Alcoholism has always fascinated me more than any other drug addiction. It is separated in its legality and social acceptability, so thus there exists a legion of alcoholics far greater in number than junkies of any other sort. An entire subculture, one that’s often miserable, exists within almost every human civilization – the culture of the alcoholic. Though I’ve never suffered from alcoholism, as part of my court probation I’ve been ordered to attend, and participate in, Alcoholics Anonymous meetings multiple times a week. I’ve been going for over a year now and as a result I’ve seen a new reality to alcoholism. Though often glorified or embellished, some films offer a revealing peek into the lives of alcoholics. Keep in mind, the difference between these films and other films about substance abuse is the gigantic number of alcoholics in the world. Their lives are legal and often balked at by friends or family as an acceptable nuisance. Whether you realize it or not, it’s more than likely that you’ve known or know an alcoholic. Here are ten exceptional examples of films that revolve around alcoholics. Please comment if you’re a recovering alcoholic (or a current one for that matter) and tell us your stories or what you think about the accuracy of those films on the list which make an honest attempt at expressing the life of an alcoholic. (Or add to the list!)
This movie often gets a bad rap but I consider it to be pretty solid. Though it’s a comedy, the film doesn’t really make light of the main character’s alcoholic state. In the film the main character Willie T. Stokes is a bitter, lonely alcoholic. Willie works the holiday seasons as a mall Santa along with his dwarf friend, Marcus, who works as Santa’s elf. Every Christmas Eve, the two of them disable the security alarm after the mall closes and rob the mall safe; afterwards, Marcus returns to living with his wife, while Willie goes to Miami and spends all his money on booze. The Christmas season that year begins like any other but outside forces make sure it doesn’t end the same. The portrayal of the hopeless alcoholic lifestyle in this film gives you a really bad taste in your mouth. Though it’s embellished a fair amount, the aesthetic effect of the “alcoholism” scenes give you a dirty feeling that can be true to what “rock-bottom” looks like.
When I was researching for the list I kept running into this movie and people really seem to love it. Here is a synopsis of the premise the movie begins with. Two unemployed brothers, Bob and Doug McKenzie, are in a bind when they give away their father’s beer money and then run out of beer. The brothers place a mouse in a beer bottle in an attempt to get free Elsinore beer from the local beer store, but are told by the no-nonsense clerk—under threat of being shoved into a bottle themselves—to take up the matter at the Elsinore brewery instead. After presenting the evidence to management at Elsinore brewery, the brothers are given jobs on the line inspecting the bottles for mice. They take this opportunity to drink lots of free beer off the line; later, they surprise their parents with a van full of Elsinore products. Then, along with some ridiculously cheesy, plot twists; hilarity ensues.
This is a classic cautionary tale. Days of Wine and Roses is the quintessential piece of cinema for warning people of the dangers of alcoholism. It’s often loaned from person to person in Alcoholics Anonymous meetings all over, and is suggested viewing in many other programs designed for recovering alcoholics. The film centers on Joe Clay, who meets and falls in love with Kirsten Arnesen, a bright, non-drinking secretary. They marry, conceive a child and make a home for themselves. It’s then that Joe introduces Kirsten to social drinking and its pleasures. Reluctant at first, after her first few Brandy Alexanders, she admits that having a drink “made me feel good.” Joe slowly goes from the “two-martini lunch” to alcoholism and in due time both succumb to the pleasures and pain of alcohol addiction. The movie is old fashioned and can feel preachy, but its draw is in its honesty and genuine nature. It’s a good example of how the motives of Hollywood film making have changed over the years – it was produced with talented actors, talented filmmakers, and a solid budget for its time, and still has a positive moral motive. It’s a good film and it shows the downward spiral that alcoholism can be.
I wouldn’t say this film contains the most honest portrayal of an alcoholic, but this list isn’t necessarily based on realism. In the movie the late Dudley Moore (a real-life alcoholic) plays Arthur, a thirty year old alcoholic who will inherit 750 million dollars if he complies with his family’s demands and marries the woman of their choosing. Arthur falls in love with Linda, a tie stealing waitress from Queens and has to choose between true love and his inheritance. His father and fellow millionaire Burt Johnson plot to have him marry Burt’s daughter, Susan. If he doesn’t he loses the 3/4 of a billion dollar family fortune of his father and Aunt Martha. But Arthur gets a push in the right direction from his Gentleman’s Gentleman, Hobson. The movie is genuinely funny and heartfelt, despite the fact it can make light of alcoholism.
