12 Facts About Star Wars You Probably Don’t Know
- Published September 11, 2009 by Lyrebyrd - 178 Comments
It turned out that there was a little confusion over the submission rules for lists here and this was originally submitted as a copy from a non-open-source book. Therefore we have had to remove the original list (sent in by aprilweather) and replace it with one that was put together in the comments by Lyrebyrd (many thanks and I hope you don’t object!). The original intro is intact but the remainder of the list (with the exception of the order) has changed.
In July 1973, George Lucas was an unknown director working on a low budget 1960s nostalgia film called “American Graffiti”. He approached Universal studios to see if they were interested in a film called, “Star Wars”. Universal turned him down in one of the biggest mistakes ever made by a studio.
While Lucas was influenced by the huge number of “Buck Rogers” reruns he watched while developing Star Wars, a much bigger influence comes from work of Akira Kurosawa. Much influence comes from the film, Hidden Fortress, as well as many of the characters from Seven Samurai. Just about every character Toshiro Mifune plays is Han Solo, and check out the little Yoda-looking dude!
Lots of unknown actors were used for the younger characters. In addition to Carrie Fisher, Sissy Spacek and Cindy Williams also auditioned for Leia. The film, “Carrie” was also auditioning, and both Fisher and Spacek auditioned for both. Imagine that flip-flop, or having “Shirley” from Laverne and Shirley as Leia!
John Dykstra and the FX team invented a great deal of technology including the now vastly used, motion-control camera to match motion of object to camera. Also used were traditional stop motion techniques, as well as rotoscoping (using mattes). In particular, if you have an old copy of the film on VHS, you can see the traveling mattes around the ships.
Not only was the studio unsure about the film, most of the cast was thrown by the strange dialogue and story, often leading to tension or awkwardness while filming. (Leia half-british, half-american accent!) No one had any inkling it would be such a smash hit.
In addition to the name change from Luke Starkiller, in earlier drafts of the script, there are the characters of Biggs and Camie, Luke’s friends who have gone to the Academy. In the film, Biggs is one of the rebel pilots in the end sequence.
After the trilogy came out, and years before Parts 1-3, there was an allegedly accurate treatment for what the next film would be, floating around. It detailed how Vader became Vader, as well as the events leading up to “A New Hope”. One of the minor elements, was the “13 year old Correllian Cabin Boy” on Captain Antilles’ ship. This alluded to Han Solo being there before the events of “A New Hope”, which luckily did not get included in the new films, as it really wouldn’t have made sense. Too much coincidence – does everyone have to know everyone?
Not only did they force Carried Fisher to strap down her boobs, poor thing, just look at her dress. Every inch of skin is covered, and they couldn’t have made her look more frumpy. However, she does get to show a bit of skin in the last sequence, which is the outfit used for the representation of Leia in the original poster – scoop neck, not turtleneck.
While unknowns were used for the leads, Lucas was able to get some of his faves and also heavier hitters/character actors in there in the roles of Obi-Wan (Guinness), and Tarkin (Peter Cushing). This continued in the new films with the always classically cheesy Christopher Lee, as Dooku.
David Prowse, a weightlifter from Bristol, played the role on screen but the voice was that of James Earl Jones. He was so convinced the film would be a flop, he refused to allow his name in the original credits.
Lucas got the idea for Chewbacca one morning in the early ’70s while watching his wife, Marcia, drive off in her car. She had their Alaskan malamute, Indiana, (the name sake for Indiana Jones) with her. Lucas liked the way the large shaggy dog looked in the passenger seat so he decided to create a character in the film that was a cross between Indiana, a bear, and a monkey.
Both Anthony Daniels and Kenny Baker, the actors that play Threepio and Artoo, respectively, had issues with the head in Tunisia. Although they piped in cool air and kept them hydrated, Daniels in particular frequently passed out from heat stroke in the outfit. Also, while both actors have come back to continue their roles, Baker is much more private and less comforatable with the fame, fan mania, etc. While, Daniels, has embraced more of the fandom, even appearing in a cameo, without the gold suit, in Ep. 2.
Due to the limited budget the American cast members and crew (including George Lucas) all decided to fly coach class to England, rather than first class. When Carrie Fisher’s mother Debbie Reynolds heard about this she called George Lucas, complaining about how insulting it was for her daughter to be flying coach. Carrie Fisher was in the room with George Lucas when he took the call, and after a few minutes asked if she could talk to her mother. When George Lucas handed her the phone she simply said, “Mother, I want to fly coach, will you fuck off?!” and hung up. [IMDB]

























September 11th, 2009 at 1:33 am
David Prowse is from Bristol – not Wales. He also played the “Green Cross Man” in the 1970s.
September 11th, 2009 at 1:34 am
i love George Lucas idea during that time!
September 11th, 2009 at 1:35 am
cool list
September 11th, 2009 at 1:35 am
Great list man – really interesting ( “,)
September 11th, 2009 at 1:40 am
Good list
September 11th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Great list! You can’t beat Star Wars.
September 11th, 2009 at 1:43 am
as far as Han Solo goes, didn’t Christopher Walken read for the part? just imagine Walken sitting in that cantina with Greedo lol
September 11th, 2009 at 2:18 am
My dad is a big Star Wars fan, he wanted to call me Leia but my mother said no. Can you imagine how many nerds would be worshipping me right now if he’d gotten his way?
September 11th, 2009 at 2:27 am
@totalstranger (7): okay that would be so fucking awesome!
September 11th, 2009 at 2:37 am
this list is word for word ripped off from the uncle johns bathroom reader. BOOOOOOOO
September 11th, 2009 at 2:52 am
Ewoks speak Tagalog. “Ayun ang maganda!” LOLs.
September 11th, 2009 at 2:57 am
Knew a lot of these, but still awesome!
September 11th, 2009 at 3:25 am
Be sure to check out the short film (8 minutes) George Lucas in Love
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5058529870025933880#
September 11th, 2009 at 3:29 am
Fascinating list.
However, David Prowse is English, not Welsh. He was born in Bristol (near Wales) and his accent is distinctively West-Country.
September 11th, 2009 at 3:37 am
wow, west country darth vader – terrifying!!
