Another 10 Evil Women
Published on January 24, 2008 - 132 Comments
As promised, we finally present our sequel to the Top 10 Most Evil Women list. The women on this list are all infamous for the horrors they caused. It is a very difficult topic to rank so I have done my best to do so in an objective manner. If you think anyone is missing from either of these two lists, be sure to tell us in the comments.
10. Williamina “Minnie” Dean 1844 - 1895
Death Toll: 3+
Minnie Dean was the first, and only, woman to be executed in the history of New Zealand. She was executed by hanging. Under the guise of helping poor young girls, this evil woman murdered their children and took what little money they had to improve her own lifestyle. At the time, a young woman becoming pregnant without a father was severely stigmatized by society. This gave rise to a phenomenon called “baby farming” in which people would offer to take the children and raise them for a moderate regular fee. Dean was one such farmer, but rather than raising the children, she murdered them at the soonest opportunity and kept the money. This was made possible because “adopting” parents were not required to be registered by law. In many cases the children simply vanished in to the homes of these “farmers” never to be seen again. Dean murdered at least 3 children but it is likely that there were many more whose bodies were not recovered. In my youth I was given a tour of the New Zealand Police private museum and I saw the bones of the 3 recovered children - it was something I will never forget.
9. Dorothea Puente 1929
Death Toll: 9
Dorothy Puente was an elderly woman who ran a boarding house for down and outs. During her years in the house she slowly murdered the people who lived with her and forged their signatures on social security checks in order to live the high life. She refused to allow her tenants to touch the phone or mail. She would take any money that was sent to them and keep most of it for herself. Among her victims were drunks, and schizophrenics. One of the bodies found in the back yard had had its head, arms, and legs removed. The money she stole helped pay for luxury clothing and perfume as well as a face lift shortly before she was caught. Puente showed no remorse for her crimes and is currently serving time in jail where she will die.
8. Karla Homolka 1970
Death Toll: 3 (at least 5 others suspected)
Karla Homolka is a Canadian serial killer who attracted worldwide media attention when she was convicted of helping her husband, Paul Bernardo, rape and murder teenage girls, including her sister Tammy Homolka. Karla videotaped her husband brutalizing and murdering young women - these videotapes were used against them in court and parts have leaked on to the internet despite the fact that the Canadian government ordered the videos destroyed. Shockingly, Homolka was released from jail in 2005 after just 12 years and is now living in the sunny paradise that is the West Indies. Justice commonwealth style.
7. Elena Ceauşescu 1916 - 1989
Death Toll: Genocidal
Elena Ceauşescu was a Romanian self-proclaimed scientist, wife of Romania’s Communist leader Nicolae Ceauşescu, and Vice Prime Minister of Romania. Romanians hold Elena Ceauşescu responsible for the elimination of birth control that created crisis conditions during the 1970s and 1980s, resulting in a flood of unwanted infants, babies, and children that were housed in substandard state operated orphanages throughout the country. She also headed the State health commission, which denied the existence of AIDS in Romania, leading to one of the largest outbreaks (including pediatric cases) in the western world. She was also responsible for the destruction of churches and the food rationing that took place in Romania in the 1980s. She was eventually executed for her crimes against humanity and died screaming “go to hell” to her executor. I wonder how she is finding it there.
6. Elizabeth I of England 1533 - 1603
Death Toll: Thousands (at least)
Elizabeth I, in order to suppress Catholicism, had thousands of Catholics in England and Ireland murdered. While she did good things with regards to parliament, she was an evil tyrant who is, unfortunately, portrayed as “Good Queen Bess” these days (as we know, the victors write history). Additionally, Elizabeth gave Queen Mary of Scots refuge, then immediately betrayed her and kept her prisoner for nearly 19 years, then murdered her (with no intervening freedom!). She encouraged piracy against Spanish ships and allowed the slave trade to thrive.
5. Marybeth Tinning 1942
Death Toll: 9
Between 1972 and 1985, Tinning had 8 children, all of whom she murdered, and adopted one whom she murdered also. Throughout the duration of the deaths, no one had any suspicion that she was murdering them, blaming genetics. This happened despite the fact that her adopted child was the seventh child murdered. She confessed to smothering her children, but later retracted the confession. She was eventually sentenced to 20 years in prison - since then, both attempts at parole have been denied.
4. Rosemary West 1953
Death Toll: 12+
Together with her husband Fred, Rosemary West is believed to have tortured and murdered at least 12 young women. In August 1992 Fred West was arrested after being accused of raping his 13-year-old daughter three times, and Rosemary West was arrested for child cruelty. The Wests developed a habit of picking up girls from bus stops in and around Gloucester, England and imprisoning them in their home for several days before killing them. West had a voracious sexual appetite and enjoyed extreme bondage and sadomasochistic sex. She was bisexual, and many of their victims were picked up for her and her husband’s sexual pleasure. West also worked as a prostitute. Two of her children were fathered by these clients. West is one of only two women ever being condemned to die in prison in the United Kingdom (the other was Myra Hindley who is now dead).
3. Phoolan Devi 1963 - 2001
Death Toll: 22+
Phoolan Devi was an Indian Dacoit (armed robber) who had a brief career as a politician later in her life. In the 1970s she was kidnapped by a gang of dacoits and she eventually joined them in their crimes. At one point she was raped by a group of men in Behmai, a village they attacked. She managed to escape and continued her life of crime, stealing from the wealthy. She eventually returned to Behmai and she ordered all of the men in the village lined up and had them shot. At least 22 men were murdered at her command. She was finally arrested and spent 11 years in jail. She went in to politics but her short lived career ended due to abuse of her power. Shockingly, in 1998, Phoolan Devi was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize by some members of the British Parliament. In 2001 she was assassinated by a man in revenge for the murders she caused in Behmai.
2. Delphine LaLaurie 1775 - 1842(?)
Death Toll: 10+
LaLaurie was a sadistic socialite who lived in New Orleans. Her home was a chamber of horrors. On April 10 1834, a fire broke out in the mansion’s kitchen, and firefighters found two slaves chained to the stove, who had appeared to have started the fire themselves in order to attract attention. The firefighters were lead by other slaves to the attic where the real surprise was. Over a dozen disfigured and maimed slaves were manacled to the walls or floors. Several had been the subjects of gruesome medical experiements. One man appeared to be part of some bizarre sex change, a woman was trapped in a small cage with her limbs broken and reset to look like a crab, and another woman with arms and legs removed, and patches of her flesh sliced off in a circular motion to resemble a caterpillar. Some had their mouths sewn shut and then starved to death, whilst others had their hands sewn to different parts of their bodies. Most were found dead, but some were alive and begging to be killed to release them from the pain. LaLaurie fled before she could be bought to justice - she was never caught.
1. Jiang Qing 1914 - 1991
Death Toll: 500,000+
Jiang Qing was the wife of Mao Tse-tung the Communist dictator of China. Through clever maneuvering she managed to reach the highest position of power within the communist party (short of being President). It is believed that she was the main driving force behind China’s Cultural Revolution (of which she was the deputy director). During the Cultural Revolution, much economic activity was halted and countless ancient buildings, artifacts, antiques, books, and paintings were destroyed by Red Guards. The 10 years of the Cultural Revolution also brought the education system to a virtual halt and many intellectuals were sent to prison camps. Millions of people in China reportedly had their human rights annulled during the Cultural Revolution. Millions more were also forcibly displaced. Estimates of the death toll, civilians and Red Guards, from various Western and Eastern sources are about 500,000 in the true years of chaos of 1966—1969 but some estimates are as high as 3 million deaths with 36 million being persecuted.
