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When some people think of bikers they most often think of the stereotypical of dirty, leather clad men with shaggy beards covered in road dust riding around the country wreaking havoc and getting into barroom brawls. The truth is that most bikers are not rowdy trouble-makers and are in fact honest, law-abiding, hard working people.
However, there are small numbers of bikers who refer to themselves as “1%ers”. “One percenter” motorcycle gangs have been given this label because it is purported within motorcycle club circles that 99% of all bikers live within the boundaries of the law. Then there is the other 1% who rejects main-stream norms and live outside of the law, often engaging in highly criminal activity. This list takes a look at 10 American “1%er” biker gangs and highlights some of each gang’s alleged criminal activity.
It is important to note that although some of the members of these motorcycle clubs/gangs have been arrested, tried and convicted of various crimes not every member of the following clubs engage in criminal acts.
The Vagos Motorcycle Club was started in San Bernardino, CA in the 1960’s. Members of the club often wear green and bear a patch of the Norse god Loki riding a motorcycle. The club has approximately 24 chapters spread across the western United States in states such as Arizona and Nevada and also 3 in Mexico.
The Vagos have been the subject of several investigations by the FBI and the ATF for illegal activity such as the production and distribution of methamphetamine, murder, money laundering and weapons violations. A highly coordinated investigation in March of 2006 led to the arrests of 25 Vagos members and their associates in what has been labeled as the largest investigation in Southern California’s history.
This particular motorcycle gang was started in the state of Oregon in the late 1960’s. Their patch consists of an ankh, an ancient Egyptian symbol in the shape of a cross, in the center of a motorcycle rim and tire. All of their chapters, with the exception of one in Vancouver, Canada, are located within the state of Oregon.
On May 2, 2007, three members of The Free Souls Motorcycle Club were arrested and charged with various crimes. Amongst the evidence were illegal drugs, weapons and stolen motorcycles all of which were seized as part of the investigation and arrests.
Founded in San Antonio, TX in 1966 The Bandidos are among the more notorious of American Motorcycle Clubs. The gang’s patch bears a cartoon-ishly obese Mexican wearing a large sombrero and carrying a machete in one hand and a pistol in the other. The colors of gold and red were adopted as the club’s colors due to the fact that their founder was a former Vietnam Marine veteran. The Bandidos have around 90 chapters spread across the U.S. alone, but they have also branched out as far as Asia, Germany and Australia.
The Bandidos gang has a long and brutal history of illegal activity. A member of The Bandidos was arrested, tried and convicted of the 2006 murder of a well known flyweight boxer and a member of the rival Hell’s Angels Motorcycle Club was sniped while leaving a restaurant in March of that same year during The Bandidos 40th Anniversary of the clubs annual birthday celebration. Police suspect that members of The Bandidos are responsible for the murder. Other members have been arrested from anything from murder to drugs and illegal weapons possession as well as assault and racketeering charges.
The Highwaymen were formed in Detroit, MI in 1954. Their chapters have spread across the state of Michigan as well as other U.S. states and have reached as far as Norway and England. Their club colors are black and silver and their insignia is a winged skeleton wearing a motorcycle cap and a leather jacket. The Highwaymen also have their own mottos which are: “Highwaymen Forever, Forever Highwaymen” and “Yea, though we ride the highways in the shadows of death, we fear no evil, for we are the most evil mother fuckers on the highway.”
Despite being the largest motorcycle club in the city of Detroit, they are not acknowledged in the Detroit Federation of Motorcycle Clubs due to their violent and criminal reputation. In May 2007, after a two year investigation into the gang’s activities, the FBI raided homes and chapter clubhouses resulting in the arrests of 40 Highwaymen and associates. The charges included insurance and mortgage frauds, murder for hire, cocaine trafficking, police corruption and racketeering.
The Warlocks were founded in 1967 in Philadelphia, PA and gained a large number of members after the end of the Vietnam War. Consisting only of white males, The Warlocks have spread through the state of Pennsylvania and a good portion of the northeastern United States and also have chapters in the southeast United States as well as overseas in Germany and England. Their club colors are red and white and they use the Greek mythological figure of a winged Harpy as their insignia. Members often adorn themselves and their vests with white supremacy insignia as well.
In 2008, Tommy Zaroff, a former President of the Bucks County, PA chapter was arrested on suspicion of possessing 10 pounds of methamphetamine. In October of the same year four members of The Warlocks were arrested and charged with producing, transporting and distributing methamphetamine throughout Berks and Montgomery Counties in Pennsylvania. It is alleged that they sold over 500 lbs. of methamphetamine worth approximately $9 million.
The Sons of Silence are another “1%er” motorcycle gang that was founded in Niwot, Colorado in 1966 and featured in a 2009 episode of Gangland on The History Channel. Since 1966 The Sons of Silence have spread across the United States, with concentrations in the eastern U.S. They also have several chapters spread throughout Germany.
The Sons of Silence have adopted the motto “Donec Mors Non Seperat”, which is Latin for “Until Death Separates Us”. The club patch has been adopted from the American Eagle logo used by the Budweiser beer company and bears an eagle superimposed over the letter A with their motto underneath.
In October of 1999, 37 members of the Sons of Silence were arrested on drug trafficking and illegal weapons charges during one of Denver’s largest federal undercover operations. During the raids, The ATF seized 20 lbs. of methamphetamine, 35 firearms, four hand grenades, 2 silencers as well as cash and motorcycles.
The Outlaw Motorcycle Club is one of the more notorious and oldest clubs on this list. The gang started in Matilda’s Bar on old Route 66 in McCook, IL in 1935. Using the insignia on Marlon Brando’s leather jacket in The Wild One as inspiration, the club adopted the skull with cross pistons as their official club patch. Since the club began over 70 years ago their chapters have spread widely across the United States and have been well established in Australia, Asia, Europe and North and South America.
Harry Joseph Bowman, The World Leader of The American Outlaw Association (A.O.A.), was the international president of The Outlaws Motorcycle Club and presided over 30 chapters in the U.S. and 20 chapters in 4 other countries until he was sent to prison for 3 murders in 1999 after being on the F.B.I’s Top 10 Most Wanted Fugitive list in 1998. Across the globe members of The Outlaws have been suspected, arrested, tried and convicted of countless crimes from prostitution, trafficking in narcotics and stolen goods, arms dealing, extortion and murder.
The Pagans formed in Maryland in 1959 and by 1965 had expanded rapidly. Their patch depicts the Norse fire giant Surtr sitting on the sun wielding a sword with the word Pagans in red, white and blue. Members are known to wear their patches on cut-off denim jackets with accompanying white supremacist and Nazi insignia patches. The club’s members have also been seen with tattoos of ARGO (Ar Go Fuck Yourself) and NUNYA (Nun’Ya Fuckin’ Business). Their territory seems to be confined strictly to the eastern coast in the United States.
Aside from their history of violent rivalry with the notorious Hell’s Angels Motorcycle Club, The Pagans have been associated with numerous crimes including murder, arson, drug smuggling and have been linked to organized crime in the upper northeastern United States. In February of 2002, seventy-three members of The Pagans Motorcycle Club were arrested in Long Island, NY after violence erupted at a motorcycle and tattoo ball. The Pagans allegedly went to the ball specifically to confront members of The Hell’s Angels MC resulting in 10 wounded bikers and one murdered Pagan member. Then in 2005, members of The Pagans allegedly shot and killed the Vice-President of the Philadelphia Chapter of The Hell’s Angels.
The Mongols, also known as Mongol Nation or Mongol Brotherhood, were formed in 1969 in Montebello, California from Hispanic bikers who were refused entry into The Hell’s Angels MC due to their race. Their colors are black and white and their insignia bears the name Mongols in large black letters above a pony-tail sporting man riding a motorcycle wearing a leather vest and sunglasses while carrying a scimitar or cutlass. Mongol chapters are concentrated in the western United States, but have also opened in Canada, Mexico and Italy.
In 2008, the ATF coordinated a sting against The Mongols MC where 4 agents went undercover to become fully patched members while gaining intelligence about the gang’s activities. This operation resulted in 38 arrests including the arrest of the club’s president, Ruben “Doc” Cavazos. As part of the operation 160 search warrants were served and 110 arrest warrants were carried out. As part of the operation, members of The Mongols MC are now prohibited by law from the use of the Mongol MC logo and insignia including wearing the patches on vests or any other garb.
Probably the most well known American biker gang, The Hell’s Angels have a long and thorough history on American highways. Much information concerning their origins is hazy due to their long-standing code of secrecy. Sometime within the 1940’s or 1950’s in California Hell’s Angels MC was formed. Their insignia is the “death’s head” logo which is copied from the insignia of the 85th Fighter Squadron and the 552nd Medium Bomber Squadron. Red lettering over white backgrounds stands for the club’s colors. With so much popularity, Hell’s Angels chapters have sprung up across the Untied States as well as Russia and New Zealand and the continents of North America, South America, Europe and Australia.
The Hell’s Angels MC have gained mass notoriety in the U.S. due to their involvement in many highly publicized run-ins with the law and rival biker gangs. The most note-worthy of publicized events happened during the Altamont Free Concert at Altamont Speedway in December of 1969 where it is alleged that The Rolling Stones hired members of The Hell’s Angels to stand-in as bodyguards for the band. Violence erupted in the crowd and also onto the performance stage and as a result one male was stabbed to death after brandishing a pistol.
Another publicized incident occurred in Laughlin, Nevada in Harrah’s Casino and Hotel. A violent confrontation in the casino between rival Mongols MC resulted in one fatally stabbed Mongol gang member and two fatally shot Hell’s Angels members.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:38 am
Interesting list, never knew much about biker gangs until now
August 18th, 2009 at 1:39 am
I had only heard of the Hells Angels, but then I’m from Britain which probably explains it.
Love their bikes though, Can’t beat a good Harley xD
August 18th, 2009 at 1:41 am
No Schwin??
August 18th, 2009 at 1:55 am
I must say, number 1 was no surprise.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:58 am
Got me thinking if there are notorious bike gangs here in the Philippines … oh wait, there’s the MMDA…
August 18th, 2009 at 1:59 am
@Darren (2): I’m with you there…only knew about # 1… bred Londoner lol!
August 18th, 2009 at 2:02 am
The only thing i know about hells angels is that i dont ill ever get red wings but i would like to get some day black ones:)))
August 18th, 2009 at 2:03 am
I am from Bucks County (#6) and have def heard of them and remember this story.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:15 am
You know what, bikers brotherhood, should be on that list. and also trio boys, the most notorious bike gang in the world.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:48 am
Cool list, Only ever heard of Hell’s Angels.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:53 am
What?! No Sons of Anarchy? They’re pretty well known!
August 18th, 2009 at 3:09 am
nice list! i had never heard of #’s 7, 9, or 10 before. but the rest have all been featured on the history channel.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:18 am
Hmmm makes me want to start watching Sons of Anarchy
August 18th, 2009 at 3:29 am
Cool list! Bikers are the gods of the roads
August 18th, 2009 at 3:38 am
What? No Gypsy Jokers?
August 18th, 2009 at 4:08 am
Not being from the US I’d only heard of 1 and 2. I don’t usually bother pointing out spelling/grammar mistakes but I had to laugh when I read ‘Untied States’ in number 1. Hehehe.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:09 am
Really interesting list, it’s this kind of thing that keeps me coming back to Listverse.
(BTW, no Black Widows, or did Philo Beddoe and Clive finish them off?)
August 18th, 2009 at 4:16 am
I would have thought the Comancheros might have been on the list, but maybe they’re not American. Back in March there was a fight between Comancheros and Hells Angels at Sydney Airport in full view of the public. One man died after being attacked with bollards.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7957863.stm
August 18th, 2009 at 4:18 am
Im from London, ive heard of the outlaws, mongols and hells angels. Thats it , interesting list.
Would of liked to of know what kind of numbers these gangs have.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:24 am
At the Altamont concert, several of the Hell’s Angel’s beat up Marty Balin from Jefferson Starship! Bastards!
August 18th, 2009 at 4:38 am
reminds me of sopngebob’s “The Wild Ones” who turn out to be “The Mild Ones”
August 18th, 2009 at 4:40 am
Wow… bikie gangs are so interesting!
August 18th, 2009 at 4:45 am
its really funny seeing what some people say should have been on this list. it really shows how ridiculous biker gang names are. (black widows, comancheros, Trio Boys, sons of anarchy…etc.)WANT TO JOIN MY BIKER GANG, THE RUSTY PIPES? NO? HOW ABOUT THE FLYING GUN DUDES? THE SILVER LOCKPICKS? THE PLASTERED MAIDENS? LOS CAMPESINOS? DENIAL CROCODILES? yeah…sorry anout that rant.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:15 am
spongebob. sorry for the typo
August 18th, 2009 at 5:16 am
@heheh (24): well, they have no time to think of creative names, but have all the time in their hands to wreak terror.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:18 am
@nuriko (12): Aren’t Tagalog comments supposed to be deleted?
(comment translation: Correct!!! How about those animals of MMDA?)
August 18th, 2009 at 5:21 am
I thought for sure that Hell’s Satans would have made the list.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:22 am
Gee, someone didn’t comment on it’s being “TOO AMERICAN”
August 18th, 2009 at 5:32 am
The Outlaws were in the news a few months ago for stirring up trouble here in Luzerne County, PA.
I have a gang called The Pedestrians. We don’t need no sissy motorcycles. We’re so tough we WALK everywhere. (And none of our members are obese!) Our colors feature a pair of Dr. Scholl’s walking shoes (with metal spikes) and the motto “If you can read this, you’re not a biker!”
August 18th, 2009 at 5:36 am
Robert Quiroga is the fly weight boxer mentioned at number 8. He had an amazing fight with a man called ‘Kid’ Akem in the 90s. The match went twelve rounds with Quiroga winning a unanimous decision. But after the fight Akem collapsed from exhaustion and was found to have suffered a blood clot and he never fought again
August 18th, 2009 at 5:37 am
Bikie gangs have been in the news in Australia over the last year or so. In some of the more notorious cases, explicit criminals are moving into the gangs, or being recruited, to the exclusion of the bikie criminals or law-abiding bikies.
I get a reaction when I mention that my nephew is a member of a bikie gang. Sort of true – he’s an associate member of a Christian motorcycle club. I claim partial responsibility for this; when he was two, he discovered that uncles are good for pretending to be motorcycles. I’d lie on my back with my knees up and hands up, he’d sit on my knees and hold my hands and we’d make “vroom-vroom” noises and pretend to go round corners.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:38 am
PS the orang-utan is Clyde, not Clive.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Awesome list, Brotherman! I only knew of 4 of these, but not the history behind those four. This list was nicely done.
@DenzeLL (22): That episode was hilarious!
@JUNQUEMAN (29): I was thinking the same thing. mmmmm…wonder why we don’t have at least 20 comments already saying that. *shrugs*
August 18th, 2009 at 6:01 am
I have heard of a few of these… Hells Angels, Bandido’s and Outlaws… one gang that is definately missing is The Rock Machine although because I think they were based out of Quebec that may be why. None of the crimes mentioned here by these gangs compare to the biker wars between Hells Angels and The Rock Machine in Quebec, specifically Montreal. Look it up!
Outlaws controlled the organized crime in my city (St.Catharines, Ontario) for a long long time but were shut down a few years back in a raid I witnessed on my way to work. Their club house is still in possesion of Niagara Regional Police. Since then Hells Angels set up a chapter here but has also been raided and seized.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:05 am
havent u clowns heard of FINKS australia
August 18th, 2009 at 6:10 am
It’s like the mob….on hogs.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:24 am
What about Wild Hogs?!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Left off of the list is the Devils Deciples…..Not the nicest group of people……
August 18th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Read Hunter S. Thompson’s amazing book: “Hell’s Angels”. He spent over a year hanging with the notorious outlaws and the stories he documented would chill your blood. If you were stupid enough to mess with one Angel, you were pretty much screwed: get ready to be chain-whipped, clubbed, and stomped by the entire crew that was present.
“Every Angel recruit comes to his initiation wearing a new pair of Levis with a matching jacket with the sleeves cut off and a spotless emblem on the back. The ceremony varies from one chapter to another but the main feature is always the defiling of the initiate’s new uniform. A bucket of dung and urine will be collected during the meeting, then poured on the newcomer’s head in a solemn baptismal. Or he will take off his clothes and stand naked while the bucket of slop is poured over them and the others stomp in it.
These are his “originals”, to be be worn every day until they rot. The Levis are dipped in oil, then hung out to dry in the sun – or left under the motorcycle at night to absorb the crankcase drippings. When they become too ragged to be functional, they are worn over other, newer Levi’s. Many of the jackets are so dirty that the colors are barely visible, but they aren’t discarded until they literally fall apart.”
August 18th, 2009 at 6:45 am
I hate the way people rant on here ” what about this? what about that?”.
What about you say something like ” the so and so biker gang are another notorious biker gang” and maybe tell us why instead of littering the comments section with what you believe to be your vastly superior knowledge of everything ever put in a list.
I liked the list, I learned something new. Can only say that I heard of 3 of these gangs (being the top 3)!!!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Yeah Brotherman! Glad to see you’re still hanging about. Great job on the list too.
You missed the Rock Machine. One of, if not the most violent biker gangs ever to have a presence in Canada. Their turf war with the Hells Angels in Quebec caused many civilian casualties not to mention the deaths among the bikers themselves. I’ve been reading up on them; a couple of Australian members were arrested trying to enter Canada last month. For nefarious purposes no doubt.
We also had a mass murder here in Ontario year before last. “farmer and his wife were the first to notice three cars and a tow truck abandoned in an isolated field outside the village. After they reported it, officers arrived to find the bodies of eight men stuffed inside the vehicles in what police would later dub one of Canada’s worst mass killings.” All either Bandidos members or wannabes. Makes corporate headhunting seem rather tame in comparison.
I’m with brotherman though – I do personally know quite a few bikers and they all have jobs, children, pay taxes and otherwise are contributing members of society. Not that I’d lie, cheat or otherwise cross ‘em – Just to be on the safe side.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:48 am
@Hovito (35): See now that was a useful comment! Nice details!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Apparently the “Pagan’s” are all grocers.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:22 am
wonder if any of them are reading this
exactly how serious are biker gangs in america?
August 18th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Yay! Bayani Fernando for president!
August 18th, 2009 at 7:50 am
@ rufus(45)- Biker gangs are extremely serious in the united states. growing up we’re taught about gangs/drugs as a sort of legendary taboo, that usually exists outside of our daily life. but america is rife with gang activity. there used to be an Outlaw outpost two doors down from my house. can’t say much about it. they played “Sweet Home Alabama” rather loud at absurd times in the early morning, but the bar there was shortly dismantled by the police. basically, biker gangs are typically caucasian forms of Bloods and Crips. but anomalies do exist with black/hispanic/asian chapters being in existance.
they also whip people with chains.
August 18th, 2009 at 7:55 am
This was a cool list. My parents are members of “The Gypsies” MC. I never agreed with their biker ways, even though I think The Gypsies are not notorious and are probably of the 99% of decent bikers. I chalk it up to them having a mid-life crisis. The main thing that bothers me about bikers is the fact that most of them do not wear helmets! I’m sorry, but a bandana is not going to keep your head from exploding onto the road, and it would be even more traumatic for the bikers riding behind them, who have to watch it happen. Ok, coming down off the soap box now…
August 18th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Interesting to see this today. Just last week it took a ton of cops to pull over a bunch of bikersfrom the Gypsy Jokers. They issued 46 citations for blocking traffic and running red lights as they were coming through town on their way back from Sturgis.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:30 am
good list, i’ve always had an interest in biker gangs. As a motorcyclist its pretty cool when you see them or they pull up next to you, apart from all the murders and all.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:43 am
I love the incorrect apostrophe in the patch for the Pagans. haha.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:53 am
My thought exactly, Justin! I imagine the founders of the Pagans didn’t pass the grammar unit in English class.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:10 am
How bout the Hell’s Satan’s from The Simpsons????
August 18th, 2009 at 9:18 am
@astraya (31): Why do you keep calling them BIKIE gangs?
August 18th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Great list Brotherman. You a biker?
@Chineapplepunk (40): I hate the way people rant on here ” what about this? what about that?”.
Lol: “Comment Monkeys”…
August 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Great list, Brotherman. Very informative. However, in talking about the bandidos, you use an incorrect phrase. You said “former Vietnam Marine veteran”. There is no former to it. A Veteran is a veteran for life, not a former.
Thanks
August 18th, 2009 at 9:30 am
No matter where I read about this stuff, no one ever mentions the massive biker war in and around Montreal, Quebec. The Hells Angels and Rock Machine were blowing each other up with car bombs. More than 150 people died!! They just arrested 156 bikers this year! But since Americans don’t care about anything that happens outside of their invisible lines, I guess the most notorious Hells Angels story is about ONE murder in Nevada… ooooo American Badass!
August 18th, 2009 at 9:39 am
@sof (53): In Australia outlaw bikers are termed bikies (pronounced BIKE EEEZ)
August 18th, 2009 at 9:43 am
I’m from Detroit but have never heard of the Highwaymen (#7).
August 18th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Bike Eeez. It sounds so……cute lol
August 18th, 2009 at 9:50 am
The Canadian bikers seem so much more violent than their American and European counterparts. Maybe because they have much less competition from other organized crime gangs up here. Whatever. They’re not lovely lads, they’re absolute scum. I don’t care if they have jobs and pay taxes and have children. They pimp women and traffic in meth, so they can all rot in hell.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:50 am
so we are all clear on the gang name? we are hell’s satans.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:59 am
#56 Nocluestu, before you jump into blaming a no evidence based argument about mindless American stereotypes, let me make it clear that the hells angles were formed and originated in the united states….
August 18th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I was able to get out of that lifestyle (bikergangs). I did love it ,but it was a mid life crisis thing.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:03 am
What about Satans Helpers?? They’re pretty bad ass but from what I hear they’ll go easy on you if u can do a rousing rendition of “Tequila” on a bar while wearing platform shoes. Oh Pee Wee, you never fail us.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Great list – Brotherman, where I live there are a lot of motorcycle ” clubs ” in the country, and they are mainly made up of decent guys and women.
