Top 10 Evil Human Experiments
Published on March 14, 2008 - 190 Comments
[WARNING] This list contains descriptions and images of human experimentation which may cause offense to some readers.] Human experimentation and research ethics evolved over time. On occasion, the subjects of human experimentation have been prisoners, slaves, or even family members. In some notable cases, doctors have performed experiments on themselves when they have been unwilling to risk the lives of others. This is known as self-experimentation. This is a list of the 10 most evil and unethical experiments carried out on humans.

The Stanford prison experiment was a psychological study of human responses to captivity and its behavioral effects on both authorities and inmates in prison. The experiment was conducted in 1971 by a team of researchers led by psychologist Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University. Undergraduate volunteers played the roles of both guards and prisoners living in a mock prison in the basement of the Stanford psychology building.
Prisoners and guards rapidly adapted to their roles, stepping beyond the boundaries of what had been predicted and leading to dangerous and psychologically damaging situations. One-third of the guards were judged to have exhibited “genuine” sadistic tendencies, while many prisoners were emotionally traumatized and two had to be removed from the experiment early. Finally, Zimbardo, alarmed at the increasingly abusive anti-social behavior from his subjects, terminated the entire experiment early.

The Monster Study was a stuttering experiment on 22 orphan children in Davenport, Iowa, in 1939 conducted by Wendell Johnson at the University of Iowa. Johnson chose one of his graduate students, Mary Tudor, to conduct the experiment and he supervised her research. After placing the children in control and experimental groups, Tudor gave positive speech therapy to half of the children, praising the fluency of their speech, and negative speech therapy to the other half, belittling the children for every speech imperfection and telling them they were stutterers. Many of the normal speaking orphan children who received negative therapy in the experiment suffered negative psychological effects and some retained speech problems during the course of their life. Dubbed “The Monster Study” by some of Johnson’s peers who were horrified that he would experiment on orphan children to prove a theory, the experiment was kept hidden for fear Johnson’s reputation would be tarnished in the wake of human experiments conducted by the Nazis during World War II. The University of Iowa publicly apologized for the Monster Study in 2001.

Project 4.1 was the designation for a medical study conducted by the United States of those residents of the Marshall Islands exposed to radioactive fallout from the March 1, 1954 Castle Bravo nuclear test at Bikini Atoll, which had an unexpectedly large yield. For the first decade after the test, the effects were ambiguous and statistically difficult to correlate to radiation exposure: miscarriages and stillbirths among exposed Rongelap women doubled in the first five years after the accident, but then returned to normal; some developmental difficulties and impaired growth appeared in children, but in no clear-cut pattern. In the decades that followed, though, the effects were undeniable. Children began to suffer disproportionately from thyroid cancer (due to exposure to radioiodines), and almost a third of those exposed developed neoplasms by 1974.
As a Department of Energy Committee writing on the human radiation experiments wrote, “It appears to have been almost immediately apparent to the AEC and the Joint Task Force running the Castle series that research on radiation effects could be done in conjunction with the medical treatment of the exposed populations.” The DOE report also concluded that “The dual purpose of what is now a DOE medical program has led to a view by the Marshallese that they were being used as ‘guinea pigs’ in a ‘radiation experiment.’”

Project MKULTRA, or MK-ULTRA, was the code name for a CIA mind-control research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence, that began in the early 1950s and continued at least through the late 1960s. There is much published evidence that the project involved the surreptitious use of many types of drugs, as well as other methodologies, to manipulate individual mental states and to alter brain function.
Experiments included administering LSD to CIA employees, military personnel, doctors, other government agents, prostitutes, mentally ill patients, and members of the general public in order to study their reactions. LSD and other drugs were usually administered without the subject’s knowledge and informed consent, a violation of the Nuremberg Code that the U.S. agreed to follow after WWII.
Efforts to “recruit” subjects were often illegal, even discounting the fact that drugs were being administered (though actual use of LSD, for example, was legal in the United States until October 6, 1966). In Operation Midnight Climax, the CIA set up several brothels to obtain a selection of men who would be too embarrassed to talk about the events. The men were dosed with LSD, and the brothels were equipped with one-way mirrors and the “sessions” were filmed for later viewing and study.
In 1973, CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MKULTRA files destroyed. Pursuant to this order, most CIA documents regarding the project were destroyed, making a full investigation of MKULTRA virtually impossible.

South Africa’s apartheid army forced white lesbian and gay soldiers to undergo ’sex-change’ operations in the 1970’s and the 1980’s, and submitted many to chemical castration, electric shock, and other unethical medical experiments. Although the exact number is not known, former apartheid army surgeons estimate that as many as 900 forced ’sexual reassignment’ operations may have been performed between 1971 and 1989 at military hospitals, as part of a top-secret program to root out homosexuality from the service.
Army psychiatrists aided by chaplains aggressively ferreted out suspected homosexuals from the armed forces, sending them discretely to military psychiatric units, chiefly ward 22 of 1 Military Hospital at Voortrekkerhoogte, near Pretoria. Those who could not be ‘cured’ with drugs, aversion shock therapy, hormone treatment, and other radical ‘psychiatric’ means were chemically castrated or given sex-change operations.
Although several cases of lesbian soldiers abused have been documented so far—including one botched sex-change operation—most of the victims appear to have been young, 16 to 24-year-old white males drafted into the apartheid army.
Dr. Aubrey Levin (the head of the study) is now Clinical Professor in the Department of Psychiatry (Forensic Division) at the University of Calgary’s Medical School. He is also in private practice, as a member in good standing of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta.

There have been many reports of North Korean human experimentation. These reports show human rights abuses similar to those of Nazi and Japanese human experimentation in World War II. These allegations of human rights abuses are denied by the North Korean government, who claim that all prisoners in North Korea are humanely treated.
One former North Korean woman prisoner tells how 50 healthy women prisoners were selected and given poisoned cabbage leaves, which all the women had to eat despite cries of distress from those who had already eaten. All 50 were dead after 20 minutes of vomiting blood and anal bleeding. Refusing to eat would have meant reprisals against them and their families.
Kwon Hyok, a former prison Head of Security at Camp 22, described laboratories equipped respectively for poison gas, suffocation gas and blood experiments, in which 3 or 4 people, normally a family, are the experimental subjects. After undergoing medical checks, the chambers are sealed and poison is injected through a tube, while “scientists” observe from above through glass. Kwon Hyok claims to have watched one family of 2 parents, a son and a daughter die from suffocating gas, with the parents trying to save the children using mouth-to-mouth resuscitation for as long as they had the strength.

The Poison laboratory of the Soviet secret services, also known as Laboratory 1, Laboratory 12 and “The Chamber”, was a covert poison research and development facility of the Soviet secret police agencies. The Soviets tested a number of deadly poisons on prisoners from the Gulag (”enemies of the people”), including mustard gas, ricin, digitoxin and many others. The goal of the experiments was to find a tasteless, odorless chemical that could not be detected post mortem. Candidate poisons were given to the victims, with a meal or drink, as “medication”.
Finally, a preparation with the desired properties called C-2 was developed. According to witness testimonies, the victim changed physically, became shorter, weakened quickly, became calm and silent and died within fifteen minutes. Mairanovsky brought to the laboratory people of varied physical condition and ages in order to have a more complete picture about the action of each poison.
In addition to human experimentation, Mairanovsky personally executed people with poisons, under the supervision of Pavel Sudoplatov.

The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male was a clinical study, conducted between 1932 and 1972 in Tuskegee, Alabama, in which 399 (plus 201 control group without syphilis) poor — and mostly illiterate — African American sharecroppers were denied treatment for Syphilis.
