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10 More Supporting Actors Deserving Oscar Nods

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We have already published a number of lists which focus on actors or films that were passed over for Academy Awards. This list looks at performances of male and female actors that were at least good enough to have been nominated but weren’t. They aren’t all winning performances but certainly they were great performances.

10

Sean Astin
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)

He’s as effective in the third film as McKellen is in the first. As Samwise Gamgee, Astin makes you care for his and Frodo’s well being throughout the film. When the strength of the film causes the audience to despair right at the end, and several times before, Astin’s strength keeps it holding on just like Frodo.

He’s the only character with the honesty to be able to take the Ring and then give it right back. He hits all the right notes of heroism, dejection, hope, fear, courage, and he does it with such richness, some critics have conjectured a bit of homosexuality between him and Frodo (not true).

9

Gary Oldman
Air Force One (1997)

An actor of diverse roles, and he certainly deserved a nomination for his performance as Dracula. He disappears into every character, and his work as the villain Ivan Korshunov is among his very best.

It isn’t easy being a formidable villain to Harrison Ford’s hero, but Oldman pulls it off. He truly makes you hate him and want to see Ford take him out, but the real merit of his characterization is in the complicated politics motivating him. He isn’t hijacking Air Force One because he hates the President. He’s hijacking it to free a political ally and terrorist.

The scene in which Oldman interrogates, beats up, and attempts to coerce Ford into freeing the rogue Kazakh politician is one of the great acting duels in film, and Oldman steals the show with his quiet rage.


8

Thomas Wilson
Back to the Future (1985)

This 1980s pop icon of film bullydom was unjustly passed over for an Oscar nod at least once. His performances as Biff Tannen in the other two films of the trilogy are perhaps just as good. Wilson is actually a really nice guy, with a wife and children.

He based his characterization on all the bullies he ever knew as a kid, and the work shows through very well. Not only is he big and mean, he’s very stupid, and makes for great slapstick when he gets decked. He’s the character the audience remembers when it leaves the theater.

7

Michael Keaton
Beetlejuice (1988)

In terms of bravura performances, this one is the wildest. Keaton did a good turn a year later as Batman, and decided to go the opposite way from this performance. He pulls out all the stops as a “freelance bioexorcist.” It’s Keaton’s effortless delivery of a lot of very funny lines that land him a spot on the list. In essence, he IS this film.

Every scene he’s in is great because of his flamboyance. Though the film is full of dead people, it isn’t meant to be scary, and Keaton’s humor pushes it into success in grand style.


6

Oliver Reed
Oliver! (1968)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cw_ETnxuBys

His performance as Bill Sikes in this musical version of Oliver Twist is, in this lister’s opinion, one of the top five villainous performances in cinematic history. It was Reed’s idea not to sing any songs, although Sikes has at least one song in the stage version of the musical.

Reed believed that as soon as he started singing, he would cease to be scary. He is, in truth, terrifying in every scene. It’s his eyes. He looks as if he’s ready – indeed jubilant – to kill everyone he encounters. Even Fagin is scared of him. His pet dog, Bullseye, is so scared that it remains in tow until the end, when Sikes bludgeons Nancy to death. Reed stands up with a look of the seediest, most toxic rage on his face of just about any film villain. Now even Bullseye won’t come near him. He growls, “Bullseye! Bullseye, you come here!” with such violence in his facial expression and body language that the audience is sure he’ll kill everyone he meets from now on.

5

Dennis Hopper
Blue Velvet (1987)

By far one of the most over-the-top villains in film. The Academy may have passed Hopper over for this role because he was nominated in the same year for his supporting performance in Hoosiers. His performance as Frank Booth may have been deemed a leading role, but Kyle MacLachlan and Isabella Rossellini are billed at the top. Hopper’s performance is beyond belief.

His character, Frank Booth, is mentally deranged, sadistic, masochistic, and tortures Rossellini physically, psychologically and emotionally, throughout the film. He puts on a gut-wrenching spectacle and all eyes are drawn to him, whether they like it or not. In the script, the gas he inhales was supposed to be helium. Hopper knew his way around drugs and decided to use amyl nitrate, which is used properly as an angina medication. Hopper actually inhaled it throughout production to get the proper characterization. By the time he’s shot dead, the audience has seen enough to cheer.


