It is well known that China has an ancient and glorious history, from the feudal periods ending in 222 BC through the three Imperial and Intermediate Eras, up to the Modern era – over 4000 years of dynastic reigns. It may also be well known that China is the source of many wonderful and useful inventions from spaghetti to gunpowder. This list, however, will take a slightly different slant of the topic: Chinese inventions and developments that were not known to or adopted by the Western (European) world for many decades and sometimes centuries after they were common place in China. Some you may be familiar with, others perhaps less so.
As this is not a ‘top 10’ type list, the entries are in a (mostly) chronological order of when they were invented or developed. Please note that these are inventions and technological developments and not discoveries about the natural world – though it is also true that in many cases the Chinese scientists far preceded ‘The West’ in discoveries as well (e.g. William Harvey is credited with discovering the circulation of blood in 1628. It was described in Chinese documents in the 2nd Century BC).
The Chinese started planting crops in rows sometime in the 6th century BC. This technique allows the crops to grow faster and stronger. It facilitates more efficient planting, watering, weeding and harvesting. There is also documentation that they realized that as the wind travels over rows of plants there is less damage. This obvious development was not instituted in the western world for another 2200 years. Master Lu wrote in the “Spring and Autumn Annals”: ‘If the crops are grown in rows they will mature rapidly because they will not interfere with each other’s growth. The horizontal rows must be well drawn, the vertical rows made with skill, for if the lines are straight the wind will pass gently through.’ This text was compiled around 240 BC.
The Chinese developed a lodestone compass to indicate direction sometime in the 4th century BC. These compasses were south pointing and were primarily used on land as divination tools and direct finders. Written in the 4th Century BC, in the Book of the Devil Valley Master it is written: “lodestone makes iron come or it attracts it”. The spoons were made from lodestone, while the plates were of bronze. Thermo-remanence needles were being produced for mariners by the year 1040, with common use recorded by 1119. Thermo-remanence technology, still in use today, was ‘discovered’ by William Gilbert in about 1600.
The Seed Drill is used to plant seeds into the soil at a uniform depth and covers it. Without this tool seeds are tossed by hand over the ground resulting in waste and inefficient, uneven growth. Chinese farmers were using seed drills as early as the 2nd Century BC. The first known European instance was a patent issued to Camillo Torello in 1566, but was not adopted by Europeans into general use until the mid 1800’s.
One of the major developments of the ancient Chinese agriculture was the use of the iron moldboard plows. Though probably first developed in the 4th century BC and promoted by the central government, they were popular and common by the Han Dynasty. (So I am using the more conservative date). A major invention was the adjustable strut which, by altering the distance of the blade and the beam, could precisely set the depth of the plow. This technology was not instituted into England and Holland until the 17th century, sparking an abundance of food which some experts say was a necessary prerequisite for the industrial revolution.
By the first century BC the Chinese had developed the technology for deep drilling boreholes. Some of these reached depths of 4800 feet (about 1.5 km). They used technology that would be easily recognizable to a modern engineer and lay person alike. Derricks would rise as much as 180 feet above the borehole. They stacked rocks with center holes (tube or doughnut shaped) from the surface to the deep stone layer as a guide for their drills (similar to today’s guide tubes). With hemp ropes and bamboo cables reaching deep into the ground, they employed cast iron drills to reach the natural gas they used as a fuel to evaporate water from brine to produce salt. The natural gas was carried via bamboo pipes to where it was needed. There is also some evidence that the gas was used for light. While I could not find exactly when deep drilling was first used by the Europeans, I did not find any evidence prior to the early industrial revolution (mid 18th century). In the United States, the first recorded deep drill was in West Virginia in the 1820’s.
Chinese naval developments occurred far earlier than similar western technology. The first recorded use of rudder technology in the West was in 1180. Chinese pottery models of sophisticated slung axial rudders (enabling the rudder to be lifted in shallow waters) dating from the 1st century have been found. Early rudder technology (c 100 AD) also included the easier to use balanced rudder (where part of the blade was in front of the steering post), first adopted by England in 1843 – some 1700 years later. In another naval development, fenestrated rudders were common on Chinese ships by the 13th century which were not introduced to the west until 1901. Fenestration is the adding of holes to the rudder where it does not affect the steering, yet make the rudder easy to turn. This innovation finally enabled European torpedo boats to use their rudders while traveling at high speed (about 30 knots).

