I have to confess, I simply can’t get enough of facts and factlets. The more obscure, the more I like them. This list, our fourth in the series of factlets, looks at another 20 little known facts or myths. As always you should add your own favorites to the comments for the benefit of all readers. This list was partly inspired by the Book of Myths & Misconceptions.
1. The well-known piece of music (often played by children) called “Chopsticks” was written in 1877 by 16 year old Euphemia Allan who called it the “The Celebrated Chop Waltz”. A rendition of the full waltz can be seen in the video clip here (minus the addition of the chopstick clicking).
2. Barbie was not the first slutty doll available for young girls (and the odd boy). It was, in fact, Bild Lilli, based on a cartoon character who had questionable morals. Originally Bild Lilli was sold to men as a sexual novelty item but an American woman, Ruth Handler, saw the doll and stole the concept for her Barbie for children. Lilli is pictured above. I think that the makers of Bild Lilli probably had good grounds to sue Miss Handler for stealing their idea.
3. Iron Eyes Cody was the name of an American Indian who appeared in an American public service campaign to “Keep America Beautiful”. Cody claimed to be of Cherokee/Cree lineage and certainly looked the part in the advertisement. In actuality, Cody was really Espera DeCorti – the son of two Italian immigrants!
4. We have all heard of the puritans and their extremely dull ways, but what most people don’t know is that they were not anti-alcohol. In fact, when the Mayflower sailed to America, its cargo hold contained more beer than water and not long after settlement, the production of rum became the largest industry in colonial New England.
5. This may have been mentioned on a previous list (there are now so many that even I am losing track!) It is a long-held myth that cutting out exercise causes muscle to turn to fat. This is, of course, logically impossible as one substance cannot change into another without the help of a miracle! When you stop exercising, your muscles do shrink, but you don’t lose any muscle cells (and they certainly aren’t replaced with fat cells).
6. Superman’s creators (Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster) were barely out of high school when they created their hero and sold him to DC comics for a mere $130! They certainly came to regret it and eventually took the company to court. DC settled out of court and gave the men an annual pension of $20,000 per year indexed to the cost of living. They eventually earned over $100,000 per year for their work.
7. During the course of the Second World War, six Americans were killed by the Japanese on the US mainland. The Japanese sent a series of balloon bombs to the States and most of them were destroyed by the military or landed without exploding. But, one bomb was caught in a tree in the woods near Bly, Oregon, and when a young girl tried to pull it out of the tree it exploded, killing her, the local church minister’s wife, and four children.
8. This is another myth but one which we would all love to keep alive. Scholars believe that pirate treasure is a big fat myth. Because pirates led short lives (due to their dangerous occupation), they would usually spend up large when they looted ships – leaving them with very little to spend later (because later probably wouldn’t come). Consequently, treasure maps with “X marks the spot” are most likely all frauds.
9. Contrary to popular belief, a bird will not reject its baby if a human touches it. The reason that parents warn their children against touching baby birds is most likely because the children will not be gentle enough not to frighten the poor things to death.
10. Sake was originally made in China and it is more a rice beer than a rice wine. Its main ingredients are rice, water, and yeast which, like beer, causes fermentation that produces alcohol.
11. Hair products (like shampoo, and conditioner) are mostly useless. The hair that is visible on the human body is dead hair – when hair is alive it is still beneath the surface of the skin. Nothing you add to the hair can make it healthier – it can merely add shine or color. Once the hair is out, there is nothing you can do to make it healthier. To improve the health of your hair, you should drink lots of water and eat plenty of nutrient rich foods.
12. When thinking of the oldest free standing structures built by man we usually think of things like the Pyramids and the Aztec temples, but in fact neither is true. The oldest structures built by man (and still standing today) are the Ġgantija temples found on the island of Malta (they are pictured above). They were built between 4100 and 2500 BC.
13. Lobsters have no vocal chords or pain receptors. Accordingly, when they are dropped live into a pot of boiling water the “scream” you hear is air escaping from their shells. This, unfortunately, has not deterred certainly governments from banning the cooking of lobsters in this way, in an astonishing act of nanny-statism.
14. There is no such thing as “double-jointedness” – people who are extremely flexible actually have a condition called hypermobility which is simply a fancy name for genetic flexibility.
15. John Calvin, in his hatred of the Catholic Church said: “If all the pieces [of the True Cross] that could be found were collected together, they would make a big ship-load.” This myth still persists today. In 1870 all of the pieces of the True Cross that exist around the world (cataloged in the book “Les Instrument de la Passion”) were added up; the resulting quantity of timber equates to about 2% of the amount of wood found in a typical cross from the time of Christ.
16. Contrary to popular belief, red wine and white wine do not come from red and white grapes respectively. Some white wine is made with red grapes – one example is white zinfandel. The color in wine comes from the inclusion of the grape skins – white wines are made from just the grape pulp.
17. Bra burning did not happen. The idea was mooted, but the feminists involved in the 1960s demonstrations decided it would be too dangerous so they tossed their bras into trash cans instead. The concept of bra burning was perpetuated by the media. Thousands of feminists from the ’60s are today regretting their bra burning due to their boobs now hanging below their knees.
18. Most cats love water and are fascinating by the motion and sound it makes. The myth that cats hate water most likely stems from the fact that water is often used to deter a kitten from doing something it ought not to do – either by having a bucket of water tossed at it, or a squirt from the garden hose.
19. The speed of light is constant… or so Einstein would have us believe. But he was wrong (well – he was right in a way – in a vacuum yes, the speed of light is constant). In 2006 scientists fired a laser into a tube laced with the rare element erbium – before the entire pulse entered the tube, part of it appeared at the other end and raced backward faster than the speed of light. In 1999, Harvard scientists slowed light to a mere 38 mph by shooting it through supercooled matter.
20. AOL Time Warner owns the copyright of “Happy birthday to you” and will do so until 2030 when the copyright expires. For this reason movies often use different songs (which are not in copyright or are owned by the studio) for birthday scenes. AOL Time Warner earns over $2 million per year from royalties for the song.




















1 bob
January 29th, 2010 at 1:32 am
These are always my favorite lists…
2 DoomSai
January 29th, 2010 at 1:32 am
Never knew Barbie was slutty
3 EngineerAdam
January 29th, 2010 at 1:38 am
I love random lists! #19 is definitely interesting…
4 ants1
January 29th, 2010 at 1:41 am
Love these lists, this is one of the better ones.
5 ABrutalKind
January 29th, 2010 at 1:43 am
I am glad that AOL is still able to make some money considering the fact that it has to give away internet usage, and people still don’t use it. Unless that is of course you count throwing the AOL discs around as Frisbees.
6 demon
January 29th, 2010 at 1:44 am
typo in number 3. It should be keep America beautiful
7 patricia
January 29th, 2010 at 1:48 am
This list was poorly written and the author’s attempt at humor was bad.
8 El the erf
January 29th, 2010 at 1:53 am
I’ve heard some firm recently tried to get hold of the smiley.
If that happens, its doomsday for us commenters.
9 BravehisTickle
January 29th, 2010 at 1:53 am
@patricia (7): How dare you speak against JF’s list, you’re treading into dangerous territory missy
10 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 1:56 am
great list,
Barbie is the original hoe, all the ladies of the night base thier image on her plastic visage…
@patricia— treading on awfully thin ice my dear
11 Nicole
January 29th, 2010 at 2:07 am
Spelling error in #3. “Kepp american beautiful” and there’s another one too. Can’t find it again.
anyway, great list. Although I think I’m spending too much time on the internet, because I knew most of these haha.
12 Jfrater
January 29th, 2010 at 2:10 am
Patricia is only saying that because she is one of the women who threw away their bras and now has boobs around her knees
we should pity her – she must have a hella sore back!
13 T
January 29th, 2010 at 2:13 am
I have to disagree with number 18, I have never known a cat to love water. They watch water because they are curious about anything, but try giving them a bath!
14 BravehisTickle
January 29th, 2010 at 2:15 am
@Jfrater (12): Hahahahahaha..Go man go! That’s telling the spoilsport off
15 El the erf
January 29th, 2010 at 2:15 am
Item 11 is strange.
Shampoo and conditioner are not totally worthless.
Don’t they help cleaning your hair…
Go try that with plain water …it will be more like applying water to remove grease.
16 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 2:15 am
@T my cat loves to watch water, especially patting at it for some reason, but if a slight amount happens to flick onto him he will run for the hills
17 BravehisTickle
January 29th, 2010 at 2:22 am
@T (13): Well, according to me..I too have never seen a kitty splashing around in the water, I had a big tabby cat(stray) who used to clean himself by licking and scratching all his body till it turned a shiny-brown color. No water did he use any time.
18 Jfrater
January 29th, 2010 at 2:32 am
@T (13): I know a lady who baths her cats daily – they love it.
19 chunkylover77
January 29th, 2010 at 2:32 am
Jamie, another great list about obscure facts. These types are the best, the weirder the better. Hey, didn’t you point out in another list that the bra was actually invented by a woman and not a man, contrary to popular feminist belief?
20 El the erf
January 29th, 2010 at 2:35 am
No.7 : Amusing, considering the contrasting figures of Japan and other nations.
21 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 2:43 am
will the ‘Do cats like water’ debate go on? move aside the death penalty, we have a new point to argue to the bitter end.
22 lala
January 29th, 2010 at 2:48 am
i only know the last one. good list… very obscure/ different facts.
23 ClassyKoehler
January 29th, 2010 at 2:48 am
I’ll be honest, I knew more than half of these to begin with, however, #1,8,19 and 20 are pretty cool to know.
24 Miss_Info
January 29th, 2010 at 2:58 am
Nice. I like these. heres one
“The Mayflower landed at Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1620 because they had run out of beer. Water didn’t stay drinkable on long sea voyages whereas beer would due to the alcahol”
25 Miss_Info
January 29th, 2010 at 3:01 am
‘Alcohol’ (I’m dronk)
26 Brian
January 29th, 2010 at 3:11 am
The list is really interesting. Good stuff.
In regard to #4…I think the folks on the Mayflower were not considered Puritans. Puritans wanted to remain in the CoE but “purify” it of Catholic influence and traditions. The folks on the Mayflower wanted to be totally separate from the Church and were labeled Separatists.
27 JUNQUEMAN
January 29th, 2010 at 3:12 am
H@PP@ B@RTHD@@ TO ME–H@PP@ B@RTHD@@ TO ME—OOPS, SORRY AOL/TIME WARNER–BRAZZZZZZZTTTTTT
28 scientific
January 29th, 2010 at 3:18 am
No. 19 is crazy.
29 Nicosia
January 29th, 2010 at 3:27 am
I like these kind of lists, but as a hairdresser, I must say that #11 is not entirely accurate. The hair is composed of dead fibrous protein cells, but shampoo and conditioner can do way more than add just color and shine. If your hair is weak and over-processed, you can use a protein conditioner, which does penetrate into the strand and make it stronger, replacing lost protein. A good example of this is leave-in silk protein (I swear by Farouk’s Biosilk). Shampoos remove the oil and dirt and dead cells at the scalp that keep your follicles from getting clogged. Dandruff shampoo with zinc pyrithione can keep your scalp from flaking.
30 nzall
January 29th, 2010 at 3:28 am
19) what a coincidence… i was just reading a comic book about 81st century humans who found a way to increase the speed of light and used it to bring back a long lost dictator. or something like that.
but anyway, again i liked the list.
31 Chitraparna
January 29th, 2010 at 3:41 am
I really need cash to fund my mom’s operation. Please donate what you can. I will really be thankful. http://donationforoperation.blogger.com
32 littlegoldwoman
January 29th, 2010 at 3:48 am
Ok shampoo and conditioner are useful. By saying they are not you make most of the world look stupid. Poor choice of words.
1. They clean your head and scalp
2. They add protective layers around the dead hair to make it stronger.
3. By massaging the shampoo with all of its vitamins and stuff into your scalp you are supporting hair growth.
Where do you get these. Some of them were interesting but some were just OUT THERE!
