Top 10 Most Spoken Languages In The World
- Published June 26, 2008 - 492 Comments
Language is perhaps the most important function of the human body – it allows us to get sustenance as a child, it allows us to get virtually anything we want as an adult, and it allows us many hours of entertainment through literature, radio, music, and films. This list (in order of least to most spoken) summarizes the most important languages in use today.
Number of speakers: 129 million
Often called the most romantic language in the world, French is spoken in tons of countries, including Belgium, Canada, Rwanda, Cameroon, and Haiti. Oh, and France too. We’re actually very lucky that French is so popular, because without it, we might have been stuck with Dutch Toast, Dutch Fries, and Dutch kissing (ew!).
To say “hello” in French, say “Bonjour” (bone-JOOR).
Number of speakers: 159 million
Malay-Indonesian is spoken – surprise – in Malaysia and Indonesia. Actually, we kinda fudged the numbers on this one because there are many dialects of Malay, the most popular of which is Indonesian. But they’re all pretty much based on the same root language, which makes it the ninth most-spoken in the world.
Indonesia is a fascinating place; a nation made up of over 13,000 islands it is the sixth most populated country in the world. Malaysia borders on two of the larger parts of Indonesia (including the island of Borneo), and is mostly known for its capital city of Kuala Lumpur.
To say “hello” in Indonesian, say “Selamat pagi” (se-LA-maht PA-gee).
Number of speakers: 191 million
Think of Portuguese as the little language that could. In the 12th Century, Portugal won its independence from Spain and expanded all over the world with the help of its famous explorers like Vasco da Gama and Prince Henry the Navigator. (Good thing Henry became a navigator . . . could you imagine if a guy named “Prince Henry the Navigator” became a florist?) Because Portugal got in so early on the exploring game, the language established itself all over the world, especially in Brazil (where it’s the national language), Macau, Angola, Venezuela, and Mozambique.
To say “hello” in Portuguese, say “Bom dia” (bohn DEE-ah).
Number of speakers: 211 million
In Bangladesh, a country of 120+ million people, just about everybody speaks Bengali. And because Bangladesh is virtually surrounded by India (where the population is growing so fast, just breathing the air can get you pregnant), the number of Bengali speakers in the world is much higher than most people would expect.
To say “hello” in Bengali, say “Ei Je” (EYE-jay).
Number of speakers: 246 million
Arabic, one of the world’s oldest languages, is spoken in the Middle East, with speakers found in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt. Furthermore, because Arabic is the language of the Koran, millions of Moslems in other countries speak Arabic as well. So many people have a working knowledge of Arabic, in fact, that in 1974 it was made the sixth official language of the United Nations.
To say “hello” in Arabic, say “Al salaam a’alaykum” (Ahl sah-LAHM ah ah-LAY-koom).
Number of speakers: 277 million
Mikhail Gorbachev, Boris Yeltsin, and Yakov Smirnoff are among the millions of Russian speakers out there. Sure, we used to think of them as our Commie enemies. Now we think of them as our Commie friends. One of the six languages in the UN, Russian is spoken not only in the Mother Country, but also in Belarus, Kazakhstan, and the U.S. (to name just a few places).
To say “hello” in Russian, say “Zdravstvuite” (ZDRAST-vet-yah).
Number of speakers: 392 million
Aside from all of those kids who take it in high school, Spanish is spoken in just about every South American and Central American country, not to mention Spain, Cuba, and the U.S. There is a particular interest in Spanish in the U.S., as many English words are borrowed from the language, including: tornado, bonanza, patio, quesadilla, enchilada, and taco grande supreme.
To say “hello” in Spanish, say “Hola” (OH-la).
Number of speakers: 497 million
Hindustani is the primary language of India’s crowded population, and it encompasses a huge number of dialects (of which the most commonly spoken is Hindi). While many predict that the population of India will soon surpass that of China, the prominence of English in India prevents Hindustani from surpassing the most popular language in the world. If you’re interested in learning a little Hindi, there’s a very easy way: rent an Indian movie. The film industry in India is the most prolific in the world, making thousands of action/romance/musicals every year.
To say “hello” in Hindustani, say “Namaste” (Nah-MAH-stay).
Number of speakers: 508 million
While English doesn’t have the most speakers, it is the official language of more countries than any other language. Its speakers hail from all around the world, including New Zealand, the U.S., Australia, England, Zimbabwe, the Caribbean, Hong Kong, South Africa, and Canada. We’d tell you more about English, but you probably feel pretty comfortable with the language already. Let’s just move on to the most popular language in the world.
To say “hello” in English, say “What’s up, freak?” (watz-UP-freek).
Number of speakers: 1 billion+
Surprise, surprise, the most widely spoken language on the planet is based in the most populated country on the planet. Beating second-place English by a 2 to 1 ratio, but don’t let that lull you into thinking that Mandarin is easy to learn. Speaking Mandarin can be really tough, because each word can be pronounced in four ways (or “tones”), and a beginner will invariably have trouble distinguishing one tone from another. But if over a billion people could do it, so could you. Try saying hello!
To say “hello” in Mandarin, say “Ni hao” (Nee HaOW). (”Hao” is pronounced as one syllable, but the tone requires that you let your voice drop midway, and then raise it again at the end.)
Contributor: flamiejamie















June 26th, 2008 at 4:30 am
this is such an interesting list, thank you for posting. now i know my 3 years of mandarin learning will not go to waste!
June 26th, 2008 at 4:31 am
Silly: I am envious – I would love to know Mandarin!
June 26th, 2008 at 4:34 am
suprised that spanish didn’t beat english
June 26th, 2008 at 4:35 am
Really good list here, keep it up.
June 26th, 2008 at 4:35 am
Navik: that is because English is the most beautiful language in the world
June 26th, 2008 at 4:38 am
Is it sad that I’ve never heard of Bengali? >_>;
Great list, sort of thought that Portugese would have been higher up on the list, though. o.O;
June 26th, 2008 at 4:39 am
No surprises on this list.
jfrater: why do you say English is the most beautiful? Surely you can’t mean the most beautiful to listen to?
June 26th, 2008 at 4:39 am
News of the day: Portuguese > French.
Great List, flamiejamie!
June 26th, 2008 at 4:40 am
kool list
June 26th, 2008 at 4:40 am
Would the ranking for English move above Mandarin if we counted non-native speakers with fluency or at least competency in English as a second language? India alone would boost the numbers.
June 26th, 2008 at 4:43 am
Tempyra: of course I do! We have two choices for almost all words (romance or germanic) and some of the most beautiful poetry in human history. I would say we are second to Latin for beauty in poetry – we only come second because Latin noun cases make it easy to make beautiful rhymes. How can you not say this is stunning:
I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o’er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host of golden daffodils;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.
By Wordsworth – stunning.
June 26th, 2008 at 4:44 am
Iain: true indeed – but this is based on native speakers only I think (though flamiejamie may want to correct me if I am wrong).
June 26th, 2008 at 4:45 am
Thought French was a dead language.
Great list, really liked it!
June 26th, 2008 at 4:46 am
I agree with Temprya, I love to listen to Hindi
June 26th, 2008 at 4:52 am
Hmmm. Yes, I agree that English is beautiful. Especially Wordsworth
. I just think that other languages can sound more pleasing sometimes. English doesn’t seem to flow as well as Romantic languages sometimes. Mandarin and Cantonese are very pretty to listen to as well – I don’t understand either, I just like listening to them
June 26th, 2008 at 4:57 am
funny thing: french fries ARE actually belgian (dutch) fries, and, whats wrong with dutch kissing?
June 26th, 2008 at 4:59 am
Oh dear… I was listening (it was on TV) to this song:
while thinking about Wordsworth and now my stupid brain has transported the words of the poem jfrater quoted above into the song and IT’S STUCK IN MY HEAD. That’s just wrong isn’t it?!
June 26th, 2008 at 5:14 am
“…millions of Moslems in other countries speak Arabic as well.”
Wouldnt it be Muslims?
June 26th, 2008 at 5:15 am
Great List! I am ashamed to admit that I didn’t know that folks from Bangladesh spoke Bengali. How I missed it, I have no idea. I thought they spoke Hindi, the same as India.
Tempyra; I agree, spoken English doesn’t have the nice cadence that some of the other spoken languages have. Ours is quite abrupt.
Oh, and other than some French and a wee bit of german and Spanish (from watching Sesame Street with my kids, I swear), I don’t understand any of it either.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:16 am
English is the best language (most beautiful is arguable, but it’s near the top in any case) AND the most versatile. The reason it’s the best? It has the largest vocabulary of any language on earth, and is highly adaptable and has been eminently successful. Although its spelling and grammar are sometimes complicated, its word forms and endings were simplified hundreds of years ago, giving it a vitality and extreme usefulness that no other language possesses.
AND, if we did add non-native speakers with fluency in English, English would beat out Mandarin by a knockout.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:22 am
I have been told (by native and non-native English speakers) that English is really quite hard to learn. Not the actual speaking of it, more the structure and rules. Is that just opinion or has it proven to be the most complicated to learn? Like, has someone counted its inconsistencies in comparison to other languages?
June 26th, 2008 at 5:29 am
Tempyra:
I have many friends who are non-native English speakers, and they’ve all said in one form or another that it was at times difficult, but HOW difficult varies from person to person. Nevertheless, they all do fantastically well with it.
The primary difference is that English does not use gender forms for words, and does not alter its word endings. But some people have told me this made it *easier* for them to learn–once they got used to it. So it’s a toss-up.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:34 am
In Portuguese hello is Olá (oh-la) kinda like spanish, but written diferently.
“Bom dia” means good morning.
Great list! For someone who is studying languages this is a very interisting and informative list
June 26th, 2008 at 5:35 am
Sure I read somewhere that Hungarian is the most difficult language to learn.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:37 am
You can always try Australian kissing – that’s kissing “down under”! (Hmm, right!)
If you ever want to hate English, teach in it Korea for 2 years. Every pronunciation, every grammar, every shade of meaning, every idiom, every variety between versions of English etc etc etc will haunt you in every lesson. Easily not the simplest. Easily not the most beautiful. Probably the most versatile, as Randall pointed out. (Hey, we agree on something!)
Two of the difficulties in stating numbers are deciding what counts as a “speaker” (how capable?) and then counting. In countries as populous as China and India, they probably don’t know how many people there are, let alone what languages they speak.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:38 am
Randall: I forgot about that – English not using gender forms. I’m just wondering if anyone has try quantifying/rating the difficulty of each language… Might go try looking it up
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June 26th, 2008 at 5:40 am
Hi Jamie, Im from Indonesia. To say “Hello” in Indonesia is simply “Halo” too. “Selamat pagi” means “Good morning”. They both are greetings but different meaning.. I also learn Mandarin, it is indeed difficult but since I have the root already as Im chinese speaking Hokkienish (another Chinese dialect) it becomes a lot easier.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:44 am
You think four tones in Mandarin is hard? Wait until you hear Cantonese, SIX tones. Lol, but I speak Cantonese more fluently than Mandarin. I’m from Hong Kong.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:47 am
Jamie – I’d agree the list is obviously based on native speakers – but it does make you think about how many Dutch/Scandinavians/Indians etc. are effectively bi-lingual.
Whether English is the most beautiful language is kind of subjective, but what is definite is that it is the dominant cultural language. If you learn English you have better access to a mainstream global culture – the biggest movies, the most popular music/artists, more countries to visit where you can be understood.
I tend to think that this explains why English speakers seem to do less keen on learning foreign languages. There’s a comparative lack of incentive.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:47 am
I thought Cantonese had 9 pitch levels? Is that different to tones?
June 26th, 2008 at 5:49 am
‘be less keen’ – I’m bi-lingual too Scottish and Gibberish
June 26th, 2008 at 5:52 am
The US State Department lists Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, Japanese and Arabic as the hardest languages for English speakers to learn.
Hungarian is “a language isolate”, which means that it bears no relationship to the languages around it (compared to, say, Spanish and Portuguese, German and Danish etc). Generally, the more two languages have in common, the easier it will be to learn. I’m struggling badly with Korean. I can barely pick out any words from a tv broadcast. The other day I caught a bit of a German movie (subtitled in Korean, so I had no idea what it was about) and understood more words of that (and I have never studied German, though I have sung it) than I ever have Korean.
I was always sort-of interested in languages, though I’ve never learned one. Since I’ve been in Korea I’ve been doing a lot of reading about second language learning. Being married to a Korean woman, I’m aware every day just how fraught inter-language communication can be.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:52 am
flamiejamie – I don’t think Boris Yeltsin is doing much talking these days.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:58 am
Btw, I only speak English. Although I can recognise bits of German, Italian (mostly music-related words), and Spanish. I’m learning to speak Australian too
June 26th, 2008 at 6:01 am
Australians have 7,000 different words for ‘beer’
June 26th, 2008 at 6:03 am
Ray Bees: most of them start with ‘p’ and are pronounced with a rising inflection, right?
June 26th, 2008 at 6:03 am
“What’s up, freak?”
LAWLZ.
To say “hi” in our language: say “Kamusta, pangit?”
June 26th, 2008 at 6:12 am
I thought there were 130 million + Japanese people, is the list wrong? :O
June 26th, 2008 at 6:21 am
in venezuela they speak spanish.. not portuguese! and in the other rest of the countries mentioned, their national language is also portuguese, not only in brazil.
btw, i’m portuguese
June 26th, 2008 at 6:26 am
Very interesting list.
Except that ‘bonjour’ in French is not bone-JOOR. Pretty much the same ‘on’ sound as in mONster. So… bON-joor… :p
June 26th, 2008 at 6:27 am
Atually, ‘ei je’ means ‘hey’ in bengali, not hello, but since we dont have a real word for ‘hello’, except the Arabic ‘al salaam a’alaykum’, I suppose it’s okay.
Also, I’m surprised Hindustani is only 3rd. I’ve never come across the word ‘hindustani’ used as a language. If you mean all south asian languages like hindi, tamil, telegu, urdu etc., then the number should be much higher. However, if you mean just the basic hindi, then ‘hindustani’ is a bit misleading. I say it should be 2nd(not sure, just speculating) because India’s population is bordering on a billion, and I was surprised only 500 million people speak ‘hindustani’.
June 26th, 2008 at 6:33 am
i’m pretty sure they don’t speak Portuguese in Venezuela…
June 26th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Your aabic needs a touch up. Marhaba is “hello”, but the most common greeting is Al salaam a’alaykum (peace be upon you).
June 26th, 2008 at 6:40 am
I was just wondering about Japanese myself. The wikipedia list of native speakers (quoting Ethnologue) is
Mandarin 873 m
Hindi-Urdu 425 m
English 350 m
Spanish 320 m
Arabic 206 m
Portuguese 177.5 m
Bengali 171 m
Russian 170 m
Japanese 122 m
German 100 m
so it includes Japanese and German at the expense of Malay/Indonesian and French.
It also gives the total number of English speakers as 1.5 bn, more than Mandarin.
June 26th, 2008 at 6:41 am
I’m from Malaysia and it’s a surprise to see that Malay is at the ninth spot.
But anyway, ‘Selamat pagi’ actually means good morning. There isn’t really a term to say hello unless you’re a Muslim who is greeting another Muslim (Assalamualaikum). Or perhaps Selamat Sejahtera which is a pretty formal way to say good day.
June 26th, 2008 at 6:58 am
NN – in our dialect that would translate “Kumusta na man ka oi, batig nawng?”
June 26th, 2008 at 6:58 am
Great list. Well written, amusing and interesting. Nice one flamiejamie.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Astraya I thought it was interesting that you mentioned teaching in Korea for two years. My step brother is on a flight this very moment to go to there.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:08 am
and teach
June 26th, 2008 at 7:11 am
Hello!
In Venezuela, they speak Spanish, not Portuguese.
And ‘Bom Dia’ is actually ‘Good Morning’. Hello is more something like ‘Olá’ (Olah)
Besides, in French, Bon Jour also means Good Morning. But I dont know how to say ‘Hello’ in French, so…
June 26th, 2008 at 7:13 am
re: #25 astraya,
You have made my day: “Australian kissing”
June 26th, 2008 at 7:13 am
20- Randall: I don’t agree necessarily. English has a large vocabulary, yes, but A LOT of the words in English mean the exact same thing.
For example, I’m studying English into French translation. It often happens that in a list of adjectives in English, one French word will fit all of those together (important + significant, for example). Does that really make it better, having more words? I’d say a more concise language would be better/mroe efficient. That’s just me, though.
English is also highly popular because it’s the official language of the most powerful country right now. If that were to change, the popularity of English would also most likely change.
English has almost no grammar rules D: (compared to French, anyway!). When composing, there is almost nothing to remember rule-wise in English (which can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it)…
June 26th, 2008 at 7:15 am
50- Ana:
No, “bonjour” doesn’t mean “good morning”. Directly translated, it means “good day”.
In Acadia, we say “allo” for “hello”.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:16 am
umm…mandarin is kind of unfair as a No. 1 position, because it’s only spoken in one country, unlike some of the others in the list which are far more widespread. in the caribbean alone (where im from) we have english, spanish, french and dutch spoken here. mandarin may be the ‘most spoken’ by your definition, but i believe it to be a very one-dimensional definition.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Great list, FlamieJamie. As far as lists go, this really could have been a boring one. Fortunately, your humor kept me interested and giggling the whole way through.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:20 am
40- Rod: That’s not really the right pronunciation, either, though it IS closer to it… In French you don’t just have the “a, e, i, o, u” sounds, you have a TON more added to that, including “on, en, in” etc. which English does not have, so it’s kind of hard to sound out for anyone to pronounce. But there technically is no “n” sound, or “o” for that matter, because it’s its own sound altogether. If any of that makes sense. o.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Val – “English has almost no grammar rules D: (compared to French, anyway!). When composing, there is almost nothing to remember rule-wise in English (which can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it)…”
Oh my, so what was I learning in Composition 101 at college? And if there are no rules, how were people failing the class? My brain hurts.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:23 am
I’m malay, and while “selamat pagi” is fine, and so are the other greetings, also acceptable is “Apa Khabar?” (how are you?)
of course, the proper response is always a polite, “Khabar Baik”, but you’re welcome to ask me for naughtier retorts.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:24 am
Nomoskar would be the correct greeting in Bengali (a bit formal too). Ei jay would translate to you there…!!
June 26th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Hey JF,
The term ‘Hindustani’ is wrong. It means an ‘Indian’. The name of the language is ‘Hindi’. It’s similar to the case of where people assume that ‘Chinese’ is a language.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:30 am
Hey JF,
The term ‘Hindustani’ is wrong. It means an ‘Indian’. The name of the language is ‘Hindi’. It’s similar to the case of where people assume that ‘Chinese’ is a language. I think you need to change that.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:36 am
Great list. Good humor. Good information. An A+!
Does “Al salaam a’alaykum” translate literally as “the peace of God upon you” or something like that?
June 26th, 2008 at 7:41 am
In Portuguese, “hello” is not “Bom dia”. That is “Good morning”. Hello is “olá”, pronounced “ohllah”
June 26th, 2008 at 7:42 am
Interesting: for some reason I always thought spanish was much higher.
And I agree with Rod: “bone-JOOR” is not the correct pronounciations it is the way an american would incorectly pronounce it.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:45 am
I think italian is pretty nice to listen to.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:48 am
I agree, English is the most beautiful language in the world
June 26th, 2008 at 7:52 am
I don’t know whats the best sounding language in the world but I happen to be lucky enough to know 2 on this list ( english & spanish) and understand a lil’ bit of another 2 ( portuguese & french). I use them both to my advantage, I speak English to the latin girls who don’t really speak it much but like to hear me say things to them in English, and whisper a lil’ spanish in the ears of these pretty lil’ american girls!!
