Top 15 Influential Musicians
Published on December 11, 2007 - 223 Comments
The musical genre, much akin to movies and film makers, is as widely varied as one subject can possibly be. Spanning generations as well as styles; ranging from gospel to funk, from rockabilly to soul, music as a whole has changed lives, encompassed eras, and become, to many, as powerful a messenger as religion. Here are fifteen of the most influential musicians of all time.
15. Bill Haley & The Comets (1952)
Bill Haley & His Comets was an American Rock & Roll band that was founded in 1952 and continued until Haley’s death in 1981. The band, also known by the names: Bill Haley and The Comets and Bill Haley’s Comets (and several variations thereof), was one of the earliest groups of white musicians to bring rock and roll to the attention of white America and the rest of the world. Bandleader, Bill Haley, had previously been a country and western performer; after recording a country and western-styled version of ‘Rocket 88′, a rhythm and blues song, he changed musical direction to a new sound that eventually came to be called Rock and Roll.
14. The Supremes (1961)
One of Motown’s signature acts, The Supremes were the most successful African American musical act of the ’60s, recording twelve American-Number One Hits between 1964 and 1969.Many of these singles were written and produced by Motown’s main songwriting and production team, ‘Holland-Dozier-Holland’, and the crossover success of the Supremes during the mid-’60s paved the way for future black Soul and R&B acts to gain mainstream audiences and success both in the US and overseas.
13. Queen (1970)
Queen are an English Rock band formed in 1970 in London by guitarist Brian May, lead vocalist Freddie Mercury, drummer Roger Taylor, and bassist John Deacon (joining the following year). Queen rose to prominence during the 1970s and are one of Britain’s most successful bands of the past three decades. The band is noted for their musical diversity, multi-layered arrangements, vocal harmonies and incorporation of ‘Audience Participation’ into their live performances. Their 1985 Live Aid performance was voted the best live music performance of all time in a BBC poll.
12. George Clinton & Parliament/Funkadelic (1978)
George Clinton (born July 22, 1941 is an American Musician and the principal architect of P-Funk. He was the mastermind of the bands ‘Parliament’ and ‘Funkadelic’ during the 1970s and early 1980s, and was a solo funk artist as of 1981. He has been hailed as “The Prime Minister of Funk” as the leader of ‘Parliament’, as well as “The King of Interplanetary Funksmanship”. Though Clinton’s popularity had waned by the mid 1980s, he experienced something of a resurgence in the early 1990s, as many rappers cited him as an influence and began ’sampling’ his songs. George Clinton is considered to be one of the most sampled musicians ever.
11. Bob Dylan (1941)
Bob Dylan (born Robert Allen Zimmerman, May 24, 1941) is an American Singer/Song Writer, Author, Musician, and Poet who has been a major figure in Popular Music for five decades. Much of Dylan’s most celebrated work dates from the 1960s, when he became an informal chronicler and a reluctant purveyor of American unrest. A number of his songs, such as “Blowin’ in the Wind” and “The Times They are A’ Changin’” became important anthems of the anti-war and civil-rights movements.
10. Black Sabbath (1968)
Black Sabbath are an English Heavy Metal band from Birmingham. The original band line up of Ozzy Osbourne (vocals), Tony Iommi (guitar), Terence “Geezer” Butler (bass), and Bill Ward.Black Sabbath remain a dominant influence in the heavy metal genre they helped create. VH1’s 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock ranks them second, behind Led Zeppelin. The original and best known line-up are frequently credited as the inventors of the heavy metal genre. Black Sabbath have sold over 100 million albums worldwide.
9. Led Zeppelin (1968)
Led Zeppelin were (and are, though without John Bonham, as of 2007) an English Rock Band that formed in September 1968. Led Zeppelin consisted of Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Paul Jones, and John Bonham. With their heavy, guitar-driven sound, Led Zeppelin are regarded as one of the first, and most influential, Heavy Metal bands. Their rock-infused interpretation of the blues and folk genres also incorporated: Rockabilly, Soul, Funk, Jazz, Celtic, Latin and Country. The band did not release the popular songs from their albums as singles in the UK as they preferred to develop the concept of ‘Conceptual Album-Oriented Rock’.
8. Pink Floyd (1964)
Pink Floyd are an English Rock band that initially earned recognition for their Psychedelic music, and, as they evolved, for their progressive rock music. They are known for philosophical lyrics, Sonic Experimentation, innovative Album Cover Art, and elaborate live shows. One of rock music’s most successful acts, the group has sold over 300 million albums worldwide and an estimated 74.5 million albums in the United States alone. The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) spent 741 consecutive weeks on the USA-based Billboard 200 album chart, the longest duration in history. It is also the Fifth Highest-Selling album Globally of all time with more than forty million units sold.
7. The Grateful Dead (1965)
The Grateful Dead was an American rock band formed in 1965. The band was known for its unique and eclectic style, which fused elements of Rock, Folk, Bluegrass, and Gospel among many others—and for live performances of long Musical Improv. In particular, the band, as one of the first to do so, frequently made use of “long jams”—whereby Jerry Garcia (lead vocals) would spend lengthy periods engaging in rock lead guitar solos that evoked various “depth moods.” Other bands utilized long improvisational jams, but “The Dead” took it to extremes. “Their music,” Lenny Kaye wrote, “touches on ground that most other groups don’t even know exists”.
6. KISS (1971)
KISS is an American Rock Band formed in 1971. Easily identified by their trademark face paint and stage outfits, KISS rose to prominence in the mid-’70’s on the basis of their elaborate live performances, which, as the most prominent band to do so, featured fire-breathing, blood spitting, smoking guitars, and pyrotechnics. Kiss has been awarded 24 ‘Gold Albums’ to date. The group’s worldwide sales exceed 95 million albums. The original lineup of Gene Simmons (bass and vocals), Paul Stanley (rhythm guitar and vocals), Ace Frehely (lead guitar and vocals) and Peter Criss (drums and vocals) is the most successful and identifiable.
5. The Sex Pistols (1975)
Sex Pistols are an English Punk Rock Band that formed in London in 1975. The band originally comprised vocalist Johnny Rotten, guitarist Steve Jones, drummer Paul Cook, and bassist Glen Matlock (later replaced by Sid Vicious). Although their initial career lasted only three years and produced only four singles and one studio album, the Sex Pistols have been described by the BBC as “the definitive English punk rock band.” The Pistols are widely credited with initiating the punk movement in the UK and creating the first generation gap within Rock & Roll.
4. Elvis Presley (1935-1977)
Elvis Aaron Presley (1935-1977), was an American Singer, Musician and Actor. He is a ‘cultural icon’ often known as “The King of Rock ‘n’ Roll”, or simply “The King”. Presley began his career as one of the first performers of Rockabilly (an up-tempo fusion of country and Rhythm and Blues with a strong ‘Back Beat’ His novel versions of existing songs, mixing ‘black’ and ‘white’ sounds, made him popular—and controversial—as did his uninhibited stage and television performances. He recorded songs in the Rock & Roll genre, with tracks like “Hound Dog” and “Jail House Rock”, later embodying the style. Presley had a versatile voice and had unusually wide success encompassing other genres, including gospel, blues, ballads and pop. To date, he is the only performer to have been inducted into four music Halls of Fame.
3. Nirvana (1988)
Nirvana was an American Rock Band that was formed by singer/guitarist Kurt Cobain and bassist Krist Novoselic in Aberdeen (near Seattle), Washington in 1988. Nirvana went through a succession of drummers, with the longest-lasting being Dave Grohl, who joined the band in 1990.With the lead single, “Smells Like Teen Spirit” from their extremely influential 1991 album Nevermind. Nirvana entered into the mainstream, bringing along with it a subgenre of alternative rock called ‘Grunge’, instantly recognizable by its flannel-and-denim jeans dress as well as its near ‘Emo’ appearance and style.
2. The Rolling Stones (1962)
The Rolling Stones are an English Rock Band formed in London in 1962. The band has released 55 albums of original work and compilations, and have had 32 U.K & U.S top-10 singles. They have sold more than 200 million albums worldwide. 1971’s Sticky Fingers began a string of eight consecutive studio albums at number one in the United States. In 1989 the Rolling Stones were inducted into the American ‘Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’ and in 2004 they were ranked number 4 in Rolling Stone magazine’s ‘100 Greatest Artists of all Time’. Their latest album was released in 2005 and accompanied by the band’s highest grossing tour, which lasted into late summer 2007. The Bigger Bang tour had been declared the highest-grossing tour of all time, earning $437 million and landing them in the Guiness Book of World Records.