Once a year there is a big gathering of bikers in our town, last year we had approx. 1000 + some stay in hotels some just pitch a tent, but the vibes are so cool, sitting over an open fire at night listening to some of their stories is unforgettable.
Then on the Sunday they have a mass ride pass through town – this is goosepimple stuff, they are escorted by 4 police cars at the front, and they all follow at 20 kms/hr, with thousands of spectators lineing the streets man o man the sounds of the Harlies, and so many bikes riding 6 abreast it takes about 45 min for all of them to pass by.
What a site to see.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:13 am
@55 redcaboose: Very well said, and I would like to add there is also no former Marine. Once a Marine, always a Marine.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:13 am
I was in a club that originated out of Detroit and was able to get out. Highwaymen are alive and well in Florida too
August 18th, 2009 at 10:33 am
@redcaboose (55):
@Syfte (66):
Sounds like you are both vets? If so, I thank you (and any other veterans who may be reading) for your service.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:37 am
I would of put the Outlaws number 2 but not a bad list.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:42 am
@68 Maggot: Thanks mate, that means a lot.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:49 am
@Maggot (68):
You’re welcome.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:56 am
#60 and #62.. I’m not saying that Canadians are tougher or whatever, people are the same everywhere. I hate %1 bikers, they’re scum. They’re rats living on the fringes of society, preying on the weak. I just don’t understand why this bloody war (it was a war, not just a random shooting in Vegas) is never discussed when talking about the Hells Angels and the terrible things they’ve been responsible for.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I’ve drank with a Free Soul member at a bar here in Oregon. Funniest dude i’ve ever met. Good list!
August 18th, 2009 at 11:13 am
I have heard stories of people trying to point out that “Hells Angels” should have an apostrophe and being laughed at by the very members of the gang.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Hunter Thompson’s book was sh*t. Read Sonny Barger’s instead. Much better.
I’ve had the pleasure of being in the presence of many Hell’s Angels members, including having broken down on the side of the highway with my beat up truck. Being a young female, with two children in the vehicle, I was doing my best to work magic (and succeeding) when a herd of bikes roared past me. FIVE members stopped, came back and tweaked the engine right out of it’s misery. Accepted no payment, and waved off my thanks. Absolutely the scariest men I’d ever laid eyes upon, but hands down pure gentlemen.
I’ll support the Big Red Machine til I die. 81 forever. Those colours don’t run.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:14 am
How about the Breed? They’re small, but easily the most brutal biker gang in the country. Their leader, John “Junior” Napoli, was sentenced to 36 years in prison for various offenses. They mainly traffic crystal meth, and according to Wikipedia, police raids of Breed properties turned up 10 ieds, a machine gun, 44 firearms, and 142 popunds of crystal meth in two raids worth a total of 11.75 million dollars. Also, one time a recruit refused to deliver some crystal meth to a customer, so the gang beat him violently until he passed out, then when he woke up drilled drywall screws into his arm, and were going to set him on fire with flaming gasoline expect that they were in the house of the gang leader and didn’t want to burn it down.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Good list.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:30 am
These guys really like meth, eh?
August 18th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Otter – Satan’s Helpers is the the first thing I think of when the words “Motorcycle Gang” are said. I love the scene when they give Pee Wee a bike then he drives through a billboard.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
@Maggot (68):
Maggot, do me a favor and send me a message here will you? I have something I’d like to discuss.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Are there any motorcycle gangs that don’t involve drug trafficking and breaking the law? Seriously, I know many a rough looking Harley rider who doesn’t engage in thant kind of stuff. I would think that it could be possible to have a bike gang that is merely about camaraderie and riding the open road without subjecting themselves to drugs and violence.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
#81: Kage, did you read the disclaimer at the beginning of this list? This is about the 1%. As in the one percent of bikers who are on the other side of the law.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Oh.. Nope. My bad. I’m at work so I skimmed the list this time. I usually don’t do that, and it won’t happen again.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I once heard Mickey Rourke was supposed to play Sonny Barger in a movie based on the Barger auto-bio.
I know its a far cry from the real thing but I love biker movies from the 60’s and the Oakland Hells Angels definitely became famous for appearing in them.
Roger Corman beginning them with “The Wild Angels”.
-”Hells Angels on Wheels” with Mr. cool, Jack Nicholson and that tv batman-like fight scene in the bar .
-”The Hell’s Angels 69″ Barger’s favorite(probably because he appears predominately in it with speaking lines (perhaps giving his best John Wayne impression)) The others like Satan’s Sadists and Psychorama
even the cornball ” The Wild One” and the gay short “Scorpio Rising”
August 18th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
@Clockwork (79):
The classics never die.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Rolling Thunder. Not a motorcycle gang in the strictest sense, but they are most notable for their motorcycle rally that they have every year in DC around Memorial Day. Their main goal is to raise awareness of MIA/POW issues. They do wear leather jackets with their logo on them, so they look a little gang-ish.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_Thunder_(organization)
August 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
just got back from Sturgis MC rally in South Dakota (US). Thousands of bikers descend on a small town for a week of partying, drinking, tattooing, etc.
they block off the main streets and only MCs can park – in four rows (both curbs and two rows down the middle).
it was hilarious and crazy and amazing.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
@nocluestu (72): I discussed it. It was horrible. and by the sounds of the article I read, maybe not over.
August 18th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
LOST MC
August 18th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
It appears that most people are confused about the difference between a motorcycle ‘gang’ and a club.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Far out! My list finally got published! Thanks a lot JFrater!
I was starting to wonder whether or not I would see this list of mine posted on the front page. I guess maybe The List Universe submissions are backed up and flowing in like crazy…which is a good thing. Thanks again, Jamie!
And thanks to everyone who enjoyed reading this list.
August 18th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
“”Great list, Brotherman. Very informative. However, in talking about the bandidos, you use an incorrect phrase. You said “former Vietnam Marine veteran”. There is no former to it. A Veteran is a veteran for life, not a former.
@55 redcaboose: Very well said, and I would like to add there is also no former Marine. Once a Marine, always a Marine.”"
You both are correct. There is one more important thing to note. Marine Corps colors are Crimson and Gold. Not red and gold.
August 18th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
Hard
August 18th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
@sof (53): As digz123 has answered on my behalf, that’s what they’re called here (see eg http://www.smh.com.au/national/the-rise-and-rise-of-new-gangs-20090328-9eri.html – an article about the hard corecriminal element infiltrating gangs). It allows the distinction to be made between a biker (generally law-abiding) and a bikie (not).
August 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
the best list so far and that is saying something considering the quality of the lists on this site ! sh*t i cant believe it 2 lists about america that i like ! mmmmmmmmmm Classic American Muscle Cars and now Top 10 Notorious American Biker Gangs i must be going soft in my old age how can i slag off USofA if you keep putting great lists like this up ? lol
August 18th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I live in kansas now but two years ago i lived in sturgis south dakota and every year theyll gather and fill rapid city and sturgis and other areas with drugs and chicks and violence…my favorite! Gotta love America. My father in law rolls in a club. I love these guys. 1 percenters remind all the hard working sheeple what its like to truly live free. (unless they go to jail) Quit your job, light a joint, grab a broad hop on a scoot and come take a journey thru the Black Hills!
August 18th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
@Maggot (68): Thanks from me too.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
My stepfather was a member of a club made up of Vietnam vetrens. I spent a good deal of my childhood on the back of motorcycles going to family events sponsered by the club. Most of these men worked hard and paid taxes, but still had some fun. A few of these men were big into drugs(meth, around here it’s usually meth)and got into some fights.
But Vietnam Veterens are getting older. My stepfather died 3 years ago. Many of them are in thier 60’s. Makes me wonder if any Iraqi vets are forming thier own MC’s….
Anyways growing up around these guys has spoiled me about bikes.I only accept rides on Harleys, Indians, and to a much lesser extent some Honda roadsters. No “crotch rockets” for me.
August 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
no wild hogs??!?
dissapointing list…
August 18th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
no wild hogs??!?
disappointing list…
August 18th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
The Banditos lost 7 of thier members 2 y ago after a mass murder in Ontario Canada
August 18th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
what about the Tweety Birds? I read somewhere that they are a fag biker gang located in San Francisco.
August 18th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
You forgot Hells’ Grannies.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
O.F.F.O. 1%er $4Life!
August 18th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
The Hells Angels actually sell merchandise. Instead of Saying Hells Angels the shirts and such that they sell say The Big Red Machine and have the death’s head. My brother wore his BRM shirt to a concert one time, a roadie saw it and gave him a back stage pass.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
I live in San Berdo and Vagos are around in big numbers often go at it with the Mongols. Which is why I never wear green when I ride!
August 18th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Things that make you go hmmmmmm?
Ever notice that the single common element of all these alleged “bad-ass” biker associations — other than their quasi-homoerotic need to mount a Harey-Davidson, that is — is their association with narcotics/methamphetamine? These men are pathetic — and their skanks moreso. Tough? Not really, just numerous — in the same way that the Sherman tank was numerous back in WWII: got the job done only when encountered in numbers, but worthless one-on-one. That’s these guys: Fat, white, loser, brainless redneck drug dealers on bikes. Period. End of list. Tough? Yes, but 100 shrieking queens are also “tough” when they pile up on top of you. I think I’d have more respect for the queens at this point; at least they have style, education and understand personal hygiene. Having spent 14 years in the military, I can go weeks without a shower — when I have to. Being a fat, obese, disgusting, fat fat fat fat lazy unemployed fatty with a beard BY CHOICE isn’t tough, it’s pathetic, as in L-O-S-E-R.
Do you hear me, fat white redneck male bikers? I’m laughing at the idea that you’re anything more than a bitch to be slapped.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
@T M (107): Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum
August 18th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
P.S.:
The ultimate proof that this article is nothing more than “Trolling for L-O-S-E-R-S” is the Captain Chris’s Close Combat Training advertisment at the top of the page. You know how they say in advertising, place your ads where they are aimed at your target demographic? Well, the brainless gullible wannabees who believe Captain Chris’s line of B.S. are the kind of wannabee “outlaw biker, 1%, freedom-loving HEROES” who join “outlaw” motorcycle gangs and think that this list constitutes the next chapter in their “education.”
August 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
P.P.S.: I’m a motorcyclist myself since 1995. Nothing but respect for RIDERS. Sorry if anyone fitting that description out there thinks that I’m aiming at you; I’m not. “Outlaw bikers” and the wannabee variants thereof, on the other hand, I’m talking to you.
Seriously, guys, if you’re a “true” outlaw, you’re not spending time on the internet.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
105. The angels have trademarked the 81, BRM and Death’s head logos. The death’s head doesn’t appear on merchandise, to my recollection… It’s reserved only for members patches.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Nice list. I’m surprised that nobody has mentioned that the Pagans were the motorcycle gang used in the first “Dawn of the Dead” movie.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
@Chineapplepunk: thanks for noticing. that was myh first comment on this site and I wanted to try and add something for people instead of just criticize since I have loved this site for a while.
to the people who remember the murdered Bandidos in Ontario 2 years ago, they must have killed the right 7 members cause Bandidos have disappeared here since.
My dad used to be a 1% actualy who ran with Satan’s Choice. He never killed anyone or sold narcotics but partyed with the gang. He now runs the Lincoln County Bikers Club which he told me is mostly rich old guys having a mid life crisis.
August 18th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Just wanted to add one more thing Skinny Ward who is the leader of Hells Angels (Welland, Ontario) chapter is a long time family friend though no longer in contact. When my my mom and her siblings were younger he was good friends with my uncle John. My grandparents being from Hungary had a wine cellar in the basement and used to let the boys gamble and drink wine in the basement. Him and my uncle were actualy banned from the U.S.A. for 20 years for a bar fight in Buffalo. Now don’t get me wrong, Skinny Ward is a terrible person, he’s escaped murder charges twice for lack of proof, but he’s always been there for the family when needed because of how well he was treated back then.
And just so you know, not all biker gang members are bikers. Skinny Ward was never a biker but was involved in organized crime hiw whole life and because he kept escaping the law, he was recruited to head the Welland Chapter of Hells Angells. Very few Hells Angels, Ontario anyways, are bikers.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
TM it sure must be nice to hide behind the anonymity of the internet. Because Im sure you would talk your talk right to their face. Go ahead Ill wait.
But seriously thats a great stereotype. You were in the military for 14 years? I call BS because any military man knows you dont provoke people for the sake of provocation. Unless you can hide behind your keyboard. A real military man knows the difference between the cover(the fat white guys slinging meth) and the real deal behind the scenes shit. All these guys are into alot more than Meth. Including but not limited to illegal arms smuggling, prostitution and pimping as well as basic larsony and theft. They have moved up to cyber crimes as well. But I guess you have to believe you can beat up that one single fat white guy. Best of luck with that. I recommend that to get their attention by flipping them he bird next time you ride by. You REALLY want to see what these guys are up to? Go read some books about it. These guys are real deal criminal familys. Its not about the meth money. Its so not. Meth is for day to day cash flow.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
I know a Hell’s Angel. He’s a sweetheart, but he almost beat a prospect to death for not delivering a load of meth in the time allowed. It’s really sad to know that most “biker gangs” ride “Hardly Davidson’s “. They’re the most overrated motorcycle of all time. Come see the Solvang Vintage Motorcycle Museum in California, which I manage. An immaculate, privately owned collection of many of the most influential bikes in the history of motorcycling. Ask for Michael.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
just noticed, most of these bike gang members are old bald men. nothing bad about it i guess, it just jumped at me looking at the pics.
/carry on.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
i just don’t understand why they ride hardly movingsons/2 wheeled tractors
August 18th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
The “anonymity of the internet” works both ways, hero.
And you can call BS all you want. Challenge me to disassemble, reassemble and function check an M249 SAW in less than two minutes. We’ll see who wins. I’ll bet you have plenty of hands-on experience. Or you could just “read some books about it”, and I’m sure that will actually substitute for the real thing. And the “any military man, yadda yadda yadda” line sure is great, too. Not sure what it means, but it certainly sounds to me like your ass was on the line. In any event, you sound TOUGH, Dave.
You do sound like a man with some experience, though. Meth and cash flow and larsony and pimping. Whatever. Classy.
I would never cross you, though, because you who recommend that I read some books are entirely too badass. I am frightened just by exchanging comments with you.
I am about to piss myself with . . . well . . . fear. I quiver. I quake.
I will refrain from commenting on the badass qualities of the outlaw biker in the future, everyone, because DAVE has me so frightened that I have to run to the toilet to vomit with . . . fear.
(P.S. BTW, hero, the “SAW” stands for “Squad Automatic Weapon”, which is a 5.56mm belt-fed, gas-operated . . . oh hell, you can just Wiki it, Dave, a guy who is as familiar with the World Wide Web as you should have no trouble getting some of that book-learnin’ you were talking about earlier. But I’ll bet you don’t need it because you are THE REAL DEAL.)
(P.P.S. Oh crap, I just crossed him again . . . must run to the bathroom to vomit . . . with fear)
August 18th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
@Dave (115): Sorry, Dave, but you bought and paid for that one. Of course, I probably bought and paid for your comment, but I’d like to call a stop, and in a “let’s be friends, and I’d buy you a drink someday” spirit, I’ll give you the last word. Make it good and harsh, people are reading.
So, now that I’ve come off the scotch:
You’re right, I WOULDN’T say that shit right to an outlaw biker’s face. I WOULDN’T flip the bird to one as he rode by, or as I rode by.
Because it would be suicidal. There’s no such thing as ONE “outlaw biker”; they travel in packs and have no problem with a ten- or even twenty-on-one fight. They take pride in it. Even if you find one alone, if you fight him, you better kill the SOB because if he identifies you to his “brothers”, your AND your family are likely to get firebombed inside your house.
This is nothing to admire. I mean, would you admire the Mafia?
But that kind of common sense is not what this thread is about. It’s about the details of the most-badass biker gangs. Which is why I feel completely comfortable talking about how disgusting they are, and how they are no tougher one-on-one than I am, or you are. They know it too, which is why they can’t fight a man one-on-one.
75th Ranger Regiment worked like that. We had a code: “You fuck with one Ranger, you fuck with us all.” So when a small bunch of douchebag teenybopper gang of white, suburban gang-banger wannabees called “The West Side Posse” rolled a drunk Ranger during Riverfest in ‘92, the entire battalion descended on River Street. We were armed — heavily. We had nearly as much personal & private ordnance on us as the military-issue weapons stored in the arms room. The suburban douchebags were lucky that we didn’t find them hanging out in force. As it was, three of them smarted off to a couple of Rangers and found themselves on the ground, zip-tied, missing teeth and with two swollen eyes each. Completing the story, half the Savannah PD was composed of retired Rangers, so guess who got arrested.
This is the kind of “code” that ignores any kind of right or wrong, or any kind of one-on-one challenge. All that takes to win in this scenario is to have more guys on your side. Dave, would you put up with that kind of shit from the government? Your neighbor wants to take half your backyard, and he gets to do it, because he knows the local Sheriff and they have more guys than you?
Which is why I didn’t like it; still don’t, never have, and won’t tolerate those who do. I’ll go one-on-one with any man — and if he’s so big that I don’t stand a chance, then I’ll “bring a gun to the knife fight,” if the stakes are that high and that’s what it takes. I’m in my ’40’s; I don’t get into schoolyard fights anymore. Fuck with me these days, and I’ll give you bullets. At high speed, and aimed well. If it’s fair for ten scruffy unwashed “1%” assholes to gang up on me, then it’s fair for me to bring Glock. They’ll know they’ve been in a fight.
Anyway, I really DON’T want to know more about the illegal activities of the outlaw gangs. What reading — yes, I confess I DO read, as you suggested — I have done tells me that while the organization continues, the guys in the crosshairs of the law have a way of ending up behind bars. This is fine for the everlasting brotherhood, but not so great for the guy who takes the 10-20 for trafficking and pimping. On the whole, I’d rather not live looking over my shoulder.
These guys provide criminal enterprises that society pays for; I just live and let live.
But don’t expect me to glorify these guys or revel in the experience, my friend.
Bottom line: As a veteran, I might join ROLLING THUNDER, and wear those colors.
But I wouldn’t be caught dead anywhere near a Hell’s Angels patch, let alone with it across my back.
My respect to you. Be sure and beat me up well on the post; I don’t want you to lose face.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
119. Wow, that sure sounds like a ‘my penis is bigger than your’s’ wankfest.
August 19th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Why can’t we all be friends? XD
And as a few people have noted, Biker gang members ride Harley’s because they’re cool. They don’t go as fast, they can’t get up to that reduced speed as fast, they require a little more maintenance, but you can’t beat the sound of a Harley roaring down the street. Even if they roar at thirty miles per hour. It’s still exciting. It creates a presence.
August 19th, 2009 at 1:26 am
Great site, I now have you bookmarked to come back again.
August 19th, 2009 at 1:35 am
This is no joke, I know a one man biker gang. The person in question has a split personality, schitofereia, (Excuse the spelling).
Crashed into a petrol station when blind drunk, big boom,somehow no one seriously hurt bar himself.
Has something like 9 drunk driving convictions, several lifetime bans, but still goes out at times. Massive bald, intimadating, man who is as nice a person you could meet, (both of him).
His other passions in life apart from bikes are knitting getting drunk and fighting everything in sight. The creature is an ex soldier now in his late 60’s from Scotland and has never changed, just a madman.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:06 am
Some very interesting points have been made here, it is refreshing to see that your site gets quality visitors.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:24 am
Don’t take everything you read – here or elsewhere – as the absolute truth.
August 19th, 2009 at 5:11 am
Here in Delaware we keep the Pagans in check. They don’t get away w/ all that crazy stuff here, the regular citizens will go after them. Nothing is badass about a bunch of old dirty punks who can’t fight on their own.
August 19th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Though it’s obvious on the picture, the article doesn’t seem to mention the fact that #4 Outlaws are quite neo-nazi. You can see the SS insignia, a swastika and the words “Blood & Honor”, the name of an infamous neo-nazi gang.
August 19th, 2009 at 8:42 am
wtf, No Gypsy Jokers?
August 19th, 2009 at 10:13 am
@Blake Bishop (126):
Good luck getting people to belive that. It’s turtles all the way down.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:10 am
it’s Hells Angels not Hell’s Angels
August 19th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Donec Mors Non Seperat
means more like,
So long as Death Does not Separate.
or
When death it does not separate.
Sort of garbled really.
August 19th, 2009 at 11:59 am
My former brother in law was a member of a motorcycle gang. His initiation consisted of eating roadkill, doing a variety of drugs, robbing a liquor store and who knows what else. Contrary to what the intro says, closer to 1% of the members were the “nice guys.” These guys were bad ass MFers and don’t fool yourself into thinking that bikers are nice guys.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I live right next door to a Son of Silence home.. 4 members live there in a rented home. Really nice people all & all.. you can’t always believe everything you see on TV or read in the Papers.
August 19th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Sonny Barger is whiny, retarded bitch.
August 19th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I want a motorcycle, anyone want to sponsor me? take me under their wing? show me the ropes?
August 19th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Did you see all those sweet bikes? No? Me neither. No big deal. Just thought there might be some bike pictures to go along with the list of biker gangs…..
August 19th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
This is all so interesting. I live outside of London, Ontario here in Canada and there are a few Hell’s Angels members in court after a massacre of eight bandidos members. They were all found in a popped trunk spread out surrounding a farmhouse. It was the craziest thing I’ve ever heard of and one of the most brutal mass killings Canada has ever had. These gangs are to be taken seriously and not messed with.
August 19th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
li@lightningclash (138):
They were all Bandidos, six men are charged with the murder of 8 fellow Bandidos.
The London Free Press has had incredible coverage of the entire trial so far, here is a link to one of many well written articles.
http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2009/08/19/10514186.html
August 19th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Seen the tattoo…”GOD forgives…PAGANS don’t”…
August 19th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
39 damien_karras
I have a book called “The Mammoth Book of Biker Gangs” that has some excerpts from Thompson’s book. I bought it because my own book-in-progress has a biker gang in it. Also, there’s a guy at my work who knows people who are involved or have been with this lifestyle. He’s answered several of my questions.
Also, this one other coworker of mine said there was a guy in his church that used to be a 1%er and he had left the gang and they made him burn off his gang logo tattoos with hot spoons. On this website, I read that they also sometimes make them take them off with a cheese grater. OUCH!
