Top 10 Bizarre Mormon Beliefs

Derrick / 13 Jan, 2012 at 07:16 pm

I’m sorry but the Bible has never been rewritten, you have in fact been brainwashed on this subject. I too was raised Mormon and they told me that it had been tampered with, yet after I left I investigated it’s historicity and credibility and found out that it is the most reliable ancient book in all existence. There are over 25,000 Greek manuscripts which all have the same message (save a few minor differences which don’t change the meaning). And if you collected all the writings from the Early Church Fathers dating prior to the Council of Nicaea (AD 325) you will find all but 11 verses of the Bible word for word what we have today!!! So to say that the early Roman Catholic Church or Christian reformers rewrote the Bible is completely without basis.
Yet! The Book of Mormon has had almost 4,000 changes since it’s 1830 publish date, now which is the more perfect book?

Derrick / 14 Jan, 2012 at 10:58 pm

@Daenon Here is the thing about the internet…you don’t believe everything you read off the internet! And there are several reasons why there are so many word for word translations. One is that the Greek language is a bit difficult to translate to the English language and it is hard to render an English word with the same meaning and weight that was intended with the Greek word. Also our language keeps evolving, for example Charity which is the KJV of the Greek word agape doesn’t exactly have the same meaning in the English language as it did in the 16th Century. The fact of the matter is the Bible has never been rewritten, so are you willing to actually evaluate what you believe on facts. Or will you only take in what people tell you is true, if you’re not after the truth then I am wasting my time talking to you.

Derrick / 15 Jan, 2012 at 07:36 pm

@Daenon People learned truth long before the internet was invented, there are reputable sources out there that have clear evidence for the reliability of the Bible. Wikipedia is not a reputable source by the way. And we can ascertain the validity of the Bible by the evidence left behind in history which there is more evidence that supports the reliability and consistency of the Bible than any other ancient text. When there are manuscripts that date back to the 1st Century that has the same message in the Bible as the one we read today the simple fact is that it was NEVER changed. Mormons have no choice but to attack the Bible to support their claims, and with it being the most attacked book of all time it still stands strong. Teaching doctrines contrary to the what the Bible and having a poor exegesis structure (having the prophet interpret Scripture rather than Scripture interpreting Scripture; the first rule of hermeneutics) makes Mormonism not only “UnChristian” but “Anti-Christian.” If anyone brings a gospel rather than the one Jesus and his Apostles brought “let them be anathema.” Very strong language against people who tamper with God’s Word.

David Murphy / 16 Jan, 2012 at 10:11 pm

Invitation to Exaltation

Everywhere, people are in a hurry. Jet-powered planes speed their precious human cargo across broad continents and vast oceans. Appointments must be kept, tourist attractions beckon, and friends and family await the arrival of a particular flight. Modern freeways with multiple lanes carry millions of automobiles, occupied by more millions of people, in a seemingly endless stream.

Does this pulsating, mobile ribbon of humanity ever come to a halt? Is the helter-skelter pace of life at times punctuated with moments of meditation—even thoughts of timeless truths?

When compared to eternal verities, the questions of daily living are really rather trivial. What shall we have for dinner? Is there a good movie playing tonight? Have you seen the television log? Where shall we go on Saturday? These questions pale into insignificance when times of crisis arise, when loved ones are wounded, when pain enters the house of good health, or when life’s candle dims and darkness threatens. Then truth and trivia are soon separated. The soul of man reaches heavenward, seeking a divine response to life’s greatest questions: Where did we come from? Why are we here? Where do we go after we leave this life? Answers to these questions are not discovered within the covers of academia’s textbooks, by dialing information, in tossing a coin, or through random selection of multiple-choice responses. These questions transcend mortality. They embrace eternity.

Where did we come from? This query is inevitably thought, if not spoken, by every parent or grandparent when a tiny infant utters its first cry. One marvels at the perfectly formed child. The tiny toes, the delicate fingers, the beautiful head, to say nothing of the hidden but marvelous circulatory, digestive, and nervous systems, all testify to the truth of a divine Creator.