This study became notorious because it was conducted without due care to its subjects, and led to major changes in how patients are protected in clinical studies. Individuals enrolled in the Tuskegee Syphilis Study did not give informed consent and were not informed of their diagnosis; instead they were told they had “bad blood” and could receive free medical treatment, rides to the clinic, meals and burial insurance in case of death in return for participating. In 1932, when the study started, standard treatments for syphilis were toxic, dangerous, and of questionable effectiveness. Part of the original goal of the study was to determine if patients were better off not being treated with these toxic remedies. For many participants, treatment was intentionally denied. Many patients were lied to and given placebo treatments—in order to observe the fatal progression of the disease.
By the end of the study, only 74 of the test subjects were still alive. Twenty-eight of the men had died directly of syphilis, 100 were dead of related complications, 40 of their wives had been infected, and 19 of their children had been born with congenital syphilis.

Unit 731 was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that undertook lethal human experimentation during the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937–1945) and World War II. It was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes carried out by Japanese personnel.
Some of the numerous atrocities committed by the commander Shiro Ishii and others under his command in Unit 731 include: vivisection of living people (including pregnant women who were impregnated by the doctors), prisoners had limbs amputated and reattached to other parts of their body, some prisoners had parts of their bodies frozen and thawed to study the resulting untreated gangrene. Humans were also used as living test cases for grenades and flame throwers. Prisoners were injected with strains of diseases, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects. To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea via rape, then studied. A complete list of these horrors can be found here.
Having been granted immunity by the American Occupation Authorities at the end of the war, Ishii never spent any time in jail for his crimes and died at the age of 67 of throat cancer.

Nazi human experimentation was medical experimentation on large numbers of people by the German Nazi regime in its concentration camps during World War II. At Auschwitz, under the direction of Dr. Eduard Wirths, selected inmates were subjected to various experiments which were supposedly designed to help German military personnel in combat situations, to aid in the recovery of military personnel that had been injured, and to advance the racial ideology backed by the Third Reich.
Experiments on twin children in concentration camps were created to show the similarities and differences in the genetics and eugenics of twins, as well as to see if the human body can be unnaturally manipulated. The central leader of the experiments was Dr. Josef Mengele, who performed experiments on over 1,500 sets of imprisoned twins, of which fewer than 200 individuals survived the studies. Dr. Mengele organized the testing of genetics in twins. The twins were arranged by age and sex and kept in barracks in between the test, which ranged from the injection of different chemicals into the eyes of the twins to see if it would change their colors to literally sewing the twins together in hopes of creating conjoined twins.
In 1942 the Luftwaffe conducted experiments to learn how to treat hypothermia. One study forced subjects to endure a tank of ice water for up to three hours (see image above). Another study placed prisoners naked in the open for several hours with temperatures below freezing. The experimenters assessed different ways of rewarming survivors.
From about July 1942 to about September 1943, experiments to investigate the effectiveness of sulfonamide, a synthetic antimicrobial agent, were conducted at Ravensbrück. Wounds inflicted on the subjects were infected with bacteria such as Streptococcus, gas gangrene, and tetanus. Circulation of blood was interrupted by tying off blood vessels at both ends of the wound to create a condition similar to that of a battlefield wound. Infection was aggravated by forcing wood shavings and ground glass into the wounds. The infection was treated with sulfonamide and other drugs to determine their effectiveness.
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1. Pascal - March 14th, 2008 at 4:47 am
When I think about Nazi’s experiments and Unit 731’s, and trying to compare and order those two in a list well, I am convinced there shouldn’t be no number two and two firsts…
2. macculate - March 14th, 2008 at 4:54 am
cool…
3. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 4:54 am
Pascal: I agree with you completely - I the end I put the Nazis first simply because of the fact that they murdered more people than the Japanese.
4. Sarah - March 14th, 2008 at 4:56 am
Not only is it terrifying to think that these things actually happened to real people, but that there were enough incidents to fill a “top ten” list…
5. Lizzie - March 14th, 2008 at 5:13 am
Appalling examples of mans inhumanity to man. Enough to make you weep at the horror that the victims must have endured.
6. BHO - March 14th, 2008 at 5:13 am
I would hate to think that some of the information learned from these sick experiments is actually used today. But then again, if the info did help i suppose you could say that at least the poor people didn’t die for nothing….
A scary list J…..
7. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 5:18 am
BHO: as a matter of fact, according to Wikipedia - not only is it used - it is exclusively used in some fields:
8. Ruairi - March 14th, 2008 at 5:19 am
number 10 isnt particularly ‘evil’ in my opinion..we were taught about it in psychology - how evil can it be?!
9. BHO - March 14th, 2008 at 5:25 am
Now thats what i would call an ethical dilemma…Im not sure how i feel about that lol…You have to remeber that ‘the ends dont justify the means’ no matter how much the information has helped man kind as a whole, the nazis are still evil $%%^£$% !!! FACT!
Good list J
10. romerozombie - March 14th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Horrible but interesting.
11. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 5:35 am
Amazing the cruelty human beings are capable of as soon as they adopt a mind-set of superiority. Germans were superior to the Jews, Homosexuals, and Gypsies that populated the camps. Japanese thought they were superior to everyone. The white doctors in the Tuskeegee Experiment thought themselves superior to the black fellas. (Guarantee it wouldn’t have happened with a bunch of white syphilis victims). Prejudice is Evil.
On a side note, it horrifies me that the dirt bag doctor from South Africa is employed and certified in Canada. I do believe I am going to write some letters. Jamie, could you save me some time, provide me with some sources? Thanks
12. Randall - March 14th, 2008 at 5:36 am
Isn’t it time for a happy list? Top Ten Cutest Puppies… something like that?
13. rhea - March 14th, 2008 at 5:38 am
i still cant believe that the human race can do that to ech other…its sickening,,,,,,
14. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 5:42 am
Randall; The last time we had a happy list it spawned flaming and false accusations. Lord, we almost had a war. I feel Emma Peel is responsible. She imprinted on you young, while you were vulnerable.
15. mitchsn - March 14th, 2008 at 5:49 am
#% But but but Barbara Walters said these must be the happiest people in the world!
16. mitchsn - March 14th, 2008 at 5:50 am
#% = #5
17. Randall - March 14th, 2008 at 5:51 am
Mom:
Yes she did indeed. Several of my girlfriends, over the course of my life, ended up resembling her in one way or another. God, the power of the subconscious. Makes you shiver.
But I wouldn’t consider the Brunettes list to be a “happy” list anyway. That’s just a horny list.
I’m working on a nice list about wines though… that would kinda fit the bill.
18. JMurf - March 14th, 2008 at 5:51 am
After reading Unit 731, I now think the most horrifying thing to wake up to is seeing your legs and arms mixed up. That’s freaked me out big time
19. romerozombie - March 14th, 2008 at 5:59 am
Wine is for pretentious people.
20. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 6:08 am
Randall: happy list? Are you kidding?!
21. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 6:09 am
Romerozombie; You idiot! Would you consider me pretentious?
Foul-mouthed, dope smokin’, rockin, and pretentious. I damn near fell off my chair. Now that is the one thing I have never been accused of. I certainly hope you were joking.
22. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 6:10 am
romerozombie: I am not pretentious and I only drink wine (well - sometimes spirits too).
23. romerozombie - March 14th, 2008 at 6:14 am
“This particular wine makes a post-modern faux pas statement”
PRETENTIOS.