Great list!
August 19th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
98 Samzilla
Ooh, I saw a beautiful Indian years ago when I lived in California. Some friends and I drove up to Alice’s Restaurant and there was a rally up there. The bike was red and it was absolutely PRISTINE. I could not stop drooling over it (and I don’t even ride). The owner was justifiably proud.
August 19th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
@T M (120): sheeeeeeeeeeeit
August 19th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
As someone who went to high school in Niwot, Colorado, I am UTTERLY BLOWN AWAY by the fact that the Sons of Silence were formed there. Only 4,000 people live in that town! It’s crazy!!
August 19th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
What happened to my post? It ran away. T.T
August 19th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
if your talking Montreal there’s another Hells angels mass murder which not many speak of.
the termination of a south shore chapter by one of the head chapters for failing to cough up 11 million dollars due from cocaine traffic the entire chapters membership was eliminated and only found by the police because one of the bodies floated up from the bottom of the lake they were deposited in and obviously not weighed down correctly.
11 members of the angels were implicated with the murders.
with the rock machine’s war the killing of an entire chapter and several other incidents the bikers in Quebec have killed well over 250 people in the last 2.5 decades. that doesn’t even include any of the smaller gangs activities or the deaths attributed to drug trafficking and not some turf war.
August 20th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Ive gotta say that intro is pretty generous to the MC gangs. maybe in the US they are under control but here in Oz there are constant gang wars and shootings. recently there was a huge brawl in the middle of the day in the arrivals lounge of sydney airport between Hells Angels and Rebels bikers. A man was bashed to death with one of those short posts that hold up queuing ropes. another hells angel shot dead a businessman in the middle of Sydney who tried to stop him beating up his woman. In Perth they planted a car bomb under the former police commissioner’s car and blew him and his mate to bits. Not because he was police but because they blamed him for the shooting death of a member (the truth has never emerged). Anyway, lets not sugar-coat the truth. these are criminal organisations.why else would they have fortified club houses with electronic surveillance. I can only guess that the tougher laws and enforcement practices in the US means keeops them from blatantly acting like criminals as they do here in Oz.
August 20th, 2009 at 12:13 am
let us not forget the ‘fathers day massacre’ gun battle in Sydney in the 80s between Comancheros and Bandidos that killed at least six bikies and one young girl who was hit with a stray bullet.
also heres a few dishonourable mentions not in the list.
Comancheros
Mongrel Mob (NZ based, members of maori descent)
Rebels
God’s Garbage
Coffin Cheaters
August 21st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
A few weeks ago I read a book about the Mongols called “Under and Alone”. Pretty interesting stuff. The book was written by an ATF agent who went undercover and became a full-patch member of the club. The book wasn’t full of much hype, and most of the crimes had to do with assault, occasional murders, meth, and gun charges. A lot of these guys went to prison as a result of the operation. Based on what most of the 1%ers in Oregon/Washington are busted for, they seem to be pill-poppers and tweakers who specialize in car theft and meth production. They’re always carrying guns too. After a sting here in the Northwest the Mongols all disappeared from one local bar. Or at least they don’t wear their colors anymore.
August 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pm
just gotta point out that bandidos should be way higher on that list
August 21st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
bandidos are the second largest outlaw motorcycle gang in the world and the fastest growing too, apparently
August 22nd, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I hate bike gangs they’re a bunch pricks that give all bikers a bad name. I live in Ireland and I sometimes get tarred with the same brush as these c***s.
If your going to ride a bike then ride a bike and look out for all other bikers. It doesn’t mater if they’re Scooter Youths, crotch Rocket Racers, Boring Tourer’s or Harley Pricks they’re all bikers.
August 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Hey you morons- even you Ranger boy you cop loving punk-Rolling Thunder is the name of the Annual Memorial Day Run in Washington D.C. There is no specific set of “colors” for it. Get your facts straight before you start spouting off. Didn’t they teach you that at Ranger School?
August 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 am
#7 Highwaymen: Most epic motto ever. I’m gonna have to write that one down, it’s just too good.
August 23rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
…Why the hell was there a Norwegian flag from the nazi occupation(Norwegian flag with swastika) in picture 4?
God I find it pathetic how some germans or americans (or whatever) use the norwegian flag to represent some idiotic superior race or something. Had they actually lived in Norway I’m sure they’d hate it. Ah well, if their ignorance keeps them happy.
August 23rd, 2009 at 7:33 pm
There are many more MCs than those listed on this list, but 99% of all Motorcycle Clubs are law abiding. This is a list of 1% clubs. Not everything seen or shown on SOA (Sons of Anarchy ) is a true reflection of the biker community, but is one of the closest versions of it I have seen
August 24th, 2009 at 5:00 am
Fodland they probably don’t realise it’s a Norwegian flag. I’m guessing they think it’s a version of the Nazi flag with a black cross on it. Your typical racist bigot isn’t normally that smart.
August 25th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Its called a Reichskriegsflagge and was in use from 1935 to 1945. Not defending, just clarifying.
And before some of you go passing judgment on bikers and 1% clubs, do some research on the history of Motorcycle Clubs. Club and bike culture is based in a tradition and if you don’t know the roots, then how can you judge the culture.
While the outlaw or 1% clubs have grown into whats obvious, there are 100’s of motorcycle clubs that aren’t. “The other 99%”
So don’t be sucked in by hype media and lump them all together.
And to TM….
Some of us fat, bald, over forty, long chin hair wearing, tattoo’d and pierced scum as you call us, were combat vets before there was a SAW, so you might want to check your attitude at the door when it comes to folk like me and mine. We’ve earned the right to live as we like. Ever hear of the Patriot Guard Riders? Or how about BACA. Why don’t you google how much money bike clubs raise for charity every year. And not least of all Rolling Thunder, which isn’t just the run to the wall, it’s a vets rights group.
Next, your theory on a 1%’r not willing to fight one on one is dead wrong. If he won’t, he’s not a 1%’r.
But don’t take my word for it, do some field research.
14 years huh, I would have expected more.
And just for the record. I did 8, my father did 30, his father did 6.
I’m not a 1%’r. I’m a 3%’r. I run with the Original Wild Ones, but I’m not a patch holder. First and foremost, I’m a “biker” because I love to build and ride motorcycles. I ride 24/7, 365 and I live in southern Ohio. I don’t own a 4 wheeled vehicle.
I never used to call myself that, “biker”, everyone else did so I just gave in. Actually I prefer Freak.
It’s not just Harley, It’s American V-Twins.
The motorcycle version of American muscle cars.
It’s tradition. The first Bike clubs were mostly vets returning home from WWII and rode American Bikes. Why the hell would a guy who just came back from fighting in the pacific want to ride next to a “Jap” bike. That’s why no “rice burners” or “Euro Trash” in traditional MC’s.
OWOF
August 25th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
@BlaqueLyst (160):
Right on! Ride free, man. My utmost respect to you.
August 25th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
You forgot to mention the largest gang in the U.S.A. Most of the members wear blue, drive black & white cars, wear a badge & carry a gun. They are The Police. Commonly refered on the streets as cops, 5-0 & Johnny Law to name a few….
August 26th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
i think if you make this list your just asking for trouble!!!!!!!! or just plain stupid!!!!!
August 27th, 2009 at 10:17 am
I ran with #6 in the early 1970’s and wonder if any of the members I knew are still alive? I live in the Southwest now. Brings back alot of memories, good and bad.
August 27th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
No mention of the Warlocks MC in Florida? They’re a completely different entity than the Warlocks of the Northeast (with a Phoenix instead of a Harpy as the club’s logo).
August 28th, 2009 at 11:49 am
Sorry to burst your bubble. The Free Souls are a group of PUSSIES. Yep, I said it. I faced of with them when I was a cop. We won, they went to jail. Bleeding and crying.
August 29th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Wtf no Satans Balls Mc
August 29th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I think most of the comments are the laughable, uneducated views of the outsiders.
MC’s are scape goats. The hard life and hard men that join them sometimes come with legal baggage and the occasional bad apple gets caught. Same with the “boys in blue” how many bad cops or bad precincts have you read about. How many of those precincts been confiscated, or how many have had all members been indicted under RICCO?
Or how about how many “unsavory characters” join the military. This isn’t a slag towards our military men, I’m serving still. But we get all sorts here, some aren’t so stable. Funny they haven’t confiscated recruit school yet.
No the government is loosing control of the populace, spending more than it should, policing our lives into obscurity and it uses articles like this to take the focus off their misdeeds.
August 30th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
What happened to the BOOZE FIGHTERS MC ???????
August 31st, 2009 at 7:12 am
Most Bikers need a good wash
The Leather Fag MC from Alabama are easily the toughest
August 31st, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Why do the Pagans have an apostrophe on their patch: “Pagan’s” ???
August 31st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
All the scum detailed in this list should be behind bars for ever.
They’re just a bunch of scumbags who need imprisoning for life or the death sentence, along with any prospective members who want to take their place(s)…
Then, there might be a peaceful society…
August 31st, 2009 at 7:10 pm
@T M (107): @T M (120):
So much for being the “silent professional”, huh TM?
September 1st, 2009 at 9:45 am
Interesting list. I never knew about the Free Souls until a couple months ago when we found an article naming my husband’s father, whom he never knew, as a member and person of interest regarding a 1999 murder. This led us to find the rest of his family but it looks like we’ll never find his dad since he’s apparently on the run. It sure would be nice to let him know he’s a grandfather and all his children have reunited. He sounds like he is/was a nice man that made some bad decisions.
September 4th, 2009 at 2:23 am
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September 4th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Bmx Bandits were tough
September 4th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Mrs Ambrose – Your husbands father sounds like a great guy (not) A person of intrest in a murder just the kinda man you would want around your kids you must be very proud
IDIOT
September 4th, 2009 at 6:43 am
mrs ambrose he sounds like a great guy wanted for murder / on the run – i’m sure your kids will be so proud off grandad
you must be a moron
September 4th, 2009 at 9:58 am
All 06/15 10:19:46
the HA’s had Colorado rockers, but there was about 20 other guys wear’n diff colors, Destroyers toprocker, bottom rocker Denver, check the shoes, even some of the HA’s had on tenny’s, what’s the world coming too?
ALL 6/16 7:00am
The Destroyers MC are a support club in Denver for the Colorado HAMC. If you don’t know what your talking about its best you keep your C***k S**ker shut. Anyone more interested in the footwear of an MC member than who or what they are is pretty ignorant if not just plain stupid. Next time you see an HA or Destroyer why don’t you go up to them and give them your opinion of the choice of footwear. Then write back when you get the “Tenny’s” surgically removed from your ass!
September 6th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I agree with most of you.Motorbikes are Death Traps.
But at least my peeps a going to heaven yeah nice one.Dirtiest regards.
September 7th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
hmm i’m kinda suprised at the sons of silence being posted on here there were quite a few members around here a few months ago because a death of one of their members the ones i ran into seemed to be pretty nice < i supose pulling into the gas station on a bike didn't hurt that at all
September 8th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Only one real MC in the USA brothers. The little-known “Discovery Channel MC” is the only real 1% club in existence!
DISCOVERY CHANNEL FOREVER, FOREVER DISCOVERY CHANNEL (DCFFDC)
September 8th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
The Brown Rivet MC from Philli are pretty tough
September 8th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Free Nelson Mandela MC kick ass
September 12th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
The Rusty Sheriffs Badge MC from Boston are the Dogs Bollox
September 13th, 2009 at 12:58 am
BlaqueLyst is the only person in this thread even worth reading..to him I salute, honor, and respect!!
September 13th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Hell’s Angels were just visiting by my home in cloquet Minnesota. Despite what ppl say about them they are very pleasant kind ppl. from what i have heard most of them are doctors and lawyers and highly respected people. as for the other biker gangs i havent heard of any of them
September 14th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Starting my own MC looking for prospects to do my washing and a rob a few banks for funds and bikes / jackets etc
September 14th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Willie Wonka’s Chocolate Factory MC is the only true 1%er club out there.
September 14th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Yeah but heard they melt under pressure
September 14th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I saw a bunch of bikers flying colors the other day they were wearing denim vests with BLUE IRON top rocker two cubes with LE on the left and MC on the right of center patch which was crossed pistols over a blue skull any idea who these guys are. Bottom rocker was Pennsylvania.
September 14th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Grizzle LE stands for (Law Enforcement).
It is amazing how clueless some people are. I am a combat vet., a retired in the line of duty Law Enforcement Officer (Vice/Narcotics) and a “biker”. I am not a patch member of any club, but I have ridden with many clubs. Some 1% clubs and some not. The list is an accurate list of 1%er clubs and informative. The stereotyping of MC club members listed by many of you (drug using, dirty, violent, etc.) tells me that many of you don’t understand the meaning of a free country. What gives you the right to judge anyone?
As for notorious criminal gangs try looking into the criminal history of members of the U.S. Congress or Senate. (Democrat or Republican) I personally feel safer at a biker bar then at a cocktail party with suits.
Patch holders don’t pretend to be something that they are not. They give what they get. Show respect and you will get respect. Now, is that really any different than what any of us really want? They run within their own element and mostly do not involve civilians. There are truly bad people in all walks of life. It is funny (not really) how certain groups get all of the negative press and others are spared. As for my experience with 1% clubs they pretty well police themselves.
Now I am sure that some of you english majors will find some grammatical errors in my post, well if that is your thing feel free.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:28 am
I went to Wildwood NJ this past weekend and I stood at a hotel that some of the Pagans also stayed… I had no problem with them at all.. As a matter if fact i winded up hanging abd drinking with them all night long. I thought they were Fun people to hang with
September 15th, 2009 at 10:56 am
i have heard of all considering my dad is a warlock.. i grew up know about all of this
September 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
post #135 – (Melanie):
What do you think about Hunter S. Thompson?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
fellas….please do you homework/the bandidos were formed in south houston near galveston
September 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I formed them
September 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
The Vagos MC are not a 1% club, never was.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
@Dirty E (196): Thank-you!!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Dude. Do your research. I suppose it might depend on what you mean by “1%”. The HA’s dropped their 1% patch a long time ago, but I think they can be categorized as a 1%er club, ya think? Here’s what the Dept of Justice recently wrote (2008) about the Vagos:
“The Vagos Motorcycle Club (Vagos) has hundreds of members in the U.S. and Mexico and poses a serious criminal threat to those areas in which its chapters are located. U.S. law enforcement authorities report that the Vagos have approximately 300 members among 24 chapters located in the states of California, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon and three chapters located in Mexico. The Vagos produce, transport and distribute methamphetamine and are also involved in the distribution of marijuana. The Vagos have also been implicated in other criminal activities including assault, extortion, insurance fraud, money laundering, murder, vehicle theft, witness intimidation and weapons violations. In the U.S., the Vagos are mainly active in the Southwest and Pacific regions.”
Not 1%ers? Hmmmmmmmmm.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
And, yes. The Bandidos (respect given where due) should be in the top 4 (HA, Bandidos, Outlaws and Pagans) and probably #2, for sure. And I agree with the posters who were wondering about the Gypsy Jokers. While not big, they’re a significant club in the biker club world, and have a much longer history than the Highwaymen.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
newest gang in Aus notorious, they a bikie gang without the bikes..
heck this out
http://www.smh.com.au/interactive/bikie-wars/bikiesatwar.html
lot of shit goin on atm..
worldwide
September 21st, 2009 at 10:32 pm
116 Mike with an engine the size of a fist man can travel at over 100 miles per hour..
My old man has a picture of a 1920 sumthin Norton it clocked 180mph in 1936, onsuspenion it had was springs under the seat..
Bangin!!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:34 pm
sorry for typo..
only suspension
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:26 am
I want to start a club called the “Heck’s Angels” but I’m afraid the Hells Angels will balk at my suggestion.
Hmmm… Maybe I could form one called the “In-Laws” instead…
September 24th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Im with you BlaqueLyst, well put. Its people like TM why we have these 1%er biker gangs. They cant stand the sh*t talkin sterotyping that people give them. They just like making their presence known. I started a small biker gang of my own, we love to ride and can get a little rowdy and cause havoc but that doesnt make us bad people. We live for the freedom that riding can give you. We like to live on the edge.
We call ourselves the “SMALL TOWN MAFIA” aka STM. We ride for those above!!
September 24th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
I think if you use the excuse all clubs have bad people
You are a fool that does not understand the meaning of the word PERCENT. 1 out of 100 is 1 percent understand? THE Hells angels in the USA seem to have a very large percent of members harming molesting and murdering women and children.
I cannot think of any club gang etc priest Etc that has a higher PERCENT of members then USA hells angels that molest harm and murder women and children UNDERSTand?
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/bridgewater-nj/TEE9A849K3QUG7KR8
A Hells Angel left from work one Friday afternoon. But, being payday, instead of going home, he stayed out the entire weekend partying with the boys and spending his entire paycheck.
When He finally appeared at home, Sunday Night, he was confronted by a very angry boyfriend and was barraged for nearly two hours with a tirade befitting his actions.
Finally his man stopped the nagging and simply said to him, “How would you like it if you didn’t see me for two or three days?”
To which he replied. “That would be fine with me.”
Monday went by and he didn’t see his man. Tuesday and Wednesday came and went with the same results.
Come Thursday, the swelling went down just enough where he could see him a little out of the corner of his left eye.
Archie what would you do with out your gang jacket in jail? I bet you will steal the labels off the frozen chickens in jail and stick them on your backside for advertisement. Good luck Angel LOL
Archie scaffer the Cowardly Chicken head hells angels said LOL do you know who I am. That SOUNDS JUst like A Coward Punk Hells angel always trying to use the gang name to scare people because without the gang name the hells angel members are just out of shape punk cowards that know one would be scared of.
Make believe jail conversation with Archie Scaffer hells angel chicken head and Bubba LOL . See this LOL do you know who I am WHAAA LOL . I am a frozen chicken but you can take me back to your cell Bubba and thaw me out and then stuff me LOL LOL. You Hells angels are funny as hell LOL LOL
Hells angels are chicken heads Gone wild.
September 26th, 2009 at 3:13 am
your all a bunch of punks,,, none of you would have the balls to say what your saying face to face w/ me or any other 1%er Joker 1%er va.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:31 am
I agree wit JOKER 1%ER.
Being a prezident of my club wit 15yrs ridin kno that anyone stupid enough to talk shit will get delt with accordingly. especially talkn shit to/about a 1% club. yall are fools. you hide behind your cpu screens but if yall were face to face with a 1%ER i highly doubt you’ll talk shit. You wouldnt walk into the hood and talk shit would ya. Same situation here.
@ JOKER 1%ER: im telln u yo these people. Dont wry they’ll learn wen someone F%%ks them up for saying the wrong thing to the wrong person.
September 28th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
How about the “Vietnam Vets” and “Legacy Vets” Motorcycle club. They are the largest and most dominant veterans club in the world.
September 28th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Seriously, people… Clubs and ‘gangs’ are not the same. That’s why half of what you’re whining about hasn’t been included!
September 28th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
2Tall: I think this post is about “notorious” OMG’s. Sorry, but VNV & Legacy Vets don’t quite qualify. Being the “largest and most dominant veterans club in the world” doesn’t make it “notorious.” Yeah, some of them (and, as a Viet Nam vet I’ve met more than a few — even got into a scuffle once with some) are “bad”; others are simply wannabes. But in any case, they’ve got a long way to go before they’re in the same class as the ten clubs Brotherman mentions here — plus a few others.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
FaCe your right,, just a matter of time, Respects to ya
September 28th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
A little something else that should be said,,,,,,,
1%’er Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs and Outlaw Bike Riders are a community of people who have banned together and have designated ourselves as those who have chosen to live our ALTERNATIVE LIFESTYLE outside of the realm of the AMA and society at large.
“OUTLAW DOES NOT MEAN CRIMINAL”
In the 1940’s Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs banded together as this 1% that chooses to live our alternative lifestyle, together, on the road, ROAD WARRIORS, outside of the mainstream.
SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE SAID,
AS A 1%ER COMMUNITY
* We do NOT manufacture drugs
* We do NOT do contract killing
* We do NOT steal motorcycles nor do we run chop shops
* We are NOT extortionists
* We are NOT rapists
* We are NOT gun runners
* We are NOT racists organizations
* We are NOT involved in human trafficking nor do we condone it
WE DO NOT TOLERATE ANY SORT OF CHILD ABUSE/MOLESTATION
1%’ers Are NOT Criminals/GANGSTERS and our CLUBS are not gangs!!!
We in the 1%’er OUTLAW Motorcycle Club Community are fighting to protect our own events, homes, families and CLUB MEMBERS from the gangs and criminals that are trying to infiltrate and dominate our Communities as well.
“BUT, WE DON’T CALL THE POLICE”
WE DON’T BELIEVE IN THE SYSTEM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, THEIR SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK.
We take care of our own problems!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
The call is going out for Vietnam Vets and other patriots to think about marching on DC to save our government from Communism. It’s getting serious and I know that many bikers are vets and would like to come home from that war via DC. These are the same people that spit on us and called us names coming home from there in San Fran. Payback Time!!
September 30th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
If you look at the most notorious “gangs” they have membership numbers in the tens of thousands, and many times, subsets of these larger gangs will go after each other.
Even the biggest OMCs don’t even come close in terms of numbers of members. They are exclusive. This certainly supports the idea that OMCs are just that — Outlaw Motorcycle CLUBS.
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
just stopped in a bar for takeout in south phila was full of pagans was pushed to the side of the bar by a big burly guy and said private conversation there move to the middle of the bar…i said np got my takeout and split
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Here’s my first time commenting here, but I thought this should be mentioned… (though I didn’t read all the comments, so It might have been mentioned already)
According to my mom, and some old family photos, the current Hell’s Angels was NOT the original… The original was started sometime back in the ’20’s, and my grandpa was a part of it. Their name was taken from the area where they were formed at, which, at the time, was called ‘Hell’s Kitchen’. The gang took part in such small illegal things as street races and such, but it never escalated beyond that. In fact, they were more likely to help people who were living in the poor parts of town than they were to get into drug trafficking.
I dunno when the first motorcycle was made, it could very well have been sometime after the ’20’s. But I do know that’s when the first Hell’s Angels got together. My mom even has a photo somewhere of my grandpa on his bike.
