History is full of faked deaths and re-appearances of people long thought dead, but there are also a small number of people who did most likely die, but become the center of theories that claim they live. This list looks at ten of the most well know deaths that have fueled the fires in the minds of conspiracy theorists.
Tupac, was a rapper who was killed in a drive-by shooting. The murder remains unsolved, inspiring many theories over who was responsible. In addition, many fans insisted that Tupac was still alive. The rumors were partly fueled by Tupac’s release of eight albums in the decade after his death. In a strange coincidence, the first of those albums included the song “Blasphemy” on which Tupac raps “Brother’s getting shot and coming back resurrected.”
The offbeat comedian, best known for playing Latka on the TV series Taxi, died from lung cancer at age 35. Partly because he had kept his illness a secret almost until the day he died, many fans thought the death announcement had been staged as an elaborate prank. Kaufman’s frequent collaborator, fellow comedian Bob Zmuda, admitted that he and Kaufman had discussed faking his death and he seemed “obsessed with the idea.” However, in a 1999 interview Zmuda declared, “Andy Kaufman is dead. He’s not in some truck stop with Elvis.” Just in case, Kaufman’s friends held a “Welcome Home Andy” party on the 20th anniversary of his death. The guest of honor failed to appear.
There have been thousands of sightings of the King since his death. At the funeral, Elvis’ father Vernon allegedly acknowledged that the corpse in the coffin did not look like his son. He said that Elvis was “upstairs,” adding, “We had to show the people something.” Presley was also said to have been fascinated with The Passover Plot by Hugh Schoenfield, who speculated that Jesus’ resurrection was faked with a drug that temporarily made him appear dead. Presley, no stranger to prescription drugs, may have had the knowledge to pull off a similar scheme.
In March of 1971, Morrison, lead singer of the Doors, moved to Paris to write poetry. On Friday, July 2, Morrison left his apartment, telling his girlfriend, Pamela Courson, that he was going to see a movie. On Monday, Courson called Elektra Records representative Bill Siddons and told him to come to Paris. When he arrived, Siddons found Courson, a sealed coffin and a death certificate saying that Morrison had died from a heart attack. Exactly what had happened that weekend remained a mystery. Despite the claim on the death certificate, rumors suggested that an overdose of drugs or alcohol had killed Morrison. Unconfirmed reports that the singer had been spotted boarding a plane that weekend fueled speculation that he was still alive. Even Doors keyboardist Ray Manzarek said in a 1973 interview, “I don’t know to this day how the man died and in fact I don’t even know if he’s dead. Nobody ever saw Jim Morrison’s body … it was a sealed coffin. So who knows, who knows how Jim died.”
Hitler and his bride of one day, Eva Braun, committed suicide in the bunker under the Reich Chancellery on April 30, 1945. The next day, German radio announced that the fuehrer had died leading his troops in battle. The Soviet news service Tass picked up the report but added that “by spreading the news of Hitler’s death, the German Fascists apparently wish to give Hitler the means of leaving the stage and going underground.” During the Potsdam Conference in July, Joseph Stalin insisted that Hitler had escaped to either Spain or Argentina. In fact, by this time the Russians possessed the remains of Hitler and Braun, having recovered them from the bomb crater they had been buried in. When Soviet autopsy reports on the pair were released in 1968, they showed that the bodies had been positively identified as Hitler and Braun from dental records. Despite this evidence, alleged sightings of Hitler continued.
The youngest daughter of Nicholas II, the last tsar of Russia, was shot with the rest of the royal family by a Communist firing squad. Over the years, several women declared themselves to be Anastasia. The most famous was Anna Anderson, who began making her claims after being rescued from a Berlin canal in 1920. She later lost a lawsuit in which she sought to be recognized as a Romanov heir, married Jack Manahan and settled in Virginia, where she died in 1984. A decade after her death, DNA testing established that Anna Anderson Manahan was not related to the Romanovs but instead came from a Polish family, the Schanzowskis, as her detractors had long claimed.
In 1948, a 100-year-old Oklahoma man named J. Frank Dalton announced that he was Jesse James, who officially had been killed by Robert Ford 66 years earlier. Dalton convinced writer Robert Ruark and Rudy Turilli, an acknowledged expert on James, of his claims. The man allegedly killed in James’ stead was another outlaw, Charlie Bigelow. Reportedly, when James’ mother was first shown the body of the man Ford had shot, she blurted out, ‘No, gentlemen, that is not my son.’ However, in 1995, the body buried in Jesse James’ grave was exhumed for DNA testing. The results confirmed that it was the famed outlaw.
Towards the end of his reign, the Russian tsar expressed to his family and close friends a desire to give up his throne. During an inspection tour of the Crimea in the winter of 1825, Alexander died suddenly of either malaria or pneumonia. He was buried in a closed casket. The hazy circumstances of his death fed rumors that Alexander had faked his death and secretly abdicated. Feodor Kuzmich, a wandering holy man who died in Siberia in 1864, was rumored to have been the former emperor. Further enhancing the mystery around the Tsar, in 1925 the Soviets opened Alexander’s tomb and did not find a body.
The dauphin, heir to the throne of France, died in prison of tuberculosis during the French Revolution. Even before the death was announced, rumors circulated that royalist sympathizers had freed him and replaced him with a double. Madame Simon, the wife of the jailer, asserted that Louis had been smuggled out of prison in a basket of dirty laundry and replaced by a child with rickets. Eventually, over a hundred royal pretenders claimed his identity, a situation Mark Twain satirized in the duke and “dolphin” sections of Huckleberry Finn.
Obviously this is a complicated item as many people (over 1 billion in fact) believe that Jesus rose from the dead. But we are not talking about the resurrection aspect of Christ – we are talking about what happened later. According to Christianity, Jesus ascended into heaven after his resurrection – and was henceforth gone from the world. But some people believe that he continued to live for a longer period of time and, believe it or not, went to America and taught the people there a new gospel. It is, of course, the Mormons who believe this. There are even some people who believe that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and lived a long life bearing many children.
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1 nothing
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 am
Good list. You just HAD to go there with number 1, didn’t you? This should be interesting…
As per number 10, Tupac Shakur… He is one of my favorite poets and I also love his music. For years, I was one of the hyped people jumping on the ‘He’s Alive!’ side. I guess now I can safely say it doesn’t matter one way or the other. If he is, great. If not, rest in peace.
I had no idea about number 6, Hitler. Hmm, maybe I should brush up on some history type stuff?
2 Carol D
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:37 am
Great List LOL at the Hitler one, I think If he were still alive he’d be like really really pissed at society today. And Were the sightings with or without the infamous mustache?
3 dbrownl
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:38 am
had no idea that people thought james was alive after ford shot him, interesting point and of course you had to go there with number 1, it is one of the most believed things in the world, with all cheezy tabloid hype and conspiracy you think elvis could have been higher up on the list
4 Mullaccio
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:46 am
If there was anyone crazy enough to fake their own death it would be Jim Morrison!!
5 SamBam51
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 am
Alexander I, is the most interesting cause it seems like it is still open for debate.
6 joliver
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:04 am
so very interesting! so adolf hitler is in the list… he just became famous because of his brutality!
7 koussy
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:14 am
What About John lennon
8 koussy
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:15 am
But great List though
9 dbrownl
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 am
hitler actually became fmaous before his brutality against jews came out, the german blitzkreig terrorified nations and everyone knew about hitler, only closer to the end of the war did the full extent of his brutality come to light
10 wolvesofodin
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:22 am
I actually just read an article about Hitler being in Argentina the other day. It was actually very compelling, and form what it said it could have happened. It talked about all of the body doubles that Hitler had and various other things that could have gotten him out of there. They said he was actually gone long before the end of the war…who knows though. If I can find the website I will post alink to it.
11 emmstein
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:26 am
suppose there is a list of “10 people rumored to be DEAD but still living”, Jesus would still be #1. He is THAT powerful.
12 dbrownl
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:29 am
uh-oh i can see where this debate is going to start heading…
13 Kibey
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 am
What about Osama bin laden? He’s been dead for 7 years and you’d be surprised how many people think he’s still alive.
14 Mark
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:34 am
Actually people, Hitler was famous BEFORE the war, believe it or not. He won Time’s Man (Person?) Of The Year in the mid 30′s, and of course Germany hosted the ’36 Olympics which put a lot of eyes on him…
15 dbrownl
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:39 am
mark that is obvious, i was making a quick point that he is famous for more than brutality, if you wanted you could write pages on what he did before and during the war that affected people’s perception of him
16 Cernunnos
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 am
come on now! its common knowledge that Elvis lives on the dark side of the moon with all the nazis who fled in their super-secret spacecrafts. its also no secret that Hitler is there too.
apparantly, the nazis are close friends with the reptiles that rule humanity. fact.
17 DogBitez
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:52 am
Next time, save your #1 item (Jesus) for a list about superstitions, myths, brainwashing and mystical beings with supernatural powers. Jesus, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, zombies and Big Foot… they all share the same level of realism to me. I like to see the lists based in fact, not Christian faith.
