World attention is right now focused on the Gulf Coast of the United States, where one of the worst industrial disasters of all time is slowing playing itself out. The Deepwater Horizon oil platform explosion and sinking killed 11 workers, but it is the massive environmental disaster caused by the leaking of hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico that is making it probably the worst industrial environmental disaster in US history.
Industrial disasters are a unique post-industrial age creation of man. Industrial disasters have killed untold thousands of people since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Many were avoidable, and needless disasters caused by callous disregard for human safety in an unending quest for money. Others were unforeseen and accidental.
This list focuses on American industrial disasters since the post World War II era. But as we will see, recent industrial disasters such as the 2007 I-35 West Mississippi bridge collapse (13 killed, 145 injured), the 2006 Sago mine disaster (12 killed), 2010 Upper Big Branch mine explosion (29 killed), 2007 Crandall Canyon mine cave in (9 killed), 2008 Kingston Fossil Plant collapse (a huge environmental disaster caused by the largest coal slurry fly ash release in US history), 2008 New York City crane collapse (7 killed) and now the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil platform explosion ( 11 killed) are nothing new. Similar disasters have played themselves out, here in the USA, over the last 65 years and, like the Deepwater Horizon disaster, there appears to be no end in sight to the death and destruction caused by these catastrophes. Let’s take a look back at ten of the worst industrial disasters since 1945.
This Silver Bridge was a suspension bridge built in 1928 and named for the color of its aluminum paint. The bridge connected Point Pleasant, West Virginia and Kanauga, Ohio, over the Ohio River. On December 15, 1967, the Silver Bridge collapsed while it was full of rush-hour traffic, resulting in the deaths of 46 people. Two of the victims were never found. Investigation of the wreckage pointed to the cause of the collapse being the failure of a single eye bar in a suspension chain, due to a small defect 0.1 inch (2.5 mm) deep. Analysis showed that the bridge was carrying much heavier loads than it had originally been designed for and had been poorly maintained. The collapsed bridge was replaced by the Silver Memorial Bridge, which was completed in 1969.
In March 25, 1947, the Centralia No. 5 coal mine exploded near the town of Centralia, Illinois, killing 111 people. The explosion was caused when an under burdened explosive detonation ignited coal dust. At the time of the explosion, 142 men were in the mine; 111 miners were killed by burns and other injuries. Only 31 miners escaped. Following the disaster, John L. Lewis, president of the United Mine Workers, called a two-week national memorial work stoppage on 400,000 soft-coal miners. Lewis also blamed the then Secretary of the Interior, Julius Krug, for the men’s deaths because he felt the Department of the Interior was not adequately enforcing new and stricter mine safety rules which had been enacted only a year earlier. Lewis called for Krug’s resignation, but President Harry Truman, who regarded the mourning strike as a sham, rejected this demand.
The disaster did force Congress to address mine safety. In August 1947, Congress passed a joint resolution calling on the Bureau of Mines to inspect coalmines and to report to state regulatory agencies any violations of the federal code. American folksinger Woody Guthrie wrote and recorded a song about the Centralia mine disaster entitled The Dying Miner.
The following year, 1948, a different type of industrial disaster struck the United States, this one invisible, but no less deadly than the explosion in Centralia in1947. The Donora Smog was an historic air inversion pall of smog that killed 20 and sickened 7,000 people in Donora, Pennsylvania, a mill town on the Monongahela River, 24 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.
The smog first rolled into Donora on October 27, 1948. By the following day it was causing coughing and other signs of respiratory distress for many residents. Many of the illnesses and deaths were initially attributed to asthma. The smog continued until it rained on October 31, by which time 20 residents of Donora had died and approximately a third to one half of the town’s population of 14,000 residents had been sickened. Even ten years after the incident, mortality rates in Donora were significantly higher than those in other communities nearby.
Sulfur dioxide emissions from U.S. Steel’s Donora Zinc Works and its American Steel & Wire plant were frequent occurrences in Donora. What made the 1948 event more severe was a temperature inversion, in which a mass of warm, stagnant air was trapped in the valley, the pollutants in the air mixing with fog to form a thick, yellowish, acrid smog that hung over Donora for five days. The sulfuric acid, nitrogen dioxide, fluorine and other poisonous gases that usually dispersed into the atmosphere were caught in the inversion and accumulated until the rain ended the weather pattern.
It was not until Sunday morning the 31st of October that a meeting occurred between the operators of the plants, and the town officials. The plants were shut down until the rain came, whereupon the plants resumed normal operation. A study released in December 1948 showed that thousands more Donora residents could have been killed if the smog had lasted any longer than it had.
U.S. Steel never acknowledged responsibility for the incident, calling it “an act of God”. The Donora Smog is often credited for helping to trigger the clean-air movement in the United States, whose crowning achievement was the Clean Air Act of 1970, which required the United States Environmental Protection Agency to develop and enforce regulations to protect the general public from exposure to hazardous airborne contaminants.
The Buffalo Creek Flood was a disaster that occurred on February 26, 1972, when the Pittston Coal Company’s coal slurry impoundment dam #3, located on a hillside in Logan County, West Virginia burst four days after having been declared ‘satisfactory’ by a federal mine inspector.
The resulting flood unleashed approximately 132 million gallons of black wastewater. The flow created a wave of black coal ash muck, which crested at over 30 feet high and ran down upon the residents of 16 coal-mining hamlets in Buffalo Creek Hollow. Out of a population of 5,000 people, 125 were killed, 1,121 were injured, and over 4,000 were left homeless. 507 houses were destroyed, in addition to forty-four mobile homes and 30 businesses. The disaster also destroyed or damaged homes in six surrounding towns. In its legal filings, Pittston Coal referred to the accident as “an Act of God.”
Dam #3, constructed of coarse mining refuse dumped into the Middle Fork of Buffalo Creek starting in 1968, failed first, following heavy rains. The water from Dam #3 then overwhelmed Dams #2 and #1. Dam #3 had been built on top of coal slurry sediment that had collected behind dams # 1 and #2, instead of on solid bedrock. Dam #3 was approximately 260 feet above the town of Saunders when it failed.
The Willow Island disaster was the collapse of a cooling tower under construction at a power station at Willow Island, West Virginia, on Thursday April 27th 1978. Falling concrete caused the scaffolding to collapse. 51 construction workers were killed. It is thought to be the largest construction accident in American history. The disaster occurred when the Allegheny Power System was building a new power plant with two giant natural draft cooling towers. The usual method of scaffold construction for building large cooling towers has the base of the scaffold built on the ground, with the top being built higher to keep up with the height of the tower.
This scaffolding was different. It was bolted to the structure as it was being built. A layer of concrete was poured, then after the concrete forms were removed the scaffolding was raised and bolted onto the new section. On April 27th 1978 tower number 2 had reached a height of 166 feet Just after 10 AM, as the third lift of concrete was being raised, the cable hoisting that bucket of concrete went slack. The crane that was pulling it up fell toward the inside of the tower. The previous day’s concrete, Lift 28, started to collapse. Concrete began to unwrap from the top of the tower, first peeling counter-clockwise, then in both directions. A jumble of concrete, wooden forms and metal scaffolding fell into the hollow center of the tower. Fifty-one construction workers were on the scaffold at the time. All fell to their deaths.