Conclusion
We have now shown 20 evil women and I am sorry to say that I have found enough to do a third list in the future. Women, and mothers in particular, are trusted by society to raise future generations - what a tragedy when things go so wrong that you end up with murderous mothers. It strikes me that there must be some warning sign of impending evil with these people - is there any way we can detect it, and if so, can anything be done to prevent the evil from blossoming? Do we have a moral right to dispose of these people before they can do any damage?
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1. jake ryder - January 24th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Wow, I really look forward to a day we can stop talking about Paul and Karla. My bias I guess as a resident of Niagara.
2. Twinkle - January 24th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
@3… if I was raped by a group of men, hell, i’d murder them too, OR I’d cut their dicks. Rape is a serious crime.
3. InconsistentAngelThings - January 24th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Some of these are just plain scary. I guess you might as well bring on list number three, and get it over with.
4. Hector - January 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
“Puente showed no remorse for her crimes and is currently serving time in jail where she will die”
This old lady is still alive ?
She’s 103 or something ?
5. Cyn - January 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
i’m not sure i’d put together serial killers and people responsible for genocide. results are the same. vastly different scale. vastly different routes to get there. more like list serial killers, spree killers and then a different list for genocide.
or not. LOL
still a compelling read. as for your personal closing comments…
seems like every year science produces more ways of scanning the brain for various defects. so there may come a day when its possible to screen a fetus for a brain defect that would allow for antisocial behavior or indicate murderous tendencies. its probably gonna be one of those things society will not address before it becomes a reality…like someone being scanned and the fetus not aborted. the person then grows to maturity and conducts a bloody rampage. then some victim’s family will sue for wrongful life. and it’ll be the theme of all the crime shows on TV for a week. *sigh*
i don’t know what the answer is …practice eugenics? not. enforce sterilization. abortion. er..not.
the good news…it probably will not be in my lifetime.
course it could be in my daughter’s lifetime.
thanks J. now something else to worry about in her future.
*sigh*
6. InconsistentAngelThings - January 24th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
And i agree with twinkie, #3 wasnt really all that bad. just a vigilante, and though thats usually against the law, hell, I would definitely have done the same thing. I dont think rape is an appropriate punishment for anything, even though she was robbing them
7. Cyn - January 24th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Hector…9. Dorothea Puente 1929
she was born in 1929
if i got the math right..she’s 79
8. Andie_Girl9 - January 24th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Rosemary West scares me…that creepy smile…and the ugly hair…scary!
-Andrea Carlena Beauman
9. Angelina - January 24th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
I watched a documentary on the Wests. Very evil couple! Fred committed suicide, Rose still professes her innocence to this day. Disturbing!
Great List! Wow, 3 in one day . . . Jamie, you are spoiling us!
10. Johnny T - January 24th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
To all you people defending number 3. She killed every man in the village. It didn’t specify how many raped her. It just says a “gang.” That could be as few as three men and she killed 22 or more. That’s not vigalante style revenge, that’s just cold blooded murder.
11. kunle - January 24th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
the weaker sex indeed!
12. FelixMG - January 24th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Karla Homolka was relocated to the neighborhood i live in, a south shore suburb of Montreal. She actually lives three blocks away, and has been seen by many people here.
13. nelson - January 24th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
women=all liars weaker sex only in this stupid world
14. andrew - January 24th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
i remember in an other list you said that snuff films didn’t exist in actuality. #8 clearly states that such a thing exist and has leaked on the internet.
15. Alycia - January 24th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
I was wondering when Delphine LaLaurie was going to be put on a list like this.
Good job.
16. puddingpuppet - January 24th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Yes, women are the weaker sex because they kill. Men certainly don’t do that. Nope, not at all. I hope somebody can pick up on my sarcasm. And as for “women=all liars”, do you live in the fucking ’50s? Should they be kept only in the kitchen? Sounds like one broke your heart and you can’t let it go.
17. Fallenangel - January 24th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
I liked the last one, I like this one, I can’t wait to see the next one. I knew about Lalaurie some years ago, but I didn’t know the extent of her attrocities. Love the enlightening, thanks.
18. Captain Reynolds - January 24th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
I’m pretty sure the Homolka case was made into a Ripped From The Headlines “Law & Order” episode - except in that episode, the murdering bitch got the same sentence her husband got. If only fiction were reality…
19. Happy - January 24th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Holy shit so I guess the entire human race sucks ass and its not just one group of people.
20. Keith - January 24th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
andrew: i remember in an other list you said that snuff films didn’t exist in actuality. #8 clearly states that such a thing exist and has leaked on the internet.
“Although these tapes have been described as snuff films, this description is not strictly accurate. The videotapes do not show any deaths; they show violent crimes and the infliction of injuries that ultimately caused one death but no moment of death was pictured.” - Wikipedia
21. Joni - January 24th, 2008 at 8:08 pm
It frustrates me how terrible the Canadian justice system is. You can murder 50 people but only be sent to jail for 25 years, then given anonymity. Great list.
22. Mom424 - January 24th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
karla holmoka was given the deal of 12 years in exchange for her “full and truthful” testimony before the extent of her participation was fully appreciated. She lied,,,they found tapes showing her in all her evil glory and still the crown did not revoke her plea deal. And now she’s living anonymously in the warm sunshine; she raped, tortured, murdered,,,and she got off on it..
where in the west indies? don’t let your teenage duaghters go on holiday there….
23. Mom424 - January 24th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
jfrater; great list, I know about letters of marque -basically legal and encouraged piracy- but I thought it a tactic of war. Harry the enemy through economics and bloodshed. I didn’t know she was a back-stabbing catholic murderin’ tyrant. Britain had the inquisition in reverse?
24. nahi - January 24th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Karla graduated from my high school. Sir Winston Churchill…pretty scary. the glass on her graduating photo where her face is is always scratched out. They’ll replace the glass, but it always ends up getting scratched up again.
25. Mom424 - January 24th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
also…in regards to your closing comments…
yes evil can often be prevented from blossoming; Most sociopaths do not end up serial killers or full blown psychopaths, they become talent agents or sales reps…geez almost as bad. Stability, parental training, and a hefty dose of self-interest keep them within societal boundaries.
Take away the training and stability and substitute child abuse and foster homes, or take away normal boundaries (like Dachau)……sigh
That said, I do believe there are some people born evil. No amount of training will fix them. Some of the ladies on this list are only on this list because their position in government/society allowed their evil to be of grand scale. I guarantee you those same women would be doing evil, albeit smaller evil if they were peasants. The best we can hope to do is catch them before they do too much harm…
26. Yikkity - January 24th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
That damn Delphine LaLaurie was the damn devil. Gave me goosebumps.
27. Kelsi - January 24th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Woah…number 2, totally and darkly fascinated by that. Creepy!! And I think we have agreed to disagree about Elizabeth, so I won’t say much about THAT…
Some of these women don’t really look like women, haha. Just ironic considering the list. Did you purposely choose unflattering photos?
