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10 Stories Behind Crazy Sport Traditions

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Sports are fun to play but they are also just as fun to watch thanks to a rich history of crazy fans and sports-specific or even team-specific traditions that have spanned across the decades. So while we fans aren’t scoring the game-winning goal, we still get heavily involved in the sport and in our teams through a number of ways. Below are just ten of the many traditions that have defined the “sport” of watching sports. By no means is this a comprehensive list – it was hard enough just narrowing down the list to ten even when I limited myself to only professional sports – so feel free to include any traditions, rituals and/or superstitions you want to share in the comments!

The abbreviations in the list are as follows: NHL (National Hockey League), NFL (National Football League – American football), MLB (Major League Baseball), NBA (National Basketball Association), FIFA (International Federation of Association Football)

10

C of Red

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The best way to show support for your favorite team is to proudly wear the team colors. Greater solidarity comes from tens of thousands of your fellow sports fanatics all wearing the same color. Its beginnings may have come from the NHL’s Calgary Flames during the 1986 Stanley Cup Finals. The Edmonton Oilers’s fans were in the midst of “Hat Trick Fever” as they tried to win their third consecutive championship. In response to Hat Trick Fever, Calgary promoted “C of Red” to encourage their fans to come dressed in entirely red. During next year’s first round playoffs, Calgary’s opponent responded with the “Winnipeg White Out”. Now it is extremely popular in US Universities like Penn State’s Code Blue and Virginia Tech’s Orange/Maroon Effect.

9

South Africa’s Vuvuzela

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This is a fairly recent fixture in the FIFA scene even though the vuvuzela has been popular in South African games since the 1990s. The vuvuzela is a simply blow horn originally made of tin but mass-produced in plastic for games. Blowing through the mouth as you would a trumpet, the vuvuzela emits a loud monotone note similar to elephant trumpets. It’s stirred up some controversy because there are many who are trying to have them banned from the upcoming 2010 World Cup. The complains range from “too loud” to “not fit for a sports arena.” The vuvuzela supporters say that it doesn’t detract from the game anymore than anything else that fans have with them and that it is a strong part of the South African culture.


8

The Hat Trick

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This popular hockey tradition may have gotten its inspiration from the sport of cricket. In cricket, a hat trick happens when a bowler dismisses three batsmen with consecutive deliveries. The custom crossed over to hockey with Ontario’s Biltmore Mad Hatters. When one of the players scored three goals in a game, the team owner Mr. Biltmore would present him with a new fedora. Many stories describe Mr. Biltmore throwing his top hat onto the ice to salute the player and soon enough, the fans also tossed their own hats onto the ice. After they are collected, the hats are either donated, thrown away or saved for a gigantic transparent case that showcases the franchise’s hat trick history.

7

Food Races

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During intermissions, many fans will race to the concession stand to grab some more food before the game resumes. In certain stadiums, the food does the running! The most famous is the Klement’s Sausage Race at Miller Park (home of the MLB’s Milwaukee Brewers). The tradition began in the early 90s as a computer animation race on the scoreboard but they made their first live appearance in 1994. At the bottom of the sixth inning of every Milwaukee Brewers home game, employees of Miller Park and a select few highly honored guest wieners don the seven foot three inch foam costumes and race from third base down to home plate and back up to first base. To date there are five sausages: Brett Wurst the bratwurst, Stosh the Polish sausage, Guido the Italian sausage, Frankie Furter the hot dog and Cinco the Chorizo. Bratwurst is currently the race leader with eighteen wins. The race gained fame outside of baseball in July 2003 when then-Pittsburgh Pirate Randall Simon used a bat to hit Guido (worn by employee Mandy Block) on the sausage’s head. Given where he hit Guido, the bat never came near Mandy Block’s head but since the costume is so top-heavy, Guido easy fell down and took Hot Dog down as well. Simon was arrested, given a fine and suspended by the MLB for three games. Despite reprimands by the authorities, some found the situation comical. Mandy Block asked for Simon’s autograph on the infamous bat and t-shirt companies made a tidy profit with shirts saying “Don’t whack our weiner!”


6

The Terrible Towel

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The Terrible Towel is as much a symbol of the NFL’s Pittsburgh Steelers as their three-star logo. Its creation comes from the mid-1970s after the Steelers won their first ever Super Bowl in 1974 and were strong contenders at the 1975 playoffs after winning twelve of fourteen games during the regular season. Around that time, general manager Ted Atkins, sales manager Larry Gerrett and broadcaster Myron Cope brainstormed ideas to market of the team’s success. The first idea was a mask of head coach Chuck Noll but was dismissed due to price issues. The next idea was the more cost-effective “Terrible Towel” because it was cheap, durable and easy to carry around. They had less than two weeks to promote the Terrible Towel so Myron Cope went on TV and radio telling people to bring, buy or dye a dish towel yellow, gold or black. By the next game, somewhere between 30,000-50,000 fans were spinning towels over their heads and the numbers have only grown since then. The following year, the Steeler’s franchise printed the official Terrible Towel image onto bright yellow towels and the tradition became official. All proceeds from Terrible Towel sales go to the Allegheny Valley School, which is “a residential and educational facility for children and adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities.” To date, the Terrible Towel has made over $2.5 million for the Allegheny Valley School.

5

Bleacher Roll Call

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At the old Yankee baseball Stadium, the fans in section 39 had a history of bad behavior. They heckled visiting teams and high school marching band students, they ignored the warnings of stadium ushers, and they even badgered fellow Yankee fans who weren’t part of their tight-knit group known as the Bleacher Creatures. As a result of the bad attitudes, section 39 lacked access to the rest of the stadium and beer sales were banned in just that area. However, negotiations between the Yankee organization and the Bleacher Creatures ensured that the group would get to sit together in section 203 of the new Yankee Stadium in exchange for a some changes to a few of their more belligerent Bleacher Creature traditions. Now seen more as ‘extremely loyal fans’ rather than a group of nasty hecklers, Yankee home games aren’t really complete until they deliver their Bleacher Roll Call. At the top of the first inning, “Bald Vinny” Milano shouts the name of a Yankee player and the entire section will chant that particular baseball player’s name until he recognizes the Bleacher Creatures with a wave or salute. They will go down lineup until every Yankee player is called.


4

The Playoff Beard

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This is a tradition that started with the NHL’s New York Islanders. From 1980 to 1983, the team won the championship and lifted Lord Stanley’s cup high above their whiskered faces. Since then, many teams and their fans have put away the razorblade for the duration of their playoff run. In addition to discussing team strategies and playoff series, fans also get into debates over which players can grow the best, worst or the most nonexistent playoff beard. Many teams will also sponsor Beard-A-Thons in which players and fans grow a playoff beard to fundraise money for various charities. The Playoff Beard tradition is strongest within hockey but it has found its way into other sports through players like the NFL’s Jake Plummer and tennis pro Björn Borg.

3

The Unofficial Mascots

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Fans love to show their support by wearing their team colors. Some may take it to the next level with brightly-colored facepaint or tattoos (whether temporary or not) but there are a select few superfans who are dressed so bizarrely that everyone takes notice. The NFL’s Washington Redskins have the Hogettes. When the group was formed, no one had even thought it would become an unofficial football mascot. As founder Michael Torbert describes it, he attended a Halloween Party at his grandmother’s retirement home dressed in her tea party finest and he was so popular that he and his friends thought they could take this act to local hospitals to cheer up sick children. As lifelong Redskins fans, they decided to go attend a game in their drag wear including pig snout masks referencing the offensive linesmen who were nicknamed the “Hogs.” The Hogettes have become a fixture within the Redskins community and through their fame, they have found greater exposure for their many charities. To date, the Hogettes have raised over $100 million for various charities like the Ronald McDonald House and the March of Dimes.