18 Ryan
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:58 am
More interesting to me than any of the ones listed here is the story of Richey Edwards, guitarist and vocalist from the Manic Street Preachers. He mysteriously disappeared in 1995, and is now listed since 2008 with the status ‘presumed dead’. However, other band members have no idea about his whereabouts, but put 25% of all royalties from their music into a bank account for him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richey_Edwards
19 Travis
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 am
Lots of ppl missing on this list:
Notoriuos BIG
Paul McCartney
Bob Marley
The real James Bond
Karl Marx
King Sebastian of Portugal
Charles “lucky” Luciano
And by the way Jesus isnt dead he was dating Madonna a couple of weeks ago!!
20 Travis
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:09 am
oh oh oh…. and I see Elvis in Vegas all the time!!!
21 Viewfromoutsidechristianity
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:10 am
The thing i heard about post-resurrection Jesus life was that he came to Kashmir to recover and was called YUZ ASAF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuz_Asaf) – the saint buried in Kashmir.
22 MPW
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:11 am
A truly intriguing list, well done.
23 Mark
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:16 am
19. Travis : Paul’s dead… Wow, you learn something new everyday… Jesus is actually playing for the Socceroos :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Kennedy
24 ViewfromIndia
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:17 am
The one name from then Indian Subcontinent – SUBHAS CHANDRA BOSE – the militant freedom fighter of India (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Chandra_Bose). He died in an aircraft crash in Taiwan in August 1945. Most Indians don’t believe he died in Taiwan. So much so, the govt of India commissioned 3 panels – in the 1950s, 1970s and 1990s to seek the truth. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_mystery_of_Netaji_Subhash_Chandra_Bose)
To this day, quite a few Indians believe that Bose didn’t die in Taiwan & may eve be alive (112 years old!)
25 wolvesofodin
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:18 am
I found the article on Hitler if anyone cares enough to read it. It is kind of long but an interesting read if you can make it through it.
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mysteries/history/hitler.html
26 Copaface
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 am
I got well owned… I posted a comment like half an hour ago and now it’s not here…
27 Jamie3039
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 am
Brilliant list. Honestly when seeing the title only Elvis and Hitler flashed into my mind. But old Jesus creeps in again. By the way I knew a guy who claimed to have served Jim Morrison a BLT sandwich in 1987. He was a bit insane but nevertheless interesting.
28 Travis
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:29 am
@ Mark : Question – Does joshua kennedy walk on water? does he turn water into wine? has he ever dated Madonna? has he ever appeared on a Family Guy episode? I believe your answers to this will all be NO! So… he might look like Jesus but he isnt!
29 deviantmiss
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 am
good list, @travis you nutta – paul mccartney? you need to lay off the drugs honey! jesus and madonna well thats a thought!
30 deviantmiss
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:35 am
and i think bin laden is dead too
31 boomshine
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:40 am
Great list JFrater, one of the most interesting for me in a while. Conincidentally the other day I saw a picture on the internet of a “possible sighting” of Tupac Shakur. It was taken not 2 months ago and it certainly did look like him. However, I’m sure that there is someone out there who could be mistaken for myself.
P.S. Didn’t Jim Morrison star in a Wayne’s World Movie???
32 Travis
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:42 am
@ deviantmiss : wouldnt it be funny if some how… bin Laden was Jesus! And he did all this sh*t just to test the Christian faith?!!
33 Mark
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 am
28. Travis : He is a saviour to me, he scored the first goal against Uzbekistan mid-week
32. Travis : That thought actually fits quite well with the rest of the “logic” of the Christian faith.
34 deviantmiss
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:46 am
@Travis WOW i never thought of that before, man your deep! well they do say the lord works in mysterious ways!
35 warrrreagl
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:54 am
19. Travis, I admire you! I was all set to add Paul McCartney, and you beat me to it. Well done!
36 Notfunny
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:57 am
32: Travis – It isn’t funny! Do we have such a short memory that we forget the horrors that Laden has dished to the global community at large? 9/11?
Don’t use the word FUNNY! I feel it is an insult to the thousands that suffered on 9/11 and the many more than have suffered during the Afghanistan & Iraq invasions!
37 Travis
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:57 am
@ Mark : ah yes Uzbekistan… tough team… you really need a “saviour” to win them!!
@ deviantmiss & Mark : The Good Lord has tested the Christian faith many times… I bet he was just bored of hacking into microsoft systems and began the Al-queda… and think about it, if you re-arrange the word Al-queda… what does it spell?? yes thats right!!
38 Travis
April 3rd, 2009 at 3:59 am
@ Notfunny : sorry mate, you right. funny wasnt the word i was targeting!
39 Mark
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:03 am
37. Travis : *groan*
40 flightsimgod
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:06 am
I think Richard Nixion was Jesus. Don’t be fooled: Mr.Nixion still walks upon us. His death was a coverup to hide his awesome powers.
41 Travis
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:11 am
@ flightsimgod : Awesome powers? You must have never heard of a man called – Chuck Norris!! Now those are awesome powers!! While many believe in Jesus… Jesus believes in Chuck Norris!
42 Iain
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:21 am
A couple of significant misses – Billy the Kid (whose supposed survival is more well known than Jesse James e.g. the ending of the movie Young Guns 2) and the Princes in the Tower (the heirs of Edward IV) allegedly murdered by Richard III. Pretenders like Perkin Warbeck, claiming to be one of the princes, actually made attempts on the throne of England.
43 Nowthatsfunny
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 am
41: Travis – That was really FUNNY
44 Peri
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:50 am
17. DogBitez–explain to the class, please, why you think this list is Christian-based when there is only one Christian item on the list???
45 archangel
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:01 am
cool list… only alexander seems to be the only plausible fake death here though IMHO. But all the rest are awesome conspiracies!
46 STL Mo
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:05 am
ChrisF – You had me worried with your #1 until I finished reading it! Nice.
And, my all-time favorite tabloid headline came in 1990: “Adolf Hitler captured in Argentine Port while trying to join up with Saddam Hussein.”
47 DiscHuker
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:06 am
dogbitez: you have a problem with Jesus being on a list about people rumored to be alive after death because you say it is lacking in fact? this ENTIRE list is lacking in fact due to the nature of the list. otherwise it would be called “top 10 people once thought dead who are now alive”.
leave your bias somewhere else.
nice work, chrisf, i was surprised to see elvis so high on the list. when i saw the title i thought he had to be #1.
48 sir Kakashi
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:22 am
that one about jesus is quite ridiculous ain’t it???? how come they wnna involve him {jesus) in this talk??
49 Tiki
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:36 am
John F. Kennedy should be on the list. Isn’t his brain still alive in an underground lab somewhere?
50 spence425
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 am
jimmy hoffa is another….though i suppose he doesn’t qualify as really famous prior to death.
he was the head of the teamsters union in the US and was supposedly killed by the mob, though his body has never been found.
to this day there are stories nearly every year that the authorities have found the location of his body, only to come up empty.
51 Nicosia
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:46 am
Really cool list! I love a good mystery… Alexander’s empty casket is by far the most intriguing. Wonder if he was able to start a new life for himself…
btw- There were a couple of men who claimed to be Billy the Kid after he died, the most well-known being “Brushy Bill” Roberts (of Young Guns 2 fame). He was later proven NOT to be Billy.
Oh, and like everyone else in Kentucky, Jesse James in my cousin
52 Nicosia
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:49 am
Speaking of Jimmy Hoffa- I saw a special (I think it was the history channel) about a house that was rumored to be the place where Hoffa was killed. They pulled up the wooden planks of the floor and found blood stains that matched Hoffa, so they know he was killed, but do not know where the body is. I’ll look for a link…
53 Mark
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:50 am
50. spence425 : I think Hoffa’s actually the opposite of this list, he is commonly believed to be deceased, but we can’t prove it can we?
54 Nicosia
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:50 am
Never mind… Just found several articles that said it was NOT Hoffa- So the mystery continues!
55 Nicosia
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:54 am
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,197501,00.html Here’s an article about Hoffa and the failed search.
56 Osama bin Laden
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:21 am
People of the West: You think I am dead? How can I be dead if I read these lists everyday! I’m living in Miami with my ‘hos drinking cognac and watching you stupid infidels look for me! Jfrater, one day you shall make a list of my doings.
p.s: Bush is gay and has been trying to hook up with me ever since I said NO to his daddy!
Travis: No I am not Jesus!!
Deviantmiss: Do you like older men? Powerful older men?? I can have a car pick you up and show you a great time!
57 jhoyce07
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:32 am
number 1?? it should not be a doubt..it is undoubtful…
58 smithstar15
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 am
The only 2 religious groups that believe in Jesus Christ are Christians and dead atheists.
59 callie_
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:41 am
The entire Romanov history always fascinated me. A collection of their possessions made it’s rounds here a couple years ago and it was one of the best displays I’ve ever seen- faberge eggs, golden hairbrushes, a blood stained handkerchief from one of Alexei’s injuries (he had hemophlia), and tons of stuff about Rasputin. It was really neat.