The Hell’s Angels got a bad name from the current gang, which my family has never considered the ‘real’ Hell’s Angels. In fact, the one we consider ‘real’ still runs today, but are more quiet about their existance (I’ve met one of the members, so I know this for a fact.)
October 4th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Dont be deceived here by what someone wrote, alot of bikers are hard working people , welders, contractors, roofers, etc… happly married. law abiding people, the real basterds are in washington, DC. senators ect, there the ones who are ruining our country, why not exspose them!!
October 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
The motorized bicycle gangs are filled with angry people who have red hair and thin eyelashes. They will not make with the peace to the other motorized bicycle gangs and instead choose to have the antagonistic relationships with each other. The enforcement officers in the states of North America laugh because the motorized bicyclers will dispute with each other and make it easy for the enforcement people to stand off to the side and make the arrests at their leisure. It’s just like when the white american republicans laugh at the crips and bloods for killing each other and keeping the status quo. The enforcement people giggle when mongols and bandidos and outlaws and sons of silence don’t team up but instead make the war on each other because it makes the jobs of the fascists even easier.
The motorized bicyclers should all think of the racketeering laws that the enforcers can use to throw them all in the prison together.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
THE BREED MC IN NORTHEASTERN AMERICA
October 6th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
By Gloucester County Times (NJ)
October 06, 2009, 12:10PM
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — Fifty-five members and associates of the Pagans Motorcycle Club have been indicted on federal charges that include kidnapping and racketeering.
The defendants include national Pagans President David Keith Barbeito of Myersville, Md., and national Vice President Floyd B. Moore of St. Albans. Also named are members and associates in West Virginia, Kentucky, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Delaware and Florida.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
You see how the North American enforcers once again round up many of the motorized bicyclers and call it racketeering so they can make being in a motorized bicycler club as illegal? I said in the past that they laugh because Warlocks and Hells Angels would rather fight against Outlaws and Pagans and inform on each other even though it breaks the unprinted rules of not cooperating with the enforcers.
The enforcement men use the greed of the motorized bicyclers to keep them apart and informing on each other with promises that collaboraters will take over territory of those seized, then the enforcers turn around and backstab them and take them away to prisons too.
Until united all the motorized 1% bicyclers are, the enforcers will continue to do this…
October 7th, 2009 at 11:35 am
What country are you from, dude?
October 7th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
You have so many relationships in this life
Only one or two will last
You’re going through all this pain and strife
Then you turn your back and they’re gone so fast
And they’re gone so fast
So hold on the ones who really care
In the end they’ll be the only ones there
When you get old and start losing your hair
Can you tell me who will still care
Can you tell me who will still care
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In an mmm bop, they’re gone
Plant a seed, plant a flower, plant a rose
You can plant any one of those
Keep planting to find out which one grows
It’s a secret no one knows
It’s a secret no one knows
No one knows
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In an mmm bop they’re not there.
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In an mmm bop they’re not there.
Until you lose your hair. But you don’t care.
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Can you tell me? Night came but you don’t know.
Can you tell me? You say you can but you don’t know.
Can you tell me which flower’s going to grow?
Can you tell me if it’s going to be a daisy or a rose?
Can you tell me which flower’s going to grow?
Can you tell me? You say you can but you don’t know.
You say you can but you don’t know.
You don’t know
You don’t know
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October 7th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Seems like this website is here to give a black eye to MC and 1%ers everywhere
October 7th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Make a biker your friend, it could save your life
October 8th, 2009 at 8:56 am
The guy who plays “Face” on the A-Team is the same dude who played Starbuck in “Battlestar Galactica.”
October 8th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
October 9th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Nomad doesn’t have too much to say, it seems.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
im live in orlando, and i’ve never seen a Warlock anywhere…..?
October 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
anyone ever heard of Urban Assault?
October 18th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Depends on where in Orlando you are. There are Warlocks and Outlaws all over here
October 20th, 2009 at 7:18 am
I ish from teh hells angels. Fear meh D:<!!!!
October 20th, 2009 at 7:19 am
o ya are no ya douche bag
October 20th, 2009 at 7:20 am
and i farted on your mothers pilow last night and now she smells like tunrnips
October 20th, 2009 at 11:33 am
I fly colors, I have a blood family, I also have an extended Family in the colors I fly. I have a job. I have a country (USA). If you try to harm any,(colors,family or country}and I am alone I will fight you till my last breath, and like any army,if we are numbered the task will be more decisive.
Walk up to a seal team and disrespect them. They will stomp your guts out.
Walk up to a bunch of cops and disrespect them. They will beat the shit out of you and then jail you.
Walk up to a group of true 1% ers and disrespect them. They will kill you.(slowly)
This is evident in the big picture as well. The Taliban disrespects the US. We bomb the shit out of them.
The strong do eventually survive. The week will perish.
Let it be written. Let it be said.
Deciples
October 21st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
The only real 1% club out there is so secretive, it would never be discussed on this or any other internet site. The ones on this list are the clumsy ones that everybody knows about.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT NOT ALL BIKERS OR THEIR CLUBS ARE BAD…I HAVE MET GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE OUTLAW MC WHEN I LIVED UP NORTH…DONT JUDGE UNTIL YOU BEEN THERE & HAVE MET THEM 1ST HAND !!!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
What about the “Wild Hogs”
October 27th, 2009 at 11:58 am
@Beef (yeah i know a few of the green, berdoo is red and white, always will be. I lived in fontana and bloomington for years
October 27th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
I’m forming a Moped Club to challenge the big 1% clubs out there.
The hum of our Mopeds will bring a thousand times more fear than any dumb old Harley.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:02 am
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October 28th, 2009 at 7:05 am
FUCK THE ANGELS
October 28th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Bring back da Rock Machine!!!
October 28th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Never heard of Vagos or Free-Souls.. interesting.. woulda thought the Bandidos would have been in top 5
October 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Mostly Outlaws and Black Piston here in OK
October 28th, 2009 at 11:13 am
*Black Pistons
October 29th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
BEING A PATCH HOLDER IS A HONOR THAT I WORKED VERY HARD TO GET AND KEEP. THIS LIFE STYLE IS NO JOKE VERY SERIOUS, WHEN YOU PUT THAT PATCH ON THEIR ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KILL YOU. I BELONG TO A MOTORCYCLE CLUB NOT GANGS I REPEAT NOT GANGS WHAT DO YOU THINK THE MC STANDS FOR MOTORCYCLE CLUB. WE JUST WANT TO BE LEFT THE HELL ALONE
October 29th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Sam,
I am not a biker of any sort. Would love to ride a bike however, lol. I do however know MANY 1%ers. Old and New schoolers. Im sure u know the difference. I know/knew mainly the Old School stereotypical, types. I have witnessed some crazy stuff. For the smallest things too! lol. It seems alot of clubs these days are trying to get away from the “old” image. Atleast, from what ive been told and seen. Is this the case? and why? School me Brother. t/y
November 3rd, 2009 at 5:26 pm
I’ll beat up any bikers that mess with me. I drive a TRUCK, not some silly bike.
November 3rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
@Gonzoid (249): I know, those bicyclists are so friggin’ lame! I mean, you’re in your truck, and suddenly some guys with helmets on riding bikes are coming after you? Oh, please! What are they trying to do, mug you in your truck? Assassinate you for witnessing them pull off a “horrible crime”(i.e., stealing an old lady’s Jitterbug while she isn’t looking at the local mall’s food court)? All you have to do to escape them is press your foot down on a pedal, and whoosh!, they’re miles behind you. I personally like to insult them while driving off. Insults such as “Who do you think you are?! Lance Armstrong? HA! You wish your arm was strong enough to even pick up a lance!!! Now eat my dust, cockfondler!” and the like. But don’t confuse them with motorcyclist gangs. If you mess with them, those whackos’ll beat the crap of you untill you forget that you were born! Or untill you’re dead.
November 4th, 2009 at 11:14 am
If any one percenter wants a good butt whoopin just let him bring his dog to poop on MY lawn!
November 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
You people dont know shit!
November 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Oh and bman…..say it in DAGO anytime pussy!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
NO shit
November 6th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
ive read alot of posts and everything, and i must say most of my knowledge of clubs comes from tv and docomentaries like gangland. ive talked to one woman whos old man is part of a club, and she said that those programs are there just to make them look bad. she said the women are not forced to be there, are not forced to be prostitutes, and are not beaten and tortured. i also heard other women say the clubs dont do that. but everytime i see those documentaries, i keep thinking who the hell am i suppose to believe, the women who are in the clubs or the t.v. shows. one of them had a vagos member who said that the women in the club are nothing, that they can be bought and sold like hookers. id like to think the women are there because they want to be. but who do you believe
November 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
@crystal moon (255): I’d personally go with the show. I mean, if those women are being beaten and sold, are they really going to trash-talk those who are beating and selling? On the other hand, they’ll say they are there willingly if they actually are there willingly. It’s a tough call, but most of these 1%ers are pretty violent, so I’d assume the worst about them and figure it out later.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Sheesh…. There are a lot of people on here that seem to open there mouth and insert their foot. Like anything else in life, knowledge is important BEFORE you comment on something you only “heard” stories about. Let me help some of you…(255 & 256)…I am the woman with a 1% man. Yes, read between the lines, WITH a 1%.. I do not BELONG to him. He does NOT Pimp me out. He is the love of my life. He is the 1st man in my life to be completely loyal, faithful and respectful of me. I cannot even tell you the last time a man opened my car door for me before I started dating him 2 years ago….and just a few weeks ago he actually got on 1 knee and asked me to marry him! We are a couple…not each others property. I walk BESIDE him, NOT BEHIND him. I have been around bikers my whole life as my father has always had a chopper of some sort. He is now 75..still rides and loves the crap out of my Boyfriend. I have been married twice to Non biker, straight as an arrow, church every Sunday type of men.. and guess what??? I have seen both of them do some really evil shit! One smacked me around on a regular basis and the other screwed with my head to abuse me…AND they BOTH
slept around over and over again…until I finally had enough and split! As for this wonderful guy…well, as for the bikers I know in my life…yes, many of them 1% clubs…these guys have huge hearts and would give you the shirt off their back. They love their Mothers, children, wives, etc. Where I see problems is when we are on runs together and all of a sudden a “wannabee” pulls up along side on his bike and starts reving his engine and plays games riding into the group, etc. Then, yep…there will be an ass whippin’ ’cause he was just a dumb ass with a few too many cocktails playing with the wrong people..that simple…cut and dry! Only 1 fella took a jab at him and all the other looked on. Their colors, (patch on their vest), cannot be soiled, therefore, if it looked as though he may hit the ground…that is when the others will step in….NOT to beat the F*** out of the dude…but just to keep their buddies patch from being soiled! Get it? As for getting together to be “bad asses” in groups….well I hate to burst anyones bubble on that as well. But, the fact is, I go on about 8 – 10 runs from Nov. 8th, (which was today), until December 23rd….With 100’s of the 1% clubs and 100’s of the 99% clubs…we all co-mingle! Do you know why? The runs are for Toys, money and food to help the less fortunate! Have you ever seen a biker going down the highway with a Toy or a Teddy Bear on their bike? Yep…that is what the “bad ass pimpin’ druggies” are doing. Today was a Toy run, 100’s of really awesome BRAND new toys were donated for the children that society keeps leaving behind! Next weekend is a TURKEY run…YOU MUST BRING A TURKEY to gain access to one of the greatest parties you will ever go to in your life! I am a Christian yet theses 1% clubs are the ones I choose to be around….why? Because they are honest…they tell you the way it is…period! If hearing the way it is scares the crap out you…the speak your peace behind the anonimity of a site like this and pretend you know what you are talking about…fact of the matter is, most readers know exactly who YOU are and where you can be found. Sadly you will never know about an experience like this because you hide behind your computer talking smack about something you know nothing about.
P.S. Oh, by the way…Even the “Big boys” can use a computer..duh! They can read and write and even hold real jobs…my Boyfriend is a DISTRICT MANAGER for one of the largest companies in the U.S. My Father..a biker my whole life….was then Executive Chef at the world famous Ambassador Hotel and Coconut Grove! When the closed it’s doors he taught Culinary Arts which included ice sculpting, Pastry Arts, Garnishe’, etc.,etc.I wonder what TM does for a living besides mouth off on web sights…Hmmmmm?
November 8th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Luv2ride (aka 257) Said it best. I am a 1% “ol lady” altho I am not old. 27. Not to sound ego strung but I am a hottie….sorry I am what I am. My old man worships the ground I walk on!!!! And I him. He has never passed me around or ask me to fuck his bros!!! Never pimped me out!!!! Of all the woman I have ever seen in my now over a decade in this life style I have never seen any woman being treated like slave. Now I have seen some groupies get down, get nasty and party porno style….but thats why they were there and thats what they wanted. Hell we all do. More like some spring breakers out for some kicks. All good fun. But never some slave life style shit! I attend all the runs and have every year. You people watch too much T.V. Your Goverment will do whatever it can to sell you on what it wants. By pumping fear or anger in you…you will buy its bill of rights. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! If you dout it, if you fear it, no matter what it is, go see it upfront and personal. Talk to those you dont understand. In this case go to a harley store. Its not the dirty smelly place you may think it is. Most are cleaner, more fashionable than a Benz or BMW dealership. Those clothes we wear arent cheap! Educate yo dam self so that no one can ever mis-lead you into their thinking. Free will….free mind….if not….now who is the slave?
November 9th, 2009 at 8:10 am
we are many no mercy
November 9th, 2009 at 8:11 am
keep the shinny side up an to all tha ladies hate to see you leave but love to watch ya go
November 9th, 2009 at 8:14 am
yeah just heard ya aint no shit its a shitty world but im a happy guy nice to see ya
November 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I have always wondered why if gangs especially the true cowards like the Crips, The Bloods and some of the Biker Gangs are such bad asses then why do they cover their faces like true cowards. I believe the white bikers are truly bad asses, but the homie gangs and the Mexicans are true cowards.. Would love to see the true 1 %ers kick the dog meat out of them non-american and homie gangs..
November 9th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
1% Ol Lady
It is the gangs themselves that say they use their so-called ole ladies as hookers and meat at parties. Hey as long as the women dont mind being exploited, used, kicked around, and passed around then i say live and let live. I however have a lot more respect for women, especially the one I share my life with. Now my next comment is not directed at any one biker club, but my lord, you would think showers and hygene would be a club rule. I have been around some stanky, greased up matted hair bikers that call themselves bad asses. They may be bad but they sure stank like a rotten ass. Regardless, I would stand side by side with any biker if they were taking caRE of buisness against any illegal Mexican or smart ass homie..Anytime….. Anywhere!!!!
November 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
The Pagan’s would totally OWN the Angels in a game of candlepin bowling.
November 11th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Seriously, gangs are super lame and obviously lack both moral and hygiene values. If you are a real “gang” member you wouldn’t be reading dumb ass posts on the internet. What you are considered is commonly referred to as a “poser”. This term supersedes the previous term of “wannabe”. What I’m trying to say is that you are basically all fags. Thank you.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:16 am
For those of you who are using this information to understand what a “Biker Group” really is, you came the the wrong place! This is all a one sided story about what one person read on the internet or hear on TV.
Seriously, bikers are NOT mean people! Have any ove you ever went up and talked to one? You would find they are all just normal guys that are all together for the same reason….Broterhood.
They all get a bad reputation because some things in the past have happened or on chapter messed things up and then BAMM…the whole organization is known for that.
The episode on the History Channel Gang Land made me laugh for an hour straight. Half of the things they said were so far from the truth. It was like watching a bad “Based on a True Story” movie…when only about 2% is actually true! (Remember Titanic…you get the point!)
Anyway, I will stop my rant now…but know they are not that bad. They respect each other, and will do anything to protect each other…family/brotherhood. Why do I know all of this you may ask, because I grew up in it.
November 12th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
From the horses mouth, this is the make-up of most of your so called “BAD ASSES and or BIKER GANG MEMBERS”…Most are working stiffs!!! FACT!!! Just make sure you read it twice!!! The first part more so…..
“Treat me good i’ll treat you better, treat me bad i’ll treat you worse!”
Sonny Barger
Hells Angels
November 14th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Gangs these are not they are MC with a perpose,Sure theres a few bad apples in every bunch,there off the radar until something bad happens then there all tossed in to one bunch,That doesnt seem to happen with the law enforcement when one of them gets busted.Live and let Live
November 14th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Only one comment here on the biggest baddest most criminal gang of all – the LEOs.
Best of luck guys – most don’t know, nor should they.
November 16th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
I found out that the reason they’re called “1%ers” is that they ALL drink the 1% lowfat milk, and basically don’t drink nothing else.
Good thing they don’t go any lower, or all these biker clubs would have diamond-shaped patches that say “SKIM”.
November 18th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
The song goes there was nothing said about—”Grim Reapers” what have they been forgotten or WHAT? I partyed with them and Hells Angels,the whole weekend, there was ONLY ONE FIGHT that broke out–20 to 30 minutes it was over and nothing else. It was a good experience, one that wont be forgotten. Party in KENTUCKY!!!
November 21st, 2009 at 9:13 am
If your facts for all of the other clubs is off as much as your facts about the Bandidos, I wouldn’t put much stock in any of it. Although San Antonio is usually the largest chapter (they don’t publish this information) the club was started in Galvaston, NOT San Antonio. The founder was a Marine, but never went to Viet Nam, and the red and gold colors comes from the deadly coral snake, not the Marine Corps. Do some more research. Or leave well enough alone. Don’t believe everything law enforcement publishes.
November 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL RED & GOLD!!!!!!!
November 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
yea,this is some BS.this site is feeding all the weak minded people what thay need to hear in order to keep them on there knees.theres two kinds of people on the planet.sheep and wolves.everyone can see that society,s underbelly keeps growing and befor long all there sheep herders will hve them all locked SAFELY
November 21st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
IN BARNS AND CAGES TO PROTECT THEM FROM THE WOLVES AT THE DOOR!!!!!!!!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
never understood of being part of a club or gang in the first place,everyone says its a “brotherhood” or a true “family” yeah ok that doesnt come in play much if say some outsider that has beef wit u spreads a rumor even if its untrue that your a rat or some sh*t of the sort all of a sudden that “brotherhood” or “family” is trying to kill u, just the kind of “family” I want to be part of(not).Regardless of the fact its stupid to join a club or a gang if you “Real” you dont need anyone to handle you affairs besides yourself its sign of weakness to do otherwise,I cant remember who it was on this topic they commented and were right in a way,its cowardly to fight multi on one I dont care for reasoning or excuses its cowardly period,with that said obviously someone wouldnt say it to a whole club with all the members there but i tell u what I do me I can handle my own thats why I stay solo among other factors but I am real and would speak my mind to a member and I do know ALOT of ppl that arent to be f*cked with either so if I need to make a call cause a club memeber is so pu**y hes gotta call his “brothers” ill do the same but id have alot more respect for a person that would man up and do it without his friends.All that being said I dont really give a sh*t about the crimes they commit other then some of the uncalled for blood shed(and by that I mean murder)but 1%joker dont tell me they dont do it i dont like authority either but they dont lie all the time about how much meth,bodies,and weapons they find and to say otherwise is just f*ckin dumb otherwise I do the same ive gotten into mutltiple fights brawls cutty rip offs and been in the pen enough to know that in the end were all on our own I dont care if you got 20,000 members in the end your alone.
November 23rd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
lol@biggest and baddest ok let me make this clear for everyone in here theres double if not triple that in crips and bloods in just one state and these clubs got charters across the country that doesnt even touch the amount of crips or bloods running around in one city to deem them the baddest or largest is just stupid.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
The biker clubs aren’t even real. TV made them up so they could do shows about them. No real bikers out there.
November 24th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
you want to know what real 1%’er violence is like? Watch the movie “The Devils Rejects”.
November 26th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Why aren’t their any good unicycle clubs?
November 29th, 2009 at 12:32 am
My motorcycle club in Australia is the WAFFEN SS
November 30th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
i got board reading other responses i just wanted to get to the bottom so i could inform you, you have some of your facts incorrect might want to check on it 1%ers do not appreciate false statements made in reagards to their club.
December 1st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
im from eugene oregon so i know who the free souls are..lol and the gypsy jokers…
#1 was no surprise at all.. but for the dumbass who asked about “sons of anarchy” im pretty fuckin sure they arent a real biker gang.. that show is supposed to be based off one of the hells angels chapters.
do your research!
December 4th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
the asshole who made the comment 23 if you say one more god damn thing ill slit your fucking throat
December 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Outlaws MC should be # 2
December 6th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
” BOOZEFIGHTERS UP ” SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL GREEN AND WHITE
December 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
regarding #108. your statement is so untrue. I ride, im a minority, i don’t drink or do drugs and have a good job helping people. Hay just a thought; society has a small % of bad folks and a bigger % of good people, just like the (99% and 1%)in the biker world right. so what does this say of the discription you just gave. does this mean that we should look at everyone in society and make a judgement, wait maybe you are discribing yourself, white, no job, do drugs and maybe wanted by the law. not good to be judgemental my friend, try to get on a Harley Davidson and ride you will see what i mean
December 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
I’M FROM THE “INLAND EMPIRE” SO I’VE ALWAYS HEARD OF THE VAGOS.. NOT TO BE MESSED WITH!!
December 7th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
All i have to say is you can tell some of you are dumb f***s and just run your big cum traps. The clubs are real there here to stay i wouldn’t want it any other way. I have respect for all M/C clubs. Some of the posts on here are just out of line. Like #23–#29. #29 must be a real dumb a**.
December 7th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
By now I have forgotten what the first of this article was,but I do agree with 257-258. Look around and see people! I have gone to Sturgis the last twenty-five years and if you can not tell the wantabee from the yuppie or the true BIKERS then you have no reason to be on this site. It SUCKS! We know who we are and what we do and it shouldn’t bother you until you are the problem. Our news media only tells you what they are told to say. You figure it out from there! We don’t have to have “colors” on to know who is REAL!
December 9th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Its like this, all you people who talk shit on the mcs are like I said just a bunch of shit talkers. I work at my local Walmart as a stocker, A group of just three Outlaws came in one night to buy some beer for a party they were having and the whole store was as quiet as a church. They came in and got their beer and I talked about ten minutes to them then they left, They didn’t bother anything or anybody. Actually they were very respectful and good people, But everybody knew better than to f*** with them. They are just a group of brothers that watch each others back, Which is the way it should be. But anyway all of you who run that mouth on here, I know for a fact you wouldn’t face to face with an Outlaw if you would your just an idiot.
