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Top 10 Reasons to Admire John Lennon

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John Lennon is one of the most influential people in history. His message of peace, love, and happiness will forever be remembered. In the 1960s and 70s, Lennon was revolutionary in changing negative social values. His lyrical tone was unmatched and musical prowess sensational. During his lifetime, John Lennon was the focus of a negative media campaign that saw his message as a threat.

Lennon was regularly battered by the press in the United States who fabricated stories to make him look bad. This trend has continued to the present day with hundreds of online articles giving material about isolated events in the life of Lennon and making false claims about his true personality. John Lennon was a musical pioneer and peaceful man. He helped introduce the world to rock & roll and free thought. For this, we will forever be grateful.

10

He Brings People Together

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNSy4DX60vk

In a time of national struggle, mourning, and suffering we always turn to the music and message of John Lennon. On October 2, 2001, three weeks after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, a television fundraiser titled Come Together: A Night for John Lennon’s Words and Music was broadcast in the U.S. The event was held at Radio City Music Hall in New York City and dedicated to the people of New York. Thousands of spectators gathered and celebrated the message of John Lennon’s music.

A large number of popular musicians came out to attend the concert and perform Lennon’s most famous songs. The lineup included Sean Lennon, Rufus Wainwright, Alanis Morissette, Nelly Furtado, Stone Temple Pilots, Marc Anthony, Moby, Natalie Merchant, Cyndi Lauper, Lou Reed, Dave Mathews, and Kevin Spacey.

Spacey performed Lennon’s song Mind Games, which features the famous line: “Make love, not war.” Before his performance, Spacey said: “John Lennon was many things to many people, a poet, a rocker, a leader, a troublemaker, a father, a husband, a man. Growing up, to me, he was a hero. The work of John Lennon was marked by its exquisite beauty and by its brutal honesty. So in that vein, let me say, that while I’m both deeply honored to be here — I’m also incredibly pissed-off. I’m outraged because this passionate prophet of peace and so many others are not with us here — because we live in an all-too-violent world. And so in the spirit of this occasion it is up to all of us, to do what we can, not only to keep John’s songs alive, but help rebuild New York.”

9

The Knowhere Man

When Beatlemania exploded in the middle of the 1960s, John Lennon was the target of unwarranted attacks by the media. He was asked absurd questions about his lyrical motivation. The pressure eventually took a toll and The Beatles stopped giving interviews or live shows. Lennon became interested in expanding his musical output and moved away from writing pop hits. This was met with hostility by the band’s corporate partners, who were only interested in making money. This was also met with hostility by Paul McCartney.

After the group disbanded in April of 1970, John Lennon did not focus his attention on material goods and moved toward spiritualism. Lennon and Yoko Ono undertook primal therapy with the guidance of Arthur Janov. McCartney released his first solo album titled McCartney in April of 1970. On December 11, 1970, John Lennon released his first solo album titled John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band. It was a major success and showed Lennon’s versatility. On December 31, 1970, Paul McCartney filed a lawsuit against the other three Beatles in London’s High Court for dissolution of a contractual partnership.

When asked how he would trace the breakup of The Beatles Lennon said: “After Brian (Epstein) died, we collapsed. Paul took over and supposedly led us, but what is leading us, when we went round in circles? That was the disintegration.”


8

Woman

A large number of false claims have been written about the true personality of John Lennon. Despite his incredible contributions to the world of music, some authors have attacked his character and falsified stories in order to sell books. In regard to woman, Cynthia Lennon wrote in her biography that John had knocked her head against the wall, which is unacceptable, but some authors have taken this information and written detailed accounts that are simply not true. John Lennon loved woman and often wrote about his admiration.

In the 1981 hit single Woman, Lennon wrote “Woman I can hardly express, my mixed emotions and thoughtlessness. After all I’m forever in your debt and woman I will try to express my inner feelings and thankfulness for showing me the meaning of success. Woman please let me explain I never meant to cause you sorrow or pain, I love you.” I think this quote is representative of a good-hearted man.

With the expansion of the Internet, some people have taken it upon themselves to publish material that was found in some bizarre books, like one written by a man named Albert Goldman. Goldman made some crazy claims about Lennon. Albert Goldman said that John Lennon was schizophrenic and a cold-blooded killer. That is ridiculous. All of these lies have caused some uneducated people to look back at Lennon’s music legacy in a false light, which only darkens the situation. Lennon once said: “Count your age by friends, not years. Count your life by smiles, not tears.”

7

A Hard Childhood

As people reach new milestones in life, they learn from past experiences and change unhealthy habits. People grow, repent, and often times look for forgiveness. John Lennon had a rough childhood. He was born during the start of World War II and never really knew his father. When Alfred Lennon returned from battle in 1944, Julia Lennon was pregnant with another man’s child. John Lennon was forced to move in with his maternal aunt Mimi Smith, who was often dismissive of his musical ambitions and girlfriends. On July 15, 1958, when Lennon was 17-years-old, his mother was struck by a car and killed after visiting John’s home.

John Lennon’s first son Julian was born in 1963, during a decade when his father was one of the most popular musicians in the world. John was extremely busy writing music, performing live shows, and he was at the center of important world issues, including war and religion. Lennon tried to make time for his son, but it was a difficult. John even dedicated a collection of Beatles songs to Julian, including Good Night, which was originally written by Lennon as a lullaby.

Many people have highlighted a collection of quotes made by Julian after his father’s death. He said that Paul McCartney was more of a father than John, but this stance has since changed. In 2011, Julian wrote on his Facebook page about being snubbed by Paul McCartney. He is quoted: “What have I done to be ignored in such a way?” and even threatened “maybe now it’s time to tell the truth, me and my mother will not be eradicated from history.” Apparently, Julian was not invited to a collection of intimate gatherings. In 1975, when John Lennon was given the second chance of raising a boy, he put his musical career on hold and became a good father to Sean Lennon.

6

The Mind of Lennon

John Lennon demanded attention when he spoke. People wanted to know what he was feeling and his stance on certain issues. This is one of the reasons it was so sad when John Lennon was murdered. People will never again get the opportunity hear what this man was thinking. We are going to take a look at some of Lennon’s most important quotes.

“Everything is clearer when you’re in love.”
“For our last number, I’d like to ask your help. Would the people in the cheaper seats clap your hands and the rest of you, if you’ll, just rattle your jewelry.”
“Nothing really affected me until I heard Elvis. If there hadn’t been an Elvis, there wouldn’t have been the Beatles.”
“Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary.”
“We’re trying to sell peace, like a product, you know, and sell it like people sell soap or soft drinks. And it’s the only way to get people aware that peace is possible.”
“When I was about twelve, I used to think I must be a genius, but nobody’s noticed. Either I’m a genius or I’m mad, which is it? I can’t be mad because nobody’s put me away, therefore I’m a genius.”
“Reality leaves a lot to the imagination.”
“I don’t mind people putting us down, because if everybody really liked us, it would be a bore.”
“I’d like to say “thank you” on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we passed the audition.”
“I hope I’m living off the coast of Ireland or something like that, looking at a scrapbook of madness.”

5

Group Innovation

John Lennon loved musical technology and was extremely important in bringing certain techniques to the front. In the 1960s, the Beatles helped influence the way music was recorded. The band had a strong impact on the evolution of sound, including techniques such as audio feedback, sampling, Artificial Double Tracking, and the use of multitrack recording machines. John Lennon was a musical master and would spend countless hours in the studio experimenting with new ideas.

In the early 1960s, Lennon demanded to know why the bass on a certain Wilson Pickett record far exceeded the bass on any Beatles records. This caused the group to experiment with a loudspeaker and microphone. For Paperback Writer McCartney said: “we boosted the bass by using a loudspeaker as a microphone. We positioned it directly in front of the bass speaker.” This caused the moving diaphragm of the second speaker to make electric current. “It was the first time that the bass sound had been heard in all its excitement.”