60 Gabriel Vargas
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:57 am
Colin Chapman should be in this list. The Lotus F1 Team was cogited to be here in Brazil (sorry for my bad English).
61 mormon_boy
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:58 am
You should note that it is not in the Mormon belief system that Jesus married Mary Magdalene, though we do believe he visited his “other sheep” in America, and indeed other parts of the world. I know there is also an interesting sect (can’t remember the name) that believes Christ moved to Japan and fathered children there…
62 JwJwBean
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:59 am
Nice list ChrisF. I think you did a great job including #1. I feel your paragraph underneath explains it all.
63 JwJwBean
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:03 am
He didn’t say it was the Mormons. He said “There are even some people who believe…”
I think I am starting to see where the problems with #1 are coming from. I do this all the time as well. People are reading the description too fast and getting it jumbled or not reading it at all so they can post a comment at how upset they are it is on there.
64 oouchan
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 am
Good list! Looks like this might get interesting with who’s listed at number 1. I might believe in Jim being around still, but the rest are dead and gone.
I did hear a few times that Princess Di was still around and that it wasn’t her in the limo. Don’t know how that one got started.
65 Sandra
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:08 am
Hehe, had a conversation about this the other day with my Uncle. The best Elvis sighting ever???
“Elvis is alive!!! I saw him at a casino in Vegas!!”
Yeah, one old woman actually said that to me and believed it was the real Elvis.
66 JwJwBean
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:14 am
26. Copaface – April 3rd, 2009 at 3:27 am [Report Abuse]
“I got well owned… I posted a comment like half an hour ago and now it’s not here…”
I am curious at what you posted that got deleted.
67 Mike B
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:14 am
And if there were a list of “Top 10 People Who Allegedly Existed, Reportedly Died, Supposedly Were Resurrected and Yet Mythically Are Still Alive”, Jesus would be #1 on THAT list too. There’s something powerful at work alright. It’s called human gullibility.
68 Higgs
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
What about Billy the Kid. Thats what Young Guns 2 was about.
69 Mr.Graves
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:17 am
Problem with #1 is that we have not scientificaly verified that the person existed (regardless of your belief system) while all others can be definitively verified through modern science and genealogy.
70 Mollie
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:25 am
Jim Morrison is most likely dead.
has anyone taken note on the autopsy pictures of 2pac ? their on rotten.com so I would say he is dead. Jesus is dead I don’t know why people insist on thinking other wise.
Cool list though
71 Bill
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:34 am
Bruce Lee is still alive! Chuck Norris’s attempt to kill him with Aspirin really failed. Bruce is in hiding to protect his friends and family from Chuck’s fury. He’s kept busy though, he types those clever fortunes you find in your fortune cookies and he’s lying low, waiting for the day he’ll exact a terrible vengeance on Chuck Norris…
Ok, I made that up. Bruce Lee’s really dead. That was a great list and good read ChrisF, I enjoyed it.
72 nipper
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:58 am
i was expecting to see elvis at number one on this list, it just seems that his story of still being alive is so much more famous than most of the others in the last 20 odd years
73 timmy the dying boy
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 am
This will be the funniest thing ever: One day, Rush Limbaugh will unzip pull off the rubber mask and unzip the fat suit and out will climb. . . Andy Kaufman!
74 timmy the dying boy
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:12 am
Ignore tha first “unzip.” Edit error. Oh, and while I’m here, I agree that Osama’s dead. He hasn’t made a video in that time, all we have is crummy audio tapes.
75 Mom424
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
JwJw and Copaface: I was in bed sound asleep. Neither of your comments are in moderation nor have they been tagged as spam. I haven’t deleted anything, it’s not my policy, nor is it Jamie’s. Geez, I hate problems before I’ve had my first coffee in the morning.
I will do some research and find out what’s going on.
76 gabi319
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:35 am
Actually, Mom, I’ve been noticing this comment issue for the past week in the tops commenters list. My peak was 320-something and am now at 260 comments. I know Anon had over 400 and he’s somewhere around 370 now… But that is NOT problem until after the coffee! They are merely numbers until then.
77 Kreachure
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 am
Nice list.
If I were Elvis, I’d be living in Vegas. With so many impersonators running about, no one would be the wiser!
78 Mom424
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 am
Interesting list Chris F.
I went to a LDS church when I was a teenager; we watched the movie about the gold plates and Jesus’ ministrations in North America. I was under the impression that Jesus was thought to have been in NA during the lost years; the times of Jesus’ life not illustrated in the bible; there is a big chunk of his life (teens and twenties) not commented upon.
Maybe someone can set me straight please?
79 GTT
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:19 am
Iain (42):
I was thinking of the Princes in the Tower the whole time I was reading this. There were so many pretenders claiming to be one of the two boys during the reign of Henry VII…
The Alexander I one is also fascinating (plus, I think that´s the only one with a real mystery to it). The grave was empty!
Great list ChrisF! Oh, and kuddos to most (notable exception DogBitez in 17)for refraining from the religion bashing.
80 jake ryder
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 am
What no Nicholas Flamel? A shame.
81 The Grey GOAT
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:30 am
Nice list. It always makes me wonder if any of these people ever actually pulled off faking death. Not likely, but still makes you wonder.
82 GTT
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:31 am
Oh wait, posted too slow… Mike B (67) joins the ranks of the notable exceptions.
*****
Mom424 (80): There are people who really believe this? I´m confused as to the details… Did he take a boat to NA? Who did he talk to there? Native Americans? There were no European monotheists at the time…
He came to the world in HUMAN form so it´s not like he could fly… And if they claim he could fly then how does his sacrifice make any sense? I mean, if he had the power to fly then he probably had the power to not feel any pain and if that was the case then it wasnt really a sacrifice on his part, was it? I´m confused…
83 Suskis
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:32 am
Elvism, Hitler and Jesus in the same list!!!
You win!
84 Zreul
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
No birthday for Jesus?
85 Joss
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
Odd, I’ve never heard the #1 thing. That is SO weird.
The story of Anastasia and her family has always been so heartbreaking to me. I prefer the cartoon story.
86 Mom424
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
GTT: Yes there are people who believe this. I’m curious as to the specifics myself – I didn’t think that LDS members believed his NA trip happened after his crucifixion but before. I’m looking for clarification.
And if Jesus did in fact part the Red Sea or multiply the fishes and bread or heal the lepers then an Atlantic or Pacific crossing should be a piece of cake eh?
87 QTKITTY
April 3rd, 2009 at 9:52 am
After John F Kennedy’s death rumors persisted that he was still inside the Dallas hospital, being kept alive on mysterious life support systems. No one wanted to believe he was gone and that was one way of dealing with it.
With Hitler, I think people wanted to believe he was alive so that he could be captured and brought to justice so that the verdict of death would be ours, not his. Regardless of method, his soul sizzles now.
88 segue
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Good job, Chris F, lots of interesting little tidbits of history to go and expand upon.
I could make longer comments on several o the items (from personal knowledge or family ties), but I’ll keep it to this one experience to do with Hitler/Nazi’s escaping to South/Central America.
Back in late 1991 I was working on a major shot for American Express. It was being shot mainly deep in Mexico, but the casting was done in Mexico City (Mexican Law dictates how many Mexican citizens must be hired for every non Mexican on the payroll). So we were casting actors, male and female.
The greatest number of actors, Mexican natural born citizens, were blond haired, blue eyed, pale complexioned, and German surnamed.
When asked, all said that their parents or grandparents “escaped” Germany after WWII. We found it odd and more than a little creepy being around the children of Nazi’s and war criminals, but hired them because they fit the role.
89 Cyn
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:06 am
jfrater
lo: hehe I should have mentioned it to everyone at the start At least now you know you can be lewd from now on
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Anon (89): I have suspended ALL moderation words and phrases with the exception of two or more URLs in a comment.
It is part of our recent big move to self-moderation.
So the number of comments is accurate.
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90 TEX
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:09 am
Hey great topic
Andy Kaufman – I was watching the night he came on the air and announced he had cancer, “Fridays” was the show I believe. I’ll be the first to admit I thought it was just another one of his jokes, until I heard not too long after he had died – I was shocked.
If you are familiar with Andy’s style, one of his favorite things was to involve the audience in his own practical jokes – and he did it brilliantly. One of his slight of hand performances was the invention of “Tony Clifton” the lounge singer. He had a rather elaborate costume made and he would show up at shows, in bars, and actually be booked and perform as Tony Clifton. At one point Tony became very insulting of Andy Kaufman, and would show up at one of Andy’s shows, come on stage and take over – of course Andy and Tony were never seen at the same time in the same place.
Enter Bob Zmuda, Andy’s writer and cohort. Finally, one night Tony’s on stage harassing the audience, who is shouting “We know it’s you Kaufman!”, and on walks Andy from the wing, the crowd is in shock – there’s Andy, who the hell is Tony Clifton? Bob Zmuda of course, at least in that place and time – next time who would they be seeing?