Throat harnesses have been used throughout the world to harness horses to carts and sleds. These harnesses press back on the neck of the horse thus limiting the full strength of the animal. In the late feudal period (4th Century BC) there is pictorial evidence (from the Chinese state of Chu) of a horse with a wooden chest yoke. By the late Han Dynasty the yoke was made from softer straps and was used throughout the country. By the 5Th century, the horse collar (pictured above), which allows the horse to push with its shoulders, was developed. This critical invention was introduced into Europe approximately by 970 and became widespread within 200 years. Because of the greater speed of horses over oxen, as well as greater endurance, agricultural output throughout Europe increased significantly.

Porcelain is a very specific kind of ceramic produced by the extreme temperatures of a kiln. The materials fuse and form a glass and mineral compound known for its strength, translucence and beauty. Invented during the Sui Dynasty (but possibly earlier) and perfected during the Tang Dynasty (618-906), most notably by Tao-Yue (c. 608 – c. 676), Chinese porcelain was highly prized throughout the world. The porcelain of Tao-Yue used a ‘white clay’ that was found on the edge of the Yangtze River, where he lived. By the time of the Sung Dynasty (960-1279) the art of porcelain had reached its peak. In 1708 the German Physicist Tschirnhausen invented European porcelain, thus ending the Chinese monopoly. The picture above is a teabowl with black glaze and leaf pattern from the Southern Sung Dynasty (1127-1279).
As noted above, paper was an early invention of China. One of the first recorded accounts of using hygienic paper was during the Sui Dynasty in 589. In 851 an Arab traveler reported (with some amazement) that the Chinese used paper in place of water to cleanse themselves. By the late 1300’s, approximately 720,000 sheets per year was produced in packages of 1,000 to 10,000 sheets. In colonial times in America (late 1700’s) it was still common to use corn-cobs or leaves. Commercial toilet paper was not introduced until the 1857 and at least one early advertiser noted that their product was ‘splinter free’ – something quite far from today’s ‘ultra-soft’. One rather odd piece of trivia I picked up during my research is that the Romans used a sponge tied to the end of a stick – which may have been the origin of the expression “to grab the wrong end of the stick”.

That paper was invented by the Chinese is well known (by Cai Lun c 50-121 AD), and it is one of the great Chinese inventions. The recipe for this paper still exists and can be followed by today’s artisans. In 868 the first printed book, using full page woodcuts, was produced. About 100 years later the innovations of Bi Sheng, pictured above, (990-1051) were described. Using clay fired characters he made re-usable type and developed typesetting techniques. Though used successfully to produce books, his technology was not perfected until 1298. By contrast, Gutenberg’s bibles – the first European book printed with movable type – were printed in the 1450’s. Interestingly, the Chinese did not start using metal type until the 1490’s.





















April 19th, 2009 at 2:00 am
jfrater-
i’ve been getting “Safari can’t open the page “http://listverse.com/” because the server unexpectedly dropped the connection, which sometimes occurs when the server is busy. You might be able to open the page later.” errors that have prevented me from viewing the site for about 24 hours (except for once, briefly, and right now).
was it just me, or has an increase in traffic/something been plaguing other people?
i was sad, i’m a bit of a LV addict
(but you knew that last bit.)
April 19th, 2009 at 2:00 am
i don’t want to sound stupid… but i didn’t know any of these
April 19th, 2009 at 2:01 am
A very interesting list, enjoyed it, thank you.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:02 am
also, how wonderful to see an eastern list!
i’ll specifically comment later -if i can get on the site.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Nice list!
Some say the Chinese invented the umbrella, too. It’s an object that was so perfect since the beginning that has changed very little after thousands of years.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Nice list – you learn something new everyday.
Thanks Stevenh
April 19th, 2009 at 2:27 am
yesterday s and todays list have taught me a lot – very interesting, great research !