….just for the record i’m only into women, I’m BI-LINGUAL, there’s a difference!! ..lol lol…..GOOD LIST!!
June 26th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Wow, I thought Hindi and Arabic beat out English; I didn’t realize English was all the way up at #2!
Ray Bees (#35): and Jeff has over 4,000 words for breasts!
June 26th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Val:
20- Randall: I don’t agree necessarily. English has a large vocabulary, yes, but A LOT of the words in English mean the exact same thing.
No, not so. This is a mistake that many non-English speakers make. Many of our so-called synonymous words actually have small nuances of meaning between them. It may not seem apparent at a quick, first glance, but a little thinking indicates how oftentimes there *are* slight differences. And you can see where that would be useful.
Take, for instance, three English words that seem totally synonymous: Kingly, Royal, and Regal.
Right off the bat they seem to mean exactly the same thing. But think about it. They don’t really. Or, rather, they each possess nuances of meaning that can make them seem similar or quite different depending on the context of their use. For instance, there are times when you would very comfortably and obviously use “regal,” but substituting “royal” would not work. We say someone is “regal,” in other words, when they are not “royal.”
See what I mean?
There are countless examples like this.
Moreoever, even when words are synonymous, it simply gives the language more muscle, more variety. This can be useful in many ways.
“For example, I’m studying English into French translation. It often happens that in a list of adjectives in English, one French word will fit all of those together (important + significant, for example).”
Again–if you think about it–”important” and “significant” have subtle nuances of meaning which place them slightly apart.
This kind of thing also gives English a versatility which other languages don’t have.
“Does that really make it better, having more words?”
Of course. I’ve pointed out to you why. It allows for far more subtle nuances of meaning, and therefore more precision in communicating a thought, and/or more versatility and power.
“I’d say a more concise language would be better/mroe efficient.”
Well, sorry, but clearly not. And if that were the case, then you’d have to answer WHY it is English is the world’s most popular language. And why a more “concise” language has not supplanted it for certain uses.
No, Val, sorry–but you’re thinking on this one is 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
“English is also highly popular because it’s the official language of the most powerful country right now. If that were to change, the popularity of English would also most likely change.”
Nope, also wrong. That’s a very common misconception. English, in fact, was rising in popularity LONG before the US became the economic power it is today. And this was not due, either, to the then-ascendancy of the British Empire. Though of course things like that do help a language to spread–but they do not really do much to popularize it, if it is not useful to begin with.
No, the reason English is popular today is because of its qualities AS a language, and this would not change if America vanished tomorrow. English is a highly adaptive, hugely versatile language. It offers subtleties of meaning that other languages do not possess. It freely adapts and borrows from languages and in turn they adapt and borrow from it and then add their adaptations back in. Its immense vocabulary offers a menu of terms and words that are far beyond any other language. And it long ago eschewed the complexity of gender forms and changed word endings.
THAT is why English is popular–not because of the might of the United States.
“English has almost no grammar rules D: (compared to French, anyway!). When composing, there is almost nothing to remember rule-wise in English (which can be good or bad, depending on how you look at it)…”
Well, think about it Val. That’s GOOD, in almost every instance. Again, it allows for versatility and deep subtlety of meaning. A sentence, rephrased, can mean many different things.
Sorry, but the fact is that English trumps all other languages for these reasons, and its popularity will continue regardless.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:00 am
57- Cheesygirl: That’s why I said almost, haha. Well to me anyway, it didn’t seem like much since there are so many in French… I took English comp in university too (Canadian equivalent to american college), and people did fail the class, etc. I apologize if I sounded like an a-hole X_x.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:01 am
Oh cool, I can speak three of these. English,Bengali and French.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:04 am
This is such a brilliant site. I came through to it by accident, and have been hooked ever since. Keep up the great work JFRATER!
And flamiejamie, this is a superb list.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Nice list.
But seriously, you talk about English borrowing from Spanish as if your only source were a Mexican restaurant. I get the last one being a joke, but I don’t think anyone is cultured enough about the Spanish language to get the irony.
So just to be safe, look at this Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_words_of_Spanish_origin
There are hundreds of loan words in English from Spanish that are much more relevant and common that I’m sure you didn’t know are borrowed from Spanish.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Dang, I didn’t mean anyone, I meant “not everyone”. Sorry.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Which means that I can speak with roughly 848 million people in Earth according to this list. How wonderful.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Which means that I can speak with roughly 848 million people on Earth according to this list. How wonderful.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:14 am
oh,sorry for that double post. That was an error.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:14 am
This list made me giggle. Great!
I am going to learn a new language too, couldn’t decide between Japanese or Russian (I thought Japanese was going to make it here though) finally settled for Portuguese.
I’m lame, I speak Spanish!
June 26th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Where’s Japanese? gotta be more than French at least.
I have found that a strong basis in latin makes it easy to “translate” words from many other languages, just by recognizing the root word and/or a prefix/suffix. I’ve found this applies to Spanish, French, Italian, and German.
I also know a little Hawaiian.
How about the top 10 declining languages? Hawaiian and Native American Indian (ie. Apache, Eskimo, etc.) would definitely qualify.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:18 am
Also, “Namaste” is not simply “hello”. It’s more of a greeting with spiritual and sometimes religious connotations. In fact it’s common to use the expression while bowing and putting your hands together out of politeness and reverence.
I urge you to look at this article which explains the complexities of the word in India and elsewhere:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namaste
Namaste, and good luck.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:21 am
copperdragon:
French is a colonial language that has speakers in both Eastern and Western hemispheres. Japanese is a language largely in isolation, because Japan itself remained in isolation until the 1850s (when the US more or less forced it to open itself up to the world). Japanese has not, therefore, spread far beyond Japan, as a consequence of this.
By sheer population numbers, Japan would be about at #11, with around 120 million native speakers.
As for declining languages, Scots Gaelic would be way up on this list, along with several near-eastern dialects.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Val – No apologies necessary. I think so many people fail english composition because of the lack of strict, structured rules. Every instructor comes in with their own notions. My freshman instructor refused to allow you to begin a sentence with and or but. I think its necessary sometimes. In one paper I wrote, I left it in the final copy even though she had marked it on my rough draft. I was willing to take a cut in my grade to write the way I felt was appropriate. Since then, I’ve noticed authors doing it all the time. Ok, what was my point? Oh yeah, my brain hurts.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:27 am
@ Mel: Mandarin is not spoken in just China alone. there’s chinese people all over the corners of the world, so definitely Mandarin will be spoken. there’re indonesian chinese, malaysian chinese, singaporean chinese, american chinese, canadian chinese…. i’m a malaysian chinese and i speak mandarin and cantonese. cantonese is not a language, it’s a chinese dialect, widely spoken in Hong Kong. i find that a lot of chinese people, when they’re educated, tend to forget their roots and stops speaking chinese. thus, a lot of younger generations of chinese in other parts of the world except china dont speak mandarin. for example, many urban city folks’ children do not know how to speak mandarin though being a chinese. what a shame. that’s what we chinese called “banana”-yellow outside, white inside. only knows how to speak english.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:35 am
Oh I just can’t help myself. Here are only a few RELEVANT words in English taken from Spanish:
Aficionado
Albino
Alfalfa
Armada
Booby (as in booby trap, but it certainly has been used for other things
Bravo
Bronco
Buckaroo
Cafeteria
Caldera
Canyon
Cargo
Chocolate
Guerrilla
Lasso
Machete
Margarita
Marijuana
Renegade
Rodeo
Salsa
Savannah
Savvy
Stampede
Tobacco
Tomato
Tuna
Vanilla
Vigilante
Some others are too obvious to put here. Please remember, Mexican culture is only a part of Latin American culture.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:41 am
Peyton: I was referring to countries in which the language is an official language, not all countries where it is spoken, otherwise I’m sure we can find English speakers all over the world too.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:56 am
Venezuelans speak spanish.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Nice list flamiejamie and your descriptions of each language made it much more fun and entertaining to read than a school text book or an encyclopedia. I am always envious of people that can speak many languages.
Copperdragon, I just looked up Japanese and it’s at 125,000,000 I guess that would come in at # 11
June 26th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Sorry Randall I just now read your response to Copperdragon after I posted my commment.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:06 am
I’m not surprised to see that many Westerners believe that English is the most beautiful language in the world. For me, the beauty and intricacy of Chinese and Japanese characters wins out every time.
honestly, there is no such thing as a most beautiful language, to me. All languages have their own special beauty.
(by the way, the “hao” in “ni hao”, “你好”, is actually a third tone so your voice wouldn’t really come back up. The second tone is the one that goes down and comes back up gently.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:07 am
and to think that the US was discussing adopting ebonics a few years ago. try teaching that as an english as a second language class.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:10 am
You guys forgot the most important language of all!!!!
Body Language! The language spoken by all people!
Otherwise than that it was a nice list!
June 26th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Well, I guess knowing the Second and Tenth biggest language in the world is very important!! Glad i know them both, WOOT
June 26th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Had an inkling that Mandarin would be #1. All the more reason to learn it. Kind of shameful that I haven’t yet, considering I have a Chinese step-mom whose native language IS Mandarin, and she can speak fairly decent Japanese and passable English.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:19 am
I’m under the understanding that English and Spanish are the most widely spoken languages, correct?
I speak both fluently. I was born in Cuba and came to the US when I was 4 1/2. We spoke Spanish at home while I learned English in school.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:22 am
82- Cheesygirl:
That’s exactly what I meant, haha. The rules aren’t strict. Some say you need to put a comma in one place, others say don’t, etc. Also, in French, you can’t seperate certain things and put them on another line, say like a date, the name of a person, etc. Like say you put “June 26″, and that ended up at the end of a line, and the next line started with “2008″, that is considered an error in French, so there a keyboard code to make the spaces so that it will all be connected. Complicated! Anyways, I’m obviously biased about the English rules because I see how many there are in French, haha.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Wutz Up, Freeks? English and German are for science and business, Spanish, French, and Italian are for Dionysian activities. Too many glottals in the former.
I live in SF, so I hear Mandarin spoken all the time, and I hate to say it, because it sounds so xenophobic, but Chinese sounds like broken glass in mud.
I translated some poetry into Spanish from English, and it helped it immensely, I have to say.
I think chocolate is an Indian word.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:30 am
At the risk of being chauvinistic though–funny that, Chauvin was a Frencher–English smokes every other tongue. That’s because it is an indiscriminate thieving bastard, burgeoning under its glorious rapacious mass. Talk about redundancy, but so fucking nuanced.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:31 am
I have to disagree that English is a particularly beautiful language, (though perhaps it is a bias that it is my native tongue) I agree that we have beautiful poetry, but that is not because of the beauty of the language itself, but of it’s meaning and rhyme often helps though is not always the case. Personally, I believe that French is one of the most beautiful languages I have ever heard.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Chocolate comes from nahualt, aztec’s language, as well as many other words normally use in México (aguacate, chapulin, maguey). Also, there many words that come from arabic, such as alberca (pool) or almohada (pillow). Just something I learned some where.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:46 am
In portuguese “Bom dia” (bohn DEE-ah)means Good Morning.
Hello = Olá.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:49 am
69- Randall:
No, I get the nuances in English perfectly. My first language is not English, you guessed that correctly, but I’ve been speaking it since I was 10 and we study it a lot in my classes, so that we can translate it correctly.
Many writers don’t get the nuances, however, and when writing use a lot of the same words which seem to mean the same thing but don’t exactly. It’s the same with French.
Surely in more poetic writing, having many words certainly adds something. Unfortunately, when many people write, they try to be too “poetic”, adding words here and there which can tend to confuse the average reader. But this is from a translation student’s (and soon to be translator’s) viewpoint. I understand that Egnlish writers may not share this opinion. English doesn’t necessarily have more words or adjectives, people just tend to use them more. You may say, “Just look: English has way more words than any other language”, because English has also borrowed many, many words from other languages.
I simply used the United States as a modern example of why it is more popular. I do believe it is because of the British invasions and whatnot, because when they are forcing you to speak their language, and imposing it on you, you go ahead and speak it. Today it’s the sheer fact that so many people speak English, that when you’re not an English speaker, you’re almost forced to learn it just to be understood. I’m from New Brunswick. Northern New Brunswick is much more French because of the proximity of Québec, and southern New Brunswick is much more English because of the proximity of Nova Scotia and Maine. Technically, New Brunswick was French territory called “Acadia” (along with part of Nova Scotia), but because of British invasions etc., the English language was imposed. French New Brunswickers are therefore almost forced to learn English (unless they want to move to Québec) because most of New Brunswick speaks English anyways.
Any language can be just as versatile. The lack of English rules per se just make it much easier to add or change things. French is a lot more strict on changing the spelling or meaning of words. They have a department of neologisms where they try and invent new words as new realities come about and have criteria about which word they will allow or not allow. In so, making the language more concise and functional.
No rules means no one writes the same. I have to admit sometimes I have to re-read a sentence a few times before actually understanding the meaning because there SHOULD be a comma, for example, but the writer didn’t feel like putting it there. A good thing? Not necessarily.
“If there are not at least two exits or exit paths are blocked”
That was a sentence I had to translate the other day. Because of the absence of “if” on both sides of the “or”, I considered it the same idea and therefore the sentence made no sense whatsoever.
If there are no rules then people will just write however they want to write, making it sort of difficult to figure out what everyone means.
Again, this is from a translator’s viewpoint, so I scrutinize and examine every sentence, but I realize a lot of people don’t do that.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:49 am
I agree about Hungarian being very hard to learn. I’ve been married to a first generation Hungarian for 17 years, and I’ve only been able to learn swears!
June 26th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Hi,
Indonesia has population about 222 million people (2006 – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesia). And because Indonesian is the national language of Indonesia, so at least 222 million people speak in it. If you combine Indonesian with Malay, it will be much more people speak it, because Malaysians use Malay as their national language.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:53 am
What you mean Esperanto isn’t the top language. I have to take my learn while you drive CDs back.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:57 am
I like the list (some of the jokes are not that funny, but they can be overlooked). In response to some of the comments, you are all right about the numbers of people speaking English as a second language being very high, but it is very hard to measure those people’s competence in it.
I’m training to be a translator, which is a job that’s sort of taken for granted here because everybody THINKS they can speak English. I think it’s safe to say that the most spoken language in the world is bad English.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:00 am
105- Foxy:
High five! Future translators ftw!
“which is a job that’s sort of taken for granted here because everybody THINKS they can speak English”
Agreed 100%. DEFINITELY taken for granted. I’ve even been asked countless times what translation is! DUH, do you think it’s done magically?
June 26th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Hindustani is not a language….Hindustani mean people who live in India.
Hindu-religion
Stan-Land
By the way the country is not called hindustan anymore, because not only Hindus live there. Christians, Muslims and Sikhs (i might be missing more) live there as well so the country name now is INDIA.
The language is called HINDI.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:08 am
Jaz: That’s correct. In fact, many words in Spanish are taken from many South/Central American indigenous languages, as well as from Arabic, thanks to their once significant presence in Spain. In turn, these derivative words in Spanish were taken up by English.
Words taken from Portuguese have a similar connotation.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:10 am
The majority of the Belgian people speaks Dutch by the way, not French.
And we don’t speak with a silly accent like the people in the Netherlands do
June 26th, 2008 at 10:20 am
“I think it’s safe to say that the most spoken language in the world is bad English.”
&
“[B]ecause everybody THINKS they can speak English”
LOL!!
June 26th, 2008 at 10:20 am
109. Thomas: “he majority of the Belgian people speaks Dutch by the way, not French.”
Really? I didn’t know that ^_^;; a few people at my university are Belgian and they speak French. Not that I figured it was their native tongue, but they do have a bit of their own terminology (like Canada) so I figured it was at least somewhat majority. X_x
June 26th, 2008 at 10:25 am
(Just got RoyVal’s email address as it popped up with the info. This really needs to be checked into.)
JUST found this as I was surfing:
How English Is Evolving Into a Language We May Not Even Understand
http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/magazine/16-07/st_essay
June 26th, 2008 at 10:36 am
I learn Mandarin Chinese every day when I watch “Ni Hao Kailan” on Nickelodeon every day with my daughter lol. It’s way better than Dora the Explorer….
)
June 26th, 2008 at 10:38 am
Val:
“Many writers don’t get the nuances, however, and when writing use a lot of the same words which seem to mean the same thing but don’t exactly.”
Excuse me? What writers are you talking about? An English speaking writer had better use his words correctly and accurately, or he shouldn’t be writing professionally.
“English doesn’t necessarily have more words or adjectives, people just tend to use them more.”
No Val, I’m sorry, but you’re getting a lot of things wrong here. This statement is simply entirely wrong. English has more than twice the vocabulary of the largest languages. It has more words than Spanish and French combined. And they are not all merely “borrowed” words (but what difference would that make anyway? English DOES borrow many more words that other languages do. But once they’re in common use, they become English words as well, and many of them even become Anglicized, i.e., altered into English versions.
English has adapted, evolved, shamelessly borrowed AND developed its own huge bulk of words for centuries. The largest estimate of the vocabulary of English runs to about 400,000 words.
“I simply used the United States as a modern example of why it is more popular. I do believe it is because of the British invasions and whatnot, because when they are forcing you to speak their language, and imposing it on you, you go ahead and speak it.”
No Val, again… wrong. Now you’re simply ignoring what I told you and contradicting the facts. To begin with, English was NOT uniformly “forced” upon colonials the way the French, say, forced their language onto colonial speakers. But even if you argue this point, the whole thing is really moot. What you are saying explains, partly, the SPREAD of a language, but does NOT explain its sustained popularity. English is hugely popular today NOT because it was “forced” upon non-English speakers–this is absurd anyway, if you think about it for a moment–it’s possible, perhaps, to force a small, contained population to change languages–but the vast millions who took to using it over the years? Hardly. No. What explains the popularity of English is simply its versatility and strengths in regards to word form and simplicity. It adapts readily and changes constantly to fit the needs of the people speaking it. No other language is anywhere near as good at it as English.
“Any language can be just as versatile.”
Again, Val, I’m sorry, but WRONG. Explain how you believe this to be so.
Clearly you’ve got it riddled in your head that English only got where it is via conquest and might. That is not so. I counsel you to go and read some linguistic history and then to reconsider your opinions. This is one of my specialties, so trust me, I know what I’m talking about.
None of the European languages are anywhere NEAR as versatile. I don’t even know how you can make such a claim. Neither are the Slavic languages, or Asian languages. You are simply completely ignoring logic here, by thinking English only got where it is by being IMPOSED upon people. Amongst many other logical points, this simply cannot be so because we would today be witnessing an EROSION of the interest in English, if that were the case, since America is no longer alone at center stage in regards to economic influence. But this is not what’s happening. Instead English continues to grow.
“The lack of English rules per se just make it much easier to add or change things.”
YES, Val! Of course!
“French is a lot more strict on changing the spelling or meaning of words. They have a department of neologisms where they try and invent new words as new realities come about and have criteria about which word they will allow or not allow. In so, making the language more concise and functional.”
And this is silly in the extreme. Languages do not survive and grow by dictate and legislation. The freezing of a language in time ensures its death. French is and has been fighting a losing battle with English, trying to stop its encroachment. It will not work. Great, the French want to save their language and stop the encroachment of English by playing a protective game. More power to them, but it won’t work in the long run. People use languages not because they’re forced to or forced NOT to, but because the language WORKS better for them.