Now here’s where some of the living dead issue comes from – Tony Clifton continued to appear after Kaufman’s death! He even showed up for a fan wake right after Tony’s death. It was Bob Zmuda, of course, and if you’re in on the joke – it’s still funny – Andy Kaufman is still pulling a joke, even after his death – brilliant.
The question that I have never heard answered is – did Andy arrange all this with Bob just before his death???
91 Mom424
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
Cyn: The comment roll also updates itself. It counts for only a specific number of days. That is why the numbers change.
92 scandal007
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
Never heard of the Jesse James one before……thought the most famous Wild West tale of “not-really-dead” was Butch and Sundance.
Agree with others on here that the Alexander-I story is the most interesting and believable.
93 RandomPrecision
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:23 am
i’m suprised that elvis wasn’t number 1, but i really like jesus being included on here.
Silly mormons…
94 blackbit
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
An excellent and intriguing list,well said re #1
95 Cyn
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
94. Mom424 -
you’ll need to take that up w/ J. it was his comment that was quoted.
96 smithstar15
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
I’ve heard from a reliable source that Barney Frank is still alive.Brain-dead but still breathing.
97 YogiBarrister
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
Many Republicans believe Ronald Reagan is alive.
98 smithstar15
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
It’s a fact that Richard Nixon lives on. Liberals,liberal publications,TV situation comedies and late night comics will never let him die.
99 Maxx_the_Slash
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
Conspiracy theory time: Jim Morrison, Elvis Pressley, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and many other musicians of the 60′s and 70′s were all killed by the CIA because they’re music either did or could have influenced kids and teens to either revolt against their parents or encourage them to do drugs, and so were killed to prevent that from happening and their deaths were made to look like drug overdoses as a way to force people away from drug use.
100 geron
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
why is every jesus picture a white guy? its so untrue and everyone knows it. its only michelangelos cousin. since back then he had never seen a black man he drew what he knew. yet after aaaall these years people still refuse to cooperate with the bible
101 hsnbapi
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
by the way, why is Subash Chandra Bose not in the list…
Do U know the mystery of Subash Bose…
102 maximuz04
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I thought tupac would be much higher…. well it would be on my list… good list
103 Lifeschool
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
102: Dr Chud – is a troll.
Wow, I really like this list. Not very heavy on content, but interesting non-the-less. I always liked to believe happy old hitler had escaped somehow. Surely fillings, cavities and bridges can be replicated? Also, there are just too many dopplegangers out there, and a few notable people still use ‘em. I heard Saddam Hussain had many, and I can quite believe it. As someone posted, the chances of any of these people being alive now becoming more remote with every passing year. Hitler – how old would he be now? 100?
On the subject of these doubles, back to the stories. One day, when I was about 17 years old, I was walking up college along a road. I was very much half asleep, and the morning was rather cloudy and unusually quiet. I looked up to see a figure walking towards me. Being quite shy then, I concentrated on the ground until the figure was right up close. When I looked, he was me – a bit older, with more facial hair, but it was me..! I do not have a common face at all, not even in the slightest, and of course it didn’t sink in for a while what I had seen. I wish I could say at this point that when I looked back the figure had disappeared, but in truth I can’t recall much after that.
104 NiMur90
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Great List ChrisF. I’m usually excellent at guessing whose number 1 on these lists but I never thought of Jesus. I thought it would be Elvis haha.
105 NiMur90
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
*who’s
106 samfishers
April 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
well.. I think you forgot about einstein, JFK and lennon..
I Like conspiracy theories..
anyway it is a good list
107 SlashBeast
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Very interesting list.
I used to think 2Pac was alive and then as the years went on I began to feel that he died when he died. There’s still numerous people that believe he’s alive though, a lot of my friends do. Most of it stems from the 7 Day Theory and a variety of messages mainly in his last completed album that supposedly foretold his death.
I always love the Elvis is Alive thing, unfortunately the King is Dead.
108 whoopee
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:39 pm
How did he release eight albums after his death? I don’t get that.
109 Chris
April 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I thought for sure that the comments would get stupid for #1, But I am pleasantly surprised that they have remained civilized. There may just be hope for society after all.
110 bigski
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:02 pm
108 lifeschool-That`s a real creepy story.
111 Christy
April 3rd, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Jesus looks an awful lot like Zach Efron in that pic!
112 Shell
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Mormons believe Jesus visited the Native Americans sometime after his crucifixion and resurrection. It may have been at the same time he was visiting his disciples in Jerusalem, as there is quite a time difference and the NA account (Book of Mormon) says he always left at night and returned in the morning. Being a resurrected being would probably eliminate the need for sleep, as well as solving the travel issue. Just hop up to heaven and back down somewhere else.
113 nipper
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:23 pm
116 Christy- Yeah i was thinking about making up a list of similarities between Jesus and Zac Efron, theres just so much
114 Anon
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:29 pm
#1
“…But we are not talking about the resurrection aspect of Christ…went to America and taught the people there a new gospel. It is, of course, the Mormons who believe this.”
it is true that we mormons believe Jesus went to the America’s after his death, but this was after his resurrection and transfigured back into his glorified state.
so #1 contains false information. Because Jesus Christ was not alive when he went to the America’s he was ressurected
115 KK
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Mom, Jesus didnt part the red sea that was Moses..
Awesome list, I would’ve expected Elvis at number one but still pretty interesting.
116 Lethal Pixi
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:36 pm
i just got done watching something on the history channel about hitler and his surviving family. i had just started reading the list as it was going off!!
i didn’t know jim morrison was rumored to be alive. i have read ‘no one gets out of here alive’ that was written by their manager and ‘riders on the storm’ that was written by john densmore. very awesome books for any doors fan. cool list!!!
117 greenhoops
April 3rd, 2009 at 4:57 pm
YogiBarrister #100: No doubt they do, given that they seem to think George W is a sentient being…
118 MattBacera
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
The belief of Jesus Christ coming to the Americas in not as far-fetched as people might think. I mean, if he was in Europe the Middle East before and showed himself to be all powerful, what stops his from visiting the Americas?
119 Deucaon
April 3rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
http://www.barilochenazi.com.ar/english/introduction.htm
BAM!
120 Alencon
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:06 pm
1) I’m confident that Jimmy Hoffa will be found when they tear down Giant’s Stadium.
2) I feel reasonably confident that Jesus did not visit anyone in the Americas.
3) Elvis and Jim Morrision are both alive and living at the New Jersey shore. They hang out and play pool together at Shelby’s in Wildwood. They’re usually there every night during the off-season then disappear until the summer tourists leave.
121 Denzell
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
I predicted Jesus to be at no. 1.
122 fgh
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Jim Morrison and Alexander I are the only ones that are possible, as they died under unknown or suspicious circumstances and nobody ever saw their bodies or di DNA testing to confirm their remains.
123 labrat
April 3rd, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Q; why did hitler commit suicide?
A; you would too if you had a gas bill like that…
124 RandomPrecision
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
113. Whoopee – Tupac had an ubelievable amount of raps recorded before he died that hadn’t been released. Someone compiled them, and released them with his name. He also wrote a lot of poetry, some of which, if you’re interested, is really good. I think he is really underrated, and as time goes by he will stand out as possibly the best rapper ever.
125 Nicosia
April 3rd, 2009 at 10:51 pm
“Many Republicans believe Ronald Reagan is alive.”
Oh, if only….
126 p0q0r0
April 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Subas Chandra Bose shud’ve been there in this list.
127 kazana
April 4th, 2009 at 1:58 am
Interesting read..
128 hsnbapi
April 4th, 2009 at 7:09 am
why not modify it, and add 5 more persons in the list…..
and ya, this time,
don’t forget Subash Chandra Bose…
129 YogiBarrister
April 4th, 2009 at 8:56 am
smithstar15 #101, Richard Nixon is alive. At a liberal soccer game we decided to dig him up and use him for a ball. He jumped out of his grave and shouted at us.
“I AM NOT A SPOOK!
130 Jesskat
April 4th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Jim Morrison died in a bathtub in Paris. Pam came home one day to find him there. He’s definately dead.
I was listening to Coast to Coast one day and they had Ray Manzarek and Robbie Kreiger on there for an interview. During the open lines, a caller asked Ray if it would be a good idea to open Jim’s casket to refute all the rumors. Ray was like: “that’s disgusting! who would do such a thing. He’s dead.” That’s not exactly the quote but it was something like that.
131 segue
April 4th, 2009 at 10:05 am
135. Jesskat: I met Ray Manzarek about 15 years ago at a party, and at first I didn’t really want to talk to him, but finally just did. He was a charming guy, not at all pretentious, and neither of us brought up The Doors…although I soooooo wanted to.
I came away from the meeting knowing that he was a man who had been a fine friend, who would have tried to save Jim had he not gone off to Paris, cutting all ties.
Just my impression, you understand, but I’ve always been very good at first impressions. I worked in Hollywood where that talent is worth it’s weight in gold.
132 DKumar M.
April 4th, 2009 at 10:24 am
what about Osama Bin Laden…..