You guys areb’t pretentious, just wine-tasting in general.
24. Dawn Bearer - March 14th, 2008 at 6:22 am
Nazi’s do desearve #1, espeacially Josef Mengele!
I think one of the most grotesque things he did was rejoinig twins together!
25. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 6:24 am
romerozombie: oh - I agree with that as being pretentious
Almost as bad as people who sniff corks 
26. warrrreagl - March 14th, 2008 at 6:30 am
Tuskegee is my hometown. I knew some of the victims of that awful study. Very, very sad.
27. Sephiral - March 14th, 2008 at 6:30 am
These are all pretty awful to some degree.
As for using the information gathered from these experiments, there is no ethical dilemma. We can not change what happened an using or not using the information will make no difference to it. However, using the information may help humanity in some way.
I actually find the Japanese experiments in particular interesting so I might do some further reading later. Grotesque as that is.
28. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 6:33 am
“This particular wine makes a post-modern faux pas statement”
Somebody said that? What the hell does faux pas taste like?
Should taste like shit. Faux Pas is a mistake, no?
How about, Red, not too dry, not too sweet, not too vinegary, full-bodied? Thats what I go for. Sometimes I add spicy to the mix just for fun.
29. Cat Skyfire - March 14th, 2008 at 6:35 am
The interesting thing about #10 is that, unlike the other 9, all participants were volunteers. Although they didn’t know what fully would happen (nobody did, and the man who ran the experiment ended up being very surprised at how it turned out, and ended it.), they did, at, least, enter into it by choice.
To me, #10 isn’t evil. It wasn’t intended to be life-scarring, everyone participated of their own free will, and when things did go too far, it was ended, well before it was supposed to. (As opposed to the Tuskagee study, where they knew it’d gotten out, and gone too far, but they still chose to finish the study.)
http://www.prisonexp.org/ is the web site for the Stanford experiment. It is a fascinating look at how prison can set up certain conditions AND how things can spiral out of control.
30. Randall - March 14th, 2008 at 6:37 am
Mom/Jamie:
No, see… this kid, romerozombie, is pissed at me, and as 18 year olds are wont to do, he is immaturely chasing me on every thread I post in, and sticking in a little mocking statement about anything I say. So I mentioned to Mom that I was working on a list about wine–which, by the way, “romero,” Jamie asked me to write some time ago–and so he coughed up his cutesy “wine is for pretentious people.” Yes, romero, very clever. Go play now kid.
31. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 6:42 am
Cat Skyfire; I read the study. Amazing how quickly they were able to accomplish so much damage. They certainly could and should have realized sooner than they did just what was happening. The leader of the study should not have participated.
32. Me - March 14th, 2008 at 6:45 am
i did number 10 in psychology and i believe if i remeber correctly it also ended up in the guards beating and even rapeing some of the prisoners that to me is quite evil i may be wrong or it may be a similar experiment but thats what i was taught
33. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 6:47 am
Randall/Randall/Randall; Don’t you ever know when to shut up?
I, and I imagine, Jamie, are well aware of Romerozombie’s predilection to irritate you. We or at least I was trying to take you out of the loop. Geez, I thought I was the only one with a big-ass mouth.
34. SocialButterfly - March 14th, 2008 at 6:48 am
Mom (#11): I had no idea a dirtbag like that lived here either. It sickens me that he is in the same province as me.
35. DiscHuker - March 14th, 2008 at 7:04 am
just something i have noticed. on several discussions it has been posited that religion is evil and a scientific mindset is the way forward.
why is there no “throw the baby out with the bathwater” reaction to scientific thinking when realities like this are brought to light?
randall: i know that you have posted that religion has led to much good, so i guess this question is only intended for those that believe that religion is only negative.
36. Bob - March 14th, 2008 at 7:13 am
Sure puts all the hype about Abu Ghraib in perspective, doesn’t it?
37. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 7:15 am
Bob; Large evil is no excuse for small evil. There is no excuse, that is the point.
38. Cat Skyfire - March 14th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Mom424 - When I read about it, the leader of the study (speaking from the advantage of hindsight) was surprised, and in some ways horrified, that he HAD become a part of it. That he had, without realizing it, taken on the role of prison warden, to the point that he was upset that the real police would not help with a rumored breakout. It was not his intent to be a part of it, but it did occur.
One thing that he also indicated was he was surprised when people DIDN’T quit. Remember, nobody was an actual prisoner OR guard, and could walk away at any time. Several did just that but most did not.
For me, this one still isn’t an evil. Unfortunate, but not evil. Evil would have taken more control, an enforced lack of free will (such as things done to pows), and a disregard for the harms once they became serious in the desire to ‘complete the study’ (as in Tuskagee).
39. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 7:37 am
Cat - maybe I misread it, it was a while ago. I thought he “agreed” to take on the role when someone else stepped down. If not, I agree; Not evil, ill-advised, improperly supervised, and mostly unfortunate.
40. Jen - March 14th, 2008 at 7:41 am
They used to do testing on orphans back in the late 1700s for things like cholera and yellow fever. Take someone you knew was sick (and doing things like puking and having diarrhea all over himself) and send him into the orphanage, encouraging the children top play in his excrement. Then, once you had a large, captive population with the disease, only treat half of them and leave the rest to die.
41. romerozombie - March 14th, 2008 at 7:45 am
Don’t flatter yourself Randall, I’m not chasing you. I was just making a comment. I’ve got better things to do. Honestly!
42. rational - March 14th, 2008 at 7:47 am
great list, i haven’t head of a few of these like project 4.1, interesting…. nd Bob Abu Ghraib is not human experimentation, its POWs who are being subjected to different proven interrogation techniques because they have info we need. Now I do not agree with the Iraq, war, I hate bush yata yata yata, but if our military (which i strongly support no matter what the executive office decides to do with them) needs info, they can’t just be like “hey man can you please tell us where you guys plan on bombing next? hey we’ll give you a cookie if you tell us!” yea its tough but i mean stress positions and water boarding hardly resemble the horrors that the nazis or japanese inflicted on people during there times. also the stanford prison experiment i dont really beleive belongs on here, it was actually an intriguing experiment that went in a completely oppposite direction that the controlers has expected, and the results were actually pretty amazing and we learned alot about human nature (that a lot of us are truly dicks on the inside haha)
43. srichards - March 14th, 2008 at 7:49 am
i agree with BHO, very scary to think that these things happened and their is a chance that it can still happen or god forbid is in fact happening at this moment
44. Ginny - March 14th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Reading about the body parts moved around in Unit 731 reminded me of the LaLaurie woman.
Good list. Now though I have to get the knot out of my stomach
45. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Ginny: I thought of her too! She was equally as evil as these guys.
46. rearden - March 14th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Notable mention to Milgram? Not evil per se, but not exactly ethical.
At any rate, great list.
(ListVerse: keeping my co-workers entertained, one list at a time).
47. Joss - March 14th, 2008 at 8:25 am
Interesting and sickening list.
48. BishopWhiteT - March 14th, 2008 at 8:26 am
I used to work for a guy named that was in Auschwitz as a teenager. The nazis placed a gun to his head and said if he made any noise he would be shot, then proceded to rip out both of his testicles without anesthetic. He later escaped, although the rest of his family was killed. His story was made into a book, which I can’t remember the name of as it was named after the number that was scrawled onto his arm, 8020something or other. The extent of evil is truly unbelievable.
49. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 9:17 am
BishopWhiteT: I just can’t begin to comprehend the kind of mind that would allow a person to do that.