4

Robert Shaw
Jaws (1975)

This modern-day Captain Ahab is so mesmerizing once he shows up that the viewer no longer pays much attention to Scheider or Dreyfuss, who both put forth fine work in this film. Shaw was thoroughly wasted on beer and whiskey in most of the scenes, but somehow, it made him focus.

Quint destroys his radio to keep anyone else from nabbing the shark. He is ready to wreck his boat and kill his crew to get the shark. He tries everything in the book and sings sea shanties the whole time.

His USS Indianapolis speech is horror distilled. It efficiently kills the cheerful mood of the men stripping their sleeves and showing their scars. The speech alone would net him a spot on such a list, and it explains to the audience why Quint is so madly devoted to catching and killing the shark. It also foreshadows his death. And for anyone watching the film who does not fear the shark as a realistic predator, this speech makes it real, because it’s 100% true. A masterpiece of characterization.

3

Carol Burnett
Annie (1982)

Burnett is one of the greatest comediennes in film, and she outdid herself in this musical. She plays Miss Hannigan, the evil proprietor of a girls’ boarding school, who treats the girls like garbage, forcing them to clean and clean again, “until the floor looks like the top of the Chrysler Building.”

She’s a falling-down drunk, and wears her hair half down her face, her lipstick half up her face, staggering around the building cursing the children. Burnett gives a fine, colorful flair to it all. By the end, she turns good, wishing no harm on a little girl like Annie. Burnett makes it work from beginning to end.

By far her best line is three words long, after she walks into a room, hearing the girls at play, “Was that…laughter?” She looks positively offended by the possibility.


2

Al Pacino
The Devil’s Advocate (1997)

If you’ll pardon the pun, Pacino puts on one hell of a bravura show as the ultimate Evil One. This is the most accurate portrayal of Satan in film to date. The various incarnations over the years have painted him as everything from Jason Voorhees to an inane rascal of a trickster.

Pacino does it right. The Devil’s the head of a lawfirm. This film is probably quite popular among lawyers. He’s been around for thousands of years, and now he feels it’s time to make the Antichrist and take over everything.

Enter “Cool Breeze” Reeves, who actually does himself proud in this one. He’s not bad at all. Pacino, though, steals every scene. He goes down in film history as the Devil of all devils near the end, when Reeves still won’t join the dark side of the force. He still loves his recently deceased wife.

Pacino asks him, “Who are you carrying all those bricks for, anyway? GOD?! Is that it?! God?! Well, I’ll tell ya. Lemme give ya a little inside information about God.” What follows is some of the most awe-inspiring misotheism in cinemas, all the more affecting because, except for the bias involved in what he says, just one side of the story, it’s quite an accurate description of what God has done (if you believe in Him) with mankind, how unfairly mankind has had it, etc. This is Satan as he truly is (if you believe in him), and Pacino does him so proud, the audience is left wondering what the real Satan might think of the performance.

1

Irma P. Hall
The Ladykillers (2004)

When this lister saw her performance, he made the mistake the rest of the Academy made: he forgot that he was looking at an acting performance. That’s the greatest praise an actor can be worth. Hall’s portrayal of Mrs. Marva Munson is worthy of recognition alongside Brando’s of Vito Corleone, Peck’s of Atticus Finch and any other legendary performances one cares to think of.

This lister considers Spencer Tracy the greatest film actor because he consistently did just that: made the audience forget it was watching a performance. The effortlessness involved in pretending to be someone else and speak prescribed lines is the hardest thing for any actor to do.

Hall does it just as well, even upstaging Tom Hanks, who is certainly not bad in this film. It’s hard to pin down her best scene, but the last scene, with the sheriff and deputy, discussing the stolen money is perhaps the most charming.

She is, indeed, genuine, sincere, honest, and wholly disarming of the audience’s suspension of disbelief, from her first scene to her last. This is one very rare time when the lister believes that not only should she have been nominated for Best Supporting Actress, she should have won.



  • msmabjab

    Wow….great list to start off the morning!

