Though only a stone’s-throw away across the grand Atlantic, Europeans and Americans are as different as night and day. And being anywhere from 5 to 7 hours difference in time, they literally are, too. Back in the days of old when that rag-tag batch of ticked-off Englishmen decided to brave the snarling sea and make new their lives in America, we’ve held similarities close to our hearts. However, times force great changes and leaps in advancement force gaps in our likenesses and make them far more diverse and different. Gone are the days when the ‘New’ Americans would take tea time, instead, we, as Americans, stumbled upon the idea of lunch… similar, but still, quite different. Well, you get the idea. Here are ten (of many, as we all know) ways we, as Americans, are different from our jovial brethren across the pond: the Europeans.
10. Government
Our Governments could not be any more unalike if we purposely attempted to create them so. And, as it turns out, we (the US) kind of did. Not happy with the persecution the European Government was dishing out to specific religious groups, the original Pilgrims who ended up on American shores would eventually go on to pass down ideas for a new government in their new land – despite the fact that they persecuted people in equally (if not worse) ways than the nations they left behind. Here are the governmental differences spelled out as clearly as possible:
Europe: The European Parliament (Europarl or EP) is the directly elected parliamentary body of the European Union (EU). Together with the Council of the European Union (the Council), it forms the bicameral legislative branch of the Union’s institutions and has been described as one of the most powerful legislatures in the world. The Parliament and Council form the highest legislative body within the Union. However their powers as such are limited to the competencies conferred upon the European Community by member states. Hence the institution has little control over policy areas held by the states and within the other two of the three pillars of the European Union. The Parliament is composed of 785 MEPs (Member of the European Parliament) who serve the second largest democratic electorate in the world (after India) and the largest trans-national democratic electorate in the world (492 million).
America: The federal government of the United States is the United States governmental body that carries out the roles assigned to the federation of individual states established by the Constitution. The federal government has three branches: the executive, legislative, and judicial. Through a system of separation of powers or “checks and balances,” each of these branches has some authority to act on its own, some authority to regulate the other two branches, and has some of its own authority, in turn, regulated by the other branches. In addition, the powers of the federal government as a whole are limited by the Constitution, which leaves a great deal of authority to the individual states. The federal government is based in the federal district of Washington, D.C. and is often referred to as “Washington”.
9. Television
While Americans enjoy a mind-numbingly huge array of television stations via satellite or cable, Europe (though able to acquire said choices) also has a slew of nationally funded channels that offer them different types of programming (and in the case of the BBC in Britain, free of advertising). Since about 2000, both continents offer roughly the same when it comes to cable, satellite, and the offers of broadband with phone service and TV. The BBC and ITV are due to launch Freesat, which, unlike Freesat from Sky, will be a free-to-air system similar to Freeview. Europe, of course, features comedies and dramas specifically catered to its core audience, such as Dr. Who and the original Office. We here in American television companies have been know to pilfer European (usually English) programming which then needs modification to make it more appealing to US viewers. In some cases these American spin offs have become more popular than the originals. Two in particular that spring to mind are The Office, and Three’s Company.
8. Meal Times and Etiquette
Europeans are more likely to be found eating as a family around the dinner table than many Americans who prefer the convenience of eating in front of the television. As a result, fast food chains are not as popular in placed like France and Italy as they are stateside. This, however, is not true of all nations in Europe, as the English (possibly through the influence of American television programming) are also beginning to lean toward the convenience of fast food (either ready made or ready-to-cook). Another striking difference is that in mainland Europe, supermarkets are far fewer in number than in America, as a large number of Europeans still buy their food daily from markets in their towns or city centers (again, this is probably no longer true of the United Kingdom). These markets are part of the appeal that Europe has for Americans traveling to Europe.
Trivia: In Europe, an entree is usually the first course of a meal (the same as an American appetizer). The main course is called “the main course”. American’s like to have a salad course, but this is almost never seen in Europe as salad (if it is being served) will usually be presented alongside the main course.
7. Shops
Shopping in the typical American city is a mater of walking around, going inside of whichever building one needs explore in order to locate goods and services, and purchasing. We have a plethora of the Big Box Stores like WAL-MART, Target, Meijer, and those similarly huge home-improvement shops like Lowe’s, Home Depot, and the like. We like what we need readily available at our finger tips and unfortunately this has contributed greatly to the end many of mom-and-pop stores. Grocery delivery is very common in England, while it is still only seen occasionally in the US. Europeans prefer the open-air shops with the amazing array of vastly different foods available in each specific location suited specifically to the item’s location. In Europe you will still see more high street shopping than malls, though this is beginning to change in some countries. The upside to this is that you get personal service, the downside is that if you get dreadful service, you have no one to complain to. It can take a lot more effort to find the items you need as you have to go to many shops instead of one.
6. Money
American currency is just about as basic as it comes: Bills for anything for a dollar and over (5,10,20,50 etc.), and coins for anything a quarter (25 cents) or less: dime (10), nickel (5), penny (1). For the most part and for the longest time our bills have been green with nothing more than age-old etched images of presidents and persons of historical significance, and some say hidden meanings dating back to the rise of the Free Masons and other government clubs. The member states of the European Union have adopted a universal currency called the Euro (with the exception of the British who are exempted from adopting the Euro). This can be incredibly convenient when on holiday, but the adoption of the Euro has caused some difficulties in nations where prices dramatically rose – such as Italy.
5. Language
America has one language for all – American English (though some might say that Spanish is creeping in) – Europe, on the other hand has more languages than nations. As a result, most Europeans will learn at least one other language in school (this is often compulsory in mainland Europe, but not the United Kingdom). English is spoken in most major cities and in the case of some people – like the Dutch, the English in Europe can be better than the English in England. Combined with the universal currency of Europe, this really does make holidaying easier.
4. Sports
To Americans, nothing kills a weekend more appropriately than sitting around with some good friends, nursing a few beers, and watching your favorite sports team beat the snot out of its opponent. We here in the U.S. have five major sports: Baseball, American Football, Basketball, Hockey, and Car Racing. Grabbing several bowls of artery-clogging goodies, staking out a spot in a favorite chair, and yelling at the television is what sports fans are all about. We love our sports so much we’ve delegated entire clothing lines to them. Now in Europe, the four main spectator sports are Football (soccer), Cricket, Rugby, and Tennis. And as we all know, your rabid attraction to your home teams rivals the beastly incorporation we have with our own. In fact, I have never seen anything even remotely close to the mass of infuriated spectators rising in unison to a bad call or a loss than European sports crowds. It’s just scary and has been known in the past to be deadly.
3. Cooking
American cooking, for all its variety and excitement, owes its very existence to everywhere else. Even our deep-seeded southern roots stemmed from French influence. If it can be successfully fried, we’ll happily do it. If it can be mass-produced and served with fried potatoes, we’ll joyfully do that, too. We love our steaks, our hamburgers, our hot dogs, our potato and tortilla chips, and our foods smothered in gravy. Europeans have a diverse cultural history in their food and this is still obvious in every nation. It would be wrong, however, to consider European food healthier overall – this is not necessarily the case and Europeans, knowing this, tend to eat smaller portions. Virtually every aspect of French cooking involves butter and cream. Of all the European nations, England is the one with the worst reputation for food – it is expensive and usually bad. This, however, is beginning to change as more English people take an interest in redefining old English favorites (such as steak-and-kidney pudding) for the new millennium.
2. Drinking
There is very little doubt that America’s favorite alcoholic beverage has got to be beer. We love to import, export, and support the local micro-brews of which there are literally thousands. In fact, I live smack in the middle of six, and the beers produced there are always readily available. We do have quite the active wine making community as well, generally on the west coast in California, though other states, such as Michigan where I live, produce wine as well. In my state, selling alcohol before 12 p.m. is not only taboo, but illegal. On Sundays you aren’t allowed to purchase after five p.m., and if it’s a holiday, none after 2 a.m the previous day or on the holiday at all. Now, in bars and pubs, you can purchase (as long as you are inside) until 2 a.m. Also, unless you want some serious trouble, you ought to be 21 to do so at all. Despite this high drinking-age, many kids start around 16 or 17. Europeans of course have beer, wine, and other alcohol, but most often just different variations on the common theme. In Europe the drinking age in each country varies too, but to be on the safe side, carry your ID if you drink or purchase alcoholic beverages. Some countries list two legal ages: one to buy beer and wine and another to buy stronger spirits such as vodka, while other countries allow younger people to drink while dining in the company of adults. It seems that the laws are similar as are the concerns for under-age drinking and especially drinking and driving. One major difference here, however, is that many European families give their children wine with dinner (often watered down) – there is much less a taboo associated with alcohol in Europe than America, which may be partly a side-effect of the prohibition movement.
1. Day to Day
While Americans and Europeans (excluding the British) drive on the same side of the road, there are still many different rules. The most obvious is the American rule allowing cars to turn on a red light. Most of the street signs use the same international symbols. In England, there are a variety of different crosswalks with different names: A puffin crossing has the lights on the same side as the pedestrian; a toucan crossing is a crossing for pedestrians and bicycles; a pegasus crossing allows horse-riders to cross as well. There are also tiger crossings (alternating yellow and black stripes) to allow cyclists to cross without dismounting, and of course, the zebra crossing. But wait – there’s more. There are also pelican crossings which are traffic light controlled.
Power sockets in the United Kingdom differ from the rest of Europe, and both are different from American (and Japanese) sockets. European plugs generally have two circular pins for inserting in to the socket (though there are variations in almost all of the nations in Europe), while British and Irish plugs have three thick rectangular pins. Also, European lights switch off in the opposite direction to American lights.
























November 25th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
There are lots of great American Tv shows! They are not just all rip off’s of British shows.
The Simpsons, Arrested Development, It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia, Lost, Deadwood etc etc
Also…Any major grocery store will deliver to your home now. I don’t know why the author thinks it’s only for disabled or elderly people.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Why does it feel like the author hates living here or falls for the grass is greener on the other side.
What about healthcare being a big difference?
How about the variety of different cultures living here (in large populations?)
I am not trying to attack the author but to constantly slam on one country while proping up another does not make for the best list.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
This list doesn’t do much to quell the belief that Americans are fat, ignorant, and lazy . . . unfortunately most of us are!
And there is just something about a man with an accent . . . purr . . . Good stuff
November 25th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
I believe this list could have been written without being insulting. Strangely, I’m actually offended with the way this list was written whereas I wasn’t offended at all with the NSFW lists.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Clearly, the author has never seen an Italian eat.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
The British language we know today isn’t real British, it was made up 300 years ago in order for the nobles to sound more educated. The early colonists as well as the commoners of England sounded very similar to us.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
As you all know I am not American, but as I published this list (though I didn’t write it) – I feel I should point out that I would kill to live in America! If anyone has any ideas on how I can get a greencard, please let me know
November 25th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
The list is just the writers opinion on things. It wasn’t meant as an attack on anyone and you certainly shouldn’t be “insulted” by it. We all know that all americans arent fat and lazy, just like we know that not all brits would rather chew on rocks than brush their teeth. Everybody stereotypes even when we know that those steretypes aren’t necessarily true. It was a light-hearted list, its not like it was openly hostile and degrading. So just ENJOY IT!
November 25th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
I forgot to say, living in Europe but having been in the states, the biggest difference I have seen is that Americans are far more friendly than Europeans
November 25th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
sdggrant: that comment is hilarious – it reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Bart is the shown the “book of English Smiles”
Alas because of the health system in England, it is not too far from the truth.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Oh yeah, the differences in the views on sex and nudity should of been mentioned. I had a stepmother from sweden and she brought newspapers from all over europe back to america. I was surprised to see nudity all throughout the papers like it was no big deal. Do that in America and your lose every cent you have to your name, not to mention you will probably land in a jail. Also, my buddy is from Poland and whenever I go over there his father walks around in speedo’s (inside and outside the house) because its “no big deal in Poland.” Guess that what happens when your country was founded by the prudes and bible thumpers of europe
November 25th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
jfrater: The Mexicans have shown us that green cards are optional.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
sdggrant: you are right – the puritanical origins still have an effect I think – just as the Victorian prudishness is still effecting England (at least in my opinion).
rp: hehe I need to do it legally for peace of mind
November 25th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
TOO true rp! I live in Southern California (orange county) and in some places it would be hard to tell that you are in america still. I wish I was joking.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
jfrater: Ok, I’ll marry you . . . for the green card, of course!
November 25th, 2007 at 3:50 pm
jfrater: Find yourself a good, skinny, blonde, sweet and smiling American girl if you want that card.
What parts of America have you visited?
November 25th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
hehe, looks like angelina was a minute ahead of me on the marry-for-the-card idea!
November 25th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Why does she have to be blonde???
November 25th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
As someone who does live in Europe, allow me to just ask this: has the person who wrote this list ever been here? Or ever been somewhere else here other than a few selected parts of London? It certainly doesn’t sound like it.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Whoever wrote this article must live on the East Coast. What about our National Forests, covering millions of acres, where Americans go camping, hiking, fishing and hunting? Europeans don’t spend their summers sitting around a campfire in the middle of the wilderness, roasting marshmallows and looking at the stars. In America, that’s practically our national pasttime.
I love America fiercely. We save our lands, we protect our forests and wilderness, we battle oil spills and regulate our industry so we don’t hurt our wild life. In my home state we preserve open space so coyotes and rabbits and prairie dogs can live side by side with humans. We protect wolves and mountain lions and bears, so much so that we occasionally lose human lives to these predators for the privilege of sharing our world with them.
Europe has lost their wilderness, their wild animals, their places where one can go deep into the primeval. That’s the difference between Americans and Europeans.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
Unsurprisingly, the fat American writer shows his ignorance by constantly referring to Britain as part of “Europe”. Most Brits would beg to differ with that association – they refer to Europe as “The Continent” and are frequently at odds politically with the EU, France, Germany, etc. Britain does not recognize the euro as its currency. Also, Britain is far more pro-American than is The Continent, France’s Nicholas Sarkozy notwithstanding. In short, there is Britain and there is Europe; despite geographic proximity, they are not one and the same.
November 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
haha – thanks angelina
you have proven my point about how nice Americans are!
Daniel – the only part I have stayed in is San francisco – I went in January for the apple conference. I went to cannery row in Monterey too – as an homage to Steinbeck whom I love
November 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Sorry Bonnie, but the only reason those lands are protected is because they aren’t needed right now. Just look at Southern CA, land that used to be protected is turning into prime Beachside real estate. Even the great redwood forests in central ca are slowly being torn down. The only difference between Europe and America is that Europe has had a few extra hundred years to tear their forests down, were not too far behind…
Too true Claire, too true. I work with quite a few Brits and they aren’t to shy about pointing that fact out to the ignorant.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
claire – while I appreciate your sentiments, Britain is part of the EU. There are special conditions in their membership that allows then to retain the pound for now
November 25th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Bonnie: We europeans still have our wilderness and wild animals, albeit less than Americans due to the vast amount of land you guys have
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November 25th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
San Francisco (and New York City) can hardly be called representative of America – both are not conservative enough. Go check out Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Oklahoma, or Indiana for real America.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
I agree to some point with you Claire, 90% of my family lives in either South Dakota, Montana or rural Maine. And while they might live a “traditional” american life, the same kind lived 100 years ago, it is not representative of the popular american culture and image. If the small states were the true image of America, we would be less hated.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
claire – I didn’t write the list – someone asked me what part of the US I visited – it was nothing to do with this list. And please forgive my slow replies – I am typing on my 2 day old iphone and am not yet used to it
November 25th, 2007 at 4:13 pm
hmmm… it seems as though america and europe are just the same… same automaton societies! lol…
why not come visit asia? you’ll find diversity of all sorts.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
Shouldn’t this list be differences between the USA and the UK? I didn’t see a single other European country mentioned – even referentially.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
incidentally, thanks all of you for your calm reasonable comments in spite of a controversial topic – that is what makes this site so great!
November 25th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
JT – they’re between the lines
November 25th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Claire – We’re trying to get people to like America!
November 25th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
There are over 23 different beach parks in California including nine National parks. Those beaches comprise over 1,000 miles of protected property. They aren’t going anywhere. There are also thousands of miles of protected parks in inland California. Prime Beachside real estate is as it has always been — private property bought and sold on the open market. Any American, however, can enjoy one of a thousand miles of free and open public beaches in California.