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) investigation showed that, like most disasters, it was a series of errors, short cuts and accidents that triggered the event. Scaffold was attached to concrete that hadn’t had time to sufficiently cure. Bolts were missing and the existing bolts were of insufficient grade. There was only one access ladder, restricting ability to escape. An elaborate concrete hoisting system was modified without proper engineering review. And as is almost always seems to be the case, contractors were rushing to speed construction
The second major construction project industrial disaster to make this list occurred nine years later. The L’Ambiance Plaza was a 16-story residential project under construction in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Its partially erect frame completely collapsed on April 23, 1987, killing 28 construction workers. Failure was possibly due to high stresses placed on the floor slabs by the lift slab technique. There was a school of thought that this accident highlighted the deficiencies of lift slab construction. This accident prompted a major nationwide federal investigation into this construction technique, as well as a temporary moratorium of its use in Connecticut. L’Ambiance Plaza was planned to be a sixteen-story building with thirteen apartment levels topping three parking levels. It consisted of two offset rectangular towers, 63 ft by 112 ft each, connected by an elevator.
At the time of collapse, the building was a little more than halfway completed. In the west tower, the ninth, tenth, and eleventh floor slab package was parked in stage IV directly under the twelfth floor and roof package. The shear walls were about five levels below the lifted slabs. The workmen were tack welding wedges under the ninth, tenth, and eleventh floor package to temporarily hold them into position when they heard a loud metallic sound followed by rumbling. An ironworker who was installing wedges at the time, looked up to see the slab over him “cracking like ice breaking.” Suddenly, the slab fell on to the slab below it, which was unable to support this added weight and in turn fell.
The entire structure collapsed, first the west tower and then the east tower, in 5 seconds, only 2.5 seconds longer than it would have taken an object to free fall from that height. Two days of frantic rescue operations revealed that 28 construction workers died in the collapse, making it the worst lift-slab construction accident.
The explosion at the Imperial Sugar refinery was an industrial disaster that occurred on February 7, 2008 in Port Wentworth, Georgia. Thirteen people were killed and 42 injured when a dust explosion occurred at a sugar refinery owned by Imperial Sugar. Dust explosions had been an issue of concern amongst United States authorities since three fatal accidents in 2003, with efforts made to improve safety and reduce the risk of recurrence. However, a safety board had criticized this as inadequate.
The sugar refinery was a four-story structure on the bank of the Savannah River and was the second largest in the US. Workers described the factory as antiquated, with much of the machinery dating back more than 28 years, but say the site was kept in operation because it had good access to rail and shipping links for transport. At one time the facility refined 9% of the nation’s sugar requirements. The explosion occurred at 7:00 p.m. local time in what was initially believed to be a room where sugar was bagged by workers. There were 112 employees on-site at the time. Most of the victims were seriously burned, with ages ranging from 18 to 50.
By February 14, 2008, the worst of the fire had been extinguished but the 100-foot sugar storage silos remained alight despite attempts to put the fire out. The smoldering, molten sugar in the silos was unlike anything most fire fighters had ever experienced. It is believed that the factory’s outdated construction materials and methods contributed to the severity of the blaze. The ceiling was of wooden tongue and groove design, and creosote used throughout was known as “fat lighter” because of the fire risk it posed. As a result of the disaster new safety legislation has been proposed, while the local economy has slumped because the factory remains offline, although Imperial intends to rebuild.
On March 23, 2005, a fire and explosion occurred at BP’s Texas City Refinery in Texas City, Texas, killing 15 workers and injuring more than 170 others. BP was charged with violating federal environment crime laws and has been subject to lawsuits from the victim’s families. Later, an $87 million fine was imposed by the US Occupational Safety and Health Administration, which claimed that BP had failed to implement safety improvements following the disaster.
The Texas City Refinery is the second-largest oil refinery in the state and the third largest in the United States. The explosion occurred in a unit where light and heavy gasoline components were being separated, and octane was being added. Due to operator error, gasoline was forced in to a pressure release system called a blow down drum. The pressure was too much and overwhelmed it, resulting in liquids spilling out and accumulating on the ground, which created a highly flammable and combustible vapor cloud. The hydrocarbon vapor cloud was then ignited by a nearby contractor’s pickup truck. The report identified numerous failings in equipment, risk management, staff management, working culture at the site, maintenance and inspection and general health and safety assessments.
An independent panel to investigate the safety culture and management systems at BP North America was set up and led by former US Secretary of State, James Baker III. The Baker panel report was released on January 16, 2007. The principal finding was that BP management had not distinguished between “occupational safety” (i.e. slips-trips-and-falls, driving safety, etc.) vs. “process safety” (i.e. design for safety, hazard analysis, material verification, equipment maintenance, process upset reporting, etc.). BP confused improving trends in occupational safety statistics for a general improvement in all types of safety. BP also decided against replacing the antiquated blow down system with a more modern (and expensive) system that would not have allowed the excess gasoline to flow out and onto the ground and would have prevented the explosion.
The BP refinery explosion was hardly the worst industrial disaster to strike this town or state. The year 1947 was a very bad year for industrial disasters. Only three weeks after the Centralia Mining Disaster, on April 16, 1947, a fire started on board the French-registered vessel SS Grandcamp in the Port of Texas City, Texas. The fire detonated approximately 2,300 tons of ammonium nitrate and the resulting chain reaction of fires and explosions killed at least 581 people.
The SS High Flyer was another ship in the harbor at the time, about 600 feet away from the SS Grandcamp. The High Flyer contained an additional 961 tons of ammonium nitrate and 1,800 tons of sulfur. The ammonium nitrate in the two ships and in the adjacent warehouse was fertilizer on its way to farmers in Europe. Around 08:10, smoke was spotted in the cargo hold of the Grandcamp. Attempts to control the fire failed.
Shortly before 9:00 AM, the Captain ordered his men to steam the hold, a firefighting method where steam is piped in to put out fires in the hope of preserving the cargo. Meanwhile, the fire had attracted a crowd of spectators along the shoreline, who believed they were a safe distance away. Spectators noted that the water around the ship was already boiling from the heat, an indication of runaway chemical reactions. The cargo hold and deck began to bulge as the forces increased inside.
At 09:12, the ammonium nitrate inside the vessel detonated. The tremendous blast sent a 15-foot wave that was detectable over nearly 100 miles of the Texas shoreline. The Grandcamp explosion destroyed the Monsanto Chemical Company plant and resulted in ignition of refineries and chemical tanks on the waterfront. The force of the explosion was so great that sightseeing airplanes flying nearby had their wings shorn off. People felt the shock 250 miles away in Louisiana. The entire volunteer fire department of Texas City was killed in the initial explosion.
But the disaster was not over. The first explosion ignited ammonium nitrate cargo in the High Flyer. The crews attempted to save the ship and failing that, tried to move it out of the harbor but about fifteen hours after the explosions aboard the Grandcamp, the High Flyer blew up killing at least two more people and increasing the damage to the port and other ships.
The Texas City Disaster is generally considered the worst industrial accident in American history. Witnesses compared the scene to the devastation at Nagasaki. The official death toll was 581. Of the dead 63 were never identified. A remaining 113 people were classified as missing, for no identifiable parts were ever found. There is some speculation that there may have been hundreds more killed but uncounted, including visiting seamen, non-census laborers and their families, and an untold number of travelers.
Over 5,000 people were injured, with 1,784 admitted to twenty-one area hospitals. More than 500 homes were destroyed and hundreds damaged, leaving 2,000 homeless. The seaport was destroyed – the property damage was estimated at $100 million. A 2-ton anchor of Grandcamp was hurled 1.62 miles and found in a 10-foot crater. It now rests in a memorial park
Vermiculite, an ore found in the area of Libby Montana in 1881, had been mined since 1919 and sold under the brand name Zonolite. Vermiculite is a mineral that was used mostly as an insulator in homes and is also an additive in potting soil (the bright sparkly stuff you see mixed in with the brown and black soil). The problem was, the vermiculite was contaminated with asbestos and this had been widely known by the company for many years, even prior to W. R. Grace and Company’s purchase of the Zonolite mine in 1963.