April 19th, 2009 at 2:29 am
some of the ancient porcelains mentioned are unrivaled in translucency combined with strength even today.
also, the very first US commercial toilet paper “guaranteed 100% free of splinters!” wasn’t marketed until 1935 by northern tissue! (i don’t know how the europeans were doing with bathroom splinters “down there” at the time…)
here’s proof on the toilet paper thing:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/Story?id=91684&page=1
April 19th, 2009 at 2:30 am
I don’t get why it took so long to mention movable type. You need to understand the result of all being able to communicate to the masses. Arguably, if it weren’t for movable type, we wouldn’t be at the point in technology which we are today to be reading and posting these infinite anecdotes. I mean white people did some nice things, but the more you look at Chinese history; you come to realize that they were way ahead of the rest of the world. Before they kept quiet for so damn long that is.
April 19th, 2009 at 2:45 am
what about glasses or printed money??? those were pretty big
April 19th, 2009 at 2:51 am
what about oragmi didn’t they invent that i’m pretty sure they did shout to my homeboy rascalian
April 19th, 2009 at 2:55 am
I have had the same problem off and on. Make sure that you are putting http://www.listverse.com instead of http://listverse.com. For some reason that is causing issues and I dont know enough about the way the internet works to tell you why. All I know is that unless its got www in front of it my browser doesnt like it.
Also, great list loads of interesting things in here.
April 19th, 2009 at 3:00 am
Looks like the Chinese invented just about everything. Except for human-rights.
Great list, Steven
April 19th, 2009 at 3:46 am
I already heard of the movable type. Don’t forget the flamethrower!
April 19th, 2009 at 4:01 am
Fantastic list, some things I did not know
April 19th, 2009 at 4:07 am
Hopefully the problems have been resolved – I wasn’t aware of it until late in the day hence the delays in fixing things.
April 19th, 2009 at 4:19 am
Wow, great list! I learned a lot. I think I might have been vaguely aware of one or two of these, but almost all of it was new knowledge. I can’t believe that they figured out how to drill for gas so long ago!
April 19th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Chinese food is another great chinese invention
April 19th, 2009 at 5:15 am
8. lo – “some of the ancient porcelains mentioned are unrivaled in translucency combined with strength even today.”
You said what I was going to say! One of my art professors had a special fascination with Chinese and Japanese ancient cultures. She had brought in a few pieces from her collection at home, some porcelain cups among them. They felt so light and fragile that breathing near it seemed terrifying should they break. They did not, of course. If they can withstand centuries of use and abuse, they can withstand a few minutes of being looked at by college students.
The Chinese also invented the bristled toothbrush. I think that is one of the most important inventions EVER.
April 19th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Sponge on stick? Aha that’s pretty smart
April 19th, 2009 at 5:44 am
Isaac – my eyes are still watering at the thought of using corn cobs…
April 19th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Good Morning:
There were many more inventions and developments, of the Chinese that far preceeded western technology. Paper money, the umbrella, gunpowder … but my criteria was (a) at least two sources of information, (b) interesting item, (c) explainable in 1 or 2 paragraphs, and (d) only ten of them.
13:scandal007: Regarding human rights – The Chinese instituted civil-service exams in 154 BCE. They were first used in England and France in the 1800’s. While not exactly ‘human rights’, these exams perhaps reduced some of the abritrary nature of government actions.
To all: Thank you.
April 19th, 2009 at 6:11 am
Very interesting… too bad the Chinese had a bit of a lapse in the past few centuries…
But it seems they are catching up again.
April 19th, 2009 at 6:12 am
8. lo: While true about the advert in 1935, I could not find absolute evidence that the competitive products had spliters. Remember that the ‘truth in advertising’ laws were not what they are today…
April 19th, 2009 at 7:14 am
It’s strange how something like #1, which is so simple, can be so effective and beneficial.
April 19th, 2009 at 7:31 am
About the only ones I knew were paper and moveable type. And I guess I always just assumed everyone knew porcelain was developed in China.
Cool list. Thank you.
April 19th, 2009 at 7:47 am
You neglected to include the wheelbarrow: can’t recall when it was first depicted/described but it didn’t hit Europe for another 600 years after it was!
Also: In position #7, you cite “Harness for horses: circa 200-581 AD”. If the Chinese INVENTED horse-harness as LATE as AD200 – what the #@*% were the Hyksos, Egyptians, Greeks, Persians and Romans using to anchor their chariots to the horses that pulled them with for the 1700 – 2000 years BEFORE the Chinese came up with the idea???
(BTW the correct presentation of date should be AD200-AD 581 – the lettering comes after the numbering in BC dates only: ie 200BC. AD200)
April 19th, 2009 at 7:57 am
They also invented water tight integrity for ships modeled after bamboo stalks.