2

#1 Heckler

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Heckling is one of the least favorable traditions in pro sports fandom but jeers and taunts are as common at games as the cheers and applause. No one has a heckling career as quite as prestigious as that of Robin Ficker (above), an ardent fan of the former Washington Bullets (now known as the NBA’s Washington Wizards). For twelve years, Robin Ficker held season tickets to Washington Bullets games that were directly behind the visiting team’s bench. He would taunt players through his megaphone. He made fun of coaches’ outfits. When the Chicago Bulls came to play, Ficker would read the sex passages of Bull’s Coach Phil Jackson’s 1975 autobiography “Maverick.” He’s had some supporters over the years, including basketball player Charles Barkley who had flown him to Phoenix when his team was in the finals against the Chicago Bulls. In 1997, the former Bullets moved to the MCI Center and Ficker decided not to renew his season tickets because the new seats were too far from the visitor’s bench. He faded from the sports world for focus on his political career but has recently taken to attending and heckling at wrestling matches at the University of Maryland.

1

Detroit’s Lucky Octopus

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A practice that remains strong for the Detroit Redwings of the NHL that (hopefully) won’t catch on with the other teams is the tossing of octopuses onto the rink. The origins of this tentacled tradition began in 1952 when fewer NHL teams meant that the road to the Stanley Cup only took eight playoff wins. To mark this occasion, brothers Pete and Jerry Cusimano threw the eight-legged creature onto the ice to represent the Redwing’s eight games against the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Montreal Canadiens. Since then, hundreds of octopuses have rained down onto the Redwing rink, including one tossed by Bob Dubisky and Larry Shotwell that weighed 50 lbs (22.68 kg). With every octopus purchased for the purpose of tossing, the Superior Fish Market gives out an “Octoquette” which is a pamphlet of recommended guidelines for octopus tossing, including boiling the octopus for half an hour (raw octopus tends to stick to the ice and leave a slimy residue when removed), launching them only after a Redwing goal as any other time may result in a Delay of Game penalty, and toss the octopus in a direction away from any players, officials and personnel.



  • SwarK

    interesting..dont really know any of these though.

  • Fazrin!!!!!!!

    Maybe i should say ”this list is great!!!!!!!” but no…sorry,i’m not into sportbtw,picture for item no 3 is awesome

  • RadSquirrel

    1/10 from outside of North America. . . would have been nice to expand the horizons a bit, considering the entire world play sport and few of us follow the America Leagues.

  • deezer

    Interesting list. I didn’t know any of these. The octopus tossing one is hilarious! Thanks alot. Lists like these keep LV interesting.

  • VP

    Too American

  • 7raul7

    I have absolutely no idea how sports like baseball or ice hockey are played. Would’ve been interesting if more ‘UnAmerican’ sports would’ve been added.

    Mediocre list at best.

    • Mats Sundin

      always nice to see someone who's proudly ignorant.

  • teacherman

    OMG here come the complaints already! I’m not even gonna address them as i am sure others will.

    Cant believe the Notre Dame football helmet painting was left out:

    http://www.und.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/footbl-wknds/nd-m-footbl-wknds-helmet.html

  • teacherman

    @7rauk7 – You have no idea how baseball or ice hockey are played?? Where do you live that you have never figured either one of these out?

    But besides that, how does not knowing the rules detract from the list?

  • teacherman

    How does not following/understanding a sport make this a poor list? I am confused by the logic?

  • teacherman

    Pic for #3 is wrong. That is for U of Texas. Should be:
    http://www.hogettes.org/images/HogettesFull.jpg

  • bluesman87

    @teacherman [8]:What ? How many americans do you think understand cricket and football(soccer- you know when you can only use your FEET)? Obviously a fan of these sports will enjoy the list better than someone who isnt a fan – he said it would be “more interesting” if he understood the sports . Whats wrong with that ? as far as the vuvuzela is concerned i think there is probly much more interesting traditions around the world when it comes to football , also the story behind the vuvuzela is missing ( it was a tool for worrship ) . I think it wouldve been better off to replace no.9 with another american sports traditions and then call the list “stories behind american sports traditions) .Well written but think it couldve been done differently .

    Also im south african so i kindve feel an obliged national pride(just a little bit) to the vuvuzela, but that thing can get fucking irratating as well as damage your ears and hearing .I prefer football games with plain old hooliganism and violence the vuvuzela gets on my nerves even before halftime .

  • fiut(gof)

    t-up

  • Anti Emo

    AMERICACENTRIC!

  • Julius
  • bluesman87

    @Julius [14]:awee amakosi for life :-)thats only one young guy you should see how the old dudes do it(lots of them too) they are boss .

  • @RadSquirrel [3]:
    –all right…people say there are too many american examples on this list. that seems correct to me, but typically the comment section will be replete with examples that were missed. @7raul7 [6] said the inclusion of other sports would have been great. i agree with this sentiment — give us some examples. i am in the u.s., and even i wish there had been more examples of non u.s. sports…..because i do not know any examples from rugby, cricket, jai lai, etc. i played soccer in college but don’t really know any examples of crazy sports traditions — that is partially what the comment section is for.

  • Zack

    I love how people complain that the lists are too American. Maybe that’s because they were submitted by Americans!

    If non Americans want non American lists, then get off your ass and submit your own lists instead of just whining about it! It’s really that simple!

  • JUNQUEMAN2

    Those DAMN HORNS are going to ruin watching the WORLD CUP.

  • BAWWWWWWWWW

    Hmmm, the list title says “10 Stories Behind Crazy Sport Traditions” and that seems to be what the list is composed of… regardless of where these sports are popular.

    If anything, it’s ‘too Canadian’ as 4/10 items are hockey-centric. But I’ll just avoid a bitchy, whiney rant about how MY interests and tastes in sports aren’t reflected on this list that I didn’t make. :)

    Cool info.

  • @Zack [17] and @many others [all the time]:
    –if you absolutely must complain that this list is whatevercentric, which is quickly turning into a stale running joke in this forum, please consider this
    prevalence:
    soccer——————–1
    basketball—————-1
    major league baseball—–2
    american football———2
    hockey——————–4

    this list is actually just as canada-centric as it is america-centric

    of course, ideally, it would be nice if people would just stop assuming that no one reading the list has noticed most of the examples have one particular place of origin

  • Julius

    @bluesman87 [11]: in terms of atmosphere the Soweto derby is one of the most impressive I’ve ever been to the sound of thousands of vuvuzelas drowning out every other noise, 60k dancing and singing in ridiculous costumes, I think the vuvuzela is awesome :-)

    Another crazy tradition is that when AS Roma win the Italian championship every streetcorner gets littered with thousands of red and yellow chillis ( fortunately Roma don’t win the
    scudetto too often :-)
    Not a crazy but a beautiful tradition is the singing of “You’ll never walk alone” at the start and end of every Liverpool match. One of the best hymns I know…

  • missmozell

    This isn’t a pro sports tradition, but it’s interesting. At Texas A&M, all members of the Aggie Corp (one article I read said the entire student body) attending football games must remain standing through the game to symbolize ‘the 12th man’. This tradition began at a Dallas game in early January of 1922. The Aggies suffered so many injuries that the coach was afraid he’d run out of substitutes. He spotted an ex football player who’d gone on to play basketball and called on him to rally to the cause. The student donned a fallen comerade’s uniform and waited to be called in. The Aggies won the game and he wasn’t called in, but he was the last man left standing on the sideline. The tradition is to show that every Aggie is ready to jump in if needed.

  • @BAWWWWWWWWW [19]:
    —haha!! this guy beat me to it — sorry about the repeative post, but this comment wasnt there when i started typing mine
    i promise i promise

  • Clark

    @7raul7 [6]: blah, blah, blah, blah, blah…Who cares if you don’t follow a particular sport? This list is about traditions, so liking, or even knowing, the sport is irrelevant. Bunch of freaking babies around here.

  • Clark

    On other thing, people coming to Listverse and complaining about lists being too American is like someone going to a Chinese restaurant and complaining about the food being too Chinese. Although people from around the world visit here, the majority of the site’s patrons are North American. So if you don’t like a list, get to work on your own. This was a fine list today.

  • teacherman

    I don’t know squat about cricket, but if there was a list published entitled “10 craziest Cricket Traditions” I would read it with enthusiasm like I do all other lists. I would appreciate the tidbits (factoids) that I learned and I would leave a positive comment acknowledging the effort put into the list.

  • Chris

    I enjoyed this list but for the first time I will have to agree with the “too American” comments. Rugby, for example, has possibly some of the strangest traditions of any sport. Read “behind the ruck” by Gordon Bray. I was surprised rugby wasn’t on there. Still an interesting read though. I love the octopus tossing, that’s gold.