Audio feedback is a musical technique which includes adding a sound loop between an audio input and output. In the early 1960s, Lennon experimented with audio feedback and the song I Feel Fine (1964) was the first single to use guitar feedback on a record. Specifically, Lennon put his acoustic electric guitar against an amplifier and the ‘A’ string on McCartney’s bass gave feedback causing distortion. Artists such as The Kinks and The Who had already used feedback live, but The Beatles were the first to put it on vinyl.

In the middle of the 1960s, John Lennon asked an engineer at Abbey Road Studio named Ken Townsend if there was a way for the Beatles to get the sound of double-tracked vocals without actually doing the work. Townsend devised Artificial Double Tracking or “ADT” and Lennon named the process “flanging.” ADT greatly influenced recording and Lennon was a master of it. Today, the process is widely used and known as automatic double tracking. John Lennon was also instrumental in popularizing the concept of backmasking. The first song to feature a backmasking message was Rain, which was released by The Beatles in June 1966.


4

A Lyrical Poet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4p8qxGbpOk

Between the years of 1962 to 1970, The Beatles released 27 songs that went to #1 in the United Kingdom or the United States. 26 of these songs are attributed to the songwriting partnership of Lennon-McCartney. In fact, Lennon-McCartney is the most successful songwriting duo in history. When they were teenagers, John and Paul agreed that their songs would be credited to both parties.

In the early 1960s, Lennon and McCartney would often work “eyeball to eyeball” and bounce ideas off each other while writing songs. In a breakdown of these 27 #1 hit singles, 14 are thought to have been written primarily by McCartney, 7 by Lennon, 5 as collaboration, and 1 by George Harrison. It was rare that a song was published without some input from both Lennon and McCartney. During this time in history, the Lennon-McCartney writing style was unique and controversial. Their lyrical prowess was innovative and The Beatles helped spawn a new era of popular music.

In many of The Beatles songs, John Lennon writes about friendship, love, happiness, peace, and freedom. Some of his most famous lyrical masterpieces are Imagine, Come Together, All You Need is Love, I Feel Fine, Across the Universe, In My Life, Nowhere Man, and Strawberry Field Forever. John Lennon was a master of arrangement and understood how to develop of hit single. Later in his career, he wrote protest songs that examined world issues.

There is no question that John Lennon’s overall message remains 32 years after his death. “When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down “happy.” They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life.”

3

A Social Giant

In the 1960s, the spread of rock music had a powerful impact on society. Unlike anything government officials had seen before, music began to influence life activities, goals, fashion, attitudes, and even language. The Beatles became social giants and whatever they said or did was acceptable, especially for young people. The band taught people how to celebrate freedom and changed social norms. Their expression helped pave the way for modern individuality in music.

It was important for John Lennon to get his message of peace across to children. In 1969, Lennon was at the King Edward Hotel in Toronto when he came across a 14-year-old boy named Jerry Levitan who was attempting to meet his idol. Levitan said to Lennon: “John, can I come back later and bring a tape recorder and do an interview on peace, so I can let kids listen to it?” Lennon replied: “Yeah, great! Yoko, Derek, this kid has a good idea, he’s going to do an interview and take it to his school. That’s why we’re doing this! It’s great, great, great! Set it up!”

The next day Levitan returned and interviewed John Lennon for 30 minutes. Lennon was very nice and discussed his mission of peace and views on war. He is quoted: “Ask them to show you one revolution that turned out to be what they promised. Protest, but protest nonviolently because violence begets violence.” In 2007, Jerry Levitan produced a short 5 minute animated film with excerpts from the conversation. It won a collection of awards and is a must watch.


2

Pure Talent

John Lennon has one of the most unique voices in the history of music. His instinctive sound is immediately identifiable, similar to Jagger, Dylan, and Mercury. Lennon performed the lead vocals on a number of Beatles songs without McCartney, including All You Need is Love, Help, Come Together, Baby, You’re a Rich Man, I Feel Fine, Rain, Revolution, Ticket to Ride, Twist and Shout, You Can’t Do That, Real Love, and I Should Have Known Better. Lennon and McCartney also shared the lead vocals on a large collection of #1 singles.

John Lennon is not known for having a finely tuned vocal range and didn’t use a coach. He had a soothing tone and used raspy interpretations in his lyrics. Lennon had more edge to his sound than McCartney and helped make The Beatles unique. John was known for his strong emotional singing and performances. Paul McCartney is also a great singer. The pair used their strengths to produce an amazing collaboration. John Lennon was also interested in altering his recorded voice to produce new sounds.

Lennon was a musical master and capable of playing a wide range of instruments. He wasn’t as good a guitar player as George Harrison, but who is. Lennon strongly contributed to the band’s sound. Lennon was once asked if he was a great guitarist and replied: “It depends on what kind of guitarist. I’m okay, I’m not technically good, but I can make it howl and move. I was rhythm guitarist. It’s an important job. I can make a band drive.” He later said: “I’m really very embarrassed about my guitar playing, in one way, because it’s very poor. I wish I could do it like B.B. King. If you would put me with B.B. King, I would feel real silly. I’m an artist, and if you give me a tuba, I’ll bring you something out of it.”

1

Political Activism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByJ6WTZ_9O8

In the summer of 1969, at the height of the Vietnam War protest movement, John Lennon wrote and recorded a song simply titled “Give Peace a Chance.” The song became an international hit and fueled a large collection of anti-war protests in the late 1960s and early 1970s. At this time in history, John Lennon and Yoko Ono were important peace activists. They organized famous rallies and developed protest concepts such as bagism (wearing a bag) and bed peace.

The protests even caught the attention of the U.S. government and John Lennon experienced harassment from the CIA. In 1973, he was sent a deportation notice, informing Lennon that “his temporary stay in the USA was now over.” This ruling was later overturned after Richard Nixon left office. In 1976, Lennon received his “green card” certifying his permanent residency in the U.S.

On October 15, 1969, the song Give Peace a Chance was sung by 500,000 demonstrators in Washington, DC at the Vietnam Moratorium Day. The protest was led by singer Pete Seeger, who shouted phrases between the chorus such as, “Are you listening, Nixon?” and “Are you listening, Agnew?” In 1971, Lennon released the popular protest song Happy Xmas (War Is Over). In 1972, he participated in the John Sinclair Freedom Rally, which was in support of John Sinclair who was given a ten year jail sentence for the possession of two marijuana cigarettes. When you examine a list of influential protest singers, John Lennon is one of the most important.



  • Hhsssws

    Interesting to compare to the list from a few/
    days ago

    • Les2point0

      the two are completely contradictory

      • Ethan

        Still waiting for the next list “Top 10 Reasons Why John Lennon Was Just Alright”…

        • Cucuy

          Lmao. I know right

        • Dana

          Damnit, now I want them to actually make that list.

      • craierahl

        With the fourth installment being “Top Ten Misconceptions About John Lennon” and, to bring the series to a close, the fifth installment entitled “Top Ten Proof That We Actually Know Jack Sh*t About John Lennon” or, it’s alternative “Top Ten Proof that John Lennon Was From Outerspace.”

      • desikitteh

        they’re also written by different people.

    • doctorfromage

      Whether you came to either of these two lists to defend your hero, or to validate your contempt for the man, a historical figure such as Lennon requires an objective, bias free examination.

      Do not trust the rantings of an internet writer – positive or negative – to gain your facts or shape your opinions. Do your own research, from trustworthy biographies and sources, and draw your own conclusion. The man deserves that much.

      Best source? Beatles Anthology. Their story. Their words.

      • Not true. People tend to try to make themselves look better than they really are, and each member of the Beatles was perfectly capable of doing that. Neither member of the band could be considered a reliable source for the truth.