April 19th, 2009 at 7:59 am
i am so blase… i didnt know any of this! thanks for the informative list!
April 19th, 2009 at 8:14 am
my favorite part of the list:
“This list, however, will take a slightly different slant of the topic”
too funny.
April 19th, 2009 at 8:40 am
am surprised gunpowder is not on this list…
amazing though, i had no idea about about most of this stuff, great list!
April 19th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Geatest Chinese Invention: THE FOOD! yum
April 19th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Tonio: I agree wholeheartedly. This list is the worst i have ever read since you did not put there great food in! (Seriously though, nice list.)
April 19th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Nice list, but I’m pretty sure you’ll find that Korea invented movable type in 1230.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Behold, the greatest invention of all time : Toilet Paper.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Cool list. I only knew of the harness, the compass and porcelain. The rest were interesting to know. Good job.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:21 am
@27: Shagrat:
1) True, I did not mention the wheelbarrow (first described in China the 1st cent BCE, first depicted in Europe at the Chartres Cathedral in 1220 CE). Nor did I mention the segmental arch bridge (7th cent CE) , the drive belt (15 BCE), the parachute (some 1500 years before Da Vinci). Limiting the selection to 10 items required editing.
2) The type of collars used in Egypt, Shang Dynasty China, Greece, Rome, etc was the less efficient throat-girth harness. There is a rather easy to understand description of the history in wikipedia (search “horse collar”), though this is not my primary source it is worth your time to read and understand.
The difference in the technologies (collar as described vs a chest yoke vs throat-girth) are significant, increasing efficiency (and therefore agricultural output) by some 50%.
3) Use of AD. I did not us the expression “AD” as this refers to a concept to which I do not subscribe – “anni domini” or “in the year of our lord”. I my submission the generic “BCE” and “CE” or “Before Common Era” / “Common Era” was used. Any complaints in this regard should be addressed to Jamie – The owner of listverse.
31: Rushi – as noted above, there are many things that I needed to omit.
34: Kep! – the movable type of Bi Sheng was described about 1050 about 200 years prior to the Korean cite.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Wonderful list! I knew many of the items on the list already, but some were absolutely new and exciting. I know that part of today will be spent delving into more of the ancient Chinese culture, which I have always loved.
**lo** I, too had no access to LV for about 24 hours. I finally got access close to midnight last night, but too late to do more than post one or two items.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Great list! Some I knew, some I didn’t but it started me on another quest – finding more info on these and other Chinese inventions.
I love these lists – if I think they’re wrong, I check, if I think they’re right I read more about the subject. Either way I spend many happy hours learning new stuff. Thank you.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:46 am
If I recall correctly the Phoenecians invented the rudder and row planting (or was it terracing).
April 19th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Cool list.
I registered like 3 days ago and still haven’t received my password..
April 19th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Yah China.Thanks for the T.P. I wonder if their T.P had any splinters ? Didn`t know but a few of these. Thanks for the education.
April 19th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Great list
There are several inventions in #5 that I find as remarkable as the drilling.
“natural gas they used as a fuel to evaporate water from brine to produce salt. The natural gas was carried via bamboo pipes to where it was needed. There is also some evidence that the gas was used for light.”
April 19th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Yay for more global lists! Hopefully we can start to see lists about Mayan culture, African culture, Southeast Asia… good stuff! I wanted to submit some lists on Buddhism but I figured that the site probably gets overrun with people submitting lists and it would be a waste of time… I hope it keeps going in a global direction Jamie! The site will only expand for it and flourish… kudos!!
April 19th, 2009 at 11:34 am
What about gunpowder?
April 19th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Hav: email me at jamie at frater dot com with your username and the pass you want and I will set it up for you
April 19th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
my english sucks just like you
April 19th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
HAHAHAHA Grab the wrong end of the stick!!!
April 19th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
What is wrong with the author of posts number 47 through 49?
April 19th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Back in the intro to this list: “…will take a slightly different slant of the topic…”. I wonder if that was intentional?
April 19th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
concerning the passwords after registration, you should check your junk email folder, i got mine straight away but it was in the junk
April 19th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I lived in a city in Korea called Cheongju, which claims to be the birthplace of metal block movable type printing. They have a buddhist religious text, called Jikji, that was printed with this technique in 1377.
