During World War Two, many individuals from many countries risked their lives to save various minorities, especially Jews, from the horrors of the Holocaust. This list commemorates 10 of them. All these individuals were made ‘Righteous Among the Nations’ by the Israeli government in honor of what they had done.
Feng-Shan Ho was a Chinese diplomat who saved approximately 2,000 Jews during the early years of World War II. Ho was consul-general of the Chinese embassy in Vienna during the Austrian annexation. After the “Kristallnacht” in 1938, the situation for the almost 200,000 Austrian Jews got rapidly more difficult, but in order to leave the country they had to provide proof of emigration, usually a visa from a foreign nation or a valid boat ticket. This, however, was difficult and the Evian Conference, in 1938, where 32 countries had failed to take a stand against Nazi Germany, made this even more complicated. Acting against orders of his superior, Ho, for humanitarian reasons, started to issue visas to Shanghai. He continued to issue these visas until he was ordered to return to China in May 1940. After the war, Ho settled in San Francisco where he died in 1997. He was made ‘Righteous Among the Nations’ in 2001 for his efforts to save thousands of Austrian Jews.
Irena Sendler was a Polish Catholic social worker. During World War II, she was a member of the Polish Underground and the Żegota Polish anti-Holocaust resistance in Warsaw. She helped save 2,500 Jewish children from the Warsaw Ghetto by providing them with false documents and sheltering them in individual and group children’s homes outside the ghetto. As an employee of the Social Welfare Department, she had a special permit to enter the Warsaw Ghetto, to check for signs of typhus, something the Nazis feared would spread beyond the ghetto. During these visits, she wore a Star of David as a sign of solidarity with the Jewish people and so as not to call attention to herself. She cooperated with the Children’s Section of the Municipal Administration, linked with the RGO (Central Welfare Council), a Polish relief organization tolerated under German supervision. She organized the smuggling of Jewish children from the ghetto, carrying them out in boxes, suitcases and trolleys. Under the pretext of conducting inspections of sanitary conditions during a typhoid outbreak, Sendler visited the ghetto and smuggled out babies and small children in ambulances and trams, sometimes disguising them as packages. Despite being tortured and imprisoned by the Nazis, Sendler continued to do all she could to help Jewish children in Warsaw. In 1965 she was made ‘Righteous Among the Nations’, and died in 2008.
Hugh O’Flaherty was an Irish Catholic priest who saved about 4,000 Allied soldiers and Jews in Rome during World War II. O’Flaherty used his status as a priest and his protection by the Vatican to conceal 4000 escapees – Allied soldiers and Jews – in flats, farms and convents. Despite the Nazis desperately wanting to stop his actions, his protection by the Vatican prevented them officially arresting him. He survived an assassination attempt and, along with the Catholic Church, saved the majority of Jews in Rome. He died in 1963.
Giorgio Perlasca was an Italian who helped save thousands of Hungarian Jews from the Holocaust by issuing them fake passports to travel to neutral countries. Despite fighting alongside Franco in the Spanish Civil War, Perlasca became disillusioned with Fascism and escaped from Italy to the Spanish embassy in Budapest in 1944, where he became a Spanish citizen on account of his war experience. While there he worked with Spanish diplomat Angel Sanz Briz in creating fake passports to smuggle Jews out of the country. When Sanz Briz was removed from his post, Perlasca pretended to be his substitute so that he could continue printing false passports. He also personally sheltered thousands of Hungarian Jews while they were waiting for their passports. It is estimated he saved over 5,000 Jews from the Holocaust. After the war, he returned to Italy where he lived in obscurity until he was contacted in 1987 by a group of Hungarian Jews he had rescued, and his remarkable story became public. He died in 1992.
Chiune Sugihara was a Japanese diplomat, serving as Vice Consul for the Japanese Empire in Lithuania. Soon after the occupation of Lithuania by the Soviet Union, he helped an estimated 6,000 Jews leave the country by issuing transit visas to Jewish refugees so that they could travel to Japan. Most of the Jews who escaped were refugees from Poland or residents of Lithuania. From July 31 to August 28 1940, Sugihara began to grant visas on his own initiative. Many times he ignored the requirements and arranged the Jews with a ten-day visa to transit through Japan, in direct violation of his orders. Given his inferior post and the culture of the Japanese Foreign Service bureaucracy, this was an extraordinary act of disobedience. He spoke to Soviet officials who agreed to let the Jews travel through the country via the Trans-Siberian railway at five times the standard ticket price. Sugihara continued to hand-write visas (reportedly spending 18–20 hours a day on them, producing a normal month’s worth of visas each day) until September 4, when he had to leave his post before the consulate was closed. By that time he had granted thousands of visas to Jews, many of them heads of household who could take their families with them. According to witnesses, he was still writing visas while in transit in hotel and after boarding the train, throwing visas into the crowd of desperate refugees out the train’s window even as the train pulled out. Sugihara returned to Japan where he lived in obscurity until he was made ‘Righteous Among the Nations’ by Israel in 1985. He died the following year.