        If a guy beats his kid and is accused of doing so, of course the guy is going to deny it, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. The only way for the truth to come out is if someone sees the act happening. Same thing here.

        The best source for the truth about what kind of a person John Lennon was would have to be the people who happened to be there to witness what kind of person he was. “Their [John Lennon’s] words” aren’t going to cut it if they’re going to be used for self promotion, to make himself seem good.

        • doctorfromage

          Let me get this straight, “the best source for the truth about John Lennon … would have to be the people there to witness what kind of person he was.”

          And that doesn’t include the other three members the Beatles? The other 3 people who spent more time with him in the sixties than anyone else, and knew him since they were all teenagers? The same 3 people who are counted as reliable sources by seminal Beatles biographers such as Barry Miles, Hunter Davies, Philip Norman, and Bob Spitz?

          Yes it’s true people can make themselves look better in retrospect, but to use that as the reason to discount the first hand accounts of the other Beatles is, quite frankly, ludicrous. And contrary to your opinion they do not always tell only flattering stories about John.

          The point I was trying to make was when making up your mind about a historical figure, don’t trust internet writers for facts. Go dig out source material, whether it’s biographies or autobiographies of the subject. And yes, those books can still certainly be biased, but they are far more trustworthy than an internet writer with an agenda. Positive or negative.

        • doctorfromage

          And if you’re hung up on my suggesting the Anthology, go dig out the Spitz book, the Davies book, etc. Any one of them is more reliable that a random internet list without any sources.

          • Bones

            You mean someone might be wrong on the Interwebs????

      • james

        so the best source is to take the word of the people you want to learn about? so if i want to know about Fidel Castro, Adolf Hitler or Chairman Mao, I should just read what they said about themselves.

        • doctorfromage

          No James, the point is do not trust random internet writers for facts. I have said that several times already. But I’ll say it again just for you; do not trust random internet writers for facts.

          Regarding your counterpoint, kudos on understanding sarcasm.

          Now if you want my opinion I believe the Anthology to be the best resource out there for Beatles fans. If you don’t want to trust it because you believe an autobiography is inherently full of misrepresentation, that’s fine. You are not alone in your opinion.

          However I didn’t say it was the ONLY source. I didn’t say do not trust any other source other than, “the word of the people you want to learn about.” It’s all a balance my friend, you read through the bunch and draw your own conclusions. In fact, I listed carefully the biographies considered to be by many fans well researched. But I’ll list them again … just for you:

          The Bealtes by Bob Spitz, The Beatles by Hunter Davies, Shout by Philip Norman. And stay tuned for Mark Lewisohn’s upcoming three volume tome, surely to be the definitive account. It may even make me change my tune about the Anthology, James.

    • Listverse commentor

      Ummm… Bro I’m asian and I associate with non asians and I’m one of the coolest kids in school bro and I do have facial expressions and no I do not read minds. MIND CONTROL HASN’T BEEN DISCOVERED! Your statement dear sir is ABSURD,LOCO,CRAZY,COOKOO and I do not believe it… at all I will not spread such absurdity to the environment around me.

      • Jasmine

        “ASIANS CAN ACTUALLY READ MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

        they can hear, and see what your visually thinking

        this is the absolute complete truth

        The reason a lot of Asians have completely expressionless faces, segregate from everybody else-only associate with Asians and don’t associate with non Asians that much, and are very unfriendly in general is to avoid accidentally revealing that they can read minds. If all over a billion Asians where to show facial expressions all the time just as much as non Asians, integrate and associate with non Asians much more, and be much more friendly and talkative, then a lot of them might accidentally reveal that they can read minds by accidentally showing a facial expression or dirty look when someone thinks, or visually pictures something in their mind they don’t like, find astonishing, or funny etc because those people might see that and and really wonder what that was that just happened there and see the connection, and they might accidentally say something similar to what the person was just thinking and going to say. If they all associated with non Asians a lot more then there would be a lot more people around for them to accidentally show facial expressions when those people think things they don’t like etc, so they segregate and only associate with Asians so there won’t be anyone around for them to see that and have any accidents happen in the first place.

        Every single Asian alive is hiding their mind reading abilities, they don’t want ANYBODY to know that they can read minds, they will always deny that they can read minds, they will lie about having mind reading abilities forever!!!

        Because they value hiding their mind reading abilities more then their own lives!

        That’s why nobody knows about it!

        Try thinking, best yet visually picturing in your mind something absolutely crazy as you possibly can when you are around Asians, and try looking for Asians who give people particular looks, especially dirty looks for what appears to be for completely no reason, that is them giving people looks when they hear and visually see someone thinking something they don’t like, find astonishing, or funny etc.

        I know this may sound crazy, impossible and unbelievable, BUT IT ISN’T CRAZY WHEN ITS TRUE

        You have to spread the message!!!!!

        The world has to know about this!!!!!”

        That is the whole comment! i have seen that everywhere! just as it says in the middle paragraph Asians are trying as hard as they can to hide their mind reading abilities, what your saying in your comment is just trying to cover up that you can read minds!

        Me and so many people i know have already found out that Asians really can read minds!!! and Jeffery is one of them!

  • Sophia

    Hehe..I figured this list would show up sooner or later. Good job.

    • Annoyed

      Right! I wish they’d put these lists side by side. I really like the Beatles, but Lennon beating his wifes’ and neglecting his son is hard to cover up.

      • Rob

        Exactly. And everything else in the other, negative list points to the guy being a complete douche. The negative list was written in a far more objective tone as well. This one sounds like a fan who wanted to respond to the first list. His lyrical genius? Please. And the lyrics of “Woman” quoted to show that he was a “good man”? Stop yourself. That song sucks and those lyrics sound to me like the bleating of a man who tuned up his “Woman” and the next day is saying whatever he need to say to keep her from leaving.

        • Norkio

          Sometimes songs are just songs and not windows to the person’s soul. There is a famous bit of film in which John Lennon explains this to a deranged fan who thought Lennon was speaking to him through his songs. Lennon says “they’re just songs, man” or something along those lines. Looking for prophecy and truth in lyrics is not the smartest way to identify the writer’s true feelings. This list sounds sounds like it was written by an apologist fan. I like John, Paul, George and Ringo, for their faults as well as their positives. I also find it interesting that both lists ignored the infamous “lost weekend” of Lennon’s midlife crisis, during which time he abandoned Yoko and shacked up with an “assistant”, drank and did drugs for two years.

          • Maggot

            both lists ignored the infamous “lost weekend” of Lennon’s midlife crisis, during which time he abandoned Yoko and shacked up with an “assistant”

            He did not abandon Yoko. It was an amicable separation, and Yoko is the one who set up the ensuing 18 month relationship with May Pang. Yes, she was formerly their assistant. No derogatory inference quotes needed.

        • Murillo Viestel

          I agree.
          This list is almost saying ” You see, I’m a big fan, so I need to defend John Lennon in anyway I can. Let’s say this and that and put my opinion, not the truth.”
          Lennon was NOT pure talent.
          Lennon was a guy who became famous. Many are better than him.
          Some can sing better, some can play better, perform better and the lyrics? True is: Beatles lyrics are very simple. Some lines are beautiful but that’s it.
          If we’re talking about lyrics, he is nothing special. Just a man writing songs.

          Do I like Beatles? Yeah, but I like other bands too, obvious.
          Bu they don’t deserve to be remembered because of their lyrics.

  • Dextronaught

    I liked the other list more than this one

  • Tipple

    To me these traits could be tagged on anyones musical idol; I still feel he is a case of a good guy whose talents have been elevated and compounded over the years to something way beyond what he was. He was an idealist who was in the public eye, he’s no saint.

  • chromn3d

    which is true or shall I say has more weight? this list or the other one?!