50. BHO - March 14th, 2008 at 9:46 am
Its probably very naive to hope that stuff like this isnt happening anymore. We can hope tho….
51. nightjet - March 14th, 2008 at 9:48 am
The one common thread that runs through each of these stories, (and many more like them) is that each was conducted with the blessing and direction of government. This is why we need to take as much power as possible away from government and the mob. Even if the people we elect (or that seize power) are the nicest people in the world, ther is still the chance that they or their successors could engage in these atrocities. Even here in the US we are not immune from this kind of horror. Just because we don’t hear about it, doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.
52. Nitta - March 14th, 2008 at 10:02 am
The experiments sound horrible… Especially Unit 731 and the Nazi ones. However, what I find even more troubling is the fact that experiments like those are still being performed on animals, and so many people find that to be okay.
53. AlyshiaH - March 14th, 2008 at 10:13 am
I learned about number 10 in my high school phyc class… very twisted stuff. To the point that my messed up teacher did a mock run of the experiment every day for one class period for a month.. yeah that was creepie, all i have to say is thank god that i was a gaurd, not a prisoner. Couldnt make me one, i was preggo at the time. And we do need a happy list. 10 cutest kitten pictures on photobucket? that would be nice… or puppies.. any cute baby animal… even bunnies would do, sence ester is comeing up. Jah, we need a happy list on here soon!
54. Joss - March 14th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Nitta - You find it more troubling that experiments are being done on animals? Not that I agree animal experimentation (I don’t), but it’s amazing that you find animal experimentation “more troubling” than human experimentation.
55. King of the Horizon - March 14th, 2008 at 10:35 am
its quite ironic the person the person chosen to do experiment 9 was called mary tudor.one of the most evil women in history
56. R. Nixon - March 14th, 2008 at 10:50 am
BishopWhiteT:
My wife did the same exact thing to me when we got married.
57. PT - March 14th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Sorry Nitta but for me you can cut up as many animals as you like if in the end you can save a single human life.
The worst thing about this list is how facinating it is it makes me feel dirty just to be interested in it. The only solace as with all history is that the more we learn from the past the more chance we have of avoiding the same horrible mistakes
58. Kathryn - March 14th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Disturbing, but I am still about equally disturbed by the types of animal testing still going on to this very day. So I agree with Nitta. In this day and age, yes, it is completely messed up stuff like this STILL happens to animals. You think us humans would have learned from human experiments like this that experimenting on any living creature without it’s consent is wrong.
59. Joss - March 14th, 2008 at 11:16 am
R. Nixon - That’s not funny.
60. loseitbonkers - March 14th, 2008 at 11:18 am
i think that anyone involved with anything like this needs to die as soon as possible.
what a stain on the earth.
61. Adia - March 14th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Joss: I think what Nitta meant was that it’s sad that these experiments are STILL going on even though it is with animals. Which is sad.
I’ve always been kind of interested in this stuff. I kind of want to be a criminal psychologist. If we can get into sick people’s minds we can stop them. A few of these things were almost enough to make me throw up. Sometimes people make me sad.
62. sweetpico - March 14th, 2008 at 11:23 am
I don’t agree with ten being evil either. It wasn’t intended to be evil… was it? Anyways, the Nazis suck. They definately deserve number one, cruel bastards! Great list! I honestly became a little sick reading it!
63. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 11:35 am
I am afraid I agree with PT - 1,000 animals deaths is fine by me if it saves one human life.
64. King of the Horizon - March 14th, 2008 at 11:39 am
jfrater:a lot of animal testing today tho is just unnessary as you can test most drugs on artficially grown compounds
65. King of the Horizon - March 14th, 2008 at 11:41 am
sorry that made no sense.i meant there are plenty of artificial alternitives to substitute animal testing because some like the experiments carried out by the people who make mars are just pointless
66. King of the Horizon - March 14th, 2008 at 11:49 am
to be exact they cut open the legs of live rats to check the efect of chocolate on bloodflow.its not on youtube butill sift through peta later to find it
67. Randall - March 14th, 2008 at 11:57 am
King - Most *medical* testing cannot be accomplished via artificial means and “substitutes.” PETA makes this debate about cosmetic companies and the like, and then spreads the falsehood that there are substitutes for drug testing on animals–which is simply not true. There is no adequate, safe substitute or computer simulation that can, as yet, really replace test animals.
68. Michael Llaneza - March 14th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Prof. Zimbardo has a book out, The Lucifer Effect, that describes the experiment in some detail. It also covers Milgram and Abu Ghraib. Fascinating read, he appears to be honestly still upset with himself for getting dragged into the prison mindset along with the subjects. In an unusual development, he’s done the talk show circuit promoting his book twice - I’ve seen him on the Daily Show twice about a year apart.
69. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
King of the Horizon: as a result of the horrific tests above, international law does not permit human experimentation to occur until animal testing has occurred first. If you take away animal testing, you take away many drugs that may be of benefit to man. It doesn’t matter whether Peta claims that there are alternatives - the law does not allow their use in place of animals.
70. Thompson - March 14th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
What I found sad was #5 wheres the parents tried to save the childrens lives,thats shows how much your parents love you :),but imagine how cruel theses people are.Watch,doing horrible stuff to other people.
71. Cedestra - March 14th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
I remember ready about based on Dr. Josef Mengele’s experiments with twins- I think told from the first person of one of those twins. It was fiction, but still delivered a lot of truth.
And I politely disagree with # 63. While you can’t put me in the same boat as PETA, I really can’t see humans having the capacity or right to judge animals as “inferior” and then be able to kill them. And, yes, I wear leather shoes, but I’m a vegetarian, so I’m only partially a hypocrite.
72. Csimmons - March 14th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
I shudder at the nazi experiments and the 731’s.
73. Bob - March 14th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
The horseplay that went on at Abu Ghraib (and that’s really all it was–jackassery and horseplay) doesn’t even begin to approach evil.
74. Riley - March 14th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
As a university student with a minor in psychology, you would be amazed at the amount of unethical studies that have been done. Until the last few decades, most of the psychological knowledge we know was because of these experiments. Its sad to think that it took soooo long for people to realize how wrong it can be to subject people to these experiments.
The war crimes are different. They were done with a purpose of hurting the other people while testing. We all know war is wrong, we all know persecution against others for being different is ignorant, but every society in history has committed it. For example, the Nazi’s purposely intended to hurt their victims, and deliberately disregarded them as humans.
My point is that tests done which were not supposed to be harmful like psych experiments (#10, 9, 8, 7, 4, 3) are in turn very harmful. These doctors thought they were doing the right thing, and they really believed to be helping. Being unintentionally unethical, and evil is terrible.
The war crimes knew what they were doing, and they intended to hurt. It makes me think what we might be doing today that is intended to be helpful, but 50 years from now we will all realize the harm we caused.
I’m not saying that the war crimes are not evil, or terrible, but that its obvious they are, where as the others were not quite to obvious until after the fact, and the harm was done.
I just hope that in 50 years we, as the Westernized world, don’t go, “well hell, I will I knew then what I know now.”
75. Riley - March 14th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Damn, I meant to say:
“I WISH I knew then what I know now”
76. DiscHuker - March 14th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
nobody has interacted with my question at #35
77. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
Bob: so true - they are lucky to have just been waterboarded!
78. SpookyMulder - March 14th, 2008 at 1:29 pm
The Stanford Prison Experiment was not meant to do harm to the volunteers. Once they realized that the volunteers were taking it too far they stopped the experiment. I don’t think it can be considered evil. Good list though. Scary.