133 JwJwBean
April 4th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Osama Bin Laden is rumoured to be dead but is still alive (according to reports). I think that would make a great second list. Those still alive rumoured to be dead, like Mikey from the life commercials and Steve from Blue’s Clues.
134 Maggot
April 4th, 2009 at 10:39 am
135 Jesskat: That’s part of what’s caused the so-called mystery surrounding it. The only witness to that account was his junkie girlfriend. One of the (unsubstantiated) rumors, as alluded to in the list entry, is that he OD’d on heroin at a well-known nightclub, and the bathtub story was just a coverup. Who knows.
136 segue: Cool story. Manzarek always strikes me as a bit pretentious when I see him in interviews. He’s obviously an intelligent and well-spoken guy, but he seems to over romanticize the “Jim as genius/poet” angle as if it’s his personal mission to further Morrison’s legacy so he can continue riding his coat-tails. I say this as a huge Doors fan and Jim fan in particular, so in Ray’s defense, I realize the usual intent and context of those interviews is to draw that sort of stuff out. Btw, I mentioned in the recent cemeteries list that I visited Jim’s grave just this past January, a long-standing goal of mine finally achieved!
135 Alexa
April 4th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Actually I find it strange that people still believe or write about The Grand Duchess Anastasia as the child who got away when actually dna evidence showed that Crown Prince Alexei and Maria were missing from the spot where their family was killed. It was only until recently that they had dug up and confirmed that they found their remains in a place near by. So none of the Romanov family survived but I guess that didn’t stop people from hoping and ‘seeing’ them.
136 segue
April 4th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Maggot, a lot of those interviews are set ups, the interviewee is coached into how to present him/herself on a particular subject (especially when it has to do with past fame).
Away from the cameras and microphones Manzarek was just another guy (although I kept seeing him through the haze of time, on stage with The Doors at the Whisky a Go Go, where I was too young to be, but that never stopped me).
We had planned to go to Paris next year, but with the economy as it is, that plan, and my planned trip to Père Lachaise, is on hold. Probably scuttled.
137 ViewARandomList…
April 4th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
i think jesus died just like my hampster died just like my ipod died
138 segue
April 4th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
142. ViewARandomList, how did your ipod die? I depend on mine so much, I’d be heartbroken if it died, so I need to know what to avoid doing to it.
139 Ellery
April 4th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Elvis Presley still lives in all of us
and Jesus Christ still lives in some of us:)
140 Ellery
April 4th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
And I sure hope Adolf Hitler doesn’t still live in any of us.
141 Senor Shutter
April 4th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Cernunnos wrote:
“come on now! its common knowledge that Elvis lives on the dark side of the moon with all the Nazis who fled in their super-secret spacecrafts. its also no secret that Hitler is there too.”
Cernunnos is right! The Nazis ARE hiding on the moon! A film is even being made about it. Check it out. http://www.ironsky.net/site/
142 Winchester
April 4th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I find the circumstances surrounding Jim Morrison’s so-called death to be suspicious to say the least. If he did actually die then all I can say is what a waste.
143 Diogenes
April 4th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
Senor Shutter:
that would explain the SSufos.
- and they did save Hitler’s brain.
I guess my theory that Darth Vader would take bathroom breaks during battles (His private lavatory on the farside undiscovered until we made a surprise visit whith our satelites sent back fuzzy photos) is untrue.
Although, Ralph Macchio’s astral body IS meditating, lotus style, inside a lunar crater. Perhaps waiting for his chance to save mankind from a second invasion.
144 Senor Shutter
April 4th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Darth Vader lives in, “a galaxy far, far away”. Why would he have a secret bathroom in our galaxy on our moon? That’s one hell of a commute just to take a dump!!!
145 Diogenes
April 4th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
precisely. Why indeed. I meant to add “secluded”. My reasoning is that he has “stations planted” through out the known galaxies, so that when in deep doo-doo, he can veer off course and “hide” behind a convenient dark side with a dark behind side of his own.
146 Diogenes
April 4th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
like a “stop and go” off the highway
147 ViewARandomList…
April 4th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
segue i think my ipod has a stroke when i dropped is
148 segue
April 4th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
152. ViewARandomList: segue i think my ipod has a stroke when i dropped it
****
That would do it. Yeah, I can see that.
Luckily, I’m not very clumsy.
But…but…but…didn’t you have the clip attached to your shirt or jacket or t-shirt or pocket? Mine is always clipped.
Maybe I’m just obsessive.
149 bearglove
April 4th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Why the religious bent on Listverse? This is at least the second time a mythical figure has been cited in a historically-themed list. Jesus never existed, so being included on a list concerning otherwise historical figures that were factual persons is just ludicrous. I’m sure there are at least a couple dozen more people you could have chosen for this list, but Jesus? Respect our intellect a bit more.
150 KK
April 4th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Jesus existed, we may not know whether or not he was Gods son or all that jazz, but there were records of him existing.
151 bearglove
April 5th, 2009 at 6:02 am
@155-not true. no credible historian mentions Jesus once in any of their works. Josephus is the most commonly cited(the closest to Jesus’ supposed life, that could have started anywhere from 12b.c.-8 a.d.), and that has long been regarded as blatant forgery(probably on behalf of the pope).
I believe the list from a couple of days ago cited Peter’s struggle with something or other, and mentions that he existed in the time of Jesus. In reality Paul never mentions Jesus as being a physical being, merely spiritual, and leaves out about 80% of Jesus legend(no virgin birth, no stable, no dying on the cross).
The closest possible historical person who may have been the namsake for Jesus was a man named Yeshua di Nostra(joshua from nostra), and he lived in 83bc(i believe) and was killed by being hung upside down from a tree.
in reference to inspiration for the Jesus legends, refer to nearly all pre-christian pagan religions(mithras, osiris, etc.)
152 Andyb123
April 5th, 2009 at 7:31 am
What about Dillinger ? The photos of him on the slab looks really weird. And I’m amazed people actually saw Young Guns 2.
153 YogiBarrister
April 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
I’m not sure if Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid even qualify for this list. Rumors of their deaths in Bolivia are about as credible as the rumors of their return to the States.
154 bosoxrule148927
April 5th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
bearglove: No credible historian mentions Jesus? That is just a flat out lie.
155 bearglove
April 5th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
@bosoxrule148927 name one that was even close to timeline in which he was supposedly alive, or name an historian that doesn’t cite the forged Joesphus text…
There were a few notable historians alive during the time of Jesus, and none of them mention him, Ptolemy even mentions OTHER self-proclaimed “messiahs”, so you’d think he’d mention Jesus as well. Furthermore, Jesus was supposedly from Nazareth, a place that didn’t exist until centuries after his life(I believe the 4th century A.D. is when Nazareth came into being).
156 3litE
April 6th, 2009 at 12:21 am
As a Christian, Jesus Christ is still ALIVE. He’s watching us in heaven.
157 deviantmiss
April 6th, 2009 at 12:37 am
@JFrater where is the top 10 most unexplained common illnesses gone? was here yesterday???
158 Kazorek
April 6th, 2009 at 3:57 am
Jesus is throwin up the deuces in that picture
159 Cybogen
April 6th, 2009 at 7:17 am
17. DogBitez -If you had the knowledge of what is real and what is false you would see that Jesus is the most real person of history that ever lived. In fact HE is still alive today! Take a look around and see for yourself!
160 segue
April 6th, 2009 at 10:18 am
162. deviantmiss: @JFrater where is the top 10 most unexplained common illnesses gone? was here yesterday???
****
Every day there is a new list put up. The old list is still active, but you just have to go to the home page and go to “recent lists”. You’ll find it there.
161 oouchan
April 6th, 2009 at 10:26 am
165. segue: It isn’t there either. 2 of the recent lists are gone.
162 Cyn
April 6th, 2009 at 10:44 am
162. deviantmiss 165. segue 166. oouchan
see comments @ today’s list.
163 Maggot
April 6th, 2009 at 11:06 am
cyn: they were ‘archived’
Well that sure clears things up.
Btw, I’m a little upset that I can’t discuss my favorite movie and Robert De Niro character with going thru moderation now.
I know, I know…talk to J…
164 Cyn
April 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
168. Maggot -
cyn: they were ‘archived’
Well that sure clears things up.
~ ~ ~
J has since commented & ‘cleared up’ the actions he took w/ the lists. now it should be ‘clear’ to all of us, including me… what happened to those lists.
165 scandal007
April 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
YogiBarrister (158)
You mean Butch & Sundance are still alive? YAY!!!!!!
166 leXie
April 6th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
From the beginning I knew Adolf Hitler and Princess Anastasia would expexted to be on the list…..
167 3litE
April 6th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
I second the motion with @Cybogen.
168 hippie
April 8th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Jesus was never a real person so why is he even on the list?
169 cymraegbachgen87
April 8th, 2009 at 10:32 am
173 – there is more evidence that jesus existed than there is for the existance of julius ceasar. Whether or not he was the son of god is debatable.
170 j
April 8th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
It amazes me that there are people that think that Jesus never existed, whether they agree with Christianity or not. I guess its ignorance.