33 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 4:08 am
I really need cash to fund my night out and recreational habbits, please donate what you can. I will really be thankful. http://donationforastoner.blogger.com
34 BravehisTickle
January 29th, 2010 at 4:22 am
@mcswede (33): How much dyeh want?
35 calvin51
January 29th, 2010 at 4:24 am
The Puritans did not come over in the Mayflower. That factlet (#4) is incorrect.
36 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 4:25 am
@BravehisTickle (34): how much you got?
37 Hubert
January 29th, 2010 at 4:30 am
I have to agree with Scientific (28). Einstein knew perfectly well that the speed of light is different from one medium to another. Hell, Newton knew that. If Einstein ever said that, what he meant was the speed of light is constant within any given medium.
I always thought Iron Eyes Cody was the ultimate Indian. You learn something every day. Nice list.
38 Miss_Info
January 29th, 2010 at 4:41 am
I really need cash to fund my band of Latvian pirates.We need swords and stuff. Please donate what you can. I will really be thankful. http://donationforoperation.blogger.com
39 get a clue
January 29th, 2010 at 4:41 am
JFrater:
A quick trip to snopes.com refutes your belief that Time-Warner owns the copyright to “Happy Birthday to You.” In fact, it is still owned by the estate of the 2 sisters who penned it. Next time you watch a film with that song in it simply take a moment to watch the credits and you’ll see this is true. Mildred J. Hill and Patty Smith Hill’s progeny will than you for setting this straight.
Otherwise, thanks for a fun list.
40 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 4:54 am
@Miss_Info (38): this is clearly a more deserving cause than mine, people of listverse please, instead of giving me booze n weed money, please help Miss_Info and her loyal band of Latvian pirates. The pirating industry is under constant threat and be sure that the credit crunch has hit them too. Please donate what you can. I will be really thankfull
41 Arsnl
January 29th, 2010 at 5:02 am
@jfrater at 19: well im just a poor undergraduate student but i do think you are making a confusion between the speed of light c and the speed at which light propagates. So in transparent materials you have to divide the speed of light by n. In maxwell’s
equations c is a constant. So yes the speed of light is a constant.
A funny fact disneyland paris is NOT located in paris:-p
42 Dr.Nick
January 29th, 2010 at 5:04 am
I’d still consider shampoo useful for the whole keeping-grime-out-of-my-hair thing.
43 Paul
January 29th, 2010 at 5:06 am
That’s a shame about bra burning. I think more women should burn their bras. . . and shirts too. (Seriously, how was getting rid of a bra supposed to be a feminist statement?)
44 BravehisTickle
January 29th, 2010 at 5:10 am
@mcswede (40): Miss info is a he, not she
He gets very upset when people make this obvious mistake
45 Stefan
January 29th, 2010 at 5:21 am
@patricia (7): Shutup
Any who; Good to see you writing again jamie
46 vorropohaiah
January 29th, 2010 at 5:34 am
hey this is the first time im seeing my home-country malta mentioned in these lists! though sadly many scholars are disputing the reputed age of the neolithic temples here, theyre still pretty cool.
great work, keep it up
47 oouchan
January 29th, 2010 at 5:36 am
As usual, Frater has made a fine list….
However, for the first time ever, I was slightly upset at something you wrote….It was your attempt at humor for the bra burning. I seriously doubt any woman who participated feels ANY regret regardless of what their bodies look like now. Just had to point that out.
48 Karl
January 29th, 2010 at 5:46 am
I think “Happy Birthday To You” shouldn’t be copyrighted in the first place. It’s the most popular song in the world, yet you are going to pay every person in the world five cents because they “stole” the song? It’s a stupid idea. It’s like copyrighting a national anthem that everybody knows.
49 nicoleredz3
January 29th, 2010 at 5:54 am
Kepp America Beautiful? I’m sorry, but am I missing something here?.. Nice list…
50 Miss_Info
January 29th, 2010 at 5:54 am
@mcswede (40): now we are enemies !! :<
51 SURYA
January 29th, 2010 at 5:58 am
In fact, “If you don’t wear a bra, you will end up with boobs dangling at your knees” is a myth.
52 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 6:06 am
@Miss_Info (50): sorry miss, i mean mr_info, i was just trying to help your cause
also what was the whole bra burning/throwing away thing about, i did the sixties in school but never found out, i mean whats the point? it hardly like men bought them and made u wear them? ure just getting rid of something u have paid for and helps you… or am i just being a typical hegemonic male?
53 themonkwhostoletheferrari
January 29th, 2010 at 6:11 am
more info abt No 19 if anybody cares: http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/print/482
54 teacherman
January 29th, 2010 at 6:18 am
hmmmm, I smell an internet spinoff!
http://www.factletverse.com
Jfrater – get on it!
55 Forsythia
January 29th, 2010 at 6:19 am
Fact #19….time travel?…..kinda?
56 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 6:21 am
Frater, if u need a hand getting rid of these factletverse, just say the word, i know a set of guys that would do anything for a playboy… albeit they are 16 n geeks, but they would be able to take that ‘rival’ site down
57 bwmyers18
January 29th, 2010 at 6:31 am
I have a cat that whenever the faucet is turned on LOVES to jump in the sink and stick her head under the running water. She has also been known to jump in the running shower from time to time … which DEFINITELY will get your attention if you’re in there when she does !
58 FATSEXY
January 29th, 2010 at 6:32 am
Not a very good list.
59 L’Economa Domestica
January 29th, 2010 at 6:33 am
In Northern Europe a light beer was reputed healtier than wather, in XV, XVI and XVII centuries, so don’t worry for Mayflower’s supplies!
60 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 6:34 am
ignore my last comment, was under the impression that someone had tried to compete with this fine website
61 Firefly
January 29th, 2010 at 6:43 am
Let’s talk about cats and water again
one of my parent’s cats (Bela) likes splashing in puddles and another (Bill) likes sitting in the bathroom sink. He’ll also put his paw in the water if you turn on the tap.
I always wondered why pirates would bury their treasure. What good is it to them if it’s buried?
62 CandJ
January 29th, 2010 at 6:59 am
I always enjoy these list,you can never get enough trivia,who knows you may be a contestant on Jeopardy some day
63 pj
January 29th, 2010 at 7:05 am
dissapointing and biased.
not up to your usual standard, JF!
64 mcswede
January 29th, 2010 at 7:06 am
@pj (63): how is this list biased?
65 undaunted warrior
January 29th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Great to see you back JF great list, I wonder how much money the sale of shampoo and conditioner rakes in per annum with all the bullshit they promise on the bottle.
Enjoyed thanks, about time for one of those death, torture, suicide grisly lists Jamie, that we all enjoy so much.
66 ringtailroxy
January 29th, 2010 at 7:17 am
JayFray~
although #13 is correct, it is misleading.
“Lobsters have no vocal chords or pain receptors.”
several species lack vocal chords and are capable of making a wide range of noises. insects, fish, mollusks…although i agree with the “air escaping the shell” as the means of producing sounds…it can be a conscious reactions from the lobster!
lobsters are arthropods and although they do not possess a highly developed nervous system, they do have nociceptors, and a simple nervous system. it is the threat of pain that is the stimuli for animals to avoid noxious situations. do lobsters feel pain? yes. but not like mammals do. they have opioid receptors and produce natural opioids.
although research is lacking for lobsters, similar research involving other arthropods indicates that they are capable of reacting to painful stimuli.
if an animal cannot feel pain, why would it exhibit behaviors to avoid such a stimuli?
67 Jam Lemon
January 29th, 2010 at 7:23 am
“Most cats love water and are fascinating by the motion and sound it makes.”
You meant ‘fascinated’?
Great list! Enjoyed it.
68 marykerbie
January 29th, 2010 at 7:24 am
#17 cracked me up!!
69 majava
January 29th, 2010 at 7:28 am
Anyone who has had even a little education in physics can tell that number 19 is, well, wrong.
70 Eoz
January 29th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Well this was a lame list. #19 is just plain wrong.
There is no real evidence that not wearing a bra causes your breasts to sag, so I’d hardly include that little tidbit on a “factlet” list.
Shampoo and Condition are not useless. That’s like saying that washing under your fingernails is useless because your fingernails are dead. You still need to clean the area. And also, your scalp is alive. That, too, needs to be clean. I guess you could say that any shampoo or condition that claims that its product will make your hair healthier is lying. That’s why they all say “look and feel healthier”.
#8 isn’t a fact, it’s just an educated guess.
71 Eoz
January 29th, 2010 at 7:52 am
@oouchan (47):
Yes I got that impression from Jfrater’s erroneous comment appended to that “bra-burning” myth. It struck me as very “aww, aren’t those women precious, trying to be equals! How quaint! Obviously they should rather have perky boobs and live under the heal of a man than have freedom and equality and have saggy boobs!” But as we all (except jfrater) know, the sagging boobies thing is a myth.
72 enigmasterpiece
January 29th, 2010 at 8:07 am
nice list jamie, hope you post more of your list.
objectively speaking there were some entries here that are either debatable or wrong, but nevertheless it was a pleasure reading them
nota bene: I have a lot of pet cats throughout the years and I guess it is up to how the cats were brought up, if they were exposed to water at an early age and not in a traumatic way I guess they would like it, though I think their necessity of h2o is minimal considering that they take a bath by using their saliva and scrub themselves by their “tickly” tongue
73 Scratch
January 29th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Some interesting facts, thanks Jf. I saw a map at the Museum of War in Ottawa that showed all of the places where the Japanese balloons had been found, and I think there was one as far as east as Wisconsin.
John Calvin was likely referring not only to the reliqueries of the true cross that were in the possession of the various churches (which would amount to a third of the cross not 2%), but all of the “true” pieces of the cross being sold to pilgrims and worn about the necks of Crusaders. The sale of false relics was a booming business.
74 Mommy
January 29th, 2010 at 8:25 am
Bild Lilli was the model used to Barbie, however, the idea was not stolen. Ruth bought it and used the same molds for the original Barbie. So yes, it is the same doll, same mold but the doll changed ownership legally and was somewhat revamped. Lilli was outwardly slutty while Barbie was supposed to be a pretty adult woman for little girls to play with, not sexy. Although I think we can all agree that Barbie, no matter how many transformations she’s gone through, could still be marketed the way Lilli was.
As for the bra burning, going bra-less might not cause saggy boobs but those of us with big ones certainly find them useful!
75 Carole
January 29th, 2010 at 8:25 am
I find it extremely disrespectful to discuss a woman’s boobs hanging below her knees. How would you know? Have you checked every woman out there? Yes a woman’s breasts will sag as she gets older, just as a man’s scrotum will sag, but we don’t make fun of them if they don’t wear a jock strap !!
Like all nerds you enjoy taking pot shots at feminists. Believe or not many of us wear bras! As for having regrets. I’m sure there are many male baby boomers who regret all the stupid things they did when they were in college. Would you like me to make a list of those
things? I can think of about 50 right off the top of my head.
76 Anonymous
January 29th, 2010 at 8:33 am
I don’t want, nor do I enjoy being a killjoy, but please:
“Thousands of feminists from the ’60s are today regretting their bra burning due to the boobs now hanging below their knees.”
Don’t write this sort of sh*t. You are much smarter than this and a statement like this just makes you look stupid.
77 cbricklik
January 29th, 2010 at 8:39 am
White zinfandel isn’t a true white wine. It’s actually a blush.
78 itachi
January 29th, 2010 at 8:43 am
how would jF know about womens boobs
like he’s ever seen them
chinc
79 cf4568
January 29th, 2010 at 8:45 am
Really offensive of you to mock the feminists who threw out their bras. But then, they’re just dumb, uppity bitches, right? How dare they reject an extremely uncomfortable piece of clothing, that for many women (especially with larger breasts and sensitive skin) is like a torture device.
Would you mock a black man or woman who grew their hair in an afro during the 70s, because it was natural?