Georg Ferdinand Duckwitz was a German member of the Nazi party who worked as a special envoy to Nazi occupied Denmark. Although Danish Jews were initially treated quite favourably by the Nazis, by 1943 it was planned that they would be rounded up and deported to concentration camps. Risking his career, Duckwitz made a secret visit to neutral Sweden where he convinced Prime Minister Per Albin Hansson to allow Danish Jewish refugees to escape to Sweden. He then went to Denmark and notified Danish politician Hans Hedtoft about the deportation. Hedtoft warned senior rabbis in the country, and in the following two months, over 6,000 Jews were ferried secretly to Sweden in boats. After his actions, Duckwitz returned to his duties as a Nazi official, refusing to reveal what he had done in case of losing his job or worse. After the war, he continued working as West Germany’s ambassador to Denmark. He died in 1973. Due to his actions, it is estimated that around 99% of Denmark’s Jews survived the Holocaust.
Frank Foley was a British secret service agent estimated to have saved 10,000 Jews from the Holocaust. In his role as passport control officer he helped thousands of Jews escape from Nazi Germany. At the 1961 trial of former ranking Nazi Adolf Eichmann, he was described as a “Scarlet Pimpernel” for the way he risked his own life to save Jews threatened with death by the Nazis. Despite having no diplomatic immunity and being liable to arrest at any time, Foley would bend the rules when stamping passports and issuing visas, to allow Jews to escape “legally” to Britain or Palestine, which was then controlled by the British. Sometimes he went further, going into internment camps to get Jews out, hiding them in his home, and helping them get forged passports. He died in 1958.
Aristides de Sousa Mendes was a Portuguese Diplomat who ignored and defied the orders of his own government for the safety of war refugees fleeing from invading German military forces in the early years of World War II. Between the June 16 and June 23 1940, he frantically issued Portuguese visas free of charge, to over 30,000 refugees seeking to escape the Nazi terror, 12,000 of whom were Jews. De Sousa Mendes worked in the Portuguese consulate in Bordeaux, France, where despite explicit orders not to give visas to “foreigners of indefinite or contested nationality; the stateless; or Jews expelled from their countries of origin”. De Sousa Mendes sporadically began printing Portuguese visas illegally as early as 1939, but it wasn’t until mid June 1940, when Portugal’s status was expected to change from ‘neutral’ to ‘non-belligerent’ which would make Portugal more allied to Nazi Germany. Between June 16 and June 23, de Sousa Mendes began frantically issuing visas, along with his friend, the Rabbi Chaim Kruger, to refugees waiting in line. De Sousa Mendes travelled to the border town of Irun on June 23, where he personally raised the gate to allow disputed passages into Spain to occur. It was at this point that Ambassador Teotónio Pereira arrived at Irun, declared Sousa Mendes mentally incompetent and invalidated all further visas. An Associated Press story the next day reported that some 10,000 persons attempting to cross over into Spain were excluded because authorities no longer granted recognition to their visas. As de Sousa Mendes continued the flow of visas, Dictator Salazar sent a telegram on June 24 recalling him to Portugal, an order he received upon returning to Bordeaux on June 26 but followed only slowly, not arriving in Portugal until July 8. Along the way he issued Portuguese passports to refugees now trapped in occupied France, saving them by preventing their deportation to concentration camps. After the war, de Sousa Mendes lived in destitute poverty, dying in 1954.
Dimitar Peshev was the Deputy Speaker of the National Assembly of Bulgaria and Minister of Justice during World War II. He rebelled against the pro-Nazi cabinet and prevented the deportation of Bulgaria’s 48,000 Jews. Bulgaria was a strong supporter of the Holocaust, rounding up thousands of Jews in occupied Thrace and Macedonia to be deported to death camps. However, when it came to its own Jewish citizens, the government faced strong opposition from Peshev and the Bulgarian Orthodox Church. Although Peshev had been involved in various anti-Semitic legislation that had passed in Bulgaria during the early years of the War, the decision by the government to deport Bulgaria’s 48,000 Jews on March 8 1943 was too much for Peshev. After being informed of the deportation, Peshev tried several times to see Prime Minister Bogdan Filov but the prime minister refused. Next, he went to see Interior Minister Petur Gabrovski insisting that he cancel the deportations. After much persuasion, Gabrovski finally called the governor of Kyustendil and instructed him to stop preparations for the Jewish deportations. By 5:30 p.m. on March 9, the order had been cancelled. After the war, Peshev was charged with anti-Semitism and anti-Communism by the Soviet courts, and sentenced to death. However, after outcry from the Jewish community, his sentence was commuted to 15 years imprisonment, though released after just one year. His deeds went unrecognised after the war, as he lived in poverty in Bulgaria. It was not until 1973 when he was awarded the title of Righteous Among the Nations. He died the same year.