I am always irritated by people who extrapolate their personal space to the entire world. I’m hungry — the world is starving! I’m crowded — the world is overpopulated! Today is hot — the globe is heating up and we’re all gonna die!
Sorry about the overcrowding in California, dude. You want some breathing room, we got plenty here in the great Western states.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Aye, Bonnie, I’m not denying that there are plenty of protected natural areas because there are. Call me a pessimist, but I think that in the long run(100 years from now, 150 years) those places will become too valuable as the population rises. Its happened many times, I dont agree with it, but it wil happen.
And yeah, crowding sucks. Once I get my degrees and a solid cash reserve, I plan on high tailing it out of southern ca, hopefully to somewhere on the Great Plains.
November 25th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
angelina: I mentioned she had to be blonde to showcase some more American stereotypes… no real reason
I have dark brown hair and the actresses I consider most attractive are all brunette.
I once asked my British friend to do her impression of an American; she replied, “You want me to sound 15% stupider?”
I love the British sense of humor!
November 25th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Sdg, according to this list you should probably high tail it to England instead of the Great Plains. Wonderful weather, great health care, luxurious and affordable housing, gorgeous women, and all the boiled meat your bloated American gut can stand. Hell, what are you waiting for?
November 25th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
how about word pronunciation? My boyfriend is Welsh, I’m American, and we are always arguing over the word aluminum. He says al-u-min-ium, and I say it’s alum-in-um. I say that one state in merica is bigger than his entire kingdom, so we’re right, but he says we’re all stupid and fat and have completely butchered the language. So who wins??
November 25th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
umm what about eletrical outlets…
i didnt take the time toread all these comments so if someone already said it then so be it. it was the first thing i thought off when i saw the title of the list
November 25th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
jfrater, I live in Monterey. I just moved here, I haven’t been to the Steinbeck Center in Salinas yet but it is on my list of things to do.
November 25th, 2007 at 5:08 pm
Daniel: I get your meaning.
For full effect, you should’ve added “big boobs”.
November 25th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Wait, wait wait, sandra…You said you’re American, then you said your boyfriend said all Americans are stupid and fat… I’m willing to be he’s been sleeping in the dog house since then, huh?
and RP
I love my country, even with all its faults, so moving overseas is a no-no, even if it does sound nice!
November 25th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
Ok, Ok, the cat has got to be let out of the bag…this list was meant to be mostly farcical and I was in a comedic mood today. I never in a million years expected to tune in to over 40 comments on something I wrote this morning! I felt a lighter lilt to the air was in order after I had written that evil child list (still stuck in my craw by the way) and, with Jamie’s blessing, I went all self deprecating with this list. No, i have never been anywhere near Europe, and no, I am not from the east coast. In fact, I live in south-western Michigan and it’s of no surprise to any other Americans who’ve read this, we’re a pretty bloated state. Of course America is gorgeous and I have been to 48 of the 50 states and I know just how awesome our country is. Please forgive me from those of you who are offended, and I honestly promise that this was very tongue in cheek. Please, laugh along with me, after all, I am a writer!
November 25th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
someones got a boner for europe.
and not every person living in amerika is completely retarded and white trash, as the “list” puts forth.. just as not every person living in england is eurotrashy with bad teeth and an uptight manner.
lets face it, europe and america are one in the same; petty cultural differences dont do too much to the overall picture of a diehard love of capital and imperialism.//
edit;;; this response is to the list conceptually, not to the author
November 25th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
Wow, you live in MI.
Cool, in what area?
November 25th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
Bonnie_: Europe has a huge amount of wilderness, right in it’s heart is Austria, Switzerland and the Alps, all postcard stereotypes of wilderness.
The quality of documentaries in Europe is far far better, BBCs Planet Earth can actually be regarded as a masterpiece, though its considered a British documentary. Not known as being European, when you live in Europe.
Sandra: you have to let your boyfriend win, they learnt the language before the Americans
Humour is wittier in Europe too, but that goes down to taste I suppose
November 25th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Stewwriter, something I’ve learned over the past few years, is that many many people have almost zero ability to detect sarcasm and/or humor on the internet unless you say one of the following: lol, haha, rofl, or roflwtfbbq, directly folowing your attempt at humor. By they wya, I enjoyed your list
November 25th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
NestorV: Portage city in the County of Kalamazoo! Pretty lovely area, actually!
November 25th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
sdggrant: Thank you! You have the knack for defending the poor fellow directly responsible for pissing of not one but TWO nations at once! I appreciate you’re noticing of my subtle-as-a-tack-hammer humor! Well done!
November 25th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
I’m sorry dear Stew, but I have a hard time findng a funny is such a sad description of our America. Granted, I’ve ALWAYS wanted to go to England. I am a proud American… how trite is that.(there’s a rarity ha ha) Maybe because my husband & father are NAVY my brother is ARMY, and one of my best friends is AirForce, It means something more to me. But no matter where you go, you’ll find smart people, dumb people, good people bad people…in may case someone who ramble. I just don’t see how putting us in the negative in the shadow of England (Or Europe)is funny. . . Okay I think that’s outta my system.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Thats because humor is relative, fallenangel. What I find funny, you do not. What you find funny, I do not. Doesn’t make you or me any less of a “patriot.” I was born on a military base in North Carolina, and then lived on different bases in california until I was around 14 or so, and yet I can still laugh. Just take it all with a grain of salt and realize we dont laugh at the same stuff.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Didn’t they– (who “they” are is up to whoever)– ship all the edible underwear- (used ofcoarse) — to Europe because no one else was purchasing it?..Or consuming it for that matter.
twas an after dinner mint from rock munching perhaps.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Fallenangel: I am sorry, as I stated in the previous apology, and I will try not to offend as maliciously again. However, as sdggrant has often stated, humor is relative.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Uhhh, what diogenes??? That was a total curve ball, lol.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
What about the women!? Most of the chicks in Italy and especially Spain are really beautiful.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
I understand that sdggrant, I did not mean to offend, I hope I did not. I can completely see various views of humor. Heck I laugh at some REALLY stupid stuff.
as for an apology Stew, dear, you have the right to say what you think is funny, and I support it. I guess the sterotype of fat and lazy bothers me, especially since I got injured, gained a ton of weight and can’t be anywhere as near as active as I was, but that’s a personal issue. Either how, I concour infectiously… humor is relative… see if you can’t find some dark humor for me would ya
he he
November 25th, 2007 at 6:28 pm
With regard to the comment about the smooth sophistication of British accents, you are full of crap. Have you ever heard people speak on Eastenders or Coronation Street? It could make your ears bleed!
November 25th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
This should be a post comparing the UK and the USA. Europe is not a single country, and the UK is far from a typical European country. In fact, there may not be a “typical” European country. The BBC is not a European organization. Airbus is.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
On no.5 you talk about the superfluous ‘U’ and I can’t tell if you don’t like the ‘u’ being in there but I have to say that being a Brit that moved to the U.S. I find it highly annoying when I read words without that ‘u’ in there. It just seems to make more sense with the ‘u’
November 25th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
Ok, folks, I can do this all night if you want to. Apparently I made a pretty stupid mistake with this little list and all I can do is try to calm everyone down by reiterating the fact ad nauseum if necessary that this HUMOR. I suppose masking as something else entirely was maybe the first mistake, and next time I try to ‘liven up the room’ I will consider my audience first. I guess I sound like I’m getting a little over zealous here with my continued attempts at covering my ass here, but, as stated, I never guessed I’d receive such scathing and angry comments. That being said, those of you in the crowd who are looking around realizing that this was a comedic piece from the get go, I applaud you.And for the record, again, I LOVE AMERICA and everything in it. It’s home, it is a great place to live, and i wouldn’t change its variety for the world. So, with that, i hope we can close this chapter and just enjoy the list for what it was meant to be. Good evening.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:52 pm
you fuck, You’re an American who just bashes your own country to look good for a bunch of pussy Europeans..
You should of said that the main difference between the U.S. and Europe is that the U.S. has balls and Europe doesn’t…I’ve lived in Denmark for 6 years…the countries are great..it’s the people that are annoying…maby if Europeans didn’t think they were on such high horses, they’d be ok…you also didn’t mention that Europeans don’t bathe everyday and they smell like shit.
November 25th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
man im gonna have to read through these comments
November 25th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
Re-read what you just wrote, Ross… Europeans need to get off THEIR high-horses??? Hopefully your post is just a joke of great distaste, if not then you need to learn to judge people individually and not by their geographic location.
Hopefully you are just an angry teenager, then your ignorance could at least be attributed to something other than stupidity.
November 25th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Stew: Come on, admit it, you like to get people all riled up!
Good writers always stir the pot. Kudos to you! Loved the list, it was very humoUrous!
November 25th, 2007 at 7:42 pm
This is so badly flawed and incorrect that it actually offended me. Congratulations.
November 25th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
Well, useless, maybe it just confirms that Europeans are also superior to Americans in writing.
November 25th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
This just keeps getting better. Yes, Angelina, I really REALLY do!
November 25th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
StewWriter, despite your attempt to be humourous….it just wasn’t very funny. I’ve read satire about the differences between America and [the rest of the world] that literally had me crying I was laughing so hard. Some of my favorite satire makes fun of Southerners and Texans (howdy!) and I don’t get offended easily WHEN IT’S FUNNY. Your list….wasn’t.
November 25th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Claire Modine
“San Francisco (and New York City) can hardly be called representative of America – both are not conservative enough. Go check out Kansas, Nebraska, Missouri, Oklahoma, or Indiana for real America.”
None of these states are the majority of America and neither are they the the most conservative states in America. I would know, I am from Kansas and I’ve been to all of the states you listed.
Some of the nicest people in the nation and some of the nicest people I’ve ever met period live in those areas.
So don’t try to group people together and act like they are terrible b/c you assume that all people in those areas are conservative (I’m a Kansan and I am definitely not conservative. Though there are a good amount of conservative people here).
Theres nothing wrong in holding your own political beliefs, even if you don’t agree with them.
On another note, before I get thoroughly bashed, the list didn’t bother me in the least. The ignorance of some people is what riles me up.
November 25th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
This was a horribly made list, not only was it not funny but it was actually mildly offending. I have been coming on this site for awhile and have read most of the lists, but i made this account today just so I could comment and say this is easily my least favorite list ever posted. Not because it bashed Americans, I could really care less, but that it wasn’t at all funny.
A list that was actually funny and was unbiased and bashed both Europeans and Americans or even a list that isn’t humor and actually list bona fide differences between Europeans and Americans would be much more entertaining. Also, This list doesn’t seem to be differences between America and Europe, but America and England. You talk about English accents, English television, and English currency. Come on JFrater! As a big fan of your site I am disappointed you posted a list of this poor quality!
November 25th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
O and I forgot to mention, Europeans sound sophisticated and Americans sound asinine? Obviously you have never hear a Scottish accent or the Dutch language (It really sounds like a throat disease.) And this is another example of this being a American/English difference list because last time I checked German, Dutch, Polish, Swedish, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, etc. were languages and not accents.
November 25th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Interesting comments and preference is surely subjective on which is better, if such a thing exists
I have to say, this list definitely should be titled “…differences between the U.K. and America”. While certainly a part of the EU, this is more representative of the two countries rather than a true comparison of the entire EU and America.
Btw, I am a North American living in Europe.
November 25th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Worst list ever
How could you possibly get so many things wrong? Britain and Europe are not the same yet you talk about the BBC as if it were a pan-European channel rather than just a British TV Channel (Hint, the first B stands for British), you mention pounds as if they were the European currency unit even though they’re only used in the UK, most EU countries use the Euro so what’s the point of using the pound as an example of teh differences between Europe and the USA. How on Earth can Europeans sound British? What about the French, Italians, Germans, and so on – do you seriously believe they all have British accents or that they all speak English, as implied in No 5. So many other errors too. This list is absolute rubbish.
November 25th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
differences in the power supply is totally ignored.
donno exactly but right hand drive and left….
and i beleive both americans and europeans are very gud at heart ,otherwise they wouldnt have allowed so many indians in
November 25th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
Well… somebody wants to move to England. The prejudice in this article is quite bloody astounding my jolly good chaps, blokes, and mongrels.
November 25th, 2007 at 10:51 pm
Also… the list has absolutely nothing to do with Europe…duh.
November 25th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
I would’ve gone with at least the difference in Americans being gun-happy psychos and Europeans being drugged-up (see: Amsterdam) socialist, but only to offend and in bad taste.
I say that as someone who sleeps with several guns in my house and who is keen on living life better thru chemistry (most of the time nature’s chemistry).
November 26th, 2007 at 12:09 am
I have to say I am at a bit of a loss with this one – normally when there are so many complaints I would modify the list to correct problems but I am not sure that would help! Maybe we can just all put it behind us and move on to the next lists – what do you say?
November 26th, 2007 at 12:10 am
On second thoughts, I am going to make a few tweaks. Stay tuned.
November 26th, 2007 at 12:11 am
Problem isn’t the list, it’s the uptight people >=(
November 26th, 2007 at 1:04 am
Very informative article. I was not aware that there are so many differences between Europe and America.
November 26th, 2007 at 1:10 am
Okay – I have gone through and edited this list – I have taken in to account all of the comments here, so thank you (even to those who were vitriolic!) I have given it a more Euro-centered slant than UK-centered.
November 26th, 2007 at 1:12 am
Samardeep: please don’t advertise your website in your comments – It makes more work for me as I have to edit them. Draw traffic to your site with good content, not spam
November 26th, 2007 at 2:20 am
Every person has a right to be patriotic, and because mostly Americas read this site, the commentors are predominantly offended and defensive. I myself have lived nine years in America, six years in England and and ten years in Europe. All these places are great, but without a doubt Europe is the best! The history, the architecture, the beauty, everything everything. I adore Europe.
November 26th, 2007 at 2:24 am
lola: you are right – generally we try to not show any negative bias here – but occasionally it slips through
I have edited the list now to rectify this.
November 26th, 2007 at 2:46 am
Jamie-about getting a green card, you either marry an american which is the quickest way, or you find work in america which you are extremely good at, and then the boss/company will sponsor you to get a greencard, so you can continue working for them.
November 26th, 2007 at 2:48 am
lola: have they not made the marriage law tougher now?
November 26th, 2007 at 2:51 am
I am not sure, but if you marry for love, it works. Thats how I got my card, and now I am a US citizen.
November 26th, 2007 at 2:59 am
sdggrant– no, he’s not sleeping in the doghouse, fortunately he thinks i’m the most beautiful creature in the world.
lola– unfortunately about greencards, my bf is here on a work sponsored visa of a british company, which means he can not work for anyother company unless he gets his own visa, which can take up to a year to receive. As for the marriage, well, we have to many problems in our relaionship as it is without adding marriage. I wonder if theres a way we could get a greencard using his relationship to our daughter?
November 26th, 2007 at 3:39 am
lola: oh – of course if it is a legitimate marriage it would be fine – but I thought that there were many checks in place to ensure that they are.
Sandra: If you both have a child together that must count for something surely? I think it does in the UK.
November 26th, 2007 at 4:07 am
America is vast enough that it has regions that are culturally different than other regions, There are regions that have their own personalities, and are almost like countries within a country. California and Texas are almost countries of their own. The regions are like clusters of neighboring states or areas where people from similar backgrounds still have some influences of the cultures of their ancestors (Immigrants), the population density, the local weather and even the terrain of their area. There are differences between the New England states and the Mid-Atlantic, which is different than the Midwest, the Pacific Northwest, the Southern states, the Southeastern states, etc.
I’m just saying this to point out to people who have only visited one part of the U.S.A, like if they went on vacation (or holiday) to Disneyland, that they shouldn’t think that all of America and Americans are exactly the same.
November 26th, 2007 at 4:27 am
Drogo: I definitely have plans to visit other parts of the US.
November 26th, 2007 at 4:39 am
Yes, you would be surprised at how different New York is from North Dakota.
November 26th, 2007 at 5:22 am
Hi, I would add that cricket und rugby are not among first 4 sports in continental Europe.
I am almost sure that in continental Europe, besides soccer, basketball and handball are among most popular 4 sports.
Cricket is played only in UK, and rugby is very popular in France also.
I am not sure about Ireland.
November 26th, 2007 at 6:20 am
I thought this list was about the differences between America and EUROPE, not America and Britain. This list really was quite bad.