This is film based on a semi-autobiographical novel of the same name and written by an alcoholic writer. It’s easy to imagine why the best of these stories of alcoholism come straight from the source. Leaving Las Vegas begins with an introduction to Ben Sanderson, a late-stage alcoholic who has hit rock bottom. Trashing all personal and professional ties to his L.A. existence, he sets off for the lights of Vegas on a mission: to drink himself to death. There he meets Sera, a beautiful, seen-it-all hooker. Drama and romance ensue. Tragically John O’Brien, the author of the novel, committed suicide just before the film was to be made. The often over-the-top Nicolas Cage does a fantastically believable job playing the drunken Ben Sanderson and, like many other films dealing with alcoholics, his performance makes the movie.
Under the Volcano isn’t necessarily an amazing film, but Albert Finney’s subtle and scrupulous portrayal of alcoholic Geoffrey Firmin is unmatched in its ironically graceful stupor; is in itself is amazing. Against a background of war breaking out in Europe and the Mexican fiesta Day of Death, we are taken through one day in the life of the lead character Firmin, a British consul living in alcoholic disrepair and obscurity in a small southern Mexican town in 1939. The Consul’s self-destructive behavior is a source of perplexity and sadness to his nomadic, idealistic half-brother, Hugh, and his ex-wife, Yvonne, who has returned with hopes of healing Geoffrey and their broken marriage. It is based on the 1947 novel of the same name, which is a semi-autobiographical account the author, Malcolm Lowry’s, life.
At the time of its release Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? was considered very controversial and progressive for a big Hollywood production because of its brassiness and vulgar language. In the film an associate professor of history has turned to alcohol to deal with his mean and vituperative wife. Early on an acquainted couple are invited over for drinks, and over the course of the evening, the polished veneer of the hosts’ tarnishes grotesquely. The repartees of the history professor’s consummately sophisticate wife degenerate into increasingly violent verbal abuse of both her husband and her guests, leading to the physical and emotion crumbling of the professor’s apathetic façade. Soon the guests begin mirroring their hosts in mutual antagonism, giving voice to buried resentments and alcohol-fueled revelations. Though the films age has made it seem a bit preachy, its construction and acting is more than enough for it to retain its greatness. It feels like honest portrayal of alcoholism’s consequences.
Factotum is a film based on (the late) Charles Bukowski’s novel of the same name. In the film, the main character Hank Chinaski (based on Bukowski himself – a real life alcoholic) is working toward becoming a writer, and follows his own advice that “If you’re going to try, go all the way.” The film follows Chinaski’s various jobs and relationships with women. The only things consistent in his life seem to be his drinking and his writing. He has a more lasting relationship with one woman, Jan who is also a broke alcoholic. As the film unravels it seems it will be impossible for Chinaski to stop ending up where he started, or make any reasonable progress at all. No bother to him of course, he knows what kind of life he’s living and never seems to consider any other option. This is probably my favorite film on the list because there aren’t any tricks or fireworks; it’s simply about a man who is an alcoholic; one that knows he’ll never live any other way and deals with it accordingly.
House of Sand and Fog doesn’t revolve solely on alcoholism, but the obliviously selfish nature of the main character is a common, and damaging, aspect of alcoholism. In the film Kathy Nicolo is a recovering drug addict and current alcoholic living in a small house near the coast in Northern California. She and her brother inherited the house from their father. Abandoned by her husband and trapped by a malaise that has left her depressed and unresponsive to her surroundings, she ignores a number of notices threatening her with eviction for an alleged nonpayment of business taxes. She only becomes aware of her precarious situation when the police forcibly remove her and her belongings from the house and put it up for auction. The movie unfurls as she quarrels with her old house’s new residents while attempting to regain ownership of her home. This is one of my favorite plot oriented films and Jennifer Connelly delivers one of the finest performances I’ve ever seen as Kathy.
