In politics it’s not too hard to make friends and enemies at the same time. In art, it’s a little bit harder. There are a number of artists who frequently make the “best of” lists but most rational people don’t argue their merit. The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are typically at the top in classic rock, and even their critics don’t place usually place them farther than top 20. Move a little farther down and you’ll find Jimi Hendrix and The Who where most will agree if they’re not the all-time greatest, at least they’re not horrible. Bruce Springsteen may not be everybody’s favorite, but most rock fans appreciate what he does. This list is specifically made up of groups who have a large contingent of rabid supporters, yet they also have a large number of devoted detractors. People are passionate for them, or passionate against them.
Captain Beefheart earns the coveted 10 spot despite being the most obscure artist on my list due in part to the fact that even when people rave about him it sounds like they’re putting him down. His most famous album, Trout Mask Replica, consistently earns a spot in the obligatory music magazine’s “Top 50 Albums” while the reviewer uses words such as incomprehensible, inaccessible, indescribable and unlistenable. His sometime producer and biggest name supporter was no less of a cult figure than Frank Zappa. Beefheart further earned a special place by having possibly the best pure singing voice on this list, and by the way that he used it.
Google hits: “Captain Beefheart” 4,200,000; “Captain Beefheart Sucks” 177,000 (4.2%)
Metallica suffers from a similar fate of U2. They started losing die-hard fans just as their commercial popularity peaked. As their style evolved from speed thrash to epic heavy metal, many long-time listeners found other places to bang their heads. The migration increased when they took sides with the record companies in the fight over music trading, and culminated with the authorized documentary of their trials and tribulations while being guided by a relationship counselor. Singer James Hetfield makes his biggest headlines these days when he’s photographed wearing sandals, beach shorts and an Armani bag. Sure, he’s allowed to have a personal life. He’s just not allowed to be cool.
Google hits: “Metallica” 37,500,000; “Metallica Sucks” 248,000 (.7%)
This group is famous enough and popular enough that there’s no need to tout they’re positives. Suffice to say, they’re the first group on the list to earn a great deal of unpopularity due to being too popular. They were one of Billboard’s 200 hottest albums of the year in 16 years between 1983 and 2009 with Top 100 songs in 5 of those years. Typical “suck” ratings come from indie types that “liked them up through War” yet couldn’t stand them after Joshua Tree. The explanation varies from “Just because they’re popular doesn’t mean they don’t suck” to “Because they’re popular, they suck.” That doesn’t mean they don’t.
Google hits: “U2” 52,900,000; “U2 Sucks” 745,000 (1.4%)
Here’s a band that many, including myself, will maintain that just was never good to begin with. They showed promise with their 1973 breakout hit, “Sweet Emotion” (#59), but they never contributed great songs and their talent is pale to middling. Their story could be made into a decent documentary except Spinal Tap already did that.
Google hits: “Aerosmith” 11,600,000; “Aerosmith Sucks” 312,000 (2.7%)
Here is Curt Cobain’s professed favorite band. They made a career out of playing awful sounding quote music unquote. Their triumphant double album, Daydream Nation, which transformed them from playing dive clubs to playing slightly bigger dive clubs (but at least they could afford to stop shoplifting from the grocery store), has an estimated 2.7% of actual singing and/or playing in tune. John Cage would be proud.
Google hits: “Sonic Youth” 4,510,000; “Sonic Youth Sucks” 173,000 (3.8%)
As an American icon, there should be no doubt… Elvis was the King. As a musician, the man helped popularize rock & roll, which is no small accomplishment although he was hardly alone. His early career (from 1958 to 1960 before being drafted into the U.S. Army), with hit covers such as “Hound Dog”, “Heartbreak Hotel” and “All Shook Up” ensured that he would leave his mark. Unfortunately, he just didn’t stop there. To the general population not in nursing homes, Elvis’s legacy today is mostly filled with velvet paintings, ugly cars and horrible movies. As Neil Young wrote, sometimes “it’s better to burn out than to fade away”.