“No rules means no one writes the same. I have to admit sometimes I have to re-read a sentence a few times before actually understanding the meaning because there SHOULD be a comma, for example, but the writer didn’t feel like putting it there. A good thing? Not necessarily.”
Val, punctuation is not language, in the first place. But what you’re saying is off the mark anyway. Heavy and strict rules serve only to FREEZE a language and deaden it. English has survived and thrived, rising up from an obscure dialect spoken by a small number of people on a relatively small island to the number one language of the world–and not by strict rules that make it a thing of stone, but being adaptive and changeable, like a muscular, living organism. You want it to be more like French. Thank god it isn’t. French is and has been in decline for a long time now. English is ascendant because of its strengths, which you are, I’m sorry, failing to grasp.
If you’re going to be working as a translator, I strongly suggest you get yourself back to school and correct these misapprehensions and misconceptions. They will not serve you in the long run, but hamper your abilities.
I have been professionally involved with English for years–in teaching, writing, editing and in many other aspects. I understand your frustrations, but they are off-base nevertheless.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:50 am
I can only speak two of the languages on this list (english and french), but then again my first language is one that is a little less popular, namely swedish.
Anyway, I think that English is probably “bigger” than Mandarin, even though a greater number of people speak the latter, seeing as English is so widespread, and probably more diverse. Now, I don’t know alot about different Chinese dialects, but I think (I’m not sure) that English has a wider range of dialects, each with it’s own slang and intonations. I’m aussie (well, aussie citizen anyway) and since I was little I’ve grown up with aussie slang. Now that I live in another country and speak english among American and British people, I realise just how much of my language is only understood in oz. E.g words like pash, pommy, arvo- I had no idea that these were australian!
Anyway, finally I’d just like to say that this little argument about which language is “better” (how exactly is one language better than another, anyway?) or more beautiful is ridiculous. All languages are beautiful in their own way, and saying that one kind of people speak an uglier language than others is petty and downright mean.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:54 am
Randall: I enjoy reading your comments very much
.
Do you like it when people’s opinions disgree with your own? Or do you reply to them because the idea that someone might be spreading their ‘wrongness’ over the internet bothers you?
You might like this if you haven’t seen it already:
http://xkcd.com/386/
June 26th, 2008 at 11:01 am
#32 astraya: Hungarian is not a “language isolate” as that would imply that it is unrelated to any known language. Linguists have determined conclusively that it is a Uralic Language, distantly related to Finnish and Estonian, and theorize that Uralic is part of a larger family, Ural-Altaic, which includes Turkish and Mongolian among others. You are correct that Uralic languages are completely unrelated to their Indo-European neighbors, though. There is only one true language isolate in Europe: Basque, which is spoken by a minority group on the Franch/Spanish border, which some believe to be the last remnant of the languages family spoken before the Indo-Europeans (The Celts conquered the Proto-Basques then the Romans conquered the Celts.)
#41 Ghidoran: I can’t confirm this, but I believe Hindustani is being used as a collective term for Hindi, Urdu, and Nepali, all of which are close enough to be considered dialects. If this is not the case, then the list is in error, as Bengali, Hindi, and Panjabi are completely different Indo-Aryan languages, and Tamil, Kannada, Malayalam, and Telugu aren’t even in the same language FAMILY as the other three. Indo-Aryan is a branch of Indo-European while the latter four are Dravidian languages, which means Hindi is more closely related to ENGLISH than to Tamil. Although this seems to have been covered already.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Anyone know the number of Cantonese speakers compared to those of Mandarin? Isn’t Cantonese spoken in a large swath of China, especially in the southern cities such as Shanghai? I might be misinformed on this one. I’m not really sure.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Seriously guys, how can it be, that I am the only one who have mentioned Body Language?
I dare to say 78% of all humans on this planet, and 90% of all the animals speak Body Language.
It’s such an important and wide spoken language I don’t understand how it could have been missed.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Randall: I understand what you’re saying. I am still at school, and starting September it will be my last year. I’ve been studying English comparatively to French. I have studied linguistics and I have studied English and I have studied French, believe me.
In saying “writers”, I meant any person who writes a text, whether it be professionally or within an office, etc. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. And that’s exactly what I’m saying, if they can’t grasp the language, they shouldn’t be writing, but they are anyway.
I’m not going to argue with you. I guess it depends what you believe is the criteria for a “good” language. In my opinion, no language is “good” or “bad” and I’m not going to say you are WRONG, as you seem to favour saying about me, because obviously we’re not agreeing on the criteria for a “good” language. In my opinion, by not installing rules, English will come to be so diluted that it won’t be English anymore. If that is WRONG, as you say, then I guess I am WRONG. We’re obviously both biased on our native languages.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:07 am
That being said, I was simply trying to say that English is not BETTER than any other language, not trying to discredit it, if that wasn’t clear to anyone.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:16 am
Val:
Well, please also understand, I’m sorry if I’ve been hard on you, but I’ve been in the field, professionally, for years. So in a way, I’m just trying to help.
I DO know that French Canadians have a certain… issue… with English. I’d just ask you not to let that color your view of the language.
“In my opinion, by not installing rules, English will come to be so diluted that it won’t be English anymore. If that is WRONG, as you say, then I guess I am WRONG.”
Ha! Yes, Val, I’m truly sorry, but on the one hand you’re correct–English won’t become “diluted” (which is what French speakers are paranoid about, in regards to French) but yes, English WILL continue to evolve and will probably continue to diverge and change and may, in time, be partly unrecognizable to us today. (But this could take a great deal of time). But that is the STRENGTH of English, not its weakness. THAT is how English has made the journey its made. Not via imperialism, and not by unfair competition—but by being able to adapt, by its chameleonlike ability to change and borrow and mix itself around. So while you’re right that English will continue to change wildly and uncontrollably in the future (god willing) you’re also wrong in thinking that this is a bad thing, and in thinking that it’s a negative for English not to have stricter rules. These are the things that keep English ALIVE and VITAL. These are the things that ensure its popularity and success. Unlike prissy and pristine, unassailable French, English is a rough and tumble, let’s-get-down-and-dirty language. It’s a street rumbler. It grabs and steals and rolls around in the dirt and doesn’t care. And that’s what keeps it in shape, always moving and always evolving.
And if you know anything about linguistic history, then you should know that languages which fail to adapt, which keep isolated and pristine, begin to suffer hardening of the arteries and wither and die.
This will not happen to English, given its past proclivities. And that is what’s to be praised about English, not damned.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:18 am
peyton – my hubby is one that you would call a banana. He prefers twinkie personally LOL.. Actually I am too but I can actually speak and understand Mandarin and some Cantonese. English is definitely our primary language, but I would like our children (when we get around to having one/some) to learn it.
goatmissile – perhaps SF is not the best place for you! I find that the common mandarin spoken may not sound the best but if it’s used in poetry, or some other proper way, it is a very beautiful language.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:21 am
Allo!
My cégep french teacher (cégep is a school between high school and university in the province of Quebec) once told me that during the Mid-Ages, french was the language spoken by the monarchy everywhere in Europe, even in England. It was like a sign of higher education. English was left to the rest of the population because it was easier to learn. I’m not sure if its totally true, but I would believe it, because even today, complex english words are very similar to their french traduction, while the easiest words are very differents.
ex: scientific = scientifique
dog = chien
Oh, and about the Canadian accent, it sounds pretty similar to the French spoken many centuries ago. So, technically, canadian French is the ”true” French, by opposition to France French, wich changed a lot through the years.
By the way, sorry for my poor English
June 26th, 2008 at 11:24 am
124. Anaïs:
Ouiiii. France is saying how bad our French is, haha >.>; France installed new rules which were unattainable to those in Canada at the time, so the Canadian French just kept speaking the “old” French while the new French “evolved”.
You’re actually the first person from Québec I see say something like that. All the people from Québec I know are so pro-France. congrats XD
June 26th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Oh sorry Randall, I just read your comment and I think I didn’t choose the good moment to post my comment. I don’t want it to sound offensive or anything like that!!
June 26th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Christine:
You said :
goatmissile – perhaps SF is not the best place for you! I find that the common mandarin spoken may not sound the best but if it’s used in poetry, or some other proper way, it is a very beautiful language.
Au contraire, it is the best place for me because of my bias. How else will I rid myself of it? It doesn’t always sound that way, just with some shrill, loud people.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:29 am
Tempyra:
Thank you.
And yes, I have seen that cartoon before. Kiwiboi shared that one with me once.
And we agreed… that’s him and me, to a “T.”
“Do you like it when people’s opinions disgree with your own? Or do you reply to them because the idea that someone might be spreading their ‘wrongness’ over the internet bothers you?”
It’s a little bit of both. I’ve been at this a long time. Way back in 1995-1996 and for a few years after, (when the ‘net was very young) I was a contributor/correspondent on a well-known science site along with my then-girlfriend at the time (she was a lovely brainiac of a woman, like Winona Ryder with the mind of Aristotle or Marie Curie) and it was the fun of the thing for us, back then, to encounter debate and disagreement–we thrived on it, and enjoyed the hell out of it. But also, it was our job to educate and inform, and we took that seriously. Naturally i still do. I’ve fought battles with creationists and conspiracy theorists online, and historical revisionists and political nincompoops, and I’ve also tried to help people who just wanted to know shit and get the right answers. (Cecil Adams is one of my heroes).
The debating and arguing is for fun though, for the most part. I can’t really care, after all these years, if people are that wrong on the internet… it’s too huge, it’d be like trying to police the desert. It’s mainly a way for me to entertain myself, else I’d be doing something else more interesting.
I DO have a problem when people toss wildly incorrect information around on the ‘net though–to me it’s already a problem in our society that there’s a lot of bad information and distortions and even lies floating around. Someone needs to speak up for truth and accuracy sometimes.
But mostly, I just love the polemics. Until it turns dull. Then I walk away.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Whoa whoa. Nice list there, but as a TRUE frenchmen, and a damn proud one at that, the correct pronounciation is NOT Bone-JOOR, but rather, the N is silent, resulting in a trademark French inflexion i wouldn’t even begin to know how to describe. On in french is not Onne, but the O sound is rounded off with an N inflexion.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:36 am
The problem with this list is that it looks like it gets its data from where everyone else gets it, which always leaves out a very important factor: people who speak English as a second language (or French, or whatever). Nobody really knows how many people speak English, including non-native speakers, so it always seems like Mandarin is the most spoken language, except hundreds of millions of people in the world speak two languages, one of them English. Mandarin is generally only spoken by natives, and very rarely by people outside of countries where it is an official language, whereas English is very commonly spoken outside of countries where it is the official language.
So, someone needs to figure out the real figure for these languages…
June 26th, 2008 at 11:48 am
What’s the language I think it’s Asian, might be African where they speak using only clicks of their tongues? That would be hard to learn.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:51 am
What about that language where the people use only clicks of their tongues? That must be hard to learn. And understand.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:52 am
Azucar = sugar. That’s my fave!
June 26th, 2008 at 11:55 am
2 universally recognized words world-wide:Coca-Cola, and Okay
June 26th, 2008 at 11:58 am
I swear that it is actually Britian that speaks it, not just england
DON’T FORGET ABOUT SCOTLAND, N.IRELAND AND WALES!
June 26th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Growing up in Texas, it was natural for me to take Spanish in school. I’ve forgotten more than I ever knew, simply because it’s a “use it or lose it” sort of thing. But when I immerse myself in it, things come back to me. I’ve also read somewhere that English was one of the hardest languages to learn, because we have many words that sound the same but are spelled differently(it’s sad I can’t remember the word for that), many exceptions to the “rules”, and so on and so forth. Spanish was easy, in comparison. Once I got the conjugation of verbs down, that is. It also helps that Spanish is a phoenetic language.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Diamond_Dragon: I think the list is specifically spoken languages. Saying people “speak” body language is not correct in this form. It would be akin to people “speaking” sign language. But, you are correct – if it did apply here -it would definitely be number one. I’m sure no one means any disrespect.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:59 am
HOMONYMS!!! i think that’s what i was referring to in my previous post
June 26th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Anais:
Not at all, and I love your name. I had a friend from Belgium who named her daughter Anais. It’s a lovely name. Anais Nin is one of my biggest faves.
in 1066, Anais, the Normans invaded Britain. Up to that point, English was a primarily Germanic tongue, composed of a couple different Germanic dialects and Danish/Viking. When the Normans took over, they superimposed French onto the language, and French was, for a couple hundred years or so, the official language of court.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
really good and interesting list
bt Indonesia has 17000 islands and is the fourth most populous country in the world
June 26th, 2008 at 12:06 pm
Randall: have you ever researched or studied Olde English (besides the 8-ball version)? Just asking because you mentioned Germanic influence.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Hindi I think there r more than 500 million speakers though few ppl can’t read or write they speak vividly as mentioned there are so many dialects it seems… And oh English is not only a beautiful language but MOST WANTED everywhere and in India or most of the corporate companies and even small offices test people in English if they need to get the job…I have my cousins who speak amazing English and their accent is much better than mine and I speak in Northern way … and I am just done with my High school and my dad says that he won’t sent me back to UK for my higher studies but have to study in India… I have a tutor called Pavan whom I have to address as Pavan “ji” as respect ehehe!(wink wink) Well I do speak little hindi and still learning coz I have to stay here for another 3 years…
June 26th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Hearing people who sign are considered bilingual. Sign is a language.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
#143 was my comment but it posted under him. His info was in my “Name” line. Huh?
June 26th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
trojan_man:
I did indeed. I love the sound of it. I had a professor in college who could recite passages in old English with perfect accent and cadence. Amazing.
And Chaucer too (middle English, but still)… it was great fun just to sit and listen to the guy in class.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
vera: i didn’t realize that “asian” and “african” were languages.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Vera Lynn: They might be considered bilingual but they are not verbally communicating and I belive that is what the author of the list meant.
Randall: Those writings do not sound near as good when they are read in today’s English.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Vera Lynn: by the way, that happens from time to time (someone else’s name in your comment). I think you have to refresh again or leave the site and come back. It’s happened to me before.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Not sure where these numbers came from, but I’ve seen a vastly different bunch of lists and counts based on censuses and collective estimates.
I guess my number one question is whether these numbers are for people’s ‘first language’ or if it’s just anyone who speaks it…
Interesting list, nonetheless.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Yeah Indonesia is 4th in population. Assuming the list is about native speakers only. Some non-native speakers speak a language better than some native speakers. Over a billion people can function in English, since it is so widely studied. Fluency is hard to measure. I’ve heard China may soon have more English speakers than the US. Not sure how proficient.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
jajdude: I second you statement about non-native speakers. The college in the town where I live has a good number of Hatian students who speak perfect English, Spanish, and French. It is truly amazing.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
I’ve heard that the language one speaks affects the shape of the palette. Native German speakers have decidedly differently shaped palettes than that of French speakers. One is not born with the differense; it is created and developed by the stress of the language. Thought that was interesting.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I’ve enjoyed reading the discussion of the list more than the list itself.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
#146 DiscHuker Haha. I know that. I meant the place where it originated. Either in Asia or Africa. You big silly
June 26th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
One of the most famous (of three) languages where you click your tongue is called the Xhosa language, from Africa. The actual ‘clicking’ sounds you can make are in fact several types of consonants called click consonants. Actually, you should use one of those tongue clicks to say ‘Xhosa’ correctly!
June 26th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
VeraLynn: That’s pretty cool. I took 3 years of German in school and didn’t have a problem speaking it (at least without my retainer) but then last year I started Latin and find that a lot harder.
I think the most fun language is Gaelic. It’s so much fun to talk in a language no body else knows, you’d be suprised.haha
June 26th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
I like how Mexico was omitted from the Spanish section even though it has more spanish-speakers than the rest of Latin America. And yes, it is located in North America.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Very interesting list, languages are so fascinating. Nice jokes too.:)
June 26th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
What an interesting contribution! Although it is not in your list, I would like to argue the case for Esperanto as the international language. It is a planned language which belongs to no one country or group of states. Take a look at http://www.esperanto.net
Esperanto works even though it has only a couple of millionb speakers so far! I’ve used it in speech and writing in a dozen countries over recent years.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I tried teaching myself Mandarin once and gave up. I think it’s next to impossible to learn it as an adult. You’d have to be immersed in the culture and even then it would be extremely difficult.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Spanglish is catching on too, even Arnold Schwarzenegger spoke Spanglish in The Terminator “Hasta la Vista baby”
June 26th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
Taranis, actually I’m trying to learn Japanese and Irish Gaelic at the same time. Gaelic is another language that is usually considered “ugly” but that I love. It’s hard to keep track of what all those h’s do to the letters. And the accent marks. Seriously, how would an English speaker pronounce “an bhmhuil”?
June 26th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Don’t they speak Spanglish in Spangladesh?
June 26th, 2008 at 2:01 pm
no its spoken in California
June 26th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
and Texas
June 26th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
yes and in Texas or Tejas
June 26th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Val (52): I think that important and significant have subtly different meanings. Additionally, by having multiple words for one (general) meaning, you get a lot more flexibility for rhetoric and prose
Take these two sentences for example – same meaning but different nuances and feeling:
“The British attempted to destroy the Colonial uprising in America.” compared to:
“The British fought to crush the Colonial uprising in America.”
The second sentence is the better one btw, because it uses no romance words – they are all germanic words, giving more force and clarity to the sentence.
June 26th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
how do we speak in Gaelic…
June 26th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
great list… not only is it interesting, but the funny side comments are great
I enjoyed learning that we got “taco grande supreme” from Spanish! Who knew!
June 26th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
Great list, yes…
I have to say this, though…Prince Henry the Navigator only became ‘The Navigator’ after he did all the exploring stuff and the founding of the navigation school and so one. Why would someone call their children ‘The Navigator’?
That is a kind of nickname, I don’t know exactly the word in english for that.
June 26th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Gosh I wish I was in a more convenient time zone, to join in with this discussion, which at a brief skim through probably ranks as one of the best ever on LU.
I will read this more carefully at work and respond. (I can probably justify spending a long time here, as this is “language research”.)
I added these numbers together. 3610,000,000 people speak these 10 languages – over half the world’s population.
June 26th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Its funny how the only people I heard say that english is a beautiful language are all anglos
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Really, I (and most people I know, I’m spaniard) don’t think of english as a beautifull language. Not as an ugly one, either. For me beautiful would be italian (first) and french (second) and ugly would be japanese and german. English would sit in the middle. Same with poetry, I’ve hear and read english poetry and didn’t get very impressed about it, I like it more in spanish but maybe that’s because I’m spanish, but at last I can see this bias which most english speakers can’t.
About how hard is english to learn, well as you can see my english is far from perfect but I didn’t found it very hard to learn. Gramatically it is not very different from spanish – you can think in spanish and translate to english with minimal mental adjustments and a lot of the vocabulary is pretty similar. I think spanish must be harder to learn because of the verbs. The only part where it differs a lot is in pronunciation.
I don’t buy the Randall argument of english being the lingua franca of the world nowadays. I’m sure that argument make you feel warm and fuzzy about your culture but people speak english because other people know english, no less, no more.
It’s really pretty naive to think that a spanish or french speaker would think “ok, so I’ve to learn a language, I think I will learn english because its gramatically superior and has more words”… no!. I’m sure ALL people who doesn’t have english as a native language is with me on this. No matter how much you’ve studied on this, this is a very simple fact that everybody from outside the anglo-speaking world can see very clearly.