171 maverick
April 8th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
jesus is real person as mentioned in bible and other historical books
read the bible and u find out more
172 mythshift
April 8th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Hey hippie, look at the image of Christ. Look at Him into the eyes, then say, “Your FAKE!”.
do it.
and let the conscience kill you.
I agree with Cybogen!
173 hippie
April 8th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
@maverick, the bible is a fictional book. don’t you think if a guy could heal the sick,walk on water, and turn water in wine someone in history would say “hey, maybe we should write this shit down!” Jesus is known no where in history except in the bible. We have records of kings waaay before jesus was supposedly born, but no records of a man name Jesus. Except the bible of course. Educate yourself, you mindless christian. Just because he’s mentioned in a book makes him a real person? Santa claus is mentioned to in books, but is he real?
@mythshift, you got alot to learn too. Jesus Christ, you’re are not real. happy? here’s something you can educate yourself with. Religion (in general) is the bane of human existence. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9002284641446868316
Why are we at war? because of religion. Why is there hatred in this world? because of religion.
174 bearglove
April 9th, 2009 at 5:00 am
“Much of Caesar’s life is known from his own Commentaries (Commentarii) on his military campaigns, and other contemporary sources such as the letters and speeches of his political rival Cicero, the historical writings of Sallust, and the poetry of Catullus. Many more details of his life are recorded by later historians, such as Appian, Suetonius, Plutarch, Cassius Dio and Strabo.”
from wikipedia-which isn’t reliable in itself, but when paired with over 100 references, some of which from Caesar’s time period, some shortly thereafter, and many written by Caesar HIMSELF is tons and tons more proof of his existence than the Bible(a cobbled together text written over the course of centuries, also compiled by a council of religious leaders, excluding many) does of proving the existence of Jesus. Read about the Gnostics and other old-world Christians-they don’t even view Jesus as a historical figure and they were the FIRST christians-that should tell you something right there.
http://www.pocm.info/ has a lot of information concerning this as well. Educate yourself.
175 Cybogen
April 9th, 2009 at 5:52 am
178. hippie – I read your post and you mentioned that Jesus is only mentioned in one book. I believe there’s other books he is also mentioned in as well, Evenso, if it were only the Bible he is mentioned in and the bible happens to be the best selling book in the world over that of any other book written don’t you think there is some significance to the facts held in the Bible that Jesus was real and did exist. If it was all fake then I would say that there were amny men who were behind writing the bible at different eras of time they were all thinking of writing a made up story of a man of all the same detailed information written by each person of the Bible. Each of the 4 gospels written by Mark, Luke John and Matthew are very close in detail but they were not know to each other. There is just too much evidence to support their stories to be true than to think its fake.
Jesus is the Son of GOD and lived the life as written. He was born of a virgin and became man. Preached his message of Love and his fathers kingdom of heaven. He suffered and died for our sins rose from the dead and appeared to his family and disciples on countless occasions after his death before ascending into heaven to be with his Father until HE comes again to gather his people to be with him forever in Heaven. Its the whole truth and its supported.
176 oouchan
April 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am
180. Cybogen: “Its the whole truth and its supported.”
That’s only if you believe in that stuff. He might have been a real person, but I don’t believe in god or the rest of it. So to say it’s the truth…that again only implies if you believe in it.
177 Cybogen
April 9th, 2009 at 8:42 am
181. oouchan – You are correct to say that Truth is only truth if you believe it. It is relative to who calls it the truth and I know not everyone believes in God or Jesus. I can accept that they have their right to believe as they wish. I just believe that I should defend my beliefs if they are questioned with reasons and facts.
It does not matter at all to me if I was the only one alive on earth that still believed in GOD or Jesus. I would continue to still believe. We all tend to defend what we believe which confirms our commitment.
178 oouchan
April 9th, 2009 at 9:23 am
182. Cybogen: I agree. We should defend what we believe in or at least back it up.
And I am glad that you are willing to let others believe what they want. I have met so many that believe in god, but attack me personally because I don’t. It’s because of those types of attitudes that makes religion to me, so sickening. I’m ok with whatever is out there, just don’t convert me.
Case in point…I brought up in another list that my kid is now babtist. She can do that because that is her belief. I on the other hand follow the Shinto religion that Japanese do. Since it’s so relaxed, it fits me perfectly. Each one of us respects the others views. We talk a little about each others religion but only on a high level. This is because, I had that stuffed down my throat when I was a kid. Totally warped me. I still twitch when her friend starts quoting the bible to me. But that is me..not her. As long as each of us are allowed to believe what we will in regards to religion, then no harm is done.
179 Maggot
April 9th, 2009 at 9:24 am
182 Cybogen: Simply believing something to be true does not in and of itself make it true. I’m not bashing your belief in god here, just your reasoning about what makes something “true”. My statement applies to anything.
180 cymraegbachgen87
April 9th, 2009 at 9:39 am
The fact that three separate world religions recognise the existance of christ, if not his divinity, points to the fact that the MAN existed. Personally I doubt his divinity. If he was so divine why did he only heal people he stumbled across in the street? lol
PS, R.e Wiki. I have to laugh when it places his current hometown as Israel!
(for those who check that yes I know it is merely me twisting words)
181 Cybogen
April 9th, 2009 at 9:40 am
183. oouchan – Thanks for your response! You make a good point about your respect to your beliefs and to other peoples beliefs. I find that to be open minded and the world would be a better place if everyone thought the way you do. I know in some other countries (which I won’t mention to prevent hostilituies here)that if you do not believe in their religion you could be targeted for death. I think that is totally wrong of course. I do not believe any religion should call for execution of those who do not conform or believe otherwise. That is where I think its gone to extreme and no person should have to suffer death because of this.
We should all have our rights to believe or not believe whatever we wish.
182 cymraegbachgen87
April 9th, 2009 at 9:41 am
It seems to me, however, if christ DID return, most of us would treat him as a crazy.
183 Maggot
April 9th, 2009 at 9:45 am
186 Cybogen: We should all have our rights to believe or not believe whatever we wish.
I doubt you’d find anyone here who would disagree with that.
184 oouchan
April 9th, 2009 at 9:48 am
186. Cybogen: See! I knew I was going to like you!
And it’s just sick that there are countries and/or religions that if you don’t believe, you die. That is horribly sad. How can we be human and think that way?
Ok…now for a funny…My friend is Lutherin. We pick on each other’s religion not to be mean, but to be funny. It helps us cope. The reason is because I had it stuffed down my throat and so did she. We became jaded and it was hard to get past it. But there is humor in everything. Like her religion believes the pope is the antichrist. I laughed for about 10 minutes on that one. But then she laughed that I follow a god of food and rice! See, it helps when we can laugh about this, instead of shouting insults or comparing who is better than who.
185 oouchan
April 9th, 2009 at 9:56 am
187. cymraegbachgen87: You got a point there. Humans are ever so distrustful. I know it’s a dumb comparison, but the movie “The Day the Earth Stood Still” is a classic example of that. He would step up and someone out there would shoot him.
186 Cybogen
April 9th, 2009 at 10:18 am
I think there are many religions out there with people all following the structure of the doctrine the religion uses as their foundation. I know that some of the religions fizzle out to smaller congregations as to what the principles of the religion represent. Its strange how religious issues can be the fuel behind many conflicts around the world when most of them commonly speak of love and peace as their focus.
187 bearglove
April 10th, 2009 at 5:20 am
“three world religion’s recognize his existence is proof of his existence”-paraphrased, but basically what was said.
Circular logic. Three world religions(I’m assuming you’re referring to Judaism, Christianity, and Muslimism(or whatever the proper term is))-All of which operate form the same FICTIONAL source text-the old testament/torah.
There would be a fourth in Mormonism that believes his existence, but there’s also every Asian religion that doesn’t acknowledge his existence, so that’s just as equal proof that he doesn’t exist, according to your circular logic anyways.
I have no problem with a person believing what they want to believe, but when it comes down to being historically accurate you should not cite people who AREN’T REAL.
As far as I’m concerned, this list could have just as easily contained J.R. from Dallas, Brisco County Sr., or any number of soap opera characters, since they’re fictional, and Jesus is as well. But they’re not, because everyone knows their fictional. The author included a person who should not have been on here regardless, as the Christian mythos is that Jesus has ascended to heaven to sit at the right hand of his father until judgement day. Christians KNOW that he is alive/ascended/risen/whatever-there is no guesswork, no mystery involved. It just is this way for Christians.
Regardless, citing the bible for facts is like the mass hysteria following the radio broadcast of “War of the Worlds” being used as a justification for shooting trespassers.
188 Cybogen
April 10th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Great List Chris F.- You sighted all in your list who are real and factual people. I like how you recognize the truth here.
189 stangarang
April 10th, 2009 at 6:16 am
@189: wait the pope isnt the antichrist? hah
190 Cybogen
April 10th, 2009 at 7:31 am
@189: wait the pope isnt the antichrist? On belief of who the anti-christ really is? The Antichrist person will rise up..many believe in Europe but not necessarily so.