Google hits: “Elvis Presley” 17,600,000; “Elvis Presley Sucks” 321,000 (1.8%)
Here’s a group that suffers greatly by comparison. Their fans continue to compare them with the Beatles and that’s just not fair. What they didn’t steal from Chuck Berry, they stole from the Four Seasons. They started to approach credibility when their front man, Brian Wilson, developed drug induced paranoid schizophrenia and started having original thoughts. But the band kicked him out and spent the next 30 years capitalizing/trashing what was left of the “Beach Boys” name. I have more class than to knock Brian for his mental illness. But I don’t mind knocking Mike Love for being a flat out narcissist.
Google hits: “Beach Boys” 49,400,000; “Beach Boys Suck” 521,000 (1.1%)
Speaking personally, I’m just not sure what this group did to make them as mildly famous as they were. I suspect it was their association with Andy Warhol. Like many rock fans, I once sat and listened to an album of theirs at the behest of a friend, but the experience was entirely forgettable and literally forgotten. Apparently their influence on future artists supersedes their actual popularity. According to the Rock Hall of Fame, “They are one of the most important rock and roll bands of all time, laying the groundwork in the Sixties for many tangents rock music would take in ensuing decades.” But I’m not sure they really existed.
Google hits: “Velvet Underground” 3,090,000; “Velvet Underground Sucks” 95,400 (3.1%)
The one you all were waiting for. The Dude made it part of Hollywood legend, but rock snobs were saying it for decades: “I hate the #@$&!@# Eagles”. They exemplify the popularity problem, because unlike U2 and Metallica, the Eagles never had a developing period. Their first album had three Top 40 hits (“Take It Easy”, “Peaceful Easy Feeling” and “Witchy Woman”). The criticism is that they’re songs are too catchy, the production is too perfect, and the voices are too nice. Some people just hate that stuff.
Google hits: “The Eagles” 18,100,000; “The Eagles Suck” 471,000 (2.6%)
The criticisms are obvious and plentiful. These guys were nothing but a bunch of dirty hippies. Their voices sucked. They played 40 minute songs based around an average (at best) guitarist improvising over a basic scale. They went like 30 years between hit songs, if you can even call them hits. Yet they’ve been a fixture of popular music since the mid 1960s and had a dedicated fandom of hundreds of thousands for the whole time. Take it as you will, but one of their biggest fans, legendary rock promoter Bill Graham famously said “They’re not the best at what they do, they are the only ones who do what they do.”
Google hits: “The Grateful Dead” 8,730,000; “The Grateful Dead Suck” 176,000 (2.0%)






























Am i first?
Yeah… this should get things stirring up today. Interesting take on some of these and can’t wait to hear what others are going to say. Personally, I’m staying out of this one since I don’t really have any particular pros or cons for those listed here.
I love metallica but have somehow been left unsatisfied with the recent albums(especially death magnetic)..by far i prefer the albums that they released during the first years of musical career! It seems that they have lost their musical attitude that impersonated the group so well..i love the songs ‘one’ ‘the unforgiven’ ‘fade to black’ ‘enter sandman’..
#2 is a classic one for these kind of lists! The eagles have somehow become legendary and their music have reached the youngest generations and many of their songs have been engraved in music history! Some people may not like the eagles, its their choice and don’t forget that everyone can make bad choices
i appreciate other artists like aerosmith, u2 and the beach boys(why that name?) but to a lesser degree!
Listverse = 695,000 Listverse sucks = 31,000 = 4.4% (I think, assuming that I’m doing the calculation in the same way that you are).
???, Sucks, ok, sucks, ok-ish, good, good, good, good, SUCKS!!!!
1 is the worst!!!