1. The Beatles (1960)
The Beatles were an English Rock Band from Liverpool, England whose members were John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, and Ringo Starr. They are one of the most commercially successful and critically acclaimed bands in the history of popular music.
In the UK, The Beatles released more than 40 different singles, albums, and EP’s that reached number one. This commercial success was repeated in many other countries: their record company, EMI, estimated that by 1985 they had sold over one billion discs and tapes worldwide. The Beatles are the best-selling Musical Act of all time in the US. according to the RIAA. In 2004, Rolling Stone magazine ranked The Beatles #1 on its list of 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. According to that same magazine, their innovative music and cultural impact helped define the 1960s, and their influence on pop culture is still evident today.
Contributor: StewWriter
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1. andy91198 - December 11th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Great list! I agree with just about all the choices AND spots
2. Denashi - December 11th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
Great list!
3. wowzer - December 11th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Excellent list. At first I was skeptical about introducing new list writers in, Stew, but I must admit, you do a good job following in the footsteps of THE MAN HIMSELF Jamie.
4. dazednconfused - December 11th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Oh, come on. Why is KISS, Nirvana and The Sex Pistols in front of Zeppelin, Floyd and Dylan?
5. wowzer - December 11th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Because KISS, Nirvana, and The Sex Pistols really kicked off their genres of music, whereas Zeppelin, Floyd and Dylan merely expounded on them. Though I do think Pink Floyd should be a leeeeetle higher.
6. dazednconfused - December 11th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
But KISS, Nirvana and the Sex Pistols suck…
7. wowzer - December 11th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
The fact that they don’t suit your personal tastes do not detract from their impact in the world of music.
8. crashgate - December 11th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
Bill Haley & The Comets???? Who????
9. PeteFloyd - December 11th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
What? No Harry Potter and the magical meat wands?
10. Ashley - December 11th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
What about Michael Jackson?
11. Bryce - December 11th, 2007 at 5:30 pm
great list. i knew beatles was gonna be top but i think the supremes should be higher based on there influence in society.
12. Manov - December 11th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Oh come on, Jimi Hendrix should be on this list. He probably did more to redefine how we view the guitar more than any musician has with any other instrument.
13. Diogenes - December 11th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Who’s Bob Dylan?
14. g c - December 11th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Here’s what I think:
I’m astounded KISS is on the list, not to mention surprised at how high they are ranked. If you want influential for anthem rock, I think you have to say it’s Quiet Riot for getting it onto the map in the first place. And really, how many semi-theatrical anthem-rock bands do you see in KISS’s mold? GWAR?
No love for hip-hop? Eric B. and Rakim, Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, Beastie Boys, Wu-Tang, NWA, Young MC (the last one is a joke)?
Without Jimi Hendrix, you don’t have Zep or George Clinton. Without Chuck Berry, you don’t have Jimi Hendrix. Without Muddy Waters, you don’t have Chuck Berry. Without Robert Johnson, you don’t have Muddy Waters. So I guess the final question is this: Where’s Robert Johnson (or anyone I just listed off for that matter)?
I feel David Bowie deserves a place on the list somewhere at the very least.
The Sex Pistols could be on the list, but they really shouldn’t be that high. Where’s the footprint they left today? Modern “punk” references Blink 182 and Greenday. The two bands I just mention cite The Ramones as their primary influence. I could make the same argument for influential English punk band for The Clash.
Bob Dylan is far too low on the list.
If we’re also talking about general musicians, we also have to note other non-pop generas like classical (Andres Segovia, Franz Liszt, Glenn Gould, Yo Yo Ma), Jazz (Miles Davis, Glenn Miller, Hoagy Carmichael, Jelly Roll Morton, Scott Joplin, Django Reinhardt), blues (B.B. King, Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, Son House, Leadbelly, Albert King, T-Bone Walker).
15. PeteFloyd - December 11th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
g c: Go write your own list then. No wait, go kill yourself. Yeah thats better.
16. Jibil - December 11th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
have you ever heard of classical music? Appart from that, great list.
17. brodog - December 11th, 2007 at 5:52 pm
KISS eats shit and swallows piss.
18. Idreno - December 11th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
I have to say, although I’m shocked that ABBA did not make the list - considering that, next to Queen, the fact of the matter is that they were the most harmonically and compositionally inventive group. This list is clearly related only to non-classical music and should be declared as such.
As much as I enjoy non-classical music - the truth of the matter is that none of these musicians can do anything but bow to the greatness of the likes of Palestrina, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Wagner and the likes. There is no question that these artists are great in their own rights, but none of this music would exist had it not been for the great composers of the past. To state for the record, as well, that it is arguable (and there are many musicologists, pianists, conductors and jazz musicians who agree and debate this constantly) that Beethoven is the inventor of “Jazz.” We know that Jazz has it’s roots in African music along with older American influences (ragtime for example), but Beethoven (the one who was deaf most of his life and therefore the most inventive and original composer of all time) in the 3rd variation of the 2nd movement of the Piano Sonata 32 in C, Opus 111, is the first example of what can be defined as “jazz.” The swung rhythms, syncopations, and harmonic progressions are all extremely advanced for that period of time and certainly would fit modern tastes over the tastes of the 1820’s Viennese public. Just wanted to lay out this very interesting fact for all those music lovers out there.
Unfortunately I think this list is incomplete and perhaps lists need to be prepared to discuss individual genres of music, rather than attempt to be all encompassing, which is practically impossible.
19. KKing - December 11th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Not bad, but Kiss doesn’t belong in the top 15. They did very little besides letting everyone know that you can get very far in the industry on just image rather than talent. And Michael Jackson should definitely be in the top 5, and Neil Young somewhere in the top ten.
20. jfrater - December 11th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
You gotta love the music lists to annoy people
21. wowzer - December 11th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
KKing: I like KISS enough, but I’d have to agree. They kinda did revolutionize the whole big-hair and shocking style thing though.
brodog: There’s a yo momma joke in the making here, but even I’m not that cruel.
22. Noah - December 11th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Jimi Hendrix… that’s all i can say
23. jfrater - December 11th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
Jibil: if you read the about page you will see that I studied classical music at a postgraduate level - so yes - I have heard of classical music and have given over many lists to the subject - and there are many more to come! try http://listverse.com/lists for some of those lists. if you have a particularly good classical list do send it in - I am always keen to expose people to more classical stuff. And welcome to the site
24. xdarkhorsex - December 11th, 2007 at 6:12 pm
not a bad list, however yes, Hendrix should definitely be on here, as should Johnny Cash. When Bob Dylan was asked who was his greatest influence, he said it was Johnny. Also, Willie Nelson has had a huge influence on the music industry, both in pop and country. he’s wrote more successful songs than any other writer.
25. xdarkhorsex - December 11th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
it’s impossible to write a “best of music” list that everyone can agree on, as it all really comes down to personal taste.
26. RajeshRao - December 11th, 2007 at 6:20 pm
screw you guys, im goin home…
27. wowzer - December 11th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
*”haduken”s RajeshRao home for him*
xdarkhorsex: Agreed. For example, while agree Bill Haley and the Comets were very influential, I can’t stand to listen to them for more than five minutes at a time. Or Earth, Wind, and Fire, along the same lines. And frankly, there are more genres with their own “influential” people in them than would be plausible to post without “WARNING: INCREDIBLY LONG LIST AHEAD” nametag. And even then people would probably still, as my mother put once put it, bitch like a stripey cat.
28. The Dum Guy - December 11th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Johnny Cash should be on here instead of KISS.
29. Sharki - December 11th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
My only disagreement with this list is with Queen. Queen is one the most talented bands ever and are still hugely popular today. But I don’t think they were really that influential as far as pushing music in a new directions or redefining a genera.
30. Rob - December 11th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
What, no Velvet Underground? Didn’t everyone who bought one of their albums start a band?
31. Blogball - December 11th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
How can this be the most influential musicians of all time when you are only covering two generations of music?
32. Juggz - December 11th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Jamie is stirring the pot again i see!
33. zubair kaka - December 11th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
what no Vanilla ICE? the king of rap!
