youtube “Storm” and give it 2 minutes 15 seconds for a sample. (Sorry, no URL, blocked at work.)
February 12th, 2008 at 12:00 am
Thank you,I truly forgot how much I loved Mama Cass….
February 12th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Slick:
I don’t know where you got the whacky idea that *I* felt slighted by what you were saying…. or that you were putting my opinion on the level of the ignorant. I KNOW my opinions are worth more than that, I wouldn’t fret over YOU saying otherwise–and I never thought for a moment that you DID say otherwise.
ALL I was saying, Slick, is that you’re lending too much credence and weight to the opinions of the masses. Screw ‘em. Their artistic opinions are near-worthless. Your argument is that Joni Mitchell is underrated because the kids and yahoos don’t know her. Whereas to me (and other people who’ve chimed in) this argument of yours makes no sense. We wouldn’t EXPECT the kids and idiots to have heard of her or be interested in her. BUT THEIR OPINION DOESN’T MATTER. They won’t have heard of Cezanne or Edith Piaf or St. Saens either… do we say that THOSE artists are “underrated?” No, schmuck… we say that the masses are ignorant of art and are happy with the eye-candy and other shiny objects that they are given, because much of the time that’s all they want.
Herbie Hancock just won the freakin’ GRAMMY for a CD that is a JONI MITCHELL TRIBUTE. That ain’t “overrated.” She’s got the respect and admiration of people who KNOW music. And people who KNOW music are the ones whose opinions matter when we are talking ABOUT music.
I think, Slick, that you are simply loathe to admit you said a very silly thing.
February 12th, 2008 at 8:20 am
Joni Mitchell? Wasn’t she the girlfriend of David Crosby at one time?
What was the attraction, all of the bong resin in his beard? Or maybe the cheeseburger remnants on his filthy hippy tie-dye shirt?
February 12th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Randall:
Haha…okay, whatever, Randall.
I think you are simply loathe to admit that you always feel you have to be right.
February 12th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
Has anyone mentioned LIZ PHAIR yet? I think she’s right up there and Kate Bush, DAMN RIGHT she’s an overlooked female artist-an amazing one at that!
As far as Janis Joplin or Joni Mitchel, while yes, I definitely agree that these are two very talented female musicians they’ve been extremely credited and not underrated in the least. The list’s focus is on UNDERRATED females.
JOCSBOSS-Patti Smith has influenced copius amounts of artists young and old for decades, regardless of her sabbatical from the music scene-which in my mind qualifies as underrated…it’s like saying that just because the Pistols only put out one album, they weren’t one of the pioneers of Punk…please!
American Heritage Dictionary – Cite This Source – Share This un·der·rate (ŭn’dər-rāt’) Pronunciation Key
tr.v. un·der·rat·ed, un·der·rat·ing, un·der·rates
To rate too low; underestimate.
February 12th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
as some have mentioned before, EVA CASSIDY is definitly underrated, and really did not garner any fame until years after her death. Listen to her rendition of Time After Time.
February 12th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
SlickWilly:
I argue with academics nearly every day. You gotta be tough. But I still say you’re just loathe to admit you said a silly thing.
February 12th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
satori:
THANK YOU.
oh…. and I kinda think Liz Phair is partly responsible for her being underrated by others. I love Liz, been a fan for years… but she seems to have tried too hard the last few years. Maybe that’s just me, I dunno.
I agree about Kate Bush, though when I was in college, she was kinda big.
February 12th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Randall:
This is the last I’m going to say on the matter. I don’t think what I said was silly. Otherwise I wouldn’t have said it. It’s simply a difference of perspective. You might feel that mine is mistaken, that’s okay. I’m not loathe to admit anything. If I’m wrong, let me be wrong. I don’t feel I am, so if you’re goal is to try to convince me of that, then you will fail.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
175 Satori: I agree with you, in the public eye, considering her influence and talent, Patti Smith is sorely underrated. But like I said in post 118 “Some the artists on this list are only considered underrated because they have not achieved huge commercial success, when in fact they are highly regarded by the limited audience that they themselves choose to appeal to.” Edie Brickell, Joni Mitchell and Kate Bush all fit into the definition of underrated, along with Patti Smith, if you compare their abilities to commercial success or popularity. If you want to judge them based on the opinions of their peers, sophisticated listeners and other music experts, then none of these artists is underrated.