Spelled with a “K” but that’s ok. Who cares. The list is funny because probably most people will hate it. Not either or here.
i don’t like the level of personal opinion in this list. this list should be titled “bands that I hate and other people seem to love.” personally I don’t think lists that talk about the worst of something are fair due to the offense some people take to them. arguing about the best of a category is interesting; arguing about the worst can just be offensive.
btw Deadheads rule
i should have said this list is called “top 10 bands that I hate and other people seem to love and are stupid for doing so”
and what happens if i like them all?
Green Day is a good example of such a band. I did a google search and Green Day sucks got 2,070,000 hits while Green Day got 167,000,000. Some people don’t like that they “sold out: while there are a lot of people who love them. I personally prefer their older stuff.
From what I have personally seen it seems like Nirvana is another example. Many simply can’t stand Kurt Cobain’s singing voice, I have heard people likening it to that of a “dead cow” (even though a dead cow technically cannot have a singing voice and I have never heard what one actually sounds like) while others see him as the “voice of a generation”, Personally I haven’t been that big of a fan of Nirvana but I do like some of their songs.
Nickelback is yet another example..I think. There are a lot of people who passionately hate Nickelback but I don’t know if there are people who love them as much as the haters hate them. A google search on Nickelback got 10,700,000 while Nickelback sucks got only 112,000 which is weird because I have seen a lot of hate directed towards them.
I agree with mchrismmx the site could get a little lively today.
Personly I will sit this one out, Im from the older generation so Elvis and the Beach Boys are the only ones I recall.
Interesting list, and the percentages are a nice touch.
I love Elvis and Aerosmith forever. That’s it so there.
I agree with swimdevoswim @#8, you should change the title to that!! Sonic Youth is awesome! and Death Magnetic was pretty good. All of the entries where too generic. I was almost positive Insane Clown Posse would be on the list. They’re awesome too!
This *****ing list sucks (100.0%)
I think the beatles should be on here too.. I hate them and I know more people who do too..
The Beatles (32,600,000)
The Beatles suck (1,380,000) [4.2 %]
I love AEROSMITH. Thats all I have to say lol.
10. indifferent
9. hate
8. hate
7. love
6. indifferent
5. love
4. like
3. indifferent
2. hate
1. indifferent
Don’t agree with some of the entries, but I love reading all of them. Good, entertaining list jiminut.
The guys in Aerosmith need to learn how to age gracefully. And if not gracefully, at least with some class. And where is the Rolling Stones? The MOST overrated band EVER!!!!!!!!!
Let’s see Being from the NYC area, I see you have Lou Reed, The Byrds, Dylan, For all New Yorkers The Good Rats.
Blondie,Paul Simon,CSNY, BB King, Steve Forbert.
Is this not just a list designed for jiminut to vent his spurious opinions, rather than an unbiased account of the actual figures and generic opinions?
I love the Velvet Underground’s first album, (and I assume this is what you are talking about as you have chosen a photo with Nico in) being drawn to the experimental eclectic sound of it; the sounds ranging from the soft, gentle ‘Femma Fatale’ to the obscure and haunting ‘Venus in Furs’. A range of style and vocal ability to me is crucial in an albums workings and appeal.
If you didn’t like the Velvet Underground I think the loss of appreciation for Sonic Youth was inevitable…
I’m not sure how you determined the order or anything else on this list other than to defend bands that you like but other people hate and trash bands that other people love but you don’t.
As for the Grateful Dead any band where “you have to be stoned to get it” as I’ve been told many many times is hard to say good things about
I thought for sure KISS would top this list and they aren’t even on it! I don’t exactly love or hate them but most people seem to have a strong opnion about them. I thought bands like KISS would be on the list, clearly they’re not.
This list does, however, mention (arguably) some of the greatest bands of all time. Aerosmith and Metallica, for example, now I am not a big fan of either but you can’t deny that have standed the test of time and done it well. They are loved by SO many people that I just don’t see a place for them on this list.
WTF wer iz Rolling Stones i never understand der popularity der songs r average at best just a hip name n fancy logo not more then that band is ..!