November 26th, 2007 at 8:07 am
95 comments…Wow…I havent read each n evry one so i dont kno if it has been said already…..BOOBS….yes boobs….Europe has so much more boobs….evrywhere….on tv, at the beach etc….come to think of it the first time i saw a pair( i was 5) was on a hotel tv in brussells…..it was a soap commercial and they even had boobs there…..
November 26th, 2007 at 8:22 am
wow this list has got a lot of comments!!
someone mentioned healthcare not being on the list… that’s what I was thinking.
And I don’t understand #9. It doesn’t sound like there was any difference listed. No offense, whoever wrote this, but this list kinda sucked.
November 26th, 2007 at 8:24 am
Not my favourite list. Too much generalization, too heavy on England, and little appreciation for regional differences within the US or Europe.
November 26th, 2007 at 8:48 am
Sweden does not have Euro because it sucks. Also, since Norway isn’t a member it makes Sweden and Finland look like male genitalia.
Take a look: http://www.micc.org.mt/wimages/Euro_coins.jpg
Seriously, WTF is that?
November 26th, 2007 at 8:55 am
Patrask: hahah. I certainly wish that England would get with the program and adopt the Euro as well. It would certainly make holidays to France easier.
November 26th, 2007 at 9:25 am
You removed the blatant anti-American slant. Too bad, as it will kill the digg numbers.
November 26th, 2007 at 9:36 am
rp: I did – though the digg numbers were unlikely to have moved much more as they seldom will if you only reach the top 40s by the end of the day.
November 26th, 2007 at 10:44 am
You can’t win, can you, jfrater? My sympathies.
This wasn’t such a bad list. Of course, I only saw it post-tweak.
But you know—what Americans (who have an inferiority complex about Europe) need to know is that there is *tons* of stupidity and bad taste and a *lot* of white trash in Europe. (Trust me on this one, I know). I mean…. come on, think about it… these things were *invented* in Europe. We just imported them. The Europeans simply have an easier time covering it up, because at the opposite end of their spectrum, they have their tremendous, ages-old culture to hide behind.
On the other hand, gung ho Americans need to realize that we *don’t* have some corner on great living in this country; we have much to be proud of, but also much to be ashamed about. We should stop ignoring that, and ‘fess up to it. The fact remains that to this day the greatest contribution America has made to Western civilization is the combined codification of our political philosophy in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and Bill of Rights. Yes, we’ve played an important role in history… but artistically, culturally, intellectually… we’ve given the world very little as of yet beyond those aforementioned great documents, some good films, (but not as many as we think) and of course popular music—probably the second best thing we’ve delivered. Yup, we’ve offered economic opportunity to people… and we’ve certainly given back, altruistically, to those in need. But human life is also more than that, and much of what we offer doesn’t go beyond the limits of sustenance and material satisfaction–because these happen to be the things we’re most concerned with at home.
Europeans, on the other *other* hand, sometimes need to get off their collective high horse and admit once and for all that America saved Western civilization in the 20th century; this is no jingoistic flag-waving claim, but simple fact. Without America, the world today would be sunk in a barbaric nightmare of totalitarian horror. Whether German or Russian, we and only we had the power to face it and prevent its tide from sweeping you all away. Yes, the Brits deserve great credit for facing the Nazi threat alone for a time–but even Churchill knew that without America, Britain was doomed. And without America, Europe itself would have been doomed to Soviet domination after the war.
And I hate George Bush as much as anyone—but all this talk about “American Empire” is *still* just largely that–talk. I agree the threat of it should be taken seriously, as long as American greed runs our foreign policy… but then again, up to now America has never sought or taken the *real* kind of national aggrandizement that truly defines an imperial power. I find it especially irksome when Brits harp on this—a people who built the largest empire the world has ever seen (and empires, as we know, live entirely on subjugation and exploitation) and they have the nerve to bitch about American imperial pretensions. Check the beam in your own eye, my friends, before you deign to lecture me on the mote in mine.
November 26th, 2007 at 10:51 am
Well said Randall, though I think if Europe needs to accept that America saved them, America needs to accept that they should have come to their allies aid earlier, instead of when it suited them.
November 26th, 2007 at 11:01 am
Randall: I would say that America has also contributed more to the world of Opera (the study of the voice – not necessarily the repertoire) and poetry/literature in the 20th century than any other country. The American method of opera singing is the highest quality around now, and the 20th century literature of people like Ginsberg, Plath, WCW, etc. is monumental.
And Randall, thanks for such a decent comment – for the most part I agree with your sentiments.
November 26th, 2007 at 11:02 am
Oh – and you are right – we can’t win, but that is all part of the experience
November 26th, 2007 at 11:38 am
jfrater:
Thanks much… see, I CAN be decent… when I don’t have crackpots attacking me.
But I’ll tell you something, Jamie. I’m a writer, as it happens, and work in academia. One of the degrees I hold is in English Lit. And I’ll admit, there’s been some very good American literature. And I’m not one of those who feel the *English* are the best representatives of their own literature. In fact, if you look at that last couple hundred years, you see that, aside from DH Lawrence, Orwell and a few others, most of the giants of “English” literature were not English–but Irish (Joyce), American (Eliot, etc.) and so on.
All the same, I leave our (American) contribution to literature out because I feel it’s been very limited in scope and quality. A few greats—but not that many—and a multitude of mediocrities. And I don’t share your enthusiasm for Ginsburg or Plath, or even William Carlos Williams. I detest Hemingway. I *am* a great admirer of Henry Miller—and he’s been a huge influence on my own writing—but I also acknowledge his many faults as a writer.
These, of course, are only my own opinions… but looking back over the history of the US… I don’t feel our literary output has yet come up to snuff… nor will it, probably, for a very long time, as we seem to have entered a very non-literary age.
But then again, maybe I’m too dismissive of American authors and poets. I’m the first to admit that I’m biased towards European output of the early 20th century.
But you’ve given me an idea for a list or two… I might just be sending you something in future, if you’re open to it.
November 26th, 2007 at 11:49 am
Randall: absolutely send some in – I would be very interested to see a list on great American literature that manages to exclude the names I mentioned above! How can you not like Ginsberg and Plath? Howl and Daddy are astonishing in their clarity and dark beauty! Are you one of those Kerouac haters too?
What do you think of Burroughs (he is one of my favorite writers).
November 26th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Now now, Jamie… I didn’t say I *hated* Ginsburg or Plath… I just don’t hold them in the high esteem you apparently do.
And no, I’m not one of those Kerouac haters. I like Kerouac well enough.
As for Burroughs, you know… as Burroughs himself was something of a follower of Henry Miller, I have, therefore, some small affinity for Burroughs. But the circumstances of his life have always made me queasy–drug abuse, murder, etc. I realize this isn’t fair–one’s supposed to judge the work, not the artist–but sometimes the life intrudes on the art, as it were.
But see… there’s the pattern you often see; when people talk about American literature, they very often bring up the Beats and only the Beats… Kerouac, Brautigan, Burroughs, Kesey…. and my reaction is that I find some of their individual works to be important and good, but *overall* I see the Beats as a dead end, and all the surrealism and angst bores me after a time.
Miller, on the other hand, was life-affirming, and I’ve always preferred the call to life over the squashy, squalid, and miserable.
November 26th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
Which America does one compare? Glendo Wyoming and Boston’s Back Bay have much less in common than NYC, London and Paris do.
Americans are on the whole much more conservative than our European cousins. Witness the age of constitution compared the relative youth of our republic. We have had one type of government here for the last 231 years. How many governments has France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Portugal even Britain had during that same period?
November 26th, 2007 at 1:29 pm
el duderino: Britain has had the same governmental system (in essence) since the Magna Carta in the 1200s (I think 1200s). France got their government shortly before yours and it has been the same in principle since then. Spain still has the King and Queen – the same as before Franco (giving them at least 1,000 years of the same government), with Franco holding their place for them during the communists attempts to take over. I don’t know about Portugal. Italy has been a mess for the last 200 years.
Randall: I appreciate what you are saying – though I don’t generally find the beatniks to be anti-life – I find Burroughs work very inspiring and it enhances my life!
November 26th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
jfrater/el duderino: (nice moniker there, by the way, “el duderino.” Is that written in some neo-goth script with flaming decals on the side of your van?)
Some small corrections: jfrater is skirting the truth a tad when he says Britain has had the same governmental system (in essence) since the Magna Charta. Now now, Jamie… let’s be honest with the boy; while it’s true we can call Britain a constitutional monarchy all through that period, it’s equally true that A) there was a great governmental reform in Britain in the 1820s which *in actuality* created the British government we know today–more or less–whereas prior to that time the government was far more at the whim of the King, and the system of representation–no to mention suffrage–was far more limited and was by no means actual democracy. B) Also, you forget that little episode with Cromwell… you know, King being beheaded and all that, a revolutionary government subsequently overthrown in its turn… small point, that.
On the other hand, we CAN say that, aside from the aforementioned governmental reforms, Britain HAS had essentially the same system since the United States officially became a nation.
Now, with France, Jamie… come now. It went from monarchy to revolutionary state to totalitarian nightmare to imperial monarchy, back to standard monarchy, then into another revolution, another imperial monarchy, onto democratic (more or less) parliamentary state… then conquered by the Nazis, then free state again, then near-revolution in 1968… I think it’s fair to say that France was less than consistently governed during the 230 year period “el dude” is referring to.
As for Burroughs, to each his own… again, I don’t dislike his work, I’m just not a big fan of the Beats in general, is really all I mean to say.
November 26th, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Jfrater- Great job updating the list!
November 26th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
Hmmm… did Sweden, Denmark, Bulgaria and Romania adopt the euro while I wasn’t watching?
November 26th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Drogo – Very well put.
I’m glad somebody came up and said it.
And that doesn’t necessarily apply just to Americans though.
People will go to one part of a country or maybe meet a few tourists from that country visiting their own (tourists are the worst representation of a country and a culture b/c they are in unfamiliar ground where their rules don’t apply) and they automatically assume that EVERYONE from that country or culture is the same. Its a terrible assumption.
For example, its like that stupid Canadian bit “Talking With Americans”. All they do (Jay Leno does the same thing with “Jay Walking” with less emphasis on stupid Americans) is ask people questions and edit out ALL of the intelligent answers and leave in the small amount of really stupid answers. Though they are trying to be humorous, people take it the wrong way and assume EVERY American is that stupid.
Just search for those bits on Youtube (which contains some of the worst people on the internet) and read the comments.
November 26th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
WOW.
I quite liked the list
… although I would have liked to see it before the editing so I could see what all the fuss is about.
Maybe do one about Canadians vs Americans next time!? From what I hear the rivalry is similar to Kiwis and Australians.
I love this site!!!
November 26th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
jfrater, I must confess, I didn’t read all of the comments so the offer may already have been posed, but if you’re looking for an American to marry, I’m game! I love the List Universe and as you are its creator, I’m sure I will love you too!
I’m not blonde and must also disclose that I live in Central Ohio which, while not as glamorous as California, is friendly and quaint. Anyway, love the site.
November 26th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
“Also, European lights switch off in the opposite direction to American lights.”
O.O
NO WAY. That’s nuts. Why?
And Randall: I think I agree with you for one of the fist times ever. You actually haven’t totally gotten my blood up with your post. =p Good defense. I enjoyed reading it.
As for the list itself…not funny. I only saw it post-editing, so not terrible anyway, but definately not humorous.
November 26th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Drogo: I think “Top 10 Ways New York is Different from North Dakota” is an outstanding idea for a list!
StewWriter: How ’bout it, Michigan boy?
November 26th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Cromwell’s Britain was no small coda to the history of British governance. Hell, Cromwell had Charles I beheaded and made himself Lord Protector, surely an unprecedented form of government in Britain and then set up the English Republic, ravaged Catholic Ireland and Scotland.
The French have had more governments than baths. I know it’s been like 60 years or so but the guys in charge of France during WWII and who ruled from Vichy were just like the Nazis only not as effective nor as well dressed. De gaul headed the Free French government in exile in London and Algiers while he was tried in absentia in Vichy France and sentenced to death for treason.
Spain’s constitution is less than thirty years old. Yeah the have had a monarchy for millenia, but the Spanish monarchs haven’t always been Spanish, i.e. Joseph Bonaparte. Then there’s the governments of military dictators de Rivera and Franco, giving way to Juan Carlos II in the 20th century. As late as 1981 the military has tried to take over the Spanish government.
Now Europeans are governed to some extent by the EU. Americans would never allow themselves to be governed by any pencil necked apparatchik in Brussels. Never.
Randall, no regrettably el duderino is merely my bogging/online name.
November 26th, 2007 at 9:13 pm
For those who missed it, Stew probably pressed the boundaries of good taste. And considering the amount and venom of the responses, it could be considered a success, actually. And, given what I know now, I’m a bit embarrassed to have taken it seriously.
Really, when you look at the number one subject on the list (which has since been changed to something far more sensical) it was obviously meant as a joke. Was it satire or more a reflection of the author’s take on his own country’s shortcomings? Up to the viewer, I guess.
November 26th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
nopunynerd: Perhaps, perhaps… I have been to both, but, considering my current track record for state and country comparisons, I think I’ll steer clear of that potential blast radius.
re: Thank you. I do believe that sums it up. And, despite my chastising and verbal waylaying, at least you can all take part in reading my other, far superior and less pointless, lists. Sometimes humor is about as well placed as a exhaust backfire: it’s messy and it stinks.
November 26th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
No need for apologies, as I know how difficult it really is to compile good lists.
Personally, I’m working on a few lists for the site, but I will be the first to admit that it is very VERY difficult to come up with something that is interesting and informative. Everything has been pretty much been taken, as you know.
For the most part it’s a matter of cleaning up and/or improving the most basic of them and going on from there… or coming up with something really different which takes unusual creativity and imagination. And then there is the further matter of writing ability, which so few of us possess.
November 27th, 2007 at 1:16 am
Jamie—–when you apply for a green card through marriage you need to prove that your marriage is real. This includes joint bank account, joint tax return documents, the same address, photographs of your life together, such as wedding,(though not nesesary) on holiday, at home ect.. If you have a very good friend to help you do this you can pull it off. I have seen it done many times. The most nerve raking step of the process is when you go in for an interview with one of their government workers, you need to look in love, because they are the ones who make the decision, whether to grant you a card or not.
November 27th, 2007 at 1:31 am
lola: wow – that is a lot of effort!
November 27th, 2007 at 4:51 am
for the most of it, this list is bullshit.
you compare Europe and USA like Europe is a country, but you seem to know that it isn’t. for example the !st difference: government of the EU does not rule Europe as a country, and governments of individual countries in Europe ARE dividied in judicial, legislative and executive. Reading the first difference, being crap, I say that everything else in this list, but the last paragraph is also crap.
this doesnt mean I dont enjoy the rest of your site.
November 27th, 2007 at 7:02 am
dangorironhide:
I agree 100%, though to be fair we must remember it was a different world then, and Americans at the time found it far more loathsome than they do today, to get involved in the affairs of foreign nations—except for our little neighbors to the South, of course, whom we were all too willing to invade and otherwise push around as it suited us.
el dude:
Really, you should think about the van.
November 27th, 2007 at 7:56 am
wow, i can’t believe nobody did this yet…
Vincent Vega: [Y]ou know what the funniest thing about Europe is?
Jules Winnfield: What?
Vincent Vega: It’s the little differences. I mean they got the same shit over there that they got here, but it’s just, just there it’s a little different.
Jules Winnfield: Example.
Vincent Vega: Alright, well you can walk into a movie theater and buy a beer. And, I don’t mean just like a paper cup, I’m talking about a glass of beer. And, in Paris, you can buy a beer in McDonald’s. You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with Cheese in Paris?
Jules Winnfield: They don’t call it a Quarter Pounder with Cheese?
Vincent Vega: No, man, they got the metric system, they don’t know what the fuck a Quarter Pounder is.
Jules Winnfield: What do they call it?
Vincent Vega: They call it a Royal with Cheese.
Jules Winnfield: Royal with Cheese.
Vincent Vega: That’s right.
Jules Winnfield: What do they call a Big Mac?
Vincent Vega: Big Mac’s a Big Mac, but they call it Le Big Mac.
Jules Winnfield: Le Big Mac. What do they call a Whopper?
Vincent Vega: I don’t know. I didn’t go into Burger King. You know what they put on French fries in Holland instead of ketchup?