  • bluesman87

    @Julius [21]: Im a bit biased i have to admit i just had a crowd of about 300 municipal workers marching around my office block blowing vuvuzelas in protest for 3 weeks , it gets old fast especially when you trying to work(or pretending to work while on LV). Soweto derby is quiet a sight though its the atmosphere .I think the WC finals are there , not sure though.

  • @Clark [25]: “Although people from around the world visit here, the majority of the site’s patrons are North American.”

    –i feel like i’ve read this statement before….like, in the last week — for some reason, it doesnt seem right to me.
    –jafe, cyn, oouchan, other admins/mods, is there a way to justify or refute this claim through statistical analysis of ipo addresses or something?
    –the demographics of l.v. subscribers would make for an interesting read

  • bluesman87

    @oliveralbq [29]: Go to the about page – Audience
    64.5% North American
    22.9% European
    62% under 20 years old 34% 20 – 39 year old

    Dont know how old this info is .

  • oouchan

    Cool list, gabi319! I liked the octopus throwing one. Too funny! Some of these I’ve never heard of before so it was an interesting read.

    @7raul7 [6]: I might not be an avid fan of sports (no matter where or what they are) but I have educated myself on those sports played outside of the USA. I find that I have started to enjoy rugby quite a lot. Just a thought.

  • oouchan

    @oliveralbq [29]: bluesman87 beat me to it, but those numbers were taken as a survey a little over a year ago if I’m correct.

  • Christopher 13

    Very medicore list.
    You would swear the person who wrote it has never left North America. Im a South African and a sports fanatic. I know just as much about baseball, basketball and football as I do cricket, rugby, soccer, golf even tennis.
    The list is very canadiancentric for the very reason that im sure nearly every “tradition” that started in ice hockey can actually traced back much further to another sport. I’m sure there are much more interestign traditions ie the roma tradition.

  • gw1pcd

    Far too USA-centred. Sport is played outside the USA too!

  • bluesman87

    @Christopher 13 [34]: “The list is very canadiancentric for the very reason that im sure nearly every “tradition” that started in ice hockey can actually traced back much further to another sport.”

    wait …what ? so like canadians have a tradition of stealing other traditions ?ummm that makes no sense?

  • Himself

    Plain boring. Didn’t even read half of these.

  • Akashtorturedmind

    Great list for a north american reader! For other people this just seems as a stack of incomprehensible facts about american and canadian sport formations and their associated traditions! I think the title is very misleading. By excluding the south african item, the list could be more approriately titled ‘top 9 north american sport teams’ traditions and their origin’ . That way any non american readers would know what the list is really about. Also this would stop all the blabbermouths(myself included) about how americanized this list is. I sincery appreciate your attempt at writing your own list but personaly i find it quite weak.

    stuffs that could have been included:
    1) what is the origin of the team captain?!
    2) how did scoring give rise to the celebration that we see today(all the fancy things)
    3) team anthems
    4) the new zeeland haka
    5) the exchange of shirts between soccer players.
    6) body paintings (more general)
    7) the traditional ‘champagne bath’ after a title victory.
    8) the ohla(?)
    i could go on like this but i am fed up typing now.

  • MJ

    I love the list!

  • nicoleredz3

    Uhhh..?

    Interesting. Yes, it’s a bit too American, though…

  • @bluesman87 [30]: & @oouchan [33]:
    –thanks — you both get gold medals for answering the question exactly as i asked it.

    unfortunately i did not ask it correctly

    what im really interested in is the percentage of posts/comments from the areas. i only make this distinction because it seems *a lot* of comments are from elsewhere — more than 35.5%
    –i dont have the knowledge about computers and ipo addresses to know if its even possible to track something like this, but i love statistics, and am always looking for ways to emperically explain things

  • MagSwede

    Regarding the play off beard originating from the Islanders in 80-83 and being picked up by Bjorn Borg. Borg effectively retired in 81, so he’s as much the origin.

  • MagSwede

    Ohh, and keep the great list coming. American or not!

    To people complaining – get a life or submit your own lists.

  • Fazrin

    T0inKz…i don’t know why all of you get so angry with raul.he just expressing his opinion…

  • weidermeijer

    In the picture in #2, it would be awesome if someone from the Bulls just got up and decked that old man. Not Michale, of course… but someone needs to inflict pain upon him.

  • Christopher 13

    @ bluesman87

    Im only refering to the traditions on the list. Im not a fan of ice hockey but all sports have there tradition. Unfortunately they do not appear on this list.

    @Akashtorturedmind
    now that would be an interesting list

  • Arsnl

    Why dont we move our ass and say some of our own traditions. Theyd be much more interesting than the heckler or whatever.
    Im thinking now of liverpools you’ll never walk alone chant.
    What about jimmy jump: the exhibitionist that starts running naked on the pitch.
    And ofcourse who could forget the giving of the cup when the team is surrounded by fans. Its not as flashy as a ceremony on the pitch but im glad platini revived that tradition. It should be celebrated with the fans in the stadium.
    Other great stories: being buried on the pitch (i cant remember who does that- everton would be my guess) or maybe the black and white stripes of juventus that were originaly meant to be pink and white i think.
    I dont know how you could have forgotten to include the haka. Thats just poor research from
    your part. A list should be or try to be complete. This isnt. How can some
    guys that werent sold beer on the yankee stadium beat the haka. Shame. Poor list.

  • Scratch

    I like this list, but maybe that’s because I’m Canadian.

    The Ottawa Senators fans have a tradition where they become Montreal fans every time Ottawa is eliminated – but only after complaining bitterly that their team wasn’t trying hard enough.

    Here’s an idea for those who felt sorely cheated by not having their favourite traditions included:
    10 More Stories Behind Crazy Sports Traditions.

    Boom! Problem solved.

    This has been another problem solved by Scratch. You’re welcome.

  • Nauplius

    I think you could have included some more general traditions like the origin of the wave or how streaking became popular. I also think you should have included Rollen Stewart the John 3:16 guy.

  • JohnnyDaMan

    Good list.
    I love that you included the roll call. I am a die hard Yankee fan and it is a great tradition that connects the fans to the players. Here is a video for you guys.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZUJXQIsakE

    I would have like to known the origin of goal songs.

  • 1gav

    I’m wondering if the USA entertains more sports than other nations…

  • Julius

    @Arsnl [46]: the idea of juve playing in pink&black creeps me out everytime :-) couple of years back they had a pink away jersey, that was bad enough ;-) speaking of Italy, the whole ultra scene might have been included too (burning parts of your own stadium whenever your team has a couple of bad games is craaaazy…never heard of being buried on the pitch kinda doubt it’s true ( would screw up the pitch way too much…) the haka would have been perfect for this list it even intimidates me when I watch it on the tv or from the stands ;-)

  • bluesman87

    @Nauplius [48]:Also what about where cheer leaders come from?

  • GTT

    Not a hockey fan but I really liked the octopus one… Absolutely hilarious!

    And count me as part of the crowd wondering how the NZ haka did not make the list. That has to be one of the most fascinating traditions I´ve ever witnessed. Though I heard somewhere that it was no longer allowed? Anyone know if that´s true? And if it is, what is the reasoning behind it?

  • gersgraeme

    I Quote,

    “The best way to show support for your favorite team is to proudly wear the team colors. Greater solidarity comes from tens of thousands of your fellow sports fanatics all wearing the same color. Its beginnings may have come from the NHL’s Calgary Flames during the 1986 Stanley Cup Finals. ”

    Ill tell you the now for Football / soccer, Scotland have always played in blue, Brazil have always been yellow, same as rangers will be blue and celtic are always green and white, all the fans wear the jerseys. For this reason im gonna bet it never started in 1986 Stanley cup finals.

  • I usually don’t really like the sports lists, but this one was great! Who cares if they are largely American sports? Like someone up there said ^, it doesn’t take away from the list to not know the rules of the sport. I would like to see another similar list with other sports and countries represented, but there is nothing wrong with this one.

  • GTT

    @Julius [51]: There is a local football/soccer team here in Peru called the Sport Boys that has pink jerseys as their team color.

    My husband is a fan.