The Apostle Paul told the Athenians on Mars’ Hill that we are “the offspring of God.” (Acts 17:29.) Since we know that our physical bodies are the offspring of our mortal parents, we must probe for the meaning of Paul’s statement. The Lord has declared that “the spirit and the body are the soul of man.” (D&C 88:15.) It is the spirit that is the offspring of God. The writer of Hebrews refers to Him as “the Father of spirits.” (Heb. 12:9.) The spirits of all persons are literally His “begotten sons and daughters.” (D&C 76:24.)

For our contemplation of this subject, we note that inspired poets have written moving messages and recorded transcendent thoughts. One writer described a newborn infant as “a sweet new blossom of humanity, fresh fallen from God’s own home, to flower here on earth.” (Gerald Massey.)

William Wordsworth penned this truth:
Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The Soul that rises with us, our life’s Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar:
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home:
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!

(“Ode on Intimations of Immortality.”)

Parents, gazing down at a tiny infant or taking the hand of a growing child, ponder their responsibility to teach, to inspire, and to provide guidance, direction, and example. While parents ponder, children, and particularly teenagers, ask the penetrating question “Why are we here?” Usually, it is spoken silently to the soul and phrased “Why am I here?”

How grateful we should be that a wise Creator fashioned an earth and placed us here, with a veil of forgetfulness on our previous existence, so that we might experience a time of testing, an opportunity to prove ourselves and qualify for all that God has prepared for us to receive.

Clearly, one primary purpose of our existence upon the earth is to obtain bodies of flesh and bones. We are here to gain experience that could come only through separation from our heavenly parents. In a thousand ways, we are privileged to choose for ourselves. Here we learn from the hard taskmaster of experience. We discern between good and evil. We differentiate as to the bitter and the sweet. We learn that decisions determine destiny.

While Paul taught the Philippians that individuals are called upon to “work out [their] own salvation with fear and trembling” (Philip. 2:12), the Master provided a guide we know as the Golden Rule: “All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them.” (Matt. 7:12.)

By obedience to God’s commandments, we can qualify for that “house” spoken of by Jesus when He declared: “In my Father’s house are many mansions. … I go to prepare a place for you … that where I am, there ye may be also.” (John 14:2–3.)

Life moves on. Youth follows childhood, and maturity comes ever so imperceptibly. From experience we learn the need for heavenly assistance as we make our way along the pathway of mortality. We treasure the inspired thought: “God is a Father; man is a brother. Life is a mission and not a career.” (President Stephen L Richards.)

God, our Father, and Jesus Christ, our Lord, have marked the way to perfection. They beckon us to choose to follow eternal verities and to become perfect as they are perfect. (See Matt. 5:48; 3 Ne. 12:48.) The Apostle Paul likened life to a race with a clearly defined goal. To the Saints at Corinth he urged: “Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.” (1 Cor. 9:24.)

In our zeal, let us not overlook this sage counsel: “The race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong.” (Eccl. 9:11.) Actually, the prize belongs to him who endures to the end.

When I reflect on the race of life, I remember another type of race, even from childhood days. When I was about ten, my boyfriends and I would take pocketknives in hand and, from the soft wood of a willow tree, fashion small toy boats. With a triangular-shaped cotton sail in place, each boy would launch his crude craft in the race down the relatively turbulent waters of the Provo River. We would run along the river’s bank and watch the tiny vessels sometimes bobbing violently in the swift current and at other times sailing serenely as the water deepened.

During one such race we noted that one boat led all the rest toward the appointed finish line. Suddenly the current carried it too close to a large whirlpool, and the boat heaved to its side and capsized. Around and around it was carried, unable to make its way back into the main current. At last it came to an uneasy rest at the end of the pool, amid the flotsam and jetsam that surrounded it.