Raoul Wallenberg was a Swedish humanitarian who worked in Budapest, Hungary during World War II to rescue Jews from the Holocaust. Between July and December of 1944 he issued fake passports and housed several thousand Jews, saving an estimated 100,000 people from the Nazis. On July 9 1944, Wallenberg travelled to Budapest as the First Secretary to the Swedish legation in Budapest. Together with fellow Swedish diplomat Per Anger he issued “protective passports” which identified the bearers as Swedish subjects awaiting repatriation and prevented their deportation. Although not legally valid, these documents looked official and were generally accepted by German and Hungarian authorities, who sometimes were also bribed.
Wallenberg rented thirty-two buildings in Budapest, and declared them to be extraterritorial, protected by diplomatic immunity. He put up signs such as “The Swedish Library” and “The Swedish Research Institute” on their doors and hung oversize Swedish flags on the front of the buildings to bolster the deception. The buildings eventually housed almost 10,000 people.
Wallenberg started sleeping in a different house each night, to avoid being captured or killed by Arrow Cross Party members or by Adolf Eichmann. Two days before the Russians occupied Budapest, Wallenberg negotiated with both Eichmann and General Gerhard Schmidthuber, the commander of the German army in Hungary. Wallenberg bribed Arrow Cross Party member Pál Szalai to deliver a note in which Wallenberg persuaded them to cancel a final effort to organize a death march of the remaining Jews in Budapest by threatening to have them prosecuted for war crimes once the war was over.
People saved by Wallenberg include biochemist Lars Ernster, who was housed in the Swedish embassy, and Tom Lantos, the only Holocaust survivor to serve in the United States House of Representatives, who lived in one of the Swedish protective houses.
After the war, Wallenberg was captured and imprisoned by the Soviets, and died in prison in 1947, though the date and circumstances of his death remain disputed.
On April 28, 1935, four years before the War even started, Pacelli (soon to become Pope Pius XII) gave a speech that aroused the attention of the world press. Speaking to an audience of 250,000 pilgrims in Lourdes, France, the future Pius XII stated that the Nazis “are in reality only miserable plagiarists who dress up old errors with new tinsel. It does not make any difference whether they flock to the banners of social revolution, whether they are guided by a false concept of the world and of life, or whether they are possessed by the superstition of a race and blood cult.” During the war (when Pacelli had become Pope) he spoke out strongly in defense of the Jews with the first mass arrests in 1943, and L’Osservatore Romano carried an article protesting the internment of Jews and the confiscation of their property. The Fascist press came to call the Vatican paper ‘a mouthpiece of the Jews.’
Prior to the Nazi invasion, the Pope had been working hard to get Jews out of Italy by emigration; he now was forced to turn his attention to finding them hiding places: “[t]he Pope sent out the order that religious buildings were to give refuge to Jews, even at the price of great personal sacrifice on the part of their occupants; he released monasteries and convents from the cloister rule forbidding entry into these religious houses to all but a few specified outsiders, so that they could be used as hiding places. Thousands of Jews — the figures run from 4,000 to 7,000 — were hidden, fed, clothed, and bedded in the 180 known places of refuge in Vatican City, churches and basilicas, Church administrative buildings, and parish houses. Unknown numbers of Jews were sheltered in Castel Gandolfo, the site of the Pope’s summer residence, private homes, hospitals, and nursing institutions; and the Pope took personal responsibility for the care of the children of Jews deported from Italy.” [Source]
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what’s the pope doing in this list???
He is just a Bonus
Read what he said and did, since he was the only one who spoke out about it and activated secretly elements of the Catholic Church to save Jews under the noses of the Nazi's. If you don't read and don't think, please don't talk. Best, however, is not to be a bigot and to think and try to be reasonable even about people you don't particularly care about: other religions, other political or ideological movements, other ethnic and racial groups. Remember the pope pleaded also for all minorities at a time that in the US blacks were being lynched and Indian kids were taken away from their families by the government and put in schools to "civilize" them, and Japanese-Americans were in concentration camps in California.
A beautiful list.
I don’t know if this is an old saying, or something I made up…I’m pretty sure I heard it somewhere:
Save one life and you save multitudes.
Meaning,, of course, you have also saved all of the lives of the descendants of the one life you saved.
Yes, these people are all heroes, Righteous Among the Nations, and yes, there are many names not included on the list…but JT only had 10 names with which to work. These were 10 good choices.