In 1999, the Seattle Post-Intellingencer published a series of articles documenting extensive deaths and illness from the asbestos contaminated vermiculite at the mine. These deaths and illnesses from asbestos exposure were not simply workers but also people living in the town of Libby, people who had never worked a day at the plant. This was very unusual as most victims of asbestos exposure actually work with the material in plants, mines, or ships, and perhaps bring the asbestos dust home to their family members on their clothing. But in Libby, people were becoming ill and dying of asbestosis and mesothelioma (diseases caused only by asbestos exposure) who never stepped foot inside the mine or plant, and had no relative who ever worked there. Finding cases of asbestosis (which requires repeated, long term exposures to asbestos over many years) in people with no known industrial exposure was unheard of, until the asbestos-contaminated vermiculite disaster in Libby Montana came to light.
As it turns out, the mine owners knew that the vermiculite ore that came out of the Libby mine was contaminated with a form of asbestos called tremolite – an especially deadly form of asbestos. They also knew there was no way they could remove the asbestos contamination from the vermiculite ore they were mining and processing in Libby, and shipping out by rail car to scores of other processing plants and manufacturers who used the vermiculite as a raw material in their products. Even knowing the deadly effects of the asbestos in their vermiculite, WR Grace continued to exposure their workers, the people in the town of Libby, and the employees of other manufacturers who used the vermiculite.
It is unknown how many have died of asbestos-related disease. One study comparing the Montana and US mortality rates against those in Libby from 1979-1998 found there was a 20-40% increase in malignant and non-malignant respiratory death for the Libby inhabitants. No one can say how many were killed by asbestos exposure from the vermiculite shipped out of Libby to other parts of the country.
The EPA estimates more than 274 area deaths were caused by asbestos-related diseases. A full 17% of Libby residents who were tested were found to have pleural abnormalities, which may be related to exposure to asbestos. In February 2005 the Federal Government began a criminal conspiracy prosecution of WR Grace and of seven current and former Grace employees. The government alleged that Grace conspired to hide from employees and the town residents the asbestos dangers and that it knowingly released asbestos into the environment. On May 8, 2009, a jury found W.R. Grace & Co. and the accused employees not guilty on all counts, ending what was called the biggest environmental-crime prosecution in U.S. history.
Though not a single event like the others, this was a mammoth industrial scale disaster played out one nuclear detonation at a time, over a twelve-year period. The full human impact of the approximately 200 above ground nuclear weapons tests conducted in the western USA, at the Nevada Proving Grounds, may never be known. What is known is that the detonation of nuclear weapons, in the atmosphere, accounted for a total yield of 153.8 megatons of TNT explosive and large amounts of radioactive fall out over a huge portion of the United States (and the world).
Between 16 July 1945 and 23 September 1992, the United States maintained a program of vigorous nuclear testing. Until November 1962, the vast majority of the U.S. tests were atmospheric (that is, above-ground). After the acceptance of the Partial Test Ban Treaty all testing was regulated underground, in order to prevent the dispersion of nuclear fallout. The U.S. program of atmospheric nuclear testing exposed a huge portion of the US population to the hazards of fallout. Estimating exact numbers, and the exact consequences, of people exposed has been medically very difficult.
A 1979 study reported in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded that – “A significant excess of leukemia deaths occurred in children up to 14 years of age living in Utah between 1959 and 1967. This excess was concentrated in the cohort of children born between 1951 and 1958, and was most pronounced in those residing in counties receiving high fallout.”
In a report by the National Cancer Institute, released in 1997, it was determined that ninety atmospheric tests at the Nevada Test Site (NTS) deposited high levels of radioactive iodine-131 across a large portion of the contiguous United States, especially in the years 1952, 1953, 1955, and 1957—doses large enough, they determined, to produce 10,000 to 75,000 cases of thyroid cancer.
Radioactive fallout from Cold War nuclear weapons tests across the globe probably caused at least 15,000 cancer deaths in U.S. residents born after 1951, according to data from an unreleased federal study. Certainly a large percentage of the radioactive fall out that Americans were exposed to came from US above ground nuclear weapons testing.
The study, coupled with findings from previous government investigations, suggests that 20,000 non-fatal cancers — and possibly many more — also can be tied to fallout from aboveground weapons tests. The study shows that fallout from scores of U.S. trials at the Nevada Test Site spread substantial amounts of radioactivity across broad swaths of the country. When fallout from all tests, domestic and foreign, is taken together, no U.S. resident born after 1951 escaped exposure.































wow, crazy read… interesting though!
agreed.
Cool list
Donora Smog isn't much compared the the great london smog or 'Pea Souper' of 1952, 4000 dead, 100,000 sickened, bad times.
true indeed – the only problem is that London isn't in America
This just goes to show, as advanced as we claim to be, as a country, we are years away from being a “utopian” nation. We got big companies wanting to fill thier pockets a little more by subpar building materials and workers safety treatment. If we want to progress we must get those companies to be held accountable for thier greed and lack of human compassion. Souless ceos and execs should be jailed and given the death penalty for the murders they so easily wrote off as “an act of God.” Sorry just my opinion.
What you are asking is that we all hold hands and become unified so no more people have to die. I understand where you are coming from but that is like asking the air to become gold. Humans are driven to deplete and destroy everything around them as long as it gives them gratification. We are nothing better than parasites who happened to land on the unlucky Earth. As long as there is ONE person willing to do harm, out of the billions out there, this "utopia" will be nothing more than a dream, a miserable grasp at something uncatchable. How do you think Communism became so wanted? They promised freedom and equality to all but look what happened to them! One person got greedy and the whole system failed.
Oh i see. Your one those anti-american, anti-semites aren’t you? Oh! How cute! Here can you take my picture with this guy, i’ve never had the pleasure of meeting a real live id10t! Thanks, i’m putting this pic on my facebook page under people who should have been miscarried.
lol, facebook
Anything built by Donald Trump. Especially his casinos. Along with his hair.
Brilliant list. It seems that man always ends up *****ing himself.
American Idiot!!! bombs away is your punishment!!!
I don't think anyone should die for simply being "American". Regardless of your reason, death does not solve anything. What you said is disgusting and an embarassment to all human out there. You are the "idiot" sir. I may not like America very much for what it is but I do not condemn everyone in it. The difference between anyone and Americans is that we just simply think differently and that can be said about any country, or as matter of fact, anyone. Your lust for watching other Americans suffer makes you no better than them!! You lousy hipocrite
it's a song lyric, you retard
the 'bombs away is your punishment' comment isnt in the lyrics retard, by the way your adopted
it's from the song "Holiday" by Green Day
Song lyric or not, the commentary is inappropriate and rude. I strongly suspect that was the intent and that "enemy" is a forum troll.
Wow, I never heard of #2…but I have heard a different story…in Centralia, Pennsylvania where the mine caught fire and is still burning today…don't think anybody died though. That's an uncanny coincidence!
I just realized that my post is also about Centralia in Pennsylvania too. Now I just think it’s bizarre that two towns of the same name had such terrible mining accidents.
Yikes. Great list.
Very interesting list. JFrat please remove the trash that troll wrote on his comment below your first one.
very good list!!!
heard about some of these, but it would be cool if the list was also made for the global disasters, not only USA
I’ve read that the the fire in the mines of Centralia are still burning and it’s basically a ghost town now. It was the inspiration for the setting of the Silent Hill movie.
I have been to Centralia and it is really a strange experience. Almost no buildings, sidewalks that have nothing around them, empty streets, and if you know where to look – smoke coming out of the ground! It is almost a ghost town. But not quite – a few elderly people still live there. When they die, I think the state will bulldoze what ever buildings are left, and close off the town for good.
