Throughout the history of law, there have been trials of animals, convictions (and even occasional executions) of innocent people. Not so well known are these five cases of people put on trial after they were dead. So here we present the top five cases of the justice system gone wild.
Wycliffe was a dissident in the Catholic Church in the 1400s. He was opposed to Papal power in non-church affairs. In his lifetime he organized a translation of the Latin Vulgate Bible into English. Despite his teachings being extremely controversial, he was never excommunicated (kicked out of the Church). He died during Mass in December 1384. The Council of Constance declared Wycliffe (on 4 May 1415) a stiff-necked heretic and under the ban of the Church. It was decreed that his books be burned and his body be exhumed. The latter did not happen till twelve years afterward, when at the command of Pope Martin V they were dug up, burned, and the ashes cast into the River Swift that flows through Lutterworth.
Bormann was a prominent Nazi official who hid with Hitler in the final days of the war. According to Wikipedia, during the chaotic closing days of the war, there were contradictory reports as to Bormann’s whereabouts. For example, Jakob Glas, Bormann’s long-time chauffeur, insisted he saw Bormann in Munich weeks after 1 May 1945. The bodies were not found, and a global search followed including extensive efforts in South America. With no evidence to confirm or deny Bormann’s death, the International Military Tribunal at Nuremberg tried Bormann in absentia in October 1946 and sentenced him to death. His court-appointed defense attorney used the unsuccessful defense that the court could not convict Bormann because he was already dead. [Source] It was later proven (by DNA) that Bormann was, indeed, dead at the time of the trial.
24 Years after Saint Joan of Arc was burned at the stake by renegade Bishops, her case was reopened by Pope Callixtus III (at the request of Joan’s mother, Isabelle Romée, and Jean Brehal, the Inquisitor General – head of the Office of Inquisition) and three Bishops were appointed to the trial (which is known as the nullification trial). They found overwhelmingly that a miscarriage of justice had occurred and she was vindicated. The final summary, in June, 1456, describes Joan as a martyr and implicates the late Pierre Cauchon with heresy (believing things contrary to the Catholic Church beliefs) for having convicted an innocent woman in pursuit of a non-religious vendetta. 500 years later she was declared a saint by Pope Benedict XV.
St Thomas Becket was the Archbishop of Canterbury in the 12 century. St Thomas fought against reforms by King Henry II who wanted to reduce the ties of the clergy (priests and monks) to Rome. Consequently, Henry II ordered the man killed. He was executed in the Cathedral. Henry II later repented of his crime. Some 300 years later, King Henry VIII, who had broken from the Catholic Church and created the Anglican Church because he could not divorce his wife, ordered St Thomas’ bones to be put on trial – a trial in which Becket was found guilty of treason. His bones were publicly burnt and his burial place desecrated. Ironically, the Anglican church consider him a saint and venerate (worship) him.
Pope Stephen VI was made a Bishop (possibly against his will) by Pope Formosus who, during his reign, was excommunicated for leaving the Papal seat and “conspiring to destroy the papal see” (in other words, leaving the Vatican in an attempt to escape from being Pope). He was eventually forgiven and returned to Rome. When Stephen VI came the Papal Throne, he had the body of formosus dug up and put on trial (this is the famous Cadaver Synod (meeting) of 897 AD). Formosus was accused of various breaches of church law, of lying, and of pretending to be a Bishop when he wasn’t one. Stephen had Formosus’ papal clothing removed and two fingers from his right hand cut off. Formosus’ body was thrown in to the Tiber river. After the Synod, public opinion turned against Stephen. He was overthrown in an uprising and strangled to death.
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Interesting list, but not one of your better written ones I think
WoW, the things people do under the auspices of religion.
So much violence! And with the exception of Martin Bormann, all related (inspired by?) to religion
Oh give me a break you guys. It was all related to wackos from the middle ages (except Bormann)… If science was the chief authority back then, it probably would be done in the name of science and not religion.