  • deezer26

    Great list!! I've seen all these movies and couldn't agree more. Thanks alot.

  • the_consigliere

    Nice list =)

  • msmabjab

    Wow…great list to start out the day!

  • Wow! I want to rush off to the video shop and buy them all. FlameHorse for President or King, depending on the country.

  • Sean Astin's performance in The Return of the King was the only thing that made the Gollum/Frodo/Sam scenes bearable to watch, but I don't know if it was oscar worthy…
    I loved Oliver Reed's performance in Oliver although the film probably shouldn't have won the best picture award (2001: A Space Odyssey wasn't even nominated :-I !)
    IMO had somebody else than Keanu Reeves portrayed Kevin Lomax in the Devil's Advocate it would have been an instant classic, but Reeves can't act for sh*t.

    • bassbait

      Good to hear someone agree that 2001 is a great movie! I'm sick of people saying it's overrated, because the fact is, it's actually UNDERRATED. The film is being panned because "you have to be high to get it". No you don't… you have to be smart to get it. Advice for anybody who doesn't like 2001: The movie has symbolic and metaphorical meanings that are meant to sub-consciously affect you. It's a true masterpiece because it doesn't SAY anything, but makes millions of words with the usage of pictures. For example, the monolith shot where the sun is peaking up from it and you can see the moon… that shot is symbolism. The monolith represents society, the moon represents the leaders of society and the fact that they believe they know all but the can never truly find enlightenment, and the sun represents the true seers of the world. The people below, the common people, the servants are the ones who truly find enlightenment. It's meant to look similar to the illuminati sign of the pyramid on the back of the 1 dollar bill, and if you pay close attention, every shot in Kubrick's films looks like a pyramid aiming up towards the top. Notice also that there are 2 of those shots, and both of them look almost exactly the same. There are deeper meanings behind the movie, and 2001 should have swept the oscars like One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest did.

      • bullshit you didnt watch it as high as a goddamed stingray ……….

  • I disagree with everything on this list but I will give no reasons why.

    • why, are you to cool for constructive criticism?

  • Oldman was genious in The book of Eli as well.

    • And in True Romance, and in Leon, and in Fifth Element to name a few…

  • c man

    i think al picino or whatever is the MOST OVERATED actor to ever grace the silver screen, just a piss poor one dimensional actor …… epic fail

    • CQSteve

      What, you never saw Godfathers I & II? What about Dog Day afternoon?

    • Pacino was also very good in my opinion in Panic in Needle Park

  • Lifeschool

    Hey there – just thought I’d drop in to this one before work. Well, let’s see now. There are quite a few good actor(esses) in the list, but are these roles Oscar worthy? Hmm. Perhaps a few deserve higher recognition – but I dunno if they get the ‘Star Prize’? You may have a case with Hopper, and especially Shaw (a great old school performance there), Flame – but, awww, I dunno.

    I guess some folks (you know who you are) will strike the ‘subjective’ silver hammer on this one.

    Still, credit where it’s due – a readable list – some great movies – and it made it onto the LV. Not all bad eh?

    • oliveralbq

      theyre all at least good enough to form a good enough to form a good argument…..
      i mean — i really only agree with 5 of em, and i can think of 5 others (at least),
      but list is well written and gets an 'a' in my book

      you know — like paul giamatti in sideways (argument on whether he's lead or supporting aside)

      gives us something to discuss —- (like you)– *after* work .. ug.

      • Lifeschool

        Thanks for the input mate. I find that often, as soon as somebody says 'oh, there's gonna be trouble' – the comments go as nice as pie. After a rash of folks moaning about subjectivity lately I thought I'd pre-empt it – and then nobody mentions 'subjective' at all. Weird isn't it. I beleive they call it reverse psychology – you tell someone they CAN do something and they wont – tell em they CANT do something and they always do.

        Off topic: Hows is the mobile LV going for you?- I've just loaded up the new system again to reply to your comment and everything works hunky-dory. Guess JF gave it a tweek after all. Still having those maximum comment issues??