December 10th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
All of them are human waste. They commit crimes and are hard core racist. No one in a 1% bike club is anything but a criminal. I hate to listen to stupid fools who admire these vermin. Prison is best place for all of them. Sorry I was wrong. A grave is best place for them all!
December 11th, 2009 at 10:33 am
The most hardcore of all MCs out there is the one called the “Tuffies MC”
They’re so bad, they’re actually considered to be 1/2%ers (instead of the full one percent) by law enforcement.
December 12th, 2009 at 12:14 am
support your local highwaymen
December 13th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
You Earthlings are so strange to me, with your biker gangs, mustard, and George Strait records and all.
December 15th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
HEY NOW!! Just hold on a second, there. You want to talk trash about 1%ers? Fine. You want to make fun of the Angels and Outlaws. FINE. You want to make a mockery of the biker culture? Whatever.
But DO NOT — I repeat DO NOT be talking trash about mustard!!! Mustard is the shit, man. ARE YOU INSANE?? Think of it. Colonel Mustard from “Clue”… Mean Mr. Mustard from the Beatles. Yummy yellow mustard to liven up a dull sandwich..
DON’T FUCK WITH THE MUSTARD
December 18th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Don’t entirely trust what the History Channel may have to say about biker clubs.
In one program, they identified a guy in a photo as a Mongol named “Jingles” who was gunned down by Hells Angels on a California freeway. On another show, the EXACT SAME PHOTO was shown — but this time it was supposedly of a Florida Warlock who was stabbed to death by the Outlaws at a racetrack.
Sort of does a disservice to BOTH of them to get them mixed-up like that.
December 19th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I know for a fact that the top four are in this order
[NAMES] [What I think of them]
1.Outlaws (bad asses)
2.Hells Angels (nice name)
3.Mongols (?)
4.Pagans (hahahahahahaha)
December 19th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Kreznoid your a fucking retard biker gangs are real
December 19th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
To those of you saying the “sons of anarchy” should be on this list, you do realise that the “sons of anarchy” is just a tv show right? They are NOT a real biker gang/club/organization unless they were made AFTER the tv show came out then they are just fucking retarded for copying what they saw on a tv show and thinking they can handle some real biker gang/club/organization shit
December 19th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I was heading south on 81 in P.A. about 5 years ago. There were about 6 bikes, (4 patched Outlaws and 2 or 3 non patched, with a few women on the backs of a few of the bikes) and they were cruisin in the right lane at maybe 55 mph. They looked like some pretty serious dudes. What irritated me was, this State Trooper stayed on their tail, but in the left lane, for what seemed like 10 miles. I could not pass. Finally, the cop needs to exit, so he falls behind and gets off an exit. I thought that it was cool to see some actual Outlaws because I’ve always heard that they are the real deal, but that cop was an ass, and I’m not one to grumble too much about cops. I’ve seen Angels a few times out and about, and The Pagans once in MD.
/Sorry, my story was rather boring.
December 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 pm
The Bandidos belong in the top 4.
Hells Angels
Outlaws
Bandidos
Pagans
December 27th, 2009 at 10:12 am
What about the “Hells Satans” or, the “Satans Helpers”?
How come they’re not on the list?
December 28th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Interesting top.
Some of gangs i have heard of but some of them are new(altough they are old)to me.
I am from Romania,Eastern Europe.It will be also an interesting top one about european bike gangs,because they are some also in Europe.
December 28th, 2009 at 9:56 am
And also i belive that Bandidos have to be placed in Top 5 because they have also e long history and they are among the most powerfouls.
December 31st, 2009 at 3:17 am
motorcycle clubs are not gangs
December 31st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Baseball bats are not clubs!!!
December 31st, 2009 at 6:35 pm
I am looking to form a vespa gang called the “vesparados”
January 1st, 2010 at 6:29 pm
I see a ton of names were a certain club didn’t make the list and here is something you have to remember.
First of all, the Big 5 are the Hells Angels, Outlaws, Bandidos, Pagans & the Mongols and they all have control somewhere.
If you want to start ANY kind of club whether it’s 1% or 99% you MUST get permission from the dominant club in that area. Cops, Military & HOG groups are the exceptions in most cases.
When you propose a club you have to state what your club is going to be.
Once you do that and get the OK, you will be told what actual colorings you can have on your patch.
Then you have to come up with a design that CAN NOT be similar to any of the other clubs or a rival club, and you MUST submit the proposals to them for their OK.
Amongst all of this, if you decide to be a 1% club you will have to become a part of a coalition and support the dominant club NO MATTER WHAT.
Yes, there might be a few MC’s out there you think should be on that list, but chances are they are a part of a coalition.
I will also assure you that when clubs ride into other states they will call the dominant chapter in the state they want to go through and what routes they will be traveling.
The dominant chapter will notify the other clubs as to who and when that club will be going through so that nobody is mistaken for a rival club.
As far as the wives and girl friends go……
ANY CLUB that has respect for their other half DOES NOT have a property patch and there is absolutely no need for one either.
Fact is, for those of us who do not use those property patches is we all know each other and we consider ourselves brothers no matter what colors we wear and you WILL NOT mess with another mans woman or you’ll get hurt.
I know who everybody is, they know me and they know my wife. They also know she is off limits and we ALL make sure that nothing happens to anybody.
Just as we protect each other when we’re together, we do so even when we’re not together. If something happened to myself or my wife I know that the club will take care of it.
We live and we will die for each other and our families. We take care of each other and settle our own problems ourselves.
We will NEVER call the cops because the justice system we have is not as fast or as efficient as ours is. WE are the judges and juries of our own because anybody other than who is in our brotherhood IS NOT a peer. My club brothers are my peers.
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:50 am
I know to well of these guys I just got out of florence colorada federal prison for running in a group of outlaws!!! was fun at times but get ready to go away on vacation eventually
January 2nd, 2010 at 3:54 am
very well said and right on the money red and white supporter
January 2nd, 2010 at 4:23 pm
As the old saying goes….You’ll either end up in jail, dead or die in jail.
January 2nd, 2010 at 7:34 pm
I also have to address the way some people like to yack here as well.
I’m not going to banter back and forth with the smart asses who will inevitably say something here because they have no respect for anything, including themselves and there will come a day when they come across somebody who is hardcore, forget they’re not in front of their computer and will end up donating a couple of pints of blood to the ground they’re now laying on.
The internet has afforded people the ability to act as if they’re the greatest thing since Rambo.
They talk up a storm and run their mouths because they can sit behind a computer and say anything they want without having to suffer the consequences of what they say and how they say it. So here is what will happen in the real world, and the xfed will back it up.
First of all, ALL MC’s are like a nest of hornets. If you leave them alone, they leave you alone. Stir up that nest and they will swarm.
With the exception of a few, most of them will talk to you if you’re decent and respectful. They won’t say much because they don’t trust you because they don’t know you and you’re not wearing colors.
Give them respect and they leave you alone. Become mouthy and disrespectful and you will end up in the closest intensive care unit.
We don’t care if there’s only 1 of you or you’re in a group. We have fought where the numbers have been against us and have come out ahead because we are street fighters and we will do whatever it takes to survive. Mess with one and you mess with all.
Even when a circumstance comes along where somebody is by himself and he gets hurt, the brothers will come and get every last person involved, and chances are they will find you before the police will. It might not be right away, but I assure you that they WILL find you.
Your best bet is to let the police get you because the cops will be merciful. WE WON’T.
January 2nd, 2010 at 8:08 pm
well said red and white, I certainly spilled my share of idiots blood LOL, the 1%er is surely a different breed of person, true to the core and if anyone reading this is not my advice is to just stay away from them, just forget you ever saw one!!!!!! and let them be, thats the way they want it, they dont sell drugs to the public at all and if they do they will be delt with from within. they do not want any problems all there buisness is with themselves, of course you have a few dumb asses that should never had been let in, they eventually get theres.
January 2nd, 2010 at 8:30 pm
Every once in a while one slips through including rats, and like you said, sooner or later they get theirs.
I’ve helped educate a few as well by letting them donate blood, teeth, etc. LOL
I just thought I could retire and stay away, but after just so long the blood starts burning again and next thing you know you’re back in colors again.
I remember when I left last time and ended up going to a big rally and couldn’t resist going to see everybody. Shaking hands, hugging each other and shooting the breeze.
The great thing about it is once you’ve been in they’ll always remember you. You earned your colors, you did everything that was expected of you and earned their respect because you earned your colors. And when you want to come back they can’t get you back in fast enough.
It’s an addiction. You never seem to get enough of it.
I hope there comes a day when ALL MC’s can be united, but I doubt it will ever be seen.
Just as you were close to the Outlaws and I’m close to the HA’s, one of us would have to take care of the other if we ever met or we’d both be taken care of.
Sucks, doesn’t it.
January 6th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
Okay, I’m not going to hide behind a computer screen. If anybody wants a piece of me — including any of the 1% MCs out there — you can find me at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C. It’s a big, white house. You can’t miss it.
I probably should warn you that I have friends who will try to stop you (before I get the chance to kick your butt myself). If you’re good enough to get by them, then I say it’s time to GET IT ON!
January 8th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Gangs?
All but one of these groups are “Clubs”!
January 9th, 2010 at 7:46 pm
They’re ALL clubs.
January 14th, 2010 at 1:40 pm
How do I get into a mc ?????Let me know I am ready !!!
January 14th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
so your saying that those shows that say the clubs force women into prostitution are lying? ive heard they beat them for not keeping house clean, for having an opinion, for refusing to do something they were told to do, etc. they say they are involved in child porn, and all that disgusting stuff. are the shows lying? because they do have members on there saying they treat the women like hookers. so whos telling the truth?
January 17th, 2010 at 1:35 am
Christy all dats true just saw ur comment nd tho id comment I kno a lot of info about gangs ect. If any1 needs to kno comment me I also help out wit realtion ship problems nd can tell a lot by da way ppl act so hit me up to find out more info if dis site interests u I think ya should get and watch the sons of anarchy
January 17th, 2010 at 11:51 am
I’d say the ignorance of Bike “CLUBS” (Not gangs) I’ve read here is some off the funniest shit I have read in a long time, If it wasn’t for the fact many of these people are serious!
Sure Outlaw clubs have some bad members, they are far out numbered by the good people wearing the same patch!
January 17th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
For the one who wants to join a MC….If you don’t know how to go about it then you are NOT ready to be a part of it.
As far as the women go….Whores are whores. Our wives/girl friend(s) belong to the club member and it’s strictly hands off.
When it comes to good & bad members, it all boils down to the individual and to how they want to be.
There are MANY club members that have never committed a criminal act in their lives and then there are those who choose that path.
No matter how clean or dirty a member is, there is one thing you cal ALWAYS count on…If you mess with one you’re messing with all of them. If you want to fight with one you’re taking on the whole club and they will beat you to a pulp. It’s a brotherhood and they will do what it takes to help a brother.
Today’s media is so pathetic and in the hip pockets of the law and politicians it makes me want to puke on all of them.
The tell you ONLY what they want you to hear and not the entire truth. They will lie at any cost to promote their agenda, and here’s all of the proof I need.
If a cop asks you a question and you lie to them they can have you locked up. But if they tell you a lie it’s OK and there’s no consequences. And if you think I’m kidding try it one day and see what happens.
January 17th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
“whores are whores”? what do you mean by that? yeah i know you may not pimp out your own girls or wives, but what about the ones that are property of the entire club? i bet there is no shortage of them with black and blue faces.
January 18th, 2010 at 1:00 am
@christy (324):
January 18th, 2010 at 4:44 am
Those women choose that life ,they can leave if they want.To many ppl listen to rumors or media hoopla ,you want to here the bad and not the good.That’s like if someone screws up in thier life the ppl who know him will only remember what he did wrong and not see what changes he or she has made to better them selfs.
To Red and White supporter ,I would like to know how to go about doing it.I have thought long and hard about it ,I am ready I just need help getting my foot in the door,so that I can establish myself and work my way in.
January 18th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
they choose to be raped and beaten, jameskde?
January 18th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
May be you should go back to school and get your ged because I stated that They have the choice to leave if they wanted but they don’t .Thay don’t leave because they are protected and taking care of ,either with thier habits or saftey issues. The MC that they are with protect and take care of them ,they give them work who cares if it is in adult movies.Every person has a choice there is always a way out,it just depends how far you want to go to get out.
January 19th, 2010 at 1:23 am
NONE are the entire property of the club. Only those that are wives or girlfriends are considered property of the club and they are never touched by other members. There are clubs who will have a property patch for the wives or girlfriends.
And here’s a bit more of an education for you. The number of women out here that are WILLING to be sex toys for MC’s is off the charts.
I have YET to go to any activity where there aren’t women who want to be gang banged by a group of bikers and ask for more afterwards.
They love the bad boy thing and they will do anything they can to get that and there are many MC’ers who won’t think twice about giving them what they ask for.
I won’t deny that there are some women who have regretted it, but that was a choice they made.
And ANY woman that wants to be used by MC’ers better know that the MC’ers will take what they want. You’re offering your body and they’re going to have it.
IF a member of a club is working as a pimp then it is he who is working that on his own and not on the direction of the club. Same thing applies to any other illegal activity. Club members work those things on their own volition.
JAMESKDE – If you think you’re ready to do this then here’s what you have to do.
You need to find the nearest MC and start going to every event they have and get to know these guys.
You’ll have to speak to a club officer and let them know what you would like to do.
Then they’re going to tell you what’s coming up and pretty soon you are going to have to ride with them (in the rear) to see how they ride and if they think you can handle it.
If they begin to like what they see and you like what you see, then you’ll start out as a Friend of the Club.
Next step is being a Hangaround and from there you become a Prospect.
Just remember this. Most clubs have as their #1 rule is CLUB FIRST.
The club comes before work, family and anything else and there is NO DEBATE. When you are told to do something or you have to be somewhere you had dam well better do it or be there and no questions asked.
They do not care if you could get fired from your job or if your wife threatens to leave you because the club is the #1 thing in your life now.
In each step you get to do more and more, but once you become a Prospect that’s when it gets very tough and very demanding.
You will do exactly as you are told or risk getting your ass handed to you. They want to see how loyal you are going to be to this club and your potential brothers.
And always remember this. NEVER lie to them. If you do and they find out you will never be trusted again, and you will probably get beaten, have your colors taken away and you’ll be out bad.
Anything you have done in employment or if you have done time in the military will be NOTHING compared as to the hours you will have to dedicate to the club.
You must also realize that once you get in to this and law enforcement sees you, you will now be a part of what the government calls a terrorist organization.
They will take your picture any chance they get, find out who you are and will have a file on you for the rest of your life.
One last thing to remember. When you decide to get in to an MC you better be prepared to either go to jail or die for your brothers because the MC is what your life revolves around. THE MC IS YOUR LIFE.
January 19th, 2010 at 10:47 am
I know I can handle all what You have said and jail doesn’t scare me ,I have already did my time in prison a little 5 year spat.I know what comes first when it comes to the life ,it’s just getting my foot in the door and the area I am in does not have an MC in it nor in the state .
January 19th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Saying you can handle it, and actually living the life are two different things…The fact you had to ask how, tells me , You probably can’t cut it! No Insult, just a likely fact!
If you had what it takes, you would have already been living th e;lifestyle for years, and would have known how to get in….But…Good Luck….
January 19th, 2010 at 11:01 am
Jameskde I got a question not to but in or anythin but have u ever even b in a gang if u aint b in a gang then the life of the club should b a lot harder I kno its 2 differnt things but in my perspective if u can handle being in a gang u can handle the club both r 4 life untill u wanna end it or untill some1 else does
January 19th, 2010 at 11:06 am
And a question what do you mean see how they ride ? When I have to ride int the rear
January 19th, 2010 at 11:08 am
james…if you ever saw how the Angels Roll, You’d Understand, they ride balls out, all the time, First thing you have to be able to do, Is Keep up…
Number one rule you learn..Keep Your Mouth Shut…
January 19th, 2010 at 11:16 am
O that’s it !!!
January 19th, 2010 at 12:14 pm
I also don’t want to just jump I the sack with any MC ,I am looking for dependablity,trust,and loyalty.I will do my end and prove that I am trust worthy,and will do any thing for my brothers and family.Like I said ,foot in the door and work my way up.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
So your already asking for them to prove themselves to you?
January 19th, 2010 at 12:32 pm
No not at all Gyspy ! I wouldn’t ask them to prove themselves to me ,I am sure that when I am earning their trust I will see that I can trust and depend on them also.The thing is I am in a state that I don’t think that there are any MC around.If I had the chance I would take it.
January 19th, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Then you move to where they are, I live about a mile from the Local Hells Angels clunhouse, and it is not unusual at all for young riders to move here, just so they can hook up, after all, if you are dedicated, what is pulling up roots to move? NOTHING!
January 19th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Ok where is that at and I will pack
January 19th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Are you for real? Listen, I can save you a serious ass kickin…forget this idea..You have already proven to me, a 1% would stomp you within minutes of meeting you, you ask too many questions!
Welcome to the reality of Outlaw life!
January 19th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Got find out where to get my foot in the door if it takes an ass whoopn it takes n ass whoopn!!!
January 19th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
My bicycle has a bell and a basket.
January 19th, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Well, if yer determind, all their locations and websights are on the interenet…They don’t hide!
January 19th, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Already ahead way ahead of you ,I am gonna leave sat.be there in 3 days good looking out
January 19th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Good luck wit dat
January 19th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Well, I tried…,,,
January 19th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
The best way to join an MC:
Make a home-made vest that says “Outlaws” on the back, with a red-eyed skull that has crossed pistons below it.
Wear your homemade colors into any HA or Outlaws clubhouse, verbally demanding respect. They will take care of the rest.
Another good way is to make a homemade vest that says “Banditos” (be sure to use a “t” in the name) and wear it to a Bandidos clubhouse, and announce you’re there to join up and/or take over.
January 19th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
No that aint smart dat shit cud get u jumped or killed just 4 wearin their colors but k?
January 19th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
ROFL, gee ya think?, some folks just don’t get Sarcasim!
January 19th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
i would love to have a conversation with a member of one of these gangs, n simply ask why, what is really the point, we are all going to die anyway so why make it such a bitch to live?
January 19th, 2010 at 2:55 pm
First off, they are NOT Gangs,.,,second , If you need to ask, you would never understand!
January 19th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
mcswede: Anthropologists have written books about the MC subculture, and there are no pat answers to your question. The need or desire to belong to an MC is very much an individual one, and if you asked 50 guys, you would very likely get 50 different answers…above and beyond the standard brotherhood and love-to-ride answers. As a member of an MC, I know my needs are different than any of my brothers.
January 19th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Just by moving to a state where there’s an MC doesn’t mean they’re going to let you be a part of the brotherhood.
And rest assured that if you’re trying to get into an MC and they beat on you, you WILL NOT get into the club.
Being somewhere with false colors or anything similar to a rival club will get you killed.
And as far as asking what the point is they’ll beat the hell out of you and tell you it’s none of your f’ing business!
Asking ANY CLUB about club business is none of your business unless you’re a full patch holder, and that patch holder will ONLY SPEAK with another brother.
Asking too many questions about a club and how they do things will get you hurt. Only the cops want that much info and whether you’re with the law or not, once you’re suspected of being with the law you’re finished.
As a prospect you will be told what is expected of you and you will do it without question. It’s like being in the military, but the worst the military will do is put you in jail. A MC will put you in either a trauma unit for a long time or in the cemetary.
Remember this. The patch is hard to get, harder to keep and can be taken in an instant.
January 19th, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Here’s an article you can read.
This particular HA was a state leader.
http://www.myfox8.com/wghp-death-investigation-090716,0,1179517.story
January 19th, 2010 at 7:08 pm
personally to 1 percenters here, have you ever seen one of your brothers pimp women against their will? or rape one of the women at the club?
January 19th, 2010 at 7:48 pm
personally to 1 percenters here, have you ever seen one of your brothers pimp women against their will? or rape one of the women at the club?
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NO……I saw an OLD timer sell his girlfriend for a quarter one night…and I MEAN 25 cents, Not drugs….She didn’t give a shit, she seemed to think it was fun..Beautuful girl too, she was a part time Model…BUT, it was the life she wanted!
He has went to Red and White heaven since, I have no clue where she went!
January 19th, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Gangs? why is it when a group of like-minded people decide to ban together they are always considered a gang? I mean how many “gangs” do charity rides and actually help there brethern in true tough times? I know my brothers have helped me in times of serious need; bills were paid, many nights of couch surfing at there houses when I am put out of mine, an ear to listen when ive got a lot on my mind. Look at a “gang” of todays youth: they dont much give a shit about each other and more than half the time ones scared and the rival is glad. they join for protection rather than purpose. If youre scared face it, dont hide behind a name and expect things to be okay b/c once you do that trouble begins. Face your problems like a man, or woman, or run like a coward.
January 19th, 2010 at 8:34 pm
Pretty well worded!
January 19th, 2010 at 8:56 pm
So they found a member of The Hells Angles dead in his home .I don’t understand why the consider them gang members ,they don’t go out killing their own kind .
January 19th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
Fool.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Not to jump in most gangs r like that but not all of them are I should kno bikers if u picture it r a lil bit da same just a lil some gangs take care of their own just like bikers do some dnt only do it cuz their scared but to make a name for themselves I kno I did it but it was 4 a completely differnt reason nd it was barely even a gang mayb in ur eyes that’s wat it is but u got to c the big picture
January 19th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Gezzus fuckin Keeeerist people…STOP writing like a teen on a cell phone when you talk to adults, Use WORDS..NOT letters! Or get the fuck off adult conversations….
I take for granted when I see “u” instead of ‘you” I am talking to a Teen…Grow the fuck up!
January 19th, 2010 at 9:48 pm
It really shouldn’t matter as long as uuuuuuuuuuuu understand wat im sayin
January 19th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
I just dont see mc’s as gangs.Idk I am knew to all this ,and I have done my research and don’t think they are the same at all.