Also, as repeated here, not wearing a bra does not cause your breasts to sag. I wear one in public because I know I would face harassment if I didn’t.
Careful! Your ignorance and sexism is showing!
80 Snowflake
January 29th, 2010 at 8:49 am
#12, not true. According to recent studies (that have been approved by the international science association) is that one of the oldest structures built by man is the Sphinx of Giza. Geological studies have shown that the marks on the body are ones that were caused by erosion and heavy water flow (possibly the legendary ancient flood), which must date to at least 5000 B.C. There are also a number of other vital factors which I am not going to list.
Look up Robert Schoch for further details.
81 MommaDuck
January 29th, 2010 at 8:50 am
I hold a cosmetologist license and totally agree with shampoo and conditioner being almost useless but totally. First of all hair is hair. The only difference is the way it grows out of the skin, which is genetic. There is nothing that can be done, on the outside at least, to change the way your hair grows. Now we all know that hormones can cause major changes in our body chemistry which in turn causes changes all over the body including skin and hair. What causes hair to be dirty/greasy is the sebum or oil that is secreted from the oil gland attached to the hair follicle. Combined with the products that are applied to the hair and anything around us that gets in our hair, which is a multitude of different things, hair can get really nasty. What shampoo does is to cleanse the scalp of the oil as well as the hair. But this can leave it dry. So conditioner steps in to help smooth the cuticle of the hair shaft and can add shine and luster…but it’s temporary.
Any shampoo or conditioner that claims to “cure” split ends is a straight up lie. There is nothing that can repair split ends that can be applied to the hair, they must be cut off. Furthermore, the popular volumizing shampoos on the market aren’t worth it unless the main ingredient is a wheat product. The wheat products swells the hair shaft temporarily giving the hair a more voluminous appearance. Any shampoo, conditioner, or styling aid that claims to add shine, smooth, etc. is really just dimethecone combined with fragrance and chemicals. But it works!
Double-jointedness…many have claimed that my knees are such but I’ve always corrected them saying that they hyperextend. If someone where to have two joints where one is supposed to be, chances are they would have extreme problems and not be able to move properly. ***I can stand a good six inches from a wall and “bend” my knees backwards and touch the wall with the back of my knees.***
As always JFrater great list!
82 Bob
January 29th, 2010 at 8:50 am
Calvin’s point (and it was a legitimate one) was that there was no end of supposed relics throughout Christendom in his time. Everything from an apostle’s tooth to a bit of some saint’s hair. And of course *everybody* had a bit of the “true” cross. The scam was so prevalent, that Calvin’s remark was spot-on: if you added together all the supposed pieces of Christ’s cross, you would be surprised to find more pieces than you’d know what to do with.
Gee, I wonder if Calvin’s “hatred” of the Roman church had to do with all the awful stuff it did. Naw. . .
83 Cubone
January 29th, 2010 at 8:55 am
You can give give a cat a bath, just don’t use shampoo because it’s worthless.
84 Molly
January 29th, 2010 at 8:56 am
Really, Carole? You are taking that to an extreme. Who cares?
I wear a bra faithfully – because I assure you I don’t want boobs hanging down to my knees. I think the only one’s who don’t wear a bra are the one’s who really don’t need a bra.
I was kind of hoping your post was done in sarcasm. It appears though as if you are serious. Good luck with the boob situation.
85 Molly
January 29th, 2010 at 8:59 am
I guess I am not a feminist, because these ladies comments are pretty hysterical to me. A bra is not a torture device. It makes my breasts look perky. I wouldn’t want to be running and poke out an eye because they are bouncing all over the place. lol
Calm down, ladies, calm down.
86 MommaDuck
January 29th, 2010 at 9:07 am
The bra hysterics are amusing. Who would have thought I list about obscure facts would cause the ultra-feminists to come out of the wood work. Find a good bra and it’s like you’re not even wearing one.
87 payne
January 29th, 2010 at 9:09 am
“has not deterred certainly governments” (#13) i think u meant “certain”.
Still a great list.
88 betterthantheoriginalwally
January 29th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Aaah JFrater – not your finest hour. Not by a long shot. Spelling mistakes, poor grammar and cringeworthy humour. I did however like “factlets” 6, 15 and 20. I believe them. I love ListVerse!!!
89 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 9:11 am
Probably half of the “factlets” on this list are false. Sake is not more of a beer than a wine, yeast feeding on sugars are the source of alcohol production in ALL types of alcohol. Sake is aged, beer is not. Wine is aged, beer is not.
Cats do NOT like water, even if they are curious of the sound it makes.
Bra burning DID happen.
The reason children should not touch birds is because they are disgustingly dirty and have parasites.
Hair products are not useless, they keep your hair from collecting oils and dirt.
What a dog shit list.
90 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 9:14 am
And no you uppity bitches. it isn’t NERDS thay like taking pot shots at feminists. It is people with a sense of humor taking pot shots at everyone. So would I make fun of a black guy for having an afro? The answer to that question is YES! Why don’t you hookers get off your high horse and shut your mouths. Also make me a sandwich
91 callie19
January 29th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Oy…feminists.
92 Winston
January 29th, 2010 at 9:22 am
Too AMerican
93 betterthantheoriginalwally
January 29th, 2010 at 9:23 am
Actually Renee Pussman (89) sake IS more of a beer than a wine. Wine is made from fruit sugar and beer is made from cereal starch sugar. What is rice? A fruit? No – it is a cereal.
Since it is not distilled it is not a liqueur. It may require multiple parallel fermentation but maturation is often negligible. It can be drunk after a month or so – like beer. More like a beer than any other alcohol – you nasty little shit.
94 chaka
January 29th, 2010 at 9:26 am
I don’t think that bras are torture devices, and I happily wear one every day. However, I was annoyed by the boob-sagging comments, especially from a guy who appears to be a forward-thinking guy.
Chances are, if those bra-burners DO have sagging breasts these days, they love them every bit as much as they did when they were perky.
Those women lost their bras because they were comfortable and happy with the way they looked and felt without them, and didn’t feel they should have to compromise that because a male-dominated society wanted them to.
95 betterthantheoriginalwally
January 29th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Forward thinking chaka (94)?? The dude still supports the death penalty! That is the most backward-ass, hillbilly thinking of all time.
96 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 9:30 am
False betterthantheoriginalwally, just because the production method is a bit more like beer does not make it so. It is aged longer which makes it more like wine. Its alcohol content is much higher than beer which makes it more like wine. In fact, sake is more like its own unique thing than a beer or a wine.
If you don’t know about sake, don’t talk shit like you do. You are probably one of those dick squeezers who think that all sake should be served warm. idiot
97 betterthantheoriginalwally
January 29th, 2010 at 9:36 am
Actually you can make a very strong beer if you like up to 12-16% but it doesnt make it a wine. I happen to know the difference between your average sake, nihonshu and shouchu. I drink them all and at all temperatures.
98 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 9:43 am
You mean shoshu? Lrn2spell. And if i’m not mistaken, isn’t shoshu distilled? You are a moron. Why don’t you do a little more in depth research before you try and prove someone wrong who knows more than you? Like I said before, Sake is more of it’s own unique beverage than it it like wine or beer. So SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP!
99 MzFly
January 29th, 2010 at 9:49 am
I have a cat that is very fascinated by water, going so far as to creep up onto the edge of the tub sometimes when I’m relaxing in the bath! However, I do not believe for a second that she wouldn’t fight and scratch tooth & nail to get out of the same tub had she fallen in.
100 betterthantheoriginalwally
January 29th, 2010 at 9:54 am
I never said it wasnt distilled. And why would it be spelled shoshu? The word is made up of two characters. One is Sho (or Yaki) (焼) and the other is Chu (酎). That would make it Shochu? When you write Shoshu it looks so funny. I can hear you saying it. Shoshu!
101 Marv in DC
January 29th, 2010 at 9:57 am
@Renee Pussman
My cat likes water, always has. In fact I know a number of cats who like water. Since you are wrong on that does that mean I get to call you a dick squeezer? Chill out!
102 Phil
January 29th, 2010 at 9:59 am
Great List! I don’t agree with the cat one because i have seen cats really are very sensitive to water! Also i have seen some video clips cats jumping out of water when thrown in! I liked the one with the birds my parents did tell me that and guess what maybe they were told by their parents , the myth goes on!
103 deepthinker
January 29th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I like using these lists as topics of conversation with my friends. Whether they are true or not, it makes me seem smarter than I really am.
104 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 10:01 am
You wrote it Shouchu. You are so dumb. I speak Japanese and the romaji spelling of it is shochu. I misspelled it shoshu. And that makes me an idiot. But not as big of an idiot as you.
105 mathilda2
January 29th, 2010 at 10:01 am
Our cat hates water! He was never punished with water as a kitten, but he does not even like to walk across a freshly mopped floor, nor does he seem to enjoy watching it. My brother’s cat, however, does like to jump up on the side of the tub and stare into the water and paw at it. Unfortunately she hates to get wet, and has sometimes fallen into the tub (while someone is bathing) causing great discontent to herself and whoever is bathing as she then claws her way up and out.
I will abstain from commenting on my breasts, their perkiness or lack thereof, and my choices of undergarments.
I just found it interesting that women did not actually burn bras but rather just threw them away.
106 Nazreel
January 29th, 2010 at 10:02 am
MommaDuck #86 – where? I am desparate. I am sitting here with wires digging into my chest, hooks digging in to my back and shoulder straps that are far too far apart for the width of my shoulders.
I’m 54 and I live in Scotland and need a 36j. Help!
107 betterthantheoriginalwally
January 29th, 2010 at 10:08 am
Well well hero! Now who needs to lead the spelling charge!
I live in Japan and also speak Japanese. Thats why I had to laugh at your hysterics over the the Shoshu! Go drink a can of Shu-hai from the conbini! Believe me you an get away with writing it as しょうちゅう which in Romaji comes out to – you guessed it Shouchu!
108 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 10:09 am
You are incorrect. Shochu is the proper spelling. Also don’t lie. Fag.
109 Murray Sinclair
January 29th, 2010 at 10:11 am
I love these lists. There should be more of them on here.
110 Kurt
January 29th, 2010 at 10:12 am
Looks like from the comments here there are two type of cats !
1-Cat+ Water —–> No way!
2-Cat + Water —–>Chill!
111 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 10:15 am
Also, if you DO live in Japan you are up and on the computer at like 2:30 in the morning arguing this shit? Wow, you are a loser.
112 Murray Sinclair
January 29th, 2010 at 10:15 am
@Anonymous (76):
I think it was a joke, assclown.
113 betterthantheoriginalwally
January 29th, 2010 at 10:17 am
Its Friday night and I just got home from going out. So what? Had a few beers and a few shoshus. Whats wrong with that? Dont lie? If I look out on my balcony it sure looks like Osaka to me…
114 Murray Sinclair
January 29th, 2010 at 10:18 am
@Renee Pussman (111):
Give it up. You care way too much about this.
115 doomdoomdoom
January 29th, 2010 at 10:20 am
Apparently many of our readers lack a sense of humor? The bra burning comment was innocent fun. Are you honestly offended at a silly joke about saggy boobies? I’m sure Jamie is aware of that being a myth. He just threw it on there for a little humor’s sake. I’m sure you hear far more offensive things in the media/movies everyday and think nothing of it. So please get over your self-righteous selves and smile a little. The sixties are over, you can put your bras back on now. And while you’re at it you might want to purchase some better fitting panties. Sounds like yours are too tight.
116 oouchan
January 29th, 2010 at 10:21 am
Number 8 on the Comment Faq’s page for listverse:
8. How do I write a good comment?
You write a good comment by not insulting others, by not using CAPS LOCK, by not using repetitive punctuation, and by sticking to the argument if you don’t agree with someone. Remember, the minute you insult a person in a debate, you lose.
Applies to a few people in this thread today.