        • oliveralbq

          mobile lv is actually going fine — for a little while there, i thought i was fucked, because *everyone* who had had some problems had been fixed, and my fone was still acting like i was trying to download the extended version of robert altman's "short cuts". (just in case that reference is lost on you, i believe it was about 5 hours) — how's your luck been with it?

          then i was having trouble doing *something* — it was arbitrary — some days i couldnt post with it — some days it went straight to the end of the comments —
          well,, after i said… 'if this does stupid shit one more time, im gonna throw my fone out the car window' — never hade another problem. which goes to show you — if you threaten your phone's life, it will stop acting like an asshole
          as for the max comments — yeah, never figured that out — jamie said somehting having to do with java, but its inconsistant even for that to be the only problem. i did however find a loophole. type in a comment — if the "too long" window pops up, i cut the last 15 lines or so, post that beginning, edit the comment, paste the last lines, and submit —–it always takes it. i guess its just a max lines/characters for one window or whatever —- truth is — it makes no sense to me whatsoever, but i can get around it, so i could give a fuck less ;)

          .and the reverse psychology? yeah — that worked great — its almost like flamers and trolls are allergic to sound reasoning. it would be cool, however, if at the end of each day's list jafe posted a blurb that said —
          — "everyone thinks 'first' comments are the bomb
          —if you see any sprlling errors inform us immediately
          —make sure you say something is -centric
          —always comment on the subjectivity of the list
          —and if you do nothing else, make absolutely you re-number the order of the list"

          if those 5 things never happened again due to reverse psychology, i would lobby for frater to be the next king of new zeland

          • Lifeschool

            Excellent that you figured your way around the posting issues. That's the terrific thing about the human mind, it can negotiate an obstacle course! We are all inventors really (or at least we are driven to find our own little short cuts) :) In other words, we are all genius's in our own way – you don't have to have a brain the size of a water mellon to be a genius.

            Yeah, reverse psychology is an amazing thing – I used to use it all the time on my ex-wife – though that was many years ago now. The power of the word is amazing really – the words 'always', 'never', 'must', 'must not', 'cant', 'wont', even the word 'try'. 'Try' means to undertake – but 'try' doesn't mean 'do' or 'achieve' – often asking someone to 'try' to be this or that leads to a half-hearted experience. That's why I like to talk in possibilities, because everything is possible. So while 'try to be home by 11' can lead to an ignored guideline (a set up for a potential failure), 'Is it possible to be home by 11' can lead to a personal challenge.

            I don't know why I wrote all that…? As a philosopher I can only imagine it could be of use to you in some way.

  • Akashtorturedmind

    Nice list!

  • JUNQUEMAN

    Thomas Wilson is a truly nice and gentle man–Proves his acting ability!

  • CQSteve

    I was a kid when I saw Oliver Reed in the role of Bill Sikes and frankly, he scared the shit out of me. 42 years later I still get shivers when he belts into Nancy. Even when he was ‘nice’ he was bad. “Do you love me Bill?” Nancy asked. His reply “I live with ya don’t I? Now shut up”. Thanks for another great list Flamehorse.

  • Matt C

    When are you people gonna learn that Al Pacino can't act?
    Screaming, raging and ranting aren't scary.
    The quiet, calm, level voice is the man to fear.
    What's scarier:
    "Come an meet my lil fren"
    or
    "My mule doesn't like people laughing…"

    The exception is Gary Oldman in Leon
    "EVERYONE!"

    Oh, and where's Christopher Walken on this list?
    Watch his scene with Dennis Hopper in True Romance.
    THAT'S acting.

    • Find Al Pacino parodies on "Peter Serafinowicz show" – You'll love em' :)

    • "I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. Gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it…" mother fucking CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • "Oh, what's that – a horse's head
        what's it doing on the bottom of the bed?"
        LOL

    • eric!

      Um, because Christopher Walken WAS nominated and DID win for his superb supporting acting in The Deer Hunter.

  • Nevertheless it's strange that people tend to think that their opinions are super-objective.

  • I completely agree with all the overlooks for an oscar here. In particular, Sean Astin was completely robbed here. Tim Robbins wins for that piece of garbage Mystic River and Sean Astin doesn't even get nominated? WTF Academy!!!!!!! Astin wins essentially every other supporting actor award possible and the academy blows him off. Should be the #1 entry imo, but at least he made the list. Good list FlameHorse.