January 19th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
No it does matter, when I thinbk an adult spoke..I listen………, when I think a fuckin idiot teenage punk speaks, I will waste 2 post “trying” to point out to them they sound like a “idiot” in writing, then after that, figure they are a teenaged punk, and ignore them!
Your call!
January 19th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
I aint no punk but I am a teen I don’t give a dam if u listen to wat I have to say every1s simpley commentin nd I beleave I can do the same weather u like it or not im interested on wats on dis website idc if u got a problem wit dat ur actin more childish then I am by complaning about baby shit
January 19th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
First off if a teenage punk spoke up I would ignore them to ,me I am 28 ,and far from a punk .your call
January 19th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
You said: I aint no punk but I am a teen I don’t give a dam if u listen to wat I have to say every1s simpley commentin nd I beleave I can do the same weather u like it or not im interested on wats on dis website idc if u got a problem wit dat ur actin more childish then I am by complaning about baby shit
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I’m gonna break my own rule, and reply one more time, “On Line”, YES you are acting like a PUNK…”an Adult pointed out to you to stop talking like a kid on his cell phone,” Yet instead, “you mouth off”…My money is on, You will be a PUNK forever! Untile you learn to pay attention, and actualy think about what you were told!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
BTW, I NECER ignore a Teen, I used to be one, I always cut them slack..they are our future..
What you hope for, is those few that listen!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
LOL, Never, Not Necer….
January 19th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
Then explain things better everyone learns in different ways!!!I am not talking smack nor plan to online ,I want to learn as much as I can .If some one has the patiance to teach then I am willing to listen and to learn
January 19th, 2010 at 10:12 pm
K den
January 19th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Then explain things better everyone learns in different ways!!!I am not talking smack nor plan to online ,I want to learn as much as I can .If some one has the patiance to teach then I am willing to listen and to learn
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Good nough…Then, … rather than make smart ass comments, keep your mouth shut and “listen”, us old grey beards can help!
Just like told to the other guy that wanted to join,,,,Number one rule is “Shut the fuck up” , Listen , and Learn!
hard to do…but pays the best!
January 19th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
OK
January 20th, 2010 at 7:03 am
Well looks like they deleted my last post, so I will try again.. just wondering Jameskde what state are you in? because I thing it hard to find one that isn’t one of outlaw clubs territory. how many of you have watched the old documentary Hells Angles Forever. I think you can only get it in VCR but not sure. It has a a lot of answers to most of your questions.. like why the gov. has tagged us with GANG instead of club. Who and how the war started between HA and the mongols. Oh by the way the us gov. has made the statement that: If 80% of the M/C were to come together we would be the only force that could and would defeat the US military… and you all wounder why they keep us fighting with each other, And talk shit in the news on us being criminals, Hell we all know the largest GANG in the world is law enforcement. and to all of you who don’t understand clubs and club life quit trying you will never understand…by the way EVO (post 190)
so How long were you undercover before you flipped….”Once a cop always a cop” not slamming you just the truth.
January 20th, 2010 at 7:17 am
I am in Kansas. I will have to go online an find that tape bc I honestly want to learn.I believe that I am one of the few now a days or where I am from that will do what he says and what it takes to get something done no matter what the out come is ,my word is my bond
January 20th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Kansas = Gallooping Goose , the oldest and most respected Outlaw club in the US, I still think your in over your head, But , hook up with the GG, they are a great bunch of men!
January 20th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
JAMESKDE – You are nieve if you think they don’t kill their own kind. It has happened more than you might think and they will do it when the club is severely wronged.
And if you look at the history in the news papers about this you will see nothing as to where somebody else has been killed in retaliation for this.
ONLY the cops have tried to do something by making some foolish arrests to try and make themselves look good, because I can assure you that if this wasn’t sanctioned all hell would have broken loose because the HA’s would have found the killer by now.
Remember. He was the STATE president, so you have to find it very odd the killer is still on the loose 6 months later.
As far as the women go….I can say that I have NEVER seen a club member pimp a woman against her will. By the same token IF something like that were to happen it’s none of my business to begin with.
As long as what he is doing doesn’t interfere with what I might be doing or interfering with club business, then I could care less.
When it comes to wives and girlfriends, you need to remember something else. The women know NOTHING when it comes to club business and it is the responsibility of the member to keep his old lady in line. Her actions reflect on the member and what she says or does can get people hurt.
First time she screws up the club officers will bitch at him and her, and he will be told to keep her in line or the club will do it for him.
Second time something happens, BOTH OF THEM will be beaten to hell and she will NEVER be allowed to come to ANY social gatherings.
In the case of the HA’s, they do not allow their women to go to much of anything, including parties at their own club house and they are very strict about this.
January 20th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
so another words women are not allowed to talk or have an opinion? you say its none of your business if a member pimps a woman out. so your saying if one of the members was pimping out a 12 year old, that would be cool with the club, and they wouldnt help her in any way? and the women that hang around with them but are wives or girlfriends, you know just hang aarounds or whatever they are called, dont they have to support the club by prositution and service them sexually, and if they say no, then they are beaten, right?
January 21st, 2010 at 2:51 am
Pimp out children? How did you go from women “willingly” selling themselves to pimping out children? My gawd Christy, get some help!
January 21st, 2010 at 3:47 am
some of them have been arrested for child porn, so yeah its only a matter of time before they put them work hooking. and i never said anything about women willingly doing that. women dont willingly prostitute themselves and give every dime to somebody whose gonna beat her and pass her around if she saids no. it would be nice to know that they are there by choice, but i just dont think women choose to be beaten and raped. you cant deny that they dont care if the women of the club or the ones that hangaround with them are hurt or killed.
January 21st, 2010 at 4:30 am
My father was an Outlaw (Iowa Chapter, Des Moines). Funny I never thought this would come up online. As I got older he was ill and was less active with the club but was a member. My mother still has his patch. I remember them as always being respectful to us and my mother. After my dad died my mom says she recieved alot of help and support from his “friends” I can’t deny that. And there are alot of charity rides for different clubs around here. I really don’t know much about it except one of the first times I got drunk was at a biker bar I ran into some of his friends and they thought it was hysterical I was old enough to be in a bar. I know some of them are bad people but then again some fry cooks are bad people. My memories are all good ones. The smell of beer and I immediately see a motorcycle.
January 21st, 2010 at 5:39 pm
CHRISTY – In a MC women do not have ANY say or opinion. What is going on with the club is for members only. PERIOD.
Kids are NEVER involved in this and your suggestion even as an “IF” is so far out it disgusts me and if you said something like that to me face to face I’d rip your throat out! What you suggest crosses the line!
Bikers are VERY PROTECTIVE of children and I can assure you that kids are in a safer environment with bikers around then they are at your local shopping mall. And that doesn’t go just for 1%’ers, the other 99% are just as protective. So you need to get your facts straight before you even make such a comment.
And if you are capable of reading other than what you want to read, I have said on more than one occasion that women do this on their own free will. No a whole hell of a lot of difference if they are working for somebody on the street or in a whore house in Nevada, except that government controls them.
And don’t give me any BS about one being different than the other because in either case they’re STILL whores!
Personally I don’t care what happens to them. Fact is, when you deal with 1%’ers in any kind of business deal you need to understand what they’re all about before you get involved with them. In some ways it is almost like dealing with the mafia, except bikers are much smarter and better organized.
My wife knows her place and keeps her mouth shut and there’s never a problem because she knows what the ramifications would be.
And if you read what MamaBear says here, she’s right on the money. I don’t care if it’s the HA’s, Pagans, Outlaws, or any other MC listed on this list or any other list of 1%’ers, we will take care of our own better than anybody else can.
The rules each club has is exactly what it sounds like. They’re our rules and if somebody doesn’t like it then tough shit. You either deal with it or go away. We don’t care what you think.
Same thing goes for those who want to be a part of the brotherhood. This is the way we do things and that’s it. We are not going to change for ANYBODY. We do this because we want to. We will judge ourselves.
January 21st, 2010 at 7:32 pm
im not talking about the club business, im talking about in everyday social situations. like hanging out with friends, it seems they arent even allowed to talk then either. whores are whores? so that means its okay to beat and rape them? im not talking about the ones that want to do it. im talking about thes they force to do it? you know the ones they take who have never done anything like that and tell them to do it or be beaten. so your wife isnt even allowed to talk? another words women to you all are not human beings? it just feels bad to know that there are little girls around there growing up knowing thats all they can be for a man.
January 21st, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Word u have a point their
January 21st, 2010 at 7:42 pm
Christy
I’m guesing by the way you write, you are a child..by the way you talk, you read too many books!
“SOME” bikers pimp women, ALL those women choose to sell their bodies..”They” WANT the biker for protection…NOBODY is “forced” into the lifestyle, there is no need for force, there are women everywhere willing and wanting to sell their bodies!
Women in club situations, Simply keep their mouths shut, and stay out of club business…HELL,not just women,All Outsiders of all sexes, STAY OUT OF CLUB BUSINESS…..
I have many Red and White friends., there is one subject we never discuss…The Club,,,,I am not a member,and what they do behind those doors is none of my Business!
January 21st, 2010 at 7:43 pm
and also let me ask you this. if a woman is a prostitute for them, and later on she wants to leave for a better life. can she without being beaten or killed?
January 21st, 2010 at 7:47 pm
and also let me ask you this. if a woman is a prostitute for them, and later on she wants to leave for a better life. can she without being beaten or killed?
See all comments on this post here.
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Hell Yes…My gawd come meet some of us, stop reading about it, we are people, not animals! (well most of us).LOL
January 21st, 2010 at 7:56 pm
okay could a woman come hangaround with the club with out being used for sex?
January 21st, 2010 at 8:00 pm
Christy said:
okay could a woman come hangaround with the club with out being used for sex?
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That depends on the woman! “Smart ass” that ask too many questions? NO, She’d be shown the door…quite girl that only is a woman, and doesn’t try to impress people…No problem!
January 21st, 2010 at 8:21 pm
im sorry to red and white, i didnt mean to make you mad. its just hard to believe a woman would just want to shut and not be loved.
January 21st, 2010 at 8:52 pm
im sorry to red and white, i didnt mean to make you mad. its just hard to believe a woman would just want to shut and not be loved.
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What makes you think women are not loved? We love outr women, we love our children….They love their Club(and women and children), WHY do you think we don’t? Becasue some are willing to let women do what they want to do, and make eay money?
I have never in my 54 years seen a biker “push” a woman in to prostitution, I have, even myself, protected women that choose to do so, ….I respected them, they are people making a living in my eyes!
January 21st, 2010 at 8:53 pm
come to australia and meet the finks,coffin cheaters,gypsy jokers,life and death and lots of hard core bikers.oh and the american clubs too..
January 21st, 2010 at 8:57 pm
Australia? shit’s hittin the fan there for 1 %ers!
January 21st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
its just what i heard. that they treat them like they are less than a dog. what about what red and white said. he said whores are whores and he doesnt care what happens to them. it would seem they all think that way. i mean if a woman is willing to get out there and do that for the club then you think she would be loved too. but i dont know its just when you hear people say that over and over you start to beleive it.
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:40 am
Every day social situations are a totally different matter, becuase the women have to support each other while we do our own thing.
And I will reiterate this one more time. A WHORE IS A WHORE!
I don’t care if she’s pulling tricks for me, gypsy or any other person on the planet. When they want to leave they usually leave and not tell anybody. They just up and go some where else.
Fact is, 95% of those who leave one pimp will go to another state and work for another one “looking for something better”.
And don’t blame just the bikers for beating on them because there are a hell of a lot more pimps out there who are not bikers. All you have to do is go to any major city on the planet and see for yourself.
Like any other illegal activity it all boils down to whos turf it is. If you cross the boundaries then you can expect trouble, and if you want to control somebody elses turf then the biggest and strongest will prevail.
It’s just like the old days of the mafia. All of them had their turf and unless you were willing to go to war you stayed home, so to speak.
Only those that are blind to the realities of life are leading sheltered lives and don’t know what the real world is all about.
1%’ers do what they want when they want to do it and nobody will stop them. They pick and choose their fights, pick up the pieces afterwards and continue on.
Just when law enforcement thinks they have MC’s crippled, the MC stands up and gets bigger and stronger than before.
Over the years you will see that people in the mafia will do anything they can to save their own hides. Cops are no better either. None of them are willing to go to jail so they spill their guts and end up in witness protection. (See Sammy “The Bull” Gravano”)
Cops screw up every thing (See OJ Simpson) and their stupidity is what keeps things up and running.
January 22nd, 2010 at 2:55 pm
I tried one of the suggestions on this site and it worked pretty well. I made a homemade Outlaws cut using some magic markers, then I wore it to the local HA clubhouse. I pretty much just barged in (or “bargered in” as the HA’s say, apparently become of some dude named Sonny) and told them I was there to kick ass and take names.
They just laughed, then shoved me into a big wooden box and mailed me to an Outlaws clubhouse in Illinois, with a note stapled to my ass that said “We think this might be yours.”
So, tring the homemade colors doesn’t work. It’s nice the see the two clubs get along well enough these days that they’ll try to return each other’s stuff via the postal system.
January 22nd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Oh, by the way, when I say it “worked pretty well”, that was sarcasm. And I should also add that when the Outlaws opened the box, the beating they gave me was pretty much as savage as the one I got from the Red & White crew who put me in the damn box to start with.
So, my advice: No homemade colors.
January 22nd, 2010 at 3:06 pm
ROFLMAO…..
January 22nd, 2010 at 3:41 pm
The comedian with the clown b/s story does make a good point: Posers end up as very real hospital patients.
January 22nd, 2010 at 3:48 pm
Gives the Prospect’s soemthing to do.,,….
January 22nd, 2010 at 4:46 pm
You’re lucky that the box wasn’t your permanent residence.
I just wonder how many more fools will show up here and think people like myself and Gypsy are blowing smoke up your asses?
And even though he and I support different clubs the end result is still the same.
Here are 2 popular thoughts of 1%’ers.
1) The time we spend in jail for assault will be less than the time it will take for you to recover from your injuries, and chances are your injuries will be permanent.
2) Even if I kill you and spend the rest of my life in jail, I’ll still be alive longer than you.
January 22nd, 2010 at 5:38 pm
A guy is waiting in line at the gates of Heaven, hoping for admission, with two people waiting in front of him. St. Peter asks the first guy in line “What great or brave thing have you done that makes you worthy to enter?”
The guy says “Well, back in the war, I ran out of my foxhole and dragged several of my buddies to safety under heavy enemy fire.”
St. Peter opens up his big book and says “Oh yes, here it is. You may enter.”
St. Peter asks the next guy in line “And you? What heroic thing have you ever done?”
The second guy says “There was a huge apartment building on fire, and I rushed in and was able to save an entire family that was unconscious by dragging them to safety before the firefighters even arrived.”
St. Peter checks the book and says “Yes, I see it here. You may enter.”
He asks the third guy “And what brave act have you done to make you worthy?”
The man responds “I was at this bar and I noticed a bunch of Bandidos harassing a couple of women who were there. I walked right up to the bikers and told them to knock it off that instant, or I would have to do something about it.”
St. Peter checks his book, then says “I don’t see that in here. When, exactly, did this happen?”
The guy says “About two minutes ago.”
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:07 pm
i guess im hearing two different stories. gypsy said they love women and you say you all treat them like whores and dont beat them up if they dont talk. you said that HA dont allow women at their club or parties, yet i read sonny bargers book where he said they go out of their way to make the women feel safe at their parties. so you admit you do beat them? if she leaves without tellin them, is that when you all go after her? you said the women need to support each other while you do your own thing, why would they need to support each other?
January 22nd, 2010 at 6:42 pm
You’re seeing only what you want to see here. I’m not going to explain this again because you certainly do not understand.
January 24th, 2010 at 12:25 am
no im seeing what they say on documentaries, where the members even say they treat all women like hookers, where they can sell them if they want. so yeah it is hard to understand when there are 100 different stories, so it is hard to know who to beleive. but yeah the members say if the woman who is property of the whole club, if she says no to anykind of sex, then she gets a “beatdown”. that being said, it is hard to believe that these same women can just up and leave the club if they want without being beaten.
January 24th, 2010 at 4:52 am
Does any one know where I can pick up a cheap motorcycle ???
January 24th, 2010 at 11:23 am
Christy You don’t want to a be whore or get a beating,so find a new cause. Keep your eye on your freedoms {speech for one]and your leaders of this country. One day it may be these “bad bikers” who save your butt. If you can’t understand this, go back to your room and play with ‘Ken &
Barbie! Nuff said.
January 24th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Well said parts. I’m not going to answer her any more because she can’t be more than a kid and if she is she needs to get out of her shell.
I hate getting into politics, but THANK GOD FOR MASSACHUSETS. IF they didn’t elect that conservative we’d be set back forever.
January 24th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
LOL, glad to see I am not the only one that got tired of responding to someone that believes what they saw on TV to be the facts!
Good to see some good men did try! But what can you do with someone that refuses to listen and learn?
January 24th, 2010 at 12:29 pm
You have to chalk them up as a liberal. They feed the people only what they want us to see to promote their agenda. They want us to think that they are all good and everybody else is bad and we need to let the government control everything we do or say.
Government should only speak when spoken to and do exactly what the people tell them to do. The people of this country need to wake up and see what’s really going on, but the main stream media has them all brainwashed.
January 24th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Red and White, I’d be honored if you joined us at “nedthetoothpick.com” there are getting far too many liberals there lately!
I’m Skyrider there! Moderator of the biker forum!
January 24th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
I’ll take a look at it and check it out.
Just remember that the liberals are so far to the left they’ve probably separated their shoulder and only giving them a good beating would make them come back to reality.
January 24th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
But punching monitors gets exspencive!
January 24th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
You’re supposed to punch the liberals, not the monitor! LMAO
January 24th, 2010 at 12:52 pm
Thats what I am doing wrong……
January 24th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Which message board on there do the libs whine and cry on?
January 24th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
“Speak Your Mind”
Bikers are in “the Biker bar alley”, we have a great mix of riders…..
January 24th, 2010 at 1:32 pm
first off i am not a kid. documentaries are supposed to be facts, thats why they are called that. but yeah one of the MEMBERS said that they do that to them, and if they say no they get what he called a BEATDOWN. so basically what im asking is if the ones who are property of the whole club, and i know they get passed around and treated like crap, if they wanted to leave the club, could they without being beaten or killed? yeah red i know you said whores are whores, but im not talking about the ones that WANT to be there, im talking about the ones that are kidnapped or whatever the club does to get them there, and then they rape them and beat them until they “convince” them to stay and become hookers or they can die.
January 24th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
they are the ones making it sound like the clubs are involved in basically modern day slavery of women. that they cant go out and have fun or whatever.
January 24th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
LVDV
January 24th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
LVDV….wonder how many figure that one out? Tehy sure in a lot of shit back up north!
January 24th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
no comment
January 24th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
After thinking about it I asked my mother what she thought and what her experiance was like and she said that she is insulted to think that a woman would think that any biker’s wife would be the meek type. Biker women are bad bitches,you have to be. The “don’t ask/don’t tell” policy in a biker and his womans relationship isn’t because he doesn’t love her or care to share his experiance it is out of nessecity. My father didn’t share his exploits with her because she wasn’t worthy or he was trying to keep her ignorant because thats what he wanted to do it’s because that’s what he should have done. He did it because he wanted to take care of us and protect her. As a member of the club he was involved with all his brothers and the clubs business because his business and it wasn’t right or fair to share all of it even as pillow talk. Times aren’t always easy and they do what they have to do to survive and make sure every members family has a roof over their heads and food on the table maybe sometimes those things are clandestine and they keep their families in the dark because they HAVE to. Also if you screw with one of them you’re dealing with all of them and it’s not exactly appropriate for a man to go home and tell his wife how many men they put in ICU that day. As a bikers wife I assure my mother had seen it happen before anyways and didn’t care to know about it. You don’t need to assume these women are just shut out and not allowed to speak at all about anything. My mama was the boss and was very opnionated but about OUR family business not the clubs, because it wasn’t our business because we aren’t members. It’s like this in alot of organizations. You aren’t a member you aren’t included. It’s not just bikers treating their wives like children. That’s BS, my father adored us and his friends were all very nice and respectable. It was said in another comment MC clubs are VERY protective of children, I can tell you from experiance this is true. I don’t have any memories of any big violent brawls or ever being in danger or seeing things I shouldnt see. I had no idea what was going on. My parents had parties and their friends were always nice to us, bringing their own kids for us to play with. I am a grown woman now and I don’t remember my childhood as being anything other than pleasant and my mother was in no way mistreated. Like I said after my father died we were taken care of, I even asked her more about it and she said right after he died they really stepped up and made sure we had everything we needed. Some men exploit and abuse women. Some men DO force women into prositution and beat them but you find these men in ANY walks of life. An accountant gets arrested for beating his wife and having kiddie porn, does that mean ALL accountants must be abusive perverts? Probably not and you can’t judge a group based on a few examples. I think because of the reputation of MC clubs you are assuming that because maybe because some of them have done it, they all must always be like that which is ignorant in any sense.Just because they are bikers it’s easier to believe they are just fundmentally evil which is so far off. You are watching “documentaries” and reading books which will focus on any dramatics to make sure you watch the documentary or read the book. Some guy said on a documentary you saw that they beat up women and pimp them out? Well first of all I highly doubt he meant their wives or girlfriends. These women are cherished and protected, not treated like common whores. And a WHORE is a WHORE. I think he meant that by definition this isn’t a woman of respect or morals. These are woman who for some reason or another have lost the respect of men and other females and now deal with the label they have made for themselves. This is usually through their own actions and not just how women in general are referred. I’m not in a MC club and I don’t know anything about them but I have known some whorish women, you will deal with this just being a part of society. I don’t see where you are getting modern day slavery? What are you sources? You keep saying “you heard” but where did you hear this? There are people right now who live the life and know better than I or you who are telling you it’s not like that and you keep saying “is it okay?”, “do you think that’s okay?” which is asking for the opinion of the person and I thought this was about the club as a whole? They are saying in general your ideas are not reality. Like I said, I’m not in MC club and I really don’t know about it, I’m just giving my experiance and opinion and what my mothers experiance and opinion and since her and my father were together like 25+ years I’m going to take her word for it.