34. Smartlydone - December 11th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Oh, I LUV Queen! Saw them in concert twice–during their Day at the Races tour, and again during their News of the World tour. No new genera, but still–no synthesizers!
35. Blogball - December 11th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
I’m not playing the race card or anything because I happen to be a white guy but including only one black group or musician on this list is just not right. Think about all the white musicians that were influenced by black artists. Elvis Presley included.
36. DiscHuker - December 11th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
i see two huge omissions…
where are the beach boys? the fusion of amazing harmonies, excellent instrumentation and pushing boundaries with their success, not just cranking out what everyone expects.
where is anything from the hip-hop/rap genre? eric b. and rakim, grandmaster flash, n.w.a…if we are talking about influence, you really missed the boat, stewie.
c’mon, you’ve got 6 different bands from the u.k. during the 60’s to early 70’s. how can they ALL be influential in the same place at the same time?
are you just sucking up to the brits that are on here?
37. Ravyn - December 11th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Blogball: I could make such a hugely heated debate out of that one comment that would end up with a comment list longer than the Steven King List could ever dream up possible. That said I think I will refrain
38. Bad News - December 11th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Wow, this is a really ambitious list — sure to provoke twits like me with very strong opinions regarding popular music.
To wit:
For the love of all that is holy, can we go back in time and prevent you from putting the Grateful Dead on this list?!?!? It would not be enough for that entry to simply be removed at this time; the fact that they were mentioned, EVER, as being influential, will keep me up tonight in a cold sweat.
And Pink Floyd sucked (mostly) after Syd left…
Great list, though. I would have liked to see Chuck Berry and/or Bo Diddley on here — Bo Diddley put the “rock” in “rock and roll”…
39. Monkey - December 11th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Awesome, awesome, AWESOME list StewWriter. I don’t necessarily agree with some of your selections, but this seriously made my night. I LOVE Rock music and I have great respect for anyone else who shares my appreciation. Just one question… where’s Janis?!
40. lando - December 11th, 2007 at 8:06 pm
good list…..agree with just about everything execept dylan should be atleast in the number 2 spot…and velvet underground should be on here somewhere….and KISS? really? KISS?
41. lando - December 11th, 2007 at 8:20 pm
also…..Bob Dylan’s biggest influence was Woody Guthrie, not Johnny Cash
42. Collin - December 11th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Come on, man, kiss? They are just the red headed step child of Alice Cooper. He’s the one who started the idea of stage shows/concerts and was the first to use heavy make-up
43. g c - December 11th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
I’m sure ol Bobby Dylan had a myriad of influences. Woody Guthrie is a huge one. I’ve also read on numerous occasions that he wanted to be “the next Elvis.” Given that, Johnny Cash was probably an influence as well. I think he also studied guitar with Andres Segovia as well. Talk about influences huh?
44. Reese - December 11th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Blogball: I agree with you about the race thing. Where are the black people? The Supremes are great, but I think it’s kind of offensive that Elvis is listed, but not those who influenced him. Almost all of these artists were influenced by black artists.
45. InconsistentAngelThings - December 11th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Michael Jackson should be on here somewhere.
And no way in HELL should Nirvana be before Elvis.
46. Arkz_Archduke_of_Geeks - December 11th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
what no frank zappa, stevie ray vaughn, ray charles, the who, bb king, i could name so many.. jimi hendrix…
47. NSEW - December 11th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
is this list based on how influential these musicians were on other musicians? or how influential they were on society?
if its music, then this list is excellent. if its for society and people, then what about rage against the machine?
48. mariposa - December 11th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
I would argue that Miles Davis and The Clash definitely need to be on this list.
49. mariposa - December 11th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry too.
50. aplspud - December 11th, 2007 at 10:07 pm
My parent’s names are Buddy and Holly. True story. Great list btw.
51. jardojo - December 11th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Some of you guys are confusing “most influential” with “first to influence”, big difference. Run DMC really should be up there though, hey…maybe they can replace KISS!
52. crashgate - December 11th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Top 3 should be in the order of 1. Beatles, 2. Elvis, 3. Rolling Stones
53. el duderino - December 11th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
This is a tough list to pull off. Do you put Dylan or Woodie Guthrie, Nirvana or the Pixies, the band that made it popular or the innovator?
Omissions, in my opinion:
Buddy Holly - invented the current R&R line up, over dubbing, etc. Paul McCartney owns his publishing rights and was heavily influenced, as was Dylan.
Velvet Underground - ask 3/4 of rock bands and they’ll cite the VU as a major influence.
The Pixies - Cobain said Smells Like Teen Spirit is as close to a Pixies Song as you can get without paying royalties.
Bo Diddley - delivered baby R&R from Momma Blues.
Chuck Berry - Stones, Beatles, Elvis, everyone since borrowed from him. Introduced diction to R&B.
Little Richard - Gee, who wasn’t influenced by this guy? David Bowie, Otis Redding, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, Mick Jagger, John Fogerty, Dick Dale, Bob Seger, Jimi Hendrix all cite him as a primary influence.
Queen, Kiss, The Dead, Black Sabbath? Are you just screwing with us? Kiss was just a pedestrian version of the NY Dolls. Queen is great band, who have they influenced? The Dead, who have they influenced other than Phish, and who cares about Phish? Sabbath is great, but you already have Led Zeppelin who defined metal until it became very gay and lame.
54. yodarulz90 - December 11th, 2007 at 10:37 pm
This is probably one of my top 3 favorite lists. Great Job
55. ty - December 11th, 2007 at 11:07 pm
Pixies and Velvet Underground should be on this list!!!! Most (good) modern rock bands will suggest one if not both as influences.
As stated below Kurt C. was influenced by the pixies. Nirvana leader Kurt Cobain was clear that without the Pixies, there never would have been a Smells Like Teen Spirit. So i guess they should be more influential then Nirvana.
56. Miss Destiny - December 11th, 2007 at 11:11 pm
Elvis, Queen, Nirvana, and Led Zepp, I LOVE YOU! I really like the list, my only beef is there is not one representative of country music! One of the following would have been grand: Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Hank Williams, Sr., Dolly Parton, Patsy Cline, I could go on! That aside I still agree with most of it.
57. shawn - December 11th, 2007 at 11:36 pm
I gotta agree that the omission of Buddy Holly is HUGE. With the things he pretty much invented, (i.e. overdubbing) and when MOST of he guys ON the list credit him as an influence, I gotta think he’s pretty influential. There’s a reaseon they called it “The Day The Music Died.”
58. Jacooob - December 11th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Terrible list. Just terrible.
I dont mean to hate, and I agree with some of those spots (3). But, may I ask, where is the Jazz? The Classical?
This just seems to be a list of very popular artists as the years go by. In which case, where is the rap?
You even write Most Influencial of “All Time”. All Time! Pay tribute to at least one classical composer that forever changed the face of music. Like Bach, with his Well-Tempered Clavier, the very first time someone bothered to write 2 pieces for every key in music. Or Beethoven who at the time was claimed to destroy music! Or at least pay tribute to a Jazz musician like John Coltrane, his ability alone changed the face of music since the standard to perform jazz became so high. Same with Jaco Pastorius. Cmon… not even Louis Armstrong?
59. Black Lutefisk - December 11th, 2007 at 11:56 pm
What he said. And it’s been said before: you guys are limiting yourself to one or two generations. Kiss is on your list, Bach isn’t . I don’t get it.
60. puddingpuppet - December 12th, 2007 at 12:11 am
Definitely should have Velvet Underground on here. They pretty much jump-started the whole punk rock movement with their attitude and lyrical content.
61. Chris G - December 12th, 2007 at 12:27 am
This is a very informed list but I would argue that David Bowie is the single most influential popular musician of the 20th century. Without Bowie there would be no glam, without which there would be no punk, without which there would be no new-wave, goth, or grunge, or even the alternative music movement of the 80’s and 90’s.
Also, much as I am bored by his ambient crap, Brian Eno practically invented electronica.
62. bp - December 12th, 2007 at 12:28 am
With all due respect to the original list, I can’t believe James Brown isn’t on here, nor in any of the comments. Parliment may be one of the most sampled bands in history but James Brown is the most sampled, period. That, as well as the fact that Parliment lends much of their sound to their bassist, Bootsy Collins who was one of the major bassists in Browns bands. James Brown not only took the soul and gospel music of the day and transformed it in to any of the funk or even disco of the seventies or eighties but his song forms and vocal styles pave the way for all of what we know as hip hop and rap today. Even music aside, the impact that he had on society, looking at the civil rights movement, is to be admired in its own right.