Thank you, JT. You have brightened my life.
Ummm, Oskar Schindler?
#62 Segue – I agree completely. The people on this list represent the very best that humanity has to offer: selfless love for others in the face of persecution, regardless of race or background, and with no hope of reward other than knowing that you made a difference.
My respect for these people is enhanced by the fact that it seems that after the war they mostly lived humble, quiet lives. No 7 Giorgio Perlasca struck a particular chord with me as no-one would have even known about his story if he was not contacted by those he had helped. Truly amazing
Once again I ask what is brave in being a diplomat and writing visas???
“Once again I ask what is brave in being a diplomat and writing visas???” Lalalilo
Read the title of this list again, I mean actually read it! Got it? Where does it say brave?
Feng-Shan Ho saw injustice happening and he did what he could to make it right even though he was explicitly told not to by his government. Sounds like a good man to me, and well deserving of being on this list.
I’m reading these comments and I can’t believe what I see written in them. Instead of praising people for having guts or enough conscience to help and save lives, you see fit to argue if they could have done more or that it wasn’t all that much to do for them. I am seriously baffled by that.
ONE life saved is already priceless and worth mentioning.
And how would you have acted in those kind of times? With that kind of an axe hanging above your neck?
You don’t know that until you are in a situation like that.
Some of you people never even stand to think that those times were different. Some of you don’t have a clue what it’s like to live in war time, especially in that kind of war time so DON’T get all self righteous here by saying “oh that was nothing” or “he could have done more”. It’s quite different to see something written and read it than live through it. The majority of us aren’t even fit to kiss those peoples boots for what they have done.
Well kiwiboi, besides being a pompous ass, your argumentative skills are completely lacking. You attack a typo?? That’s your best line of defense?? Wow! There are many more Jewish leaders/scholars who praised Pope Pius during and after the war.
Rabbi Elio Toaff, Chief Rabbi of Rome, said after the death of the Pope: “More than anyone else, we have had the opportunity to appreciate the great kindness, filled with compassion and magnanimity, that the Pope displayed during the terrible years of persecution and terror, when it seemed that there was no hope left for us.” (Quoted in Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, March 4,1963.)
Golda Meir, said: “We share the grief of the world over the death of His Holiness Pius XII. During a generation of wars and dissensions, he affirmed the high ideals of peace and compassion. During the ten years of Nazi terror, when our people went through the horrors of martyrdom, the Pope raised his voice to condemn the persecutors and to commiserate with their victims. The life of our time has been enriched by a voice which expressed the great moral truths above the tumults of daily conflicts. We grieve over the loss of a great defender of peace.” (Quoted in Civilta Cattolica, 1958, III, 323)
There’s actually quite a bit more. So I say again, kiwiboy, know your facts.
Well kiwiboi, besides being a pompous ass, your argumentative skills are completely lacking.
Steelman – firstly, about the “pompous” bit; I’m not the one who exhorts others to “know your facts” on the basis of one book that is largely discredited, and another that is hardly a paragon of neutrality.
You attack a typo??
Nope. Better than that. I was implying that you have clearly not read Lapide’s book, because anybody who has would be aware of the baselessness of the claims he makes. You even got the author’s name wrong; typo? LOL…yeah, right.
That’s your best line of defense?? Wow! There are many more Jewish leaders/scholars who praised Pope Pius during and after the war.
Are you blind as well as stupid? I’m not saying there aren’t. But I’m also saying that the question over whether he could have done more is entirely reasonable.
Feel free to read my comment again (#46). Pay particular attention to the bit where I say “my personal view is that it is perfectly understandable for people to doubt Pius’ WWII record. However, I also believe that he was certainly instrumental in saving Jewish lives during the war. The burning questions are : to what extent did he act, and could he reasonably have done more?”
Rabbi Elio Toaff, Chief Rabbi of Rome, said…
Ok, I’m not familiar with this Rome-based Rabbi, so let’s move onto the next one…
Golda Meir, said…
You should read “Pope Pius XII and the Holocaust”; it’s a collation of essays etc by recognised authorities on the Holocaust. Allow me to quote what it says about Golda Meir’s words about Pius :
“[Golda Meir] knew perfectly well that Pius XII had never raised his voice on behalf of the Jewish people during the Holocaust”
Here it is (page 212) : http://www.amazon.com/Pope-Holocaust-Leicester-History-Religions/dp/0826475663/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1226343756&sr=11-1
Anyhow, at least I understand your childlike thought processes; specifically, that if a Jew says something positive about Pius, then – gee – it must be true…
To you – this represents “fact”.
In that case, here’s a recent quote from Israeli President Peres :
“We have reason to believe that Pius XII didn’t do enough to save Jewish life.”