The praise for Barfly seems so universal I felt as though it had to be number one. This is the second film on the list based on a Bukowski novels, centered on his alter ego Henry Chinaski (or Hank Chinaski in Factotum). The film focuses on the alcoholic life of Chinaski, who writes poetry and short stories, which he submits to literary magazines. Drinking and fighting is how he spends his nights. Chinaski is officially “discovered” when one of his submissions is published. The publisher, Tully Sorenson immediately takes a fascinated interest with the proudly adamant alcoholic author and his lifestyle, which results in an altercation in the end of the film with another woman, Wanda, an alcoholic who has been living with Chinaski. Barfly is a high caliber film with a top notch job by Mickey Rourke in the lead. You can actually empathize with Chinaski which is quite an incredible feat, considering how perplexing his lifestyle can seem to a non-alcoholic. That reason alone could justify its position at number one, but it has much more to offer besides that; I think it’s a pretty easy number one.
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Cool list. One of my faves was Shakes the Clown. Good stuff.
A Love Song for Bobby Long with John Travolta
58. Kreachure, I’m sure I’m pretty much alone in that sentiment around here (sadly).
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It seems like you have a fixed position here (maybe some unpleasant experiences?). I honestly can´t find the “sad” component about someone sharing your views which seem a little bit intransigent if you ask.
Live and let die
The Bad News Bears! … featuring a climatic ending where kids share a bear after losing, a foundation for alcoholism indeed.
I am an alcoholic and I am the first to admit that, all the people who know me know I drink to excess.
It is sad knowing that you are like this and yet dont seem to have the power to change it or control it…
I’m 20 years old and I think I have been an alcoholic since I was around 15 – 16 years old.
I feel like I am a bit of a waste of space really.
By the way I dont ask for or want sympathy. I did this so I must live with it.
Great list by the way
I assume you have not seen Withnail & I, because if you have it would have most definately made the list. It deals with the subject in a humourous and tragic way. I highly recommend it.
Some list. Reminds me of horrid childhood family holidays spent with a certain Uncle and Aunt and their brood, and some adult cousins of my dad’s. Most of them were alcoholics, but Uncle and Aunt were the “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?” variety, Uncle being the worst.
He’d arrive buzzed, happy if the event (Thanksgiving, Christmas,etc) were at our house,or would be fairly toasted already by the time we arrived if the event was at their house.
These events were always fairly large, 20+ people,but his voice was heard above all.
By the time I was developing into a young woman, he had no qualms about feeling me up in full view of everyone.
The few times we went to a restaurant with them, they were so wasted before the menu’s came, we were asked to leave.
I have never considered alcohol my friend. I saw what it did to my family, and it was horrid.
Whatever, “Beerfest” is a great movie. I think it only would cause recovering alcoholics to have a relapse though. I can’t watch that movie without drinking a six pack, they make the beer look so good.
Whitnail & I is insane.
Beer Fest?
67. segue, I´m really sorry you had to cope with all that, it must have been shameful and degrading. I suppose there´s a lot of anger behind that story
Although as the sensible and intelligent person that you are, you must agree that alcohol was the scapegoat for the real problem (your uncle) on that particular situation.
i completely agree with you about bad santa. i think its a good movie and it kinda makes me sad even though its funny haha.
Surprised 28 DAYS isn’t on the list…..its a great movie about recovery from alcoholism
71. psychosurfer: Yes, absolutely. I truly liked him when he wasn’t drunk. I knew, even very young, that it was the fault of the alcohol that he became a mean, angry man at times. Those were the times I hated him. I also sort of hated my dad,because he didn’t prevent me from being in those situations.
Still, I survived nicely, and I don’t drink. No harm, no foul.
psychosurfer: I think your comment was a little cryptic, but I got the gist of it (I hope). Did you mean to say that you can´t find the “sad” component about someone NOT sharing my views? Because that’s what I meant: that no one else is even close to thinking the way I do about alcohol, and I do find that sad.
And no, I didn’t have any unpleasant experiences that led to my view. I simply decided I wasn’t gonna wait for any unpleasant experience to happen, and simply stop drinking, because I never found a need to drink in the first place. And it’s been quite pleasant so far…
And I do hope I come out as intransigent, because I live in a country that mercilessly promotes the entire culture of drinking and alcohol over everyone as if there was absolutely nothing wrong with it, and as if you had no other choice but to drink and drink and drink in order to have fun. The most popular newspaper in my country, actually, published this week a report indicating that people in my country start drinking from the age of TEN. YES, TEN YEARS OLD. That’s the kind of culture I LOVE to be intransigent to.