Jules Winnfield: What?
Vincent Vega: Mayonnaise.
Jules Winnfield: Goddamn.
Vincent Vega: I’ve seen ‘em do it, man. They fucking drown ‘em in that shit.
i just had to get that off my chest.
JFray, is there a way to see the original list. i was so confused as to why everyone was so upset. then, after reading 81 comments, i saw that the list had been changed.
i promise i won’t get mad stewie!!
November 27th, 2007 at 8:07 am
Mmmmm, I love mayonnaise on my chips
Mayonnaise is one big thing for me that KFC has over Macdonalds
November 27th, 2007 at 11:11 am
Well, reading through all these comments I’ll just say one thing: EVERY region in the world has it’s pros and cons, it’s charms, and it’s bad sides. But at the end of the day it all depends on the individual him/herself as to how they perceive these…
I call Vancouver (BC, Canada) my HOME, and I just LOVE it, there is no other way to put it!!!
–It does have a lot of rain, granted, but many have still named it the number 1 city to lie in, in the word
I haven’t lived here my whole life though. I was born in Bosnia-Herzegovina, where I spent my childhood, and I loved it there. The country is amazing. The people even more so. When I go there to visit family and old friends I’m always amazed as to how friendly and happy all the people are, even after all what they’ve been through during the Serbian aggression.
Also, I lived in Croatia for some time, and I loved it there too… The people are awesome and the culture too. The nature, the sea, countless islands…
I’ve traveled throughout the Europe, and EVERYWHERE I’ve been to I enjoyed the people, the culture, and the settings they live in. (I love history, so I may actually move back to Europe sometime, for that reason alone. There is tons to see. Although I love Vancouver, I miss that aspect of things… For instance, Vancouver is just about 150 years old).
On this side of the globe I’ve been to a number of cities in the states (mostly west coast), and again I must say the people are VERY friendly, open, and easy going.
Different people, cultures, cuisines, languages, countries, etc. are here for us to explore.
Wouldn’t it be boring if everything, everywhere were the same.
Carpe diem.
November 28th, 2007 at 12:51 am
Main difference….
Europe is a Continent.
America is a Country.
Most of the differences make alot of sense now huh?
November 28th, 2007 at 3:33 am
As an ex-New Yorker, I would love to see a top 10 differences between NYC and WY.
On a similar vein, for a good read, look at this –> http://members.aol.com/david10567/journal.htm
It’s the journal of a Texan’s experience of moving to New York. Quite entertaining and insightful.
Cheers,
Shaun
November 28th, 2007 at 6:58 am
Here in South Africa, we lean more to the Europeans, though I’d say more British, Dutch and French.
I guess that will derive from Colonial times, since the Europeans were basically the “founders” and colonisers of many of the Southern African countries. Basic stuff like driving on the left hand side of the road, we got from the British.
November 28th, 2007 at 8:40 am
shaun: really enjoyed David Bell’s journal … thanks for the link. I recently moved back to Houston after being away for years. Top 10 Differences Between NYC and WY sounds great.
Penny
November 28th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
The list is far too focused on the UK, which is not really seen (especially culturally) as a part of Europe. Some corrections here from Germany, which is a far more typical European country.
10. Government: Quite right as it is written.
9. Television: You have a lot of TV options in Germany, either digital or analog; terrestrial, cable or satellite. You get a few hundred channels, if you like, via digital satellite.
There are two nationally funded channels (ARD and ZDF) and two dozen or so regional (on the state level) “third programs” like WDR and NDR. All of them are advertising-free. The commercial channels are usually in the hand of a few media empires and full of crazy reality shows no sane human (even including Americans) would watch.
8. Meal times and etiquette: I live in a major urban agglomeration, and no supermarket is more than five minutes by foot away. Huge malls/shopping centers are not that common as in the US (2 in my city of 400000), but there is usually at least one hypermarket in every city district or smaller town.
7. Shops: Open air markets and mom-and-pop stores? Maybe in rural Romania. Where I live, you go to the supermarket or one of the large specialty stores because there are not many other options.
6. Money: Prices also increased in Germany when the Euro was introduced in 2001 because the retailers saw the opportunity to round up by a few cents. But competition between the retailer chains removed that effect quite soon.
5. Language: Germans and Scandinavians are probably the best non-native English speakers. But in France and southern Europe, you will have a VERY hard time trying to communicate in English, as I know from experience.
4. Sports: Cricket? Rugby? Is that something you can eat? Germany and most other European countries are all about soccer, soccer and soccer. Maybe sometimes Tennis, if there is nothing better on TV.
3. Cooking: Whether European food is healthier or not healthier than American food is arguable, but Americans apparently eat more strongly preprocessed fast food. Where I live, there is a very diverse and international fast food and snack culture. Most of it definitely has more vitamins than Big Mac & Co., because it visibly contains uncooked vegetables.
2. Drinking: Poor Americans. Germany is not especially liberal with drinking age for European standards, but it still means you can drink in the public with 16 and consume the stronger booze with 18.
The funny thing is: Because Germany is so liberal with drinking in public places, you actually DON’T SEE many drunk people on the street, which on the other hand is a major problem in the UK.
1. Day to day: Ok, the intersection stuff makes me finally think the Brits are some really crazy folks
German intersections have four-stage traffic lights (red, red+yellow, green, yellow) and when there are none, there are stop/yield/right of way signs. Without signs, there is a right-before-left rule, e.g. you have to give right of way to everyone right of you.
You can only turn right at a red light if there is that small green arrow sign next to it, and only after you have stopped and ensured it is possible without endangering someone.
November 28th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Bonnie: “I love America fiercely. We save our lands, we protect our forests and wilderness, we battle oil spills and regulate our industry so we don’t hurt our wild life.”
LOL! That’s because you invade and ruin everybody else’s lands, cut down their trees, steal their oil and and regulate your industry by putting their children to work to make shoes!!! God bless America hey…
November 28th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Jay what country do you live in?
November 28th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
UK originally but I emigrated several years ago.
November 28th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
Shawna -
“Main difference….
Europe is a Continent.
America is a Country.
Most of the differences make alot of sense now huh?”
No, no, no.
America is not a country, but a region comprising of two continents and in the list’s case, Northern America .
The United States OF America is a country.
Nice try.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
D Holmes -
Aren’t you nitpicking a bit? It was understood that by saying America, she was refering to the United States of America. Most Amerians just say “america” when refering to our country, maybe it was just lost in translation?
edited for a typo!
November 28th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
Jay, every country exploits countries less powerful than itself, I’m not saying its right, but it happens. You say you are from the UK? The UK is the origional SUPER-empire and most african and asian coutries are still fucked up due to colonization by English and European nations.
I remember hearing a corny saying when I was little – “Everytime you point a finger, there are three pointing right back at you.”
Cheers!
November 28th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
I’m not disagreeing with you. I was merely pointing out how ridiculous the statement from Bonnie was. And it’s slightly Ironic that Americans feel so proud of their country and swear allegiance to their flag, when the only other people to do the same are from the places the USA are at odds with, like N. Korea, Iran, Iraq etc. But I guess that irony is lost on most Americans..
Not having a go at Americans, just making a point. You won’t find too many Europeans making statements like that about their home country. Most have an inherent cynicism and mistrust of their Govt.
That’s probably the biggest difference.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Oh, and BTW, although the British Empire was certainly not saintly, it didn’t just rape the counties for local resources. Most of the countries it took over it left better off. It gave many countries education, sanitation, infrastructure, medicine, stable government… the list goes on.
It was motivated by the greed and want for local resources, granted, but it wasn’t all bad. Look at Australia, India, Hong Kong, and let’s not forget the good old USA… If there’s one thing the Brits know how to do it’s run an occupied country! Lol
November 28th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
The USA has its own god examples as well. Just take a look at Singapore. Puerto Rico? How about post WWII Japan, the US did alot to bring them back on their feet, and it shows with the good relations we still have with them today. I dont think there is any one horrible country in the world. Only horrible leader.
I agree with you in that the US gov has a bad rep for real and some good reasons. The US might be no holds barred when it comes to dealing with other countries, but it protects the basic rights of those living under her. Presidents will come and go, but life for americans really wont change much due to the way our system of gov works. As long as this system stays in place I’ll always be a loyal American.
Take Bush for instance, the last 4 years my life and the lives of my friends and family has improved, even though Bush is a dimwit. The system of checks and balances ensures that one man(even our own leader) will not be able to drastically change our way of life.
I think that all nations will, to some degree, have the same successes and failures due a common trait shared by all. We are all human. All humans fuck up, its inevitable.
November 28th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
I’m a bit tipsy right now, sorry if I’m all over the place
November 28th, 2007 at 11:38 pm
“Well, useless, maybe it just confirms that Europeans are also superior to Americans in writing.”
I’m British, genius. It was the descriptions of Europe I found offensive.
November 29th, 2007 at 12:21 am
Randall: Your claim Europe would have been doomed if the USA hadn’t stopped Russia? An outrageous, exaggerated claim that is purely speculative. It was pushed by the USA at the time in order to give the Govt. carte blanche on carrying out it’s foreign policy pertaining to it’s anti-communist ideals.
Secondly America was selling arms and supplies to the Allies way before they joined the war, choosing to profit from the Nazi onslaught before being forced into the war by Pearl Harbor in 1941. Hardly something to be proud of.
Also the Russian casualties in WW2 fighting the Nazis were more than all other allied casualties combined. Giving sole credit to the USA for saving the world from being “sunk in a barbaric nightmare of totalitarian horror” is a little over the top, if not patronising and frankly disrespectful to those that sacrificed themselves from day one. Not to mention the “dangerous” state of the world today, due largely, again, to American foreign policy. America carries much of the blame for the anti-western feeling among the Muslin nations, so claiming the USA is making the world a safer place is quite bizarre.
And people “bitch about American imperial pretensions” because the rest of the world has learnt from long gone empires and their mistakes, it’s just America that sees it necessary to invade countries that have never posed a threat to them.. Altruism you say? I think US foreign policy is the absolute antithesis of altruism. You couldn’t be more wrong.
But hey, that’s just my opinion.
November 29th, 2007 at 12:36 am
And don’t get me wrong – I know I sound like I’m just having a go at Americans but I’m not. I like America, have many American Friends. It just upsets me when the US tries to re-write history and ignore the more unattractive aspects of past and present governments.
November 29th, 2007 at 12:59 am
“Secondly America was selling arms and supplies to the Allies way before they joined the war, choosing to profit from the Nazi onslaught before being forced into the war by Pearl Harbor in 1941. Hardly something to be proud of.”
Whoa whoa whoa, there was no need for us to be involved in WW2 until Pearl Harbor, USA tried to keep our nose clean, isn’t that what the rest of the world wishes we would do now? No one allied nation is resposible for “winning the war” but it could be argued that America entering the war tipped the scales in favor of the allies.
Also, during the Amerian civil war (more american casualties than all other wars combined) the UK and FRANCE did nothing but profit from the war, while refusing to take sides. They refused to takes sides until it was clear that one side would be able to win on its own. In other words, they only wanted to step in at the last minute, when the smoke was clearing, and try to gain a new foothold on American soil.
And for christs fucking sake, Jay. America has done NOTHING that the core European (UK icluded) nations have not done. The only difference is that we did them AFTER. The reason for that is because we just got a LATE START.
The USA has tons of idiots within its borders, unfortunately they are usually the most outspoken individuals. Most of these idiots think that the USA can do nothing wrong and mouth off like they actually know something. Ignore these people, you seem like an intelligent person, Jay, so just ignore the idiots. Say what you need to say, but realize that America has dont nothing that Europe hasnt done, you guys just got a head start.
November 29th, 2007 at 1:58 am
I pretty much agree with you sdggrant. The only thing I would say different is that the USA did these things, and continues to do, AFTER everyone else as you say, with the benefit of the history books, which is pretty bad in this modern age.
But you are right, every country on the planet has blood on it’s hands, there is no denying that. I agree completely. I am indeed guilty of getting angry due to the louder ignorants out there..
I was basically replying to the post from Randall as it got under my skin. Will commence with ignoring post haste.
November 29th, 2007 at 2:09 am
I am a New York expat living in London and I love America too; if by “America” you are talking about everything East of the Hudson and West of San Francisco Bay.
sdggrant: You are right – “America” means the USA; if people mean North or South America, they say that, or both, “The Americas”. Of course, if you’re from Texas, it’s “Amurka”.
November 29th, 2007 at 2:30 am
Re: WWII – America actually stayed out of the war because of a strong isolationist mentality prevailing amongst the population of the time. Roosevelt actually thought America should go to war, but knew there was no way the public would support it (hence all the conspiracy theories that he ‘let’ Pearl Harbor happen, akin to those that Bush ‘let’ 9/11 happen…).
Truth is, until Europe was decimated by WWII, America was a pretty inconsequential country, almost a backwater on the edge of the world – I think most people just wanted to stay safely on their comfortable, spacious continent and let the world get on with its own affairs.
As I said, I am from New York (I don’t lay claim to any part of North America off the island of Manhattan), and I have great misgivings about America and its current policies. However, I do find it a bit frustrating that America is demonised for its heavy hand, but conversely is expected to step in whenever there is trouble. Unfortunately, you can’t have it both ways. I think, on balance, it’s much better America’s no longer isolationist, and I hope the recent mistakes are just blips and not a foreshadow of a consistent new American Way.
November 29th, 2007 at 2:40 am
shaunism..”Of course, if you’re from Texas, it’s “Amurka”.”
hey, not all Texans talk like that.
i don’t.
November 29th, 2007 at 2:45 am
Cyn: Thanks for taking my light-hearted fun the way it was meant to; after I posted that I read more of the posts and realised I could’ve opened up another flame war. Whoops!
You know, I was just thinking about how everywhere has its points to be proud of and its points to laugh about, and how they each attract different sorts. My friend David said very wisely about New York “Your family and friends from back home will hate New York for all the reasons you love it.” I think that is a brilliant insight and can be said about most everywhere.
November 29th, 2007 at 3:15 am
that is an excellent insight.
November 29th, 2007 at 4:27 am
If a flame war broke out I was going to ask “Can’t we all just get along?”
November 29th, 2007 at 7:45 am
Cricket as a popular sport in Europe ?
I think most Europeans (outside the UK) have never even heard of it (and certainly don’t know the rules).
I believe cycling is another major sport in Europe (at least in Belgium, Italy, France, Spain, the Netherlands, …).
It can’t beat football ofcourse (or soccer as “USA-tians” call it).
“… and in the case of some people – like the Dutch, the English in Europe can be better than the English in England.”
WTF ?
November 29th, 2007 at 10:56 am
So why are we comparing a Continent with a Country … ??? …
damn americans with your superiority complex … absolutely no mention of Canada … or Mexico for that matter ..
November 29th, 2007 at 11:13 am
Jay:
Come off it. Who’s “rewriting history” here?
Your posting was so full of addle-brained statements, I don’t know where to begin. You clearly don’t know the history of the country of your birth, let alone the US.
First of all, you say, the UK “…was pushed by the USA at the time in order to give the Govt. carte blanche on carrying out it’s foreign policy pertaining to it’s anti-communist ideals.”
What have you been smoking? The government of the UK–even under Labour–has, if anything, been even more staunchily anti-Soviet than the US. Certainly Britain had reason to be; the UK was a clear target of Soviet espionage since well before WWII. There were a lot of fellow-travellers and other Russian-communist sympathizers in the UK before the war, particularly in the intellectual classes, and many of them made no bones about their allegiance being to Moscow, not Whitehall. The government was aware of this and knew the threat posed. While certainly, sure, a few artists and writers and other free-thinkers did no harm, it was well aware that there were a few serious militants in the crowd who would be only too glad to bring even violent revolution to Britain if they could. Mind you–I’m not defending the ruling classes of the UK, of the day—they were, if anything, close-minded know-nothings who were more interested in maintaining a rigid status quo… but my point is, the British government has long felt threatened by Stalin’s obvious attempts at exporting communist revolution. (And let’s not pretend, as you seem to be, that Stalin didn’t do this. Comintern was a very real thing and it’s purpose was to sow the seeds of revolution wherever and whenever it could). Moreover, it’s well known that Britain was a favorite target of Stalin’s… he deeply distrusted the British and saw them as one of the primary threats to his foreign policy prior to the war; second only to Germany. And it’s long been known that about the only people in Europe that the Soviets had more rancor for than the Brits were the Swedes.