  • Definately agree with Sam Austin. I think he is brilliant in LOTR and you're right, he hits the notes just right. His performance has had me in tears on more than one occasion.

    • I completely agree, he had me in tears on more than one occasion. He carries that Storyline of the film (the Frodo/Gollum/Sam line.)

  • Awesome… I love Annie!

  • Mike

    As I understand it, Robert Shaw wrote the Indianapolis speech in Jaws. For me that movie does not start until Quint shows up.

    • eric!

      Actually, I think he made it all up on the spot. Which is even more impressive. Jaws is one of my all time favorite movies, and the only thing to ever give me nightmares (granted I was about 7 when I talked my mom into taking me to see it), and all three of the principals deserved to be nominated.

  • I can see all of these except Biff. I love Back to the Future as much as the next person, but it's not…oscar worthy. It's fun, it rocks when you find a marathon of all three and you don't have anything to do that day, but I don't see it winning any major acting awards. It may have won some MTV awards if they had them then; it's more that kind of movie. I think Crispin Glover gave a better performance than Biff anyway.

    Now Robert Shaw I can really get behind. He was amazing in Jaws.

  • MommaDuck

    Carol Burnett is one of my all time favorite actresses. She is the funniest person alive. The Carol Burnett show has kept me laughing for a long long time. She deserves all kinds of awards! Great list!

    • I agree! She made the film – without her Annie would have been a pile of poop.

      • my little sister, right at a point of peculiarity on her young life, got a hold of annie, sound of music and the newsies. she watched them all the time ……

        newsies was one thing — essentially my first exposure to christian bale, robert duvall, ann-mardret, bill pullman—
        sound of music still makes me cringe (you have to understand, i think she watched these every other day for a couple years)

        but annie — as annoying as some parts of it was, was always worth sitting down in front of to catch some of burnett's scenes — this is a great call, flame, that i dont think i would have thought of…..

  • Dennis Hopper is spot on, that is one chilling performance. Gary Oldman and Michael Keaton are both underrated actors, in my opinion. Michael Keaton's performance in "Much Ado About Nothing" was hilarious.

    Al Pacino sometimes goes over the top, but it worked perfectly for him for the Devil's Advocate. That speech was well-delivered.

  • BendOver

    Top 10 porn stars with the biggest boobs?

  • leithold

    Gary Oldman is one of my favorite actors. I mean, he takes on diverse roles and still plays each one perfectly. Mason Verger in Hannibal, to Sirius Black in Harry Potter, From Egor Korshunov in Air Force One to Commissioner Gordon in Batman. How multidimensional could you get!

    Props to Sean Astin in LOTR and his other roles too.

  • I agree with all of these choices! Carol Burnett and Robert Shaw were perfect in the parts they played. …and I just loved the Dodger in Oliver.
    Awesome list. :)

  • Wade

    I nominate John Ritter for his portrayal of Vaughn on "Slingblade".

    • Mabel

      Oh that was amazing. He wasn't even recognizable. I didn't realize it was him until he had talked for a while and I thought, "Wow, that voice sounds familiar. Is that John Ritter?" I had to wait until the credits to see if I was right!

      He was such a great actor. Once he played an abusive husband in a TV movie. At the end of the film, the wife, who has escaped him, meets him in a park after he has had a ton of counseling and he asks her if she'll consider taking him back. She says no. His rage flares, but due to the counseling, he keeps it in check. The rage was in his eyes and his posture, and it was one of the scariest things I ever saw in a scene in ANY film. He actually scared me. I wish I could remember the name of the movie.

      He was so gifted. I miss him so much.

  • The unsung heros…

  • Jesper

    "I don't want no hippidy hop music in ma house!" – Utterly agree with number 1! It may not be the most difficult role to portray, but she truly does it to absolute perfection. Either she is a high spirited grandmother normally or she is damn good at portraying one!

  • Nice list seen most of them and I agree with the choises

    Thanks Flame.

  • Couldn't agree more about number 10!