The opening paragraph of this list says “These are all women who are unlikely to make it to most people’s top ten lists…”. Based on this criteria, assuming that “most people” means the public at large, all four of these women should be on this list, Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Edie Brickell and Kate Bush, because none of them have the recognition that they deserve. They should be as well known as the Sex Pistols, Pavorotti, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
ARETHA FRANKLIN
shes not underRATED per se but shes more underappreciated
February 12th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
i have heard of peaches though i am not a fan of her work
February 13th, 2008 at 6:02 am
If it were me, I’d add Basia or Jane Child. Both women were more or less 1 hit wonders, even though Basia had a few more singles off of her album that made easy listening playlists. Both women have such powerful, expressive singing voices. [I'd also include myself, but I don't have a record out. =)]
February 14th, 2008 at 12:44 am
One word… one name: Poe.
Sure, I could add Jill Sobule, Jane Sibbery, Shawn Colvin, or hell why not Chrissie Hynde. But really, the main name I don’t find here is Poe. Not enough credit given to that voice. Or at least I think so.
February 14th, 2008 at 3:42 am
Holy Melanie! Didn’t expect to see her on this list x]
February 14th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Vienna teng should be the tenth! or yael naim
February 15th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
The tenth member is so easy it is obvious. Olivia Newton John. With that clear a crystal, smooth as silk voice with such range she wins hands down. In addition to her voice she had the class to go with it. She could easily hit 3 octaves where as most female singers struggle to hit 2. She could cross all lines of music. Whether it was Pop, Country, or rock and roll, Olivia could sing it. She could have sung Mary Had a Little Lamb or Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star and turned them into double platnum songs. The answer to your question is so easy.
February 19th, 2008 at 2:09 am
My mom had Melanie’s old album, don’t remember Brand New Key being controversial. Afternoon Delight maybe! LOL
Anybody say Rickie Lee Jones who’s as good as Edie baby.
Joni Mitchell man !! Joni Mitchell quote from the movie Foxes.
February 19th, 2008 at 2:14 am
Hey Gregory! Just was watching Grease again the other night.
February 27th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Madeleine Peyroux
she speaks for herself
March 5th, 2008 at 8:50 am
I’m surprised that no one has already mentioned Sierra Swan. She’s got SUCH an amazing voice and style.
March 9th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Has anyone mentioned Maria Mena from Norway? She has an amazing voice!
March 9th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GV4eb0Jz2Vs
March 18th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Emilie Simon AND Emily Loisseau – these French women need to save the U.S. from its homegrown pate of mediocre to lousy to just plain awful female singers.
April 21st, 2008 at 1:17 am
Lemmee see…
Kelly Willard is the best female singer I’ve ever head. She’s not very well known, as she’s always done Jesus music, but her early records have so much soul.
Simone Rubi, who’s in the San Francisco band Call & Response. Her voice is close to Kelly’s, light and airy and happy. Not many singers who sound like this. The band’s music is great. too.
The singers in Astronaut Wife are really great, and Flying Saucer is the record of the decade, as far as I’m concerned.
If you can find it, last year’s Live How You Love by Kasey Rausch & Friends, is a great record by one of our best singers here in Kansas City. The title track is laid back & mellow and very wise. Kasey is a great singer.
April 26th, 2008 at 7:07 am
I have to agree with those who said Eva Cassidy. Not only for her beautiful voice, but for her ability with musical arrangements (or should I say re-arrangements). She took Classics like “Over the Rainbow” and Sting’s “Fields of Gold” and not only made them new and fresh, but infinately more interesting than the originals.