    • gloria snockers

      I think they’re both true and both false. The truth lies between somewhere. He was first and foremost a human being. Putting any of us under the microscope and you would find any of us to be embarrassing, yet astounding.

  • 6ptb

    So, between this list and the last one about Lennon, we have established he was a human being, with good and bad qualities…..

    • Exactly. The reality is somewhere between the two lists. “A little from column A and a little from column B”.

      • bloodwts

        my favorite abe simpson quote

        • ShakaZulu

          I like his quote “I use to be with it, but then they changed what it was, and what I was with wasn’t it, and whats it, is weird and scary to me. It’ll happen to you too.

      • Coyle

        “A little from column A and a little from column B”.
        One of my favorites as well. I try to use it every day.

        I commented on the other list, and I am very glad that BJ put this one out. Lennon was a far from perfect cat, but he was a human being. And a damned fine talented musician.

    • fred

      Agreed

  • eis

    Ass kissing apologist.

    • gloria snockers

      knee jerk name caller

      • bloodwts

        adverbing adjective!

        • Mystikan

          I think you meant “intransitive verbing noun!”

          • notanerd

            nerd

  • Armin Tamzarian

    So, writing a few songs for him and trying to be a good dad for his brother is to make up for how Lennon treated his son Julian? And having a demanding career is somehow an excuse for verbally mistreating his child?

    Also, ‘bagism’ and ‘bed peace’? That’s probably the beginning of the whole “social activism without actually doing anything”-fad that is sweeping the Western world.

    • Arsnl

      “Lennon tried to make time for his son, but it was a difficult. ”

      See? He tried man. Sure he missed a few dance recitals but he always watched the videos. And he was late for a barbecue but it happens man. It’s difficult, you know. HE TRIED.

      Leave John alone!

    • JimNEPA

      John and Yoko’s “Medicine Show” did ZERO for peace, but EVERYTHING for John. (If he and others in the “Peace” movement did anything, it was to help get many, many more South Vietnamese tortured and killed as the “peace-loving” North swooped in without any Americans left to stop them.) As the band broke up, he did everything he could to upstage Paul. Result? Paul went on to fill stadiums and sell albums with Wings. John went on to satirize Paul’s sound, sell a few records in which he weeped and moaned and bitched and whined a lot (his 70’s stuff depressed the hell out of me), then dropped out and rambled around the various apartments he owned in the Dakota for the next five years in a burn-out stupor. When he came back to record one or two half-decent songs, plus crap with Yoko showing off her inability to sing, he was shot by a deranged fan/John Lennon wannabe. In the end, though, he still managed to upstage Paul: up to that night, the other big music story that year was Paul’s arrest for pot possession in Japan.

      • ..,,l,,..

        Aah, Wings, the band that the Beatles could have been!”

        • Coyle

          Now that, was funny!

          One of my good friends (who was at Woodstock, BTW) told me that one of his daughter’s friends once said something along the lines of “Yeah the Beatles. That band that Paul McCartney was in before Wings”.

          We still laugh about it.

      • Will Trame

        I wasn’t totally fond of Lennon’s post Beatles output but he had a few gems. I also liked Wings and a number of McCartney’s solo material..but face it…nothing Paul recorded with Wings or as a solo artist….would really qualify for a position on a Beatles album.

  • Will Trame

    I’ve expected a rebuke to the earlier list about John Lennon. Good job, Bryan, in presenting the other side of the coin. Sure, Lennon had his demons but the previous list apparently did drill some nerves as I have noted it generated an incredible number of comments (479 as of early May 20).

    As an addendum to number 10..bringing people together…I might add that Beatlemania, which spearheaded the British Invasion in early 1964, helped to bring America out of the gloom caused by the JFK assassination a few months earlier.

  • —–

    Number 8 Women- He wrote several songs about women but that does not mean he wasn’t an abusive spouse.
    If you’ve ever met a man who beats his wife one things you’ll realise is they are always “sorry” and “love” their wife so much.

  • bears

    haha i’m glad this list was made!

  • Neil

    Lolz!pathetic!XD

  • Joe

    He was a rich communist.

    • JImNEPA

      Alternate Universe News: “Former Beatle John Lennon, 71, joined Occupy Wall Street today, singing his new song, ‘F**k the 1%’, now available on iTunes. He then boarded his private 757 jet and flew off to his private Greek island, formerly known as Crete, which Lennon acquired earlier this year at the bargain price of US $1 billion.”

      • fendabenda

        Elvis Presley, who has been living on planet Mars since 1977, joined Lennon on his 757 jet. Both men were tragically eaten by women on the Greek island of Lesbos, on which the private jet accidentally landed.

        • Heidi

          HA-HA-HA :)

        • JimNEPA

          Not to be upstaged again, Paul McCartney promptly married an 18 year old quadriplegic gold digger, then promptly divorced her with a US $10 billion settlement. When asked why, Sir Paul replied, “Because her parents wouldn’t let her marry when she was 17.”

  • chutz

    Faith in John Lennon restored! :D

  • ThatBoyIsGone

    Someone has a bad case of ‘butt-hurt’.

    Treatment: stop being such a pussy.

  • robertjohnjimmyjohn

    i’m so over the beatles!

  • Nick

    Your like is bad and you should few bad.

    • JDCarna

      what? learn english before trying to write

  • Kal

    this list counters the arguments made in the other list. ergo, one of these lists is wrong. i like my lists to be factual

  • Nice interpretation of his works. Still cannot forget the previous list.

  • avenger280

    John Lennon was by no means a perfect person. ALL of us have failings and imperfections. He was not ideal by any means, HOWEVER (given his circumstances) John did the best he humanly knew how.

    • avenger280

      BTW….. I know better than to trust ANYTHING written by Albert Goldman

    • Arsnl

      “John Lennon was by no means a perfect person. ALL of us have failings and imperfections.”
      Learn to make a distinction between the artist and the human being. As an artist he was amazing. As a human being I wouldn’t like to hang out with him. Being a wife beater has no effect on his music. And making amazing music doesnt make his actions suddenly amazing, acceptable or excusable. Everybody has faults but few commit crimes and wife beating is a punishable crime

      • vulnerablebrena

        Well said ;)

      • K

        Here’s the problem with the “love the art, hate the guy” thing – as consumers, we really don’t have many options to express our approval/disapproval. Mostly, we get to do it with our wallet, because walking up and slapping a guy gets you arrested. So when someone (be it Lennon, be it Mel Gibson, etc) gets presented in an unpalatable way, that is how we get to tell them “hey, buddy, not cool.” And the other list… not cool. So, was he a good musician? Sure. As you said, does that excuse monumental moments of bad behavior. No. Of course not. And lists like this – pure apologist nonsense – don’t help either.

      • Danaya

        Who chose such a comparison? You or your tehcaer? I don’t think they have all that much in common.They were both Englishmen, both in the field of writing and performing, although Shakespeare had others do the performing for him, and both are respected as the best in their fields.

  • Darren M

    “John Lennon is one of the most influential people in history” Yes, the name John Lennon belongs amongst those of Caesar, Jesus Christ*, Charlemagne, Genghis Khan, George Washington, Martin Luther King, etc.

    *historicity not guaranteed

    • avenger280

      Actually…. when considering influential personalities of the 20th century, Lennon DOES belong alongside Martin Luther King, Margaret Sanger, and Harvey Milk.

      • Arsnl

        “Martin Luther King, Margaret Sanger”
        Hehe. Putting a guy who fought racism right next a racist and a supporter of eugenics. Great job man.

        • avenger280

          King, Sanger and Milk fought tooth and nail to secure equal rights for blacks, women and gays. Despite their failings, they still deserve respect. They damn sure probably did more than you ever have!