My Korean students also claimed that nearly everything else on this list was invented in Korea too, but I digress…
April 19th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
49 segue- Are you really trying to tell me the thought of some Roman dude ruining his day by grabbing the shit end of an ass wiping stick is not hilarious? Cause it is you dumb turd
April 19th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
General Tits Von Chodehoffen: You didn’t see the other 2 comments that were here on this list that got deleted. The posts done by whatthehell were deleted due to content. It wasn’t against you at all. Otherwise wouldn’t the numbers she used include her comment?
April 19th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
While the Chinese invented moveable type–clay, wood, etc.–the Koreans were the first to cast metal moveable type. The Koreans also produce an encyclopedia before Diederot.
April 19th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
good list didn’t know most of these
April 19th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
You know…I am surprised that 3 and 4 wasnt thought up in Europe until 16th/19th century….
April 19th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
#53 GTVC~~Proceed at your own risk.
The wok is a kickass instrument right ?
April 19th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
The Koreans claim they invented the MP3 player, too – Koreans are the bums of N-E Asia, that’s for sure, copying Japan and China incessantly…
April 19th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
58. bigski: I own a wok! I can’t live without it. The best part is that my kid will not eat veggies because I cook japanese and chinese food in it. Guess it’s all in the presentation.
As for the TP…What got me was the sentence “In colonial times in America (late 1700’s) it was still common to use corn-cobs or leaves.” A corn-cob….ouch!
April 19th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
I thought paper was invented by the Egyptians…anybody know the scoop on that?
April 19th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Not to be gross or anything but a corncob would be the last thing on my mind for T.P.
Im like the baby bear on the commercial. #59 why so hard on Koreans. Kim-Chee is the best.
April 19th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
StevenH – given that I have a history degree specialising in Ancient History – Rome, Greece, Egyptian & Celtic; I can assure you without reference to the FREQUENTLY incorrect and more frequently insufficient Wikipedia that the harnessing of chariot horses by even the Hyksos was a great deal more complex than a simple “collar” as you call it. Even the rudimentary harnessing arrangements used by the Celts were more elaborate than you suggest – theiur harnessing was complex enough and firm enough that they were able to run up and down the ‘ridge-pole’ while their horses were at full gallop – something they could NOT have done using a simple ‘collar-harness’.
Face it – your list was incorrect on this one and Gunpowder has probably had as muchy bearing on modern history as Movable type – which was a Korean invention and not a Chinese one (though one could argue that they are culturally connected).
April 19th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
61. studizzle-
i think the egyptian paper was papyrus, made from the beaten fibers of reeds. the chinese version was more like the paper we know today. both should count as “paper,” not sure which was earlier.
oouchan- are you saying that your kids won’t eat a wok-stir-fried veggie because they’ve seen the same wok cook up asian dishes they dislike?
April 19th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
lo: Actually she won’t eat a veggie at all unless it’s stir-fried in the wok. I have tried everything. You see, she is a Asian fangirl. Loves everything Japanese and Chinese. Her room is decorated with everything asian. (I agree since I like all that stuff too!) Before I got the wok, I had to bribe or threaten her to eat a vegtable. But the moment I got the wok and a Japanese/Chinese cookbook, then she can’t get enough!
Today she tried bamboo shoots.She didn’t want to, but I told her pandas eat the same thing everyday…just like the one I had on a fork for her to try…she fell for it. Now she likes them.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
oouchan-
i’m so happy you’ve found a way to interest your daughter in veggies.
i’ve always thought the phenomenon of “picky eaters” (which i know comes close to being a life-altering issue for some people) was hard to understand.
i think that if kids are presented many foods -and cultural types of food- right from the beginning of solids, without being taught that any are “bad,” becoming a “picky eater” is almost impossible.
i guess it’s just hard for me to grasp, as i was raised an “adventurous” eater (with fresh garden herbs and veg as long as i can remember), and have just watched my now 6-year-old god-daughter do the same -and she gobbled everything from sushi to duck confit to vegan spicy indian-inspired dishes as soon as she could safely chew them (well, her dad is a professional chef). i’ve always delighted in getting to try something i’ve never had before, or something “odd” from another culinary tradition (i admit that the latter may be part of a desire to tell “and i ate ….. too!” stories, but it’s mostly genuine curiosity.)
so wok on, my friend
i think a lot of people “decide” to hate foods without giving them a real chance. as you found out, sometimes the presentation and cultural implications are far more important than the taste!