79. Wanderer - March 14th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
DiscHuker:
most people like to stay away from the religion thing, but I will try to be as unbiased as possible.
As someone who doesn’t particularly follow any religion, (not that i have problems with people who do), there have been a lot of horofic things done with the use of a religion as their backing. Now a religion can help societies, but there are many times that people get very fanatical (spelling?) about their religions. most of those things were usually done during mass conversians, or attempting to convert others. And the real thing isn’t the religion itself. I remember one time i was at a fair, and my brother was looking at some stand that has some christianity theme to it, which a little pop up on it. I dont remember exactly what it said, accept for the last pop up, where it stated god would only love you if you worshiped him and gave your life to him. My brother asked if this was true, and my mother said “God loves all people and would want you to live your life the way you want to live it”, and the person working the stand exploded at her. I mean that seemed a bit extreme, but was my mother really that wrong? possibly, but it doesn’t seem like its that far out of line.
In my eyes, the bible is kind of like a book of fables. Stories with morals, to help show the errors of certain ways of behaving, so that if people adapted those morals they would be able to live together in a peaceful way.
80. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
jfrater; Bob; You guys are wrong. Once you head down that slippery slope, you become more and more like the bad guys. And the stuff I have read that happened/is happening at Abu Ghraib is not horse-play. Even the mild stuff, the stuff that Steve-O and the rest of the idiots from Jack-Ass would do, is horrifying if you are muslim. I know of a few folks that were detained there that did nothing. They are the wrong color or from the wrong country or for that matter travelled through the wrong country. You cannot act from a position of Moral Superiority if you engage in those behaviors. Which is exactly what The USA is doing. If they are doing this on an American Military Base, what the hell are they doing elsewhere?
DiscHuker; I agree, I find no ethical dilemma in using the info that has already been collected, even if in unethical ways. Maybe some good can come of evil. If that information saves even 1 life, its better than nothing at all coming of their suffering.
Re Animal Testing; sorry but it is a necessity. Not for cosmetics, (Avon and the Bunnies), but for medical testing. As long as the folks are as humane as possible and do their best to minimize suffering, I have no problem. By the way, even scientists have hearts, ya know. They are human, they don’t want to cause unnecessary pain to the monkeys, rats, bunnies, etc.
81. liz156 - March 14th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
SocialButterfly/Mom - I can see the building he works in from home. That freaks me out. I can’t beleive he was able to be certified here!
Terifying list. I agree with nightjet, it is amazing that these were conducted with blessings from the government. Makes you wonder what secret stuff is happening right now.
82. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
jfrater; bob; I forgot to mention something. Those gaurds at Abu Ghraib are treating their inmates as inferior specimens of humanity. Exactly the justification used by many participating in the experiments on this list. The fact that you don’t find this troubling is as troubling as what’s going on. People never learn.
83. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Mom424: Treating them so is not even remotely close to having their legs cut off and sewn to their necks. Surely you see the difference. I believe more troubling is the fact that you consider these equal.
84. billyrules! - March 14th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
In 8th grade i did a study on the experiments that Josef Mengele conducted in Auschwitz, i read some really horrifying accounts that haunt me to this day. Whenever i hear the word “evil” i think of him.
85. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Jamie; I never said they were the same. I said that once you head down that slippery slope you become more like the bad guys. Treating any “group” of people as less than yourself was used to justify the kinds of behaviour on this list. You don’t find it troubling that the young kids (the guards are young) are behaving much like the experiment in #1? Big evil does not excuse small evil. I guarantee you that it is going to get worse.
86. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Mom424: no - because the difference is the young guards are dealing with suspected terrorists - not their fellow students.
87. Wanderer - March 14th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
even if a person is a suspected terrorist or my best friend, do i really have the right to do evil acts to either of them?
88. kiwiboi - March 14th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Animal testing ?
Sheesh…reminds me of the time I bought some skin cream. On the bottle it said “This Product Has Not Been Tested on Animals”.
…so I took it home and tested it on the dog
89. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
jfrater; that is the point isn’t it. “Suspected terrorists” not convicted, not proved. The only thing for sure is that they’re Muslim. The guards aren’t treating them as suspects but as less than human scum. Thats why there are rules of military conduct to prevent these kinds of excesses. Conveniently they only apply on American Soil. Funny how its fine and dandy to break your own laws as long as you’re not at home. So shitty ass behavior is Ok as long as your motives are good? No, either you believe in basic human rights or you don’t. You can’t have it both ways.
90. babygirl2882 - March 14th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
#71- Cedestra
There is a book called Children of the Flames about the twins that were tested on. Very interesting and heart breaking.
I have always been interested in the Holocaust. What was done and how a person could do the things done. There are several books that give a good inside to it.
91. jfrater - March 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
kiwiboi: hahahah classic!
92. kiwiboi - March 14th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Mom - I’m with you. Actually, I find it unbelievable that GW Bush so openly flaunts/circumvents both constitutional and basic human rights, not to mention the condoning of torture.
9/11 was an outrage of such a magnitude that it has screwed up our moral compasses. I’m convinced that some day in the future, many Americans (who are generally very civic-minded) will look back in horror and wonder how they tolerated such an ass-flannel of a president (and his administration).
Show us the WMD’s George !!!
But…back to the original topic - there is no viable excuse for torture.
93. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Kiwiboi; None whatsoever. We had our own mini break with reality during the FLQ crisis. War measures act briefly suspended human rights. No waterboarding or torture but tons of folks jailed without charge, curfews and the like. Nothing causes irrational behavior like panic.
94. tikilounge - March 14th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
What is sad it this sort of stuff happens to animals everyday that is just as horrific and unnecessary and savage. There is no excuse for torture human or animal.
95. Myself - March 14th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Fascinating list indeed.
96. Lulu - March 14th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
It’s so sickening knowing what one human can do to another, knowing what several can do to several thousand is unimaginable.
Although the whole of these crimes are horrendous this part got to me -
[quote] Kwon Hyok claims to have watched one family of 2 parents, a son and a daughter die from suffocating gas, with the parents trying to save the children using mouth-to-mouth resuscitation for as long as they had the strength. [/quote]
As a parent I can only ‘imagine’ what they were going through.
What a sick world we live in, and to think these are only crimes that have been documented, imagine what hasn’t been made public knowledge and unimaginably what still happens without our knowledge in this day and age.
97. sdggrant - March 14th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Crazy shit indeed. I don’t think number 10 should be called “Evil” though. I mean once it was clear that it was getting out of hand, the experiment was stopped. Looks like there were good intentions with that experiment but the researchers underestimated the BRUTAL side of human nature. NUmber 1 and number 2 are just plain sick and evil…although, you would be surprised at how useful that information was after the Allies won WW2. Im not saying that it is justified, but atleast SOME tiny sliver of good came out of all the horror and suffering.
98. baobao - March 14th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Because the experiments are so evil, they have been banned in this generation and may never occur again. Given that fact, if so many experiments were done in the past, then the results must have been documented somewhere… Does anybody know if books have been written from those studies?
Not that I agree with that kind of research, but if it’s already a done-deal, then it would be educative to share the results or publish them. It will allow people to better understand human biology and may be very useful to the medical expertise in finding cures to human diseases.
Last but not least, it would make those that lost their lives (for the experiments and studies), to have served a good cause, rather than die for nothing… So where are the results?