        • mom424

          If you actually read Sanger’s work you would realize that she was neither – she was horrified by the plight of the poor and realized that the answer to their troubles was birth control. Birth control and decreased infant mortality. And guess what? She was right – it’s been proven again and again; educate the women, allow them reproductive freedom, and the standard of living increases for everyone. True fact.

          • Ben

            Her distress at the tribulations of the poor doesn’t absolve her notions pertaining to immigration policies and the ‘purification’ of the human race. She sought to segregate or steralise the disabled, and considered the lighter skin ethnicities as being superior. She clearly was an advocate of eugenics and the very definition of racist.

    • Iamnotfirst

      There’s more historical evidence for Jesus than there is for Wayne Newton (may be exaggerated). For evidence of Jesus outside the Bible, you only have to look at the writings of Josephus, Pliny the younger and Tacitus to name a few. And if that doesn’t do it for you, look at the writings of Polycarp, Clement or Iraneus. Try verifying your facts before spouting off phrases you heard someone else say next time.

      • Ben

        I wouldn’t open a kettle of fish for those that take every moment to argue and agitate.

      • souljacker

        if you want evidence for jesus then google ‘poem of the man god’ I’m not religious and don’t believe in god, but I found it very compelling.

    • Ben

      Your only intention in posting was to make your trite and petty remark about Jesus.

      • Darren M

        Nope, just trying to avoid a bunch of replies debating this point. I made a point of stating it in a way that did not exclude beliefs either way.

        • ralph

          Then why even make the validity of Jesus something questionable? You could have just excluded him from the list.

          • Darren M

            Because He’s highly admired? Kinda the theme I was going for there.

    • fred

      He was a musician. his name does not belong beside names of people like MLK, Ghandi, Milk. These people lived and died for causes not tied to riches and fame. A great writer yes. Not really a great instrumentalist, but Hell he was in the Beatles. His name belongs besides those like Presely, Louis Armstrong, Miles Davis, Jimi Hendrix. Everything he did was motivated by his want to be in the public eye and be a part of pop culture. He’s not like a Muhammad Ali who gave up his title and was destroyed by the media for a far greater cause. Those people man sacrifices, he didn’t sacrifice shit.

      • fendabenda

        Well, he was killed, so he basically sacrificed his life. Although he didn’t do it on purpose, but if he wasn’t famous, nobody would have bothered to shoot him. Probably.

  • The single least well-researched, poorly thought-out, frankly embarrassing list ever. Anyone who knows anything about the Beatles would cringe at this.

    • Jam

      Amen!

    • fred

      So agree. Threw up in my on mouth 11 times, the first being when I first saw the list.

    • Sean

      Are you saying that the negative list about Lennon was actually well-researched and thought-out??

      • fred

        Yes

      • Nope, but it makes this list pale by comparison.

    • doctorfromage

      I know the Beatles music/ history very well and didn’t cringe. It’s a list, on a website, about a popular and influential musician. That’s all. If that makes your blood boil might I suggest therapy?

      • It ignores much. The act of constructing an alternate reality to contradict another is the Freudian nightmare.

  • JungleBean

    I have neither sympathy nor admiration for this man.

  • Omfg

    This list,is stupid….lennon was a dick…so why cover it up….really have u heard the beatles songs …they r lame !!!! Gj previous list….i hate “beatles ” stupid name..

    • ParusMajor

      Where did you go to school, the rap academy of Vanilla Ice? Well, you cannot even spell, so your opinion about the Beatles is irrelevant.

    • Sean

      Wow are you an imbecile.

      • ParusMajor

        ?? ???

  • ugh

    paul mccartney is kinda cute, but john lennon is waaayyy hotter..

    • ThatGuy

      I hope you’re female, otherwise your comment is disturbing

      • Drac

        HOMOPHOBIC MUCH?????

        • ThatGuy

          Yes, I’m That Guy who’s homophobic. My musical taste is weird for a heteroseksual man (I like Boney M, Abba, Village People and Bee Gees), so I don’t need any ho mo references, I get that often enough. I am a hetero man who likes Donna Summer (r.i.p)

  • Um

    This just seems like a poorly thought out counter argument to the list a few days ago. Would’ve been much better if you chose actual reasons to admire Lennon than just taking reasons to not admire him from another list and turning them around.

    • fendabenda

      Exactly what I was thinking. The other list seemed a bit too hateful, but this one is a bit too positive about Lennon. We will probably never know the whole truth about the guy, but maybe it’s somewhere in between.

  • mom424

    We’ve gone from hater (and it was, gave no credit to the fact that the man had grown up and changed over time) to a fan boy. This one is a little heavy on the adulation – but I still prefer it. We really don’t need to know that he picked his nose and scratched his a s s, now do we?

    • fendabenda

      Well… if he didn’t pick his nose or scratch his a s s, that would be news, because everybody does that. Except Marilyn Monroe, she didn’t… because she was perfect… :D

  • david

    “John Lennon is one of the most influential people in history.”

    That’s where I stopped reading, because it’s obvious the author is either a spoof or a moron. Either way, the rest is a waste.

    • fendabenda

      You shouldn’t stop reading if you run into a sentence that you don’t agree with. That’s just ignorant. The importance of influential people (or which people are infuential) has changed drastically since the 1900’s. Nowadays you can call someone like Madonna or Lady Gaga influential people, because they actually are; everybody knows them. Do you remember who just recently won the presidential election in France? No? My point exactly.

      • vulnerablebrena

        Francois Hollande

        What you just pointed out is the importance of influential people has dramatically declined to SOME people. What I find astounding, is some people consider Lady Gaga (seriously?) influential, yet they don’t understand why so many problems in the US, and other parts of the world, are not solved.

        • Ben

          Lady Gaga is influential in that her clothing decisions influence others to be more reserved in their choice of garment, less they look insane; similar to how the installation of a railroad crossing prevents subsequent train-wrecks. She also teaches us to value the gift of sanity.

        • fendabenda

          I guess it depends on who people see every day on tv or internet. Times they are a-changing; think 2002 (only 10 years ago). Did most people have an iPhone or a similar device on them at all times? No. Did people get connected on Facebook? No. Did Lady Gaga suck already? Yes. (that’s actually irrelevant and only my opinion, but I just wanted to say that.)

          I think maybe one of the most influential people of the last decade was Colonel Tom Parker (manager of Elvis Presley). Douchebag, yes, but influetial.

          • fendabenda

            I meant century (20th)

  • Angus McFangus

    One overly negative list and one overly positive list don’t balance each other out; they just show that idiots are allowed to contribute

    • fendabenda

      True. It would be nice to see an impartial article about John Lennon.

      • Spiff17

        Or better yet how about no more lists about Lennon? I’m a little Lennon-ed out personally. This list was like reading a child’s essay on their favorite celebrity. The last one was full of sensationalism but at least had some meat and controversy to it.

        • Spiff17

          I feel my previous comment was a little overly harsh. The author did compile a nice list of some of Lennon’s finer qualities, as the title suggested. I guess we just all knew it was coming and both lists feel very opinion based. But nobody said you weren’t allowed to write about your opinions.

      • Brad

        Anyone’s best bet is to read an impartial biography about Lennon or The Beatles and not a list on Listverse.

  • GrammerNazi

    #7 Gives him a good reason to beat women later on in his life. They were the cause of his horrible childhood and he needed to take out his aggressions, and it wouldn’t be fair punching men for something women did. Time for payback and they had it coming. They wanted equal rights, well he gave it to them right in the kisser.

    • Ben

      Fair enough.

  • JDCarna

    “Top Ten Reasons Bryan Johnson Would Let John Lennon Bust His Butt Cherry”

    • BryanJ

      A bit harsh. You clearly have some issues in that area.

  • Sorcha

    Me too, this is far more general and opinion-driven than the last one.