April 19th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I was a picky eater as a kid/teen but I like pretty much all food now. So there is hope for picky eaters, people can change.
April 19th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
shifty, mad props to you!
i mean that in all sincerity
i had a few friends in high school who could have been case studies in “picky eating.” they were mostly from homes where nobody had ever really cooked.
i can understand thinking sushi or exotic veggies were scary when they’d been raised on restaurant/take-out, canned food, lunch-meat on white bread sandwiches, pizza, and a few frozen/microwavable meals (my friends dawn and jennie were exactly like that -both were also very thin, if not that well nourished, and saw food as a boring thing needed to survive, not a taste experience. i tried hard to convert them to new foods!)
seriously, i think overcoming the “picky eater syndrome” requires a not insignificant amount of courage and willingness to risk new (and thus potentially unpleasant) experiences. again, congratulations
April 19th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
65. oouchan : OH MY GOD! I LOVE BAMBOO SHOOTS! Can I come to your house, pretty please?
April 19th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
I’m pretty sure that the “guaranteed splinter free” thing was just good marketing. Let’s put it this way, there you are at the local dry goods store looking at the shelf of toilet paper and one of them says “splinter free” do you dare pick up anything else?
April 20th, 2009 at 12:11 am
mexecution: Origami originates from Japan…
April 20th, 2009 at 12:23 am
70. Ronsonic- i think we’re all in agreement on this point:)
hence my “very first US commercial toilet paper ‘guaranteed 100% free of splinters!’ wasn’t marketed until 1935 by northern tissue!”
and stevenh, this list’s creator, noted: “-I could not find absolute evidence that the competitive products had splinters. Remember that the ‘truth in advertising’ laws were not what they are today…”
so, yeah, even if the competition was “100% splinter free” to start with, they lost out in the advertising game.
but this doesn’t mean other TP manufacturers truly had a “soft ‘n silky” product.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:39 am
about all that TP, maybe we’ll never know!
but i can say that smooth river stones, and equally smooth sticks (used with “the long way” being the business surface) do work. and certain soft pine-cones may be employed, dependent on the local trees and local cone-softening weather…..
i learned this while doing a “leave no trace” outward-bound backpacking trip at 16 (after that i did 2 more). if you pack in fresh TP you pack out used TP, so you learn to live without it….
all that said, TP is a super-wonderful invention!
April 20th, 2009 at 12:45 am
lo: I take it you have had no further problems connecting?
April 20th, 2009 at 8:54 am
oouchan
Re: vegetables, wok, stir-fry
What is with you and turning EVERY comment board into a cooking blog?
April 20th, 2009 at 9:01 am
Nice list! Everyone knows China was the most continuous intellectual and political centre of the world until its lapse during the European expansion. xD
And so it returns.
April 20th, 2009 at 9:08 am
66. lo: Thanks for that! I totally agree, by the way! She used to eat anything I put before her right up to age 4. Then she goes to pre-school and the other kids teach her it’s bad. I really don’t know why parents allow that. Fabulous.
It will take several years of me fighting with her after that to get her to eat just a few veggies with dinner! There were many times she went without food because she didn’t want to eat what I put before her. I am happy though that I now can get veggies in.
69. Mark: Anytime! I make the best Chinese food ever! I have impressed some asian friends of mine with it! That’s hard to do.
75. gabi319: I like to eat! If you saw my picture, you would know that.
I am the product of my own culinary skills. (basically I’m fat!…mwahahaha!)
April 20th, 2009 at 11:10 am
77: oochan – being ‘fat’ is only an issue in some parts of the world; in others it’s a sign of health!
Good list stevenh – and thought provoking too. So glad Mr. Graves got his wish of more Eastern themed lists; are you from the ‘East’ yourself stevenh?
On the subject of picky eaters, I was always brought up to eat anything – and coming from Lanashire, I do mean EVERYTHING! Liver and onions, hot pot, tripe! We couldn’t afford fast food so it was never a problem. Today, things have changed for me. Now, even though I can and will eat anything, I look at the quality of produce in the stores and can bring myself to stomach it. I know what goes into a chicken kiev, fish fingers, pies, cans filled with additives – I just can’t do it. I had a pizza the other day, and they’d put donnar meat and ‘fake’ plasticy cheese on it – eerrrgh
Processed foods suck.