Here’s another one from the Israeli Social Affairs minister (again, very recent) :
“Instead of acting according to the biblical verse ‘thou shalt not stand against the blood of thy neighbour’ the pope kept silent – and perhaps even worse.”
Read it here : http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/23/israelandthepalestinians-secondworldwar
Not enough? Have this one from Reuters; it’s an article detailing how a large Holocaust Survivors and Descendants group is protesting the beatification of Pius :
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4A65AR20081107?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
Ah, what the *****…have another one, quoting no less than the Vatican official leading the Pius canonization cause :
“Earlier this month, the priest in charge of the case for Pius’ sainthood, Father Peter Gumpel, said Pope Benedict was hesitating over approving the first step towards making his predecessor a saint out of concern for maintaining “good relations” with Jews.”
Hmmm…I wonder why there isn’t anything other than “good relations” with Jews already? If Pius was such a saviour to the Jews, what’s the problem? Anyhow, read it here :
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/3288521/Vatican-stalling-on-secret-files-which-could-prove-wartime-Pope-ignored-Holocaust.html
So I say again, kiwiboy, know your facts.
LOL…*****ing moron
laldillo (sic) (65)
Nothing at all. That’s probably why so many hundreds of diplomats did it- NOT!
It is all very well saying how brave the Polish were, but to claim some sort of superior worthiness is not only STUPID but puerile. The entire situation was not a case of some game whereby you got more points saving Jews under these conditions than under those conditions.
As for the assertion that is was so easy for a diplomat to do what they did, then one wonders why diplomats from truly large countries with the ability to stand up to Hitler did not do more? Where are the US and British diplomats?. These people all stood up to there govt, defying express orders to stop, knowing that they ran serious risks to their lives FROM THEIR OWN Governments. Especially the two Asian Diplomats.
Cheers
Lee
… all the yak about Schindler, what about Count Folke Bernadotte? Or is the ending to *his* story too “uncomfortable” to include in this list despite his considerable influence saving a considerable number of Jewish lives?
“Folke Bernadotte, Count of Wisborg (2 January 1895 – 17 September 1948), was a Swedish diplomat noted for his negotiation of the release of about 15,000 prisoners from German concentration camps during World War II including between 6,500 and 11,000 Jews.
After the war, Bernadotte was unanimously chosen by the victorious powers to be the United Nations Security Council mediator in the Arab-Israeli conflict of 1947-1948. He was assassinated in Jerusalem in 1948 by members of the underground Zionist group Lehi while pursuing his official duties.”
Anyone who helped the Jews or any other targeted people during WWII. NO MATTER THE DEGREE should be praised !
So, KiwiBOY (yes, boy because you are obviouly not an adult), you’ve proven my point once again that you are not only a pompous ass, but a complete idiot as well. You claim that two of the books I quoted were “discreditied” without ANY proof that they are. Gee, do I go to say that the books you quoted are completly discredited? Does that work for you? So your style is to make baseless claims and add in ad hominem attacks (do you even know what this means? I doubt it.) thinking you made an argument. Idiot.
You said, “Ok, I’m not familiar with this Rome-based Rabbi, so let’s move onto the next one…” Oh gee, you admit you are ill-informed of a prominent Jewish leader of the time and you just blow if off as unimportant. Idiot. I shouldn’t take you serious at this point, but trodding along…..
How about Albert Einstein who was quoted in Time magazine (December 23, 1940): “Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing truth. …The Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual truth and moral freedom.” Or are you going to counter that “he thought differently”. Idiot.
A New York Times editorial (December 25, 1942) was specific: “The voice of Pius XII is a lonely voice in the silence and darkness enveloping Europe this Christmas…He is about the only ruler left on the Continent of Europe who dares to raise his voice at all.” Or maybe the New York Times doesn’t know what it’s talking about. Idiot.
In September 1945, Dr. Joseph Nathan—who represented the Hebrew Commission—stated “Above all, we acknowledge the Supreme Pontiff and the religious men and women who, executing the directives of the Holy Father, recognized the persecuted as their brothers and, with great abnegation, hastened to help them, disregarding the terrible dangers to which they were exposed.” Idiot.
There were no questions about Pope Pius’ strength and resolve during the Holocaust until the play “The Deputy” by
Rolf Hochhuth came out in 1963. The play was anti-Catholic and attempted to cast doubt on Pius’ role.
Here’s one more for good measure:
The foremost Jewish Scholar of the Holocaust at its height in Hungary, Jeno Levai, insisted some years ago that it was a “particularly regrettable irony that the one person in all of occupied Europe who did more than anyone else to halt the dreadful crime and alleviate its consequences is today made the scapegoat for the failures of others.”