September 11th, 2009 at 3:44 am
I didnt read the list coz i dont wanna know,, ”then why the #$*@ did you comment?” u might ask,, well i just wanted to say —————–GEEK ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!—————–
for all the cool ppl who might accidentially stumble upon this.
September 11th, 2009 at 3:45 am
You can also see Prowse in the original BBC televised serial of “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”. He plays Hotblack Desiato’s bodyguard.
September 11th, 2009 at 3:48 am
The Buck Rogers photo should have been of the great Buster Crabbe, also the original Flash Gordon!
September 11th, 2009 at 3:49 am
10 isn’t true. I remember seeing a behind-the-scenes documentary that showed the Millennium Falcon being mechanically moved into the Death Star hangar and models of X-Wings crashing into the Death Star’s surface during the attack at the end.
September 11th, 2009 at 3:53 am
Knew everthing on this list
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September 11th, 2009 at 3:58 am
@sayhuh78 (10):
THANK YOU! I remember reading all this somewhere else and I was going to comment on it. (I was thinking imdb)
I don’t like this lazy second facts lits
September 11th, 2009 at 4:03 am
@IceKeyHunter (19): Yeah I’ve also seen the documentary. Some ships definitely moved during filming.
I remember that in one scene they placed a rebel ship on a wire with a small explosive on it and let it slide until it exploded. Laser effects were added later.
September 11th, 2009 at 4:12 am
Knew these so didn’t learn anything new today. Also the corrections needed have already been mentioned in the comments. Interesting list either way. I would only recommend expanding a bit on write up for each.
For christmas last year, I got a friend a box kit of old Star Wars items. It came with a book that had a whole bunch of interesting info about the film, what went on during the shooting and the fame the movie got. The best picture, was of opening day where the crowds were so thick it shut down a major street in LA.
September 11th, 2009 at 4:21 am
Re: “American Graffiti”: Always loved the license plate on Millner’s ‘32 coupe: “THX138″! All you “Lucas Geeks” should check out “THX1138″!
September 11th, 2009 at 4:44 am
It was a very interesting list. Even if I don’t like star wars much myself. I like Indiana jones better.
September 11th, 2009 at 4:49 am
apepper and dave rattigan – right on guys – dave prowse is indeed English: he has also been both the Frankenstein Monster (three times), in Doctor Who, a strongman in Vampire Circus (with Lalla Ward – probably the cutest and sexiest Dr.Who assistant of all) as well as a part in Clockwork Orange
September 11th, 2009 at 5:04 am
I saw a segment on tv about Darth Vader. They were talking about how they were deciding how his voice should sound. I saw footage of Darth Vader speaking in a normal voice. It was weird. Adding the breathing effect they did and in a very low voice was genius. When I compared there was no contest. Vader was not very menacing with normal speech.
Harrison Ford went to college in my hometown. He was kicked out just before he graduated for bad behavior. They’ve asked him to come back and be a keynote speaker many times but he always refuses.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:18 am
@ Jfrater
have much to drink this mourning? your profanity is out of character, reading your comment made me laugh.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:28 am
Lucas got just as much, probably more, from Akira Kurosawa as he did Buck Rogers. Star Wars is (by his own admission) a retelling of ‘The Hidden Fortress’, and C3P0 and R2D2 are retellings of the two main comedy foils in it. The Laurel and Hardy thing is usually just an explanation for the people who don’t know Kurosawa- his works have had major influence on Lucas (and many many others).
September 11th, 2009 at 5:35 am
AWESOME LIST! i didnt know any of these
September 11th, 2009 at 5:39 am
your darth vader facts are all wrong. as others have said the man who played vader was from bristol NOT wales and also he HATED playing vader. he said the suit was horrible, he was badly paid and treated and it was the worst time of his life
September 11th, 2009 at 5:40 am
Great list. Princess Leia is a babe.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:41 am
@ robfl
@jfrater
It made me laugh, too! I’m proud of you, J
This site has beeen a favorite of mine for 6 months or so. I discovered it in the middle of the night (chronic insomnia) and I pretty routinely fall asleep reading lists and comments.
I’m a musician/songwriter and have gotten several song ideas from lists, too. (usually the darker-themed)
Anyway- I’m pleased that my first comment is (long overdue) in response to a badass star wars list.
<3 k
September 11th, 2009 at 5:50 am
@ Jfrater,
10 and 21 are correct. this list is a complete rip off of uncle john’s bathroom reader. It should probably be taken down.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:55 am
Knew most of them, but still an interisting list – Thanks.
@Jfrater(9) not a bit like you sir, feeling OK this morning ?
September 11th, 2009 at 5:59 am
As for #4, I had read/seen somewhere that James Earl Jones was cast as the voice of Vader during post-production, when Lucas had the realization that there was no one of color actually in the film; so, in effect, Jones was his “token black” performer. This is also why he made certain to cast another black man–Billy Dee Williams–in the part of Lando Calrissian in the sequels.
Also, regarding #3, I read during the media blitz for the recent “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull,” that during development of the character for the first film, Lucas and Spielberg wanted something along the lines of an all-American, kitschy–even corny or “square”–name for protagonist, and “Indiana” was the one ultimately decided upon. I don’t know which story is closer to the truth, though.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:23 am
I didnt know any of these at all. I got a homy whos still down with star wars im goin dazzle him with newfound knowledge.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Cool list. Oh, Harrison Ford… what a beautiful man!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Um… can you say plagiarism? I knew you could.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:40 am
10, 21 and 34-glad to see fellow Uncle John fans. I kept reading hoping I was mistaken. I have no problem with sharing knowledge, but at least give credit where it is due. The Uncle John Bathroom Readers are my favorite source for trivia. (besides Listverse, naturally)
September 11th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Yes, deepthinker (#38), he most certainly was, at least back in the day. Hasn’t aged all that well for a major Hollywood star, though. But maybe my expectations are too high these days.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Finally, a good list.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Some more star wars trivia
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/yakface/facts.html
September 11th, 2009 at 7:01 am
I did have a vague Bathroom Reader spidey sense but wasn’t completely certain because I skimmed through this part when browsing through books. Finally did find the text online and although there’s a lot more facts in the original, this one pretty much took certain paragraphs word for word straight from the original Bathroom Reader article.
http://www.neatorama.com/2008/06/12/no-jiggling-in-the-empire-fun-facts-about-star-wars/
September 11th, 2009 at 7:10 am
@gabi319 (44): Many of the lists on this website takes the information straight from another website. (word for word). Especially Wikipedia. Almost everything is a copy and paste from Wikipedia. Hardly anything is original anymore.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Lucas got the idea for some of the main characters from Kurosawa’s “The Hidden Fortress” : C3PO, R2D2,Princess Leia,
Hans Solo. Ideas for the story as well.