April 20th, 2009 at 11:16 am
78. Lifeschool: I agree with that. Processed foods do suck. I have always tried to be healthy…however, I have diverticulitis and I am allergic to synthetic sugar and splenda. I swell up like a balloon if I have that stuff! I was also brought up to eat what was put in front of you and I want my kid to eat the same way. It’s starting to work.
My guilty pleasure is bread. If I could cut that out, I would drop half my weight. My whole family is like that!
April 20th, 2009 at 11:35 am
53. General Tits Von Chodehoffen:
There had been, previously, an extra comment of extreme distaste in the 27 – 29 grouping, which I commented on. Jamie, or one of the admin’s, deleted that comment, leaving my comment in post #29 position.
Now, anyone with an ounce of logic and sense would have figured that one out for themselves, but you aren’t just anyone.
April 20th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
what? no gunpowder?
April 20th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
80 segue- Well maybe if you had an ounce of logic you would have realized that they would have been deleted leaving my comment, pointing out something hilarious, under your scrutiny. In closing STFU you overgrown dingleberry.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
79. oouchan
Drop bread?
Easy, just replace it with pasta, potatoes, corn, etc.
(just kidding – speaking as a carb fiend)
April 20th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
83. TEX: hahaha! I would…but pasta is just as bad.
(It doesn’t stop me from eating it though!)
April 20th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
They invented silk also. They didn’t technically invent it but they were the first to weave it into fabric.
April 20th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Oh and dont forget Kung Fu!!!
April 20th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
jfrater-
yes, no more dropped connections. thanks for whatever you fixed
April 20th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Hey – There’s a food topic for ya. Didn’t the Chinese invent pasta of some form??
April 20th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Didn’t they invent pizza?
April 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Whoever invented pizza has my un dieing love.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
So I cain`t spell.Sue me.
April 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
What about Traditional Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture? The Chinese were the first to write down medical complications to be treated with herbs and needles and still in use today!
April 20th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Great list stevenh, keep it going! Nice work on “wrong end of the stick”!
April 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Great list! But with #70 I think the “splinter free” bit simply exemplifies the commercial hype of the day, in the US. An equivalent hype in the same period was one of the companies using albacore as tuna, and saying “Guaranteed not to turn pink in the can!”
=Eric
April 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
They may or may not be Chinese inventions. The most you can say is the Chinese were the first to write down these ideas and have the record survive to the present day.
April 21st, 2009 at 4:15 am
My favorite inventions by the Chinks are fried rice and sweet and sour chicken, the Far East Massage Parlor and of course chinese checkers.
April 21st, 2009 at 8:32 am
Wow…..Guess I haven’t been appreciating toilet paper as much as I should have. Speaking of which………
April 21st, 2009 at 8:45 am
90. bigski
You and I are truly copasetic. I have always held that pizza is proof for the existence of god (or whoever), that and the female form.
– many happy endings to all
April 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
I hear ya.
April 21st, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Wow, thanks for putting together this list. As a student of western Art History and History I was unaware of many of these things.
April 21st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Naku po! Ang tindi ng mga Chinoy – The Good Government
P.S. Hinding hindi kami TITIKLOP
April 21st, 2009 at 8:47 pm
What a great list
63. Shagrat you know I was wondering what people did with all their used “corn cobs” after “wiping” apparently you gather them and stick them up your ass! What a loser!
April 21st, 2009 at 9:44 pm
102. Beth29-
you think that someone having a real-world expertise in ancient eastern studies means they have a stick/corn-cob up their ass?
yeah, the comment was pretentious, but it did have some good info in it. let’s not all be calling each other “losers” unless we can back it up, hmmm?
April 23rd, 2009 at 1:56 am
Excellent list!
And yeah, the omission of gunpowder is quite a surprise..
(“spaghetti”?!.. not from Italy???)
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Wow!! Smart bunch of people …:)
@Whatever
Umbrella was invented in ancient India. To protect from sun.
April 25th, 2009 at 12:36 am
amazingly interesting and informative list..didn know about the toiletpaper always thought of it as a western concept
May 5th, 2009 at 7:59 am
nice going with the toilet paper… its really nice too have….