How many shareholders, chair(wo)men, board members, CEOs or senior managers were killed in any of these?
to be honest how many women at all were killed in any of these ? cant be a helluva lot of women miners and seamen (lol) .
An interesting side note to the Deepwater Horizons oil platform explosion – there were many BP executives on board the platform when it exploded. Why? They were there to award a safety citation to the operators of the platform for going several years without a work injury. True story. None of the BP executives were killed in the blast though several were injured.
probably about the same as the number of men who have died in childbirth (lol).
Dont get me wrong im not saying men work harder or that women dont have their own risks and danger to contend with , im just saying that we should think of the children , and how we could possibly get them to work in the mines and cargo vessels etc . I mean if any die we can just make more right ? Theres tons of them already too…
can we have a worldwide industrial disasters list please…
bazza—-
that is a great idea.
what, exactly, is stopping you from writing one?
His limited intelligence.
well played, raul………
Interesting list. I find it so hard to believe that people would, knowingly, allow some of these things to happen just to gain profit. Scary.
BP made short-sighted cost saving decisions that led to the Deepwater Horizon oil platform explosion, just like they did at the Texas City refinery explosion. BP elected to use an inferior casing for the drill which at least partially contributed to the pipe break and explosion, and decided against spending extra money on a "sonic switch" which is a second back up device used to seal the well and stop it from leaking oil after an accident breaks the pipe from the well head. BP apparently fails to learn from their own deadly mistakes.
Oh, dang..! I actually remembered number 3…
Very sad how these things happen…
That Texas City one is just insane! Why didn't they start moving ships out right after the first one blew?
Of course these are just a few and with how companies are run now, there will be more….which is very sad.
Some very brave people (can you imagine going on board a burning ship filled with ammonium nitrate right after another ship with ammonium nitrate had just exploded?) did try to move the second ship out of the harbor but were unable to do so. The ship may have been too damaged to move, the harbor may have been blocked by wreckage from the first blast, but for whatever reason, they could not move the second ship and it too detonated in the harbor.
I was talking about the second ship, but I thought it wasn't damaged. I was under the impression they didn't have the man power to bother but were focusing on stopping the flames of the first one.
I live on the Texas Gulf Coast, and I've heard stories about Texas City that are horrific. The true toll in lives will never be told, because apparantly many people were simply vaporized. That fertilizer is some damn deadly stuff.
I would have considered including any American coal seam fires, but with no immediate deaths, they aren't *****y enough to be newsworthy.
I would include the contamination of Newtown Creek in Brooklyn, New York. Tragic, really.
That can be argued. A man is walking along side a cliff and he trips, falls, and dies. Is this some kind of government conspiracy or just dumb luck? Though you might not mean government conspiracies or murder at all. Perhaps it was a lack of concentration and a pebble poorly placed in the wrong spot at the wrong time? The man may have prevented this if he had paid more attention and that would be the cause or the pebble could have been the cause of this misfortune. Which ever way you look at it, no one is correct. An accident is an accident, "but it could have been caused by something", we will find ourself going down a spiraling staircase that has no end but two different outcomes.
yes, but there is a difference between walking along a cliff with an unfortunately-placed pebble on the ledge and entering a worksite in which corners have been cut to save $$, completely disregarding the safety of the workers and/or the population around it. Pebbles can't be helped, bunk workplace safety can.
Interesting but I thought 3 mile island would of made the grade.
I did not include Three Mile Island because though it was an important American industrial accident, no one was killed. No one we know of anyway. (and I live less than 30 miles away from the plant!!).
Yeah I thought it would have too. Even if no one was killed, I've heard cancer rates in nearby towns tripled (or something like that) in the years afterward.
after them-self contaminating the whole earth atmosphere……. now they impose sanction on any country that remotely says "nuclear" even for non military application
America is really a weird school of human intelligence
IN FACT the USSR conducted many, many atmospheric nuclear tests as well, and with far less concern for the effects of global fallout. It was the USSR, in fact, which detonated the largest nuclear device ever built, the Tsar Bomba, a bomb of roughly 50 megatons, with fallout that stretched across the globe.
As for sanctions imposed on states trying to "go nuclear," what is a better option to you? A world with a small handful of nuclear states—or a world where EVERYONE has the bomb? I'll take the first choice any day.
This place is going downhill. Most of the comments here are wretched and the list quality gets worse by the day. Perfect anti US list, appearing the day after Memorial Day. You’re such a sly one.
Then why are you still going to this website?
I'm not going to comment on the possible bias of the list writer in composing a list of only AMERICAN industrial disasters… but I do take umbrage with the Bonus choice, as it implies that this was solely an American vice (indeed, it doesn't even mention the countless atmospheric tests conducted by the Soviet Union, Britain, France, or China–which still has not signed the Limited Test Ban Treaty to this day–and the failure to even MENTION the tests by these other states is, to say the least, rather disingenuous).
Atmospheric testing was, in fact, a horror perpetrated by not just the US, but by the aforementioned countries as well. And as I pointed out to another poster, it was in fact the USSR which evinced a more callous disregard for global contamination via fallout, up to and including the detonation of the largest nuclear device ever exploded—the Tsar Bomba, which was roughly 50 megatons. The fallout from this bomb was spread around the world.
Laying "blame" in this context solely on the US is tantamount to rewriting history.
Not to mention the fact that these tests can hardly be said to be "industrial accidents." Rather, the choice of including them smacks of an agenda on the list writer's part, to lay guilt and culpability for the Cold War singularly at the feet of the US, and to place all health risks and damage there. Sorry, but the truth is otherwise. While often nothing more than sabre rattling, SOME nuclear testing was essential and necessary, and, as I've already pointed out, these tests were NOT conducted only by the United States.
So true
Wait a minute skippy. The ivan bomb had a lead tamper instead of uranium, making it very clean for its size (even heard one of the “cleanest”). So its fallout was really reduced. Ive googled your statement that the fallout was detected all over the world but i just couldnt find any sources. But i did find the castle bravo incident with fallout detected even in australia. If you dont know, australia is very far. So you are also rewriting history with “more callous statement”.
Ps: id mention the studies made by the french regarding nuclear fallout effects on human beings. They actually sent military personnel after the blasts with minimum protectiin.
And doesnt everybody know that not just the us did athmospheric testing?
Don't call me "skippy," *****, and don't EVER assume I don't know what I'm talking about. You'll lose every time.
YES, the Tsar Bomba could have been made a great deal worse than it was. So what? It was still a 50+ megaton yield bomb which sent ionized particles into the atmosphere in quantities never seen before from any other nuclear test, and sent gamma radiation across a swath of area which was never accurately determined but was surely huge. FURTHER—the largest reason WHY the the sleeve of the bomb was lead instead of uranium was NOT to protect anyone from fallout, but simply to help reduce the yield of the bomb. The design of the Tsar Bomba optimally allowed for a yield of 100+ megatons. This was deemed much too large (how, after all, do you deliver such a huge bomb, let alone air drop it without killing the crew that delivers it?) and one of the steps taken to reduce yield was in replacing a uranium sleeve with a lead one. Period.
But that was NOT the point of what I was saying. MY point was that the USSR conducted MANY atmospheric tests–nearly as many as the US–as did Britain, France, and China. Not to mention India, Pakistan, and now, apparently, North Korea. It was simply WRONG for the list writer to imply that the US alone is to be held accountable for atmospheric nuclear testing.
MOREOVER, arsnl, the mere fact that you can readily find fallout data for Castle Bravo or any other US test proves nothing; the US had surrendered much of this data LONG ago, whereas the USSR kept a tight rein on the results of its tests, and Russia continues to do so. However, intelligence services in the West and in various Asian countries had been able to make determinations on the fallout from Soviet testing.