Ugh . Was it you listening to the wrong songs? "Wild Horses" , "Angie" , "Gimmie Shelter" are just a few of the most moving songs I've ever had the pleasure of hearing . "Get Off of My Cloud" and "Jumping Jack Flash" are amazingly jumpy songs for a time filled with energy , and so on . I just can't really understand how you dislike every single one of their songs unless it was just you listening to their later work .
Exile on Main Street , Sticky Fingers , Let it Bleed , and basically everything before that were works of majesty , and not caring for a single of the songs from any of those albums is beyond me . Please just leave .
Cool list Jiminut! Well done!
Sorry! Premature enter! (That’s what she said)
I just wanted to add that overall, this list is more of a chance for jiminut to express his personal opinion on these bands that all seem to have the fans and talent to back up their success.
I don’t see the point in this list, sorry! Nothing new or interesting said, just one guys’ opinion.
I find the people getting offended by this list amusing.
I think most detractors of Nirvana, the Rolling Stones, and the Beatles won’t argue that these particular bands are horrible, but that they are overrated. In fact, most people seem to recognize, whether they like their music or not, that these three bands are important (for good or for ill).
I personally think Nirvana is overrated and I’ve never dug the Rolling Stones. The Beatles, however, are amazing.
The bands listed on here, do seem to have more polarizing effects on listeners.
Nickelback and Green Day would be good additions, I think.
Now now, your entitled to your own opinion; but I can’t stand by and see Jerry Garcia be slandered as such. It seems to be a stereotype used by people who have never actually listened to much of them, that all Grateful Dead songs are 40 minute psychedelic freak out sessions; however this could not be further from the truth (though I’m not saying they are not there)
@Scratch:
Amen, Scratch….Amen.
What ***** wrote this list? You know what, kid? A) learn something about music before you pop off about bands like the Velvet Underground (clearly you’re clueless about historical context) and B) learn how to write a list, period—because this one makes about as much sense as a Glenn Beck tirade. Elvis Presley someone you either love or hate? How’s that again?
You start out with a decent concept, but it almost immediately goes south. Captain Beefheart? Sure. I can see that. As it happens, I loved “Trout Mask Replica,” but then I have discerning taste and an intellectually-charged mind. But I think The Residents would have been a better choice than, say, U2 or the Velvet Underground. I’ll grant that U2 is WAY overexposed, and I’m as sick of them as the next guy—but that doesn’t change the fact that some of their stuff is still extremely listenable. I know lots of people who can’t stand Bono’s sanctimonious attitude anymore, and are sick of having U2 around after 30 years, but I don’t know anybody who automatically turns them off even when “New Years Day” or “I Will Follow” comes on.
And now my Saturday morning is an angry one. Thanks. Jerk.
Not keen on these kinds of lists that are just someone’s opinion, but I’d be more keen if you could please learn the difference between there, their and they’re!
Since I am not a rock fan, I don’t know why I checked out this list. But maybe could make one for Electronic music? I’m too lazy to make my own list.
@forsythia I agree with what you say but the fact is most people who hate Metallica, Aerosmith and we can include U2 here as well are the fans of their earlier music who feel the band “sold out” by so drastically changing their sound. I was never a huge Metallica fan but the first time I heard Until it Sleeps I didn’t know who it was and though REM had gotten a new singer, Aerosmith went from a blues rock band to glam rock band and U2 went from a very simplistic rock sound to very intricate music and these changes *****ed off a lot of people while drawing in a whole new group of fans
@swimdevoswim: I totally agree. By the same calculation as all the other bands:
“the beatles”: 27,500,000; “the beatles suck”: 576,000 (2,0%)
“Led Zeppelin”: 11,900,000; “Led Zeppelin sucks”: 127,000 (1,0%)
The listers two examples of bands that do not belong on this list do so even more than most bands on it by his own calculution…
And now my Saturday morning is a angry one.
Hi Randall I hope you dont have a baseball bat under your car seat when you go out this morning.