28. malena992 - January 24th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
on LaLaurie, from wikipedia
“969 to 2007 — Eventually, the house was was purchased by a retired New Orleans physician and renovated into apartments. Much of the house was in serious disrepair. When floorboards were replaced in the third floor slave quarters, the bodies of 75 people were found who had been buried alive.”
so the death toll could use a boost
29. GingerLee - January 24th, 2008 at 10:38 pm
I think it’s called the “Bandit Queen” and it’s about Phoolan Devi, you can’t help but feel sorry for her. Just like in Irreversible, there’s a sense of justice in Alex’s boyfriend and exboyfriend’s actions.
I hate how people condemn women like Devi then glorify characters (or the movies about them) like Beatrix Kiddo/Kill Bill. In my mind she’s worse.
30. riley - January 24th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Just so you all know, Karla Homolka was given that sentence in return for testimony against her much more evil husband. She was the only witness to what he instigated, and committed. It was a plea bargain to get him sent to jail for life (which does exist in Canada, with no chance of parole for 25 years) He will die in there because she was willing to talk. To me, its a fair trade, cuz I think as evil as their actions were, I don’t think she would have ever done it alone. Not that I’m saying it was ok… just that he was the worse half of the two.
31. GingerLee - January 24th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
I mean the movie about Devi is called Bandit Queen.
d’oh!
32. corinthian0430 - January 24th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
WTF?…. where’s Imelda Marcos?
33. Gretch - January 24th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
corinthian0430 : Imelda Marcos didnt kill anyone though…
34. sue - January 24th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
It scares me to think that such evil women actually walk the earth,and to be set free!!(no.8)its despicable.no.2 shocked me the most though,I wish she’d been caught so that the victims and their families could have gotten some closure.
35. Logick Bomb - January 25th, 2008 at 12:28 am
no elizabeth bathory? shenanegans. downright shenanegans. unless she was on another list and I didn’t notice, in which case carry on.
36. lynss - January 25th, 2008 at 1:11 am
Susan Atkins?
37. jfrater - January 25th, 2008 at 1:35 am
Logick Bomb: she is on the list mentioned in the opening paragraph - top 10 evil women. She ranks in position 1 no less!
andrew (14): a snuff film is a film produced with the specific intention of distribution to people who enjoy the thought of watching people die - the Wests film was for their own viewing “pleasure” so to speak so it doesn’t count as snuff. Wikipedia sums it up well in fact:
38. jrjb - January 25th, 2008 at 1:52 am
and the rest of the Manson women.
killers like Susan Smith, Aileen Wuornos may or may not belong on this but are evil nonetheless.
#9 and #2 are scary, nightmare crazies
39. Ruairi - January 25th, 2008 at 4:49 am
shouldnt the first list be in the “related lists” section?
40. Rick B - January 25th, 2008 at 5:12 am
I find it nerve racking to see pictures of these beasts SMILING at me. Not the fact that these pictures are posted, but that these hideous beings can smile at any time in their life knowing what they have done or what they would like to do. Heck if I saw #8 in a bar I would try and pick her up! She’s attractive!
41. dangorironhide - January 25th, 2008 at 5:19 am
Excellent list. Fairer sex my ass.
Marybeth Tinning looks like a man…
LaLaurie really disturbed me. Disgusting example of a human being.
42. jfrater - January 25th, 2008 at 5:31 am
Rick B.: so true! It is astonishing that they can smile when you know what is behind those eyes!
dangorironhide: LaLaurie is probably one of the most evil people I have heard of - I should really have included her on the first list.
Ruairi: yes- though it is an automated list so I can’t control what it picks.
43. mitchsn - January 25th, 2008 at 6:41 am
Saw a documentary on Karla Homolka and I belive the reason she was let off so easy was because prosecuters didn’t realize the extent to which she participated in the actions of her husband and offered her a plea deal to testify against her him.
When they realized that she was a willing participant, it was too late, they couldn’t renig on the deal.
44. cparker - January 25th, 2008 at 7:35 am
Notice on both evil women lists no:
Delilah
Jezebel
45. SocialButterfly - January 25th, 2008 at 7:39 am
Twinkle: I do not see how rape is worse than murder. I am female and allthough rape is devastating I don’t see how this justifies killing people.
Vigilante justice does not solve anything it just continues the vicious cycle.
I was 13 years old when Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo were captured and sentenced. Even though I lived 3 provinces away this story terrified my mother. I was not allowed to go anywhere on my own for fear I would be abducted and murdered. At the time this was almost unheard of in Canada.
46. DiscHuker - January 25th, 2008 at 8:45 am
this is scary stuff. it’s when i read things like this that make me shudder at some people’s belief that we are basically good people. who knows what the factors were that convinced these ladies to do what they did? who among us can say that we don’t have the ability to do the same thing if we were given the power and the platform?
i am reminded of the john bradford quote, “there, but for the grace of God, go i”.
47. Stacy - January 25th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Elizabeth I was not evil in any sense. She was victim of her time and her role as ruler and she certainly wasn’t the only woman ruler to kill. Her older sister had murdered countless numbers of Protestants and even historians will agree that “poor” Mary Queen of Scots probably had a hand in the murder of her own husband to be with her lover and was no way innocent as she really had plans to overthrow Elizabeth I and take the thrown herself.
Plus I can’t help but wonder if Elizabeth I is considered by you to be evil simply because she is a woman. She did no worse than any of her European brethern (rulers) of her time. Spain was torturing Jews and Protestants for their faith and she had Catholics killed because they tried to overthrow her. Which at that time was treason. We’re talking before democracy here people.
48. jfrater - January 25th, 2008 at 8:57 am
Stacy: just because other people murdered doesn’t mean Elizabeth I is not evil for doing it - it means they were all evil. As it happens Mary of England is on the original top 10 list (link is in the first paragraph). People have been fooled by movies popularizing Elizabeth I - but the fact remains, she was a tyrant.
Also, I do take issue at you suggesting I would put anyone on my lists because I am anti-women - that is incredibly far from the truth and if you were to read my other lists you would see that I am not sexist. I think it is a shame that your instinctive reaction is to accuse me of being sexist just because you like Elizabeth I.
49. DiscHuker - January 25th, 2008 at 8:58 am
you are right stacy. elizabeth I shouldn’t be included in a list of most evil WOMEN because there were evil men running around doing the same thing.
(please detect the sarchasm)
50. jfrater - January 25th, 2008 at 9:03 am
oh - and incidentally Stacy - she didn’t kill the Catholics because they wanted to overthrow her - she murdered them because they would not deny their beliefs and accept the religion her father invented.
51. Stacy - January 25th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Excuse me! You’re certainly entitled to your opinions but I am just saying that doesn’t make her evil. As for kiling them because they wouldn’t deny their faith that is partly untrue. “Elizabeth was in no doubt that most of her subjects wished her to repudiate the pope and Spanish influence. This chimed with her own conscience and the policies of Sir William Cecil, her Secretary of State, and her chief advisors. She also knew that the papacy would never recognise her as the legitimate child of Henry VIII and the rightful ruler of England.[53] She therefore determined to establish a Protestant church suited to the needs of the English people.[54] As a result, the parliament of 1559 legislated for a church based on the settlement of Edward VI, with the monarch as its head.[55] The House of Commons backed the proposals strongly, but the bill of supremacy met opposition in the House of Lords, particularly from the bishops. Elizabeth was fortunate, however, that many bishoprics were vacant at the time, including the Archbishop of Canterbury[56][57] This enabled the Protestant peers to outvote the bishops and conservative peers.