NO, I am NOT "rewriting history" with my statements. IN FACT, arsnl, you're making a pathetic attempt to attack me here, no doubt for purposes of your own, since we don't like each one bit… but in doing so, you've fallen flat on your face yet again.
Pakistan did not conduct atmospheric nuclear testing. Its tests were carried out below a mountain range in the remote Chagai areas of Balochistan.
You're overreacting, AGAIN, Randall. Chill out man you are raving like a hormonal lady. Yeah everyone else did tests but this was an AMERICAN list so that was an AMERICAN bonus entry. Chill the ***** out man and try to think logically,not just jump to knee-jerk and unconsidered rants.
A bit of advice: You are generally very entertaining but not always that accurate or on point. Just ease off the rants and thing about what people are actually saying. Good posts in general though mate.
Cheers – Mike
Hey Mike. ***** you. Okay?
Thinking logically? Your little missive here shows clearly that you have no grasp of the concept. A) explain just how atmospheric nuclear tests qualify as "industrial disasters," and B) explain how one is supposed to otherwise judge a list which singles out American nuclear testing but makes no mention of any other nation's. Not thinking logically? Hardly, moron. In fact, I presented clear logic for WHY this was disingenuous, probably agenda-driven, and just plain wrong. You, on the other hand, offer nothing but bull***** insults in return, of the poorest quality to boot (hormonal lady… nice. Think that one up all by yourself, butthead?)
This was not knee-jerk, nor was it an "unconsidered" rant. I found the inclusion of, and the singling out of, American nuclear testing to be at the least a flawed bit of reasoning and at the worst a kind of propagandizing. You don't agree, too bad. The least you could do is present the reasons WHY you don't agree.
Lastly, how about you explain to me how I was "inaccurate," Mike. Hmm? Just where was my inaccuracy? Care to enlighten us? Apparently I missed on one point–Pakistan, as I've been corrected, did not actually conduct an *above* ground test. That's it.
American List = American Disasters
American List = American Bonus Item
See, simple eh? America was not singled out as the sole proprietor of above ground testing but AS AN AMERICAN SPECIFIC LIST ONLY AMERICA WAS INCLUDED.
Not that hard to understand eh?
WRONG, moron. Think again–if thinking is something you're actually capable of—because you're sorry attempt at "logic" here fails utterly.
THE POINT is not that the LIST ITSELF was wrong in focusing on American accidents… that was a neutral issue in itself. MY POINT was that including the bonus item was WRONG because A) it did not qualify as an "industrial disaster" (since you're so keen on pointing out the nature of the list, I'll in turn point out to you the TITLE of the *****ing list, which you're apparently too dull-witted to take note of) and B) It was not a practice that was solely American in any way, shape or form, but the list writer made the tacit implication–by omission—that it WAS.
Perhaps hard for YOU to understand… because this distinction requires intelligence.
Look Randy (I can call you Randy now right? We are mates now right?), you are correct this is not an industrial disaster, but that's not the point. The point is that your rant about other countries testing above ground is entire arbitrary and completely irrelevant. Your point B above is utter rubbish, the writer did not make a tacit implication by omission, that is something you manufactured in your head.
His inclusion of bombs in this list is incorrect but aside from this it is reasonable that his misguided inclusion still be American. Of course he would not mention other countries testing in a list detailing US disasters. Your problem with the list is that he did not mention other countries but why should he? This is a US list. Your beef is misguided. Be reasonable here with very small points, should he also detail every other sovereign's misdeeds of industrial *****ups? No because it is a US list. You are being unnecessarily argumentative on what is effectively and very small point man.
The castle bravo test was in Bikini Atoll in the Marshall Islands which are not that far from Australia.
So american secret services released australian information? Am i the only one that see a glitch in that? Do you really think that scientists all over the world detected significant amounts of fallout traces but didnt declare it at all?
How do you know what sakharov was planning when he designed that bomb. Of course there would be a HUGE fallout problem if there would have used uranium. Fallout that would have affected mainly SOVIET territory. How much of a douche can you be to assume that they took only one factor into consideration. Now you are an expert in nuclear physics?
Peekajaw: yes you are right but they detected traces even in europe. That is pretty far for me.
Randall where did you find your information about INDIA. I really cant find any data related to that subject. I can actually say they DIDNT carry that type of testing.
About N Korea. Well you probably. So ill say probably not. They dont have the needed uninhabited surface to test.
I'm not sure about the list writer's possible bias. However, for me this list highlights that the American people do have the power to keep industries accountable for their mistakes. Many other countries could sweep these things under the rug, but American transparency makes it so that the world has the intimate details of these disasters. I think it takes strength for a country to acknowledge its imperfections and make the effort to correct them.
*edit* not the country's imperfections necessarily as much as the imperfections in regulation and in the policies of certain corporations.
I dont understand your english sir! too advanced for me
Hi there everyone – VanOwens Body here – thanks for all the great comments about my list. I hope you liked it and found it interesting.
I'd be glad to work on a similar list for industrial disasters in all countries. The usual suspects would be on the list (the Bhopal India cyanide release, the Chernobyl nuclear power plant explosion), but I could try to find some lesser known industrial disasters to include in the list also.
Thanks to Listverse for publishing my second list (my first was Top 10 Modern Night Club Fires).
Well … what can one say …
Your first list was fantastic. This one was too, don't get me wrong, but I didn't know about any of the night club fires. Keep these great lists coming.
Centralia is in Pennsylvania, not Illinois. Learn some geography.
There couldn't be two cities in the same country with the exact same name, could there?
No, that would be impossible.
Maybe in the same place?
there's at least 3 – there's one in WA, too!
he's talking about the mine disaster in Centralia, IL, not the constantly burning mine in the ghost town of Centralia, PA. Learn some geography.
How the hell are you going to open a list about American industrial disasters with some ***** caused by a BRITISH company. Secondly, Randall is totally right about the list writer's agenda. Thirdly, it's actually *****ing disgusting how bad some people hate on America for no reason.
Well i hate russian for spreading communism all over eastern europe. Countless people hate diff countries. Get over yourself and move on you drama queen.
Not wanting people to hate my country does not make me a drama queen. You however are a hating ass dildo who likes a weak ass soccer team. ***** you!
Im not seeing the french starting to cry oh why oh why do americans hate us or think we’re surrender monkeys. I dont see russians squirming that they dont feel my love. So just grow up why dont you. Do you want the world to wake up in the morning and sing songs for you americans?
Here’s an advice: why dont you settle your own hate problems (racism etc) and then ask for the world to love you.
"why dont you settle your own hate problems (racism etc) and then ask for the world to love you. "
***** you. Have you been hibernating for the past 50 years or what the hell is the matter with you? Let's see how many other developed countries have a president of African lineage. Or let's see the racial breakdown of every *****ing government in the developed world.
Oh, please, don't give me that crap. So has any white *****ing president been greeted with universal joy? At least the vast majority of Americans have no problem with their president being black. At least we ELECTED one. That's a pretty *****ing big difference from any other developed nation.
Don't tell me that we haven't made great progress with respect to race issues. It's a fight you're simply going to lose. And don't even try to convince me that the US is any more racist than any comparable nation, because that would be BULL*****. And if neither of those is your point then I don't see why you're wasting your time replying to my comments.
Wow….such hate. I don't hate those from Russia for what they have done to my family (and I'm from Russia, by the way) or those from other countries for what they have done to others.
You have become quite hateful of late as I have seen from your posts.
@oouchan. Personally i dont hate them. Tell that to my ex that was russian. I was just making a point. Dont assume you know everything about me just from one idea i post here. Tits did just that. He assumed people ACTUALLY hate america and they wake up in the morning just hoping they can annoy an american. Its wrong and im bored by all those complaints.
Ps: technically russia never actually changed it policy. Begining with the tsars they were the same. We always had problems with them (their rulers their policies their army)
btw do u find it normal for an iraki to hate the american govt. I find it absolutely normal and perfectly understandable.