I heard Lucas say it in the documentary for the film
September 11th, 2009 at 7:33 am
i’m in total agreement with the company’s board of directors, i always sleep soundly when star wars is on
September 11th, 2009 at 7:50 am
I like Star Wars but I have to say I´m not one of those die-hard fans. These facts were fun though, considering I had never heard of them. Now I´m thinking I should watch the original trilogy again…
September 11th, 2009 at 8:13 am
@someone else (45):
From the submission page of LV:
You can include text quoted from Wikipedia or other open source documents, but please tell me if you have done so in the additional comments field.
Note that LV lists copying information from Wiki have an open source licensing disclaimer at the bottom of their lists. Wiki’s a community-edited website so the information belongs to everyone even though it is placed under the Wikipedia name (“all users…are required to grant broad permissions to the general public to re-distribute and re-use their contributions freely”). Uncle John’s Bathroom Reader is a published book (well, technically a series of books but according to Neatorama, this list in particular is from The Best of…) and violates copyrights if used without permission from the Bathroom Reader organization. Neatorama has connections to them so they have the ability to publish it on their website, but even so, they’ve noted where it came from and that they received permission to post it up.
I know this isn’t a paying gig and I know it’s not for a thesis paper so items on many lists aren’t as original as they could be. Simply giving credit where credit belongs and doing good by Jamie because even if he didn’t write this particular list, it’s his website so it’s his ass on the line if it had been plagiarized from another source.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Definitely taken from Bathroom Reader. Here’s another site that published the same thing:
http://www.zimbio.com/Star+Wars/articles/78/Fun+Facts+About+Star+Wars
So, being the big old Star Wars geek that I am, I’ve come up with an additional 12. Now, I don’t have my Star Wars books/memorabilia here (in storage – I moved), so these are off the top of my head, but I’ve tried to keep them on the same theme as this list. Here we go.
12. Buck Rogers – lots of influences. Kurosawa is alreaady mentioned – mainly the film, Hidden Fortress, as well as many of the characters from Seven Samurai. Just about every character Toshiro Mifune plays is Han Solo, and check out the little Yoda-looking dude!
11. Unknown cast – Lots of unknowns for the younger characters. In addition to Carrie Fisher, Sissy Spacek and Cindy Williams also auditioned for Leia. The film, “Carrie” was also auditioning, and both Fisher and Spacek auditioned for both. Imagine that flip-flop, or having “Shirley” from Laverne and Shirley as Leia!
10. Motionless Models – John Dykstra and the FX team invented a great deal of technology including the now vastly used, motion-control camera to match motion of object to camera. Also used were traditional stop motion techniques, as well as rotoscoping (using mattes). In particular, if you have an old copy of the film on VHS, you can see the traveling mattes around the ships.
9. 20th Cent. Fox – Not only was the studio unsure, most of the cast was thrown by the strange dialogue and story, often leading to tension or awkwardness while filming. (Leia half-british, half-american accent!) No one had any inkling it would be such a smash hit.
8. Luke Skywalker – in addition to the name change, in earlier drafts of the script, there are the characters of Biggs and Camie, Luke’s friends who have gone to the Academy. In the film, Biggs is one of the rebel pilots in the end sequence.
7. Han Solo – After the trilogy came out, and years before Parts 1-3, there was an allegedly accurate treatment for what the next film would be, floating around. It detailed how Vader became Vader, as well as the events leading up to “A New Hope”. One of the minor elements, was the “13 year old Correllian Cabin Boy” on Captain Antilles’ ship. This alluded to Han Solo being there before the events of “A New Hope”, which luckily did not get included in the new films, as it really wouldn’t have made sense. Too much coincidence – does everyone have to know everyone???
6. Princess Leia – Not only did they strap them down, poor thing, just look at her dress. Every inch of skin is covered, and they couldn’t have made her look more frumpy. However, she does get to show a bit of skin in the last sequence, which is the outfit used for the representation of Leia in the original poster – scoop neck, not turtleneck.
5. Obi-Wan Kenobi – While unknowns were used for the leads, Lucas was able to get some of his faves and also heavier hitters/character actors in there in the roles of Obi-Wan (Guinness), and Tarkin (Peter Cushing). This continued in the new films with the always classically cheesy Christopher Lee, as Dooku.
4. Darth Vader – not only did Prowse take it very seriously – really method acting the role “becoming” Vader, as it were. However, James Earl Jones was so convinced the film would be a flop, he refused to allow his name in the original credits.
3. Chewbacca – The voice of Chewbacca isn’t a very talented voice actor, although I think that Jason Segel does a great job of mimicking. It is actually a composite of tigers, seals, bears and a few other things, by sound designer, Ben Burtt. Lucas wanted it to sound organic ie., like a real animal, but not be recognizable as anything in particular.
2 & 1. C3P0 and R2-D2 – combining these here. Both Anthony Daniels and Kenny Baker, the actors that play Threepio and Artoo, respectively, had issues with the head in Tunisia. Although they piped in cool air and kept them hydrated, Daniels in particular frequently passed out from heat stroke in the outfit. Also, while both actors have come back to continue their roles, Baker is much more private and less comforatable with the fame, fan mania, etc. While, Daniels, has embraced more of the fandom, even appearing in a cameo, without the gold suit, in Ep. 2.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:13 am
9 Jfrater
September 11th, 2009 at 2:27 am
@totalstranger (7): okay that would be so fucking awesome!
yeah I checked wiki, it’s true. I just keep imagining the Walken from King Of New York or True Romance doing Han. Ford made it better though cause the ladies like him
September 11th, 2009 at 8:16 am
did anyone mention that E.T. or his race of aliens were in Phantom Menace in the senate?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Your View: Should Gay Marriage Be Legal?
Your View: Are Ghosts Real?
Your View: Does God Exist?
Your View: Star Wars or Star Trek?