After various negotiations and changes to the wording, the new Act of Supremacy became law on 8 May 1559. Elizabeth’s title was to be Supreme Governor of the Church of England, rather than the more contentious Supreme Head. All public officials would have to swear an oath of loyalty to the monarch or risk being barred from office. On the other hand, the heresy laws were repealed, to prevent a repeat of the persecution of dissenters practised by Mary. A new Act of Uniformity was passed at the same time. This made attendance at church and the use of an adapted version of the 1552 Book of Common Prayer compulsory, though the penalties for disobedience were not extreme.[58]
Many Catholics, particularly on the continent, regarded Elizabeth as a heretic. In 1570, Pope Pius V excommunicated her, calling her the “pretended queen of England”. This sanction, which in theory released English Catholics from allegiance to Elizabeth, served only to identify the English church more closely with the crown. It also placed English Catholics in greater danger. By encouraging them to rebel, it raised doubts about their loyalty to the queen”
Now you tell me what you would do in her position? You’re now queen but the stupid pope won’t recognize you because you’re considered a bastard and heretic so the “holy one” (and please note MY sarcasm) says go ahead and rebel which they do. I think I’d have the same reaction she did. Also “Elizabeth established an English church that helped shape a national identity and remains in place today.[173][174][175] Those who praised her later as a Protestant heroine overlooked her refusal to drop all Catholic practices.[176][177] Historians note that in her day, strict Protestants regarded the Acts of Settlement and Uniformity of 1559 as a compromise.[178][179][180] In fact, Elizabeth believed that faith was personal and did not wish, as Francis Bacon put it, to “make windows into men’s hearts and secret thoughts”.[181][182]
Hardly an evil stance on the religon of others!
52. Stacy - January 25th, 2008 at 9:18 am
Disc- No what I am saying is she had been a man she’d probably not stand as much.
53. Mom424 - January 25th, 2008 at 9:22 am
riley, michsn; I disagree, yes the deal was made before they knew the extent of her participation BUT as I said earlier, it was for full and truthful testimony. She Lied!, it was proven by the tapes, they could have revoked the deal legally on those grounds….they “Chose” not to. and Less evil? what because she didn’t rape women on her own? C’mon, she served up her own sister. Thats evil.
54. jfrater - January 25th, 2008 at 9:41 am
stacy: the Queen made it law to be Anglican - would you mind if President Bush made it law to be a Southern Baptist and executed anyone who refused? And for the record, the Pope who excommunicated her is a Saint. Finally, she would be rolling in her filthy grave if she knew that there are now more Catholics in England than Anglicans again.
55. MzFly - January 25th, 2008 at 9:46 am
I am appalled that #8 is actually walking around free. I don’t think that kind of evil, sick, twistedness can ever be reformed.
56. kaylensmommy2006 - January 25th, 2008 at 9:54 am
It depresses me how many children are abused/killed at the hands of the women who are supposed to love and protect them. (and in some cases, gave birth to them!)
I have a beautiful 19 month old daughter, and another baby on the way - and I hope that there is a special place reserved in Hell for these monsters.
57. jfrater - January 25th, 2008 at 9:55 am
kaylensmommy2006: I have no doubt that there is - I agree with you completely.
MzFly: I agree with you as well - death penalty for all I say!
58. Mom424 - January 25th, 2008 at 10:29 am
jfrater; woah, Really don’t like good queen bess?
Personally I agree with you; she coulda chose the high road, didn’t, and revelled in the carnage, but I can see Stacy’s point…
Stacy; by your justification the evil perpetrated by concentration camp guards or the japanese at nankin was acceptable behavior,,,cuz’ everyone was doing it…also lucky the bishops were vacant? or personally I think more likely, arranged vacancy?
manipulation is a tool of statehood.
59. macabresoren - January 25th, 2008 at 10:53 am
I think LaLaurie should’ve been #1… I think people of high status, like Jiang Qing, can’t be considered AS evil by nature because they have the cushy reassurance of their position to hide behind. Dictators and mass murderers are evil, bu doubt, but those who do these horrible things out of their own homes, not being protected by any social standing, are the truly evil ones, in my opinion. I think things like that should be taken into account for these lists…
60. SubliminalDeath666 - January 25th, 2008 at 10:59 am
Damn… a lot of these were some ugly ass bitches!!!
61. SocialButterfly - January 25th, 2008 at 11:12 am
I am so tired of people who use wiki as their source for an argument… one or 2 quotes is fine but please do not copy and paste such a large amount and not site your source
62. SubliminalDeath666 - January 25th, 2008 at 11:21 am
SocialButterfly: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! Finally someone who’s not such an asshole to spam the comments with useless wikipedia info. Douchefags!! Again, thank you for understanding!!
63. SubliminalDeath666 - January 25th, 2008 at 11:31 am
For all the people who copy and paste stupid crap from wikipedia who should die a slow and painful death this is for you guys,
Please stop doing this:
BLAH BLAH BLAH
It says so here in wikipedia:
*Random and Useless Wikipedia Info, Random and Useless Wikipedia Info,
BLAH BLAH BLAH
64. SubliminalDeath666 - January 25th, 2008 at 11:54 am
jfrater: Please put a fucking limit on the amount of words one can type in a comment PLEASE! Like a 100 or 150 words at most.
65. Cyn - January 25th, 2008 at 12:12 pm
personally i love Wikipedia! (have you seen the Veropedia…Google it and check it out) if someone feels outside justification or verification of an opinion or statement is needed, why not use an outside reference or resource like Wikipedia? i find it hard to believe that by now people don’t understand the concept behind Wikis, that they are user created. so it is very much ‘buyer beware’ as to validity. it is simply one resource. if you want to CYA then state it is a Wikipedia reference and therefore subject to critique or edit. back it up w/ additional sources if you like. but…listverse commentary is not like justifying your Master’s thesis..its a comment regarding your personal assessment of the list.
so i’d like to see folks chill out a bit on the attacking of other commenters re: personal opinions. which is my own opinion not as an listverse admin.
as to comment length..i’ve no issue w/ lengthy responses. i do take issue w/ repetition of words, symbols or whatnot to fill the comment box. that is not only unsightly in the flow of the page and in the discourse of commenting, its juvenile. again..my own opinion.
66. SocialButterfly - January 25th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Cyn: I agree with you completely, I have no problem with people using Wikipedia, my main issue is regarding people that take such a large quote and do not source it.
67. Mom424 - January 25th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Cyn; i like wikipedia too, but it is not always correct. Is that why sd666 and others complain about it? or just cuz it takes up space? ps; i am too wordy…sorry subliminaldeath666
68. Cyn - January 25th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
oh yeah not sourcing non original info…not good. although..these days, kinda hard sometimes to actually find the original ‘original’ as much as things can attributed..re attributed..backdated..etc.
i would prefer if someone is using something else to bolster their own opinion that they do cite their source…but again…i think its incumbent upon the reader (viewer, consumer..etc) to engage in some critical thinking. stuff like..does this sound familiar? is this is in that person’s ‘voice’? do i smell a dead fish? LOL that kinda thing.
and the nifty thing about commenting here at listverse…you doubt the commenter? politely ask ‘em to clarify or cite their source. cool, huh? wish that it were so in real life.
imagine being able to call ‘bullshit’ on people w/out getting sued or shot or something. heh..
here ya just got take some criticism.