If she had lived, well, who can say how far she would have gone.
April 28th, 2008 at 5:25 am
Beth Gibbons from Portishead and solo with Rustin Man
(Best Album ever made MOJO 2003)
Kirsty MacColl RIP
Louise Rhodes Spooky spine chilling and life changing
Martina Topley Bird Nuff Said.
Bic Runga Not known much outside Aus/NZ but likely soon.
May 6th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Diamanda Galas not anywhere on the list or on comments?
Absolutely blasphemy. She can manipulate her voice in ways you wouldn’t have thought humanly possible. Very unsettling and highly recommended. Youtube has some good stuff of hers.
May 8th, 2008 at 5:31 am
Anika Moa is great. I particularly like singer/songwriters, and how she turned her back on the conventional Industry route to stardom. There is something about that part of NZ (Wellington) – other great singer/songwriters from her neighbourhood are Bic and Bo Runga (Stella).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nwIyvgPpov0
And Brooke Fraser (Best selling album in NZ)
Also watch out for Aucklander Hollie Smith. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbCczzHiN68
She released her first record in America at 16 (Celtic) and now at 24 sounds like a much older black soul singer. Just signed to Manhatten, multiple award winner in NZ.
And now another NZ talented unique singer/songwriter just signed to Island – Gin Wigmore.
Three years ago at 18 she beat 11,000 others to win a prestigious songwriting competition in the States.
None of these artists is likely to make International stardom given their remoteness in New Zealand. But like most Kiwis, they also realize that is not The Goal.
Parochial as always…
May 13th, 2008 at 12:53 am
Billie Holiday…DUH forgotten by most and very badly recorded but better than anyone today..
May 25th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Bic Runga definitely.
Also Kiki Dee, Sara Evans (American country singer) and Yvonne Elliman.
June 1st, 2008 at 10:55 am
Carrie Dahlby (myspace.com/carriedahlby), completely unknown outside of the comedy music scene, but still quite awesome.
June 27th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
janis joplin??????????? shocked..
July 13th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Perhaps I missed it, but no one has mentioned Skin. She’s my pick.
July 21st, 2008 at 8:44 am
I recommend a female singer called Dolores.
You can find her on:
http://www.myspace.com/foxyladydee
She does some great covers: Neil Young’s Needle and The Damage Done, and Janis’ Mercedes Benz. And she has some cool songs of her own, a ballad called A Walk In The Park…and we’re all waiting for some new demos…very soon!
frodo
July 31st, 2008 at 8:37 pm
Eva Cassidy. If you’ve not heard of her, find her music on utube (or at the Itunes store). Eva passed away at only 33 from cancer. Her music, played in England after her death, became a stunning, smash hit throughout Great Britain and western Europe. This American woman was stunningly talented. Read or listen to the story of her short life and death (also on utube). It will break your heart, but her voice will heal your soul. Listen to her cover of Sting’s Fields of Gold, Songbird, and Over the Rainbow. You’ll be thankful that you did.
July 31st, 2008 at 9:45 pm
lanie: Oh I agree, Eva Cassidy is amazing! I have her cover of Fields of Gold (don’t bother listening to Sting’s version, it doesn’t compare) on my iPod and listen to it frequently
September 11th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Grace Slick…especially on White Rabbit.
She ain’t just another hippie psychedelic rocker.
September 21st, 2008 at 1:55 am
Jessi Colter.
October 9th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
My fave singer ever is Kelly Willard. She did several Jesus-rock records in the 80s, then fell off the map. Her voice is not big, just very pure and sweet. A comtemporary singer who also has those qualities is Simone Rubi, who sang in Call And Response and now has her own group, Rubies. She’s on MySpace here:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=14337834
October 13th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Mary Lou Lord or Regina Spektor
October 15th, 2008 at 8:18 pm
PJ Harvey
October 20th, 2008 at 4:12 am
Emiliana Torrini definately deserves to be here
To Be Free is an amazing song
October 20th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Emiliana Torrini!!!!!