Let the lasers and phasers fly.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:26 am
I don’t know why but I laughed when I first read this part…
“Lucas got the idea for Chewbacca one morning in the early ’70s while watching his wife, Marcia, drive off in her car.”
September 11th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Yes
No
No
Lucas
September 11th, 2009 at 8:31 am
@gabi319 (49): @gabi319 (49): Give credit where credit is due? It doesn’t take much to copy and paste a list from another source. Even if it is an open source. I know JFrater has to make sure he doesn’t violate any copyright laws but according to you this list may have slipped past him.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Imagine how much it hurt when they took off that electrical tape from Carrie’s boobs. Ouch, that just makes my boobs hurt thinking about it.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Return of the Jedi was orignally called Revenge of the Jedi but Lucas thought that the word “Revenge” was a strong word and didn’t coincide with the beliefs of the Jedi.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:08 am
What a dumb list. I saw all three Star Wars movies and all these human characters don’t even appear in the movie.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Here’s some interesting info about connections between the animated film Wizards and Star Wars I learned from bonus material on the Wizards DVD.
George Lucas and Ralph Bakshi were friends and were prodcuing their respective movies at the same time for the same studio. Both ran out of money and went to the studio the same day to ask for additional funds. Both got them.
Wizrards was originally to have been called Wizard Wars, but the studio forced Bakshi to change his title for fear of confusion.
Wizards and Star Wars were released within two weeks of each. Wizards was doing well at the box office. It had already made back its money and was on its way to being a hit when Star Wars was released. Star Wars was such a monster the 20th Century Fox pulled Wizards from most markets in order to push Star Wars.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:28 am
@someone else (56):
It doesn’t take much to copy and paste a list from another source.
That’s your justification? It also doesn’t take much to the cite sources of who did the actual work. If a list I’ve submitted relies heavily on one source, I make sure to let Jamie know.
Even if it is an open source.
Uncle John’s Bathroom Reader is not.
according to you this list may have slipped past him.
I recall two occasions in which lists have been pulled for blatant plagiarism. Perhaps he’s been given permission to publish this text, but again, it certainly wasn’t aprilweather who wrote it. Why are you so keen on defending plagiarism?
September 11th, 2009 at 9:31 am
@Lyrebyrd (50): Thank you, your list is better AND it´s original.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Theodore (#59), you are aware that we’re talking about the original trilogy here, right? NOT the “prequel” trilolgy which began in 1999 and completed in 2005. You do realize that there were a total of six movies in the “Star Wars” saga, don’t you?
September 11th, 2009 at 9:37 am
It is completely wrong that no credit was given to the original source. Miss aprilweather, it’s not “by” you if it’s plagiarized.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:38 am
@ Theodore #59
I actually lol’d when I read that. It reminds me of so many of my friends.
I love this list, very interesting. Huge Star Wars fan here!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:42 am
On behalf of the VAST majority of the human population – F**K STARWARS!!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:43 am
@Theodore (59): I agree with JustSayin’ @ 63. You know there was more than those recent 3 right?
I had a co-worker try to tell me that the original ones were actually re-made into those new ones. I laughed in his face. When asked, I found out that he didn’t even see those first three. I told him it was the continuation of the story and that the new ones were what came before. People amaze me.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:45 am
@gabi319 (61): What do you mean my justification? justification for what? When did I ever defend plagiarism? Have you even read my comment? You are confusing me.
You said give credit where credit is due. I’m asking why? I’m not giving credit to the submitter of this list because it is simply copy and pasted.
I didn’t say the bathroom reader was an open source. You said that Wikipedia is an open source and it’s okay to take quotes from them. I think it’s lazy to copy word for word from any source, even if it comes from an open source (Wikipedia).
September 11th, 2009 at 9:46 am
I read somewhere that the final assualt on the Death Star scene where the rebel ships are zipping down the canyon with the laser turrets firing at them is a frame by frame copy of WW2 footage of an allied bombing run against a German dam.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Thanks to all who enjoyed my list-
September 11th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Nauplius-You’re correct-Lucas watched several WW2 movies when he was laying out the action parts.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Christopher Walken also would have shot first.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:03 am
i’ve read all these facts in uncle johns bathroom reader
September 11th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Christopher Walken would have been a bad choice for Han Solo
September 11th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Yes, I’m joking. I even saw the original in theaters (only once though! lol)
@someone else (58): Lucas purposely misnamed Return of the Jedi so he could catch the bootlegged copies early. He’s well aware Jedis don’t seek revenge.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:12 am
NERD ALERT
Star Wars List…
Why not also mention the plot was stolen partially from Alira Kurosawa’s movie The Hidden Fortress?
September 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
@Theodore (75): I know he was will aware of it. One of the writers of Return of the Jedi, Lawrence Kasdan thought the title was too weak and wanted it changed. Lucas agreed to change it to Revenge but then changed it back a few weeks before the premiere. I haven’t heard of the bootlegging thing though.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
@someone else (68):
This is the last time I’m going to break it down for you. It’s a clear cut, black and white issue. Either it’s someone’s work or it’s not. So for aprilweather to consider it his/her work is wrong. You are tacitly defending their act of plagiarism and justifying it with excuses like (and this paraphrased) ‘most lists aren’t original anyway’, ‘it doesn’t take much to copy and paste’ and ‘it’s done plenty of times with information on wikipedia’ and the mere fact you keep bugging me with your responses to my comments.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Break it down to me? You are the one who has me completely wrong and don’t understand what I’m saying. I am definitely not defending the submitter of the list and the website. How much more clear do you want me to make it?
I’m pissing you off with my comments? I don’t know why, you are not even reading them because you clearly don’t understand anything I’m saying.
“most lists aren’t original anyway”
You made a comment that this list was a copy. I’m saying what do you expect from this website. Nearly everything is plagiarized. The whole site is just people taking and using other peoples words. I don’t like it or agree.
“it doesn’t take much to copy and paste”
Trying to prove my point. It’s a lazy, cheatful way to run a website.
“it’s done plenty of times with information on Wikipedia”
Just call this website Wikipedia 2. I am NOT justifying what they are doing.