    I remember the first few times I saw him proudly wearing that pink jersey I was trying (and failing) not to laugh out loud. :lol:

  • One of the problems with trying to make a list that isn’t _____-centric is that possible entries need to be push aside just to make the list more worldly. Just think, if gabi319 had actively tried to make the list appeal to the commenters to yell “Too American!” at any opportunity, we might not know about octopodes and the illustrious career of Heckler #1.

  • Julius

    @gersgraeme [54]: I think the difference is that in a normal rugby/football/whatever match not everyone dresses entirely in their team colours, most people just wear a scarf, or a jersey and not entirely red like in the picture. Might just be because its a hockey game (and therefore indoors) whereas in Scotland/england its often too cold to go without a jacket.

    @GTT [53]: The Haka should never/ will never be disallowed. I am not an All Blacks fan (far from it) but its an important piece of Rugby Heritage. There have been a couple of controversies around it but the All Blacks have always performed it, on one occasion inside their dressing room because the Welsh Rugby Union was bitching about something. Also, there is a funny statistic (I don’t know if its 100% true) that I read somewhere. It states that teams choosing to ignore the Haka lose more often then teams who choose to face it.

    @GTT [56]: There’s also Palermo in Italy who wear pink and black… I think it’s nice to see people supporting a club not because it’s successful or because the kit looks cool but because they feel a connection.

  • Cam-Bot

    Interesting enough list. The heckler guy sounds like a funny bloke, even though he looks like a physics lecturer.

    I must say that it would be great if, instead of whinging about lists being “too-American”, people took the time to share an example from their own homeland. Here is a good one from Australian Rules Football:

    Between the years of 1978-1985, the fans of the Carlton Blues would all shout ‘WOW!” at the tops of their lungs every time that big Warren Jones kicked the ball. The story goes that the 200 cm (6’7″) and 103 kg (227 lbs) Jones had a large’ W’ prominently tattooed on both of his butt cheeks. His party trick was to bend over whilst naked and voila… WoW!

  • Sleepy Carl

    Excuse me, but Penn State should be noted for our WHITEOUT not Code Blue. And Detroit is the Red Wings, not the Redwings.

  • Arsnl

    @Julius [51]: well maybe you will believe wikipedia: ” More than 800 fans’ ashes have been buried at Goodison Park and since 2004 the club have had to reject further requests because there is no room for any more.”
    So its actually the ashes. But still thats the craziest thing in my opinion:” honey, you’re the light of my eyes, but i have to be buried where rooney played.”. Its not a jimmy hoffa thing though. Their names i think are written on the side.
    @Julius [58]: thats cuz statistically they win more games than they lose. But they’ve lost against france. I wish i could see a haka live. Another poor colour choice was arsenals golden letters. Thats looked awful.

  • Keith

    FYI: Pittsburgh (Pirates) features the Pierogie Races.

  • Julius

    @Arsnl [61]: Yeah, the ashes make more sense ;-) i was thinking of corpses….
    Arsenal has had some terrible kits over the years (as pretty much every other club) but this takes the cake http://www.premiershirts.net/wearthat/wearthatshirts/arsenal.jpg
    D’uh I know they win more than they lose, but they win even more than usual if the other team choose to ignore the Haka.

  • reggae

    TOO AMERICAN!!!!!

  • Arsnl

    @Julius [63]: my fav is the jerdey from stade francais, rugby team from paris. http://www.rugbyshop.com/produits/medium/5998H1.jpg
    They have many more strange ones.

  • Julius

    @Arsnl [65]: Wow, just wow that has got to be one of the most terrible jerseys I have ever seen….These ones are also quite hideous: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/58469-twenty-of-the-worlds-worst-football-jerseys

  • undaunted warrior 1

    Every year we have the super 14 rugby matches here in my country, some are played here some of them are played away from home.

    One of our local teams are called The Blue Bulls, and the supporters get into a frenzy when a try is scored by them.

    Many supporters wear the blue construction hard hats with horns attatched to both sides of the helmet, the vibes in the crowds is unbelievable.

    Im sure Julius has seen them, as he stayed in Cape Town for a while.

  • schiesl

    The first thing I thought of was the New Zealand National Rugby team doing the Haka Dance. Wish that was on here. It is awesome and a terrifying sight for the other team.

  • Julius

    @undaunted warrior 1 [67]: I’m more of a Stormers / WP man myself, but yeah I’ve seen the hats :-)

  • Arsnl

    @Julius [66]: i know. And you see them on billboards. All looking furious and the funny lady on their jersey. It cracks me up every time. What about best outfits. Id put brazil. That green and yellow looks really great.

  • KiwiMatt

    Here is a bit more on the haka for those that are unfamiliar. The haka tradition in the sporting context is a Maori (Polynesian) war dance. It is a display of stamping, hitting the body and aggressive gestures accompanied by a chant that bellows out strength and unity to an opposition at the beginning of a match. The New Zealand national rugby team, the All Blacks, was the original team to perform a haka before a match and have been doing so since 1906 but other national teams such as the Kiwis Rugby League team have also adopted it.

    The All Blacks and Kiwis haka is called “Ka mate” and is based on triumphing over death. It is from a particularly savage Maori chief called Te Rauparaha who performed it on an occasion in which he escaped his enemies. Most New Zealand high school rugby teams have their own version of the haka that they will use for special matches or international games.

    Other Pacific nations also perform similar challenges such as the Samoan “siva tau”, the Tongan “sipi tau” or the Fijian “civi”. When two Pacific teams face off they will lay down their challenge at the same time, which is a breathtaking sight to behold.

    Great haka moments include the faceoff between the English Richard Cockerill and All Black Norm Hewitt during the haka at Old Trafford in 1997. This boiled over later on into a fistfight that left Cockerill battered with a back eye. Other moments include the Australian Wallabies ignoring the All Black’s haka and warming up while it was being performed rather than standing to the challenge. In 2006 the Welsh Rugby Union ruled that the All Blacks would perform the haka before their national anthem rather than immediately before the match. The All Blacks declined this and performed it in the changing room before entering the field.

    Other teams at other times have dealt with it in other ways such as the Welsh singing at the top of their lungs or the fearsome South African Springboks grimly facing it shoulder to shoulder (and on occasions, laughing). The NZ media and some members of the public have become quite precious and pedantic about how opposing teams should respect the haka by insisting that they face it as a team. But in this Kiwi Listverser’s opinion any team should be able to treat it however they please whether that be warming up, singing or banning it from their home ground altogether.

    I always think Kiwis put more into it than the All Blacks. Here is an example of the Kiwis haka in the 2008 world cup final:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuXmk4tVoSE

  • Maggot

    What a fun list, gabi! A great read. My only complaint is that is wasn’t American enough. I had to read THREE whole entries before feeling the comforting embrace of an American-centric item. But you were only lulling me into a false sense of security for those next three American items, secretly plotting to completely disorient me with #4, a Canadian sport but an American team’s tradition. That was a dirty trick. It’s like, if I whine about it being not American enough, you have an out. Well played. I was on the road to recovery as you pulled me back to the wonderful awesomeness of American-centricity with the next two items, even dazzling me with a photo of one of America’s biggest sports icons. With all the euphoria I was feeling, I stupidly fell for it and whole-heartedly forgave you and felt like we were really bonding, only to be slapped in the face once again with the same dual-centric emotional nightmare on the final entry. What a tangled web we weave, gabi. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, I’m a fucking idiot.

  • Julius

    @Arsnl [70]: Best Outfits: Football: Celtic, Juventus, Real Madrid(I hate them but all white is classy…), Spain, Valencia. Rugby: All Blacks, Springboks, Harlequins, Stormers….

  • Maggot

    By the way, is it just me or did anyone else notice the pic for item #3…the guy on the left. Methinks it’s not just his face and upper torso that is painted orange. Longhorns indeed.

  • KiwiMatt

    @Julius [73]: I reckon the English rugby team have always had great strips.

  • General Tits Von Chodehoffen

    Yeah Pittsburgh and Penn State!

  • gabi319

    Thanks, Jamie, for putting up this list and thanks to those who enjoyed it. Jamie changed the title a bit. It was originally ’10 stories behind sports fan traditions.” A minor change but the list is still about the sports FAN and not the team or even about the specific sport aside from providing context. I’m not really sure what the ‘I don’t know what this particular sport is, therefore this whole list is mediocre’ comments are all about. I tried to write as little about the actual sports as I possibly could on a sports-themed list.