October 22nd, 2008 at 5:54 am
Peaches is RUDE! xD
I heard her song on the film My Little Eye
October 22nd, 2008 at 6:49 am
Personally, I love Francois Hardy. My vote is in. Smiles from Jane:-)
November 1st, 2008 at 11:13 pm
Beth Ditto from the Gossip…. Hands down!
November 17th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Put Amy Lee from the group Evanescence on. Unless she is to popular, but her song My Immortal has a great vocal.
December 23rd, 2008 at 4:30 pm
I think you should nominate “watsherface07″.
December 23rd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
she’s from youtube.
December 24th, 2008 at 1:45 pm
I can honestly say that i have never heard any of these people before or even know who they are.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Marianne Faithfull
December 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
I believe Ani Difranco should be 10th… or possibly Bjork.
January 1st, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Julia Fordham, her voice is ethereal.
January 3rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Charlotte Martin. Period.
January 13th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Where is Karen Carpenter?
January 15th, 2009 at 6:53 am
…and what about Kate Bush???
January 22nd, 2009 at 4:54 am
Checking… Re-checking… No, no-one mentioned Sinead O’Connor… Now THAT’S underrated…
January 30th, 2009 at 6:20 am
I was waiting to see Eva Cassidy on the list and she didnt appear. She Should definetly be on it, some of her songs are my favourite of all time.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Beth Ditto!
&
Lorrie Collins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P7sydslbsU
PS: She’s only 15 in the video & she’s still performing to this day. AMAZING.
February 12th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
On this list – Janis Ian.
My overall top female singer/songwriter – Joni Mitchell.
February 20th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Phoebe Snow — hands down. She can even IMPROVE upon a Lennon/McCartney — that takes serious talent.
February 23rd, 2009 at 4:21 pm
What a fantastic list! Love so many of the artists listed and/or in the comments like Emilie Simon, Regina Spektor, Kimya Dawson.
A few others to check out:
Asteroids Galaxy Tour
http://www.myspace.com/theasteroidsgalaxytour
Melora Creagor/Rasputina
http://www.myspace.com/rasputina
Lesa Carlson
http://www.myspace.com/lesajanecarlson
Hanne Hukkelberg
http://www.myspace.com/hannehukkelberg
February 25th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
SARAH MCLACHLAN.
Endlessly talented.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Grace Slick
Anne Wilson
March 26th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
I think Kate Bush is the greatest female artist and the most underrated as she may not have the most albums (8) but her albums are great, everything about them. In my opinion I think she diserves way more credit for the years of great music.
March 26th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Cat Power.
Nellie McKay.
April 5th, 2009 at 9:13 am
No DORIS DAY? HELLO?
April 14th, 2009 at 4:45 am
I love Sissel Kyrkjebo from Norway! She’s got an excellent voice and is a very talented singer since she was a very young lady. She’s barely known outside of Norway (and Scandinavia maybe), though she is the female voice you can hear in some of the instrumental tracks of Titanic soundtrack.
April 28th, 2009 at 10:59 am
bucslim – Joni didn’t date Crosby, it was either Stills or Nash. I think it was Stills.
Not that they haven’t been mentioned, but Susan Tedeschi, Tracy Chapman, Sarah MachLachlan, and Feist (though they’re both pretty huge here in Canada) are all incredible artists.
But my number one vote has got to be Neko Case. She’s super-talented, does solo work as well as being in the New Pornographers (and guest spots on other recordings), and not that it has anything to do with talent, but I’m a sucker for a sexy redhead.
May 13th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Judee Sill was a 1970s-era singer-songwriter, whose couple of albums flopped unfortunately.
she eventually succumbed to heroin addiction and died, I believe, in 1979, her body going unclaimed, and she was buried in a pauper’s grave.