Forgot to mention this earlier. My sister had a cat that loved water. It wanted a shower everyday and expected to be washed as well. It was the weirdest cat I have ever seen…except my cat Sticker who barked like a dog and played fetch.
117 Luv4Tahoe
January 29th, 2010 at 10:22 am
Hey PUSSman, (perfect name by the way), why don’t you go drink some fucking sake, and chill out. Douche nozzle.
Fun list J.
118 Underworld
January 29th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Yet again we arrive at a battle ground where two dogs are barking constantly!
119 Albert Einstein
January 29th, 2010 at 10:31 am
“If the facts don’t fit the theory, change the facts.”
120 Luv4Tahoe
January 29th, 2010 at 10:33 am
You are right oouchan~ I take back “douche nozzle”.
121 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 10:35 am
Luv4Tahoe… You are being very rude and I certainly don’t appreciate you getting in the middle of the conversation that wally and I are having. If you wouldn’t mind apologizing that would be much appreciated.
122 Perv
January 29th, 2010 at 10:38 am
Nice list, worth masturbating on!
123 Maggot
January 29th, 2010 at 10:43 am
@Renee Pussman (89): The reason children should not touch birds is because they are disgustingly dirty and have parasites.
Not meaning to criticize the way you raise your children, but try giving them a bath once in a while.
124 Have_your_say
January 29th, 2010 at 10:44 am
I was so shocked when I realized this list was written by JFrater.
Actually I still don’t quite believe it was.
Honestly I thought it was written by an immature teenage boy.
The snide hints at woman and gays was appauling and utterly not funny at all.
I was embarrassed for you when I read this.
Were you perhaps hitting the crack pipe just a little too hard during this list?
125 Furgson
January 29th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Top Ten Weirdos at Listverse
1. nicoleredz3 (116 comments)
2. Arsnl (90 comments)
3. El the erf (82 comments)
4. Randall (71 comments)
5. deeeziner (69 comments)
6. segues (63 comments)
7. porkido (62 comments)
8. Maggot (61 comments)
9. ianz09 (60 comments)
10. oouchan (53 comments)
126 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Maggot, I don’t have children you jerk.
127 Marv in DC
January 29th, 2010 at 10:47 am
@Renee Pussman
Considering that most of your posts involve insulting someone else, don’t you think that makes you a hypocrite?
128 Scratch
January 29th, 2010 at 10:48 am
@Maggot (123):
Ha ha, nice.
He should probably see a doctor about their parasites too.
129 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 10:49 am
To Marv. Yes.
130 TequilaSunrise502
January 29th, 2010 at 10:50 am
@Renee Pussman (111):
You are a huge bitch. I absolutely despise psychotic people like you, and I hope you are committed to an asylum one day. You seriously need to chill the fuck out.
And that’s not an insult. It’s a fact.
Other than that, the list was meh, okay. Some stuff was true, some wasn’t. Lots of grammar mistakes made it hard to read though.
I just wish I could trust ALL of the info on this site, rather than having to sift through the comments to find out what’s fact and what’s fiction.
131 Luv4Tahoe
January 29th, 2010 at 10:51 am
Pussman~ No chance.
“I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.”
132 Forsythia
January 29th, 2010 at 10:54 am
@Furgson
Ahaaaaaa!!
133 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
Wow, TequilaSunrise502 called me a huge bitch! What am I going to do!?
Hey Tequila, Golf, Oscar, Foxtrot, Uniform, Charlie, Kilo, Yankee, Oscar, Uniform, Romeo, Sierra, Echo, Lima, Foxtrot.
134 oouchan
January 29th, 2010 at 10:55 am
@Luv4Tahoe (131): and the win goes to Luv4Tahoe for the use of an EPIC insult from The Holy Grail.
135 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 10:56 am
And the fail goes to oouchan for thinking that insult was in any way epic.
136 oouchan
January 29th, 2010 at 10:58 am
@Renee Pussman (135): Not a Monty Python fan, are you? I can tell from your sense of humor.
137 Jimmy
January 29th, 2010 at 10:59 am
@Renee Pussman : You mean to be precise go fuck yourself!
138 Luv4Tahoe
January 29th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Thanks oouchan! I would like to thank all my fellow commenters on Listverse. I couldn’t have done it without you. Also, my Mom, you are the best! My manager, Slick Eddie, don’t think this means you get more than 15%! And of course, Jesus.
(Why do they always thank Jesus? Do they think he’s hanging out up there, chillin’ with the apostles, “DUDE, I told you he would win best actor!!! That was all me!!”)
139 Renee Pussman
January 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
i am a monty python fan, but that insult was stupid then and it is stupid now
140 Arsnl
January 29th, 2010 at 11:03 am
@Maggot (123): damn he didnt get it. But looks like a new ass is in town. Im up. We should also call for the erf and saber. Lets call it ass-fest. We’ll meet every january and drink ouzo.
@Luv4Tahoe (131): good one.
141 Syntax Error
January 29th, 2010 at 11:15 am
Barbie is a slut!haha! Mommy I wan’t to get that slutty doll that has sex with every other boy she finds attractive!
142 Maggot
January 29th, 2010 at 11:20 am
@Arsnl (140): We should also call for the erf and saber
Don’t put me in the same class as those two doofuses. I can be an ass, but I have a personal standard to uphold.
143 Jenny
January 29th, 2010 at 11:21 am
Puritans would ger rip-roaring drunk after funerals. Even small children would participate.
144 Jenny
January 29th, 2010 at 11:22 am
@Myself: That would be “get” and not “ger.”
145 copperdragon
January 29th, 2010 at 11:42 am
too many typos and a few items are wrong (shampoo, einsteins quote, happy birthday)
146 TastesLikeChicken
January 29th, 2010 at 11:43 am
@Kurt (110): You’re wrong there, Kurt –
“Looks like from the comments here there are two type of cats !
1-Cat+ Water —–> No way!
2-Cat + Water —–>Chill!”
There is a third kind -
3-Cat + Water + Beans + Peppers –> Chili!
147 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 11:43 am
@Snowflake (80):
Bullshit, “snowflake.” Yours truly has debated Shoch himself on this point, online. No accredited, mainstream scientific group has endorsed his ideas, which are still unsubstantiated and highly debatable. It isn’t that the Sphinx *couldn’t* be much older than it’s supposed to be… but as yet there is no concrete evidence that it is. And no mainstream support, as you imply, for the idea that it is.
148 Kyla
January 29th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Shampoo and conditioner are not useless at all.Useless at making your hair healthier certainly, but shampoo gets the oil out, and I could never brush my hair without conditioner. It would be a rats nest.
149 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 11:49 am
@Maggot (142):
Maggot is in Randall, Bucslim, Woyzeck, etc. ranking. He does not belong with, and is far funnier than, erf and saber.
150 asdf
January 29th, 2010 at 11:50 am
These are some fascinating facts. Great list.
151 Maggot
January 29th, 2010 at 11:56 am
@Randall (149): Check’s in the mail, dude.
152 jfrater
January 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
It is taking every ounce of my strength not to reply to some of the comments here
153 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 11:57 am
The list is far too Hungarian.
154 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
@Maggot (151):
Didja include all the zeroes this time, clown?
155 CandJ
January 29th, 2010 at 11:58 am
My cat loves the water(he becomes mesmerized by it),he’ll watch use bathe,wash dishes etc…,ever since he was a kitten I’ve given him a bath(with a little baby shampoo)every once in awhile,now he’s 2 and still loves it,I think the key is,get them into the water(gentle steps),when the’re still a kitten.
P.S.
this list has alot of people heated up,I love it ;D LOL
156 oouchan
January 29th, 2010 at 11:59 am
@jfrater (152): Don’t censor yourself. Go for it. We can take it.
157 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
@jfrater (152):
So the Rage Counseling is going well I see. The court imposes those things for a reason, Jamie. Remember that. Being given a second chance is something to be thankful for.
158 jfrater
January 29th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Oh – one thing – someone said I was having a subtle go at gays – I presume you mean my comment “and the odd boy” on the Barbie item. This may be confusion over my use of an English term (as opposed to American – remember, I am not American). In British/Commonwealth English, “odd” can be used to mean a small number – for example: “we bought a box of chocolates but the odd one was tainted” – this is not meaning the chocolate was “odd” as in “weird” – it is referring to an undetermined quantity. It is in that sense that I used it. If I meant it as a jibe at gays I would have said “and odd boys”.
159 MommaDuck
January 29th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
@Nazreel (106): I haven’t found the perfect bra…yet. There are places that will take all the measurements for you and fit you with a perfect bra, but those can be some what expensive, hence the reason I have not done it yet. I found a couple of “t-shirt” bras by fruit of the loom. These do not have wires but provided enough support even after having a baby. I also found one by hanes. It did have underwire but I took them out and it provided fairly good support also. I found these at the local big box store. Good Luck!
160 MommaDuck
January 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
@Nazreel (106): Ooops, sorry I just remembered your last line. You might have to find a specialty store. Search around online for one close to you. I would also search for information on how to fit yourself for a good bra.
161 Arsnl
January 29th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
@Randall (149): randall let me explain you something. Once you declair yourself as being funny well you become quite sad. How sad? I dont know something between bush’s re-election and brussels. Ive never hear jimmy carr screaming: im funny me. Laugh people laugh. Also it was an ass list not a how funny list. I know english is your first language but is comprehension one of your qualities. Or should i imagine you got stuck on a raft in the middle of the ocean and the pee thing didnt work well for you.
@Maggot (142): i did not include you in this triad of ass’ness.:-p funny yes. Ass no. I wrote a casual comment.
162 jfrater
January 29th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
@oouchan (156): I know the regulars can – it is the less-regular posters I am worried about
@Randall (157): Indeed – I will be forever grateful to that judge
163 bucslim
January 29th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
@Randall (149):
An amazing factlet that is factual is that the ranking is me. End of ranking. I’m friggen Carlin and the rest of yas are CLOWN SHOES.
Suck it.
Oh yeah, beaver ass juice.
164 callie19
January 29th, 2010 at 12:16 pm
@bucslim (163): Can’t believe it took 163 comments for BAJ to show up. This place is slipping…
165 CandJ
January 29th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Bratz are the sluts of the doll world
166 mrsmarvel
January 29th, 2010 at 12:23 pm
“The women dumped symbols of female oppression—girdles, steno pads, stilettos—into a “freedom trash can.” Bras went in, too, but none were burned. That myth began when a sympathetic female New York Post reporter thought that a juicy first line conjuring up comparisons to burning draft cards might get more attention for the event.” From Newsweek. I thought that was interesting. They were protesting outside the Miss America pageant in Atlantic City. Boobies gotta be small and flat to go braless comfortably, and small boobs aren’t going to hang around your knees. Boobs stretch out from aging and gravity, nursing babies and weight gain/loss. Supporting them with a bra helps them retain their perky shape longer, but doesn’t prevent the sag. That’s why boob lifts are popular plastic surgeries. Fun list even with some misfactlets.
167 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
@Arsnl (161):
Okay, firstly:
Do not feel you are in any way qualified to “explain” anything to me, you incoherent babbler. I am usually forgiving of those whose first language isn’t English, but honestly, reading your incomprehensible, misspelt postings is pure torture.
Secondly, I was sticking up for my friend the Maggot, not “declaring” myself to be funny. However, yes, I do think I’m rather droll, and certainly a far greater wit and intelligence than either of the parties you mentioned–or for that matter, you.
Thirdly… are you by any chance French? I thought so. It’s no wonder I don’t like you.
168 anna
January 29th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Thousands of feminists from the ’60s are today regretting their bra burning due to the fact that this one thing became a symbol of feminist movement to sexist males and doormat females, who couldn’t understand what it was all about. And if this was meant to be an attempt at humour, it wasn’t very original or funny.
Still, I like these kinds of lists and some of the comments are enlightening.
169 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
@bucslim (163):
Okay…. all this is true. Because anger is an energy and a driving engine of humor. And you are one angry motherfucker. And that is why I love you.