    With regards to the ‘too American’ complaints, I can’t say I’m surprised. I’m almost flattered. Nowadays it seems you never really “make it” in LV until a horde of people throw out the over-used complaint that your list is too ‘-centric’. Funny thing is that I wrote a list a while back that completely focused on one single aspect of one single country and that didn’t receive any -centric complaints there. At least the complainers here bothered to read this list first before bashing it….right? right?? Right??

    @Chris [27]:
    I did look into Rugby. I watched a live game back in college and recalled the loud and electric atmosphere and was certain there’d be an item here dedicated to just those crazed Rugby fan traditions but couldn’t find much. The haka is more of a team tradition as opposed to a fan tradition (which was the whole basis of this list). There were stories of songs that fans sing but IMO that’s not too crazy. The only thing I could find was a Wales fan who cut off his own testicles when celebrating a team win but I’m sincerely hoping that doesn’t become a fan tradition.

    @Christopher 13 [34]: You would swear the person who wrote it has never left North America
    Lol. I’m flattered that you’re that interested in my life. Untwist your panties. Rest assured I was born at the other end of the world. …as physically far away from North America as one can get. I never knew that was a prerequisite for submitting lists.

    Thanks again to those who read the list.

  • Arsnl

    @Julius [73]: spains jersey is boring. Id rather put in croatia’s tshirt. And also italy. Cool blue. And holland. With that old style look.
    I think a football list should be appropiate. The world cup is drawing near. Cant wait but with out zidane some of its charm will be lost. Messi i can just bet is going to be useless.

  • General Tits Von Chodehoffen

    You know why this list is “too American?” Because all the best sports are played in America. The only sport that we suck at is soccer, and soccer is soooooo boring. @gabi319 [77]: Don’t listen to the haters. List is hard!

  • Arsnl

    @General Tits Von Chodehoffen [79]: you also suck at rugby. Chess, being loved as a people, any contest that involves being silent/discrete.

  • Maggot

    @Arsnl [80]: you also suck at rugby

    Things we suck at, we don’t care about. Oh some of us may pretend to care. But we really don’t. And we also don’t care that you think this makes us arrogant. We suck at humbleness.

  • E

    Great list!

    Kind of confused how this is “too American”. Hockey started in Canada and there are 4 hockey posts and South Africa is in Africa. How is this too American?

    Too bad people like 7raul7 have no idea what a hockey puck or a baseball is.

  • PM

    Just one minor quibble the team is the Red Wings, two words.

    Four hockey items may please this Wings fan, but most Americans don’t give a rat’s rear about hockey. Anyone calling it too American-centric, when almost half the items are about hockey is as ignorant as they claim this list is.

  • Rod Shaw

    Clearly the people reading these lists are a bunch of morons. The origin of Hockey is Canadian NOT American….look it up people.

    Hockey also has a much stronger following in Canada than it does in America but clearly you dimwits didn’t watch or read about the 2010 Winter Olympics to understand that.

    This list was more Canadian Centric than anything.

  • Julius

    @Arsnl [78]: Good point about Croatia, love that Jersey…As for a Soccer list, i was busy working on a list about derbies…should try to finish it…

  • Julius

    @Arsnl [78]: Good point about Croatia, love that Jersey…As for a Soccer list, i was busy working on a list about derbies…should try to finish it…

    @General Tits Von Chodehoffen [79]: To each their own… I haven’t tried baseball yet but American football is quite fun…but no sport is “Better” than another sport, it’s just a question of what you like/don’t like.

  • Julius

    @Rod Shaw [84]: lol, the origin of hockey is neither canadian nor american…there are pictures of people playing something similar to hockey from 2000BC, but the actual word “hockey” is first mentioned in England.
    @Julius [85]: sry about the doublepost

  • VintageObsessive

    The picture for #2 Heckling is perfect! Love Michael Jordan’s expression as Gramps undoubtedly yells “encouragement” from behind in a Bullets tee…

  • Rod Shaw

    @julius ok I’ll re-phrase myself. The first official hockey game as we currently know it was played March 3, 1875, Victoria Skating Rink, Montreal Canada. I’m not talking about when the word was first mentioned or what was played in 2000BC, I was speaking in more modern terms. Nevertheless the Hockey following is stronger in Canada than anywhere else.

  • VintageObsessive

    @Scratch [47]: Thanks Problem Solver!

  • therush

    Jesus I love the crying about this list being “too American”. How about you people submit your own list?

  • @KiwiMatt [71]: That’s so cool! I wasn’t aware of this tradition (I don’t watch a lot of rugby). Good contribution.

  • Fluffhead234508

    MAybe this list is American-centric because America has the biggest sports organizations in the world, stop complaining.

    One of the best lists in a long time. I’ve wondered about the origins of many of these traditions for a while, thanks.

  • Josh

    The Flames had eliminated Edmonton before reaching the Stanley Cup Final in ’86 (won by Montreal).

  • canadian beef

    glad to see so much hockey in this list. GO CANUCKS

  • MrSelfdestruct

    When I took an intro to physics class, there was a question regarding Newtonian physics. The question set up a scene where an octopus was thrown onto the ice, slid accross the ice and smacked into the boards. At the time, this puzzled me, but my prof quickly rectified this by describing the tradition and showing me that the text book publisher was in Detroit.

  • Grog

    Maybe it should be manditory that one thing per country be put on each list with no exceptions. Then this whole thing would be put to rest. Yes, one item per EVERY country in the ENTIRE world! Only then will my outrage over what was left out subside….

    Good list, though…..

    Just be entertained, people. These people make lists to entertain you.

  • teacherman

    Here is one that has been left out that we can all enjoy…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWSUAoYcH5c

    uh oh…

    I HEAR ANOTHER AMERICAN MILITARY DEBATE BREWING!

  • GTT

    @Julius [73]: BARÇA! :)

    @Arsnl [78]: I dont know if Messi in particular is going to be worthless but I am a little wary of Maradonna´s performance as tech. Should be a fun time though.

    My husband is actually going (this is like an advance birthday present for the rest of his life!) We are also in the process of collecting the official album (only 40 to go out of the 638!)… Yeah, big soccer fans! :)

    ***
    @Maggot [74]:
    @Maggot [81]:

    I did mention the whole “love you” thing in another post, right? :lol:

  • Silly Randolph

    RE: “Bleacher Creatures”: being fat, drunken, obnoxious louts in public does not a “tradition” make.

  • Bucketheadrocks

    I feel bad for the octopuses :(

  • Maggot

    @GTT [99]: [blush]

  • Casualreader

    GTT

    VIVA BARÇA!!

    It hurt to watch em lose in the Champions, and to such typically boring Italian defending (however technically accomplished: i.e. where was Messi in both matches?). But I hope they get the league by hanging on to that one precious point (or increasing it). Ever seen the cost of the Real team compared with the cheapo lot at Barça?

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Messi win anything, and I’m a great fan of Zanetti too, among others, but not in an Argentina run by Madonna (sorry, Maradona). If you want to know of the origin of a Brit fan tradition called +We All Hate Maradona, it’s called +The Hand of God+. How we all laughed when the arrogant little prick got humiliated by the +Backhand of God+ across his rump up at La Paz. Five in the net from one of the shakiest teams in the region!

  • chicano 69

    this list really needed more variety too much hockey

    also there is a really good tradition over here in mexico of soccer football when the goalie kicks the ball its common for people of the opposing team to scream puto or bitch in english also fighting very common over here in soccer games

  • SleepySasquatch

    I apologise if i’m treading on any toes here but I don’t understand this ‘-centric’ matter. I am British, have been reading listverse for a couple of years now and am not particularly knowledgeable on facts regarding American football (or just football if you prefer) or baseball but surely that can only peak ones interest further? Learning about something that you know nothing of opens up endless possibilities; for all I know in baseball during a break it’s a rule that some of the players run onto the pitch naked :P

    I can sympathise with those who are sometimes aggrivated by the sometimes seeming over-prevalence of American culture in our modern age, but to them I would state that there is a time, place and manner with which to discuss such matters, and speaking frankly on a list that’s simply offering some insight and entertainment is not any of them.