So the idea that the US “pushed” the UK to agree with US foreign policy after the war is absolutely laughable. Your statement smacks of someone who’s bought some old, antiquated leftist propaganda hook, line, and sinker.
And at that, let me stop and say, you’re not dealing with some Right Wing, jingoistic, flag-waving American here. I do, in fact, write more or less from the Left, and am by no means some blind supporter of my country or its foreign policies. (Let alone some of its domestic ones). But I care passionately about historical truth—and the stuff you’ve dished out is as far from historical truth as people sometimes get.
Getting back to it—what the hell does your statement have to do with the reality of post-war Europe anyway? There is simply no possible way Britain could have been victorious against Germany on its own—it would have been forced into alliance with Russia as it was, in fact—and assuming there *was no* United States–what do you suppose would have happened once the USSR had defeated Germany? Britain never could have managed a cross-channel invasion of France without American manpower and supplies… so clearly the USSR would have swept across Europe all the way to the Atlantic. What Stalin’s move would have been then is anybody’s guess–surely he wouldn’t have invaded Britain, but equally surely he wouldn’t have simply brought his troops home to play nice. It would have meant either the outright occupation of all of Western Europe or the setting up of puppet governments in the countries of Europe that had once been free allies of Britain. If you think Britain could have survived long and remained free in such a world, minus the US, and without being forced to eventually rely on Soviet “friendship,” then I’ve got a nice bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. And indeed, “Jay,” that would have been the conclusion of our Western Civilization as we know it. If you don’t want to accept this simple fact, I can’t help your glaring ignorance.
I never excused American behavior prior to WWII. Indeed, I’ve long thought it reprehensible that we didn’t step into the fray sooner—but playing hindsight games is also highly disingenuous. The US had a tradition at that time of deep distrust for the European powers, Britain included, and a distaste for getting involved in European “messes.” I don’t excuse it–in fact I find it an example of our then-childishness in terms of our responsibility to the world–but it IS understandable, given our history.
As for the Russian contribution to defeating the Nazis, you’ve either entirely misunderstood me (which I doubt) or again, you’re simply steamrolling over my statements in order to blurt out more nonsense. In point of fact I acknowledge the terrible price the Russian people paid in WWII and the great contribution they made in crushing Germany, and it’s likely that even without the US, Russia could have done this. (But let’s not forget that American Lend-Lease DID make possible a lot of the recovery that Russia experienced, despite deep and serious losses to the Nazis in terms of materiel, factories, and manpower… though I know perfectly well that even without this, Russia almost certainly would have defeated Germany in the end–though it would have taken longer, and been bloodier). But the point was not whether Russia could have defeated Germany—but that Germany was NOT the only threat to Western Civilization. Stalinist Russia was ALSO a threat, and a real one–and a Russian solitary victory in WWII, would not have been a good thing for the West and its tradition of freedom.
And I’ll caution you about lecturing me on the sacrifices made in that war, “Jay.” I don’t know what your family did in the war, but six of the male members of my family at the time were *in combat,* including my father—not simply in uniform, mind you–not in the rear echelons operating radios or fixing trucks in motor pools or sitting behind desks–they were *in combat.* So don’t high horse me, sir.
As for the dangerous state of the world today being the fault of US foreign policy—good lord, if that’s not an overstatement I don’t know what is. I’ll be the first to grant you that American foreign policy in the postwar world hasn’t always been operating on full brainpower, and it’s certainly been shortsighted at times–but to blame Arab insanity on American foreign policy alone or even mostly is making an outright lie out of a small truth. And it’s deeply unseemly for a *Brit* even more so to make such statements–it’s the stupid and haphazard dividing up of the Middle East into artificial-boundaries by Britain and France that has helped fuel the unending mess there, and Britain and France were only too happy to keep on contributing to the flames right up until the Suez Crisis–so get off of it.
For whatever reason of their own, the Arabs all over the Middle East have chosen to turn backwards away from their historical intellectual traditions to a more rigid and fundamentalist interpretation of Islam, and worse, to take on a deep and intransigent sense of victimization. Why, I don’t know—perhaps it has something to do with ALL of us in the West treating them shabbily—but certainly not the US alone. We are simply the lates in a long line of Western powers that they’ve had it in for. Frankly I find their victim-game tired and sickening. Is America partly to blame for it? Maybe… but the Arabs the Middle-East over, no matter what their country, are also to blame if they turn away from sanity to totalitarian madness–which they have been doing since WWII ended, and without American encouragement.
“…America that sees it necessary to invade countries that have never posed a threat to them..”
Another piece of propandagandistic bullshit. Yes, again, I grant you—America has many times done this–many times in South America, for example… but so have many other Western powers, pal. Moreover, to characterize American foreign policy since WWII as mere “empire building,” and the “invading of countries that pose no threat to the US”—is just ridiculous cant. American foreign policy, right or wrong, since WWII, centered around opposing Soviet expansion and domination, and protecting American interests. Do I defend everything the US did in that time? Of course not. I’ll be the first to admit many of the shameful and stupid things done. But to pretend Britain or any other Western power would have done differently is puke-makingly sanctimonious.
“I think US foreign policy is the absolute antithesis of altruism.”
Again, “Jay,” I’m not about to defend everything the US has done—but another gross overstatement, once again, from you. Tell what I just quoted from you to Latin American, African and Asian countries to whom America gave billions in aid to over the years–tell it to those who benefited from American aid for food, infrastructure, and other essentials–more money than any other country has ever given in history. Tell it those who benefited from staunch US opposition to the spread of totalitarianism—to those who flocked here as refugees from oppression over the decades.
And yes, I know there’s many instances where the US also acted in its own interests, kept dictators in power or put them in power, and made a mess of things the world over. But we’ve tried to do good where we can, and I would argue more than any other country has done. In any case, to state that our foreign policy is exactly the opposite of altruism is a disgusting and shameful bit of childish cant. Good and bad, we’ve done it—but you paint the US as a monster that’s done the world only harm, and that’s just outrageous.
You know, “Jay,” it was a BRITISH foreign service expert who once said, “America makes a lot of mistakes at the start, but we can trust them in the end to almost always do the right thing.”
November 29th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
Winton Churchill: “You can always count on Americans to do the right thing—after they’ve tried everything else.”
November 29th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Useless:
If it was Churchill, then someone else was quoting *him,* and paraphrasing. I distinctly remember it was someone in foreign service who said it.
Thanks though.
November 30th, 2007 at 4:30 am
Randall: “And I’ll caution you about lecturing me on the sacrifices made in that war, “Jay.”….don’t high horse me, sir.”
Wow Randall, thanks for the caution, I’ll be sure to watch what I type in the future.
From the small faeces, sorry, thesis, that you just wrote I assume I touched a nerve. Get over it. I thought the US was pro freedom of speech? And it isn’t me who is the one lecturing in a pompous and patronising tone. I’m not the one who needs to climb down from his horse here…
Anyway, I’m taking sdggrant’s advice and just going to walk away from this one. Congratulations, you bored me to defeat with borrowed kudos from your family’s contribution to the War and an unfaltering sense that you couldn’t ever possibly be wrong.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:44 am
Jay:
Good for you, you realized I’m never wrong.
You can call it “boredom” and toss adolescent insults my way, but what’s clear is, you have no intellectual response to what I said.
Grow up, pal.
And yup, there sure is freedom of speech in the US… yup, you betchya. But informed opinions are better than moronic knee-jerk ones that have no logic or facts to support them.
December 1st, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Nice to see that Denmark isn’t mentioned in the alcohol section. Heh.
Oohhh… I almost forgot. Patriotism depicted as blind fanatacism through the media(I think I am unlucky to bump into all of those clips on youtube) vs. torching cars and riots because of government screw-ups might be worth mentioning.
No bones to pick, just saying…
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:18 am
Randall: If I was out of work and with nothing better to do I may have replied to your small novel. Fortunately I do have better things to do.
I like America as a country and it’s people, but One question Randall: Why is America the most despised country worldwide?
Because of it’s foreign policy. Plain and simple. The American citizens are not to blame, but it’s people like you saying “we’re not the only ones who have done it..” just serves to upset people even more.
For someone who purports to having a strong sense of history and facts, your logic is seriously unsound.
December 3rd, 2007 at 7:00 am
Jay:
“If I was out of work and with nothing better to do I may have replied to your small novel. Fortunately I do have better things to do.”
That’s a transparent excuse. If you had anything with which to dispute my points, you would have used it.
Yes, it was a long post. Sometimes the truth takes longer than ridiculous lies, distortions, and cant. Particularly when truth has to refute such things.
Now, since you have no argument with which to challenge me, you bring up America’s current unpopularity in the world, as though I had ever denied that this was the case, and act as if you’re making some kind of “point”.
A) I never said America has done the right thing all the time. YOU were ranting about how terrible it has acted, going way overboard with outright untruths, distortions, and cant (as noted above). *I* was challenging your overblown statements—I was NOT challenging and do NOT challenge America’s most-hated-nation status in the world right now.
B) the reason people are upset “even more” by statements such as “we’re not the only ones who have done it…” is because many of them are from countries THAT HAVE DONE THE SAME THINGS and even did WORSE. And no one likes to have to face their own dark secrets and skeletons. As I noted, I find it particularly odious when Brits and former Brits, such as yourself, take this stand. Brits sometimes like to pat themselves on the back because, as imperialistic colonizers, they treated their subjects a tad better than the French and the Spanish and Germans and the Dutch. Yippee. You were “kindlier taskmasters.” The hypocrisy sickens me. Now, in point of fact, I even agree with the sentiment a bit–it’s true, Britain left behind, for the most part, colonies in better shape than the French left, for instance. But it doesn’t change the fact that the British Empire, *like all empires,* was built on exploitation, injustice, lies and rapaciousness.
I don’t mind Brits or anyone else in the world coming after us, as Americans, for our mistakes and misbehaviors. But DON’T give it to me with the over-the-top moralizing cant that you used in your original posting. Realize that YOU, Jay, as a Brit, come from a LONG line of people yourself—who, yes, did good things, but also did TERRIBLE things… so stop and remember that before you dictate morals to me, as an American. I don’t mind if you do it, and you have every right—but have enough class, intelligence, and bravery to do it with an even hand—show some intellectual honesty and a command of the truth—rather than spewing propagandistic nonsense to me.
I’m ashamed of many things my country has done, and I’m ashamed of and detest George Bush and his cohorts and supporters. But this does not then make it okay to throw the truth totally out the window and talk like a jackass, as you have done.
December 4th, 2007 at 10:05 am
Another difference between Europe and America:
- Europeans can buy adult toys like vibrators in vending machines in pubs and even hair salons. Don’t believe it? Check this out: http://www.tabooboo.com/vendingmachines.html
- Americans in some states aren’t even allowed to own a vibrator. They are forced to shop in privacy online. http://www.theadulttoyshoppe.com
Complete opposites!
December 10th, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Unlike most Americans I like Europe. In fact I’ve been to several different European countries and to help my fellow Americans understand our friends across the pond let’s dispel some myths and set some stories straight.
Europeans don’t bathe. True in some places, i.e. most of Europe, but not always true. The smell could just be the goat’s ass they ate for lunch. Scandinavians bathe all the time, what else are they going to do? The English for some reason are nuts about bathing their feet. Why I don’t know.
Europeans have a different word for everything. False. If it was invented in the last 120 years or is useful to any hominid that walks on two legs, the word will usually be the same as ours. They may say it all funny – but they just do that to be difficult. Think of Inspector Clouseau asking to use a “phoenne”.
They have a proud heritage and ancient traditions. True and false, depends. In Greece they are very proud of Periclean Athens but are ashamed to have been ruled by the Turk for almost 400 years, which represents the last time they had an effective government. In truth by now most Greek culture is Turkish, but don’t point that out to them it pisses them of like you wouldn’t believe. In France everyone you talk to had parents or grandparents who were in the “resistance”. I think the only thing the French ever resisted was hygiene and political restraint. Most collaborated with the Nazis so feverently their lips still conform to Nazi rectums. Vichy bastards. Make no mistake the only Europeans who were on the right side during WWII were the Brits, Poles and sometime the Italians when they tried to “help” the Germans. Having the Italian Army on your side during a shooting war is like seeing Hillary Clinton naked – it’s not often done and for good reason.
British food is horrible. Not true. You can find good East Indian food almost everywhere in Britain. Actual British food for the most part can not be eaten unless there is a money wager involved. Yorkshire Pudding is NOT pudding but Blood Sausage is exactly that – you have been warned. With that said there are more Five Star restaurants in London than Paris if eating pancreas and God knows what else is your thing. The Brits are among the best foreigners you will meet mostly because they speak English and because they are polite, maybe too polite judging by recent events. British Policeman, aka Bobbies look harmless enough because they don’t carry guns but don’t screw with them. I think there is a lot of paperwork herein the U.S. if a cop shoots somebody but the Bobbies don’t have to fill out shit if they pound the crap out of you with their billy clubs. Ask yourself this question; who were we limiting with our Bill of Rights? If you see Tinkers in Britain or Ireland stay away from them, they’re no damn good. The same is true of Albanians in Greece, Gypsies in Eastern Europe, and Arabs in France.
The British have bad teeth. True. But so do the Irish and everyone in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union. Germans have nice teeth but they rarely smile and when they do you should be very concerned particularly if you are Jewish, Catholic, Roma, a trade unionist or gay. I’ve come to believe that tea-drinking cultures have really bad teeth.
The women in Spain are the best looking in Europe. True. Look at them while you can because their Salafi – Wahhabi masters will have them all wearing burkas before too long. There was a time when less then a hundred Spanish soldiers conquered one of the largest and most blood thirsty and repressive empires in human history.
The only thing on time in Spain are the BullFights. True. Be sure to drag that annoying PETA friend with you to the Corrida. Tell him/her that you saw the bull before in the countryside, sitting peacefully under a tree and he was crying. Give the bull a name too, something endearing. You might mention that the Matador beats his wife and kids too, just to see if you can goad the PETArd into intervening on behalf of the bull. I can tell you there are few things as amusing as watching 3000 drunken Spaniards beating the dog shit out of some English speaking PETArd. Oddly enough there is profound religious and cultural symbolism and prehistoric precedent in bullfighting, so the Spanish have little tolerance for the “Morrisey Meat is Murder” crowd.
December 10th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
el duderino – I agree with almost all that you have said
Nicely done.
December 11th, 2007 at 1:53 am
Jamye,
here in the USA you can never tell when a woman has used a vibrator. In Europe they’re much more open about it, which probably explains all the women walking around with chipped teeth.
December 11th, 2007 at 2:00 am
el duderino: hahah
December 11th, 2007 at 4:52 am
-J- You really don’t want to waste your irreplaceable youth in a loveless marriage just to get a green card. My best friend is from Germany, Her American husband quit work a month after the wedding and lives off of her pay. He spends most of his hours trolling the web for desperate women. She will not/ can not divorce him now she only has 1 year left before she is granted duel citizenship. I would start if you want to check out the USA by getting a student visa and maybe see that we aren’t all that different we are all just trying to have our needs met
Randall: As always very entertaining.
December 11th, 2007 at 7:07 am
Clues: I will just enter the lottery like everyone else
It would certainly make it easier for me to keep up with the comments on the site if I was in the US.
December 11th, 2007 at 7:34 am
el duderino: theres actually waaaay too much paperwork to do with the police these days in the UK. It’s something they’re trying to cut down on so they can get more police on the streets.
Apart from that, pretty accurate!
I especially loved your ‘PETArded’. I dont think I’ve ever seen a better way to describe them!
December 11th, 2007 at 8:34 am
Speaking of Petarded – I was doing some Christmas shopping last week at Harrods and there was a huge anti-fur protest – you could tell by the way that they were all dressed that none had jobs and were probably just protesting for something to do.
December 11th, 2007 at 8:41 am
jfrater: hahaha that sounds like PETA all right! They should try creating a list website instead
December 12th, 2007 at 12:03 pm
Hmm…I suggest moving to Ohio. They seem to like me well enough here, bad teeth and all! But let’s face it: there are nice Americans and mean Americans, just like their are nice Europeans and mean Europeans. It’s the same everywhere, and as a person who grew up in the UK and moved to the States, I love both of my homes equally, and for different reasons.