Beaver Ass Juice for everyone! It’s on me!
170 Scratch
January 29th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
I vote for Woyzeck.
And perky boobs.
171 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
@Scratch (170):
I fear he’s left us forever, Scratch.
172 Nauplius
January 29th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
@Randall (169): Beaver Ass Juice for everyone! It’s on me!
Randall = Beaver Ass
173 Scratch
January 29th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
@Randall (171):
At least perky boobs are here to stay.
174 Molly
January 29th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
@jfrater – Why control yourself? It’s your list – you should be able to say what you want?
175 Maggot
January 29th, 2010 at 12:47 pm
@Randall (169): And that is why I love you
Hey I thought we were “special” friends. You keep pulling this shit and I’m going to trade you in for a Bild Lilli doll.
Beaver Ass Juice for everyone! It’s on me!
I, for one, will NOT be licking it off you.
176 oouchan
January 29th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
@Maggot (174): I, for one, will NOT be licking it off you.
Damn! And here I thought I would finally have my yaoi moment between you two.
177 a.
January 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Barbie is slutty and sagging feminist boobs?
A little sexist are we?
178 Arsnl
January 29th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
@Randall (167): why do you feel the need to declare yourself smarter than a guy in his 20s. I guess you are in your 40s, 50s and if i recall you do have a degree in something. Im guessing literature. So fighting an undergraduate math student (+im not french, english is my 3rd language- i guess im explaining this to appeal to your intelligence) would be kind of boring. But you still do it. What i have learnt at all the courses with all my profs and at some conferences ive attend with top math profs (fields laureats): modesty. They were all modest people that gained respect by their knowledge. They did not insult when they were served a “stupid” question. They answered with calmly. My dear Randall you lack that modesty. You insult. You are offensive. Thats why you can win my respect- yes i know you dont care. You lack tact.
Humor is a matter of taste and ive stated this so many times. Im happy you consider yourself funny. Cheers to you. But i do have the right to express my opinion: you are not. You have other qualities: good cinema tastes and some comments are pretty good and informing but i personally dont read you comments to have a laugh. Thats why we have buc here.
Ps please excuse my poor english. Can i check your math?
179 wicket18
January 29th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
My college roommate had a cat who would bathe in the bathtub using the dripping faucet water. A very clean cat, might I say.
And I am one of those w/ hypermobility in my legs…it can be a fun party trick.
180 w00tz
January 29th, 2010 at 1:15 pm
About the one about the speed of light: scientists were actually able to get light to a complete STANDSTILL, by putting it through a Bose-Einstein condensate.
181 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 1:17 pm
@Scratch (172):
Yes, and thank god my friend. Thank. God.
182 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 1:18 pm
@Maggot (174):
“I, for one, will NOT be licking it off you.”
Awww… you knew what I meant. See? We ARE special friends.
183 Randall
January 29th, 2010 at 1:29 pm
@Arsnl (177):
I still bet you’re French. Or worse, Belgian.
I am 44. I still possess all my faculties. But I don’t see the relevancy in age; I don’t care how old you are or anyone else is. A sense of humor is what matters, and you’re lacking in one.
This is not the classroom, Arsnl. In a professional setting, I behave and speak differently—because here, we’re not “real people” and this is not a real setting. You’re just words on a screen to me. When I have taught, I’m far nicer and far less acerbic. Here, I’m in character.
Yup, on this stage I’m insulting, offensive, and immodest. All deliberately so. It’s the role I play here. That you or anyone else doesn’t like doesn’t concern me the least–because this is not my real life nor will it ever be. Winning yours or anyone else’s respect is not really my concern either. If someone here respects my intelligence, my writing skills, or humor, that’s nice. But they don’t really *know* me at all, and so it’s somewhat ephemeral.
And again, I don’t care the tiniest bit whether you find me funny or not.
And no, you’re not allowed to touch my math.
184 bucslim
January 29th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
@a. (176):
Oh come on. Have we gotten to the point that ANY mention of the size, shape and general condition of breasts by men means they are sexist? You cannot undo the male condition burnished into our psyche to be attracted to boobs. It is true whether you think it comes from God or it comes from evolution.
And for crying out loud, this is the first time in history that someone has rightly called Barbie slutty and been called a sexist – feminists for years have bemoaned the mere existence of Barbie to be an offense. So which is it? An impossible standard for little girls to try to live up to or slutty? You cannot have it both ways.
185 noclustu
January 29th, 2010 at 1:33 pm
#15 made me say “uh oh!”
186 deeeziner
January 29th, 2010 at 1:34 pm
If I burned my bra I’d be warm all winter.
187 bucslim
January 29th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
@Randall (182): ‘
Judas Priest! I had to go to the Thesaurus for a few of those words. I liked you better when you used crayons and a Big Chief notebook. Ephemeral? Acerbic?
I find your posts to be truculent and magniloquent.
And BTW – that Roget is one cool motherfucker!
188 bucslim
January 29th, 2010 at 1:41 pm
@deeeziner (185):
We’ve touched on this before, yes?
I mean on the topic, not. . .
Oh shit.
189 Maggot
January 29th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
@oouchan (175): And here I thought I would finally have my yaoi moment
Patience is a virtue, oouchan.
between you two
I think we can make room for you. Just don’t tell buc.
190 gazza
January 29th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
these lists are always the most interesting
191 deeeziner
January 29th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
@bucslim (187):
*Smirk* *Wink*
192 Scratch
January 29th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
@deeeziner (185):
Is your bra made out of a rubber tire or . . .
ooooooh.
ok.
193 allie80
January 29th, 2010 at 2:11 pm
Two thumbs up, I appreciate the humor. Makes me laugh!
194 Arsnl
January 29th, 2010 at 2:25 pm
@Randall (182): no as i said english is my 3rd language, french second ….(fill the dots first). Well i try to act in my “net life” as i act in my real life. Its a matter of consistency. Why should i behave differently. My real life does not frustrate. Thats usually why people behave differently in different circumstances.
About you age: i did not imply you’re losing your wits. Im saying you’re double my age so you have an advantage in direct confrontations.
Also i write Randall size comments because i respect myself and i do care explaining why i dont like something and to present my arguments. I dont care if you like/dislike what i think. I dont do this for you. Maybe you do enjoy in this “alter-lifer” to behave like a child. But you keep making connections between your real life and this one. So i guess this life (even if you dont think its real) does define you in part. You take pleasure in petty arguments and you enjoy insignifiant “victories”. Its NOT a role. Its part of you. One cant play a role for such a long time. Unless you are an actor but i doubt that.
Please read my comments because i dont know how many times i can stress: i do not care what you think of me or my opinions. Why cant you get that and move on?
Ps: if you dont want me to bug you on your mathematics dont bug me on my english. Take it as it is.
@bucslim (186): ephemeral thats an easy word. Acerbic? I dont know what that means but in my native language: something that hasnt any deer like qualities. The moon is acerbic, hot chocolate isnt.
195 Al Giovanelli
January 29th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
The idea was “mooted”?
196 Nikole
January 29th, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Good list! But I have to disagree w/ fact #11,because I’m pretty sure that if I did not use shampoo, my hair would be hella greasy!
197 D train
January 29th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
What the hell JF?!
Barbie’s not even remotely slutty.
198 Miss_Info
January 29th, 2010 at 3:27 pm
@Randall (182): I want IN! I can be the new Woyzeck! Who do I have to kill?? If you say Arsnl I’m 10 steps ahead of you!
199 jfrater
January 29th, 2010 at 3:51 pm
@Al Giovanelli (194): “to moot” means to consider something careful – to discuss its merits.
200 tasmanian devil
January 29th, 2010 at 4:16 pm
John Calvin is right in his hatred of the Catholic Church. I believe it to be the biggest scam in history. They are actually a giant money-making scheme and even worse , a giant child-sex ring. They hook parents into trusting them with pathetic fairytales and then abuse their children unhindered.
201 Jason
January 29th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
On #14, did people really think flexible folks literally had two joints where everyone else had one? I thought everyone understood that it was just a colloquial term.
This seems akin to making a factlet that states: ‘turkey necks’ don’t actually exist, because older, overweight people don’t literally grow a turkey’s neck on their own, it’s just a combination of fat deposits and lack of skin elasticity creating the appearance of a turkey’s neck.
202 D train
January 29th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
@tasmanian devil (199): Hey, I don’t like the church any more than the next guy, but I’d think it’s a little harsh to accuse it of being a front for an international pedo ring. It’s simply a system that has the unfortunate property of being easily abused. Also I can’t imagine the (unfounded) notion that sex is bad helps much but I wouldn’t say pedophilia is a function of the church, just a by-product, if that.
203 Steven
January 29th, 2010 at 4:33 pm
I’ve been to that temple in Malta
204 kristie
January 29th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Cats do TOO love water. I give my cats baths, they love it. The fact they freak out when you try to bathe them is that they are afraid of the unknown. There’s a trick to get them to like baths that works for me: fill the bath first, with warm water. The running tap seems to frighten them. Scoop up your cat, best to get them when they are somewhat “sleepy”. Lower cat into bath and use soothing words. Finish.
205 LookyLoo
January 29th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
Usually I enjoy these lists very much – all Listverse’s lists, as a matter of fact. But when you drop in stupid and misogynistic comments about boobs that don’t add anything to the list other than make you sound like an unfunny frat boy. . .well, it ruins them for me.
and, @bucslim (183): You are missing the point. Guys can be attracted to boobs all they want. The problem I and others have with comments like this is it diminishes women to their parts, and to their attractiveness to men. As in, “Those feminists must really regret their political stances and deeply held beliefs now that men don’t find them as attractive anymore!”
206 TLX
January 29th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Every cat I’ve ever had HATES water, and we didn’t discipline them with it at early ages either.
207 Vera Lynn
January 29th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Not wearing a bra does cause certain ligaments to stretch, which leads to sagging. Cant be reversed. I always wear a bra. I have great titties.
208 kennypo65
January 29th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
I once had a cat(Fritz) who would get in with me when I took a shower. He was very clean.
209 Yi
January 29th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Einstein is crying in his grave right now.
Too many people misunderstood what he means when he says the speed of light is constant. Entry level physics for most science major requirements in college should have a brief overview of relativity that can explain this.
210 iknownothing
January 29th, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Lobsters feel no pain, Wonder if one would freely walk into a pot of boiling water?
211 Moonbeam
January 29th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
I’m not offended by the joke about the bra burning – I just found the joke awkward and not very funny – sorry Jamie.
@Paul (43): You ask how getting rid of bras would be a feminist statement; woman were trying to fight against conforming to society’s standard of beauty. Many of the protests were held at beauty pageants (Which is a whole separate issue. It’s so bizarre to me to think that holding a contest to decide who is the most beautiful could possibly be a good idea. It seems so degrading to line them up like soup cans and pick the “best one.”) One issue woman had was that bras changed the natural shape of the body in order to look the way society thought was pleasing in the style of the time – as in the “bullet bras” of the ’50′s. Today’s version is the push up padded bras like Victoria’s Secret; or surgical implants used in order to alter woman in order to conform to what currently is considered sexually appealing. So much for “you’ve come a long way, baby.”
Later on in the ’70′s going bra-less was used as an expression of sexual freedom and confidence. Along with birth control it was a way for woman to take control of their own sexuality. It was a backlash against submitting to the control of a husband or society.
More information than you requested, I suppose…
212 bucslim
January 29th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
@LookyLoo (204):
I don’t have a single problem with anything you’ve said. During my time here on earth I’ve seen plenty of boorish and just plain stupid behavior by men towards women.
I’m simply saying as a heterosexual man, I enjoy the company of women. Women have boobs. I like women, and by extension, I like boobs. I don’t think there is anything inherently misogynistic about that.
213 Diogenes
January 29th, 2010 at 7:04 pm
-I think bullet bras would be an awesome retro-nuevo-trend. Surely since the atom bomb and all, the wearing styles between the bikini and now, a comfy fit for a torpedo bra that is both devastating to men and healthier than heels are for woman. That way, theres a balance and both could be worn at the same time.