63. ed9362 - December 12th, 2007 at 12:37 am
Im no expert but as far as influence over australian music Nick cave in my humble opinion should be on there
64. Schiesl - December 12th, 2007 at 12:42 am
ok…missing the most influencial band of all time….WEATHER REPORT!!! it had miles davis and Jaco Pastorius! fools, they should be in the top five…if not #1
65. Amanda - December 12th, 2007 at 1:03 am
Oh good holy sweet jesus people! MY number 1 would be Dr. John–and not for the “Right Place Wrong Time” BS. You want a kick ass album? Dr. John–Gris Gris Gumbo Yaya. Listen and enough said (esp. Gris Gris, and Walk on Gilded Splinters) although every other song on that album is a trip fest. Respect the man for more than some commercial crap. And being a teen in the 90’s (born in 1983)–I see top 10 with Nirvana, but #3?? Nooo. My Daddy may have taught me better, but Zeppelin, Floyd, and Sabbath did a WHOLE lot more for me than that one note band.
66. Amanda - December 12th, 2007 at 1:12 am
Bah, just noticed it’s “Infuential Bands” so I retract my Dr. John (still check out Gris Gris though) but I stand by my anti-Nirvana statement. And who exactly did KISS influence?
67. Tadow - December 12th, 2007 at 1:25 am
this list is whack in my opinion. Bill Haley and the Comets??? Yeah they’re still influential (sarcasm) try Little Richard or Chuck Berry.
James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Charlie Parker, Bach, Robert Johnson, an assortment of hip hop cats, I could go on and on
Kiss before Alice Cooper?
The Sex pistols have no business at all on this list, they didn’t invent punk rock, you know?
68. Tadow - December 12th, 2007 at 1:27 am
When was Miles Davis in Weather Report?
69. EAL - December 12th, 2007 at 1:39 am
No Jimi Hendrix???
70. reg123456 - December 12th, 2007 at 1:45 am
Why isn’t Alice DJ in the list? LOL, just kidding!
71. Korangar - December 12th, 2007 at 3:14 am
Uhhh…i think you meant top 15 influential ROCK musicians? except you forgot jimi hendrix. and pixies. and the velvet underground. and now i just realized other people have already said that.
72. Lasse - December 12th, 2007 at 3:55 am
No Grandmaster Flash?
73. Movu - December 12th, 2007 at 4:28 am
No Velvet Underground?
74. nicci. - December 12th, 2007 at 4:36 am
coughbowiecough.
Eh, people are going to complain whatever you do. I’m just thrilled that I’ve seen two of the people/bands mentioned live [dylan and the stones - both of which absolutely deserve to be on this list. oh, and one third of nirvana].
So, guys, have you seen anyone from this list in concert? Who? I want details!
75. jfrater - December 12th, 2007 at 4:42 am
nicci: I have never been to a rock concert - I have seen lots of famous classical musicians though
76. dangorironhide - December 12th, 2007 at 4:47 am
nicci: one of the things that depresses me most is the knowledge that I will never see the ‘proper’ Queen live
77. dave - December 12th, 2007 at 6:21 am
probably the worst list (or the most inaccurately-named list) since this websites birth. So many genres have been left out I can’t even begin to think about what the real list should look like. It seems a whole five minutes of flipping through his cd rack has given the author all the info he needs.
78. evan - December 12th, 2007 at 6:25 am
KISS???? really?????
Wheres Jimi? MC5?
79. evan - December 12th, 2007 at 6:26 am
bob marley? (man i want my edit button back, even if it doesnt always work lol)
80. bucslim - December 12th, 2007 at 7:07 am
Stewie - Gotta make my plug for The Who. My reasoning is simple, most of the punk bands will tell you that they were heavily influenced by the Who. Not just the music either, the wild lifestyle, pissed off attitude and smashing up shit on stage - all of that started with the Who. Pure punk.
Jimi Hendrix not being mentioned is also a pretty huge error in my estimation. Also - it is difficult to place these bands if you don’t add some sort of qualifier like - rock, jazz, funk, rap, classical etc. You can’t really list these things unless there is a nod to Dr. Dre, Run DMC, NWA, Louis Armstrong, Duke Ellington, Miles Davis and the classical stuff. There’s a hell of a lot of soul artists that go back to James Brown, EWF. The Blues? - BB King, Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, John Lee Hooker and a butt-load more. Most progressive rock is snickered at, but that kind of experimental stuff was started by the Beatles, yes, but also the Doors. I mean, I don’t really want to say it but James Taylor influenced a shitload of dudes with a guitar and a single spotlight.
Also, who influenced some of the heavies you have on your list? Chuck Berry, Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson et al.
KISS shouldn’t be anywhere near this list. Who did they influence? Insane Clown Posse? Guar? Wildly popular? Yes, but influential, not really.
Another impossible list, but nice try.
What about John Tesh?
81. Cat Skyfire - December 12th, 2007 at 7:10 am
I think this list is titled wrong. Except for a few, they aren’t necessarily musicians, but singers, and for the most part, they’re groups, not individuals.
The supremes, to my knowledge, didn’t play any instrument when they performed. For the rest, they may have played instruments, but it was their work as a group that gave them prominence, not their specific skill with an instrument. (And while some may consider the voice of instrument, it gets its own word ’singer’ over musician, so I don’t think it counts.)
82. JMurf - December 12th, 2007 at 7:11 am
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
BEACH BOYS
83. DiscHuker - December 12th, 2007 at 7:25 am
stewie, where is the response? you are not on the top commenter list for nothing.
this is just alot of people talking if there is no counter-point.
c’mon, your momma’s ugly and she dresses you funny. (will that get you to come out and play?)
84. Barabas - December 12th, 2007 at 7:29 am
Rap doesnt exist at all?
85. bucslim - December 12th, 2007 at 7:40 am
Jane you ignorant slut
Dan you pompous ass
Disc - how’s that for point/counterpoint?
86. son of a … - December 12th, 2007 at 7:51 am
Describing Nirvana: “near ‘Emo’ appearance and style.” Dude!!! How in the hell do you compare Grunge and Emo!? I’m offended! lol Good list other than that
87. JOE ROSSON - December 12th, 2007 at 7:55 am
Looks like you might have to extend the list JF.
You probably should have worded your title better or more precise, like “top 15 ROCK musicians”. And mabey adding more lists to include diffrent genres.
88. zoe - December 12th, 2007 at 8:08 am
I would have had Radiohead 9they are AT LEAST as influential as Nirvana!).
Beach Boys. Pixies. R.E.M.
89. Johnathan - December 12th, 2007 at 8:27 am
VAN HALEN BRO!!!
90. kristin - December 12th, 2007 at 8:40 am
NO SKYNARD OR MARLEY!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU!!!
91. mercurymouth - December 12th, 2007 at 8:44 am
In terms of influence its got to be:
1. Elvis
2. Beatles
3. Bob Dylan
I don’t know if Hendrix should get on this list. Definitely an amazing, great creative musician, but how many musicians were directly influenced? What other popular musicians sounded like Hendrix? Same with the Doors. I don’t know, I hope I’m wrong because I love Hendrix (and the Doors). “Kiss should not get on this list”… I concur…
92. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 8:55 am
A list like this that leaves off The Smiths is utterly without credibility. Johnny Marr’s guitar style was copied all through the late 80s and into the 90s by dozens of different groups.
Bill Haley is *historically* important but no more influential than any other 50s rock and roller and arguably one could have included Jerry Lee Lewis or Little Richard there (or any number of others) and made the same point. No, Bill Haley doesn’t belong.
But then Buddy Holly SURELY does! And the same goes here as I said for The Smiths… a list claiming to name the TOP 15 INFLUENTIAL MUSICIANS that leaves off Buddy Holly is completely without credibility. Holly was an influence on nearly every British Invasion group there was, and remains an influence *to this day* on popular music. Cripes.
One could also say Roy Orbison should be here, though his influence was far less important…
But what about RAY CHARLES? Johnny Cash? CHUCK BERRY?