Take it easy pal stress is no good for us.
Where are The Smiths? If you’re gonna ***** off Randall in the morning, you may as well do a good and proper job.
Entertaining, but I don’t understand how people can say a band or person sucked when they changed music. How can Elvis ever suck after everything he did for rock ‘n’ roll (same with The Beatles although they’re not on this list)?
Like someone already mentioned, one band I personally don’t think is good and is HIGHLY overrated is KISS. For some reason they’ve been everywhere the past decade yet the only song you ever hear is Rock ‘N’ Roll All Night. I’m not saying you can’t be a fan, but they’ve really gotten too big for who they are – it’s probably the makeup.
@forsythia: @rspalding714: Whenever I hear that some band has “sold out” I cringe. What is the goal of every kid with a garage band? To be heard, to make money, to be famous, to be loved by the masses, and to eventually inspire the youth that follow. Once many bands are successful in achieving this, they are called “sell outs” and many of their fans from their early careers turn away. Sure, I get it that U2, for example, is overplayed on many radio stations and people get tired of them. It just bugs me when every band that happens to make it big, either through luck or talent are dumped into the “too commercial” garbage bin.
jiminut, I love that this list is opinion. Maybe exactly because I agree with so many of your picks, and at the same time disagree with others. If I ever hear Hotel California by The Eagles I’ll have to drive spikes through my ears. The same goes for Janie’s Got a Gun from Aerosmith or anything by The Beachboys talk about over-rated.
Many more lists of this same topic could be made. How about Van Halen? AC/DC? Prince (I mean seriously? Raspberry Beret?) *shudder* Or how about Queen? Loved and hated. Personally I can’t stand them – more like entertainment than meaningful music. I could go on…
Music is intensely personal for me. There are a lot of songs and bands I wont listen to if there are people around whom I dislike. I dont want to ever associate the music I love with cetain people.
That being said, all the bands (was Elvis a band?) on this list have made music I enjoy. Especially Nirvana. Their (Kurt’s)words speak to me in a place no one (almost no one -Hi MPW) is privy to. Maybe I am too private a person. Maybe my wall is too high, too thick, too impenetrable. He was real. And he said it as he saw it. And paid for it with his life. (I think it was C. Same as S killed N.)
@tryclyde: My guess as to why KISS was left out:
KISS is to music; as World Wrestling Entertainment is to real sports.
Hi, I can see the concept of the list – and there are some good choices for ‘required taste’ bands. I too was thinking of KISS when I read the list, and Frank Zappa (who gets a mention), and you could add Pink Floyd, Genesis, even The Venetian Snares.
Was Elvis a ‘band’? – perhaps, especially in the early days when he had a trio behind him – but technically he was a solo artist. Captain Beefheart on the other hand was labeled a solo artist but had the Magic Band behind him; who still tour and do Beefheart numbers to this day – I’ve seen them live (the MB not BH).
Why bring up this distinction? Well, I can think of many rock solo artists who folks also either love or hate: Rod Stewart, Kate Bush, Phil Collins, Bryan Adams, Rod Steiger, David Hasselhoff!
Anyways, my view is that every band or artist has the potential of creating a great song – and many manage it at least once in their careers. For example, I’m not a fan of Oasis, but I do like ‘Roll With It’. Im not a fan of Abba (in the least!) but I do like ‘Waterloo’.
You can never account for taste, nor can you please all the people all the time. A well known entertainer once said “If half of the audience are laughing, it makes up for the other half.”
@Moonbeam: A agree about the fame trap. Also, Queen – good call – I don’t mind ‘em.
Perhaps every list is in some part someones opinion. For example, 10 places you don’t wanna visit (many said they would!), or a ‘greatest’ this, or a ‘top’ that.
How about Phish? Or as I always called them the “Grateful Dead of the 90s”
No, another music list, which means mine isn’t posted….