He will bring about a sense of character that wants peace in the world especially in Israel. As mentioned in Revelation. ” He will make a 7 year covenant with Israel and break it off midway through, 3 1/2years.” Then he will desecrate the Holy Temple and claim himself to be GOD himself.
He will then bring about tyranny and a dictatorship type of government in attempt to rule the entire world and will have moderate success for a period. Then some countries will see through his dark plan and try to destroy his power but fail. The conflict will continue on until Jesus will come again soon after this and anihilate the AntiChrist and Satan and throw them into the lake of Fire (Hell) forever. The antichrist is yet to be identified.
191 bearglove
April 10th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
The antichrist is(or has been) EVERY leader that Christians disagree with. The Antichrist doesn’t and will never exist. No more likely than Atlas dropping the Earth would cause the world to end.
192 oouchan
April 10th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
195. Cybogen: I don’t believe in any of that, remember? My friend does. I get a laugh out of that and she gets a laugh out of me liking Inari. I posted that already. Not sure where you were going with your post. Are you saying you agree or not agree with my friend?
193 bajumba
April 11th, 2009 at 9:04 am
You guys should know……..muslims believe Jesus never died and is still alive……in heaven ofcourse. Some look-alike died in his place.
194 laaakc
April 11th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
heath ledger?
195 rocco
April 12th, 2009 at 5:18 am
Me….if they only knew……
196 Baxter
April 12th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Interesting list. I was especially fascinated by Alexander I, I’ve never heard about that one before… sounds like the only one that may have any veracity to it.
197 Rocktoy79
April 12th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
To bearglove-Apparently you’ve never heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls. They are texts that were found in a cave in the middle east that contain the actual writings of most of the Old Testament. Therefore, the Bible is not some made up fairy tale.
The fact that Jesus was from the lineage of King David fulfills prophecy. Every fact of his life fulfilled Old Testament prophecy. His birth, his miracles, his death. All four gospels were written by different men and they all contain the same stories and the same facts about Jesus yet they were written by different men, at different times and under different circumstances. The odds of this are astounding.
The fact that people were killed in unspeakable ways because they were followers of Jesus only proves they were following a real person, not a ghost. Peter was crucified upside down. John was boiled alive in a vat of hot oil. Others were dragged alive through the city streets and hung. Nobody would allow themselves to endure that if Jesus wasn’t real.
Believing in Jesus is based on faith. You either believe in something you cannot prove or you don’t believe. To argue about it is rather pointless. Each person will find out the day they die if Jesus really sits at the right hand of God. I personally have accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior and I believe He is who He claims to be. I look forward to meeting Him. I have read the Bible through from cover to cover three times. I have studied the scriptures extensively. I believe that all prophecy has been fulfilled and that Jesus will return in my lifetime. But that’s me and my faith. What you choose to believe or not believe is up to you.
Guys like Jim Morrison and Elvis liked the fame and fortune too much to fake their deaths. Lady Dianna would never leave her boys like that. I always thought Andy Kauffman was repulsive and if he’s dead, that’s fine by me. JFK could have survived but I’d love to see him and what he looks like. I don’t trust my government so they could have sealed him away somewhere with RFK and John Lennon.
198 cymraegbachgen87
April 12th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Rocktoy,
what about the various gospels about jesus which were ommitted from the bible at the first council of nicaea (when the bible was compiled) because they made him appear mortal, and NOT the son of any god?
As I have said to a number of other people. The NT is NOT infallible. It is written by man and for man, edited by man and for man, and as it was passed on without the use of scanners or computers, it was copied inaccurately – particularly when the language was changed.
As a result the KJV version bears only a passing resemblence to the DSS, and other ancient texts.
199 cymraegbachgen87
April 12th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
In fact, don’t bother answering. Faith, by its definition, requires the suspension of logic and available scientific evidence. There is nothing I can say to sway you.
200 cymraegbachgen87
April 12th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
“The fact that people were killed in unspeakable ways because they were followers of Jesus only proves they were following a real person, not a ghost.”
Real? Yes. Divine? NO.
It just proves that fledgling christianity, before it was adopted by the roman empire, was seen as a threat to stability, and practisers were killed.
Just as christianity attempted to do in france during one of the crusades when people stopped following christ as divine.
But of course that is glossed over…
201 Rocktoy79
April 12th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Oh, and I forgot, there are extensive claims that Paul McCartney died in November of ’66 in a car crash. When you compare pictures of Paul before the supposed crash to pictures after the crash, there are remarkable changes. How did he grow two inches over night? Also there are pictures of Paul playing guitar right handed and smoking a cigarette right handed when he was a lefty. Also, the Beatles stopped touring right after the supposed crash. Why? Paul’s fiance left him right after the supposed crash and the Beatles left numerous hints of his death on their last four albums. The stand in look alike, a man from Canada, mysteriously came up missing in November of ’66 and has never been found. The day Paul supposedly died there was no newspaper printed. Remember in Lady Madonna where the lyrics are “the paper didn’t come?” There’s an entire website devoted to the conspiracy. Don’t know it but it is quite a read! Makes you wonder. I personally don’t believe it because if Paul really did die in ’66, the stand in look alike wouldn’t have formed Wings and gone on tour and placed himself in front of the public for fear of being found out.
202 oouchan
April 12th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Rocktoy79, please tell me you don’t actually believe Paul is really gone? That’s the same as believing no one landed on the moon. just saying….
203 gabi319
April 12th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
202. Rocktoy79 – “The fact that Jesus was from the lineage of King David fulfills prophecy.”
You all can argue until you’re blue in the face about historical Jesus vs. mythical Jesus but that comment up there….
What prophecy are you talking about, Rocktoy? The prophecy in Micah? It is often used as the excuse for the existence of a mythical Jesus but the prophecy implies a military leader who defeats the Assyrians. Jesus was a carpenter and then a teacher and most definitely did not wage war with the Assyrians.
If you’re referring to the “revisions” made by Matthew… well then, that is not Old Testament and so technically not a prophecy….
And it drives me crazy that the idea of death and eternal damnation is how to prove the superiority over the rest of us nonChristians. Try something new for a change.
…I try really hard to make it a point not to attack another’s faith without first being provoked, but I can only put up with so much of seeing that “we find out when we die who is right” phrase…
204 cymraegbachgen87
April 12th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
“but I can only put up with so much of seeing that “we find out when we die who is right” phrase…”
I just think that christianity is bumkum backed up with great spin and a fantastic publicist!
Paying now for something we don’t get until after we die! Even pension plans aren’t that harsh.
205 Cybogen
April 13th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Rocktoy79 -well said in comment #202
206 erik
April 20th, 2009 at 2:58 am
Actually you have made a mistake. it is not the mormons who believe that Jesus Christ taught the gospel to the people of the south america continent. It is in fact the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who teach this, and they do not believe that they taught a new gospel rather that he taught the same gospel as he did to the Jews.
207 jfrater
April 20th, 2009 at 3:28 am
erik: perhaps you can explain the difference between the mormons and the LDS… And considering he taught the doctrine of the trinity to the Jews, it hardly matches the LDS views
208 Erik
April 21st, 2009 at 7:11 am
I would love to explain the difference between the religions. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day siants has had many people through out it’s history break away from it to start their own churches. such examples are the RLDS, or the FLDS churches. Unfortunately all three of these churches are often confused for one another under the same name of ”mormons” when in fact the actual name ”mormon” belongs to none of these churches as their proper name it is simply a nick name that has been given to each. And concerning the statement that Christ taught the trinity to the Jews is common misbelief. If indeed God the Father and Jesus Christ as well as the Holy Ghost are one person why is it that Christ prays to God, and why is it that Christ says that he is come to do the will of the Father that sent him. Clearly it is easy to see that Christ and God the Father are not the same person and we see that in fact christ did not teach the trinity to the jews.
209 Mormon_boy
April 21st, 2009 at 9:34 am
Erik, I think jfrater was just referring to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints by its nickname to make it easier for people to recognize, though people do mix it up with other religions frequently (most recently the FLDS in the papers out west). It’s a common misnomer, and helps those who don’t know understand what you are talking about. But yes, jfrater, we do believe Christ taught the same in the americas as in Israel. What is your reference that Christ taught the Catholic concept of the trinity to the Jews?
210 377518263
May 24th, 2009 at 11:11 am
probably ( actually totally ) a bit off subject here, but is that a real photo of hitler, cause i mean, i woulda thought for a guy who wanted world domination and all, he wouldn’t be the type to pose for photos sitting around reading a newspaper, smiling. Just makes him seem like a grandfather you know, not like, hitler.
211 MORMON teengirl
May 30th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
It should be noted that mormons DO NOT in fact believe that Christ visited the Americas while He was living. We believe that he was in His resurrected state when He visited the Americas. We also belive that he taught the same principles and gosple there that he did in the Bible. Anyone with questions regarding the truthfulness of these statement may visit the official mormon (lds) website at http://www.lds.org. There are many rumors circulating about the mormon faith that are NOT TRUE. I suggest that you find out for yourself what members of the LDS church actually believe.