  • Check out This Gary Oldman:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w94dZtKXaaE

  • I don't really think you can call Michael Keaton a supporting actor for his role in Beetlejuice, considering the entire movie pivoted around his character, as evidenced by his character's name being the *title* of the movie.

  • Laurabelle

    I'll agree that Michael Keaton did a good job as Beetlejuice… but I REALLY hated that movie. Terrified me as a kid.

  • FlameHorse

    Thanks, everyone.

  • Josemaloco

    Nice list, but I think you talk more about the greatness of the character than the acting quality.

  • Springs

    The posts that say that Al Pacino is overrated just proves that most acting performances are judged good or bad by pure opinion. I think Gary Oldman is the greatest actor in the world at the moment, but try telling any 'expert' that. For example, try acting like the joker in The Dark Knight, easy to do because of the satnd-out features and movements he does, now try acting like Jim Gordon, unless you are very aware and talented, you will simply act like yourself. Acting like a completely normal person, with a completely different personality than your own, is much harder than acting like a crazed psychopath or mentally disabled person, and the latter always gets the accolades.

    Of Course this comes with my opinion that acting is actually very easy, although as a job it is very difficult, as everyone acts all the time. But I'm not going to get into that argument again.

    • hunter

      That is a superb evaluation. I also think Oldman is a fantastic actor, terribly underrated. I became a fan of his when I saw "State of Grace", that was just incredible acting which went unnoticed by most. "Sid and Nancy" is also another favorite of mine.

  • The Sanity Inspector

    Too bad comedies don't win Oscars, else Richard Libertini in All Of Me would be deserving of mention.

    • oliveralbq

      i was actually going to mention comidies — which win sometimes, but not nearly as much as they probably should — see gielgud (arthur), kevin kline (fish called wanda), palance (city slickers), arkin (little miss sunshine), gooding jr (j.maguire), lange (tootsie), tomei (my cousin vinny) — still dont get that one, sorvino (mighty aphrodity), etc

      if it was the case that the academy didnt recognize comedy actors, it would be somewhat understandable, but they clearly do, on occasion. it just seems thats its done kind of haphazardly — i mean, when john lithgow cant win for world according to garp, but marissa tomei does win for *anything*, something is screwed up.

      on this list…what are there — 4 comedy mentions (i remember 3 for surre)

      seems like there should be several more

      ?? go academy! :/ :/ :/

  • lili

    i agree with the lord of the rings one!!! i love sam, way more than frodo! sam was the real hero!

  • Jille

    Did George C. Scott get nominated for Dr. Strangelove? I know Kubrick would ask him after a dozen takes “Now give me one ‘over the top'”, and 10 times out of 10 that was the take he used, which really pissed George off, but to me, George stole the movie. The petulance, the bragging, the bravado, he was pure brilliance. Even though Kubrick had to trick it out of him.

    • oliveralbq

      no——- not nominated
      my best guess would be that the academy just said 'fuck this dude' after
      he refused to accept the nomination for supporting role in 'the hustler', and then 9 years later, won for best actor for 'patton' and refused to accept the award (then returned it when his p.r.guy, or whoever, accepted it on his behalf).
      the faact that he was nominated again, after that, is stunning (lead role in the hospital)

  • alan rickman immediately came to mind — may have been on another list, but i dont care — between he villians in robin hood and die hard, this dude should have at least one oscar, and he's never even been nominated, although he does have that well deserved emmy for playing rasputin.

    gary oldman — people have already said this, but its so stupid that he's never been nominated that it ticks me off —-

    a couple of the best movie villians of the generation

  • Nice list ! Agree with Thomas Wilson aka Biff.

    "Manure…….I hate manure!"

    Me too bro, me too!

  • Matthew

    I think the greatest underrated supporting performance I've ever seen is David Morse in The Crossing Guard. As parolee John Booth he exudes an aura of utter fatalism. Having killed a child while driving drunk, he has been released from prison to "get on" with is life…but who can continue with the guilt of killing a child? Meanwhile, he is being stalked by the child's emotionally shattered father (a never-better Jack Nicholson). The ending is powerful, unexpected and cathartic…and it rides at least as much on seeing the many levels of this character's personal Hell as it does in emphasizing with "dad." It's a shame Morse hasn't had the chance to act on this level again (although he's quite good in Shawshank Redemption).