The toy boats of childhood had no keel for stability, no rudder to provide direction, and no source of power. Inevitably their destination was downstream—the path of least resistance.

Unlike toy boats, we have been provided divine attributes to guide our journey. We enter mortality not to float with the moving currents of life, but with the power to think, to reason, and to achieve.

We left our heavenly home and came to earth in the purity and innocence of childhood. Our Heavenly Father did not launch us on our eternal voyage without providing the means whereby we could receive from Him guidance to ensure our safe return. Yes, I speak of prayer. I speak, too, of the whisperings from that still, small voice within each of us; and I do not overlook the holy scriptures, written by mariners who successfully sailed the seas we too must cross.

At some period in our mortal mission, there appears the faltering step, the wan smile, the pain of sickness—even the fading of summer, the approach of autumn, the chill of winter, and the experience we call death.

Every thoughtful person has asked himself the question best phrased by Job of old: “If a man die, shall he live again?” (Job 14:14.) Try as we may to put the question out of our thoughts, it always returns. Death comes to all mankind. It comes to the aged as they walk on faltering feet. Its summons is heard by those who have scarcely reached midway in life’s journey, and often it hushes the laughter of little children.

But what of an existence beyond death? Is death the end of all? Such a question was asked of me by a young husband and father who lay dying. I turned to the Book of Mormon and, from the book of Alma, read to him these words:

“Now, concerning the state of the soul between death and the resurrection—Behold, it has been made known unto me by an angel, that the spirits of all men, as soon as they are departed from this mortal body, yea, the spirits of all men, whether they be good or evil, are taken home to that God who gave them life.

“And then shall it come to pass, that the spirits of those who are righteous are received into a state of happiness, which is called paradise, a state of rest, a state of peace, where they shall rest from all their troubles and from all care, and sorrow.” (Alma 40:11–12.)

My young friend, through moist eyes and with an expression of profound gratitude, whispered a silent but eloquent “Thank you.”

After the body of Jesus had lain in the tomb for three days, the spirit again entered, and the resurrected Redeemer walked forth clothed with an immortal body of flesh and bones. The answer to Job’s question—“If a man die, shall he live again?”—came when Mary and others approached the tomb and saw two men in shining garments who spoke to them: “Why seek ye the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen.” (Luke 24:5–6.)

Testimonies of the resurrected Lord provide comfort and understanding.

First, from the Apostle Paul: “Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures. … He was buried, and … he rose again the third day. … He was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve. … He was seen of above five hundred brethren at once. … He was seen of James; then of all the apostles. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.” (1 Cor. 15:3–8.)

Second, from the combined testimony of twenty-five hundred of his other sheep, as recorded in the Book of Mormon, another testament of Jesus Christ. The resurrected Lord “spake unto them saying:

“Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may thrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may feel the prints of the nails in my hands and in my feet, that ye may know that I am the God of Israel, and the God of the whole earth, and have been slain for the sins of the world. …

“And when they had all gone forth and had witnessed for themselves, they did cry out with one accord, saying:

“Hosanna! Blessed be the name of the Most High God! And they did fall down at the feet of Jesus, and did worship him.” (3 Ne. 11:13–14, 16–17.)

Third, from Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon: “After the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!

“For we saw him, even on the right hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—

“That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God.” (D&C 76:22–24.)

As the result of Christ’s victory over the grave, we shall all be resurrected. This is the redemption of the soul. Paul wrote: “There are … celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

“There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.

“So also is the resurrection of the dead.” (1 Cor. 15:40–42.)

It is the celestial glory that we seek. It is in the presence of God that we desire to dwell. It is a forever family that we want membership in. Such blessings must be earned. (See 2 Ne. 25:23.)

Where did we come from? Why are we here? Where do we go after this life? No longer need these universal questions remain unanswered. Our Heavenly Father rejoices for those who keep His commandments. He is concerned also for the lost child, the tardy teenager, the wayward youth, the delinquent parent. Tenderly the Master speaks to these, and indeed to all: “Come back. Come up. Come in. Come home. Come unto me.” What eternal joy awaits when we accept His divine invitation to exaltation!