99. Lori - March 14th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
DiscHuker, You made the comment about everyone blaming religion for evil and not science. Well, here’s the deal. Science is a tool, not a philosophy. It does not teach morals and values. It only helps us to find out how the world works. Religion on the other hand, is supposed to teach morals and ethics and yet there is no evidence that religious people are any more moral than non-religious people. I know I’m opening a can of worms here, but I contend that there is no benefit from religion that cannot be had by secular means. Just my two cents. Hope this doesn’t start at comment war. Oh, and I’m having a nice glass of red wine right now. Not because I’m pretentious, but because I like the taste.
100. Lulu - March 14th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
Being banned means nothing at all, it doesn’t mean it won’t happen again, hey we are in the 21st century, does that mean we are immune by atrocities ? I realise you say ” may never happen again”, but did you read that some of these atrocities happened as late as the 80’s ?
Of course it will happen and probably is happening already, when we will find out is another matter.
I also don’t beleive anything is a good cause if the ‘test’ was against someones will.
101. StarDust - March 14th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
It’s extremely sad to see what human beings are willing to do to each other. It’s so wrong
102. Drelo - March 14th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
I think that Lori is right about there being good and bad people that subscribe to religion, and good and bad people that don’t. But there is a benefit to religion for some people. Personally, I benefit not from religion but from acting true to myself and true to others. Honesty and kindness are not religious values, they are human ones.
Obviously, the people that conducted these experiments (except for #10) were not human but monster. Sickening. Good list though. We can’t forget the past. We need to remember what not to do, and how to prevent things like this from happening again.
103. Bad News - March 14th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
…and I’m having an excellent $8 Amador County zinfandel.
DiscHuker, the fact that science can be used for wicked purposes only proves that religion does not hold a monopoly on evil. Although, you know, there are some fine believers out there, I’m sure.
Mom424: You make an excellent case against torture of any sort.
104. JwJwBean - March 14th, 2008 at 9:44 pm
AS soon as I read the name of the list, I thought of the Stanford University Prison Experiment. I also thought about the pschologist that experimented on his own child. I can not think of his name right now. He pretty much ignored his child to see the effects of non contact or something to that effect. 2 alcoholic drinks and all my brains are out the window.
105. MiSaNtHrOpE - March 14th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
#6 is practiced A Clockwork Orange-style in the United States by far-right Christian groups. JFrater: If you want a link:
http://www.splcenter.org/intel.....sp?sid=327
106. Mara - March 14th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Aha. They did something similar to #10 in Veronica Mars. It was kind of neat.
Could someone clarify whether Dr. Levin was in charge of the reassignment surgeries, or if he was in charge of a study on it? Because if it’s the former, I feel ill to be in the same city as someone like that.
107. Mara - March 14th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
Never mind. Google tells me he’s a bastard.
Just cements the fact that I won’t ever be going to the U of C. Thanks, Google!
108. rhharley - March 14th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Wow. #6 really disturbs me too, I live less than 2 hours from Calgary. =\
109. Jono - March 14th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Delphine Lalaurie did some fucked up crap.
She easily would knock #10 off the list, EASY.
110. suzi - March 15th, 2008 at 12:47 am
As soon as I saw the subject, I knew what 1, 2 and 3 would be.
111. Laura - March 15th, 2008 at 3:48 am
Great. You have now alerted me to the fact that Dr. Levin, #6 on the list, is an instructor at my University. Thanks for creeping me out unduly.
That said, I think I’m going to try and investigate this matter further. Especially since he’s teaching in the field of Psychiatry. *shudder*….
112. Mom424 - March 15th, 2008 at 4:34 am
Laura; You are not “unduly” creeped out. You are duly creeped out. I wonder what the student newspaper will think of this?
113. fivestring63 - March 15th, 2008 at 5:16 am
Geezz, I’m really tired that on every single list, that it’s GW’s fault, or religions fault, or his fault or that’s fault. What a pitiful life you all must have to be so critical of everyone’s beliefs or lifestyles and then be offended when the same is done to you.
114. Laura - March 15th, 2008 at 5:37 am
fivestring63, would you prefer we not try to examine the causes for these atrocities and prevent them from ever recurring? Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Should these people and incidents go unpunished or forgotten?
115. Drogo - March 15th, 2008 at 5:39 am
Scientists who do this rationalize, they convince themselves that in the long run, mankind will benefit from the torture of a few. They brainwash themselves into thinking that it’s right to do it. Then when it’s too late they feel remorse.
116. Joni - March 15th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
That’s great to know about Aubrey Levin, considering I’m planning on going into the psychiatry field at the UofC…
117. satori - March 15th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Comment #55 “King of the Horizon”- I thought the exact same thing! There is a certain irony that there are 2 Mary Tudor’s with evil deeds under their belts.
118. satori - March 15th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
JONI-That is frightening. I can’t believe that he is employed in Canada…I’m a Manitoban…I think we need to get a petition together to have him removed from teaching…if that is at all possible. I’m all for second chances, but what kind of sick twisted mind would force castration’s and sex changes…and we’re giving him a position of authority in an important PSYCHOLOGICAL field of study…that sounds about right (???!!!)-why isn’t this man in PRISON let alone teaching???
119. OMG - March 15th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
creeps me out
120. thekingofguff - March 15th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Great list!
There’s a German film called ‘Das Experiment’ that’s based on the Stanford prison experiment, and well worth a watch it is too.
121. goof_ball - March 15th, 2008 at 5:08 pm
1 and 2 are equally horrible but the reason 1 got that spot was probably because it’s more known. The pictures are just straight up CREEPY!!!
122. nellerbear - March 15th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Uh, as an indentical twin, that last one didn’t sound too good. (Though none of them really did.)
123. satori - March 16th, 2008 at 2:07 am
Here is the official website (written by the Psychologist that lead the study)-before commenting on the validity of it being an “evil” experiment, please read through it-watch the clips and THEN decide. www.prisonexp.org/
Psychological torture can be as devistating as physical. And so you know, as is stated on the official site, this is the first study of it’s kind, with 100% willing participants-no one knew the first thing about what the outcome would be. I find it so easy to judge the study/the psychologist without really knowing the full scope-compared to the virtual imprisonment and non-consentual nature of the other experiements on the list, I would consider it to have had DIRE consequences, but I wonder: Is evil dictated by direct careless disregard for human life or simply the outcome of the act itself?
124. fivestring63 - March 16th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Laura “fivestring63, would you prefer we not try to examine the causes for these atrocities and prevent them from ever recurring? Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Should these people and incidents go unpunished or forgotten?”
No Laura , all I was saying is people saying things like Gw, any Democrat, all religions, or Atheists are the evilist people ever.
I’ll throw one in too. That little squirrel looking thing on “Iceage”. If it wasn’t for him pushing that nut in the ground and splitting the continents in half this would be a peacefull world. What an evil squirrel.
125. SlickWilly - March 16th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
I was *this* close to studying under Dr. Zimbardo at the Pacific Graduate School of Psychology. Not an evil guy by any means; he’s actually rather pleasant. And as evil as the experiment ended up being, the results are to this day regularly cited in most social psychology courses.
126. Mel - March 17th, 2008 at 7:26 am
#123 Satori, i absolutely agree with you. it seems that people do not count psychological tests as having the same negative consequences as physical.
what about Milgram’s study at Yale in 1961, where he made people think that they were administering debilitating shocks to people, and in come cases that they actually killed someone? Way to mess with someone.
http://www.reference.com/brows.....experiment
127. Jackie - March 17th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Mel: I’ve heard about that experiment!!!! I was so shocked, I couldn’t imagine going through that, I would have been traumatized.