69. Cyn - January 25th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
i’m pretty sure even Wikipedians would agree they’d not like to be considered the absolute final answer to any question posed. Wiki is one source among many. it is subject to human error cuz its generated by humans. and yeah, in this sabotage anything kinda world..subject to being spammed. i would hope people would be more accepting that some things are just not ever gonna be eternal, irrefutable truths. LOL but then i’m an atheist so i do think EVERYTHING is subject to inspection and debate.
if you are in a position that your comment/answer is vitally important…like your continuing education or career is riding on it…then i would look beyond anything w/ ‘wiki’ in the name.
“ps; i am too wordy…sorry subliminaldeath666″ quoting Mom424.
made me laugh. not sure if you intended the sarcasm and/or irony or not. but ‘wordy’ and an unusually long username ..just stuck me as funny.
70. Scar.. - January 25th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
Lalaurie was definately the most evil, I don’t see how anyone got placed before her.. I mean yeah the politicians had alot of people killed, I think torture is worse than murder.
71. Matt - January 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
The lady in number 2 game me chills. She needs a movie loosely based off of what they found… I should call up my director buddy…
72. Maxx_the_Slash - January 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Wait, why is Queen Elizabeth I in this list? The Catholics saw her as a heretic, so why kill them? And she had no control over her own naval fleet when THEY pirated Spanish ships. Ans wasn’t Queen Mary of Scots attempting to steal the English throne from Elizabeth? Elizabeth is far from evil.
73. JWJWBEAN - January 25th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
I kind of have a problem with the woman in power as being on this list. I feel they did their deeds without getting their hands dirty. The others did the killing themselves. Yes the others ordered the killing, but did any of them actually pull a trigger, hold a knife, strangle with their own bare hands, or even pull a switch?
74. teacherman - January 25th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
#9 was alluded to in the movie “No COuntry for Old Men” which takes places in 1980.
75. rich - January 25th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
i remember reading of a biker-type woman who, along with her lover, murdered some people, and they even took photos with the decapitated heads. Ring a bell? any chance of including her in a future list? Or is she here and i missed it? Her name escapes me, but i think it happened in the 70’s or 80’s.
76. sarahenity - January 25th, 2008 at 10:40 pm
7. Elena Ceauşescu
… that’s a woman?
77. jfrater - January 25th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Rich: I am not sure who you are talking about - if you can remember the name let me know so I can consider her for a future list. BTW, it wouldn’t be Aileen Wuornos would it?
78. kunle - January 26th, 2008 at 2:06 am
the evil that women do…
79. zubair kaka - January 26th, 2008 at 6:31 am
jrafter…here are some suggestions for your 3rd or 4th list:
Manto Tsabalalah-msimang the minister of health in south africa who denied the existence of AIDS and to this day argues aids can be beaten by eating garlic and african potatos. death toll- millions and counting
Madeline Albright- after sanctions had killed over 500 000+ new borns in IRAQ she said in an inteview “On 12 May 1996, Lesley Stahl on CBS’s 60 Minutes asked Madeleine Albright, then the US Ambassador to the UN, “We have heard that half a million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?” Albright replied: “I think this is a very hard choice, but the price — we think the price is worth it.”
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright
80. jfrater - January 26th, 2008 at 6:45 am
zubair: thanks for those suggestions - I will definitely keep them in mind for the next one
81. a - January 26th, 2008 at 11:30 am
These are all pretty disturbing but I have to say #2 is down-right insane.
82. jfrater - January 26th, 2008 at 11:34 am
a: I really was torn with that one - she was number 1 throughout the whole research period - but then I thought for the sheer number of deaths from Mao’s wife she should be number 1.
83. Hannah - January 27th, 2008 at 1:45 am
I remember reading a Reader’s Digest article about Marybeth Tining years ago. I couldn’t remember her name, but I wondered if her story would show up on the list. It was so appalling to me that she got away with killing that many of her children, and to never be suspected of anything!
84. JadedInk - January 27th, 2008 at 4:50 am
Society has placed such a stereotype on woman being “the weaker sex”. Not so much in today’s time, but in past years. So it doesn’t surprise me when people are shocked to read about the atrocities some women do.
#2 was just downright scary. I wonder if she continued her perversions after she ran away and was never found?
85. albert0 - January 27th, 2008 at 5:00 am
#6 IS WRONG!!!!! It was mixed up with queen Mary(Bloody Mary) The sister of Elizabeth. She killed housands of Protestants (Mary) in order to supress catholicism. In regard to the “piracy” Against the Spanish fleet or “Armada”, this was entireley justified as this fleet was being assembled to attack Great Britain. All she did was defend her country, which was a perfectley fair thing to do.
86. jfrater - January 27th, 2008 at 5:01 am
albert0: it is not wrong - Elizabeth was evil - she murdered Catholics in order to promote protestantism. Queen Mary is on the first list of 10 for doing the same to protestants.
87. albert0 - January 27th, 2008 at 6:21 am
That was only after she was punished by the catholic church for going “the middle way”. And the piracy is also a wrong.
88. jfrater - January 27th, 2008 at 6:25 am
albert0: she was justly punished by the Church for what she did - and regardless, there is no excuse for murdering people because of their religious views or trying to force conversions. She did both of those things.
89. ed9362 - January 27th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Idiots! How can you not include Elizabeth Bathory The Countess Of Blood. Easily the most insane female killer of all time renouned for brutaly slaughtering hundreds of young women.
90. ed9362 - January 27th, 2008 at 8:01 am
web link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.....C3%A1thory
for your information
91. JwJwBean - January 27th, 2008 at 8:07 am
Ed: She was number 1 on http://listverse.com/crime/top.....il-women/. It was the first list of evil women.
92. jocsboss - January 27th, 2008 at 11:51 am
#2, Delphine LaLaurie, made my skin crawl, seriously. Eww.
Queen Elizabeth was certainly heartless, but, people, please remember “time and place”.
The behavior of people over our history has to be judged on the social mores that existed in the time and place that they lived in. I don’t think that it is right to hold people from centuries past to the standards of what we consider acceptable today.
93. DCD - January 28th, 2008 at 7:30 am
This Elizabeth this is getting silly. When she became Queen on the death of her sister, Mary, who nearly had her killed becausw she was not Catholic enough, the Pope issued a Bull for excomunication which in fact was nothing less than a death warrent.
She was immediately attacked by the existing rulers of Europe, (read Catholic and male). She successfully fought off either by dipomacy or war direct attacks on her and her country.
Certainly some Catholics were kill during her reign, but her sister, Mary, killer more Protestants during her short reign with much less reason.
She tried as best she could to leave religion alone unless it involved her safety or that of the country. You will notice that after the defeat of the Spanish Armada and in the later more stable period of her reign there was much less persecution of any kind.
By the lights of her own time, which is the only way anyone can be judged, she comes off pretty well.