The “u” thing bothers me, though. I don’t know why Americans hate the “u” so much!
December 12th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
kittym: Ohio is a wonderful place, trust me I know. We have such a variety it is hard not to like.
January 24th, 2008 at 4:01 am
No offense but I find the American accent slightly annoying at times, and is it just me, or do they also talk louder?
I love English and Scottish accents, I think they sound wonderful!
I’m from New Zealand which was first discovered by the British etc etc (Like South Africa which someone posted about above me) so we have more similarities to Britain than the US, e.g. driving on the left side of the road, etc.
Someone also mentioned the rivalry between New Zealand and Australia. That would make a good list, but the two countries are actually very similar in a lot of ways, although at times we refuse to acknowledge that. Its usually things such as the accent difference that separate us. (A popular example is, Aussies say ‘FEESH and CHEPS’ instead of just Fish and Chips how us Kiwis say it. They think we say ‘FOSH and CHOPS’ which they are greatly mistaken in!
Anyway I’ll finish waffling on about something not really related to this list….
January 24th, 2008 at 4:36 am
Justine: When you visit America the American accent is not grating – I think it just appears loud because New Zealanders are softly spoken and Americans are more assertive in their speech. The English find the same thing because they are softly spoken as well.
January 24th, 2008 at 5:02 am
Justine: Americans do talk louder; I am American, and my British friends have commented that I speak more quietly since moving over. And I was not one of the loud ones to begin with!
I think the American accent is clean, if it’s the pure generic accent like you hear on TV. What amazes me though, is this: why do Brits/Aussies/etc sound American when they sing? What happens to their accents?!
January 24th, 2008 at 5:42 am
Shaunism: you should listen to all the indie bands around britain now, pretty much all of the sing with their accents, especially the likes of Kaiser Cheifs and Scouting for Girls.
January 28th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
Cars drive on the left hand side of the road in Ireland also.
February 1st, 2008 at 5:28 pm
americans do not speak louder & i’m american. like jfratter said. british people are more softly spoken. americans can’t help it like british can’t help their accent, which i find amusing & very sexy!
it’s true that you have to live in the midwest or west states to really know what the US is like.
overall, i think england & the US are very much alike.
February 13th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Im sorrry. But I am infureated by this list. YES,i realize that America is not perfect and we have are flaws, but it is very pompous of you to say such things. Why the @*$% do u hate America so much????
February 15th, 2008 at 8:46 am
I hope you realise that not all European countries are a part of the European Union..
And besides.. this list should rather be called “The difference between England and USA..with some other selected countries”
February 17th, 2008 at 11:01 am
I’m currently throwing myself down the stairs so I can be hospitalised and treated for free. I love the NHS
March 8th, 2008 at 9:45 am
This isn’t a comparison as much as it is a thinly veiled anti-American rant. Try to keep your bigoted snobbery to yourself next time.
March 8th, 2008 at 10:01 am
188. Naneam – it pays to read preceding comments
43. StewWriter
60. StewWriter
82. jfrater
121. rp
122. StewWriter
just a few to provide context. including who wrote this list and his intent. and J’s ‘editing’.
even when a list has 100’s of comments it behooves commenters to at least scan them or preface their comment (as so many smartly do now) ‘i’ve not read all the comments but ….’
otherwise you might lose whatever point you were trying to make by coming off looking ill informed..at the very least.
March 12th, 2008 at 11:54 am
when it comes to sports here in europe it is close to religion, mock the team of a hooligan and you are certained a visit to the hospital.
but what you said about american footbal: “watching them beat the snot out of their opponents.” this is false, american footbal players wear so much padding that you barely see anything. its just the wimp-version of rugby.
and nascar, why do you guys even watch that? i couldnt think of a more predictable sport even if my life depended on it, cars going around in a circle for 5 hours! how is that entertaining? comercials must be an enjoyable break from that.
not to mention that the cars are usually nastylooking, filled with stickers and they are stock..
March 13th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
I actually think the only difference between America and Europe in terms of drinking is that America is slightly more leaned towards the beer side… I’m an Aussie currently living in France, and i think every country is completely different, French people don’t tend to drink a whole heap, but when we went to Munich, we had beer pushed at us everywhere we went… And in Australia, it was considered un-australian if you weren’t drunk before midday, so the laws stating you can’t buy before then, well that just sucks for you…
March 18th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
^Bowden, you know as well as I do that is only applicable in rural areas.
“food chains are not as popular in placed like France and Italy as they”
“in Europe, the four main spectator sports are Football (soccer), Cricket, Rugby”
That should be re-written to read “are soccer (football), cricket, etc”
May 20th, 2008 at 10:50 am
I am German, I was raised in Germany, and I am proud to be one. I know we are part of the EU, but (like many other “Europeans”, I would guess) I do not feel like a European. We all have different cultures, different backgrounds, and, above all, most of us do not like the others very much. The Dutch (for example) do not like us, as we have never liked them. Now… to correct some errors of your list. (I have lived in the United States too, for a number of years and have been in most American states and European nations). First of all, Sports. Yes. We have been known to get a “little” angry from time to time, but its all in good fun. If someone gets hurt he usually had it coming. Provocation of a soccer fan is NOT a good idea. Alcohol. It is readily available for most everyone. While Americans make a big fuss of drinking, Europeans(or at least Germans) do not feel like they have to hide it, or even protect their children from it. There are quite many more errors in the list and in the comments and if I have the time I shall write a second post outlining and correcting these.
May 27th, 2008 at 3:19 am
Ok i’m going to be a nit-picker….
It is not just England who have the better healthcare system. Scotland and Wales too enjoy a better system, adding up to the UK having a better system. Although we are devolved powers, we are still have similar systems and laws to Westminster.
July 1st, 2008 at 9:35 pm
This was actually a very entertaining list thank you though I would like to add some observations of my own if such is welcome
First and foremost I am British and spent much of my childhood in the rural areas of England but have enjoyed the privelage of visiting many places, one of which is the USA (Though I have only visited 3 states thus far which I hope to amend soon)
I strongly dislike the stereotypes placed on Americans; admittedly I myself have taken part in jokes regarding such stereotypes but generally with friends who are evidently aware of the invalidity of such concepts. I know and have met many Americans and, though there shall obviously be idiots in all places that one visits, the vast majority of these people have been wonderfully friendly and kind, Americans really seem to want to make a good impression on visitors of their country and do so with great success. Something I have found in the European countries I have visited (Including the UK which I have travelled and lived within as I previously mentioned) is that though people can be friendly and polite generally you feel as though this person is a kind stranger whereas in the US many frequently give the sense of being a potential friend.
A concept I found to be hugely present in US culture in comparison to most European cultures is religion. While many European societies began secularising quite some time ago upon entering even the most lonesome appearing of US diners one is often presented with an array of Christian and/or Jewish (as tend to be the most common) regalia. Alongside this people generally appear to take religion far more seriously and consider it a closely held belief for themselves and as a tool to cause solidarity within their communities whereas this is not present in any European country I have been to thus far (Though I understand religion is a largely important aspect of life in certain areas of Germany and Turkey).
With regards to the “American loudness” debate I would agree with the “soft/hard spoken” hypothesis to some extent but I also believe, due to their strong sociological history of freedom fighting, Americans are encouraged from a young age to voice their opinions openly which can sometimes be miscontrued for arrogance or ignorance when it is simply an ideological difference. Frankly sometimes I wish it were similar in many other places, using the UK for an example (My apologies for the constant use of this comparison but it is the area that I have spent the largest period of my life within) if you wish to debate something it is almost as though you must firstly arrange a date and time, put the kettle on for anyone who wants tea when they arrive, set the table, place some snacks in the middle then have a nice polite debate whereas in the US you can simply stand on the nearest soup box and get on with it (Not literally standing on a soup box of coarse…Unless you really want to) though saying this such a phenomenon may be restricted to the UK and only a few other particular areas of Europe as I am well aware and have first hand experience of both the French and Italian’s raw confidence (Though this is more in the manner in which the populations of these societies behave than how they express their opinions).
The Author’s final statement is very astute; general life in differing cultures is different in so many ways and to varying degrees but sometimes one requires to be particularly perceptive to spot some of the more subtle patterns. A more easily notable cultural difference however is clothing.
As a concluding statement I will never quite understand why in this endlessly curiosity inspiring world why the US has such a high drinking age. It always occurred to me as merely creating a “forbidden fruit” problem but I suppose each society has it’s own reasons and justifications for such things, perhaps relating to the strong religious presence in the US, one cannot be certain.
Regardless I shall discontinue rambling sorry, I just found this list quite interesting thank you
July 18th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Mostly watched sports in Europe are NOT cricket and rugby, that’s just the British people. We mostly watch soccer and tennis as you pointed out but also cycling and racing (either formula one or motorcross). Also, I’ve never seen anyone giving their children wine during dinner, not even watered down. It’s true that you can fairly easily buy alcohol (In Belgium the age for drinking anything is 16 but no one ‘ll ask you your ID -yay!!-) and children can nip on occasion of an alcoholic beverage, but giving them wine to drink during dinner? no.
July 22nd, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Sorry everybody. All this back and forth nonsense about Europe, the U.K., and The Neo-Conservative/nature friendly/fat/open minded/liberal/friendly United States is pointless!!! You just watch. For better or worse China’s gonna win it all. Oh! And are you ready for this one? This will really set some fool off- they are smarter and they work harder than all of us. How about that? Hmmm? Someone will definitely spend at least fifteen minutes spouting pure hatred over that one.
July 22nd, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Mr.Awful: I think a lot of people would probably agree with you
August 25th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
you get all the material in the world and you can’t make a funny list. Can a european make this list please, it would be so much funnier.
September 11th, 2008 at 8:11 am
Just out of curiosity jfrater, where are you from?
and Nially Bob – the dutch are probably the most outspoken and forthright in Europe when it comes to personal views and popular topics such as religion etc., they don’t mind telling you exactly what they think.
November 2nd, 2008 at 2:12 pm
erm actually Annunnakike I think that does happen. I live in Europe and my parents often offered me wine for dinner – even just a sip and I know most of my friends were the same. (And none of us turned out to be alcoholics btw.) Also, I find it hilarious that Americans can’t drink until they’re 21, and yet they can drive at 16…don’t have time to list all the reasons though
November 27th, 2008 at 2:19 am
Well, I am a born and bred British citizen and I have to say that I am not offended by this list but like the author has already stated, it was meant to be slightly funny.
Firstly I just wanted to clear up the notion that all British/Europeans or whoever have bad teeth, well, I would have to strongly disagree with you. We Dont.
There are many things that I love about where I am from (bearing in mind that I am of Pakistani origin but was born and bred in the Uk and I wouldnt know or want any different, for me this country and the countries that surround us (ie Europe) are wonderful but going back to the UK, we have the NHS, which a lot of people can mock but has helped many a person in thier lifetime. At least turning up to the hospital in the dead of the night and injured, we wont get turned away or whatever because we dont have insurance. The biggest fault I think is that we dont appreciate what we have.
with regards to Nr. 5: We are made to learn a different language in school, it is compulsary in fact, I myself having learnt French. There are many, many options, some being.. German, Spanish, Gujarati, PunjaBI, Urdu, French… You pick whichever one you want and in the first three years of high school (ages 12-14) you have to learn 2 different languages.
I love that speak grammatically correct English and when an American does not understand me or the words, they will ask me to speak English.. it has actually happened.
The same way that Americans (or USA citizens, however you want to put it) view what Europeans are like, be under no illusion that we think excatly the same about you. But places like this help you learn and displace ignorance but that is if you are able to open your mind and shut the mouth just for little while to listen and not voice your opinions ALL THE TIME!!!!
Lastly, the British (and yes, I am being specific to the British) have got the BEST sense of humour in the world. It is called sarcasm, as some of you may have spotted earlier on in the passage. As they say Sarcasm may be the lowest form or humour but it is the highest form of wit.
December 15th, 2008 at 10:05 am
it’s really great
December 16th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
I finally got through reading all of the comments! I would have loved to had read the original though… anyone care to send it to me?
December 19th, 2008 at 5:33 am
The person that wrote this text clearly never been to europe, besides from England maybe?
Anyways, most of the things i read about Europe is not even close to the truth, so im sure a lot of the stuff about America is bullshit aswell.
By the way, Holland and Scandinavia, we dont have to learn 2 languages, we have to learn 5. while many people learn a additional 1 or 2 more.
January 4th, 2009 at 8:37 am
The government item is terribly terribly wrong on the EU system. The Parliament is almost entirely powerless. EU Law is initiated by a permanent civil service called The Commission (usually with a good deal of lobyist and national government input), and enacted by The Council, which is the final authority and is made up of government ministers of the member states. The Parliament does get a say, but it is largely for show – there are dissident members, but as a body it is less independent than, say, the Russian Duma.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
No mention of cars?? I would say car, or automobiles in America, is one of the biggest difference between us…American cars last 6 or 7 years…us Europeans have cars for 20 years or so…and American cars cant go round corners. European cars can’t go in a stright line.
January 14th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Fastest production car in the world is european…European cars CAN go in a straight line…very quickly indeed
January 16th, 2009 at 7:09 am
European food is bad and that’s why they eat small portions? Who are you kidding?
Europe has a food style developed over centuries. Instead, the North American diet, encouraged by fast food chains, has led to obese population and disease.
And why doesn’t the author mention healthcare, education (just take a look at high school math done in some European countries!), and the plain ignorance of many Americans?
January 16th, 2009 at 9:24 am
cymraegbachgen87, a quick glance on wikipedia will show you the fastest production car is American. And I would say overall American cars are fastest then European cars in a straight line.
January 19th, 2009 at 1:49 am
At JP:
That same list also shows that this is the first one (American) since records began back in the 1901!!! All others listed are European!
January 26th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
oh gosh… here are a bunch of individuals defending an entire population, which usually never works due to the fact that we are all just individuals. Of course, there’s no other way to do it. But anyway, I’ll weigh in on the topic as an outsider (non-european and non-american).
One thing i’ve noticed is that people seemed to get upset by what was listed in a way that showed that they preferred a certain moral code over the other. In majority, that was the Americans thinking they were being bashed by the author in favour of Europeans. Sure, the author probably made a light-hearted list based on stereotypes… but in the end, stereotypes are rooted from the general actions of the populace themselves.
It pains me when someone defends the integrity of their nation from a bad stereotype… but in the process, stereotypes a segment of their population too.
February 25th, 2009 at 4:54 am
First it seems like ur only comparing USA to UK, instead of the rest of Europe as well, and second cuz of that, u say a lot of mistakes, cricket isnt a popular sport in Europe for christ sake ! it is in UK but not in the rest of the countries, countries such as Portugal, Italy, France, Spain, Switzerland etc.. live a lot Roller Hockey and Nordic countries love HandBall, and the mediterranean countries (Portugal, Spain and Italy), are fans of Futsal(indoor 5 aside football)…
Now the food, if u go to Portugal or spain i guarantee u, u will have a plate with salad with the rest of the food, the part that we Europeans like to have a dinner in family is true, not so true for British, cuz they go for fast food nowadays, they must be the fatest country in Europe too…
February 25th, 2009 at 5:02 am
And i almost forgot bout the languages, theres countries where u learn more than 2 languages, but that doesnt mean necessarily that the extra language will be english, for example in the case of Poland ive heard from Poilsh friends they learn mostly German in school, in Portugal u can learn french, spanish, latin and German as well but mostly go for English obviously …
For example in switzerland its spoken French, German and Italian and rarely someone can speak english, in the eastern Europe apart from their own language i think they also learn russian or can speak it, not sure thou, and in spain if u go to spain their ego is so big that they mainly only speak their languages that they have in their country wich are: Castilian * Catalan * Galician(really similar to portuguese)
just a few can speak english …
February 25th, 2009 at 6:44 am
JP, ok didnt know that the bugatti had been overtaken! But if you look at the history of fastest production cars it is european DOMINATED. Mercedes (german) Ferrari (Italian) Lamborghinis (Italian) Porsches (German again) Koenigsegg (sweden) Jaguar (british) Bentleys (British) Zonda (Italian). Indeed the SSC Ultimate Aero TT is the one of the only american cars (If not the only) on there in the last. Add into the mix all of these cars can corner too and american automobiles are left standing. True the Ford GT is a piece of automobile excellence, but it is an exception rather than a rule. European cars are far superior to americans. Every petrol head knows that.