Well i hate russian for spreading communism all over eastern europe.
So….from that I am to believe you are all hunkydory with Russians? Give me some credit. You posted HATE. From what is someone reading your post supposed to think?
Not everyone is a hater. Not everyone hates the USA, Russia, China, or Iraq, etc. However, I was pointing out YOUR hate in that statement which you seem oblivious to.
As for a anyone hating anyone, it's not acceptable. Hating a government is entirely different. I dislike my own government strongly and I feel the same way about several other governments, but I don't hate/dislike the people.
@oouchan: ok i see you need me to make CLEAR phrases. I dont hate russians. I hate all the russian govts/rulers that ever existed. Well im cool with peter the great. But thats all. I am perfectly aware of the fact that some borsch eating old lady from Novgorod had nothing to do with spreading communism or with russia’s will to always expand its territory. It was the rulers decision and it did it with the russian (or soviet) army. I think its my right to hate that army and those rulers. I find it very confusing though when some russian is telling me how wonderful is its army. I take a bit of my time to explain why he’s bs-ing me.
Moving on: you need to explain to that iraki that yes he should hate the american govt but he shouldnt hate the people that voted for that govt. And while you’re at it why dont you explain to those americans that you need to accept the idea of constructing a mosque near ground zero. That you musnt hate muslims in general.
Im aware that not everyone is a hater but you cant ask for love if you live in a troubled country. In a country that has still hatred problems towards its minorities and immigrants.
That was the point of my comment. Some people should stop thinking they are so damn important.
Ps: and others should stop thinking that they know how one person is after just one comment.
What's wrong with asking for a clear answer? You obviously weren't clear or otherwise, you wouldn't need to explain.
I also do not like the governments including the USA's. I frequently ask others to not hate the people but to go after the government for it. I also work on my own government. Hopefully with enough voices we can make some changes.
Im aware that not everyone is a hater but you cant ask for love if you live in a troubled country.
Why not? I most certainly can ask for that as well as ask it from my own country. I ask it of EVERYBODY…not just from other countries…everyone should learn some temperament.
As for being important…again, it's the government and loudmouth idiots who think they are important and they come from ALL countries.
…..for the PS part….One comment…..you have made several and since that is all I have to work with, you can guess how I see you.
However, since you (most graciously) explained your comment, it's not as bad.
And you can stop being so *****ing sanctimonious, *****. "…a country that still has hatred problems towards its minorities and immigrants." And just what little fairyland do you hail from that DOESN'T have these VERY SAME PROBLEMS? As we know, it's somewhere in Europe—where every nation I know of runs the gamut from mildly to notorious and viciously hostile to immigrants and often to other races.
There is nothing wrong in asking for a clearer answer. I didnt say that. Its perfectly normal.
“. I ask it of EVERYBODY…not just from other countries…everyone should learn some temperament.”
Can we please stop the utopian conversations. If something is impossible we should stop discusing it. I dont see the point of it. Its just a big loss of energy.
“As for being important…again, it’s the government and loudmouth idiots who think they are important and they come from ALL countries.”
That was actually related to the “why do people hate americans”. I was saying i can find you a lot of examples of ,lets call it, “national hatred”. For me its a stupid thing to worry about. Its not at all crippling. When was the last time tits didnt get a job because he was american, or when was the last time the police stopped him to check his papers because he kind of looked like an american? The worse thing that could have happened was that some waiter was a bit rude with him in Paris or some other minor inconvinience.
But i can tell you the latest scandal related to black/latino/muslim discrimination. And this is serious because it actually affects people’s lives (they have to search a lot more to find a job, they can be stopped by the police for a quick check up) not just their vacation. (thats why i said he’s a drama queen).
” that is all I have to work with, you can guess how I see you”
well nobody actually asked you to see me in any way or to *****yse me. Yes you can say nobody has to ask you, you just do it, but then i can ask you: does it improve anything in your life if you judge a person just after 3 or 4 comments. I do see the “You have become quite hateful of late as I have seen from your posts.” as a form of judging a person without a real bassis.
Can we please stop the utopian conversations.
Why? It's not really that impossible if we try. I'm willing, are you? Guess not.
As for your comments to General Tits….wow. You have some problem with him it seems. Try being a woman and getting discriminated against. It works in all forms not just what color your skin is and where you are from. How do you know what he is? He could fall into any of those categories and here you are telling me I'm the one anaylizing you but you are quick to point the finger at someone else.
All I did was point out your HATE in your original comment above and I get obliviousness from you.
As for judging…we all do it all the time….as you just did. I'm not going to go farther with this as it's pointless now I see.
*Sorry, Jaime! Didn't mean to go and hijack the thread*
Btw forgot: what part of russia did you come from and i apologise for replying to myself. The mobile version of LV doesnt allow more that one reply in a reply (i cant reply to a reply to a reply)
@oouchan: im really sorry for forgetting about women
). My bad, but i really wasnt trying to make a COMPLETE (looks like ive learnt something from randall. The use of capital letters) list of all the possible types of discriminations that can exist.
“He could fall into any of those categories “. Well i dont care of all the possible discriminations he might be susceptible of. He just addressed that “national hatred” and i replied to that (afterwards i said well this type of thing has no real significance.
I didnt judge tits. I just said “move on”and i called him a drama queen. I didnt judge him. I called him names. And he replied to that in a delightful manner. There is a subtle difference between judging and calling names
I just dont appreciate someone calling me “hateful” without a funny little insult on the side.
Ok i think you said its over now.
@randall: my oh my. What the hell is wrong with you today randall? You get you data wrong, you miss the point. You are not fun at all today.
I never asked for people to have/or to not have a certain feeling regarding my country (or the continent i come from) so i dont get where you want to get with your comment. I NEVER said i live in fairytown. I know my faults so thats why i dont point fingers.
Ps dude take a vacation. Freshen up and come back when you’ll be more edgy, when you’ll have new material. I mean today you were sitting duck. Im
dissapointed at you. You are not funny.
because they happened in America?
These people are hypocrites. They say the world doesn't revolve around America. Well guess what morons? The world doesn't revolve around overrated Europe either.
I hate everyone equally . No-one feels left out and nobody feels targeted . Its a perfect system . And i dont think it disgusting how some people hate America ,Ignorant yes but disgusting is the wrong word ( i think its disgusting the way people hate the "Double Down") watch the news and you cant blame them with all the war and ***** being stuffed down their throats evryday via the mass media .- they should be hating the US Goverment ( the same way i distrust and detest all goverments) . But the real enemy is not the US people (or any people ) nor is it the US Goverment (or any goverment) its those *****s who waste comment space *****ing about the list being too american . You want politics go some where else (unless the list is about politics) . Other wise in all honesty those *****ers who always complain about the list should just simply shut the ***** up and go away Or even -now stay with me here this part gets tricky , -they should their own *****ing list!
LoL, true that.
You just forgot the worst AMERICAN Industrial disaster, San Juanico 1984, Mexico. 600 dead, 6000 injured:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Juanico_Disaster
Not sure what you're trying to imply with that. The word "American" has been used to refer to things from the US for centuries. It's a little to late to start a fight over the use of that word, don't you think?
There´s no fight, the word has been misused for centuries as you stated (although "centuries" may be an exaggeration). I´m just pointing out the worst American industrial disaster in terms of victims just as I mentioned.
I was 9 yo when that happened and lived 10 miles away from the site, I clearly listened the explosions, it was a nightmare.
See? You're doing it again.