January 24th, 2010 at 3:25 pm
Sorry I didn’t realize that was so long or I would have condensed it.
January 24th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
Also I meant to say “the clubs business BECAME his business” not “the clubs business because his business” lmao. Sorry it’s really long and if I had knew how I would take it down.
January 24th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
TY MamaBear! Pretty much sounds like what I’ve been saying right along and you’re right on the money.
But it will be inevitable that there are those who can’t comprehend this because of their ignorance and watching too much TV.
January 24th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
Momma bear, if I wasn’t already married,to a good woman I’d offer to marry you…You have it down…(even if you do ramble a tad) LOL
January 24th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
She has it down because she’s been there and knows the story.
January 24th, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Does any one know where I can get a cheap bike at ,even if it is a fixer up???????
January 24th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Define Cheap ….I have 2 iron head sportsters, I’d take 2 grand for one and 3 for the other, Both first year year the shifter switched sides to the left, so they have a Loooong shifter arm with funny linkage to make them switch! BOTH have fresh motors! I have a 750 honda chopper I’d sell for 800, that has a good motor, and needs attention, it hasn’t been ridden since 92…. Or a 1975 yamaha 250 dual sport( DT 250) with only 1700 miles on the original bike! Still factory rubber! for 1500!
what do you call cheap?
January 24th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Tell me more about the honda chopper if you can send some pictures of it. Also the 2 grand sportster. jameskde@yahoo.com thanks
January 24th, 2010 at 8:04 pm
MAMABEAR! I lov U! may be long ,but from the heart.
Those who know, understand,the clubs.Someone has
filled this one full of crap.Also thanks to Red &
White and you to Gypsy. Ride Safe,Ride Long!
January 25th, 2010 at 1:30 am
mamabear, see even you said that some of them force women to hook for them, and if they are forced then no they are not WHORES, they are VICTIMS. and they beat them when they try to leave. thats what i mean by modern day slavery. i can hardly see any difference between them and the ones who sell children into it. when you hold somebody by using violence and not let them leave if they want, yeah thats slavery. alot of people say the clubs do it, and when you hear it so many times from the members and other people, you start to believe it. i know some of the clubs try to justify it by saying the women want to do that, but they dont. no woman wants to risk getting raped or beaten or killed by a customer, just so she can give all her money to a person or the whole club who end up doing the same thing to her if she says no or if she comes up short on the money. sorry if ive been told a different story than what actually happens to them.
January 25th, 2010 at 1:55 am
Ok just to clarify any woman being forced into prostitution is a victim not a whore, you are correct. But you are also majorly taking my words out of context. I said some MEN do it. That means the worlds entire population of men, you will find it no more common in a MC club than you do in a Vespa club. It seems like you pick and choose certain statements instead of reading the entire thing. LoL My 3 year old has the same problem, he only hears what he wants to hear. And you’re saying no woman wants to risk getting killed or raped just to give up their money? Well since you like documentaries so much check out ‘Hookers at the point’ by Brent Owens. You will see quite a few women on there who discuss how they willingly give their money up to their ‘daddies’ (pimps). Alot of women CHOOSE to do that, you know why? Because they are also getting something. Either drugs or protection or maybe just companionship. You don’t have to believe everything you hear. Just because someone says it doesn’t mean it’s true. You are getting it straight from the horses mouth and still seem to be in denial about the reality of the nature of MC clubs. You keep saying the same thing over and over, I don’t understand. I think violence against women is just as wrong as you do but I am also taking this personal because honestly I feel like youre talking about my dad. My mother was a MC club members wife for 27 years, and she is telling you that is not how it is. Biker women are strong and proud and can kick plenty of ass themselves of need be, who do you think holds down the fort when the men are off taking care of buisness?
January 25th, 2010 at 7:56 am
MamaBear….As all of us have tried to educate her, she has a comprehension level that only allows her to see and hear what she wants to see and hear.
She will inevitably come up will the same questions & statements no matter what any of us say here, and I can only attribute this to being a part of the far left of this country, because this is typical of them.
With the way they feed us info by telling us only what they want us to hear and their own version of the truth is what makes people fall victim to their thinking and attitudes.
And if this is the only outlet of media that you have ever listened to then you have to see it as absolute, and that is a shame.
Those of us who know what the deal is will never argue. But you’re wasting your breath with that one, ESPECIALLY since she has brought kids into the equation once again.
If this conversation would have taken place on the street, I would have walked away from her a long time ago just to avoid the stupidity. LOL
January 25th, 2010 at 8:00 am
And by the way….My old lady is more than capable and HAS TCB when the moment has arisen, and has even been praised by the Red & White for it. She more than has their respect.
January 25th, 2010 at 8:15 am
Well compiled! I’d put this in the exact order… I admire Hell’s Angels.
January 25th, 2010 at 9:49 am
okay well look im trying hard to believe you, cause i would like nothing more than for it to be true. what ive written and asked you all was the stuff thats been fed into my head for the last 5 years. so it is hard to erase it all when youve been told thats how women are treated in clubs.
January 25th, 2010 at 9:58 am
Then explain all the patch holders that are Married, and raising a family!…
January 25th, 2010 at 10:16 am
exactly , and they wouldnt want somebody doing that crap to their daughters, but somehow its ok when the club is doing it to a woman. i didnt say they dont have families.
January 26th, 2010 at 10:14 am
It was funny when History Channel’s “Gangland” did a show on the Sons of Silence. Some of the club members were actually wearing shirts that read “Hey Gangland, film this” with a picture of a hand giving the middle finger.
By the way, the Sons of Silence are a REAL MC, not to be confused with the fictional Sons of Anarchy.
January 26th, 2010 at 10:16 am
Oh yeah, I was wondering if the method used by the Devil’s Diciples (sic) of intentionally keeping their numbers low really pays off for them. Supposedly they can fly under the radar for the mostpart because they keep things tight, and don’t allow a lot of new members. They must really put their prospects through a lot of shit if they have such low admission numbers.
January 26th, 2010 at 10:25 am
Every club will do their own thing when it comes to numbers and nobody except the DD’s can say if keeping the numbers low pays off. None of us will really ever know and the clubs will NEVER tell you what their numbers are.
And the DD’s aren’t the only MC that puts prospects through shit. Most major MC’s put the club first and a prospect is at their beckoned call 24/7. They don’t care if you’re working, on a vacation, with your kids or in bed with your old lady. When they tell you to go somewhere, you do it at that instant not when you’re ready because you are to be ready 24/7. Period.
January 27th, 2010 at 12:22 am
what about comanchero’s, coffin cheaters, the finks, rockers, devils deciple’s and so on and so on……
January 27th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Do the HAs have any alliances?? I’ve heard that the Pagans, Mongols, Outlaws and Bandidos will ally themselves with each other at times in order to put up a combined front against HAs taking territory in certain areas of the country. Is this just bullshit? Do these clubs align themselves when necessary? Do the HAs have any allies, or merely smaller clubs that support them? Somebody even implied that clubs that are allied with each other will wear “support” patches for one another. I’ve never seen any actual evidence of this. Would an Outlaw actually wear something showing support for, say, the Pagans or Bandidos? I find that very hard to swallow.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
To all the women that are out there and skeptical on the “Property Of….” patches….I wear a property patch. I know the history channel does a great job TRYING to explain what they think its like but they do a horrible job! My patch is something I wear with honor and with pride. To me, I was told all about it and was aware of everything it entailed. I enjoy showing civilians that I travel into, o lets say, a local bar setting with at least two “body guards” aka 1%’s……. I love all the guys to death and they are more of a family than i have ever known! Give these guys a chance and I hated girls that hung around bikers for a long time so i am on both sides of the fence!
January 27th, 2010 at 9:04 pm
Thank you Miss Kitty. Although I doubt it will make much of a differance at this point, we have all been trying to explain the reality of a MC clubs relationships with females and it seems to just be going in one ear and out the other. You sound exactly like my Ma. My father has been dead since 2001 (Sept 11th, though not at the WTC but that tragedy on top of losing my Dad was just another punch in the gut!) and I know for a fact if my mom or us kids were to need anything we could stll reach out for help to his “brothers.” You have experianced the life firsthand and know exactly what you’re talking about. I wish the ignorant spouting how awful 1%r’s treat their women would actually hear what you’re saying but at this point I doubt it. Thanks for putting in the insight of a female who is currently in the lifestyle and trying to set the record straight. Kudos!
January 27th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
Well thank you MamaBear! I just know that I have never, ever met a group of guys who were more respectful, caring, protective, and kid oriented in my life. And I know that in other places in the US beating on women may be okay…..but around my area and at all the houses and homes here, domestic violence is NOT IN ANYWAY TOLERATED! We do so many things (I say we because I help so much with events) that are centered around kids/family that the public has learned that you don’t have to fear, just respect. The guys are great and I have yet to meet one who is a complete asshole to a woman with a patch or a civilian woman!
January 28th, 2010 at 6:19 am
The Stones did not ‘allegedly’ hire the HA’s at altamont, they DID!
And the bad scene that occurred was a result of the bad vibes deliberately engendered by the stones.
The guy that was killed had a loaded gun, used it(!) and was approaching Keith and the Others on stage… c’mon..
get real.
January 28th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
I have yet to see any of the other major clubs banding together against the HA’s and they will tend to do it on their own accord.
And you will never see ANY of the major clubs wearing a support patch of any kind for another club because they are still enemies towards each other for turf.
Anything concerning or involving smaller clubs is club business and I won’t discuss that.
Just remember this though. No matter where you go there is a dominant club somewhere, whether it’s HA’s, Outlaws, Bandidos, Pagans, Vagos or whomever, and ANYBODY who wants to start a club whether it’s a 1% or 99% MUST get permission from the dominant club, and you have to inform them which category you’re going to be in.
In either case, they will tell you to come up with ideas as to what patch you would like to have. 1% must be a 3 piece, and the others have to be either 1 or 2 piece.
And the process goes from there.
I have my reasons for supporting the HA’s and my reasons are known only by those who are closest to me.
Citizens will never know why and there are reasons for that.
As far as the “Property Of” patch goes, that is strictly for the women and that is a decision made by each and every club.
I any place that I have been around the HA’s, there has never been a MC that has had the “Property Of” patch and that is an individual club thing.
My wife is totally against them and would NEVER wear one.
By the same token, the clubs that are in this state are very well aquainted with each other and we all know who the wives and girlfriends are and are ALWAYS treated with the utmost respect at all times, and will be protected at all times.
Wives, girlfriends and kids are in the safest place when we are around each other.
Hell, they even get their chops broken and are the brunt of some dam good jokes just as much as we are! All it takes is somebody to decide that it’s time to have some fun and it’s as random as it will ever get.
And TRUST ME….NOBODY is immune when the jokes and pranks start flying!
Like the old saying goes….Bikers have more fun than people do.
January 29th, 2010 at 9:21 am
yeah well if the wives and girlfriends arent treated badly, i was talking about the women who wear a patch thats says property of the whole club, and there are clubs that have those, they are the ones passed around and used by the whole club and they dont have a say in who takes their turn with them, they just have to do it or be beaten. you said your wife knows to shut up or be beaten, but if the club doesnt share the club business with them, then why would they need to watch what they say if they dont know about club business? seems to me they just made up that whole thing as a reason to beat on them.
parts, you said i dont want to be a whore or get a beating, get a new cause. why would i need to worry about that? the clubs “dont do that to women”, remember?
January 29th, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Thanks for the response, Red & White.
It sounded like bullshit, but I just wanted to make sure. I could see different 1% MCs possibly doing business — strictly business — with each other if it puts money into both clubs’ pockets, and if there is a good reason to do so. But the idea of them wearing each other’s patches just sounded a bit out there.
As for this whole thing about old ladies, it sounds like each club has its own guidelines or rules. Those who want to be a part/supporter of that club will follow them. Chicks love bikers, so there will never be a shortage of potential old ladies, most of which will probably do whatever it takes to wear property patch (or whatever the rules are for that club). I’m sure 1% MCs aren’t worried about running out of women anytime soon.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
your right flightless, they will never run out of women. you cant run out if they are never allowed to leave.
January 29th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
Then why are there plenty of ex old ladies around?
January 29th, 2010 at 6:17 pm
A little clarification here.
A woman that is considered an old lady is the wife of somebody with the club. That includes hangarounds, prospects and those that are patched.
There are some members who have been with the same woman for years and nver got married, but is still considered his old lady because of the time they’ve been together. Same hold true with the mafia.
Lets not have any illusions about girlfriends on the side either. Most generally these guys will have a girlfriend on the side in towns they will frequent the most. (The mafia called them a gumar)
That bit of tail on the side is also considered off limits just as well.
Flightless Bird….Don’t waste your time with that one. She’s been too programmed to see only one thing and think it’s gospel.
January 29th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
I gotta thank you Wuffo’s(Wuffo, commonly used by skydivers, (which I am) to discribe clueless people that keep say “wuffo you jump out them planes?”), that keep responding to this artical, I haven’t had this many laughs at ignorance in a long time!
You have heard from people that know, and live the life, yet you still argue what you “Think”!
January 30th, 2010 at 12:27 am
how you doing red and white? Ive been on vacation for a bit, thought I would drop by and say Hi. I see the bros and sisters are trying to educate LOL, one thing I can say to these guys is it is hard to get into a club if you havent grownup around it and been part of the family all your life, for those that want to join If you dont already know someone in the club or been hanging around for a long time, especially the top clubs you got a hard road to hold getting in, the older members are really critical and untrusting of outsiders, you might get lucky and get accepted by one of the less wise and newer members or should I say one of the ones that havent been sent to prison for trusting someone they should not have I just say good luck, LOL.
January 30th, 2010 at 3:09 am
flightless, the reason there are still ex ol ladies around is because they arent allowed to leave. if they leave it ends up one of two ways,they end up in the hospital or end up in the grave.
red and white, tail on the side? wow i thought you said they care about and love there wives and kids. the wives dont care about that? oh yeah thats right the club makes sure the woman shuts up about it. you said its like the mafia? arent the mafia the ones that are involved in human trafficking of women and children?
January 30th, 2010 at 3:22 am
another thing is if they are no longer with the club, then im guessing 99 percent of the ex ol ladies are in their 60’s and 70’s. clubs arent exactly known for keeping a woman around once she gets older. so yeah maybe if she reaches 70, she will get thrown aside and get to leave, but thats after shes been used up by everybody in the club.
January 30th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
“The Mongols MC are now prohibited by law from the use of the Mongol MC logo and insignia including wearing the patches on vests or any other garb.”
Why only the Mongols?
January 30th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
christy is an ex ol lady who was used up by everybody in the club.
January 30th, 2010 at 7:06 pm
The Mongols deal was something Cavasos agreed to after his arrest and he sunk their ship for doing tha,t and I can assure you that he’s a marked man. So unless he’s put in solitary or in the hole they’ll get him.
XFED! What’s up!? Was that a voluntary vacation or involuntary? LOL
I’m TRYING to educate but the blind and stupid are just that! They ask the same questions a million times over and then they become ignorant as to what you just said.
Makes you wonder if they understood Sesame Street or Romper Room.
I’ve ignored the dumbest one because a bottle of nitro couldn’t get through that thick skull. I can onjly imagine what my reaction would be face to face with that. LOL
January 30th, 2010 at 10:55 pm
Ok y’all, do your homework. Judge Cooper ruled last July 31st that the gov’t can’t sieze the patches (details are all over the ‘Net)…which is why the Mongols are flying in the open. Cooper died a couple weeks ago, so the trials of the remaining Mongols who were arrested are up in the air, and you can count on the fact that the ATF will seek to get Cooper’s ruling changed in the process. Even if the Feds win, Mongols will very likely form a new club, so WTF? Why is the gov’t even bothering with this petty crap? And, yes, Cavazos is toast. You don’t give up your bro’s let alone your club. You die for your club.
January 31st, 2010 at 2:54 am
Red @ White supporter, who are you supporting? Talking a bunch of shit you’ve read? If you really are supporting the Red and White, you should close your mouth, show some fucking respect! You don’t have a clue. Most all of you, have over thought and analyized what it’s really all about. There’s alot of mis-guided fear in you people and it’s what you know about yourselves, inside, that holds you back. That’s why this way of life intriques you all, YOU WISH YOU COULD DO IT! It’s not about kicking ass and selling dope. If you aint looking for what it is, then you don’t need it or you may already have it. If you have to be told how, then forget it!!!
January 31st, 2010 at 7:03 am
actually red and white, im just repeating what you said.
you said women are whored out by the guys
you said if your wife doesnt shut up, you beat her
you said the club is like the mafia, and i said they are the ones involved with human trafficking of women and children for sexual slavery, which means you guys are like that too.
you said whores are whores and you didnt care what happens to them, and wouldnt help them if they were being beaten or raped.
you said it was none of your business if a member was pimping out women, even if it was a 12 year old.
you said you guys love your wives and girlfriends but have tail on the side.
you said women cant talk in the clubs.
you said if they do, then they are dealt with, which means beaten or killed.
if they are property of the whole club, then they are passed around until they are used up, and if they say no then they are beaten and raped.
and the reason they stay there is because they cant leave if somebody is using violence to enslave them and making them do disgusting things.
you said the clubs are not into child pornography but plenty of them have been charged with that crime. im not saying they all do it but yeah some are charged with it, and you said kids were safer at the clubs than anywhere else.
women dont get a say in who takes their turn with her, she just has to do it or be beaten, and still be raped.
women can be sold or traded to other members, yeah that sounds like something she would enjoy.
all of these things are what you said and what others have said.
January 31st, 2010 at 8:23 am
Grizz I abolutely have a clue because I’ve been there and I have said or done nothing that is disrespectful. I haven’t given away any secrets or club info at anytime to anyone and if I have them my life wouldn’t be worth a nickle because you and I both know they have a pulse on every site that has to do with club life and they’re ALWAYS interested in seeing who is saying what.
And as far as the Mongols go they may have got their patches back, but as far as how they lost them is factual. I know all about the lawsuit from the deal that was struck early on and it was something that had EVERY 1% club had an eye on because if it could happen to one club then it could happen to the others.
I’m not saying that the agreement had a total binding status and I knew dam well there would be a fight over it because it is something the Feds want and they are actually hell bent on getting rid of Club Colors.
Personally I doubt that will EVER happen and IF it happened it would end up in the Supreme Court.
I know that the HA’s have copyrights and trademarks to their colors, but I’m not sure if any of the other clubs have done so which creates more legal issues.
January 31st, 2010 at 3:33 pm
I read a list of hells angels crime stories on the internet. I did not realize Hells angels had so many members that kill women and children. I was very surprised to read about Nevada Hells angels getting caught with child pornography.
January 31st, 2010 at 8:54 pm
Oh My Gawd…
You are a SUCKER for Media..
My Son’s compuer had child porn all ober it…Guess what? It ALL came for “Limewire” they got hacked, and thta shit was in the hardrive..(we always check his computer) Limewire has fixed it since!
But this guy own a brothel, I have no doubt, EVERY kind of sex sight was on it…Child porn is thrown in by many sights…. BTW, since the Feds took over his whore house, they went broke, and I am betting you are an Obama Voter…that thinks Government is your best way out!
January 31st, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Dang, they all need to get better graphic designers!!!
February 1st, 2010 at 1:32 pm
well to all you citizens . i have friends from some of these metioned clubs. i def want these guys watching my back . at least i know they would not be running with there tails tucked between ther legs. hell the politions in the U.S. are bigger crooks and drug dealers. than any of these clubs put together.
February 1st, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Cracks me up whenever I see a biker gang riding around on crappy American made Harlie Davissons. I always give em the finger and remind them that real men only ride Hondas. I’ve had to beat up a buncha bikers to get the point across. Most of em are smart enough not to mess with a Honda man, but some are dumb, and end up on the wrong end of my anger. The Sons of Anerchy used to be the Dads of Anerchy until I beat some of them sensless for not riding on Hondas, so they changed the name.
February 1st, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Okay Christy…I think you should know something. Don’t you dare say:……”i was talking about the women who wear a patch that’s says property of the whole club, and there are clubs that have those, they are the ones passed around and used by the whole club and they don’t have a say in who takes their turn with them, they just have to do it or be beaten”….. unless you know 100% what the fuck your talking about! I AM A PROPERTY OF! MY OL’ MANS NAME IS NOT ON MY VEST…. SO AM I PROPERTY OF THE WHOLE CLUB? DO I GET PASSED AROUND??? AM I EVER IN HARMS WAY?? NO NO AND FUCK NO. I will tell you one thing, before you get on here and say shit that you THINK you know, be sure of it. Those are the kind of comments that will make you not welcome by any patched out member, thier ol’ ladys’, and property of’s. Why don’t you open your eyes and look at the real story here. You are going to just assume something is true without even asking???? I am a “property of” of one of the top 5 clubs on here. I am just disgusted that you would believe anything else than the truth right in front of you: THE REAL THING!
February 1st, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Honda Men don’t even need old ladies. We don’t even like women. Yucky. We way too cool for them.
February 1st, 2010 at 9:29 pm
miss kitty, how do i know that you are not just saying that so you wont get beaten?
i know there are those who wear property of one member, i know there are those who wear property of the whole club. yes there are those who dont wear a patch , and i know that they treat them like shit, just like they do to all the women and children. i would not be welcome by the clubs? of course not, im not a hooker or a child for them to hold down on the club floor and take their turn with. you know they have been convicted with crimes from prostitution to child pornography. and yet these are the same ones that you would leave your kids with? i wouldnt reckon that women have much of a choice when they are around the clubs. you know that women have been beat just for saying no to sex with whoever wants their turn with her. and if they say no to selling their bodies for the club or their men, then that also gets them a beatdown. so dont go trying to make them out to caring about women, because reality is, they dont care if they live or die, just so long as they are available for sex whenever anybody wants it, no matter what. like i said if the woman or the child says no to them for sex or selling their bodies then they are beaten or/and raped.
February 2nd, 2010 at 10:39 am
List is off. Should be HA #1, Outlaws #2, Bandidos #3, Pagan’s #4
February 2nd, 2010 at 11:37 am
I came by this list, looking info on a gang about someone I know, who I would never have believed, was in a biker gang/club. I have to say after a bad start to the day the comments following the list made me laugh so much. You guys are a riot and I thank you for making my day . I love it, only in America.