In other words, no doubt she was `underrated.’
May 13th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Carell Casey is a little known singer, but amazing! She has a really beautiful voice and her songs are poetry…. linky:
http://www.myspace.com/carellcasey
May 17th, 2009 at 3:02 am
Judy Dyble (ex Fairport & Trader Horne), Sonja Kristina (Curved Air, Sandy Denny (Fairport & Fotheringay).
All except Sandy Denny still very much recording.
Then how about Terre Roche, Jill Sobule, Miquette Giraudy, Christine Perfect (later McVie)………….
May 17th, 2009 at 3:24 am
Marissa Nadler. Fabulous voice – like ice cream and shards of glass. Pure and sweet with the power to make you bleed
Kirsty MacColl RIP. Brilliant lyrics too
Jill Sobule. Kooky and sweet voiced
And I’d agree with Beth Ditto, but not so sure she’s under-rated
May 28th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Great List. And great suggestions! My two cents:
Any of the girls from The Corrs.
July 12th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I have some female singers here for consideration that haven’t been mentioned yet.
Elkie Brooks
Mary Margaret O’Hara
Syreeta
Wendy Waldman
Ellen Shipley
Valerie Carter
Laura Allan
Patty Waters
Judy Henske
Ashley Cleveland
July 17th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
1. Johnette Napolitano (Concrete Blonde). Truly one of the finest voices anywhere.
2. Siouxie Sioux (Banshees, Critters). Fantastic voice. Queen of English song.
3. Allison Krause (Union Station). An angel’s voice.
August 8th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Plenty of good ones, I’ll vote for Beth Orton and Patty Larkin.
August 8th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
So many underrated ladies this day…
Here are my personal faves:
- Alice Smith:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDuFwnCSXEQ
- Asa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph0LJ8-4IaM
- Au Revoir Simone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW1aQvlGDfo
- Corinne Bailey Rae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O_9OFrJsec
- I Blame Coco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0n240N4bU
- Joanna Newsom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A45s839vSqE
- Kate Miller-Heidke
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ojoqHbPmzg
- Miss Li
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP0rxX65S2A
- Nicole Atkins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xdkX4z3Q6M
- Remi Nicole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a35CvcN552s
- The Watson Twins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDecXVPPJL8
Thanks to this list I discovered such greatness, thank you all so much for spreading such names as Anya Marina and Anika Moa
I love everything here but Lyric’s choices (60), Lindsay Lohan?? Really?!
Amy Winehouse and Bjork are AMAZING and two of my favourite singers ever, but I don’t think they’re that underrated…
August 25th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Some really great female singers listed in this thread!! (Anya Marina, Emilie Simon, Melora Creagor, Hanne Hukkelberg, Mette Lindberg, …)
Another singer to check out is Alicia Perrone of Fans of Jimmy Century. I particularly like her voice on the songs Hot Sahara and Hush Madame X.
http://www.last.fm/music/Fans+of+Jimmy+Century
September 8th, 2009 at 7:09 am
As someone else said, Feist is a good one – they used her song 1,2,3,4 in an iPod Commercial a couple of years ago.
I also say Annie Lennox, and Patricia Day from the HorrorPops.
October 19th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
I was a bit lazy in scanning this whole thing, but I know that no lover of lyrical genius and graceful melody can go without a good dose of Aimee Mann:
October 24th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Here are some that have not been listed and should be
1. Mia Doi Todd.
2. Lucinda Williams
3. Kathleen Edwards
4. Melody Gardot
5. Meg Baird
6. Mary Gauthier
7. Martha Wainwright
8. Lykke Li
9. Laura Veirs
10.Laura Marling
11.KT Tunstall
12.Kristin Mooney
13.Katie Melua
14.Kathryn williams
15.Katell Keineg (Personal favorite)
These are just the K,L,M from my ipod.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Joan Armatrading
Phoebe Snow