    For example, the ‘lyrical poet’ one… although a big Beatles fan, I tend to agree with the last list about Lennon and the Beatles’ often simple or simply nonsense lyrics being over-rated and held up as something more than what they were. Let’s face it, Lennon was no Van Morrison, Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen.

    Also, the entries about his treatment of women and his treatment of Julian are far too vague and defensive. They don’t really offer evidence to contradict what the last list says, just soothes over it by throwing in some lyrics and a comment by Julian referring to Paul with no mention of John whatsoever.

    The ‘political activist’ entry is a joke, and the last list explained why this is the case.

    Lastly, several of the entries on this list felt like padding- the ‘lyrical poet’, ‘pure talent’ and ‘group innovation’ ones should haave been combined into the one. It almost seemed like the writer was struggling to fill the list.

    I though that the last list was far more concise, well-written and most admirably, brave.

    • doctorfromage

      The last list well written? Seriously? At least this list didn’t try to pass off opinions as “facts”. This list is called “Reasons to Admire,” and while I agree it is positively biased, the author clearly indicates their desire to present a positive perspective. They admit they are purposefully biased.

      The other list tries to present itself as some sort of impartial fact dispenser. Do yourself a favor and go back and read the “10 Unpleasant Facts” list again. How many “facts” did you find? How many sources were quoted?

      Anyone who really cares to know the truth should ditch BOTH lists and read/ watch “The Beatles Anthology”, the Hunter Davies biography (he actually traveled with the band), and the most recent biography by Bob Spitz. They at least had the benefit or research and, you know, sources.

      • Sorcha

        By saying the last list was more ‘well written’ I mean that this one just doesn’t read as well, irrespective of the content. Even if you disagree with what was said in the last list, the overall tone and language was more polished and ‘professional’. This list is just embarrassing to read, it sounds like it was written by a fawning, blinkered fan.

  • why???

    Seriously?! I’m really disappointed in listverse for this. How could they even let this garbage be posted?!? Especially after the last list, that said literally the EXACT OPPOSITE, not too long ago! This is a pure opinion list that makes this site look bad by contradicting it’s self. C’mon you can do better than this.

    • ParusMajor

      Well, like they say: opinions are like a s s ho l e s, everybody wants some.

      • fendabenda

        Noo, actually not everyone wants that… which reminds me: while I was passed out in 2006 and you were there along with some musicians from Impaled Nazarene. Why did I wake up with that cucumber in my a s s ? What did you actually do to me?

        • ParusMajor

          *whistles* I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. None whatsoever. :D I thought you were going to complain about that chili that was up your nose. :D

          • fendabenda

            Not at all, that chili that you guys put up my nose might have actually cured my beginning flu. BTW, I took that cucumber out of my a s s , washed it and put it back in the fridge. Did you guys eat it?

          • ImpaledNazarene

            Please fenda, tell me you didn’t do that. My girlfriend made some nice Greek salad the next morning, with tomatoes olives, feta cheese… and… cucumber…

  • lawn

    The real truth lies somewhere between the two Lennon lists. Your very first sentence, though, is a real stretch by any standard, whether you love him or not.

  • Pt2

    So this is what Listverse has become? Endless rehashes or rebuttals to existing lists? How pathetic.

  • BryanJ

    I felt that John Lennon deserved a rebuttal to the last article, which was 100% false in areas. I focused on turning the issues on the entries. One of the great things about ListVerse is that they will allow authors to present both sides of an issue. The website is not biased.

    • Maggot

      It’s a good list, Bryan, rebuttal or no. Sure the word “admire” in the title here is being seen by many as fawning, but I believe that’s mostly because your list came after the first list. But I don’t think this one is quite as one-sided as the overtly negative one, as you still touch on some of the negatives here, if only to set the stage for later positive developments, growth, and achievements.

      Yeah being a huge Beatles and Lennon fan, I freely admit my own bias here, but at the end of the day, my adulation is still borne of the music itself and my appreciation for the historical significance of their contribution to, and influence upon, popular/rock music during its still formative years. These other side issues, Lennon’s politics, personality, relationships, etc., whether spun pro or con, can be fun research for their veracity (and some good recommended reading has been mentioned by others here), and to talk about and debate endlessly, but really they have no bearing for me on what music I find enjoyable to listen to. And while musical enjoyment is of course a subjective and personal thing, what is NOT is the recognition of their positive place historically. There is no denying that, no matter how hard a nay-sayer may wish to try. Yer Blues, baby…

      • fendabenda

        A musician doesn’t have to be perfect in his personal life to make excellent music. Ike Turner was reportedly an abusive wife-beater. Phil Spector killed someone. Larry Williams was a pimp. Their music is still great.

  • I’m so glad you posted this from the last John Lennon list. I am a huge admirer of John Lennon, not just his music but his character and diligence, the bravity for standing up to the U.S. Government. Now-a-days celebrities are too vain for popularity to even think about doing something like that – in other words, they don’t have the gonads. I raised my children on John Lennon and hope they keep the legend alive with their children and so forth. Thank you for posting this, it made my day.

  • Cfolsom1

    Im glad someone stuck up for him but both lists equally have a lot of personal beliefs. All anyone can really say is the Beatles had and still have an enormous impact on music in the relatively short time they were together. We will never know anything that was going on because all sides had their own story. Hopefully we can look past everything and enjoy the wonderful music they all produced.

  • fred

    The best thing Lennon did was get shot. If not for his tragic death, he would had just faded to the background of pop culture. I.e. Ringo, he wasn’t the writer Dylan was, didn’t have the musical ability Paul had. He was the IC Chavez of his boy band. (That was kinda harsh) what I’m trying to say is that he is idolized because of his death. If not for that he would had burnt out. I’m not a Lennon hater, I’m a huge fan. Shit my fb profile pic is a picture of Him.

  • vmarie

    We’ve established he was a human being…just like everyone else. Let’s destroy pedestals!

  • BMoore

    Squash that hate!

  • karvin

    why are you contradicting your other list, got too many bad replies ?

  • Tryclyde

    Bravo, Bryan Johnson. This list gives good reasons to admire Lennon, but doesn’t say that everything is a fact which inarguably proves he was a perfect human being. The last list took isolated events and attributed them to his entire personality. Good job.

  • Eleanor Rigby.

    So, after two lists we can come to the conclusion that: JOHN LENNON IS THE PERSON THAT PEOPLE HAVE KNOWN HIM TO BE FOR OVER 40 YEARS. Nobody has learned anything new; people who love The Beatles’ music will continue to; those who don’t will listen to their favorite music; only those with weak minds have had their beliefs or opinions changed….Can we get a list about creepy places again now???

  • gilbertdc

    I feel like this list is very biased, and has a less factual tone than the opposing one. It also makes alot of generalizations. I think both of the listsare wrong. Like people are saying, yes, he did alot of good. But he’s human. People too often put him on a pedestal, with this god like view. But he also did alot of wrong things, like the person who made this list, and everyone who is commenting on it.

  • Kharli

    I was disappointed by the first list about John Lennon. Not because he had bad traits (like any human), or that some of the info was grossly exaggerated or simply false. My sadness was because we should not speak ill of the dead. Especially one who did so much for broadening people’s minds on life, spirituality, equality, sexuality, and art.
    Having said that, we should all remember that idolizing anything, human or not, is wrong. It is unfair to ourselves, as it stunts our objectivity, and is often unfair to the object of our idolatry.
    He was an abandoned child, therefore a wounded, insecure man, husband & father. He was a gifted artist & speaker, therefore he had larger ego issues than the average Joe.
    Thanks for both lists, though, I dig both sides to any story!

  • catie

    I’m sure someone has already stated this but…the grammar is pretty terrible. For example:”he loved woman”.

  • D-rock

    Wow. The author is totally butthurt for sure, lol. This is a very very bad list though, seriously. I know this site can do better than this pile.