And before you ask, people started to learn english some time ago because of the British empire, making it a convenient language for science and business. Just like latin was before english, and greek before latin.
June 26th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
I knew this. Maybe you could do a list of the least spoken languages, or the most beautiful languages (Finnish should be no. 1!)
June 26th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
“Bonjourrrrrrrrr, yah cheese-eatin’ surrender monkeys”
June 26th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Great list, very interesting, and pretty much the order I would have expected.
I have a true story which illustrates just how inter-related the romance languages are, and how handy that is!
I was on a crew doing a month long shoot deep in southern Mexico. We were based in an old colonial city which was not on the radar as far as western tourists were concerned, and too bad, because the city, Zacatecas, is gorgeous.
Anyway, in high school I had studied Latin and French. One of my good friends on the crew had studied Latin and Italian. Neither of us had any more Spanish than one learns growing up in L.A., but an odd thing happened…after about 4 days, if one of the hotel staff ( for example ) spoke to us in Spanish, he’d answer in Italian, I’d answer in French, and we’d all get it!
That’s a kind of linguistic magic if you don’t understand the root’s for all 3 of the languages spring from the same foundation…Latin (which we both knew ). It freaked out some of the crew, though.
June 26th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
About the world-wide use of English – I remember a series on PBS several years age (’The Story of English’) that included this bit: a lot of former British colonies adopted English as the official language after independence to avoid favoring any one tribe over another.
June 26th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
nice Willie reference:)
June 26th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Randall/Juanjux: I was taught by my latin/french teacher (I excelled at both), that English was most spoken, not because it was most beautiful, not because it had the most words, not because of British colonialism, but simply because it is the language of commerce and technology. Money does in fact talk.
June 26th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
russian is the most beautiful language, just listen to someone speaking russian and you will know, it has many intricacies as well as a great culture to go with it.
June 26th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
lol i love #2
to say hello in english-whats up freak?
lol thats classic
June 26th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
I’m going to be here all day! Where do I start?
English has rules. By gosh it’s got rules. Try “I am more tall than you” and “I am beautifuller than you” or “I have many money”, “I have much money” and “I have a lot of money”. That said, it is possible to break the rules (accidentally or deliberately) and still be understood.
Re the sound of English: many languages have a strict system of vowels and consonants. Japanese, for example, has c-v eg sayonara. English can have ccc-v-ccc eg strengths, sprints, and c-v-cccc eg texts (teksts). As an experienced good amateur singer, I am surprised that Jamie, as a trained singer, can call English beautiful.
Gotta go and teach Koreans “Love of my life” and “I do, I do, I do, I do, I do”.
June 26th, 2008 at 5:19 pm
juanjux #172: I agree with you, largely. How many people learn a language because of its flexibility, expressiveness, beauty, &c? Very few. Learning a language, for most people, is driven by extrinsic factors: economic expediency, political circumstances, simple lack of choice — or even just a sort of osmosis (if you watch enough Hollywood movies you’re going to start absorbing some of the vocabulary). The sun, as they say, never set on the British Empire by the end of the 19th century, & English was either the language of most of the settlers — as in Australasia — or became a lingua franca so that countries where many languages were spoken — such as India — could be governed. Nowadays, to continue using India as an example, educated Indians will speak Urdu or Hindi or Gujarati or whatever at home & in informal situations, & English at work. As the Empire declined, so the influence of American culture grew. It’s alarmingly pervasive now. You know you’re really off the beaten track when you find a village without a Starbucks.
How many native English speakers are learning Mandarin? How many native Mandarin speakers are learning English? Teaching English is an industry in China. The list is somewhat deceptive because it overlooks L2 English speakers — that is, people whose second language is English. If you counted L1 & L2 English speakers, if such a thing were possible, they would easily outnumber speakers of Mandarin.
By & large most people don’t find English too hard to learn to a reasonable standard, especially if their L1 is a romance language. It is relatively uninflected, which means that verbs & nouns change very little according to context, making them straightforward to memorise. In my experience (& I have taught English as a foreign language), learners experience most difficulty with modal verbs, phrasal verbs & the highly idiomatic nature of English. But this doesn’t prevent them from making themselves understood, which is after all, or rather before all, the point of language.
As to the beauty or otherwise of English, well, it’s in the eye of the beholder really, isn’t it? In my opinion the stress patterns of English lend it a lyrical malleability that other languages lack. Poets & songwriters in English have a lot of elbow room. But, then again, everyday spoken English is surely less euphonious than a language like Italian, as I think several people have mentioned above
June 26th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Ter Sami anyone?
June 26th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
p.s.
Pardon
I’m ass backwards here.
send some folklorists out there to document the demise–the dwindling–extinction?
If you cant understand them and they are dying out fast, whay do yah do?
record them?
June 26th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
hey man i’m a big fan of ur lists. i’m a bangladeshi australian muslim. i can speak english, arabic, ‘hindi’ and ‘bangla’ fluently. couple of inaccuracies in the list is that “BENGALI” is not acknowledged anymore rather it is known as “BANGLA” and ur comments about “hindustani” are slightly misleading. hindi is the most spoken language in india but if by “hindustani” u mean all dialects in india then it should be at least at no. 2.
cheers my kiwi buddy.
June 26th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Random thoughts, some in relation to comments above, some not.
I am surrounded by Korean all day. It can be beautiful or ugly, depending on the words you choose and how you say them. Last year my then-girlfriend-now-wife and I went to Hong Kong. I heard loudspeaker announcements in (?)Cantonese and thought that they were ugly by comparison.
There are many synonym pairs or triples that native speakers like we know, use and appreciate the difference, but second language learners can ignore. If there is a difference between “What is your favourite kind of movie”, “What is your favourite sort of movie” and “What is your favourite type of movie”, I don’t know what it is, and second language learners can happily ignore it. (I prefer “kind”, but if students look puzzled, I write up “kind/sort/type” and hope that students will know one of those words.) On the other hand, some words become “stuck” together, for no apparent reason: why “blood type” instead of “blood sort” or “blood kind”? (There is also “blood group”, but you wouldn’t say “What is your favourite group of movie”.)
Most people learn a second language for purely practical reasons. Growing up in Australia in the 1970s, there was no practical advantage for an “Aussie” boy to learn a second language. Migrants, and particularly migrant children, were learning English. I played in a soccer team representing at least 6 different national backgrounds and we all spoke English.
The countries where English has become a strong second language, sometimes to the point of being official or co-official, are those which were once colonies or dependancies of English speaking countries, and where there were many local languages. English had prestige, and English was “neutral”. Countries that fall into this category are India, Nigeria, South Africa and the Philippines. Korea was never the colony of an English-speaking country, and has a strong local language, therefore Korea and Koreans never adopted English to any great extent. In my time here I have met one person that I would call fluent to native proficiency, and about 6 that I would call fluent second language speakers. Everyone else ranges from strong, capable, heavily accented second language speakers, down to non-speakers.
Body language varies from country to country. In Korea “come here” is the hand held palm downwards with the fingers fluttering backwards and forwards. In most English-speaking countries that looks more like “go away”. In Korea, beckoning with the index finger with palm upwards is rude: it’s how you beckon a dog.
“Whoa, lady! I speak two languages: English and Bad English”: Bruce Willis’ character in “The Fifth Element”.
June 26th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
hi… the term hindustani refers to an indian.. hindi would be the right term to represent it.. so please change it..
im an indian though, but i dont speak hindi.. lol
June 26th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
As a native Arabic speaker I think the numbers are way off. One cannot say there are over 200 million speakers of the language when in fact the speakers of the various dialects are unintelligible to one another. As a speaker of Levantine Arabic (Palestinian, Jordanian, Palestinian, Syrian and Lebanese Arabic) I would not be able to understand someone from say Yemen or Morocco. One can always revert to MSA (Modern Standard Arabic) but no one speaks like that in real life. The biggest myth is that there is one Arabic language. I am curious does anyone else know of another language where it varies so much from one place to another that you cannot even understand uniformly? Are there any linguists that can explain why Arabic is still classified as one language when in fact it is not?
June 26th, 2008 at 7:19 pm
peyton: Ni hao ma? I think you are totally wrong to think chinese ppl (outside China) have forgotten the language and their root, well at least in my country, Indonesia. During Suharto’s regime, the language was banned, even so the parents kept teaching and speaking mandarin to the kids. And now after Suharto’s fall, the spirit of this language rises up in which you will find lots of Mandarin school. It is very common chinese ppl speak mandarin here, and we also speak Hokkienish. Also, we still celebrate every chinese celebration here..
Hmmm.. that will make me a girl who can speak THREE most spoken languages in the world!!
three..three.. not bad..
June 26th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
For an excellent website that shows the difficulties of translating from Japanese to English, go to http://www.engrish.com. They mainly show photographs of signs in both Japanese and English, and most of them are hysterical! It’s one of my favorite sites. It reminds me of trying to follow assembly instructions that were originally printed in Japanese. Sometimes they make no sense at all…
June 26th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
@ meiz: haha..me too. i speak Mandarin, Malay and English. i’ve always have some fascination towards Spanish and French. and also, Indonesian. i’ve came to pick up some, cos i worked at J.CO Donuts. surrounded by plenty of indonesians, though most of the time i couldnt pick up any words from my co-workers rapid speaking of indonesian.
June 26th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
what about american? I know 300 million people that speak American
June 26th, 2008 at 8:25 pm
You know 300 million people? Gosh, you have a busy social life. (Did you understand that? I was typing in “Australian”.)
June 26th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
OneDunYa; I don’t think it is that odd. I can’t understand cockney English and even have a hard time with a thick Newfie accent and region specific terminology. Have you ever heard a Jamaican speak english? Definitely a foreign language to me at first. Maybe the difference is that after a few days, you understand it. I went to a sales conference in Newfoundland once, about the second day I understood most everything. I had a friend whose husband was Jamaican, I caught on to his particular patois pretty quick too. Is it the same with Arabic? After a bit you figure it out? or is it totally foreign?
* What the hell is it with using “Blood Clot” as an interjection? Any Jamaicans here that could explain that one to me?
June 26th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Bengali is also the state language of West Bengal, the Indian state adjacent to Bangladesh…
And no, you don’t get pregnant if you breathe the air here… we men still love our hard work! :-p
June 26th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
What a great lists. I don’t know there are so many people in this world speaking different language.thanks.
Note : “Hello” in Indonesia is “Halo” and “selamat pagi” is “good morning”
June 26th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Actually English is one of the easiest languages to learn. Which is not to say it’s easy but there are many, many language much harder to grasp.
There’s hardly any place that you can’t get along in English. Having travelled extensively, it has always amazed me that in the middle of nowhere, in some remote village that doesn’t appear on any map, somebody speaks English. This happens in many countries. In most schools in the world English is offered as a subject and most children are taught it because it’s the language of technology, communications and commerce. So when you consider that most Asian, South American, African, European children are being taught English, if it’s not the most widely spoken language now, it soon will be.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Indonesian speaks bahasa indonesia, second of all its not malay as indonesia and malay are two different countries. Considering we are much more highly populated than malaysia, it is kind a weird that our language is a dialects from malaysia. It is not! we speaks thousands of dialects in indonesia itself and yes the language are from the same roots but we are not exactly the same! We are indonesian and speak indonesian language
June 26th, 2008 at 10:49 pm
I would like to make a point. In Bengali, you don’t say hello by saying “Ei Je”, which literally translates to “Here it is”. You say hello by saying “Namaskar” (N-aum-osh-kaar)
June 26th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
I loved this list. Informative and interesting. Lists like this are the reason I come to this site everyday. Good work!
June 27th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Great List. Good to know that I can speak three of these top ten languages: English, Bengali and Hindi.
One fact: India has the largest number of english speakers in the world and it is the official language of India.
@darknite: Actually, hello does not have any Bengali equivalent, both “Ei-Je” and “Naumoshkar” are used, though we mostly use the word ‘Hello’ to say ‘Hello’.
June 27th, 2008 at 12:53 am
astraya: What time zone is Korea in? AEST here, but I’m mostly nocturnal so I see most of the action live at Listverse
juanjux: I don’t think German is an ugly language and I expect singers of Wagner and Strauss would agree. Strange that a language people here have called ugly should be one that many famous operas are performed in. Although I listen to Rammstein more often than Germanic opera
June 27th, 2008 at 1:06 am
56 – Val – June 26th, 2008 at 7:20 am
“That’s not really the right pronunciation, either, though it IS closer to it… In French you don’t just have the “a, e, i, o, u” sounds, you have a TON more added to that, including “on, en, in” etc. which English does not have, so it’s kind of hard to sound out for anyone to pronounce. But there technically is no “n” sound, or “o” for that matter, because it’s its own sound altogether. If any of that makes sense.”
It’s not exactly the same, you’re absolutely right. But, being French, I think I know how to pronounce ‘bonjour’. Or at least I hope…
June 27th, 2008 at 4:23 am
I typed a long-ish comment, which got lost in transit. I won’t retype it.
Tempyra: Korea (and Japan) are one hour from AEST and half an hour from ACST, which makes it convenient for me to communicate with my family in Sydney and Adelaide. I’m on the net all day at work (theoretically to help with my lesson planning!) and most nights, but less, also first thing in the morning.
June 27th, 2008 at 6:06 am
Juanjux:
Let’s get a few things straight:
“I don’t buy the Randall argument”
This isn’t MY argument, in the first place–it’s the judgement of linguists and scholars too numerous to mention. Nor is it an argument; there’s never been any “debate” about it. English has SPREAD throughout the world via the movement of the English speaking peoples, and via commerce, etc. But it has only succeeded as the PRIMARY ALTERNATIVE language for around a billion people on this earth because of its ease, tremendous adaptability and gigantic vocabulary, and endless willingness to take on NEW words from other languages and adapt around them and their idioms.
“of english being the lingua franca of the world nowadays.”
Well this is just wrong anyway, juanjux, because English IS the lingua franca of the world today–everyone acknowledges that. For god’s sake, look around you.
“I’m sure that argument make you feel warm and fuzzy about your culture”
Juan, I could care less about this from a cultural standpoint. It doesn’t make me feel warm, fuzzy, or otherwise. I don’t say the things I say out of some cultural bias or some desire to make English look good (who the hell would care about that? People pump for their nationalities and ethnicities in this world, not their languages for the most part). The fact is, as we said earlier, in the future English will continue to evolve and suck in influences and so forth from other languages–and in time we won’t recognize it (though surely none of us will be here by then). Now, as a writer and lover of the language, I find that a bittersweet prospect. It’s what English does well, so I’m okay with it–but I’d be lying if I said I was 100% happy that a few hundred years from now, say, a lot of people won’t be able to understand our literature or poetry. Yet I acknowledge the facts about why English is so popular. So don’t give me this BS about it being culture bias or nonsense like that.
“…but people speak english because other people know english, no less, no more.”
Ugh. Juan, you simply don’t understand. I wasn’t addressing why people today LEARN English. Yes, if someone who’s not a native speaker finds themselves with the option to learn this language or that, they’re probably going to pick English because it’s popular and needed for business or what have you.
But that’s not the point. The point is WHY and HOW did English become so popular in the first place?
Here’s an example. We know that Chinese has hundreds (or is it thousands?) of characters in their pictographic alphabet. Now, let’s say also that Chinese was, for the sake of argument, a very hard language to learn. (I know very little about Chinese, so all of this is just for argument’s sake) Let’s say it had innumerable hard rules and a very rigid structure, and also, let’s say, it had a VERY small vocabulary, and very difficult grammar–so that you had to construct sentences VERY carefully, lest your meaning would be totally lost.
So we’d have a language with A) a huge alphabet, B) very hard rules and structure, and C) a tiny vocabulary and a rigid, difficult grammar. And let’s also say that our imaginary Chinese were very dictatorial and protective of their language, and did not allow intrusions of foreign words into it, or adaptations of it to local ways and idioms.
NOW… let’s say that a hundred years ago, China had gone out into the world and conquered a lot of nations on various continents, and then Chinese commerce had spread everywhere.
Would the imaginary Çhinese language that I’ve detailed here have followed suit, in terms of popularity? NO. Of course not. Sure, some people in specific professions may have been forced to learn Chinese as a means of getting by, if they wanted to make it in business or what have you. But they’d ever be small in number, because it would take so long and be such an investment of not only time but brainpower to learn the thing. You’d have, yes, a professional class of speakers who would know this imaginary Chinese. But it wouldn’t be everyone’s second language of choice, simply because it would be too difficult and rigid a language. You’d have to give yourself over to it entirely and couldn’t use it easily in your day-to-day life.
Do you see what I’m getting at?
“It’s really pretty naive to think that a spanish or french speaker would think “ok, so I’ve to learn a language, I think I will learn english because its gramatically superior and has more words”… no!.”
AGAIN, that is NOT what I said. See my comment above.
“I’m sure ALL people who doesn’t have english as a native language is with me on this. No matter how much you’ve studied on this, this is a very simple fact that everybody from outside the anglo-speaking world can see very clearly.”
And the simple fact is that you just did not see what I was getting at.
“And before you ask, people started to learn english some time ago because of the British empire, making it a convenient language for science and business. Just like latin was before english, and greek before latin.”
Again, Juan, no. We could get into why Latin had such a sway for a long time but it was also not for the reasons you mention.
AGAIN, the British Empire helped to SPREAD English–but that does not explain how it gained such a strong FOOTHOLD in the world, and why so MANY people learn it today. For that answer, we go back to what I said earlier, on which scholars agree with me.
June 27th, 2008 at 6:15 am
I was wandering around the Universe today, and saw another list to do with English. Two commenters used the words “awesomeliciousness” and “mysteriousity”. We can understand the meaning of these words. I don’t know whether other languages allow a) new words to be created like this, and b) those words to be understood when they are.
I keep asking, in Korean, “Photo do?” meaning “May I ‘do’ a photo?”. “To do a noun” is perfectly acceptable in Korean, but apparently there’s another verb that goes with “photo”. Even though “take a photo” is standard English, someone asking “May a do a photo?” would be perfectly understood.
June 27th, 2008 at 7:24 am
I never thought that the conversational part of Japanese was that difficult. There are only two tenses and there is no gender or conjugation affected by gender.
The hard part is learning the Kanji, Hiragana and Katakana. But actually speaking it isn’t as hard for me anyway as languages such as Russian or Polish.
June 27th, 2008 at 7:27 am
I speak Arabic, Malay-Indonesian and English.
June 27th, 2008 at 8:05 am
I couldn’t really look at all the comments, but I agree that the Japanese language should be at #10 ^^
June 27th, 2008 at 8:54 am
To say “hello” in Russian, say “Zdravstvuite” (ZDRAST-vet-yah).
well, I speak russian, though, i dont do too well in terms of reading/writing, and you dont actually pronounce hello in russian exactly that way. it is more of ZDRAST-voy-Tsie. Just wanted to let you know.
I am tri-lingual, btw, I speak russian, I am fluent and Hebrew and English.