Stop being an idiot, BOY. Learn some facts.
no, no the story of the pope xii has a lot of controversy, I don’t think it’s right to represent him as in written in the list, because you can’t say he’s good or he’s evil as a matter of fact. For example Jesuits suppose that he saved only hebrews who were converted to Catholicism, not the others. The problem is a living matter because Pope Nazingher wants to beatify him, even if there has been a lot of protests by roman Hebrews. Moreover he doesn’t want to open the vatican historical archives to public, giving the chance to read the original sources. In english I haven’t found a lot of documents talking about these facts, but at the end of this post in italian http://casarrubea.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/pio-xii-e-i-nazisti/ there are some pdfs in english which are about the meeting happened on october 18,1943 between Sir D’Arcy Osborne and the Pope Pio XII, taken from english archives.
I’ve also got a wikipedia link in italian, if someone understands, i’m sorry but it’s too long to translate.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversia_storiografica_sulla_figura_di_Pio_XII_e_l%27Olocausto
http://www.repubblica.it/2008/07/sezioni/esteri/benedetto-xvi-23/leggi-razziali/leggi-razziali.html
Yeah what about Oskar Schindler…he’s the one that comes to mind for me
Schindler was also in my mind, i thought he’ll be in number one.. but yes, the others have a point.. i never knew this people.. and they saved a lot! Schindler is maybe the most popular “savior” of Jews but not the person who saved “more” Jews.. but i think he still deserve to be in the bonus, he is after all very well known.
great list..
and what’s wrong of having a Pope saving thousands of lives? it’s a catholic way to save thy neighbor..
Wow, this is a great list, I just hope that I’d be that honorable if I were put in any of those situations.
Steelman – I’m not even going to waste insults on you. You demand that people “learn some facts” and yet I discover that you have done nothing but spam us with blatant cut-and-paste from this Catholic website (no bias there, then…) :
http://www.catholicleague.org/pius/truth.htm
Furthermore, you have added not one iota of an original thought to “your” argument.
At least I have read and studied broadly on this topic and have stated a balanced and reasoned view (and I say “view” because I acknowledge that it is my opinion; if these were matters of “fact” there would be no controversy). I also took the trouble to publish the URL’s of any sources I used. You, on the other hand…
Anyhow, the contemptible shallowness of your intellect has been proven, Steelman. I was right…you are clearly a moron without the capacity for original thought. It’s there for everybody to see.
Zing! Good job Kiwiboi. It appears to me (correct me if I’m wrong – I’m sure you will) that the controversy lies in the fact that the Pope and his actions were first designed to preserve the Mother Church, and secondly to save lives.
PS; wish I could read Italian…
It appears to me (correct me if I’m wrong – I’m sure you will) that the controversy lies in the fact that the Pope and his actions were first designed to preserve the Mother Church, and secondly to save lives.
Mom – some might go so far to say that that is a charitable interpretation of Pius’ actions/inaction.
Unfortunately, there is a large body of opinion that lends a measure of credence to claims of institutional anti-semitism with respect to the Catholic Church. But as for Pius’ motives (if he could, indeed, have done more), I guess we will never know the full truth. Personally, as a Catholic, I’d like to continue to believe that he acted humanely and charitably and to the full extent of his viable capability. Hmmm…..
PS; wish I could read Italian…
Me too, Mom…the language of love
Mom,
There’s no “zing” on boy’s part. He has continued his failure to address the broad support given to Pius both at the time of the Holocaust, right after the Holocaust, at his death, and up to the present. He can have all the opinion in the world that Pius did not do enough, but he has presented nothing to support such an opinon except his own boisterous acclamations – which don’t mean anything.
He claims he has “read up” on the issue, but even admits his lack of knowledge on key personalities who have supported Pius. My guess is that he has read one “contrary” article and thinks he’s an expert. He spews agitprop.
kiwiboi: I can’t speak to the authenticity of Pope Pius XII’s actions or motives, but I can speak to the emotions of every Jew I know (and having spent my career in first the film biz, then the book biz, I know quite a few). Each and every one praises Pope Pius XII as a hero.
If their praise and trust is misplaced, it would be a true shame, but I don’t think they care *why* he did what he did, but that he did it. That, at least, is the message I get as an outsider.
Take it as you will.
He can have all the opinion in the world that Pius did not do enough, but he has presented nothing to support such an opinon
Steelman – Show me where I state that I hold the view that Pius did not do enough? I dare you! I double *****ing dare you!
…and, I’m waiting for your response.
ZING!
I can speak to the emotions of every Jew I know (and having spent my career in first the film biz, then the book biz, I know quite a few). Each and every one praises Pope Pius XII as a hero.
segue – so “each and every” Jew you know “praises Pius as a hero”? Wow…interesting.