Pal, for most people on the planet, "American" doesn't encompass things that happen in Mexico. A disaster in Mexico is not an "American" disaster for most of us. Give that one up, you're simply going to LOSE that fight. It's a fight against the establishment. And your position is not any more correct or privileged than those that use the word "American" to refer to the United States. Bear in mind that continents are artificial labels that we use to refer to a piece of land. One label is as good as the other. Hispanics may well use the label "America" to talk about 42 million sq. km. of land extending from Alaska to the Antarctic ocean, but that is NOT conventional in the English-speaking world. You may question English convention as much as you want, but don't go around thinking that you're right and everyone else is wrong, because that's not the way it is.
San Juanico is in Mexico. This is not a list about Mexican disasters. This is a list about AMERICAN disasters, AMERICAN meaning from the United States, as MOST PEOPLE VISITING THIS WEB SITE will immediately assume and understand upon seeing that word. Including a disaster that was outside of the United States will only CONFUSE and MISLEAD people into either thinking that Mexico is now part of the US or that the author doesn't know his geography.
Ok, first of all I´m not your "pal".
It´s ridiculously sad how you can´t see that it´s just this kind of incredibly stupid arguments what makes people around the world get the wrong idea that every citizen in the US is just as self-centered and puerile as you are showing out to be.
As I said before I´m not fighting you or "the establishment" (sic), I don´t give a rat´s ass if your ignorance and laziness avoid you from acquainting that the term is misused just because it´s "NOT conventional in the English-speaking world" or if you assume that 600 million people are wrong.
The last sentence of your first paragraph is so manifestly pretentious that you assume you can tell me how I should "go around thinking", while your second paragraph is not only contradictory but bare and idiotic, if the author had included disasters in America outside of the US nobody (well maybe you) would state something like "hey pal you said American disasters, Brazil is not in America", so the confusion and misleading would only exist in your manifest callowness and limited comprehension/intellect.
Have a nice day but think twice before trying to start an arid debate with such feeble assertions.
By the way, if you do go through with the idea of writing a list of "American" things from the Americas, get someone to check your English. A handful of above-average insults are not going to mask the fact that it isn't your first language.
And do read a little more about the term, so next time you don't look so "manifestly pretentious" and your "manifest callowness" doesn't blindfold you.
Anyway, it's pretty clear to me you have no *****ing idea what you're talking about. I wasted too much time here, I'm not even going to bother reading your next reply, which I assume will be just as pathetic, inaccurate, upsetting, and disappointing as your previous one. I thought you were a reasonable man and we would discuss the usage of the term "American" (because, unlike you, I'm open to different interpretations), but you turned out to be a volatile, stubborn, ignorant, pretentious, hostile, short-sighted little prick who thinks he knows more than he does. Oh no, I'm not interested in whatever bull***** you have in store for me.
Good bye. Hope I never encounter you ever again in my life.
Lol, well I can take the lazy tag away from you, pal, but I remind you that you started this, and I´m sorry that you took it personal.
Why are you so mad? Why does it enrage you that I use accents? How and why did you notice? (and what for?)
You are right in saying t that the two ways to use the word are perfectly acceptable depending on the context AND the language, you are also right in saying that you´re not going to take me out of my little bubble (neither am I).
I never said that English is my first language or even try to "masquerade" that fact, but I think it´s that assumption along with so many others as absurd that confuse and enrage you.
If you bother (and now I know you will) to read all this pointless thing all over again, first you say that it´s "too late to start a fight over the use of that word", but you end saying "I thought we could discuss the usage of the word American", then you state "AMERICAN being from the United States" but end saying that you are "open to different interpretations", then you talk about my "mumbo-jumbo" when you just spent 1000+ words fighting over something I couldn´t care less for.
So after *****yzing your antagonistic behavior and conclusions, I gather that what you really want is to cry out loud how much you hate my pretentious little ass, well… that´s your problem.
Meanwhile I´m positive that I will send you the first list I write for spell-check.
I´m also looking forward to someday start a debate with you over the word Football, I´m sure we´ll have a blast
I think most of these people's hatred is misplaced. People decide to hate Americans for what the government does. That's not fair to the rest of us. A majority of us Americans don't even trust our own government. Sad, but true.
80 percent, to be exact. Very sad and very true.
. . . and the world outside of the US is a bowl of cherries.
Jeeze, as above mate but an entertaining enough read.
Cheers – Mike
Why do you accuse Randall of being inaccurate then? That's a pretty unfounded accusation right there.
Van OwensBody – is this a warren zevon reference perhaps. good on ya if it is!!!!!
Yes, very much so. Love Warren's music. A genius in rock n roll like Zappa, if ever that word could be applied to rock n roll artists.
I would like to point out that the author of the list did not seem to have any strong personal agenda. Just because he wrote about American disasters does not make him an America hater. His first list was about night club fires. Does this mean he has strong feelings against clubs? Of course not. Don't be stupid. It was a well-written, informative list that just happened to be focused on American disasters. It isn't fair to remove the US from lists unless it's something good, so just take LV for what it is: a place for excellent, interesting lists. Leave your own political paranoia at the door.
Thank you.
I selected American industrial disasters simply to focus the list. It just as easilly could have been British or French industrial disasters. I did the same thing with my previous list – focusing on just night club fires rather than all building fires.
As I said, I would be glad to do a similar list and include the entire world. Goodness knows other countries can have industrial disasters – such as the tragedy in San Juanico Mexico.
i agree with timothyjames if anything i think you just get off on Destruction and Fire!!!!!!
I totally had my money on this for the bonus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Molasses_Disa…
I considered the great Boston Molasses Flood, but I found someone had used it in another list on industrial disasters.Except for the Texas City explosion of 1947 (which is generally considered to be the worst US industrial disaster of all time), I tried to make a list of US industrial disasters that other lists had overlooked, or chosen not to use. Too bad we have so many disasters to chose from.
How on earth did a list about American industrial disasters turn into a forum for some to vent their anti-Americanism?
Ok chillins, here’s some real info on how american refineries work. I’m sitting in one right now and I pulled up a huge report called “lessons and learnings” from this TX fire. this refinery installed double block and bleed valves to help shut off flow in case of fires. We have psv, cv, fv and about a dozen other processes for stopping flow. I dare anyone here to judge refinery personel and how hard we work to be safe and keep the products in the pipes and tanks. when carbon steel melts round 1200 deg F, and the fire you’re trying to snuff out is at 1100 and climbing… You have no right to comment : )
sounds like they should also teach you guys how to run fast because in the situation you described i wouldnt be doing anything else….
Only the bonus compares to what's happening in the Gulf of Mexico. This is our Chernobyl.
this needs some updateing, Gulf of Oil Spill: #1, who caused it? Damn BP again
Ahem You Give the "RECENT" word a whole new meaning most of the disasters
were from half a century ago
Approximate age of earth – 13. 7 billion years
Approximate age of life on earth – 3.85 billion years
Approximate age of human life on earth – 200, 000 years
Approximately fairly recent – 50 years. Give or take the odd year.
13.7 bil is age of universe moron …..so u saying earth is the first thing came after
big bang how catholic is that
I didn't read all the comments but did anyone mention the inexcusable exclusion of the great Boston molasses explosion? It's been in so many other lists but it really seems to fit this one. Granted you can argue the industrial-ness of molasses, but I think it's still worthy.
i seldom write comments. but i see hat you still count “disasters” by ppl killed.
The only thig we really ever have much too much of, is ppl.
a disaster is the destruction of the nature. Not because of the nature itself. im not that stoned, but it is the planet and its natural system, that sustains us and our future.
Ppl are really insignificant for everyone and everything except their cose relatives and friends.
R-u-a-dick? Yes!
Get a haircut hippie.
Yes, we are as a species overpopulated and need to preserve our ecosystems, but humans are the damn most important thing on the planet.
I feel sorry for you if you do not recognise that. Lay off the bong and come back to reality.