Oh and finally, I hope I’m not reading too much into your saying “live and let die”; I guess you didn’t mean “live and let live”, which would make sense too, but I’m guessing you said “live and let die” (like the song and whatnot) meaning that I stay off alcohol while others “kill themselves with alcohol”??? Sorry if I didn’t get that right!
Wow, I love this list.
Bad Santa was a good movie.
When I read the title ‘Barfly’ I couldn’t stop laughing!
Alcohol rocks!
You forgot You Kill Me
I never really considered myself an alcoholic, but when you work in an environment such as the Army, getting completely crap-faced is socially acceptable. I work with MANY, many people who are bona-fide alcoholics, much to my dismay. It really came to my attention (considering that I started getting so drunk when I turned 18, shortly after enlisting) when I found myself waking up in random people’s rooms, having people force me to puke, coming out of a ‘blackout’ in the middle of ***** with some other soldier under an overpass I didn’t even know, as well drinking shortly after getting up to ‘cure’ a hangover. Nothing was worse than coming overseas to Germany, where the legal age was 18 on-post. One of my first few weeks in-country, I was so drunk that I didn’t realize my SGT had slipped something into my drink, and I ended up taking a taxi home covered in puke, drenched from a partial shower I had been shoved into, missing clothes, and feeling very much worthless. I destroyed my marriage, and went through hell during the entire investigation, and tried to take my life. I put myself into the Army’s program for alcoholics, “ASAP”, to help get control of myself. I can now drink well within my limits, and, two years later, am much happier, healthier, and very much loved.
You did have a drinking problem, but you are not an alcoholic. You are what is called a controlled drinker, because you are able to "drink well within [your] limits." Congrats (not nearly a strong enough word, but it'll have to do) on your sobriety and healthy and happy lifestyle. Thanks for being so open about this, and it really is very commendable of you to have gone through the steps to recovery. Kudos to you and good luck!!!
Missing are “The Lost Weekend” and “The Country Girl” (Bing Crosby delivers a great performance in that one as an alcoholic songwriter).
78: Xeygwyn – thanks for being so frank on the list , and to all those who can be philosophical about addiction and insecurity.
I have never found alcohol appealing, which again can make me quite an outsider where I come from. I have drunk, and been drunk, but it didn’t do it for me. Smoking green – well thats another story, but again, I believe anything which is abused will be detremental to the abuser in some way. Best to keep a lid on it.
Most (possibly all) of these movies are from one country. Any guesses? Does that country have more alcholics than any other country, or is it simply that it has the world’s most famous movie industry, so that any movie list is inevitably going to include many (or all) items from that country?
I have only seen one of these movies, so obviously movies about alcoholics aren’t my thing, either.
One snippet from an English class in Korea. Koreans are generally very heavy drinkers. One class was talking about this. One student said “I don’t drink. It makes you holic.”
I only drink when I go to LV.
the big lebowski
I’ve had the dubious pleasure of knowing several alcoholics in my lifetime, including my father (who is waaaaay in denial about all the empty wine bottles on the kitchen table). Thankfully my father is not particularly disruptive, just drinks himself to sleep in front of the tv, and still goes to work, etc.
Some of my high school friends were not so lucky. One of my close friends couldn’t do her homework some nights because her drunk mother would go from her father to her sister to her and back again picking arguments about nothing. While things rarely got physical, no one ever had peace in that household when her mother drank. In recent years she (the mother) has started taking antidepressants. She still drinks, but is no longer an “angry drunk” looking to fight with everyone she sees, so the relationships are a bit better now.
Another girl I knew (with her own drinking and drug issues) was beaten by her father when he was drunk one night. Seeing her black eye and bruises the next day galvanized him into AA, but I heard he started drinking again a few months later. Her parties in high school put me off drinking for years, featuring crying, fighting and puking fairly early into the night by several people. She’d be so hammered before midnight that someone would have to help her go to the washroom, and one of her close friends got quite sick with alcohol poisoning once.