QUEEN? Who the hell did Queen influence? Or KISS for that matter? The only thing one could say about Kiss was that they were the best-known “Glam Rock” group—but if you want to name the top “Glam Rock” artists who had the most *influence,* you’d go for David Bowie and The New York Dolls.
So for that matter—where the hell is DAVID BOWIE? Far more an influence than either Kiss OR Queen!
It seems to me that whoever wrote this list made some of these selections because they mistook the popular for “influential.”
Of course, it was hard to get some of these wrong–as much as I’m no big fan of Pink Floyd, for example, I have to admit their influence… but come on—the glaring omissions—and the inclusion of Kiss and Queen—make this list mediocre at best.
93. Emily - December 12th, 2007 at 9:14 am
well, i guess i’m showing my age… or just my ignorance… but the only thing I know about Buddy Holly is the fact that Weezer mentions him (or it? is it a band or a person) in that song.
Yeah, I guess I am that dumb
94. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 9:16 am
I’m sorry, I’m so thrown by this list that I have to follow up my own previous posting… and I hate to use Wikipedia as a source, but it was the most convenient available… here are quotes from it on just THREE of the artists who SHOULD be on this list… bumping off Queen, Kiss, and Bill Haley, let’s say:
THE SMITHS:
“Considered by some critics to be the most important alternative rock band to emerge from the British indie scene of the 1980s, the Smiths have had a major influence on subsequent alternative music, including the Britpop movement and bands such as The Stone Roses, Radiohead, Blur, Suede, Oasis, The Libertines, The Verve and Doves.”
BUDDY HOLLY:
“In 2004, Rolling Stone Magazine ranked him #13 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. Although his career was cut short, his body of work is considered among the most influential in rock. His works and innovations were copied by his contemporaries and those who were to follow, including The Beatles and The Rolling Stones, and had a profound influence on popular music.”
CHUCK BERRY:
“Chuck Berry is an influential figure and one of the pioneers of rock and roll music. According to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s website, “While no individual can be said to have invented rock and roll, Chuck Berry comes the closest of any single figure to being the one who put all the essential pieces together.” Cub Koda wrote, “Of all the early breakthrough rock & roll artists, none is more important to the development of the music than Chuck Berry. He is its greatest songwriter, the main shaper of its instrumental voice, one of its greatest guitarists, and one of its greatest performers.” John Lennon was more succinct: “If you tried to give rock and roll another name, you might call it ‘Chuck Berry’.”"
Now come on. That’s just THREE. CHUCK BERRY should be in place of Bill Haley.
And frankly I don’t think Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd *really* belong here either. Pink Floyd was an influential group… but again—more than Bowie? I’m not even sure they were more influential, than, say, Roxy Music.
Come off it. This list was written by someone who knows *the popular* groups, but doesn’t know the real *history.*
95. bucslim - December 12th, 2007 at 9:17 am
Hello Randall! I buggered off for a while (because you told me to)
I do agree with you this time. Ommissions galore, read my earlier post. But I wasn’t really into the Smiths, so I can’t really comment on that. I’ll have to take your word for it.
And by the way, did you know that David Bowie said he was trying to imitate Syd Barrett from early Pink Floyd?
This list is reminding me of the Beatles list.
96. bucslim - December 12th, 2007 at 9:22 am
But I do disagree with you about Floyd. First in space and all.
They had a shitload of heavies going to their sound experimentation concerts in the late 60’s. (like the aforementioned Bowie)
I never really got into Roxy, so I’m not sure where your coming from there. Floyd definitely had a much bigger impact - but I can’t really say about influence.
97. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 9:25 am
“And by the way, did you know that David Bowie said he was trying to imitate Syd Barrett from early Pink Floyd?”
No, I never heard that, though it’s possible. As I said in both my postings, I acknowledge Floyd’s influence… but the more I think about it, placing them in the top 15… not so much. Bowie may have based some of his style on Syd, but I’d argue that Bowie ended up being the more major influence on subsequent musicians.
But that’s a minor point–what bothers me much more is the inclusion of Kiss and Queen—two mediocre, non-influential groups—and the terrible omissions I pointed out.
And no one has to take MY word on The Smiths—they need only look it up… *practically anywhere.*
98. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 9:30 am
Buclsim: “I never really got into Roxy, so I’m not sure where your coming from there.”
Well, my point was, there are lots of groups you could pick out of the air that had some pretty heavy influence on subsequent groups and artists… Roxy would be one of them. But just because you didn’t get into them, doesn’t mean they didn’t have their influence.
But I’m not stumping for Roxy Music… I AM saying that several of these selections just plain don’t belong here, and there are several that should *definitely* been on here, and were left off.
I would not have included Black Sabbath–again, not because they *lacked* influence—but the question is, should they be in the top 15? On a list that leaves off The Smiths, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry and Johnny Cash? Or Ray Charles? Or cripes… Bo Diddley for that matter? Come on.
99. Emily - December 12th, 2007 at 9:33 am
jfrater: geez, nothing like a music list to get everyone pissy, is there?
100. AnotherEngine - December 12th, 2007 at 9:33 am
Who did Hendrix really influence that is of any importance today? Lenny Kravitz? Gee….thanks, Jimi.
I don’t feel Queen is that influential & feel a band such as Nirvana is too modern to make the list. They have surely influenced plenty of musicians, and not-so-much musicians that exist these days but again, what are those bands contributing to the long term? We’d have to wait to see. The VU & Beach Boys do belong as does a representative of the early blues greats that then influenced Zep & Sabbath, who then in turn influenced Nirvana, etc…
To me, to have a list of true influences you have to go back to the original sources and what their contributions were, if you’re only going to pick 10 or 15 to start with. That’s where Robert Johnson, Blind Lemon Jefferson, Bill Haley, Buddy Holly, Elvis, Cash, Jerry Lee Lewis, etc etc come into play. That’s when you get someone like the Beatles or Stones, who take those artists, combine it with their own take, and spit it all out entirely new & original.
101. jfrater - December 12th, 2007 at 9:35 am
Emily: yep - I am in hiding in case someone tries to lynch me!
102. JMurf - December 12th, 2007 at 9:36 am
Have to agree with Randall on his suggestions, even tho I hate The Smiths, but Pink Floyd should definably be there. You may not hear their influence on musicians but they completely changed the way a song could be shaped, as did The Beatles.
Their live performances were also a first in the way they put on a show and a performance instead of just a performance
103. dangorironhide - December 12th, 2007 at 9:43 am
Randall: Queen mediocre? I think you may be listening to the wrong band!
What everyone should be doing is going right back to the monks back in medieval times. They influences the renaiccance composers, who influenced the baroque composers, who influenced the classical composers, who influenced the romantic composers etc. It goes on.
Same with the original african musicians. They brought their music over to america, which then evolved yada yada yada.
So what this list should be is a list of 15 medieval monks and African cheiftains. None of this ‘The Smiths’ or ‘The Beatles’.
104. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Jamie… *tell* me you didn’t write this list. Please.
Jmurf:
There are a couple groups on here I don’t like, myself–The Grateful Dead, for instance. But I acknowledge their influence. The Smiths, whether you like them or not, *were* a tremendous influence.
I also don’t want to make this a debate about Pink Floyd–I do acknowledge they had an impact. I question the *extent* and *depth* of their influence—but that’s almost nitpicky.
I’m far more bothered by the inclusion of others on this list, and by the omissions I’ve mentioned.
AnotherEngine: THANK YOU! I totally forgot about the Velvet Underground! I’m ashamed. (Seriously, I am).
105. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 9:49 am
Another Wikipedia quote (this makes the most times I’ve even looked at that site in a single month, let alone a day):
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND
“Although never commercially successful whilst together, the Velvet Underground are often cited by critics as one of the most important and influential groups of their era. A famous remark, often attributed to British musician Brian Eno, is that while only a few thousand people bought the first Velvet Underground record upon its release, almost every single one of them was inspired to start a band. Their sound influenced many later musicians in many genres, including experimental, post-punk, new wave, and gothic rock.”
106. Hobolad - December 12th, 2007 at 9:53 am
Nice list! I’d have put the Beatles/Dylan/Elvis as top three- but that’s just me.
107. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 9:53 am
dangorironhide:
Yes, Queen was a pompous mediocrity. I’m quite sure I’ve got the right band, thank you.