Kapow!
-also to judge beauty in a contest usually means that contestants believe themselves beautiful within the narrow parameters of the contest (ie: ever see diversity in the Miss Amer/ Univ ?)
-And,
I have no prob with occasional bralessness, especially if a thin teeshirt is involved….
and it’s cold outside.
214 user787
January 29th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Living hair and dead hair? That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Please check a basic biology textbook before writing something like that!
215 Maggot
January 29th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
@Moonbeam (210): You ask how getting rid of bras would be a feminist statement; woman were trying to fight against conforming to society’s standard of beauty. Many of the protests were held at beauty pageants
Apparently the movement got its start at the 1968 Miss America pageant:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94240375
And it wasn’t just bras: “Women threw bras, mops, girdles, pots and pans, and Playboy magazines — items they called ‘instruments of female torture’ — into a big garbage can.”
216 SpiffyTiffySue
January 29th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
Well I must say, this wasn’t one of the best lists that JFrater has published. It seems rushed in research. Alot of these facts are either flat out wrong, or not entirely true. I also find the attempts at humor just plain obnoxious and rude.
217 astraya
January 29th, 2010 at 9:05 pm
If Playboy magazines are instruments of female torture then perhaps women shouldn’t read them!
218 TheRose
January 29th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
JFrater, that comment about the feminist movement really pisses me off.
It must be so easy for you, being a white heterosexual male. When did you ever have to fight for your rights in your country? When did you ever have to be part of a movement to stand up for your integrity? That ‘joke’ was ignorant and insensitive.
FYI, breasts get saggy because of something called GRAVITY, not because there are no bras holding them up.
I liked you until now.
219 Yi
January 29th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
@TheRose (217):
Agreed. That was just plain bad taste.
220 Mrs. Antichrist
January 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
JFrater’s lists are always poorly written and unfunny.
221 General Tits Von Chodehoffen
January 29th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Ok list, but LV can do better
222 xphoenixx
January 29th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
Reading the comments is just as entertaining as reading the actual list. XD
By the way JFrater, I liked your list. And no, I don’t think the saggy tits joke was sexist. People are just overly sensitive about everything. (I’m sure you’ve noticed by now.)
223 twitus
January 29th, 2010 at 10:32 pm
“Thousands of feminists from the ’60s are today regretting their bra burning due to their boobs now hanging below their knees.”
- – lol first time I see you put something such subjective in one of your analyses!!!!!! You should link this to the bloom of the siliconed tits in the 80s.
224 Okay.
January 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Here’s my problem with #17 and the bra burning joke: It’s contradictory. The very first thing in the “factlet” states “Bra burning did not happen.” Then the joke states that they regret the bra burning. They can’t regret doing something you just said didn’t happen. Throwing them away, sure. Burning, no.
Although the grammatical errors and lack of research made this entire list cringe-worthy. Doesn’t this site have any sort of editor?
225 Lucian
January 29th, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Sake isn’t wine since wine is made from grape, I’m European and we have a law saying wine must be made from grapes. The law is supposed to go back to the end of the nineteen century then the Germans made “wine” from beet sugar and flavouring, the French responded by forbidding non-grape and eventually the French law became European law. How’s that for random fact?
226 superbloop
January 29th, 2010 at 10:48 pm
I wonder how light that slow would look…
227 Bunbunbunbun
January 29th, 2010 at 10:51 pm
AHEM! “Bras aren’t needed for breast health, and no viable data has ever shown that brassieres prevent breasts from sagging over time. The sag or droop of breasts over time is about genetics and the unique proportion of fat and tissue of a given woman’s breasts.” (http://www.scarleteen.com/article/advice/abreast_the_basics_of_boobies)
I don’t know, but the joke just didn’t sit well with me.
228 BravehisTickle
January 29th, 2010 at 11:15 pm
I don’t know why people tend to take everything so seriously that it seems the world will end if they are not appeased.
229 themonkwhostoletheferrari
January 29th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Hmm.. does barbie wear bra ? does her boobs start to hang below the knees after some years?
230 Fred
January 30th, 2010 at 12:44 am
As has been pointed out earlier, the song “Happy Birthday” is *not* controlled by AOL Time Warner. The rights are administered for the estate of the writers by Alfred Music Publishing/Warner Chappell.
It should be noted that the copyright is for the lyrics only–the tune is an old English tune and does not enjoy copyright protection.
Finally, there is some complaints as to why anyone should hold rights to the song as though it is so popular that the writers should have no more claim after awhile. They control the rights because they wrong the song. We should all be so lucky as to write a little thing that everyone knows.
As for #8, I think this is worded a little poorly. Perhaps you mean that *buried* pirate treasure is largely a myth? Certainly pirates had treasure (most of it spent quickly or kept in the hold of their ships).
231 Chris
January 30th, 2010 at 1:38 am
Great list. I love trivia. My wife’s friends have nicknamed me the “Professor” and often say Pinky and the Brain quotes to me.
As an exercise physiologist and strength and conditioning coach number five really annoys me. I’m glad it’s on this list. The reason people think they can turn fat to muscle or muscle to fat is because it appears to be true. What happens is that when someone starts gaining muscle with a lot of fat present they will generally gain faster due to a number of reasons like meso/endo-morphic body type, the right metabolic rate to produce muscle (characteristic of weight gain) and the fact that they have a lot of available fuel. Muscle appears to turn to fat because muscle is highly metabolically active. Basically the more muscle you have the faster your metabolism. As you lose muscle you lose some of your fat burning capacity. So muscle disappears while fat seems to materialise. It’s like saying that my sunglasses keep away tigers. I’ve never been attacked by tigers so it must be true.
Moral of the story; muscle loss will cause fat gain if the diet is not adjusted but the muscle itself doesn’t turn to fat. One is a long fibrous cell, the other is a semi-liquid blob shaped cell.
Rant over for me. I’m sure that was something everyone wanted to hear.
232 pdxstargazer82
January 30th, 2010 at 2:30 am
People need to chill out.
@JFrater: i liked the list. Its entertaining, and well everyone makes mistakes, who really gives a shit? People need to stop nit picking.
233 astraya
January 30th, 2010 at 2:33 am
How small does a fact have to be before it becomes a factlet?
How big does a factlet have to be before it becomes a fact?
Indeed, can a fact ever shrink into a factlet, or a factlet grow into a fact?
Can I write statements instead of questions?
Who am I? What is my quest? What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
234 sirMouse
January 30th, 2010 at 3:32 am
Got over reading at about number 80. I, a female, am not at all offended by the whole bra-burning comment. It was a joke, and as far as I see it was more about how women’s breasts naturally sag with age rather than the disputed ‘fact’ that not wearing a bra causes your breasts to sag. Just sticking up for JF (great list btw)
On an unrelated note, how is burning bras empowering? It just makes you uncomfortable. And oogled at. Can anyone explain this to me?
235 oouchan
January 30th, 2010 at 5:45 am
@astraya (231): African or European?
236 BenDaBall
January 30th, 2010 at 5:57 am
Can someone please explain factlet #15 for me because I don’t get it… sorry
237 ron s
January 30th, 2010 at 7:29 am
@wwwurfreegiftscom (233): that free gift’s probably a scam. dont try it!
238 Moonbeam
January 30th, 2010 at 7:42 am
@sirMouse (232): If you had read more of the comments you’d see that it has already been explained.
239 ZibbyYamala
January 30th, 2010 at 7:49 am
wow! i’d sue barbie QUICK.
240 mcswede
January 30th, 2010 at 8:02 am
its all getting a bit much now…
241 scorchio!
January 30th, 2010 at 8:49 am
the giza pyramids were supposedly around before the last great flood… hence 10000bc or earlier…
bleh
242 madamepower
January 30th, 2010 at 9:09 am
I’m really glad to read the part about hair products being useless.Taking vitamins and drinking water are much less expensive than buying fancy hair stuff.
243 tom
January 30th, 2010 at 9:43 am
This list is a load of crap. A lot of it is observational and one sided. The whole truth isnt being said. Like the hair cleaning products. “useless”? Try not using it for a year and then talk to me. Next time get the whole story and come back to us.
244 polecat
January 30th, 2010 at 11:59 am
Uh, lobster’s don’t feel pain? You’re really just going to state that without doing any actual research? There is more evidence that they can feel pain rather than not. Just because the have a simple nervous system doesn’t mean they don’t feel pain. There have been experiments where they react to painful stimuli in a way that suggest they feel it to some degree; even a quick trip to wikipedia would have told you any of that. Maybe next time you should do some research before telling people it’s okay to torture lobsters because they can’t feel it.
245 CandJ
January 30th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
I’m not fond of lobster,so I don’t eat it but I know people who swear they can hear the lobster screaming,when they put it in the boiling water,sounds like they feel pain to me.
246 Brebe
January 30th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
I love when my boobs sway in the wind.
247 Jim H
January 30th, 2010 at 1:27 pm
#9 most people are not aware that BIRDS HAVE NO SENSE OF SMELL or TASTE. It is thought this is may an evolutionary sacrifice to devote so much brain band-width to their keen sense of vision. Mama bird, and baby and daddy, can’t smell (or taste) a thing.
248 lark
January 30th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Wow. What a sexist, chauvinistic article. Ugh. You disgust me, JFrater.
Barbie, slutty? I think not. I think that’s your projection you’re casting on the doll. I believe that is the workings of your own sick fantasies.
& on Bra Burning: “Thousands of feminists from the ’60s are today regretting their bra burning due to their boobs now hanging below their knees.” Really? You are a disgusting pig. How unintelligent of you. Even as a joke it’s offensive & uncalled for. Don’t act too threatened now, we all know your tiny wittle manhood is threatened by powerful women, no need to sink so low.
249 astraya
January 30th, 2010 at 2:09 pm
@oouchan – I don’t kn – AAAAAAARRRRGH!!!!
(see what happens when I make a statement rather than ask a question?)
250 swissgirl
January 30th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Calvin’s point was the refusal of idolatry which umm….the “traditional”church believed(s) in.to each his own.
251 Chris
January 30th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
lark, you are truly an idiot. How was that being a pig? The bra burning days were utter stupidity. Women took things too far with feminism. They wanted all these equal rights and shit, but still expect men to hold doors open and treat them like royalty. You can’t have it both ways. I believe in equal opportunity and think women should be paid that same as men for the same job and all that. However feminism is destructive and stupid. It has left a negative impression. For instance my wife is a day carer. She has worked with many women who say that it is a disgrace allowing men to work in the industry because it’s dangerous. What a fucked up statement. This assumes that all men are filthy pedophiles. This is a direct result of feminism. Women want equal rights but they also want special treatment. You can’t have it both ways. Besides, how the fuck is burning a bra empowering? Dumbasses! Bras are designed not to constrain women, they are designed for the health and comfort of breasts. If men had breasts we would wear a bra and wouldn’t complain about having to. No man ever said women have to wear a bra, it’s just common sense. So stop being a man-hating lesbo.
252 ouiareborg
January 30th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
Hey Frater, that’s your comeback? You come up with lists saying, “Most people think…”, just to sound smart, and can’t even engage in real debate without insulting someone? You’re pathetic, and a poor excuse for a singer. I, myself, never scored lower than 158 on an IQ test(I don’t believe in them), and that was when I was drunk. 173 is my high(Have proof for anyone who has the money). One day we will get a chance to meet, and you won’t be able to hide online, or behind your pathetic brown-nosers.
253 Moonbeam
January 30th, 2010 at 5:57 pm
@Chris (249): Usually when a comment is as off the wall as yours I simply ignore it, but this one had me laughing.
“…but still expect men to hold doors open and treat them like royalty.” – I hold doors for men and woman; and men and woman hold doors for me. Simple.