I’m from a relatively rural part of Canada where drinking is part of the culture and alcoholism is common. I’m 22 and do drink socially (and even get drunk from time to time), but in university I was bothered by people who a) felt nothing was fun if it didn’t involve alcohol or drugs (some of my co-workers my first year found me absolutely BORING because I didn’t drink every night) and b) felt nothing was fun unless they were completely SH*T-FACED HAMMERED and puking. I never understood people who drank until they were sick on a regular basis. How is throwing up fun?
I’m Australian. Beer
Not sure if someone already mentioned this since I haven’t read all the comments, but “In the movie the late Dudley Moore (a real-life alcoholic)” isn’t true. Many people THOUGHT he was an alcoholic in the later years of his life because he had a terminal brain disease that caused nerve problems, slurred speech and other similarities of being drunk. He was fired from a movie for slurring his speech and forgetting his lines, leading people to believe he was drunk, but it was the disease that was causing it. He knew people were claiming he was a drunk and was very upset about it because there wasn’t anything he could do about his condition. He drank socially in earlier years but wasn’t a drunk or an alcoholic at all.
Just wanted to clear that up.
-Lisa
dudleymoore.org
This list is okay — thank goodness “The Days of Wine and Roses” was included, although that film is MUCH more powerful than indicated in the summary — but I am absolutely AMAZED, astounded and stupefied that the single most important film about alcoholism was left off this list!
“The Lost Weekend,” Billy Wilder’s groundbreaking, 1946 film of an alcoholic writer (many of the main characters seem to be writers) is universally considered the grandfather of all films related to alcoholism and is regarded today as a must-see classic. It won four Oscars, including Ray Milland for Best Actor, Billy Wilder as Best Director, and Best Picture of the Year. The fact that this was left off the “Top Ten Films About Alcoholics” list which included goofy films that no one has heard of like “Strange Brew” is beyond me. (“The Lost Weekend” also won the Grand Prize at the Cannes Film Festival). Get with it!
Even though its not a movie about an alcoholic. DDL played a great drunk in there will be blood.
Susan Hayward’s performance as alcoholic actress Lillian Roth in the 1955 “I’ll Cry Tomorrow” earned her the Best Actress award at the 1956 Cannes Film Festival and a nomination for Best Actress in the 1956 Academy Awards event. During this era the concept of the female alcoholic was more despised than her male counterpart, with the woman as the perverse and grosteque image.
In the 1980s I worked in the headquarters of an international family-owned brewery, now defunct, We had beer on tap in the caferteria whre it was understood that this was nothing more than a refreshing beverage option. No one abused the opportunity during the day but there were the typical office bar events in the evening where moderate and heavier drinkers gathered. Among the topicsno one liked to discuss was how 90 percent of the product was purchased by 10 percent of the market — the heavier, heaviest drinkers being the motherlode of profit. While that brewery and others maintained strong “moderation” messages in ads nd public affairs events, it wasn’t the two-beers-a-day drinkers who provided our healthy paychecks. Just something to consider.
We Were Warriors is an awesome film. It really depicts several things but the alcohol and lead up to abuse is wonderful… and of course, it has the classic line:
“Make me some eggs *****.”
My Favourite Year, reputedly based on Errol Flynn, Peter O’Toole gives a great sozzled performance, delivering some truly classic lines such as this one for mistakenly using the women’s bathroom. Old lady “Excuse me, this is for the ladies.” O’Toole “So is this madam, but I have to run a little water through it now and again.”
I don’t know if its in poor taste or not to chime in because I wrote the list, but I figured I’d respond to all the “The Lost Weekend” people. The movie was groundbreaking, yes- but that wasn’t really criteria for the list. It is an obvious omission, but not an outrageous one. I think its the movie’s status that’s motivating your complaints, not its content. Most people who know the film will expect to see it on the list, but the territory Lost Weekend treads is covered sufficiently here. Of course people have their opinions and yes, it could have made this list- but it simply is not universally “far an away” better than the movies that filled its niche here. It was, however, the last one to go when I was narrowing the list down.
I drink pretty regularly, 3 to 4 nights a week and usually get a good buzz going and occasionally get pretty hammered. I used to drink heavily and used to get really *****ed off about stupid stuff whenever I was drunk. I found that once I got over some things that were bothering me, I drank less and also wouldn’t get angry when I was drinking. I also found that when my tolerance started to go up, I would drink faster or drink liquor to get drunk. I don’t need beer to have fun, but I do find it has made for some crazy, yet harmless adventures.