94. jfrater - January 28th, 2008 at 7:36 am
DCD: excommunication is not the same as a death warrant - it simply excluded her from receiving the sacraments of the Catholic Church - something she had already refused anyway. Additionally, this is not a “who is worse, Mary or Elizabeth” - Mary is on the first list - Elizabeth murdered people for their religious views and forced them to convert to the religion that her father invented - that is evil regardless of quantity.
95. DCD - January 28th, 2008 at 7:49 am
Please, at the time, politically speaking, the point of the excommunication was to give the green light to whatever power existing to get rid of her. Much like the attempted excommunication of Henry the II who threatend to send his army to Rome.
The point is that unlike poor Mary who had people martyred for real reason except she didn’t like there religion, Elizabeth was operating under the very real problem that people were trying to kill her. And the people for the most part trying to kill her were Catholic. Not all Catholics just a very few. You can read and see that while to us her responses were extreme they fit in with the politica of her time and in fact for her time they are pretty moderate. She did not make all Cahtolics leave the country and Ferindand and Isabella did with the Jews. In fact she probably has the first ‘don’t ask, don’t tell policy regarding religion in the time. While it was mandatory to attend Church of England services the penalties were mild.
My point is that Elizabeth did not wake up one morning and decide to kill all the Catholics and keep there property. She was responding to real threat to her safety in the manner of the time.
Also poor old Mary shouldn’t be on any list either. She was obviously not responsible for her actions.
Given the history of their upbrining, it is remarkable that either did as well as they did.
96. Anderi - January 28th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
One issue I have with this list is Phoolan Devi.
I was led to believe that she took up her life as a bandit queen after being continuously brutalized and raped by men. For being a woman and a of a low caste.
The gang rape in the town was just the final straw.
The execution of the 20 men was her revenge.
Violence begets violence.
97. Anderi - January 28th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Also, this list shouldn’t have been rated by body count, but by motivation and crimes committed.
All those serial killers partnered or otherwise should’ve been top of the list.
I would’ve put that freako that tried to make mutants of her slaves and got away with it, number 1!
There’s a hollywood script right there!
98. Icecycle - January 29th, 2008 at 3:58 am
Scary people.
I know this sweet old lady that probably offed a few former husbands.
Gently.
So, she is old now, not a good marriage prospect; nothing can be proven, and what the hell; I can be wrong.
Besides, she is a sweet old lady; just, you know, stay the hell away from her brownies.
(know what I mean?)
Case two.
I also know of one other version of the human ‘black widow spider’ this ‘bitch’ kills with ongoing pain and suffering.
(but, this cannot be proven at present; but I am kinda keeping watch.)
99. Satori - January 29th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Ok, first of all please please please stop making disparaging remarks about women as a whole being evil the lesser sex etc. Be jaded by yourself, don’t slander and spread your obvious ignorant opinions. HUMAN BEINGS have the capability of great evil and great beauty-it is not mutually exclusive to one sex or another. I hope that there is a “most evil men” list. If not, I’ve got a few suggestions. Also, as sick as this sounds, what about a list of the worst cases of child abuse-there are some pretty sick foster parents/parents out there-the story of Sibyl, made into a movie with Sally Fields-OMG-at one point her doctor found broken glass inserted into her vagina-he said nothing-the dad knew, and said nothing. Also, there’s a book called “A child called it”, it’s pretty bad too. And of course, Eunice Spry (that’s fucking evil) and the death of Victoria Climbie-The reason I mention it is because I feel that child abusers are EASILY as evil as murderers and dictators etc.
Suggestion: Top 10 most evil children. Saddly, there are quite a few.
100. Satori - January 29th, 2008 at 7:10 am
Also, Phoolan Devi (#3)-what was the reason for her Nobel Peace Prize nomination? That’s pretty messed up.
101. jfrater - January 29th, 2008 at 7:18 am
Satori: we have a top 10 evil children already: http://listverse.com/crime/top-10-evil-children/
102. Johnny - January 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
HEY! Ann Coulter is missing.
103. Kellence - January 30th, 2008 at 9:09 pm
Thanks jfrater,still looking for information on women that kill if you have any web sites. I’m writing a paper for my law class. (other than lawlibrary),i’ve used that one already. Thanks folks!!
104. JwJwBean - January 30th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
http://www.crimelibrary.com/ Is that the one you have used already?
105. Mickilyne - February 8th, 2008 at 2:46 am
I am surprised that I am not on your list- there is not a single one of you who knows who I am, obviously, and yet I have been labelled the most evil female in Canada (yes, considered more so even than ms. Homolka) and locked up since I was sixteen.(I am twenty nine now)
At sixteen years of age, I made the mistake of actually having sympathy for Paul Bernardo, because I was such a sweet girl that I could not stand to see the world against someone who did not seem to have even one friend, so I (stupidly) called the mother of one of the victims and left a nasty message on her answering machine.
Not the nicest thing I’ve ever done, but by far and away the worst; I have, however, NEVER raped, killed, or physically hurt a human being in the entire of my life, and yet I have been locked away ever since.
Why? Because apparently, the authorities took one look at me, in all of my long blond hair and blue eyed glory, and thought they were looking at another Homolka- they then proceeded to lock me away, and ruin my life.
The only harm I have ever physically inflicted on anyone has been upon myself; before the system murdered me, I was a real beauty.
Not anymore.
While trying to escape the nightmare, I tried to kill myself more times than I can count, and I have horrendous, thick lacerations on my neck and arms to prove it- and yet, never once did anyone feel any need to lessen up on the torment… it persists to this day.
As I type this up, I am currently situated in a halfway house, where I have been imprisoned for the past four years, and I can assure you as God is my witness that I committed absolutely no crime to be put here.
Although this all must undoubtedly sound like nonsensical drivel to you, since the government has made sure to keep my name out of the media lest someone be horrified at what has and is being done to me, I can assure you that you will hear all about it someday.
My name is Michelle Lyne Lisson- remember it, and stay tuned.
106. Mickilyne - February 8th, 2008 at 2:48 am
Every dog shall have their day.
107. Kellence - February 8th, 2008 at 7:12 am
Mickilyne,How did they build a case against you if you haven’t done anything? If your story is true and you haven’t hurt anyone,why would you be on THIS list then? Maybe you were being sarcastic but something brought you to look at the list to begin with. I’m puzzled. If your story is true i’m very sorry for the injustice done to you.Don’t you have family or friends that know your situation that could help you? Tell us more………..
108. Mickilyne - February 8th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Aww,well thank you for your sympathies… although I am not a pitiful person, (or so I like to believe) I DO appreciate the decency and compassion of your tone.
Unfortunately, It is ALL true.
No, I do not have family, and as such, no proper supports(i.e money for a proper lawyer)- you are a VERY sharp person, because I have been repeatedly told over the past few years that my lack of supports is WHY the government is getting away with this.
Unfortunately, I grew up in foster care, and was adopted when I was eight, by a woman who gave me away when I was fourteen.
Unloaded me back on to the system, because she married a man who had two daughters…. a ready made family, no need to keep me anymore.
Oh well, it happens…. boo hoo for me.
Now, as to why I searched on to this topic: I was looking for myself, because everything I have told you is 100% true… so wouldn’t you think that the world would know my name?
Everytime a so-called ‘high risk male’ is released into a halfway house or back into society,the police make sure people know it- but not so with me.
Why? Two reasons.