The coal-fire stories in the comments above ARE correct – they started as a result of the disaster detailed in #2 – they have been burning ever since – and will probably continue to do so ad infinitum defying all efforts to extinguish it: Burning Hill, Australia is a similar coal-seam fire which has been burning underground for an estimated 7.000 years – - – - – - – - good luck with that Centralia.
Speaking of Industrial Disasters – why was Enron not mentioned? It may not have killed workersd immediately – but statistics show that up to 100+ people (some sources quote higher numbers) have suicided after losing everything as a result of Enron's financial collapse.
#10 was the Mothman's fault. For serious.
I still say that the Moth Man was responsible for the Silver Bridge collapsing. O_O
What a coincidence, I've been working on a project all day about industrial disasters…wish I had seen this earlier!
You know it is getting harder and harder to like Listverse. Its not that I as an American cannot take criticism. It is just the blatant ignorance of the critics. America is not perfect but neither are we the cause of all the worlds problems. Reading these comments one would think that only bad things happen in America or are caused by America.
I take no offense in reading this list. The author stated it was list of American disasters. I am fine with that. Even though his premise for making the list is an industrial accident by a British company. What is annoying are the "enlightened ones" that share their wisdom of the evils of American. Get off it people…grow up. Your computer is not free…your internet is not free….nor is the electricity that powers both. And you can thank America for all three. Because without the ingenuity and hard work of American companies and (in the case of the internet) the American military you just might not have the ability and in some cases the right to sit at your computer and *****.
GOD BLESS THE USA!
As a Canadian, I don't always agree with your country's cultural and political policies. In fact, I could probably write a novel outlining my criticisms regarding foreign policy, military action and social issues in the states.
That being said, I'm tired of people using anything and everything as an opportunity to make sweeping generalizations about the US. Americans HAVE contributed a lot to the world, including technological advances, foreign aid for impoverished nations and well-meaning attempts at mediation. Moreover, the majority of American citizens are great people. Yes, they (meaning the government and military, not the civilians) have done a lot of things that are worthy of criticism and yes, the "America number one, the colours don't run!" crap is annoying as hell, but the sheer hatred some people have for the country and its citizens is completely unfounded.
Long story short, political criticism is fine, but hating America simply for being America is just plain ridiculous.
too many people muddle those together. years ago, i'm sure, there was more of a differentiation. it seems lately that most of the people who would engage in hating x because its x, seem to think that their reason for hating x is rooted in the same philosophies that sparks their political criticism (or the ideologies behind it, anyway).
further, it is definately the case that many of the people who hate america because its america, also see no slight in hating democrats because theyre democrats or hating a conservative idea, because it was argued by republicans.
this is an increasingly dangerous way to go about things, aside from just being ridiculous.
Another patriot. Happy day. Why do you think you are so important? Why do you think everybody should care and should be thankful to you? Dont you think you are a wee bit egocentristic? Im not hearing obama saying people of the world be grateful for what WE have given to you. And you know that is?
Because it WASNT just you. Evolutions in mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology etc etc etc brought all the things we enjoy today. And its not all american or asian or european or african of australian. Its because all of us. All the knowledge predating Apple or Microsoft didnt just fall in your lap. When was the last time a german said to you dude be thankful for einstein? Or when was the last time a brit said dude be thankful for newton? Or an indian: be thankful for rahmanujan? No. The world doesnt ask you for that. So just give US a break. I dont want all americans to give us a break. Im asking you Jerry to give us a break and listen to your own advice. Grow up.
Ps did the usa sneeze?
Jesus Christ, are you dim-witted or do you just pretend to be so as to annoy people?
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Here, child, he's not saying anyone should thank America. What he's saying is, when people judge America, when they assess our contribution to the world, they often focus on the questionable things our government or corporations have done and give unfairly little weight to the TONS of good things we have done for human civilization. It's not a "hey, thank us," it's a "hey, don't be so *****ing harsh, we've done more good things than bad." Is that too hard to comprehend or are you just misinterpreting what he's saying at your goddamn convenience?
. . .so . . .erm. . .*****ing aside. . .during the cold war russia and america nucked themselves? . . .repeatedly. . .for years? . . . .
The late Isaac Asimov had a short story about space aliens who detected our nuclear tests, and prepared to welcome us into the galactic federation. They changed their minds when they discovered that we were shooting off the nukes on our own planet.
#10 is from the mothman
Union Carbide. Bhopal. Should have been on the list.
I have a lot of sympathy for Americans who have had no part in the awful things corporations from their nation have done. It’s not their fault, and they shouldn’t be blamed.
I have a lot less sympathy for Americans who whine about how it’s so unfair when it gets quite reasonably pointed out that some of the corporations from their country act like scum.
The list was for America
Stop dissing America, we know you are envious.
No Randy, you are wrong. It is actually you that is missing the point here.
All he meant was that these were disasters that OCCURRED in AMERICA.
He did not say any of these items are Americanisms, all he said was that they happened in America. This is where all you considerable bull***** and bluster falls over Randy.
We all agree that the bomb testing should not be classified as a disaster. That is not my issue with you. The issue is you view the bonus item as a criticism of America, which it is not. It is just saying that it happened in America. He is not saying it does not occur elsewhere or implying anything further. It's that simple. Anything more is just ***** manufactured in your head.
Quite simply Randy you overreacted, blathered on for an hour or two and have realised that you are wrong. No considerable amount of rubbish you spout can hide this.
Stop talking ***** pal.
AND STOP calling me "Randy," *****head. That is NOT my name, nor is it witty or clever of you to try this bull*****, shallow, transparent attempt to belittle me by the use of such a name. Others have tried it before, and it's been clearly noted that they only pull such ***** when they have no argument, and have nothing to say. They simply don't like me, don't like what I've had to say, and in their frustration and lack of brains, they pull cutesy little tactics like this out of their ass to try to counter me. It's futile… so knock it the ***** off.
Yeah but you secretly like being called Randy, don't you Randy?
'In the first place, I am rarely wrong, and I almost never "miss the point." YOUR point has not been "missed," it is simply childish and invalid. '
You have just been proved wrong by every single person that replied to your original statement; steve-o, Mike, Raul and Arsnl. So stop whining Randy.
I suggest, June, that you indicate clearly how ANY of the above "proved me wrong." Simply contradicting me or criticizing me personally does not qualify as "proviing me wrong."
Wow Randy – ever heard of thinking before you type? Your argument is as baseless as anything my baby brother comes up with off the top of his head – its as bad as trolling.
On another note – brilliant list. I look forward to one about industrial disasters happening in other parts of the world as well, though I note that one of the entries is word for word from wiki?
"Europe nearly brought western civilization—and actually, world civilization—to its knees only 60-70 years ago. It very nearly wiped it out. The US IN FACT was a bulwark against that grave mistake."
Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by this? Do you mean that the US saved the Allied War effort, or put structures in place after the war to ensures such a threat would not reoccur again? Or something else?
Not being argumentative here just interested in what you meant.
How about the Imperial Foods fire in North Carolina
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_chicken_proce…
That one was a labor relations morality piece, straight out of a Woody Guthrie song. I remember it: workers burned to death because the emergency exits were chained shut–to cut down on theft of the chicken.
Gawd, everybody is so goddamn ***** on here lately!
Great list by the way! I liked the night club one too.
Two others that should be noted were the New London, Texas school explosion that killed 295 grammer school students and faculty members in 1937, and the Dioxin contamination of Times Beach, Missouri that resulted in the evacuation of an entire town in 1983. Eventually the entire town was obliterated. The chemical clean-up took fourteen years.
Hey jamie just found that youve deleted the first comment. There was no filth in there and sure was no profanity. i was expressing my self within the limits of the freedom of speech sphere.
anyways ill say it again.
”America itself is a disaster”