May 9th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Christina Boyle is good girl
May 9th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
It was the Han dynasty: an inventor who made the first earthquake machine two thousand yrs ago, also the water wheel, interlocking gears, clocks and astronomical waterworks, gunpowder, cannons, clockwork puppets etc.etc.
Great lists!! I’ve become addicted!!
May 18th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
An interesting list however the author should be aware that many of these inventions are unlikely to be Chinese. Spaghetti was a Moorish invention based on Roman linguini. The compass is middle eastern in origin. Though they had useful farming implements the tool you have described as a seed drill could never have functioned as such. It’s notoriously difficult to trace inventions prior to about 700 years ago but the evidence given for many of these artifacts comes from flimsy evidence such as a vague line of text or an unclear picture. For example, the Chinese claim to have invented football as there is an image of what looks like a ball possibly being kicked by a person in formal dress robes. Hmmmm. Row planting and rudders probably pre-date Chinese civilization and were likely brought from Indus valley civilizations. The iron plough is likely to be Chinese because metallurgy developed far earlier in the far east. I am no chemist but a chemistry article I read said that iron in the far east contains far more oxide which allows for a far lower melting temperature than usual. Hence the importance of bronze and iron age. There seems to be a drive to portray the Chinese as great inventors but there just isn’t much evidence and I very much doubt if it was ever so.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
to the william g. The mp3 player was invented by a British guy called Kane Kramer in 1979. It was far too early, before the technology had caught up so he couldn’t sell his idea. He kept the patent hoping to make a killing and stopping anyone else developing it but in the 1990’s Korean companies who don’t much care for patents started producing their own version. This is the basis for their ‘claim’. Kramer realizing he could never compete let the patent slip so that the big companies could have a chance. Which is why the big companies where so slow in picking up on the mp3 players.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
to Doc Roc – Diderot did not ‘invent’ the encyclopedia. The idea has been around for ages, probably since before recorded history. The Roman Pliny the Elder wrote one. However, Diderot’s encyclopedia was vastly superior to anything that went before for he is often ‘honoured’ with title of inventor of the encyclopedia. The same is true of Samuel Johnson’s dictionary. It wasn’t the first but it was revolutionary.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
To Shagrat – I can’t comment on the Celtic harnesses for horses it does seem that this invention, like many others, was invented in several different places independently. Necessity being the mother of invention. The Celtic race were outstandingly inventive. As for movable type, that is definitely a Chinese invention. The Koreans improved it by using metal movable type whereas the Chinese only used wood. A small but important improvement. Movable type and gunpowder are two lesser know Chinese inventions because they were of little use to the Chinese. There wasn’t the demand for literature that was created by the reformation in Europe; gunpowder was mostly useless until key improvements were made by the French in the hundred years war that allowed it to be used against armies not just fortifications.
May 18th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
P.S. Don’t shag rats. They carry diseases.
May 19th, 2009 at 10:18 am
wwwwwwwww
May 19th, 2009 at 10:18 am
last name
June 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
“The Chinese instituted civil-service exams in 154 BCE.”
Wow. That’s the best you can do when a guy points out the millennian history of Chinese subjugation?
Perhaps it’s time for someone to make a list of the top-ten most despotic Chinese emperors.
June 8th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Huray for Chinese ingenuity! Unfortunately, the current state of Chinese toilet paper sadly lags behind the softness of US toilet paper. The stuff you find even in people’s homes is dismally inadequate…
June 9th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
And fireworks! Don’t forget fireworks!
June 13th, 2009 at 9:28 am
toilet paper??? Yuck, switch to water
June 15th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Woah, I never knew the Chinese invented toilet paper…
July 18th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Ancient Chinese Inventions By Discovery Science Channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=573NueCBDLA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQLQofU8970&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0itXKiY1_s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q25FCLHQciw&feature=related
July 18th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
China Syndrome
An Internet guide to the technological wonders of the Middle Kingdom
http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/naturenet/031228/china-syndrome
August 21st, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Another one that nobody has mentioned is pi. Okay not really an invention, and they didn’t call it “pi”, but the Chinese mathmatician Zu Chong Zhi was the first to calculate pi to be somewhere between 3.1415926 and 3.1415927.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am
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i represent rosemore middle school whitehall ohio
November 7th, 2009 at 11:14 am
this is not a good website for answers
November 18th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
sucks that i have to do a 5 paraghrap essay it fucken sucks