1. They do not want people like yourself to raise a public outcry once the details of my situation are unravelled.
2. They do not want ‘evil men’ to catch a glimpse of me and come flocking to me.
You have my guarantee that when all is said and done, my name will be on your list.
Cheers.
(Regardless of how terrible one’s life may get, may we find solace in the knowledge that it is ALL a means to an end!)
109. Kellence - February 8th, 2008 at 9:45 pm
All of this for a phone call?? Something isn’t right, haven’t you come across a kind person who would listen to you in all this time? Havent you been exposed to a lawyer at all? Are you still in Canada? Lots of questions I know, but this whole thing is twisted. Why hasn’t anyone rescued you yet?? How can you be expected to live your whole life in a cage for a phone call? What are you planning to do now? I really wish you the best!!!
110. LinkiDink - February 14th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
I used to live in New Orleans, and I specifically had Lalaurie in mind when I saw the subject of this and the the first list. She and her husband were disgusting people, and it really is a shame that they escaped without any real consequence. I can only hope they didn’t find the opportunity to harm anyone else.
111. prianca - February 21st, 2008 at 10:31 am
I dont really think phoolan devi belongs on this list.yes, she was a dacoit and yes,she killed 22 men.but she was not evil.and she certainly doesnt deserve the third spot.
she was married when she was 11 to a man thrice her age.after facing discrimination all her life and being abused and abandoned by her husband she was raped by policemen and then a gang of dacoits abducted her….you cant really blame her for turning into a dacoit,can you?
soon, she was captured during a bad robbery and then gang-raped.after an escape ,it is these men she killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoolan_Devi
112. Mei - February 23rd, 2008 at 2:31 am
I really agree with Priana. She said what I wanted to comment here after reading the list.
113. Mei - February 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 am
Delphine LaLaurie should definitely be the most heartless, evil, cruel, all the superlatives of badness.
114. Mickilyne - February 23rd, 2008 at 4:00 am
Funny what a Government can do to destroy an innocent person sometimes: what happened to Phoolan Devi……… when your Government labels you a villian, that is IT for you- and then it becomes all about survival after that, and anything you do to protect yourself will be turned against you and made to look bad- the only solace that I am able to find when hearing of or actually experiencing situations like that, is in GOD…. at the end of it all, he WILL sort us out.
All we can do now is pray…
xoxoxox
115. Kellence - February 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 am
At least we do have that! If I can be of help,say so. I’m still working on my paper on women who kill. The information on this site will help a lot. xoxoxox
116. prianca - February 23rd, 2008 at 10:26 am
hey ,how abt adding Waneta Hoyt.
she actually killed 5 of her own babies.she confessed to smothering all of them with a pillow to still their crying.
117. Denzell - February 29th, 2008 at 5:06 am
I’m just wondering why Roerva Pelzer doesn’t qualify in the list. She abused her own sons, and a known case of this is the abuse of Dave Pelzer, and later, Dave’s brother Ronald.
118. Mickilyne - February 29th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Since you mention it, I was in prison with a (so-called) woman named Marcia Dooley… she and her husband tortured their seven year old child Randall to death… I know that the majority of women on this list have killed several people each, but if you google Marcia and read what you did; my God, that woman is a GHASTLY being.
I met her, and I can assure you that she is DEFINATELY capable of all that she is said to have done.
I feel dirty just MENTIONING her….yuck!!!!!!
119. prianca - March 1st, 2008 at 10:52 am
god! she is EVIL!.
120. JwJwBean - March 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pm
I was reading some more about #2. Delphine LaLaurie. There were 75 bodies located under floor boards when the house was remodeled. They had been buried alive. People heard moans and screams coming from the house after the night of finding the people in the attic, but thought they were ghosts. No one would go in to invstigate the screams.
121. Veronica - March 10th, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Number 2 was extremely evil! What a cold woman. And for those of you feminazis bitching about Number 8, you are crazy! She killed random men not the ones that raped her, and even if she did kill the ones that raped her, that still doesn’t make it right.
122. Veronica - March 10th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I’m sorry, I meant number 3 had no right to kill those men.
123. prianca - March 14th, 2008 at 11:26 am
no,she killed the men who raped her but yes some other were killed accidently but these were the same men who watched while she was raped.
and we might be ‘feminazis’ but if i was in her position i wud do the same thing…..and atleast i am being honest abt it..
124. mickilyne - March 14th, 2008 at 5:10 pm
I just want to post to say that since I first posted on here, this site/page has probably attracted more attention than ever before……………….the webmaster or site-proprieter MUST have noticed this.
I am posting on here, for the final time, to thank those of you who take such an avid interest in me…. it is your constant attentions that have helped me to get through all of this, because even though your attentions are ill-intended, I am sure, you make me feel very close with certain celebrities…………you may talk badly about me, but at least you talk.
If I were not just a bit more fascinating than the average person, would all eyes be on me?
I love my fans.
Thank you SO much. (Hugs n kisses to all!)
P.s those that this message is directed at know who they are.
P.p.s And to the men who have recently tried to contact me… wait until next year, guys, and we shall see.
xoxox
125. Mickilyne - March 21st, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Guess what, everyone?
I had planned to not write even one more entry on here, but I feel that I MUST, because I am putting pieces of the puzzle together, finally.
I know WHY the Government has done this to me.
I am a scapegoat.
A political one.
I am horrified to have discovered that an NDP representitive, a Ms Cheri DiNovo, sat on the Parole Board two years ago…. and before that.
She helped to make the decision to keep me in the state that I am in, and I know WHY; if you Wikipedia Cheri DiNovo, you’ll see that she was chastised several years back for making comments about Karla Homolka that apparently seemed kind. This was around the time that they let Karla out.
I now understand that is is highly likely that because Karla was getting out, (due to the shoddy deal given to her) all efforts have been made to dehumanize me and make me appear as a monster so that everyone could shift their attentions to tormenting me, and keeping me locked up…………
I have become a convenient scapegoat, and if you all only knew how terrible and disgusting this is, you would be HORRIFIED.
I was born to a drug addict/alcoholic prostitute, and was likely raped repeatedly by men who visited my mother’s apartment from the age of two to the age of five- to be honest, I remember most of it, although I have never mentioned this to a single soul.
My mother bought drugs and starved me, so for the first four years of my life, I was starved and raped damn near every night.
I was finally taken by ambulance to a hospital at the age of five, where a rape test was performed on me, and I was removed from my mothers care immediately and placed in foster care for two years, were was again assaulted.(In at least two seperate homes)
Unfortunately, I had the misfortune of being an exceptionally pretty little girl, as any remaining pictures of me at that time will attest to. It would seem, in hindsight, that the CAS had trouble getting pedophiles to keep their hands off of me anywhere I went.( In one of my Foster homes, I even had my foster parents drag me kicking and screaming out of a toy box in my room, where I was trying to hide from a sexual assault underneath a pile of stuffed animals, and I remember this as if it happened yesterday)
Anyway, that was the first seven years of my life.
At eight, I was adopted by a wealthy young couple in Dundas Ontario, who, it turned out, were unable to have children of their own- this was placing a strain on the marriage, so I was to be the saving grace.
It did not work.
When I was ten, they divorced, and I remained in the home with my adoptive mother, who turned the balance of her wrath upon me.