  • Theresa

    I am a HUGE Beatles Fan, and also a Huge Hippie, as well as a 60’s/70’s music and culture fanatic. John Lennon was NOT a good person, nor was he peaceful in any way, or as Holden Caulfield would put it he was a God Damn Phony!

  • Senor_Shutter

    I think the writer of this list is under the spell of “The Halo Effect”.

    Top 10 Common Faults In Human Thought
    https://listverse.com/2010/01/07/top-10-common-faults-in-human-thought/

  • doctorfromage

    If you are a fan of the Beatles and/ or John, do yourself a favor and ditch BOTH of these biased, opinion filled lists.

    For a more detailed and factual account of John and The Beatles’ history, read or watch “The Beatles Anthology” (the band tells their own story), the Hunter Davies biography of The Beatles (he actually traveled with the band), and the most recent biography by Bob Spitz. They at least had the benefit or research and, you know, sources.

  • joris

    thank god for this list!.only thing missing is the quote:life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans.gotta love lennon!

  • act

    I don’t think those are valid reasons to admire Lennon or anybody.

    • Sister Morphine

      they all seemed like fluff

  • Prof. Rodriguez

    He beat his wifes, enough said.

  • Paul

    The first list was better. Frick John Lennon!

  • sjintexas

    I think if Lennon were alive today. He would be the most admired person and followed person on Twitter. .He was an amazing individual and one of my personal Idols. I find it amusing that there is a list that is not in favor of Lennon and now all the sudden there is one in Favor.. make up your mind or just leave the Lennon’s persona alone.

    There are those of us who will admire him always and we know he had faults as we all do. Lennon is and always will be an Icon of peace , love and music.

    I “Imagine” all the time..

    xoxo John.

    Stephie J.B

  • tit

    You can’t say anything about John Lennon because i really doubt any of you know him personally…

    • Will Trame

      You’re correct. We can only judge by history and the impact Lennon made on 20th century music. There are two sides to every person and I like the fact that Listverse presented both sides of the story, even though both are controversial and are spurring rather venomous comments. As Pappy Boyington once said, “name me a hero…and I’ll prove he’s a bum”. Interesting dichotomy.

      Nobody told me there’d be days like these..strange days indeed…

      • Maggot

        Nobody told me there’d be days like these..strange days indeed…

        Well we all shine on. Like the moon and the stars and the sun…

  • Hookah

    OMFG jawn lenonz totes inventedd “free thought” ummmm.. No hes a hypocrite and he died because of it DWI

  • Ted Nyugent

    Although he was a great songwriter John Lennon had struggles with marijuana. This is why he was going to be deported. The marijuana gives people notions of “no war, equality peace etc”. If they would lock people up for marijuana maybe those people occupying wall street would be locked up instead of crying about “rights” (lol) and crapping in a tent.
    oh my love is a great song

  • Wha?

    This list doesn’t change the fact that Lennon was a pretentious D-Bag.

  • Lmao niiiice response to “top ten unpleasant facts about john Lennon” haha! Both where great!

  • Trfic

    Here is an alternate list:

    7. He was a genius

    6. He was sensitive as shit and threw up before going on stage

    5. He was the walrus

    4. He could make a guitar speak

    3. He resented performing for you fuckers

    2. He was bigger then Jesus

    1. Those glasses

    • ParusMajor

      7. No, Stephen Hawking is a genius, Lennon was just a rock musician
      6. Maybe (where did you hear this factoid?)
      5. No, I am the walrus. No, wait, I thought Paul was the Walrus?
      4. No, that was actually George Harrison.
      3. Maybe
      2. Learn to spell. “Then” isn’t the same as “than”.
      1. Cool specs, true.

      • Trfic

        Number 2 through 7 are all lyrics from a spoof song about Lennon called Genius is Pain.

  • Ivannia

    I have no opinion whatsoever on the Beatles or Lennon; they’re good musicians and that’s it, you know? I know hardly anything about Lennon as a person or any shitty things he might’ve done in his lifetime etc etc, so therefore I don’t judge him. Still this list strikes me as incredibly bad, like embarrassingly bad – if the first list consisted of a few facts mixed with mostly opinions this list was just the unfiltered, adoring and childish rants of a fanboy. I thought the first list was kind of dumb but at least the first couple of statements were based on fact; Lennon DID beat his wives, and he was indeed a terrible father who took too much drugs to be truly present in his child’s life. Some quick googling could’ve confirmed this, and even though I understand the authors knee-jerk reaction to defend his idol, nothing he said in this article changes the fact that these things did happen. Like, he wrote “Woman” so therefore he loved women? Geez, Tupac wrote “Changes” still he started a goddamn gangwar between himself and Biggies crew; Bob Dylan wrote some of the most politically charged songs during the 60’s, yet he refused to participate in anything that had to do with politics – what the fuck does it matter what Lennon wrote when he obviously didn’t live by it? Sure we can appreciate his words and apply them to our own lives, but hold Lennon to them? The entire article; it’s all just hyperbole, it’s ludicrous.

    Whatever man I don’t even care that much; guess I just wanted to say that sure the first list was kinda stupid but this one somehow managed to be even more dumb. Cheers!

  • Hhh

    Uh

    • GovernmentOfNigeria

      You have just won the $1000 prize for the most intelligent Interwebs comment of the day. The cheque will be delivered to you by the Princess of Nigeria ASAP.

      • Zenyatta Mondatta

        British or Canadian?

  • coco nest

    why do you always talk about him the guy is boring and his music is old who cares find something else to write about

    • LudwigVanBeethoven

      “his music is old”

      Oh, great commentary. I guess you’re a Kanye West fan? FYI: all the best music is old. That’s because bad music doesn’t survive.

  • suggs

    bit weird after the list last week pointing out why he shouldnt be admired???

  • The former list on Lennon was more entertaining. Personally, I prefer Slayer.

    • ParusMajor

      I like Slayer, too, but I don’t hate the Beatles.

  • Fuck_Lennon

    In the end Lennon is just a wife-beating pussy. Had he not been lucky enough to be singing during an era of war he wouldn’t be nearly as famous. Besides the fact that his time was that of the hippies (who gobble up peace like the stoned faggots they are), everyone liked to hear something that WASN’T threatening back then. And then he had another stroke of luck by being in the Beatles. If he tried that shit in today’s world his rather poor performance skills would be overshadowed by a hefty jail sentence.

  • Sarah

    Firstly, I have no particular feelings on John Lennon, I don’t hate or love him, or even like or dislike him. But this list reads as being a lot less objective than the other, it reads more like someone who loves John Lennon and was annoyed by the other list criticizing his hero. The other reads more like a representation of facts, so I’m more inclined to believe it. If the writer of this list had maybe written solid facts, instead of saying pointless things like “he tried” and that “he was a good man” simply for writing a song, then maybe I’d be more inclined to believe this list.

  • Well, this certainly is the complete opposite from the list of the other day! I’d say the truth is somewhere in between. I loved John Lennon and he was one of my musical heroes. Doesn’t mean he as perfect by any means, though.

    • fendabenda

      There’s no such thing as a “musical hero”… except maybe Bach or Mozart or maybe Elvis. As for Lennon? Definitely not. Lennon was just a copycat. Ask Chuck Berry.

      • Everyone has their own opinion on this. You choose your heroes and I’ll choose mine. ? Thanks for reply.

        • fendabenda

          I didn’t mean to hurt you.

          I’m sorry if I made you cry.

          I never meant to hurt you.

          I’m just a jealous guy.

          • Hahaha! Cute. Thanks for the laugh. ?

  • LuvsHorror

    I like the music. Never met the guy. Don’t know if I’d have liked him or not.