I think there is a lot of gray area in the definition of alcoholism. I’m probably an alcoholic because when I have a stressful day or get worried about something, the first thing I think of is a cold beer. However a lot of people think you have to be a bum or be blacking out all the time. Psychological dependence is part of it and then I think some people become physically dependent.
You might not be an alcoholic. If you are, you will most likely find out because things will spin out of control. If you're smart, you'll get tested (there are online diagnostics, if you want to go that way). It's better to know before things get serious. You're right – there is a lot of gray area, but it's worth your while to find out. You might just be someone who drinks a lot, but you really should look into being tested. It is very much psychological, as you said.
The role of alcohol in the olockbuster “Animal House” makes it a better “funny drunk” choice than the mostly-forgotten McKenzie Brothers. “Fat, drunk,and stupid is no way to go through life,” advises the college prez to freshman Flounder, who responds by barfing on his desk. John Belushi’s Bluto was the epitome of the charismatic alcoholic slob.
Note: please forgive typos, I have cataracts in both eyes and sometimes fail to see errors until they appear in big bold print.
I truly appreciate the frankness and honesty apparent in these posts, as well as the fact that everyone else is treating them respectfully. No trolls here, and it shows.
Seriously though, I think the prevalence of such stories (I also grew up in an alcoholic home)is more evidence of just how widespread and detrimental alcoholism is, and in spite of it our culture is such that we turn a blind eye to the damage it can do to those too young or too afraid to seek help.
I don’t think alcohol is evil, but a campaign as common and pervasive as MADD organizes is needed for these issues.
The first time I saw Leaving Las Vegas I literally puked. I was really drunk and the scene of him chuggin booze straight from the bottle as he was driving down the street made my stomach turn.
Good choice for #1. Barfly is a great movie and has one of my favorite quotes in it. “Anybody can be a non-drunk. It takes a special talent to be a drunk. It takes endurance.”
you forgot the ultimate alcohol movie of all time…Beerfest!
Put me down as one who finds the omission of “Lost Weekend” very puzzling, particularly in light of the inclusion of “happy drunk” films like “Arthur” and “Strange Brew”. In those films (possible) alcoholism was merely used as a joke device about characters in a plot which was about something besides drinking; while “Weekend” was ABOUT alcoholism.
As for “Barfly”, Rourke plays such an angry, mean-spirited and loathsome character, and surrounds himself with such wretchedly pitiful fellow-alcoholics, that the movie is very difficult for me to watch. It doesn’t blink in showing how completely alcohol can rule someone, like reducing them to trading bj’s in a bar bathroom for a drink, or being willing to go pick up food for “social drinker” bar patrons if they’ll let you keep the change. “DRINKS, for all my FRIENDS!”, indeed.
I’ve never understood the worship of Charles Bukowski, who in real life was very much like the unpleasant main character in “Barfly”. It seems much like the way the Barfly character was idolized in that “emperor’s new clothes” fashion by chi-chi glitterati who had no idea what talent was or who had it, and merely pretended they saw something in an “undiscovered” talent because their friends said it was there. It just seems like so much bandwagon stuff to claim Bukowski was anything more than an alcoholic failed writer who got a little fame because of his galloping misanthropy and a hatred of anything good, beautiful and decent.
New to the listverse world. Interesting list. I come from a long line of inebriates!
Films never quite tell the whole story do they?!
I reckon they should make a movie about someone who moves through the world with their “Game-Face” on while they struggle with the constant hang-overs inherent in the alcoholic lifestyle.
Love your work listverse!
Still reeling from the Jonestown tape. I look at my children differently since hearing that little nugget!
So what’s with all the emotional stuff here – if you’re a ***** head, you’re a ***** head. Deal with it. I’d love to have the time and money to be an alcoholic. What a great way to go.
74. segue, and 75. Kreachure
I´ll try to be less cryptic and explain my comments in more detail. As a psychologist I constantly deal with people who are in a need to solve certain problems, those vary in nature, but essentially, for any psychological treatment to work there´s a common element: The assumption from the patient about their role and responsibility in the problem, which means that they must stop blaming others (objects, people) for their adversity, mainly because most of the time they can´t change others, they can only hope to change themselves.