So what are you mad at? That I have a problem with the website when it plagiarizes? If you still think I am defending them then there is nothing left to say to you. If you are so mad at my replying to your comments do comment on an open forum.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:39 am
@someone else (68):
@gabi319 (78):
Sorry to butt in but I think you´re both saying the same thing in the end…. I think “someone else” was saying that he isnt surprised that this list was plagairized because most lists on Listverse are. He´s not defending the plagiarism, he´s saying it´s not uncommon here.
That said, I think you´re wrong. Most lists are original and if they use any source material, it is usually cited.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:43 am
i knew every single one of those… wait is that a good thing or a bad thing?
September 11th, 2009 at 10:45 am
@spidermonkey (8): I’d sure worship you!!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:48 am
@GTT
if the source is cited, its not plagiraism.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:48 am
@GTT (80): Thanks, that was my point. I was trying to agree with Gabi. Gabi didn’t understand.
However this list clearly does not show the source where the info came from and it has been proven by many comments that this is taken directly from bathroom reader.
Even if all the info that a submitter gets for a list is taken with permission from the sources and they do cite the source, it’s still copied word for word. Which in my opinion is lazy.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:49 am
last post, 83, was a joke. we’re both saying the same thing.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:53 am
@someone else (42-43-45-56-58-68-74-77-79) you are quite the dude tonight, congrats.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:56 am
GTT–Your comment made me do some research–I went back and looked at a dozen previous lists and none cited any sources.A lot of the lists are gotten from wikepedia and that’s fine.I don’t particularly trust wikepedia so I don’t use it-But every list is gotten from somewhere and are not original with the authur-No one goes around with facts about ancient religions and weird movies in their head–Why don’t you do a list of each planet and tell us everything about each one but don’t read anything or use any source but yourself.Truthfully,I have never hear of a bathroom reader but yes,I did get my information from a book that may have been citing this bathroom thing everyone talks about-So what?I read the lists because I learn something new from them-I don’t give a shit where they got the information.They got it from somewhere-Or maybe all those facts are already in their brain like you contend-Well,I’m just not that smart..sorry. Thanks again to all who have complimented my list.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:23 am
@gabi319 (78):
@someone else (79):
You two reminded me about the fights I used to have with my ex through SMS messages, I could never make my points clear, and each time I wanted to explain myself better and agree with her it got worse, it was absolutely annoying!
September 11th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Both u shut the hell up and get one of those things called a life. I get up smoke some pot have a coupla yuks at the lists then go.
I mean the abortion and religiuos lists i can understand but 3000 back and forths over plagiarism? Dam. Listverse is just for shits and giggles right?
September 11th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
“But every list is gotten from somewhere and are not original with the authur”? No, not everyone lifts a list wholesale from somewhere else. Most people think of an idea for a list with some facts in mind then search, either in books or online, for others that make up the rest. It’s a completely different thing and takes time and effort.
September 11th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
water softeners@(89) – Thanks for that reply -we strive to give the best top 10 lists – their is always the anti elements that spoil the list, but we at LS. are a proud bunch – so yeah, welcome nice to have you aboard.
September 11th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Star Wars is a beautiful piece of pop art
September 11th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
@someone else (84): Yes, but I was diagreeing with your contention that most lists on this site are copied word for word. That is a very unfair statement to make of Jamie and all the people who work hard on their lists.
@aprilweather (87): I´m not accusing you of anything… I had never heard of this bathroom reader thing either. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using various references. The problem is when something is copied word for word and the credit is not given to the original author. That´s where you can get in trouble with copywrite laws.
In any case, I thought it was an interesting list!
September 11th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Thanks for pointing out the error about Darth Vader- it is now fixed
September 11th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
@undaunted warrior (91): A few lists back, I tried to warn mom242 that these seemingly benign but actually insidiously subliminal comments that show up on practically every list, under various nom de plumes, were going to lead to the end of all humanity as we know it. I honestly think we are witnessing the apocalypse before our very eyes. Now if you’ll excuse me, for some reason for which I cannot explain, I have an uncontrollable urge to go procure a water softener.
September 11th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
GTT-Well,you’re just plain wrong-These lists are copied word for word from whatever source-”Someone else” is correct-It doesn’t matter where it came from-one source or several sources.A listmaker the other day said she got her list from IMBD–She didn’t say it in the foreword-She posted it later-Does that make her lazy or guilty of plagerism-Hell no-Not in my book-It makes her guilty of trying to present an interesting list,which she did. I got this list from a booklet called “The Making Of A Blockbuster” that came with a DVD that belongs to my son,who’s the big Star Wars guy around here-I believe he bought it at an outlet store where he goes a lot along with yard sales and flea markets trying to find anything to do with Star Wars.Maybe this bathroom whatever that you’re all so familiar with copied it from this source-Who knows? But I’m still waiting for a detailed list of the planets along with unknown facts about them that someone knows right off the top of their head. But according to you it would still be plagerism if they got it from a book-It doesn’t matter if it’s one book or ten books.You seem to think if you copy the information from several sources it’s ok-I don’t get that-But thanks for saying you found the list interesting-Let’s just agree to disagree and stay listverse friends-
September 11th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Great list, Bring on more querky little lists like these, they make for a nice read without taking to much time. The only one i knew was the Darth vader on.
September 11th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
@Lyrebyrd (50): Thanks for that – I have now replaced the copyright material with YOUR list – I hope you don’t mind. Credit is given.
I was unaware of the fact that the original list was published elsewhere – I did check it out briefly but clearly selected a part of the text which was original.
To everyone reading – go back and start over as the text is replaced.
September 11th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
I think this ends the plagerism debate, smack!
September 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Oh, I love Uncle Johns bathroom readers too!
September 11th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
@plow22 (99): Indeed
September 11th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Wow aprilweather – mighty defensive there. And nice job showcasing the fact that you can’t come up with a list on your own. Whether you like it or not, copying printed works word-for-word is often a violation of copyright laws. This list would not have been bad, if it was more than a regurgitation of info found in a book or insert. Just because you don’t think it’s a big deal, doesn’t mean the original author or courts of law will feel the same way. A better list might have included tidbits of Star Wars trivia that was actually RESEARCHED and merged together.
September 11th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
@aprilweather (96):
It´s not about using just one source or several. If you use copyright material (non open source) and rewrite it word for word, you need to cite. Otherwise, you will be guilty of plagiarism.
Anyway, I hope you´re not expecting the plant list from me… I can barely name them in order!