June 27th, 2008 at 9:16 am
OH Language Language
How sweet you sound and how well you express
Whatever the country it may be
You reign every heart,toungue and mind; I confess
Without you no one could ever understand us
and it would be hard to finish our errand(s)
So in whatever form you are we revere you for sure
Just not our mother tougue we love to learn more
(this is not copied- I have written IT)
==
AND NOW TODAY’s NEWS
My Hindi Teacher taught me names of relations today!!!
till I just know aunt and uncle maternal aunt/uncle or paternal aunt or uncle
Goodness! they have names for every relation! Here we go:
Add ji(G)
Maternal grandmother-Naani
Maternal grandfather- Naana
paternal grandmother-Daadee
paternal grandfather- Dadaa
Mom’s sis-Mausi Her hubby-Mausa
Dad’s brother-Chacha his wife-Chachi
Elder brother-Bhaiya Younger brother-Bhayee
Elder Sis-didi Younger sis -Behen
Paternal nephew-Bhatija… Neice- Bhatiji
Maternal nephew Bhanja- Neice Bhanji
OMG i think todays lesson is over… NO!!!! I won’t post my lesson everyday (heheheh)
I jst wana tel my dad to send me back to Middleton againnnnnnnnnnnnn I cant stay any longer in India and follow strange traditions!!!
I m happy to call Aunty n Uncle and Grandmother and Grandfather… and all others by their name….
June 27th, 2008 at 11:02 am
I wish I knew how to speak every language without having to actually learn to speak them.
June 27th, 2008 at 11:24 am
All debates aside, this has been one of the best written lists in a while and one that’s ripe for plenty of diverse comments(as we see already!!)
June 27th, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Randall,
I wrote it wrongly (maybe english is not so easy after all
) I wasn’t pretending to say that english is not the lingua franca of the world, which it obviously it (and happily for other europeans that find it similar and easy to learn like me – not so nice for Japanese and oriental people which I know find it very hard, not the ease you speak about), I just don’t believe that the reason for its domination are its technical qualities.
Also, as a scientific (but not linguist) allow me my big share of untrust when someone says about something that “there is no debate” like you do on this point. Specially if he uses (twice!) the argument of authority.
The fact is, you don’t have to look very hard to find people that explain the current domination of english using the same arguments I do. So, it seems, there is some debate.
“”"Surprisingly”"”, most scholars I’ve (casually) googled explain this domination in the terms I’ve used, the British empire and then the US superpower. Can you point me to some credible source of one of this “too numerous to mention” scholars that argue the domiantion of english by its technical qualities?
June 27th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
PS: For god sake Randall, even in the (english) wikipedia the first sentence is:
“”"
Modern English, sometimes described as the first global lingua franca[7][8], is the dominant international language in communications, science, business, aviation, entertainment, radio and diplomacy[9]. The initial reason for its enormous spread beyond the bounds of the British Isles where it was originally a native tongue was the British Empire, and by the late nineteenth century its influence had won a truly global reach[10]. It is the dominant language in the United States and the growing economic and cultural influence of that federal union as a global superpower since World War II has significantly accelerated adoption of English as a language across the planet[8].
“”"
Please, notify the too-numerous-to-mention sources so they can edit it and fix this huge error.
June 27th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
All lovers of the English language might enjoy this
There is a two-letter word that perhaps has more meanings than any other two-letter word, and that is’UP.’
It’s easy to understand UP, meaning toward the sky or at the top of the list, but when we awaken in the morning, why do we wake UP? At a meeting, why does a topic come UP? Why do we speak UP and why are the officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write UP a report?
We call UP our friends. And we use it to brighten UP a room, polish UP the silver, we warm UP the leftovers and clean UP the kitchen. We lock UP the house and some guys fix UP the old car. At other times the little word has real special meaning. People stir UP trouble, line UP for tickets, work UP an appetite, and think UP excuses. To be dressed is one thing, but to be dressed UP is special.
And this UP is confusing: A drain must be opened UP because it is stopped UP. We open UP a store in the morning but we close it UP at night.
We seem to be pretty mixed UP about UP! To be knowledgeable about the proper uses of UP, look the word UP in the dictionary. In a desk-sized dictionary, it takes UP almost 1/4th of the page and can add UP to about thirty definitions. I f you are UP to it, you might try building UP a list of the many ways UP is used. It will take UP a lot of your time, but if you don’t give UP, you may wind UP with a hundred or more. When it threatens to rain, we say it is clouding UP. When the sun comes out we say it is clearing UP .
When it rains, it wets the earth and often messes things UP.
When it doesn’t rain for awhile, things dry UP.
One could go on and on, but I’ll wrap it UP, for now my time is UP, so……….. it is time to shut UP…..!
HAHAHA!
June 27th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
I so knew that Spanish was going to be on this list and of course ENGLISH. I’m glad I speak both fluently =)
June 27th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
interresting debate between Randall and Val, i hope Val learns alot in school next year because the last thing france needs is another bad french translater… i live in paris and when i watch an english movie here, translated into french, it amazes me everytime how they manage to f-it up.
btw, i am south african, and grew up speaking both afrikaans and english. afrikaans is arguably one of the easiest languages to learn, and only the second youngest language in the world.
Vera Lynn, the language with the big variety of clicking sounds is Xhosa, spoken by a big part of south africa’s native ethnic groups, and also is the first language of Nelson Mandela.
June 27th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
I don’t know if anyone already pointed this out in the other comments, but the Arabic for “hello” is pronounced “As-salam-oo alaykoom”, even though the “as” part is written “al” in the Arabic script.
June 27th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
well… at least “hello” I know how to speak in mandarin…
but I’m glad I can speak portuguese AND english…
however, I REALLY want to learn russian and mandarin
oh, and german too, of course
June 27th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
I have been thinking about the triple start-begin-commence, by way of example. I can’t, off-hand, think of any situation where only commence can be used, or where it is undoubtedly better.
o”Gentlemen, start your engines”
x”Gentlemen, begin your engines”
x”Gentlemen, commence your engines”
o”It started to rain” – o”It started raining”
o”It began to rain” – o”It began raining”
x”It commenced to rain” – ?”It commenced raining” (is this possible? My brain has gone fuzzy.)
o”The performance will start in 5 minutes – please turn off your mobile phones”
o”The performance will begin in 5 minutes – please turn off your mobile phones”
o”The performance will commence in 5 minutes – please turn off your mobile phones”
o”Ground control to Major Tom – starting countdown, engines on”
o”Ground control to Major Tom – beginning countdown, engines on” (both possible in practical terms, “beginning” fits into the music better)
o”Ground control to Major Tom – commencing countdown, engines on” (it sounds better, but only because we are used to it)
The dictionary doesn’t help: “Commence – to begin; Begin – to start doing, acting etc; Start – [longest definition, with] begin, commence [given as synonyms]” (Webster’s New World Dictionary, which I wouldn’t usually use, but just happened to be at hand.)
Can anyone think of an example where “commence” is either the only possible word to use, or is undoubtedly the best word to use? My point is, that if there isn’t such a situation, then we don’t need the word.
One last point: written language is more fixed and conservative than spoken language. Someone from Kingston, Jamaica could probably read the paper in Mumbai, India, even if s/he couldn’t communicate beyond basics with the person who sold it to him/her.
June 27th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
@221. astraya
It may not be directly “commence” but in the case of a commencement ceremony, a.k.a. graduation wouldn’t make sense as the starting ceremony or the beginning ceremony. Besides that though, I can’t think of anything.
June 27th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
Hi Astraya.
The words ‘start’ & ‘begin’ originated in Old English, whereas the word ‘commence’ entered Middle English via French from Latin. Like many words deriving from Latin it has more formal connotations than its earlier, largely Germanic synonyms. You would normally (but not of course exclusively) use ‘commence’ in connection with ceremonies, official procedures, &c. It adds a bit of gravitas. The words ‘start’ & ‘begin’ tend to stress the moment when inaction become action; ‘commence’ implies a more gradual process. As often with English, these distinctions are very fine.
June 27th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Hi! FYI: Malay is also the official language in Brunei and one of the 4 official language in Singapore..
June 27th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
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221. astraya
Can anyone think of an example where “commence” is either the only possible word to use, or is undoubtedly the best word to use?
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222. Al
in the case of a commencement ceremony, a.k.a. graduation
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astraya: Oddly enough, commencement was the only word I came up with as well. I’m reasonably certain there must be others, but I honestly can’t think of any right now. I’ll sleep on it, and something may occur to me by the morning.
June 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
i need to re-learn mandarin all over again… grew up learning it, but failed to use it often, and all the education just goes bust
June 28th, 2008 at 12:21 am
Great list, and discussion! I’ve always thought the Russian language to be a very sweet sounding language. I’ve also heard that Hebrew poetry is absolutely beautiful. As a native speaker, however, I don’t feel English is exceptionally beautiful to listen to.
Kris (#216):
Although humerous, I believe that the majority of those uses for the word up are not proper english or grammar; rather, the examples are more of a colloquial usage. Please correct me if I am wrong!
June 28th, 2008 at 12:34 am
Thanks for all the interest, everyone! 200 comments in just over 24 hours! That’s fantastic! I’ve enjoyed reading the comments as much as I have writing the list! Keep it up!
-fj
June 28th, 2008 at 12:52 am
good thing i speak english and malay,a lil tamil&bengali, understand mandarin except speaking it..(yea, it is difficult at first) cause it is great to grow up in a multi cultured country like malaysia!! …gonna get some spanish&french lesson soon, but seeing russians are more, maybe im gonna learn it too!
June 28th, 2008 at 4:04 am
My school (in U.S.A.) only offered Spanish and French. At that time I wasn’t interrested in either one, so I took what was supposed to be advanced English. If they had offered Russian, I might have chose it. So, now I don’t know any foreign languages.
I’ve had this urge to be a troll, and say, “What about Klingon?”
June 28th, 2008 at 4:44 am
Re: some of the stuff above about ‘up’.
Q —Whose responsibility is this?
A1 — It’s up to me.
A2 — It’s down to me.
They’re almost the same, but the second version seems to me to carry possible suggestions of reluctance or blame…
I used to have a teacher who started (or commenced) every lesson with the words, ‘OK, everybody, sit down & sit up.’
Prepositions are very versatile in English. The numerous phrasal verbs in the language — verbs where the added prepositions (or adverb particles) give new, non-literal meanings as well as literal ones — are the hardest aspect of the language for people who aren’t native speakers to grasp, I think. To some extent you can get by without them by using Latinate or other near equivalents but you’ll always sound foreign &/or stilted & formal if you avoid them too noticeably. Just off the top of my head, without resorting to a dictionary, here are some common phrasal verbs using the word ‘put’:
— put on = 1) feign e.g. illness, 2) assume e.g. an accent, 3) present e.g. a show
— put off = 1) defer, 2) repel, 3) distract, 4) deter, discourage
— put out = 1) offend, 2) extinguish, 3) broadcast, make known, 4) inconvenience
— put in = 1) install e.g. a new kitchen, 2) devote time to, 3) submit e.g. a job application
— put down = 1) criticise, denigrate, 2) pay a deposit, 3) kill painlessly
— put up = 1) affix, erect e.g. a shelf, a building, 2) accommodate briefly, 3) increase the price of
There are dozens more…
June 28th, 2008 at 5:00 am
Re commencement: as an Australian, I never quite knew what that meant in USA usage, and, as I was always too lazy to look it up, I assumed that it, literally, meant a ceremony at the beginning of the academic year. If it is a graduation ceremony, why not call it a graduation ceremony?
June 28th, 2008 at 7:03 am
Being a lucky bilingual (Russian-German… yes, here he is, your Communist-Nazi…^^) I had a quite relaxed start into the realm of English (still faaaaaar from satisfying, though), had to learn Latin and French in school, started Polish, studying in Japan right now and next is Mandarin… so just a few thoughts about those few:
English: Like written by so many already, I’m always fascinated by that strangely neverending vocabulary. Especially useful if u know German and Latin already^^
Russian: Honestly, I wouldn’t advise ANYone to try and start Russian just for fun like English or French or even Japanese.
I consider myself very lucky to speak it “from the start”.
@ jfrater and several more: You maybe right saying English is very poetical. It is indeed; but the MOST poetical one?
Russian doesn’t have a “double-vocabulary”, but in return it offers great possibilities of expressing things in one word for which we’d need a whole sentence in English or German… I often try to translate to German(being my best language even before Russian) or English and often fail most miserably! You can enrichen a simple Verb with different nuances through single syllables attached: Russian “s-khodil” is – in my opinion – a more elegant way to say “I went and came back” than saying “I went and came back”. The “and came back” is all inside the “s”, btw^^
One of my favorite examples:
letet: to fly (to somewhere) —-> do-letet: to arrive (lit.: to fly until somewhere)
letat: to fly (around) —-> do-letat: to be about to arrive
ne-do-letet: (already stopped flying and) have not been able to fly until your destination (was halted midway or fell down)
ne-do-letat: (still flying but) probably not being able to reach destination (eg. being on the verge of one’s powers)
Very beautifully solved, in my opinion! Don’t know, if that’s possible in English.
Disclaimer: No patriotism is attached to that paragraph above. Just loving languages and poetry^^
Oh, and one more thing: The grammar’s got horribly much unnecessary stuff in it!! But then again, perhaps that’s exactly what opens this language’s possibilities of expression.
Japanese: Difficult grammar, but in a different sense than Romanic languages. REALLY different. And a very similar vocabulary state of things if u compare to English:
Many words can be chosen from “real” Japanese ones, compare to Germanic, and “borrowed” (1200 years ago) Chinese ones, compare to Latin. Even with a similar feeling: Chinese origin words are considered more official and grave.
Very contextual language, thus also very many (fascinating!) subtleties driving the learner mad.
French: I like the sound. Though I used to have a pretty neat vocabulary, I never got past the grammar. Interestingly, I know a bunch of people (including myself) whose Japanese and French are kind of mixed up in their heads. (Accidentally talking Japanese with French people..) Also an interesting thing is, that you can mix Japanese words with a French grammatical ending without losing ANY smoothness or understandability. Very disturbing.
German: Used to be a great language. Some of the grammar can be annoying to learners sometimes.
Latin: GREAT base if u want to study English, German and of course especially all the Romanic languages out there.
Polish: Take that pretty dull Latin grammar and old Russian words and u got Polish… kinda… It’s got a very intriguing sound.
June 28th, 2008 at 7:57 am
juanjux:
You’re just not LISTENING. Again, RE-READ what I wrote CAREFULLY. Perhaps this is it, you just don’t get clearly expressed English.
A) in the first place Wikipedia is not the best authority for ANYTHING…
But B) Even if you take it as one in this instance, it does NOT negate what I have said, because I am saying something ENTIRELY FREAKING DIFFERENT IF YOU WOULD JUST READ WHAT I WROTE WITHOUT REACTING DEFENSIVELY FOR CHRISSAKES.
AGAIN, so maybe you’ll HEAR this time. The British Empire and American economic hegemony explain (in part) the SPREAD of English – which is what that Wiki statement addressed. But that is CLEARLY NOT ALL THERE IS TO IT. *You* cite “Wikipedia” for chrissakes. *I* can cite lingustic and cultural scholars who can CLARIFY this matter for you, since you have such a hard time, apparently, listening to me.
So you want sources to back up what I say, fine. You’ll have them. I don’t fall back on Googling and running to Wikipedia to back up what I say.
Coming up then, “juan.”
June 28th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Juanjux:
Oh, and before I go and dig up a lot of goddamned books and journals in my *extremely* complicated indexing system in that spare bedroom, den, and basement that I call a “library,” I suggest you get off the goddamned “argument from authority” kick, as I PRESENTED to you a reasoned argument from EXAMPLE in yesterday’s post that you *utterly failed* to pay heed to.
It’s evident to me therefore, that you’re one of these people who, when presented with an argument that contradicts their claims, simply ignore it. And that IS the problem with an argument from authority–I will cite MY authorities, and then you will discredit them and/or cite your own. And I will discredit yours, etc. etc.
So while I’m digging up tomes on the History of English and looking through my Noam Chomsky and anthropological journals, I strongly suggest you re-think where you’re coming from and RE-READ what I wrote so I don’t have to keep on REPEATING myself which I HATE doing.
I never ONCE said that Empires and economy had nothing to do with the position of English today. I was, rather, trying to get you to see that there is MUCH MORE to it than that, as any logical person could easily surmise.
But I’m skeptical that you’re willing to listen to reason, to be frank.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:35 am
To #181:
I agree, English pronounciation is VERY hard to learn for someone like me who is a native spanish speaker. There is just way too many rules with many exceptions. But on the other hand, its surprisingly simple in terms of grammar and verb tenses and whatnot, for example in spanish we have 13 different conjugations :S
June 28th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
‘hindustani’ is not a language. that word is used to describe natives of India. Your figure for it is very low- less than half the population of India, where almost everyone speaks it, even if it is not their native language. English is almost never a native language, usually people learn it in school. This is not even mentioning the hindi speakers in the United States, England and the middle east.
Be careful when you say dialects, many languages are spoken in India- which are different from dialects. Each language will have entirely different syntax and often different alphabets.
Moreover, the languages spoken in southern India are unrelated to the ones in the north- the northern languages derive from sanskrit, whereas the southern tongues are from the dravidian family.
June 28th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
The problem with Mandarin is generally NOT what most people imagine it would be. Most people psych themselves out in advance and tie themselves over the concept of “tones”. I’ve seen dozens of pop language techniques employing a dizzying array of foolish gimmicks and idiotic mnemonics to help you “master” tones. The secret truth is: “tones” really aren’t that difficult to learn. As long as you give them reasonable attention, they tend to take care of themselves.
The *killer* part of Mandarin (and orthography doesn’t count) is the glut of short staccato one-syllable homophones. When one clipped syllable can potentially mean DOZENS of different things, depending on how it’s used and what it’s paired with — you have a recipe for major headaches. And by the time you figure out which “chang” or “wei” they were using, they are already 5 sentences beyond that point.
That’s why I prefer Russian. I love Russian because those long guttural words give you plenty of time to think. Heck, there are some sentences where you have time to brew a cup of coffee and check your e-mail.
Been at Mandarin for about two years. Pleased with my progress, but still scrambling. Whenever I get discouraged, I check out “Da Shan”, a Canadian guy who gives many Native Chinese a run for their money.
You’ll hear more (MUCH more) of him during the Olympics.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:51 am
ha i know arabic…sort of
June 29th, 2008 at 1:22 am
Late O’Day: Hey, at least your Mandarin is “only” packed with homophones. At least, when you read a hanzi you know it’s “chang or wei”. Japanese got those imported from China, too. The problem is just, they also had their own words…
人 hito
人人 hitobito
大人 otona
二人 futari
人間 ningen
人類 jinrui
same kanji (character) for “Man”. Read in 6 different cases in 6 different ways…
And no, I still love that language.
June 29th, 2008 at 6:32 am
Great work, Jamie !! Thx for this info. I am Indonesia => to say HELLO it’s common here to used APA KABAR, not SELAMAT PAGI as you wrote. Selamat pagi it self means GOOD MORNING.
I have started to learn Mandarin (Hanyu/Zhongwen,中文)this year. The difficulties that may we face when we start to learn Chinese are learn its tones and characters.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I don’t know if anyone above commented, I haven’t read them all, and I don’t know too much about Arabic in general, but I do know that the college professor who taught me Arabic (a native speaker) said that “peace be upon you” is
As salaam wa’alaykum
In written Arabic, it is written with an L-sounding letter as in Al salaam, but the L, or Lam, is silent, so it is As salaam, wa’alaykum instead of a’alaykum.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
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242. Leland
…the college professor who taught me Arabic (a native speaker) said that “peace be upon you” is
As salaam wa’alaykum
In written Arabic, it is written with an L-sounding letter as in Al salaam, but the L, or Lam, is silent, so it is As salaam, wa’alaykum
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An old friend of mine, who went through the armed forces language school in Monterey, CA. learned Arabic, and he told me the exact same thing.