108. evan - December 12th, 2007 at 9:54 am
Randall,
says Contributor: StewWriter
109. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 10:28 am
evan:
Huh?
110. bucslim - December 12th, 2007 at 10:33 am
Another engine - uh dude, try just about every fricken guitar god on the planet and under the ground. Stevie Ray Vaughn, Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, Ted Nugent, James Hetfield, Slash, Carlos Santana, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani - it all boils down to Hendrix.
Yeah, Lenny Kravitz too.
111. bucslim - December 12th, 2007 at 10:37 am
John Tesh influenced me to pour gas on myself, tear my ears off with a pair of pliers, gargle with Draino, eat glass, shoot my parents, kick my dog and drive my car of a bridge into a ravine ending in a twisted ball of metal and flame.
Does that count?
112. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 10:39 am
John Tesh just makes me gassy. Sometimes gives me acid reflux.
113. JMurf - December 12th, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Randall:
I hope you mean KISS, what the hell are they doing there????????
Bit off topic but has anyone heard of Rory Gallagher? He went on tour with hendrix and b.b king, but was kicked out as he regularly outshone their talents. I was told himself and hendrix had a guitar-off at a concert in leeds and hendrix was played off the stage. This might also have been due to jimi being off his head :P.
video of him playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjDFBNYBBvA
114. Randall - December 12th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Jmurf:
You lost me. Yes, I was also against Kiss being on this list… I thought I made that clear. (?)
115. fivestring63 - December 12th, 2007 at 1:31 pm
I hate to disagree with you on my first post…but,
I agree with Beatles, Elvis, Grateful Dead, Zeppelin, and possibly Bill Haley.
Some additions I would add are Bach or Beethoven, Louis Armstrong, Bill Monroe, Earl Scruggs, The Who, Hank Williams SR.
116. Yogi Barrister - December 12th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
This is the most demented list I’ve ever seen here. You’ve got Kiss instead of Frank Sinatra, and you don’t have the Kinks, that’s not kinky, that’s perverse.
Actually, I re-read the list and out of the fifteen, I would only seriously argue Kiss and Queen.
117. ImplosiveFire - December 12th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
No Miles Davis? No Hendrix?? Blasphemy!
118. Kelsi - December 12th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
Okay, no way in hell I’m reading all of these comments (sorry.) but I think Buddy Holly should have made it on here! I think it could have been a pretty good Top 20 too, it’s so hard to pick, but I think this is a good list. =)
119. ….. - December 12th, 2007 at 4:01 pm
Umm….why is Queen so low on this list?
They started out as hard rock and stuff, but seriously, they were so different!
They wrote in all genres. Metal, pop, dixie-land, rock, hard rock, classic rock, skiffles, rock-opera, jazz, everything!
they got people listening to Rock-Opera!
(Um, yeah. Bohemian Rhapsody, that one rock-opera song that is consistently voted best song of all time)
And their performances! C’mon now, they’re famous for their live concerts! They had almost 700 of them!
Ergh. This is why I don’t like your music lists.
120. ddazednconfused - December 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
I listen to all genres of music; rock, rap, classical, jazz, blues. Here’s my list of then 15 Most Influential Artists.
1. Elvis Presley
2. The Beatles
3. Johann Sebastian Bach
4. Bob Dylan
5. Run-DMC
6. Led Zeppelin
7. B.B. King
8. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
9. Miles Davis
10. Robert Johnson
11. Jimi Hendrix
12. The Clash
13. Chuck Berry
14. Eric B. & Rakim
15. N.W.A.
121. dazednconfused - December 12th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
^ That was me by the way. It wouldn’t let me log in or use my name, so I added an extra ‘d’ to ‘dazed’.
122. dick shoes - December 12th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
the beatles inspired boy bands. i dont think that deserves number 1.
123. James - December 12th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
Come on, Velvet Underground should be in the top three…I can’t believe they’re not on here. Pixies should probably be here too.
124. tony - December 12th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
new york dolls
blink 182
125. addmyster - December 12th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
no doors? /cry
126. AndyB123 - December 12th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
People that should make the list:
The Stooges. Invented Punk Rock in the 60’s.
Bing Crosby. No kidding. He should be among the first 3, if anything.
Buddy Holly. Omitting him and keeping Kiss is just not kosher. At all. Because Kiss means nothing.
David Bowie. He invented 70’s rock music, basically.
Janis Joplin. A tremendous influence on female rock n rollers.
Black Sabbath. Good call. Every hard rock band knows the Ozzy-era sabbath albums inside and out. Huge Influence. More so than Led Zep, for sure.
Elvis should be first. He just cannot be denied that spot, because without him, no Rock n Roll.
Bob Marley. The one Reggae artist everyone knows. Say Desmond Dekker, and you get a blank stare.
Deep Purple. It’s a toss up between Sabbath and Purple. DP’s In Rock WAS the first real hard rock album, though.
And I just have to mention Al Jolson - not a guy you’ll hear everyday on the radio, but his impact was so great that he deserves a place on the list.
The Smiths ? Wasn’t that whining rock for yuppies ? Grateful Dead, a huge influence ? I certainly hope not. People who love them, REALLY love them - as for the rest of us…Nah. I never got the whole Nirvana thing. Perhaps they were some kind of trailblazers. Not to the extent that they should be on the list, in my opinion.
127. JOE BLACKK - December 12th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
I can’t NOT BELIEVE u didn’t include 2pac….easily one of the most influential artist of all time…he’s right up there wit Cobain,…anyone who has really listened to his music would agree…i like Jim Morrison as well.
128. Martin L - December 12th, 2007 at 8:05 pm
I think I like DDazedandconfused’s list at #120 better than yours, Stew. And I will agree that KISS and the Sex Pistols have no place on a list of influential musicians. Influential showpeople, maybe, but that’s a whole different category.
Really I don’t think you can easily hold a list like this down to twenty. I like the addition of Bowie, Roxie Music, and the Stooges, except that it’s hard to pick out their heirs in the modern scene. (Has there ever been, and will there ever be, anyone like Bowie?) I think you do need to go back to Mozart, Bach and Beethoven — and while you’re at it, Berlioz, who, as well as being a thunderous composer, also devised the symphony orchestra as we now know it. How’s that for influential? Then there’s John Dowland, and even earlier there’s Palestrina.
Oh, and Dick Shoes, stay out of the comments until you’ve grown a brain. The Beatles were not a “boy band.” They took rock music and recording technology, and the very CONCEPT of what a band could be, lightyears further than anyone on the list. And in some ways, THEY are the originators of heavy metal and hard rock. Everyone from the Stones to Zep to Bowie to Floyd to the Beach Boys and dozens more freely admitted they ripped off the Beatles … who freely admitted their heroes were Chuck Berry, Elvis and Little Richard.
129. Mario - December 12th, 2007 at 8:41 pm
ok ok ok…..this list sucks……..some of them….zep…floyd…beatles……they stay…..others gots to go…ok the stones stay too…..but they dont have rush………um…did we forget lynyrd skynyrd……..and no one seems to add a bit of hendrix…k..zep(1) floyd(2) beatles(3) rush(4) and then who ever you want…dont matter from there….
130. Ryan - December 12th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Where is:
Television…
the clash….
The who….
bowie….
come on those are a given.
131. Tjgrs - December 12th, 2007 at 10:08 pm
my list….
1. Elvis
2. The Beatles
3. Frank Sinatra
4. Johnny Cash
5. The Clash
6. The Sex Pistols
7. Eric Clapton
8. Bob Dylan
9. Bob Marley
10. Robert Johnson
11. Led Zeplin
12. Run DMC
13. Jimi Hendrix
14. Chuck Berry
15. Nirvana
132. 20Fan20 - December 12th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
This was a great list!!!!
But of course there might have been a slight oversight. I think you forgot to put Robert Johnson on the list.
My goodness how many bands have not covered this guy? Heck, we even get the whole idea of selling your soul for rock and roll from him. How many people have gone searching for the crossroads and the devil?
Zep, Stones, Clapton, Aerosmith, Zevon, Dylan, Dickey Betts have all been signifcantly influenced by this guy. You could even make a list called “top 20 musicians influenced by Robert Johnson!”
And of course his recordings are excellent!