Now, on to the my main curiosity… This list reminded me of a certain Friends episode where Ross has a “Leia and the gold bikini” fantasy… They seemed to imply that it was a rather common fantasy. Is it?
September 11th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
@Lyrebyrd (50): Awesome list
September 11th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Crap, that was supposed to me PLANET. Sorry!
September 11th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Glad I came back to this site some new very interesting items which I wanted to know more about. Great work on your site.
September 11th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Haha jfrater just said fucking maybe you are drunk. plus i notice the nos. are blue than green.
September 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
@saber25 (107): I can not tell a lie – I was a little drunk! Also, I have removed all green from the site and slightly changed the color scheme to a mostly blue theme. I also put the stuff in the right bar into boxes. Minor changes
September 11th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
TommyH–You can kiss my ass-Which I’m sure your experienced at(kissing asses)Nothing sounds more ridiculous than somebody like you thinking they’re making an intelligent statement when they’ve got the IQ of a fart-
JFrater-I won’t be making anymore lists or making anymore comments but you can bet I’ll be monitoring all future lists-Any plagerism at all will be reported to the original author or source and yes I have ways of checking and contacts.That was a bad mistake ruining my list and putting someone else’s name on my work-(Isn’t that plagerism?)Bad mistake.I’m a veteran and I’m used to firing back when fired at.
GTT: You were critical of my list but you did it with tact and a lot of what you said made sense.You also obviously have a great sense of humor.I believe you are very intelligent and would be a great person to know.
September 11th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Yep it much more looks cool. Thanks for it!
September 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I will still follow listverse in future years. Big star wars fan too.
September 11th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Love the new look, keep up the great work the number of visitors must have increased?.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
When I was in Seoul I went to a Star Wars exhibition. Among other things there was a very early concept poster on which the film is titled “The Star Wars”, Luke has a beard and Leia has a blonde bob.
The list item about Leia having every inch of skin covered only applies to episodes IV and V, doesn’t it? (In episode V everyone is covered up because they’re on an ice planet!) In ep VI she’s in harem dress and chained to Pizza the Hut.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Like the new list. Good job, Lyrebyrd.
@jfrater (98): Great job at replacing the list. Obviously the other person wouldn’t know what plagerism is if it came up and smacked them in the face.
@Maggot (95): I am starting to agree with you.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I knew most of these. Number One is awesome.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Good call on changing the list Jamie, although it’s unfortunate the original submitter doesn’t seem to understand the difference between using information from a particular source, and plagiarizing that source by quoting it word for word without giving credit.
Also, I noticed the site looked a teeny bit different, but didn’t place the changes until you stated them. Looks good! But why the removal of all green-traces? You make it sound like green has slighted you in some way, and thus you want it out of your life! If there is some drama between you and green, we need to know about it!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
@aprilweather (109): I’m a veteran and I’m used to firing back when fired at.
Are you used to eating humble pie? Just wondering.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
@aprilweather (109): I’m going to say what everyone is thinking and just tell you your the biggest asshole ever. JF did exactly what he should have by changing the lists and your a huge pansy to talk shit to him. I know it was a huge slap to your ego to have “your” list taken down but you handled it like a little baby backed bitch. Take your head out of your ass you dong piece!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Haha! It must be embarrassing to have your list retracted from listverse. Maybe if there’s ever a Top Ten Plagiarisms That Ended in Humiliation list you may get to be on the site again. And if you weren’t such an ass about it I wouldn’t find it so funny.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
52 totalstranger
September 11th, 2009 at 8:16 am
“did anyone mention that E.T. or his race of aliens were in Phantom Menace in the senate?”
I THOUGHT I saw an E.T. in there! I thought I was imagining it!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
This reminds me to get the original movies on DVD. I don’t have the last three either. Must. Complete. Set. Compulsive collection instincts…activated!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
One more curiosity: here in Brazil Count Dooku’s name was subtitled and/or dubbed as Count “Dookan” because “Do” means “from” or “of” and “Ku” means “ass” (can I write this here?)
September 11th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
“Mother, I want to fly coach, will you fuck off!” hahaha…i love it!!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Most Honored, JFrater – thank you!!! Not the intention, but certainly appreciated! I will submit others (and not just Star Wars) officially in the future!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Man, I was upset when Han Solo didn’t appear at all during the prequels (at least by the third movie). Not that I was expecting the by-now 60+ Harrison Ford to return, but… well, at least Chewbacca came back.
I watch the Star Wars six movies back to back once in a while, and it kills me to have to wait for the fourth movie for Han, my favorite character.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
And no, I don’t watch the originals first. Chronological order all the way!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
@apepper (1):
September 11th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
ok thats good wot about darth blane then ps obiwan was awful quite for afew years on tatooine wot was he up to???
September 11th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I’m not much of a Star Wars fan… So for me, these comments were better than the list! I lol’d at everyone fighting back and forth. Hahhaahah.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
@GTT (103): This list reminded me of a certain Friends episode where Ross has a “Leia and the gold bikini” fantasy… They seemed to imply that it was a rather common fantasy. Is it?
http://www.geocities.com/flaggaz/slaveleia2.jpg
To a 14 yr old boy, it was like parent-authorized porn!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
WOW… what a way to speak to your parents!
September 11th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Not a Star Wars geek but found the trivia outstanding.
Thanks geeks…..sorry about that lunch money thing back in the day.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Did you know that Prowse also played Julian in “A Clockwork Orange”?
Great movie…
September 11th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
this list sucks balls; i didn’t know that alec guiness and peter cushing were in star wars? wait yes i did their names are in the credits
September 12th, 2009 at 12:18 am
I don’t realy like such kind of films. But I like George Lucas, who was able to reach a great success in this life & to get big funs all over the world!
September 12th, 2009 at 12:21 am
I dont realy like such kind of films! But I like George Lucas who was able to reach a great success in his life & to get big fans all over the world!
September 12th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Hey lyrebyrd wtf how bout publishing something bout 911 since it is the aniv. but intead u write bout star wars! its like the victims and the brave people of nyc and dc dont fkn matter to u so think about that!
September 12th, 2009 at 12:58 am
“And no, I don’t watch the originals first. Chronological order all the way!”
But the mysteriousness of the light saber is lost when you reach A New Hope. The part when Kenobi tells Luke about it.