February 25th, 2009 at 6:45 am
Indeed, it can be argued that the japanese make better cars than americans.
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
I have two thing to say:
1. If by America you meant USA, then comparing a country with a whole continent is silly, especially when it comes to languages…
2. If by America you meant the whole continent, then the list is seriously wrong.
Bonus point: Yes, I am from a Latin American country.
March 24th, 2009 at 3:47 am
cymraegbachgen87: Of course the Japs make better cars than the Americans, the American cars are the worse in the world but American’s are so ignorant that they believe what ever comes from America is the best in the world. This is far from true. The Japanese car manufacturers (Honda, Toyota, Nissan etc) make the most reliable cars to this day. Jap cars are famous for their reliability.
I do agree that German cars are also excellent, but they haven’t got a scratch on a Jap car. For example, the Honda “Type-R” engine has been produced in millions of cars and do you know how many have ever had a mechanical malfunction? None. Fact.
I wouldn’t really class the UK as European, yes they may be in the same continent, but there are so many differences. As for UK food, this is excellent. English breakfasts, Sunday dinners etc. I am very proud British as you can tell!
What about SAS vs Delta Force? We all know which one is better.
April 4th, 2009 at 5:23 am
I am Dutch, and I’ve visited the USA, and thus I have something to add on this matter…
Something else I noticed is that Americans are generally much more polite than Europeans (or at least Dutch people). I can’t account for all the US, since I’ve only been to the south. But whenever I entered a restaurant or something, we were welcomed. The waiters and waitresses were kind and looked happy. I know they need the tip, so they’ll act happy even if they aren’t just to get the tip, but still. Here in the Netherlands, many waiters and other people in public functions are not like that at all. Are you moody? Who cares that the customers can’t help it, we’ll just be rude to them!
… That’s what I noticed, anyway.
And (please don’t take this as an offense), Americans often have double morals. I don’t think anyone understands this, so I’ll explain.
I was with a group of teenage boys and girls in the US, both American and Dutch. I noticed that the girls are definitely not as good as they appear to be. Dutch people (though I think it’s more specifically Dutch than European, it might still apply for other nationalities) are much more straight-forward. They’ll tell you what happened and they won’t pretend.
This list actually made me proud of being Dutch! Though I wouldn’t mind at all to live in the USA…
April 4th, 2009 at 5:26 am
oh, and one more thing:
I completely agree with the languages thing. You learn different languages in the USA, too, I know, but in Europe it’s much more necessary than in the USA. Again, I’m Dutch, and at school I have so far learnt (or am learning) English, Dutch (obviously), French, German, Ancient Greek and Latin. I’ve dropped Germany, but otherwise I still have all other languages. I actually think this is a really good thing about the Dutch (and European) system of education. I just wish I’d had the chance to have Spanish as well…
April 12th, 2009 at 7:04 am
btw,
as an american it suprised me how freedom and democracy went to a different level, the europeans just seem smarter warmer and more civilised.
LONG LIVE EUROPE, UNITED IN DIVERSITY
April 12th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
I thought this list is going to compare Europe with the Americas or at least North America. It’s ridiculous to compare a country with an entire continent.
This post should note that the culture, politics etc of the New World (pretty much everything) are based on those of Western Europe, mainly the UK – that’s why USA is managing grow with Europe.
April 12th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
9. “In some cases these American spin offs have become more popular than the originals” – stress, IN USA.
April 12th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
4. Note that Europeans doesn’t need cheerleaders, band, half-time performances etc to entertain the crowd – the sport is entertaining itself. Plus, less body amor worn by the players.
April 12th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
£ – “England is the one with the worst reputation for food – it is expensive and usually bad” – bad what? In taste? Can’t be since a whole nation in general thinks it’s tasty. English food is generally unhealthy though, like the continental food eaten in USA (but with less additives).
April 14th, 2009 at 1:44 am
I’d like to add something to this matter, as I have been living in the US for quite a while now (I am from Europe – specifically, Serbia).
My dear Americans, don’t get me wrong and please do not find this insulting. It is not my intention to offend you in any way.
The main problem Americans have is that majority of them think “the way we do it is right, and if someone else does it differently, that’s wrong”. Trivial example: “the heating system in our houses is better than the European, and there is no way European could be better”. Not only European, but Japanese, Russian, Chinese etc. also.
I don’t blame you – you have been pretty much isolationist throughout your history. You have not been presented with European ideas as much, while Europeans learnt about US ideas and adopted the good ones (e.g. we in Europe see many American movies. How many European movies have you seen? No, it’s not because the EU movie industry is bad. It’s not).
There is also the difference in educational system. Honestly, I believe that US education system (at least K-12) is horrible, to be modest. In Serbia, in 9th grade, I had 16 subjects, including Logics, Philosophy, Advanced Physics, Geography, Latin, German, English etc etc and they are all really, really hard. However, as a result of my Geography class, I now know all the countries on the world, and can point them on the map. We even had to learn all capitals of all countries on the world, but I forgot half of it
That creates ignorance. It is not your fault that the majority of you do not realize that there is a country named Burkina Faso and that the capital is Uagadugu.
“Why is that important?” – you may ask yourself. Truly, will you use that knowledge? Probably not. Will you apply that knowledge at the place where you work at? Probably not. But, that makes you smart, aware of the other people and the world. And it’s not all about work, you know
April 14th, 2009 at 11:12 am
This site is just too good! – I am a second yeat aerospace engineering student and have maths exam in 2 weeks and I still cant get off this site….
ARGHHH…
April 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
My rooms have a switch by each door, or by the door and near the bed, both or all switches control the same lamp, usually situated in the ceiling. If I turn on the ligts by one door, and turn it off again by another, the on/off position of the first switch has changed.
Am I European or American? Hah!
May 3rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
The name of this section is not politically correct. America is far larger that the US of A. In the rest of the continent (I’m from Chile) that is clearly understood. Maybe the problem is that “United States of America” is not really a name (as is Canada, Mexico, Brazil or Chile) but just a description.
May 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Correvientos: I don’t like political correctness. Having said that, everyone knows what the title means so there is no confusion. No one is going to read it and wonder why it doesn’t compare Chile to France. Furthermore, we would use the term “The Americas” to refer to the various nations of the continents of the new world.
May 3rd, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Lets leave the discussion about political correction to a different forum. Having said that, of course everyone may understand the title of this interesting list. What I discuss is that the United Statians have expropiated the name of our continent just for them. I lived in the US for several years and I do admire many aspects of their culture but I resent the lack of respect they show for other peoples and their culture including their names
May 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Correvientos: umm – how about the fact that you are basically saying that people from the US have no right to the name “America” but you do? Isn’t that a little racist?
May 4th, 2009 at 7:55 am
To borrow from a certain hit musical:
Everyone’s a little bit racist sometimes.
Gotta love Avenue Q
May 4th, 2009 at 7:57 am
“I resent the lack of respect they show for other peoples and their culture including their names”
Don’t resent it, pity it.
Just like I pity americans for not having a rich heritage that pervades their culture, unlike the old world. They think a 60 year old building is old!
May 4th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Looks like neither the writer or most of the commentors know nothing about Europe.
May 4th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
European, you obviously know little about correct grammar. I believe you meant to say:
“Looks like neither the writer or most of the commentors know nothing ANYTHING about Europe”
Fail.
May 4th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
@cymraegbachgen87 : him having problems with grammar is the indication that he knows another language, in addition to English, a quality that you probably cannot be proud of (no offense).
Also, the term is not “correct grammar”. It’s “proper grammar”.
May 4th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Allright a grammer war.
May 4th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Really? a grammar war? Yay!
237. Bo – “him having problems with grammar is the indication that he knows another language”
Were you talking about European or yourself? This statement has some pretty crappy grammar as well, haha. It would be better written as: “The fact that he has problems with grammar is indicative of knowing another language in addition to English.”
I’d actually remove even more of your personality and take rewrite the entire ending as “…indicative of knowing English as well as another language.” I’d also take out the “(no offense)” because the statement was meant to be offensive. It’s redundant when “a quality that you probably cannot be proud of” already conveys a sufficient amount of offense.
TBH, those who are fluent in English when it is their second language have a better grasp of the language than native speakers. They formally learn grammar and syntax prior to speaking the language so they do not compromise it for the sake of common lexicon.
And cym, you forgot the period after “Europe”.
FAIL.

carry on…
Re: heritage and culture
Perhaps when I have more time to commit to LV again, I’ll lecture about this but shorthand of the situation: Europe places an emphasis on age (particularly of their cities and buildings) while Americans place an emphasis on natural beauty and the rugged outdoors (no smart remarks about corporate pollution…that’s another bedtime story, kids). It was a difference the newly liberated American patriots stressed upon to set the New World apart from the Old. Merely another tactic to increase nationalism and given the amount of land reserved as national parks in the US compared to that of Europe, I’d say the tactic was a success. But imo, Canada seems to be doing a better job maintaining their natural beauties. All of you should really take an art history class or two…I learned all of this from those classes!
May 4th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
BIGSKI:
SHOULDN`T IT BE “GRAMMAR”? English is my second language so I should be “enlightened”. Please clear this up for me.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
@gabi319: I apologize if my “bad” grammar has offended you in any way. To tell you the truth, I speak 10 languages fluently, and sometimes it is really hard to “keep track of all of them”.
May 5th, 2009 at 5:27 am
Gabi! Long time no post! I enjoy grammar wars. This Bo idiot is amusing. Dont you love people who pretend the reason they make mistakes is because they are super intelligent, rather than mere fallibilty like the rest of us. Obviously these ten langauges bo knows have eroded his brain. I particularly like the assumption that I do not know another language. He hasnt taken into account my screename then; welsh probably isnt one of his ten languages
Bo, when you assume, you make an ASS out of U and Me. Particularly U.
I am reasonably fluent in German and French, quite good at American, learning Australian, very good at English and reasonable at Welsh. I am also fluent in BS, sarcasm and working my way up through jargon. That makes 9 – one off yours :p (Before someone points it out, yes I know some of them are the same, and some are made up)
I agree with gabi, bo. Your post should read either “It is AN indication” or “It is indicative”
Correct grammar is correct btw. As is proper grammar. Synonyms, heard of them?
(Yes I realise that the above final paragraph was a fragment and therefore gramatically incorrect.)
May 5th, 2009 at 5:36 am
242. cymraegbachgen87 : “…learning Australian…”
Wanna go grab a stubby, pull up a stump and watch the footy? Maybe grab a 4′n’20 at halftime, go out back and have a durrie?
I must admit that it’s a bit late for this young lad to be recalling all his good old Aussie slang. I’m sure we could have a much more interesting conversation once I’m through with all of my assigments
May 5th, 2009 at 5:41 am
Eww. My grammar in that last post was POOR. NM
May 5th, 2009 at 5:42 am
ooo…didnt know stubby. I was using tinnie mate. 4′n’20?
In the worlds of an IMMORTAL comedy show :
Que?
May 5th, 2009 at 5:46 am
245. cymraegbachgen87 : “…ooo…didnt know stubby. I was using tinnie mate…”
Might be a regional thing. Here in Queensland – aka God’s country – I find stubby to be much more common. I can’t speak for other regions however, being only an inexperienced youngin.
“…4′n’20?…”
http://www.fourntwenty.com.au/
The answer to life, the universe and everything (Close enough to 42 for me, and they’re bloody beauties!)
May 5th, 2009 at 5:54 am
QueensLAND?
Mark, its ALL the queens land.
All together now….God Save our Gracious Queen, Long live our noble queen (join in any time mark) God save our queen. NernernernerNERRRRRRRR SEND HER VICTORIOUS….
Worst. Anthem. Ever.
May 5th, 2009 at 5:57 am
247. cymraegbachgen87 : *facepalm*….
May 5th, 2009 at 10:39 am
241. Bo – @gabi319: I apologize if my “bad” grammar has offended you in any way. To tell you the truth, I speak 10 languages fluently, and sometimes it is really hard to “keep track of all of them”.
Quotations or inverted commas are meant to either copy another person’s statement or to imply a sarcastic remark. the ‘…my “bad” grammar…” was done correctly, but what are you implying with ‘…”keep track of all of them”….’? Give it up, Bo. You provoked a grammar war even though you foolishly provide way too much ammunition for the opposing side. But congratulations on writing a comment that physically compelled me to roll my eyes. That hasn’t happened in a long time. While we’re on the conversational path of inane boastings, I can tell the difference between Blue-Green and Green-Blue. You are welcome for that exchange of random pieces of pointless trivia.
Cym:
. Soon enough I might be back here regularly again to torment you once again.
patience, young grasshopper…
The outside world is still a bit hectic but Maggot got me curious enough to venture in the LV world of commenting for a short spell. That and last night I apparently created a new injury because of an old injury so this morning had an extra minute or two now that I can’t do the more intense workouts for the rest of the week
Mark:
Translation, please? I assume:
Stubby = food?
Stump = chair?
footy = football?
Aussies like their -y endings a lot, don’t they? My digital comm professor (digital arts…she taught me computer animation, film editing and the like) was a recent transfer from Australia and when she got excited over something, she was damn near impossible to understand. I did get the hang of …bickies (sp?) or rather biscuits.
She also had a strange overwhelming hatred of jack rabbits that grew to encompass anything bunny-like. Easter was not her favorite holiday.
May 5th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
249. gabi319 : Stubby is a small – usually 375mL? – bottle of beer, as opposed to a “tally”.
Stump is chair, that one was rather easy comparitively. And yeah, footy is “football” – but over here that would generally mean a rugby code. Probably league given the context, due to its saturation through Australian culture, much like “soccer” in England.
“…Aussies like their -y endings a lot…”
Aye, they’re easy and they make for good slang. Why not?
“…bickies (sp?)…”
Beats me. We don’t write down our slang often – if at all – so I wouldn’t have a clue. It is a great word though. And you do know what bickies are right? I think they’re called cookies in some places…
“…She also had a strange overwhelming hatred of jack rabbits…”
By jack rabbit do you just mean, wild rabbit? Because they pretty much created a desert in the Northern Territory and South Australia. They are hated with a passion in Australia – especially rural areas like where I am – because they’re a huge pest, much like the cane toad
This animosity doesn’t usually extend to Easter though… Mmmm… Chocolate…
May 5th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
240-I was trying to be clever with the misspelling. Or maybe I was drunk.
May 6th, 2009 at 9:40 am
251. bigski – 240-I was trying to be clever with the misspelling. Or maybe I was drunk.
Could it not have been both? I don’t care what anyone else says, I am extraordinarily clever when I am drunk!
Mark:
I know bickie. That was our first lesson in Aussie Language classes during our digcomm classes. I also remember…I guess phonetically it’s something like Onya or On ya…meant something like ‘good job’ or at least I hope it was a compliment because it was usually said during presentations. And smoko means ‘take a break.’ Perhaps Jack Rabbit was Wild Rabbit? This was another point in time where we hit a language barrier. …In retrospect, I remember digital communications was in a computer lab. We could very well have just googled a picture of the thing during class to avoid the confusion.
Re: Comedians, Easter and Chocolate Bunnies
Now, the Philippines is hardcore when it comes to religion. I don’t know if it’s mentioned in any bizarre rituals lists here but they’re the ones who physically reenact the crucifixion every Easter. They take it seriously there while American Easter celebrations…mmm, not so hardcore. Anyway, Fil-Am comedian Rex Navarette is comparing the two and trying to understand how the celebrations evolved. He pretends to be Jesus suffering on the cross, talking to Paul…
“I have died for all of your sins, Paul. So, please, in the future, when you create a church on my behalf…please, every year, on the day that I am killed and resurrected…please…… paint eggs. Bury them in the sand. And enjoy chocolate bunnies. For me, Paul, for me!”
May 6th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
252. gabi319 : “…I also remember…I guess phonetically it’s something like Onya or On ya…meant something like ‘good job’…”
Short for good on you – good onya, or simply onya – meaning well done or good job
“…And smoko means ‘take a break.’…”
Smoko originally, and still usually, referred to the break in the morning – or afternoon – commonly referred to as morning tea – or afternoon tea. It had been expanded a bit to mean ‘take a break’ in some places – it’s not used that much by the locals where I’m from though.