  • You can't say that Pacino deserves an Oscar for Devil's Advocate and Scarface is overrated because he just yells a lot.

    Personally my opinion is that Devil's Advocate is a pretty good movie and Scarface is probably top 20 ever made due to it's uniqueness (Is that a word? or is it uniquity?)

  • Sorry, but I don't agree with any of these.

    I could be converted with Robert Shaw in Jaws though…

  • Jerry

    Christopher Walken – At Close Range!

  • I've said it before and I'll say it again: these lists would be better if the people writing them knew anything at all about film.

    • FlameHorse

      As would your comments.

  • Saber 25

    Actually, Carol Burnett is an ACTRESS, i dont bother with my orginial account though

  • Keith

    I'm all for naming Oscar snubs, but a few key points. First, several of those on this list would be nominated for Best Actor – not Best Supporting. And, more importantly, these awards typically go to films that are artful and thought-provoking… not just fun, silly films like Beatlejuice and Back to the Future. And not just any Back to the Future, but undeniably the weakest of the three. Air Force One was a forgettable summer blockbuster, and Gary Oldman's character was so run-of-the-mill you could seriously have inserted any "sinister-looking" actor in his place. And then you have films that were just lame and never lived up to expectations – like The Ladykillers and The Devil's Advocate. That's not to say you don't have some good ones… Carol Burnett, Dennis Hopper and particularly Robert Shaw. As for Sean Astin, I have one word for you: RUDY.

    I like your lists, but you should leave the film lists to the pros.

  • Jamied

    Why does every list you make have at least one mildly homophobic remark? Does it matter if someone viewed homosexual subtext between Frodo and Sam and how do you know it's not true or wasn't intended to stand as a form of subtext.

    Okay, let me clarify, cause that last sentence made me sound like a crazy fanficcer who writes tons of gay love stories between them. I honestly don't care if there was homosexual connotations or not within the film, I mostly am annoyed that almost every single list you make has at least one remark that could be considered derogatory towards homosexuality. It's especially annoying when the list in question should have nothing to do with it. If you aren't comfortable with homosexuality, that's fine, but leave it out of lists like this. I came to read about supporting actors, not to hear you once again make it appear as if homosexuality should be hidden, guarded and something that isn't genuine.

    As for the list itself. Meh. There's way more actors that deserve praise than these people. Minus Sean Astin because damn he really did deserve a nomination.

    • FlameHorse

      Homophobia: fear of humans. I don't have it. I also don't have a fear of homosexuality. I do loathe it, though. And that's the Bible talking. Take it up with God, if you like, but I'm the only person who cares less. I'm conservative. You're liberal. We will not see eye to eye on any moral or political issue.

      The comment you mention in entry #10 is intended for people who have read the book and know better.

      • Jamied

        On the word homophobia: Yes. Because all words meanings are ALWAYS directly derived from their latin based suffixes. This amazing thing happens with language over time where it evolves and words slowly take on different meanings due to their societal use. For better or worse, homophobia essentially means disagreeing with/disliking homosexuality. That is what the word has evolved into meaning. Arguing over semantics is just a stupid moot point.

        My argument isn't even about your political/moral/religious/whatever stance. Hell, make a list called Top 10 Anti-Homosexual verses in the Bible. I honestly wouldn't care and wouldn't bother responding because I know it wouldn't lead anywhere. My problem is that you create lists that have pretty much nothing to do with the subject matter, yet you manage to bring it up half the time. I just find it incredibly annoying. It's your view, go for it. But if you're talking about supporting actors. Let's stick to supporting actors.

        Also: I have a read the book. And what the book is compared to the movie is completely irrelevant. It's an adaptation. You're never going to get literal translation of book into movie, so you really can't critically view content in the book and then state that the same rule applies to the movie. If someone sees homosexual subtext in the film yet none in the book, the homosexual subtext in the film still stands (And for the record, I don't). You can say that it's not necessarily a faithful adaptation, but to reiterate, it's an adaptation and they are essentially completely different subject matter.