This has more to do with the perverse nature of humans during the dark ages.
Anyway, intriguing list. A bit confusing for me though – I don't know what many of the Catholic 'thingies' actually mean; "transmigrating sees" … huh?
Rocknopera: you honestly think people were more likely to be 'wackos' in the Middle Ages/Dark Ages? I'm no expert but aren't psychopathic tendencies completely unrelated to what year it is? Unless you define a 'wacko' as something other than a psychopath…
Why do you say that Bormann's case was an exeption, it had everything to do with religion… A false one yes – nazi's own pagan religion produced by the twisted mind of Heinrich Himmler – but still a religion…
Oh I thought religion involved a god/gods? Nazi ideology involves deities?
Tempyra: I think Nemmesis was alluding to the unquestioning worship of nazi ideology.
I think you raised a good point about the religious terms. Not too bad for me, I have somewhat of a catholic background, but having to google too often will ruin it for some. The descriptions could have been a little longer in order to explain some of the less known words/concepts.
We don't want people to pass over the list, nor do we want the list dumbed down by not using the correct terms. Teach us.
I agree with comments 1,2, and 5. The one with Pope Formosas just confused me.
Are these the top 5 posthumous trials, or the ONLY 5 posthumous trials?
Wow… there are also lots of people who have been 'executed' after their death –> Posthumous execution
isnt that just kinda useless? putting a trial on for a dead person
Hmm. Well, this is as usual an imaginative theme. But it turns out not to have anywhere v much to go.
In #3, Joan of Arc is decribed as being 'canonized a saint': a tautology. 'Canonized' means 'made into a saint'.
Maybe we need a glossary for #1, or a longer explanation of the chain of events. I was brought up a catholic in Ireland — which is about as catholic as you can get — & I'm struggling. You lose me right at the start when you say that Pope Stephen VI was 'consecrated (possibly against his will) by Pope Formosus'. Normally it's buildings that are consecrated. I assume you mean that the FUTURE Pope Stephen VI was ordained as a bishop. But how could that be against his will?
Phew… someone else commented. I thought I broke Listverse! Something weird was happening with the Recent Comments section too.
cool list, kinda creepy though.
No I wasn't talking about the Nazi ideology but about something that is pretty much unknown about the Nazi Germany, its the pagan – Teutonic worship of Gott (an old medieval god from Germany)… Himmler inserted this into the SS beliefs… Himmler even conducted mariages and baptism for his god Gott… I'm not kidding here, this actually happenned in the castle Wewelsburg, an old ruined castle from the Hun's era, transformed in the XVII century, and renovated to suit Himmler's purposes…
Very good list, reminds me of the first ones I ever read on listverse. Nice job!
I don't know about you guys, but I sure hope I get put on trial after my death.
Nice list, it's crazy how crazy some people are.
Love lists like this
Wasn't Beckett an accident though? Two knights overhearing the king and taking it the wrong way? I could be thinking of someone else, or just swallowing high school history propaganda
Good list, The story about St. Joan of Arc is my favorite from this list. It had to have made her mom feel a little better.
Nemmesis: That is a cool fact of which I had heard nothing about. Good job! I will check it out.
Okay – I have made some edits to this list to make it a little clearer – I sometimes forget that some of the big words relating to religion are not known to all
Jfrater Great! Now I'll go back and reread. Be right back!!
HM
Ah. much clearer. Thanks Jfrater. Very interesting stuff. I guess there's something to be said for living the quiet life.
Actully makes a bit more sense
Jfrater: One thing I dont understand is, do you guys delete comments?
Cause one minute I have 198 or something and the next 190…
And if you do, why? I don't think I've ever done anything wrong
Nemmesis: i think he meant that with the exception of Bormann, they were all in the middle ages.
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Well duh…
Wow. Not a lot of comments here. Been following all day.
HM
Vera: Tell me about it.. I guess everybodys too busy with the "your view" thing.