  • lavendR23

    as for the “wife batterer” accusation, I don’t agree with it. He possibly assaulted her- I can see him doing that. But batterers use assault all the time- it is their primary coping mechanism. Was it right for him to do that –no. but I think John’s weapon of choice was his mouth and he could and did do enough damage with that when he was feeling vicious. but we all do that.
    I do think that he changed by the end of his life though. He was human and a lot better than most men out there for sure (I have no illusions about his faults)

  • Lifeschool

    I wanted to like this more than the other list we saw last week, but this is just as biased and filled with full-fat cheese. I agree with some of the other commenters. Lennon was a ‘good’ all round song writer, musician and spokesman. He had mad ideas and went off on crazy tangents; which folks were keen to lap up. He said some profound words, having been well read in certain subjects, but he was Mr. Lanky Lennon from Liverpool to all his oldest friends and family. I’m sure he would have loved to come home and live in Liverpool if it wasn’t for the legions of mindless fanatics hounding his every move. Ok, so he was a working class hero who made it big. So what? Didn’t he deserve it? I think he did.

    Besides, a million other men have been caught hitting people and wives and kids, (Dennis Waterman, The Hoff, Richard Burton, Richard Harris) and yet non of those guys are known as wife-beaters. Micheal Jackson did far worse to kids, but he’s the King of POP! – “Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see….it doesn’t matter much to me.”

  • Srt234

    John Lennon had very little talent. Not one of his “influential” messages were original or noteworthy. Nothing he sad or did was of consequence.

    • srt234

      said

  • Vaami

    Written by a Lennon fan that got his feelings hurt by the last list. I really don’t care about Lennon, like his stuff but I bet he was just a pompous jerk anyway. Honestly, this was kind of a lame list.

  • P5ychoRaz

    Ha!

  • Collin

    Number one should be: He Wrote Across the Universe. Enough said.

  • j

    in his childhood lennon didnt know that his true mother is his sister. I think the list few days ago was a lot credible and in depth rather than this one. every statement lacks proof. Im not saying that lennon is undesirable but based on the testimony from the women associated to him, he bit them, also being famous is not a hindrance to be a good father.

  • guzilla

    This reads like it was written as a middle school book report. Copied and pasted from wikipedia, not much thought to it.

  • sophie

    wasn’t there a list not that long ago giving every reason as to why you should NOT look up to lennon… idgi

    • Sister Morphine

      you must be new

  • Jake

    he knocked her head against a wall, but its okay because he loved her deeply?

  • Lennonmehjj

    I think this is BS and that john lennon as every other human being had lots of errors and flaws, but hitting a woman and being a douchebag with his son is TOTALLY INACEPTABLE. Lennon you were a real hippocrite

  • Cali

    This would have been better if it were a rebuttle to the previous article, and not just a thinly vailed attack on the other author.

  • truth.

    i believe the first list rather that this one. lennon was an ass. good riddance…

  • Oh shit not my e-mail will be clogged with comments but I just had to give my support to Lennon

  • Bullcrap

    Complete hogwash, you should change the title to “Top 10 Reasons to Admire George Harrison.”

  • Steph

    This list is so vague and abstract. John Lennon was a selfish charismatic man who didn’t actually DO much of anything for anyone. He instilled a sense of unity and peace amongst people who at that time clung to him as a symbol. I’ve followed The Beatles for quite some time and adore the band as a whole, but I think it speaks values about John when the people who were closest to him have either nothing to say or nothing particularly positive, an example being his own son, Julian Lennon.

  • Pauly

    Thank you for a list that put John Lennon in a positive light. I was scared for a while that we were going to have a list titled “Ten reasons why Hitler wasn’t such a bad guy”.

  • The writer of this list doesn’t exactly cover specifics about Lennon other than his public lifestyle. He speaks of Lennon’s music and not who he was asa person. To say Lennon loved women but did have at least one incident where he slammed his wife’s head into a wall (I mean it was only once and supposedly the woman he loved right?) while ignoring the other multiple incidents involving physical abuse twoard women is disingenious at least.

    To say it wasn’t his fault because he had a hard childhood and, well, he was busy Julian. Get over it. So that makes it ok. Then cites how in 2011 Julian and McCartney had problems 31 years after Lennon’s death. And then to say, well in 1975 he had another child and for those five years he was the best dad ever! No mention of his relationship at that time with Julian btw.

    I used to absolutely love “Imagine” because I thought the sound and vocals were so great … then I became an adult and realized that the song makes no sense coming froma man he was all about possessions and wealth.

    To say Lennon moved away from material things and went completely into the spiritual life means he had to work for a living like everyone else and got a small home in a suburban neighborhood right? No, he had more than enough money (good for him) to live a life of his choosing and had whatever he wanted on a whim.

    To say because you like his music and are on the same side of the political fence as he does not make everything he was as a person completely fine and needed to be “understood”. I do not believe in everything the other list said (about 5/10) but this one is just making excuses about why it was ok for Lennon to be a less than even decent person in parts of his life.

    But hey he wrote a song about something so of course he is a great guy ….

  • Bob

    I’m surprised you managed to write a list with your head so far up John lennons arse

  • susy

    and “10 things you dont know about john lennon”? thats weird

  • Alex

    Who is John Lennon? No I’m kidding, but just to add my opinion. I’ve never really listened to the beatles, but both of the lists about John Lennon have taught me a thing or two. Surely that makes them both worth while. Lets all just take the best of both lists, discard the rest and stop arguing about someone none of us knew.

  • Sarah

    I know people are arguing about him but I really do think he’s a pretty awesome guy.
    “Let It Be!”

  • souljacker

    I’m not sure I find much here ‘admirable’. I cannot agree that Lennon, or indeed the Beatles as a group were fantastic, innovative musicians/songwriters, and I rather despair of the legacy of influence they have left in the industry.

    I feel that most of the things this athour says I should admire Lennon are actuallythings I should admire about his fans and facets of the era in general. It is admirable that people strove for a society of peace and love, and spoke out against war. I feel that Lennon was a symptom of his time, not an instigator.of change.

    • lostsok

      Denying that the Beatles were innovative is an epic fail. While Dylan, and his influence ON the Beatles, was equally laudable, trying to write off the Beatles would be like saying Beethoven was insignificant, or Einstein irrelevant.

      It’s fine to not LIKE the Beatles. But to deny their importance is just…dumb.

  • lostsok

    Nice list. A fine anecdote to the hack job from two weeks ago. Bravo!

  • Elmorris

    The previous list about Lennon was more objective because it was based on what Lennon did. This list is more subjective because it’s based on what the writer thinks about Lennon.

  • Rafael

    Both posts are interesting. Just proof that he was only human. But many take his celebrity and music as a disguised golden calf . Sure, he’s interesting and talented, but he’s not God for crying out loud.

  • shellor

    This seems more like a pissing contest between the two list writers.

    OBJECTIVE AND INTERESTING LISTS, PLEASE

  • mssully

    Aye, well then..
    He was in movie called “How I Saved the War”.
    Found in humor section.
    :o)

  • Who care’s what type of person he was when he was alive, let alone a teenager. All we have left is the music, so let’s enjoy it, that is if you’re a fan. If not, why waste your time? The only people who know the truth are the ones directly involved and Lennon. I don’t foresee Lennon making a statement anytime soon. But just like the other list, this list isn’t based off any real facts either. I’m sure a lot of the people I idolize aren’t what they truly appear to be.

    I’m a huge Bob Marley fan and he has several children, some he didn’t claim, with several different women but that doesn’t change my opinion about his music or the legacy he tried to leave behind. Nobody appears to be what they really are, so why anybody becomes shocked when they learn otherwise is beyond me.

  • cndybizzle09

    The other list was more convincing and written better. Interesting someone was offended enough to write a rebuttal.

  • zeppelin

    both lists sucked end of f discussion!