212 Trish
June 21st, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Kurt Cobain..????
213 generic_account
June 26th, 2009 at 9:18 am
I’m thinking of Michael Jackson here. His death IS still a mystery, right? Anyway, rest in peace, Jacko.(August 29, 1958 – June 25, 2009)
214 VOM
June 30th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Thanks for (sortof) being respectful towards Christians with the #1, although having Christ classified into a “rumored” category betrays some bias. Christ HAS risen, this fact has been verified and testified to by many witnesses as recorded in the Bible, and this truth is made manifest in the lives of believers through the message of the Holy Spirit.
215 believer
July 1st, 2009 at 6:23 pm
do you have something against mormons
216 Kitkat
August 9th, 2009 at 8:02 am
wow cool list. 10 year old kid…17 year old girl…Hitler who shoulda died sooner…yeah!
217 xlouisx
August 11th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I demand a recount on behalf of Keith Richards
218 Boo
August 21st, 2009 at 1:36 am
@ smithstar (58): That was AWESOME!! =]
219 imagineforlennon
October 21st, 2009 at 12:03 am
@ #7 koussy Why John? I mean i understand the theory of the Government taking him out using Mark David Champman but possibly still alive? Although it would be a wonderful thing to still have John around I don’t think its possible. Especially with Yoko. She was so controlling over him when he was married to her I don’t think she’d stand by and go with the “John was shot” bit (if it is a bit) Plus John was already feeling very guilty about abandoning Julian. I don’t think he could live with himself by “dieing” and not still trying to build a relationship.
On a side note I kinda thought maybe Paul McCartney would be on this list (I don’t believe he’s dead) It would of been interesting to read. Poor guy. Walks across Abbey Road bare foot holding his ciggy in the “wrong” hand and BAM! he’s pronounced dead. LOL!
I also thought Elvis would of been # 1 But typical religion swoops in and takes the cake.
220 Anonymouls
October 21st, 2009 at 3:48 am
What about Christopher Reeve and his wife Dana? IF any two have faked their deaths it’s these two!! Think about it.
221 jewditzsue
October 21st, 2009 at 5:17 am
didn’t Hitler’s supposed skull end up being a female’s skull?
222 eminem
October 22nd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
tupac 4 life fuck the rest (except maybe jesus)
223 Sapphonic
November 8th, 2009 at 11:22 am
What about Manic Street Preachers guitarist Richey Edwards? He has been missing for years, they think he might be death but there have been claims of his sightings in Asia…
224 Lindsey B.
December 10th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
At this point, you can add Michael Jackson since until now, his death is looked upon as a mystery especially when his coffin vanished after his memorial at Staples and no one saw it despite the dozens of papparazzis on the scene. The real reason of his death was also not published. It is also obvious that he wanted to live in private. A website also said that allegedly he didn’t want to do the 50 concerts scheduled for him.
225 bunny
January 3rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
I heard Elvis Presley was involved in some really bad people like the New World Order, free masons, Illuminati. I also heard they were people who weren’t very happy about how WWII turned out. French and Russian spies ( the British too?). Whoever they are tho they captured him, (he was wired since 1969, when Lisa was only one), Joe Esposito was the spy who was sent after him. Elvis shouldn’t have been sent in the Army, he had big flat feet and that was a set up by this organization for him to join the Army. Really for him to meet Joe Esposito and separate him from his mother. This group purposely killed his mother by slipping her LSD, (drugs) which she self medicated herself which made her condition much worse then being sent to one of their bad doctors who made her worse too. I heard she would have lived 15 years more if they weren’t doing what they did to her. Dee Stanley was a set up to get Vernon out of the house and cause a riff between them too. They did this to isolate Elvis. They hate Americans. They hate American actors and entertainers. I also heard they hate the Irish. They forced him to do favors for them. Like steal badges for instance.
Then they told me after his death he was really
in Columbia South America with the Chiquita Banana woman eating Banana Creme Pies and he wears a hat with pom poms all the way around it. they made me make some of that up with them. YOu never know with these crazy Brits tho. Or whoever they are.
He’d do anything for his little girl Lisa. They waited until she was a year old.
But really these people would kill at the drop of a hat. They are the reason the cancer rate is so high. They like to kill that way. They were behind the whole Michael Jackson and Farrah Fawcett deaths too on the same day.
That’s the truth. They are the ones behind Marlon Brando and his family too.
I also heard they recruit people who were in the psyche center with legit illnesses and made them appear completely normal on the outside. That’s why they have never been caught. I heard Obama and Holden are theirs. They got them in office and something big is going to happen in the year 2012.
Joe is very Evil. He would drug everyone around him to control them. He’s really a psychopath. I heard Linda is one also. She covers it up very well. Ginger was a set up too. Michael Lockwood is a set up for Lisa including her having those twins. (planned by them). Mind control techniques.
Elvis was murdered. I believe he is very dead.
Ask Juanita and Cliff Kipp of Hudson, nY what they know about them. They know a lot. They found out because they witnessed a young girl on a motorcycle with the King one afternoon. They were lucky they lived in Hudson because it saved them. They have safe havens around the USA for people to run too. You have to find out where they are is all. Their lives where saved but what they witnessed on the motorcycle that day was unfortunate. Because now they are working for them too. They were at their home before they even got back to Hudson that day being terrorized.
226 Candy
January 8th, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Heelloo… Richy Edwards from Manic Street Preachers?! Totally crazy.
227 Candy
January 8th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Sorry..! I jus noticed someone else wrote thats. Hehe
228 PT123
January 14th, 2010 at 4:08 pm
Another Person You can add there, is Michael Jackson!!!, I mean there are still people out there that are saying that he’s still alive, and his death was a complete hoax!!!
229 MamaBear2Cubs
January 19th, 2010 at 12:13 am
The remains of Anastasia were recently found and positively identified. Her and I believe her brother graves were not with the rest of the family which is odd and I wonder what the reason for the serperation was.
*Forgive me if this was already mentioned*
230 slashteddy
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:08 am
I personally have seen several documentaries on multiple channels (Discovery, History, et al) mentioning recent reports about newly conducted tests discovering the second skull found in Hitler’s bunker was female. This was a long time ago, however, and I haven’t had cable in quite a while. If these documentaries are true, he could very well have gone underground or escaped or some such thing. Whether or not he’s still alive doesn’t matter much to me; if he was hell-bent on causing more destruction, I feel like people would have noticed. He would have tried to gain another position of power, and I don’t think even Hitler could try to be, ah… anti-Hitler. It would be too obvious.
So I guess he either really died in the bunker, escaped and died some other way some years later, or sat around hating the world until he died of old age. Any way it did happen, he couldn’t have been a happy camper, and that’s good enough for me. And if there is an afterlife, the jerk is going to suffer.
231 Nick
January 22nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm
I liked the list but no “DB [Dan] Cooper?”
232 jesus is my life
January 25th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
all of you guys talking bout jesus and questioning bout his exzistince and what he did …your simply lost you dont have anything good to live for …jesus is the life itself the love, jesus is the god himself,, he loves us all(all people in this world)that he created, and we all gona meet him one day to live the eternity with no pain no suffering to meet the ones who left us and already there , guys jesus loves you believe in him and youll be happy now and forever,,everything with jesus will come true anything you imagine, no hardways always easyways …dont fear death coz death is just the path to our souls to go back to the saviour …..i love jesus and i pray every minute for him to stay in my heart and lead me to good things in life …..love you jesus christ…please all you people read the bible and open your heart to jesus and everything in your life will be good …
233 Vhazhiphor
April 20th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
How about Emiliano Zapata? It’s rumored that the person almost literally shot to pieces was a double he set up because he’d been notified of the plans to kill him, and since the body wasn’t quite recognizable after the act (or so I heard in history class), it is possible he just went into hiding.
234 kid
April 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
@koussy [7]: he was shot in front of people…. they knew it was him and i dont hear anybody say or ever say they think he is alive. RIP
235 Will Trame
May 3rd, 2010 at 11:21 am
I have heard that Jim Morrison is now a cowboy living somewhere in California. There was a book published in 1974 0r 1975 that opined that Morrison was a mild-mannered Louisiana banker. An intriguing scenario would be as follows: permission is finally granted to exhume Morrison’s remains from Pere Le Chaise. The coffin is unsealed, and 250 pounds of sand and bricks greet the observers’ eyes. Which would logically raise the question….where the hell is Jim???
The Elvis myth too has been resoundly echoed. Another fact fueling that particular fire is that his middle name is misspelled on his grave. It’s Aron, not Aaron.
This is the first that I have heard of Andy Kaufman. Or was it Tony Clifton that actually passed?
The Paul McCartney rumor entailed that he actually died in an automobile accident in November 1966 following a bitter blow-up with the other Beatles as they began the sessions for “Sgt Pepper” at Abbey Road Studios.
236 Anon
July 10th, 2010 at 10:26 am
I’m Canadian, and even I was hurt by these 9/11 “jokes”.
237 goldc
July 15th, 2010 at 4:37 pm
jesus is alive. i saw him as a burn on my toast the other day