I think it's funny that everybody trialed after there death was found to be whatever the original belief was for putting them on trial. If they were to believed to be innocent, they were found innocent. Guilty, likewise. Maybe it has something to do with not being able to stand up for oneself… But that's just a guess.
Warning What do you mean? I knew when I read the list, there wouldn't be a lot of comments. It's not a hot button issue.
I just got here, I was working all day (I know, on a Saturday, it sucks). Good list, a bit short though.
Phender_Bender Where do you work. Why work on a Saturday? Not being *****y; just curious. I teach.
Vera:You're right
WarningDontReadThis I am often not right, but I believe I am often almost right. How ya doin tonite?
Wow. There is no one here. Very weird. Like being in a vacuum. The list wasn't bad. What gives? If there is no controversy, no one responds? I don't get it. Sorry Jfrater. People complain about me and MPW. Better to have comments, than none. That is only MHO.
Vera: I can't sleep so I've been through nearly all the lists just browsing. Summer isn't that grand when you're all alone
all we is some sort of controversy to associate with this list
but what??
I got it! Nearly all the people on the list were christian. There I mentioned religion, things should heat up soon enough.
i know, lets put the corpse of Walt Disney on trial for giving birth to a monster
didn't work, oh well
It should be noted that on Saturdays and Sundays there is always a lull in comments – so that is probably partly to blame for the low number of comments here. That and the fact that there is no controversy
I like this list.
Good job, jafra
I like your revisions JFrater
. The first sentence of #1 makes more sense to me now, I was a bit puzzled because I didn't think there could be more than one Pope at a time.
Hi MPW, I tried stirring the pot (earlier in the comments) to create a lil controversy, but there was no response from Rocknopera *sulks*
Thanks rushfan
Tomorrow's list will have more bulk to it – to balance the shortness of this one.
I look forward to it, as always. One of the best things about this site is the variety ~ not just of list topics, but of types of lists, lenghths of lists, depth they go into, as well as the variety of comments and commenters.
Interesting list. I understand that there may be a need to "set the record straight" after a person has died but exhuming bodies and then burning or mutilating them is just plain nuts!!
How about a list of living people who should be put on trial even though they may have already been acquitted by law. OJ, of course would top that list.
The English killing people because of religous beliefs, Im shocked. Nazis escaping justice, again shocked. Popes acting up, is there no limit ?
Thanks, jfrater, for making those amendments. #1, in particular, is clearer now. Still not sure how someone can be made a bishop against his will tho. Hope it never happens to me.
(Tongue-in-cheek deadpan irony)
But Walt Disney isn't dead yet – his body is in suspended animation!
i heard that was a myth
Was the next part of my comment administered or did I write something non-HTML?
I wrote "parenthesis – slash – 'irony' – end parenthesis" meaning "end of ironic section".
I then wrote:
Can we stop calling Joan "of Arc" like "Arc" is some place? Not like Crystal d'Arques, (irony) who wasn't put on trial after her death. (end irony)
MPW: I am now clearly indicating irony.
Tomo Good point about OJ. I'd like to see that list, too. How about Drew Peterson?
Astraya Suspended animation! That was great. Is it really a myth,MPW?
"Wycliffe was a dissident in the Catholic Church in the 1400's"…"He died during Mass in December 1384."
HE WAS A ZOMBIE?!! No wonder they burned his remains. Gotta destroy the brain.
Can you give some info about the artworks used as illustrations? Upon seeing the Cadaver Synod one, I thought "Who would have decided to paint that?"
40. WarningDontReadThis – June 21st, 2008 at 9:22 pm
I can’t sleep so I’ve been through nearly all the lists just browsing. Summer isn’t that grand when you’re all alone
Warning ~ When I'm bored, I go to the forums. Have you gone yet? It can be lots of fun when there are people there. When there aren't any, you can read old stuff. There's even pics of people (MPW) so it's fun to put a face w/a name.