Take it as you will.
I will, of course, afford it the same credibility that I afford a good many of your comments.
Take that as you will….
84. kiwiboi:…I will, of course, afford it the same credibility that I afford a good many of your comments.
Take that as you will….
****
I am perfectly aware of the fact that you don’t like me, kiwiboi. You make that clear as often as possible.
I don’t care.
Take that to the bank.
I am perfectly aware of the fact that you don’t like me, kiwiboi.
Actually, segue, I’m not sure what gives you that impression (because, in all honesty, we have tended to get on generally ok). Unless, of course, you have reached this conclusion because I will challenge some of your more outlandish opinions or – horror of horrors – disagree with you.
To which I say : big deal…get over yourself.
kiwiboi, I was wrong to say that.
I apologize.
segue – accepted and appreciated. And, I genuinely meant it when I said that I thought we generally got on ok.
In turn, I apologise for the needless sarcasm.
Anyhows, water under the bridge now…
Thank you.
Accepted and appreciated in turn.
[i]“Folke Bernadotte, Count of Wisborg (2 January 1895 – 17 September 1948), was a Swedish diplomat noted for his negotiation of the release of about 15,000 prisoners from German concentration camps during World War II including between 6,500 and 11,000 Jews.
After the war, Bernadotte was unanimously chosen by the victorious powers to be the United Nations Security Council mediator in the Arab-Israeli conflict of 1947-1948. He was assassinated in Jerusalem in 1948 by members of the underground Zionist group Lehi while pursuing his official duties.”[/i]
now THAT is what i call irony.
I agree with SR. Where the hell is Oskar Schindler on here?
After reading all of your comments, it is evident that this is an emotional subject. What ever the reason these people had for saving lives, they have to be commended. We, after all this time, can not get into their heads and find true intentions. Let us be greatful that so many stood up to try to right the wrong that Hitler’s madness heaped on so many. The ones that made the list,and the ones that did not, were all brave enough to make a stand. I wonder, under the danger and pressure of war, if we could all be sure that we could do the same.
I may be all all hyped up by the movies, but surely Oskar Shindler should be mentioned??? A normal man who show moral and courage in horificly unmorale and uncourage times….
The angel of Budapest – Angel Sank Briz,, 1910-1980, by Salvo Haim Alhadeff
http://www.sefarad.org/publication/lm/017/salvo.html
Toward the war’s end, Sanz Briz had to flee Budapest, leaving these Jews open to arrest and deportation. An Italian diplomat, Giorgio Perlasca, who was himself living under Spanish protection, used forged documents to persuade the Hungarian authorities that he was the new Spanish Ambassador. As such, he continued Spanish protection of Hungarian Jews until the Red Army arrived. [15]
Although Spain effectively undertook more to help Jews escape deportation to the concentration camps than many neutral (Switzerland, Turkey) and Allied countries did,[15][16] there has been debate about Spain’s wartime attitude towards refugees. Francoist Spain, despite its aversion to Zionism and “Judeo”-Freemasonry, does not appear to have shared the rabid anti-Semitic ideology promoted by the Nazis. Certainly, about 25,000 to 35,000 refugees, mainly Jews, were allowed to transit through Spain to Portugal and beyond. About 5,000 Jews in occupied Europe benefitted from Spanish protection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_in_World_War_II
tell me if they were hiding them or not.
http://www.raoulwallenberg.net/?es/salvadores/diplomat/eduardo-propper-salvadores.3314.htm
hhttp://www .altoyclaro.com/HistoriaFrancoJudios.htm
http://cmcort.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/franco-y-e…
Where they hiding them or are the making them work in factorys while giving them food water and shelter.
i think that these people did a good thing for the fews. they risked their lifess to save many other lifes. it would have turned out way different if they didnt give their lifes.
Uh, am I the only one that examined history and sees that Pope Pius XII did almost NOTHING to help the Jews? We he spoke out in defense of the Jews in 1943, well, gee…years of the war and years of killing Jews had already been going on. He helped legitimize Hitler’s rise to power with the concordat he signed in July 1933 with Germany. There is very little proof he directly helped Jews, where as there is more evidence that Catholic Officials took it upon themselves to help specifically because the Pope was so silent. He was a politician and a coward for not standing up to his adopted homeland of Germany for fear of 1. Not being the man to negotiate peace, and 2. Fear of Rome being bombed. His inaction cost more lives than his few favorable words saved.
number two on the list is hitler in disguise
jewss
wats up my jews
I can see the people that commented here are victims of propaganda just as I have been.