    Once again, I apologise for any disrespect as such is not my intention but this whole matter just seems rather ridiculous to me.

  • Casualreader

    @ Arsnl,

    I believe what you call +jimmy jumping+ is perhaps more commonly and widely known as streaking. Look it up in Wikipedia and you’ll find running naked in public places goes back a long way and originated outside sport. The term +streaking+ in that sense is said to have been coined in the early 1970s. But a combination of sport, TV for the masses and scrummy female bodies made it one of the most popular lone-fan(ny)-watching traditions ever. It has perhaps always been most prevalent in the UK, and in a quite wide variety of sports there, mostly sports with balls too (though no records from ping-pong yet, I think). Good old English inhibition, what, don’t cha know. So … get some in, you all-American majority here. The old continent can still hold its own in some things. Hahaha. Don’t try to try to tell us watching well-formed, nubile, curvaceous bodies bound and bounce across a cricket or rugby pirch is as boring as those sports either! (I was addressing male posters there, needless to say.) One of the earliest and most famous protagonists was a young lady called Erica Roe at a cricket match, who like one or two others, used her fame (or notoriety) to go on to make a public career of her body (and I’m talking legit, not hooker of the non-rugby variety).

    Try a website called +Top Ten Female Streakers+ One is captured on film at the apex of a cartwheel! Sorry, JFr, you’ve been beaten to that +Top 10+! Hahaha.

    Oh, I forgot to add: bony, hairy males streak with their dangly bits on display too, but somehow that’s about as boring as …

  • @Bucketheadrocks [101]:
    “I feel bad for the octopuses”

    –you shouldnt…..any young octopus worth his/her ilk spends many an afternoon trolling in the water, daydreaming of one day getting hurled onto the ice at joe louis arena in front of 20,059 adoring fans.
    it gives their lives purpose.
    it makes them smile.
    otherwise cephalopods just lead dreary lives in the water, jealous of their bretheren — longing to have nikki lindstrom pick them up with his stick, and praying to the octopus gods that they too will one day be twirled around by the zamboni driver.

    such a sad life, is that:

    the life of the octopus

  • michgirl

    I enjoyed the list. Happy to see my Wings on the list, especially as we are in round 2 of the playoffs. Hopefully the octopuses will be flying. Hockey may have originated in Canada but the Detroit Red Wings were 1 of the 8 original NHL teams and Detroit is considered Hockey Town! Besides the octopuses we also have a statue in Detroit that wears a giant Wings jersey during playoff season.

  • TJ

    Awesome List!

    NFL is my sport!!!! Real Football!!!!

    Jacksonville Jaguars!!! MJD For MVP!!!

  • GTT

    @Casualreader [104]: :lol:

    So you’re a Brit, huh? I’m guessing I probably shouldnt kid about the whole “Hand of God”thing but it’s such a well-known (and dare I say loved?) tradition here in SA. People kinda idolize him for that…. :)

    Anyway, moving on before I get backhanded here on LV…. It was TOUGH watching them lose especially to such a cowardly defensive strategy… It will be a sad, sad day when soccer loses the energy and joy of soemthing like the “joga bonito”…

    Oh, and as a final note, I just watched the Shakira World Cup video… While I dont think it’s a great song by any stretch of the imagination, the scenes kinda gave me a warm, fuzzy, football-lovin’ feeling… Might I suggest a looksy?

    (Sorry, I’ve been having trouble with the site so that’s why I’m not logged in… :) )

  • amnyc

    Regarding #1 (the Detroit Octopus):

    There was a brief time (in the late 1990’s) where the NHL came very close to canceling the Red Wings’ awesomely slimy tradition. And of course, it has to do with weirdness in Florida.

    From the Wikipedia article:

    “Also during that season, a very unusual goal celebration developed in Miami. On the night of the Panthers’ 1995–96 home opener, a rat scurried across the team’s locker room. [Panthers RW Scott] Mellanby reacted by “one-timing” the rat against the wall, killing it.[1] That night, he scored two goals, which [goalie John] Vanbiesbrouck quipped was “a rat trick.” Two nights later, as the story found its way into the world, a few fans threw rubber rats on the ice in celebration of a goal. The rubber rat count went from 16 for the third home game to over 2,000 during the playoffs.”

    During the playoffs, the sheer volume of rats on the ice meant that each Panthers goal delayed the game for several minutes as the clean-up crew had to get all those rats off the ice:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky2QHT4UJ4M

    The NHL Commissioner was (somewhat justifiably) worried about the new “tradition” spreading to other teams (in that just about any team can find an appropriate item to throw on the ice should they feel sufficiently inspired). So a new rule was passed: any delay from any object thrown on the ice would mean a penalty for the home team. Not wanting to hurt their home team, Red Wings fans briefly curtailed their celebratory octo-tosses; at least, until it became apparent that the NHL wasn’t about to enforce the new rule in a draconian fashion.

    The end result: the rat tossing in Florida is now just a memory of a short-lived fad (although the Panthers’ past decade of mediocrity probably had as much to do with ending the tradition as the NHL rule). But the Motor City’s cephalopods still squirm on.

  • Seanithan

    I’m beginning to think that half the readers of these lists have IQs below 75.

  • bluesman87

    @undaunted warrior 1 [67]: @Julius [69]: Have you seen the Big blue plastic testicles they hang from the back of their bakkies/pickups ? Blue balls for the Blue Bulls.

  • Julius

    @Casualreader [104]: @GTT [111]: Barca deservedly lost. Over two legs, they simply didn’t have a plan B and were outsmarted immensely by Inter. As for “boring”, in the first leg, it was more exciting to watch Inter IMO. Xavi&co tried to go through the same channels over and over again and they failed time after time. This victory will start the end of barca’s golden era, because now other teams have a recipe against barca, that works bloody well. And Guardiola obviously doesn’t have a backup-plan. I hate Inter, but Kudos to Mourinho.

  • fendabenda

    Seanithan, I ain’t got no IQ, I’ve got a VW!

  • Scratch

    @VintageObsessive [90]:

    No problem, it’s what I do.

    @the soccer discussion:

    Inter deserved to win: “Well, we are now used to players who fall to the ground clutching their face while looking at the referee.” ~ Mourinho.

  • DD
  • Casualreader

    @ Julius, 115,

    “@Casualreader [104]: @GTT [111]: Barca deservedly lost. Over two legs, they simply didn’t have a plan B and were outsmarted immensely by Inter.”

    I have no argument with that. But to take a wider view. Every team has its +bogey+ opponents. Any team involved in too many competitions can also run out of steam and lose the lot. In their heyday, Leeds United were on the way to three once and lost the lot. Are you following the +Barça+ effect in the home league AFTER the stuffing? Heads dropped? We’re a finished force? Hahaha. Do we know that Gardiola (assuming he continues) isn’t bright enough to adapt or +evolve+, to give it a Darwinian slant, to changing challenges? We shall see.

    Obviously that match was watched on the media by everyone with a career interest. It will be intriguing to see if World Cup managers picked up the technique of smothering Messi. I bet the god-idle with feet of (not Cassius) clauy, Madonna, wet his boots watching! I hope so.

    Personally I would rather see the hold of the dominant top one, two or four teams broken, as seems to have happened in Argentina. Otherwise they just continue to pile up more resources and become evevn more dominant and arrogant. If that’s unrealistic, then at all events I don’t want the one with the biggest bank balance (or debt) of all to simply keep buying success. I love it when that top dog gets its nose rubbed in its own shit!

    I don’t think soccer needs more goals to make it exciting. Tightly fought draws (sound like an attempted rape scene!) with ebbing and flowing attacks, plenty of goalmouth incident and attempts on goal at either end, plus brillant keepers in action can be far more exciting than rountine wins. I hate cold, passionless, defensive games where one team just draws out the other and wins with its only one or two counter-attacks of the match. People pay huge money to watch that shit. I suppose if they are the winning side’s fans they don’t give the same shit. But for millions of neutrals wasting their time watching on TV? I know it’s technically perfect, and the only aim os to win, no matter how. But bollocks! And that goes even for the team I follow through thick and thin.