128. SlickWilly - March 17th, 2008 at 8:43 am
Mel: The craziest thing about the Milgram experiment was that the vast majority of people continued to administer the shocks per the instructions of the experimenter, even after it appeared that the shock recipient had already passed out or died. Interesting to note that compliance went up considerably when the experimenter wore a white lab coat. Just shows how obedient some people are to authority figures. I don’t think it was evil though; no one was actually getting hurt. Unethical? Absolutely. Evil? Eh…I personally don’t think so.
129. Mel - March 17th, 2008 at 9:54 am
SlickWilly - neither Milgram’s nor Zimbardo’s experiments were evil in their inception, unlike the others on this list, but they both produced horrible effects.
Imagine living the rest of you life thinking that you were capable of killing someone? Because, for one monent, you thought you actually had.
You suddenly realise that the person you thought you were and the person you really are are 2 completely different people, and that can be mind-shattering.
130. SlickWilly - March 17th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Mel: Yes, but I think it is important to recognize that quality about ourselves and try to prevent anything serious from stemming from that tendency in the future, rather than to live in willfull ignorance and only find out later that we are capable of such things. The results of both experiments were unethical, but extremely useful in diagnosing the human condition. I would say that - in the example of those two specific experiments - that the positive benefits outweigh the negative.
131. satori - March 18th, 2008 at 12:29 am
the experiments in this list are gut wrenching.
experiment #6 - So basically, if a man is attracted to another man, let’s turn him into a woman…..then there won’t be any homosexuality in our army. Fu@#ing brilliant. I cannot believe that the doctor responsible for the forced sex changes and chemical castrations in South Africa is now a professor in Calgary, Alberta, Canada!!! I wouldn’t mind letting the professor be the lone participant in the recreation of his past experiment.
132. zeppelingod - March 18th, 2008 at 12:37 am
post #131;
sorry, this was my comment…i didn’t realize that I was logged in as ‘Satori’. It is 2:30am where I am so I’m blamming the hour for my failer to notice. I don’t want to have Satori’s name on my post, just in case someone disagrees or wants to respond.
133. bushidoboy - March 18th, 2008 at 9:50 am
long time reader, first time caller.
as a buddhist, i am disinclined to see things in what i view as a primitive dichotomy of good and evil. Evil simply does not exist, to me. I have yet to see an example of human behaviour called ‘evil’ I could not qualify through scientific deduction. What it is, is ignorance backed by power. The people doing those experiments were ignorant enough to believe they had the right to, and empowered enough by their surroundings to believe ‘they’ were actually the good guys. They saw themselves as being the good guys. To me- that’s more insane than ‘evil’.
again, being a buddhist, i find the idea of causing animals undue suffering to be terribly ignorant, but it is also ignorant of me and any else who claim so, to deny that in the proper research fields, that testing that occurred has and may in the future, literally save millions of humans.
i don’t place humans over animals, but the truth is also that animals are tested on to advance the fields of animal health. the real quandary to me is how to achieve valid results without ever resorting to subjecting someone against their will as a test subject.
one idea springs to mind: heavily violent criminal offenders; in exchange for good behaviour and willing, informed consent before trial, would it be immoral to offer them incentives (say, extra yard time, or a private tv/computer) to take part in non lethal tests?
i have several friends who took part in end stage testing in toronto and were paid quite well for it and none suffered anything more than a headache for their troubles. but then we are back to the dilemma… it was end stage because any harm would have been detected in the animals previously tested on.
so rather than bicker about dichotomies- why don’t you/we try to pool our creative intellect into finding ways to subvert this paradigm and at the same time still reap the benefits. any suggestions?
134. Mom424 - March 18th, 2008 at 11:58 am
bushidoboy; I see no way to eliminate animal testing. Even if convicts were somehow included in the pool for human testing, animal testing must come first. Just because something is innocuous when tested on cell cultures and the like does not make it safe in a living/breathing system.
The difficulty with using convicts in the pool of human test subjects is considerable. Is it truly an informed choice when the subject is incarcerated? What is the compensation? More yard time? Better food? Conjugal visits? I can see coercion becoming a perceived problem if not a real one. Also generally speaking, convicts are not often top of the gene pool; how intelligent do you have to be to provide informed consent?
Sorry, animals are the way to go at least for the foreseeable future and likely well beyond that. Progressing from the test tube to living beings must begin somewhere and Dogs, Bunnies, Chimps, and rats are preferable to humans. I would like to agree that all living things have equal value, but its not true. Even humans are not all of equal value, take a look at the evil men list.
135. Denzell - March 18th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Man! What’s wrong with those people?
136. Taylor - March 20th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Just one point I’d like to make: Evil is subjective.
Other than that, great list. I didn’t know about most of that stuff, and few of the details. It’s really interesting to see what some people are capable of.
137. Algodon - March 23rd, 2008 at 4:49 pm
what about the milgram experiment and the wave (i dont know if its the real name i just know the book)
138. Mel - March 24th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Algodon: read comment #126 and subsequent posts
139. YashaMaru - March 25th, 2008 at 4:54 am
ive been to 7 of the concentration camps used by the nazis, among others Auschwitz. it no longer looked like a concentration camp, but a museum, there are barely any reminders of the horrific things that happened.
nr 2 is worse than 1, placing them as the worst simply because its the nazis is against the purpose of this list.
Abu Ghraib is a vialation of bills the U.S. have signed, but yet, they think they can crap on people that LOOKS suspicious. if you dont want to follow the rules of a game, you shouldnt sign up for it.
140. fulcizombie - March 27th, 2008 at 10:47 am
romero-
you give zombies like me a bad name
141. sidvee - April 6th, 2008 at 1:36 am
i’ve got twin sisters ? so i think we should be more like dr mengele ! stop animal testing & test on twins ! it’s better for everyone in the long run trust me
142. EXE - April 6th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Haha sidvee.
My brother and sister are twins and my father is Jewish– our family is orignally from Autria. So when I think of Dr. Mengele, it gives me shivers.
And I disagree with the people who say that #2 is worse than #1. Mengele was as equally bad as the Japanese in Manchuria; many of his base activities were not put up here. He tried to prove that Noma, a disease found among the malnutrition-suffering children in the camps, was caused by genetic inferiority. Here is a quote copied from www.wikipedia.org
“Mengele occupied his time with other numerous acts of the most base cruelty, including the dissection of live infants; the castration of boys and men without the use of an anesthetic; and the administering of high-voltage electric shocks to women inmates under the auspices of testing their endurance. On one occasion Mengele even sterilized a group of Polish nuns with an X-ray machine, leaving the celibate women horribly burned.”
I am horrified at 1-5 equally.
I will say that 2, 4, and 5 may be worse out of the sheer volume of the tortured. Many are still suffering the repercussions of Japan’s attacks; they spread the bubonic plague by dropping fleas from low-flying airplanes and isolating disease-causing-bacteria and putting it in bombs to be dropped on villages. They designed a disease that causes open wounds on the legs that fester and never heal; survivors still have them today and many can barely walk.
It was the Japanese in Manchuria who figured out how long it takes for people to die of starvation by forcibly starving Chinese.
They injected horse piss into people’s kidneys.
They hung people uside-down until they choked.
They put people in centrifuges until they choked.
143. Sunny - April 9th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
1 and 2 are both truly horrible. The descriptions of the japanese vivisecting people without anesthesia are truly horrible. To those who say there is not ethical dilemma in using the data from these studies, keep in mind that one reason the director, Shiro Ishii, got of scott free was that the Americans wanted those records. As a result, the progenitor of one of the most appaling cases of mass torture paid no price for his crimes.