“I believe in equal opportunity and think women should be paid that same as men for the same job and all that.” – Hate to be the one to tell you, but you essentially defined feminism: it’s the struggle for equal pay for equal work; and for equal opportunity. So what’s so destructive about that? And you say you believe in these things, but are against feminism. Sorry, you can’t have it both ways.
“…my wife is a day carer.She has worked with many women who say that it is a disgrace allowing men to work in the industry because it’s dangerous.” OK. So the thinking of a handful of your wives co-workers represents all feminists? Or the views of all women? By the way, I have worked for many years providing services to people with disabilities along side men and woman. We took care of adults and children of both genders. I doubt that most logical, thinking people would have any problem with that.
“This assumes that all men are filthy pedophiles. This is a direct result of feminism.” – Too funny! How exactly does the closed minded attitude of these “day carers” have any connection to women seeking equality?
“If men had breasts we would wear a bra and wouldn’t complain about having to.” – I have no words for this… no words…
“how the fuck is burning a bra empowering? Dumbasses!” – From my previous comment @Moonbeam (210): , I wrote: “You ask how getting rid of bras would be a feminist statement; woman were trying to fight against conforming to society’s standard of beauty.Many of the protests were held at beauty pageants (Which is a whole separate issue. It’s so bizarre to me to think that holding a contest to decide who is the most beautiful could possibly be a good idea. It seems so degrading to line them up like soup cans and pick the “best one.”) One issue woman had was that bras changed the natural shape of the body in order to look the way society thought was pleasing in the style of the time – as in the “bullet bras” of the ’50’s. Today’s version is the push up padded bras like Victoria’s Secret; or surgical implants used in order to alter woman in order to conform to what currently is considered sexually appealing. So much for “you’ve come a long way, baby.”
“So stop being a man-hating lesbo.” – *shakes head sadly* Mmmmm-Kay. First of all Any one seeking fair treatment for women is man hating? And I’ll never cease to be amazed at what being straight or homosexual has anything what-so-ever to do with the fight for human rights.
But I do want to thank you for the good laugh.
254 suzi
January 30th, 2010 at 9:18 pm
An extremely disappointing list on so many levels. It’s disturbing how free JF is with his biases now that he has established his cult following.
255 Beany
January 30th, 2010 at 9:28 pm
I think it’s better not to put a stereotype on all cats. XD
Depending on the species of cat you are talking about, they will love or hate water. There are cats like the Manx and the Japanese Bobtail who love to play in water, and cats who run away if a single drop spills on them.
The people who talk about accounts of cats who love water are talking about species of cats who love water. The people who have cats who hate water, yes those species of cats hate water.
Of course, it doesn’t have to be the species or the ancestors that determine whether a cat loves or hates water. Cats are their own individuals, too. So different cats will have varying opinions on water.
256 Cyrus
January 30th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Regarding the speed of light…as it was explained to me, the speed of light DOES change based on its medium (water, air, vacuum, etc.), but that’s it. For instance, if you are in a car going 60mph and through a ball at what appears to you to be 10mph, the ball actually goes 70mph. But the speed of light wouldn’t change. If you shine a flashlight in the same car, it goes 300,000kps (klicks per second) whether the car is going down the highway or parked.
257 Chris
January 30th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
It really amazes me how many people come to this site to complain. If you don’t like the lists then why are you coming here and reading them? It’s like buying tickets to a Korn concert and complaining that they’re too loud.
258 Charlotte
January 30th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
Chris @ 229 – I’d like to buy some of these sunglasses.
259 Talim
January 30th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
All of you stop overreacting. It’s just a list. On to the cat not liking water thing- many cats love water. In fact there’s a special type that does. And they don’t hate water itself, if they dislike it at all they probably just don’t want to be wet.
260 Maximuz04
January 30th, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Interesting Fact, UCLA is not in LA, it is in westwood california. Some of us who dont go there often called it UCWW
261 porkido
January 30th, 2010 at 11:03 pm
“Sake was originally made in China and it is more a rice beer than a rice wine. Its main ingredients are rice, water, and yeast which, like beer, causes fermentation that produces alcohol.”
Can’t wade through 200+ comments, but in case no one mentioned it, wine is also the product of yeast fermentation…so I’m not sure how it’s more like beer.
262 porkido
January 30th, 2010 at 11:06 pm
“Hair products (like shampoo, and conditioner) are mostly useless.”
Can’t wade through 200+ comments, but shampoo doesn’t wash the grease and dirt out of your hair?
263 Maximuz04
January 30th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
@Cyrus (254):
Yes you are correct, while there is relative motion with things moving at slow speeds… if two things are going near the speed of light at each other, they are STILL NOT breaking the speed of light relative to one of them. It is kind of weird but here is there time dilation takes place
264 Anonymous
January 30th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
This list is awful. It has bad grammar, bad spelling, and most of these facts are false. Sadly it is not unlike the other lists on this site.
265 Mrs. Antichrist
January 31st, 2010 at 12:16 am
I don’t know why everyone is whining about the bra comment, when it was clearly meant as a joke (albeit an unfunny one) & nothing more. My problem with this and everyone other JFrater factlet list is that many of the entries are either riddled with inaccuracies or completely false. A few examples from this list:
11: While it is true that shampoos and conditions don’t do all of the things their makers claim they do, they are not entirely useless. Shampoo helps eliminate dirt and excess oil, which stops itching and irritation on the scalp. Conditioner adds shine and moisture to hair, which makes it look much nicer. Plus, both make hair smell nice. Most of what these products do is cosmetic, but they certainly aren’t useless.
17: It didn’t happen often at major protests, but there were smaller groups that did burn their bras. My late Aunt was part of one of them.
18: Cats, especially kittens, are fascinated by running water and might bat at it with their paws, but the majority hate being submerged in water. Every single cat I’ve owned has despised water, as have most of the cats I’ve met over the years. You can ‘train’ (I use the word loosely, since it’s impossible to truly train a cat to do anything) a cat in order to bathe them and Bengal cats are noted for actually liking water, however.
Many dogs dislike water too, but they tend to tolerate it better than cats do (which is probably due to dogs being less likely to protest when their owners do something they dislike; cats don’t put up with much crap).
19: These findings have been contested by other researchers. Truth is, no one can be 100% certain if the speed of light is constant.
266 frostybabygurl
January 31st, 2010 at 5:52 am
Great list! I love random facts
267 ocdtetris
January 31st, 2010 at 2:19 pm
Another amazing list, thanks for providing us with fantastic facts. Where do you find them all?
268 Chris
January 31st, 2010 at 2:33 pm
Granted that bras aren’t needed for breast health but it doesn’t change the fact that this is the intention the designers of them had. Just because they may not provide breast health does not mean they weren’t designed for it. Whichever argument you have for it still won’t mean that the evil male is responsible for shackling women to the horrible bra.
What the hell is wrong with wearing a bra anyway. I used to wear boxer shorts and now I don’t because they provided no support for my junglies. I didn’t blame women for having to wear Y-fronts.
269 zerohundred
January 31st, 2010 at 3:20 pm
17: “Thousands of feminists from the ’60s are today regretting their bra burning due to their boobs now hanging below their knees.”
Not true! I heard from howstuffworks.com that there is absolutely no medical or physiological reason for women to wear bras. Not wearing one won’t cause your breasts to sag–that fine job is left to gravity and time. Just look up “are bras necessary” on the internet and you’ll see what I mean.
Otherwise interesting list!
270 James
January 31st, 2010 at 4:14 pm
you’ve obviously never tried to bathe a cat….
271 Rosie
January 31st, 2010 at 5:20 pm
I’m sad to see just how many fuckheads comment on listverse these days.
Jamie – you’re fabulous. Don’t stop speaking your mind and writing your lists.
Detractors – I hope you have ass sex with a heavily splintered wooden softball bat.
272 Zarquon
January 31st, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Couple of interesting things, but a couple of mistakes too.
Light going faster than the speed of light (in vacuum)? Source please?
And as many have pointed out before me, there is no evidence that not wearing a bra causes breasts to sag more. In fact, some scientist believe that not wearing a bra causes the breasts to become more firm since they need to produce more support tissue
On a different note: isn’t it kind of funny that both (stereotypical) feminists and men don’t want women to wear bras, but that feminists find men not wanting women to wear bras sexist :p
273 Zarquon
January 31st, 2010 at 5:49 pm
Also, while the speed of light c is a constant at any given time throughout the universe, there is a growing belief that some physical constants (including c) change over time, so that the value of c might be different tomorrow than it is today (but still constant throughout the universe)
274 Ham
January 31st, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Yeah, some of this list is bullshit. Shampoo isn’t useless because it doesn’t improve the health of hair, its use is CLEANING hair, I’ve known more cats to hate water than like it, and the whole lobsters feel no pain is utter shite.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/03/27/crab-lobster-pain.html
Factlets my ass
275 nuriko
January 31st, 2010 at 6:31 pm
uhm…
276 platypus
January 31st, 2010 at 6:47 pm
Were you drunk when you wrote this? Some of these things are so inaccurate that they’re offensive
277 Iakhovas
January 31st, 2010 at 7:59 pm
OK, leet’s just say that the majority of cats do not like water, but there are many exceptions to the rule? Does everyone feel better now?
And JFray, loved the pot shot at militant feminism. I can’t believe how many people took that so literally!
People, I don’t think he was attacking women or feminists in general. Just having a stab at those man-hating butch dykes that think the world would be filled with pixies and rainbows if men didn’t exist, and believe that the mere existance of men is the net cause of all their lifes problems and failures.
278 Anonymous
January 31st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
17. “Bra burning did not happen… Thousands of feminists from the ’60s are today regretting their bra burning due to their boobs now hanging below their knees.”
^^^Self-contradiction.
NB: Bra burning was mentioned in last week’s Sex episode of The British Family on BBC.
279 Sunny
January 31st, 2010 at 11:09 pm
RE: #13 – It’s true that the noise a person hears when boiling a lobster is air escaping, not screaming, but lack of noise does NOT mean that they don’t feel pain.
You could potentially argue that lobsters MIGHT not have the capacity to feel pain, but studies have indicated otherwise and so it’s in no way a “fact”.
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Review by the Scottish animal rights group Advocate for Animals released the same year reported that “scientific evidence … strongly suggests that there is a potential for [lobsters] to experience pain and suffering,” primarily because lobsters (and other decapod crustaceans) “have opioid receptors and respond to opioids (analgesics such as … See Moremorphine) in a similar way to vertebrates,” indicating that lobsters’ reaction to injury changes in the presence of painkillers. The similarities in lobsters’ and vertebrates’ stress systems and behavioral responses to noxious stimuli were given as additional evidence.
A 2007 study at Queen’s University, Belfast, suggested that crustaceans do feel pain. In the experiment, when prawn antennae were rubbed with sodium hydroxide or acetic acid, the animals showed increased grooming of the afflicted area and rubbed it more against the side of the tank. Moreover, this reaction was inhibited by a local anesthetic, even though control prawns treated with only anesthetic did not show reduced activity. Professor Robert Elwood, who headed the study, argues that sensing pain is crucial to prawn survival, because it encourages them to avoid damaging behaviors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster#Capacity_for_pain
280 mel
February 1st, 2010 at 12:42 am
Dear JFrater – I have been following your blog for quite some time and have found it quite enjoyable and entertaining most of the the time. Recently, however,I guess since the “Mass Murder” list,I have become a bit disinterested in your topics and untrustworthy of your knowledge of certain topics. That sucks because I have been a fan of Listverse for a long time. A holiday away from your blog might be nice. Because we all know that time away from our daily routine is good for all of us. Thank you for all of your hard work all of these years.
281 donald
February 1st, 2010 at 1:19 am
@ TheRose 218
“FYI, breasts get saggy because of something called GRAVITY, not because there are no bras holding them up.”
And…bras counterbalance the gravity thats pulling the saggy boobs down…so…no bras would make it saggy…
282 donald
February 1st, 2010 at 1:26 am
@ Chris 251
Wow, thanks, for once in my life I hear someone who shares the same views as me. feminists want to be paid equal but they also want to be pampered! Its like they want all the advantages of being a guy but want special treatment against men. they would expect to get paid the same as men even if they put out less work.