  • Casualreader

    And don’t get me going on how crap refereeing ruins matches and betrays the high skills of great players and destroys years of work and hopes of teams either! France in the World Cup? Not Ireland? The +Hand of God+ still rules, O.K. Just watch a few old clips of John McEnroe having a wobbly instead to get my mood!

  • bluesman87

    I am acting as a escourt and host to patrons of the SWC in Johannesburg . If you coming or know if anyone comning hit me up – i can show you around and get you ANYTHING….ANYTHING you want cept tickets .

  • Casualreader

    GTT

    Are you still looking in? If so, please let me know and keep loking.

  • Casualreader

    Errrr … looking. I seem to have reached the point where I can’t even write a couple of simple sentences without a typo. Does that mean I’m doomed to end up a +textistic+?

  • GTT

    @Casualreader [119]:

    I agree 100% with your post. There is nothing more exciting than watching a game where both sides are fighting for the ball, both sides are busting their asses and both sides have plenty of attempts at goal (even if they dont all go in)… That is exactly why I hated the Inter strategy. They concentrated all of their players in the defensive line and had almost no goal attempts. It would have been exactly as exciting if they had all just stood shoulder to shoulder between the posts to prevent a goal. Yeah, it was effective but it wasn´t exactly exciting or “bonito”.

    As to your “top dogs” argument, I also agree. Isnt this what happened to Real Madrid a few years ago? They had all the “stars” and still managed to lose every single competition they played in. Shoulda stayed that way! ;)

  • @Maggot [74]: “item #3…the guy on the left. Methinks it’s not just his face and upper torso that is painted orange.”

    –those crazy college kids…..it should clearly state — on the container of body paint —
    ‘caution: after application, the scratching of your nuts is not recommended’
    of course, upon further examination of the picture, it appears as if the guy on the left does not have paint on his hands, but the guy on the right does….hmmmm

    nah—i cant rip on the longhorns too much, since u.of alabama is my alma mater, and the tide spanked them in the national championship game in janurary…..

  • Casualreader

    @ GTT, 124,

    I fear we’re coming down a bit off the terraces and onto the pitch, but never mind, fans do that as a +tradition+ sometimes too, and streakers certainly do (no streaking, please, I’m British!).

    Here’s a piece of utter sporting irony for you based on our last posts. Stop and consider that Italians are some of the most spontaneous, lively, outgoing, fun-loving, extroverted people in the world. And people from the dreary, colder northern lands are more reserved, dour, self-controlled, disciplined, etc. Then think of which country invented the perfect ‘killjoy’ soccer defence and compare it with the long history of the wonders of flamboyant, attacking Dutch football. Really wierd, eh?

  • Maggot

    @oliveralbq [125]: i cant rip on the longhorns too much, since u.of alabama is my alma mater, and the tide spanked them in the national championship game in janurary

    So you aren’t a UNM Lobo, eh?

  • Kid from Vault 101

    arent comment wars fun!?!?!?! XD

  • bluesman87

    @bluesman87 [121]: That sounds Douchey anything within reason and law;)

  • @Maggot [127]: “So you aren’t a UNM Lobo, eh?”

    –meh– i mean….i did go there for a year…i moved to albuquerque right before high school….and i do root for the lobos, but its more out of pity

    i got most of my degrees in tuscaloosa

    and here in the new orleans area, with all the coon ass l.s.u. people here in the mississippi and louisiana swamps, flying the crimson and white flag on my porch pisses everyone off :)
    plus, they probably dont even know what lobos really are.

  • @bluesman87 [121]: “I am acting as a escourt and host to patrons of the SWC” ” i can show you around and get you ANYTHING….”
    –a little cutting and pasting, allowing us to take your offer a little out of context…..
    @bluesman87 [129]: “That sounds Douchey anything within reason and law;)”
    –ooh, awwww.. now i know 3 new orleans girls who are going to be disappointed….
    way to get their hopes up, blue :S :/

  • bluesman87

    @oliveralbq [131]: hahaha nobody will know for sure what i can get till they get here ;) , im doing some things for friends comng over , thought maybe i could expand , but i bet its too late.

  • @bluesman87 [132]: “nobody will know for sure what i can get till they get here”

    youre hysterical—-

    blue87: welcome to south africa!
    new orleans girl: can you show us ‘x’?
    other new orleans girl: can you get us ‘y’?
    blue87: that will be a resounding, maybe!!! come with me!

    well played man

  • bluesman87

    @oliveralbq [133]:Come on i’m not small time – not just a resounding maybe a definite and garuanteed maybe!

    blue87: welcome to south africa!
    new orleans girl: can you show us ‘x’?
    can you get us ‘y’?
    blue87: of course!just hop into the back of my rusty old van with blacked out windows.I also have free candy inside!
    new orleans girl:Why are you dressed as a clown ?
    blue87:oh….no reason…
    Hahaha :)

  • @bluesman87 [134]: “Come on i’m not small time – not just a resounding maybe a definite and garuanteed maybe!”
    —i stand corrected….i’ll send them down

    “new orleans girl:Why are you dressed as a clown ?”
    —if you dont wanna field this question, buy gold, purple and green plastic mardi gras beads, and put them around your neck — then offer them alcohol…

    its still a soccer event. every sporting event ive been to here, from the new orleans hornets to the saints to the sugar bowls, to pga and usta (golf & tennis) events, the presence of mardi gras beads turns people’s brains into ‘party auto-pilot’ mode. and there isnt anything wrong with that, no matter how crazy of a tradition that is.

  • bluesman87

    @oliveralbq [135]: What are mardi gras beads ?

  • @bluesman87 [136]: “What are mardi gras beads ?”

    aw, shit man….

    uuhhh…forgot you were in south africa….
    i *might* be able to explain this to you—-
    its 3am i got a little time.

    –in rio de janiero, quebec city, mobile al, biloxi ms, and new orleans the carnival season is richer and more extravagent than anywhere else.
    –mardi gras references the period of time between the epiphany (in jan) and ash wednesday (dont ask me the significance of the catholic holidays — i dont have any idea)….all i know is that lent starts ash wednesday, and the day before that is ‘fat tuesday’. residents of these cities have made this grand tradition of going batshit crazy the week leading up to lent, including closing all schools, courts, city hall, roads, throwing masquerade balls, and having massive parades.

    –the parades — ok–people on the floats (which there are hundreds and hundreds of in appx 175 parades here on the gulf coast (mobile, biloxi, gulfport, new orleans)) they throw shit…little trinkets, doubloons, nerf footballs, moon pies (these marshmallow/banana/chocolate cookie things), and beads.
    –the beads are little cheap plastic bead necklaces (probably cost about 5 cents each) that the float riders throw to the parade watchers, making it a more interactive type of parade, which is good since everyone is piss drunk by 1 pm

    someone somewhere (i certianly do not understand how this transformed) people decided to take the party to the streets of the french quarter (in new orleans) –pass road in biloxi and gulfport (my street!), streets of rio, etc.
    many of the buildings have balconies, and the ones that dont, ive seen people put lawn chairs on their roofs — not real fucking safe, but ..meh..who cares

    meanwhile, the street itself is mobbed with people….the last time i went, you literally could not take three steps — wall to wall people, in and out of bars on bourbon st, and orleans ave….hell, everywhere in the french qtr.

    let me back up
    lining along the parade routes (which is a popular thing for families to do), the float riders mainly throw all the trinkets at children, as the children yell “throw me something, mister!” and often you will see kids (especially after the krewe of neptune parade, and the zulu parade) walking around with pillowcases full of crap, and 75 bead necklaces around their necks.

    at some point this spilled over to the night parties
    where requests of “throw me something mister!” was met with “show me your tits!”

    which they did
    no problem whatsoever
    and if you dont want to take part then:
    stay out of new orleans the day before ash wednesday period

    flashing became more and more commonplace on fat tues, then spilled out to the rest of carnival season. at the same time, tits turned into tits asses whatever you have that is normally covered up, can get revealed for these little stupid ass mardi gras beads.
    now, pretty much any weekend night in the french quarter, any new orleans saints home game, any holiday, if youre in the right place at the right time, you can see the exchange of girls flashing for mardi gras beads.
    the city of new orleans does employee cops on horse back, because technically its indecent exposure, but you pretty much have to be stark naked, or throwing punches before the new orleans police will intervene (and quite frequently during carnival season, they dont even care about that — you just *cannot* fuck with the horses or youre going to jail). the rest of the year theyre a little stricter, but not much.

    this used to be confined to a certian area, during a certain week, but now, alcohol + oppurtunity = tits

    true, not every girl with beads has attained them the same way, there are many shy people that think wearing beads is fun or ‘new orleansy’ or whatever, but it has become a really weird phenomenon. seriously, no exaggeration, the last 5 times ive been to the superdome (4 saints games, and 1 alabama game), and a few recent basketball games across the street, it appears now almost entirely impossible to go the whole night without seeing the tits for beads exchange at least once.
    *then…go to bourbon st. on the right block, at the right time of night, drunk girls will get into competitions (showing tits for longer, showing more than tits — (if its late enough, getting ‘friendly’ with each other) to get longer strands of beads, bigger beads, and unique strands, be they flashy or blinky or shaped like saints helmets, or whatever.

    im no creole historian — i dont know the significance of some of the things that go on…
    shit, im not even from here

    but now, bluesman, you’ll have those damn beads around your neck and beers in your hand when the new orleans girls arrive in johannesburg, wont ya?