        End rant.

      • guest

        Homophobia: fear of humans. I don't have it. I also don't have a fear of homosexuality. I do loathe it, though. And that's the Bible talking

        Sorry, I'm not buying it. The Bible also condemns eating shellfish and shaving (but I'm sure you do it anyway) It also forbids wearing clothing of mixed fibers and contact with menstruating women (but I'm sure you don't worry about that). Not to mention that whole thing about stoning women if they are unfaithful and that forbidding of divorce business. Face it…. you don't loathe homosexuality because the Bible condemns it, but because (your) society condemns it. And even if the Bible did speak out about gays, so what??? If God has a problem with us He'll handle it. There is NOTHING in the Bible that commands you to oppress, hate, condemn, intimidate, or legislate away the rights of homosexuals. If Christ were to return to Earth today and tell everyone to lay off and leave gays alone, it wouldn't make one iota of difference. You would simply find another reason to hate us because this is what you have been taught to do. As a lesbian and a Christian I get so damn sick of having the same tired crap thrown at me from the Bible beaters. Don't like it??? FINE… GET OVER IT!!!!!!

  • R Brown

    R Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket. Stole the entire movie. They could have made the whole movie about boot camp and it would have been better

  • So FlameHorse, you think my comments would be better if I knew anything at all about film? Well see that's where you're wrong! I know an awful lot about film. One of my current jobs is writing articles on film and art for a certain internationally-stocked magazine. If I wished, I could write my own version of this list… but all that would do would prove that I have a more refined taste in films than you do.

    "This is the most accurate portrayal of Satan in film to date."

    Now, that sentence is just batshit-crazy. Even if you disagree with the fact that Satan is a fiction, declaring any portrayal as "the most accurate" is like pulling back the foreskin of respectability that writing for this site gives you to reveal the smegma of lunacy underneath. I mean, consider this – Pacino playing Roy Cohn accurately comes across as more evil and more devious than in the Devil's Advocate. Doesn't that negate the premise of the devil somewhat?
    Not to mention that Keanu fuckin' Reeves plays the protagonist in that film. 'Nuff said.

    • Jamied

      That was one of the most disgusting penis metaphors I have ever read. Nice.

  • mac

    Can think of a few Donald Sutherland and Kevin Bacon roles (no pun intended) worth mentioning. Also Val Kilmer in Wyatt Erp and any of the blokes in once upon a time in the west.

    Good to see Shaw in there, such an underatted actor

  • If you read any of my other comments, you would know how I feel about Robert Shaw as "Quint" in "Jaws." Without him, the movie just wouldn't be as BIG a film as it was, and has become over the years. The role of "Quint" was originally offered to actors Lee Marvin and Sterling Hayden, both of whom passed on it. Had either played it, the movie would have been tragically different.

  • "…and he does it with such richness, some critics have conjectured a bit of homosexuality between him and Frodo (not true)."

    Damn it FlameHorse, you suck.

  • Jon

    I think Irma P. Hall was good in The Ladykillers. Except I absolutely think she should have been nominated for her performance in A Family Thing. She completely stole that movie and couldn't have been more wonderful :)

  • Nadia

    Gary Oldman is an acting god, it’s a shame that he hasn’t won everything for his many roles. He makes watching a movie into this completely different experience. You believe him, his character is so profound you lose sense of what is real and what is not. My favorite actor of all time.

  • Bobo

    Good list. May I add a couple more…

    Keith David as “King”, the machine gunner in “Platoon”. David is excellent in this film – and sorely overlooked. “Platoon” has several nice supporting roles, John C. McGinley as “Red” is also excellent in this.

    The most egregious error was the omission of Don Cheadle’s role as the dripping-with-evil “Mouse” in “Devil in a Blue Dress”. He is just so cruel, so vicious that he takes over the film. Not that Denzel is any slacker, however…

  • Worthy

    So, I’m a year+ late, but I’ll offer:

    Hugo Weaving as Agent Smith in “The Matrix.” Without a great bad guy, the whole movie somewhat fails. And the then-relatively-unknown Weaving delivered in spades.