I could not handle this, and began to run away from the abuse, by running out of the home at all times of the day and night.
Finally, I was placed in a group home, and visited on my fourteenth birthday with papers to sign by my adoptive mother, saying that she had unadopted me.
In the group homes, I lived with very troubled and volatile adolescents- When Paul Bernardo was arrested, I, like everyone else, paid very close attention to the case, and soon discovered that expressing sympathy for him ( by saying ‘ How can you guys say all of that mean stuff when he hasn’t even been convicted?) was a way to get people around me incensed, and because I had issues of being bullied due to my small size, I soon learned that if I acted REALLY interested in him, it caused people to think that I was a little strange, and leave me alone.
That is the balance of and the explanation behind my purported evil.
At sixteen years of age, in a desperate desire to actually be sent to prison in order to escape negative living conditions in a group home, I called Ms mahaffy, and said a couple of nasty things.
If I remember correctly, I felt justified, because I was a little upset at her having locked Leslie out of the house and all, having had my own adopted mother do the same thing to me.
By this time, as I said before, I was not very hard on the eyes (I could hardly say the same now, though! LOL!) Long blond hair, bleached several shades lighter than my natural gold, on account of being a Beverly Hills 90210 fan like every other adolescent at the time.
I will never understand why it is that not one single adult I ever encountered at that time ( social workers, child care workers, police officers) ever even once sat me down to explain to me that Paul Bernardo was a bad man, and that what I had done was a very cruel thing to do.
They had difficulty seeing me as the naive child I was, I believe, because they were looking at me and seeing Karla Homolka, due to my appearence. ( I had more than a couple of photos taken around this period, and I am sure that most of them are still floating around out there somewhere!!!)
Ms Homolka was twenty four at the time.
Instead of trying to set me straight, all I got from people (in my naive, impressionable state) were evil looks, nasty comments, and cruel treatment.
I wound up serving two years in a youth facility for a phone call.
When I was released, now a CAS ward again, the CAS paid for me to get an apartment, then came to me in the second month, in 1999, and told me that they could no longer support me, and gave me my last check.
I was left with nothing, and with noone.
With no way to pay for my apartment and NOT EVEN ONE SUPPORT (familial or otherwise), I ended up having a psychiatric breakdown, and I set the carpet in my hallway on fire in a suicide bid.
Since then, my life has been a nightmare.
A woman wrote a book called ‘Paul’s case’ about a ‘fan’ of Mr Bernardo, and I strongly believe that people mistook the fictional book to be about me, which it ABSOLUTELY was NOT!!!
As a result, when I went inside, I was treated horribly, every where I went.
I, who never harmed anyone, never did a single thing to a single soul.
I am the unknown Scapegoat, the whipping girl of the government- in order to not feel guilty about having to let Karla go, they have focussed every possible attention on tormenting me.
I have been locked up FOR THAT SUICIDE ATTEMPT since 1999, and during that time, I have never been involved in even one physical altercation, NEVER, EVER harmed even one single soul,and yet everywhere I have gone, everything I have tried to do, it has been as if I were a scarlet woman- I even had the Toronto sun write a couple of articles about me calling me a ‘Bernardo fan’ and saying that I was ‘violent’, both of which are terrible untruths)
I still have pedophiles follow me relentlessly, and this is my life- I have always harbored a desire to join the army and defend my country, and I have always had a passion for politics, possibly instilled by my adoptive mother, who used to take me out delivering campaign fliers for local NDP reps.
It is highly ironic that I now discover that the very political party that I have helped in years past ( during the federal election, I made history inside of a federal prison by urging politically uninvolved women to come out and vote… ordinarily, in a women’s prison, during an election,the vote returners will be lucky if FIVE women show up, and I got over forty to pore in through the gym doors and sit down to vote) it is this political party that may hold some responsibility for what has been done to me.
It will NEVER ever be said that I was not an intelligent woman with boundless potential, but, unfortunately, my Government would rather kill me.
I just recently went on to a website to sign a petition for a woman named Brenda Martin, who is being held unlawfully (as most claim) in a Mexican prison, because I am familiar with prison conditions (including suicide watches) and I am familiar with being in Prison for nothing.
I made the mistake of signing the petition with my real name, and it was deleted.
There is nothing that I can do- other than continue to suffer repeatedly- that will satisfy my Government.
For some strange reason, God has decided that it is my lot in life to live every single moment in persecution and suffering, for absolutely no crime at all.
I am not allowed to do ANYTHING except be a constant effigy for all of the governments failures and shortcomings concerning Karla Homolka.
And that is the truth.
So, I hope that Karla is enjoying her freedom, because I am serving the sentence and receiving all of the treatment that should have been hers.
Paul, Karla, and the Canadian Governments Body Count:
1. Tammy Lyn Homolka
2. Leslie Erin Mahaffy
3. Kristen Dawn French
4. Michelle Lynn Lisson
The reason that I came back on this site to post this, is because during my initial post, I did not understand WHY any of it.
Now I do.
And with regards to my previous narcissistic sounding post- most of it was sarcasm, directed at certain folks in my life who ALL have me confused with Karla Homolka, and pore over and watch my every move avidly, up to the point of Internet stalking.
I am not a bad person at all, or an evil person.
THAT is why I am not on your list.
P.S I had been considering penning an autobiography, but I think I just did it here!!!!!!!
P.s To the list writer: No matter what should happen in the future, please do not EVER add me to your list, because I so far removed from these women that it is obscene.
But, would you consider adding Cheri DiNovo? Just kidding.
P.P.S To Karla Homolka, who undoubtedly glances at this page from time to time: Happy Easter. Hope you are enjoying it with your wonderful new family, something that Tammy, Leslie, Kristen and I will all NEVER be able to have.
126. Allie - April 1st, 2008 at 7:01 am
i think the lists should be combined
127. Eric Gmeinder - April 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
A third list? Good idea. Here are 5 more:
Velma Barfield
Gertrude Baniszewski
Jane Toppan
Tzu Hsi
Catherine the Great
128. Brianne - April 6th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I’m with the others that commented; as I place revenge (even misguided revenge) on a different level than sadistic killing of innocents, Phoolan Devi does not deserve to be #3 on this list, or possibly on the list at all.
129. AngieWangieMangie - April 24th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
How about Magda Goebbels? She killed her 6 children and all because of the “führer”… yuck!!! I’d like to think she did it to protect them but… I just can’t… How can a mother do that? I think that’s pure evil (as everything else related to the Holocaust…)
130. Carmella - May 9th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Elizabeth Bathory should be on this list too.
131. Slammerworm - May 10th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Mickilyne; Just can’t get enough of yourself, eh? You’re not on the list because you are a self-obsessed weirdo. Ever try writing anything which didn’t have ‘I’ in every sentence? Oh, and ‘..I still have pedophiles follow me relentlessly’, eh? You’re an adult now, so why would pedophiles be interested in you at all? And what’s more, over the years you’ve done a far better job of killing yourself than the government has. Hope you get back to your own planet ok.
132. Dede - May 16th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Have you heard of Gesche Gottfried? In 15 years she killed 15 people by rat poison (and tried it on another 20) and at the same time cared for them until they were dead (her 3 children, her parents, two husbands and friends were the victims). She lived around 1850 at Bremen, Germany and was beheaded in the end.