June 29th, 2008 at 2:27 pm
Because of it’s huge size, there is more people that can speak English in China than there are people living in the United States of America.
June 30th, 2008 at 8:52 am
How many people in China or wherever can speak English fluently? Or better: What exactly IS “speaking” a language?
I learned French, I successfully forgot the biggest part, I started Polish, I can read and understand some easy stuff in both, I can say some stuff, I can’t understand much.
Is that “speaking”? Most people would probably say I can speak English; I think natives will see many mistakes in what I’m writing right now.
So where do u draw the line?
Sometimes I meet Germans whose German is really abysmal. I’d like to take away their right claiming to be able to speak German -__-
June 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Re:227. Joshua – June 28th, 2008 at 12:21 am
Joshua,that was indeed for a humor purpose… ( MAY BE PPL OUT HERE SHUD TELL US)… but my mom says its not entirely incorrect keeping grammar in mind…
Oh I am too young to correct any one u knw!!! or may be u can tel me more on it…
Re:231. ciunas : thanq for noticing that… and sharing more info…
June 30th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Could anyone who often posts to listverse please contact me at Nerikasne@hotmail.com? I am coming up with a little birthday present for Jamie/the site. Sorry for the repetition; I’m posting this on all active lists.
July 1st, 2008 at 3:24 pm
The first speech taught to men was the one taught by God Himself, and that this speech was Arabic — all other languages being the offsprings or offshoots of Arabic. A strong piece of evidence to support this claim is to be found. Muhammad Ahmad Mazhar, who traced many languages of the world to Arabic. Some of his articles and books covering 22 languages including Mandarin (Chinese).
For more details please go to this web address:
http://www.esnips.com/web/Arabic-themotherofalllanguages
July 1st, 2008 at 8:56 pm
you didn’t do your research well on Malay language…
Indonesian language may rooted from Malay but it’s not a dialect. Indonesia itself has over thousands of dialect which may or may not rooted from malay language.
Hello in malay is simply hello which spelled “halo”
selamat pagi is good morning.
July 8th, 2008 at 12:23 am
Bengali has different tones in West Bengal (a state of India) and Bangladesh. Moreover ‘Hello’ in bengali is not ‘Ei Je’ which is rather profane and very much informal. If ‘Hello’ in Hindi is ‘Nahmaste’ than it can be translated to Bengali as ‘Namoskar’ (naw-mos-kaar).
July 8th, 2008 at 10:39 am
well great list…
but two mistakes about the portuguese, the first one is that, venezuela speaks spanish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela), and “hello” in portuguese is “olá”…”bom dia” means “good morning”.
July 11th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Last night in a shopping mall in Korea I saw a t-shirt with a picture of ballet shoes and the words:
“call to arms for all chunkily-penised boys to do her right and do her good – still matters”.
I have no idea a) what it means, b) what clothing designer came up with that “sentence”, c) whether the women who buy it know what it means.
Any suggestions?
July 11th, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Hmmm. That size matters? The more “chunkily-penised” you are, the better she’ll like you in bed? I don’t get the ballet slippers, tho.
July 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Vera,
Just caught you on ‘Recent Comments’ in a break between the Friday night TV film.
If the number of Spams we receive (about evenly divided between penis enhancements, showing you their tits and trying to con your bank account data for some financial scam; anythin up to about 25 a day) is anything to go by, yes. I haven’t dared to discuss the matter with Anita. We splat the spam in silence!
July 11th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
The film ‘Boogie Nights’ has some relevance in that direction though.
July 11th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Spanner Was replying to #252 (Astraya) about some weird T-shirt she found. I cannot figure it. You will probably have more success. Or segue. I, myself, was only taking a stab in the dark.
July 12th, 2008 at 3:21 am
I heard that in Asian countries there is a fad of having English phrases on things such as t-shirts, and the phrases often don’t make sense, or are poor translations. It’s like how some Americans get tattoo’s of Chinese characters that they think say something such as “Courage” but are later told by people who know chinese that they have “I am a donkey cart” tattoo’ed on their neck.
July 12th, 2008 at 5:05 am
I’ve seen many others, but this was an outstanding example. Many others are pure gibberish, but this was so close to making (bizarre) sense.
The only sense I can make of it is to add “The” at the front and drop the hyphen, and “translate” it as “It is still important for well-endowed men to provide sexual satisfaction to women”, which may be true, but even so I can’t figure out why a designer would put it on a t-shirt.
I just googled the phrase and there have been other sightings in China and Korea. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dingadingdang/2630531829/ has a photo of another t-shirt which goes on at length (ha-ha!).
Last week I thought I saw an equally outstanding billboard. Today I checked. Yes, it reads “(Fashion label name): the sexist fashion label”. Possibly true!
Vera, I’m male. I thought I’ve mentioned “my Korean wife” enough times for regulars to know that. (I am always surprised when a LU regular I assume is male turns out to be female. (Rarely the other way.))
July 12th, 2008 at 5:08 am
I just looked at some of the other references returned by the google search. One version has a grammatically complete but still bizarre “Lil’ Kim – and her genius call-to-arms for all chunkily penised boys to do her right and do her good- still mattered”. I looked at the wikipedia page on Lil’ Kim, and there is no mention of her size preferences.
July 12th, 2008 at 9:29 am
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252. astraya
Last night in a shopping mall in Korea I saw a t-shirt with a picture of ballet shoes and the words:
“call to arms for all chunkily-penised boys to do her right and do her good – still matters”.
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LOL!
astraya, while any attempt at an actual translation would be fruitless, I suggest you, and everyone else, visit http://www.engrish.com.
It is a website devoted to such mistranslated or merely tossed together english words for the consumer who speaks no English whatsoever, but like the look, I guess.
Anyway, the site is hilarious.
July 13th, 2008 at 12:24 am
segue: Someone else mentioned that site earlier in this discussion. I peeked, but I didn’t have time to look thoroughly.
The verbal sort-of-equivalent is http://www.overheardeverywhere.com, except that the people reported there are largely (supposedly) native English speakers
July 13th, 2008 at 11:54 am
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261. astraya
segue: Someone else mentioned that site earlier in this discussion…The verbal sort-of-equivalent is http://www.overheardeverywhere.com...
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astraya: Thanks for the tip on that site. I checked it out, and there was some pretty funny stuff ( some pretty inane stuff, too, but enough to more than counter-balance). I even had an overheard conversation to submit!
July 13th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
HI
I WAS VERY VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT BENGALI FIGURED AMONGST ONE OF THE MOST SPOKEN LANGUAGES IN THE WORLD! I AM A TRUE-BLUE BENGALI FROM BANGLADESH AND WOULD LIKE TO CORRECT A MISTAKE IN THE INFORMATION GIVEN. THE BENGALI WORD FOR HELLO IS “NOMOSHKAAR” (PRONOUNCED AS NO-MOSH-CAR) ……EYE-JE WHICH IS WRITTEN IN YOUR POST CAN LOOSELY BE TRANSLATED AS “HEY-YOU!” WHICH IS NOWHERE CLOSE TO HELLO…
July 15th, 2008 at 3:39 pm
Venezuelans speak Spanish
July 16th, 2008 at 10:10 am
I speak Hindi/Urdu, English and French. Here the word Hindustani is totally without any sense. Hindi is the language or more broadly one can say Indic languages for the collection of various dialects….
I once saw somewhere that 48% of Indians speak Hindi as first language and if u also sum up the Urdu from both India and Pakistan, its surely more than 600 to 700 Million ppl or the 2nd most spoken language.
But it will be surprise to some ppl that even in some big cities where Hindi is not understood, one can communicate in English.like i talk to south indian /bengali friends in english than in hindi….
In Urdu being mostly the muslims related language, Hello is Salam or more formally As-salam-o-alaikum. but the other very formal words from urdu for hello can be ‘Aadaab’ (though if u use it in the public, ppl will laugh) and for good-morning its ‘Subh bakhair’ (subh ba khair).
Strange for many ppl.(i m sure) will be that the Hindi and Urdu are almost same in speaking with Hindi having some 60+ difficult words coming from sansikrit and urdu also has some effect of Farsi (from Iran/persia) on it. But strange part is that hindi is written in sansikrit scripts (from left to right) whereas urdu in arabic scripts (from right to left). so in practice ppl from india/pakistan can speak to each other easily but can’t understand what the other one writes….lolz.
Well whats in the hindi movies is by most urdu (or u can say easy hindi), i bet indians will accept it.
July 16th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
so cool
July 19th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
French is definitely the most beautiful language to write poetry and to listen to. English is very utilitarian and sounds too Germanic to be truly a beautiful language. Chinese is nice when used in songs or poetry….. But to see the real influence of the main languages go to this site:The following list is from George Weber’s article “Top Languages: The World’s 10 Most Influential Languages” in Language Today (Vol. 2, Dec 1997):
(number of native speakers in parentheses)
Mandarin Chinese (1.1 billion)
English (330 million)
Spanish (300 million)
Hindi/Urdu (250 million)
Arabic (200 million)
Bengali (185 million)
Portuguese (160 million)
Russian (160 million)
Japanese (125 million)
German (100 million)
Punjabi (90 million)
Javanese (80 million)
French (75 million)
However, in terms of secondary speakers, Weber submits the following list:
(number of speakers in parentheses)
French (190 million)
English (150 million)
Russian (125 million)
Portuguese (28 million)
Arabic (21 million)
Spanish (20 million)
Chinese (20 million)
German (9 million)
Japanese (8 million)
Thus, if you add the secondary speaker populations to the primary speaker populations, you get the following (and I believe more accurate) list:
(number of speakers in parentheses)
Mandarin Chinese (1.12 billion)
English (480 million)
Spanish (320 million)
Russian (285 million)
French (265 million)
Hindi/Urdu (250 million)
Arabic (221 million)
Portuguese (188 million)
Bengali (185 million)
Japanese (133 million)
German (109 million)
The following is a list of these languages in terms of the number of countries where each is spoken. The number that follows is the total number of countries that use that language (from Weber, 1997):
English (115)
French (35)
Arabic (24)
Spanish (20)
Russian (16)
German (9)
Mandarin (5)
Portuguese (5)
Hindi/Urdu (2)
Bengali (1)
Japanese (1)
The number of countries includes core countries (where the language has full legal or official status), outer core countries (where the language has some legal or official status and is an influential minority language, such as English in India or French in Algeria), and fringe countries (where the language has no legal status, but is an influential minority language in trade, tourism, and the preferred foreign language of the young, such as English in Japan or French in Romania). For a complete breakdown of each and an accompanying chart, click here.
After weighing six factors (number of primary speakers, number of secondary speakers, number and population of countries where used, number of major fields using the language internationally, economic power of countries using the languages, and socio-literary prestige), Weber compiled the following list of the world’s ten most influential languages:
(number of points given in parentheses)
English (37)
French (23)
Spanish (20)
Russian (16)
Arabic (14)
Chinese (13)
German (12)
Japanese (10)
Portuguese (10)
Hindi/Urdu (9)
July 21st, 2008 at 1:53 am
i think your research is not sufficient cuz i think Punjabi is also one of the most speaking language…
July 21st, 2008 at 2:29 am
First of all Asalam alaikum.And then thank you to give us the large knowledge.But in my view Arabic is the most important and and the large language.Becoz our holly Quran is comein in Arabic.
If i say somthing wrong so I apologize.
August 9th, 2008 at 5:33 am
I live in China, and let me tell you Chinese is an extremly difficult language to learn. I think the biggest problem is that there is no connection between the way that a character is spoken to the way it is written. For instance, the character for “me” is 我,but it sounds like “wo”. You just have to memorize every character in existence.
August 9th, 2008 at 9:46 am
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270. littlemissrock…Chinese is an extremly difficult language to learn. I think the biggest problem is that there is no connection between the way that a character is spoken to the way it is written. For instance, the character for “me” is 我,but it sounds like “wo”…
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All true, but is there a more beautiful language to look at? Chinese ideograms are paintings, lovely, flowing, full of meaning and beauty.
I can’t say I’d want to try to master it as an adult, (then again…)but I’d truly hate to see it die out, overtaken by the ease of something like English.
BTW, awesome opening ceremonies!
August 12th, 2008 at 8:22 am
I AM STUDYING CHINESE NOW!
Chinese is very interesting!
August 14th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I am Very surprised english wasn’t first
August 14th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
I am Very surprised english wasn’t first, beat By Madarian
and spanish was fourth WOOOOW
August 27th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
I now know how to say “hello” in 10 different languages.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:00 am
I always think that English is the first, but not is Mandarin. I like English, but I hate Mandarin.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:41 am
just a quick one.. selamat pagi in indonesian actually means good morning not hello.. we simply say “halo” to say hello.. not too creative, i must say.. haha..
anyway, i gotta say that indonesian is not just a dialect of malay.. true it’s based on a same language, but indonesian is a different language altogether because it uses adapted words based on Dutch (indonesia was colonized by the dutch u see) and many other languages (well for a country with hundreds of ethnics and races.. u know what can happen) whereas malay uses adapted words from English (same thing.. malaysia was colonized by england). this makes many many many different words and one word in malay may mean differently in indonesian and sometimes the difference is quite big it’s funny! LOL
September 4th, 2008 at 8:12 am
Mel, China is not the only country with Chinese (or Mandarin as some may put it) as its official language. Singapore, Malaysia and Taiwan just to name a few more, have Chinese as one of their official languages. Unless of course, you’re referring to a sole official language? Nevertheless, there are more English speakers (nevermind competency) in the world than Chinese ones. I’m a Singaporean Chinese and for many of us, these 2 languages are constantly on our tongues (pardon the pun).
Ellen, English does not have more dialects than Chinese. When we talk about dialects of Chinese, most of the words sound different but have primarily the same script. Think about the number of provinces in China. Each province has a different dialect. According to my grandma (who was born in China), even from 1 village to the next, a few kilometres away, you could hardly understand one another if you simply spoke.
All said, there’s no perfectly accurate way really to rank the languages. Therefore I applaud flamiejamie for this impressive attempt!
P/S: Once you get past the tones, Chinese is an extremely easy language to pick up, if only to converse. There’re no past and present tenses, no singular and plural, no male and female (boy did I struggle with this when learning French!). And, if you want to count in Chinese, just learn how to say 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,100,1000,10000 and you can count from 0 to 100,000,000! I’M SERIOUS!
September 4th, 2008 at 8:47 am
278. canearthtonne…And, if you want to count in Chinese, just learn how to say 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,100,1000,10000 and you can count from 0 to 100,000,000! I’M SERIOUS!
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Now this sounds like a language I could master mathematics in!!
September 5th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Me failed English.?.That’s unpossible.
September 6th, 2008 at 11:37 am
Venezuela speak spanish, not portuguese.
Only Brazilian’s population is 183,9 millions, plus 10 millions from Portugal, plus 10 millions from Angola and plus 20 millions from Moçambique, results in approximately 220 millions of people that speak portuguese. More than Bengali.
And in all of this countries, the official language is portuguese.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 pm
worst list ever, you should list every country that speaks said languages.
September 25th, 2008 at 6:52 am
Nice page, it was really interesting reading it, but even more interesting reading the comments of persons all around the world!
I have to say though, that i was really surprised to see people who so pationatly argue about the size of the english vocabulary, when most of the words are originated from greek and latin, with greek being the greatest source of the english vocabulary!
Do not forget that almost every planet, asteroid ,planet systems etc, are named after greek mythological persons or creatures and that many of the words in medicin, astronomy, mathematics etc as well as in many more sciences, are taken partly or fully from greek! Here is a document to get you started with and i believe you can find much more if you dig around a little ( i think that greece has exported about 65000 words to the world with most of them ending in english vocabulary!):)
http://www.hoplites.org/Leaflet%20GreekWords1.doc
As for the argument about the best language in the world i do not believe that you can even make the comparison, but even if you try to do so you must find, let’s say, 100 persons who know all the 6809 languages listed in ethnologue’s list and make a survey among them!
Obviously there aren’t such individuals, so my opinion is that everyone must be proud of his/hers native language and that we must stop making this rediculous comparisson
September 25th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
i think that this site is really cool…
u should put a little more graphics in the background!
but besides that i love the site!
September 28th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Very cool list.
And I know you were kidding around, but just to say it: in Portuguese ‘hello’ is ‘oi’.
‘Bom dia’ is ‘Good morning’.
October 1st, 2008 at 11:57 am
i love the language french i sounds realy cool. i study it in school. i love arabic because i speak it at home. i like not love the language english it is o.k. but the way the people (teenager) makes me fell sick e.g watz up blood (ew). english could be a much better language with out the phrases watz up blood in it. by the way this is a realy cool web because i have never seen people write that much comments mostly they write one word or a sentence. but hay onestly this is a realy cool web.
October 1st, 2008 at 12:14 pm
286. Duha , most of the people who subscribe to this list are more adept at the English language than the “e.g watz up blood ” you quoted.
Here you will find people who use English as it is meant to be used, and when it is so used it is beautiful.
I’m sure you love your mother-tongue, Arabic. Loving one’s native language is natural, it is the very thing that binds us to our family, our home, our way of life.
Keep on learning all you can. You strike me as highly intelligent. Don’t waste it.
Stick around List Universe, too. You’ll learn a lot!
October 7th, 2008 at 8:12 am
wow i had no idea that mandarin was the most spoken language in the world
October 9th, 2008 at 11:11 am
selamat pagi means good morning not hello
we also said “apa khabar” means how are you but
in malaysia for mostly muslims, say assalamualaikum means peace upon you.
October 10th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
It doesn’t make much sense to say that English is better than another language because it has a very large vocabulary. Perhaps those other languages can express the same nuances that English using other means (prefixes, suffixes, word order, etc.).
October 11th, 2008 at 5:39 am
290. bas: One reason people claim English is a “better” language than another is simple; English has an amazingly large vocabulary, having borrowed words from every other language it has ever come across, and having multiple words for the same thing, all with slightly different nuances.
Now, every language has it’s own beauty. Every language is the most beautiful language in the world to the people born to it.
But if we are talking purely on a useful level, English has it hands down. For use in business, English is the world standard for a reason.
In school, I learned French and Latin. In Uni I took ancient Greek root words.
If I could learn them, there are two languages I’ve seen on NatGeo programs I’d love to know; one is done all in whistles and tongue clicks, and the other is all sung. How fantastic! Not useful for everyday in the city, but perfect for where it was designed for!
A language has to be useful to be functional. The thing with English is that because it has words for everything, it is entirely functional, and that is what was meant by “better”.
Not more beautiful, or more harmonious, more useful.
October 11th, 2008 at 7:58 am
I disagree in part, because it seems you are saying that the richness of expression has a direct and unique relationship with the vocabulary, and it isn’t.
There are other languages that follow other structures and are equally accurate, not everything is vocabulary. For example, it could have the following correspondences between two languages, with each pair expressing exactly the same thing:
A Language ——— B Language
ADJECTIVE_1 NOUN — ADJECTIVE NOUN
ADJECTIVE_2 NOUN — NOUN ADJECTIVE
ADJECTIVE_3 NOUN — ADJECTIVE+suffix NOUN
ADJECTIVE_4 NOUN — ADJECTIVE NOUN+suffix
ADJECTIVE_5 NOUN — ADJECTIVE+suffix NOUN+suffix
…
Is the A language better for having more different words than the B language? I don’t think so, the A dictionary will be bigger, but both languages are equally rich and useful.
October 13th, 2008 at 6:10 am
this is sick sorry yh sorry brapp england!!
October 13th, 2008 at 11:12 am
It really a good knowledg really i read it.