September 12th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Only watched few sec. of it. Not into it.
September 12th, 2009 at 1:26 am
postul e cam lung dar e cool
September 12th, 2009 at 2:04 am
That picture of Chewbacca is from the now infamous photo-shoot he did for PlayWookie.
September 12th, 2009 at 3:32 am
@spider (137):
read the comments from the top down, it’ll be clear..
September 12th, 2009 at 6:08 am
She said that to her mother ? Bad girl
September 12th, 2009 at 8:21 am
@spider (137): Kinda harsh, eh? First of all, not lyrebyrds fault, it was a plagirized list, and had to be changed. Second of all, everything can’t be a memorial. Don’t get me wrong, it must be remembered, and a 9/11 remembrance list would have been appropriate, but it can’t all be dedicated to the day. Thirdly, this website isn’t specifically American (I hope I am correct, but jfrater is from New Zealand, right?), meaning that not every list has to be focused around America. And I know 9/11 did not only affect America, but 8 years later, not too many people from around the world would be jumping at the chance for a memorial. Fourth, jfrater publishes the lists that were written previously (sometimes by a while. I submitted a few, but they’re really shitty and I kinda hope they don’t get published), so lyrebyrd isn’t the one you should be yelling at. But I agree, a 9/11 list would have been a good way to pay tribute to the tragedy, but I also don’t blame people at all for a fun and light hearted list (which I enjoyed, myself). So, no need to freak out. And hey, why not submit a tribute list yourself? The site publishes user lists, why not take the initiative?
September 12th, 2009 at 9:15 am
The item about Carrie Fisher’s boobs is just plain wrong. They did not strap them down. Lucas decided that there were to be no bras in space, so Carrie Fisher used gaffer’s tape instead for support. You can read about that in Carrie Fisher’s autobiography and wardrobe people who worked on the film have also told the same story. Strapping breasts down means flattening them, which certainly did not happen here. I think this item should be corrected.
I like the idea of the list, but as a die-hard Star Wars fan (the originals!), I knew all of these items already.
Cheers,
Anna
September 12th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Not to harp on the already rectified issue of plagiarism, but try photocopying an article and handing it into your Grade 12 English teacher and see how far that gets you.
September 12th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Spider (137, educate youself and read everything if you’re going to make a comment. I responded to another plagiarized list, and mine was put up instead. And by the way, I watched 9/11 out of my kitchen window and breathed in smoke/dust/crud for months afterward. Did you? Don’t you dare assume it doesn’t matter to me. Use your brain and think before you post.
September 12th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
anthony daniels went 2 my school
he was in my boarding house !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Nowell)
September 12th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
LMXV (138): Understandable, but I’d rather end my Star Wars viewing with Anakin’s redemption instead of Anakin’s fall. Besides, it’s interesting to jump ahead 18-some years (chronologically) and back 27 years (in film production) at the same time between episodes 3 and 4. Then again, a jump back of forty-some years between episodes 6 and 1 might be even more interesting.
September 12th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Great stuff! Thanks for this post!
September 12th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
57 Cait
Imagine how much it hurt when they took off that electrical tape from Carrie’s boobs. Ouch, that just makes my boobs hurt thinking about it.
Really? Go on..
September 13th, 2009 at 12:03 am
Sloppy list
September 13th, 2009 at 12:07 am
OK… about this plagiarism thing. First, AprilWeather should of checked her sources first, BUT, as the owner of the website HE posted it first, without checking sources so he cannot be THAT concerned about legal lawsuits. She was in the wrong. But how many times have I seen this: “You just took this off of Cracked?”
September 13th, 2009 at 12:20 am
You bitches beat up on a girl who posted up a list THAT JAMIE APPROVED in the first place. No wonder she’s pissed.
September 13th, 2009 at 12:24 am
damien-I think Jamie said he did do a quick check to see if it was original or not, but the excerpt he checked with didn’t bring back any results. Jamie’s always been really good about taking down lists when he finds out they are copied from other sources.
Josh P-if you had been paying attention, you’d know there was controversy over the original list, and a commenter threw some facts up, which Jamie turned into a replacement list, so yeah, it’s gonna be a little less…clean…than is normal.
September 13th, 2009 at 9:07 am
@damien_karras (154): No wonder she’s pissed.
She’s pissed because she can’t admit she was wrong. And where have we seen that before?
September 13th, 2009 at 10:12 am
@Maggot (156): I already stated that she was wrong to copy verbatim from an uncited source. That wasn’t my point. I’ve seen a couple of lists where the posters cried out: “This was taken from such and such!” And yet they are still published seemingly without verification. And this is the first list in recent memory that was changed because of multiple member cry-outs: “That’s from the goddamn bathroom reader! I want my money back!” It just seemed like a mob mentality that lead to the list being changed when it could of been checked in the first place.
September 13th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Often people come in here saying “You stole this list from ____” when in fact they just happen to share some of the same entries, and sometimes parts of the text itself matches up simply because both lists used quotes from Wiki.
Any time Jamie has found that a list was copied directly from another source, he has taken it down, and anytime another site has stolen a list from LV, he has fought them to get it taken down.
September 13th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
@damien_karras (157): this is the first list in recent memory that was changed because of multiple member cry-outs…It just seemed like a mob mentality that lead to the list being changed when it could of been checked in the first place.
Look, I’m not wanting to continue beating a dead horse here, because the issue was effectively addressed and resolved. However in response to your post I’d like to point out that it appears to me that Jamie made a somewhat reasonable effort to check out the original submission first, but understandibly one cannot check every single thing and apparently the Bathroom Reader (I still chuckle at that title btw) got by him. That does not change the original wrong that was commited by the original listwriter. And so when the fact that Jamie missed this one was pointed out, he took coorective action. He HAD to. It wasn’t removed because of the “mob mentality”, but rather because leaving it up without the permision of the copyright owner would’ve been against the law. The OP didn’t start getting “beaten up” as you say, until she started defiantly copping an attitude about it, making herself look even more foolish in the process.
As DK pointed out, in the past Jamie has removed other things or added the GFDL reference or what have you. I seem to specifically recall one time in particular where he went and asked the original publisher for permission after the fact, which was granted, and then he added a cite reference & permission statement to that list. I’m not fully aware of the details behind the other instances that you refer to, so I can’t comment much about those.