133. mooster - December 12th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Wow. Poor, poor Mozart…
134. jfrater - December 13th, 2007 at 12:31 am
I hadn’t commented here because I don’t have a lot of knowledge of rock music/pop music, but this is a list of influential modern musicians - it was not meant to include classical composers. So - as so many people have bemoaned their absence - I will write a list of the top 15 most influential composers sometime soon!
135. Dawn Bearer - December 13th, 2007 at 3:19 am
How about Chuck Berry ?
136. NZSpringy - December 13th, 2007 at 3:38 am
I went to the menu on the Bill Haley one and watched Swing Dancing to Bill Haley and the Comets (1956) was great to see the dancing. Wow bring it back! Trouble is it was before my time then and now I’m too old lol.
137. Shadowmire - December 13th, 2007 at 6:22 am
This list is clearly based on a blinded view of what is “influential” when all most of the artists did is sell a lot of albums with mediocre music (K.I.S.S is quite possible one of the most terrible rock artists in the history of music, and they do not deserve a spot on any “positive” list). Now, I agree that Black Sabbath, Nirvana and Elvis Presley extremely influential, but there are other artists that should be there, but aren’t because the entire list is limited to only the most famous artists. Venom, Korn and Metallica should be on the list, and I expected the latter two even if Venom didn’t have a chance, but I wasn’t even granted the chance to see Metallica on the list.
And to avoid sounding like a closed-minded metalhead, I also think artists such as Tupac, Frank Sinatra and Madonna (I hate all three, but my opinion fails to make them less influential on the music industry) should be up there.
So, if you ever decide to make a list of the most influential artists of all time again, I would suggest renaming this one “My own opinion that I try to pass off as a relevant list”, and going from there.
138. bucslim - December 13th, 2007 at 7:00 am
How about a list of the top ten most influential musicians who don’t like Led Zeppelin and voted for the worst presidents favorite Beatles songs?
(and you have to look at the list cross-eyed until it becomes one image)
139. jfrater - December 13th, 2007 at 7:17 am
bucslim: if you put that together I will strongly consider posting it
140. Randall - December 13th, 2007 at 7:23 am
Upon further reflection (see my postings up above at #92, 94, and 105) I honestly think this is one of the worst lists I’ve ever seen on this site. Badly conceived and clearly written by someone without a *clue* about the history of modern music.
141. Randall - December 13th, 2007 at 7:24 am
oh, and in my humble opinion, the list should be yanked.
142. alext - December 13th, 2007 at 9:18 am
i cannot believe jimi hendrix is not on the list he perfected the guitar. i go to this site often and usually enjoy the lists but i’n outraged that hendrix was left off. he is one of the best performers of all time and influenced everyone, even people who don’t play music. he is a person hero of mine and should be on this list.
143. Bill Mazzoli - December 13th, 2007 at 11:33 am
There’s a pitiful shortage of black artists on this list. Considering they invented rock and roll, that’s an egregious error. How about Ray Charles? Little Richard? Ike Turner? Rufus Thomas? Get Bill Haley out of there: nobody ever sounded like him or wanted to. As for artists who retailored black music for white audiences, forget the Supremes - Sam Cooke blazed that trail, and Nat King Cole before him. Rock divas? Don’t forget the Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin. Queen is just warmed over Led Zeppelin, get rid of them. Jimi Hendrix is the guitar god, no player doesn’t have him as an influence. The Grateful Dead couldn’t keep up with the Allman Brothers on their best day. Forget the Stooges and all the other punks and grunge acts - the Velvet Underground has all that covered. Kurt Cobain is Lou Reed with a tenth of the talent and without the guts to stay alive and take on middle age. Kiss is music for people who don’t like music: give them an award for best makeup and send them home. And where’s the hip hop? Ice T, NWA, Public Enemy - one of them should get a mention. But speaking of that - WHERE’S JAMES FREAKIN’ BROWN? For God’s sake, even Zeppelin bowed to him.
144. Bill Mazzoli - December 13th, 2007 at 12:20 pm
While I’m thinking about it: the Byrds deserve a mention for electrifying folk music and paving the way for Dylan and all his followers. And the Beach Boys are gods to any group that wants to approach the state of the art in vocal harmonies. And every female singer acknowledges a debt to Joni Mitchell - surely there’s room one woman singer-songwriter on this list? And then there’s Buddy Holly, who gave the Beatles and Bob Dylan permission to be singer-songwriters. And the group who reinvented the rock concert as theater - the Doors, without whom David Bowie, Alice Cooper, Marilyn Manson, and all the rest would be working at Wal-Mart. And Talking Heads, who made it okay for nerds to be rock and rollers. Hm. Don’t think we can limit this list to just 15.
145. dick shoes - December 13th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
“QUOTE - Martin L.
Oh, and Dick Shoes, stay out of the comments until you’ve grown a brain. The Beatles were not a “boy band.” They took rock music and recording technology, and the very CONCEPT of what a band could be, lightyears further than anyone on the list. And in some ways, THEY are the originators of heavy metal and hard rock. Everyone from the Stones to Zep to Bowie to Floyd to the Beach Boys and dozens more freely admitted they ripped off the Beatles … who freely admitted their heroes were Chuck Berry, Elvis and Little Richard.”
bro that would be the stones not the beatles.. how old are you. back in the day beatles fans were 8 year old girls and stones fans were the men. The beatles were the first boy band period they are a joke and always will be a joke. The media and VH1 are the ones who made you think they were inspirational or even good. Please explain to me how Love me do, i am the eggman, and i want to hold your hand, can be taken seriously and held with any artistic merit. they are a joke and will always be a joke. I throw a party everytime one of them dies because fuck ups like you hold their dumbasses up on a pedistole and never did research to find out what kind of media whore’s these talentless twinks were.
god bless
146. dick shoes - December 13th, 2007 at 12:57 pm
and martin..
i dont think you are going to find one heavy metal group that will ever say they were inspired by the beatles. That’s like saying Picasso was inspired by shit stains drawn on paper by 3 year olds. The originaters of heavy metal is and always will be BLACK SABBATH. period end of discussion. go filatiat paul’s rockstare son jessey. oh wait he himself did the same thing his dad did. sing to 6 year olds
147. Randall - December 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
dick shoes:
Are you for real, or is this some kind of a bizarre joke?
Yes, you are a total moron. That’s clear.
How old are YOU, “bro?”
It’s obvious you’re some teenage/twenty-something punk who hasn’t got a clue. And yet you pretend to speak with authority about historical events that occurred WELL before you were probably born.
Your statement that the Beatle’s fans were “8 year old girls” is laughable. The Beatles fans ran the gamut in age, doofus. *BOB DYLAN* was a fan of the Beatles from the moment he first heard them.
But oh yes, The Beatles’ music has only survived these last 45 years because VH1 has forced them on us.
Oh—kay.
“Retarded” is the word that comes to mind as I read this post of yours.
148. Martin L - December 13th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
THANK you, Randall. Thank you.
Dick Shoes: I’d liketo point out that you, not I, are a sad dupe of MTV and VH-1. I grew up with the Beatles, and know that their fans cut through practically every demographic, as Randall says. You a) confuse the Stones with the Beatles in terms of greatness, and b) can’t even spell pedestal, or fellatiate. As far as Beatles prefiguring heavy metal, listen to “Helter Skelter” or “I Want You/She’s So Heavy.” And when Plant, Page and Jones were first getting their little band together, they played for the Beatles and ASKED THEIR OPINION. At which time John said opined it would go over like a lead balloon — from which response the band took their name.
How pathetic that you throw a party every time a Beatle dies. It’s YOUR opinion of Black Sabbath that’s been informed solely by cable TV. Deep Purple was in there ahead of them, as were MC-5 in the 60s, a time period concerning which we need to hear no further pearls of your wisdom.
149. Martin L - December 13th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
Okay, now that I’m calmer: one more candidate for the list. Nobody’s mentioned Les Paul, inventor of multitrack recording and the solidbody electric guitar, besides being an excellent guitarist in his own right for over fifty years. Of course it’s his inventions more than his playing that have enriched modern music, so maybe he belongs on an inventors list … there is one around here someplace, isn’t there?
150. dick shoes - December 13th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
why the beatles were bad
WHEN I was growing up one thing was patently obvious: young people were either this or that. Not a bit of this and some of that. It was black and white with no Grey.
It was whether you were a fan of ‘The Beatles’ or a fan of ‘The Rolling Stones’. It was that simple.