As for the actual list it’s extremely biased, I for one do see Aerosmith as a tad overrated but absolutely cannot stand the song Sweet Emotion, I prefer Kings and Queens and Dream On, you know, their more darker material.
i don’t really hate or love any of these bands, i sometimes even listen to the velvet underground.. i used to be a huge aerosmith-fan when i was 15 or something
Before anyone who has any common music sense passes judgement on a band, they really should give them an uninterrupted listen.
Being a huge Dead fan, I find it necessary for any hater to spend 7 minutes listening to some of the most “rock n roll” rock n roll ever made:
8/6/71 Hard to Handle:
Percentages were a great touch!
Couldn’t agree more with everyone who threw down against the Beatles and KISS.
What has nine arms and sucks?
Def Leppard.
The list sounds like a troll, and clearly missed many bands who probably have a much larger hatebase that VU or Sonic Youth. Without going into much detail, some examples:
Many post-grunge bands like Nickelback or Creed are reviled by many music magazines, yet could sellout a arena in minutes.
A large section of metal fans hate Dave Mustaine (Megadeth) over his constant feuding with other bands (worthy of even having their own page on wikipedia), but are still one of the largest names in Metal.
Nu-Metal bands (Limp Bizkit, POD, Korn, Slipknot, etc) were all over the place in the late nineties/early noughts, but everytime someone suggests those bands to a music festival, there’s always two very vocal sections: those who want to relive their teens, and those who want to forget the thing even existed.
Of the same era, Marilyn Manson became the face of the post-columbine “satanic alternative music” (as I’ve seen described it once). Despite his popularity these days following the quality of his musical output, he was by far, a true “love or hate” figure, and his androgynous crotchless figure became the image of what was “poisoning america’s youth” on mainstream media.
And all this without diving into the realms of pop-rock Disney starlets or teen starlets (Jonas Brothers, Tokio Hotel and the like). Loved by their target audience, hated by anyone outside but has been exposed to them.
So yeah. the list seemed more a chance to vent out (since there’s no mention whatsoever why those bands are loved) than doing some, you know, actual research.
Being an overly obsessed U2 fan, I hate this list. What radio stations do you people listen to where U2 is overplayed? I’m so sick of listening to Ke$ha (the sound of her voice and/or seeing pictures of her make me feel a little nauseous), Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, and all those crappers- uh, rappers.
And as for this list, I think Nickelback should be here, as with KISS, Green Day, Def Leppard, and the Beatles. Whoever created this list sucks.
Jimmy Buffet definitely deserves to be on this list…
I’ll echo several previous comments to say that I was very surprised to not see Kiss on here. But really, while the premise of this list is interesting, it is near impossible to define. You can name ANY popular act (as many commentors are doing), and there is going to be some that “hate” it. But to dislike a band just because they are popular and you want to be a contrarian (a la the typical Beatles detractors) is rather silly. What one truly enjoys is of course highly personal and no one can “make” another person like the Beatles or Dylan or whomever. But you can’t dispute talent and innovation, as opposed to say Kiss, who absolutely suck musically and are nothing more than marketing *****s. Not say one can’t be turned off by overexposure, but that should have no bearing on a given performer’s base contribution to the genre.
“Over-rated” is another term I dislike (it comes up a lot in sports debates too). How do we define that? What’s this standardized rating scale that determines the point at which some band is correctly “rated”?
Lastly, anyone who “hates” VU is completely discredited and should cease to engage in further discourse.
@bmault: Thanks for the link, there is a place in my heart for fun ‘n bluesy guitar noodling.
@Silva: I have to agree with you.
The list had potential but failed to deliver. Most people don’t hate Metallica, just their later stuff.
What about Nickleback? Creed? …O, i gues you have to have someone like you to get on the list!
@Randall: Although I do agree with your comment, I just have to ask. When are you not angry? To me, it seems like everytime you post a comment you are at least annoyed.
@Julius:
Okay. You got a point. You wanna make something of it?
@Randall: No, it’s your bloodpressure, I was just wondering
I say Phish should be on the list.