283 Fizzbin
February 1st, 2010 at 1:46 am
Slight correction to Factlet 12 – the Ġgantija temples are not actually on Malta itself, but in factlet the island of Gozo, a small island just to the north west of Malta.
284 segues
February 1st, 2010 at 2:10 am
As for the “feminists” and not wearing bras.
Some of us are now, and have been always, just too slender to make the wearing of one a matter of need. For those of us so lucky, it is a matter of desire at any particular time with any particular outfit.
And, btw, I smell a new source of decay on LV. Who, in their right mind, introduces themselves by making sweeping generalizations about several of the older members of the group (by older, I mean those who have been around the longest).
Idiots of the world stand and cheer! A new member has identified itself!
285 deeeziner
February 1st, 2010 at 2:35 am
@segues (284): “And, btw, I smell a new source of decay on LV. Who, in their right mind, introduces themselves by making sweeping generalizations about several of the older members of the group (by older, I mean those who have been around the longest).
Idiots of the world stand and cheer! A new member has identified itself!”
Did I miss something?! Do share…:)
286 Gus
February 1st, 2010 at 6:47 am
Yo #17 had me rolling and I agree Pati she seems to be one of those angry femenist… Lighten up Pati there are docs out there that do a great job a nice lift job.
287 Breaker
February 1st, 2010 at 7:06 am
Reading the comments offends me more than anything in the list.
I was a little surprised when I noticed this was actually a list by Jfrater, usually his lists are more correct and … please people more. Ah well, we all have our rough patches.
288 Cassia
February 1st, 2010 at 7:32 am
Again #18 personal comment: my cat has never been squirted with water to deter him from doing anything bad. He loves the sound of water, will lick the sink and tub after use…but he will not get wet if he can help it!
Also, the sagging boobs comment was awkward. It doesn’t mean I’m without a sense of humor (or irony)…but still mocking people who were demonstrating inequality just didn’t work out. And anyone (even males) get saggy chests…regardless of bra usage or sex.
289 Home
February 2nd, 2010 at 1:36 am
#286 Gus, your a fucking moron
290 MamaBear2Cubs
February 2nd, 2010 at 2:13 am
I’m sure this has been pointed out a few times in the comments above but 300 is alot to go through..
Saying shampoo & conditioner are useless is BULLSHIT, shampoo is pretty useful to me because I don’t particularly care for skanky greasy hair, and conditioner is an excellent detangler and then some. Ratty hair is just no good. Saying it can merely add shine and color, well what’s so useless about that? Shiny hair rocks! I enjoyed this list and I *heart* LV in general, but I think a little more research could have been done on this paticular subject because from what I’ve gathered shampoo & conditioner has alot more benefits than just added shine & color. Granted I see your point that hair is dead and how does one make a dead object “healthier”, it’s MAD SCIENCE I SAY! But not all hair products are marketed to improve the health of hair, infact mine reduces frizz,smoothes, and *surprise* helps add shine. Don’t get me wrong I did very much enjoy thid list but come on? Since shampoo & conditioner are an essential part of modern hygiene.
291 Chris
February 2nd, 2010 at 3:24 am
MamaBear2Cubs I agree with you that shampoo is necessary to not look like a hobo. Although hair is dead it can still be improved, not by making it healthier but by keeping moisture in and such. Being dead tissue it makes sense that it needs more external care than something that is living.
My hair care regime is quite a simple one. I just shave it off with a number one on my hair clippers. Then all I have to do is scrub and exfoliate my scalp with showever gel and rub on a bit of vitamin E cream.
292 Angharad
February 2nd, 2010 at 8:01 pm
My favorite part was the misogynistic comment about breasts! A+.
293 Jags
February 2nd, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Hang on guys,
surely we of the listverse will not fall into the trap of judging quality by just looking at what is in front of us and not considering the whole product of Mr Fraters work.
to use an example, there was an ongoing debate about wether the australian cricket captain should have kept his position on the team after having two bad bays at the office. in the next series of matches he went on to guide the team to a crushing victory (5-0 match whitewash)
how about we move on to the next list and allow Mr Frater to get back to work.
294 ericKarthik
February 3rd, 2010 at 11:45 am
Speed of light thingy…….thats Bose-Einstein condensate – 5th state of matter. its done with temp very close to absolute zero.
interesting things happen at that temp.
295 Voltaire
February 4th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Nice list but two things are pretty wrong:
11) It’s true that your hair is ‘dead’ but so are the superficial layers of your skin. So why do you use soap on your dead skin?!
Shampoo is like soap – only for hair. Have you ever tried no to use any soap/shampoo? Shampoo removes the right amount of oils, dirt and skin particles from your hair. A conditioner increases the ease of combing and styling. Nothing more.
13) Lobsters must feel some kind of ‘pain’ and maybe even temperature. Otherwise they would never know what’s dangerous for them. I still don’t think it’s cruel to boil them. If they felt something, it would be a shock for them. Which is good, because then they don’t really recognize the boiling water. And a few seconds later they are dead anyway.
296 Voltaire
February 4th, 2010 at 1:59 pm
“Thousands of feminists from the ’60s are today regretting their bra burning due to their boobs now hanging below their knees.”
This was actually funny.
297 Kekimonster
February 4th, 2010 at 9:54 pm
Yes, you can alter the speed of light. What Einstein meant by light having constant speed is that light has constant speed in every frame of reference. Even if you’re running away from a light source, you’ll still “see” the light come to you at a constant speed.
298 ann 379
February 5th, 2010 at 5:27 am
im from malta!! im so glad you mentioned it in one of your lists!! hehe made my day thnx
299 archangel
February 6th, 2010 at 8:02 am
OMG… barbie was a slut-machine!
300 Fireplace Embassy
February 7th, 2010 at 9:34 am
On number seven, I read “balloon bombs” as ‘baboon bombs’. I’m disappointed they’re not actually explosives strapped to the back of a baboon.
301 Tom
February 8th, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Whether or not you’ve had a physics background, there’s one rule about the speed of light that you can definitely understand. Simply put: Light traveling through empty space travels at a certain speed. It doesn’t matter that light travels slower in water, glass, etc. It doesn’t matter that the speed itself might be slowly changing over time.
The simple fact is: No message can be transmitted between two people in less time than it would take a beam of light to travel the same distance in empty space.
So, as for the amazing accomplishments you read about…
Slowing down or stopping light: Nothing prevents you from slowing down light, up to a point. The simplest example is light traveling through glass or water. Quantum effects make it impossible to really stop light. Experimentalists can slow it down to incredibly slow speeds, and even to some extent “stop” individual photons (light particles) using clever setups involving Bose-Einstein Condensates.
Things going faster than light: See above. Light can and often does travel below the speed limit. This is nothing special. Anything that moves faster than light is only able to do so because the light is moving below the speed limit. Think of it this way: a Honda can drive faster than a Ferrari if the Ferrari is driving through molasses. Untrap the Ferrari, and the Honda has no chance. For a really cool example of this, Google “Cerenkov Radiation”– it’s that weird blue glow you see in pictures of nuclear reactors. They release super high energy particles that travel faster in air or water than light does– though they always travel slower than light WOULD travel in empty space.
Finally: Anything at all (usually light) traveling faster than “the speed of light,” that unbeatable speed limit. These ones sound really impressive. THIS is what the fact on the list was about. From a technical perspective (i.e. being able to set up and run the experiment), yes their work is impressive. But from a scientific experiment, it’s boring. Basically, the pulse of light that shot backwards couldn’t accomplish anything; it couldn’t transmit any useful message. A very common misconception with relativity is that “nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.” This is wrong. No information can travel faster than the speed of light, as I wrote above. Here’s a really simple (and famous) example. Suppose I have an incredibly big movie projector and everything is blown up on a 100 foot screen. When I move my finger across the 5 inch lens in 1 second, everyone in the audience sees the shadow move across 100 feet in 1 second. Now imagine making the screen absolutely enormous. By making it bigger and bigger, I can make my finger’s shadow move much faster than the speed of light. And everyone in the (very very large) audience will see this and (taking into account the time light takes to get from the screen to their eyes) they will all agree that my shadow moved faster than the speed of light. This isn’t a problem at all! Why? Because I can’t use my shadow to send a message from me, at the projector, to the audience members at that speed. Light has to move from the projector to the screen and then to their eyes. Even if I prearrange a signal to them (e.g. “When you see the shadow move, fire your gun!”) they will not be able to receive the signal any faster than if I had just told them “when you see me flash my light at you, fire your gun!”
Backing up from this, there’s a simple message: You can only make things (messages) move faster than light if you make them waste time first; then they can catch up, but they won’t be able to beat the direct path. So to use the example from the list, yes the backwards pulse was able to travel back to them faster than light, but only because they had sent it out from that point to the other end of the tube already. They gained no information. (YES that is an oversimplification, but it’s close enough.)
Anyone who brings up quantum entanglement, I repeat the emphasis that no physically useful information can be extracted; just information that is consistent with our mathematical theory.
Disclaimer: General relativity (gravity, black holes, etc.) actually provides the only contradiction to the above statement. The “cheat” is that near very heavy objects, you can travel on a different path from a lightbeam. Back to the Honda/Ferrari example, the Honda can beat the Ferrari if it cuts across the diagonal while the Ferrari stays on the track. This does in fact mean that time travel to the past is theoretically possible and consistent with the laws of physics. For a very readable introduction to this, check out Time Travel in Einstein’s Universe, a book by a Princeton University faculty member named John Gott. This of course means that the laws of physics are a lot more interesting than we thought…
302 stillkickin
February 9th, 2010 at 1:06 am
#14 can also be called Ehlers-Danlos, hyper-mobility type. Depending on the person, this could have little effect on his or her life, or at the opposite end of the spectrum, it could force him or her to be in a wheelchair since walking would cause dislocations of the joints.
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304 Josh
February 14th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Lobsters (and most crustaceans) do actually feel pain. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29915025/ I feel that you should correct that, as it is wrong. Otherwise great list!
While you are correct in what the “scream” is, they still feel the pain.
305 Roy Sipel
February 15th, 2010 at 12:23 am
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306 Denzell
February 17th, 2010 at 6:10 am
@Josh (304): I’m starting to feel sorry for crabs being boiled alive to be feasted on by crab-eating man.
307 Charlotte
February 21st, 2010 at 10:56 am
This list is only what you believe to be facts. Jane Fonda did in fact burn her bra. Don’t mislead people. She had followers, therefore a movement.
308 Sega
March 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm
cool list
309 tahrey
April 28th, 2010 at 2:34 am
Wow. Mostly cool, but… #5… you fail human biophysiology forever.
You don’t exercise but keep eating the same, you lose muscle mass, and gain fat. The actual muscle cells don’t turn into fat ones, but the balance does change, and that’s what the phrase refers to.
310 inismor
May 6th, 2010 at 3:11 am
Uh… I don’t think Einstein ever stated that light speed is constant: according to Maxwell equations, it is a result of a formula involving two parameters of the medium wich the light travels in: therefore, it is constant for two observers (in the same medium) REGARDLESS of their relative movement. (That’s what I think Doc E. stated).
311 sisterjanet
June 26th, 2010 at 7:13 am
Erm, just because hair is dead does not make shampoo and conditioner useless. Many a lay person misunderstands the use of them, but lets set the record straight shall we.
Shampoo – our scalp produces oils which distribute themselves along the hair shaft. A build up of these natural oils makes the hair flat and dull. A build up of styling products has the same effect. Shampoo removes the build up of oils and product.
Conditioner – Freshly shampooed hair is dry and rough feeling. Conditioner gives the hair a thin temporary coating which makes it feel soft and look shiny. As hair is indeed dead, it can be bamaged fairly easily and once damaged can not be repaired. Good quality conditioners halp to protect hair from damage to keep it looking healthy as long as possible.
These are the facts.