The end of the 1950s ‘mods’ and ‘rockers’ era, had a shift, such that if you were a ‘rocker’, you generally liked ‘The Rolling Stones’, and if you were a ‘mod’ you liked ‘The Beatles’. Prepubescent, good, and white girls were usually in with ‘The Beatles’, gathering around ‘Dansette’ record players and ‘Radiograms’ to listen to the new ‘Pop’ music on ’45s’, while boys liked ‘The Rolling Stones’.
Sure, that is an over-simplification, for example, boys seemed to either like football or music, and the division between ‘The Beatles’ and ‘The Rolling Stones’ was not merely about gender, but about attitude, clothes and youth identity and culture.
As a family, we were ‘cool’ (like ‘The Fonz’) — we were more ‘The Rolling Stones’ than ‘The Beatles’. And I am comfortable with that, in fact I am glad for that.
To this day I think ‘The Beatles’ are an over-rated pop group. They were in existence from what, 63 to 70 — 7 or 8 years? And they went from ‘She Loves You Yeah Yeah Yeah’ to ‘Revolution No.9′. It was a mess.
I HATE ‘Oblidioblidah’ almost as much as I HATE ‘Yellow Submarine’.
Oh! How could anyone rate this group? They were awful, they had zero ’street cred’ and they were merely the first to be exploited. If there is one thing that can be said about ‘The Beatles’ is that they were manufactured through-and-through. Because of ‘The Beatles’ we have the record business, the teen-pop marketing machine, the fashion tie-in, the posed magazine photograph, and the cheeky interview.
The crowds of screaming teenage girls invented by Sinatra’s people and groomed by the Presley camp, were simply moved on to the next thing — and this tradition continues yet.
On the other hand, ‘The Rolling Stones’ have continued — they still tour, they still sell lots of recordings, and they stuck to what was honest and truthful — themselves and their music.
‘The Beatles’ tried to be ‘cool’ and failed. They refused to accept their gongs from the Queen (what happened to those ideals, SIR Paul McCartney??). McCartney formed ‘Wings’ with his sad-looking wife, and launched with the worst and most childish gibberish ever imposed on the public. Lennon was even less talented, and his child-like endeavours were even less-well received than Mccartney’s. Ringo Starr did children’s TV voice overs and Harrison had a decent enough career away from the others.
* From their solo careers, it is patently obvious that ‘The Beatles’ were a creation. Whatever talent they may have had musically was early, manipulated and short-lived.
Probably the most amazing time in the history of music is the mid 1970s — when people could record on cassette tape from cheap radios and music centres, when synthesisers appeared, when types of music merged, when Progressive Rock was invented along with Punk, when the music business felt threatened by illegal taping, bootlegs, and the independents.
‘The Rolling Stones’ went onto even greater success, they exploited the laser shows, the big stadium gigs, the new instruments and recording techniques. The solo careers fitted the expectations and qualified ‘The Rolling Stones’ as a band of talent. Compare that with the same period for the solo careers of each ‘Beatle’! ‘C Moon’? ‘Mary Had A Little Lamb’? ‘Hi Hi Hi’???
Like so many manufactured pop bands, ‘The Beatles’ were short-lived and essentially cheap-throw-aways. They were cartoons, they were hairstyles, their songs should have been thrown away too; they are pop and therefore worthless.
George Martin was very talented musically and he managed to take whatever was chanced upon and make something of it. He has milked that cash cow long and hard ever since — and is a crashing bore as a result. It is a great pity he cannot take the credit he is due. On the other hand I wish he would just leave it all alone to fade away as it really should.
I am not advocating ‘The Rolling Stones’, but I am trying to correct the rewriting of history: people seem to have forgotten the ‘Stones vs Beatles’ thing. People seem to have forgotten that ‘The Beatles’ were not cool.
Sorry world, but ‘The Beatles’ were made out to be more popular than they really were. They milked the media machine dry. They had no competition (unlike the world today). Their fanbase was preteen girls.
We were cool; we didn’t like ‘The Beatles’ in our neighbourhood. Boys went on to like Led Zeppelin, Cream and Jimi Hendrix — album bands, and girls filled the vacuum left by ‘The Beatles’ with ‘The Bay City Rollers’ a couple of years later.
Pop acts like ‘Sweet’, Alvin Stardust, David Essex, Gilbert O’Sullivan, Leo Sayer, ‘Bony-M’, Gary Glitter, The Osmonds, The Jackson Five, David Cassidy and ‘Abba’ took over the pop scene.
Girls and the preteens were the ones buying pop — they listened to (and recorded) the BBC pop chart every week. Teen Boys refused to have anything to do with pop music — they NEVER watched ‘Top of The Pops’ — they watched ‘The Old Grey Whistle Test’ and ‘The Tube’.
Now you know why ‘The Beatles’ were bad — they had little talent individually and musically, they were pretentious and fake and created all that is pretentious and fake in the pop world. Time to step out, stop believing the bullshit and hype, stop following the revisionism, let the truth be told! ‘The Beatles’ were bad!
151. dick shoes - December 13th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
the truth hurts martin and randall.. it hurts.
152. Randall - December 13th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
“dick”:
Clearly this is taken from SOME article or essay. CITE what you quote, kid—otherwise it’s called plagiarism.
Now… this bit of vitriol was obviously written by some Brit of the day (which you just as obviously, from your previous syntax, are NOT—I have no doubt you’re some pimply American 17 year old, or thereabouts) who has an axe to grind; someone, clearly, has issues they haven’t resolved since they were a teenager themselves in the NINETEEN-Freakin’-SIXTIES.
And just as obviously, “dick”, you’ve yanked out this solitary acidic article in some hopeless attempt to make your case—and worse, it’s probably the ONE article in the entire world that you’re basing your view on. And yet you accuse others here of being “duped.” Real smart, kid.
Because we could pull out DOZENS of essays and articles with an ENTIRELY opposing view—written ALSO by people WHO WERE THERE.
This is moronic; A) there’s nothing wrong with “pop” music—-people who make a show of despising music simply because it’s pop are poseurs, pure and simple—and B) this writer’s idea that the Beatles were made out to be more popular than they were is so laughable it can’t even be credited. The author of this piece is obviously off his nut, and never having grown up out of his “rocker” hatred of the Beatlesm, he has crustily grown to a point where he can’t even see straight anymore.
He obviously SO DESPERATELY wants us to believe his twisted version of reality that he keeps making over-the-top statements averring that “Teen Boys refused to have anything to do with pop music” and so on—as if he and HE ALONE knows what EVERYONE else in Britain was doing and WHY they were doing it.
“dick,” you’ve fallen for the writings of someone with an essentially authoritarian “only I can be right” mindset, like the kind of softbrains who fall for conspiracy theories.
Since we could cite for you a virtually *endless* series of statements and opinions that would totally contradict this clown’s words, your postings–and his thoughts–are worthless.
45 years later, the music of the Beatles survives and is still hugely popular. That alone is proof enough that–regardless of whether they were “the greatest” or not–they certainly weren’t “pretentious and fake,” nor were they “bad.”
Grow up and get some critical thinking skills, “dick.” Getting all your information from a single, nutbrain source is no way to advance yourself in life.
153. bucslim - December 13th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Martin L - good points, but I believe it was Keith Moon who coined the led zeppelin comment.
154. bucslim - December 13th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Dick,
Congrats, I think you’ll probably win some prize for being the stupidist person to comment on this site. Your farcical comments make absolutely no sense whatsoever. He doesn’t have to quote, Randall, he’s making it up as he goes.
If you wanna say you don’t like the Beatles, fine. Calling them talentless is intergalactically fucking insane.
Either it’s time to up the meds or you need some serious Jungian throwdown pal.
155. JMurf - December 13th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
I’m gonna say it………… Elvis Presley, completely overrated, pretty much stole everything from Chuck Berry and other black rock’n'roll musicians at the time who weren’t getting there name cos of their colour
156. Martin L - December 13th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Bucslim: I think you’re probably right there — though I recall somebody attributing it to Lennon once, later I also heard it was Keith. Oh well.
And now, I think, my last word about Mr. Shoes. Randall’s right: compare the comparative subliteracy of his earlier posts with that suddenly at least half-coherent and correctly spelled “essay,” probably from some fifth-rate lad-mag somewhere, and it’s obvious this kid̵