And a interesting list that included the gang/club I was looking for.
February 2nd, 2010 at 12:37 pm
the outlaws and bandidos did team up but it was in NW europe in scandanavia against HA
February 2nd, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Christy, your an idiot. Your also funny. Today I find your comments funny. Do you actually believe what your saying, or are you just trying to keep this thread going? Have you ever thought that these women that have had sex with multiple guys, like that sort of thing? As far as child pornography, WTF! That’s not acceptable anywhere, even in the prison system, which i’m sure you think all those dirty, nasty inmates are all rapist and child molesters also. So, I don’t like quoting statistics, because they may or may not be true, but heres one. Suposedly, theres one petafile employed in every school. Why don’t you get off the bikers and get on some teachers, atleast you’ve been to school and can say “you’ve known some teachers” and everybody might believe you. You know what i’d like to hear? I like to hear some positive comments about bikers. What’s so wrong with trying to live free, hanging with down to earth, say it how it is, know where you stand, BROTHERS and SISTERS, who actually care about the important things, LIKE children, family, and what America should be. GOD BLESS AMERICA, the land of the FREE!
February 2nd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Christy–I only said that because I believe thats the only single thought in your head! I was going to suggest you put as much enthusiasm into supporting our troops as you have cutting down Bikers. A hell of a lot of Bikers are Vets. But ,NO, I really think you and Honda Man should run away together and beat on each other. With some sex of course.
Go Grizzman and Red-White Supporter Go!!!!!
Miss Kitty, you got it going too.
Gotta go now, snow is melting off the Harley.
Ps. Honda Man – Don’t start something you can’t stop!
February 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Just an Observation…Haonda man is someone yankin chains, to point out the idiocy!
Christy I also believe is some fuckin smart ass , simply posting for reaction, which is why I stoped replying to her…IF anyone is as dumb as she pretends…Why waste time talking to them?, they will never learn!
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:09 am
your right grizz, its not acceptable anywhere, but you all dont seem to mind when your brothers are convicted of it. so go figure. no im not replying just to keep the thread going. these are all things that they are known for doing, and i just wanted to know why they do it. i mean why do they hurt women and children and then say they love them? why do they say they love their wives and girlfriends but cheat on them with tale on the side? but if it was the women with dick on the side, you know damn well that they would get beaten. no there is nothing wrong with living free, and freedom, as long as you realize that means everybody should be free. i mean dont say you guys are all about freedom, but then turn around and enslave women and take theirs away from them. no im sorry grizz, no woman wants to fuck multiple guys and then turn around and have to worry about getting beat or raped by those very same guys when she changes her mind and says no. women and children dont seem to get that choice around you guys. and you know its true. if its not, then how do you explain actual members saying it? and i quote “women are women, they are nothing. you treat them like hookers, you can sell them or whatever you want with them. they dont have a choice.” interesting that he would say that, isnt it? sounds like FORCED PROSTITUTION. so yeah dont go making yourselves out to caring about women and children, cause you know the club members dont care if they live or die. yeah it would be nice to hear that the clubs dont force them to do that and beat them and rape them, but its already been said by actual members, and on tv. how dumb is that? im sorry that you cant realize that if the clubs want freedom, then try not to take somebody elses away from them just because they think women are nothing and shouldnt have the freedom that the members have. when the guys can say anything they want anytime, anywhere, but the women have to watch what they say and cant say no to them for sex or selling their bodies, and if they do they get beat or raped? yeah thats not freedom, thats slavery. so much for freedom huh?
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:30 am
Chrissy, do yourself a favor, you won’t listen to answer’s so STOP asking questions!
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:32 am
Matter of fact, do the whole Biker world a favor, and PLEASE avoid Bikers!
Till you grow up and are capable of listening and learning…we are much better off without!
February 3rd, 2010 at 10:43 am
Well, I guess it’s official. Because of one bad seed, I will now think that all chicks named Christy are all dumb asses! Thank you Christy for bringing this to my attention, and saving me from making any future mistakes in the future thinking otherwise. To everybody else, beware, there are no doubt many more Christys out there just waiting to bring your I.Q. level down and you would be well advised to keep your distance to, or suffer the consequences. You’ve been warned!!!
February 3rd, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Why any woman would want to hang with an OMC is beyond me, I guess you like having a train pulled on you or like being a cum receptacle. Woman that hang with bikers have low self esteem and or have been sexually abused by their daddy’s and are looking for love in all the wrong places
February 3rd, 2010 at 1:26 pm
thank you breed. im glad somebody said the truth for once.
February 3rd, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Somebody thinks i’m only joking around so they odviously never ran into the Honda Men MC. WE the baddest of all. We aren’t some silly 1% club. Not exclusive enough. We so bad, we are 1/2%ers. Honda Men eat silly Vagos and Mongols and crap out worthless Harlie Davvison motorbikes.
February 3rd, 2010 at 4:54 pm
FINALLY! Finally somebody went off on Christy and she STILL doesn’t get it!
I’ve had kidney stones that I’ve enjoyed better rather than seeing her stupidity.
AND notice her reaction when somebody told her something that she wanted to see!
Not saying his answer was right by any means because it isn’t, which shows his wannabe status and THINKING he knows what the deal is.
There are a few people here who may have been as far as prospect, and there are some who may already be a patch, and some who have been there and decided it was time to go, and those like myself who have been there, retired and are going back, and some who have been there as the ole lady (no disrespect intended).
In any of these cases WE KNOW EXACTLY what the deal is and we will NEVER discuss club business unless it is directly with a brother.
February 3rd, 2010 at 6:27 pm
club business? yeah rape, forced prostitution, child porn, slavery, yeah just another day of club business
February 3rd, 2010 at 7:03 pm
Christy what is wrong with you? You see a pedophile,pimp and woman beater around every corner? What was it that happened to you as a child that makes you so damn confident all MC club members are like that? Did a man in leather hurt you? Did that make the connection to MC clubs in your mind? Do you want to talk about it? Because you’re actually making me dumber when I read your posts. Why do you keep responding if you’re not interested in anything anyone has to say? You are taking everything out of context and twisting it up, I’m really fearful of your mental health. It seem like you’re suffering from some sort of obsessive paranoia condition. Go back to the beginning of this post and read all the comments again, I mean each word, don’t just pick & choose which ones suit your argument, then tell me how you feel. Because if you don’t realize how dumb you sound than there is no hope.
February 3rd, 2010 at 7:26 pm
what happen to me is nobodys business. i just dont see the clubs being that loving to women. you cant love somebody and force them to hook for you. you cant love somebody and beat on them. you cant love somebody and cheat on them. you cant love somebody and rape them, you cant say you want freedom and then be involved with slavery. im not taking anything out context. i read every post and i get the same impression. they beat them, the rape them, they force them to hook for them, and they have been known to kill them, and they dont let them leave if they want without getting beat.
February 3rd, 2010 at 8:28 pm
I was going to respond to this little whore but I won’t come down to her level.
As I said before….Chances are there are clubs who are reading this and the false accusations you are making will piss them off. I’ll let the other people here respond to your inflammatory accusations.
You obviously have severe mental issues where you should be institutionalized for a very long time where only a court order can get you released.
February 3rd, 2010 at 8:44 pm
they should be pissed off at themselves that they think its okay to do these things to women and children.
February 4th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Christy, do you just hate men in general? Were not all the low lifes that you make us out to be. Yes, there can be violence. If you go to a bar with your friends and you start getting beat up, would your friends help you? Mine will, even if they know were going to get stomped. would you help your friend? I know and so do they, that no matter what, i will be there to the end for better or worse. How far would you go for a best friend, a brother, a sister? Would you help them anyway you could? Would’nt you expect the same? Any of these clubs mentioned DO NOT deal in children! Of course there is always going to be a bad seed, but as you know, theres always one, wherever you go. How long do you think any of us, you included, would stay out of prison and still breathing if we sold children into slavery? You can’t spit on the sidewalk without getting a ticket anymore. If a chic wants to leave or get away, they can. They arent chained in the basement just waiting for every hard on that comes down the stairs. I’m not saying that every biker out there are saints. In every walk of life, things happen, illeagal things, violent things, erotic things. It’s just people living the way they want to. You don’t agree with every law in the books do you? We have become a nation of laws and it’s sad. I think your mad cuz your not a man, that you are forbidden to join a club, or you got kicked to the curb and that really bothers you. There are woman clubs out there, maybe you can have your own man OR woman chained in your basement. would that make you feel better? You could take all your anger out on your own personal slave. I’m starting to sound just as crazy as you! Have a great day, doing whatever it is you do!!!
February 4th, 2010 at 1:30 pm
yeah i would help a friend if they needed it. no i dont hate GOOD men. i would help out anybody that needed it. but you guys dont consider women your sisters, you all consider them property, fuckmeat, moneymakers,slaves,whatever you all call them. and as for as you all selling and raping children, yeah you are gonna stay out of jail for a long time when you got other members helping you duck the law. illeagal things? like rape, forced prostitution, things like that. you said they arent chained to the basement and they can get away when they want? yeah im guessing you dont need chains when you use threats, violence, rape, things like that to “convince” them to stay. cant feel safe to leave when they rape you and will kill you if you tell anybody what they do to you. you said there is always that one bad seed in the group? so you admit some of the mc clubs do rape and beat women and children and make them hook for them? trust me, a man is the last thing i would want to be. of course women are forbidden to be members, you cant have slaves and property as members. they might actually feel useful for something other than prostitution and rape, and the clubs cant have that, now can they. but i bet everyone of those women at one time have wanted to leave and somebody “convinced” them to stay. you said if you were getting beat up, that you all would help each other, right? but lets say a woman was being beaten by her ol man, would you all jump in and help her, or just sit back and enjoy the show? i mean red already said that he wouldnt care. not exactly sounding like your “sisters” now is it? i wouldnt think you would let somebody you consider your sisters get beaten like that. so much for you all being like a family. and ive already read that they get beat up just for talking. so the way it goes is, you guys can say anything you want anytime, anywhere, but the women have to shut their mouths or get beaten or “dealt with”? gotta love that family feeling, huh?
February 4th, 2010 at 5:14 pm
Grizzman….No offense, but you’re not telling her what she wants to hear because she has been brainwashed to the point of no return.
She knows NOTHING about brotherhood and how those of us in MC’s are closer to each other than blood relatives.
She doesn’t know that most of us have been clobbered by a 2×4, cut with a knife or a razor, had a gun pointed in their direction and been around bullets flying around.
Not many can say they haven’t been to a hospital or in iron bracelets protecting each other. We will live or die for our brothers AND our wives.
February 4th, 2010 at 5:26 pm
The Honda Men MC rule the world.
1/2%ers UNITE! JOIN THE HONDAMEN!
February 4th, 2010 at 9:44 pm
LMAO Christy! You make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside! I think I know where your coming from now. You’ve been with men, good men, probably for about 15 minutes until you turned that good man into an insane fucking asshole that kicks the living shit out of you cuz you wont close your fucking mouth! LMAO! You might try looking at office depot or maybe best buy? You might be able to find one of those geeks to put up with your shit, but I seriously doubt it!!! Good luck.
February 4th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
i guess if anybody knows anything about kicking the shit out of women for talking, it would be a club, right?
February 5th, 2010 at 4:35 am
yea highwaymen the shit they run detroit and downriver michigan much love to them they on da rise hope they keep there heads up and stay focused and learn to adapt to these fuckin pigs but they should be on gangland im waitin to see them on that show they should of been on there b4 devils diciples (cause they were on gangland for detroit and even talked bout highwaymen and said they had more) so why no highwaymen come on put em on they run shit and they even got a rock group helicon that put out video bout feds bustin them shit was real and dope but much love to highwaymen!!!!!!
DOWNRIVER DETROIT MICHIGAN
February 5th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Your sewing club, garden club, lets not kick the shit out of woman club, would probably kick the shit out of you. If your so afraid of getting hit while trying to hang with a MC, then don’t do it. I don’t go hang around the local womans club, cuz it’s a WOMANS club!!! And if I did, well, I guess I would have to play by their rules. If I didn’t play by their rules then I would probably make them upset and they wouldn’t want me to hang around with them anymore. In fact, they might even feel disrespected and angry. Obviously, by your previous comments, a MC is not the place for you. You are to close minded to last long. If a man was as argumentative as you are, hed get the shit kicked out of him also. You know, if your arm hurts when you bend it, don’t bend it. If you don’t like being slapped around, then don’t push people to the point where they would slap their own mom’s. Of course you will only see “slap my mom”, and I would never do that…unless it was the only way to shut you up!!! Just kidding. Remember Christy, think before you speak, that should be your life motto.
February 5th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
so your saying the beatings and the rapes are the rules of the club? you are admitting to beating and raping women, and now your trying to justify it by saying its the rules of the club. look ill say this one time. i dont belong to any club, sewing, garden, whatever. i noticed you couldnt answer any of the questions in my last post #497. look all im trying to figure out is why the clubs rape and beat women and children and force them into stripping or prostitution. nobody can seem to give me an answer as to why you all do that. a womans club? so your saying that just because yours is a mans club, women and children can only be used for rapes or beatings or forced prostitution? and you still didnt answer my question. is it true that the men can say what they want whenever they want, but the women have to shut their mouths and not talk about anything, or they get beaten?
February 5th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
HondaMen rule the roads. All others must stand aside — and they do.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:02 pm
Yawn…..
February 5th, 2010 at 4:11 pm
LMAO this is an amazing ability that Christy has! It’s like talking to my toddler, our conversations go like this..
him:mom i wanna have some ice cream and soda while i watch cartoons
me:you know you can’t have ice cream until after dinner and you’re never allowed soda, stop being weird
him:what you say mom? i can have ice cream?
this is probably how conversations with Christy go.
Everytime someone has replied to her she has literally picked and choosed words from the paragraph to form an entirely different response. It’s an amazing gift.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
Quit picking on Christy. We will allow her to be a HondaMen woman. She can proudly wear the “Leased out to ______” patch.
We respect our womens.
February 5th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
they are all gay
February 5th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
How long have been saying that MamaBear….LOL
February 5th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
yeah and my questions still have not been answered. is it really that hard to tell me why the clubs treat women and children like shit?
February 5th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
YOU MISERABLE LITTLE WHORE….WE DON’T TREAT KIDS LIKE SHIT! AND IF YOU DON’T LIKE HOW WE TREAT WOMEN THEN GO AWAY AND GO FUCK YOURSELF!!
I PROMISE YOU THAT IF YOU AND I EVER CROSS PATHS ON THE STREET I’LL PERSONALLY KICK YOUR TEETH IN JUST BY SAYING I TREAT KIDS BAD!
I HAVE A SON AND DAUGHTER AND YOU ARE GETTING TOO PERSONAL WITH THAT SHIT.
YOU BETTER HOPE WE NEVER MEET BECAUSE IF YOU THINK I’M AFRAID OF JAIL, YOU’RE NUTS.
SOME OF THE OTHERS MIGHT BE AFRAID TO SAY WHAT I’M SAYING HERE, BUT I’M NOT.
IGNORANT LITTLE WHORE.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:25 pm
I imagine that if MCs knowingly had somebody who messes with children in their midsts, that person would not be shown much mercy.
February 5th, 2010 at 6:36 pm
Christy, I have really enjoyed this “debate” or whatever it is weve been having, but I am going to try to end it. I’m actually feeling kinda bad (which is weird) in the direction that I have taken it. I don’t know what your situation is, but if you feel trapped or are being abused there are people that can help you. I don’t know who, but there are hot lines, I’m sure. I hope that’s not the case. Cya.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
how you treat women? so red you admit you beat and rape women , and force them into prostitution? grizzman, my situation is difficult to talk about. and im sorry red if you think im some kind of whore. i guess thats all women and children can be to you guys. and as far as the children comment, again you can not deny that some of the members have been arrested for child porn.
February 5th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
I’ve reread these and not once seen Red admit to any of those things,me confused. And you keep saying “some of the members have been arrested for child porn” well maybe a bad seed here or there but did you not get my remark that some accountants have been arrested for it also? Does that make them also kiddie peddlers and women beaters? You are making this a personal issue for people. My childhood and the friends from my childhood who also had MC club members for parents lived VERY sheltered lives. We had NO idea what was going on at anytime. Still don’t. And when I run across friends of my fathers I still an treated with nothing but respect,and asked if my family needs anything. These people that watched me and my siblings grow up never did and still would not put us in harms way. I feel this is a personal issue for you also and something happened or is happening in your life to make you so adamant about this. You have got to get this notion out of your head that MC clubs as a whole treat women and especially children badly. You are being judgmental and ignorant. I feel for you because it is becoming more obvious something very wrong is going on with you or has happened to you, but please stop trying to generalize an entire sub culture of people based on whatever false information you’ve received. Obviously nothing anyone says here will change your mind but I do sincerely hope you get the help you need because I do see that something is not right with you. I hope you are okay.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:09 pm
yes red said if i dont like how they treat women, then go away. that could only mean that they treat them like shit, as nothing more than slaves and punching bags. i just wanted to know why? mc clubs as whole do this because they all claim to be a brotherhood, and that means they help each other do these crimes,or they dont care if one of them is doing that to women and children. so yeah in a way they do it as a whole.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:14 pm
you said maybe one bad seed? well thats one bad seed too many. and i bet you that his brothers dont jump his ass about it. they probly throw him a party for doing it.
February 5th, 2010 at 8:43 pm
I don’t know the exact protocol for dealing with child abusers within a club but I don’t see throwing a celebration party as being realistic, where would you get party decorations for that anyways? Would there be cake and balloons? Maybe a pony?
February 5th, 2010 at 9:06 pm
its realistic to them. i dont know i guess they would welcome them with open arms and all the love in the world on a job well done, same as when they rape and beat women. they all sit back and enjoy the show, when they arent joining in.
February 6th, 2010 at 7:47 pm
i rode with death riders in montreal quebec in late 60s best time of my life, popeyes were biggest gang at that time and change to hells angels.
February 6th, 2010 at 10:35 pm
I think christy is really a dude that got raped and pimped as a kid and is just blaming the entire biker community for it, probly when he was getting screwed in the ass he looked back and it just happend to be some big hairy dude that reminded him of a biker type so naturally all bikers fit right in, typical left winger!!!!!!
February 6th, 2010 at 11:05 pm
I am sure there are a very few child porn bikers in this world just like there are child porn cops, lawyers, politicians, or any other group of people you can think of , so just to put it all on bikers is crazy and that shows in his or her responses to these fine folks on here trying to educate this nut bag. christy or chris just has a prob. with bikers period and is going to say anything he or she can to trigger your anger. this person would never say anything like this to the face of a true 1%er, because someone like red and white and myself would deal with it in the moment and make sure these stupid dont breed!!!!!
February 6th, 2010 at 11:58 pm
Scott Brown for president!!!! I wish I could vote,LOL!!!!
February 7th, 2010 at 12:01 am
no x im not a dude, no matter how much you want me to be. i just simply wanted to know why these clubs treat women like they are nothing. they sell them, they beat them, they rape them, and they force them into prostitution, and yes they do the same with the children. from what im hearing, the men can also say what they want when they want, and the women have to watch what they say or get beaten or raped. thats not FREEDOM, thats SLAVERY. and this coming from guys who are supposed to be all about freedom. and i just wanted to know why the clubs treat women and children like they are nothing but products that they can sell?
February 7th, 2010 at 1:27 am
I ran with the outlaws before I went to prison and I have never heard or seen any of them that had anything to do with child porn ever, I was In the supermax and max federal pen in florence colorado and every child molester there was in the hole and not one of them was a 1%er period.
February 7th, 2010 at 2:41 am
yeah and what about the treating women like shit part? the forced prostitution? the beatings just for talking? the rapes? passing them around without their choice? telling them to do it or die?
February 7th, 2010 at 4:32 am
I can tell you this if the 1%er had to beat and rape his old lady, neither he or her would not be around them the only people that are around are the ones that want to be, if they had to beat and rape them she could not be trusted and she would not be there!!!
February 7th, 2010 at 10:21 am
yeah i dont think trust has anything to do with it. they have been known to beat and rape women just for the fun of it. i guess to prove how macho they are for the other members. the vagos members who offered a girl a ride home but took her to their club and gangraped her, the ol man and his outlaw brothers who nailed his ol lady to a tree and left her there for hours just because she didnt want to give all her money to her ol man, the prospect who had to sew up an ol ladys face because her man beat her. doesnt sound like those women had choices, huh? and you think they enjoyed being treated like that, they wanted to be there?
February 8th, 2010 at 12:55 am
Every time I read up on the comments here that song “Highwayman” by the SUPERGROUP the Highwaymen. Johnny Cash,Willie Nelson,Waylon Jennings and Kris Kristofferson (sp?) Love that song. I have no idea why but it pops in my head.
February 8th, 2010 at 5:22 am
from malappuram(kereala)
February 8th, 2010 at 2:41 pm
I made a collar and leash for my dog out of some of the flesh I sliced from a couple of Hells Angels that were dumb enough to cross the HondaMen MC.
I used the parts from their crappy Harlie Davvisons to make a toaster, but it didn’t work, just like the Harlie motorbikes don’t work.
February 8th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Hells Angels vs. Outlaws: I’ve eaten members of both, and they pretty much taste the same.
HONDAMEN FOREVER FOREVER HONDAMEN
February 9th, 2010 at 8:15 am
to the 1% here. do me a favor, i know you wont but would you tell the women of your club that even though ive never met them, that i care about them, that i lose sleep every night worrying about the way they are treated everyday by the clubs who claim to care about them and who claim they treat them with respect? that i hope they find a way out without getting killed or beaten to within an inch of their life by their ol man or by the club. that im sorry they have to endure constant rapes and forced to prostitute for them. that they get torture just for talking and for having an opinion about things. that the only thing that they can be around their ol man or the club is brainless fuckmeat. that they cant say no to whoever wants them, and if they do they get beat. will you tell them that im sorry they have to be treated that way? just tell them that.
and red i know you said you have a daughter, so im asking you please dont sell her or give her away to your brothers, i mean i know you guys sell women, but dont do that to your daughter. please?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:47 am
HondaMen MC just claimed more territory last night. Dummy Sons of Anarchy tried messing with us and came out on the wrong side. We also scared off a buncha Pagan MCs just last week who were sniffing around our lawn.