I testify that He is a teacher of truth—but He is more than a teacher. He is the exemplar of the perfect life—but He is more than an exemplar. He is the great physician—but He is more than a physician. He is the literal Savior of the world, the Son of God, the Prince of Peace, the Holy One of Israel, even the risen Lord, who declared, “I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world. … I am the light and the life of the world.” (3 Ne. 11:10–11.) “I am the first and the last; I am he who liveth, I am he who was slain; I am your advocate with the Father.” (D&C 110:4.)

As His witness, I testify to you that He lives!

Daenon / 16 Jan, 2012 at 08:45 pm

@Derrick If I said I beleive in Christ then went and killed thousands of people does that mean ill be able to enter heaven too? I mean I have faith in Christ don’t I? If its only faith in Christ that allows us to return to Jesus and our Heavenly Father, then whats stopping us from sinning, and whats wrong with being Mormon and doing extra?
Ok I over exaggerated (because thats what teenagers do) by saying there is no facts. There is some facts that let being christian become logical, but its still not 100% solid evidence of God and Christs existence. Also if the bible didn’t have several things left unexplained then why are there so many different interpretations of its doctrine?
I see it this way, take a single point on a blank peice of paper. Without a second point from that single line you can draw a line in any direction but with two points there is only one line that can be made. If you look at lines as being interpretations of things, the first point as being the bible and the second being another set of scriptures. Course thats only if the Book of Mormon is true.

Daenon / 19 Jan, 2012 at 01:52 pm

@Derrick The bible has solid doctrine in it, there are some missing pieces though, you cant deny it. Also whats wrong with being Mormon. We just go further in what we believe than other Christian religions. We believe in the same Christ as you do… Why am I asked to repent from other religions adults when there is a good chance I live a more morally chaste life then them?

Daenon / 27 Jan, 2012 at 02:08 pm

@ Derrick Religion is very oppinionated apparently. If God really loved us would he send us here just so that only a small portion would really return to him? If I was a loving father I would only do something like that if it would make my children better. Where is the proof that my religion is false? Stop saying Joseph Smith is a liar and a wackjob unless if you can give me solid evidence. Otherwise I’m not going to listen to you. You tell me a lot of things that are “Fact,” but fail to give me evidence. I know I’m contradicting myself here, I’ve read two different versions of the Bible and both of them left holes places that didn’t quite make sense.
A lot of what I say I realize, is also very opinionated. So I just want to let you know most of what I have said is based on my opinion and not what is “Fact” because I don’t want to bother trying to defend something to a closed mind. Its like trying to get a Fandroid and a mindless apple follower to come to a consensus about which software is better.

Daenon / 28 Jan, 2012 at 08:22 am

@ Derrick Let me clarify more about the Bible I don’t question its legitimacy in what it talks about. I believe it to be the true word of god however its interpreted. I do think that the Bible doesn’t answer some questions I’ve had in life that the Book of Mormon fills in perfectly. Sorry if you feel like I was questioning the legitimacy of the Bible. If that were the case I wouldn’t be studying from it right now at 6 in the morning every day of the week.
Also if God only accounts people that follow Christ as his children then what about the poor souls in third world countries that don’t even get to hear about God? What happens to them? Me and you believe in the same God we just have different opinions on how God works. As for the claims on my prophets send them at me I’m all ears and ill receive them with an open opinion.
Lastly this whole debate makes me laugh cause from the many historical documentaries of Christ’s life (many of which ive seen were made from Churches other than my own,) that all the arguments used against my church are only slightly varying from the persecutions that were made against Christ. I have seen modern revelation through the Book of Mormon, your claims about it being lies without evidence is complete air compared to the revelation and things that are coming to pass that the Book of Mormon foretold. By all means prove me wrong.