September 13th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
@Maggot (159): Yeah, the Bathroom Reader makes me chuckle a bit, too. And I do suppose it’s tough to check every single list for copyright infringement. It sounds tedious, to say the least. BUT, as a goof I typed in a Google search “Facts about Star Wars” and the first thing that popped up was the Bathroom Reader!
September 13th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Let’s see…
Staying out of the controversy of where the list originated. So I don’t know who the exact, original list maker is anymore, but here’s a few comments. Obviously, I’m quite the Star Wars geek. So for items I don’t list here, just assume my comment is “knew that.”
10. Motionless Models – knew that – the list isn’t saying ALL the models were stationary, just that some were and this is the first time that technique was used. Which is true.
08 Luke Skywalker – um… Camie is Fixer’s girlfriend. The other friend who went to the Academy is Tank. The original list maker is confused about who is who.
07 Han Solo – I knew about the young Han Solo on Kashyyyk in an early draft of Episode 3 and rumors of a young HS in early Episode 1 scripts, but not something this specific. However, due to the Camie error in number 8, I find myself now questioning the veracity of this specific point’s material.
02 R2-D2 & C-3PO – knew that, and the list maker left out another cameo for Anthony Daniels in E3 (playing the same character he cameo’d as in E2 – Dannl Faytonni). (Of course, the original source this list might be from might have been written/published before 2005.) Also, it could have mentioned that Warwick Davis (the actor who portrayed Wicket the Ewok in Return of the Jedi) appeared again in The Phantom Menace, both as Wald (the diminutive, green-skinned Rodian among Anakin’s friends) and Weazel, a gambler among the Pod Race spectators (with no mask).
01 Flying Coach – ok, this one’s new to me. And it looks like the list maker is citing IMDB as his source. So I’m unsure as to the accuracy for it anyway. However, this sounds like an anecdote that Carrie Fisher would have told, and I don’t put it past her.
It seems evident to me that the list was made for people who are not really big Star Wars fans, but casual fans. All my friends pretty much knew all of this too. Yeah, I am a geek. What’s wrong with that? ;-P
I think I saw somewhere a request for a list of Star Wars plaents and some details about them? I know a lot about that material. How does one post such a list?
September 13th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Mark, Being a bit of a SW geek, I would LOVE to see a list like that! Up at the top of the page there is a “button” that says “Submit a list,” it asks for some info (your name, username, e-mail, etc), and has a big open field to copy the text of your list submission. I say go for it! And I probably don’t have to say this, especially since your comment was well written to begin with, but make sure to double check spelling & grammar, the readers can be pretty ruthless in picking things apart!
September 13th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
RE: #2 “Both Anthony Daniels and Kenny Baker, the actors that play Threepio and Artoo, respectively, had issues with the head in Tunisia.”
I guess Tunisian women are not very skilled at performing oral sex then?
September 13th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
I found this list pretty boring… Even casual SW fans would know almost all of these.
September 14th, 2009 at 8:01 am
coolness!
September 14th, 2009 at 8:41 am
@aprilweather (109):
Noo please! I´m sure Jfrater is shitting in his pants.
September 14th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
not sure if anyone hit on this but in #12.. the picture should not be of “Buck rogers in the 25th century” which came out after star wars but of the orginal serial that like another person posted was playbed by buster crabbe
the picture gives people the wrong impression.. sorry
September 14th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
http://www.wired.com/images/slideshow/2008/11/gallery_buckrogers/buckrogers1939_01.jpg
September 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Best movie/story ever!
September 15th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Lucas lifted this scene scene from Yojimbo. Start at ~3:30.
September 15th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Sorry if my english is not so good… Ok, Mark is right, the pic from #12 is from a TV series that ran from about 1917 to early eighties. The name could be Buck Rogers, but the inspiration is clearly 100% Star Wars. Back then I was just a little kid -and of course, I liked the series-, but even being so, I was prety aware of the “seize-the-star wars-hype” nature of the whole thing. Lucas was heavily influenced by Kurosawa tales and Buck Rogers old comic books and movie series, but THIS Buck Rogers -the one from the pic- is was in fact influenced by the succes and general feel and look of the first Star Wars. I read it used recicle stuff from the original Battlestar Galactica, that was itself -despite its storyline and its premise- a sort of poorer B-quality version of Star Wars. No doubt THIS Bucks Rogers owes its existence entirely to the Star Wars phenomenom. If one look at the series poster the firs thing that comes up to one mind´s is STAR WARS: the way it is designed, the Han-Solo-Like, apaerance of Buck Rogers, the ships, the special effects, the ships and costume design, all of this is without any trace of doubt Star Wars inspired. And the only reason for series like Battlestar Galactica and this Buck Rogers to exist is because Lucas and his Star Wars idea, set the path and made history in 1977. If you look at the pic you may come to the idea that the guy in it was the role model for Han Solo and that the little samurai-like helmetted robot was the inspiration for Yoda -you know “the little Yoda-looking dude”…but it happens to be the other way arround..this pic, from that 80s-made Buck Rogers exists just because of Star Wars and draws all of its “inspiration” from the Lucas world
September 15th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I’ve never seen it mentioned in print, but my Russian teacher told our class that it’s probable Lucas got Chewbacca’s name from the Russian word for ‘dog’: ’sobaka.’ Also, ‘zhabba’ is Russian for ‘frog’ (or maybe toad, I forget which), which might have inspired the name for Jabba the Hutt.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:46 am
I submit this page as proof that Star Wars fans are incredible Lametards. Q.E.D.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
C3Po’s name comes from one ground energy state of Carbon.
September 19th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
hey I’m new to google reader and I dont know how to put pictures on it. Can you tell me how email me back please! thanks!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:56 am
LOL
@Harrold(173)
Candidate for the top 10 Lulzy fail lists.
If you look closely at the bar scene – you can also see two klingons drinking blood wine.
Also there’s a ghost of one of the extras in the sxene where luke drops the soap…..
September 22nd, 2009 at 2:17 pm
david prowse was also in a clockwork orange
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Here’s another obscure (and funny) fact I read on wiki – The guy who played the character “Porkins” at first wasn’t sure he wanted to take the part when his agent told him the character’s name – because he thought it would be an “alien-pig-like” character and would require hours of makeup!