October 14th, 2008 at 7:57 am
yeah,quite flabbergasted to be frankly honest with you,becausei always thought spanish and english are kings and the dutchees of languages,so bit taken aback.and you can really say mandarin is popualar as its just spoken in one country and few around it,english if you go to in the middle of africa i am sure you will find someone who can speak english but not mandarin,as well as loads of other places around the globe,so for me anyway is english alghough its my first language but i am bloody good at it so practically english is my language that i speak most of the time but just dont consider as my first any way ao viour.
November 4th, 2008 at 11:48 am
On Venezuela they speak fucking SPANISH. Brazil is the only South American Country that speaks portuguese.
Bom dia = Good Morning
Capirinha = Brazil National Drink.
November 8th, 2008 at 12:46 pm
I speak english,french and a lil spanish . J’adore le francais !! C’est fantastique !
November 14th, 2008 at 12:49 am
I Speak Indonesian, Arabic, French, and English….WOW this list is awesome
bt out of curiousity, shouldnt Indonesian be higher since Indonesia’s population it self is 228,728,495, and about 95 percent speak indonesian fluently, and also Malaysia’s population is like 25 million, don’t forget Singapore and Brunei and some parts in south thailand, if you want to generalise Indo-Malay bahasa as one language
so it needs a higher rank
November 17th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
I stumble across another list, listing both native speakers and if significant added the number of second language speakers or other people with sufficient knowledge of the language. This results in the following list:
Rank Language Native speakers Second Language Total speakers
1 Chinese 1,210,000,000 178,000,000 1,388,000,000
2 English 341,000,000 870,000,000 1,211,000,000
3 Hindi 487,000,000 900,000,000
4 Spanish 358,000,000 100,000,000 458,000,000
5 Arabic 320,000,000 320,000,000
6 Portuguese 250,000,000 20,000,000 270,000,000
7 Russian 160,000,000 110,000,000 270,000,000
8 Bengali 207,000,000 207,000,000
9 Japanese 125,000,000 2,000,000 127,000,000
10 German 100,000,000 100,000,000
I’m just amazed about how little is known about this. Every list gives you totally different numbers.
November 17th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
hmmmm you’ve got to love how they remove the spaces, ruining the table. If there are only two numbers, the middle column is empty…
November 19th, 2008 at 3:13 am
To say “ei jay” is more like “oi, you!”. And Bangladeshis aren’t the only ones who speak Bengali, but people in Calcutta do to. For those who know Chinese, comparing Bangladeshi bengali and Calcutta bengali is like comparing Hokkien and Cantonese – they’re 2 different dialects.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:16 am
The language spoken in India is Hindi and not Hindustani as stated. In fact there is no language called Hindustani. Please correct it.
Cheers
November 24th, 2008 at 2:32 am
These statistics are not correct because Turkish including its dialects is spoken by approximately 200 million people in the world especially in Central Asia and Europe.
November 28th, 2008 at 11:55 am
Here are other statistics about the most spoken languages in the world:
http://translation-blog.trustedtranslations.com/the-most-widely-spoken-languages-2008-11-04.html
I don´t think the statistics mentioned here are accurate.
Bests
November 28th, 2008 at 11:59 am
IUS: your stats are from 2000 – 8 years is a long time…
November 28th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Prashanth: Wikipedia doesn’t agree with you:
full article – Hindustani Language
November 28th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Turkish Man 61 Trabzon: there are roughly 60 million Turkish speakers in the world – that puts it well out of the scope of this list.
November 28th, 2008 at 2:37 pm
You are right, jfrater, but I didn´t find newer statistics that could be trust….
November 30th, 2008 at 4:34 am
Actually, in Brazilian Portuguese if you want to say hello, you would say “oi”
“Bom dia” means good day
December 1st, 2008 at 3:06 am
French Fries aren’t French!
They’re Belgian.
Have you ever eaten fries in France?
Yuk.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:47 am
You have a lot of mistakes in your site!!!!
First, the population of Brazil is 200 millions, plus Angola, Mozambique and other countries that makes Portuguese number 5 or 6 and for sure above 200 millions.
Secondly, Portugal did not have independence from Spain! Portugal was the first country to be formed in the Iberian Peninsula with the approval of the pope. Spain only because a country many years after in the 15th century.
Furthermore the discoveries by seas were lead by the Portugal because the most advance naval science of the world was there at the time.
Despite the mistakes, you have a pretty picture of Praça do Comercio.
Cheers,
JG
December 9th, 2008 at 7:02 am
there is no language name HINDUSTANI in india
if u dont knw tht u specified language is nt existed then hw can u give datas of ppl speaking languages
FAKE DATA
December 9th, 2008 at 9:18 am
312. indian: if u dont knw tht u specified language is nt existed then hw can u give datas of ppl
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What language is the example above?
December 9th, 2008 at 9:41 am
@ 292 bas: I could´t agree with you more. Nuances in meaning do not necessarily come from having more words but from their use. I admit that Spanish is my native language (but I have been speaking English since I was 3) so I think I have a pretty good grasp on both. Spanish (like French) is much more romantic in its written style.
Randall: I would like to see those references you mentioned. Not that I don´t trust you, I just find your argument interesting. While you may be right as to why it BEGAN to gain in popularity, I really doubt that a large vocabulary and easy writing style are the main reasons behind its expansion today. I have lived in South America my whole life (initially in Venezuela where I spoke Spanish BTW
) and I have never heard anyone state that as a reason. People learn English because it is today´s global language. Exactly the same reason people used to learn latin: it was the language used to communicate with people of other countries and cultures. You no longer NEED to know 6 languages (though I highly recommend learning new languages as it expands your horizons), all you need to know is English and you can get by.
IMHO, its convinience does not make it better or more beautiful than any other language.
December 9th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
dis bitchass list siiiiiike its kool and informative keep it up yall
December 16th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
I’m afraid you may need to swap Portugese and Bengali around, as roughly 20 mill Bangladeshis speak Sylethi and not Bengali, Bengali is generally known as the language of the Indian Bengalis whereas Sylethi is more Bangladeshi as it is from the Sylet district in Bangladesh and majority of Sylethis are muslim too. Sylet is quite an underpriveledged area and therefore many people are unaware of safe sex and have many children. The number of Sylethis worldwide (lots of them have migrated and Sylethis make up a large number of Bangladeshi immigrants) is perpetually increasing.
Also Indians: Hindustani has been used here as a blanket term for all Indian languages (try to read the list perhaps?) It means Hindi, Marathi, Gujarathi, Punjabi etc.
December 16th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
What’s up, freak?
LOL. ^_^
December 18th, 2008 at 9:33 am
Knowing both Mandarin and English!
Cheers
December 19th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Yeah, as some others have already mentioned, Spanish is spoken in Venezuela and Brazil is the only language in South-America where Portuguese is the official language.
Anyways, I speak Hungarian as my mother tongue.. I think that should be top 1 language of the world !!
Besides that i speak English,German,Spanish and Russian as well
December 22nd, 2008 at 10:50 am
Actually, it’s “ZDRAS-tvooy-teh”.
Mandarin is surely the most difficult language in the world, as well…
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:40 am
Dude, there is no language like Hindustani, it is called HINDI.
Hindustani is the term given to the native citizens of India
December 23rd, 2008 at 6:42 am
& yes u r very right about the movies…!!!
December 23rd, 2008 at 10:06 am
Dude, go for Sanskrit.
Sanskrit was considered as “Dev Bhasha”, ” Devavani “or the language of the Gods by ancient Indians. The word sanskrita, meaning “refined” or “purified,” is the antonym of prakrita, meaning “natural,” or “vulgar.” It is made up of the primordial sounds, and is developed systematically to include the natural progressions of sounds as created in the human mouth.
The Sanskrit grammarians wished to construct a perfect language, which would belong to no one and thus belong to all, which would not develop but remain an ideal instrument of communication and culture for all peoples and all time.
Sir William Jones (1746-1794)
” The Sanskrit language, whatever be its antiquity, is of a wonderful structure; more perfect than the Greek, more copious than the Latin and more exquisitely refined than either: yet bearing to both of them a stronger affinity, both in the roots of verbs, and in the forms of grammar, than could possibly have been produced by accident; so strong indeed, that no philologer could examine them all without believing them to have sprung from some common source which perhaps no longer exists…”
The creation of Sanskrit, the “refined” language, was a prodigious work on a grand scale….It has an immense vocabulary and a very adaptable grammar.
NASA discovered that Sanskrit, the world’s oldest spiritual language is the only unambiguous spoken language on the planet
December 28th, 2008 at 11:10 am
yes ,,there is no language as HINDUSTANI!!!… its “HINDI”…
December 30th, 2008 at 5:07 am
I think the idiot who wrote the comments about Bangladesh should re-think what he has written about Bangladesh
January 1st, 2009 at 5:28 am
there is some error on the Indonesian language.
“selamat pagi” means good morning.
in order to say hello, u can just say “hai”, or “halo”.
January 2nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
This ranking is ridiculous. Venezuela speaking Portuguese??? What level of expertise and accuracy has been taken into consideration?! This is a typical research to satisfy the average american, who thinks the whole world should speak english. Pathetic, this is what this article is: PATHETIC!
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
There are more beutiful languages than english by far
. One example is japanese (or chinese) which is an art more than a language, or the spanish which is said to have the best grammar.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
LOL! I speak at least 8 of all those languages!
January 16th, 2009 at 5:23 am
I know urdu is 3rd mostly commonly speaking in the world.
January 24th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
if i were to learn a new language, what would it be then?
mandarin? hindustani? french? or maybe portuguese?
i want to learn something useful…
but something that wouldnt be too hard.
(we are supposed to try to learn something new in a span of 5 months for a project– so what would i learn the most in?)
January 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
You may say that more people speak mandarin. But I have one point to the most powerful language on EARTH.
What are we all seeking (from many nations) right now on this the internet.
We aren’t specking mandarin and I don’t see that changing.
January 24th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
seeking=specking
January 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
To learn a foreign language is useful to know more about this world. Language is just a tool for communication. So, to argue which language is the most beautiful is so silly. Some people in the non-English native countries hate the Americans may come from what these Americans think and express. If you learn some foreign language and learn to know and respect the culture of the other countries, you will know how different and how interesting it is! Please be humble to learn more, if possible! It’s a necessary attitude everyone need to have in 21st century!
February 1st, 2009 at 5:34 am
you have not mention urdu although about 300 million people speaks urdu in the world in Pakistan,Hindustan ,Bangladesh,Nepal Maldeeb ,
February 6th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Am suprised English beat Spanish.
February 13th, 2009 at 12:28 am
In my opinion your research is not very perfect the reason is there is no HUNDUSTANI language the name of language is URDU the Hindustani language is SANSKERAT which is no more spoken and understand in India
But the script is still there and they write the Urdu in this script the langue you mention is not even spoken and understand in half of India that is south of India so I request you please correct yourself and update the information you have. Thanks
February 13th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
As a Dutch person, I take offense (?) #10. Ahum??
For the rest of the list, though, I forgive you. Languages are cool and very interesting
You know, I used to want to be English or American, so that that can be my native language, but right now, I am actually quite glad I am now. Because we basically have to survive on other languages (exaggerating here), we always learn them in school.
So far, at school, I have learnt English, Dutch (obvious ones), French, German and I also take Latin and Greek (useless for speech, of great use for etymology).
Wondering, though – Arabic is listed (somewhere) as one of the most difficult languages to learn for English-speakers. Then I must assume it is as well for Dutch people…
But I am currently learning Hebrew, and apparently there are many similar Arabic and Hebrew words. So is Arabic still hard when you have an intermediate step?
February 15th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Hey Hey Heyy !!!
Don’t u Think Im The Best …
I’m British Bengali…
Soo I Can Obviously Speak English Dead Straight !!!
Soo I Can Obviously Speak Bengali Dead Straight… But In Two Different Dialects…Shurdo & Sylheti
Plus I Can Speak And Read Fluent Spanish & Hindi/Urdu
I Have Been Learning Arabic Since Age Of 3 & Can Speak & Read & Write Fluently. [ Need It When I Go Middle East]
I Have Noteable Knoledge Of French & Mandarin & Can Speak Slight Portugese
On Top Of That I Am Wicked At Indo-Malay But Only 1 Dialect…Shrivanti…My Granpa Made Me Learn That =D
Soo Who Else Can Speak 10 Different Languages ???
I Also Speak Urdu [ Pakistan ], German, & Have A Strong American Accent =P
Scribble Back Peepz
February 16th, 2009 at 1:13 am
Why URDU is not in the list? T
February 22nd, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Dutch fries?? did you know fries actuelly come from the dutch part of belgium???? and the dutch.. they kiss better ah ye
February 25th, 2009 at 6:37 am
i used to live in malaysia and indonesia. well, i prefer malays laguage more than indonesian. indonesian dialects is so annoyed me so much. besides, when i’m lived at indon. their actress and actor was sooo like hollywood wannabe. one more, when they started to speak in english i need them to speak again and again so that i can understand.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:38 am
all the languages are butifull and i don’t befor how many languages spoken in the world but now today i knows them.
thanks
voice of amarica’s team.
February 28th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Out of the 10 most spoken language in the world..I am fluent in English, Mandarin and Malay. I also speak 2 other chinese dialect which is Cantonese and Hokkien … weeeeeeeeeee :p
March 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 am
Please sight the source of this information?
March 8th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
i speak 3 language chinese(cantonese), español and english
In my experience i found that the following details of each language
English; is very simple language to learn or maybe very easy if you native language is Spanish or other latin family is less complicate grammar than Spanish but not so luckily for ppl that speak non abcdefg.. language such as east-asian, arabic, etc.. and i learn it as a secondary language when i was 12 years old, becoz my parent knew the importance of english in my future.. Why English is so popular becoz is the main language of the USA, ppl learn English not becoz is easy neither it’s beautiful, is becoz a lot of things are base on English and my father was true
spanish; as it say is a romance language, for me spanish is more beautiful for romance and poetic expression than english, but for learning and grammar is not as easy as english , but for ppl that speak Portuguese france or other abcde.. like language they can manage it easily just putting I little bit of effort, when I was 7 years old my family migrate to Dominican Republic where speak spanish so I can pick up Spanish by no problem , I tell you something I can understand a little bit of portugues and Italian with any experience becoz they are very similarity.
Chinese: I can speak Chinese Cantonese becoz of my origin. It’s very ancient language differ from abcde.. like language becoz you can discover a lot of new secret and myth about language for me is more romantic and poetical than any ABCDE.. language. Chinese use symbol to represent a word then just make combination of them you can manage Chinese using 3,000 of these symbol sound difficult right, but is easy in grammar there are no past present future for verb (Spanish will make you sick with this case ) . if you can memorized those character then chinese will turn very easy just like coding…
You see a language will be popular when the supporting country turn strong and economical influacial so although english my be the leading language for importance the next 50 year more, but I can see huge potential for Chinese , Spanish (becoz of the combine latin America and spain) and portuguess (becoz of brasil and similarity with Spanish).
March 8th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
346. jin feng
A ‘Romance’ Language is any language with its roots in Latin – not languages that sound romantic
March 12th, 2009 at 4:58 am
Im from venezuela and im pretty sure i dont speak portuguese..
March 12th, 2009 at 5:39 am
348. whaa? : It doesn’t say all Venezuelans speak Portuguese, it just states that some of them do…
March 13th, 2009 at 6:07 am
selamat pagi is actually good morning….
March 13th, 2009 at 6:29 am
350. Jaz_3 : Wow, you’re a bright one. I’m suprised no one else picked up on the fact that this list used Salamat Pagi instead of…. Hey, wait, what’s hello in Indonesian?
March 16th, 2009 at 4:38 am
Great List…except..the Bangla fact..in bangladesh..ppl don’t say “EYE-jay” for Hello..If you translate “EYE-jay” into english..its gonna be “Hey You!!”..Surely thats not the way to greet in Bangladesh…
March 18th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
I am doing a research about the importance of Portuguese to my country’s development and I saw this website…
I was really pleased with the information I found, but I am really sorry to tell you that “Hello” it is not “Bom Dia” in Portuguese.
“Hello” is “Olá” written in a different way but said like the Spanish word. “Bom dia” is “Good Morning”.
We also have “Oi” [ôe] which is a more informal way to say “Hello”.
Hope I have helped to increase the knownledge of one of the oldest language in the world.
March 23rd, 2009 at 2:33 am
french a dead language? nay chance, lol it cant be dead if i had to learn it for 3 years
March 25th, 2009 at 4:43 am
I’m portuguese therefore i speak the language
, i also speak english, french and spanish, but i have to say the most beautifull language i ever came across is the one i’m learning know: ITALIAN
«ciao ragazzi»
March 26th, 2009 at 4:35 am
“I’m portuguese therefore i speak the language
, i also speak english, french and spanish, but i have to say the most beautifull language i ever came across is the one i’m learning know: ITALIAN «ciao ragazzi»”
What you know languages are all Latin’s Languages or Old Rome Languages,not other languages from East Asia,like Chinese,Japanese,Vietnamese and Korean.So ,you cannot understand Rome’languages are less beauty than Chinese and so on…
March 26th, 2009 at 4:57 am
i love Chinese !!! English French Spanish UGLY Languages,too Ugly to speak and look,Chinese is the most beautiful language in the world ,Hanzi have 5000 years history !!!
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f2972610o1p0.html
March 26th, 2009 at 5:34 am
Nice opinion – most say that italian or french is the most beautiful language in the world. I would argue that the Roman alphabet is more useful than chinese characters – 26 letters. And that is it.
Personally I find welsh to be one of the most beautiful languages in the world – particularly to sing in. But then I AM heavily biased
Ah diversity – the lifeblood of LV
March 26th, 2009 at 5:38 am
360. cymraegbachgen87 : Welsh? I’m Australian with – very – distant Welsh roots, I must try and remember not to mention that around the Pommy gap students. The English aren’t particularly fond of Wales
P.S. Zeppelin III – Written and recorded in Wales, *drools* what an album O.O
March 26th, 2009 at 5:45 am
Twll dyn pob saes!
The welsh/scottish/irish vs english thing is usually quite light hearted and well meant. Except during sporting occasions of course!
Basically they arent fond of us because they are jealous – its a terrible thing. “It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock/The meat it feeds on”
March 26th, 2009 at 5:46 am
Mark – I’m surprised it has taken THIS long for you to figure out that I’m not English!
March 26th, 2009 at 5:49 am
362. cymraegbachgen87 : Yeah, sporting events and when some stupid IRA member decides it’ll be good fun to blow some civilians up
363. cymraegbachgen87 : I guess my post was worded poorly. I have seen my ancestor’s tongue written before and I recognized it written in some of your posts. I just needed a way to start the comment
March 26th, 2009 at 5:56 am
IRA? How ’90s is that!? But I am NOT going to get drawn into that again
*suffers painful flashback*
March 26th, 2009 at 5:59 am
365. cymraegbachgen87 : Luckily, some of us weren’t in a fit state to witness such things – starting grade 1 in ‘99 – not to mention proximity would be an issue for me
March 26th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Twas my GCSE History project in 2002/3!
….no….not AGAIN!!!
*rambo-style flashback*
March 26th, 2009 at 9:07 am
360. cym: “the green-eyed monster”
****
Yes. That would be me. Green eyes. Auburn hair, thick thick thick, and worn long, hanging to my waist. Fair skin with a tendency to freckle. Tall, with long arms and legs.
My ancestors (pre 1700’s) have to come from somewhere in your part of the world. *Which* part is the question.