Check it out -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbits_in_Australia
On the topic of rabbits that’s almost all that needs to be said for the animosity felt by most – if not all – Australians towards the, usually considered adorable, little bastards
May 25th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Another difference between Europe and America is that it is very seldom that you see an American comparing Europe and America as if they were rivals, or talking about the matter as if it were important at all. Whenever you see an American talking about Europe, he might talk about how smooth European roads are, how small their cars are, how beautiful their stores and commercial streets are, how beautiful their countryside is, and how rude their waiters/waitresses are. If anything they will praise the Old Continent and its charm.
But whenever you see an European talking about America, it’s as if they needed to convince themselves that, when compared, America loses (loses what?). They will talk about how architecture is uninspired or spiritless in America, how big our cars are, how fat we are, how excessively patriotic we are, how our government sucks, how America-centric we are, how ignorant we are, how plastic and money-driven our culture is, and how extravagant our sense of spaciousness is. They LOVE to talk about America, and in 90% of the cases it isn’t to say good stuff about it. Most of all, the LOVE to generalize, as if America were a single, homogeneous unit. Coastal America, both Eastern and Western, disappear, and the whole country becomes something that fuses Texas’ conservatism, Mississippi’s economy, New York’s haste, Montana’s cultural diversity, 1960s’ Alabama’s interracial tensions, New Hampshire’s unwelcoming attitude, Ohio’s architecture, and Washington DC’s politics.
I think deep inside they all love us, as much as we love them. The only difference is, we are not embarrassed to admit that we do love Europe and we would die defending it if it were necessary. Europeans are more on the shy side—they wouldn’t profess their love for us in front of anyone.
May 26th, 2009 at 12:05 am
Whatever helps you sleep at night Andres…
Good list of things not to like about the US though..have you thought of contributing to the reasons to hate americans list?
lol
May 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
wooow i think i jst spent about an hour and a half jst reading the comments :O….
May 29th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
255—Oh, do not be so patronizing with me because it’s not going to get us anywhere here. That’s not the way reasonable people respond to reasonable (but surely refutable) comments, is it?
Why is your response to my comment so harsh, after all? I’m not even trying to offend anyone—just making an observation. Don’t like it? Well, that sucks for you, buddy. Can’t do anything for you. That’s not going to change my opinion.
By the way, I sleep very well at night and that is none of your business. Plus, it’s not like I don’t know what I’m talking about—I was born and raised in Spain but I have spent the majority of my life in the United States. If you have lived in both continents for more time than I have, and you still think what I said deserves such a loathsome, condescending response, then I am not willing to further argue with you.
As for the second part of your comment, yes, there are many reasons to dislike US (not as many as the reasons to like it, which are brutally, systematically overlooked). There are many reasons not to like Europe as well, but I wouldn’t want to offend you. Look at your reaction to my relatively harmless observation—now imagine what it would be like if I had explicitly listed things not to like about Europe!
May 29th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
I read my comment over and I did say something at the end (deep inside Europeans love us), which might have been what you were responding to when you said, “Whatever helps you sleep at night.” In that case, I’m sorry, disregard everything I said about your comment being patronizing, condescending, loathsome, blah blah blah. Just ignore it! I was not being serious! :p
May 31st, 2009 at 11:03 am
What it is nowadays known as USA was first discovered and conquered by spaniards, colorado, virgina, carolina… were spansih colonies much earlier than Drake arrived and founded Delaware.
June 5th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Sounds like the UK is the worst place to go in Europe. Ha.
June 6th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
So true like Jordan said, they excluded the UK for the most part of the “Facts”.
July 1st, 2009 at 10:17 am
we have plenty of land reserves here,old and new ways of life.Diversity abound.over 40 languages spoken at portland high school etc. etc. etc.Guess what,we are not so different,as a state,region or country than anybody else in that,we are broke,our liberties are continually eroded,over taxed,under paid/educated,forced/tricked into things we do not want,denied things we want/demand.cheers to Europeans.Remember our lives and ancestry stems from europe as well as alot of other geographic influences over time.WHEN the next 9/11 occurs we will need help from alot of the countries we compare ourselves to,just to save us from our own government & corporations.
July 4th, 2009 at 5:47 am
Modern lifestyle mostly in cities, fast-food, wide car usage, pop-culture, multimedia and shopping. I don’t think these things are that far from US. Or at least I live in EU and I see that everyone here is shopping at hypermarkets, nearly everyone own a car, ALOTS of poeple in EU visit fast-food restaurants each day, many international companies operate a large stores networks here, music and movie genres and multimedia, fashion…etc Don’t you think that these things which are the biggest part of nearly every person’s life are same as in the USA? Because I think yes.
July 23rd, 2009 at 6:39 am
Has the author been to europe? Oo
August 4th, 2009 at 6:11 am
i think the author is trash talking America. I love America and wouldn’t change it for the world. Anyone who disagrees, can suck it.
August 8th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I am sorry, but please do your research before you draw conclusions. Prohibition existed in Europe as well… the attitude towards booze has nothing to do with prohibition.
Also, as an American, I would like to say fuck you… because you make us look bad. I hate watching football, I never drink beer, I very rarely eat fast food, hamburgers, hot dogs, etc… and you may want to explore the origins of the American form of government.. it is quite European, I assure you.
I, as an America, would gladly see all of the damn big box stores burnt to the ground.
The worst part of this festering carrion of an article is the “America has one language for all” comment. Haven’t you any idea of where you live and who else lives here with you? Americans are much more diverse than you think, I’m afraid. I can’t drive down the street in my little suburb without noticing sign after sign written in Russian, Korean, Chinese and Spanish. True, the majority here speaks English, but it is by far NOT the “one language for all” that you speak of. I myself speak Russian and English. Russian at home, English in public. And by the way… I was born here and am of Irish ancestry, my wife’s family is of Ukrainian origin… so what am I to you? One of the “others” that just happens to reside here. One of the “others” who is not vacuous retard, whose myopic worldview has deprived so many living in the third world so that you can drive to your convenient Wal-Mart while eating a burger, listening to Brittany Spears and trying to remember whether Europe is a continent or a peninsula?
What a daft and naive puddle of piss. Please wash off that foul stench of ignorance or just shut up.
August 18th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Europe has more culture than america and better scenary.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
uh, I, like the writer live in MI but he is way off on the sale of alcohol. all days but sunday you can buy it from 7 am until 2 am, so there’s only a 5 hour gap. on sunday you cannot buy until noon but you can buy it allday afterwards(NOT until 5pm) until 2 am monday. also the only holiday you cant buy it is x-mas. go to any party store on any other holiday and you can get what you need to make your relatives bareable. I had to know these laws as I worked in retail for a while. now go booze up kiddies
August 27th, 2009 at 2:31 am
this is such a load of crap. what are you all arguing about its ridiculous! its like saying who are the better looking race!! everybody has different preferences and like different things. thats what makes this planet so special. im irish, ireland is quaint and mad both at the same time. we dont all go around getting drunk drinking guiness and irish dancing.i watch american tv programmes and love budweiser, hotdogs and juicy couture!!!…get what im saying. p.s Europe is a continent..every country is as different as the next one.
August 27th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Hmmm.
Funny how the author seems to have pissed off the Yanks AND the Brits at the same time… quite a feat!
Just like to set a few things straight though.
1 – Brits chewing rocks.
WTF!?!?!? Never even heard of this before. LOL
2 – Brits having bad teeth.
I’ve only ever met a handful of people with bad teeth (and by bad I’m referring to them not being very straight). These are almost exclusivly very poor people, who wouldn’t be able to afford the dental work. I myself am 30 years old, have never needed any dental work AT ALL (I still have 2 Dental checkups a year though), and have perfectly normal (Ivory Colored) straight teeth with no fillings.
Incidentally when I was in the US I saw quite a few people with badly screwed up blackened or yellowed teeth. Mostly very poor people, which leads to my next point.
3 – The NHS is bad.
Are you having an effing laugh!? There are people living in the US who have been made destitute because they suffered some kind of illness or injury, and had to pay out hundreds of thousands of dollars on medical care or drugs because either they couldn’t afford or didn’t have the right insurance. I mean seriously are we living in the medieval times or what? You get Cancer, but your insurance doesn’t cover THAT kind of cancer (e.g. a man getting Breast Cancer), so you have to pay all your medical bills yourself. Even if that means that you have to sell your house, your car, all your worldly belongings and end up sleeping on your sisters couch. What kind of fucked up system is that?
Is the NHS perfect? Absolutely not. It has been ruined by beurocracy, paperwork, overmanagement, and meddling by politicians, not to mention overcharging by the pharmaceutical compaines.
But you know what? If I’m in a road traffic accident and am injured, I know that I’ll get an ambulance, and taken to a hospital where I’ll be seen by some of the best trained doctors and nurses in the world (however overworked) I could spend 6 months in Hospital and need years of after-care, and I won’t have to open my wallet even once – not for one penny. If I’m out of work, I won’t even have to pay to get to hospital for outpatient care, because my taxi or bus fares would be refunded.
And if I do have sufficient money I do have the option of ‘topping up’ my health care with BUPA insurance or something similar.
Give me the NHS over the US’s Victorian-era system ANY day.
4 – British food is bad.
Horses for courses mate – I find a lot of American food utter trash (and some of it very good). After 2 days in Florida I switched to eating starters / appetisers because the main courses were too big and swimming in fat. One time I ordered a chicken salad – no mayo. When it arrived it had BARBEQUE SAUCE all over it. I nearly puked.
5 – European Waiters/Waitresses are rude.
Some of them, sure – but if they are… DON’T TIP THEM. If they don’t get a tip from an *American* customer then they will realise that they obviously did something wrong.
6 – Aluminium / Aluminum.
ALUMINIUM is an element on the periodic table. which are almost exclusively name ium. I just had a quick scan through them and saw only about 15 (out of 117) that weren’t named this way.
7 – Brits don’t have to learn a second language.
WRONG we all have to learn French or German, although the choices have expanded significantly in recent years.
Personally I’m conversation-level fluent in French (although I’m quite rusty) I can also get by in Italian, Spanish, Turkish, and I can understand written Welsh.
I just wanted to add one other difference – how we write down dates.
We write dates numerically in ascending order of significance – i.e. dd/mm/yyyy
The Yanks write them wrong

(Please note the heavy sarcasm)
Hmm. I’ve been typing for bloody ages – better stop. LOL!
Dash.
August 29th, 2009 at 4:06 am
One other thing…
#202 by shaj2329
British Humour IS NOT based upon sarcasm!!!
Sure it is used occasionally, but those that use it a lot are looked down upon as idiots, really.
It has many facets, but is mainly Irony and Satire. Sadly for reasons we cannot fathom, many Americans simply don’t understand British humour.
The number of Americans that I have discussed British comedy with, who have pointed to Benny Hill being the funniest thing (Or ONLY thing) they’ve seen makes my blood boil.
I’ve been sat in a room or theatre before now watching some comedy, and everyone is dying with laughter at something the comedian has said, and you’re almost guaranteed to see an American family looking confused.
I think that this is primarily because much American Comedy is so ‘In Your Face’ – there is little subtlety to it. There are exceptions of course…
I LOVE Scrubs, Family Guy, South Park and House to name a few. (Well I would, wouldn’t I? – Hugh Laury is one of the most versatile British actors in history)
Compare these sterling shows to the drivel that comes out of the mouths of the presenters on Americas Dumbest Criminals or similar shows to see the chasm that exists between them.
p.s. 10 points to those that spot the irony between my two posts
Dash
September 4th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Great facts!
Maybe I will be alone on this, but is it possible to call United-States the United-States? (As if Canada, Mexico, Brazil and the likes were not in America.)
I mean, I am a French-Canadian, and considering myself a full-fledge american (in the ”continental-point-of-view-of-the-term”). And I still don’t understand why I’ve got to precise my non-u.s. americanship.
America is a continent, not a country.
(Thank you for this fantastic site)
September 7th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Everybody hates the people they are jealous of.
I’ve lived in small-town USA, large-town USA, and Europe, and in terms of general friendliness, Europe is in the middle. Small town USA blows both other places away, and I cant wait to move back.
September 7th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I know it seems the done thing to rubbish British food, but I think thats more learned behaviour from your media considering how few Americans even own a passport its unlikely they have even eaten here.
September 8th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Europeans may be less friendly than Americans, but it’s actually nearly impossible to make real friends in the US. The conception of friendship is very different than in the EU. For example, in the US, party invitations are usually sent for anyone to come: friends, friends of friends, etc… It’s great, but in the end it remains very shallow. In the EU, when a co-worker or a neighbor invites you over to their house for a party or a gathering, it is “serious” business. Impossible not to go without prior warning, and canceling without rescheduling or a damn good reason will be taken as an offense. In the US, it’s far more informal. In the EU, when you have a friend, they know everything about you and you about them. It’s a profound and durable relationship. In the US, a “friend” often comes to mean just an acquaintance. Facebook embodies the US conception of friendship quite well. (PS: of course, “real” friends exist in the US too, but you’ll have a hard time finding them, because friendly relationships tend to naturally remain shallow).
September 10th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Has anyone bothered to mention that the US is a country and Europe is a continent made up of many many different countries?
This is a useless list…
September 12th, 2009 at 6:39 am
although it may have already been said id just like to say that australia is a now a country mixed with england and american and in certain parts, asia and europe. and the difference should be a list
September 19th, 2009 at 5:12 am
the sports thing is just stupid. europoean sports in general are much more civilised than american ones. and europeans love skiing way more than cricket.
September 20th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
item 1: does anybody know whether the 2-prong socket means there is no capability to grounding (earthing)? thank you
September 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Brook:The short answer,no capability.
Technically speaking,any 2-prong plug will not be earth grounded when plugged in.In the US,a non-polarized 2-prong plug derives it’s grounding from the neutral,or cold lead in the socket.Also in the US,a polarized 2-prong plug will be providing power through the wider socket on the receptacle (the hot lead), and the grounding is provided through the narrower slot.The third hole on a 120-volt US receptacle (earth ground) provides added protections due to failure of the appliance or electrical system.Checking the “whole house grounding” is something that requires a licensed electrician,as it is a complicated subject.No matter where you are in the world,just because the socket accepts your appliance,and works,does not necessarily mean that it is properly wired or grounded.Circuits can and may be wired wrong,and still operate.More information about plugs all over the world,complete with pictures is available at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets
I have not travelled to Europe in over 20 years,but I didn’t see any polarized European plugs listed here.If you do travel overseas,scroll to the bottom of the wikipedia page above and click on “electronic travelling
booklet” link for some more good tips.
Two words of caution:
1.In both the US and overseas,you may run into old,obsolete combination receptacles.They are shown on the wikipedia page,along with warnings.
2.240-volt receptacles and above are totally different and more complicated.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Are you American sir?
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:39 am
Mr. delaCruz, I’m born, raised, and still living in the US.
September 26th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Fucking US assholes, stop calling yourselves americans, and your fucking country “america” usa is not america is just a fucking country!! America is a continent
September 27th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Actually, it is compulsory to learn another language in the UK..
October 9th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Actually playa4life America is a country according to Canada, USA, China, Japan, Russia, vast majority of European countries excluding Spain and portugal, Middleeast and Africa, Austrailia. In all of those countries I listed they all believe that the Americas are two seperate continents not one. It’s primarily Latin America along with Iran and spain and portugal that believe America is one continent and not a country. Remember there is no world standard for how many continents there are. For example Japan teaches that europe and asia are one continent.
October 13th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
@jfrater (7)
I suggest you come here on a tourist visa and don’t leave. That’s what most people do.
November 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 pm
This is the worst list i’ve ever read. What about the ukraine or slovakia or hungary? You basically talked about the UK as if it was representative of the entire European Continent.
Keep on proving people who say american’s have no knowledge about the rest of the world right.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
@sdggrant
“The USA has its own god examples as well. Just take a look at Singapore.”
i’m sorry, what are exactly are you talking about here? Singapore was colonized by the Brits a long time ago and we take after the Brits in a lot of things, like spelling, justice system (for the most part) and driving on the right side of the road.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
@wingodingo
No it isn’t!
November 19th, 2009 at 1:27 am
How about we call our country whatever the hell we want? And also I am sick of rugby being considered so much tougher than American football due to the lack of padding. Anyone who has ever played both knows the collisions in American football are much more violent. In rugby you wrap with your arms and drag to the ground whereas in American football there are many head to head collisions as well as blocking.
November 20th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
maybe this should have been called “top ten reasons why america is better than y`all” very americanish.