144. e w - April 9th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
@DiscHuker: “why is there no “throw the baby out with the bathwater” reaction to scientific thinking when realities like this are brought to light?”…b/c religious extremists are purposefully working to convert everyone to their path (it’s the explicit mission of Mormons to convert every person on earth), including spending millions of dollars. today’s scientific evildoers? justa coupla freaks in basements. (if only we could relegate the religious equivalents to basements…)
145. concerned scientist - April 9th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
What are you people crying about? We should do more of these experiments. Destructive analysis can be very revealing. Science and morals have nothing to do with each other. Besides, many experiments like these are done on animals now so it’s not like this type of research just vanished after WWII.
146. Fayyaad - April 10th, 2008 at 2:54 am
I’ve linked to this post in my blog
I’ve also linked in my blog post to the Milgram experiment as a related experiment. It seems a lot of these experiments were done for either of a couple of reasons:
a) the belief that the experimenter was superior to the victim
b) scientific query makes it morally right, or at the very least, morally acceptable
c) the victims weren’t seen as human
Make of that what you will.
147. Pyhtun - April 10th, 2008 at 6:33 am
And what about Nagasaki nuclear experiment? Not bloody enough?
148. Richard - April 10th, 2008 at 7:59 am
I definitely think you should include the Milgram experiment. It is generally talked about as one of the experiments leading up to the Stanford Prison experiment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
I was in a replication of it at UCLA in the late ’60s (yes, I gave the subject the highest shock, or so I thought) and later when I found out what was going on it haunted me for years afterward.
149. SlickWilly - April 10th, 2008 at 8:04 am
Richard: I discussed the Milgram experiment with a couple of people in comments 126-130. While unethical, it hardly qualifies as evil.
150. Rich Hudson - April 10th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
The electroshock and sensory-deprivation experiments that Ewen Cameron did for the CIA are particularly deserving of notoriety: Not only did he conduct these without the subjects’ consent (duh), but his work formed the basis for the modern torture techniques used today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron
151. joojoo - April 11th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
concerned scientist: you are a completely SICK bastard and perhaps you should cut all your limbs off for scientific revealing purposes and then come back to this website and tell us how it will benefit the good of us all! IDIOT you are!
152. Kloka - April 13th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
how bad could number 10 be?
…we talked about this in class as well…it made people who, before the experiment best friends, end up doing worse then killing each other due to the roles they were given…
this experiment was completely and entirely psychologically horrifying.
153. cronos - April 14th, 2008 at 12:14 am
I think MK-ULTRA has to be the worst. Fucking with a person’s mind is far more harsh than physical torture. Not that I would know, but I can only imagine. And now they’ll use all that info they obtained to control our minds. This can’t happen.
154. cronos - April 14th, 2008 at 12:18 am
“What are you people crying about? We should do more of these experiments. Destructive analysis can be very revealing. Science and morals have nothing to do with each other. Besides, many experiments like these are done on animals now so it’s not like this type of research just vanished after WWII.”
You need to be put down like a dog with rabies. You’re mentally insane. If you want an experiment to go down, you volunteer.
155. Dokked - April 14th, 2008 at 11:02 am
@ concerned scientist:
Alright, then YOU are the volunteer, OK?
156. REVERNED WRIGHT - April 15th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
THEY FORGOT ONE EXPERIMENT AN THAT WOULD BE AIDS..NOT HIV BUT AIDS ADMINISTERED IN A LAB..TAKE A LOOK AT THIS VIDEO GENIUSES AND COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSION..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7PX8YGI
AND THEN WATCH THIS..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edikv0zbAlU
157. SlickWilly - April 15th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Reverned Wright: No need to shout. And if you’re going to spout conspiracy theories, at least try to spell your own screen name right. It’s hurting your credibility.
158. Cyn - April 15th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
thank you SlickWilly. too bad not enough people know that writing in all caps online is considered shouting and therefore in this context quite rude.

159. SlickWilly - April 15th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Cyn: No problem. I got your back.
160. Riders994 - April 15th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Milgram experiments anyone? Sure he discovered the Six Degrees of Separation, but his “Germans are Weak Minded” experiments are kind of sick.
161. Bi Hour Wreck Chords - April 19th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
It’s interesting to note the degree to which sociopathic behaviors pervade society. It’s been said that a single person is only capable of viewing a finite number of people as individuals, and all others are classified in bulk by the mind based on their occupation or perceived effect on the person in question. This is the only reason I can imagine that a person would be capable of committing such atrocities against others.. They don’t view them as equals, or even individuals. I’m sure there are those that truly lack the ability to empathize with others.. But I’m equally certain that the majority of abusive individuals simply justify their actions with themselves to soothe the conscience.
162. mik - April 20th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
# 11. Mom424 - March 14th, 2008 at 5:35 am
Amazing the cruelty human beings are capable of as soon as they adopt a mind-set of superiority. Germans were superior to the Jews, Homosexuals, and Gypsies that populated the camps. Japanese thought they were superior to everyone. The white doctors in the Tuskeegee Experiment thought themselves superior to the black fellas. (Guarantee it wouldn’t have happened with a bunch of white syphilis victims). Prejudice is Evil.
On a side note, it horrifies me that the dirt bag doctor from South Africa is employed and certified in Canada. I do believe I am going to write some letters. Jamie, could you save me some time, provide me with some sources? Thanks
In a similar way to the way americans perceive the USA as the best country in the world and superior to everyone else, especially the middle east?
163. AWESOME - April 20th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
good times!
164. JM - April 26th, 2008 at 7:01 pm
What no one seems to notice is that 5 of the top 10 were conducted by the USA !!
And of the rest we forgave the sins of 3 the top people running the experiments on condition that they turn their results over to us.
Out of the TOP TEN a full FIVE were conducted by the USA.
THINK ABOUT THAT.
165. dark eden - April 29th, 2008 at 7:11 am
ha most of them are nothing compared to what we still do to animals for instance pumping anti freeze into puppies stomachs or filling kittens lungs whith bleach the list goes on and far more relavent information can be gained from human tussue samples besides tousands of people have been killed by drugs proved safe in animal tests so before anyone starts going off on one about how animal experiments are good for people in the long run let me get this clear ANIMAL EXPERIMENTS KILL PEOPLE
166. Tom Tuttle - April 30th, 2008 at 6:39 am
There is a good chance the Japanese were far more brutal in their torture techniques than the Nazi’s…Anyone read “Rape of Nanking”?
167. dada - April 30th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
inhuman gross ew
168. surm00 - May 2nd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
major fapage alert. fap fap fap.
169. Intelitary Milligence - May 2nd, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Read the Red Cross report on detainees.
Horseplay?
Is this horseplay?:
http://www.disgrunt.com/blog/2.....pe-photos/
Ignorant public.
170. Kumchacta - May 3rd, 2008 at 2:10 am
Speaking of the Stanford prison experiment, i highly recommend the book Zimbardo wrote about it, called “The Lucifer Effect”. It gives insight into how ordinary people can commit the atrocious acts that are highlighted in this list.
171. Realist - May 6th, 2008 at 3:36 am
Hell is right here at earth.
172. prozacula - May 7th, 2008 at 4:06 am
what’s really sad is that this crap is going on in American gulags throughout the world, right now, at this very moment.
it is beyond any shadow of a doubt that the US is experimenting on people everyday with new and old methods of torture, using american psychologists to study the effects.
nothing has changed. it is only hidden better.
173. letface - May 7th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
MK-ULTRA = free LSD?? Hooray!
174. jinx - May 8th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
just goes to show you. the nature of a lot of people is evilly curious, and just downright sadistic.