We know some came from Ireland, but where did the rest come from? Clueless.
March 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Monster!?
segue you are anything but!
Well…maybe a little
March 26th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Haha, cym, thank you, actually.
You have noted my inability to suffer fools gladly, that is the monster in me of which I speak. The temperament, handed down from the likes of Thomas Dylan, George Eliot?
My own surname is Welsh (paternally)my mum’s family originated in Ireland.
Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.
My major hunger, from first memory onward, has been for knowledge. I have fed that hunger incessantly, and am only depressed by the fact that I can’t live long enough to learn everything I want to learn, let alone everything there *is* to learn!
So, yes, the mentally lazy annoy me no end. Out comes my Monster. “The wrath of segue”.
I should try to be nicer.
March 26th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
«What you know languages are all Latin’s Languages or Old Rome Languages,not other languages from East Asia,like Chinese,Japanese,Vietnamese and Korean.So ,you cannot understand Rome’languages are less beauty than Chinese and so on…»
, but italian as a musicality to it that makes it a real plesure to speak it not just hear it. I give u an example, when i have to speak spanish for many hours in a row it gives me an headache, with italin it just gives me joy
fika bene fika sano ciao
First of all you have a very poor english, it’s a little hard to understand… Let me just say that english has many latin influences but is not a latin laguange, all the others are. Another thing is that i really can’t speak chinese or korean, but i’ve heard chinese people speak many many times, i took some lessons of korean and i have a close japanese friend. So when i say italian is the most beautifull language i’ve ever come across it’s because i’ve came across many different languages
From the eastern asian laguages u refer i have to say japanese is the one i like the most, it as really something cool about it, maybe it’s the second most beautifull language
March 26th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
oh my goodness. if what she wrote for hello directly translates into “good morning” for a language that doesn’t really have a word for hello, I’m guessing that she might have done it on purpose.
really good entry by the way!
I love english.
March 29th, 2009 at 7:26 am
FOR:siulraiuga March 26th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
you said: you really can’t speak chinese
you said: italian is the most beautiful language???Hi guy!you just know several languages!!! There is more 5000 languages in the world,you must be joking!!!haha…
you havenot a little rational??? however, i know, many european i have met like you ,in my opinion, america & european are the same people, NO MIND!!!
Uncomfortable i feel when i heard the italian for the first time,LET ME TELL YOU :There is no the most beautiful language
in the world!
european languages are just a play!
English has more 1 million words now,and have more words with time, english will be dead with other european languages
if you know more info aboat Chinese,you will believe in me!
Chinese has more 5000 years history on the planet!
in Chinese you only know more 3000 hanzi ,you can express any info ,esp professional info,but for european languages you must know more 30000WORDS ,you can read the NEW YORK TIME
if you understand Chinese,you can read Literary works aboat 3000 years ago,but Euro Langs cannot !!!
english frech german spanish and other ELs are the same languages for me ,when USA go to Decline,all western languages will became history on this planet!!!
March 29th, 2009 at 7:34 am
FOR:siulraiuga March 26th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
you can see:
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f2972610o1p0.html
March 29th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
I thought Chines was the most spoken language in the world, because they are the most populated country in the world, that simply means there’re half of the worlds population. How comes about Mandarin
March 30th, 2009 at 12:49 am
to my asian(chinese?) friends: LOL. Hey man were talking about languages here, so i just said i believe italian to be a very beautifull language, to speeak, to hear, etc. Now u’re babling about about europeans and americans being the same, about the superiority of the chinese people, etc. Well i’m sure you’re very powerfull
and desire the decline of the US and the West for some reason, but man i’m from Portugal and there’s only 10 millions of us living in this beatifull country, which only means that against 1 billion chinese, we only have to shot 1000 bullets each and you’re all done
Just remenber when your ancestors where eating rice and already had boats the size of a modern cruise ship, mine cross two oceans, went halfway across the world in tiny wooden ships, without any maps, without knowning what would they find and reached, guess what, China
. And that my friend takes something that 5000 years of history and 1 billion people can’t give you: BALLS THE SIZE LITLLE CHINESE PEOPLE’S HEADS. (let me just add that chinese people living in Portugal are usually very nice people, but then again most of them are from Macau, wich belong to Portugal by the way, given by the Emperor of China to Portugal, not conquered, not colonised, offered, just because we’re so nice
Stay cool and let you’re nationalism behind, that causes WAR. PEACE OUT
Long life to the People’s Republic
April 4th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
For an american, I find French more beautiful than English. Nothing personal.
April 5th, 2009 at 5:33 am
So, in portuguese we say “Bom dia” to say hello…
In Malay, that means “bomb him/her”!
LOL
April 7th, 2009 at 7:04 am
even english didn’t make it to the top
still,it considered as an official language in the world
it used especially in business agreement.
April 8th, 2009 at 3:38 am
i am happy to make hindi is third on the languages list . i am hindi language speaker but i want to learn the top ten languages of world like mandrin. thanks
surender_sonu1981@yahoo.com
April 8th, 2009 at 5:45 am
FOR:siulraiuga
01:As we known,ELs are all the phonetic symbol,but Chinese is Ideographic,you only need several words so that express lots of info! In this point,english needs many words to writting !
02:European killed lots of Civilians in Asia,Africa,Latin America and North America from 1500AD to now,raped lots of girls and women around the world,however, Chinese people didnot like you!When China was the strongest great power in the world,WE Chinese,didnot kill one foreigners!In fact,European are Barbarians,you have no human right!!!
you think you are God,in fact,you are killer!you hate peace,you like war!Hiter kill millions of Jewish,Spanish killed many many Indina in America,including children and old,raped girls and women!!!Animals!!!
03:I love peace,and Chinese love peace,too.but you arenot!!!you are inveracious!!!
04:you can see:
http://v.youku.com/v_playlist/f1532638o1p9.html
April 8th, 2009 at 5:57 am
NATO & American are killing Iraqis in middle east now!
They are often raped gils and women ,and killed them next!
Animals!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 5:58 am
This is your human right??? NO,YOU ARE KILLER!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 6:18 am
ZhongGuo,
Do calm down…there’s a good chap. I really wouldn’t start saying on Human rights violoations/atrocities with Chinas record on this issue. Many of my uni friends who are from the region (not china but places like taiwan) hate the chinese government for their abuses against other countries in the region.
Stop swallowing government propaganda BS and make up your OWN mind.
“Chinese love peace” Right. Ok. Then tell me why a girl in an English as a Foreign Language lecture was hit by a glass bottle thrown by a Chinese student, all for making an argument that Taiwan was NOT part of China?
Do I NEED to mention Tibet?
China is NOT ‘holier than thou’ It is just as aggressive and amoral as the rest of the world – and that is being generous. All information into china is vetted and screened by the government. You have your own version of google so you cannot access western news sources!
Wake up and grow up idiot.
April 8th, 2009 at 6:20 am
My point is made by the fact you have had to use a chinese video engine. I could throw up hundreds of vids from Youtube – the western engine of choice.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Additionally – you are making it sound as if this violence is a Western phenomena:
“European are Barbarians,you have no human right!”
Have you forgotten the horrors Japan enacted against China in the second world war? Rape and murder of women and children. Defenceless men slaughtered in their beds.
Check your history you ignorent ass
April 8th, 2009 at 7:09 am
Cym, you didn’t mention a number of human rights issues exposed to the world prior and during the Beijing Olympics – excluding issues with Taiwan and Tibet. That’s right, ZhongGuo…I named them both separate from China.
China is not perfect. I doubt any nation is.
“Spanish killed many many Indina in America,including children and old,raped girls and women!!!Animals!!!”
And stop calling them Indians. I can’t speak for every individual Native American but the Native American proffesors from my university as well as a few cultural activists within the area are strongly against using that term to describe them.
Was “Animals!!!” a new line of thought or a continuation of the sentence describing what they raped? Given your second post, I think it’s a new line of “thought” but it looks funnier the way I see it.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:36 am
cymraegbachgen87
you must be a Nazi!!!or you havenot a pity for human being!you think western news are all right???haha…
Hey,guy,go to hell!!!Animals!!!Where are you from?tell me!!!quick!!!
european killed lots of people around the world from 1500AD to now,you think this is normal???this is your human right???NO , you are KILLER!!!ANIMALS!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 7:39 am
lol does anyone agree on getting him banned? zhongGou? i would , there hasnt been any trolls on this site for ages yet.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:42 am
haha…some trollz are funnier than others…
“european killed lots of people around the world from 1500AD”
I’d like to attend his history lectures! Peace, love and happiness prior to 1500 AD. Wonder what they did to pass the time back then…
I’d like it if you cleaned out your keyboard, please. The question mark and exclamation mark buttons appear to be sticking.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:43 am
387. chapman
oh no no no, there have been a number of them – one of which is now placed under heavy moderation. But I think the move to ban him or not really rests on cym since he’s the one specifically being attacked.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:50 am
FOR:gabi319 – April 8th, 2009 at 7:09 am
where are you from???tell me !!!
your country is perfect???
Taiwan and Xizang are parts of China!!!There are Chinese,not western!
April 8th, 2009 at 7:53 am
for:gabi319
my E-mail:
colineliu@163.com
tell me your email!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 7:56 am
*sigh…*
as quoted from my 385
“China is not perfect. I doubt any nation is.”
shall I repeat myself three times to answer each individual question mark?
Cym, this is really your argument. Hope you get back soon because I have only a limited amount of time before I head to the gym.
April 8th, 2009 at 7:57 am
eww, stop hitting on me, ZhongGou
April 8th, 2009 at 8:00 am
haha, I should clarify comment 393. You see, I view exchanging email as getting to “second base” via internet. ZhongGou hasn’t even made it out of the dugout.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:15 am
FOR:cymraegbachgen87
my E-mail:
colineliu@163.com
tell me your email!!!
April 8th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Wow…I was following this conversation here. Someone is a little demanding with personal information.
NO country is perfect. None. All have horrors and atrocities that they have committed and continue to commit. No one is better than others. On the other hand, each country has their good points as well. I feel we should focus on fixing the issues and promote the good values we have to share.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:30 am
rofl. this guy makes me laugh, im not even insulted one bit by him, just letting him rant and rave all he wasnts
.
oh and yea i do think english is the official language
.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:33 am
396. oouchan – “NO country is perfect. None. All have horrors and atrocities that they have committed and continue to commit. No one is better than others.”
Well there’s a point I beg to differ. From World Desk Reference:
Antarctica
Crime
Total prison population: There are no prisons in Antarctica
Crime trend: Crime is negligible
Each person in Antarctica is subject to their national laws. Occasional petty theft from stations is linked to visits from tourists.
Of course, now I’ve opened the debate for country vs. continent, however…….I’m a smartass, I know…
April 8th, 2009 at 8:36 am
397. chapman
I suppose cym is the second choice, haha. Poor cym…always the bridesmaid and never the bride, haha. At least I hope not either
You like how I likened his (unless I’m mistaken Guo is a male name) demanding of my email as hitting on me and he turns around and tries the same moves on cymraeg?
April 8th, 2009 at 8:37 am
395 – sorry. I don’t give my email address to crazy people.
“Taiwan and Xizang are parts of China!!!There are Chinese,not western!”
Not according to the native people who live there. This sums up my argument. You are extremely polite and nice people in some respects, highly arrogant and aggressive in others.
Back down, kid. You won’t beat me in this one.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:38 am
gabi lets not start that again!
April 8th, 2009 at 8:38 am
398. gabi319: Ok..seriously…does anyone really live there? Its a block of ice.
I always thought it would be nice if that is where we put prisoners. If they escape…it won’t take long to find their frozen remains.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:40 am
yea true lol, maybe he’ll try it me ^^ il be more popular then
April 8th, 2009 at 8:40 am
“where are you from???tell me !!!
your country is perfect???”
I’m from the most perfect country in the world. Jfrater’s republic of Listverse.
Now learn to behave on this site and treat us regulars with the respect we treat others. Or we might get nasty
(fear the wrath of cyn, gabi and segue!)
April 8th, 2009 at 8:42 am
“Taiwan and Xizang are parts of China!!!There are Chinese,not western!”
Sorry for the string of posts!
Does that statement justify the treatment of the dalai lama? or the treatment of the girl I mentioned in the lecture above?
Even if your statement were true, the defence of that statement by ordinary chinese people violates others human rights. That girl had to have stiches. Fortunately the chinese bloke who threw the bottle got chucked out of the university and sent home.
Score one for democracy!
April 8th, 2009 at 8:55 am
402. oouchan
Oh oouchan, you know how unproven generalizations and assumptions drive me crazy… but at least it’s a weak argument on account of the opposition
Yes, there are people “living” there somewhere between 1000-1500 “residents” and two babies were born within the past year. Of course, these are essentially colonies so their nationality is dependent upon which slice of ice they were born upon.
403. chapman – yea true lol, maybe he’ll try it me ^^ il be more popular then
If you two hit it off, I warn you now, I won’t partake in a double date with you two.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:22 am
“european killed lots of people around the world from 1500AD to now,you think this is normal”
Question. What is so special about 1500AD. Europeans were slaughtering each other centuries before that. The First Crusade was launched in 1095 by Pope Urban II. The Romans were killing people long before then, the mesopatamians, syrians and greeks long before the romans.
What this idiot doesn’t understand is that, arguably, the most destructive force the world saw up until the British Empire was the Genghis Khans army. Not chinese I know, but still eastern in origin. These guys obliterated the Romans and marched across europe raping, burning, pillaging and murdering. Indeed, in the sacking of Nishapur, most of its estimated 1,748,000 inhabitants were killed, then beheaded, and then their skulls made into pyramids. The army supposedly even slaughtered the dogs and cats of the city.
That is barbaric. Europeans are not the only ones who commit atrocities, but we have left them in the past – mostly. China’s human rights abuses continue to this day.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:44 am
cym
Good. You included the ANIMALS ! ! !
I should stop before I do get nasty, though…
April 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
How ignorant do you have to be to think that there’s no other language as versatile as English.
In fact the possibility of chaining as many nouns as you wish to create new compounds in German makes it a very productive language. By the way, English and German (and other Germanic languages) have very much in common. Read the Old Saxon epic Beowulf (there’s a brilliant verse translation by Seamus Heaney) and you would be surprised how similar it is to Old Low German, and even to modern German.
English may have, for example, an easier declination system or a very small (almost nonexistent, compared to German) amount of irregular verbs but learning all those English idioms, idiomatic expressions or use of tenses makes it also hard to learn, if you want to speak at a higher level than some kind of pidgin.
The beauty of a language is completely in the eye of the beholder.
Anybody saying his or her own language/country is best is ignorant.
If you think English is more beautiful than, say, German then you haven’t read any German literature or poetry. There’s only one Shakespeare but there’s only one Wilhelm Busch, Goethe, Schiller or Walther von der Vogelweide.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
I love german. Great language to be angry in
.
IMO, it just doesnt flow as smoothly as french or italian, or have the poetic lilt of the celtic languages. I think german is a harsh language.
Authors can be translated, so I don’t think that adds any credence to your point.
Besides, shakespeare is best read in the original Klingon
Yes. I’m a star trek geek.
April 9th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
English, on the other hand, is boring. It has been exported round the world through conquest, and that is the only reason it is so well used. It is hard to learn too!
April 11th, 2009 at 4:08 am
I love Chinese, I am from Brazil!
April 11th, 2009 at 4:13 am
english has lots of word,you must spent much time to learn new words!
you cannot learn all english words in your lifetime,because it has more 1,000,000 words!
April 11th, 2009 at 4:19 am
I am from France.
i am learning Chinese,i love it,i only need to learn 3500words, 3500words can express any info!
I LOVE CHINESE!
April 11th, 2009 at 4:35 am
I’m from Italy.I can speak Chinese. It’s very ancient language differ from abcde.. like language becoz you can discover a lot of new secret and myth about language for me is more romantic and poetical than any ABCDE.. language. Chinese use symbol to represent a word then just make combination of them you can manage Chinese using 3,000 of these symbol sound difficult right, but is easy in grammar there are no past present future for verb (Spanish will make you sick with this case ) . if you can memorized those character then chinese will turn very easy just like coding…
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April 12th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Wow ! i got a very good list:
because i am interested in Spanish, which is on number 4th , and 3rd Hindi which I already know.
My next post will be in Spanish.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
#7 – “To say “hello” in Bengali, say “Ei Je” (EYE-jay)” – where on earth did you hear that??? There isn’t a “hello” in Bengali. Bengalis greet by saying “kemon ache?” (how are you) or more religious-based like “asalawalaikum” (Muslim) or “namaskar” (Hindu) which, by the way, does not mean “hello” (re:#3).
There are different dialects of Bengali and the formal proper Bengali language is the dialect spoken in Dhaka, Bangladesh and possibly Kolkata, India – “Ei Je” is a word in formal Bengali and possibly not a word in Bengali at all.
April 13th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Jambo. U hali ganna. (bad swahili. have forgotten proper spelling) Hello. How are you?
April 14th, 2009 at 5:06 am
i surender very happy to see this list of languages. i am from india & i’m happy to know that hindi is third most spoken language in the world. i also known russain, spanish, english , punjabi languages. i want to learn all the top other lanuages of world like mandrin, german, italian, portueges & other all languages.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
to those who say English is hard to learn, that depends on your mother tongue. If it’s Spanish then it’s not that hard. English seems a very simplified language for us to learn.
Chinese? chinese is hard for almost all of occidental natives ;D
German is a hard one too, at least for spanish speakers!
Also, I have to point out that Spanish varies A LOT from country to country. One word that is perfectly polite in one country has the most offensive meaning in other.
So be careful and try to enrich your learning experience of Spanish by learning words from other spanish speaking country!
April 14th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
For:Misha
English is easy to learn for easter people???For China,Japan,Korean and other countries in Asia is very hard too.you must learn english in asia,OR you havenot a good job in your country,SO,in the western you must learn Chinese,OR you will lost many good Opportunities!!!
in many cases,you must learn a foreign language now,OR you havenot Competitiveness!!!
i am from Thailand
April 14th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
I am learning Chinese and English,in my opinion,Chinese you only need learn 3500words,but English you must learn 30000words,or you feel difficult to read newspaper, i feel Chinese words 3500words you can read any info ,
so ,i think Chinese is more useful than English, if you donot believe in me you can try to learn Chinese,you will believe in me !
April 21st, 2009 at 8:03 am
Portugal became an independent kingdom in 1139. Afonso Henriques was the first King of Portugal. However Alfonso VII, King of Castile-León only recognized the independence in 1143.
Portugal did not won its independence from Spain.
Spain exists since 1469, when kingdoms of Castile and Aragon were united by the marriage of Isabella and Ferdinand.
Portuguese is an official language in Angola, Brazil, Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, Portugal, São Tomé and Príncipe, Mozambique, Equatorial Guinea, Macau and East Timor.
Number of native speakers = more than 210million
The number on this page are probably from the 80´s… both portuguese and french have a lot more native speakers…
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 am
You jack ass English is the top language of the world! Every foreign country has English as the top foreign language class and anyone who says different is a terrorist!
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:52 am
and for the record in English we don’t greet each other by saying “what up freak” we say fuck you!
April 22nd, 2009 at 7:06 pm
I am a Bengali, and im pretty sure Ei Je has never been used. There isn’t even an “I” sound in the language! Overall, it’s pretty good.
April 23rd, 2009 at 7:59 am
Hey Blade are you related to that black kid from south park that lives in Africa and makes them wierd noises when ya talk?
English is the supreme language! English is the top language used in all business trades!!!!