  • bluesman87

    Thank god africa is FULL of fucking beads!!! :-)

  • bluesman87

    @oliveralbq [137]: uuhhh…forgot you were in south africa….
    i *might* be able to explain this to you—-
    its 3am i got a little time.

    Hahaha good job explaing too dude .

  • thelord2000

    10 STORIES BEHIND AMERICAN SPORT TRADITIONS
    That should be the title.

  • @thelord2000 [140]: “10 STORIES BEHIND AMERICAN SPORT TRADITIONS
    That should be the title.”

    –yeah….cause #9 happens in america all the time…..

    –so, the title of this list should be:
    —-“9 stories about american sport traditions, and 1 story about south african sport traditions”

    no…sorry….i simply have to believe the stupid meat races was put there against the list authors will, and the haka should appear

    –so, the title of this list should be:
    —-“8 good stories about amer. sport tradition, 1 weak story about american sport tradition, and 1 story about south african sport tradition, and one new zeland tradition that got shafted by accident”

    oh oh… wait i think 3 of the hockey traditions actually started in canada or the olympics….

    –so the title of this list should be:
    —-5 stories about american sport tradition, 1 bad one, 1 new zeland one, a few that were attributed to america but which were really canadian, and one haka”

    fuck thats too long
    wait…..i got it
    the title of this list should be:
    “10 stories behind crazy sport traditions”
    and we can also create a list forum and have peeople
    leave comments about one that didnt appear, or anecdotal stories.

    and we can perpetuate this list for 3 years, and even pen a few books
    im glad i thought of that

    jafe—feel free to use this idea-(retroactive to july03, 2007)

  • Casualreader

    @ oliveralbq, 141,

    Hi again,

    Intention: Couldn’t be more friendly. I just want to:

    1) Apologise for never having straightened out previous silly spider spat (I like that one – Silly Spider Spat!) -based on total but sincere misunderstanding of local idioms. I could explain why and how it happened, how had you phrased it slightly in differently in (for me) recognisable Americana, I’d have picked up on the tone and intention. But why waste valuable time and screen-space? You betcha we’ve both got better fish to fry.

    Also in my first post, talking about crossing swords, I unfortunately confused you with another poster, and forgot you were friendly Keith. Sorry.

    2) Point out +Cas’s Law of Diminishing LV Returns+, colloquially known as +typing to thin air+!

    LV lists have their nearest equivalent in daily papers. With the difference that the more arcane or specialised the topic, the less its active life-span and posting total. More controversial and universal ones (+Your view+ types) often continue longer, akin to reference journals, attract new posters, and may even pile up comments into the 000s. But they are very few. The further down lists get buried, the less chance they are still +alive+. If they are, the more they tend to diverge off-topic, espcially into personal vendettas or friendship convos. I’d guess the average active life-span of a list is 1-2 weeks at the outside, and that may be a gross overestimate (i.e., it’s subject to a doctorate stat. research analysis). The same devoted inchworm could probably draw up an average daily response graph with a massive first day high, tapering rapidly away. Sometimes a discrete, disjunct comment is added long after the main body has ceased to function. Very occasionally that may even be taken up by another +lone poster+. I’ve often come late to a topic, been stirred into a reply or adding something I thought might interest, then looked in vain for a reaction for days, weeks, months afterwards. Fuck all. Mine is still stuck embarrassingly there on the end like a spare prick at a wedding. I don’t know whether all this has to do with list overloads, short internet e-attention spans, the diverse overall range of LV interests, or what. Personally I think your idea of developed lists is great. It’s right up my street. But it already happens haphazard within LV bounds (i.e. over the first day or so), and often with added fire and brimstone! That’s the nature of the beast.

  • thorlite

    @Fluffhead234508 [93]: Order number 71109 cheers [email protected]Fluffhead234508 [93]: erm, you don’t have a single organisation for sports that are the largest in the world you Dufus, world series indeed.

  • @Casualreader [142]: “I unfortunately confused you with another poster, and forgot you were friendly Keith. Sorry.”

    — :) dont let it happen again ;) haha kidding kidding

    –the phenomenon of diminishing traffic among lv lists is actually quite interesting……more interesting: that the outliers (and i mean outliers with a capital ‘o’) tend to be so far outside the standard deviation curve that a closer examination is needed into the cause/effect relationship.
    this appears to be more closely related to the topic(s) of discussion among the commentors, rather than simply the content of the list.
    of course, there are examples where this is not the case, such as the blossoming of the comment section corresponding with the list on warriors from last week. there are like 125 comments or so that say extremely similar things

    whats more: i believe if i sat and thought about this, i could find a way to mathematically quantify at least some of the ideas.
    this is something i have thought about before, but until now, never *actually* intended to assign variables, risk factors, and other empirical data to analytical matricies. i just may try this….
    the descriptive hypothesis regarding list life logic (!!!) you proposed is quite interesting. equally interesting to me, is — as you move away from the centre, you notice a couple patterns. almost inevitably, one will be that the side which has more factors will be replete with said factors residing closer to the mean. conversly, the side which has fewer, will have more further away from the mean. the clustering of incidences is nothing new, nor unexpected. its the outliers that reside so far away from the mean which spark an interest to me. why are they *that* obtuse….should the fact that they are so offset from the norm lead to an investigation of possible obfuscation of the mitigating factors behind their presence far away from the mean?

    i think i can figure this out (not literally figure out the problem, but rather figure out a way to enlighten us a touch)
    yep–i will do that — as will i make some comment on you post regarding justice,,…which is on another thread. just so happens i spent 5 semesters in independant readings classes pouring over the onset of deviant behaviour, its consequences in society, and where/how our preconcieved notion of justice fits in to all of this: including, but not limited to — using a model of justice as a deterrent, and as a social example of ‘how not to act’ mfor lack of a better phrase. if im not mistaken, you wrote about this exact thing about 3 days ago….

    when i have time to look for it, i will add on
    cheers

  • psychosurfer

    Great list, but the "Vuvuzela" story is a total hoax, I´ve seen those exact horns in Mexican football matches for at least 30 years.
    I guess that´s what happen in a country with no football history or background, they make up some.

  • ecas

    things as the hat-trick and c of red were already seen in football long before hockey or american football. shit list

  • These traditions are pretty cool. They do provide an encouraging support to the hard working players in the court or field. It just makes sense here, that without the fans and these traditions, any sport event wouldn't be succesful.

    Be a Fan

  • JVicious

    I love the representation for NHL hockey. Props.

  • archworf

    Didn’t say TOP 10…Didn’t say ONLY 10…Didn’t even say anything but 10. Feel free to submit ANOTHER 10, STILL MORE, etc., but kwitcherbitchen. Just don’t call it football traditions and have nothing but soccer on your list. Also, my car has neither a boot or a bonnet, and when it has a flat it doesn’t pay rent.

  • Calgaryachilles

    @scratch that’s fucking hilarious and too true.

    And in terms of traditions. I’d love to know why no one ever wants to touch the prince of wales cup.

    Furthermore if listverse has taught me anything it’s that every list can be expanded upon (ie “another 10 sports traditions”) STOP BITCHING

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