This (rather simplified here) theory translates for this matter into: segue- The blame wasn´t alcohol´s, it was your uncle´s lack of self-control. I don´t mean to judge him, neither to justify him, maybe he had a very rough past, but it´s the person who performs the act, not the object.
Kreachure- I totally agree with the way culture and economic interests, specially merchandising, have misinformed and misleaded young people, that´s out of question, but ultimately, the choice of drinking yourself to death is Yours. Alcohol is a nice social lubricant, wine tasting is close to an art, I have enjoyed deep and great conversations which have been enhanced by a Guinness pint.
Alcoholism isn´t alcohol´s blame, it´s people´s.
I hope I made myself clearer, have a nice day
>Though I’ve never suffered from alcoholismas part of my court probation I’ve been ordered to attend, and participate in, Alcoholics Anonymous meetings multiple times a week
Then there is a very good chance that you do suffer from alcoholism.
102. psychosurfer: After reading your comments, and giving it some thought, I can see what you mean. He did have some real issues with behavior, drunk or sober. Being drunk only made them more exaggerated.
Good call. Thanks.
Harvey? Not sure if Elwood P. Dowd was ever referenced as an alcoholic, but his propensity to drink sure was.
Love that movie.
You forgot the cult classic “Shakes the Clown”, which surely should have been near the top of this list.
Where’s Beerfest? >:
Alcohol rocks!
Yes, I am an alcoholic.
WHEN A MAN LOVES A WOMAN
^… are you… trying to be funny?
81. astraya-
it’s a safe bet the list author is american (as am i) and i must say in his/her defense that you kinda have to go out of your way here to see foreign films -it’s extremely rare that they play in theaters and on TV. there are exceptions, like “slumdog millionaire” and “whale rider”, but very few and almost exclusively limited to films shot in english unless you’re at an arthouse theater in a bigger city.
the list author appears not to have seen even english-language foreign films like “withnail and i” but this probably it true for most americans who aren’t dedicated film buffs.
so i’d say it’s a mark much more of our film viewing habits than a mark of us having any more alcoholics than any other culture.
78. Xeygwyn-
i don’t know anyone in the army, so forgive my ignorance of military culture, but it’s really disturbing to me that the people we trust to make life or death decisions about others with guns and bombs are always drunk! i’m sorry you had so many bad experiences, but am glad they at least have a program to help soldiers with addictions.
I made a ***** load of notes to respond to, However, I am too drunk to even begin.
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You were the ones I wanted to talk to. Another day perhaps.
Kazorek: your list is ok, your vocabulary does not impress me. Nice try
I don’t get why you added on “fun” alcoholic movies. There is nothing fun or funny about alcoholism. To some extent I can see “Bad Santa” but “Arthur” didn’t touch me AT ALL (I never got why staggering around drunk and saying stupid things was funny) and “Strange Brew” is just plain dumb.
Try living with an alcoholic who can’t stop drinking – movies like “Arthur” and “Strange Brew” are insulting.
Not a bad list, but you’re definitely missing “When a Man Loves a Woman”.
Also, I don’t like the word “Top” in lists like this. “Top” implies objectivity, while lists like these are clearly subjective.
The Real Deal #114: The fancy word-work is from the synopses I lifted off IMDB. I actually dumbed down a couple because they were so ridiculous. He forgot to post my sources, apparently. The original “Days of Wine and Roses” one was pretty hilarious before I cut it down and simplified it.
samanthaf63 #115: I justified it with the fact that a lot of alcoholics take that role socially. Especially among young people.
one of the hardest things to do is control the urge to not stay drunk. when i get sad, stressed, or mad i tend to tie one on but i have learned and not the easy way to control it. yes i am still miserable because i chose to be by myself most times for one i don’t want to hurt anyone any more. instead of the whole whiskey bottle it is four drinks maximum a night and not all whiskey. self control is very hard when it comes to alcohol. i feel for these people that can’t or won’t control it i know what they go through.been there done that. it took me, to put my mind to it to stop the insanity. went to class and therapy and all the meetings.i have seen myself slipping and have backed off.
there is no justifying drinking when you lose control.