Watched “Schindler’s List” last night for the third time, and this time, the movie raised certain questions in my mind. I was on the precipice of declaring that a man who was clearly motivated by purely self-interests and greed, self-centerdness, was able to find humanity underneath all those layers of selfishness. It actually gave me great hope for the human race to know that there really is some good in everybody.
It was amazing to me that this selfish man saved more people than the Catholic Church, which that statement dovetailed nicely into my belief system that the Church claims to be one thing but is really another.
However, after reading this list, the truth is not consistent with my belief system; therefore, I have to throw out my beliefs and start all over again. The truth is more important to me than my emotional desires to demonize the Church.
I do find it very odd that the commenters above exaggerate Schindler’s accomplishments of saving 1,400 Jews and yet completely gloss over the Pope’s saving 4,000 to 7,000 Jews as though Schindler’s accomplishments were somehow greater than that of the Pope’s, and despite the fact that Schindler was actually an opportunist who exploited the plight of the Jews for his own personal gain.
So then I am really back to square one with my hopes in humanity dashed all over again. If people see only that which they want to see, where the truth does not have any significance at all, then on a human level, it made no sense for the Pope to save anyone at all, considering he is getting the same treatment regardless whether he had saved anyone or not.
Well Schindler was technically a nazi but he didn’t want to be a part of it anymore.
Jesus, this list goes by who many the saved not becouse they were in the movies!! enough about schindler!! we get it already!
Maybe such lists shouldn’t be limited to 10. I would prefer to read about as many such heroes as possible, especially in preference to complaints about who didn’t make the top ten.
hello sarina
how u been
What an incredible list of peoples infinite feats in the face of adversity. Edmund Burkes’ quote “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing” comes to mind.
BTW Schindler Schindler Schindler. I see more is learned by the public from Hollywood than Seventh Avenue. This movie, “The Courageous Heart of Irena Sendler,” is another account which will interest.
Why did they did “The Schindlers List” If its not true?I was hoping i could see his name first while scrolling down the list.
Pacelli???? Give me a break! Why not Eichmann then? Pacelli was hand in glove with Hitler and instrumental in bringing him to power by ordering RC priests to tell the flock to vote for him in 1933. Please read the book “Hitlers pope”
I recently got an email about a German woman who was hired to do maintenace work in concentration camps and she would smuggle young children and infants out….she even trained her dog to bark constantly so that the guards wouldn’t find out. They eventually did catch her and they ended up breaking both her legs and both of her arms and beat her within an inch of her life…..she did survive and she would write down the names of every child she saved (thousands I believe??) and put them in a jar that she buried under a tree in her backyard and tried to reunite whoever she could with their families once the war was over, and those whose families had all been killed, she found foster parents and adoptive parents for those children. I guess she was up for a Nobel Peace Prize, but lost to Al Gore……………..
my bad, I found the actual article on msn.com and there were a few things that were different ( I was writing from memory) but it was pretty close….
ha oh ***** maybe I shoulda read the list better….ha my bad my bad
They are all really guilty for not assisting in the execution of the adults Jews. I mean read the other posts and argue they didn’t deserve execution!
There is no sign of Abdol Hossein Sardari an Iranian statesman and diplomat who saved the lives of many Jews during the Holocaust.[1] He is known as the “Schindler of Iran.
Sardari was in charge of the Iranian consular office in Paris in 1941. There was a sizeable community of Iranian Jews in Paris when Adolf Hitler invaded and occupied the city. Leaning on an agreement between Germany and Iran which protecting all Iranian citizens against German acts of aggression, Sardari was able to protect these Iranian Jews, whose families had been present in Iran since the time of the Persian Empire. (Cyrus the Great personally ordered the Jews of Babylonia to be freed from Babylonian slavery.) He very strongly argued this point to the Germans and specifically ascertained that the Iranian Jews were protected under these statutes. The Nazis grudgingly agreed and accordingly, many Persian Jews were saved from harassment and eventually deportation by the Nazi regime.
But Sardari went further. Once he realized the full nature of Nazi ambitions, he began issuing hundreds of Iranian passports for non-Iranian Jews to save them from prosecution. To safeguard his plan, he did not ask for permission, and felt that support by the Iranian leadership was implied. His moral obligation had no religious boundaries, he was a Muslim himself, and his actions were later confirmed and applauded by the government of Iran.[3]
Abdol Hossein Sardari has been honored by Jewish organizations such as the convention in Beverly Hills, and the Simon Wiesenthal Center on multiple occasions.[4] He died in London in 1981. In April 1978, three years before his death, Abdol Hossein Sardari responded to the queries of Yad Vashem, the Israeli national Holocaust Memorial, about his actions in this way: “As you may know, I had the pleasure of being the Iranian Consul in Paris during the German occupation of France, and as such it was my duty to save all Iranians, including Iranian Jews.”[5]
Awesome list. <3